Welcome to The Q Tree Forums

The ACTUAL forum is ready for people to begin USING IT.

AND I’M READY.

RULES are minimal, other than basic civility as per HERE, in all forums but ONE.

THE EXPLAINER.


There are THREE types of forums.

  • Main Forums
  • Q&A Forums
  • Test Forums

The number of forums will GROW AS NEEDED in each of the 3 types.

Main Group Forums

The MAIN group is where most posting will be.

Right now, there are FOUR forums in the main group:

  • General Non-Political
  • General Political
  • Article Discussion
  • The U Tree Air B&B

There is a sticky welcome message as a TOPIC in each of these.

General Non-Political

This is the forum to start any topic which does NOT fall into “ranty stuff” – which would be contentious points of religion, culture, and politics.

None of that stuff here, please.

Bring all the nicey-nice stuff here. Also the sads, the personal, and the poignant. GOOD STUFF. Religiously motivating – NOT religiously argumentative.

Do you have a non-political forum or subforum idea? Let me know. Or just try it as a TOPIC or series of topics first. Experiment!

But keep this place NICE and FRIENDLY.

Abortion, euthanasia, desecration, news, libtard insanity and ChiCom mendacity – all of THAT belongs on the next forum.

General Political

This is where to start topics on the FIGHTS in politics, culture, and religion – where most of our normal discussion goes. This is the WAR ROOM. There may be some war here, but it will be CIVIL. So to speak. If it gets out of hand, WE’VE GOT OPTIONS.

Article Discussion

This is where AUTHORS can re-direct commenting on their articles, or where discussion about one or more articles ON THE MAIN SITE can be held.

I will demonstrate this with the commenting for this very article. There is a LINK at the end that leads to the discussion.

The U Tree Air B&B

This is a substitute for MOST of the discussion on the U Tree. Advantage – it’s OURS and not a property of WokePressDotCom. Disadvantage – if you can’t get on the main site, you can’t get on this one, either. So continue to use The Real U Tree to get back in here, when you’re locked out.

Rules will be like The U Tree.

Civility? Shirley, you jest!


Q & A Group Forums

This is where we will put any forums which need to use the special “reddit style” / “tech style” format.

Right now, there are only two forums – regular and test. Our 2 prior test threads are in the TEST forum. People can use that to TEST ideas for this forum group, too.

As we gain experience and people have ideas about something the want to try here, we can add forums. I suspect this won’t get a lot of use, but I could be wrong.


Test Group Forums

This is where I stuck all the old test threads from the different formats EXCEPT Q&A, which don’t really translate to the THREADED format used in both the MAIN GROUP and the TEST GROUP.

The Simplified and Extended tests are now here, in Threaded format. They won’t make a lot of sense that way, unless you keep that conversion in mind. Most of our testing was in the Threaded format, like here, so it all makes sense.

Feel free to TEST USE OF THE SITE HERE. However, try not to encourage discussion here. We want most of the discussion to be on the main board. This is a place to test stuff, then bring it back to the main discussion board.

But if you mess up here, no biggee!

This place is like a quarry where you can shoot guns, blow things up, and try JACKASS stuff, to see if it works.

I could call these the “Hold My Beer, I’m going to try the EXPLODING BACON VIDEO SPOILER” forums.

Test it here – if it works – use it on the main forums. Actually, I don’t really care if you do stuff on the main forums, either, but some people need extra reassurances, and I REALLY REALLY don’t care if the test forums get messed up.


That’s it. Go for it.

Discussion and comments are at the link below. This is a demo. I will close “normal” comments on the article itself.

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/community/articles/comments-welcome-to-the-q-tree-forums/

W

Dear KAG: 20210513 Daily Open Thread

Well, Wednesday was one humdinger of a day.

Soooooo….

On Capitol Hill, as expected, the legacy representative from Wyoming known as Liz Cheney got bounced from a Republican Party leadership position. That position has yet to be filled, and frankly might be vacant for a while.

Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller testified before a House committee and dropped a couple bombshells.

Miller also said that President Trump gave him permission ahead of time to give Mayor Bowser whatever she requested in the way of help. Miller felt he didn’t have to talk to POTUS to act that day.

https://twitter.com/CHHR01/status/1392596687818997761

Oh, and Miller claims he changed his mind on whether or not President Trump incited the whole Capitol invasion.

“You said the insurrection happened because of Trump’s speech,” Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) said during the hearing.

But Miller then tried to walk back his original claims, saying he’d had a change of heart after seeing information from the ongoing criminal investigation into the siege and statements from D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee. He said he now believed there was “some sort of conspiracy where there were organized assault elements that intended to assault the Capitol that day.”

“I’d like to modify my original assessment,” Miller said, to which Lynch snarked,” Why am I not surprised about that?”

“We are getting more information by the day, by the minute,” Miller said. “There was some sort of conspiracy… that intended to storm that Capitol that day… I have reassessed. [Trump was] not the unitary factor at all.”

An incredulous Lynch told Miller, “For your written testimony for today, for today, this morning, you stated the following about the president, quote, ‘I personally believe his comments encouraged the protesters that day.’”

Insults using the word “ridiculous” ensued, but still…President Trump wanted the National Guard to protect the MAGA people, not Congress. And…Christopher Miller claims to have changed his mind.

Okay….

On to Memphis where a suspicious looking fissure in the steel of the bridge that carries Interstate 40 was found.

https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1392582122590834693

Being a native of a city a couple hundred miles upstream from Memphis with not one bridge carrying Interstates, but three (out of about a dozen including the rail bridges) over two rivers…this ain’t good, but it is fixable. And it also looks like a natural crack, but without shaving samples there’s no way to prove it one way or another.

However, if this was sabotage, guarding the infrastructure should be a pretty high priority and if the federal people won’t do it, the state and locals should.

Oh, and about the pipeline shutdown:

And then there’s this:

https://twitter.com/Sportsf08980142/status/1392483418320015360

And now the real truth comes out.

https://twitter.com/DrAndrewThaler/status/1392591184942489600

So…there’s a “gas shortage” and a fifth of the country is grinding to a halt for nothing?

Oh, somebody’s going to have to answer for this.

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1392555965690613762

Oh, that’s right, there are ELECTION AUDITS going on in Arizona and Michigan.

We’re supposed to be watching those red pill machines, not the side shows that unfortunately are impacting us more immediately even if the audits in the end are far more important.

What a friggin’ mess.

For all the people still placing stock in the mainstream media.

And don’t forget: NOTHING IS AT IT SEEMS

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Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: aaefa5 No.11115887 
Jan 4 2018 00:54:28 (EST)

What makes a movie GOOD?
GREAT actors?
Q

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  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

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If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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ACTS 18:1-8

1After this he left Athens and went to Corinth. 2And he found a Jew named Aq’uila, a native of Pontus, lately come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome. And he went to see them; 3and because he was of the same trade he stayed with them, and they worked, for by trade they were tentmakers. 4And he argued in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded Jews and Greeks. 5When Silas and Timothy arrived from Macedo’nia, Paul was occupied with preaching, testifying to the Jews that the Christ was Jesus. 6And when they opposed and reviled him, he shook out his garments and said to them, “Your blood be upon your heads! I am innocent. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.” 7And he left there and went to the house of a man named Titius Justus, a worshiper of God; his house was next door to the synagogue. 8Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord, together with all his household; and many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed and were baptized.

Prayers for the nation, the salvation of humanity, and all of us here – lurkers and members – as well as our families, are welcome.

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Dear KAG: 20210512 Open Thread

https://youtu.be/mBIiuVvFHAU

Well, it was Rand Paul vs. Fauci again on Capitol Hill, and little Tony lied his tushy off.

https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes1971/status/1392137437397372933
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1392176879826870274

It’s not like this news has not been reported.

And still, the facade is being manufactured…well, unless there’s an air raid. (Seriously, watch this to the end.)

https://twitter.com/Mockingjay20211/status/1391926678297858050

Talk about body re-animation.

Oh, and as a bonus:

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1392089404307615744

Yes, we’re living a dystopian nightmare.

And now for the obligatory message from our sponsors:

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone

Please, stock up on blanks for celebratory gunfire, be ready to swing from the chandeliers…and no messing with the nuclear weapons.

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If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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JOHN 16:12-15

12“I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

Even the makers of “Kentucky Fried Movie” knew something was hinky with the JFK public execution, uh, assassination.

The Diamonds Must Be Returned

Beautiful post by REALPOTUS.

Virginia Patriot MAGA reposted

Donald J Trump
@realdonaldtrump
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The major Michigan Election Fraud case has just filed a bombshell pleading claiming votes were intentionally switched from President Trump to Joe Biden. The number of votes is MASSIVE and determinative. This will prove true in numerous other States. All Republicans must UNIFY and not let this happen. If a thief robs a jewelry store of all of its diamonds (the 2020 Presidential Election), the diamonds must be returned. The Fake News media refuses to cover the greatest Election Fraud in the history of our Country. They have lost all credibility, but ultimately, they will have no choice!

8,067 likes
554 comments
3,049 reposts

The diamonds must be returned.

Don’t stop saying it.

W

PS: Joe Biden didn’t win.

Dear KAG: 20210511 Open Thread

Cover image: Spring in the Rockies by Kenneth Shanika.

Just in case you missed it….

Please note the Prius and the Subaru in the background. Virtue signaling as a way of life. These people are so predictable.

The waiting continues. Apparently, the leaks have been plugged again and the pipelines of information on what is going on behind the scenes of the never ending Joe Biden Show have dried up. That being the case….

Who cares?

This one, on the other hand, makes the heart hurt.

With all luck, honest and competent physicians will refuse to administer the inoculations.

Or…that big event that the “insiders” keep promising could come soon, and it all gets exposed on RSBN.

And for once, the “fireworks” are in Israel.

And, here is the sort of guy who makes America great.

Max Bialystock would be so proud.

Just a reminder:

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

And now for some mood music:

Your weekly reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.

Ahem.

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out with anyone who happens to still be hanging out there. There is also a “rescue” thread there for members of the Tree to rendezvous if the main site goes kablooey.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all, ahem, adults, although some of us are beginning to wonder what the threshold for true adulthood is:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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1 CORINTHIANS 1:26-31; 2:1-2

126For consider your call, brethren; not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth; 27but God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong, 28God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30He is the source of your life in Christ Jesus, whom God made our wisdom, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption; 31therefore, as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.” 21When I came to you, brethren, I did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God in lofty words or wisdom. 2For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Dear KMAG: 20210510 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

Yes, it’s Monday…again.

But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.

Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil. We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.

If you find yourself in a slap fight, we ask that you take it outside to The U Tree…which is also a good place to report any technical difficulties, if you’re unable to report them here.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

Please pray for our real President, the one who actually won the election:


For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Eternal Eclipse, titled ‘Oathkeeper’:

And this from Whitesand, titled ‘Exiled’:


Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

I will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wheatie’s Word of the Day:

defugalty

Pronounced: duh-FEW-gawl-tee.

Defugalty is a noun and is an obscure word for some people, but I was raised with it. When my parents used it, they meant…a disagreement, an ongoing argument.

Dictionaries, however, say that defugalty means…a great difficulty; a quandry; an inconsistency, especially with regards to communication.

Used in a sentence:

The Democrats in Congress got into a defugalty over how much they would raise our taxes.


COVID-19: New Treatment Protocol and Important Contraindications

This is a very important video you don’t want to miss. It just came out, and the doctor is a guy I’ve been following. He chooses his words carefully, to stay inside the establishment where he can publish some of the top papers, but he speaks the truth at all times.

Don’t let the video title fool you – the doc is much more “reserved” than big scary death headlines, but that is EXACTLY WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT.

I picked this interview up HERE:

LINK: https://conservativeplaybook.com/2021/05/08/cdc-as-many-people-have-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-as-all-vaccines-in-last-20-years-combined/

The Rumble video is located HERE:

LINK: https://rumble.com/vgjw85-covid-shot-killing-large-numbers-warns-top-covid-doctor-peter-mccullough.html

Here are just a few things to listen for:

  • COVID-19 is dying down because of early treatment
  • vaccination is only one of 4 pillars of dealing with an epidemic
  • media has pretended like only 2 of the 4 pillars exist
  • COVID recoverees likely have AT LEAST 17 YEARS OF IMMUNITY – like victims of SARS-1
  • COVID recoverees should NOT get the vaccine
  • COVID recoverees have “gold star immunity” – should get highest grade passports
  • COVID recoverees who get vaxxed have 2-3 times MORE adverse effects
  • vaxxing recoverees is stupid and wrong
  • pregnant, wanting to have kids, anybody EXCLUDED from clinical trials should NOT get vaccines
  • vaccines are NOT FDA-approved
  • nobody has to get vaccines – THEY’RE NOT FDA APPROVED – they’re “available”
  • the spike protein vaccines are only about 70% effective in preventing COVID in reality
  • many (half or more) of his COVID patients have been vaxxed
  • risk of infection is below 1% – not very serious
  • spike protein vaccines only protect against spike protein, not the other parts of the virus
  • go to https://www.openvaers.com/ to search on vaccine adverse effects EASILY
  • there’s a new outpatient protocol for treatment which starts off with antibodies LIKE TRUMP GOT
  • the new protocol then follows up with C, D, zinc, quercetin, HCQ, budesonide, etc.
  • the new protocol is available by telemedicine
  • COVID is going to become a simple normal risk like pneumonia or flu – BACK TO NORMAL
  • his non-expert opinion (but expert opinion of some colleagues) is bioweapon
  • not a normal virus in his medical opinion
  • much more

As you can see, there is some big stuff there.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED LISTEN!

W

PS – if you liked that, here is another great video where he reveals a LOT!

LINK: https://rumble.com/vdsy67-asia-pacific-today.-early-treatment-for-covid-19-reduces-deaths-with-dr-pet.html

Dear KMAG: 20210509 Open Topic

This Sanctuary Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It is also a place to read, post and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

Please show respect and consideration for our fellow QTreepers. Before hitting the “post” button, please proofread your post and make sure you’re addressing the issue only, and not trying to confront the poster. Keep to the topic – avoid “you” and “your”. Here in The Q Tree, personal attacks, name calling, ridicule, insults, baiting and other conduct for which a penalty flag would be thrown are VERBOTEN.

In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

Please also consider the Guidelines for posting and discussion printed here: https://www.theqtree.com/2019/01/01/dear-maga-open-topic-20190101/


One of the major problems with Liberals in politics and government is that they act as if they intuitively know the solution to every problem they address. It doesn’t matter at all if their solution flies in the face of fact, logic, practicality, common sense or the will of the people. Liberal government officials are not servants of the people . . . they rule the people. It’s their will that will be done and they will use the power of their office to ignore, redefine or selectively apply the law to create an agenda to implement their infallible intuitive solutions.

So it is with Liberals in Christianity . . . after all they have the same type character and hold the same type of beliefs as the Liberals in politics and government. They know better than God’s Word and aren’t afraid to ignore or redefine parts of God’s Word to suit their personal interpretations.

Give Liberals in politics and government some authority and some time and they will ruin our country. And so it is in Christianity with Liberals. Some are in positions they recognize as authority and with the time they have had, they’re doing their best to attempt to ruin Christianity.


Liberal Theology

In liberal Christian teaching, which is not Christian at all, man’s reason is stressed and is treated as the final authority. Liberal theologians seek to reconcile Christianity with secular science and modern thinking. In doing so, they treat science as all-knowing and the Bible as fable-laden and false. Genesis’ early chapters are reduced to poetry or fantasy, having a message, but not to be taken literally (in spite of Jesus’ having spoken of those early chapters in literal terms). Mankind is not seen as totally depraved, and thus liberal theologians have an optimistic view of the future of mankind. The social gospel is also emphasized, while the inability of fallen man to fulfill it is denied. Whether a person is saved from his sin and its penalty in hell is no longer the issue; the main thing is how man treats his fellow man. “Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue. As a result of this “reasoning” by liberal theologians, the following doctrines are taught by liberal quasi-Christian theologians:

1) The Bible is not “God-breathed” and has errors. Because of this belief, man (the liberal theologians) must determine which teachings are correct and which are not. Belief that the Bible is “inspired” (in that word’s original meaning) by God is only held by simpletons. This directly contradicts 2 Timothy 3:16-17: “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2) The virgin birth of Christ is a mythological false teaching. This directly contradicts Isaiah 7:14 and Luke 2.

3) Jesus did not rise again from the grave in bodily form. This contradicts the resurrection accounts in all four Gospels and the entire New Testament.

4) Jesus was a good moral teacher, but His followers and their followers have taken liberties with the history of His life (there were no “supernatural” miracles), with the Gospels having been written many years later and merely ascribed to the early disciples in order to give greater weight to their teachings. This contradicts the 2 Timothy passage and the doctrine of the supernatural preservation of the Scriptures by God.

5) Hell is not real. Man is not lost in sin and is not doomed to some future judgment without a relationship with Christ through faith. Man can help himself; no sacrificial death by Christ is necessary since a loving God would not send people to such a place as hell and since man is not born in sin. This contradicts Jesus Himself, who declared Himself to be the Way to God, through His atoning death (John 14:6).

6) Most of the human authors of the Bible are not who they are traditionally believed to be. For instance, they believe that Moses did not write the first five books of the Bible. The book of Daniel had two authors because there is no way that the detailed “prophecies” of the later chapters could have been known ahead of time; they must have been written after the fact. The same thinking is carried over to the New Testament books. These ideas contradict not only the Scriptures but historical documents which verify the existence of all the people whom the liberals deny.

7) The most important thing for man to do is to “love” his neighbor. What is the loving thing to do in any situation is not what the Bible says is good but what the liberal theologians decide is good. This denies the doctrine of total depravity, which states that man is incapable of doing anything good and loving (Jeremiah 17:9) until He has been redeemed by Christ and given a new nature (2 Corinthians 5:17).

There are many pronouncements of Scripture against those who would deny the deity of Christ (2 Peter 2:1)—which liberal Christianity does. Scripture also denounces those who would preach a different gospel from what was preached by the apostles (Galatians 1:8)—which is what the liberal theologians do in denying the necessity of Christ’s atoning death and preaching a social gospel in its place. The Bible condemns those who call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20)—which some liberal churches do by embracing homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle while the Bible repeatedly condemns its practice.

Scripture speaks against those who would cry “peace, peace” when there is no peace (Jeremiah 6:14)—which liberal theologians do by saying that man can attain peace with God apart from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross and that man need not worry about a future judgment before God. The Word of God speaks of a time when men will have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof (2 Timothy 3:5)—which is what liberal theology does in that it says that there is some inner goodness in man that does not require a rebirth by the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ. And it speaks against those who would serve idols instead of the one true God (1 Chronicles 16:26)—which liberal Christianity does in that it creates a false god according to its own liking rather than worshiping God as He is described in the whole of the Bible.


I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel – which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! (Galatians 1:6-9)


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the Lord’s holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words, then you will find your joy in the Lord, and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. Isaiah 58:13-14

2021·05·08 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

His Fraudulency

Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, we haven’t heard much from the person who should have been declared the victor, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.

One can hope that all is not as it seems.

I’d love to feast on that crow.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices.

Kitco Ask. Last week:

Gold $1768.60
Silver $25.97
Platinum $1205.00
Palladium $2996.00
Rhodium $29,000.00

This week, markets closed as of 3PM MT.

Gold $1831.70
Silver $27.54
Platinum $1257.00
Palladium $2980.00
Rhodium $27,400.00

That is a big breakout for gold on the upside. It went up fifty dollars just since Wednesday. Platinum hasn’t done too badly either! It went up over $30 on Wednesday.

(Be advised that if you want to go buy some gold, you will have to pay at least $200 over these spot prices. They represent “paper” gold, not “physical” gold, a lump you can hold in your hand. Incidentally, if you do have a lump of some size, doesn’t it give you a nice warm feeling to heft it?)

Update: More info on Valcambi Combo Bars

Somebody asked me about the Valcambi combo bars for gold, silver and other precious metals. These are the ones that can readily be broken up into smaller pieces. I was at the Denver Coin Expo yesterday/Friday, and asked someone who had Valcambi bullion at his table if the bars were worth less broken apart, and he said yes, they are worth less.

Still, it might be worth holding a couple of them (and not breaking them apart) in case there’s a fiat money apocalypse. If that happens, you’ll have bigger problems than worrying about how much fiat you’ll get for a 1 gram bar as opposed to the full, 20 (or more) block chocolate bar, and it might be a good way to subdivide your gold holdings when you absolutely need to. Or, you can use silver for “small” change…but even there, it might make sense someday to be able to break down an ounce of silver.

Velocity and Momentum
(Part II of a Long Series)

Introduction

The general outline of this story is to start off by putting you “in touch” with the state of physics at the beginning of 1895. Physicists were feeling pretty confident that they understood most everything. Sure there were a few loose ends, but they were just loose ends.

1895 marks the year when people began tugging at the loose ends and things unraveled a bit. In the next three years, three major discoveries made it plain there was still a lot to learn at the fundamental level.

Once I’m there I will concentrate on a very, very small object…that ties in with stars, arguably the biggest objects there are (galaxies are basically collections of stars). And we would never have seen this but for those discoveries in the 1890s.

It’s such a long story I decided to break it down into pieces, and this is the second of those pieces.

And here is the caveat: I will be explaining, at first, what the scientific consensus was in 1895. So much of what I have to say is out of date, and I know it…but going past it would be a spoiler. So I’d appreciate not being “corrected” in the comments when I say things like “mass is conserved.” I know that that isn’t considered true any more, but the point is in 1895 we didn’t know that. I will get there in due time. (On the other hand, if I do misrepresent the state of understanding as it was in 1895, I do want to know it.)

Also, to avoid getting bogged down in Spockian numbers specified to nine decimal places, I’m going to round a lot of things off. I used 9.8 kg m/s2 last time for a number that’s actually closer to 9.80665, for instance, similarly for the number 32.

A couple of Go Backs

Remembering my previous post on mass, one might wonder, “why bother with this sort of thing? Why should people investigate such things?”

We live in an orderly universe. This is a good thing. It gives us confidence that when we set the groceries on the counter, they won’t jump up and bite us. (Not even Darwin’s live food groceries.) It also means that when we drop a car battery on our feet, we know it!

The point of science, when it is being properly done, is to increase our understanding of this world we are in.

All that work on forces and masses and weight was at its core an exercise in breaking down phenomena we see every day into different effects and studying one of them. We removed friction and gravity from the picture and analyzed what was left. Then we took up gravity. What we didn’t get to was showing that friction is itself a force.

With that kind of understanding, you can predict what will happen in an environment where gravity is different, e.g., on the moon and in orbit. At first you won’t be used to it, but then you do get used to it. There are plenty of stories of astronauts who adapt so well to “microgravity” (i.e., the lack of any sort of sensation of “down”) and free fall that they will come home, put the toothpaste on the toothbrush, and drop the toothpaste tube, because they’re used to just letting it go and having it stay there until they’re ready to put things away. They’re applying Newton’s first law (objects at rest will stay at rest) since it is pretty much unmodified in orbit, no need to worry about gravity pulling things to the floor.

Another Go Back. Last time I rather casually used the concept of acceleration, without really going into it much. I assumed some knowledge that many might not have.

You can think of acceleration as change in speed, the faster the change, the greater the acceleration. And it can be a decrease as well as an increase; to a physicist it’s still an acceleration, albeit one which is in the reverse direction to the motion.

I know, too, I said things like “meters per second per second” a lot. That wasn’t a stammer. That’s truly how you measure acceleration. Think about a sports car, able to go from zero to 60 miles an hour in four seconds. That means, on average, every second of that four seconds, the car’s speed increases by 15 miles per hour. So it accelerates at 15 miles per hour every second, which is to say at 15 miles per hour per second. That can even be written as 15 miles / hour / second (the “per” functioning as a division). Or even, 15 miles • 1/hour • 1/sec.

Yes, when physicists do math, they will multiply and divide by units, not just the numbers. They can be divided and multiplied, and even follow the rules of cancelation. (Chemists often have to convert from one unit to another, like calories to Joules, so they really do this sort of thing a lot.)

Notice there are two time units (hours and seconds) in the denominator. It’s kind of funny that they don’t match. You could convert the hours into seconds, like this: Use the fact that there are 3600 seconds in an hour and do the following: 15 miles • 1/hour • 1/sec • 1 hour/3600 sec.

That last term is simply 1 hour divided by 3600 seconds, which is 1. You can multiply by 1 without changing anything. But now that it’s there, the two hours, one in the numerator and the other in the denominator, cancel

Do that cancellation and you have 15 miles • 1/hour • 1/sec • 1 hour/3600sec, and you can re-arrange to get 15/3600 • miles/sec/sec or 1/240 miles per second per second or 0.004167 miles / sec2. You could then move on to convert miles to meters (1609 meters is one mile, roughly), and that works out to be 6.7 m/s2, and it turns out that car is accelerating about 2/3 as much as gravity accelerates a falling object.

You may have noticed I seem to prefer metric, and that’s because just about every bit of my technical education was in metric; I’m used to it. When I got exposed to the occasional rocketry done in pounds force and pounds mass, it was like trying to use stone knives and bearskins (and you needed to know when you had to multiply or divide by that 32). Obviously it works (we put men on the moon after all), but it just seems cumbersome to me.

(And a note for the fussy, you’ll notice I’ve sometimes spelled out a unit, e.g., “second” and sometimes abbreviate it “sec” or “s.” That last one, just a plain s, is the “official” metric abbreviation for second. Likewise meters, m, and kilograms, kg. But sometimes I spell things out too, as a reminder.)

But the notion of acceleration (however you measure it) is itself depends on speed…actually, it is dependent on velocity.

Velocity

So my second “go back” actually leads us into today’s topics. Let’s flesh out velocity.

Velocity is both how fast something is moving, and in what direction. So it’s actually a more complex concept than the one we talked about last time, mass. The distinction between mass and weight was probably odd to many, but at least mass can be expressed as a number. Velocity? You need a number (your speed), and a direction. (Or maybe you can get by with a bit less…stay with me.)

Direction is easy on a straight highway. You’re either going forward or backward. Since there’s only two choices, and they are opposite of each other, it’s natural to consider the forward direction positive and the backward direction negative. So driving 60 mph in fourth gear is +60 mi/hr, but switching to reverse (after first stopping, since we don’t want your engine to leap through your hood in an ugly mess), and going fairly fast in reverse might get you -10 mi/hr. The local constabulary, using a radar gun, will measure your speed and may depending on circumstances pull you over to inform you how fast you were going and how much you will have to pay for that.

You can even add and subtract your velocities, just like you do with masses. The usual example here is a railroad car moving along on tracks, also nice and tidy and one-dimensional. If the train is moving at 60 mi/hr and a pitcher is in a cattle car, playing catch with someone, and he throws the ball forward at 60 mi/hr, someone standing on the side of the tracks will see the ball moving at 120 mi/hr, because the speed of the train and the ball add together. If he and the catcher switch places, he’s now throwing the ball at -60 mi/hr and the ball is now stationary as far as the guy by the side of the tracks is concerned: +60 mi/hr plus -60 mi/hr = zero.

OK, I’ve used a very limited situation to make a couple of points, but it’s not very interesting in the real world. What about two or even three dimensions?

I’m going to do what everyone else does when explaining velocity in two dimensions: I’m going to use a pool table as my example. It’s the best choice I can think of, and I guess that was the best they could come up with too.

Let’s say the pool table points north-south along its length. A ball is moving directly north at 1 m/s. Another ball is moving directly east at 1 m/s. They have the same speed, but different velocities, because the direction of motion is different.

Figure 2-1
Two balls moving at one meter per second so they have the same speed,
but they are moving in different directions so they have different velocities.

Now let’s consider a different ball, a red one moving at 1 m/s exactly to the north east. If you think about it, that ball is moving north at a certain rate, and at the same time it’s moving east at a certain rate. Or to put it another way, how fast would a ball (let’s make this one pale blue) moving straight east have to move so that it’s always directly south of the diagonally-moving ball? And how fast would a (purple this time) ball moving straight north have to move so that it’s always directly west of the diagonally-moving ball?

Figure 2-2
How fast does the purple ball have to move so it’s always exactly west of the red ball, which is moving diagonally?
Similarly, how about the turquoise ball? How fast must it move on the horizontal line to stay exactly south of that red ball?

You can do this visually by drawing a diagram like this, then measuring the vertical and horizontal lines. You should get about .7 the length of the diagonal line. Since that diagonal line is 1 m/s, the horizontal and vertical lines should be .7 m/s. (The exact number is actually 1, divided by the square root of 2. That can be derived from the Pythagorean Theorem. To six places, it’s 0.707107, but you will never be able to measure quite that accurately off a drawing you made on a piece of paper.)

You can do this with any velocity, big or small, in any direction. You can break it down into a north-south component and an east-west component.

So any velocity on the pool table can be expressed with numbers, but by writing two numbers, not one. Our diagonal moving ball has a velocity of [ 0.707 north, 0.707 east ] meters per second.

That pair of numbers is enough to do the job of a speed and a direction.

The Vector

And this is what is called a vector in its mathematical form.

You can also represent a vector by picking a scale (1 inch equals 1 m/sec, for instance), and drawing an arrow with the appropriate length, pointed in the appropriate direction. We’ve already done that. You can’t compute things this way but it sure does help you visualize it. And you can get estimates by measuring off the diagram if you’re careful drawing it.

Vectors are considered equal if they have the same length (mathematicians call this the “magnitude” of the vector) and the same direction. There’s no notion built into a vector of “where it starts” and “where it ends.” We can move them around for convenience, especially on those diagrams, just so long as we don’t stretch them or rotate them.

Figure 2-3
Vectors are equal to each other if they have the same length and distance, they are not equal to each other if they are of different lengths (“magnitudes”) even if they’re in the same direction, nor are they equal to each other if they have the same magnitude but different directions.

If you think back to last time, I talked about force, mass and acceleration. F = ma. But it turns out the force is a vector. When you push on something, you’re pushing in a certain direction. Likewise, acceleration is a vector too, you’re speeding up in a certain direction. It’s customary to write vectors in bold face (or if on a blackboard, by drawing a line with a little arrowhead over the letter). So it’s actually F = ma.

Mass was not written in bold, because it takes a single number to express it; it doesn’t have direction. (Weight does. Why?) Such plain-old-number quantities are called scalars in distinction to vectors.

Returning to our current topic, velocity is abbreviated v, bold because it’s a vector. So in our diagonally moving ball example, v = [ 0.707 north, 0.707 east ] m/s.

When you take a vector and express it like this, you’ve broken it down into its north and east components. It actually doesn’t matter which two directions you use, so long as they’re perpendicular, but for now let’s stick with north and east.

Even a total distance moved can be a vector. The total distance is equal to the elapsed time, t, times the speed or velocity (depending on whether you want just the distance, or the distance and direction). d = vt.

What happens when you multiply a vector by a scalar, as shown here? What you do on a diagram, is make the arrow that much longer or shorter. Mathematically, you go to each component of the vector and multiply each one by the scalar. In the case of the diagonal moving ball, you have:

d = 5s [0.707, 0.707]m/s = [3.535, 3.535]m. This is how far the ball has gone, relative to where you first started watching it five seconds before. (And it would go right off the pool table, too, if not for the bumpers. More on that later.)

Mathematicians like to do things as generically as possible. So they will write vectors in terms of x and y, rather than north and south. That means they’re not really wedded to any particular orientation. Remember I said it didn’t matter which directions you used, so long as they were at right angles to each other. For convenience when they draw diagrams, the x direction is to the right, and the y direction is upward, the y axis being 90 degrees counterclockwise from the x axis.

You can do more to vectors than just multiply them by a scalar. They can be added together, provided they’re in the same units. (No fair adding speed to force!) This also means they can be subtracted.

Of course when dealing with pure mathematics (as opposed to mathematics applied to physics), generally units are not a concern. Like in the following example.

On a diagram, take your first vector, whatever it is, and then put your second vector so that its tail is right at the head of the first vector. Then draw a new vector from the tail of the first vector to the head of the second vector. That’s the sum of the two vectors. Mathematically, you add each individual element. So [ 3, 4 ] + [ -1, 6 ] = [ 3-1, 4+6 ] = [2, 10].

Figure 2-4
Vector addition. The two black vectors add up to the red one; vectors must be placed “head to tail” to add them pictorially.

Conservation of Velocity?

So now let’s go back to the pool table, make the scenario slightly more complicated and see what we can use this whiz-bang vector thing to figure out.

This is pool, after all, balls are supposed to hit other balls. So, if we have a cue ball moving along in the x direction at, say, 1 m/s…or more rigorously [ 1.0, 0.0 ] m/s, and it hits another billiard ball head on, what happens? Well, the cue ball hits the other ball. Then the cue ball stops, and the second ball continues on along the x direction, also at 1 meters per second.

Figure 2-5
Two billiard balls, head on collision between a moving and a standing ball.

It’s as if the velocity transferred from the cue ball to the other ball, perfectly. So, is it possible we’re on the track of another conservation law, conservation of velocity?

Let’s do a little more investigation. For starters, consider a glancing blow. Let’s have the cue ball moving at 1 m/s in the x direction (ahem) v = [1.0, 0] m/s, and hit the other ball quite a bit off from head on, as shown below.

Figure 2-6
Billiard balls, an off center collision. This time both balls move after the collision.

You’ve seen this happen often enough, you know the cue ball will, in this case, continue moving, up and to the right. And the second ball will move down and to the right. And perhaps one of the two balls moves at a steeper angle than the other. That doesn’t look very much like velocity was conserved, does it? A motion in the x direction turns into two sort-of-diagonal motions?

But actually, when you look at it a bit closer, it looks good. As you can see, we’ve broken the two vectors into their x and y components.

We started with the cue ball moving at [1, 0]m/s, and the other ball (not) moving at [0, 0]m/s. Afterwards, the cue ball is moving at [0.750, 0.433]m/s and the other ball is moving at [0.250, -0.433]m/s.

If velocity is conserved, the sum of the velocities before must equal the sum of the velocities afterwards. These are vectors, and I already told you how to add vectors. So let’s do some addition:

Before: Cue ball [1, 0]m/s + Other ball [0, 0]m/s = [1, 0]m/s.

After: [0.750, 0.433]m/sec + [0.250, -0.433] = [1, 0] m/s.

So it does look like velocity is conserved. Yes, here I could have just made up the numbers to make it work out, but the fact of the matter is in real life, these billiard ball examples really do work out like this.

(And, since I did contrive this scenario, the direction of the cue ball is 30 degrees “up” from the x axis, and its speed is 0.866 m/s. The other ball is moving “down” at a 60 degree angle, at a speed of 0.5 m/s. Those who took some trigonometry might remember there’s something special about 30 and 60 degree angles and the square root of 3, divided by 2.)

A pool player will have played so many games of pool that he knows this behavior in his gut; he knows exactly where to hit the other ball with the cue ball to get the angle he wants, to send that other ball into the corner pocket.

But if it’s a conservation law, it has to hold all of the time, not just in billiards scenarios. And this one doesn’t hold all of the time in billiards, much less in the “real world.”

Nope, No Conservation of Velocity

What happens when a ball hits the bumper? If it hits the bumper head on at 1 m/s, it bounces back at 1 m/s, in the opposite direction. In other words, whatever the vector was before, it’s now a vector in the opposite direction. That’s not conservation!! (And the pool player knows this one too, of course.)

Also, not quite within the realm of billiards, what if the balls are of different weights…er, masses? You already know from your own personal life what will happen. Hit a pool ball with a cannonball and the pool ball will go rocketing away, much faster than the cannonball was moving, and the cannon ball will slow down the tiniest but not stop moving. Reverse the process, hitting the cannonball with the cue ball, and it will barely budge, but the cue ball will bounce back the way it came.

If you want to mess with a pool player, randomize the masses of the balls. Because normally all of the balls have exactly the same mass, at least as close as the manufacturer can make it. In real life very few objects have the same masses. As soon as the masses are different the tidy behavior we illustrated above goes right out the window and the player can’t predict what will happen.

So if you do some experimenting, it seems like what might be getting conserved is not velocity, but something that is the product of mass times velocity. You have to add the mass times velocity, before and after, and that will be conserved. A heavy object will move less under the same impetus from some other object, than a light one would. If mass goes up, velocity goes down to compensate, and vice versa.

Momentum

That product of mass times velocity is known as momentum. And it’s a scalar times a vector, so it’s a vector, too. And for some reason, they chose to symbolize it with p. (They didn’t use m because m is mass, but why did they pick p instead of q or u or…?). p = mv. And if m is in kilograms, and velocity is in meters per second, we can define the momentum as being in kilogram meters per second, kg•m/sec. That way we can avoid the use of a fudge factor, since the units are already consistent with each other. There is, unfortunately, no named unit of momentum like there is with force (the Newton), so “kilogram meter per second” it is.

OK, that takes care of the unequal masses behaving oddly, but what about a ball rebounding off one of the bumpers?

Actually, what’s happening there is that the ball is striking a much more massive object–the pool table. And the pool table is firmly fixed to the entire planet, if nothing else by friction.

So the entire Earth, it turns out, is reacting to that ball hitting the bumper, and picking up motion in that direction, but the earth is so massive that the motion is very, very small. In fact, in order to make the ball rebound, the momentum of the ball is changing by twice its prior value. If the mass of the ball is b, and it was moving at 1 m/s in the x direction before, its momentum was [ b, 0 ]kg•m/s before, and afterwards its moving in the opposite direction with a momentum of [ -b, 0 ]kg•m/s. Net change in momentum is [ -2b, 0 ]kg•m/s. The earth has to make up this change by gaining [ 2b, 0] kg•m/s. But the earth’s mass is much, much, much more than b, so the velocity imparted by the ball to the earth is microscopic. If one goes up the other has to come down to compensate.

One could complain that since we can’t measure the earth’s “rebound” in this case, maybe it isn’t rebounding. But the absence of evidence (i.e., the failure to be able to measure it) isn’t the same as the evidence of absence (i.e., evidence the earth doesn’t actually rebound when the ball hits the bumper). If we had a way of measuring the earth’s rebound that was sensitive enough to show what we expect based on theory, and it didn’t show that change, then we’d have evidence that momentum isn’t conserved. But if we know our measuring is inaccurate enough that we can’t see it even if it’s there, then not seeing it doesn’t mean anything, one way or the other.

Conservation of Momentum

Since this is a part of the story of where physics was in 1895, I’ll put it out, here, that as of that time, no exception was known. Every time we could measure things, momentum was conserved. It was considered a solid part of physics.

Because a vector consists of two components, and the addition rules keep the two components separately, you could treat the conservation of momentum as if it were two separate laws, conservation of momentum in the x direction, and conservation of momentum in the y direction. No one actually does this, but from a bookkeeping standpoint it’s definitely twice as much time with the ledger as conservation of mass is.

And, Oh By The Way…vectors can be three dimensional, too! It’s then a triple number, and the new axis is the z axis, perpendicular to both the x and y axes. The three edges of a cube that meet at the corner are a good representation of this.

Rockets and Guns

Now for an application. How does a rocket work? It works entirely through momentum. Let’s say the rocket’s mass is a thousand kilograms (one metric ton or “tonne”), including the fuel it has on board. And let’s furthermore imagine that it’s out in space somewhere.

A rocket engine works by shooting matter–burnt rocket fuel, to be specific–out the nozzle at very high velocity.

So if the rocket burns one kilogram of fuel plus oxidizer, and shoots the combustion product out the nozzle at 4000 m/s, what happens?

Let’s do this in one dimension for simplicity. The direction the rocket is pointed is positive. And we’re moving along with it, so it looks stationary to us. The rocket, including the fuel, has a momentum of zero.

The momentum of the rocket fuel after it has been burned is 1kg • -4000m/sec. (Negative because the rocket is blowing the exhaust out behind it, the nose points in the positive direction, the nozzle points in the negative direction.

If momentum is conserved, the rocket must now also have a momentumm, this time of +4000 kg•m/s. The rocket has a mass of 1000 kg, so that works out to the rocket now moving at 4 m/s in the forward direction.

So if we want another 4 m/s, burn another kilogram of fuel and oxidizer, right?

Good logic, but there’s a complication here. Because the rocket burned 1 kg of its own mass to get to this point, and now it masses 999 kg, So another kilogram of fuel, adding 2000 kg•m/s to the rocket’s momentum, will actually add slighly more than 4 m/s, precisely 4000/999 m/s, in fact.

For that matter, if you think about it, the mass of the rocket was declining while we did that first burn, so we must have gained a tiny bit more than 4 m/s even the first time around.

That’s quite true, actually, and the real formula for how much velocity a rocket gains by burning some amount of fuel is a bit more complex. But the takeaway is that even in following the other formula, the rocket and its burnt fuel are abiding by the conservation of momentum; in fact it relies on it to operate.

(If you’ve ever heard astronauts, or NASA types, talking about “delta vee”, that’s a reference to the total change in velocity given how much fuel is left, or alternatively, they’re talking about the total change in velocity for a specific maneuver, because that will be equivalent to a cost in fuel for that rocket, with its current mass.)

How about firing a gun? It’s sort of the flip side of a rocket. With a rocket the goal is to make the big thing move, and flinging the fuel out as fast as possible is a means to that end. With a gun, the goal is to make the little thing (the bullet) move, and the gun kicking in the opposite direction is the price paid.

Why does the muzzle flip up on a handgun? Shouldn’t it go straight back, instead of up? It would, except that the line of the barrel does not go through the gun’s center of mass, so there’s a bit of torque there, that causes the whole gun to rotate. If you grip it solidly enough, it kicks your arm up too. Tense up your arm and the entire weight of your body resists the torque and you don’t move much. (Torque, by the way, is another concept that beginning physics studies…)

These particular scenarios are also vivid illustrations of Newton’s third law: for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction.

This is actually just another way of stating the conservation of momentum. And the first person to put forward the observation that momentum seemed to be conserved was John Wallis in 1671. Newton put forward his three laws in 1687.

Vector fun.

OK, here’s another application of stuff we’ve learned today. You have two identical cannonballs. You drop one. (Hopefully not on your foot.) At the same instant, the other is fired out of a cannon, perfectly horizontally. (Hopefully at a deserving target.) Oh, and you do your drop at the same height as the cannon’s muzzle.

If you’re on perfectly flat ground, which cannonball hits the ground first?

They hit at the same time.

Look at it from a vector standpoint. X is the direction the cannon fires. Y is straight up.

The dropped cannonball starts the experiment with v=[0,0]m/s. The fired cannonball, on the other hand, starts out with v=[200, 0]m/s. I just made that x number up; it doesn’t matter what it is as you’ll see in a moment. (Well, you’ll see it if if I did my job right, today.)

The force of gravity imparts an acceleration of –9.8 m/s2 in the y direction, i.e., straight down.

This acceleration can only affect the y component of the velocity vectors, since it’s purely in that direction. And in the y direction, both cannonballs are stationary and in the same place when the experiment starts.

Thus, they both have the same fall, and they will both hit at the same time. It doesn’t matter how fast one of them is moving sideways! And in fact they don’t even need to be the same weight.

I’ve seen demos of this principle done where steel ball bearings are used, in a special little gizmo that drops one the same time a spring shoots the other one out horizontally. You only hear one clack as both balls hit at the same time.

Can’t get the drift.

Last time around, I highlighted what was, in 1895, a standing mystery. Gravitation seemed to work, except they couldn’t figure out what was going on with Mercury’s orbit about the sun. A similar problem with Uranus had led to the discovery of Neptune, so it seemed as if there must be some planet closer to the sun than Mercury, lost in the Sun’s glare, perturbing its orbit. Despite the best efforts of astronomers, that planet (already pre-named Vulcan) had never been found.

This time I’m going to highlight a different little issue.

I mentioned before that velocities were additive, right? A ball thrown by a pitcher on board a moving train ends up moving, relative to the outside observer, faster or slower than the pitcher threw it, by the speed of the train, depending on the direction of the throw.

Can we do this with other things? Sound, for instance, travels at a specific speed (one which varies depending on temperature, humidity, pressure, whether His Fraudulency is on or off his meds, and a host of other factors, but still, a speed that will remain constant until one of these factors changes). Trains have a nice source of sound on them, the whistle (or today the horn). So how fast is the sound travelling in front of the train, and how fast is it travelling behind the train? Measurements from the ground show that they are travelling at the same speed, not different speeds. (They also show that in front of the train the pitch is higher, but that effect is a different rabbit hole. Some other time, perhaps. No, some other time, definitely.) What’s going on here?

It turns out that sound is a wave that travels through a medium, air. It’s going to move at a certain speed relative to the air.

The train is moving, the air is not (unless it’s Wyoming). Thus the sound wave travels the same speed in all direction from the train’s whistle (horn), as seen from someone on the ground on a breezeless day. If some bored passenger on the train were to measure the speed of sound (assuming they’d let him climb around on top of the train in the first place), he’d see the sound move slower, relative to the train, when measured from in front of the whistle, at a normal speed to the side of the whistle, and faster behind the whistle. He could even figure out how fast the train was going by taking the difference between his “in back of” reading and his “in front of” reading and dividing by two. If he were really ignorant of how trains move, he could even prove it wasn’t moving sideways, but rather forward, this way.

Looking at light, we had originally thought it was instantaneous, it was so doggone fast. But then…well, remember Jupiter’s moons from last time? We could predict their motions once we knew Newton’s law of gravitation, actually we could do so from Kepler’s laws of planetary motion, known earlier. (We didn’t even really need to know the mass or distance to Jupiter to be able to do that.) Well, there was one little anomaly. We could predict the motions all right, but the motions were about eight minutes and twenty seconds early when we were closest to Jupiter, and eight minutes and twenty seconds late when we were farthest from Jupiter.

A little thought and someone realized, that the difference was due to the speed of light not being infinite. What we see now going on around Jupiter actually happened at some time in the past, when the light left Jupiter. It then took some amount of time for the light to get here.

The eight minutes and twenty seconds, really in total a 16 minutes and 40 seconds difference, reflect the amount of time it took light to span the entire width of the earth’s orbit about the sun, because it has to cover that much additional distance when we are farther away, versus closer, to Jupiter. (This works out to about a thousand seconds, by the way, a neat coincidence.)

We didn’t know how big the earth’s orbit was, and wouldn’t until the 1760s. Before that we just knew however big it was, light took a thousand seconds to cross it, you could even call it a distance of one thousand light seconds. But once we discovered that the earth’s orbital diameter is roughly 300,000,000 kilometers, we now knew light moved at about 300,000 kilometers per second (186,000 miles per second). This was another product of all that work measuring the solar system that I totally forgot about when writing that article (which is OK, because it fits better here anyway).

Light was, and is, believed to be a wave. So, presumably it goes through a medium, just like sound does. But it must be an otherwise intangible medium, or planet earth would be suffering drag plowing through it. Only light could “feel” that medium. We knew it had to be there, and so we gave it a name: It was the ether.

We might not be able to feel the ether, but we sure as heck ought to be able to measure the Earth’s velocity through it, the same way as the man on the train: by measuring the speed of light in different directions here on Earth.

Measuring the speed of light in a laboratory was difficult to do accurately in the mid 1800s, but we could be much more precise by comparing two different beams of light in two different directions, and seeing what the difference in their speed is.

Michelson and Morley tried this in 1887. They found no difference in the speed of light no matter which way they measured.

Well, it’s possible that at that point in our orbit, we just happened to be stationary with respect to the ether. But that couldn’t be true a couple of months later, because the earth would at the very least be orbiting in a different direction, so they kept trying.

Others have tried too, with much better equipment.

No difference. Ever. No one has ever “got the drift.”

What’s going on here? Well, that, like Vulcan, was a mystery as 1895 dawned.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

Dear KAG: 2021-05-07

Another Friday, and time to gather at Wolf’s Pub. Welcome, and sit back for the smackdown! I’ve had it with the liberals. Enough is enough. We are long past niceties.

Our drink special today is a dose of Liquid Liberty, aka Hard Cider. Americans were cider drinkers from before we became the United States of America. The Founding Fathers were drinkers and fermenters of hard cider. It was pretty much the drink of choice for a long while, until ale and beer slowly supplanted hard cider, and it fell on hard times. The Revolution, birthed partly in the many taverns of the colonies, was fueled on alcohol, according to this article.

John Adams for instance, enjoyed his hard cider:

“It’s tough to say, but John Adams may have been the biggest drinker of the Sons of Liberty. He began every day with a draft of hard cider before breakfast. He drank three glasses of Madeira, a wine fortified with rum, every night before bed. During the bad old days under British taxation, Adams wrote to his wife, “I am getting nothing that I can drink, and I believe I shall be sick from this cause alone.” He died at 90. Of old age.”

A bar tab at the time of the Constitutional Convention included eight bottles of hard cider, among an astonishing amount of other alcohol:

“It is impossible for Americans to accept the extent to which the Colonial period—including our most sacred political events—was suffused with alcohol. Protestant churches had wine with communion, the standard beverage at meals was beer or cider, and alcohol was served even at political gatherings. Booze was served at meetings of the Virginian and other state legislatures and, most of all, at the Constitutional Convention.

