Dear KAG: 20240917 Open Thread

Okay, it’s Gettysburg rather than Antietam or the Constitution signing, but still….

Badlands News Brief – September 16. 2024

Your Weakness, An Illusion

Huge Supreme Court docs leak exposes chief justice meddling in Trump’s January 6 and election cases – read his memos

It’s the Daily Mail so take it all with a grain of salt.

Layers of the Haiti Exposure

Sean Combs Arrested in Manhattan After Grand Jury Indictment

Would-be Trump assassin exploited security hole that Secret Service has known about for years — and the pictures prove it

EXCLUSIVE: Shoplifting And Vehicle Thefts Soared As Haitian Migrants Poured Into Ohio Town, Police Data Shows

Martin County Sheriff’s Department Release Bodycam Footage of Trump Assassination Suspect Arrested

After Surviving Second Assassination Attempt – President Trump Outlines Details of Leftist and Media Rhetoric Toward Violence

Martin County Sheriff Asks Simple Questions: ‘How Did Ryan Routh Know Where to Be and Did He Act Alone?’

So many questions…..

Florida Governor DeSantis Says He Has Not Spoken to President Trump Since 2nd Assassination Attempt

Senator Josh Hawley Releases Whistleblower Complaint Outlining DHS and Secret Service Issues

Yes, people, that is MY senator talking.

Transition Leader Howard Lutnick Explains President Trump Economic Policy, Tariffs and Energy Inflation

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

Yeah, no.

Yeah, no.

Meme Zone

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1835380578579054628

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

No strings?

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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Luke 9:23-26

23And he said to all, “If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. 24For whoever would save his life will lose it; and whoever loses his life for my sake, he will save it. 25For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself? 26For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

It could happen.


Dear KMAG: 20240916 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

chanticleer

noun

  • a rooster
  • a cock, so called from the clearness or loudness of his voice in crowing
  •  a name for a rooster, used in medieval fables

Shown in art which is then shown in a picture


MUSIC!

Somewhere between Wheatie Music (TM) and Gregorian Chants, lies this stuff.

Nice. I like it!


THE STUFF

Ever wondered about black holes not just “bigger than a breadbox”, but sized somewhere between normal stellar-sized black holes, and the giant ones at the centers of galaxies?

Here you go!

Hope you enjoyed some astronomy!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear MAGA: 20240915 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post, and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

Please show respect and consideration for our fellow QTreepers. Before hitting the “post” button, please proofread your post and make sure your opinion addresses the issue only, and does not confront or denigrate the poster. Keep to the topic – avoid “you” and “your”. Here in The Q Tree, personal attacks, name-calling, ridicule, insults, baiting, and other conduct for which a penalty flag would be thrown are VERBOTEN.

In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores, and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

Please also consider the Guidelines for posting and discussion printed here: 
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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


No Sin? . . . No Sin!!!

As we look around us these days, we’re surrounded and saturated by the evils of this world . . . and it appears to be spreading and getting worse. We’re hopeful that soon we’ll experience a pause in this evil progression with the election of PTrump, but it’s clear that we’re on an inevitable downhill slide to Tribulation. We haven’t seen anything yet. What’s coming will be a tsunami of evil and troubles such as we or the world has never seen.

I don’t want to be here when that happens. And, hopefully, I and we will not be here. We’ll be raised and changed so that sin and troubles will never, ever have even the most remote appearance in our lives. I don’t think we comprehend at all the great impact that it’ll have on us . . . but it will be glorious!!!


The Bible describes heaven or the eternal state in great detail in Revelation chapters 21–22. Nowhere in those chapters is the possibility of sin mentioned. In fact, we have the promise that, in the eternal state, we will never experience death, sorrow, crying, or pain (Revelation 21:4)—the absence of those things is proof positive that sin is also absent, since those things are the product of sin (see Romans 6:23).

The sinful will not be in heaven but in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). Nothing impure will ever enter heaven (Revelation 21:27). Outside of heaven are those who sin (Revelation 22:15). An Old Testament prophecy also assures us that the Kingdom of God will exclude sinfulness:

A highway will be there;
it will be called the Way of Holiness;
it will be for those who walk on that Way.
The unclean will not journey on it;
wicked fools will not go about on it. . . .
But only the redeemed will walk there” (Isaiah 35:8–9).

It will not be possible for us to sin in heaven.

God wills our sanctification (1 Thessalonians 4:3); that is, He wills to make us holy and free of sin. Our sanctification has three phases: the 1st phase saves us from the penalty of sin at the moment of faith in Christ; the 2nd saves us from the power of sin as we grow in Christ; and the 3rd saves us from the presence of sin as we enter the presence of Christ. “When Christ appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is” (1 John 3:2). In other words, the process by which God sanctifies us involves justification, maturation, and glorification.

The glorification that God promises His children (Romans 8:30) includes sinlessness, because sinful beings cannot be glorious. Heaven, the place of God’s glory, is sinless. Paul prays in 1 Thessalonians 5:23, “May the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely”, and he links the glorious appearing of Christ to our personal glorification: “When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory” (Colossians 3:4). This glorified state will be our ultimate separation from sin, a total sanctification in every regard. It will not be possible for us to sin in heaven.

James 1:14 provides another assurance that we will not sin in heaven: “Each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.” In this sinful world, we face temptation daily, and James identifies two forces that prompt us to sin: our own evil desire (our sin nature) and enticement (the devil’s schemes). Neither of those forces will be in heaven. Our sin nature will have been eradicated in our glorification, and the tempter will have been consigned to the lake of fire where he can do us no harm (Revelation 20:10).

The Bible’s teaching is that heaven or the eternal state is completely holy. There will be no possibility of sin, we will be clothed with righteousness (Revelation 19:8), and we will be eternally confirmed in our state of bliss. The work that God promised to complete in us will have been finished (Philippians 1:6). Our deliverance will be complete, as the elect are redeemed – body, soul, and mind – to the glory of the Lamb (Rev. 5:6–10).
xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/heaven-sin.html

COVID – Give Us Your Current Thoughts and Theories

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This is a very open-ended post. The goal is to get YOUR thoughts, opinions, and theories.

Without getting too deep, I can tell you that we are seeing a LOT of COVID in my world. It seems to be everywhere. But some apparent attempts to get masks going again are fizzling out fast, thank goodness.

So I’m curious what others are seeing. But beyond that, we’ve had almost 5 years of COVID in this world – maybe more.

Time for reassessment – particularly prior to the election.

Time for some fresh ground reports.

What think you about COVID?

Tell us what you’re seeing and thinking, please!!!

W

2024·09·14 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson: A Reminder.

And MTG is there to help make it stick.

January 6 tapes. A good start…but then nothing.

Were you just hoping we’d be distracted by the first set and not notice?

Are you THAT kind of “Republican”?

Are you Kevin McCarthy lite?

What are you waiting for?

I have a personal interest in this issue.

And if you aren’t…what the hell is wrong with you?

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $2,498.20
Silver $28.04
Platinum $931.00
Palladium $933.00
Rhodium $5,050.00
FRNSI* 119.850+
Gold:Silver 89.094+

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, Kitco “ask” prices. Markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,578.70
Silver $30.80
Platinum $1,004.00
Palladium $1,092.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 123.745-
Gold:Silver 83.724+

Lots going on…gold surged on Thursday, and I was expecting a beat-down on Friday. Instead, it rose almost 20 more dollars. The FRNSI went up quite a bit, nearly four points! Silver did even better on a percentage basis. Note that an ounce of gold is worth 83.724 ounces of silver…but last week it was worth 89.094 ounces. That means that, in comparison to gold, silver became more valuable.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Piling On

One claim that Flat Earthers (“flerfers”) make is that there aren’t any time lapse videos of the sun doing a full circle around the viewer in Antarctica; that there’s always some sort of eight our gap in the videos.

This is a LIE. Don’t fall for it. Here is FIVE SOLID DAYS worth of timelapse with no hiccups and no breaks, taken in early March just before south polar sunset.

By the way there’s an absolute plethora of videos about the Amundsen Scott station, tours of the main building, tours of the buried areas, tours of the Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory (the largest science experiment by volume), and so on. And plenty of ways to get there as a tourist…provided you have $60K (or more). That’s roughly 24 ounces of gold right now.

Also we have a few cases of flerfers trying to run an experiment and finding they don’t get the results they expected…and not coming to the obvious conclusion.

