Grey Swan Event Flock – Why Nothing Can Stop What's Coming

There is a guy on Hillary’s side, who saw Trump coming – like a sky filled with bombers – but nobody listened. He published his theory of the “danger” of a Trump victory on May 26, 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/26/opinion/campaign-stops/the-fears-trump-needs.html

While the author, Ross Douthat, didn’t exactly realize what Trump was up to, nor the fact that Trump was going to win, nor even WHY Trump was going to win – he was remarkably close, compared to most of “left-world”. I don’t think Douthat realized that (1) he (Douthat) was not actually looking at the right gray swans, and (2) TRUMP was the one generating the gray swans, through intellect, cunning, love, and sheer hard work.

Douthat believed that, rather than by one, big, unforeseen cataclysmic event – i.e., a “black swan” – a string of uncertainty-generating random-ish events could “accidentally” put Trump in the White House.

The reality is that Trump – grabbing and working HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of gray swan OPPORTUNITIES – coalesced them all into a comfortably large margin of tiny wins, including unforeseen victories in multiple swing states, to become the 45th President of the United States of America.

This “gray swan” view of the world – the idea that the world can be changed by a stream of perhaps uncommon but not rare events – is key to two things – both of which have high impact in my life:

  • The Plan, as in “Trust the plan.”, as in Q.
  • the slow, steady work of the “event people”, as I call them – but you might know them as “the Deep State”, or perhaps the people who killed Jeffrey Epstein, JFK, RFK, MLKJ, Ron Brown, and many others.

Trump’s path to 2016 victory could actually be viewed as part of “The Plan”, and I would certainly view it that way. But that is just the beginning, in my current opinion.

“The Plan” is actually much bigger than Trump.

MUCH, MUCH BIGGER.

So how do I know this?

Because I believed Q when he said “You have more than you know.”

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[C]oats Before [D]eclas
Q!!mG7VJxZNCI1 Aug 2019 – 1:22:36 PM
[C] before [D].
[C]oats before [D]eclas.
The month of AUGUST is traditionally very HOT.
You have more than you know.
Q

Q’s last post before 8chan was shut down by the enemy

So – where do I begin? How about Q Day – August 17, 2019?


Harry Lime
August 17, 2019 at 05:17

The Bob Lazar interviews are fascinating. He claims to have worked at Area 51 on alien spacecrafts and he is very convincing. The technology he describes is kind of mind-blowing.
This body language dude is a little goofy but he does a decent job of analyzing the interviews. It takes a few minutes to get going…the actual interviews start around 2 minutes and fifty seconds into the video…

[see video below]

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Now, I’m going to repeat that video here, but I will just preface things by saying that learning about Bob Lazar was a kind of “gray swan event” for me. It’s a predictable but uncommon critical event. It was evidence meeting a mind that was uniquely ready for it.

It was “UFO stuff” hitting me as edge science with which I was somewhat familiar.

I have traditionally avoided “UFO” stuff. Yes, at various, sporadic times, I’ve read bits and pieces with a kind of curious, almost morbid interest, but INVARIABLY I get to the point of being “turned off” by the cult-like, phenomenal nature of it all. Too many crazies. Too many new-agers. Too many – as Bob Lazar puts it – BAT SHIT CRAZY people. They seem like very nice people, but they also seem very crazy – much more than I could possibly be myself. It makes me start to think that NONE OF IT IS REAL. And yet the idea that it’s NOT REAL simply flies in the face of the most basic scientific and even (strange yet important) religious logic.

What this is, is actually rather profound. It is direct evidence of the psychologically unsettling nature of the ET problem – a demonstration of its power. It may even be a demonstration of how little we understand.

Many people who follow the field do seem like curious, interested, investigatory people. Some also seem like honest witnesses who have had legitimate odd experiences, which are temptingly explained by equally odd theories.

But some people – who blithely talk about hundreds of abductions – well – I simply have my doubts.

ALTHOUGH – when I approach the problem from a technological standpoint – I could see how CREATING such people would not only be possible, but also very useful. It would be the ultimate living disinformation – and, ironically, it protects its own creation – the mark of truly MASTERFUL disinformation. You have to BELIEVE the person about some initial encounter to explain why the rest of what they are saying is NOT TO BE BELIEVED.

Kinda evil, when you think about it.

I don’t doubt ALL of the “abduction” stories. The Barney and Betty Hill story, I believe strongly. I will come back to that, at some point, if only because I HAVE TO COME BACK TO IT.

I’m not even sure I really WANT to believe. Aliens are kinda scary. Indeed, I have actually been a DEBUNKER at times. I’m particularly good at debunking moving and reflected lights. The first time I solved a “reflected light UFO video”, I was ECSTATIC. I felt “better than Snopes”, because I debunked with absolutely no agenda – neither “confirmation bias” nor “debunking bias” (and trust me – nobody ever talks about “debunking bias”, or “anti-confirmation bias”, but it is VERY REAL). Seriously, I would have LOVED for that light to have been a real UFO – but I proved the other side because THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.

The trouble with Bob Lazar, however, is that not only was he very believable – what he said made sense to me in ways that go way beyond why almost anybody else on the planet would believe him. I simply have hidden knowledge matching up to his story.

Bob Lazar began to solve nearly all the mysteries of my life in ONE VIDEO. This one. As I will explain in a moment.

If you want to go back and see all the comments that fell out of this video, go to the following link:

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/17/dear-kmag-20190817-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-232945

My first comment, however, will give you a flavor of the rest:

wolfmoon1776
August 17, 2019 at 06:03

OMG – I just stopped playing this at 16:24, where they’re talking about element 115.

This connects to all the crap that happened around the time I underwent MK.

He says something about the island of stability stuff. THAT was the stuff that got me into trouble in the early 1980’s. I noticed MISSING THEORIES. Based on my understanding of history of science and science itself, I told my professor that there seemed to be missing theories in nuclear physics. It was a logical argument. Based on some existing theories, and the details of how they had originated, it was almost impossible that certain other similar theories didn’t exist – and yet there were no known theories of a certain type.

At that time I wasn’t particularly suspicious – I thought it might just be some kind of interesting historical “phenomenon” – like a random void in science itself (which is a very cool concept in information theory – how does one CREATE or MAINTAIN a void in information?) But I didn’t know WHY it would be missing. I didn’t think that there was any reason to hide theories in that area. These are general science theories. There was not even a popular IDEA that some general theories were “off-limits”. People in science ASSUMED that certain TECHNOLOGY might be classified, but the idea that the most BASIC SCIENCE might be classified – THAT was unheard of back then.

Well, based on what this guy is saying, he is talking about stuff which would be elegantly explained by the theories I thought were missing. I know exactly what he is talking about, and he would have known exactly what I’m talking about.

Which is another tell. This guy acts just like a lot of scientists I’ve known. Just like normal. Just like he was in the lab next door explaining his stuff.

HOLY SHIT.

But his case also explains why they were interested in using MK on scientists, and presumably experimenting on it at the time. If you can keep their secret stuff compartmentalized, it can be protected. This guy (and maybe others) had gone off the ranch, and the military had a security problem. So they HANDED OFF THE PROBLEM to the CIA to deal with MK experiments. Which (from my point of view) are to some extent successful and to some extent not.

And everybody is still interested in these problems.

But OMG – I am so happy that:

– the class of theories I thought should have existed actually exist
– the theories work
– they would explain the island of stability
– there IS an island of stability
– elements in that island of stability create cool tech

HOLY SHIT! This stuff is REAL!

OK. Now I know why Cankles is in trouble!

She gave this shit to China! Without permission!

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Now – I’ve already modified my thinking on some of this, and things now make EVEN MORE SENSE. And that is why I am now talking to you all.

After I saw this Bob Lazar YouTube video, I decided to drop by a bookstore and see if I could find any of the Bob Lazar DVDs, as well as any other information on “alleged” alien propulsion technology, or “alleged” (or “fake science” “real”) information on higher post-actinides like element 115, now known as Moscovium. Information – disinformation – I can use it all.

I was VERY specifically looking for what I might call “REAL ALIEN STUFF”. I wanted things that were being dismissed along with the entire category, but were very likely real. Other stuff like Bob Lazar. Things that might seem bogus to most people, but would have the STENCH of awful reality to me.

And, OH, brothers and sisters, DID I FIND IT.

What I did NOT expect, was how utterly seamlessly this stuff integrated with all of the following:

  • my parents’ lives
  • my life, including childhood, education, and employment
  • history of science, including stuff that is rather obscure, but of which I have personal knowledge
  • the “real” history of the United States that I have pieced together after dumping fake news, fake entertainment, fake science, and fake history
  • the Q revelations
  • my personal readings and extensions of the Q revelations
  • the alleged “alien-free” Q history revealed through the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsaZF2E2uI4

Now – I want to be VERY careful here. I could mention or better still EXPLAIN many specifics from this book, and HOW they integrate with the things I described above. And, indeed, I WILL do that at some point. It will be very convincing. But CONVINCING YOU ALL is not what I want to do. I would prefer for you all to simply MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS.

I am stealing a page from Q, and asking you all to simply READ THIS BOOK and prepare to have your minds blown, by what amounts to “future proves past” on this 1997 book, which was itself relying on “future proves past” about 1947, 1962, and the surrounding years.

I believe that this book may have been part of PLANNED DISCLOSURE. Even the TIMING (50 years after Roswell) seems to have been part of the deal.


Now – it is important for me to address how this stuff affects – or more importantly does NOT affect our little site here.

We have a wide range of MAGA opinion here, across the entire spectrum of both RELIGION and SCIENCE. I am not going to try to “convince” anybody of things they either don’t believe, can’t believe, or don’t want to believe. However, as a free speech site, I will be discussing a lot of things which – AT ALL TIMES – some people absolutely WON’T BELIEVE.

