I didn’t want to call it “False Flag Sunday”, but that is what it felt like this morning, when I got up and heard the news about the shooting in Dayton.
What I want to do here is to gather into one place, our thinking about this Q-predicted series of violent attacks.
Part of me does NOT want to segregate this discussion from our normal open thread, but I’m thinking we may be close to a break in this stuff, and it will become much more clear after the afternoon reveals from LE in Dayton. A dedicated thread will help that process.
So here you are. Let’s push back on these DEMONCRAT and HOLDER FACTION narrative operations to BRAINWASH AGAINST GUNS.

Wolf…I think I’ve figured out Why the Leftist Cabal is Trying To Create Chaos.
How do you get a free people to embrace Socialism and surrender control over their lives?
Socialism is about Control, right?
Answer to that question:
You make people think that they ‘deserve to be controlled’.
You instill self-loathing.
Then you create crime and chaos.
You make people so exhausted from it…that they will view the control that is offered with Socialism as the only answer.
The Left has been sabotaging Capitalism and blaming it for all of the ills that they themselves have been creating.
Now, they are trying to create chaos and blame it on capitalism.
They have been programming people to think…”humans are bad, we are destroying the planet”.
This has all been to get people to finally think, “Oh yes, we deserve to be controlled.”
It’s diabolical.
I agree completely! The “HUMANS ARE BAD AND NEED TO BE CONTROLLED” “belief” is also one that can only be “enforced” if the MEDIA ENFORCES IT. (Must be careful – they will bring this fully into churches and synagogues – wherever we flee – if we flee from the media, and then flee from THEIR social media.)
Now – as soon as you realize this – that they are using the “humans are bad” justification – then you should also realize, subconsciously at least, that the argument of self-loathing seems so destructive and similar to SLAVERY, that we almost can’t imagine even our HUMAN ENEMY using it. It just seems too horrible. How could humans do this to themselves? AH YES – you now have the very essence of the self-reinforcing nature of self-loathing. See how it works? Self-loathing is so horrible, that only a horrible species would engage in it! You are back at the core of the self-loathing, and you can’t get out of it.
Naturally, you see at that point how the Judeo-Christian GOD conflicts with this.
“Humans are bad but lovable and redeemable, worthy of being set free.” Christians will see it one way (dramatic metaphor), Jews another (scriptural revelation), and other “religions of light” in their own way. But the core ideas are beyond words, and we recognize their truth. Don’t quibble over the differences for now – focus on the very general ideas of GOD per se.
THAT, Wheatie, is a CIVILIZATION BUILDER. So since the enemy that wants us to self-loathe HATES IT, they must not WANT, ultimately, our human civilization to work.
Very interesting. Isn’t it? THEY DON’T WANT HUMAN CIVILIZATION TO WORK.
And THAT is where I find it extremely useful to make certain arguments on a more strategic basis.
PRESUME THE WORST, BUT BELIEVE THAT RECOGNITION OF THIS TRUTH THEN MIRRORS THE BEST, meaning it gives us hope of victory.
I’ll explain.
Now – we have to be careful, because these people and the “people” behind them are very tricky, and I believe have DONE THIS BEFORE (“Do I have a WOO? I have WOO! Do I have WOO-WOO?”). At the very least, it is PRUDENT TO ACT as if these people are EXPERIENCED IN GLOBAL TAKEOVER.
I’m not going to say in what FRAMEWORK this happens – whether spatial, temporal, many worlds, or whatever. Spiritual – material – cosmological – mathematical – I don’t NEED TO KNOW. I just know that because of the SMARTNESS of what they are doing, they have DONE THIS BEFORE, ON A GLOBAL SCALE. So they are very good at it.
We already know that NATIONAL takeover used this self-loathing stuff after WWII, under Stalin and pedophile predator psychologist Beria. Very interesting how the YouTube RED DIAPER’S grandpa was a part of that, in the takeover of Poland. SELF-LOATHING. Yup. Was VERY useful to Stalin in Eastern Europe. Very useful to the Allies in Germany and Japan. But notice what it did in Germany after WWI, in creating the cyclic event of ANOTHER WORLD WAR.
So this is REAL and FAMILIAL. But we have to be careful, because if you ESCAPE SELF-LOATHING WRONG, then BAD STUFF HAPPENS AGAIN.
Still with me? And this is a very important point, whether you view it religiously, scientifically, or both. Even if it is just a totally false presumption on our part, that the enemy is somehow experienced in worldly take-over, because we want to GUARANTEE A WIN, we have to act PRUDENTLY and assume that the forces we are up against are EXPERIENCED IN GLOBAL TAKEOVERS, and have seen all the common defenses.
How do you fight such an enemy?
In my opinion, GOD or an identical scientific framework with a fully generalized view of intelligence – basically a different perspective on the same thing – is the KEY to fighting back. This view – in my opinion – breaks the back of ALL self-loathing arguments in any way that one can be formed as a reality, yet this counter is not only not self-destructive, it is CREATIVE, and thus justifies its existence automatically. (I know that sounds weird, but that is the best way I can quickly put it into words.)