There are three instances here: One where people stood on opposite sides of a body of water, put lights at 17 feet above water level, then tried to establish a line of site through temporary barriers with holes in them at 17 feet above water level. On a flat earth, there’s be no problem; on a curved earth, however. the barriers in the middle would cut the beam off. And that’s what happened; the light had to be raised a number of feet to be visible through the hole. Second, a gyroscope was seen to precess 15 degrees per hour…as it would if the earth were rotating over a period of 24 hours. On a flat, non-rotating Earth, it shouldn’t precess at all. Third, a striped flag was seen to disappear from the bottom to the top as it sailed off, again, as predicted by Globe Earth but not by Flat Earth.

This all forced the Flat Earth charlatans to do a lot of tap dancing, and one body language expert thinks at least one of the Big Flerfer “names” knows he’s a lying sack of shit. (Well, they didn’t say the “sack of shit” part.)

Mars

A while back I wrote something about why Mars sucks. Meaning, why it had such a thin atmosphere and virtually no surface water. This is interesting because by every indication (everything from visible stream beds on the surface, to minerals that only form in water, to sedimentary rocks which form in fairly stationary bodies of water like lakes and oceans), Mars used to have liquid running water on its surface, which in turn implies it once had a much thicker atmosphere. (There is still a fair amount of water on Mars, in the form of permafrost below the ground. This will be useful should we start human exploration.)

And it turns out that there are two key things going on here: one, Mars has weak surface gravity making it easier for the atmosphere (including water vapor) to escape and two, Mars has no magnetic field, allowing the solar wind to help that process by stripping away the atmosphere. Both in turn are consequences of the fact that it’s considerably smaller than Earth. (There’s no magnetic field because the interior of the planet has cooled off, because it is smaller than Earth, which hasn’t cooled off internally yet, and still has molten iron inside.)

This in turn has a bearing on the question of life. We’re mostly convinced nothing lives on Mars (though there’s a significant minority of scientists who make plausible arguments that there could be). But the tougher question is whether Mars ever had life, back when conditions were much better. That’s largely dependent on how long the conditions were good, how rapidly life actually develops…and whether it’s a rare event even given the right conditions. All of these are very much open questions at the moment; the frontiers of human knowledge.

Time to revisit Mars.

Orbit

First, where is it? Its orbit averages 1.52 AUs in radius…which is to say it’s 52 percent further away from the Sun than is Earth. But that is an average; it varies from 1.38 at one end of the elliptical orbit, to 1.67 AUs at the other. This is a large variance and Mars therefore has a much greater orbital eccentricity than most planets, at 0.0934. (0 is perfectly circular, 0.9 and above are very “cigar” shaped with the Sun close to one end of the cigar. No planet comes close to that though some comets do.) Since Earth is at 1 AU and orbits in 1 sidereal year, it completes one orbit in 1.88 (Earth) years or 686.90 Earth days.

As seen from Earth, Mars moves from west to east against the background stars, usually. It can appear to travel in the opposite direction at times, when we “lap” it in our orbit around the Sun. Here’s an animation from 2020, showing the actual relative positions of Mars and Earth, and an inset showing how Mars appears to move across our sky. (Note how, even though Mars’s orbit appears to be circular, it’s not centered on the Sun; that’s because in fact it is very slightly elliptical.)

If you watched that and paid attention to the trace of Mars across the sky as seen from Earth, you might wonder why it’s not just a straight line. That’s because the two planets don’t orbit in exactly the same plane. The Earth’s orbital plane is the zodiac line, Mars is at a slightly different tilt so even though it roughly follows the zodiac, it doesn’t stay precisely on it.

Surface Conditions

So Mars is significantly further away from the Sun and one would expect it to be colder…and it is, with an average surface temperature of -69C or -60C depending on how you take that average. (This is Antarctic winter type temperatures.) Yes, you will see that it sometimes gets up to +35C, but that’s rare; it’s just as liable to get down to -110C.

What else would you experience on the surface other than it being cucking fold there? Surface gravity is 0.3794 of Earth…almost exactly 3/8ths. (A 98 pound weakling is a 37 pound weakling there.) Air pressure depends on elevation, like it does here on Earth. Our scientists picked an arbitrary “sea level” that is about average for Mars (there is of course no sea), and at that level atmospheric pressure is 0.00628 our sea level pressure…not even one percent! We couldn’t live in that, even if it were pure oxygen, which it is not; it’s 96% CO2. There is a fraction of a percent oxygen but when you multiply that by how thin the air is, it might as well not be there. There is actually more argon than oxygen.

This is not to say there isn’t wind on Mars, and even dust storms, sometimes those storms can cover huge parts of the surface; at least one even covering the entire planet just as our first Mars orbiter arrived in 1971. These tend to happen when Mars is nearest to the Sun, and they help keep it warmer than it otherwise would be.

Another aspect of Martian weather is that the surface radiation is extreme, because there is nothing to block the solar wind and also nothing to block ultraviolet light. Solar flares and the like would cook you just as much as they would on the Moon.

Does Mars have seasons? Yes, cold, and colder. But seriously, yes. The axis is tipped a bit more than 25 degrees, and that causes seasons just as it does on Earth.

The Martian day is 24h 39m 36s long on average. That’s noontime to noontime; to avoid confusion with the Earth day, we call the Martian day a “sol.” Of course since it is orbiting the Sun just like we are, it has to rotate slightly more than one time on its axis to do this, it has to rotate another half degree or so to account for the Sun not being in the same direction against the stars as it was the day before. The true “God’s Eye View” rotation of Mars (i.e., relative to the stars) is 24h 37m 22.7s. Visitors to Mars would have an extra 39.6 minutes to kill every day. And this matters a great deal to some people even now, because Mars surface rovers only function in the daylight (because they run off solar panels, besides, it’s hard to see in the dark anyway). So the scientists and mission controllers here must follow the Martian day night cycle. Imagine a job where every day you have to wake up and go to bed 40 minutes later every day; you’d be out of sync with your family pretty quickly, and it would take about 36 days before things got back in sync.

Size

Mars has a radius of 3396 km, or about 53% of Earth’s. Which means a Mars globe and an Earth globe to scale should have the Earth globe looking about twice the width as the Mars globe.

Mars’s surface area is 144 million square kilometers, 28.4 percent of Earth’s. BUT…Earth is mostly covered by water, so Earth’s land area is 149 million square kilometers. Virtually the same. So there’s a lot of real estate there, however, as of now it’s about as valuable as that land just west of Miami or San Francisco.

Here is a map, with elevation coded by color.

Note the northern hemisphere would largely be ocean, if there were an ocean, with the south almost all highlands. But there is a big basin, the deepest/lowest spot on the planet, in the south at 60 degrees longitude–this is the Hellas basin, and likely an old impact basin. Another smaller basin is at about 320 west. But the true highlands area straddling the equator at 240 degrees is the “Tharsis bulge.” There are three white peaks in a line running southwest to northeast, then west of that, an isolated white peak. That peak is Olympus Mons, the largest volcano known to man. It’s so large you could be on its slope and have no idea you were on a volcano, just that the land has a gentle slope to it.

This thing is BIG. Here it is compared to France.

The other tourist attraction on Mars is Valles Marineris, a canyon 4000 km long, 200 km wide, and up to 7 km deep. It would stretch most of the way across the United States. It cuts through the left hand side of the red area on the map. There are other smaller canyons thought to have been cut by running water, but Valles Marineris is actually thought by some to be a rift zone from plate tectonics, one that failed as the mantle cooled too much for such things. (Photographed in infrared which apparently has better contrast.)

Moons

Mars has two moons, insignificant little things that weren’t discovered until August 12 and 18, 1877, by Asaph Hall. They are too small to have forced themselves into spherical shapes. The inner, larger moon is Phobos (named after the Greek deity of panic and fear) roughly 22 km across (it’s hard to average it when it’s basically shaped like a potato), with Deimos (named after the Greek deity of dread and terror) being 12 km across (same caveat).

The names make sense, because Mars was after all the god of war. (In Greek mythology this god was known as Ares, and a lot of scientific terms to do with Mars actually derive from this root, e.g., “areography” analogous to “geography”)

Phobos has an average orbital radius of 9,377 km, while Deimos has one of 23,460 km. Phobos orbits Mars in a mere 7.66 hours while Deimos orbits in 30.35 hours.

Note that Phobos orbits Mars faster than Mars rotates. These are both in the same direction (counterclockwise as seen from over Mars’s north pole), so Phobos’s actual west to east motion overwhelms its apparent daily east-to-west trip across the sky as Mars rotates. So, it actually rises in the west and sets in the east!

There is some thought that Phobos could be used as a transit point for people traveling to and from Mars; imagine how convenient it would be to set up a space station there. There’s plenty of room for such a thing there.

