Health Friday Open Thread 9.20.2024: Double-Expose’ Edition

The above is a vintage image of Dr. Edward Jenner administering the first smallpox vaccination (inoculation) to James Phipps, 14 May 1796. Courtesy of www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/.

Today’s post, as it relates to the disaster of COVID-19 and the COVID-19 “vaccines”, is dedicated by Yours Truly in memory of her cousin Bill, who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023. However, the discussion is not limited to what is presented here: it is an Open Thread.

There are two separate, although connected (Big Pharma), parts to today’s offering. Each part is of itself an expose’. This post is a long one, but important. Please, take a cup of coffee or tea; or, if it’s an appropriate time of the day, perhaps a “wee dram” of something like chilled D.O.M. Benedictine with a twist of lemon peel, and settle in for reading.

Readers already know the caveats regarding civil discussion on this board; of the alternate sites in case the main board is not accessible (here and here); and, that what Yours Truly presents on Health Friday is not medical advice, but opinions and/or hypotheses from ongoing research on COVID-19, Big Pharma, and other health topics.

Quick, down-and-dirty summary” of today’s post:

One: Pfizer-BioNTech has begun a new enterprise, PfrizerForAllTM, which apparently seeks to completely circumvent / marginalize, in-person consumer contact with pharmacies; to “funnel” in-person consumer contact with healthcare practitioners to “Pfizer-affiliated” professionals; and, to “redirect” the dissemination of information about the COVID-19 “vaccines” to that provided by Pfizer-BioNTech.

Two: That the FDA approval of the very dangerous and deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, for use also as a “prevention” for Mpox, is the result of a complex mixture of Big Pharma influence + FDA review of the Biologics License Applicaion for this use of ACAM2000 that is, in Yours Truly’s opinion, “a foregone conclusion despite serious reservations”, to say the least + Gain-of-Function experiments on the Mpox virus. There is also a potential tie-in to “an expanded biodefense role.”

Yours Truly has tried to avoid making today’s post read like a scientific paper; however, there is a lot of information that is relevant to each Expose’. Note: Mpox is now the “official” name for monkeypox.

Expose’ One: It appears that Pfizer-BioNTech is creating new ways to increase the company’s consumer operations (and, therefore, potential profit lines.) Pfizer-BioNTech has just launched PfizerForAllTM — a direct sell-to-consumer business that will provide online access to healthcare providers (online [virtual], or affiliated healthcare providers encounters [for example, to get a COVID-19 “vaccination”]); plus, “delivered to your door” prescription drugs and “easier access” to other company products, such as their COVID-19 “test kits.”

The story begins here: https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pfizers-vaccine-business-is-so-pfucked, 7 September 2024. From the blog article, below:

Pfizer-BioNTech filed a Trademark Application in May 2024 for this new PfizerForAllTM program https://endpts.com/pfizer-submits-trademark-application-that-suggests-it-could-be-launching-a-direct-to-patient-program/, 13 May 2024, by Nicole De Feudis. (One must be a subscriber in order to read the entire article.) It appears that the application was approved: the company officially launched the program on 27 August 2024 (from the article on www.businesswire.com/, Pfizer Launches PfizerForAllTM, a Digital Platform that Helps Simplify Access to Healthcare (www.pfizerforall.com/.) From the article:

In other words, in Yours Truly’s opinion, Pfizer-BioNTech, not happy with the company’s portfolio loss due to falling consumer acceptance of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” offered, and due to the failure of the company’s clinical trial of its “combo” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” + influenza “vaccine”, a corporate decision was made to find a way to go straight to the consumer and make it “so easy” to get access to the “vaccines”, plus other Pfizer products. Translation: banish “vaccine” hesitancy / “vaccine” refusal, by doing what may be called “straight to the consumer medical psy-op.” Again, from the Latypova article:

Dr. Peter McCullough’s take on the Pfizer-BioNTech move is here: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/pfizer-launches-pfizerforall, 14 September 2024. Below is a portion of his article:

The lawsuit that Pfizer-BioNTech settled in 2009 was over the use of the company’s drug, Bextra, in “off-label” situations. The scope of the settlement is described here: www.justice.gov/, “Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History”, 1 November 2023. A portion of the announcement is below:

This lawsuit was the starting point for FDA changes to its “regulations” regarding the use of prescription drugs in “off-label” situations. The latest FDA changes are summarized here: www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2023/11/fda-s-latest-off-label-guidance, 1 November 2023. It appears, in a nutshell, that drug manufacturers can be held responsible (liable) for “off-label” use of their products, even if they already comply with the “new” FDA “regulations.” (Think of this in light of the use of, for example, Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine to prevent or to treat COVID-19 — these uses, arguably, are “off-label” for these drugs.)

By the way, PfizerForAllTM is working with UpScript Health and Alto Pharmacy regarding access to healthcare services and filling prescriptions. Guess what? UpScript Health lists Pfizer as a “partner” on the company’s “About” page of their website: www.upscripthealth.com/about/. And, there’s more — Alto Pharmacy, the online prescription drug company, has a couple of interesting members on their Board of Advisors: Alex Azar (HHS head under then-President Trump); and, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (he who helped to write the “ObamaCare” bill; he who advocated for people to take their own lives at age 75 “to make room for the younger generation”, and more): www.alto.com/our-company. Dr. Emanuel is also involved with the Center for American Progress (Soros-connected: www.americanprogress.org/c3-our-supporters/); The Aspen Institute; and, he is Co-Director of the Healthcare Transformation Institute (HTI) at the University of Pennsylvania. Below is the Mission statement of HTI (https://hti.upenn.edu/mission/):

Note 1: the “objective” to transform the behavior of physicians and other healthcare providers. (Italics, mine.) Note 2: the “imagifashion” hyperlink, apparently, after getting past the “fake Latin language” on the main page, takes one to a clothing/accessories company in California: https://nilah.la-studioweb.com/contact-us/. (??)

Regarding Alto Pharmacy, please see here: www.fiercehealthcare.com/health-tech/track-soon-hit-1b-revenue-alto-pharmacy-tapped-amazon-exec-its-next-phase-growth, 17 August 2022. Here’s what one needs to know about the “mission” of Jamie Karraker and Matt Gemache-Asselin, the company’s co-founders:

This statement really frosts Yours Truly. My late father was a Registered Pharmacist for 57 years, who: kept his pharmacy very clean and neat (one was part of the crew that swept the floors and cleaned the display shelves starting when she was 10 years old); made it a point to know about all of his patients and to TALK with with then they came to have prescriptions filled or refilled; worked out deals with his suppliers to get extra samples of OTC products to give to his patients who had lost their steel mill jobs when the mills left Pittsburgh in the late 1970s-early 1980s, and, who paid for their prescriptions with his own money at times, etc., — finds the language, “…brick-and-mortar terrible experience…” in the above statement not only to be personally insulting to the memory of her father: but, also, degrading to those “brick-and-mortar” pharmacists who do their job to keep their stores clean and organized.

Expose’ Two: This regards the FDA just “approving” the “expanded use” of the dangerous and deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, for the “prevention” of Monkeypox (now called “Mpox.”) The FDA issued this “approval” on 29 August 2024. The trail on this begins here: https://mole.substack.com/p/acam2000-package-insert-warning-death, 14 September 2024.

To gain more understanding of Smallpox and inoculation / vaccination against Smallpox, please see: www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/medicine/smallpox-and-story-vaccination. Both Smallpox (variola) and Mpox (mpox virus) are members of the genus Orthopoxvirus. Whereas, a disease condition that would equate to Smallpox goes at least as far back as to China around 3000BC, Mpox was first discovered in 1958 (all, per Wikipedia search.) Dr. Edward Jenner, an English physician, noticed that milkmaids were immune from Smallpox infection; he deduced that the Cowpox infections that they sustained had made them immune to the other type of infection. Dr. Jenner administered the first “inoculation” of Cowpox virus (to prevent Smallpox) to a child, James Phipps, on 14 May 1796. Another source of information is here: wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2024/infections-diseases/smallpox-and-other-orthopoxvirus-associated-infections. Further details are found here, in the article, Edward Jenner and the history of smallpox and vaccination, January 2005. A screenshot of a portion of this article is below:

About ACAM2000: it is manufactured by Emergent BioSolutions, headquartered in Gaithersburg, MD. The FDA approved ACAM2000 for use for the prevention of Smallpox in August, 2007. It contains vaccinia, a live virus ingredient used in modern Smallpox vaccines. The vaccinia used in ACAM2000 is a replicating version. The vaccine is cultured in a mixture of African Green Monkey kidney cells (sound familiar? — as in, perhaps, SV40 African Green Monkey cancer promoter gene splice that was found in the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” by Dr. Kevin McKernan?). ACAM2000 was originally only intended for use to prevent Smallpox — until its use was “suddenly expanded” on 29 August 2024 by the FDA to include prevention of Mpox (more on that later in the post.) Since then, articles such as this one have appeared (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-acam2000-mpox-vaccine-warning-death-unvaccinated/, 17 September 2024, by Suzanne Burdick, Ph.D.; and, social media has been posting items like this one: https://x.com/toastontheside/status/1835921932841062412. This tweet references the FDA-issued handout for patients and/or caregivers regarding ACAM2000. The FDA handout is found here: www.fda.gov/media/75800/download. FDA handout documents for patients and/or caregivers are likely to have, in Yours Truly’s opinion, “sanitized” information and “pablum-like” assurances regarding the “safety and efficacy” of the drug or injectable. The FDA handout for ACAM2000, however, is different: when one reads the handout, one gets a distinct impression that this “vaccine” is highly dangerous. Below is a screenshot portion of the FDA patient/caregiver handout for ACAM2000:

Note that there is NO MENTION of the other FDA-approved Mpox vaccine, JYNNEOS, which is arguably “safer” for the patient (see further down in the presentation regarding JYNNEOS.)

The Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for ACAM2000 is here: www.fda.gov/media/75792/download. The document gives a much more comprehensive picture of the dangers of this “vaccine.” Yours Truly will highlight a few of the items in this document which show how dangerous and deadly this vaccine is, beginning with two images from page 1 of the Fact Sheet: the Black Box Warning; and, the Warnings and Precautions:

Remember, this dangerous and deadly “vaccine” is now approved for persons “at risk for Mpox”, in addition to persons at risk for Smallpox (this disease was eradicated in 1980.)

And, from Section 6 Adverse Reactions portion of the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000:

Continuing with Section 11 Description from the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000:

And, from Section 17 Patient Counseling Information of the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000, two portions:

Note several items from the above screenshots: One, that the “vaccine” must be given to the recipient via 15 separate jabs with a bifurcated needle; Two, there are MULTIPLE adverse reactions potential for persons taking this “vaccine”; Three, that persons who contract a Smallpox infection from a person “vaccinated” with ACAM2000 can die of the infection they contract; Four, that the ACAM2000-“vaccinated” person must stay away from pregnant women, household members, persons with eczema, etc., for a period of time after “vaccination”; among many other issues.

Yours Truly will again recall to the reader’s mind that ACAM2000 is now FDA-approved for PREVENTIVE USE among persons who are at risk for Mpox. From what Yours Truly has read about it, Mpox is, for all intents and purposes, likely to be a LESS-DANGEROUS form of Orthopoxvirus, compared to another form of the same Genus, variola (Smallpox virus.) [HOWEVER, see the presentation answering Question Two, further below in the post.] There is a vaccine that was previously FDA-APPROVED for the prevention of Mpox — JYNNEOS, manufactured by Bavarian-Nordic. This vaccine also uses the vaccinia virus as the foundation; but, JYNNEOS is cultured in a mixture of chicken embryo cells; and, although it also has live vaccinia, it is a NON-replicating version. JYNNEOS was also originally FDA-approved for the prevention of Smallpox. In Yours Truly’s opinion, even though JYNNEOS does indeed have potential for serious adverse reactions (for example, cardiac issues), this vaccine appears to be much less dangerous and deadly compared to ACAM2000. The FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for JYNNEOS is here: www.fda.gov/131078/download.

Two questions arise immediately: First, what is about ACAM2000 that makes it so dangerous?; and, Second, why did the FDA suddenly approve the use of ACAM2000 for the prevention of Mpox in August 2024?

As to the first question: ACAM2000 is the “descendant Smallpox vaccine” from the older Dryvax Smallpox vaccine, which was manufactured by Wyeth. ACAM2000 replaced Dryvax in August 2007, after FDA approval. The Package Insert (archived version) for Dryvax is here: https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/bt/smallpox/dryvax_label.htm. Below are two screenshots from the Package Insert for Dryvax:

Note that the inoculation process for Dryvax consisted of 2 or 3 punctures for the initial (primary) vaccination; and that 15 punctures were used for revaccination. However, ACAM2000 requires 15 punctures for the initial vaccination. Why 15 punctures for the initial vaccination? It would appear, in Yours Truly’s opinion, that requiring 15 punctures for the initial vaccination with ACAM2000 exposes the patient to more of the ingredients of the vaccine (think the Moderna COVID-19 modRNA “vaccines” all having more than 3 times the “mcg payload” of lab-enhanced SARS-CoV-2 spike protein PER INJECTION, as compared to the “mcg payload” of the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” [Which is NOT to say that the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA “vaccines” are somehow “safer” than those of Moderna. THEY ARE NOT.])

Yours Truly turns to section 8.1 of the FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for ACAM2000 (link above.) This “vaccine” is particularly dangerous to pregnant women, to women who wish to become pregnant, and to a fetus carried by a pregnant woman (whether or not she is “vaccinated” with ACAM2000, since persons “vaccinated” with this product will “shed” ingredients [from the forming / formed pustule, or the scab from the pustule, etc.], onto other persons who come into contact with the “vaccinated” person.) Below is section 8.1:

It would also appear that there is inherent danger due to the fact that ACAM2000 uses a live, replicating vaccinia (another Orthopoxvirus that is “weaker” than variola [the Smallpox virus], and which is used to make modern-day Smallpox / Mpox vaccines), as compared to the live, NON-replicating vaccinia that is used the JYNNEOS Smallpox / Mpox vaccine. Once inoculated (vaccinated) with ACAM2000, the vaccinia produces a kind of “mini-infection” in the patient, affecting the area around the inoculation site, along with the lymph nodes in the same area. Vaccinia may also appear in the blood of the patient. There is also the issue of “self-inoculation” by the ACAM2000-“vaccinated” patient (from scratching or “picking at” the scab that forms after the “mini-infection” pustule forms on the skin, and also when this pustule begins to clear); and for other reasons — the FDA Fact Sheet section 17 Patient Counseling Information for ACAM2000 discusses this. In addition, there is the varying amount of vaccinia concentration that is produced in the patient after ACAM2000 inoculation; see below from section 11 Description of the FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers:

In other words, there are many areas about the ingredients and mechanisms of ACAM2000 that raise the risk of complications, including death, for the patient who takes this “vaccine”, for pregnant women and their fetuses, for women who wish to become pregnant, for persons who are immunocompromised, and for persons who are NOT “vaccinated” with ACAM2000, during the multiple “danger zone” weeks after ACAM2000 inoculation.

Turning to the second question, concerning the FDA approval in August 2024 for ACAM2000 to be used as an Mpox “vaccine”: this situation is complex. It involves Big Pharma, the WHO, and, what to Yours Truly “smells like” Gain-of-Function research, among other items.

Yours Truly will begin with Emergent BioSolutions, the company that produces ACAM2000. Emergent BioSolutions, a “global enterprise” with headquarters in Gaithersburg, MD, was established in 1998. Its first project was to partner with the United States Defense Department to supply the Anthrax vaccine that was administered to members of the military (www.emergentbiosolutions.com/about-us/.) The current CEO of the company is Joseph C. Papa. Mr. Papa’s most-recent position was CEO of Bausch + Lomb, another large Big Pharma company. Mr. Papa, apparently, is a “mover and shaker” in the pharmaceutical industry. However, it is also apparent that Baush + Lomb was in financial trouble when he left it to become CEO of Emergent BioSolutions. In fact, Bausch + Lomb is “exploring” selling off some of its pharmaceutical assets, due to “significant debt load” (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bausch-lomb-explores-sale-amid-112230409.html.) Perhaps, the company’s Post-IPO debt funding was not enough: www.crunchbase.com/organization/bausch-lomb/company_financials; scroll down to “Investors.” Mr. Papa has Bachelor’s and Doctorate degrees in Pharmacy; his career includes working with many Big Pharma companies (Novartis, Cardinal Health, and Watson Pharmaceuticals, among others.) Please see his entry in Wikipedia; and, here: https://waterstreet.com/people/papa-joseph. Water Street (Water Street Healthcare Partners) is an investment company that has a portfolio worth approximately $6Billion spread across healthcare services companies, medical diagnostics companies, and pharmaceutical/life sciences companies (https://waterstreet.com/companies.)

Mr. Papa was hired on 21 February 2024 by Emergent BioSolutions to facilitate the financial turnaround of the company. Below is a screenshot of the company’s financials from September 2023 to September 2024, via Crunchbase. It appears that Mr. Papa, a “mover and shaker” in the Big Pharma world, is working hard:

Also, via Crunchbase, a snapshot of Emergent BioSolution’s funders:

Which leads to this: https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-acam2000r-smallpox-and-mpox-vaccinia, “Emergent BioSolutions’ ACAM2000R (Smallpox and Mpox (Vaccinia) Vaccine, Live) Receives U.S. FDA Approval for Mpox Indication; Public Health Mpox Outbreak Continues Across Africa and Other Regions”, 29 August 2024. The announcement follows this, from the WHO: www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/mpox, 17 August 2024. A screenshot of a portion of article is below:

Which also follows the WHO declaration of an “Mpox Public Health Emergency” in Africa: https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-responds-mpox-public-health-emergency, 19 August 2024.

It appears that now, Mpox is being “re-classified” as another, although serious, sexually-transmitted disease that can infect any sexually-active person; and, that Mpox has apparently “made the leap” from monkeys to other animals (rodents and even to domesticated dogs), and to between animals and humans. This leads to another aspect of the situation: Yours Truly’s suspicion that there have been / are ongoing, Gain-of-Function experiments on Mpox.

Here is the “fast and dirty” summary on Gain-of-Function experiments with Mpox:

One: Up until 22 August 2024, the FDA had only ONE approved “vaccine” for Mpox: JYNNEOS. However, on that same day, the FDA conducted a “review” of the BLA Application (Biologics License Application) for ACAM2000 to have approval as a “vaccine” for Mpox. This application was approved on 29 August 2024 (www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-roundup-august-30-2024.) Please see: www.fda.gov/media/181552/download for the BLA review. The FDA reviewers, apparently, had some “reservations” about ACAM2000 — see the screenshot below:

Despite the multiple reviewer comments regarding the BLA for ACAM2000, the FDA approved it anyway for Mpox “prevention.” In fact, look at THIS, from section 11.2 of the ACAM2000 BLA document, below:

Two, the Gain-of-Function issue regarding Mpox: First, the CDC connection:

The CDC has a”working relationship” with countries all over the world, including African countries: www.cdc.gov/global-health/about/index.html. The NIH has an entire department, the Fogarty International Center, part of the agency’s “global outreach.” Here is the agency’s link to the “Sub-Saharan African Region”: www.fic.nih.gov/WorldRegions/Pages/SubSaharanAfrica.aspx.

The “Fauci connection” related to his article regarding the role of the NIAID “…in preparing for an expanded “biodefense” role”, April 2022: www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/expanded-biodefense-role-national-institutes-health. The NCJ Number is 194395. Below is the Abstract:

The CDC has an updated report on the incidence of Clade II infections of Mpox, an outbreak that originated in Central Africa (more on Clade II of Mpox further down in today’s post): www.cdc.gov/, “Clade II Mpox Outbreak Originating in Central Africa”, 13 September 2024. Per this article, there are no Clade I Mpox infections in the United States at this time; however, there are 2466 reported cases of Clade II Mpox infections, with 7 deaths. There are also, per the CDC report, cases of Clade II of Mpox literally all over the world at this time.

Here is an example of Gain-of-Function experiments with the Clade II of Mpox. This paper is about a study conducted at Kansas State University in which pigs were exposed to the Clade II of Mpox to see if they would get sick, and then take various blood and biological samples and test them. Sure enough, the pigs contracted Mpox. Please see: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11168330/, “Experimental inoculation of pigs with monkeypox virus results in productive infection and transmission to sentinels”, Emily Mantlo, et al., 7 May 2024. “Sentinels” were the pigs who were not injected with the Clade II Mpox, but were put in the same cages as those pigs who were. The “sentinel” pigs also came down with Mpox (in other words, animal-to-animal transmission of the virus.) Below are the Ethics Statement and the Funding Statement for this study:

Note that the study was conducted in BSL-3 labs at KSU; that tissue-processing was performed at CDC BSL-2 facilities; and, that, apparently, college students were working in the BSL-3 labs in the study. This indicates that Gain-of-Function experiments with the Clade II of Mpox were being performed; that lower-level biosafety labs were used; and, that college students were involved (how much close supervision was provided by KSU?)

Yours Truly now turns to the alarms being sounded regarding this Gain-of-Function research on Mpox, beginning here: www.science.org/content/article/house-republicans-fault-nih-for-evasive-answers-on-risky-monkeypox-virus-study, 11 June 2024. This is followed by: https://usrtk.org/risky-research/fauci-institute-hid-mpox-gain-of-function-plans/, 11 June 2024, by Emily Kopp. A screenshot from the USTRK article is below:

The link to the Congressional report is here.

So, Gain-of-Function experiments are being performed using the Mpox virus; experiments funded by the NIH. A very dangerous, deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, was suddenly FDA-approved for the “prevention” of Mpox. The “definition” of who is “at risk” for an Mpox infection has been “expanded” to include all persons who are sexually active. The Clade II of Mpox (the one that is the subject of the Gain-of-Function experiments) is now infecting people all over the planet, including in the United States. And more. Cui bono? How many of the general public will line up for an injection of ACAM2000 because the CDC / FDA / AMA / Establishment Medicine, will issue a warning due to “increasing numbers of infections being reported of Mpox?” How many healthcare professionals will be “mandated” into taking ACAM2000 “to protect themselves and the patients they care for?” (Again, JYNNEOS was already approved for Mpox “vaccination”, and it is ** potentially ** a “safer” alternative “vaccine.”) How many more Gain-of-Function experiments will be conducted, not in facilities like the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the Baric Lab at UNC Chapel Hill — but at places like the BSL-3 Ag Lab at Kansas State University (a facility where, arguably, one would expect research on, say, equine viruses, not Clade II Mpox experiments on pigs)? How much more Gain-of-Function experimentation will be hidden and/or “obscured” from public knowledge, let alone from Congress?

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

DEAR KMAG 20240918 THE HISTORY OF ISRAEL & DAILY THREAD

I started writing this article on 9/11 so that is where I am starting.

9/11 – THE DANCING ISRAELIS

Terrorists are EAGER to claim ownership of a terrorist attack. However they did not claim ownership of 9/11.

September 2001 Interview with Osama bin Laden. Categorically Denies his Involvement in 9/11

This contains the full text of Pakistani paper’s Sept 2001 “exclusive” interview with bin Laden.

In the Unmat interview, Osama bin Laden categorically denies his involvement in the 9/11 attacks.  Bin Laden’s statements in this interview are markedly different from those made in the alleged Osama video tapes.

In this interview, Osama bin Laden allegedly exhibits an understanding of US foreign policy. He expresses his views regarding the loss of life on 9/11. He focuses on CIA support to the narcotics trade.

He also makes statements as to who, in his opinion, might be the likely perpetrator of  the September 11 attacks.

This is an important text which has not been brought to the attention of Western public opinion

Pakistani Leader Claims U.S. Threat[ened Pakistan] After 9/11

By Reuters Sept 22, 2006

President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said yesterday that after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks the United States threatened to bomb his country if it did not cooperate with the American campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan 🤔

REMEMBER the Taliban was BURNING the poppy fields. I do not think the CIA was happy about that.

THE DANCING ISRAELIS PICTURED BELOW

I had originally heard these ‘Dancing Middle Eastern Men’ were ARABS just as POTUS Trump had heard. This is the first I came across this information.

The FBI’s ‘Dancing Israelis’ Investigation Reveals Israeli Foreknowledge of 9/11

.Trump even made a dishonest implant reference to “dancing Arabs” in New Jersey that day [Politfact]…. 

in 2019 the FBI at last acknowledged this event and declassified and released 144 pages documenting the agency’s investigation into a group of men who witnesses reported were filming and celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers…

Attorney General John Ashcroft personally signed off on the detainees’ release. Upon entering the private sector as a lobbyist and consultant in 2005,👉the Israeli government became one of Ashcroft’s first clients

This Article has screenshots of the actual documents.

Thursday 09-12-2024 Today’s Catholic World: The Five Dancing “Israelis” Arrested On 9-11

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: “It’s very good……. Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)”

According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home. While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS’ questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.

Said one of the men, 👉”Our purpose was to document the event.”

But how did they know there was going to BE an “event”?

HUGE QUESTIONS

…Three of the five “dancing Israelis” appeared on an Israeli television show to explain that 👉they were sent to document the event. Here is an excerpt of them:

ForBollynsSpeech11Nov2006_DancingIsraelis.wmv 2.4 mb

The ABC article, June 20, 2002, 12:42 PM : Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

MORE: This would be under POTUS Trump BTW.

Five Dancing Israelis: The Forgotten Documented Element Of 9/11

September 12, 2019

According to a former high-ranking American intelligence official who spoke to the Jewish Daily Forward in 2002, the FBI concluded in its investigation that the five Israelis arrested “were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ, served as a front.”👉At least two of the men arrested were determined to have direct links to the Mossad after their names appeared in a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives.According to one of their lawyers, one of the men, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for the Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States. Another of those arrested, Oded Ellner, subsequently stated on Israeli TV that

👉the five Israelis had been in New York at the time “to document the event,” meaning the attack on the World Trade Center.

The FOIA release of the photos is notable because responses to prior FOIA requests to the Department of Justice, which oversees the FBI, had previously claimed that all of the photos taken by the Israeli nationals had been destroyed in January 2014….

David Ike 4 minutes:

Michael Chertoff | The Times of Israel

April 3, 2019 Move comes as Trump’s Homeland Security Department disbands an intelligence unit that tracks right-wing violence. 👈 [RIGHT WING? That was Janet Napolitano switching DHS targeting FROM Muslims TO American patriots like military vets and retired LEOs. – GC]

Two former homeland security secretaries will co-chair a task force convened by national Jewish organizations aimed at tracking anti-religious violence.

The task force, announced Tuesday, is a joint project of the Anti-Defamation League and Secure Community Network, a Jewish self-defense initiative.

Its co-chairs are Jeh Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary under President Barack Obama, and Michael Chertoff, who held the job under President George W. Bush, and who is Jewish….

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HISTORY OF ISRAEL — CONNECTING DOTS

 In April 1834, the House of Representatives voted against rechartering the Second Bank of the United States thanks to the efforts of Andrew Jackson. 27 years later the American Civil War started and ran from April 12, 1861 to May 26, 1865. Remember the Tsar of Russia prevented France and Britain from reclaiming the USA as their colonies as a result of that war. LINK Britain and the City of London were NOT HAPPY.

Lincoln’s assassin John Wilkes Booth’s had a Canadian connection. It was not until the 1867 British North America Act established the Dominion of Canada as a self-governing entity within the British Empire that Canada began the journey towards autonomy. So for all intents and purposes the Brits were behind the assassination of Lincoln. Funny how I do not remember those important bits of information from history class.

The Tsar, Alexander II of Russia was the 12th Emperor of Russia from 1844 to 1881. The US Civil war ended May 26, 1865 and less than a year later the first assassination was attempted in April 1866. This was followed by a second in 1867, two more in 1879 and another on the evening of 5 February 1880. Finally on 13 March [O.S. 1 March] 1881 ‘they’ succeeded in killing him.

The European/Bank of London bankers saddled the USA with the Federal Reserve just 32 years after the assassination of Tsar Alexander II. Five years later, on the night of July 16 -17, 1918, Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, his wife Alexandra Feodorovna, and their five children – Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Alexei  were brutally murdered by Bolshevik revolutionaries thus wiping out the Tsar’s entire family line.

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Pogroms were violent riots directed against Jewish communities, often with the tacit or explicit approval of local authorities. The first extensive pogroms followed the assassination of Tsar Alexander II in 1881. Three Jews were directly involved: Savelii Zlatopolskii, Grigorii Goldenberg and Aizik Aronchik.–GC


The Assassination of Tsar Alexander II, March 13 1881

On the morning of March 13, 1881, Alexander II was travelling through the streets of Saint Petersburg in an open carriage, escorted by a small escort of soldiers and police. Several members of the People’s Will had positioned themselves along the route of the Tsar’s carriage and, as it approached, one of them threw a bomb at it. The bomb exploded inside the carriage, killing several members of the escort and injuring the Tsar. The bomber was captured almost immediately. When the Tsar was about to be taken to a safe place another attacker came close to him and threw a second bomb at his feet. Both the Emperor and the assassin were mortally injured.

The dying Emperor was carried by sleigh to his study in the Winter Palace and members of the Romanov family were summoned to say their last goodbye to him. At 3:30 that day, the Tsar passed away and his personal flag was lowered for the last time. The following month his son Alexander III ascended the Russian throne.

Aftermath

The assassination of Tsar Alexander II was a turning point in Russian and European history. It marked the beginning of a period of increased repression and censorship in Russia and served as a symbol of the growing tensions between traditional monarchies and the emerging socialist movement. [HMMMMmmmm 🤔]


I have already written about the Karl Marx, Rothschild Banker connections in my comments.

Theodor Herzl at the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, Aug. 25, 1897.


MOSAIC Advancing Jewish Thought: How a Founding Socialist Inspired Karl Marx, and Then Went on to Herald the State of Israel 🤔

Well that article certainly explains the Jewish love of Marxism!

Who sold Palestine? (From a Turkish site)

…The Rothschilds, who have made a fortune through banking since the 18th century, are a German-Jewish family whose members fled to European countries, some even receiving the title of nobility.

These Jewish nationalists (Zionists) gathered in Basel, Switzerland in 1897 and turned to England – the most powerful country at the time – for help establishing a homeland in Palestine.

The Ottoman government took certain measures against this movement, which threatened its territorial integrity. It feared that the law of 1869, which allowed foreigners to buy land in the Ottoman country, except for the Hijaz, on condition of reciprocity, would be abused….

In 1881, the Jews who faced the pogrom in Russia wanted to immigrate to Palestine en masse...

Sultan Abdülhamid II issued an edict banning Jews from resettling in Palestine in April 1882. It allowed them to settle anywhere else in the empire, though no more than 150 families…

From 1882, the Rothschilds began to buy land in Palestine on behalf of others. The Rothschilds, who had international power as they lent money to all governments, wanted the refugee Russian Jews to be allowed to settle in these lands. The embassies intervened. The Ottoman government was confused as to what to do. The first Jewish colony was established in Jaffa that same year, despite not having been granted permission. By 1918, one-twentieth of Palestine’s fertile lands belonged to the Rothschilds….

Sure doesn’t sound like the Arabs hated the Jews back then does it? Also notice these were Russian Jews and likely were of  Kazarian  blood.

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THE BALFOUR DECLARATION

Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor who first met in a pub near Glasgow University, document WWI history. It is a site that looks worth exploring.

First see:

The Rape Of Russia: Moving Towards The New World Order

…A file in the U.S. State Department, ‘Bolshevism and Judaism’, dated November 13, 1918, asserted that there could be no doubt that the ‘Jewish Firm’ Kuhn, Loeb & Company and its partners ‘started and engineered’ the revolution in Russia. The report added that Max Warburg had also financed Trotsky, and that Olof Aschberg and Nya Banken were involved. [9] These were key players whose detailed involvement we have already covered in previous blogs. [10]

Jacob Schiff, who had been promoting anti-Czarist activities in Russia since the Russo-Japanese War more than a decade earlier, paid for a large proportion of the pro-Bolshevik propaganda and bribes for the workers and soldiers in the Petrograd garrison in the run up to both the February and October, 1917, revolutions. Professor Antony Sutton believed that it was a mistake to call the Bolshevik Revolution a Jewish plot because gentiles like J.P. Morgan and William Boyce Thompson were also involved, [11] but Thompson was a loyal Morgan man and J.P. Morgan and the entire Morgan Empire were very firmly connected to Rothschild influence. [12]….


The Balfour Declaration: The Hand of The Rothschilds

Before 2 November 1917 no public position had been taken on the future of Palestine by any government. Thereafter there was a proposal from Lloyd George’s British government, approved by President Wilson in America, to support the establishment of a Jewish homeland under certain conditions. But the future of Palestine had been included in three radically different commitments secretly made by the British government to the French, the Arabs and the Jews. The French could be bought-off with Syria. The Arabs, well they were considered a lesser race by the Secret Elite and, it was presumed, could be led down a different path. The Jews, by that time described as Zionists, offered a very interesting opportunity. Key inner-circle members of the Secret Elite believed that the Empire’s strategic security would be greatly enhanced by a Jewish Palestine which owed its existence to Britain. These Zionists could be useful…

Baron Edmond de Rothschild in Paris was the first of the nineteenth-century Rothschilds to help Russian victims of the vile pogroms to emigrate to Palestine between 1881-2. Throughout the pre-war years, he acquired and supported several communities in Palestine. By 1903 nineteen out of twenty-eight Jewish settlements in Palestine were subsidised partly or wholly by him. It was claimed that Edmond’s commitment was not aimed at the creation of a Jewish state. [1] That is convenient, for once the First World War was underway, it was he who urged Weizmann to seize the opportunity to establish a Jewish Palestine. [2]

…evidence from which we have analysed the Balfour Declaration stands testament to a different truth. It was Walter Rothschild who allegedly drafted and redrafted letters to foreign secretary Balfour in 1917. [6] Be mindful that the Declaration passed through at least 5 drafts. At the very least, if say, Weizmann drafted these letters in Walter’s name, it had the Rothschild signature.  Walter opposed the idea that power in Palestine might be shared between Britain and France and, Weizmann claimed, believed that Palestine must become a British Protectorate.

👉How could any Power which claimed to have gone to war to protect the rights of small self-determining nations bring a non-existent ‘country’ to an international conference and claim it had greater rights to recognition than others?👈

The first step was the British government’s Declaration of intent to support the establishment of a ‘homeland’. An outburst of international and orchestrated approval certainly helped. But there had to be a more tangible basis; proof positive that there was a just cause.

This was the reason behind the Zionist Commission sent to the ‘Holy Land’ in 1918 👉to reassure the Arabs that no-one intended them harm.👈

It aimed to lend credibility to the Zionist claims; give Zionists some right to be heard when the world was redivided at the end of the war. And all of this timely enterprise was orchestrated through the Rothschild influence.

In addition, membership of the Secret Elite began to change in a subtle manner to which Carroll Quigley made no overt reference. Perhaps a better word might be partnership. As economic power increasingly flowed through the Morgan – Rothschild – Rockefeller – Kuhn Lowe axis in the United States, political alliances began to firm around key issues … like Palestine, but why did they go to such extraordinary lengths to realise a mythistory? The Brandeis – Weizmann connection was reflected in the Balfour-Lansing understandings. In other words, the Zionist aims metamorphosed into British and American foreign policy. The Anglo-American Establishment began to slowly readjust its position. In a sense, the drive for one world government moved towards a shared trans-Atlantic agenda that would become clearer in the coming decades...

So in the beginning of the establishment of Israel, the Arabs were made promises including “… no-one intended them harm…” Remember from the last article, “…The British claimed that their sole interest in the affair was the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire and had given their word that these Arab territories would be freed and allowed independence if they agreed to rebel..And on May 14, 1948, Israel was officially declared an independent state.

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TANTURA MASSACRE:

This the history of an Arab fishing village after the 1947 UN Partition Plan for Palestine.

“…Over the years, the release of classified documents has further confirmed Palestinian accounts of the countless massacres perpetrated by Zionist paramilitary groups and Israeli soldiers…” LINK

This is the tale of a CENSORED Israeli Grad student and a filmmaker.

Tantura massacre: Documentary exposes Israel’s foundational myth

Filmmaker Alon Schwarz challenges Israel’s narrative about the 1948 massacre of a Palestinian village

…A quarter of a century ago, an Israeli graduate student studying the impacts of the Nakba on several villages near Haifa found himself talking with Israeli veterans who openly detailed their role in a massacre…. 

Schwarz was initially working on a different documentary about human rights activists from Israeli NGOs opposing the occupation, when he met Katz, and decided to listen to the personal testimonies of murder and rampage conducted by Zionist militia members recorded on Katz’s tapes. 

Among the interviews he would have heard is the testimony of an Alexandroni militiaman who took part in the Tantura raid: “Some of these young soldiers I remember – it’s not nice to say – they put [the Palestinian villagers] in a barrel and shot at the barrel, and I remember the blood in the barrel.”

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TO BE CONTINUED…

However I want to leave this topic with the following:

Documentary: “All Wars Are Bankers Wars” Explores a Common Central Banking Connection Behind America’s Wars

https://rumble.com/v3oaskh–bankers-wars.html

Dear MAGA: 20240915 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


No Sin? . . . No Sin!!!

As we look around us these days, we’re surrounded and saturated by the evils of this world . . . and it appears to be spreading and getting worse. We’re hopeful that soon we’ll experience a pause in this evil progression with the election of PTrump, but it’s clear that we’re on an inevitable downhill slide to Tribulation. We haven’t seen anything yet. What’s coming will be a tsunami of evil and troubles such as we or the world has never seen.

I don’t want to be here when that happens. And, hopefully, I and we will not be here. We’ll be raised and changed so that sin and troubles will never, ever have even the most remote appearance in our lives. I don’t think we comprehend at all the great impact that it’ll have on us . . . but it will be glorious!!!


The Bible describes heaven or the eternal state in great detail in Revelation chapters 21–22. Nowhere in those chapters is the possibility of sin mentioned. In fact, we have the promise that, in the eternal state, we will never experience death, sorrow, crying, or pain (Revelation 21:4)—the absence of those things is proof positive that sin is also absent, since those things are the product of sin (see Romans 6:23).

The sinful will not be in heaven but in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). Nothing impure will ever enter heaven (Revelation 21:27). Outside of heaven are those who sin (Revelation 22:15). An Old Testament prophecy also assures us that the Kingdom of God will exclude sinfulness:

A highway will be there;
it will be called the Way of Holiness;
it will be for those who walk on that Way.
The unclean will not journey on it;
wicked fools will not go about on it. . . .
But only the redeemed will walk there” (Isaiah 35:8–9).

It will not be possible for us to sin in heaven.

God wills our sanctification (1 Thessalonians 4:3); that is, He wills to make us holy and free of sin. Our sanctification has three phases: the 1st phase saves us from the penalty of sin at the moment of faith in Christ; the 2nd saves us from the power of sin as we grow in Christ; and the 3rd saves us from the presence of sin as we enter the presence of Christ. “When Christ appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is” (1 John 3:2). In other words, the process by which God sanctifies us involves justification, maturation, and glorification.

The glorification that God promises His children (Romans 8:30) includes sinlessness, because sinful beings cannot be glorious. Heaven, the place of God’s glory, is sinless. Paul prays in 1 Thessalonians 5:23, “May the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely”, and he links the glorious appearing of Christ to our personal glorification: “When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory” (Colossians 3:4). This glorified state will be our ultimate separation from sin, a total sanctification in every regard. It will not be possible for us to sin in heaven.

James 1:14 provides another assurance that we will not sin in heaven: “Each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.” In this sinful world, we face temptation daily, and James identifies two forces that prompt us to sin: our own evil desire (our sin nature) and enticement (the devil’s schemes). Neither of those forces will be in heaven. Our sin nature will have been eradicated in our glorification, and the tempter will have been consigned to the lake of fire where he can do us no harm (Revelation 20:10).

The Bible’s teaching is that heaven or the eternal state is completely holy. There will be no possibility of sin, we will be clothed with righteousness (Revelation 19:8), and we will be eternally confirmed in our state of bliss. The work that God promised to complete in us will have been finished (Philippians 1:6). Our deliverance will be complete, as the elect are redeemed – body, soul, and mind – to the glory of the Lamb (Rev. 5:6–10).
xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/heaven-sin.html

2024·09·14 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson: A Reminder.

And MTG is there to help make it stick.

January 6 tapes. A good start…but then nothing.

Were you just hoping we’d be distracted by the first set and not notice?

Are you THAT kind of “Republican”?

Are you Kevin McCarthy lite?

What are you waiting for?

I have a personal interest in this issue.

And if you aren’t…what the hell is wrong with you?

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $2,498.20
Silver $28.04
Platinum $931.00
Palladium $933.00
Rhodium $5,050.00
FRNSI* 119.850+
Gold:Silver 89.094+

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, Kitco “ask” prices. Markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,578.70
Silver $30.80
Platinum $1,004.00
Palladium $1,092.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 123.745-
Gold:Silver 83.724+

Lots going on…gold surged on Thursday, and I was expecting a beat-down on Friday. Instead, it rose almost 20 more dollars. The FRNSI went up quite a bit, nearly four points! Silver did even better on a percentage basis. Note that an ounce of gold is worth 83.724 ounces of silver…but last week it was worth 89.094 ounces. That means that, in comparison to gold, silver became more valuable.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Piling On

One claim that Flat Earthers (“flerfers”) make is that there aren’t any time lapse videos of the sun doing a full circle around the viewer in Antarctica; that there’s always some sort of eight our gap in the videos.

This is a LIE. Don’t fall for it. Here is FIVE SOLID DAYS worth of timelapse with no hiccups and no breaks, taken in early March just before south polar sunset.

By the way there’s an absolute plethora of videos about the Amundsen Scott station, tours of the main building, tours of the buried areas, tours of the Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory (the largest science experiment by volume), and so on. And plenty of ways to get there as a tourist…provided you have $60K (or more). That’s roughly 24 ounces of gold right now.

Also we have a few cases of flerfers trying to run an experiment and finding they don’t get the results they expected…and not coming to the obvious conclusion.

There are three instances here: One where people stood on opposite sides of a body of water, put lights at 17 feet above water level, then tried to establish a line of site through temporary barriers with holes in them at 17 feet above water level. On a flat earth, there’s be no problem; on a curved earth, however. the barriers in the middle would cut the beam off. And that’s what happened; the light had to be raised a number of feet to be visible through the hole. Second, a gyroscope was seen to precess 15 degrees per hour…as it would if the earth were rotating over a period of 24 hours. On a flat, non-rotating Earth, it shouldn’t precess at all. Third, a striped flag was seen to disappear from the bottom to the top as it sailed off, again, as predicted by Globe Earth but not by Flat Earth.

This all forced the Flat Earth charlatans to do a lot of tap dancing, and one body language expert thinks at least one of the Big Flerfer “names” knows he’s a lying sack of shit. (Well, they didn’t say the “sack of shit” part.)

Mars

A while back I wrote something about why Mars sucks. Meaning, why it had such a thin atmosphere and virtually no surface water. This is interesting because by every indication (everything from visible stream beds on the surface, to minerals that only form in water, to sedimentary rocks which form in fairly stationary bodies of water like lakes and oceans), Mars used to have liquid running water on its surface, which in turn implies it once had a much thicker atmosphere. (There is still a fair amount of water on Mars, in the form of permafrost below the ground. This will be useful should we start human exploration.)

And it turns out that there are two key things going on here: one, Mars has weak surface gravity making it easier for the atmosphere (including water vapor) to escape and two, Mars has no magnetic field, allowing the solar wind to help that process by stripping away the atmosphere. Both in turn are consequences of the fact that it’s considerably smaller than Earth. (There’s no magnetic field because the interior of the planet has cooled off, because it is smaller than Earth, which hasn’t cooled off internally yet, and still has molten iron inside.)

This in turn has a bearing on the question of life. We’re mostly convinced nothing lives on Mars (though there’s a significant minority of scientists who make plausible arguments that there could be). But the tougher question is whether Mars ever had life, back when conditions were much better. That’s largely dependent on how long the conditions were good, how rapidly life actually develops…and whether it’s a rare event even given the right conditions. All of these are very much open questions at the moment; the frontiers of human knowledge.

Time to revisit Mars.

Orbit

First, where is it? Its orbit averages 1.52 AUs in radius…which is to say it’s 52 percent further away from the Sun than is Earth. But that is an average; it varies from 1.38 at one end of the elliptical orbit, to 1.67 AUs at the other. This is a large variance and Mars therefore has a much greater orbital eccentricity than most planets, at 0.0934. (0 is perfectly circular, 0.9 and above are very “cigar” shaped with the Sun close to one end of the cigar. No planet comes close to that though some comets do.) Since Earth is at 1 AU and orbits in 1 sidereal year, it completes one orbit in 1.88 (Earth) years or 686.90 Earth days.

As seen from Earth, Mars moves from west to east against the background stars, usually. It can appear to travel in the opposite direction at times, when we “lap” it in our orbit around the Sun. Here’s an animation from 2020, showing the actual relative positions of Mars and Earth, and an inset showing how Mars appears to move across our sky. (Note how, even though Mars’s orbit appears to be circular, it’s not centered on the Sun; that’s because in fact it is very slightly elliptical.)

If you watched that and paid attention to the trace of Mars across the sky as seen from Earth, you might wonder why it’s not just a straight line. That’s because the two planets don’t orbit in exactly the same plane. The Earth’s orbital plane is the zodiac line, Mars is at a slightly different tilt so even though it roughly follows the zodiac, it doesn’t stay precisely on it.

Surface Conditions

So Mars is significantly further away from the Sun and one would expect it to be colder…and it is, with an average surface temperature of -69C or -60C depending on how you take that average. (This is Antarctic winter type temperatures.) Yes, you will see that it sometimes gets up to +35C, but that’s rare; it’s just as liable to get down to -110C.

What else would you experience on the surface other than it being cucking fold there? Surface gravity is 0.3794 of Earth…almost exactly 3/8ths. (A 98 pound weakling is a 37 pound weakling there.) Air pressure depends on elevation, like it does here on Earth. Our scientists picked an arbitrary “sea level” that is about average for Mars (there is of course no sea), and at that level atmospheric pressure is 0.00628 our sea level pressure…not even one percent! We couldn’t live in that, even if it were pure oxygen, which it is not; it’s 96% CO2. There is a fraction of a percent oxygen but when you multiply that by how thin the air is, it might as well not be there. There is actually more argon than oxygen.

This is not to say there isn’t wind on Mars, and even dust storms, sometimes those storms can cover huge parts of the surface; at least one even covering the entire planet just as our first Mars orbiter arrived in 1971. These tend to happen when Mars is nearest to the Sun, and they help keep it warmer than it otherwise would be.

Another aspect of Martian weather is that the surface radiation is extreme, because there is nothing to block the solar wind and also nothing to block ultraviolet light. Solar flares and the like would cook you just as much as they would on the Moon.

Does Mars have seasons? Yes, cold, and colder. But seriously, yes. The axis is tipped a bit more than 25 degrees, and that causes seasons just as it does on Earth.

The Martian day is 24h 39m 36s long on average. That’s noontime to noontime; to avoid confusion with the Earth day, we call the Martian day a “sol.” Of course since it is orbiting the Sun just like we are, it has to rotate slightly more than one time on its axis to do this, it has to rotate another half degree or so to account for the Sun not being in the same direction against the stars as it was the day before. The true “God’s Eye View” rotation of Mars (i.e., relative to the stars) is 24h 37m 22.7s. Visitors to Mars would have an extra 39.6 minutes to kill every day. And this matters a great deal to some people even now, because Mars surface rovers only function in the daylight (because they run off solar panels, besides, it’s hard to see in the dark anyway). So the scientists and mission controllers here must follow the Martian day night cycle. Imagine a job where every day you have to wake up and go to bed 40 minutes later every day; you’d be out of sync with your family pretty quickly, and it would take about 36 days before things got back in sync.

Size

Mars has a radius of 3396 km, or about 53% of Earth’s. Which means a Mars globe and an Earth globe to scale should have the Earth globe looking about twice the width as the Mars globe.

Mars’s surface area is 144 million square kilometers, 28.4 percent of Earth’s. BUT…Earth is mostly covered by water, so Earth’s land area is 149 million square kilometers. Virtually the same. So there’s a lot of real estate there, however, as of now it’s about as valuable as that land just west of Miami or San Francisco.

Here is a map, with elevation coded by color.

Note the northern hemisphere would largely be ocean, if there were an ocean, with the south almost all highlands. But there is a big basin, the deepest/lowest spot on the planet, in the south at 60 degrees longitude–this is the Hellas basin, and likely an old impact basin. Another smaller basin is at about 320 west. But the true highlands area straddling the equator at 240 degrees is the “Tharsis bulge.” There are three white peaks in a line running southwest to northeast, then west of that, an isolated white peak. That peak is Olympus Mons, the largest volcano known to man. It’s so large you could be on its slope and have no idea you were on a volcano, just that the land has a gentle slope to it.

This thing is BIG. Here it is compared to France.

The other tourist attraction on Mars is Valles Marineris, a canyon 4000 km long, 200 km wide, and up to 7 km deep. It would stretch most of the way across the United States. It cuts through the left hand side of the red area on the map. There are other smaller canyons thought to have been cut by running water, but Valles Marineris is actually thought by some to be a rift zone from plate tectonics, one that failed as the mantle cooled too much for such things. (Photographed in infrared which apparently has better contrast.)

Moons

Mars has two moons, insignificant little things that weren’t discovered until August 12 and 18, 1877, by Asaph Hall. They are too small to have forced themselves into spherical shapes. The inner, larger moon is Phobos (named after the Greek deity of panic and fear) roughly 22 km across (it’s hard to average it when it’s basically shaped like a potato), with Deimos (named after the Greek deity of dread and terror) being 12 km across (same caveat).

The names make sense, because Mars was after all the god of war. (In Greek mythology this god was known as Ares, and a lot of scientific terms to do with Mars actually derive from this root, e.g., “areography” analogous to “geography”)

Phobos has an average orbital radius of 9,377 km, while Deimos has one of 23,460 km. Phobos orbits Mars in a mere 7.66 hours while Deimos orbits in 30.35 hours.

Note that Phobos orbits Mars faster than Mars rotates. These are both in the same direction (counterclockwise as seen from over Mars’s north pole), so Phobos’s actual west to east motion overwhelms its apparent daily east-to-west trip across the sky as Mars rotates. So, it actually rises in the west and sets in the east!

There is some thought that Phobos could be used as a transit point for people traveling to and from Mars; imagine how convenient it would be to set up a space station there. There’s plenty of room for such a thing there.

Exploration of Mars

Mars is undoubtedly the best explored planet other than, of course, Earth. The first successful flyby of another planet was by Mariner 4 in 1965. The first successful orbiter for another planet was Mariner 9 in 1971…at which time Mars was suffering a planet wide dust storm. Fortunately it cleared while the spacecraft was still alive, and we finally discovered the great volcanoes and Valles Marineris. (All prior flybys had just happened to fly by when the wrong side of Mars was presented.) The Soviets tried multiple times but had my luck, having few successes. They were the first to attempt a landing…and failed, repeatedly. They finally succeeded with a flyby about the same time we put Mariner 9 in orbit. (They had better luck with Venus, which is harder. Go figure.)

Finally in July and September 1976 the two Viking landers successfully touched down on Mars. Here is the first photograph taken from the surface of Mars. (With one caveat. The Russians successfully landed on Mars in 1971…but the spacecraft went belly up less than two minutes later, having transmitted part of a picture. I can only imagine the profanity they must have used.)

And a panorama, which I remember being printed on the front page of the newspaper (with messed-up colors that made the sky look blue):

One of their missions was to search for life–presumably microbial life–by running various tests on soil samples. Although most think the tests returned negative results on the whole, there was enough activity in some of the tests that some to this day hold out hope that there was, in fact, life there.

Since then, of course, we’ve had a plethora of orbiters and rovers, but as yet no sample-return mission. China has gotten into the act.

But where to from here? Elon Musk has famously pushed for actual permanent human habitation on Mars, with an aggressive timeline. The idea would be to send one of his Starships to Mars, after refueling in Earth orbit, then on Mars making fuel from the CO2 in the atmosphere and subsurface ice, which would be used to make methane and oxygen. Not the best fuel in the world, but far better than lugging it all the way from Earth (which would require MUCH bigger rockets to launch the mission in the first place). This is similar to the Mars Direct concept put forth in the 1990s by Robert Zubrin, which involves sending a return vehicle first, waiting for the next launch window and sending a habitat with crew and another return vehicle, then again every launch window. Habitats would accumulate on the surface, and fuel would be manufactured for both the return vehicles and for rovers. By spacing the habitats and return vehicles several hundred miles apart, a network of them is eventually set up, and they can even back up for each other in emergencies since they would be in rover range of each other. (And if a previously sent return vehicle fails, there’s one that came with the crew during this launch window.)

Mars is in some ways an ideal target. There are resources there that could be used by human visitors; carbon from the atmosphere, water from subsurface ice. We could breathe there, indefinitely, with help from machinery. We could likely grow food there too. Everything we can create there is less stuff we have to schlep there in the first place. In many ways, it’s a better bet than the Moon, even if it is scores of times further away.

There was an epic set of novels by Kim Stanley Robinson describing the future on Mars, with the first bases, terraforming, and settlement, they are “Red Mars,” “Green Mars” (as some plant life takes hold), and “Blue Mars” as Mars gets an ocean. In fact there’s even a Martian tricolor flag inspired by these classic books, with red, green and blue.

How feasible is that? Can Mars ever be that earthlike?

Maybe more than you might think! It turns out that a big magnet (I can’t seem to locate how powerful it would have to be, but it’s something we could put there) placed at the L1 point between Mars and the Sun might actually be enough so that Mars would find itself in the “tail” of the magnetic field, now protected from the solar wind.

https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-wants-to-launch-a-giant-magnetic-shield-to-make-mars-habitable

The people putting forth this idea claim we might see significant thickening of the Martian atmosphere in years, not decades or centuries. The atmosphere would be mostly carbon dioxide…and that is a greenhouse gas. It might get warm enough even to melt the subsurface water, eventually.

We might not be able to breathe the air, but if the pressure is high enough, we can ditch “space suits” and just wear an oxygen mask over our faces, and maybe a parka if we need to keep warm.

I definitely see our future involving Mars in a big way…provided of course we have a future. I can’t imagine us ever making it if current trends continue…unless Musk is able to pull a rabbit out of his hat, quickly. Because 40 or maybe only 20 years from now we might not have a civilization capable of it any more.

November is important.

Curiosity and the Occult

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I originally thought I would write about the voodoo religion and its practices in this post. Others commented both on the value of that, and of the dangers inherent. Upon reflection, what I will write is more of a treatise on how to research and satisfy the curiosity about this kind of thing, and the obstacles you will encounter.

I will also touch on parts of the practice of voodoo, but not delve too deeply. If, however, you don’t want to associate yourself or read any of it, I don’t blame you. There is a warning below for when I get into some detail.

One must be very careful when researching ANY of the occult religions in this day and time. Sadly, there has been such a fascination with them over the past couple of decades that good factual information can be hard to find. There is a lot of pure bullshit being passed off as real. As an example, I will cite the Druids.

We actually know very little about the Druids, except for the fact that they existed, and that they were scary. Druids kept no written records or history; most of what we know comes from Julius Caesar, who had his own reasons for branding the Druids the way he did.

https://latinitium.com/latin-book-club-julius-caesar-and-the-druids

We know little to nothing about the actual rites, rituals and religious practices of the Druids, however there are groups today who claim to be practicing Druids, with all kinds of rituals and rites they have essentially made up. This has “poisoned the well” of knowledge, so to speak, when looking for good information, because you will find all this made up crap. And since WE know that many so-called “credible” sources have ulterior motivations, even the “scholarly” sources are suspect.

This fascination and reverence for tribal religions also spills over onto things like voodoo and Santeria, another animal-sacrifice religion. There appears to be a sort of “glossy magazine cover” version of these. So, when the researcher goes after real facts, they can be hard to uncover. I have personally seen this in people I know; they become enthralled with the New Orleans voodoo culture, for example, and the scarier parts of it fade to the background. They see the “lighter side,” and ignore the darkness.

I write this only as a warning to you all about digging into this subject. Because it is being “sugar-coated,” it can appear harmless, or at least not nearly as scary as it is.

STOP READING HERE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO READ SOME SCARY PARTS.

For me, the most frightening aspect of voodoo isn’t the animal sacrifice. It is the vacating of the human body to allow for possession by a loa/lwa spirit. This is common in voodoo. They consider the person thus inhabited as the chwal (“horse”) of the loa spirit, that it is “riding.” This kind of thing happens all the time; special ritual or sacrifice is not necessary for the possession to occur.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/j.ctv2t4d7f.16.pdf%3Frefreqid%3Dexcelsior%253A9a59400679b2fb871c3dd74fbe145b44&ved=2ahUKEwjWmML14cCIAxW_weYEHQPIKjUQFnoECBcQAw&usg=AOvVaw1jZKtnNiscQlxJeUIcckXx

The reason why I find this particularly disturbing is, what will happen in our liberal courts when someone claims to have been “possessed” by a loa during the commission of some crime or another? For example, one of the results of loa possession:

“Simpson has noted that in normal, everyday life, there is “considerable sexual modesty among the peasants.”37 The picture changes radically during possession experiences. Huxley writes of the “sexual megalomania” that characterizes many possessions.38 Possessed persons often have to be restrained from taking off their clothes to go naked. Courlander writes of the contempt for proprieties and of the lascivious and lurid behavior and speech of some loa.39 Behavior that would be quite unacceptable to the community and even to the possessed person himself is excused because the loa — not the person being possessed — is responsible for unacceptable behavior and speech.”

https://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/voodoo.htm

This is a religious avenue for irresponsibility for one’s actions. America was founded on freedom of religion, but I doubt if this is what the Founders had in mind.

SCARY PART OVER

If you choose to delve into research of any occult religion, be aware that many so-called “Neopagans” have co-opted and bastardized real practices into their own forms. Our society is currently very, very sick with what seems like “cult fever” to me. So many people have rejected Christianity for some flavor of tribal religion that they know very little about. They just make it up as they go along, and it all ends up posted somewhere on the internet.

I am going to sign off with this:

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done; on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

Medicinal Cordials Open Thread: Health Friday 2024.09.13

The above image of vintage pharmacy bottles for medicinal cordials is courtesy of Wikipedia.

Today’s post is one of a series, Health Friday, related to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. However, the discussion in these posts is not limited to what is presented: it is an Open Thread.

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Today’s offering for Health Friday is one of a “slightly different path” — it regards Medicinal Cordials. It is a fascinating history that traces at least as far back to Italy during the 15th and 16th Centuries (the Renaissance period.) At that time, medicinal cordials were created and sold by apothecaries (what would now be called Pharmacists.) The craft spread quickly among western European countries (France, Spain, Germany, and England.) Medicinal cordials were originally used to “release” diseases from the body of the patient; to assist in the “renewal” of the diseased body, mind, and spirit; and, to “renew the natural heat” of the body. There were medicinal cordials that had flecks of gold. crushed pearls, or crushed coral added to them, as these items were thought to “assist” the mechanism of the drink. Medicinal cordials eventually “evolved” along two paths: One, into what became “patent medicines”; and, Two, into what are now called “digestifs” and non-medicinal cordials or liqueurs. A “separate” path of development produced a kind of “medicinal beer.” Some medicinal cordials had no alcoholic content at all; others had varying amounts of alcohol content. Some medicinal cordials were made from flowers and spices; others contained herbs and wood derivatives; still others were made of only from herbs and spices. They were (and, along with their modern-day versions of liqueurs, still are), distinct from “fortified wines”, such as Sherry or Vermouth; and, from certain other types of “alcohol + derived ingredient drinks”, such as Ouzo. There are “modern-day” types of “medicinal cordials” available: for example, https://texasmedicinals.com/, which produces and sells various cordials tinctures and elixirs made of flowers, herbs, and spices.

Certain orders of Roman Catholic monks were also involved in the making and providing of medicinal cordials. The famous cross between a medicinal cordial and a “digestif”, D.O.M. Benedictine, was first created by the Benedictine monks at the Abbey of Fecamp, France, in 1510. A French merchant, Alexandre Le Grand, found the original recipe in 1863 (it had been considered lost), and eventually recreated it as the drink sold today. Please see: https://wineanthology.com/1943-benedictine-dom-liqueur. The current product is no longer strictly a “medicinal cordial”, but is a liqueur. The exact ingredients are a secret, but the mixture is believed to contain hyssop, juniper, aloe, and cinnamon, among others. Please see: www.catalystplanet.com/travel-and-social-action-stories/2022/04/12/5-alcoholic-drinks-made-by-european-monks.

Then, there is Chartreuse, first created by the Carthusian monks of the Grande Chartreuse Monastery near Grenoble, France. A blend of distilled alcohol and 130 other ingredients (herbs and flowers among them), it is also no longer strictly a “medicinal cordial”, but a liqueur. (However, along with D.O.M. Benedictine, Chartreuse is still considered to have medicinal properties.) Chartreuse is available in “yellow” or “green” hues, which are different in their alcohol content. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(liqueur). There is also a version available, Chartreuse Vegetal, that is 138-Proof (www.luekensliquors.com/), search “Chartreuse Vegetal.” There are some websites that claim to have the ingredients of the recipe for Chartreuse; other websites have instructions on how to create a kind of “clone” of the recipe.

The Christian Brothers (originally, the De La Salle Christian Brothers), another Roman Catholic religious order of monks, began to grow and produce wines in the Martinez area of California around 1880. They expanded to include vineyards and wineries in the Napa Valley. They now produce altar wines for use in the Mass, and certain types of Brandy. They do not produce medicinal cordials or liqueurs. Please see: www.montlasallealtarwines.com/forms/MLS_History.pdf.

Drambuie, a whisky-based liqueur made in Scotland, is thought to have been created by “Bonnie Prince Charlie” (Prince Charles Edward Stewart) in 1745. A blend of malt whisky, honey, herbs, and spices, it was used as a medicinal cordial. The modern-day product is a Scottish whisky-based liqueur. Please see: www.thespruceeats.com/drambuie-liqeueur-profile-and-cocktals-760270.

Among other types of liqueurs, there are ones made of mostly flower or flower-herb bases. Some of these were originally used as “medicinal cordials.” Modern-day examples are: Vespetro (Italy); Becherovka Original (Czech Republic); St.-Germain Elder Flower Liqueur (France); and, American Elderberry Cordial (Missouri; no alcohol.)

And, yes, there is a kind of “medicinal beer” — Trappist beer, made by Trappist (Cistercian) monks. There are only a handful of Trappist monasteries that brew authentic Trappist beer or ale; they are governed by the International Trappist Association (ITA.) The recipe, a secret known only to a few of the monks, is thought to include herbs and spices. There is a “light” and a “dark” version of Trappist beer or ale (https://beerconnoisseur.com/articles/almighty-trappist-ale.) It is thought that the brew contains certain spices, such as cinnamon and coriander, in the mixture. For persons interested in making a “home-brew Trappist-style version” of the product, please see: https://beersmith.com/blog/2010/09/01/trappist-dubbel-and-tripel-recipes/.

However, there was a “darker side” to medicinal cordials — those that were used to quiet restless or ill babies and children. These were actually “patent medicines”; two such products were “Godfrey’s Cordial” and “Dalby’s Carminative.” They were used in England and the United States during the 18th and early 19th Centuries. The main ingredient of each of these “cordials” was opium — “Godfrey’s Cordial” had one ounce of opium for each two ounces of the product; “Dalby’s Carminative” contained 1/4 ounce of opium for each two ounces of the product. The number of babies and children who died from taking these products is not known. In addition, there was the original recipe for “Creme de Noyaux”, from Yvelines, France. This “cordial”, made from apricot or peach kernels, or cherry pits, could accumulate trace amounts of hydrogen cyanide (a poison.) The longer this “cordial” was kept in storage, the greater the potential for the hydrogen cyanide to accumulate and collect at the top of the bottle — an unsuspecting imbiber could be badly poisoned upon taking a glass of it. The recipe was re-formulated a few years ago by the Tempus Fugit company to remove all traces of the poison. (This formulation would appear to be the “safest” for Creme de Noyaux.)

There are sources online that can assist interested persons who wish to create cordials or liqueurs at home. One source is here: https://theherbalacademy.com/. Another source (which also has a history of medicinal cordials) is here: https://traditionalroots.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Herbal-Cordials-and-Liqueurs-2_16.pdf, by Glen Nagel, ND (Naturopathic Doctor.) Here is an image of an Alembic Still, used to create home-made cordials or liqueurs (courtesy of Glen Nagel):

Interested persons should note that taking modern-day “versions” of medicinal cordials or liqueurs does not replace consulting a healthcare practitioner regarding health concerns; also, they should also investigate ingredients in home-made “medicinal cordials or liqueurs” to make sure none of them would interact with any prescription drugs, OTC drugs, and/or other herbals that the person is already taking. For example, the Gentian used in this home-made herbal “cordial” can interact with prescription drugs for high blood pressure, as Gentian is may lower blood pressure (www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-716/gentian, click on “Interactions.”)

Cordials glasses are usually small and hold no more than 2 to 4 ounces of the cordial. They are used to serve the drink at room temperature or chilled, and usually without other items mixed in. Some types of cordials glasses are also used to serve liqueurs. An example of vintage cranberry red cordials glasses is below, courtesy of https://rustedlove.com/:

Due to the varying alcohol content of cordials or liqueurs, and to their unique flavors, the modern-day versions of these products are often added to mixed drinks.

Ad Salutem Tuam!

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God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


The Rich Fool

The Parable of the Rich Fool can be found in Luke 12:13–21. The key to understanding this parable is in verse 15 (and later summarized in verse 21). Luke 12:15 says, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” Jesus says this to the man who asked Him to arbitrate between him and his brother. In ancient times, the firstborn was guaranteed a double portion of the family inheritance. More than likely, the brother who was addressing Jesus was not the firstborn and was asking for an equal share of the inheritance. Jesus refuses to arbitrate their dispute and gets to the heart of the matter: Covetousness! Jesus warns this person, and all within earshot, that our lives are not to be about gathering wealth. Life is so much more than the “abundance of possessions.”

Jesus proceeds to tell the man the Parable of the Rich Fool. This person was materially blessed by God; his land “produced plentifully” (verse 16). As God continued to bless the man, instead of using his increase to further the will of God, all he was interested in was managing his increase and accumulating his growing wealth. So the man builds larger barns in place of the existing ones and starts planning an early retirement. Unbeknownst to him, this was his last night on planet earth. Jesus then closes the story by saying, “So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”

So the point of the Parable of the Rich Fool is twofold. First, we are not to devote our lives to the gathering and accumulation of wealth. There is an interesting point made in the parable. God says to the man in the story, “And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?” This echoes the thought expressed in Ecclesiastes 2:18 (“I hated all my toil in which I toil under the sun, seeing that I must leave it to the man who will come after me”). You see it all the time in people who are singularly devoted to the accumulation of wealth. What happens to all that wealth when they die? It gets left behind to others who didn’t earn it and won’t appreciate it. Furthermore, if money is your master, that means God is not (Matthew 6:24).

The second point of the Parable of the Rich Fool is the fact that we are not blessed by God to hoard our wealth to ourselves. We are blessed to be a blessing in the lives of others, and we are blessed to build the kingdom of God. The Bible says if our riches increase, we are not to set our hearts upon them (Psalm 62:10). The Bible also says there is one who gives freely and grows all the richer (Proverbs 11:24). Finally, the Bible says we are to honor God with the first fruits of our increase (Proverbs 3:9–10). The point is clear; if we honor God with what He has given us, He will bless with more so that we can honor Him with more. There is a passage in 2 Corinthians that summarizes this aptly (2 Corinthians 9:6–15). In that passage Paul says, “And God is able to provide you with every blessing in abundance, so that having all contentment in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.” We are blessed by God, so we can in turn “abound in every good work” and be a blessing in the lives of others. So, if God has blessed you with material wealth “set not your heart on it” and “be rich toward God.” That’s the message of the Parable of the Rich Fool.
https://www.gotquestions.org/parable-rich-fool.html

Dear KMAG Health Friday Open Thread: The COVID-19 “Vaccines” Induce ME/CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome): A Response to Steve Kirsch

The above vintage image of a tired woman is courtesy of QuoteGram, via Google Images.

Today’s Health Friday post, as it relates to COVID-19 and the COVID-19 “vaccines”, is dedicated to the memory of Yours Truly’s cousin Bill, who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023. Health Friday is a series of offerings related to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. However, the discussion is not limited to what is presented today: It is an Open Thread.

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Dear Mr. Steve Kirsch:

Greetings. The writer of this post is a regular reader of your Substack site. Many thanks for all your efforts in exposing the truth about the COVID-19 “vaccines.” This is a response to your blog post of 30 August 2024, The COVID shots are fueling the rise of ME/CFS cases. While it is true that ME/CFS can present symptoms that are similar to that of “Long COVID”, I suspect that there may well be other items in play. To start, I am including an image of the VAERS chart that is in your blog post:

The incidence reports of CFS (ME/CFS) after taking COVID-19 “vaccines” far outstrips all of the other vaccines listed.

The Statement from the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut on “Post-Vac Syndrome” after COVID-19 Vaccination, regarding the PEI study mentioned in your post: www.pei.de/EN/newsroom/positions/covid-19-vaccines/statement-postvac.html, of 19 May 2023, has this (a portion of the screenshot):

I note that the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut is an agency of the German federal government. It is the equivalent to the FDA in the United States.

ME/CFS (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis / Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also called Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome), is a medical condition that is difficult to diagnose and to treat: see Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, per Wikipedia. For years, the condition has eluded efforts to isolate and identify elements that cause it; until fairly recently, only the presenting symptoms were recognized and treated: www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360490; and, www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20360510. However, there have been recent discoveries that relate to one potential element in ME/CFS: mitochondrial dysfunction that interferes with a protein called WASF3. It appears that high levels of WASF3 can create what may be called a “cellular energy deficit”, which, in turn, can create fatigue. One example of the research on this is here: www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2302738120, WASF3 disrupts mitochondrial respiration and may mediate exercise intolerance in myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, Paul H. Hwang, et al., 14 August 2023. WASF3 is a component of the Human Chromosome 13: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Genes_on_human_chromosome_13, click on “Next Page” at the bottom of the A-U alphabetical list of proteins on the article.

ME/CFS conditions existed well before either the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus itself, or the COVID-19 “vaccines” — per Wikipedia, Dr. Melvin Ramsay “published the first diagnostic criteria for ME” (Myalgic encephalomyelitis) in 1986. (Wikipedia search “history of ME/CFS”) However, cases of ME/CFS began to present in otherwise healthy people after they contracted a case of COVID-19 early on in the COVID-19 pandemic (before the COVID-19 “vaccines” were in use.) One such case is summarized here, in the Yale Medicine blog: Long COVID, ME/CFS and the Importance of Studying Infection-Associated Illnesses, 13 May 2024, by Osman Moneer. Below is a screenshot from the article:

Note: “Dr. Deborah F.” is not her real name.

There also may be a link between ME/CFS, Long COVID, and negative emotional-psychological outcomes: Infections, ME/CFS, Long COVID and Psychosis: Is There a Link?, 16 July 2023, by Cort Johnson. A screenshot from part of The Gist section of the article is below:

This opens up the question, What is in the COVID-19 virus itself, and therefore in the COVID-19 “vaccines”, that can induce ME/CFS (Post-viral Fatigue)? Yours Truly turns to the report that Pfizer-BioNTech gave to the FDA on 30 April 2021, regarding post-authorization Adverse Event Reports submitted to the company in people who took the first injection of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” BNT162b2, between 12 December 2020 (the date on which the FDA granted the initial authorization for BNT162b2 to be used in the United States) and 28 February 2021. The report is here, via FOIA release: www.phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/reissue_5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf. Page 30 of this report is the APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST. This is a nine-page listing of over 1,200 serious Adverse Events that occurred in people who were “vaccinated” with BNT162b2 during the report period. Page one of this list has two types of damage to the mitochondria reported: “Alanine aminotransferase increased”; and, “Antimitochondrial antibody positive”. Page three lists “Chronic fatigue syndrome.” Page five lists “Immune-mediated encephalitis” and “Immune-mediated encephalopathy.” Page seven lists “Post viral fatigue syndrome.” In other words, at least six types of mitochondrial, neurological. or “body-wide” issues that are induced by modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines”, which can present in various forms, including CFS or ME/CFS.

There is also a link between the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) and the COVID-19 “vaccines.” EBV can be an “adjunct” presenting condition related to ME/CFS. Yours Truly found one paper, by Japanese researchers, on EBV presenting after “vaccination” with BNT162b2 (the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccine”, [Epstein-Barr virus-associated lymphoproliferative disorders after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination], from 2023. Only the Abstract is available in English. It is below:

It is now known that the COVID-19 “vaccines” (actually, gene therapy injections) do the following to the “vaccinated” person’s body:

Cross the Blood-Brain barrier (BBB); interfere with / damage / destroy mitochondrial elements and mechanisms; can induce negative effects / interfere with neurological elements and mechanisms; can induce onset of psychological issues, including psychosis; interfere with / damage or destroy, elements and mechanisms of the natural immune system (citations below.) These negative effects, in Yours Truly’s opinion, all have a bearing on the causation and presentation of COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced or aggravated ME/CFS. In order for these to occur, again in Yours Truly’s opinion, certain specific elements had to have been “inserted” into the lab-created SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus itself (and, by extension, into the lab-enhanced COVID-19 “vaccines”) to induce these types of damage. Perhaps it was a specific element that interacts with the WASF3 protein; perhaps it was a specific element that interacts with a component of the Epstein-Barr virus. Perhaps it was a specific element that interacts / interferes with other aspects of Human Chromosome 13. Perhaps it was all of these. I believe that ongoing research into the actual ingredients of the modRNA of the COVID-19 “vaccines” will eventually reveal the answers.

In addition, there are the following lipid nanoparticle (LNP) ingredients in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines”:

For the Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccines”: ALC-0159, ALC-0315, and PEG2000-DMG; for the Moderna “vaccines”: SM-102, ALC-0315, and PEG2000-DMG. All of these lipid nanoparticles are dangerous. All of them are to be used for research only, not for use in diagnosis or therapeutics for humans or for animals. All of them specifically “evade” the “vaccinated” person’s natural immune system’s “Are you a friend or a foe?” recognition and elimination mechanisms. They facilitate “access” of the ingredients and mechanisms of these modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” to induce damage / destruction of the IgG3 “fight it off” immune system cells in the “vaccinated” person’s body; and, at the same time, to increase the amount of IgG4 “tolerate and never clear” immune system cells. This process is called the “Class Switch” done by the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” (Citations below.)

In Summary: The COVID-19 virus itself can induce multiple negative medical effects on persons who contract an infection of the virus, including ME/CFS. The COVID-19 “vaccines”, which contain elements of the COVID-19 virus itself (in addition to other lab “enhancements” for these “vaccines”, such as the lipid nanoparticles), can therefore also induce multiple negative medical effects in persons who take these injectables, including ME/CFS. In addition, both the COVID-19 virus itself, and, by extension, the COVID-19 “vaccines”, can induce and/or aggravate negative psychological conditions. I believe that these “vaccines” need to be banned outright immediately and removed from the market across the world, until and unless such time they are completely reformulated and thoroughly tested (including testing by independent labs) for human safety, efficacy, toxicity, mutagenesis potential, and reproductive effects potential.

It is my opinion that: One, that all people, COVID-19 “vaccinated” or not, follow a personal program to acquire and maintain the highest degree of natural immune system health as possible; and, Two, that all people investigate any vaccine that is recommended (or “mandated”), then, to decide whether or not to take the injectable(s.)

Citations regarding the In Summary above, the lipid nanoparticles, and the “Class Switch”:

Lipid nanoparticles: ALC-0159: https://cdn.caymanchem.com/cdn/msds/34336m.pdf; ALC-0315: https://cdn.caymanchem.com/cdn/msds/34337m.pdf; SM-102: https://cdn.caymanchem.com/cdn/msds/33474m.pdf; PEG2000-DMG: https://cdn.caymanchem.com/cdn/msds/33945m.pdf. Please see Application of the Substance / the mixture on page one of these Safety Sheets.

Crossing the Blood-Brain Barrier: Adverse effects of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: the spike hypothesis, Ioannis Trougakis, et al., 21 April 2022.

Mitochondrial damage: SARS-CoV-2 and the spike protein in endotheliopathy, Luca Perico, et al., 12 June 2023; and, www.theqtree.com/2023/10/28/the-covid-19-virus-and-the-modrna-covid-19-vaccines-induce-accelerated-aging/.

Neurological side effects: A review of neurological side effects of COVID-19 vaccination, Roya Hosseini and Nayere Askari, 25 February 2023. And, COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced psychosis: First Episode Psychosis Following the COVID-19 Vaccination – A Case Series. Tonka Borovina, et al., 18 May 2022.

The IgG3 – IgG4 “Class Switch”: IgG4, CD4s and why the LNP/mRNA platform should be prohibited, Jessica Rose, PhD, 14 August 2023.

Thank you for your time, Mr. Kirsch. Sincerely, with Peace, Good Energy, and Respect: PAVACA

Dear KMAG 2024904 – The Rothschilds & Open Thread

I should note I was unaware the Rothschilds were Ashkenazi when I wrote about the Khazars.

Let’s start with WIKI:

The Rothschild family  is a wealthy AshkenaziJewish noble banking family originally from Frankfurt. The family’s documented history starts in 16th century Frankfurt; its name is derived from the family house, Rothschild, built by Isaak Elchanan Bacharach in Frankfurt in 1567. The family rose to prominence with Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812), a court factor to the German Landgraves of Hesse-Kassel in the Free City of Frankfurt, Holy Roman Empire, who established his banking business in the 1760s. Unlike most previous court factors, Rothschild managed to bequeath his wealth and established an international banking family through his five sons, who established businesses in Paris, Frankfurt, London, Vienna, and Naples. The family was elevated to noble rank in the Holy Roman Empire and the United Kingdom.

During the 19th century, the Rothschild family possessed the largest private fortune in the world, as well as in modern world history. The family’s wealth declined over the 20th century, and was divided among many descendants. Today, their interests cover a diverse range of fields, including financial services, real estate, mining, energy, agriculture, winemaking, and nonprofits. Many examples of the family’s rural architecture exist across northwestern Europe. 👉The Rothschild family has frequently been the subject of conspiracy theories, many of which have antisemitic origins...👈


ANTISEMITIC, Such a very, very, useful weapon to bash people with… If you want to know who your masters are, see who you can not criticize.

Next let’s look at this article.

The Author, David Mcdonald “…is the founder of The Global Millennial: a think-tank millennials a platform to freely express their ideas on the world…. The Global Millennial is a think-tank for global economic discussion. Our goal is to bring educated, relevant, and unique perspectives on global affairs through the form of articles and video. Our writers span all areas of the globe and vary greatly in age and expertise. Some of our writers are university students, while others are accomplished professors and economists. Together, we aim to promote a more educated future by providing a greater knowledge around the studies of economics and political science.” It is a Canadian site.

The Rothschild Family: An Evil Dynasty Poised to Rule the World, Or Just Simply a Banking Powerhouse?

Although it is an ‘approved’ viewpoint. It has a few very interesting bits:

….What many don’t know is that Mayer A. Rothschild pre-arranged marriages within the family. Meaning he ensured that the female members of the family were very limited in their marriage options when it came to getting their inheritance. The only way for them to make sure that they would be getting money in the future was by marrying their cousins…

The Napoleon Wars

 ..the Rothschild’s, they were situated throughout Europe by the beginning of the 19th century, giving them a paramount influence on how the war played out… It was during this time that the Rothschild family established themselves as the richest, most elite family on the planet.

During the war,👉 the Austrian army and British forces contracted Mayer Rothschild to supply them with a range of items including wheat, uniforms, horses, and equipment.👈 [ Military-industrial complex anyone? -GC] Along with this, they arranged the payment of British financial subsidies to their continental allies. The family wealth grew enormously through the commissions earned on these transactions.

Arguably their greatest move during the Napoleonic wars was the stock manipulation of the Waterloo war in June of 1815. During the war, speculators watched rothschild’s stocks in an attempt to guess who would win. Shortly after the battle ended, and long before anyone else knew who was the victor, they began selling stocks. Everyone assumed this mean Napoleon had won and Europe had lost. panic selling ensued. When prices crashed, Rothschild bought everything in sight and made exuberant profits…

Their Influence on European Industrialisation

Given their geographical banking control and massive wealth throughout the 19th century, the Rothschild family pioneered international high finance during the industrialisation of Europe and were instrumental in supporting railway systems across the world and in complex government financing for projects such as the Suez Canal.

The Suez Canal was another immensely profitable investment by the Rothschild family…

British recognised the canal as an important trade route, they objected to the use of forced Egyptian labour to build it, and perceived the French project as a threat to their geopolitical and financial interests.

So, over a span of eleven years, starting on December 15th, 1858 the Suez canal was built. The Rothschild’s basically owned the British banking system at the time since they funded all prior British war efforts throughout the 19th century. Thus, In 1875, the London banking house of N M Rothschild & Sons advanced the Prime Minister, Benjamin Disraeli. They effectively acted for the British Government, and paid a sum of £4,000,000 to purchase Suez Canal shares. Disraeli was a close personal friend of Lionel de Rothschild, and according to legend, this was transacted on a gentleman’s agreement, with no documentation, a technically unsecured loan for a sum of over £550 million today.

Basically, England recognized the huge economical gain of purchasing shares in this trans-continental shipping route, but they did not want to be recognized for supporting the forced labour (slavery) that was implemented in order to build the canal….


However he ends with:

There is no disputing that the Rothschild’s influence on the European banking world has been the most influential impact any family has ever made on modern day finance in history. They had a vision to conduct banking branches all throughout Europe, and they accomplished this. I don’t think this makes them the evil rulers of the world however. I think that they took advantage of the tools they possessed, and they became rich because of it.

The Rothschild’s pose little to no threat to social stability in the future. They simply control a chain of banks throughout Europe that are quite wealthy.

A missing point in Mcdonald’s article:

Nathan Rothschild funded the Napoleonic Wars.


…Nathan knew Napoleon had lost the Battle of Waterloo before the English monarchy. With this information in hand, Nathan spread the rumor that Napoleon had won and that everyone on the English Stock Market should start selling their useless English money. Rothchilds’ agents were then able to purchase nearly the entire English Stock Market at incredibly low prices, thus controlling the entire English market before everyone found out that England, in reality, had beaten Napoleon.
As of 2015, the English government is still paying back money owed to the Rothschild family from this Napoleonic fraud…

That article has since been re-written and updated as of Aug, 1 2024. All mention of the English government owing the Rothschilds money is gone. The current author is Jennifer L. Cook who got her start in editorial work in London as a researcher for three industrial relations journals. Education: University of California at Santa Cruz.

Interesting the article now has a ‘Fast Fact’ inserted:

The Rothschild family have been the subject of many conspiracy theories. Many of these conspiracy theories are rooted in anti-semitic prejudice.

GEE, where have I heard that before? 🤔

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Then there is the other viewpoint of the Rothschilds.


The Rothschild’s Global Crime Syndicate and How It Works

(Sorry the image is not clear. It is an archived image.)

..Behind the scenes, the Rothschild dynasty is unquestionably the most powerful bloodline on Earth and their estimated wealth exceeds $500 trillion. They own the entire financial system. This mind-blowing scope of control functions as follows; The Rothschilds sit at the top of their pyramid-structured organisation, literally running the entire financial world with about eight thousand selected members. Although it is difficult to fully investigate and verify, Rothschild may share his ultimate power with the House of Saud and the Soros family, and on lower levels with some other banking families, as will be explained later.

The Rothschilds have set up the world’s financial institutions making sure they literally receive 90% of the generated interest paid by the populace at large. These criminals are Luciferians while on the surface, for easier public consumption, they have dubbed their religion Zionism. In truth, they worship Lucifer, which includes satanic ritual abuse, including paedophilia and the sacrifice of children… [GEE, I do not think they like the Rothschilds. -GC]

On the second echelon of the power structure, sits Rothschild’s fully owned BIS – Bank of International Settlement  established in 1931 in the Netherlands. Headquartered in Basel -Switzerland, and is recognised by all counties as being the top bank of all financial institutions on the world. Every Central Bank is a member of the BIS-bank. They have a civil organisation agreement for total immunity, and enjoy immunity from all worldly laws and rules, so no one can attack them. Basel, where the Babylon style BIS-Tower is located was the location where the Nazis, during WW2 met to trade the stolen Jewish gold. The BIS issues instructions to all other financial institutions across the entire globe.

On the third echelon, directly below the BIS are the Rothschild-owned IMF – International Monetary Fund – and World Bank. The IRS and similar tax-collecting agencies in other countries, are structured as a foreign, private corporation of the IMF and forms the private “army” of the Federal Reserve – Fed – and all other Central Banks. The main objective is to make sure the people pay their taxes and always remain useful slaves. Their sole devotion is to enslave entire countries and their populaces through their criminal debt money system…


para59r last Wednesday brought in some solid evidence that suggests the Rothschilds are SATANIC rather than benign. LINK


Oh and of course she didn’t mind people associating Baphomet with Satanism. The Rothchild’s loved that sort of thing.”

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ROTHSCHILD AND KARL MARX

I am going to try and keep this brief. See my old comment HERE

Marxism is the Brainchild of the Banksters and Aristocracy. The Federal Reserve: An Astounding Exposure 1934 shows the US Banks FUNDED the Bolshevik Revolution. Heck The Bronx Home News was straightforward with their headline: BRONX MAN LEADS RUSSIAN REVOLUTION. LINK

Marx was born into the Jewish business class. His father was a lawyer, for businesses, and he owned vinyards. His maternal grandfather was a textile merchant and banker. His grandmother’s first cousin married Nathan Rothschild, founder of the British branch of the Rothschild banking dynasty. Lion Philips’ brother Benjamin was a “banker and industrialist”. Lion’s son Frederick was a banker. Marx’s uncle Lion Philips died in 1866. He was a tobacco merchant. Philips Electric was founded in 1891 by Lion Philips’ grandchildren, with help from their father (a banker). — SOURCE DEAD

Alternate:

One of Marx’s grandparents was Nanette Salomon Barent-Cohen, who belonged to a wealthy Amsterdam family. Her cousin had married Nathan Mayer Rothschild and bore Lionel Nathan Rothschild, “Baron” and Member of Parliament for the City of London. — Historians Confirm Karl Marx Was Employed By The Rothschilds

SxyxS says on March 17, 2017 at 12:05 am at Tony Heller’s website:

Well, of course it was the middle class Marx was against.


Marx secretary Pieper was at the same time employed [by] the Rothschild[s].
When the Rothschild[s] left Frankfurt they went to Paris (the first place Marx lived in Exile)
and London (the second exile home of Marx).

Marx was never about freeing people, but to turn all human beings except that at the top to the lowest common level = the proletarian.
A system where only 3 classes exist:
The very few at the top: Stalin/Lenin (Rockfeller/Rothschild)
Their well paid serve[r]s = Stasi/Apparatchicks to controle and indoctrinate

and the rest (95%) that is controlled and killed by the Stasi…

Before communism even started taking over countries they had a master plan in how to controle people – that’s why they”d been able to take and keep power.

And even after they failed with their revolution in 1905 in Russia, the Jacob Schiff & Kuhn/Loeb bank (co owners of the FED) paid Japan to make war on Russia to weaken the country for the second revolution.

And if you take a closer look at the Chinese communist revolution you’ll find out
that the people who were destroying China with the Opium Wars (and created HSBC bank for drug money laundering) belonged to the very same group the non-chinese communists belonged to.

Ideologies are mind prisons created by few smart people for the many dumb and communism is the king of them all, as communism has the perfect camouflage. Disguised as good doer.
So perfect that it was the first ideologie to be able to kill their own people & culture of a country on an epic scale and getting away with it.
A gift that keeps on killing- They just exchanged God for “The central state” made Karl Marx the Messiah and Lenin/Stalin etc the apostles.

To put it bluntly, Marx and Engel saw the masses as scum.

Marx & Friends in their own words

Marx and Engels, 14. August 1879

(German)

“Als wir heut morgen im Hôtel de l’Europe anfrugen, traf es sich glücklich so, daß grade 60 Franzosen sich auf die Abreise vorbereiteten, während andrerseits die mit frischem Menschenkehricht belasteten steamers noch nicht eingetroffen.”

(English)

“When this morning we inquired at the Hotel de l’Europe, fortunately it so happened that 60 Frenchmen were preparing to leave, while on the other hand the steam ships loaded with fresh human debris [schiff] had not arrived yet.”


Google translate:


“When we asked at the Hôtel de l’Europe this morning, it fortunately happened that 60 Frenchmen were preparing to leave, while on the other hand the steamers laden with fresh human waste had not yet arrived.”


ALSO FROM THE SAME SITE:

MARX PRIVATELY ADMITS HIS OWN JEWISH ORIGINS AND RIDICULES DISRAELI’S ANGLICANISM

(In a letter to his uncle)

Marx to Lion Philips, November 29, 1864: “At a public meeting this week the fellow-member of our race Benjamin Disraeli has again made a dreadful laughing-stock of himself by assuming the mantle of guardian angel of the High Church and Church rates, repudiating criticism in religious affairs. He furnishes the best evidence of how a great talent unaccompanied by conviction creates rogues, albeit gold-braided and ‘Right Honorable’ ones.”

Context here

The German
Marx and Lion Philips, 29. November 1864

„unser Stammesgenosse Benjamin Disraeli hat sich in dieser Woche wieder sehr blamiert, indem er als warnender Schutzengel der high church, der church rates und als Abwehrer gegen Kritik in religiösen Dingen sich auf einem öffentlichen Meeting breitmachte. Er ist der beste Beweis, wie großes Talent ohne Überzeugung Lumpen schafft (…)“


Google Translate:

“Our fellow tribesman Benjamin Disraeli has once again made a great fool of himself this week by appearing at a public meeting as a warning guardian angel of the high church, the church councils and as a defender against criticism in religious matters. He is the best proof of how great talent without conviction creates scoundrels (…)”


As Q said REMEMBER THE NAMES. Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli is one to remember.

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ROTHSCHILD & FABIAN SOCIETY <- THIS IS KEY!!!


Fabian co-founders the Webbs founded the London School of economics with a bit of financial help from Nathan Rothschild.


In her autobiography, Our Partnership, Mrs. Webb reveals how she and her husband were helped to finance the London School of Economics by the Rothschilds, Sir Julius Wernher, and similar financiers. — The Fabian Socialist Contribution to the Communist Advance


And similar financiers…


In 1895, Sidney Webb founded the London School of Economics, which became a branch of the University of London. Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist magazine New Republic. — The Fabians, the Round Table, and the Rhodes Scholars

Notice that yet again the Rothschilds are ‘protected’ by being left out.



Our propaganda is one of permeating – we urged our members to join the Liberal and Radical Associations in their district, or, if they preferred it, the Conservative Associations – we permeated the party organizations and pulled all the strings we could lay our hands on with the utmost adroitness and energy, and we succeeded so well that in 1888 we gained the solid advantage of a Progressive majority full of ideas that would never have come into their heads had not the Fabians put them there.”

George Bernard Shaw 


Wiki’s List of people associated with the London School of Economics shows just how dangerous this school is.


Modern History Project — The Fabian Strategy

On October 24, 1883, in London, a group of 17 wealthy Socialists gathered to discuss a ‘Fellowship of the New Life,’ which was based on the writings of scholar Thomas Davidson, who hoped to start some sort of monastic order.[List of names] Some of these people were also members of the Society for Psychichal Research, [Balfour, Arthur J.   (Officer of, 1882 to 1930)] an organization dedicated to spiritualism research, which was founded in 1882.

The aims of the Fabian Society were developed by Webb from what Englishman John Ruskin (1819-1900) taught at Oxford University. Ruskin, a teacher at the Working Men’s College (founded in 1854 by Christian-Socialist philosopher J. F. D. Maurice), a professor of Fine Arts at Oxford, an artist and writer, based his views on those of Socialist Robert Owen. He advocated a utopian society, and espoused theories developed from the teachings of Plato (428-347 BC), who had studied under Socrates, and became the greatest philosopher in history. Plato established an academy which operated for 800 years, producing many great men, including Aristotle. In his work, The Republic, he outlined his ideal society, which was an aristocratic society ruled by the elite. It included the elimination of marriage and the family, and introduced selective breeding by the government which would destroy all inferior offspring. In Plato’s utopia, sexual equality dictated that women would fight alongside the men in times of war. [Sound familiar?]

The Fabians were working towards a new world by indoctrinating young scholars who would eventually rise to power in various policy-making positions throughout the world by infiltrating educational institutions, government agencies, and political parties. Their strategy was called the “doctrine of inevitability of gradualism,” which meant that their goals would be gradually achieved. So gradual, that nobody would notice, or “without breach of continuity or abrupt change of the entire social issue.” The secret was evolution, not revolution, or what Webb called “permeation.” Shaw (whose mistress, Florence Farr, was a witch in the Order of the Golden Dawn), revealed that their goal was to be achieved by “stealth, intrigue, subversion, and the deception of never calling Socialism by its right name.” …

I am not going to get into detail about Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodes Scholarships. (Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar.)

Just a few tidbits:

Cecil Rhodes wanted to make Africa a “British dominion from the Cape to Cairo.” With the financial support of Nathaniel Mayer Rothschild and Alfred Beit, he was able to control the diamond mines of South Africa. While studing at Oxford he wrote the first of seven wills Each became a separate and legally binding document. In the first he wrote:

“…a secret society with but one object — the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilized world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, (and) for … making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire.”

His seventh and last will, named Nathan Rothschild administrator of his estate, and established an educational grant known as the Rhodes Scholarships at Oxford University (which was controlled by the Fabians). The Scholarships provided a two-year program for young men, and later, women, from the United States, United Kingdom and Germany. There is also the Milner group and the Round Table groups such as as the Council on Foreign Relations — Cribbed from Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodes Scholarships


Matthew Ehret mentions:


“…More cabinet officials under Barack Obama had studied at Oxford and LSE than its American counterparts Yale, Harvard or Princeton (6). This is the essence of the Deep State which has sought to overthrow President Trump ever since he became a serious candidate in the 2016 elections….”


Also of interest is Arthur Balfour of the Balfour-Declaration.


…..who was president of the Society for Psychical Research [Linked to the Fabians, see above. GC] (AC Doyle, William Gladstone) from 1893 and PM of the UK from 1902 to 1905. He was a nephew of Robert Cecil. He was educated at Eton College (under William Johnson, accused of pedophilia) and Trinity College Cambridge like Cecil agent Aleister Crowley… He was a member of the Royal Society and Eugenics Education Society with Oddfellow Winston ChurchillMargaret SangerCyril Burt, Hans Eynsenck (student of Burt), Madison GrantJohn Harvey KelloggRoger Pearson (Order of Malta), John Maynard Keynes, Frederick Osborn (APSPioneer Fund), William Beveride (British Welfare State of the Fabians), Havelock Ellis and Julian Huxley (founder of WWF) as president.


I thought this was bafflegab, but it looks like it is not.

The Cecil Mysteries and Other Crowley Musings

…about midway through we engaged in a discussion of Aleister Crowley and some of his more curious affiliates. I was quite pleased with this section as I felt this may provide a bit of a novel context to Crowley. I haven’t written on Crowley much on this blog over the years in no small part because I didn’t feel like I had much to add on the topic that many others haven’t already said better. But after doing a little research on the Great Beast prior to this chat with fresh eyes, I began making some very curious connections, especially as it relates to the mysterious Cecil family…

The Cecil Family

The Cecil family has been one of the most powerful and influential in British society for nearly five hundred years. The man who turned it into a generations spanning dynasty is William Cecil, 1st Baron Burghley. Cecil was one of the most powerful figures within the court of Elizabeth I, serving twice as as her secretary of stateLord Privy Seal, and Lord High Treasurer. What’s more, while Francis Walsingham tends to get the credit as Elizabeth’s spymaster (and the de facto founder of MI6), he ultimately worked for Cecil.. Upon Walsingham’s death, Cecil firmly took over much of the Elizabethan spy networks. Naturally, Cecil also had an interest in the mystical. He bestowed patronage upon alchemy and corresponded with John Dee, among other things.

The tradition of espionage was carried on by William’s younger son from his second marriage, the hunchbacked Robert Cecil, 1st Earl of Salisbury. Robert inherited his father’s spy network, and became intelligence chief of King James I. There has been much suspicion over the years concerning the role he played in the Gunpowder Plot.

It is the descendants of Robert —the Salisbury line –that he remained a preeminent power in England for centuries. In The Anglo-American Establishment, the always controversial Carroll Quigley described the family’s influence as “all-pervasive in British life since 1886” (pg. 15). Per Quigley, the family’s continual influence was due to three factors: (a) a triple-front penetration of politics, journalism, and education; (b) the recruitment of men of ability and linking them to the Cecil family via marriage, titles, and positions of power; and (c) Cecils and their allies being in positions that are shielded as much as possible from the public gaze….


Who Was Aleister Crowley…Occultist, Satanist, and British Spy? 🤔


…According to Richard Spence’s extensive research into the subject of Aleister Crowley’s connection to government intelligence agencies, Crowley worked as a double agent during WWI for the British government. This leads many people to theorize that he continued his deep undercover role for much of his life. Thus, his time spent in Russia may have been operational. His time in the U.S. may have been instrumental in pulling the U.S. into the war for the British. It seems that he may have also made connections with German spies in the U.S. Likewise, the pro-Irish/anti-British articles and propaganda that Crowley wrote may have helped Crowley secure Germany’s trust during WWII…

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CURRENT information from Strategic Culture.

Ukraine and the Rothschild Family –3/17/ 2015

As the state “withers away”, multinationals go on a rampage — 7/25/2024

Rupert Murdoch: Israel’s most powerful supporter — 7/5/2024


The Murdoch machine comprises well over 100 newspapers – some of them among the world’s most well-known and influential, as well as dozens of TV channels and a formidable publishing empire. This power allows him to set the political agenda across much of the world. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair claimed that Murdoch was an “unofficial member” of his cabinet and that he was one of the four most powerful men in the United Kingdom.


The summer of living dangerously – 6/12/2024 by Pepe Escobar

The plutocracy believes that afterwards they can buy the whole thing for a pittance while flies are still laying eggs in European carcasses.

Why the State of Israel is a Tool of Western Colonial Domination in the Middle East -3/6/20 24 by Eduardo Vasco


Zionism can be considered as fascism adapted to the conditions of the Middle East and the aspirations for domination of Anglo-American imperialism over that region, Eduardo Vasco writes.


From Balfour to Now (1917-2023), Western Duplicity Covers Israeli State Terrorism and Genocide — 10/24/2020 by Finian Cunningham


The cynicism and duplicity of Western governments in the face of an appalling, daily massacre of Palestinian civilians is monstrous.

Hopefully that will provide a lot of information to discuss and chew on. (Please excuse typos, misspellings and formatting bloopers, I got this out as fast as I could.)