RIG FOR RED! Q IS BACK!

Here you go, peeps!


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https://twitter.com/3Days3Nights/status/1190742277771202560
https://twitter.com/SayWhenLA/status/1190757918712434689

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RIG FOR RED
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Q Post 3574

So we have our orders.

RIG FOR RED

Scott has already found THIS:

scott467
November 3, 2019 at 02:37
Q’s last post today included a link to Wyatt’s twitter post and concluded with RIG FOR RED:

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https://twitter.com/3Days3Nights/status/1190742277771202560📁
https://twitter.com/SayWhenLA/status/1190757918712434689📁
RIG FOR RED
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I didn’t know what ‘Rig for Red’ meant exactly, but I found this:

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What does it mean to Rig For Red and what is is used for?
2/10/2014
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_Rig_For_Red_and_what_is_is_used_for

The term “Rig for Red” is actually an older term, since most submarines today use broadband Blue lighting for night operations. Many spaces on older boats still have Red lighting, though.

“Rig for Red” is normally a command used in the Control Room. It is normally used when the boat is going to be surfacing or coming to Periscope Depth at night. The purpose is to give the lookouts and the officer designated to head to the bridge upon surfacing a chance for their eyes to adjust to darkness, or the OOD the same thing before looking through the Periscope. However, with the change to Blue, often times Red glasses are also used to provide the same effect and then Control is changed when the command is given to surface or come to PD.

During Battle Stations and at night, many spaces are rigged for red in order to simulate night conditions. While submerged underwater during normal operations, the only real reference for the time of day is the meal being served, since most boats operate on an 18 hour rotation and not a 24 hour rotation (6 hours on watch, 12 off). The red/dark conditions are more so people can sleep rather than to simulate night. Underway, the sleeping areas are always dark unless it’s a cleanup day, a drill is going on, or Battle Stations has been sounded.

Though the sleeping areas are still configured for Red lighting, tactical spaces and the Control Room were changed to broadband Blue lighting in the 80’s when it was determined that the color was easier on the eyes under normal working conditions over long periods. I always hated it – a lot harder to catch an undetected nap in the corner than it was when Red was used.
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wheatietoo

The new Q drops are showing up on the Q post sites now.
Qewl!😀
https://qntmpkts.keybase.pub/
https://qmap.pub/

rayzorbak

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rayzorbak

Supposed to be a Knock Knock joke….
Top Pic: Knock Knock
Bottom Pic: after the: Who’s there?

Sylvia Avery

I love this…………………………

ozzytrumpster

This is an important thread. I think significant . If anyone can ferret out the Chinese malware/ spyware in military hardware it’s the Israelis. Also what they’ve been doing with gcc is amazing. As Carlos says Singapore also gets special status because location location location. (Strategic). I’m putting here to get your attention. If this goes to urban warfare we gonna need this stuff
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1189441304859512832.html

wheatietoo

Since he got Q’d…Wyatt has been getting visited by the QArmy.
https://twitter.com/TierzaBishop/status/1190860272472412160?s=20

https://twitter.com/sueschroeder17/status/1190845696422756352?s=20

https://twitter.com/Circadiva1/status/1190859872696295424?s=20

Rodney Short

I need to go take a cold shower…

Mary Morse

Anyone else amazed that Wolfie sent me (us) to the Wyatt twitter account just before Q did, after being absent for 93 days ?!?
Rigged for Red

https://www.moviemistakes.com/film636
Several hidden messages in that film, if you look…

phoenixrising37

YEEAAAYYYYYY! Thanks Wolfie for putting our little gal in the header! Have so missed seeing her.
Q is back…
I got my hour back! How ’bout you?
Ohhh happy day…!

SingularZoe

Hi, PR. Good to see you and glad q is back.

phoenixrising37

Oh Zoe,,, we have missed you! So glad you’re here!

SingularZoe

Thank you, PR. I try to check in here and there and try not to miss these great posts, especially about Q. Good to see you all.

daughnworks247

Zoe!!!!!!!! Waving at you! Glad you are here.

SingularZoe

I never fail to read your posts, Daughn. Love you.

singingsoul1

I am happy Q is back 🙂 Life becomes interesting again.

Sylvia Avery

pR……………………….I squealed when I saw the Q drop girl in the header!!!!!!!
I’m so excited!

phoenixrising37

I know, right! Something about her that makes one light up… and then of course we have waited so long to hear from Q… what a time to be alive!

Sylvia Avery

And now Weeper has checked in with us!!!

phoenixrising37

Prayers answered……………

Sylvia Avery

Yes indeed!

SingularZoe

Hey, Sylvia, hang on to that shovel.

Sylvia Avery

We’re going to need it, I think!

Brave and Free

Excellent, time to dig again into this corruption.
Ran across this on Gab, great time line and explanations on Q and PDJT plus C_A operations. And TMB and Awan bro. Plus Huma and her connections. It’s a little long but if you can stick with it there’s some good information that I’ve hadn’t know before with references.
http://www.heroesmediagroup.com/president-trump-jsoc-qano

Plain Jane

I don’t know how, but is there some way to preserve this EXCELLENT treatise before it gets nuked by DS?

Plain Jane

Oh good deal, thanks Wolfie. I sent the link to anyone I could.

smiley2

appreciate that link, B&F…..very very helpful !
phenomenal stuff, actually…
FTA…comment image

jamcooker

it’s a long piece. I’ve read a bit of it but got side tracked by this link in the piece:
https://coffeeordie.com/shannon-kent/

trumpismine

Well worth the read. TY jamcooker

Plain Jane

What a lady! TY for drawing it to attention JC.

wheatietoo

Jim Watkins speaks like he is talking to an audience of children.
Heheh.

para59r

Hiding the fact that he passes messages.

Deplorable Patriot

Short answer on that one message: the corn is ready for harvesting.
And I said it in my grandmother’s accent, too. The midwestern “cahrn” before I knew what I was saying.
I need another cup of tea.

daughnworks247

Rig for Red
Holy Crap
Here we go.
What a glorious time to be alive.

michaelh

bt qs a larp

thetinfoilhatsociety

Bwahahahah!

itswoot

In the movie, “The Hunt For Red October” the order is given on the submarine Dallas to “rig for red” as it prepares to go into battle against the Red October. After making contact, both submarines rise to periscope depth to communicate.comment image

Aubergine

I found this on Movie Mistakes:
“Factual error: When the USS Dallas submerges to attack the Red October, they rig for battle stations as well as rig for red. On a submarine, rig for red is only for periscope depth operations at night, to allow control room watchstanders eyes to adjust to the darkness topside. No other area on the boat rigs for red. Throughout the movie the lights darken along with battle stations. No naval ship would reduce visibility on purpose in a heightened state. (01:31:00)”
https://www.moviemistakes.com/film636
Is Q telling us the enemy is “in the dark?”

michaelh

In the movie, they state that the sub was named “Red October” for the October Revolution. Russia had not yet adjusted its calendars and so for the rest of the world this occurred in November.