Exploration of Mars

Mars is undoubtedly the best explored planet other than, of course, Earth. The first successful flyby of another planet was by Mariner 4 in 1965. The first successful orbiter for another planet was Mariner 9 in 1971…at which time Mars was suffering a planet wide dust storm. Fortunately it cleared while the spacecraft was still alive, and we finally discovered the great volcanoes and Valles Marineris. (All prior flybys had just happened to fly by when the wrong side of Mars was presented.) The Soviets tried multiple times but had my luck, having few successes. They were the first to attempt a landing…and failed, repeatedly. They finally succeeded with a flyby about the same time we put Mariner 9 in orbit. (They had better luck with Venus, which is harder. Go figure.)

Finally in July and September 1976 the two Viking landers successfully touched down on Mars. Here is the first photograph taken from the surface of Mars. (With one caveat. The Russians successfully landed on Mars in 1971…but the spacecraft went belly up less than two minutes later, having transmitted part of a picture. I can only imagine the profanity they must have used.)

And a panorama, which I remember being printed on the front page of the newspaper (with messed-up colors that made the sky look blue):

One of their missions was to search for life–presumably microbial life–by running various tests on soil samples. Although most think the tests returned negative results on the whole, there was enough activity in some of the tests that some to this day hold out hope that there was, in fact, life there.

Since then, of course, we’ve had a plethora of orbiters and rovers, but as yet no sample-return mission. China has gotten into the act.

But where to from here? Elon Musk has famously pushed for actual permanent human habitation on Mars, with an aggressive timeline. The idea would be to send one of his Starships to Mars, after refueling in Earth orbit, then on Mars making fuel from the CO2 in the atmosphere and subsurface ice, which would be used to make methane and oxygen. Not the best fuel in the world, but far better than lugging it all the way from Earth (which would require MUCH bigger rockets to launch the mission in the first place). This is similar to the Mars Direct concept put forth in the 1990s by Robert Zubrin, which involves sending a return vehicle first, waiting for the next launch window and sending a habitat with crew and another return vehicle, then again every launch window. Habitats would accumulate on the surface, and fuel would be manufactured for both the return vehicles and for rovers. By spacing the habitats and return vehicles several hundred miles apart, a network of them is eventually set up, and they can even back up for each other in emergencies since they would be in rover range of each other. (And if a previously sent return vehicle fails, there’s one that came with the crew during this launch window.)

Mars is in some ways an ideal target. There are resources there that could be used by human visitors; carbon from the atmosphere, water from subsurface ice. We could breathe there, indefinitely, with help from machinery. We could likely grow food there too. Everything we can create there is less stuff we have to schlep there in the first place. In many ways, it’s a better bet than the Moon, even if it is scores of times further away.

There was an epic set of novels by Kim Stanley Robinson describing the future on Mars, with the first bases, terraforming, and settlement, they are “Red Mars,” “Green Mars” (as some plant life takes hold), and “Blue Mars” as Mars gets an ocean. In fact there’s even a Martian tricolor flag inspired by these classic books, with red, green and blue.

How feasible is that? Can Mars ever be that earthlike?

Maybe more than you might think! It turns out that a big magnet (I can’t seem to locate how powerful it would have to be, but it’s something we could put there) placed at the L1 point between Mars and the Sun might actually be enough so that Mars would find itself in the “tail” of the magnetic field, now protected from the solar wind.

https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-wants-to-launch-a-giant-magnetic-shield-to-make-mars-habitable

The people putting forth this idea claim we might see significant thickening of the Martian atmosphere in years, not decades or centuries. The atmosphere would be mostly carbon dioxide…and that is a greenhouse gas. It might get warm enough even to melt the subsurface water, eventually.

We might not be able to breathe the air, but if the pressure is high enough, we can ditch “space suits” and just wear an oxygen mask over our faces, and maybe a parka if we need to keep warm.

I definitely see our future involving Mars in a big way…provided of course we have a future. I can’t imagine us ever making it if current trends continue…unless Musk is able to pull a rabbit out of his hat, quickly. Because 40 or maybe only 20 years from now we might not have a civilization capable of it any more.

November is important.

Curiosity and the Occult

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I originally thought I would write about the voodoo religion and its practices in this post. Others commented both on the value of that, and of the dangers inherent. Upon reflection, what I will write is more of a treatise on how to research and satisfy the curiosity about this kind of thing, and the obstacles you will encounter.

I will also touch on parts of the practice of voodoo, but not delve too deeply. If, however, you don’t want to associate yourself or read any of it, I don’t blame you. There is a warning below for when I get into some detail.

One must be very careful when researching ANY of the occult religions in this day and time. Sadly, there has been such a fascination with them over the past couple of decades that good factual information can be hard to find. There is a lot of pure bullshit being passed off as real. As an example, I will cite the Druids.

We actually know very little about the Druids, except for the fact that they existed, and that they were scary. Druids kept no written records or history; most of what we know comes from Julius Caesar, who had his own reasons for branding the Druids the way he did.

https://latinitium.com/latin-book-club-julius-caesar-and-the-druids

We know little to nothing about the actual rites, rituals and religious practices of the Druids, however there are groups today who claim to be practicing Druids, with all kinds of rituals and rites they have essentially made up. This has “poisoned the well” of knowledge, so to speak, when looking for good information, because you will find all this made up crap. And since WE know that many so-called “credible” sources have ulterior motivations, even the “scholarly” sources are suspect.

This fascination and reverence for tribal religions also spills over onto things like voodoo and Santeria, another animal-sacrifice religion. There appears to be a sort of “glossy magazine cover” version of these. So, when the researcher goes after real facts, they can be hard to uncover. I have personally seen this in people I know; they become enthralled with the New Orleans voodoo culture, for example, and the scarier parts of it fade to the background. They see the “lighter side,” and ignore the darkness.

I write this only as a warning to you all about digging into this subject. Because it is being “sugar-coated,” it can appear harmless, or at least not nearly as scary as it is.

STOP READING HERE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO READ SOME SCARY PARTS.

For me, the most frightening aspect of voodoo isn’t the animal sacrifice. It is the vacating of the human body to allow for possession by a loa/lwa spirit. This is common in voodoo. They consider the person thus inhabited as the chwal (“horse”) of the loa spirit, that it is “riding.” This kind of thing happens all the time; special ritual or sacrifice is not necessary for the possession to occur.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/j.ctv2t4d7f.16.pdf%3Frefreqid%3Dexcelsior%253A9a59400679b2fb871c3dd74fbe145b44&ved=2ahUKEwjWmML14cCIAxW_weYEHQPIKjUQFnoECBcQAw&usg=AOvVaw1jZKtnNiscQlxJeUIcckXx

The reason why I find this particularly disturbing is, what will happen in our liberal courts when someone claims to have been “possessed” by a loa during the commission of some crime or another? For example, one of the results of loa possession:

“Simpson has noted that in normal, everyday life, there is “considerable sexual modesty among the peasants.”37 The picture changes radically during possession experiences. Huxley writes of the “sexual megalomania” that characterizes many possessions.38 Possessed persons often have to be restrained from taking off their clothes to go naked. Courlander writes of the contempt for proprieties and of the lascivious and lurid behavior and speech of some loa.39 Behavior that would be quite unacceptable to the community and even to the possessed person himself is excused because the loa — not the person being possessed — is responsible for unacceptable behavior and speech.”

https://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/voodoo.htm

This is a religious avenue for irresponsibility for one’s actions. America was founded on freedom of religion, but I doubt if this is what the Founders had in mind.

SCARY PART OVER

If you choose to delve into research of any occult religion, be aware that many so-called “Neopagans” have co-opted and bastardized real practices into their own forms. Our society is currently very, very sick with what seems like “cult fever” to me. So many people have rejected Christianity for some flavor of tribal religion that they know very little about. They just make it up as they go along, and it all ends up posted somewhere on the internet.

I am going to sign off with this:

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done; on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

Medicinal Cordials Open Thread: Health Friday 2024.09.13

The above image of vintage pharmacy bottles for medicinal cordials is courtesy of Wikipedia.