That’s OK. It works that way for everybody. You can say what you think, and you WILL let others say what they think – without denigration or artful inhibitions – other than the first time, which will be the last time. Disagreement is fine – we cannot increase our understanding without it. Open disagreement is better, because if it’s not shared, what use is it? But we will have to let each other say disagreeable things, as I will explain momentarily.

I personally think we’ve done really well on this front – the art of enlightened discussion of hot topics – but this is going to move into new territory.

I am going to state the following in a “future proves past” way:

What is coming – which cannot be stopped – will shake up “what we know” and “how we know it” in profound ways.

However – WE – who are able to discuss BOTH science and religion FREELY – are uniquely prepared for this “rough ride”.

Those who can understand the future from the vantage points of both science and religion will have a much easier time moving into that future. Those who refuse to use one tool or the other will have far greater difficulties dealing with the future.

When I say this, I am including people who oppose either religion or science, but actually know something about what they oppose.

You will not have to give up your beliefs. You will have to re-understand them. You will have to SEE YOUR OWN BELIEFS DIFFERENTLY.

The curves of a changing reality will simply be too steep to allow people to remain exactly where they were before, absent running into the mountains and living in a shack, where CHANGE cannot find them.

In fact, it is imperative that you not give up your beliefs. The FUNDAMENTALS of those beliefs are important. Their being shaken up is an opportunity for opponents of those beliefs to make you “switch worldviews”. DON’T FALL FOR IT. That is my advice. The “hasty jump” is rarely wise. Maybe NEVER wise.

Now, I’m going to close by going back just slightly on what I said. One impression I got from the book is this:

America was blessed with WISE LEADERSHIP in both Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower. We are once again blessed with such leadership now, in President Donald J. Trump.

So with that, let The Q Tree Book Club begin!

W

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-day-after-roswell-philip-j-corso/1103252092

https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/9780671004613/

https://www.hpb.com/products/the-day-after-roswell-9780671004613

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Sadie Slays

The UFOs are secret military tech.
The “alien abductions” are MKULTRA fuckery.
Whatever will be presented to us as an “alien” was probably cooked up in a cabal laboratory somewhere on Earth.
Globalist Hollywood has a monopoly of influence on molding opinions about aliens. Ask random people their opinions on aliens and most will reference one Hollywood blockbuster or another. It’s all to sell the lie that aliens exist at all. The alien meme was pushed as means of hiding the cabal’s secret activities and agendas from us.

Sadie Slays

Let’s go on a brief tangent about secret Nazi agendas and Hollywood brainwashing. The way the textbooks, media, and Hollywood tell it, the only thing the Nazis did during WWII was put Jews in concentration camps. The deepest they ever delve into the Nazi’s obsession with the occult is Indiana Jones buffoonery and over-the-top gore in Wolfenstein video games. We don’t hear about the Satanism, the work on flying saucers, the Antarctica obsession, and so. I WONDER WHY.
(Indiana Jones–made by Steven Spielberg. Think of how much that ONE MAN has molded the world’s perspective on aliens and WWII. Hell, it’s in his damn name: SPIEL.)
Yeah, Roswell, 1950s flying saucers, Kecksburg (that name!)…secret Nazi technology.
So where did the Nazis get it from? Among the theories: Aliens, Vril women channelling demonic entities, the hidden human civilization inside Hollow Earth. My theory? It’s all ancient technology that the cabal has been hoarding from before the Deluge. “Ancient Aliens” is mere cover for the technology-advanced civilizations that were here before us and whose history they try to hide.

Sadie Slays

Take a concept like black holes, for example. All of the “science” we know about black holes is comes from a handful of men with Stephen Hawking providing the bulk of the research. Yes, Stephen Hawking—the man known for visiting Epstein’s pedo island and for being the only man in the entirety of human history to live with ALS for over 50 years. THAT Stephen Hawking. The point I’m trying to make here is that a lot of this science we take for granted came from a small number of questionable men like Stephen Hawking. They can make up whatever shit they want and sell it to us because what are we going to do to stop them? The vast majority of the population doesn’t understand science at that level. The few that do and would openly challenge it are quickly forced out of academia and blacklisted. And the plebs like me who say, “Hey…the origins of this theory are kinda suspicious” are kept in line with shame tactics like “you’re crazy/uneducated for even thinking this.”
(OF COURSE the occult cabal would want us believing that there’s something out there capable of destroying all of light. Very much in line with their beliefs.)

Covadonga

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All… we know about black holes… comes from a handful of men with Stephen Hawking providing the bulk of the research. Yes, Stephen Hawking—the man known for visiting Epstein’s pedo island and for being the only man in the entirety of human history to live with ALS for over 50 years. THAT Stephen Hawking.
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Wow, Sadie.
I have long been suspicious of the black hole stuff, but kudos to you for linking the scientific and philosophical problems with it directly to Hawking and to no fewer than three methods of the banksters for controlling him (carrot of access to underage kids, stick of underage kid blackmail, and carrot of life extension via elite medical technology,) as well as to motives for the banksters to actually want to control him like this.
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There is a class of theories in 20th century physics that all date from the age of the early “Progressives” (actually, regressives) or later, and that have the characteristic that each of them is said to be understood only by 6 men, or by some other small number, in the entire world.
These theories, and the awe in which they are held, have always bugged me. If a theory can only be understood by such a small group of specialists, some sort of obscurantism must be involved, or it is so overcomplicated, or so in defiance of the facts, that the proponents don’t understand it well enough themselves to explain it to anyone else.
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For reference, here is a timeline of the political/economic turning point in modern social regression:
1912 sinking of the Titanic
1913 castration of the state governments vis-a-vis the federal government, i.e. direct election of United States senators
1913 establishment of the Federal Reserve
1913 income tax
1914 to 1918 WWI
1915 Mexico, under Venustiano Carranza, becomes the 1st nation w/ a Marxist head of state
Oct 1917 Bolshevik putsch, Russia becomes the 2nd nation w/ a Marxist head of state
1924 (at the latest) Bolshevik Russians begin interfering in American presidential elections
Mar 1933 Josef Stalin sworn in as General Secretary of Communist Party (i.e. effective head of state) of the USSR
Mar 1933 Adolf Hitler sworn in as Chancellor of Germany
Mar 1933 Franklin Roosevelt sworn in as President of the United States
Nov 16, 1933 United States under Roosevelt becomes 1st major Western nation to diplomatically recognize Bolsheviks under Stalin as the government of Russia
1939 (1930 in East Asia) to 1945 WWII
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WWII made government funding of science and technology the overwhelming norm.
The rise of Stalin, Hitler, and Roosevelt made WWII possible.
The Federal Reserve made the rise of Stalin, Hitler, and Roosevelt possible.
The Federal Reserve and the income tax together put enough money at the disposal of Congress to enable government funding of science.
And Q has claimed that the sinking of the Titanic made the Federal Reserve possible, by killing all 3 of the greatest American industrialists who were opposed to it.
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So what physical theories are in this class, dating from the “Progressive” era, or later, and digestable only by small elite corps of experts?
A.) Einstein’s theory of General Relativity (not all relativity, but only Einstein’s take on relativity of bodies under acceleration.)
B.) The philosophical approach considered de rigueur for quantum theory (not all of quantum physics, but just the Central European, Kantian, anti-Aristotelian philosophical basis that quantum physics has been stuck with since the 1930s.)
C.) Big Bang cosmology. The Big Bang 1.0 was actually a creative and completely praiseworthy attempt at understanding, when it was first proposed in the early 20th century, and when it was but one of a number of competing models.
As new data became available throughout that century, however, every major new batch of data forced it to be altered in the direction of greater complexity, and decreased understandability.
So, as with the pre-Copernican theory of epicycles for explaining planetary motion, there is not one Big Bang theory, but a whole sequence of them, each one bulkier and less wieldy than its predecessor. And all of them lie wrecked by contact with unfriendly empirical observations, except for the latest behemoth, whatever it is.
The history of the Big Bang approach to grasping the origin of the cosmos is thus rather like a line of progressively larger whale carcasses lying strewn, in sequence, along the top of an ocean reef, all bleeding from wounds inflicted by the coral. At any given time, there is just one pod of even larger live whales, each gazing at what will be its own eventual fate, once enough new coral grows to pierce its flesh as well.
And, just as epicycles ignored later theoretic developments, such as those of Kepler and Copernicus, that simplified both the conceptual framework and the math, and eliminated the need for arbitrary postulates, the Big Bang ignores our modern understanding of plasma physics and celestial electromagnetism.
Born in an age when gravity was considered to be the only long-range force to control the interactions of heavenly bodies with each other at a distance, the Big Bang is obsolete now that we know enormous electric currents and magnetic fields pervade the plasma of space at the interplanetary, interstellar, intergalactic, and intercluster scales of distance. And electromagnetism is an enormously more powerful force than is gravity.
D.) All the obscurantist, “secret sauce” theories, based on imagined entities that are defined as not being observable. These theories are the bastard offspring that result from trying to mate physical reality with C.) above, while not causing hemorrhage. And usually they are attempts to cross C.) with B.) and/or A.)
The various secret sauces include Black Holes, Cosmic Super Strings, or whatever else is the latest flavor of the month. Some of these things (e.g. black holes) may actually exist. But, if so, we should certainly remain humble, for now, in attempting to describe their exact characteristics, as they are both far away and invisible.
Hawking Black Hole theory, of course, is anything but humble, claiming as it does to expound upon the details of the unobservable portions of black holes of all sizes and types, and at various stages in the evolution of the universe. All this while marrying the most unfamiliar and counterintuitive aspects of Einsteinian General Relativity with those of quantum physics. (The theoretical axioms at the base of Einsteinian relativity are known to be logically incompatible with those of quantum physics.)

Sadie Slays

Excellent comment tying it all together. Don’t have much else to add other science has morphed into the worst aspects of medieval organized religion where a handful of gatekeepers control the knowledge and tell the illiterate masses whatever best fits their agenda.