SteveInCO

The change from Julian to Gregorian was made by the Bolshevik government of Russia in 1918. After that they’d celebrate the October “revolution” (it was a putsch) in November, the same time of year (with respect to the seasons) as it actually happened.
We went through similar gyrations in the Colonies in 1752, dropping 11 days out of the middle of September (September 2 was followed by September 14) to get us on the Gregorian calendar. George Washington’s birth certificate (had we had such things back then) would have read February 11, 1731, but on the new calendar it became February 22 of 1732 (we also changed the time at which the year began, formerly on March 25). He celebrated his birthday on February 22 after the changeover, and we continue to do so to this day (to the extent that we bother with “President’s Day” any more and don’t fiddle around with making it fall on Monday).

singingsoul1

Steve thank you for the interesting information.

daughnworks247

???? Wow, we learn all kinds of cool things here.
Thank you, Scott!

daughnworks247

STEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a favorite cousin named, Scott. Steve in CO reminds me of him. Apologies. It’s a compliment, at least from my point of view!

SteveInCO

Scott???

ozzytrumpster

As in beam us up Scotty

scott467

Of course you’re very welcome 😁

Valerie Curren

I mistakenly thought your comment was by Aubergine since this Julian/Gregorian calendar conundrum features in genealogy if one goes far enough back in time. Thanks for the details!

Mary Morse

Can you find and post a clip of the film where the order is given? I looked some, but no luck. Thanks.

itswoot

On the DVD it is in the chapter titled, “Rendezvous” about 3/4 of the way through. I also couldn’t find any clips that included the scene.

Mary Morse

Thanks, and for trying.

patfrederick

ruh ro…prepare for incoming Wolf…someone posted this OT…so you may be getting more posters here–soon as the ad rems OT scrub this reference…LOL…
Allard Otten says:
November 3, 2019 at 1:23 am
Q’s back.
New 8chan incarnation (8kun) has two darknet routes (TOR and Lokinet) with a 3rd coming. Both worked well for me. Clearnet links are slow because of the insane number of hits. Darknet routes will help against any future de-platforming.
Q’s test posts aren’t on Q’s usual drop sites, but you can find the direct link if you look in the right places. Sure looks like Q to me. Same tripcode, too. Still not much happening on 8kun as they are starting to spin up, though.
POTUS mentioned a forum the other day. Could be 8kun is the prototype for a more user-friendly site for the peeps.
Q was down for 93 days. Anons are looking for some payback. Let’s roll.

wheatietoo

Amazing that that is still there…it probably won’t be for much longer.
Heheh.

patfrederick

yeah that’s why i grabbed it…LOL

jamcooker

Just checked…. and yeah, it’s gone! LOL!

scott467

What a bunch of babies, lol!

patfrederick

and whomever liked it…LOL

singingsoul1

patfrederick I was surprised to see the reference to Q from Otten at OT. No one reacted to the post that was eve more telling 🙂

patfrederick

IKR? i’ve been checking back periodically to see if it’s been removed or ostracized…but neither the last time i looked…

singingsoul1

I could not sleep and checked in at OT about 3:30 am and that is when I saw the Q reference post. Two things The guy did not know posting anything about Q gets you banned or he is gutsy in your face 🙂

patfrederick

if he believes in Q, I’d say the second option…lol

scott467

“No one reacted to the post that was eve more telling ”
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Because they’re all appropriately scared by the tyrant banner. 😁

kalbokalbs

Enjoy Wyatt’s posts.

ozzytrumpster

More wyatt

Aubergine

Where’s my scythe?

rayzorbak

I prefer to use my Tractor 🙂

PeteC

Thank the Lord you didn’t lose your tractor in that boating accident where you lost all your guns and ammo!!! The tractor would have sank the boat real quick!

rayzorbak

Yep….. got the tractor after losing the other stuff.

PeteC

So when Beto comes for your guns, you will just run over him with your tractor!

rayzorbak

lol!

pgroup
Mary Morse

It certainly is. We are surrounded by corn on 3 sides, and they will be here any day to harvest. It has already started in other areas of the town.

wheatietoo

Heheh…I used to love Candy Corn as a little kid.
😬😜
I would trade Tootsie Pops for those little packages of Candy Corn.

gil00

I think someone should invent a candy corn hun, like those marshmallow huns. At least theyd get us to buy em again.

gil00

Argh… g u n not hun.

SteveInCO

Was wondering who would make a marshmallow in the shape of Attila.

gil00

Haha!

ozzytrumpster

With red for the nose bleed that killed him.
How embarrassing. A fucking nosebleed after hundreds of battles

Teagan

I have a Japanese friend who teaches English in her home (called cram school in Japan). I’ve sent Halloween stuff for years to her children,,,decorations, candy, costumes, pumpkin sticking, etc. The one thing they love is the candy corn…always requests for that.
Trouble is, it now cost $80-$100 to send a priority box size package and there’s no way I can get anywhere close to $80 of candy corn in it. Thankfully, after about 15 years, she basically has older students preparing for college entrance exams and candy corn is no longer required. 😁. This is the first year I haven’t sent it to Japan.

scott467

“The one thing they love is the candy corn…always requests for that.
Trouble is, it now cost $80-$100 to send a priority box size package and there’s no way I can get anywhere close to $80 of candy corn in it.”
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Why ship it from overseas when you can buy it on Amazon.jp and have it delivered locally for cheap? 🙂
https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=candy+corn&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

scott467

And if Amazon Japan (Amazon.co.jp) is not showing up in English, just scroll down to the very bottom of the page, and there should be a drop-down box you can click on, and select “English” for language.
It doesn’t convert everything to English, but enough to figure out how to place an order 👍

Teagan

I’ve tried that many times,but unless they’ve changed in the past year it doesn’t work. My Japanese friends can order items from Amazon USA to be delivered to me, but I can’t do the same for Amazon Japan. My life would be much easier! The reason I’ve always gotten is the currency exchange difficulties.
Actually, my Japanese friends tell me they cannot even buy the candy corn on Amazon there.
I haven’t checked out your links but will do so…and share them. Thanks.

scott467

Currency exchange should be no issue, they just charge a fee like everything else 😁
Several times a year I order some blu-ray movie from overseas (because it isn’t released in America yet, even though it’s an AMERICAN movie 😡 ).
I usually order from Amazon.uk, but occasionally Amazon.de (Germany), or Amazon.es (Spain), or Italy, etc., whoever has the best price after shipping is factored in.
OFTEN I get to the order page, and it says something to the effect of “We’re sorry, but this seller does not offer shipping to your address”.
So I have to click the back button, empty my cart, go back to the product page, and try another seller. I may have to do this four or five times until I find someone who will ship to the U.S., but usually SOMEBODY will.
So if you are getting declined by the first Amazon seller, try the other sellers who are offering the same product, and hopefully at least ONE of them will work.
But in your case, you are trying to order a product that is already IN Japan’s Amazon warehouse, to have it shipped to a Japan address, so shipping should be a non-issue, so long as the Amazon check-out process KNOWS that you are shipping to an address that is DIFFERENT from your billing address, and shipping to a JAPAN address.
So you would probably have to ADD the destination address to your Amazon account, and then choose the destination address during the checkout process, and it SHOULD work.
Hopefully! 👍
And if you have already tried all of that… you might try contacting Amazon Japan, requesting an English speaking customer service representative, and asking how to complete the transaction.
I hope something works for you!

ozzytrumpster

Good info. I have had things not shipped to Australia. Never though to try different amazons

gil00

Lol. I used to like the pumpkins way back when. Too sweet that stuff is and quality is bleh. Its like the fruitcake of Halloween. Everyone has it but no one eats it.