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Today’s offering for Health Friday is one of a “slightly different path” — it regards Medicinal Cordials. It is a fascinating history that traces at least as far back to Italy during the 15th and 16th Centuries (the Renaissance period.) At that time, medicinal cordials were created and sold by apothecaries (what would now be called Pharmacists.) The craft spread quickly among western European countries (France, Spain, Germany, and England.) Medicinal cordials were originally used to “release” diseases from the body of the patient; to assist in the “renewal” of the diseased body, mind, and spirit; and, to “renew the natural heat” of the body. There were medicinal cordials that had flecks of gold. crushed pearls, or crushed coral added to them, as these items were thought to “assist” the mechanism of the drink. Medicinal cordials eventually “evolved” along two paths: One, into what became “patent medicines”; and, Two, into what are now called “digestifs” and non-medicinal cordials or liqueurs. A “separate” path of development produced a kind of “medicinal beer.” Some medicinal cordials had no alcoholic content at all; others had varying amounts of alcohol content. Some medicinal cordials were made from flowers and spices; others contained herbs and wood derivatives; still others were made of only from herbs and spices. They were (and, along with their modern-day versions of liqueurs, still are), distinct from “fortified wines”, such as Sherry or Vermouth; and, from certain other types of “alcohol + derived ingredient drinks”, such as Ouzo. There are “modern-day” types of “medicinal cordials” available: for example, https://texasmedicinals.com/, which produces and sells various cordials tinctures and elixirs made of flowers, herbs, and spices.

Certain orders of Roman Catholic monks were also involved in the making and providing of medicinal cordials. The famous cross between a medicinal cordial and a “digestif”, D.O.M. Benedictine, was first created by the Benedictine monks at the Abbey of Fecamp, France, in 1510. A French merchant, Alexandre Le Grand, found the original recipe in 1863 (it had been considered lost), and eventually recreated it as the drink sold today. Please see: https://wineanthology.com/1943-benedictine-dom-liqueur. The current product is no longer strictly a “medicinal cordial”, but is a liqueur. The exact ingredients are a secret, but the mixture is believed to contain hyssop, juniper, aloe, and cinnamon, among others. Please see: www.catalystplanet.com/travel-and-social-action-stories/2022/04/12/5-alcoholic-drinks-made-by-european-monks.

Then, there is Chartreuse, first created by the Carthusian monks of the Grande Chartreuse Monastery near Grenoble, France. A blend of distilled alcohol and 130 other ingredients (herbs and flowers among them), it is also no longer strictly a “medicinal cordial”, but a liqueur. (However, along with D.O.M. Benedictine, Chartreuse is still considered to have medicinal properties.) Chartreuse is available in “yellow” or “green” hues, which are different in their alcohol content. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(liqueur). There is also a version available, Chartreuse Vegetal, that is 138-Proof (www.luekensliquors.com/), search “Chartreuse Vegetal.” There are some websites that claim to have the ingredients of the recipe for Chartreuse; other websites have instructions on how to create a kind of “clone” of the recipe.

The Christian Brothers (originally, the De La Salle Christian Brothers), another Roman Catholic religious order of monks, began to grow and produce wines in the Martinez area of California around 1880. They expanded to include vineyards and wineries in the Napa Valley. They now produce altar wines for use in the Mass, and certain types of Brandy. They do not produce medicinal cordials or liqueurs. Please see: www.montlasallealtarwines.com/forms/MLS_History.pdf.

Drambuie, a whisky-based liqueur made in Scotland, is thought to have been created by “Bonnie Prince Charlie” (Prince Charles Edward Stewart) in 1745. A blend of malt whisky, honey, herbs, and spices, it was used as a medicinal cordial. The modern-day product is a Scottish whisky-based liqueur. Please see: www.thespruceeats.com/drambuie-liqeueur-profile-and-cocktals-760270.

Among other types of liqueurs, there are ones made of mostly flower or flower-herb bases. Some of these were originally used as “medicinal cordials.” Modern-day examples are: Vespetro (Italy); Becherovka Original (Czech Republic); St.-Germain Elder Flower Liqueur (France); and, American Elderberry Cordial (Missouri; no alcohol.)

And, yes, there is a kind of “medicinal beer” — Trappist beer, made by Trappist (Cistercian) monks. There are only a handful of Trappist monasteries that brew authentic Trappist beer or ale; they are governed by the International Trappist Association (ITA.) The recipe, a secret known only to a few of the monks, is thought to include herbs and spices. There is a “light” and a “dark” version of Trappist beer or ale (https://beerconnoisseur.com/articles/almighty-trappist-ale.) It is thought that the brew contains certain spices, such as cinnamon and coriander, in the mixture. For persons interested in making a “home-brew Trappist-style version” of the product, please see: https://beersmith.com/blog/2010/09/01/trappist-dubbel-and-tripel-recipes/.

However, there was a “darker side” to medicinal cordials — those that were used to quiet restless or ill babies and children. These were actually “patent medicines”; two such products were “Godfrey’s Cordial” and “Dalby’s Carminative.” They were used in England and the United States during the 18th and early 19th Centuries. The main ingredient of each of these “cordials” was opium — “Godfrey’s Cordial” had one ounce of opium for each two ounces of the product; “Dalby’s Carminative” contained 1/4 ounce of opium for each two ounces of the product. The number of babies and children who died from taking these products is not known. In addition, there was the original recipe for “Creme de Noyaux”, from Yvelines, France. This “cordial”, made from apricot or peach kernels, or cherry pits, could accumulate trace amounts of hydrogen cyanide (a poison.) The longer this “cordial” was kept in storage, the greater the potential for the hydrogen cyanide to accumulate and collect at the top of the bottle — an unsuspecting imbiber could be badly poisoned upon taking a glass of it. The recipe was re-formulated a few years ago by the Tempus Fugit company to remove all traces of the poison. (This formulation would appear to be the “safest” for Creme de Noyaux.)

There are sources online that can assist interested persons who wish to create cordials or liqueurs at home. One source is here: https://theherbalacademy.com/. Another source (which also has a history of medicinal cordials) is here: https://traditionalroots.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Herbal-Cordials-and-Liqueurs-2_16.pdf, by Glen Nagel, ND (Naturopathic Doctor.) Here is an image of an Alembic Still, used to create home-made cordials or liqueurs (courtesy of Glen Nagel):

Interested persons should note that taking modern-day “versions” of medicinal cordials or liqueurs does not replace consulting a healthcare practitioner regarding health concerns; also, they should also investigate ingredients in home-made “medicinal cordials or liqueurs” to make sure none of them would interact with any prescription drugs, OTC drugs, and/or other herbals that the person is already taking. For example, the Gentian used in this home-made herbal “cordial” can interact with prescription drugs for high blood pressure, as Gentian is may lower blood pressure (www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-716/gentian, click on “Interactions.”)

Cordials glasses are usually small and hold no more than 2 to 4 ounces of the cordial. They are used to serve the drink at room temperature or chilled, and usually without other items mixed in. Some types of cordials glasses are also used to serve liqueurs. An example of vintage cranberry red cordials glasses is below, courtesy of https://rustedlove.com/:

Due to the varying alcohol content of cordials or liqueurs, and to their unique flavors, the modern-day versions of these products are often added to mixed drinks.

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TWEETS!

And…all the evidence of one HUGE anti-trust lawsuit against the Rockefellers, supposedly.

My one brother had a roommate in college who was from Puerto Rico. He said straight out that the people of Haiti are 96% Catholic and 100% Voodoo. Of course, the two are not compatible, but the Haitians compromise.

Most of us dog people are not exactly cat people, but the cats may need the dogs for protection. Cats do have a place in life…even if some of us are allergic to them.

No kidding.

Great. We upstream in the Mississippi River Valley are anxiously awaiting what’s left of Francine when she gets here. We need the rain. Badly.

MEMES and FUN STUFF

Back when we used them as trash liners and book covers at least they had a second life.

I’m not sure this is really true about the cures, but a cured patient is a customer lost.

Unless I miss my guess, that’s the Lowenbrau tent. I was there in 1999.

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46And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.”

So many settings of this text….

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WEEKEND STARTER

Limoncello Spritz

Ingredients

  • 1 tbsp limoncello
  • Chilled dry Prosecco
  • lemon slice

Instructions

  • 1. Pour limoncello into a champagne flute or coupe glass. Top with prosecco. Garnish with lemon slice.

Limoncello…rooftop in Rome 2009…Barb…yeah, she had too much.

Have a good one y’all.

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In this article I am going to take a closer look at Saudi Arabia. It is long because there has been an effort to paint ALL of those of the Muslim faith as EVIL. I hope to add shades of grey and even white to this completely black image.

Dr. John Coleman, a former British Intelligence agent… states in his report on Iran’s Islamic Revolution (11) that the Muslim Brotherhood was created by “the great names of British Middle East intelligence” …and that their mission was to “keep the Middle East backward so that its natural resource, oil, could continue to be looted…”

As Historical Background: Who Really Created the Middle East Terror Apparatus?

