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God is in Control . . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . . Keep Looking Up
Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
Be of One Mind . . .
In 1 Peter 3:8, Peter exhorts believers to “be of one mind” (NKJV). This unity is important because all Christians are on the same team, especially those in a local body. A team falls apart and loses its aim when it is not of one mind. When we treat believers as Christ has called us to, we can be of one mind in what we believe and in our actions to glorify God.
To be of one mind is to be like-minded or united in intent and purpose. In His High Priestly Prayer, Jesus prayed, “I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity” (John 17:22–23). The purpose of Christian unity is that “the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me” (verses 21, 23).
Romans 15:5–6 gives another reason why being of one mind is important: “May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to live in such harmony with one another, in accord with Christ Jesus, that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (ESV). All believers are called to be of one mind so they can glorify God in unison and accurately reflect Jesus to the world and extend His offer of salvation (2 Corinthians 5:20).
When we are saved, we are united with Christ and become part of the family of God (1 John 3:1). When a family is of one mind, they can love each other well, and others take notice. Believers are also described as the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12–27; Ephesians 5:30). Different parts of the body cannot work in rebellion to the other parts. The body works as a synergistic whole. We need to live out the truth that we are one body and one family in Christ.
The way we treat each other impacts our unity. Peter continues the exhortation to be of one mind by calling believers to have “compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous; not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing” (1 Peter 3:8–9). What we believe affects how we live. If we believe we are united in Christ, then we will be of one mind.
Selfish actions and haughty thoughts cause disunity. Paul counters such sins in Philippians 2:1–3: “Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.” Our union to Christ reminds us that we are all sinners saved by grace through faith in the finished work of Christ. Salvation leads us to being “completely humble and gentle” and being “patient, bearing with one another in love” (Ephesians 4:2). Being of one mind involves treating each other with love and selflessness.
Being of one mind does not mean pursuing unity simply for the sake of unity. We are united in Christ, and teachings that deny Christ must be excluded. Thus, we are of one mind in the essentials of the faith. We are to separate from those who teach false doctrine (Matthew 7:15; Romans 16:17; Revelation 2:14–15), and we are not to unite with people who claim to be Christians yet who live in continued, unrepentant sin (Matthew 18:15–17; 1 Corinthians 5:1–2). Being of one mind also does not mean that all differences between churches and denominations need to be abolished. We can hold distinct biblical convictions while still upholding unity and loving our other brothers and sisters in Christ who hold different convictions. Ultimately, it is Christ who unites us, and His Word and Spirit must convict us of where we are not representing Him well.
It takes work for a team to be of one mind, and each person who is part of it must work with his or her teammates to accomplish the team’s aim. Believers are called to be one body and one family in Christ. Our unity in Christ will transform how we treat each other and help us in our mission to glorify God and reflect Him to the world around us. https://www.gotquestions.org/of-one-mind.html
What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
January 6 Tapes Reminder
After the first release, we were supposed to get more, every week.
As far as I know it hasn’t happened.
Speaker Johnson, please follow through!
A Caution
Just remember…we might replace the RINO candidates. (Or we might not. The record is mixed even though there is more MAGA than there used to be.) But that will make no difference in the long run if the party officials, basically the Rhonna McDaniels (or however that’s spelled–I suspect it’s RINO), don’t get replaced.
State party chairs, vice chairs, secretaries and so on, and the same at county levels, have huge influence on who ultimately gets nominated, and if these party wheelhorses are RINOs, they will work tirelessly to put their own pukey people on the ballot. In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our “MAGA” candidates are in fact, RINO plants, encouraged to run by the RINO party leadership when they realized that Lyn Cheney (and her ilk) were hopelessly compromised as effective candidates. The best way for them to deal with the opposition, of course, is to run it themselves.
Running good candidates is only HALF of the battle!
SPECIAL SECTION: Message For Our “Friends” In The Middle Kingdom
I normally save this for near the end, but…basically…up your shit-kicking barbarian asses. Yes, barbarian! It took a bunch of sailors in Western Asia to invent a real alphabet instead of badly drawn cartoons to write with. So much for your “civilization.”
Yeah, the WORLD noticed you had to borrow the Latin alphabet to make Pinyin. Like with every other idea you had to steal from us “Foreign Devils” since you rammed your heads up your asses five centuries ago, you sure managed to bastardize it badly in the process.
Have you stopped eating bats yet? Are you shit-kickers still sleeping with farm animals?
Or maybe even just had the slightest inkling of treating lives as something you don’t just casually dispose of?
中国是个混蛋 !!! Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!! China is asshoe !!!
And here’s my response to barbarian “asshoes” like you:
OK, with that rant out of my system…
Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit
…we can move on to the next one.
Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.
Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.
Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!
It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.
In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.
Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.
Justice Must Be Done.
The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.
Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.
Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.
Lawyer Appeasement Section
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(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)
Spot Prices
All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend). (Note: most media quotes are for the bid…the price paid by the market makers, not the ask, which is what they will sell at. I figure the ask is more relevant to people like us who wish we could afford to buy these things. In the case of gold the difference is usually about a dollar, for the PGMs the spread is much wider.)
Gold still bouncing around. But the platinum group metals are all undeniably in decline. Palladium has almost dropped below platinum. Actually, by one measure it already has. I quote the “Ask” prices because that’s what your purchase price is (somewhat) related to, but most quote “Bid” (how much they will pay a trader for the paper, in the commodities market). Platinum has a ten dollar spread, which means the Bid is $10 less than the ask, at $874. But palladium’s spread is typically $40, so bid on that is $847. If you can see past the dyslexia hazard, that means most people today are quoting palladium at less than platinum, for the first time in a LONG time. (I suppose I should have sold when it was at $3,000?)
When I was new to this, gold was roughly $300, platinum was roughly $400, and palladium was $80 or maybe $120 though it jumped to $180 when “cold fusion” was announced. So to my gut the market was upside down with palladium the most expensive and platinum the cheapest. At least palladium is back where it belongs, now if the sale on platinum would just effing end…
Obligatory PSAs and Reminders
China is Lower than Whale Shit
Remember Hong Kong!!!
中国是个混蛋 !!! Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!! China is asshoe !!!
China is in the White House
Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.
Joe Biden is Asshoe
China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.
But of course the much more important thing to realize:
Joe Biden Didn’t Win
乔*拜登没赢 !!! Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!! Joe Biden didn’t win !!!
Step 1Build in the shaker tin—first the simple syrup, then the lime, Chartreuse, and rum. Taste. Miller High Life is deceptively sweet, so before the cocktail gets strained into your glass, it needs to be on the dry side.
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Even as someone who’s constantly observing political events, I’m finding it increasingly difficult to track the flurry of shit being thrown at Trump. All the names, cases and hearings are running together.
It’s like trying to herd cats on acid during a thunderstorm.
Did they just say they won’t prosecute Joe Biden because he’s an Elderly Man with a poor memory?
Special Counsel Robert Hur says Joe Biden DID mishandle the classified documents after his Vice presidency, and he risked national… pic.twitter.com/1RABWkXm8K
So Joe Biden is old & cognitively impaired (8 yrs ago) according to special prosecutor Hur, that’s why he won’t be charged for leaving classified documents all over the place.
However, he’s still 100% ok to lead the free world & hold the nuclear football!
Now they have an off-ramp to justify ditching Biden, and now they can select whoever they want to be the next placeholder for Obama’s shadow government.
Or maybe the DeepState is maneuvering Biden out. He gets through another month (?) of primaries, he wins enough delegates to lock in the nomination, he can step aside. The Party Machine then picks.
Don’t really trust Patrick Byrne at all, but he has a point.
For a while, I've been wondering about industrial sabotage when it comes to Boeing. They seem to be the only maker with these issues. No Airbus problems? https://t.co/ugbhQykXSY
— LaughLoveLive, identifies as Deplorable Patriot (@LaughLoveLive1) February 8, 2024
Will the Future Prove the Past? “The 25th Amendment is of zero risk to me, but will come back to haunt Joe Biden and the Biden administration,” Trump said. “As the expression goes, be careful of what you wish for.” On Jan 12, 2021 pic.twitter.com/nj2Th2OKiB
Correct. Hur commiserating, poor, "kindly" Mr. Biden is wrong. A jury would never have seen Biden because a competency hearing would have been demanded by defense counsel. Joe is incompetent to stand trial, but not incompetent to be charged. That is a significant difference. https://t.co/S58cQtR30j
The only thing more cringe than watching Biden spout off about speaking to dead people, is watching the MSM mockingbirds play defense for him spouting off about speaking to dead people.
The reason this post is cutting it close to the wire of Midnight EST is because I was on the phone with a friend who was complaining to me about these very things.
So why has all of DC participated in the charade of this man – who exhibited dementia long before 2020. How is it that you're not standing strong & telling the country about the COUP the Dems pulled off in 2020? 81 million votes for a guy who couldn't campaign? https://t.co/rVapBOAXWQ
I’m private messaging you from a friends phone! With her permission of course. I work in a NHS hospital. It’s evident we are seeing patients presenting with turbo cancers, strokes, Guillian Barre ! They…
— Dr David Cartland BMedSci MBChB MRCGP (2014) (@CartlandDavid) February 8, 2024
Florida Man tries to abduct 5 year old kid and immediately finds out
The mere fact that Biden’s handlers allowed him to do a press conference at 7:45 PM today after months of keeping him from the Press is proof that they are setting him up to fail. The rug pull is happening before your eyes. The decision has been made…he is done. Only Question… https://t.co/imKcBke0L5
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9There shall be no strange god among you; you shall not bow down to a foreign god. 10I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt. Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it. 11“But my people did not listen to my voice; Israel would have none of me. 12So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts, to follow their own counsels. 13O that my people would listen to me, that Israel would walk in my ways! 14I would soon subdue their enemies, and turn my hand against their foes.
Tucker’s reach is the biggest on Earth. His interview with Trump did 267M views on X alone.
Whatever Tucker is doing in Russia, the Deep State are terrified of it. They know one of their darkest secrets is about to get massive exposure.… pic.twitter.com/JtxIt3FiEW
Tucker’s reach is the biggest on Earth. His interview with Trump did 267M views on X alone.
Whatever Tucker is doing in Russia, the Deep State are terrified of it. They know one of their darkest secrets is about to get massive exposure.
They did the same exact thing when Trump and Flynn got close to Putin. They threw an absolute fit and cried “treason”. Why? Because they are afraid of what Putin would share with Trump.
Putin is anti-Globalist. Putin knows about their criminality in Ukraine. Putin knows where the bodies are buried. Putin has repeatedly called out the West’s perversion and widespread pedophilia. He calls out the Western oligarchs’ plot to create biological weapons and manufacture biological crises to enrich themselves and steal elections via mail-in voting.
Putin is as red-pilled as they come. They can’t have any of these truths on the airwaves, let alone on the biggest platform on the planet. If the public learn Putin is not the bad guy, the Deep State’s entire narrative crumbles.
Tune in tomorrow.
I love the lefty media talking smack about the @TuckerCarlson Putin interview. The more they talk about it, the more people will watch it. And the more people who watch it will realize how wrong we’ve been about the global alliance that is now formed against the United States due…
– First is they wanna establish an authority to develop plans to redevelop areas affected by disaster. The people of Lahaina are adamantly opposed to this because it brings people that are not from Lahaina into Lahaina, in positions to make decisions for how they move forward.
– Second is the bill establishes an income tax credit to incentivize the voluntary relinquishment of property located in areas affected by disaster. That one speaks for itself.
– Third and most alarming is this bill directs the attorney general to commence imminent domain proceedings.
Senator John Kennedy (Rep-LA) says Biden is committing “Energy Suicide” by buying energy from countries that hate us. Love his quote at the end. “I realize you can’t fix stupid, but you can vote it out” pic.twitter.com/Cq3WPdQlvm
Reading through the new Ukraine bill, I find it so interesting: we apparently have unlimited sums of cash for Ukraine’s petty bureaucrats and banks and borders – we’re funding it all – but not a penny for our own citizens poisoned by our own government’s nuclear radiation
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24And from there he arose and went away to the region of Tyre and Sidon. And he entered a house, and would not have any one know it; yet he could not be hid. 25But immediately a woman, whose little daughter was possessed by an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell down at his feet. 26Now the woman was a Greek, a Syrophoeni’cian by birth. And she begged him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 27And he said to her, “Let the children first be fed, for it is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 28But she answered him, “Yes, Lord; yet even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs.” 29And he said to her, “For this saying you may go your way; the demon has left your daughter.” 30And she went home, and found the child lying in bed, and the demon gone.
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Barack Obama doesn't have Presidential immunity. Bill Clinton doesn't have Presidential immunity. George Bush doesn't have Presidential immunity. Joe Biden doesn't have Presidential immunity.
1. Strip Trump of immunity, meaning in federal courts, former Presidents don’t have it
2. Jack Smith’s appointment is annulled by SCOTUS since he wasn’t a federal officer when Garland erroneously made him a SC
3. Trump is re-elected. None of the cases against him had any real…
— Brian Cates – Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) February 6, 2024
Not a single American journalist has interviewed the leader of a nation waging a war that has taken hundreds of thousands of lives. America's propaganda cabal has conducted literally hundreds of pep rallies for the other leader, however.
After reading through whiny Tweets all day, it seems that Tucker’s request is the only one with western media accepted. The others claim they have been asking for years.
1. This used to be normal for journalists. Mike Wallace interviewed Noriega and Khomeini, and Barbara Walters interviewed Gadaffi and Castro. They've interviewed terrorists, dictators, and serial killers. In the grand scheme of… https://t.co/HpY4KRn2xH
1. This used to be normal for journalists. Mike Wallace interviewed Noriega and Khomeini, and Barbara Walters interviewed Gadaffi and Castro. They’ve interviewed terrorists, dictators, and serial killers. In the grand scheme of things they make headlines and are sensational, but rarely have lasting impact.
2. Putin has already, repeatedly, said why he invaded Ukraine. What he says here will be interesting only in the context of how he wishes to spin the war and Russia’s current position in it to the West. Which may prove insightful or it may not, we shall see.
3. This is not the uncontrolled environment Carlson insinuates that it is. Putin has no qualms about imprisoning or killing journalists, or anyone else who draws his ire by openly and effectively dissenting from his actions. This interview will have had conditional guardrails put up by Putin before he agreed to it. Some things will not be asked, or will only be asked in certain ways. What is and isn’t asked and how, will be interesting.
4. I’ll be watching it. If you do, keep in mind the points above and then add this to it. Putin is a KGB officer turned revanchist dictator who has initiated a war of conquest that hasn’t gone as he had hoped. Understand the man you’re listening to when he speaks, and filter what he says through the understanding.
Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world.
The Ronna & the RNC leadership aided and abetted the 2020 election theft from Trump. Then they **fundraised** off of contesting the stolen election, then laughed all the way to the bank.
— Brian Cates – Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) February 7, 2024
If you want to know how deep is the deep state, this is a great example. There are weaponized elements throughout every nook and cranny of our USG. They all need to be rooted out. @SenVancePress@SpeakerJohnson pay attention https://t.co/AFSWGjxioe
(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)
And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:
Per the Boss:
Congratulations to John Williams on his record 26th Emmy Award.
Trust me, his work is the real deal musically speaking.
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14And he called the people to him again, and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: 15there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him.” 17And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. 18And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, 19since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20And he said, “What comes out of a man is what defiles a man. 21For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, 22coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man.”
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We are getting ready to experience a level of evil that will be hard to comprehend. Stay strong. Be prepared.
It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.
In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.
Things are so strange, so surreal, so nihilistic in contemporary America that the chaos can only be deliberate. Chance, incompetence, and accident could not alone explain the series of disasters.
Ya think, VDH? Jeez some people are just so blind.
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WOW Americans Have No Idea How Bad Things Really Are
Denver Police At Airport Off The Record “The media will not tell you this. — We’ve arrested, the Denver Police in Denver has arrested over 50 Al Qaeda members in the last 2 months”
I’ve been loathe to say much about this anti-Flynn nonsense but here goes. If you believe any of this you’ve been drinking too much fluoride or something. Comey admitted to sending people to question Flynn when no lawyers were around, effectively starting a chain of events.… https://t.co/PhyzHNk7Nw
— LaughLoveLive, identifies as Deplorable Patriot (@LaughLoveLive1) February 3, 2024
Something to remember, always.
Per the boss’s instruction:
I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.
Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.
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31What then shall we say to this? If God is for us, who is against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, will he not also give us all things with him? 33Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies; 34who is to condemn? Is it Christ Jesus, who died, yes, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who indeed intercedes for us? 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36As it is written, “For thy sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Be afraid neither of the world, nor of the future, nor of your weakness. The Lord has allowed you to live in this moment of history so that, by your faith, his name will continue to resound throughout the world. — Benedict XVI
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
>>148156518 Amen brother. Q
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
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Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week Year:
espace réservé
noun
French for placeholder
French for reserved area
French for restricted area
Wolf’s preparation for a year of taking care of things
As I will explain below, I’m going to need placeholders for many weeks this year. The first placeholder post (February 5, 2024) will be copied to the other weeks, and modified whenever time allows.
The whole “placeholder” endeavor just sounds so much less offensive in French!
MUSIC!
One of my favorite hymns! A new version…..
THE STUFF
The low-down…..
I already had a long list of things I absolutely must do this year – which include some significant trips, and big medical projects which I put off from last year.
Yes, THE WOOF needs some upkeep to his fine if somewhat ancient mechanism!
And then the medical stuff got compounded by some bad, stupid, Biden-era corruption, which I would love to elaborate upon, but can’t.
The bottom line is that I’m now spending all my time trying to correct the cascading problems of a system error that should have never happened.
And all this takes TIME.
To make sure I have a post up every Monday, it’s going to have to be placeholders.
Or, as I was saying, espaces réservés. Which sounds so much more dignified.
So what can you all do?
If somebody wants to take over the Monday daily, that’s great. Let me know. It’s not absolutely necessary, because the espaces réservés work quite nicely.
But that’s not the most important thing. If I can ask, the occasional prayer for my health would be wonderful. Nothing big – there are many people on this site who need your prayers far more than me. Pray for THEM regularly. But still, prayer is good – prayer is strong – and prayer is effective. An occasional prayer for me to “fix up solid” would be greatly appreciated.
Best and fastest way to get me back online for the election.
Just sayin’!
So thank you for your assistance in this matter. And remember…….
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God is in Control . . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . . Keep Looking Up
Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
Evil is Good . . . Good is Evil
In Isaiah 5:8–30, the prophet pronounces “woes” or judgments on Judah for their wicked behavior. Judah had produced the “bad fruit” of unrighteousness, as illustrated in the song of the vineyard (verses 4–7). Their wickedness even led them to proclaim sinful things as good, which is why Isaiah exclaims, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter” (verse 20). Light and darkness are opposites, which adds to the gravity of the men of Judah calling evil “good.”
A major problem in Judah during Isaiah’s time was widespread drunkenness. People would wake up early in the morning to drink alcohol and continue long into the night (Isaiah 5:11). Instead of respecting “the deeds of the Lord,” they reveled in their sin and drunkenness (verses 11–12). They did not see their sin as wickedness; rather, they called their evil “good.”
A world in rebellion against God will have a skewed perspective and embrace a topsy-turvy morality. There are many people today who still call evil “good” and good “evil,” as they promote behaviors that the Bible specifically calls sinful. The celebration of homosexuality and the defense of abortion on demand are usually accompanied by a mockery of those who value life and promote traditional marriage. Evil is being called “good,” and good is slandered as “evil.”
Apart from God, our value system will always become jumbled. We will begin to confuse sweetness and bitterness, light and darkness, and good and evil. We will label biblical morality as “intolerant” and “oppressive.” We will take offense at the truth that Jesus is the only way to salvation (John 14:6). “Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil” (John 3:20).
Calling good “evil” and evil “good” is a sure sign of spiritual wickedness at work: “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God” (2 Corinthians 4:4). Paul warns that the intensity of the spiritual battle will increase: “There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people” (2 Timothy 3:1–5).
Cutting through the confusion over right and wrong and enlightening spiritually darkened minds is the Bible: “I gain understanding from your precepts. . . . Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path” (Psalm 119:104–105). In their fallen condition, humans cannot accurately determine what is right and wrong. Only God can give definitive answers on good and evil. The Bible is “God-breathed,” the only certain source in providing guidance to mankind (2 Timothy 3:16). https://www.gotquestions.org/call-evil-good-and-good-evil.html
And here we are . . . right in the middle of those paragraphs above . . . and it will get worse. A world in rebellion against God . . . skewed perspective . . . topsy-turvy morality . . . all of that!
So . . . just what are the odds that a secret alliance exists between PTrump, Putin and Xi, or whoever, that will massively rout out and bring to justice the powerful and ultra rich horde of evildoers that are driving this country and the world rapidly into perdition?
Well, it really doesn’t matter if such a secret alliance exists or not. What matters is if in God’s plan we are locked into an ever downward road to the Tribulation. Or maybe, just maybe, there will be a point of inflection in our near future when some righteousness returns and God gives mankind yet another undeserved chance to see the Light and seek His Face.
Remember. Always remember – In their hearts human beings plan their lives, but the Lord decides where their steps will take them. The wicked will be served with justice and the faithful will see their reward.
You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.
At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
January 6 Tapes?
Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.
For all your high talk about your Christian moral background…you’re looking less and less like you have any kind of moral background.
If You are a Patriot and Don’t Loathe RINOs…
Let’s talk about RINOs, and why they are the lowest form of life in politics.
Many patriots have been involved with politics, often at the grassroots, for decades. We’ve fought, and fought, and fought and won the occasional illusory small victory.
Yet we can’t seem to win the war, even when we have BIG electoral wins.
I am reminded of something. The original Star Trek had an episode titled Day of the Dove. It was one of the better episodes from the third season, but any fan of the original series will tell you that’s a very low bar. Still, it seems to get some respect; at a time when there were about 700 episodes of Star Trek in its various incarnations out there, it was voted 99th best out of the top 100.
In sum, the plot is that an alien entity has arranged for 39 Enterprise crew, and 39 Klingons, to fight each other endlessly with swords and other muscle-powered weapons. The entity lives off of hostile emotions, you see and it wants a captive food source. (The other 400 or so Enterprise crew are trapped below decks and unable to help.) Each side has its emotions played and amplified by the alien entity; one Enterprise junior officer has false memories implanted of a brother who was killed by Klingons. The brother didn’t even exist.
Even people killed in a sword fight miraculously heal so they can go do it again.
The second best line of the episode is when Kang, the Klingon captain, notes that though they have won quite a number of small victories including capturing Engineering, can’t seem to actually finally defeat the Enterprise crew. He growls, “What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*”
Indeed. He may have been the bad guy, but his situation should sound familiar.
We are a majority in this country. We have a powerful political party in our corner. There is endless wrangling.
And yet,
What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?
In our case, that power is the RINOs in our midst. They specialize in caving when on the verge of victory. Think of Obamacare’s repeal failing…by one Republican vote. Think of the way we can never seem to get spending under control (and now our entire tax revenue goes to pay interest on the debt; anything the government actually does now is with borrowed money).
We have a party…that refuses to do what we want it to do, and that refusal is institutionalized. If you’ve been involved with GOP politics, but haven’t seen this, it’s because you refuse to see it. Or because you are part of the problem yourself. (If so, kindly gargle some red fuming nitric acid to clear the taste of shit out of your mouth, and let those not part of the problem alone so they can read this.)
We fight to elect people, who then take a dive when in office. But it’s not just the politicians in office, it’s the people behind the scenes, the leaders of the national, state and county branches of the party. Their job is to ensure that real patriots never get onto the general election ballot. They’re allowed a few failures…who can then become token conservatives who will somehow never manage to win (Jordan), or can be compromised outright (Loren Boebert).
That way it doesn’t actually matter who has a congressional majority. I remember my excitement when the GOP took the Senate in 1980. But all that did was empower a bunch of “moderate” puddles of dog vomit like…well for whatever reason forty years later the most memorable name is Pete Domenici. And a couple of dozen other “moderates” who simply had no interest in doing what grassroots people in their party–those same grassroots people who had worked so hard to elect them–wanted them to do.
Oh, they’ll put up a semblance of a fight…but never win. And they love it when we fight the Dems instead of fighting them. Just like that alien entity, whose motto surely was “Let’s you and him fight. It’ll be delicious!”
If you think about it, your entire political involvement has come to nothing because of these walking malignant tumors.
That should make you good and mad.
The twenty five who blocked Jordan, and the hundred people who took that opportunity to stab Jordan in the back in the secret ballot should make you good and mad.
I’ll close this with another example of RINO backstabbing, an infuriating one close to home.
In my county, the GOP chair is not a RINO. She got elected when the grassroots had had enough of the RINOs. Unfortunately the state organization is full of RINOs, and the ousted county RINOs have been trying to form a new “Republican Party” and get the state GOP to recognize them as the affiliate. I’m honestly amazed it hasn’t happened yet.
In other words those shitstains won’t just leave when they get booted out; they’ll try to destroy what they left behind. It’s an indication that they know we know how important that behind-the-scenes party power is.
So they must be destroyed. That’s the only way they’ll ever stop.
We cannot win until the leeches “on our side” get destroyed.
What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*
We know it. What is going to be done about it?
*NOTE: The original line was actually “What power is it that supports our battle yet starves our victory.” I had mis-remembered it as feeds. When I checked it, it sure enough was “supports” and that’s what I originally quoted. On further reflection, though, I realized my memory was actually an improvement over the reality, because feeds is a perfect contrast with starves. I changed it partway through the day this originally posted, but now (since this is a re-run) it gets rendered this way from the start.
If one must do things wrong, one should do them wrong…right.
RINOs an Endangered Species? If Only!
According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.
Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.
I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.
But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.
The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.
Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.
I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.
This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?
In Defense of Ranked Choice Voting
One of the biggest obstacles to direly-needed change is RINOs, and one of the weapons in their arsenal is the “Wasted Vote” argument.
Periodically a third party has arisen, trying to hold RINOs to account by putting pressure on them from outside of the party, since doing so from the inside has historically done very little good. But, even if you find a third party candidate who perfectly reflects your views, you’re likely to vote for the RINO anyway. Why? Because if you don’t, the Democrat might win, and that would be even worse. So if you vote for that third party (that few will vote for), you’re throwing your vote away and increasing the likelihood of the Democrat winning. (It’s half as much a gain for the Democrat, as actually voting for the Democrat would be. Not as much, but half as much. Because although you denied the R your vote, you did not flip your vote to the Democrat.)
The Republican Party Establishment knows you don’t love them. But they know you hate the Democrats worse, and they use that to continue to herd you into supporting them. With gritted teeth you cast your vote, but your vote counts the same whether you cast it enthusiastically. And the other alternative, pissing on the voting apparatus to express your actual feelings, is probably a felony.
But what if you could vote for that third party without increasing the chances of the Dem walking away with the prize?
This is what ranked choice voting, or instant runoff voting, can do provided it is properly implemented. (And this includes the votes, and only genuine votes, being counted honestly, of course. However, I’m going to compare it to what we have today, and pretend that is honestly done too. RCV can’t work if it’s not honestly administered, just like our current system isn’t working because it isn’t honestly administered.)
The idea behind RCV is to vote by expressing your order of preference. You could vote for the Patriot Party, then for the RINO Party as your second choice (and ignore the Democrat, the Green, the Overt Socialist Schmuckmonkey Party, etc).
What does this do? It nullifies the wasted vote argument. Your vote will be counted for the Patriot party, first, then instead of it being “wasted” when the Patriot Party loses, it ends up going to the RINO. Actually, it’s just barely possible that the Patriot Party would actually beat the RINO, if people weren’t all individually afraid to vote for it.
It’s just like the famous “Prisoner’s Dilemma” where your fear of other peoples’ actions prevents you from doing the optimal thing–and vice-versa. As long as Job Lowe is afraid to vote Patriot because he’s afraid you’ll vote RINO, you’ll have to vote RINO because you fear that Job Lowe will, because he fears you will.
So on the whole I like RCV. It gives you a no-risk way to vote against the RINO scum, and in favor of someone who deserves your vote.
The problem is, as done here in the US, it comes packaged with a “jungle primary.” A bunch of candidates get to put their name out there, and the top four (or so) candidates get onto the “main” ballot. This gives party establishments their way around the threat of a good third party bumping them off. Because they know that few people bother with primaries, and third parties don’t have the resources to run in a primary…so they throw two or three establishment hacks into the primary and they will probably beat the third party. The result is the RINOs end up with two of the four slots in the general election, and the Dems get the other two. Now there’s suddenly no third party candidate on the ballot at all.
If we were to combine RCV with the present system where each party could nominate exactly one candidate to appear on the November ballot, or at the very least, ensure minor parties could get onto the ballot with at least one candidate regardless of the primary, we would be getting somewhere, but the establishment is smarter than we like to give them credit for. They will support the jungle primary + RCV “solution” rather than the more appropriate one-candidate-per-party + RCV solution.
It’s not RCV that is the problem, it’s the primary structure grafted onto it.
Justice
It says “Justice” on the picture.
And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.
But what is it?
Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.
Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):
Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.
Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.
I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.
The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)
Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 or 2026 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.
This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.
Lawyer Appeasement Section
OK now for the fine print.
This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines, here, with an addendum on 20191110.
We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights 2. No running with scissors. 3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. 4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns. 5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded. 5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty. 6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy. 7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. 8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
Platinum and palladium continue their slow slide. Gold bounces around in the 2000-2060 or so range. Although up for the week, it was down on Friday.)
The Solar System: An Overview
My infamous Hugh Janus article from five weeks ago is, I hope, going to be the first in a series about our own astronomical back yard, the Solar System.
I wrote about tidal forces last week in large part because the concept comes up again and again talking about different places in our back yard. Tides are more than just a way to lift all boats.
But first an overview and a bit of history.
As far back as we have written records…and likely much further back than that…it was noticed that the night sky rarely changed. Sure, it would show you different stars at different times of the year, but then the same time next year you’d get the same stars all over again.
But there were some exceptions. The Moon of course is blatantly obvious. A bit less obvious is the Sun, but it was realized early on that the reason the night sky cycles over the course of the year is that the Sun appears to be moving across it; daytime of course represents times when the Sun is above the horizon and blots out the stars quite thoroughly. You can, by pulling an all nighter, see most of the night time sky cycling across, with just a narrow fringe of it only up when the sun is up. So you can make a mental model of a “celestial sphere” surrounding us at some great distance, with the Sun and Moon moving around on it. (It’s still handy to think of it this way in certain circumstances, even though we know there’s no hard surface out there, and we know that we are moving, not the Sun and Moon.) The ancients regarded the stars on the celestial sphere as nailed in place, they were (and sometimes still are) called the fixed stars. (They do move but too slowly to notice without very painstaking measurements. You’ll never notice with your eyeballs.)
The Sun and Moon both move right to left…west to east…against the celestial sphere. You have to note the position of the Moon against the stars several nights in a row to see this; the usual intuition is to think the Moon moves east to west because that’s the direction it travels every night, but in reality it’s the celestial sphere (appearing to) move in that direction; the Moon moves west to east relative to the celestial sphere, but not nearly as fast as the celestial sphere appears to move in the other direction, it’s as if the Moon is being dragged along.
Some of the brightest “stars,” though, also moved. The very brightest “star”, in fact, moves, it’s sometimes “ahead” of the Sun and sometimes “behind” it on the celestial sphere, but never strays too far away from it. When it’s ahead of the Sun, it’s an “evening star” visible in the West after sunset, when it’s behind, it’s a “morning star” visible in the East before sunrise. In fact, it wasn’t until historical times that people in Mesopotamia finally realized that the morning and evening stars were the same object.
This is of course Venus I am talking about.
Essentially, Venus will start climbing in the evening sky from night to night (seen at the same time after sunset, reach “maximum elongation” then drop like a rock, dropping rapidly down in the sky until it’s simply too close to the Sun at sunset to be seen. Then it shows up in the morning sky, rapidly climbing one day to the next, reaching “maximum elongation”, then slowly dropping again until it is too close to the Sun to be seen in the glare of twilight just before the Sun rises.
There’s another one of these wandering stars, fainter and sticking closer to the Sun, that’s Mercury.
And finally there are three more, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, which are not restricted as to how far away they are from the Sun, they simply outrun it and lap it in a timespan of over a year. They do sometimes make a loop-de-loop in the sky, going the wrong way (“retrograde”) for a while, but that’s typically when they are on the opposite side of the sky from the Sun.
So these seven objects, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, wandered through the night sky, but nothing else up there did other than the occasional comet or shooting star. They were called wanderers, or, planets (yes, back then the Sun and Moon were classified as planets).
And there things sat. Almost everyone believed all of these objects went around the Earth and that even the celestial sphere rotated around the Earth in just under 24 hours. For philosopical reasons, people thought the planets were carried on concentric spheres all nested within the celestial sphere.
We finally came to our modern understanding of these bodies and how they move during the 15-1600s, between Galileo, Kepler, and Copernicus it was figured out that the Moon did indeed orbit the Earth, but that everything else orbited the Sun. And that included us. Earth is actually a planet. The Sun got promoted to being a star, the Moon got demoted to being a satellite. Planets orbited the Sun, moons orbited planets…and yes we knew about other moons, four for Jupiter, and one big one for Saturn, plus smaller ones you needed a better telescope for.
Mercury and Venus orbit in paths closer to the Sun than Earth’s path, that’s why they never get too far away from the Sun. The other three (Mars, Jupiter and Saturn) all were in orbits outside of our orbit, so they could travel completely around the sky.
The planets’ orbits around the Sun were all ellipses, all of them oriented in almost exactly the same plane. Earth, of course was among these, so our point of view is almost directly in the plane of all the planets’ orbits, So what we see is the planets sticking pretty close the the path the Sun appears to take across the celestial sphere, which is called the zodiac.
Planets had another distinction from stars. Stars invariably looked like points of light of zero width, even in the most powerful of telescopes. Planets, however, would in a telescope show a disk (or a crescent, or even funkier shapes); they looked bigger than points. It was possible to conceive of planets as being other worlds, at least somewhat similar to Earth.
So…scales. And I’m going to jump right on ahead to the modern age.
The Earth is roughly 150,000,000 kilometers from the Sun (or 93 million miles). This number wasn’t always known, in fact first determining it was an epic feat of observational science that had to take place when Venus crossed directly in front of the Sun (an even that happens in pairs four or eight years apart…but those pairs are a hundred years apart).
Even before we knew this number, though, we could state with great confidence (thanks to Kepler and Newton) that (for instance) Jupiter’s average distance from the Sun is 5.2 times as much as ours. We could come up with a whole table of the size of planets’ orbits…provided you were willing to accept “multiples of Earth’s average distance from the Sun” as units of measure. Well, they did, and still do today, actually; that number is now called an “Astronomical Unit” or AU. It’s useful for talking about distances within the solar system because it tends to be manageable numbers, rather than hundreds of millions when you use miles or kilometers.
So that’s one yardstick, for distances between planets. Another reference is mass; how much “stuff” do planets have in them (directly related, by the way, to how much gravity they have). That tends to be quoted in Earth masses or Jupiter masses. Jupiter, it turns out, is 318 times the mass of the earth. Diameters (actual physical sizes) do tend to be quoted in kilometers or miles. Jupiter, it turns out is about 11 times as wide as Earth. (88 thousand miles vs. 8 thousand miles in diameter).
The problem is, of course, that the sizes of the planets are much, much, much smaller than the distances between them. So we can show, in a diagram, the sizes of the planets to scale, or the distances between them to scale, but not both at the same time. Even making the planet one pixel in diameter, you couldn’t show it and the Sun without a lot of horizontal scrolling.
OK, here is a diagram showing sizes to scale:
Distances, however, will look like this:
Note the white bars under the planets; that represents the range of distances it can be at, at different points in their elliptical orbits. The planets (and even the Sun) are much too large, physically, on this diagram, where only distances are to scale.
Here is an actual scrolling diagram. Or you can hit the little dingus on the lower right and move along at light speed. Very dull, actually.
One more thing I want to get into (and it’s already 16 minutes after midnight!) and that’s different regions of the Solar System. It doesn’t take a lot of insight to see that things are hotter, the closer you are to the Sun, but as it happens there’s a point between Mars and Jupiter called the “snow line.” Outside of that line, things like water, carbon dioxide and ammonia are cool enough not to boil off. Inside that line, planets and other objects are mostly rocks. Outside, planets can be substantially gas or ice. So those four inner planets (bunched together) are the rocky or “terrestrial” planets, while the outer four are “gas giants” with an additional distinction between Jupiter and Saturn on the one hand, and Uranus and Neptune on the other. The latter two are called “ice giants” not because they actually have lots of ice on them, but because they are relatively rich in water, ammonia, methane, etc. compared to Jupiter and Saturn, which are overwhelmingly made of hydrogen and helium.
Going out from the Sun, then, we have concentric zones: the Inner Planets, an Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter, the Outer Planets, and then outside of the orbit of Neptune, we have the Kuiper Belt, a large number of actual balls of ice and rock.
That whole “close to the Sun it’s too hot for gases and ices” is a very critical theme in any look at our solar system.
OK, I’d better hit “Publish” before someone puts out an APB or BOLO on me. Next time…well, I’ll pick a planet and it won’t be Hugh Janus a/k/a George a/k/a Everyone’s Asshoe.
Obligatory PSAs and Reminders
China is Lower than Whale Shit
To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!
中国是个混蛋 !!! Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!! China is asshoe !!!
China is in the White House
Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.
Joe Biden is Asshoe
China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.
But of course the much more important thing to realize:
Joe Biden Didn’t Win
乔*拜登没赢 !!! Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!! Joe Biden didn’t win !!!
2 oz Pennsylvania rye. We happened to use Wigle Whiskey Phil’s Shadow, which is finished in maple syrup barrels for 16 months. Another Pennsylvania rye you should consider trying is Dad’s Hat. Either will make a fantastic buck.
0.5 oz fresh lime juice. If you want to be less scientific, then simply use 1/2 of a lime.
6 oz ginger beer. We used Fever Tree, but Gosling’s is also a good option.
Step 1: Fill a copper mug with ice. (If you don’t have copper mugs, then any mug or decent sized glass will do.)
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1“Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the LORD of hosts. 2But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears? “For he is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap; 3he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, till they present right offerings to the LORD. 4Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the LORD as in the days of old and as in former years.
PSALMS 24:7-10
7Lift up your heads, O gates! and be lifted up, O ancient doors! that the King of glory may come in. 8Who is the King of glory? The LORD, strong and mighty, the LORD, mighty in battle! 9Lift up your heads, O gates! and be lifted up, O ancient doors! that the King of glory may come in. 10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory! [Selah]
HEBREWS 2:14-18
14Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same nature, that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage. 16For surely it is not with angels that he is concerned but with the descendants of Abraham. 17Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people. 18For because he himself has suffered and been tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.
LUKE 2:22-40
22And when the time came for their purification according to the law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23(as it is written in the law of the Lord, “Every male that opens the womb shall be called holy to the Lord”) 24and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, “a pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.” 25Now there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon, and this man was righteous and devout, looking for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he should not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27And inspired by the Spirit he came into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the law, 28he took him up in his arms and blessed God and said, 29“Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word; 30for mine eyes have seen thy salvation 31which thou hast prepared in the presence of all peoples, 32a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and for glory to thy people Israel.” 33And his father and his mother marveled at what was said about him; 34and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, “Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign that is spoken against 35(and a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed.” 36And there was a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phan’u-el, of the tribe of Asher; she was of a great age, having lived with her husband seven years from her virginity, 37and as a widow till she was eighty-four. She did not depart from the temple, worshiping with fasting and prayer night and day. 38And coming up at that very hour she gave thanks to God, and spoke of him to all who were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem. 39And when they had performed everything according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city, Nazareth. 40And the child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favor of God was upon him.