Deplorable Patriot

No dissing fruitcake until you’ve had my family’s recipe.
There’s usually two issues with fruitcake that people do not like. One is the use of citron as one of the fruits, and the other is lack of brandy for incubating.

Coldeadhands

Think about posting a recipe before the holidays…even a modified one that preserves the propriety of the original 😋

Deplorable Patriot

The exact same recipe was in the 1970 Joy of Cooking, so it’s not a secret.

Coldeadhands

Got it!

gil00

Yeah its the fruitcake bricks i remember my mother making. Just not going there. Its like mincemeat pie too. Not my thing.

SingularZoe

I’m with you, Gil00, but I’ve had some that had more eggs and butter and wasn’t so brick-like, and I liked that better. I think there is a white fruit cake that might be good.

phoenixrising37

My Mom’s sister made a white one for decades… have recipe somewhere !

phoenixrising37

And, just remembered, friend in TX gave me a recipe for fruitcake COOKIES… those are awesome…
again, white …. but, you’ll need a couple of extra hands to help, as the mix is very dense!

gil00

Id be willing to give a good one a taste if it were more cakey than building material.

ozzytrumpster

Enough brandy and it could be grits, wouldn’t matter

scott467

Three issues…
The third issue is that the fruitcake is usually at least 4 or 5 years old by the time you receive it, because people keep re-gifting it to others 😁

Deplorable Patriot

Not mine. If we make it Thanksgiving weekend, and open it on Christmas, it’s gone by New Years.

jamcooker

Oh, the fruitcake pros and cons!!! I like fruitcake. My husband hates fruit cake and so do my children! I have made all sorts of fruitcake, from white fruit cake with a pound cake like base made with dried fruit, not candied, to the traditional dark fruit cake. I think it’s a case of if you like fruit cake you do, but if you don’t you’re never going to like it! The same goes for mincemeat pie which I love, and I usually make mine from scratch too.

Deplorable Patriot

I like candy corn…not that I eat it anymore.

scott467

It’s still good like you remember. I was eating some when I started reading this thread, and everybody started talking about candy corn 😁

scott467

Brach’s Candy Corn.
If you get one of the other brands, it won’t taste like you remember.

Chris

And what do you use to harvest a field of corn ?
A Combine.
Simply an amazing shooting platform during deer season btw..,nothing like a diesel powered steerable treestand, least that’s what I heard .
.I experienced a renewed pang of patriotic pride and spiritual energy watching this US flag clip,

Every time the winds refilled it, was like a breath of fresh air .
WWG1WGA

Mary Morse

When they harvest, two tractor trailers arrive with the combine and the corn is chopped and blown directly into the first tractor trailer. When its full, it drives off. The combine continues filling the second trailer, as another tractor trailer arrives. Pretty amazing and efficient. Usually takes about half an hour for the entire acreage.

Chimpy

Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Epstein didn’t kill himself.

wheatietoo
scott467

Of course, if Q knew it was going to be 93 days before he/they came back online, then 8kun has almost certainly been ready to go for weeks, maybe months!
Q can’t predict the future, it only seems that way because he KNOWS and has CONTROL over certain things. Q must have known 8kun would be ready to go on Nov. 3rd before 8-chan was ever knocked off the Internet.
Which means 8kun could not possibly have been scrambling right up to the last second, i.e., six minutes to go before Q’s ’93 day’ Q-proof would have been invalidated.

wheatietoo

But the “93 days” thing is just a theory that some people have come up with.
It remains to be seen whether it is really a Q-proof.

scott467

“But the “93 days” thing is just a theory that some people have come up with.
It remains to be seen whether it is really a Q-proof.”
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Q confirmed it in Q post 3574, liking to a Twitter post explaining it. 👍

wheatietoo

Oh yeah…that’s true, he did.
Forgot about that.
As far as CodeMonkey still scrambling and working long hours, though…the site apparently keeps crashing because of so many people going there at once.

pgroup

Ah, the sweet pain of huge success!

gil00
gil00

Darn thing. Ok how about another,comment image

thinkthinkthink

Take the “?format=” and replace with a “.”comment image

gil00

Thanks t3!

drillerelite

Finally, Q’s back! I thought the worm was going to turn on the deep state bastards long ago and it’s been an exercise of patience but whoa was I unaware of how big everything was back then. This seems like it’s all about to get real. The devil won’t go down easy though and we’re probably just entering the heat of the battle now.

Sylvia Avery

We all THOUGHT we knew how big the Deep State is and how much corruption there is………turns out we only thought we knew. I thought it was huge, but watching this play out has astonished even me. We’re going to be busy cleaning up the mess for a long, long time. I am SO ready!!!!

ForGodandCountry

Holy cow, a Sylvia sighting!
Feels like I just saw a snow leopard.

Sylvia Avery

I keep my eyes on you all! I miss you all so much. Good to see you FG&C! 🤗

ForGodandCountry

God bless you, Syl. You are sorely missed. Hope all is well with you!

Sylvia Avery

I’m doing just fine, thanks! I lurk here although not as much as I’d like! Exciting news that Q is back!

SingularZoe

We miss you, too, Sylvia, but we’re very glad when you can visit.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Zoe! I’m always happy when I come here and check in on you guys, too! I love this place so much, and all of you. ❤❤❤

jamcooker

I think we’re just “skirmishing” now. I think the heat is coming….. maybe when Flynn’s case is done, and some more stuff comes out officially or legally, stuff WE know about, but hasn’t been presented in a court of law or released yet by the gov’t.

Deplorable Patriot

I wouldn’t expect too much before the next inauguration. Gotta be sure VSG is in office for the second term before the major axes start to fall.

phoenixrising37

Yes, but on the other hand, we have to fight/push back against this Coup
I’m beginning to think after Judge Sullivan drops the gov’t’s case against Gen Flynn on the 7th, and starts prosecution against the SC bunch of criminals for what they have done to not only Flynn but others, the IG report will drop and the so-called ‘coup’ (Shifty and Pelosi) will go poof!
Perhaps more a hope than an actuality, but for right now, I’m staying with it!

SingularZoe

PR, we will hope and pray this happens. I certainly like your notions of what could happen.

ozzytrumpster

Powel and Flynn timed with Horowitz
Shits getting real

scott467

“I wouldn’t expect too much before the next inauguration. Gotta be sure VSG is in office for the second term before the major axes start to fall.”
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I don’t know about that… momentum has been building steadily… DJT can’t just go silent now for the next year!
I’m hoping that indictments and arrests start soon, and roll out steadily, MSM freaking out all the way, every day in every way, while DJT has fresh ‘current events’ material to talk about at every one of his 100+ rallies between now and election night 😁

ozzytrumpster

Nope. There’s going to be a steadily increasing drip to gushing of dirt and indictments.
2020 is going to scorched earth.