…The Arab Revolt of 1916-1918, had been, to the detriment of the Arab people, a British led rebellion. The British claimed that their sole interest in the affair was the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire and 👉had given their word that these Arab territories would be freed and allowed independence if they agreed to rebel…

👉It is a rather predictable feature of the British to lie and double cross and thus should be of no surprise to anyone that 👉their intentions were quite the opposite of what they had promised and thanks to the Skyes-Picot Russian leak [655] were revealed in their entire shameful glory….

Footnote: #655: Skyes-Picot (December 5, 1917) The Ambassador in Russia (Francis) to the Secretary of State. Office of the Historian, https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/fus1917Supp)2v)1/d416

One of the consequences of the Bolshevik Revolution which started in March 1917, was their acquiring of the Skyes-Picot papers which the Russian government under Tsar Nicholas II had copies of, and which the Bolsheviks promptly leaked such that the secretive imperialist plan for the Middle East was revealed to the entire world.

More from this book chapter below.

Next I want to start with the beginning of President Trump’s administration. However first I want to point to the fact that Saudi Arabia CHANGED LEADERSHIP in 2015 and thus changed direction. This is a critical point. Prior to that the Arab king was under the British thumb and was kept from developing manufacturing just as Africa was, but I can not find the specific article. So it was probably one of several videos I watched. I did find this:

Britain’s Enduring Relationship with Saudi Arabia

and
Manufacturing in Saudi Arabia: Vision for Diversification

Manufacturing in Saudi Arabia is 👉now central to the Kingdom’s ambitious economic development strategy.

On to 2017, POTUS Trump and Saudi Arabia.

May 20, 2017 Daily Mail Trumps on tour: Donald and Melania (plus Ivanka) are greeted by the Saudi king as they land in Riyadh for his crucial first test abroad

  • President touched down in Saudi Arabia after flying overnight on Air Force One to Middle Eastern state
  • 👉Saudi King presented Trump with the kingdom’s top civilian honor, the gold King Abdulaziz medal
  • After two days of meetings in Riyadh, during which he is set to call for Arab nations to help in the fight against ISIS, Trump will travel to Israel
  • He will then have an audience with Pope Francis at the Vatican on Wednesday
  • 👉Trump has become the only US president to make Saudi his first overseas stop


Saudi Arabia’s King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (right) welcomes 👉Donald Trump and 👉first lady Melania Trump at the airport [Notice it is NOT President Trump.]

1 min video by AP

30 seconds:

10 minutes:

The Guardian: Saudi leaders hail Trump visit as 👉‘reset of regional order

In addition to proposing a series of deals, 👉Saudi officials have also accepted a central theme of Trump’s visit of tackling radicalism. Saudi Arabia had been accused by the Obama administration of proselytising an extreme Wahhabi view of Islam…


One particular moment from that event, however, stands out. It’s a moment when ?Mr?🤔 Trump, along with Saudi Arabia’s King Salman and Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, have their hands placed on a glowing orb while standing in a vast, dark hall. According to local media, the leaders placed their hands on the illuminated globe and “officially activated the centre and launched a splashy welcome video.”

I want to add to this a key item.

Saudi Prince  Alwaleed bin Talal Pledges $32 Billion to Promote Islam/Sharia in America

By Pamela Geller – on July 9, 2015 [USA under Obama]

…The Saudis have spent billions already. 80% of the mosques  build in America are Saudi funded… And it’s not just the media that is on the receiving end of this blood money, but also Muslim Brotherhood fronts like CAIR, which spend millions whining about how lucrative the “islamophobia” business is….

It is important to remember Alwaleed no longer holds power here or in Saudi Arabia, except thru Obama.

….
A few months later, in the fall, Q appeared on the Chans and makes several drops about the ‘Bloody Wonderland’ aka Saudi Arabia. Q used the Socratic Method by asking a series of questions. The Anons respond by using open source information. I am going to use Q drops/questions and Anon answers since it is readily available information.

Here is a link to Q drops on Las Vegas, Obama, Alwaleed, Clinton, Huma & HUMA, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD [MB] and the Saudi Purge. You can look at them or not as you will.

https://qalerts.app/?q=saudi+

Q also covers the Las Vegas shooting, pointing out some fascinating connections.

https://qalerts.app/?q=las+vegas

Two of these Q Drops ask a series of interesting questions. My comments are in [brackets.]

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Nov 05, 2017 1:55:46 AM EDT

Seth Rich only mentioned because it directly relates to SA.

LAS VEGAS.

What hotel did the ‘reported’ gunfire occur from?

What floors specifically?

Who owns the top floors? [Al Waleed & Bill Gates]

Top floors only.

Why is that relevant?

What was the shooter’s name?

What was his net worth?

How do you identify a spook?

What can historical data collection reveal?

Was there any eye witnesses?

Who?

Was he registered as a security guard?

Why is MS13 important? [Q alleges the Deep State used MS 13 to assassinate Seth Rich]

What doesn’t add up?

Was there only one shooter? [Multiple]

Why was JFK released?

What do the JFK files infer? [CIA behind the assassination]

Was there only one shooter? [No]

Who was in LV during this time? [Prince Mohammed bin Salman]

What was the real mission? [Assassinate Prince]

Speculate.

Why are survivors dying randomly? [They say there are multiple shooters]

What do each of these survivors have in common?

Did they talk on social media?

What did they say?

Were they going to form a group?

Why is this relevant?

How did they die?

What CIA report was released by WK?

What can control a car?

How did the (2) of the survivors die?

Car crash?

How does this connect to SA?

What just happened in SA?

Who owns the top floors of the hotel?

What happened today in SA? [Saudi Purge]

To who specifically? [Alwaleed]

Was POTUS in LV that night? [Yes]

Yes/no?

Why was he there? [to meet with Prince Mohammed bin Salman]

Who did he have a classified meeting with? [Saudi Crown Prince]

Did AF1 land at McCarran?

What unmarked tail numbers flew into McCarren that night?

Trace AF1 that entire day.

What do you notice?

Classified.

Q

With these questions, Q implies POTUS Trump and the Saudi Crown Prince were in Las Vegas for a classified meeting. Information was leaked and an assassination plotted. The Saudi Crown Prince was the target and Americans would be left with the stigma and MORE hatred by Muslims. The FBI helped cover-up the plot.


A later Q Drop was posted on the same day, November 5th . Stormy Patriot Joe has mentioned that for very important information Q will do multiple drops of similar info.

I want to point out this information up front.

HUMAHarvard University Muslim Alumni founded in 2004.

…In 2016, HUMA hosted its first Islamic Finance Conference – a member-guided event that leveraged our members’ interest and expertise in the field of Islamic Finance.

The 2016 Conference aimed to bring together thought-leaders, practitioners, scholars and students in a critical and productive dialogue to assess the role that Islamic Finance can play in realizing the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)…

Notice WHO supports HUMA.

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👉 Important Context:

What have you learned about HUMA?

What organization is HUMA?

Which US President is affiliated w/ HUMA? [Obama & George W. Bush]

Why is this relevant?

What year(s) did this occur? [Obama- 1991 grad]

Who funded on behalf this President? [Alwaleed]

Why is this relevant?

What year(s) did this occur?

What just happened in SA? [Purge]

Who was arrested? [Al Waleed and others]

Funds frozen.

Why would this former President be funded pre-political days?

Repeat.

Important.

Why would this former President be funded pre-political days?

Why is the relevance?

Was the MB [Muslim Brotherhood] affiliated to any of these organizations/people?

Fast forward.

Why are the events in SA so important? [It was the setting up of the Abraham Accords and the start of the destruction of terrorist networks.]

Why was JK in SA recently? [To begin the process.]

Why was POTUS’ last Tweet re: SA prior to the happening?

Why was POTUS’ Twitter taken down days before under cover of a rogue employee?

Refocus again. [Trump Tweet was thought to be the GO signal for the Purge.]

Who was arrested in SA?

Any ownership stakes in US co’s?[Alwaleed owned stakes in Four Seasons Hotel Group, News Corporation – Fox News – Citibank, Apple, TimeWarner, Motorola, 360buy, AOL, eBay, Euro Disney, and Twitter]

Why is this relevant?

Twitter.

LAS VEGAS.

Recent events.

Why would investment be made in a former President pre-political days? [Alwaleed in Obama.]

What year(s) did this occur?

What faith does HUMA represent?

What faith does the MB represent?

What faith does Huma represent?

Who are the bad actors?