Covadonga

The Name of the Rose
That’s the role in society that the cabal identifies with, and the type of society that they aspire to live in. Just with better sanitary facilities.

Deplorable Patriot

Money and ego are easy tools to use to control scientists, especially the ones with a lot of letters after their names who are told day after day on college campuses that they are brilliant, the best, experts, etc.

Covadonga

“Let’s go on a brief tangent about secret Nazi agendas and Hollywood brainwashing. The way the textbooks, media, and Hollywood tell it…. The deepest they ever delve into the Nazi’s obsession with the occult is Indiana Jones buffoonery…. We don’t hear about the Satanism, the work on flying saucers, the Antarctica obsession, and so. I WONDER WHY.”
Since I reject the supernatural, I don’t think the occult ties into anything in the real world. But some people, like the Nazis, believe in the occult, and therefore it is worth studying, because their belief definitely affects their actions. And understanding them is important, in contrast to how, as you so correctly point out, our knowledge of them is channeled by the usual suspects into well-worn ruts.
‘My theory? It’s all ancient technology that the cabal has been hoarding from before the Deluge. “Ancient Aliens” is mere cover for the technology-advanced civilizations that were here before us and whose history they try to hide.’
I have long been fascinated by the idea of ancient knowledge that was lost. But I’m sceptical that sophisticated technology preceded the era of our historical record. I would need more evidence.
Nevertheless, there certainly were technologies (e.g. electroplating of gold, Antikythera navigational computer, pattern-forged blades,) in the ancient world that later perished.
But considering how something as mundane as the ancient Roman craft of producing filigreed jewelry did not survive Justinian’s Plague’s aftermath, the Last Great War of Antiquity, and the Saracenic wars (which overlapping events can collectively be called the “Dark Ages”,) whereas the ancient Indian craft of filigreed jewelry did survive until now as a living tradition, makes me sceptical some caste or association could retain much knowledge from even deeper in the past.
Or, to take a more recent example, consider how the techniques for making Stradivarius violins or other elite Renaissance instruments died out.

Sadie Slays

Take a look at the curious case of Puma Punku sometime. Granite rocks weighing several hundreds tons were moved many miles, very precisely cut, and then stacked together with no mortar like puzzle pieces. Scholars claim they don’t know how it was built since the official narrative claims humans only had rudimentary tools at the time. Funny how the scholars claim that about a lot of other ancient ruins. They’d rather have conspiracy theories proliferate about extraterrestrials coming to Earth and moving a bunch of rocks around than simply admit that maybe these ancient cultures had the knowledge and technology to build these ruins themselves.

Covadonga

Very interesting case. I don’t recall hearing of it before, but I have seen mind-bogglingly large cut stones from the world of the Incas with my own eyes.
Are you familiar with Dwarka? It’s a coastal temple city in Gujarat, western India, that allegedly has been rebuilt farther and farther up through the ages.
The earliest ruins are said (I can’t affirm this claim myself) to lie offshore in water so deep that, if they were in fact originally built on dry land, they must date from before the melting of the glaciers of the last ice age.

Sadie Slays

There are underwater ruins in Japan, too. Yonaguni Monument. Scholars want us to believe that this is a “natural formation.” Pfft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monument

Plain Jane

Was creatd in joint effort with the Russians in 2003.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/moscovium-uses-properties-discovery.html

Plain Jane

Interesting possibilities.

Plain Jane

Need linky, linky 🙂 please, or just dig. Will duck duck go find me anything good?

Plain Jane

TY bunches Wolfmoon. Appreciate this.

kalbokalbs

Great article.
Personally not “science ” smart.
That said, I cannot dismiss existence of aliens…be they living entity of sorts from elsewhere or AI from elsewhere. The latter created by living entity from elsewhere.
Admittedlt, I don’t know what I don’t know.
Like, the, ‘ I don’t want to believe. I want to know”.

Valerie Curren

Just ordered the Corso book from the library…so hopefully I can plow through…thanks for the suggestion.

Covadonga

I intend to read it, Wolf.
One modest suggestion I offer is to make sure any copy you read was printed on paper prior to your becoming well-known in the blog world. Protection against tailor-made evil influencer attack.

SingularZoe

Sadie, I absolutely agree with you, and I have tried to warn people about what I think will be the great delusion, and unless one’s trust in Christ is rock-solid, in which case I think the Lord will give wisdom to withstand, people will fall under the powerful deception, which will appear incredibly real.

Sadie Slays

When I was a teenager, my Christian neighbor told me that if I ever saw an alien that I should immediately drop to my knees and pray to God. I mocked it at the time (I wasn’t a good teenager), but the advice stuck with me. And you know what? I now believe that’s the absolute best way to handle such a situation. Pray to God for guidance/protection/help from whatever is being unleashed on us.

SingularZoe

When you’ve got the best, you don’t need any other advice. Your neighbor was very wise.

Sue Mcdonald

Bingo Sadie! I read a book many years ago about what aliens really were, and I wasn’t surprised in the least when the author bluntly said they were entities, evil ones that would bring about the great delusion so do not be deceived. The bible warns us about this great deception.I pray for wisdom and discernment every day.i realized long ago that our reality is all an illusion,fake to the core designed to keep our minds enslaved.its like I have told my kids on occasion ,what would you think or do if you saw a giant nephilium walking down the road? Same thing with aliens what would you think or do?

SingularZoe

Amen, Sue.

Sadie Slays

“our reality is all an illusion,fake to the core”
YES, EXACTLY THIS.

Covadonga

These are some very good catches, then exploited using very good logic.

Gail Combs

FWIW
Many years ago I say a ‘UFO’ with a couple other cavers. (Witnesses were Engineer, Chemist & NY state geologist)
We were watching a meteor shower in the boondocks south of Albany NY. We saw a bright light a pear and start moving at random. Then tree jets were scrambled out of Rome Airforce Base to chase the thing.
It made several right angle turns and then took off leaving the jets looking like draft horses racing a Formula 1 race car.
….
Fast forward to this spring.
We met a guy (very well educated son from Chicago Mafia family) Once he realized we were scientifically trained and would not blow him off the discussion got really interesting.
1. He discribed the same type of UFO I had seen.
2. He then discribed experiments by the Airforce using computer assisted turns. They found those ‘right angle turns’ at speed KILLED PEOPLE. He discribed the technical stuff but I can not remember it.
3. He mentioned agravity field as the way to deal with those ‘right angle turns’ ….
I really wish I had tape recorded that discussion and we had spent a lot longer with him. However my non-scientific friend was getting very bored.

Tonawanda

A friend and I delivered a rather large newspaper route in the 60’s. One evening when it was very dark out but the sky was clear, we both watched as a distinct bright light which, we thought, must have been an object of some sort, moved very quickly in the sky, “hovered” (remained motionless) at a point, and then moved quickly again at an angle. The phenomenon lasted a couple minutes, and the “object” appeared to be flying a series of triangles in a particular area of the sky.
My friend and I estimated that the object was flying over the Niagara Falls Air Force base which was about 20 miles away. We went home and actually called the air force base, talked to somebody, who knew nothing.
We discussed the phenomenon for a few days and forgot about it.
Years later I brought the subject up and my friend flat out denied that it happened. Now, anyone can believe what they want to believe, but I was stunned by his denial because it was so distinct of a memory. And my friend was not the sort who would have denied it because he was embarrassed. For instance, he genuinely believed in the existence of devils and diabolical spirits and would say so to anybody.
My friend was one of those modest people with an incredibly high IQ, and it was not surprising to me that he was an intelligence officer in the Marines. He also had another friend who had been an intelligence officer and who subsequently worked for the government by traveling all over the world and doing things he refused to specify.
What was my friend’s motivation in denying what we saw? Or was I having a false memory ? (NO, I was NOT).
That is my UFO experience.

Gail Combs

I saw my UFO in the early 1980s. And yeah it is NOT something you would forget.

Plain Jane

I wanted to understand the term “gray swan” better so I searched and bumped into this website. Anyone know anything about the site ?
Public I telligence Blog
https://phibetaiota.net/2019/08/j-c-cole-american-gray-swans-week-31-false-flag-hat-trick-or-more/

Plain Jane

TY Wolfie.

michaelh

It’s time to return publicly.

michaelh

In for a penny, in for a pound, eh?comment image
Lights in the Sky & Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials Paperback – June 1, 2002
Hugh Ross, Kenneth R. Samples, Mark Clark

This is my go to book for anything broadly falling under the category of “UFO”.
As an astronomer Hugh Ross is very familiar with atmospheric effects and phenomena that are often misrecognized by untrained observers and identified as “UFOs”. Many reports have extremely sensible explanations.
Part of the reason that they are misreported as “UFOs” is because of the increased plausibility of science in the popular worldview. In other generations, lands, or eras they would have been identified as banshees, fairies (the dangerous kind), or even as gods.
That said, astronomers are notriously scrupulous observers. Astronomy is still one of the most deeply invested observational sciences, whereas many others are theory or mathematically driven. Collections of observational data can be analyzed, but not all observations fit the categories of known phenomena. Ross defines these as “residual UFOs”, or “rUFO”.
Do a quick DuckDuckGo search and you should be able to find some helpful information, including video recordings with Dr. Ross.
The cliff notes version, for those who want to jump into the most controversial (and of course the most dismissable) is that a certain segment of rUFO encounters demonstrate the characteristics of intelligent beings with interdimensional capabilities. (This nicely provides a common explanatory framework for ancient and legendary accounts as well as contemporary.) These beings are not “aliens” as we normally think of them. In Christian theological terms they might be best described as angels, either heavenly or fallen.
Worth noting, is that a large number of these encounters seem to have occult elements mixed in. For example, the people reporting were occult practitioners, or were up at unusual times of night, etc. It seems particularly interesting that these rUFO encounters, regardless of what part of the world they are reported, occur mostly between 2AM and 3AM when humans should be sleeping but are susceptible to occult activity. It suggests that the encounters are far from random but highly interested in specific forms of human interaction.
“Aliens” as we popularly understand them – extra-terrestrial beings from the Moon (1910s-1920s) Venus/Mars (1930s-1940s) or other star systems (1950s) or galaxies (1970s) (they retreat farther and farther from Earth as near sites become less plausible for sustaining life) – simply do not exist. The Anthropic principle has virtually ruled out the possibility of life anywhere in the known universe except on Earth. Dr. Ross has a table in the back of the book (which is out of date – the newest table is at least three times longer) which shows all the characteristics necessary for advanced life to exist and flourish. This, combined with the impossible distances of intersteller much less intergalactic travel requires makes a definitive case that aliens do not exist, and could not have visited earth even if they did.