ForGodandCountry

“Rig for red”
Everybody is close, but not quite exact.
What do submarines do??
They HUNT.
When do they hunt?
Historically speaking (WWII) the best time for them was at night when they could get very close to their prey without being seen. This was because surface attacks were considered best for a number of reasons. (See: movie “Das Boot”, the #1 sub movie of all time) For example, back in the day (before wire guided systems were developed) torpedoes were not as reliable as they are today and sometimes had a nasty habit of circling back on the shooter. Long shots of 3 or more miles were big gambles, because one could BOTH miss AND be detected. But I digress.
Here is what else everyone is missing.
“Rig for red” isn’t just for submarines.
When do Special Ops (ie. Navy SEALs, Delta, etc) normally go hunting a target (ex: Bagdooshie)??
At night.
All US Special Forces share a common motto…..”We own the night.”comment image

GA/FL

Yep – going dark, total (as much as possible) silence to avoid detection is critical prior to launching attack.

ozzytrumpster

Hmm. And California has been blacked out

phoenixrising37
kea
phoenixrising37

Beautiful… thanks Kea…………….

Cuppa Covfefe

Bolero always makes me think of this unforgettable moment in Ice Skating (Dancing):

kea

Ahhh yes!!!!

kalbokalbs

Beautiful. Love the way it all comes together.

phoenixrising37

Bruno has a THREAD, and there’s another THREAD w/in this one from 3Days/ that you may or may not have already seen… just click a tweet………….. get ready to roll!
https://twitter.com/Bruno062418/status/1190978800072441856

trumpismine

EXACTLY 93 days? Flabbergasted!
WWG1WGA

Plain Jane

Well, well. I’m gone for a while and I find that Q reads WQTH and Plain Jane AND listens to all those who agreed when I said “I miss Q,” sometime in the last week or so. 🙂
So happy he posted. Now I have to find the time to learn what Q said. Golly, I wish there was a way to convert all the info here into audio.
Love you Wolfie and Q people…all of you.

ozzytrumpster

Wish you’d spoken up earlier

scott467

😂

Plain Jane

Lol

kea

Wait Q is back!?!?!!?!?!??!!??!? *Hands Mom puppy dog so I can read Q*

PeteC

Not a lot of “happy camper” comments OT! Bunches of “glass half empty” stuff.
If there is one thing the “Q” phenomenon provides, that is hope—which sure the hell beats despair!
Barr and Durham better get this right—too many of us know too much. If they fail to deliver judicial righteousness, well, be ready. The People will be forced to save the Republic (and you would have to think Barr and Company are aware of this unless they are living in total isolation, which they are not!).
Barr’s Notre Dame speech reveals his full understanding of the state of the country—he just needs the conviction and fortitude to do what’s right and proper, without a primary concern about saving institutions!
I’m sure we are all praying for Barr and Durham to do what’s proper against an entrenched and corrupt deep state.

michaelh

If you look hard enough, you can always find some way that everything is going to fail.
Every silver lining has its cloud.

Katie

Does anyone else wonder if this 93 day blackout from Q was part of the Plan to see how well we’d continue without him/them?
Sort of like watching to see if we’d sink or swim. And if enough anons and patriots held on, moved forward, and grew in their understanding, then Q+ and his team would know they had enough support to lead the way to a fundamental restoration of our country.
It really is the 2nd revolution and civil war coming to life. The Civilutionary War.

duchess01
ozzytrumpster
ozzytrumpster

Tawidi is poison passing himself as a moderate
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
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For @IrredeemableOne
You ask, “Is this Imam a friend?
“I thought I had read he might be something other than an Imam of peace.”
He’s an Iranian agent.
1+
Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The Iranian mullahs are brilliant at placing their agents.
Here’s a piece about Tawhidi that explains what he’s up to.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-23/imam-tawhidi-the-problem-with-the-medias-favourite-muslim/8643726
The problem with Imam Tawhidi, the media’s favourite Muslim
http://www.abc.net.au
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
“Imam Tawhidi says he is a moderate Muslim reformer — but his very recent past shows he has connections to a religious leader who is anything but moderate.
“After Imam Tawhidi dropped out of university, he fell in with a fringe seminary school in Iran, run by a controversial religious family known as the Shirazis.”
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
“Imam Tawhidi studied under its senior cleric, the Grand Ayatollah Sayid Sadiq Husseini Shirazi, and later went to work in one of the Shirazi-run TV stations in Iraq.”
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The goal here is to antagonize MUSLIMS.
Tawhidi is demanding reform in a way that is guaranteed to ANGER Muslims.
That’s the brilliance of the Iranian mullahs.
But the Saudis are even more brilliant.
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The Saudis carried out a Stealth Reformation, claiming the whole time that they weren’t.
Twahidi demands that Muslims stand on the public stage and trash their own religion.
I never tell people how to think. If you dislike Islam, Muslims will survive.
But the Saudis and al-Azhar University carried out a Stealth Reformation that took about three years.
And they denied it the whole time.
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
Let me show you how brilliant the Saudis are.
The Council of Senior Scholars issued a decree that women could write fatwas.
This was their reasoning:
“As women enter the workforce, we need female religious authorities to guard against foreign influences.”
Women entering the workforce is itself the mother of all foreign influences.
The Saudis SKIPPED OVER that part and accepted it as a given.
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
In every single case, the Saudis found a solution that nobody had ever envisioned.
Here’s what Mohammed bin Salman said about Islam:
“The Koran requires Muslims to spread the word of Islam. In today’s highly technological world, every man and woman has head the word. Therefore, Islam has been spread.”
In other words, Muslims can stand down. Their job is over.
The Saudis are using the vagueness of the Koran to their advantage.
1+
Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The first Saudi journalists went to Israel.
One walked alone among the Palestinians, and they assaulted him.
That video went out into the entire Arab world.
It made MILLIONS of Muslims see what the Israelis have been talking about.

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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
Recently the head of Al-Azhar University–the Sunni Islam Vatican–called for a meeting in Saudi Arabia of leaders from non-Abrahamic religions.
Hinduism, Buddhism, and so on.
Officially Islam doesn’t recognize the validity of these religions.
Therefore the meetings was the signal that the Stealth Reformation continues.
Tawhidi criticizes Islam in order to make Muslims angry and unite against non-Muslims.
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Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The Saudis say, “Our religion has no problems!”
And then they institute another massive reform.
Try and think like a Muslim. Would you like it if you were told to grovel to non-Muslims and beg for forgiveness?
I don’t care what the Saudis SAY; I care only about what they DO.
Click “CC” for subtitles.