Who funds majority of US ‘senior’ politicians? [Large corporations controlled by financiers/bankers]

Fantasy land.

Fantasy land.

Was the former President of the United States groomed to be Command in Chief? [YES!]

Is this possible? [Think CIA, Mockingbird Media ]

Is the US political / election system corrupt? [YES!]

Who owns poll machines?

Soros?

Why is this relevant?

They never thought she would lose.

They never thought she would lose.

Fantasy land.

Fantasy land.

The complete picture would put 99% of Americans (the World) in a hospital.

POTUS is our savior.

Pray.

Operators are active.

We are at war.

Goodnight BO. [Barack Obama]

Snow White. [Hillary Clinton]

Godfather III. [Music played when black hats assassinated AND when POTUS nominated in 2024.]

Q


Pepe Lives Matter does a more in-depth look at these Q drops —

Saudi Arabia, Trump, The Vegas shooting, and the Fall of the Old Guard

In 2019 I wrote an Article on Las Vegas but I missed the Saudi Arabian connection.

AND Logic: The Conspiracy to Ban Guns

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Then there is the more mainstream view:

Las Vegas mass shooting | AP News

It now goes to a page of stories they WANT you to read. 🙄

On October 1, 2017, a mass shooting occurred in Las Vegas. 58 people were killed, and almost 500 others were injured. A month later, on the Night of November 4, 2017 there was The Purge of the Royal House of Saud. 👈This article seems to be a good explanation of what happened.

And then there is this bafflegab by the bought and paid for BRITISH Urinalist, James Corbett.

5 Things You Need to Know About the Saudi Purge

About the Author of the above piece of DRECK…

James Corbett was brought up in Liverpool and educated at the London School of Economics. As a journalist Corbett has reported from all over the world for the BBC, The Guardian, The Observer, The Independent, The Blizzard and numerous other publications. — WIKI

The following makes this an interesting article because:

A. The guy is Englishman (Think UK cooperation in Russia Hoax & the Guardian insulting MR Trump.)

B. He is a graduate of the FABIAN’S London School of Economics.

C. The UK’s continued involvement meddling in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East.

Corbett starts off with gossip:

from @mujtahidd, an anonymous Twitter user who has two million followers

The gist is an anonymous yacht, at the Jeddah port picks up several boxes containing $1 billion cash. “…and the whole incident took place while Trump was busy bowing to MBS’ father, King Salman…”

Corbett then says:

An incredible story, to be sure. Phenomenal, even. Trump bribed by the Saudi Crown Prince to the tune of $1 billion? The beloved POTUS [He forgot the sarc tag.] selling out his country in return for some cold hard cash? It could be the scandal of the century, 👉and it seems to explain so much. [PLANTS IDEA]

After all, Trump’s genuflections toward the Saudi royals (literal as well as figurative) and his profusions of great confidence” in those same royals even as they commit a chaotic and bloody purge stand in stark contrast to the rhetoric of candidate Trump. Lest we forget, it was just over one year ago that Trump was railing against Clinton for accepting money from those gay-killing, women-enslaving Saudi fiends and openly ruminating about Saudi connections to 9/11. [Alwaleed to be exact.]

But is it true? Was there really a private yacht in Jeddah Port? A team of shadowy men from MBS’ inner circle? The billion dollars in cash? Who knows!

….And, true or not, 👉it’s being reported on by “reputable” outlets. [Here he DRIVES HOME THE IDEA] And why not? It’s salacious. It’s tantalizing. 👉And it makes just enough sense to be not entirely implausible. [And re-emphasizes the idea.]

…In a sense, the yacht story is a good window into the chaotic “anti-corruption” purge taking place in Saudi Arabia right now, which has so far netted 201 people (and, not incidentally, 1,700 bank accounts and other assets totaling a cool $800 billion)…

There are some things that we do know about what’s going on, and as it turns out, these things are pretty important. So let’s examine five things we know (or need to know) about the Saudi purge. [Rest of article for paid members only]

Notice how he has subtlety planted the ‘Trump Was Bribed’ idea and then reinforces that this could actually be a TRUE story all the while maintaining plausible deniability. This is ESPECIALLY TRUE for anyone not a paid subscriber.

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BRITAIN, ARABIA, EGYPT & THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

So far I have IDed several players. They are the UK, including the Rothschilds, and PROGRESSIVE Fabians. Certain factions within Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Certain factions within the USA . In this article I am only going to look at the connections between the Middle East and Britain.

I am including this because WWI and WWII play a very big part in the story.

As promised at the begining, here is more from the chapter of Cynthia’s book. I get the feeling she has as much ‘love’ of the British Empire Commonwealth as I do.

Who Really Created the Middle East Terror Apparatus?

by Cynthia Chung (Matt Ehret’s wife)

The following is a chapter from my book The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set.

[Excerpt from the substack. It is worth reading the entire chapter esp the end where she discusses the Brits involvement in forming the Muslim Brotherhood — GC]

…In order for all Arab leaders to sign on to the idea of rebelling against the Ottoman Sultan, there needed to be a viable leader that was Arab, for they certainly would not agree to rebel at the behest of Britain. Lord Kitchener, the Butcher of Sudan, was to be at the helm of this operation as Britain’s Minister of War. Kitchener’s choice for Arab leadership was the scion of the Hashemite dynasty, Hussein ibn Ali, known as the Sherif of Mecca who ruled the region of Hejaz under the ottoman Sultan. Charles Hardinge of the British India Office disagreed with this choice and wanted Wahhabite Abdul-Aziz ibn Saud instead. However, Lord Kitchener over-ruled this stating that their intelligence revealed that more Arabs would follow Hussein. [Notice the Brits double-crossed Hussein and eventually gave Arabia to the Saud’s instead. — GC]

Since the Young Turk Revolution which seized the Ottoman government in 1908, Hussein was very aware that his dynasty was in no way guaranteed and thus was open to Britain’s invitation to Crown him King of the Arab kingdom. Kitchener wrote to one of Hussein’s sons, Abdallah, as reassurance of Britain’s support: “If the Arab nation assist England in this war that has been forced upon us by Turkey, England will guarantee that no internal intervention take place in Arabia, and will give Arabs every assistance against Foreign aggression.” [653]

Sir Henry McMahon who was the British High Commissioner to Egypt, would have several correspondences [654] with Sherif Hussein between July 1915 to March 1916 to convince Hussein to lead the rebellion for the ‘independence’ of the Arab states. 

However, in a private letter to India’s Viceroy Charles Hardinge, sent December 4th, 1915, McMahon expressed a rather different view of what the future of Arabia would be, contrary to what he had led Sherif Hussien to believe: “I do not take the idea of a future strong united independent Arab State… too seriously… the conditions of Arabia do not and will not for a very long time to come, lend themselves to such a thing”

Such a view meant that Arabia would be subject to Britain’s heavy handed ‘advising’ in all its affairs, whether it sought it or not. [This is why I think it is true the Brits kept control and blocked Arab industrialization. GC]

In the meantime, Sherif Hussein was receiving dispatches issued by the British Cairo Office to the effect that the Arabs of Palestine, Syria, and Mesopotamia (Iraq) would be given independence guaranteed by Britain, if they rose up against the Ottoman Empire.

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. [France puts in their 2 cents, also claiming territory based on the Crusades. ]

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Once the Arab Revolt was ‘won’ against the Ottoman Empire, instead of the promised Arab independence, the Middle East was carved up into zones of influence under British and French colonial rule. Puppet monarchies were created in regions that were considered not under direct colonial subjugation in order to continue the illusion that Arabs remained in charge of sacred regions such as Mecca and Medina.

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.[various British military actions in the Middle East]

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While the British were promising Arab rule… the British were simultaneously promising a homeland in Palestine to the Jews…

#653 Fromkin David (1989) A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East…..

#654 McMahon – Hussein Correspondence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon%E2%80%93Hussein_correspondence

These underhanded dealings by the Brits remind me of the Minsk agreements between Russia & Ukraine where they were signed only to buy time and with ZERO intention of actually honoring the agreement. Notice it is the BRITS who stepped in to prevent a peace deal in Ukraine.

Essentially the Brits FORMED the Muslim Brotherhood. On page 281 Cynthia Chung has a subchapter: THE RISE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD (MIDDLE OF THE ARTICLE)

Cynthia’s substack has screenshots of her book so I am not going to hand type any more than the excerpt above. Please at least glance thru her substack. I found it fascinating.