Gail Combs

Wolfie,
The guy we were talking about also suggested interdimensional and the UFO I watched certainly popped up out of nowhere and Just ‘disappeared’ after the jets started chasing it.
DANG, I really wish I had recorded that conversation. (Hubby got him into a lot of physics and he certainly knew his stuff.)

Deplorable Patriot

Why am I seeing flashes of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull after reading that?

SingularZoe

Appreciate your posts here, MichaelH, very informative.

michaelh

Beyond the Cosmos: What Recent Discoveries in Astrophysics Reveal about the Glory and Love of God Paperback – June 22, 2010
by Hugh Ross

Note that I haven’t read the 3rd edition. I’m sure it has some major improvements over the earlier editions I read.
In particular, WLC was extremely critical of many of the ideas and philosophies that Dr. Ross presented in the book. I read WLC’s remarks thoroughly and compared them with the book. I believe WLC makes a number of strong, important, and valid points. But in the end I think it provided opportunities to sharpen a manuscript that probably just went over most people’s heads. Not many people would have been in a position to provide the level of feedback that WLC delivered.
This books goes into the extra-dimensionality of the cosmos. If you have trouble thinking outside the box, this won’t be the book for you, because Dr. Ross will force you to think outside the tesseract. Stretching our thinking beyond three dimensions into multiple spacial dimensions and two-dimensional time will be a challenge if you aren’t used to thinking in those categories.
(For the record, I do not believe time is two-dimensional. My view of time is basically Aristotelian.)
Dr. Ross also goes into detail talking about contradictions, paradoxes and antinomies.comment image

Plain Jane

Oh my goodness. I have to get his book. Thanks Michaelh. DH and I often speak of the other dimension(s) heaven, hell, etc. People think of heaven as a place, rather than a dimension. When you think of God as I AM, your angel being in heaven but next to you, etc. scripture isn’t a mystery.

Plain Jane

Who is WLC please?

michaelh

WLC = William Lane Craig. Sorry, on the apologetics boards he’s so well known that he gets shortened to WLC in discussions 😉

Plain Jane

Thank you michaelh. I had no clue. I dabbled in a bit of apologetics, but just enough to explain the Catholic faith and general Christianity.
Is WLC an apologist for Christianity in general or for a specific denom. From what you’ve said, he sounds like he is general.
You sure make great comments. Thank you.

michaelh

He primarily argues in philosophy, philosophy of science, and cosmology. Very much a “mere Christianity” type of person. But incredible depth and breadth of study, and very sharp in debates. He’s fairly comparable with Peter Kreeft who I’m sure you’re familiar with.

Plain Jane

Yes, Peter Kreeft was the first author of apologetics that I read and referenced. Thanks bunches.

Plain Jane

I just added Reasonable Faith to my home screen. Can’t wait to peruse the site. Again, TY .

michaelh

Dr. Ross has been very controversial in Evangelical circles. The popularity of people like Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis, and the Institute for Creation Research, has made it challenging due to a high degree of dogmatism about the age of the earth. The young earth creation proponents have a history of attacking other viewpoints as either contradicting scripture or undercutting the authority of scripture. For his part Dr. Ross has done a very good job of weathering the storm with great patience and I respect him for his unflappable character. It would have been easy for him to focus the rest of his life on studying quasars but he chose a different path instead.

michaelh

I know Fundamentalism and the wooden Biblical literalism quite well. I try not to rock the boat too much – generally in my experience they are good people with their hearts in the right place. Yes there are also Fundamentalist churches that are spiritually abusive as well, I know that all too well. People who want to read the Bible for what it says and not what they want it to mean to them, lacking much training, will fall into literalism. What ends up happening is that they interpret the scripture in a wooden manner, stilting the words and in fact reading their own presuppositions into the text.
It is complicated because the radical leftists have been at TOTAL WAR against the science of interpretation for decades. They proposed all those crazy relativist hermeneutics that were completely untenable. This is when people were reading Derrida and thought that loving the text meant that the text was just a wax nose you could impose any shape to find the meaning you want. In Law, this is where we get the cadre of people who blithely declare the Constitution to be a “living” document – which in reality means that the text of the Constitution is dead because the meaning is whatever they impose upon it.
For the Fundamentalists, the seminaries were the bad guys in this battle, partly because frankly so many of them gave up even a pretense of being Christian in any meaningful sense. You could graduate Yale Divinity School and be a practicing Wiccan for all intents and purposes. Even the supposedly Evangelical seminaries were theologically adrift, such as Fuller’s staunch avoidance of “inerrancy” by any means necessary, which lead them to go neo-marxist and finally full blown SJW, turning out anti-Trump graduates watching every twist and turn of the Mueller investigation with baited breath… I know one in particular who was posting updates on LIFELOG as he was reading the Michael Wolff book! That’s the kind of think that won’t age well, looking back on your life and what you did for the Kingdom…
The problem of course is that wooden literalism is how cults form. (JWs are the textbook example of this.) They really want a Grammatico-Historical Hermeneutic in the tradition of Antioch, but to the untrained layperson they only know the word “literal” vis-a-vis “symbolic”, so it becomes very much a black and white issue to them. You are either a literalist or you are against the Bible. This Manichean dichotomy informs much of the Fundamentalist thinking, us versus the corrupt world, so Biblical “literalism” becomes a litmus test for fidelity to scripture and ultimately fidelity to Christ. That’s why the argument about the age of the earth is so fierce – it has become elevated in people’s minds to the level of being with Christ or being a heretic.
So generally I try politely to side-step the issue 😉
Until someone posts about UFOs and throws a wrench in the works…

Linda

If you believe in the Gap Theory, the earth could be any age.

Plain Jane

The age of the earth shouldn’t be contentious. It doesn’t matter. That is the point where literalists loose me. I think we will like Beyond Cosmos… Thank you bunches.

michaelh

Dr. Ross and Reasons to Believe have a lot of other books that are worth looking into, a lot of good material on cosmology. Very informative and rich with insights – especially if you end up talking with the Stephen Hawking types and need to bring them back down into reality.

Plain Jane

Good to know. The only people I ever knew who had zero belief were were Mensa types and they sadly couldn’t drop their pride long enough to open their eyes. I just pray for them for grace.

michaelh

LOL yes I know what you mean! Talking intelligently about cosmology or general philosophy is a great way to get inroads with them. The trick is to make sure to leave them with questions they have to figure out for themselves. I’ve known people that had some intellectual riddle stuck in their head for two years they tried to puzzle through. That’s just how these kinds of people are, even if it doesn’t make sense to the rest of us. Give them a Rubik’s cube and they’ll spend forever on it until they master how to solve it.

Plain Jane

Good advice.

michaelh

Breaking with a different set of thoughts and comments.
If we accept certain theoretical gaps in our understanding of physics, a few areas jump to mind:
* Unified theory of gravitation
* Interdimensionality
* Quantum Phsyics
* WLC has pointed out some problems with our current theories of physics of space and of time that are due for correction.
This is NOT surprising. Science history shows many times where scientists were not open to new views and it stifled scientific progress. An obvious recent one was the battle between “steady state” and “big bang” models of the universe – physicists were philosophically (and emotionally) committed to the “steady state” model and it held back cosmological discoveries in the early part of the 20th century. A closely related problem, was Einstein’s theories of relativity, which were revolutionary in large part because they required decisive breaks with the scientific philosophy of the time. Even still it didn’t stop Einstein from trying to cheat his way through the system – he got called out on his “cosmological constant” to make a fudge factor for implications in his theory that were somewhat uncomfortable…
Jumping forward to present, to echo Wolf’s sentiment, I want to ask a simple question: Precisely how did the Chinese suddenly become world leaders in the field of quantum physics? OK, I’ll just leave that… over there… WAY over there…
That said nation-states have AWESOME technological capabilities. We really have no idea because there hasn’t been a conflict since WWII that tested the technological limits of two highly scientific adversaries… partly b/c of the history of how THAT situation turned out…
So most people don’t even see it.
Highly Capable Fighter Drones, EM warfare, massive skyward projection systems (Radar+Visible+Infra), in addition to the points above – there are many possibilities hidden in plain sight.
Combine that with theatricality and the power of concealment. The ancient magicians, even for all their desperate dabbling in occultism, with their knowledge of alchemy, combine the magician’s craft of theatricality with the small things they learned to make. Fireballs seemed to appear from their cloaks like magic. Today we think nothing of infantry ducking and throwing grenades. But the magician’s craft in warfare, combined with clever use of concealed technologies, in the framework of psychological warfare operations, on a chessboard in which multiple domains of warfare are conducted simultaneously in a full-spectrum of hybrid offensive operations, means that most people will be blind to what can be conducted against them.

mollypitcher5

I can’t speak to ANY of the scientific things because I’m too dense but on a practical level or a reasoned deduction..how can anyone not see the images from ancient carvings from tribes and cultures that had no common link, not remotely geographically connected…that all had similar oral history of gods descending from the heavens. There are stone carvings, cave paintings of (air)crafts, outer garments that look very much like spacesuits .
How can this be dismissed? Am I nuts?

mollypitcher5

I almost tend to believe that religion’s explanation of ascensions and immaculate birth and going to mountain tops for divine instruction, etc is the same thing as the scoffed at UFO explanations.
Seems mighty close in appearance to me.
Whether it’s angels or aliens…have we been designated too backward to be told the truth in clear easy to understand terms?

Plain Jane

Think of the Ascension of Our Lord in terms of Him moving to another dimension, within an inch or two of those who witnessed His ascension, then disappearing. Plausible.
Have you ever heard of the book Flatland? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland
It’s a start to thinking in terms of dimensions.

Sadie Slays

Have you ever looked into alt-history theories? There was probably an advanced (human) global civilization—more advanced that our current one—that was wiped out in the Deluge. It would explain the similar legends, imagery showing technology, and so on. Cabal would rather have you believe it was “ancient aliens” than have the truth come out that they’ve been hiding this history and technology from us for millennia.

mollypitcher5

I took a two minute look into alt-history and came up with this vid. Very convincing.. My question would be..who/what is this Cabal that would or could span eons of time with one purpose..to keep mankind ignorant ? Why? Is there no higher power that can thwart them?

Sadie Slays

The simple answer to “Why?” is to hoard power for themselves and keep the rest of us enslaved. This child raping, child sacrificing, evil-worshipping cabal that we’re dealing with now has been around for millennia and knows damn well what happens when people realize how sick and evil they are. Gotta keep everyone in the dark and overworked so that nobody can figure out what the cabal is up to and challenge their power.
And as for the rest…it’s all boils down an eternal battle of good vs. evil. The details are probably incomprehensible to us.

Valerie Curren

I’m watching this video w/ a leaning toward a young earth creationist’s viewpoint (not solidified in my thinking)…so…in the order they are shown in the video…
Artifact 1 iron hammer w/ wood handle could be a pre-flood (Noah’s flood) tool that was preserved in flood sediments. I believe that some creationists believe that the layers of earth’s sediments were primarily formed from the cataclysm of Noah’s flood…so that hammer would be more along the lines of 5000 years old from a “young earth” viewpoint…the handle turning to coal…my husband discovered how to turn wood into coal over the weekend when he buried a smoldering campfire & later the dog dug up some of the remnants & the wood had turned to “coal”…he was very excited about the survivalist possibilities for water filtration from this accidental discovery.
Artifact 2 stone doll found about 300 feet down in digging for a well. Could also be in a flood deposit, see above. Could have been dropped into an ancient well & traveled deeper via the underwater coarse to be discovered when the more modern well digging occurred…
Artifact 3 strange man-made bell found encased in coal. If these coal deposits are also by-products of Noah’s flood as above then this could be an object fabricated before the flood & surviving encased in flood sediments that eventually hardened into coal…
Artifact 4 Coso artifact “sparkplug” encased in a rock that was thought to be a geode. This item appears to be of more modern origin than the other 3. Could it have been encased/encrusted with mineral deposits like the modern yet fossilized fedora?
Artifact 5 called grooved spheres appear to be created by humans & could also have been buried in the Noaic flood…
The main issue with all of these items is the “dating” techniques employed for their locations. I believe young earth creationists have sought to show that various “dating” techniques are extremely flawed, but I’m not well-versed enough in that subject to go further. All items but the “sparkplug” are likely from ancient times. The sparkplug could have been encased by the geologic processes that have caused fossilization of modern items…None of these appear to “prove” the existence of aliens, imho…

rayzorbak

“Scientists” tell us:
This “Item” is how ever old….
How do you know that?
We found it in the so and so layer of rock.
How do you know how old the rock is?
We found this “Item in it!
Circular Logic abounds in “them” 🙂

Valerie Curren

Unfortunately for us all that “reasoning” is Very unscientific!

SingularZoe

Valerie, thank you. You always have an interesting take on things. I also tend to believe in a young earth creation, and the preflood earth fascinates me. I’m reading a book, which is from a very different evolutionary viewpoint, called How to Invent Everything. It is stretching my mind into all kinds of directions, though viewpoint of author different from mine.

Valerie Curren

Thanks, Zoe. I enjoy reading mind-stretching items too! 🙂

Plain Jane

Wolfie, this is a great thread. So interesting. Sad that I have to hold off till tonight to read to digest.

Plain Jane

🙂

scott467

Q: “The month of AUGUST is traditionally very HOT.”
__________________
The month of August ALSO starts to get very SHORT after the 20th or so, and today is the 22nd.
So if you were planning on doing anything that would be ‘HOT’, or a ‘boom’, or even a ‘tick tock’, we’re running out of August.
Unless Q meant NEXT August, of course…

grandmaintexas

🌟🌟🌟🌟

Marica

Wolfie! I just read the 1st chapter…And was Fascinated!!!!!! Not Sure where –And Relgion–My Religion falls into all this…But I will absolutely read with an Open mind…I didn’t even think I would like reading it..But it is engrossing from the 1st page !!!!And I like the idea of it helping us to understand The Great Awakening…
Appreciate this POST!!! Thank you!!

Marica

Qwel!!!! I like the QTree book Club already!!❤❣

Plain Jane

I’m going to get the book asap. Will phone library tomorrow.

ozzytrumpster

Brought the book. Will do my homework
From draw and strike for those camping at the bit
It cannot be stressed enough how vital it is that Trump has started flipping the courts, especially the 9th Circuit.
He tries to change Flores a year ago, the court STOPS him. The activist judges wouldn’t let LYNCH change it.
But they are gone now.
I talked about this several times over the past two years, how there were LEGITIMATE REASONS Trump and Co. had to take it slow on bringing about immigration reforms as well as making the decision to finally begin rolling up the SpyGate plotters.
Trump **must** have the courts.
It’s not even debatable.
Without these courts having flipped, going early would have wasted an awful lot of time and resources and tipped his hand about a lot of things.
It’s better to wait until the battleground has been prepared & then lure the enemy onto it.
I’ve spent two years pushing back against narratives that were essentially demanding that Trump do a suicidal banzai charge straight into the guns of the entrenched elite classes’ defenses, **especially** on SpyGate.
“If he has it all, what’s he waiting for?” people have been asking me for 2 years now.
**THEY** don’t see any reason for Trump to wait. They think he should have declassified it all & hit the plotters with indictments back in 2017 or 2018.
I’ve explained a lot of this narrative was based on **fear** that the Mueller SC was going to do serious damage to this President, so it simply mystified these people why Trump refused to ‘fight back’.
They rejected my counter-narrative that Trump was in no danger whatsoever.
So a lot of the **urgency** that Trump **must go now** and lay all his cards on the table was driven by a false narrative that Mueller was closing in for the kill & clueless Trump was making all the wrong moves.
In fact, Trump was making all the right moves.
Trump knows all kinds of stuff that you and I don’t. So if he’s taking the patient, strategic, long-term approach, people running around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming for him to ACT NOW TO SAVE HIMSELF, just maybe there’s something these people aren’t seeing.
There are a whole lot of things Trump is now / can now do this year, where if he’d tried these things back in 2017/2018 he’d have gotten nowhere, the courts would have blocked him immediately.
He’s in no danger of being removed from office or forced to resign.
In fact, he’s very likely going to coast to a massive landslide victory in 2020 and get the second term.
And all of a sudden courts are handing him major victories.
Too many people bought in to DNC MEDIA NARRATIVES about how much danger Trump was in.
These people are now reduced to tweeting at me endlessly about Dan Coats or Chris Wray, two supposed traitors that Trump just couldn’t spot or deal with.
I heard all kinds of convoluted explanations about why Trump leaves Deep State saboteurs in key jobs.
I buy none of them.
Those folks still can’t figure out why Rosenstein got that heroe’s sendoff from the DOJ. They still think he was a snake.
The look at the CURRENT SITUATION Trump is now in, and they can’t tie it the careful strategy of the past 2 years.
It’s kinda amazing.
Now, as I’ve said before, some people are going to end up adopting the narrative that Trump is just the LUCKIEST SON OF A BITCH in the world.
He literally f’d up every top appointment at the DOJ, FBI, CIA, St. Dept. etc for 2 years by putting saboteurs out to get him in power.
I’m telling you right now: IT’S NOT LUCK.
Butthurt people who got it wrong that can’t admit they got it wrong will have to say it’s luck.
But Trump isn’t in the position he’s in now because he’s just that lucky.
Let me show you 1 of the times I explained this over the past 2 years.
Here’s a column of mine way back in January where I discussed the key role the courts were going to play in Trump’s long term strategy:
Trump Continues to Prepare the Battlefield
People claiming Trump needs urgency and to move quickly right now as if Trump’s in any real danger are misreading what’s actually happening.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-continues-to-prepare-the-battlefield_2770855.html
Here I discussed the ‘court phase’ of Trump’s strategy.
I focus here mainly on the Supreme Court, but flipping the federal appeals courts is also key to Trump’s plans moving forward with a lot of his agenda; on immigration, on SpyGate and many other issues.
Remember how the script for 2019 was **supposed** to go when these political elites were writing it back in 2017 and 2018.
Trump is supposed to be well on his way out of office by now, either effectively sabotaged to the point he can’t govern or facing impeachment.
Trump’s poll #’s are supposed to be at historic lows at this point.
He’s supposed to hemmed in by the courts, who were to block everything he is trying to do.
Mueller is supposed to have cause massive damage to him as impeachment hearings get underway.
Look around.
Do you SEE any of this happening?
Because I sure don’t.
I see Trump’s poll #’s CLIMBING above where Obama was at this point in his first term.
I see courts -even the 9th! – handing Trump major victories.
Nadler’s ‘impeachment hearings’ are a joke.
I see Trump holding MASSIVE rallies that break attendance records.
I see declassification happening one drip at a time as more and more judges get confirmed & flip the courts.
You’re about to see a reelection campaign like nothing else that has ever happened before.
Democrats use of lawfare stymied Trump on a lot of things the last 2 years, but the tide is turning.
Trump’s patience is going to pay off.
By this time next year, August of 2020 we’re going to have seen some astonishing things.
Having to wait will have been worth it.
/end
Oh was going to mention: the ONE TIME Lynch & the Obama admin. did something on immigration that made sense, changing the Flores Agreement because it caused the # of illegal family units coming to the border to drop by over 40%, the activist judges on the 9th leaped to stop it.
And I’m pretty sure Obama/Lynch did this knowing that the courts would immediately reverse it; then they could say “Oh well, we tried!” and give up.