Indeed, we still have available the bar tab from a 1787 farewell party in Philadelphia for George Washington just days before the framers signed off on the Constitution. According to the bill preserved from the evening, the 55 attendees drank 54 bottles of Madeira, 60 bottles of claret, eight of whiskey, 22 of porter, eight of hard cider, 12 of beer, and seven bowls of alcoholic punch.”

Speaking of George Washington, from an article about the history of hard cider in America:

“George Washington won his election into the House of Burgesses in 1758 after serving up 144 gallons of hard cider and other beverages to voters.”

Keep on reading that article for some fun information about the “hard cider candidate” for president in the 1800s. He won. Ahem.

I had no idea that hard cider was served at the Battle of Concord. Yep.

Here’s a quirky and fun video on how to make hard cider:

Here’s a lovely article on drinking hard cider for Passover (it’s gluten free), with some info on the Founding Fathers. Gives some nice suggestions for cider choices today.

And check out Cider Scene for a history lesson on the Way Back history of hard cider.

Today, hard cider has made a big comeback. Funny how things come round at just the right time. Angry Orchard is probably one of the best known hard ciders today, but then it’s owned by the Boston Beer Company, which also owns Sam Adams. Here’s a page of ciders for your perusal.

There are many local breweries that also make hard cider. You should check out your own area. You might find a delicious cider made locally.

Head over to the bar for a nice selection of hard ciders. Then we can get down to brass tacks.

HOUSE RULES

We’re supposed to be civil…with each other. Wolf’s rules are simple and finite:

If the American Revolutionaries can keep it together drinking hard cider during a battle then we can, too.

The Utree is for the knockdown stuff and to reconvene in case of emergency. On to the business.

An Open Letter to Liberals

Dear Liberal Friends (or not),

This letter has been rolling around in my head for awhile now, and I guess it’s time to let you know how I really feel about your politics. I’ve been quiet around you. I don’t share much because I know how it will cause division, and you’ve already caused enough division in our country. But I guess we are well past that now. I have seen how you treat others who are more open with their support of the Trumpian America First agenda.

You’re downright mean, nasty, uncivil, immoral and bullying. You are Anti-American. You are Un-American.

I want to address the hollowed out bubble you have lived in for many years. Some of you went to Ivy League schools. You got great jobs, met all the right people and settled in the typical enclaves of the elites. You live, work, shop, and educate your kids in these places where the people of color you see are often as educated and wealthy as you are. Have you noticed there’s no shortage of minorities in all sectors of our institutions? Surely, you see that. I mean, it’s right in front of your faces.

The hospitals in your area have lots of minority nurses and doctors. And yes, some of the more mundane jobs are done by minorities, like the landscapers, grocery clerks, and pool cleaners, and those who wipe the bottoms of the old people in nursing homes.

But somehow, you don’t see that plenty of white people are doing those mundane jobs, too. To you they are invisible. Just the color of their skin makes them not worthy of your paternal attention because…white privilege.

You’ve been convinced to feel guilty about your wealth and societal privileges. To feel better about it, you denigrate the great masses of working- and middle-class white people, who you call rednecks, racists, bigots, homophobic, ignorant and downright stupid.

You believe the traditional American values of patriotism, adherence to the Constitution, religious values and egalitarian tendencies are passé. You are a firm believer that the people in your economic and social class are the ones best suited to rule this great nation.

Pardon me, but YOUR ignorance is stunning. If only you would hear what Stephen Balch is saying:

What’s more, because our elites’ mentality derives from Cloud-Cuckoo Land, they can’t deliver good governance, protective diplomacy, or material prosperity.”

Toward a National Liberation Movement

If only you were somehow compelled to get to know the regular working-class and middle-class individuals that fill the everyday lives of MOST Americans. I wonder if you would be surprised to know that we all get along just fine.

Our communities have been integrated for decades. We have intermarried and raised kids together. Few think a thing about it. We appreciate each other’s diverse cultures. We work together, worship together and hob nob with each other.

Yes, there are Spanish-language masses on Sundays (that liberal dioceses have added), and there are Baptist churches that cater almost exclusively to blacks, but that is a choice we are all free to make. Are there still racist people? You bet. And they are as likely to be people of color as whites.

Your group of people has been very busy bringing back racial division. It’s you and your fellow Democrat/Socialists who are the racists and always have been. How terrible, and what an indictment of your political ideology. You have made everything about race, just when America was on the verge of making nothing about race.

The strategies of the politicians you favor have divided our national house like no other. You sit back in your wealthy enclave, protected from the outcome of these racist and divisive policies. Do you really think that you are improving the lot of anyone?

The liberal policies of the Great Society created an underclass of minorities (with TRILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS), the descendants of which populate sections of our largest cities. Fatherless, directionless, these lost populations have turned to drugs and gangs and trafficking. It is this group of people who have most been harmed by liberals such as yourselves.

And your planners have been whipping up anger and despair in order to effect a revolution against the people who have done more to make America a prosperous and free nation—the plumbers and soldiers, and teachers and machinists, the waitresses and small business owners, the office workers and homemakers (people of all stripes). In short, the people who support an America First agenda, the Deplorables. A name with which your High Priestess, Hillary Clinton, baptized us.

THE BIG LIE

In order to consolidate your power as elite rulers, New World Order citizens, you have given up even the pretense of a traditional morality. You know Joe Biden didn’t win. But the ends justifies the means to those destined to rule, eh?

Well, let me tell you something. You have lost any claim to a moral authority, let alone the authority to rule over us. And we aren’t going to give up our right to have an equal share in the governance of this great nation. You are not our betters. In fact, your nihilistic death-cult politics has put you far beneath the Average Joe.

You are the ones who are touting post-birth abortions, the mutilation of gender-confused kids, the eugenic fantasies of the academics amongst you. You are the ones who give the masses depraved entertainment that glorifies violence and hedonistic sex, and then point fingers at the mess society has become.

You have the money to mitigate the problems your politics and policies cause on a personal level (your kids are a mess, by the way.) The rest of us are left having to deal with the carnage on the ground with little resources to fix things.

For all your education and connections, you don’t know much at all. I consider you the useful tools in this revolution to overturn our Constitution and usher in a tyrannical world government. History tells us the useful tools always get consumed in the end.

However, the Deplorables will win and you will be saved. But I know you won’t be grateful. You’ll go to your graves lamenting the loss of authority and power of your tribe. The wokeness of the ruling class is a laughable testimony to your gullibility. Mark Twain once said, “All schools, all colleges, have two great functions: to confer, and to conceal valuable knowledge.”

My liberal friends, you have had hidden from you this valuable knowledge:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Your whole political identity is based on the lie that education, money, and position confer intrinsic worth. And that the higher you are in the Ivory Tower (of Babel), the more godlike you become.

I am no longer astonished at your blindness. It’s all been written about before in that Book you either willfully misinterpret or reject outright.

God have mercy on you all. You’re going to need it.

Most Sincerely,

One of 85 Million Deplorables