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Breaking History Ep. 41 With Cyhthia’s husband, Matt Ehret and Gordon McCormick (Ghost of Based Patrick Henry)

The part I am most interested in is this:

Roughly transcribed

1:38:50 Evelyn Baring. 1st earl of Cromer. The Baring bank was one of oldest merchant banks in UK. The bank collapsed in 1995 and was sold for 1 pound.

👉 Baring served as British Controller of Egypt starting 1879 as result of Egypt’s bankruptcy of 1876. Due to the US Civil War there was no US cotton, Egypt does well then after war the UK uses US cotton to UNDERCUT the market and drive Egypt into bankruptcy. As result Egypt loses control of their share of Suez canal to the UK…. 👉 OH and this guy is ALSO the founder of the schools that created the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

So is this correct?

Free Masonry in Egypt this has photos of Cairo loge meets in the 1940s.

Victoria College: The Incubator of Kings, Celebrities – A British-Style Public School Rooted in Egyptian Soil

WIKI

Evelyn Baring, 1st Earl of Cromer, GCB, OM, GCMG, KCSI, CIE, PC, FRS (/ˈkroʊmər/; 26 February 1841 – 29 January 1917) was a British statesman, diplomat and colonial administrator. He served as the British controller-general in Egypt during 1879, part of the international control which oversaw Egyptian finances after the Egyptian bankruptcy of 1876. He later became the agent and consul-general in Egypt from 1883 to 1907 during the British occupation, prompted by the Urabi revolt. This position gave Baring de facto control over Egyptian finances and governance.

According to Sanderson Beck’s Egypt, Sudan, and Libya 1700-1950 Hasan al-Banna had founded the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928.

If you want to know WHO this Historian is read:

World Peace Communications An Open Letter on July 3, 2024 To President Joseph Biden & Vice President Kamala Harris

or

UNITING HUMANITY by Spiritual Evolution & Democratic Revolution: Solutions to the Megacrisis of Climate, Poverty & War

Then there is the other interpretation:

The Roots of Islamic Terrorism

As we related in Part One, the British used Islam to legitimize their puppet rulers in Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Palestine after taking over the Middle East in World War I. Because of this Islam was seen by much of the Arab populace as just another part of the corrupt colonial establishment. That is why 👉the legitimate anti-colonial movements, such as those of Nasser, Mossadegh and Bhutto, were primarily secular in nature. When these nationalist movements began to succeed outside of the British sphere of influence the British turned to their Islamic allies to subvert these independent regimes.

👉The Muslim Brotherhood stands out as the most important counter-revolutionary movement of this period in the Middle East, 👉and one of the British-based Globalists’ most important strategic assets today.

The Muslim Brotherhood emerged out of Egypt in 1928 to evolve into “the largest and most influential Sunni revivalist organization in the 20th century.” It was founded by Hasan al-Banna, the first son of a respected sheik who was also an author and the leader of a local mosque. Hasan was born in 1906 and was brought up immersed in Islam under his father’s tutelage. He memorized the Koran and at age twelve he founded an organization called the Society For Moral Behavior….

In Part One of this study 👉we related several allegations that the Muslim Brotherhood was created, infiltrated, or at least promoted by British Intelligence and/or British Freemasonry. Dr. John Coleman alleges that it was created by “the great names of British Middle East intelligence…”, Stephen Dorril writes that the Brotherhood was linked to British Intelligence through dame Freya Stark prior to World War II, and the Shah’s regime in Iran considered it to be a tool of British Freemasonry.

Some Muslims will find these claims hard to believe but they should not be rejected out of hand. Hasan al-Banna was a devout Muslim who put Islam first but it should not be considered inconceivable that he was influenced by Britain’s Masonic Brotherhood, or that he accepted British aid to advance his movement, at least in the early stages….

There was of course an ulterior motive for Cromer making Abduh the most powerful figure in all of Islam. You see, in 1898 the ruling council of Al-Azhar University had reaffirmed that usury, and thus banking according to the Western model, was harem (illegal) according to Islamic Law. This was unacceptable to Lord Cromer because his given name happened to be Evelyn Baring – he was an important member of England’s prestigious Baring banking family that had grown rich off of the opium trade in India and China….

👉Lord Cromer installed his friend Sheikh Abduh to change the law forbidding banking, and once he was made Grand Mufti he used a very liberal and creative interpretation of the Quran to fabricate a loophole that allowed the forbidden practice of usury. British banks then had free reign to dominate Egypt. In Lord Cromer’s writings he says, “I suspect my friend Abduh was in reality an agnostic,” and he commented on Abduh’s Salafiyya movement saying, “They are the natural allies of the European reformer.” Even Cromer saw that the Islamist movement could be used to Britain’s advantage…


The Author of the above article, Peter Goodgame, has written 6 books this is the back of one.

LINK of Book Back I can not get it to show.

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February 17, 2006 Our Sordid Love Affair With London’s Muslim Brotherhood

by Jeffrey Steinberg

BOOK REVIEW

Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam
by Robert Dreyfuss

This reviewer recently attended a conference at the U.S. Senate, which was billed as a symposium of experts on al-Qaeda. I asked a panel of three of the leading “experts” about the links between al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood, and I mentioned that the staff reports of the 9/11 Commission had noted that the purported mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, had been captured, and had boasted that he had been recruited to the Muslim Brotherhood at the age of 16. The question drew blank stares from the self-professed al-Qaeda experts, and none chose to answer. In fairness, one of the three approached me afterwards, to say that he did know something about the Brotherhood ties to al-Qaeda, but he felt that the audience, made up of senior Congressional staffers and think-tank policy wonks, was incapable of understanding the complicated answer he would have had to give.

The incident offers a telling snapshot of the state of affairs among so-called terrorism experts, many of whom boast of degrees in sociology, psychology, and computer science. Few have a grasp of history, and even fewer attempt to draw the lessons of history in peddling their dubious expertise. When I recounted the incident at the terrorism symposium to several retired military and intelligence officers who do have credentials as Middle East specialists, they shook their heads in pained acknowledgement of the problem.

Fortunately, author Robert Dreyfuss has provided a timely work that offers some relief to this major deficiency in our so-called Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) in particular, and American diplomacy and intelligence operations in general. 

👉 Devil’s Game provides a vivid picture of how the United States has spent the last century being dragged into a Middle East quagmire by a British imperial apparatus that has sponsored and manipulated Islamic fundamentalism, since the first hours of the era of petroleum politics at the end of the 19th Century.👈

👉Dreyfuss’s work combines a careful and thoroughly readable survey of the major academic literature on the history of the Muslim Brotherhood and its various 20th-Century offshoots, with interviews with some of America’s senior Middle East diplomats and intelligence officers….

BRITAIN’S IMPERIAL SYNARCHY

Although the Muslim Brotherhood was formally launched in Egypt in 1928, the roots of the British-sponsored Freemasonic secret society date further back two generations, to the last quarter of the 19th Century. At that time, British intelligence sponsored the career of a Persian-born Shi’ite named Jamal Eddine, later known as Jamal Eddine al-Afghani (1838-97). A British (and French) Freemason and a professed atheist, al-Afghani spent his entire adult life as an agent of British intelligence, fomenting “Islamist” insurrections where they suited British imperial goals. At points in his fascinating career, he served as Minister of War and Prime Minister of Iran, before leading an insurrection against the Shah. He was a founder of the Young Egypt movement, which was part of a worldwide network of British Jacobin fronts that waged war against Britain’s imperial rivals during the second half of the 19th Century. In Sudan, following the Mahdi-led nationalist revolt and the murder of Britain’s Lord Gordon, al-Afghani organized an “Islamist” counterrevolution in support of a restoration of British colonial control.

In the finest “Venetian” tradition, al-Afghani promoted a doctrine of “economy of truth”—i.e., truth as an instrument of imperial intrigues. He adopted the name “al-Afghani” to conceal his Persian birth and his Shi’ite Muslim roots, to better serve his British handlers in the largely Sunni regions where he operated. He also spoke cynically of “the social utility of religion.”

Al-Afghani was backed by one of Britain’s leading Orientalists, Edward Granville Browne, and whenever he ran out of cash, he made a bee-line for London, where he was always provided with funding, a publishing house, and other amenities.

Al-Afghani’s leading disciple and fellow British agent was Mohammed Abduh (1849-1905). The Egyptian-born Abduh 👉founded the Salafiyya movement, under the patronage of the British proconsul of Egypt, Evelyn Baring (Lord Cromer).👈 In the 1870s, al-Afghani and Abduh founded the Young Egypt movement, which battled against secular Egyptian nationalists. In the mid-1880s, the two men moved to Paris, where they launched a magazine under British and French Freemasonic sponsorship, called Indissoluble Bond. There are some accounts of al-Afghani’s and Abduh’s three years in Paris that suggest that they were in direct contact with St. Yves d’Alveydre, the founder of the Synarchist movement. From Paris, the duo returned to London.