Gail Combs

Nice Rant,
I agree. I was also yelling WE NEED THE COURTS FIRST OT

Marica

Thanks OZZY I read this too!! About the only thing going on right now….Oh..And Sarah H Sanders is joining Fox and Friends!! I’ve been missing her!!!

Sylvia Avery

Hello, stranger, LOL! Thought I’d take a walk on the wild side here….Missing everyone SO MUCH. See you back “home.”

Marica

This lil post is definitely on the WILD SIDE Sylvia!!! It’s a bit slow in the “news dept…” Really appreciate Wolfie writing this up!!

Sylvia Avery

Yes, MOST interesting!

Alison

Bravo, Ozzie! 👍👍👍

SingularZoe

Ozzy, I’ve said much the same thing, that people need to be patient, but lately I’ve had to fight cynicism creeping into me. Thank you for reminding me what I have believed all along. We must not get discouraged, it is so hard to wait. Only part I’m not sure about is Rosenstein.

Sylvia Avery

Excellent, ozzy, thank you so much.

Teagan

Thanks…great post!

nikkichico7

Big Big thank you Ozzie, what you posted helped me. I do believe our VSGPT is all you said I am thankful and RELIEVED … he’s got this … and I bought more popcorn 🍿 today .. 😃👍‼️
I appreciate your words .. 🙂

Gail Combs

SNICKER….

Alison

Wolfe, the curves of my reality began changing once SD put a name & explanation (Uniparty; secretly-funded loyal opposition) to my unsettling ongoing puzzlement as to why even when Republicans win, We the People never seem to win.
It forever changed both me & my way of assessing information, humans & phenomena. NOTHING is as it seemed.
I have zero knowledge or understanding about which you write, but my ticket on the roller coaster is for a non-stop excursion. Because we have no other choice.
I will read the book!

Sylvia Avery

I’m with you Alison.

Alison

Great to see you here, Sylvia 😘😘. Stay rested & healthy, my friend. You got lots on your plate, and we’re keeping you with us in the Wolf Den Spirit! 💞

Sylvia Avery

Thank you Alison. Whenever I’m here is just feels so GOOED in PHC-speak and I think how very, very much I miss you all. XOXO. Thanks for keeping the light on for me.

Gail Combs

Sylvia,
Thanks for keeping PHC company and his spirits up. It is not something I am cut out for although I think of him often.
We each have our strenghs and weaknesses so we all should do what we do best.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Gail. It is an honor and a privilege to keep this American hero laughing and distracted to the extent I can. He’s a wonderful man, and a dear friend.

SingularZoe

Sylvia, so good to see you here, and please do give PHC my regards and best wishes. We all think of and pray for him. Thank you for all you do to keep his spirits up.

duchess01

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Harry Lime

I love a good book recommendation! I’ve been searching for one on this topic for a while now and have always held off because there are SO MANY out there for sale I never knew where to turn.
I’ll be buying this one for sure and digging right in. Thanks, Wolf!!!

Marica

Harry!! and now we have people to talk about it with!!! you can read the entire 1st chapter from Wolfie’s post…Just Click on it!!!

Harry Lime

Take Me To Your Leader…comment image

Marica

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sylvia Avery

IKR????? This is great stuff.

Harry Lime

It’s good to see you here, Sylvia. I hope all is well with you!

Sylvia Avery

I’m fine…..MISS YOU though! Serious!

Harry Lime

Same. Take your time…we’re not going anywhere!comment image

Sylvia Avery

LOL…..I’m so glad you’re not!

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll wait for the reviews.
Just in the way of information, this book was published by Pocket Books, which is a subsidiary of Simon & Schuster, itself now a subsidiary of CBS. Anything “conspiracy” related published by one of the big houses in NYC needs to have that considered in the open mindedness. It’s not just television programming, “news,” movies, music, etc., that shapes the culture. Books do also, and in the 20th century American publishing was NOTORIOUS for pushing social agendas with who and what was published (Upton Sinclair, Herman Wouk, John Steinbeck, Ernest Hemingway, Faulkner – and then there were the play writers).
And I’ll just say this, science SHOULD be about the pursuit of truth. That being the case, religion should have no issue with it, so long as the goal is the pursuit of truth without disturbing God’s order. In fact, some of the biggest names in the history of science were themselves clergy and lay religious, including the father of genetics (Father Gregor Mendel, Augustinian monk), the priest who first posited the big bang theory (Father Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, Jesuit), Albertus Magnus, chemist, who we know as St. Albert the Great (Dominican friar). I could go on. The idea of extra-terrestrial life needs to pursue that same truth, and given the track record of the New York publishing world that really is a tool of the cabal, I’ll wait for the reviews.

Marica

DP!
And I’ll just say this, science SHOULD be about the pursuit of truth. That being the case, religion should have no issue with it, so long as the goal is the pursuit of truth without disturbing God’s order.
Agreed!!! And appreciate your honest skepticism regarding the publishers and their agendas!!

Deplorable Patriot

And now that I’ve thought about it more, the stuff that was allowed to be published on what the cabal is/was really up to, the entire print runs would be bought up the day they were available, and disappeared. These books are still available.
Hate to be a cynic on books since I’m an avid reader, but….

Deplorable Patriot

I wish I could share your optimism. I just don’t have the good vibes for this.

Tonawanda

Was shocked to find it on Audible.

Aubergine

Hi Wolf! Guess what? I found this link to a pdf of the book to download for FREE!
http://www.galactic.no/rune/spesBoker/the_day_after_roswell.pdf
Yes, I’m cheap.

mollypitcher5

Mucho thanks Aubergine!

Plain Jane

Thank you Aubergine.

Harry Lime

Pocket Books…Meg from across the street worked at Pocket Books…back when David Letterman was somewhat funny…comment image

Exfiltration of Wealth

I am excited at the prospect of the Overton Window becoming larger………..everything happens for a reason. Thank you for sharing Wolf, and especially for allowing me to hang out around here.

holley100

Reserved it at the library. Looking forward to reading it!

Sylvia Avery

love to hear what you think of it….!

holley100

Think it will be a challenging read for me but I’ll give it a shot.

Linda

Just an FYI. Before I buy a book, I like to read the reviews. I pay special attention to the critical reviews. Especially with UFO books, the vast majority of reviews always seem to be positive and uncritical. So I qued up the critical reviews. Quite a few reviewers mentioned the fact that Corso in later interviews said that his co-author had put stuff into the book that wasn’t true and that he totally disagreed with. No mention on which things. So I would advise some caution.
Another reviewer mentioned the fact that several of the things that Corso claim came from reverse engineering alien technology were already being worked on in the private sector long before Roswell happened. Another reviewer said this:
“Almost too good to be true – a government department set up to evaluate and distribute alien technology to large corporations in order to reverse engineer. Apparently this is how we acquired fibre optics, lasers and stealth technology. After reading X Descending and Project Beta, this reads like government misinformation to perpetuate the alien myth. I’m not saying that I don’t believe in UFOs and aliens – this just reads as a little “too good to be true”.
This is not an attempt to discourage anyone from reading the book. Just a word of caution about accepting anything at face value. Personally, I’m very skeptical of ETs, but not EDs (extra-dimensionals). If you believe the Bible, then you know that EDs have always been here, just in a different realm. Also in the Bible, there is to be a mass delusion in the last days. This could very well be it. And I wouldn’t doubt that the cabal, Satanists all, are right in the middle of it.

SingularZoe

Linda, love what you’ve siad here. You always have the meat of the matter in you. Thank you.

Deplorable Patriot

Thank you. Yet another angle to consider. Adding information…sneaky.

Harry Lime

“Just a word of caution about accepting anything at face value.”
This is always wise advice regardless of what you happen to be reading or watching…even more so today than ever before.
We can’t even believe in our own government’s official reports…or what we see every day on the so called “news.”
Thanks for digging through the reviews, Linda. I plan to read it with a healthy dose of skepticism while seeking any nuggets that can be useful. I expect some of it will be over my head. In any case I’m sure I’ll be entertained while doing reading it and learn a few things along the way. That’s all I ever ask for in a book.

Harry Lime

This was meant in reply to Linda’s post above ^^^

Harry Lime

It must be the subject matter, Wolfie…you’ve woken the ancient ones…

Gail Combs

Nah, Millennials in Mommy’s Basement. They are cheaper.

cthulhu

Wha?

Marica

You know Linda…That’s a very interesting take regarding “putting stuff in…” I read the first chapter…Book is coming on Saturday…Maybe the Alien Part was “added by the editors/publishers”…to make it more Juicy… Maybe the UFO was actually a 1947 type Drone? hmmmm

Linda

Ha ha ha! Who knows, right? However, we do know that the nazis were working on aircraft that look very similar to what our current B2 bomber looks like, as well as some that were more saucer shaped. I’ve seen photos of those. And some of the people brought in under Operation Paperclip were working on them. That’s another reason I’m skeptical that this supposed craft that crashed was alien.

Marica

It will be an interesting topic to discuss while the news is a bit slow…

Marica

Really looking to reading it!!!

Gail Combs

“…ASSUMING THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN ALIEN CRASH….”
Wolfie,
That triggered another 1/2 memory from that conversation I had….
The guy said the right angle turns were needed for evasive maneuvering …
There was some other detail I just can not bring up on passive defense…
But he indicated there was MORE than ONE TYPE and they were hostile towards each other. That might explain the crash.

Valerie Curren

Wasn’t there a relatively recent release of “alien/ET” files on an international level? Does any of that material correspond to stuff in the book? Has anyone published something since that governmental dump that comprehensively investigates & incorporates material from those files against known “legitimate” writings?

Sylvia Avery

Wow, Wolfie….Mind blown. Great article. Look forward to reading the book…..in a little while.

Marica

Here’s 1 interview
https://binged.it/30smNZt

nikkichico7

I like this post Wolf 🐺 …. it’s a lot so I’m taking my time. Thank you so very much for all you do, you’re awesome … 🤨👍❤️🇺🇸❤️‼️😉🤚

redlegleader68

W – thank you so much for this post which, to my way of thinking, explains “the great awakening.” I’ve ALWAYS thought it was much more than election shenanigans.
My perspective on this comes from the archaeological point of view (Indiana Jones, anyone??)
I was so fortunate during my biz career just after getting out of the Army in the very early 70 to read the first editions of Eric van Danigan’ and “CHARIOTS OF THE GODS.”
Why is this important here? Well my biz travels took me all over the world, but most importantly to South America to the sites he describes BEFORE THE TOURIST RUSH BEGAN.
I stood in the “Puerto del Sol” in Tiahuanaco before tourists and actually before all the current excavations were completed. I walked freely by myself amongst the ruins of Pumapunku just beside Tiahuanaco and my friend and biz associate flew me in his plane over the plains of Nasca before the tourist invasion.
Of course we visited many times Machu Picchu and environs.
I will never be convinced that these extraordinary sites were the work of locals some (at least) 10,000 years ago. OK, 3500 years ago. Not happening.
My perspective underwent my own “Great Awakening” back then with my personal conversion to the what I now consider are our God of the Universe.
As a practicing Catholic, I find no friction in my beliefs and those of the order of the universe. Much like Galileo Galilei I do not believe that we’re the center of “everything.” We’re simply a part of God’s greater plan.
It has been postulated that there are more galaxies in the universe than there are stars in the Milky way galaxy.
Think about that.
And He created it all.
So why would He have not put in motion events where others “created in His image” would not have visited us in the past (and now!) simply preparing us for His “Great Awakening?”

wheatietoo

Wow, Redlegleader…you’ve seen Puma Punku?
That is sooo cool!
😃🤩
Puma Punku is the most fascinating ancient site that we have discovered so far, IMHO.
There is simply no conventional explanation for how those carved stones came to be there…as well as the level of technology that would have been required to construct them.
It’s like traditional archaeologists are afraid of studying that site.
Mainstream archaeology has had that site on ‘ignore’.

michaelh

There is so much technological knowledge that has been lost, even with our own lifetimes, it is really impossible to catalog.
I’m quite confident that if tested for intelligence, ancient people would have greater intellectual capacity on the whole than their contemporary descendants. They did pretty well building all the ancient wonders and plenty of other things without the advantage a four function calculator.comment image

Deplorable Patriot

I agree. Ancient humans were smarter than the credit generally given.

para59r

Which is silly and demonstrates peoples ignorance because they were no different than we are today and just as smart, minus all the distractions but theirs was a world of discovery. Not that ours isn’t but so much has been discovered its become impossible to be an expert in all.
What saddens me most when reading through histories is to hear of all the different large and small libraries in the world being destroyed time after time.

Gail Combs

Actually modern humans have LOST 10% in brain size!
If Modern Humans Are So Smart, Why Are Our Brains Shrinking?
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking

Aubergine

I read a great book years ago, and for those who have trouble reconciling science and religion, I highly recommend it.
It’s call “The Language of God,” written by Francis S. Collins. He is a religious scientist.
I myself have never had a problem with integrating science and religion. I just think most scientists and mystics, like all human beings, have an imperfect understanding of concepts which are really just too big for the mere human mind. So, we all bumble along, in our human way, some leaning on science, and some on religion, which I believe are both the same thing in different words.
I am open to any and all possibility, Wolfmoon, and I have downloaded the book to read as I can. Thanks for sharing your life experiences with us.

Gail Combs

I had no trouble with reconciling science and religion.
How do you explain calculus to a four year old or the mechanics of flight to the uncontacted tribes in South America?
You don’t.
You have to use concepts and language the people understand.
The Garden of Eden?
How about Africa at the end of the last Ice Age when the Holocene was hotter and Africa was much wetter?
The Deluge?
How about the catastrophic draining of ancient Lake Agassiz during the Younger Dryas?
Most humans settle on coastal lands and rivers and lakes. Therefore the draining of Lake Agassiz would be cataclysmic. There are certainly stories of ‘The Flood’ in many cultures not just the Judeo-Christian.

cthulhu

I’ve generally suspected that The Flood was the filling of the Mediterranean once it reconnected to the Atlantic. I’m sure the occasion was memorable.

michaelh

No doubt he’s there somewhere on my overflowing bookshelves lol

wheatietoo

Wow. What an epic post, Wolf…and thank you so much for making it!
Awesome.
Been fascinated with Space since I was a little kid observing ‘falling stars’ for the first time.
I mean…to a kid, stars are one of the constants in our little world.
So seeing one ‘fall’ opened up all sorts of Questions:
“Why did it fall?”
“Why don’t they all fall?”
“Where did it fall from?”
And…so on.
Consequently, I’ve always enjoyed watching/reading Science Fiction.
Key word there is…Fiction.
Even though I know it’s fiction, it’s still entertaining…and fun to critique it.
In contemplating the idea of Extraterrestrials, my next ‘big question’ was…
Why would they come here?
Why would these technologically advanced life forms choose to come to this little blue planet, located in this corner of the Universe?
It wasn’t until we developed more advanced telescopes and telemetry, and were able to see further out into Space, that I began to see the Answer to that Question:
Turns out…our little blue planet is singularly unique and rare.
Our planet is a grocery store of flora, fauna and mineral deposits.
So it makes sense that the earth would be of interest to other life forms who have the ability to travel in Space.
As far as the idea of ‘Science versus Religion’…I think the two are related.
I think that Science confirms the existence of God.
I think that God speaks to us through the physical world that He created.
The physical world is where we get our ‘absolutes’.
It is where we learn the basics of what is real, and thus learn the Truth.
Absolutes such as…’water is wet’ and ‘fire burns’.
Our Creator gave us the gifts of reason and inquiring minds…and also the gift of free will.
So I think that he wants us to explore the physical world that he has created.
In other words, God gave us the gift of scientific inquiry…because in His infinite wisdom, He knew that it would lead to the confirmation of His Existence.
This is why ‘Fake Science’ is such an abomination!
It is an especially pernicious form of propaganda that is a blasphemy of what our Lord has given us.
As far as the existence of other intelligent life forms out there in the Universe…
I think it would be rather arrogant for us to suppose that we are the only ones that God would create.
Have we in fact been visited by some of these intelligent life forms?
I don’t know.
There are some rather compelling clues that the answer to that Question is ‘yes’.
And I eagerly await more concrete evidence to be revealed.
😀

mollypitcher5

GREAT post Wheatie. Agree and my view is that yes we have been visited and possibly more.
If we believe in a Creator capable of forming this planet and human life then wouldn’t it stand to reason that all planets and bodies in space were also created by the same entity?

Gail Combs

wheatietoo,
I couldn’t agree more.
One of my great disappointments was when the PROMISE of the Apollo missions… crumbled….
I am so happy that President Trump is reviving the US space exploration goals.
The whole Green New Deal, “Let’s REGRESS back to the 16th century” crap makes me shutter. The answer to challenges is SCIENCE, Technology and God, not crawling back into a cave.
Actually an increase of 2 to 3 degrees (C) would be GREAT! Canada and Russia become capable of growing a lot more food. The whole earth gets ‘wetter’ the deserts retreat and the earth’s weather systems become calmer. It is the DECREASE of 3 to 5 degrees(C) that is the real killer!comment image

cthulhu

I’m glad that you implicitly referred to the crumbling of the PROMISE of Apollo, rather than the OBJECTIVE. The OBJECTIVE was accomplished….pretty much…..as well as could be expected for government work……
But the PROMISE got an advanced case of bureaucratic rot with complications of ‘America Last’ FAIL. When you reflect on all of the best, brightest, brash-ist, and ballsiest aerospace accomplishments (SR-71, Apollo, Voyager, etc.) having been done with slide rules, it knocks you back a bit.
But there are little rays of hope. Opportunity was a fine project, fully computerized from start to finish, and decided to continue its scheduled 90-day mission for an additional 14 years and change. It is a profoundly American thing to have rovers with “pluck” [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover) ].

SingularZoe

Gail. very much agree with you. Little rise in temps would be great.

ForGodandCountry

“Nothing can stop what is coming”
What is coming??
Laymen terms, please.

Gail Combs

The truth revealed about the EVIL of the Cabal.
Just how much will be revealed is the question. Q seems to indicate that some information is SO nasty that it will not be revealed.
Remember Q said they will not be able to walk the streets. Also the Smollett Fiasco was to get a federal anti-lynching bill passed. Why was it so vital to get that bill passed. Are they frighten of being lynched by patriots?

Covadonga

As the Q movement expands, we work better and better together, the Mockingbirds are defeated, and there is an overthrow of So CIA Media, there will be a lot of things that are LEARNED on our end, without having been DISCLOSED.

rayzorbak

I often ask God WHY?
Why did he Pique my interest over the YEARS and immerse me in the Deep (Often Years long)investigation(s) of:
The Constitution?
Freedom and Liberty?
Christianity?
Calvinism? Arminianism? The early “Church” etc.
Grace and Mercy?
“Evil” and “Sin”?
The beliefs of differing “Religions”?
The Nephilim and the Deluge?
The “Cycles” of LIFE?
Music? (it’s origins, arrangement and effects)
The Bible “Code”?
Numerology and Symbolism?
Evolution?
Ancient History?
American (Western) History?
The “Occult”? (Aleister Crowley and others)
The Free Masons? (Skull and Bones, etc)
“Government” Deceptions?
“Religious” Leaders and their Deceptions?
“Conspiracy Theories”? i.e.
Flat Earth?
Archeology? (Easter Island, Stonehenge, Pyramids, Incas, Mayans, etc.)
Holocaust?
Moon Landing?
9-11-01? (LYING Media)
“Q”?
MK Ultra?
Project Mockingbird?
Project Blue Beam?
Project Paperclip?
And MOAR.
“Young” Earth vs “New” Earth (In the beginning, the Earth was made “New”… as opposed to made)
“Aliens”?…. My personal belief is that “Aliens” are fallen Angels….. Like the Nephilim. The Apocryphal book of Enoch has some interesting reading. The book of Ezekiel in the Bible talks of “The wheels in the sky”…. The Bible also mentions Human Translation into Heaven without dying.
I know a little about all of these things, but NOT too much about any one in particular.
I try to keep an “Open Mind” about most ALL things.
I believe what I think the Lord has shown me, but will listen to other “Ideas”.
I am old enough to be pretty set in my beliefs, so contradictions must be very convincing.
God does NOT “Love” everyone as many believe…. Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
An often overlooked reason for Jesus to come to Earth (Born of the Virgin Mary) was…. For the INSPIRED writers if the Scriptures to have something to write ABOUT!
Saul… who persecuted and KILLED Christians was Transformed into the Apostle Paul by God himself….. He had NO part in his “salvation”
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Everyone Relax…. God has this in control….. He is using Trump as he planned, before he MADE the World.
I have to believe that He will use Me (and YOU) for HIS purpose(s) when the time is right.
After all is said and done, I hope to meet Many of YOU in Heaven someday 🙂
The Nephilim and the Deluge?
The “Cycles” of LIFE?
Music? (it’s origins, arrangement and effects)
The Bible “Code”?
Numerology and Symbolism?
Evolution?
Ancient History?
American (Western) History?
The “Occult”? (Aleister Crowley and others)
The Free Masons? (Skull and Bones, etc)
“Government” Deceptions?
“Religious” Leaders and their Deceptions?
“Conspiracy Theories”? i.e.
Flat Earth?
Archeology? (Easter Island, Stonehenge, Pyramids, Incas, Mayans, etc.)
Holocaust?
Moon Landing?
9-11-01? (LYING Media)
“Q”?
MK Ultra?
Project Mockingbird?
Project Blue Beam?
Project Paperclip?
And MOAR.
“Young” Earth vs “New” Earth (In the beginning, the Earth was made “New”… as opposed to made)
“Aliens”?…. My personal belief is that “Aliens” are fallen Angels….. Like the Nephilim. The Apocryphal book of Enoch has some interesting reading. The book of Ezekiel in the Bible talks of “The wheels in the sky”…. The Bible also mentions Human Translation into Heaven without dying.
I know a little about all of these things, but NOT too much about any one in particular.
I try to keep an “Open Mind” about most ALL things.
I believe what I think the Lord has shown me, but will listen to other “Ideas”.
I am old enough to be pretty set in my beliefs, so contradictions must be very convincing.
From time to time… God gives me what I call: Golden Nuggets if TRUTH” (Ah Ha moments)
God does NOT “Love” everyone as many believe….
Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
An often overlooked reason for Jesus to come to Earth (Born of the Virgin Mary) was…. For the INSPIRED writers if the Scriptures to have something to write ABOUT!
Saul… who persecuted and KILLED Christians was Transformed into the Apostle Paul by God himself….. He had NO part in his “salvation”
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Everyone Relax…. God has this in control….. He is using Trump as he planned, before he MADE the World.
I have to believe that He will use Me (and YOU) for HIS purpose(s) when the time is right.
After all is said and done, I hope to meet Many of YOU in Heaven someday 🙂

thinkthinkthink

You could say that again. 😉
My perspective and life experience is similar in some ways.
Love for God. Drawn to explore to edges of things. Feeling safe in His care.

rayzorbak

Man…. I used way to many words! 🙂

thinkthinkthink

No. It was perfect. A window into the library you draw from and that helps frame how to take other comments from you.

rayzorbak

My comments are pretty easy to discern…
1. GOD
2. Family and Friends
3. Country
4. Music and/or Comedy.

Valerie Curren

“You could say that again. 😉”
S/He kind of did… 🙂

Coldeadhands

There’s a land that is fairer than day,
And by faith we can see it afar;
For the Father waits over the way
To prepare us a dwelling place there.
Sanford F. Bennett

para59r

Just something to think about, and you may have already done so, but in following Q and the anons you can see a unifying in much of your list there with an aim to understanding power structures from antiquity right up to today. To me that’s an important point to helping to understand Q.

rayzorbak

Bingo Buddy!

thinkthinkthink

I’m pretty much with the evil deceptions abound, proceed with caution party on this.comment image

Harry Lime

And Melania has that “You listen to your father” look.

mollypitcher5

um huh! lol

Coldeadhands

that Is a jarring juxtaposition!

cthulhu

My Bachelor’s in Econ. I wish this were around when I matriculated, because it’s actually got a great deal of truth embedded in it.
If I were to critique a single point (not of the video, but of the underlying economics), it would lie within the fundamental GDP definition — Y = C + I + G + (X − M); GDP is consumer spending + investing spending + government spending + (exports – imports). Here’s the thing, though — true consumer spending benefits consumers, or they wouldn’t spend. Investment spending has to be worthwhile, or investors won’t invest. Exports and imports are pretty obvious. But government spending may not create public benefit — it is compelled by politics. The clearest example would be foreign aid — why should foreign aid to NGOs benefiting Ghana be included in GDP for the US.
This suggests that the fundamental GDP definition should be Y = C + I + (U)G + (X – M), where U is the percentage of government expenditures that actually benefit Americans — and which can be negative.
When you bring Obamacare into the picture, you have to consider coerced consumer expenditures. Under free enterprise, consumers will enter contracts when they perceive benefits equal to the price. Under Obamacare, you are penalized by the state for not entering into contracts that are clearly detrimental to your well-being. This would remake the equation into Y = (F)C + I + (U)G + (X – M). GDP = the part of consumer spending that is freely chosen + Investment + the part of government spending that actually produces benefits to citizens + (eXports – iMports).
People keep cheering increases in Y without considering F and U — the amount of consumption that is compelled and the amount of government that doesn’t improve citizens’ lives.
It is estimated that 80% of healthcare costs are absorbed by administration. That’s a big chunk of F.

thinkthinkthink

Wow.
Just perfect timing for today’s news.
If only anyone was listening…

para59r

Wow indeed. 6.8 million plus views 🙂
Meanwhile it would be John Kenneth Galbraith and Milton Friedman who would continue the argument sitting with Congress once a year to compete for their ear.

Gail Combs

cthulhu,
I could never understand why ANY goverment spending would be included in the GDP as anything BUT negative. It is $$$ drained from the economy and generally wasted according to the Grace Report. WORSE it adds to the DEBT.

“100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt … all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from government.”
-Grace Commission report submitted to President Ronald Reagan – January 15, 1984

para59r

Nickola Tesla 🙂
Are you sure that wasn’t all about a study in bankruptcy?
The guy who wrote the Baron Trump books and the Last President, Ingersol Lockwood. His brother was the foremost expert on Bankruptcy Laws in NYC. Just saying 😉

Harry Lime

Here is a documentary (History Channel?) with that familiar narrator’s voice and a lot of annoying background music but it contains both supporters and skeptics. It does cover some of the technology in simple terms..I’m sure the book dives a lot deeper.
Philip Corso was a respected Colonel in the military…doesn’t really come across as a kook or nut job but that’s not much of a barometer.. I always find it interesting when someone who has more to lose by coming forward does come forward with such information. I don’t think he reaped much if any financial gain from this (?) and he was ridiculed by many for doing so.
They keep repeating that some of the technology took years, sometimes decades of R&D and hard work to develop as a way to discredit what Corso is saying…but whose to say that in reality it took years or decades for them to reverse engineer what they were working on? As much as I may have doubts about such stories, most of the time the skeptics don’t come across as very believable either. Some of Corso’s story does line up nicely with Bob Lazar’s equally astonishing claims.One thing they both have in common is that they both were proven to be there when these things were happening. Interesting stuff.

cthulhu

Let me just put out there a couple of markers so as to assist people in discerning whether I’m snarking or agreeing with something.
I do believe that there is an MKultra (or similar) program of disinformation and “medical practice” that attempts to drive the vulnerable into outright insanity (and immensely harm others). I do believe that the US has been subjected to waves of propaganda by Deep State elements since (at least) the 50s…..although it might easily predate this, being that my personal observations only go back to the 60s. I do believe that science has been politically corrupted since (at least) the A-bomb.
I might be convinced of ancient technology, Nazi technology, or alien technology — but am currently a skeptic.
I consider everything that supports the rise of Fascism or Communism to be BS. And that goes double for “climate science”. Freeman Dyson famously walked into a Climate Conference and asked if there were anything he could say or do that could dissuade the assembled from levelling blame upon human influence…..when the group said, “no”, he excused himself — saying he was “not dressed for church.”

thinkthinkthink

Here’s a new question I’ve recently thought of:
What if the homeless folks are sick/mental due to being abused via MK programs?

thinkthinkthink

Yes, and those so damaged would organically propagate their form of damage onto those who did not get a first generation version of the insanity.

Valerie Curren

Well shuttering so many institutions in the 80s/90s didn’t help many of these people…or society… I would guess that the bulk of “homeless” are drug/substance addicted &/or mentally ill…

thinkthinkthink

Cloward-Pivin (did I spell that right?)
First you make the care in the institutions horrific. (Have read stories of how the good programs were all done away with after the psychiatry as a pharmacy model propagated.)
Then report the horror/abuse in the institutions in order to get people to demand we release all the mentally ill on the street.
Which then would overwhelm the city/state services.