1+
Jul 27
Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
@IrredeemableOne
The Iranian mullahs are the most savage leaders in human history. They’ll murder anyone to stay in power.
That includes Shia Muslims. In the Battle of Mosul, the Shia militias were smuggling weapons, ammunition, and medical supplies for the Islamic State.
Another way the mullahs stay in power is by sponsoring agents who criticized Islam.
Tawhidi is one of them.
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Thomas Wictor
@ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
@IrredeemableOne
I don’t choose sides between Sunni and Shia.
All peacemakers are my friends.
When the mullahs are gone, we’ll see the end of conflict in the Middle East.
So be strong.
All will be well.
END

scott467

“Imam Tawhidi says he is a moderate Muslim reformer — but his very recent past shows he has connections to a religious leader who is anything but moderate.”
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This is the ‘big lie’.
There is NOTHING to ‘reform’ about islam, it is working EXACTLY as designed.
Claiming to ‘reform’ islam is like claiming to ‘reform’ Christianity.
Who’s going to do it, and on WHOSE Authority?
And WHO is going to PRESUME to know better what God wants than GOD?
Did God get it wrong the first time?
It’s Stoooopid.
Yes, people will say “Well what about the Reformation” in Christianity?
A) it was a terrible word choice; the correct word is ‘restore’, as in, going back to first principles, going back to the pattern and example given in Scripture
B) they were trying to get BACK to the Word of God, NOT even further away from it
But islam has not become apostate or heretical, islam has not deviated from their unholy texts, they are RIGHT on the MONEY, following the WORD and the EXAMPLE of Mohamad, with every act of violence.
So if anyone seeks to ‘reform’ islam, they are effectively saying that Mohamad was WRONG and they know better than Allah how Allah wants things done.
Good luck with that.
And even if someone succeeded, all they would prove is that islam must have been a fake religion to start with, because they succeeded in changing what Allah said, so either Mohamad was a liar or Allah isn’t real and doesn’t exist.
In other words, if anyone succeeded in ‘reforming’ islam, it would invalidate islam, proving it a false religion.
Talk of ‘reform’ is either subterfuge by islamists, or pie in the sky hippy talk by people who don’t understand what they’re talking about.

ozzytrumpster

Exactly. But people keep hoping for a kayumba version. Yeah tell that to the 600+ million dead at the hands or the religion of pieces

ozzytrumpster

mbs Is aware of that but the most important thing in the above info is the chief hooha os islam RECOGNISING other, even non Abrahamic religions. Ie THERE IS MORE THAN ONE PATH TO GOD. This is seismic imo. This is gamechanging. Yes the idiot brainwashed inbredretards won’t pay any attention but there will be no Saudi $and support for Wahhabism going forward, so barring some outliers(there are always a few) we only have to kill off the current crop.
Hopefully.
And without the big money support they are going to find life harder. As is going to feel the pinch of us oil dominance. And then there’s us financial sanctions. China’s in a world of hurt and looking at the abyss. They also hate muslims. Russia is very anti muslim.going very k selected ie
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7635885/Schools-Russia-told-teach-pupils-assemble-AK-47.html

scott467

“mbs Is aware of that but the most important thing in the above info is the chief hooha os islam RECOGNISING other, even non Abrahamic religions.”
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I believe it can be shown conclusively that islam is not even an Abrahamic religion.
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“Ie THERE IS MORE THAN ONE PATH TO GOD. This is seismic imo. This is gamechanging.”
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He may be saying that, but it isn’t true. There are not multiple paths to God, unless God said there are multiple paths — which He did not.
So any paths which God did not describe or approve must — logically and by definition — be of men, and not of God.
And God is not bound or obligated to accept the paths men choose for themselves to get to Him.
In other words, it is God Who offers salvation.
We can accept it, on His terms, or not.
If we reject His terms and make up our own terms, why would God be obligated to accept our terms?
He has all of the leverage, and we have… none 😁

ozzytrumpster

So you good with the different sects of Christianity?

scott467

“So you good with the different sects of Christianity?”
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Am I?
I get along with everybody. 🙂
But obviously it’s not what I think about different sects that matters, it’s what God thinks that matters, isn’t it?
I don’t set the terms or conditions of acceptance… I can’t offer salvation to anyone, I’m in the same boat as everybody else.
All I can do is point to what God’s Word says. Like pointing out the language of a contract. I didn’t write the contract, and I don’t have any Authority to change it, or break it — it says what it says. All I can do is show what it says.
If someone advocates for some belief or practice (or path to salvation, etc.) that is not found in God’s Word — or contrary to God’s Word — then is their disagreement with me… or with God?
If someone is determined to get in an argument with God, the last thing I want to do is stand between them 😁
But if I care about someone — and as a Christian, I should care about all people — I ought to point to what God’s Word says if I see something that appears to not be according to God’s Word, especially concerning those who believe and have faith.
And I hope they would do the same for me. I am not always right, and my understanding of God’s Word is not perfect. But where apparent disagreements arise, I am confident that with an open Bible, men and women who seek the truth with an honest heart can arrive at agreement together with God’s Word in most cases.
If we are trying to be on God’s side, rather than trying to prove God is on our side.
That was a great question, by the way.
I always like those kinds of questions, because they get straight to the heart of the matter 👍

ozzytrumpster

Hmm…. people been arguing about the old and new testaments for a looooong time. They have had many translations, perhaps not always exact.
I think the minutiae is less important than the basic 10. Iow be a good person. You don’t have to be religious to do that

scott467

“Hmm…. people been arguing about the old and new testaments for a looooong time. They have had many translations, perhaps not always exact.
I think the minutiae is less important than the basic 10. Iow be a good person. You don’t have to be religious to do that”
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For getting along with our neighbors, our fellow man, indeed, if mankind generally observed the Ten Commandments — or even just the greatest two — the world would be a much better place 🙂
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“Master, which is the great commandment in the law? [37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 22:36-40, KJV)
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But getting along well with our fellow man is not the same thing as salvation.
Fortunately, God’s plan of salvation is not difficult or complicated. Many people in the Scriptures became Christians the same day (the same hour even, cf. Acts 16:33) they heard the gospel, and the same thing happens today, all over the world.
It is hoped that one will grow in knowledge and understanding over time, but anyone who is old enough to understand can obey the gospel and be saved.
There are more Scriptures supporting these steps, the cited passages are just representative:
Hear the gospel (Romans 10:17, John 6:44-45)
Believe (Hebrews 11:6, John 8:24, Acts 16:31)
Repent (Luke 13:3, Acts 2:38, Acts 17:30)
Confess Christ (Matt 10:32-33, Romans 10:9-10)
Be baptized (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38-41, Acts 8:12-13, Acts 8:35-38, Acts 10:47-48)
Remain faithful (1 Cor 9:27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev 2:10)
And pray for forgiveness when we sin, because being imperfect, we all commit sin, though we struggle not to, and hopefully continually make improvement in that regard. 👍

ozzytrumpster

I’m not big on forgiveness. For others maybe but not myself. I’ll just keep trying to be a good person

scott467

“I’m not big on forgiveness. For others maybe but not myself.”
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Forgiving ourselves is the hardest for some people. For many people, I think.
Be kind to yourself, Ozzy 🙂
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“I’ll just keep trying to be a good person”
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Me too.
If you ever have questions on this subject that I might be able to answer, please don’t hesitate to ask, and I will do my best 👍

michaelh

Agree, not “reformable”.
But “liberalizable”.
Not saying this is good or bad, not making a judgement on it. Just saying it is possible.
An example is Liberal Judaism in the U.S.
My concern of course is our experience in Europe and the United States is that a liberalizing of Christianity resulted in massive inroads for cultural radicals and marxists. So much so that you can’t find a liberal church that isn’t deep in either leftism or social justice hogwash. “Liberal” in Christianity has become inseparable from leftist politics, and leftist politics from “liberal”.

scott467

“Agree, not “reformable”.
But “liberalizable”.
Not saying this is good or bad, not making a judgement on it. Just saying it is possible.
An example is Liberal Judaism in the U.S.”
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This is the kind of discussion I very much enjoy.
Whether applying ‘liberalizable’ to islam, Judaism OR Christianity, is it not ultimately a synonym for ‘apostatizable’?
The underlying principle is that the text is God’s Word — not man’s. I’m not sure how islam deals with that, because IIRC, the Koran and associated texts weren’t written down for hundreds of years after Mohamad died, which would mean the whole thing is just bogus.
But for sake of argument, assume that islamic people believe the Koran (and associated texts) are the Word of Allah, by Allah’s messenger, Mohamad.
The Jews (those who follow the OT) believe the OT is the inspired Word of God, and Christians believe the OT and the NT are the inspired Word of God.
So for sake of argument, all three believe their foundational text is the inspired Word of God.
The problem with ‘reform’ or ‘liberalizing’ or making ANY change — even the tiniest change — to what the text actually says, is very simple.
If the text is inspired by God (which in the NT, ‘inspired’ means ‘God-breathed’, i.e., men did not write their own thoughts or interpretations of visions or anything like that, they were writing as God moved them to write, 2 Tim 3:16, 1 Cor 2:12-13, John 14:26, 1 Cor 2:4-5, Gal 1:11-12, 1 Thess 2:13, 1 Cor 1:17, 2 Peter 1:20-21, et al), if the underlying original Hebrew and Koine Greek text of the Bible (OT and NT) is literally God’s Word…
Then WHO on this earth has the Authority to change what God has said?
Think about just the presumption of arrogance it would require, for a man to think he could do something better than God did it, much less correct God or say that God was wrong and then take it upon himself to change what God said… and then, to teach the new doctrine as if it was still God’s Word?
Whether you are islamic, Jewish OR Christian, is that not literally heresy, blasphemy, apostasy, and even worse, the nullification of the very God one claims to believe in and serve?

scott467

“My concern of course is our experience in Europe and the United States is that a liberalizing of Christianity resulted in massive inroads for cultural radicals and marxists.”
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I would suggest that no ‘liberalizing’ of Christianity actually occurred at all, or even could occur, because what man (or group of men) on this earth has power or Authority to change a single jot or tittle of God’s Word?
And it is God and His Word — not man — which defines Christianity, is it not?
For every ‘liberalization’ of a church that self-identifies as Christian, the same question must always (instinctively) be asked.
Suppose the ‘liberalization’ in question is accepting homosexual conduct — or any other thing which everybody knows is wrong, because if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be controversial in the first place.
The question is always the same: “By whose Authority do you do this thing, or accept this thing?
Whatever answer they come up with, if it is not found in God’s Word (and it never is…), then that’s the giant red flag with an air raid siren signalling that they have jumped the tracks.
Because what man (or group of men) has the Authority to change what God has said, or to add to God’s Word, or to subtract anything from God’s Word?

scott467

“So much so that you can’t find a liberal church that isn’t deep in either leftism or social justice hogwash. “Liberal” in Christianity has become inseparable from leftist politics, and leftist politics from “liberal”.”
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Which is inevitable, later if not sooner, from the moment the camel first gets his nose under the tent. The slippery slope. Whatever term one prefers.
This is why error, i.e., beliefs or practices for which there is no Authority in God’s Word, no matter how seemingly insignificant, must be diligently guarded against. Because once it is allowed to start, it will only increase over time.
It has always been so.
And once an error has been accepted by a congregation (or church), the next generation doesn’t even know it was controversial at the time the error was introduced. And so that generation builds on the faulty foundation of the original error.
Or the original error is then used as justification for further error. After all, if our parents’ generation allowed “fill in the blank”, who are we to forbid “fill in the blank”?
And so that original error continually grows and mutates as it ripples across time.
But it began with a single error, almost certainly something quite small, or it would never have been accepted by the congregation without a fight in the first place.
It always starts small.

ozzytrumpster

Ok.
Islam. The Koran is literally gods word. Every bit. And Mohammed is the perfect man and his life is perfect and anything he did or said is perfect.
Problem. He became a psyopathic, paranoid, narcissistic evil monster.
When he only had about 150 followers his religion was all about peace and love and kindness to others. He picked the best bits from Christianity and Judaism and called this homogenisation Islam. He felt his message was so important that he wanted to be seen as a prophet-by the Jews. They told him to fuck off,chased him and his faithful few out of Medina and he then went to Mecca. There he had his epiphany. His religion changed to one of conquest by the sword,apostasy punishable by death and all who had rejected him enemies. In the early year he preached love and respect for Christians and Jews as they were “people of the book“. These are the verses that are quoted when you are told that Islam is a religion of peace.
Post epiphany it became all about micromanaging every facet of muslims lives whilst the wildest licence and depravity was , not just approved, but expected towards non Muslims.winning formula. No one gets out alive. However when removed from Islamic societies many Muslims can and do leave. The first job of Muslims colonising new territory is Dhaka. Returning strays to the flock.
I read about one of the worlds truely great mathematicians. He analysed the bible and found repeated patterns that rigidified the book making it stay on message. He shocked the world by declaring himself Christian. I will try to de arch for the article

scott467

“Ok.
Islam. The Koran is literally gods word. Every bit. And Mohammed is the perfect man and his life is perfect and anything he did or said is perfect.
Problem. He became a psyopathic, paranoid, narcissistic evil monster.
When he only had about 150 followers his religion was all about peace and love and kindness to others. He picked the best bits from Christianity and Judaism and called this homogenisation Islam. ”
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The problem, of course, is that God, being perfect, does not contradict Himself.
The New Testament was completed 600 odd years before Mohamad.
The Old Testament was completed long before that.
Anything (and everything) Mohamad claimed was of God in the Koran, which contradicted the OT or NT, was a direct claim that God was contradicting Himself.
In essence, he was claiming that God was not perfect, that God was just some galactic hack who was throwing stuff at the wall to see what might stick.
It’s tantamount to claiming God tried Judaism for a while, dabbled in some Christianity, but neither one worked out like He hoped, so He decided to change it up and try something new with Mohamad.
It doesn’t work.
If God is Who He claims to be, and if Muslims believe God is Who He claims to be, there is no credible way to reconcile that God somehow got it wrong with the Old and New Testament, and then finally got His act together and His head screwed on straight when He came up with islam.
This is one of the many problems with islam, it can’t even get past ‘go’.
The Old Testament foreshadows the New Testament in hundreds of different ways. The Old Testament prophesies the New Testament (see Jeremiah 31:31, and compare Hebrews 8:8). There is no connective tissue between the Bible (OT and NT) and the Koran, no prophecy, nothing.
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“He felt his message was so important that he wanted to be seen as a prophet-by the Jews.”
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Then he was doing it all wrong.
For a prophet, it’s not his message that matters but God’s message, and the vanity of wanting to be seen as a prophet by others would essentially negate the possibility that he could even be a prophet.
God chose those who were suitable to His purposes, the prophets didn’t choose themselves.
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“They told him to fuck off,chased him and his faithful few out of Medina and he then went to Mecca. There he had his epiphany. His religion changed to one of conquest by the sword,apostasy punishable by death and all who had rejected him enemies.”
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There is the recurring problem, you have hit on it several different ways, this time ‘his religion’. Not God’s way, but “his” way, i.e., Mohamad’s religion.
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“In the early year he preached love and respect for Christians and Jews as they were “people of the book“. These are the verses that are quoted when you are told that Islam is a religion of peace.”
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But if he preached love and respect for Christians and Jews because they were ‘people of the book’, then whatever ‘book’ they were ‘people of’ must have been worthy of his respect.
Why did Mohamad then reject the ‘book’ whose people he claimed to respect, and write his own book instead?
If Mohamad believed in God, and Mohamad believed that the God of Abraham was the same as the God in his Koran, and Mohamad loved and respected God’s people, then why did Mohamad reject those books and start killing God’s people, and write his own book, claiming it was authored by the same God who wrote the OT and NT?
It’s hopeless gibberish.
There’s no way to make any sense out of it, which is one reason why the historic response to any rational challenge to it has always been violence.
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“Post epiphany it became all about micromanaging every facet of muslims lives whilst the wildest licence and depravity was , not just approved, but expected towards non Muslims.winning formula.”
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Again, God doesn’t need a formula, or trial and error.
Not even over the course of millennia, much less over the course of one short human life.
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“No one gets out alive. However when removed from Islamic societies many Muslims can and do leave.”
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Of course. Remove the element of compulsion, the threat of violence, and many will leave. This is yet another difference between God’s way and Mohamad’s way. Christianity doesn’t work by compulsion, it is by free will choice.
Whereas Mohamad will kill you if you don’t convert, and he will kill you if you try to leave after you converted. Doesn’t sound like Mohamad had much confidence in his own message, so it needed a sharp back-up plan.
God doesn’t need to force or deceive people into following Him.
But a cult leader does.
They always do.
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“The first job of Muslims colonising new territory is Dhaka. Returning strays to the flock.”
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Control.
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“I read about one of the worlds truely great mathematicians. He analysed the bible and found repeated patterns that rigidified the book making it stay on message. He shocked the world by declaring himself Christian. I will try to de arch for the article”
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I have heard about that recently somewhere, maybe here or at Neon Revolt. I saw the link you found, and I’ll check it out. Thanks! 👍

ozzytrumpster

Dhawa. Not Dhaka. All you say is true but he believeD that the old and New Testaments were corrupted by men. Also That all the Jewish and Christians were actually muslims who’d been hijacked. This is why you get Islamic versions of Jewish/christian names ie ibrahim(Abraham), Noah.
Personally I think the Jews who rejected him saw which way he was headed with his growing hubris and megalomania. Plus you can’t just become Jewish at the drop of a hat ,you have to study and accept their texts ,not saw you are Jewish and they’ve got it all wrong.

scott467

“Dhawa. Not Dhaka. All you say is true but he believeD that the old and New Testaments were corrupted by men.”
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Okay, that is a position he can take. But unless he can back it up, unless he can present a coherent case that withstands at least casual scrutiny, then it’s just a naked assertion.
No different than if he believes pigs can fly.
Anybody can say “I think the Old and New Testaments were corrupted by men”. Anybody can say anything.
But you have to be able to back it up, or it’s just so much fake news.
Really, really old fake news, at that.
Not to mention that such a point is conveniently necessary to even provide a place for his own corrupted religion to exist… because if he did NOT assert some kind of corruption of the OT & NT, then why would the world have any need for his new deal?
But the bigger problem with Mohamad’s assertion is this, and it’s the same problem anyone has when attempting to discredit the Scriptures, particularly if they claim to believe in God:
Is God not capable of ensuring His Word is not corrupted?
God created the universe and everything in it, and keeps all of it going, to this day, right up to this very instant. He is all-powerful, all-knowing, but he can’t protect His own Word or prevent men from corrupting it?
How can Mohamad claim to believe in an all-powerful God, and at the same time claim that God just wasn’t powerful enough to protect and ensure the survival of His own Word?
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“Also That all the Jewish and Christians were actually muslims who’d been hijacked.”
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Except Mohamad wasn’t born until some 500 to 600 years after Christianity began, and there was no such thing as islam until Mohamad cooked it up.
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“This is why you get Islamic versions of Jewish/christian names ie ibrahim(Abraham), Noah.”
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I don’t understand the point.
islam didn’t exist when Abraham and Noah were alive. Judaism didn’t even exist yet when Abraham and Noah were alive.
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“Personally I think the Jews who rejected him saw which way he was headed with his growing hubris and megalomania.”
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I don’t understand what Mohamad had to do with the Jews. By the time Mohamad was alive (circa 600AD), Christianity had already existed for 600 years.
The Jews had already rejected Jesus back in the 1st century (not all of course, MANY Jews became Christians, and still do to this day, but the Jewish religion chose to continue on as if the Jesus never existed).
If the Jewish religion rejected Jesus, why on earth would Mohamad expect the Jews to do anything besides reject him too, 600 years later?
And Mohamad was no Jesus…
If they rejected Jesus, what would make Mohamad think they wouldn’t reject him?
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“Plus you can’t just become Jewish at the drop of a hat ,you have to study and accept their texts ,not saw you are Jewish and they’ve got it all wrong.”
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Was Mohamad trying to convert to Judaism?
I have not heard that before.
If Mohamad claimed he was a Jewish prophet, then he needed to speak some prophesy, and then everyone (including Mohamad) would wait to see if his prophesy came true.
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“And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? [22] When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22)
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And any legitimate prophet of God would know that.
And the Jews at the time of Mohamad knew it, too.

scott467

edit / correction: “He is all-powerful, all-knowing, but he He can’t protect His own Word or prevent men from corrupting it?”

ozzytrumpster

No he was trying to convince the Jews that he was the final, perfect prophet. The earlier ones were not up to his standard. Hardly surprising the Jews told him to fuck off

scott467

“No he was trying to convince the Jews that he was the final, perfect prophet.”
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There is only one way to ‘convince’, and that is to prove it.
The way for a prophet to prove that God is speaking through him is both simple and well known, both to the Jews and to anyone claiming to be a prophet:
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“And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? [22] When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22)
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If Mohamad wasn’t doing that, then he wasn’t really trying to convince anyone.
And if Mohamad had been intellectually honest with himself, the fact that he could NOT do it would have been sufficient proof to everyone (including himself) that he was not a prophet at all.
Not that it would really have a made a difference, because the Jewish religion chose to reject Jesus long before they rejected Mohamad.
And Jesus is the Son of God.
If the leadership of the Jewish religion could harden their hearts and reject the Son of God, then what chance does anyone else have?
More to the point, why would God send anyone else, after they have already killed His prophets, and then killed His Son?
I would like to know Mohamad’s answer to that.
He doesn’t have one…
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Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen
“Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: [34] And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. [35] And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
[36] Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. [37] But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. [38] But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. [39] And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
[40] When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? [41] They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
[42] Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? [43] Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. [44] And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
[45] And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. [46] But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.” (Matthew 21:33-46, KJV)
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scott467

I really enjoy these kinds of discussions, because the answers are there, both logically and Scripturally.
If Mohamad was trying to convince anyone that he was God’s final, perfect prophet, the parable of the Wicked Husbandmen exposes Mohamad’s entire premise as a fraud.
God sent prophet after prophet to His chosen people.
But they would not hear them.
Finally, God sent His only begotten Son.
And Him they slew.
There is no one else coming.
Which destroys Mohomad’s entire claim of reason for being.
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“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! [38] Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. [39] For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.” (Matthew 23:37-39, KJV)
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ozzytrumpster

Ffs Scott. You cannot talk sense to a Muslim.
I pointed out to a Muslim once that if all things created by allah are perfect why the problem with homosexuality?
There are severe contradictions in their creed it’s crap and most only take the first part seriously, not the ravings of the megalomaniac,paranoid misogynistic, thief/conquerer.
This is not something they can defend, except by killing critics. And they do.
No one ,NO ONE can make that sows ear into a silk purse

scott467

“There are severe contradictions in their creed it’s crap and most only take the first part seriously, not the ravings of the megalomaniac,paranoid misogynistic, thief/conquerer. This is not something they can defend, except by killing critics.”
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Which is why that is one area that should receive concentrated sunlight.
Either it can be defended, or it cannot.
As you observed, it cannot.
But Western media makes sure that they never have to defend it, thereby becoming enablers of a belief system that commits atrocities and crimes against humanity every day, all over the world.
If there was a counterpoint to the MSM, it could focus on the MSM’s enabling conduct to the point of pain (destruction of credibility), in the same way that DJT focuses on their dishonesty to the point of pain (destruction of credibility).
The MSM would either then be forced to focus attention on the indefensible violence of islam (and therefore indefensible islam itself), or become irrelevant to the discussion and bypassed.
With or without the MSM, a counterpoint to the MSM could then focus a white-hot spotlight on the indefensibility of islam.
Until it breaks.
It cannot remain a viable belief system, if people (believers and hoodwinked non-believers) begin to realize that it is an indefensible fraud, in the same way that the MSM is unable to remain credible due to the onslaught of light and truth that DJT keeps throwing at it.
I realize we’re not ‘there’ yet, just pointing out as I have many times in the past, that islam is completely defeatable, without ever needing to fire a shot.
It’s like a three-legged stool, and one of those three ‘legs’ is Western Civilization pretending not to know certain things.
If Western Civilization ever decides to stop playing this game which affords islam ‘protected class’ status, i.e., protection from examination and accountability, islam suddenly becomes a two-legged stool.
Ultimately, the solution to the problem of islam is no different than defeating any other lie that hides in the dark.
Drag it out into the light of day and demand that it give an account of itself.
It can’t.

thinkthinkthink

Wolf, I think this might be another Stanford professor plant we need to look into.

thinkthinkthink

In cities this community has it’s own networks, drop points, ebb and flow throughout the week. Using river bottoms and out of the way places to collect stolen goods for barter or pawning.

thinkthinkthink

It’s on purpose.

scott467

If you want more of some deviant, immoral or self-destructive behavior, the surest way is to stop prosecuting it (or legalize it).
The signal will be received loud and clear by those predisposed to the behavior, and make it easier to entice others once authorities deem the conduct ‘acceptable’ behavior.

thinkthinkthink

Wolf this is almost creepy weird, but in some way totally expected. Last night I dreamed about the homeless and was somehow made aware that someone was inserting the “wild fire starter” programming into some of their number. A difficult to trace weaponization of specific individuals where the person may not even be aware the programming has been inserted. It might just be an excessive carelessness instead of a pathological fire bug mentality.

scott467

“To me, the sudden interest of the left in pushing out the homeless in huge ways has something to do with the White Hats reining in illegals and MS-13. I think the homeless are an ALTERNATIVE to take their place. But HOW? How could people with damaged minds like that be a threat?”
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What is the immediate and constant effect of MS13 and illegals running wild?
Is it not the psychological creation of fear, uncertainty, lack of confidence in rule of law, IOW a steady disruption of the fabric of society?
If the source of that societal disruption is intentional (Newsom and California Cabal), and the tools of their disruption (MS13 and illegals) are being systematically removed by the Feds, couldn’t a dramatic increase in problems involving the homeless be used as a substitute disruption, to maintain the psychological warfare / societal disruption against the people of California?
Relentless pressure is part of the Alinsky model:
Rules for Radicals:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
8. “Keep the pressure on.”
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.”
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michaelh

Wolf I am not tracking with you but I hope you explain it more soon 😉

ozzytrumpster

I think that’s the science dude from Jurassic Park

ozzytrumpster

Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
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Omar and Bernie.

People for Bernie on Twitter
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For the first time, I don’t feel like laughing at the comments.
They’re too pathetic.
These people are severely mentally ill.
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Omar apparently thinks that Bernie will bring all the Native Americans back to life.
When you point out to these people that there was no genocide, they seal shut their ears.
You know who committed PERFECT genocide?
Native Americans.
They EXTERMINATED entire peoples. The Anasazi and the Toltecs are just two.
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The Anasazi and the Toltecs were the most advanced pre-Colombian cultures.
Both were peaceful.
Native Americans wiped them out to the last man, woman, and child, replacing them with the most sadistic cultures in human history.
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The Plains Indians and the Aztecs spent every waking moment torturing others to death.
Omar herself comes from one of the worst cultures in human history.
Somalis simply don’t value any form of life. Like the Aztecs, the Somalis flay people alive.
Omar comes from a Stone Age culture. Her endorsement is the kiss of death for Bernie.
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The Scottish poet Robert Burns wrote in a dialect that’s hard to understand.
His most famous piece is “To a Louse. On A Lady’s Bonnet, At Church (1786).
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An’ foolish notion:
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,
An’ ev’n devotion!
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O would some power the gift give us
To see ourselves as others see us!
It would from many a blunder free us
And foolish notion:
What errors in dress and gait would leave us,
And even devotion!
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@ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
Imagine if Omar and Bernie saw themselves as we see them…
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ozzytrumpster

In case you were wondering about the dudes in charge I when the us embassy was overtaken 40 yrs ago
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1191049339721924616.html

ozzytrumpster

Gonna make it easy to justify intel reforms
https://mobile.twitter.com/SayWhenLA/status/1191051084917354497

ozzytrumpster

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ozzytrumpster

This person votes. So much explainedcomment image

scott467

“”This is the land by the Colorado, Kansas border from a plane. Pretty cool. I have no idea how/why it looks like this.”
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Well come on, man… can’t you even hazard a guess?
Are you really coming up snake-eyes here?
You got nothing?
Not even conjecture?

ozzytrumpster

This is an urban idiot

michaelh

Probably the white is deposits of salt or sand from an ancient sea bed carried along by the winds for thousands of years.
There’s no other reasonable explanation for the mysterious white powder.

scott467

I mean, don’t just give up.
You have to guess something, come up with some kind of hypothesis, before you can begin figuring your way out of it and end up a step or two closer to the truth.
Maybe this section of the country was once part of an enormous jigsaw puzzle, and giants scrambled up all the pieces?
Even that’s better than “I have no idea why” 😁

wheatietoo

Amazingly ignorant, isn’t he.

ozzytrumpster

Gobsmackingly so

GA/FL

Looks like a heavy frost to me….and the fields plowed that morning are brown.