In 1899, two years after al-Afghani died, Lord Cromer made Abduh the Grand Mufti of Egypt. Abduh in turn, begat Mohammed Rashid Rida (1865-1935), a Syrian who migrated to Egypt to become Abduh’s leading disciple. Rida founded the organization that would be the immediate precursor to the Muslim Brotherhood, the Society of Propaganda and Guidance. That Freemasonic organization published a journal, The Lighthouse, which provided “Islamist” backing to the British colonial rule over Egypt, by attacking Egyptian nationalists as “atheists and infidels.” In Cairo, under British patronage, Rida launched the Institute of Propaganda and Guidance, which brought in Islamists from every part of the Muslim world to be trained in political agitation. Rida and other disciples of Abduh founded the People’s Party, which openly agitated in support of British colonial rule.

One graduate of the Institute for Propaganda and Guidance, who also was a central figure in the People’s Party was Hassan al-Banna (1906-49). Al-Banna would found the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928.

👉The original Muslim Brotherhood was an unabashed British intelligence front.👈

The mosque in Ismailia, Egypt, which was the first headquarters of the Brotherhood, was built by the (British) Suez Canal Company, nearby a British World War I military base. During World War II, the Muslim Brotherhood functioned as a de facto branch of the British military. In 1942, the Brotherhood created the “Secret Apparatus,” an underground paramilitary organization that specialized in assassinations and espionage….

BRITISH BRAINS AND AMERICAN BRAWN [can you say CANNON FODDER? -GC]

The untimely death of Franklin Roosevelt in April 1945 offered London the opportunity to shape the postwar global political landscape. Winston Churchill’s famous “Iron Curtain” address defined the Cold War and forged an Anglo-American partnership that

👉Churchill once described in the observation: “With British brains and American brawn, we can rule the world.”

Thus began an Anglo-American collusion with the Muslim Brotherhood and spinoff right-wing Islamist agencies, under the banner of fighting Godless communism. 👉Unfortunately, often American policymakers, under British sway, mistook legitimate nationalist movements in the Arab world for Soviet fronts, despite occasional protests from American diplomats and intelligence officers...

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And in my opinion it was our own State Department that betrayed the USA.

All we have to do is look at Henry Kissinger – Wikipedia

Born in Germany, Kissinger emigrated to the United States in 1938 as a Jewish refugee fleeing Nazi persecution. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II… He acted as a consultant to government agencies, think tanks, and the presidential campaigns of Nelson Rockefeller and Nixon before being appointed as national security advisor and later secretary of state by President Nixon…

During the American advance into Germany, Kissinger, though only a private, was put in charge of the administration of the city of Krefeld because of a lack of German speakers on the division’s intelligence staff. Within eight days he had established a civilian administration. Kissinger was then reassigned to the Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC), where he became a CIC Special Agent holding the enlisted rank of sergeant. He was given charge of a team in Hanover assigned to tracking down Gestapo officers and other saboteurs, for which he was awarded the Bronze Star. Kissinger drew up a comprehensive list of all known Gestapo employees in the Bergstraße region, and had them rounded up… [This underestimates Kissinger’s role -GC]

In 1955, he was a consultant to the National Security Council’s Operations Coordinating Board. During 1955 and 1956, he was also study director in nuclear weapons and foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.

From 1956 to 1958, Kissinger worked for the Rockefeller Brothers Fund as director of its Special Studies Project. He served as the director of the Harvard Defense Studies Program between 1958 and 1971. In 1958, he also co-founded the Center for International Affairs with Robert R. Bowie where he served as its associate director. Outside of academia, he served as a consultant to several government agencies and think tanks, including the Operations Research Office, the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Department of State, and the RAND Corporation.

👉Keen to have a greater influence on U.S. foreign policy, Kissinger became foreign policy advisor to the presidential campaigns of Nelson Rockefeller

56th United States Secretary of State
In office September 22, 1973 – January 20, 1977 Under President Richard Nixon

7th United States National Security Advisor
In office January 20, 1969 – November 3, 1975
Under President Richard Nixon & Gerald Ford

Kissinger’s Public Confession as an Agent of British Influence

The following is the prepared text of Henry Kissinger’s May 10, 1982 speech to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, in commemoration of the Bicentenary of the Office of the Foreign Secretary. The speech was entitled, “Reflections on a Partnership: British and American Attitudes To Postwar Foreign Policy.”

American memories were longer: The First World War was a temporary exertion, after which we withdrew into isolationism; 👉during the ’20s the U.S. Navy Department still maintained a “Red Plan” to deal with the contingency of conflict with the British fleet.

It was not until the war with Hitler that the gap closed permanently. In the immediate postwar period we were held together by strategic circumstances which imposed the same necessities, whatever the different philosophical premises. American resources and organization and technological genius, and British experience and understanding of the European balance of power, were both needed to resist the sudden threat from the Soviet Union. The Marshall Plan and North Atlantic Treaty, while formally American initiatives, were inconceivable without British advice and British efforts to organize a rapid and effective European response.

Bevin, the unlikely originator of this revolution in British diplomacy, shrewdly calculated that Britain was not powerful enough to influence American policy by conventional methods of pressure or balancing of risks. But by discreet advice, the wisdom of experience, and the presupposition of common aims, she could make herself indispensable, 👉so that American leaders no longer thought of consultations with London as a special favor but as an inherent component of our own decision-making. The wartime habit of intimate, informal collaboration thus became a permanent practice…

The British were so matter-of-factly helpful that they became a participant in internal American deliberations, to a degree probably never before practiced between sovereign nations. In my period in office, the British played a seminal part in certain American bilateral negotiations with the Soviet Union—indeed, they helped draft the key document. 👉In my White House incarnation then, I kept the British Foreign Office better informed and more closely engaged than I did the American State Department…👈

Part 2 – The British collusion with the Muslim Brotherhood (5 minutes) (Part 1 is not worth watching)

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Present day British/Fabian meddling in the Middle East:

For those who dismiss the Fabian Society, it was a FABIAN SOCIETY PHAMPHLET, From Dictator to Democracy that was spotted in EGYPT by journalists and suggested as a catalyst to the unrest during the ‘Arab Spring.’

As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings [in Egypt and Libya], one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty — but still relevant — book, “From Dictatorship to Democracy.”

Past president of the Fabian Society, ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair made headlines: Tony Blair will earn around £2 million a year in his part-time role as adviser to the Wall Street bank JP Morgan and will also continue to carry out his unpaid work as a UN Middle East envoy.

Dear KAG: 20240910 Open Thread

Cover image: Caterpillar by Sarah Holt

First things first: Requiescat in pace, sir.

BRICS vs. The WEF

The ‘Proofs’ Are Important

Trump and Elon’s Government Efficiency Task Force

Tucker Carlson’s Embrace Of Holocaust Revisionism Is A Huge Trump And GOP Problem

The hyperventilating on this needs to stop. The story we’ve been told about the Holocaust doesn’t quite add up when you do the math, and take a critical look at the remaining evidence and landmarks involved. Yes, the camps existed and people died. How they died is the main issue.

The Deep State Has Already Lost

Badlands News Brief – September 9, 2024

U.K and U.S. Spy Chiefs Warn World Order ‘Under Threat’

Trump wishes the Virgin Mary a happy birthday, and the left has a cow

So did a lot of Catholics, but that had to do with IVF and a lot of people thinking there was pandering going on as we really aren’t supposed to be into that. Well, many of us aren’t, but there are always those….

Attention, Childless Cat Ladies: Illegals are coming for your pets

Good thing I’m a dog person.

Greed, Gluttony and the Crackup of Red Lobster

RFK Jr. will appear on Michigan’s ballot, state Supreme Court rules

Michigan would be the exception, wouldn’t it.

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

https://twitter.com/FFT1776/status/1832762920859566334

I always heard it was hot, humid nights, but alright.

I’m a dog person, but cats deserve better than Haitian blood sacrifices.

Meme Zone

I could tell stories….

Even into the seventies.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

And one I found this afternoon. Talk about a composer who uses the entire orchestra.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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1When one of you has a grievance against a brother, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, matters pertaining to this life! 4If then you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who are least esteemed by the church? 5I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no man among you wise enough to decide between members of the brotherhood, 6but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? 7To have lawsuits at all with one another is defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8But you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that even your own brethren. 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

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Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire