Dear KMAG: 20231106 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Mood Music.

Go ahead. Click it.

https://youtu.be/wWNAQYaLadI

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

yabba dabba doo

exclamation

  • saying by the cartoon character Fred Flintstone
  • exclamation of joy, excitement, enthusiasm
  • typically stated prior to some new misadventure

Used in a sentence

Wolf says “Yabba dabba doo!”

Used in a picture


Moar Music

Let’s start off with epic music and WOLVES!

Now a hard 90 degree turn into country music!

OK – after that we need a DRINKING SONG that’s not DRINKABY….

OK, how about more country that’s not even a drinking song?

OK – trying hard not to play Drinkaby – lets try this form of Drinarcan….

OK, that didn’t work. There’s a NEW official version of DRINKABY.

Enjoy.

Finishing with some banjo.


And now THE STUFF!

One more time….

And one more time to my favorite neorockabilly tune!

Goofball administration is goofball.

This lady is my new hero!

Awesome old thread!

Simulation or no?

Don’t you love “ramping up to G_d?”

Or as I might jokingly put it – “follow the science!”


BATTLE LINES

It’s gonna be tough….

https://twitter.com/zachp_25/status/1719516454221959665

With friends like these…..

It’s sick and sad that women are voting IN pedophilia, legalized child prostitution, and other horrors for their own daughters and granddaughters, but that’s what Satan does. DECEPTION.

Still, we FIGHT ON!!!

Yup. Gotta wonder if this is really a ‘no’ house!

This point is important!

Even some Dems are standing up!

Nice graphic!

But who knows?

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


One before closing time!

Aw, what the heck – let’s have another!

Dear KMAG: 20231030 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

woonerf

noun

  • a road in a residential district which uses various measures to calm traffic.
  • a living street, as originally implemented in the Netherlands and in Flanders (Belgium).

Used in a sentence

Wolf thinks that the word woonerf looks appropriately Dutch. He finds the concept fascinating, because there is little difference between woonerfs and “tiny, bad, and poorly maintained public streets mixed with small private drives, alleys, and overly long driveways, all mixed into a residential mess where you’re not actually sure where the road ends and something else begins.” Not that he’s ever seen such a place!

Wikipedia entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf


A Bit of Music

Let’s start off with a Wheatie Tree!

OK – let’s go right into some strings!

It’s 2 hours long, so feel free to quit when you’ve had enough.

OK – how about some live strings? More of that “fiddle gal”!

This will become relevant later – just trust me on that!

Oh, man, I need some country after that!

Here’s Copperhead Road like y’all never heard it.

And now, back to business. Well, maybe.


Tweety Tweets ‘n’ Stuff!

The mouse is loose! AGAIN!

Moar Sister Toldjaso!

The Molnupiravir Contradiction

Why would we mass treat a virus with a drug which forces the virus to mutate, when mutation is how the virus creates new variants that reinfect the vaccinated? Before I explain the title contradiction, let me start with an admission. Most of my life, I have been very friendly with the pharmaceutical industry. I …


Speaking of such things – let’s look at future body count, shall we….

7%? That’s probably enough for Klaus. It’s a down payment.

Pray for those Branch Covidians who didn’t listen.

And here’s a suggestion to some folks out there….

Now – take a look at that hole in the ozone layer!

Scar-a-Mooch! Scar-a-Mooch! Make him do the Fandango!

And how about some absolutely fascinating history of science and mathematics? This one is not only rewarding, but rather easy to understand.

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20231023 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

gwnofaoadfjsadf

noun

  • random typing on the keyboard by Wolf
  • Mole Day in some imaginary language

Used in a sentence

Wolf thinks that gwnofaoadfjsadf looks a bit like Welsh, even though it’s just jibberish.


A Bit of Music

This is a great but weird one.

The story is that Gretchen Wilson was a session artist for rock and country back before she got famous in country. Discussed here.

Apparently she’s always been quite a fan of Heart.

Let’s have some of the original!

OK – we have to finish with some science bluegrass for Mole Day. This is surprisingly good.

And now, back to business!


Election 2023 – The Final Stretch

Ohio Issue 1 is definitive. This is the ultimate groomer amendment, backed by the commies, begging to be added to the state’s constitution.

I will be doing what I can, which is never enough, to help defeat this monstrosity.

The choice is stark.

If this passes, parents will lose control of their kids FROM BIRTH – if the babies even make it that far.

I won’t be here on The Q Tree most of the time, during this home stretch, but I invite ALL OF YOU to bring the ammunition here. Bring the news about EVIL Issue One! Help me alert the nation to what they are doing in Ohio, which is worse than what they did in Michigan. Help the people of Ohio stop the insanity of “reproductive freedom” of CHILDREN FROM BIRTH.

After today, I will copy this post as a placeholder until the election is over. I will comment occasionally, but I will have to fight every day to STOP ISSUE ONE.

Until then, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

Defend American Motherhood!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20231016 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

Pfizer-affirming care

noun

  • mRNA-based coronavirus vaccines manufactured by Pfizer
  • the dual-component COVID drug paxlovid
  • any drug or vaccine made by Pfizer or a subsidiary thereof.
  • prescription or administration of any of the above
  • legislation supporting any of the above
  • mandating any of the above

Shown in a picture

Shown in another picture


Assorted Tweets

On oldie but goody.

This post just makes me smile, too.

New CDC Director in 3….2….1….

While I think Rochelle’s replacement is pretty clueless, I did find one of her college pictures, when she was, like, totally serious!

Looks like Elon has a new vintage toy!

Truly, it is nice having a Twitter X CEO (no, I don’t mean Dorsey) who gets it.

What the heck! This chick will NOT get out of my Twitter X feed!

Bay area. Well, THAT makes sense.

And then there’s this. An important point.

Amen.

No, not that plan. The other one. The one that includes this plan, all other plans, and itself.

So how does that work?

Sorry – it’s complicated. Maybe just Trust In God for now!

How did they put it?

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20231009 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

affirm

verb

  • To declare positively; assert to be true.
  • To declare support for or belief in.
  • To rule (a court decision) to have been correct; confirm.
  • To show or express a strong belief in or dedication to (something, such as an important idea).
  • To testify or declare by affirmation, as distinguished from swearing an oath.

Expressed in an medical infographic about “gender-affirming care”

Expressed in a pediatric policy infographic (pay attention!)

Discussed in a fascinating video illustrating institutional capture mediated by trans activist organization WPATH

Note that this video is over 3 years old.


Assorted Music

How about some more Celtic Woman?

In honor of our own songstress, for whom we are all praying.

OK – get in the time machine – OR ELSE!

And now for something completely different….

Another YouTube suggestion. Glad she got vocal-affirming care.

And a worthy finale.

Amen.


Notes on Autumn

Victory is not to be achieved in this world.

I’m not saying that we shouldn’t try to win.

I’m not saying we can’t win, won’t win, or shouldn’t win.

I’m not even saying that too much winning is a bad thing.

But TRUEST victory is not achieved in our own lifetimes.

Stated a different way, THE BEST IS ALWAYS YET TO COME.

Thus, to do the RIGHT thing, always keep that in mind. You are FINITE. God is NOT!

https://youtu.be/CAQh6mehXok

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20231002 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

sucralose

noun

  • artificial sweetener approximately 320 to 1000 times as sweet as sucrose (white sugar)
  • a chlorine-trisubstituted disaccharide (sucrose with 3 hydroxy groups replaced with chlorine atoms)
  • the generic name for Splenda®
  • 1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxyfructose–4-chloro-4-deoxygalactose disaccharide
  • not to be confused with the less powerful sweetener Sucaryl (sodium cyclamate), which has a similar taste
  • found in many soft drinks – check your labels

Expressed in a picture

Side effects in an infographic

Probably doesn’t cause cancer, though!

Sucralose Non-Carcinogenicity: A Review of the Scientific and Regulatory Rationale


More Random Music

Another Beths song I don’t think I’ve heard before.

How about a new version of Mo Ghile Mear by Celtic Woman?

Aw – we can’t have that one without playing the original, dream-inspiring version of the song brought here by cthulhu!

OK – gotta have some Wheatie music (TSFH). Lots of dancing – not just this lady flasher on the intro photo!

OK – let’s finish in a very classical way.


The Epstein Amendment – New Outrage Discovered

Just when you thought that the Epstein Amendment Issue 1 in Ohio could not be any worse, somebody figured out that it legalizes PROSTITUTION and (drum roll) CHILD PROSTITUTION.

Yes, it’s THAT BAD. “Reproductive freedom of all individuals” is what they’re selling us. YIKES.

Can this thing possibly win? Well, if it does, Ohio will become the playground of pedophiles.

Looks like NORMAL PEOPLE have their work cut out for them, stopping this leftist travesty.

Keep fighting the good fight, and….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KAG: 20230927 Open Thread, the MAGA Insurgency Part II and OPERATION TRUST

First prayers for  Deplorable Patriot, her Mom and her Family. May God be with them and also with our country. Second please excuse spelling and grammar errors, I am 1/2 asleep.

It would seem our country is FINALLY waking up.

Operation Trust.’ On the Infinite Strength of Questions — Burning Bright

Have you ever heard that phrase bandied about in the Info War?

On an Actual level, it refers to a declassified counter-intel operation conducted by the State Political Directorate of the Soviet Union implemented in the 1920s, in which Bolshevik (communist) aligned agents were both installed into and founded grassroots anti-Bolshevik movementswithin the Russian and Eastern European populations.

The goal of this communist operation was to root out existing threats to communist rule from within the sovereign population, and to provoke the ‘turn’ of anti-communist sentiment within those most likely to found, lead or join anti-Bolshevik movements in the decades to come.

In essence, it was an intelligence False Flag operation meant to trick anti-communist, pro-sovereign Russians into believing there was a powerful anti-Soviet movement in the offing; the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment within the destabilized empire. By cutting off the heads of the sovereign sentiment within the Russian population, the Soviet government was able to curtail early threats to its rule, while blunting the formation of future threats for generations to come…

(For more on said communist infiltration and its eventual defeat at the hands of the reforged Russian Federation, check out the Righteous Russia series here on Burning Bright.)

Burning Bright goes on from there. It is a good read AND VERY TIMELY. Burning Bright and Just Human also discuss this topic during last weekend’s Defected Ep 42 – Sun

A very rough transcript of the part I wish to discuss:

JUST HUMAN:

@36.45 …[It is important to have] healthy skepticism of our opponents that we don’t agree with, but having just as much if not more healthy skepticism coming from the news we do agree with. I think that is one of the most dangerous and where you can really slip up…. When the news is something you agree with at the outset… you have to have healthy skepticism of BOTH SIDES. MAYBE MORE SO OF YOUR OWN SIDE….

BURNING BRIGHT:

@46:30 We have been psy-oped and demoralized into believing that hope… is illogical. With an organic movement like the Q drops, people grift on to that, or they are installed and PAID and WE KNOW THIS HAPPENSthis is a MACRO Socratic Operation that is telling you, your nation has been subverted . [Telling you] THIS IS HOW TO FIND OUT who is subverting it and how and how to counter them… Q was not ‘Operation Trust’ but those who grifted onto it were little versions of Operation Trust…

When I heard this and then read Burning Bright’s article I immediately thought of DHS Sec. Janet Napolitano and The Oath Keepers.

“…(communist) aligned agents were both installed into and FOUNDED GRASSROOTS ANTI-BOLSHEVIK MOVEMENTS. …the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment…”

Given Jan 6th doesn’t it make sense that The Oath Keepers IS actually a DHS/COMMUNIST TRAP and the Trap was finally sprung on Jan 6th? Doesn’t that explain the outlandish sentencing AND THE ARREST AND CONVICTION OF PEOPLE WHO NEVER EVEN WENT IN THE CAPITAL? Especially given the fact the Banksters FUNDED the Bolshevik Revolution.

Just Human discusses just that about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers starting at 1:12:45. He looks at it from the angle of having read their ‘confessions.’

Refresher on Napolitano and the Oath Keepers:

It all links back to Obama and Janet Napolitano.

Napolitano was head of DHS in March of 2010 when she switched focus FROM Muslim Terrorists TO Homegrown Patriotic Veterans and retired LEOs. (See my article AND Logic: The Conspiracy to Ban Guns

Funny how Rhodes Started up the Oath Keepers at the SAME TIME THE REPORT NAPOLITANO REFERS TO WAS WRITTEN…

 In an increasingly bizarre world Napolitano stands by the controversial Department of Homeland Security report which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S along with ordinary American patriots.

“…“Rightwing extremism,” the report said… goes beyond religious and racial hate groups and extends to “those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”

It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” said the report, which also listed gun owners and veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as potential risks….”

Napolitano stands by controversial reportApril 16, 2009 

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S…..”

WIKI (Now changed)

Oath Keepers was founded in March 2009 by Elmer Stewart Rhodes a Yale Law School graduate, former U.S. Army paratrooper, and former staffer for Republican Congressman Ron Paul….

(I wonder if he was a SPY placed on Ron Paul’s Staff. Staffers move from person to person as congress critters come and go.)

Wolfie documents Napolitano popping up again in connection with Jan 6th HERE.

Now does these tweets make sense?

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Yesterday I discussed Mike Benz’s information on the destruction of our First Amendment right of Free Speech. There is one thing Mike Benz does not mention and it is a very effective tactic — the Limited Hangout.

A limited hangout or partial hangout is a tactic used in media relations, perception management, politics, and information management. The tactic originated as a technique in the espionage trade.

According to Victor Marchetti, a former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a limited hangout is “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further. — WIKI

So let’s go back to the Devolution video I Tuesday yesterday.

Devolution Power Hour #181 Featuring Burning Bright and Just Human – Wed 10:30 PM ET –

The first point I want to mention, is how YOUNG most of the Badland hosts are. Jon Harold has not even read Q, Kate was a Democrat as was Burning Bright. Just Human and Patrick Gunnels are Libertarians. I find they are missing a heck of a lot of the information that I have acquired from being an ‘EVIL BOOMER’

@ 1:45:40 Jon Harold talks about how necessary $$$ are and how hard it is to hold a full time job AND produce good content. “So I made that leap to doing this full time, but not everybody can do that.” [Very true but it makes you vulnerable. GC]

….Therefore being able to support yourself as full time Alt-News journalist is critical to the insurgency… WE have come up with a way… this is something WE talked about at GART II… this is how WE decided we could decentralize our information. This is how EVERYBODY CAN PLAY A ROLL IN THIS…”

Jon then pushes https://badlandsmedia.tv/portal/

It requires name AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS… I maybe paranoid but it makes me think of…the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements …”

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What is ironic is I wrote the part about Limited Hangouts and the Devolution Power Hour BEFORE I saw Burning Bright’s ‘Operation Trust’ article. Talk about being ‘guided’!

Over the last several months I have shared my increasing suspicion about Patrick Gunnels. Here are some of my past comments.

Gail Combs(@gailcombs)  Reply to  nikkichico7

 April 4, 2023 16:16 … #1077456

YUP!

The Blair Rockefeller Report showed the Tea Party was WELL EDUCATED middle class BOOMERS. These are the CORE of MAGA.

(And they are still giving Patrick Gunnels grief on Badlands for his tasteless remark Boomers are EVIL.”  😆 )

Nice example:

countermoon
1 hour ago

I’m not a boomer—far from it, I’m not a huge fan of that troubled generation—but I admit to losing my patience when Patrick Gunnells unleashed another of his impulses against the boomers, falling for the “generational warfare” psy-op. I know this guy was a theater major, and provocation is his M.O., but enough already.

Gunnels is a THEATER MAJOR???
I do not know if it is true, but it certainly explains him. [I now know he is not]

Gunnels is NOT A Theater Major he was a math major. The confusion may have come from here:

Jen Gunnels | Games For Change

Меню Jen Gunnels earned her PhD in Theatre History and Criticism at the University of Texas at Austin and currently serves as Theatre Editor for the Hugo nominated.

https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/gunnels_jen

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Gail Combs(@gailcombs)

 March 26, 2023 17:06 …. #1072732

Patrick Gunnels is reading The Art of the Deal: https://rumble.com/v2epdr6-reading-epic-lit-book-2-the-art-of-the-deal-chapters-4-1130-pm-et-.html

It does not matter. He is getting an ASSWHOOPING!

only 812 likes, 22 down votes

AND

The commenters are telling him off!

Top comment:

Tjjis1

15 hours ago

I’m really disappointed in your boomer comment earlier..

Gunnels Reply:

pgunnels

9 hours ago

Them you’re definitely one of the bad ones.


I have noticed Gunnels can no longer break 1000 likes since he came out with the Flat Earth crud. [CURRENT UPDATE: Current P Gunnels Rumble, up votes ~500 and under with 7k to 14K views. That is 1/2 what he was getting a year ago with 20 – 45K views and over 1,000 ^ votes.]

Maybe Jon Harold will get a clue and TOSS HIM but probably not at this late date.

Virus Denialism

Gail Combs(@gailcombs) e

 July 21, 2022 03:44 …. #929196

Patrick Gunnels unfortunately fell for the ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VIRUSES” It seems to be based on saying electron microscopes are FAKE….

Rest of comment here: https://www.theqtree.com/2022/07/20/yes-virginia-there-is-a-virus/#comment-929196

I am going to add this:

Steve Kirsch Joins Patrick Gunnels to Discuss Pathogenic Viruses
A debate on Virus vs NO SUCH THING between Patrick Gunnels and Steve Kirsch:

I interview Patrick Gunnels who claims that viruses don’t exist

What I find VERY interesting is the top several comments on the Kirsch Gunnels debate on Gunnels channel, (first has 68 thumbs up) are all congratulating Patrick for defeating Steve Kirsch. We are talking the first 2 pages… The commenters on Steve’s channel also congratulate Gunnels. Please note that Patrick recently let slip he had taken courses in debate.

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VIROLIEGY — Keeping the Truth Movement True with Patrick Gunnels and Eric Coppolino

Exposing the lies of Germ Theory and virology using their own sources.

Yesterday, Eric Coppolino and I were invited to the “Reading Epic Threads” show with Patrick Gunnels to discuss unity and disunity in the truth movement and where to draw the line. We also focused on whom to trust in the medical freedom movement as well as how to decide how far to go when trying to awaken people….

I do not think I trust these guys to tell me the truth.

WIKI –

Eric Francis Coppolino (born 1964) is an American investigative reporter who specializes in corporate fraud and toxic torts litigation, and also the former astrologer for the New York Daily News and Marie Claire magazine.

Linked-in

My next personal reinvention, well underway, is scifi/fantasy novelist. Specialties: Astrology, toxic torts litigation, compersion, studio photography, street photography….

Publisher & Editor Planet Waves, Inc.  – Present 25 years

Planet Waves is a high-end news and information service centered on astrology, but also providing information about erotic education, environmental issues and politics. We offer exquisite original photography, many daily features and subscriber services. I continue to work as an astrology consultant for businesses and individuals with a focus on midlife career changes….

Mike Stone Proves My Point about the Dogma of Virus Denialism

…illustrates my accompanying point about how the nonexistence of viruses is really a belief system to which they cling dogmatically, requiring them to ludicrously reject all relevant scientific literature while themselves being capable of producing nonethat actually supports their belief.

The above is a very nice point by point rebuttal. Wolfie did a rebuttal too: Yes, Virginia, There is a Virus – The Q Tree

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This is what the Cabal is saying about Gunnels and viruses:

HOW ANTI-VAXXERS PASSED OFF PRO-TRUMP YOUTUBER PATRICK GUNNELS AS DR. KNAUSS

…According to the post, Dr. Knauss tested 1,500 positive COVID- samples and none of them contained the coronavirus. He claims that the tests contained type A and type B influenza viruses. The post also notes that the results were sent to several laboratories and the same results were received. Later, Dr. Knauss applied to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requesting live COVID-19 samples, but the latter responded that it had no such samples. Knauss claims that not a single laboratory has isolated the coronavirus that confirms that COVID-19 is a fiction and in fact, the virus is nothing but yet another flu strain….

The text of the posts spread by Georgian anti-vaxxers allegedly involves remarks by Dr. Derek Knauss. Neither the Doctor with this name nor any study conducted on COVID-positive tests can be found in scientific databases. The Spanish fact-checking organization Maldita writes that the name of Dr. Derek Knauss from California does not appear on ResearchGate or Google Scholar, the web search engines for scholarly literature….

The posts are accompanied by a photo depicting a man. According to its caption, the man is Derek Knauss, Doctor of Medical Sciences who claims that the coronavirus is a fiction.

In fact, the man depicted in the photo is not Dr. Knauss, but rather YouTuber Patrick Gunnels. The latter runs a YouTube channel Reading Epic Threadscreated in 2019. In his videos, Gunnels mainly reads out and discusses the tweets of various users….

SO who is this ‘Myth Detector’?

It is a ‘Fact-Checking’ group out of the country of Georgia started in 2014.

ABOUT US

Our Mission: 

Media Development Foundation (MDF) launched its fact-checking and myth debunking platform – Myth Detector – in 2014, to uncover truth behind the lies, explore hidden agendas, raise the level of media literacy and inform both people and institutions of Georgia [the country] about the impacts of disinformation.

👉 Since November 2019, Myth Detector is a verified signatory of the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) of the Poynter Institute, working alongside with 100 fact-checkers from more than 70 countries around the world and member of#CoronaVirusFacts Alliance and WhatsApp Coronavirus Information Hub.

In September 2020, Myth Detector partnered up with Facebook to fight against misinformation in the framework of Facebook’s Third-Party Fact-Checking Program. Myth Detector reviews and rates the accuracy of content aiming to improve the quality and authenticity of stories in the News Feed. When rated false, Facebook shows the story lower in News Feed, significantly reducing its distribution and warning people who see the post or try to share the post that it has been marked as false. Facebook pays Myth Detector to perform this service for them but it has no say or influence over what Myth Detector fact-checks or what the conclusions are, nor does it want to.

Since 2016, MDF is cooperating with EUvsDisinfo – the flagship project of the European External Action Service’s East StratCom Task Force and is a member of the Open Information Partnership (OIP) bringing together think tanks, fact-checkers, independent media and grassroots organisations to support efforts to counter hostile information influence operations. The website was created by the Media Development Foundation (MDF) with the support of the German Marshall Fund/Black Sea Foundation for International Cooperation and German Cooperation.


The Media Development Foundation (MDF) is responsible for the material posted on the website. It may not reflect the views of the German Marshall Fund or German Cooperation

So Patrick is already on the Cabal’s radar for targeting.

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FLAT EARTH

The difference in comments between Mike Toon’s video and Patrick Gunnels version are… Telling.

Patrick Gunnels had no clue in this debate. – YouTube

Will Patrick Censor the comments you leave? Leave nice ones so his hypocrisy is clear. https://rumble.com/v360pkm-flat-vs-globe-patrick-debates-mctoon.html…

Mike Toon

This is an EPIC take down of Gunnels.

Start @ 33:35 MC TOON (Mike) vs Gunnels. Patrick has been a Flat Earther since 2019. Mike says he has been doing Globe Earth vs Flat Earth debates weekly for 4 years. So unlike with the virus debate with Steve Kirsch, who was not a virologist or a debater, Mike is ‘fully armed’

@ 37:30 Gunnels says his academic background is in mathematics, professional background is in software. In 2017, Gunnels noticed TPTB (the powers that be) info was not always reliable. “So I made a promise to myself I would only belief information if I could verify down to its foundations….”

(Excuse me while I ROTFL.)

Sorry, but just how much CAN a person ACTUALLY verify INDEPENDENTLY? DARN LITTLE!!! Instead what Patrick has done is profess belief in an ALTERNATE, much of which is unverifiable too!

In the first few minutes Gunnels tries his first debate trick — Change the actual topic from Flat Earth to a spinning globe.

@ 42:05 Mike says this is information that he measured himself. Previously I gave three different ancient techniques. Mike and 3 others use the second method, which was first used by Eratosthenes.

Gunnels asks if he has a video that explains it. As a Math Major he would have already been familiar with the method and he is. This leads to Gunnels second trick. He plays a video about Eratosthenes and his method and then says Eratosthenes makes the ASSUMPTION that the earth is round and therefore begs the question. @ 47 minutes Mike slaps him down saying you put that on me… Did I claim that as proof? And it gets better from there.

Mike: “The essence of science is to TEST something that is FALSIFIABLE.”

[This is where Steve Kirsch flubbed it. Not being a virologist, he could not actually test viruses.]

Then Mike goes into the hypothesis IF the earth is flat….(Slapping down Gunnels straw man debate trick) and looks at real-world measurements and uses trigonometry (Right angle triangle) and concludes, that IF the sun cannot be in two different locations, then Flat Earth is proven false. (1:01:30) And it goes on from there with Mike countering Gunnels using REAL WORLD MEASUREMENTS the entire time.

Gunnels then brings up a ‘Black Swan’ event.

To understand Mike’s argument look at this paper that Mike references and Gunnels ignores:

Distance to the horizon Andrew Thomas Young. (subject matter expert)

The ‘black swan’ event has the optical measurement very obviously confounded by the refraction phenomena as Mike repeatedly points out. As a result Gunnels becomes increasingly unglued and then at 1:30:00 kicks Mike off his Rumble channel.

If you have the time this is a really good lesson in how science (and debate) is SUPPOSED to work.

And as the cherry on the Gunnels pudding (head) you have this On Gab:

Patrick Gunnels @pgunnels Mar 7·

Fuck unity and the horse it rode in on.

https://gab.com/pgunnels

Well that certainly tells us what Patrick thinks of WWG1WGA doesn’t it?

SYNOPSIS:

Gunnels supports the claim that there is no such thing as a virus, letting Ralph Baric et al off the hook.

He goes even further saying there are no pathogens just poisons and parasites. That’s a dangerous point of view that could get people killed. He insults Boomers (who make up a significant part of MAGA) and refuses to apologize. And then he caps it off with the idiotic Flat Earth crap that was disproven before Christ was born.

So is Patrick’s real goal to splinter Alt News and also make them look like far-out wack jobs?

MORE INFO:

Badlands started up in Oct of 2022.

FEBRUARY 02, 2022: Sean Morgan interviews Patrick Gunnels of “Reading Epic Threads” about his new event in Nashville “ThreadFest 2022”

Start @ 6 minutes go to 10 minutes. Gunnels gives his sales pitch (He is a salesman after all.) — He talks of an event called Patriot Doubled Down where Jon Harold was a featured speaker. Gunnels says what his friend Jon and he noticed is the event covered stuff everyone already knew. “What we wanted was an event where great minds had really really dug into events… new ways of looking at things. The most fun was when Jon and I and 8 people sat around a table and talked.” That was the genesis of Thread Fest. “We could put together an event, [small 150 max] where the producers of the Great Threads of our world, where the great independent media minds of our world had gotten together to look at history, gov documents transactions… could interact.

So as I hypothesized, Gunnels was a major force behind the formation of Badlands and the CORRALLING AND PAINTING OF ALT NEWS AS FAR OUT WACK JOBS!

AD:

Patriots, get ready!

From April 22 to April 25, 2022, Patrick Gunnels of Reading Epic Threads and Patel Patriot of the Devolution Series will host a three-day deep dive extravaganza at the incredible The Inn at Opryland in Nashville, TN! Even as we speak, speakers are being lined up. As plans come together, we will update this site on a regular basis. Participate in this event to support a conservative cause and to celebrate love…

Patrick Gunnels – He is an American news researcher and professional as well as the creator of the “Reading Epic Threads” program on various social media. He has been tutoring students in maths at all levels for over twenty years. He graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a BA in Mathematics

Patel Patriot [Jon Harold] He is a former Catholic School fundraiser…

Nothing about his jobs with software companies or sales…

…. Threadfest deadline for room bookings has passed. So I booked a bunch of rooms on my own dime and will bundle them with your ticket! https://www.threadfest.show/tickets.html – Patrick Gunnels

Rooms are $230/night deal rates are $189.

2 night stay $378 per room.

20 rooms = $7,500… They were talking 150 guests so NOT selling 20 rooms out of 150 for a first time event is not out of the question. I do not have that kind of spare $$$ to toss around, how does Gunnels if all he does is tutor math students ? However that is not ALL that Patrick does.

It is interesting that it is hard to find out just what Patrick does despite his running as a Libertarian for election to the Texas House of Representatives against Cringeshaw. (Libertarians generally take votes away from the Republicans.)

This MAY be Patrick (looks like him). If so he wrote a Linked-in article about HOW GREAT ThousandEyes is:

THOUSANDEYES

Thrive in a Connected World

ThousandEyes was founded in 2010 by Mohit Lad and Ricardo Oliveira, colleagues from the UCLA [University of California LA] Computer Science department. Our leaders have deep experience in networking, Internet routing, and SaaS

Platform Overview

End User Monitoring

Assure network performance and web app experience from employee devices

Network and Application Synthetics
See how every network and service impact your enterprise digital experience

Not only is Gunnels connected to software, ?that monitors end users? as he said on the Mark Toon’s youtube, he is also a SALESMAN and more and more it is looking like he is selling Badland Hosts down the river.

DHS ‘Cat Herders’

Dear KMAG: 20230925 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

allele

noun

  • Any of the alternative forms of a gene or other homologous DNA sequence.
  • One of two or more alternative forms of a gene that can have the same place on homologous chromosomes and are responsible for alternative traits.
  • Either of a pair of Mendelian characters that may occur in an organism as a consequence of variation at one gene locus.
  • a variation of the same sequence of nucleotides at the same place on a long DNA molecule.
  • a short form of the word “allelomorph”.

Expressed in a picture

Appearing in an important paper

A common allele of HLA is associated with asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection


Random Obscure Country Music Night.

Just grabbing stuff I’ve never heard off YouTube….

A version of Copperhead Road like you’ve never heard….

Aw, heck – let’s make that country rock just a bit!

So what ever happened to Gretchen Wilson? She’s had a few scrapes and close calls, but as of June 2023, she’s apparently still out there!

https://youtu.be/QnfEp9OmAMs

Let’s try something REALLY weird – Carrie Underwood x Joan Jett


Field Report

The crazy realpolitik world continues to be interesting. The battlefield landscape on Ohio Amendment Issue No. 1 seems to be shifting as people realize that this amendment serves the interests of pedophiles and groomers, resulting in parent-free sex-change of kids. I cannot predict which way the vote will go now. Passage and defeat are both possible.

And then Random Nuisance vetoes a state groomer bill in California? What’s up with that? Is he reading the tea leaves? Hmmmmmm.

Happy that Carl is back, and YUGE thanks to Gail for helping out Deplorable Patriot in this time of trouble. Prayers for DePat and family. May God shelter and comfort them.

God Bless you all!

Keep fighting the good fight, and….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20230918 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

instigate

verb

  • To initiate or bring about, often by inciting.
  • To urge on; goad.
  • To goad or urge forward; to set on; to provoke; to incite; — used chiefly with reference to evil actions.

Used in a picture (h/t Barb)

Used in a picture (as the associated noun)


Music time!

Beginning with some classical (your mileage may vary on the “sadness”)….

But check out these social media-driven “fiddle girls” – very interesting phenomenon!

To make it more commercial, just add some MTV….

So let’s finish with a string quartet of sorts!

AHHH – what the heck – I need some boy music. A song that cthulhu played Friday that takes me back. Mmmmmm, mmmmmm.


System Report

The system is back up, as of the writing of this post.

What a fight.

On the subject of “war is hell”, let the following video (set to Wheatie’s favorite music) be a reminder of why peace matters. (You have to go to the link – it’s pretty graphic.)

https://youtu.be/fnNy81CfXt0

Wasn’t Gail saying something about Prussia? I seem to recall…..

As for the present….

Has the UFO propaganda got you scared? AS IF!

No, it has you bored and dismissive. Interesting psychology – isn’t it? So why did we get all of THIS stuff first?

Enjoy the epic music set to alien invasions – or something like that.

The plugin “nonce” problem got fixed, as well as some security issues.

The fact is, we’re dependent on “plugins” that are often weak links in WordPress security AND functionality. The team fixing our commenting system seems to be small and subject to competing duties.

But we will persist.

Keep fighting the good fight. We’re back.

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20230911 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

trinitite

noun

Trinitite, also known as atomsite or Alamogordo glass, is the glassy residue left on the desert floor after the plutonium-based Trinity nuclear bomb test on July 16, 1945, near Alamogordo, New Mexico. The glass is primarily composed of arkosic sand composed of quartz grains and feldspar that was melted by the atomic blast.

You’ll see why I chose trinitite later in this post.


OK – here is the epic orchestral Wheatie music I was looking for….

Maybe some “Celtic mystique” music?

How about “Viking folk music”? No guarantees of authenticity here.

But let’s finish with some orchestral-backed vocals…..

OK – that was inspiring!


Carl was back on Sunday! Praise God!!!

I know it has been a while since I said “Trust The Plan”, but every once in a while I realize that it’s there.

Some very interesting posts (and replies) on X. Let me give you a guided tour.

This is an oldie but goodie on an old QAnon account that does indeed put time frames in perspective.

I found the reply here terribly interesting. It’s worth looking at Brian’s full tweet.

This is also going to be big – Lara Logan’s new production on January Sixth.

Now – check this out – a long train of tweets to some fascinating references.

First – UGH – the photo on the right.

Watch the liar who swoops in from Alinskyworld…. and the response….

I tried to find the source of the photo on Tineye, but could only find an older tweet, which also had the picture in a “trans” argument.

That post notes the prior self-cutting by the young woman, visible in the photo. A pro-trans poster excuses the cutting as a result of gender dysphoria thereby requiring the surgery, while I might see the surgery as the ultimate form of “cutting”.

As an aside, I think the mom may be relieved of some guilt here. She was likely ready to believe anything that the doctors and trans activists told her. Thus, it is to some extent likely to be a kind of “Stockholm syndrome X Munchausen by proxy syndrome”.

The original poster responds with an excellent old article questioning trans surgeries.

That led to an argument that the Guardian reference was too old, and ANOTHER more recent reference, which is what you REALLY need to see.

LINK: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2019/11/58371/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/mjoSS

New Data Show “Gender-Affirming” Surgery Doesn’t Really Improve Mental Health. So Why Are the Study’s Authors Saying It Does?

This is an absolutely fascinating example of “agenda science” and intentional misrepresentation of data. Check out the summary of the article:

Data from a new study show that the beneficial effect of surgery for transgender people is so small that a clinic may have to perform as many as 49 gender-affirming surgeries before they could expect to prevent one additional person from seeking subsequent mental health treatment. Yet that’s not what the authors say. That the authors corrupted otherwise-excellent data and analyses with a skewed interpretation signals an abandonment of scientific rigor and reason in favor of complicity with activist groups seeking to normalize infertility-inducing and permanently disfiguring surgeries.

This is EXACTLY what is wrong with science all over the place now. COVID science is just like this. Mask science, too. This dishonesty of interpretation is everywhere. AGENDA SCIENCE.

Here is the full text of the article, saved from censorship.


new study appearing last month in the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that “gender-affirming” surgery is associated with reduced demand for subsequent mental health treatment in a sample of persons diagnosed with “gender incongruence.” Predictably, such news received wide media interest and coverage. And yet even a cursory reading of the study itself tells a far less optimistic story than the media narratives—as well as the authors’ own inexplicable confidence—have offered. Indeed, the analyses would seem to suggest the benefit of a hormonal or surgical course does not outweigh the demonstrable physical and financial costs of such treatments. Future studies might suggest otherwise, but not this one.

The study’s shortcomings have nothing to do with the data, nor the methods employed by its authors (and public health researchers) Richard Bränström and John Pachankis. The data come from the Swedish Total Population Register, a massive, longitudinal survey effort that collected information from over 9.7 million Swedes, or about 95 percent of the country. No complaints there. The analyses are high-quality: the authors tracked respondents over time and assessed their use of mental health treatment (for a mood or anxiety disorder) in 2015, as well as other related measures (such as hospitalization after a suicide attempt), as a function of time since gender-affirming hormone and surgical treatment. Its measurement precision is excellent, and would satisfy most methodological purists. So far, all good news. But then come the scholarly interpretations of the study’s results, which are remarkably out of step with the far more modest conclusions they merit.

The study found no mental health benefits for hormonal interventions in this population. There is no effect of time since initiating hormone treatment on the likelihood of subsequently receiving mental health treatment.

First, a word about the hormones: the study found no mental health benefits for hormonal interventions in this population. There is no effect of time since initiating hormone treatment on the likelihood of subsequently receiving mental health treatment. Given the surge in interest, demand, and supply of hormonal therapies to self-identified transgender persons today, you would think that it is a solution that pays obvious benefits in reduced subsequent need—over time—for treatment of mood or anxiety disorder, or hospitalization after a suicide attempt. Yet there was no statistically significant effect. In fact, the confidence intervals actually reveal a nearly significant aggravating effect of hormonal treatment on subsequent mental health needs.

It is the surgical effect, however, that has grabbed all the attention. Bränström and Pachankis detected a statistically significant effect of time since last “gender-affirming” surgery on reduced mental health treatment. The adjusted (for controls) odds ratio for this was 0.92, meaning that, among respondents diagnosed with “gender incongruence” who then received gender-affirming surgical treatment, the odds of being treated for a mood or anxiety disorder (in 2015) were reduced by about 8 percent for each year since the last surgery. In other words, it would appear that the surgery—or more typically, the series of surgeries—benefited their mental health.

But the authors discuss a “linear decrease” in seeking subsequent mental health care that is simply not visible in the study’s graphs, where post-surgical mental health treatment hovers stably around 35 percent among those in their first nine years after surgery, and then drops to only 21 percent of those patients who are in their tenth (or higher) year since their last surgery. However, only 19 total respondents reported their last surgery as having been completed 10 or more years ago. By contrast, 574 (out of 1,018 total) reported their last surgery as having been conducted less than two years ago. (Surgical treatment is clearly surging.) This means that the apparently helpful overall effect of surgery is driven by this comparatively steep drop in mood/anxiety treatment among only 19 patients. By the math, that would seem to indicate that four out of these 19 Swedes (i.e., 21 percent) sought help in 2015 for mood/anxiety problems.

While the study reports the adjusted odds ratio of the overall effect of time since surgery (0.92), which I cannot replicate without having data access, you don’t need the data to calculate an unadjusted odds ratio from the information presented there. This can tell us the baseline effect of time since surgery on receiving mood and anxiety treatment, only without the controls (like age, income, etc.). Doing this reveals the fragility of the study’s key finding: if a mere three additional cases among these 19 had sought mental health treatment in 2015, there would appear to be no discernible overall effect of surgery on subsequent mental health. The study’s trumpeted conclusion may hinge on as few as three people in a data collection effort reaching 9.7 million Swedes, 2,679 of whom were diagnosed with gender incongruence and just over 1,000 of whom had gender-affirming surgery.

The study’s trumpeted conclusion may hinge on as few as three people in a data collection effort reaching 9.7 million Swedes, 2,679 of whom were diagnosed with gender incongruence and just over 1,000 of whom had gender-affirming surgery.

An increase of just three treated individuals (from 4 to 7 of 19) brings the overall effect to zero. On the other hand, a decrease of just three treated individuals (from 4 to 1 out of 19) yields an (unadjusted) odds ratio of 0.88, which would enable a claim of a 12-percent reduction in mental health assistance from getting the surgery. These large swings in estimates are due to very small adjustments in the data. As is often the case with small samples, tiny changes lead to large fluctuations in estimated effects. But, for this patient population, you are not going to find larger data collection projects than the Swedish data. This is as good as it gets when it comes to studying transgender medical experiences and outcomes.

Another helpful statistic I calculated is called the NNT, or “Number Needed to Treat.” It’s a measure of clinical impact. In this study, the NNT appears to be a staggering 49, meaning the beneficial effect of surgery is so small that a clinic may have to perform 49 gender-affirming surgeries before they could expect to prevent one additional person from seeking subsequent mental health assistance [ref] In this case, the NNT = -1 * [1/[(OR-1)UER] + OR/[(OR-1)(1-UER)]]. Using an adjusted odds ratio (OR) of 0.92 and an unexposed event rate (UER) = 0.453, I get NNT = 49 cases. The UER I employ here comes from the mood/anxiety treatment rate for “perioperative” individuals with gender incongruence, as reported in the study’s Figure 1. The term “perioperative,” however, is vague and not defined by the authors. (It could mean right before or right after surgery.) It is not, however, a control group (that is, of Swedes diagnosed with gender incongruence who have not pursued surgical treatment). However, even such a control group would have limitations, including selection bias (e.g., screening for co-occurring mental illness or a lower level of gender dysphoria). Indeed, a prospective randomized controlled trial is not possible with this population. Nevertheless, the number employed offers a reasonable baseline UER, given the available data. NNTs below 10 “usually denote a worthwhile difference when comparing one intervention with another,” notes Leslie Citrome in “Quantifying Clinical Relevance.”[/ref]. If no other treatment was available, or the treatment was not invasive and the hazards were insignificant, clinics might consider surgery a low-risk but low-payoff approach. But none of those applies here. Conducting 49 surgeries to secure one additional patient who benefits? Unheard of.

The authors are nevertheless quick to declare that “this study provides timely support for policies that ensure coverage of gender-affirming treatments.” I cannot see how such confidence is merited. Time since hormonal treatment yielded no discernible effect on subsequent use of mental health treatment, while the modest effect of surgery hinges on a handful of cases from an earlier era (10 or more years ago) when very few gender dysphoric patients pursued surgery at all. And it’s not a leap to wonder whether those who did so a decade ago are a different kind of group than those who do so today. Moreover, suicide—the threat that seems to prompt all the urgency in doing something radical to alleviate psychological distress in these patients—may well have claimed an unknown number of Swedes who had had gender-affirming surgery ten or more years ago. We just don’t know, because the study does not track completed suicides for this sample.

If this were a clinical trial seeking to establish the efficacy of a particularly invasive medical treatment in comparison with a non-invasive standard protocol, there is no way that these published results would favor the invasive treatment—in this case, “gender affirming” surgery—when the statistical difference in outcomes was so tiny and fragile. This is not, contrary to what Bränström told ABC News, an evidence-informed treatment. That the authors corrupted otherwise excellent data and analyses with a skewed interpretation signals an abandonment of scientific rigor and reason in favor of complicity with activist groups seeking to normalize infertility-inducing and permanently disfiguring surgeries.

Physicians should not be pushed to prescribe such profoundly consequential treatment by threat of call-out, malpractice suits, patient demand, or—in this case—the overreaching interpretations of quality data. Clinicians are being bullied into writing a radical prescription based on fear, not on sensible conclusions from empirical data.

But this reasonable position is getting more difficult to defend. Less than two months after another team of activist psychiatrists landed a weak study on “conversion” therapy in the journal JAMA Psychiatry, its lead author has commenced a movement aimed at a wholesale ban on such a notion. This is alarming, especially since the idea itself—“converting” from having become convinced you are born in the wrong body to concluding that you can live with the body you have—is nonsensical. There is no defined psychotherapeutic method for treating gender dysphoria that can be widely characterized and consistently identified as “conversion therapy” in order to be banned. Nor has there been a clinical trial evaluating specific psychotherapeutic methods of counseling gender dysphoria that could potentially demonstrate whether such methods are helpful or harmful.

This is not how normal medical research works.


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