Now, moving on, try to imagine why the Judaic God and its CORE ADHERENTS are both PERSISTENT and PERSISTENTLY OPPOSED. Future proves past. This goes straight to the argument itself. It is so powerful and self-reinforcing, and MORE SO than self-loathing. Being the STRONGEST ENEMY of self-loathing, it puts itself FULLY in the cross-hairs of everything that supports self-loathing, or which compromises fatally with that idea.
A lot of history and historical psychology falls out of that, right there.
SO – pulling back – what I find very useful is to look for the ACTUAL GOALS – short-term and long-term – of the ones pushing self-loathing. Whatever those are, THE OPPOSITE can almost certainly be trusted.
A very powerful tool in fighting them, and one that can be stated openly, and trusted, because in the end, God wins, because God HAS TO WIN.
Here is a bit of history to think about when looking at false flags.
Wolfie Posted yesterday on the open thread:
Followed by this from anothe commenter:
From Gab: *https://gab.com/HankRearden/posts/102553122013367260
I wanted to do the history of US Citizens & their Cinstitutional Rights vs the FBI & Fed government to put these False Flags into a historical setting but it expanded…
So here it is in segments.
WACO TX
Here are a series of interesting comment for those who did not follow the WACO TX FF. (Back when BB was not troll infested)
And don’t forget RUBY RIDGE: straight from the horse’s mouth: https://www.rubyridgetofreedom.com/index.html
Yup. And the Clintons NEEDED that whole thing to justify the gun control aspects of the soon-to-come Clinton-Schumer-Biden crime bill that would pave the way for Black Lives Matter, Cloward-Piven imprisonment, etc.
VERY much so.
If you look at the rest of the information I cite, generally it is the Constitutionalists WHO LOSE…. And the Cabal, generally with the same bad actors, is in control.
I am amazed at how often the same names come up again and again and again through out the years.
HENSHAW Hogs Massacre in Virginia
Unfortunately the NONAIS site no longer exists. Here are a few excepts.
Some critical point to understanding this FF
#1. The Pseudorabies EXCUSE was BOGUS and easily proved BOGUS. There should NOT have been lively piglets running around with that disease!!!
Merk Vet Manual “…The clinical signs in pigs depend on the age of the affected animal. Young swine are highly susceptible, and losses may reach 100% in piglets <7 days old. In general, signs of CNS disease (eg, tremors and paddling) are seen…."
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/nervous-system/pseudorabies/overview-of-pseudorabies
#2. APHIS Pseudorabies Eradication plan WAS NOT FOLLOWED
#3. Normal protocol WAS NOT FOLLOWED! Oh and Danny is FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT,, a former police officer who’d done undercover narcotics work.
And the more recent history.
LaVoy Finicum & the Bundy’s BLM overreach
LaVoy Finicum shooting: FBI agent faces 5-count indictment
https://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2017/06/fbi_agent_indicted_in_connecti.html
Report: Obama Operatives Bragged About Grinding Ranchers Face Into Gravel
https://conservativetribune.com/report-obama-operatives-bundy/
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San Bernardino
Remember when they left the San Bernardino shooter’s apartment unsecured and the landlord let the press rummage through everything unimpeded? And then did the same in Los vegas?
FBI agents returned to search a house in Reno owned by Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock after local police told them that someone had broken into the home over the weekend.
*https://www.rt.com/usa/406310-paddock-house-reno-break-in/
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Man at N.M. compound trained kids for school shooting
*https://www.wjhg.com/content/news/Child-remains-found-at-New-Mexico-compound-man-due-in-court-490352381.html
Jihadist Compound in New Mexico is Bulldozed.. why?
*https://iotwreport.com/jihadist-compound-in-new-mexico-is-bulldozed-why/
Somewhere I read that they also bull dozed the Los Vegas site, destroying evidence.
Break-in at Las Vegas shooter’s home in Reno confounds police
*https://www.rt.com/usa/406310-paddock-house-reno-break-in/
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Wolfie says on the first page:
“… I don’t want to believe it, but I can believe the “Holder faction” would do this. …..”
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This, in my opinion is the BIGGEST problem people have. They can not believe THEY ARE THAT EVIL but they have proved it time and again.
All you have to do is read the Statistics for Democide: DEATH by GOVERNMENT
Since the Banksters took over the banking system in the USA in 1913 and FUNDED COMMUNISM the death toll is 262 BILLION
This afternoon I checked online for Q news. I got response that my computer was not able to connect with 8 chan servers. Anyone else?
So I scooted right over here, saw no mention of problems. First up, found two fave posters, wheatie and wolfmoon. Der Voolfsmooon has written a concise, cogent and comprehensive explanation for the foundation difference in human societies and civilizations as they grow into goodness for many or toxicity for all. Mr 1776, this piece deserves more readership! Could you share with other websites or news outlets? Idk, Ace, American Thinker, Youtube essayists? Thank you.
And Gail Combs! You made me recall all the horrible things that kept me in travail for decades, with horrors in my stomach and heart, pleading with God to save his America. For yes, we are His.
Do I support Donald Trump? Oh to absolute victory, with public justice delivered to all the government deep state and every plotter who cooperated and assisted in their attacks. O God, magnify our better deeds,
Amen!
OANN cable broadcast now outing Ohio shooter as a socialist.
He twitted Rob Portman with an accusation that Portman took money (presumably from the gun lobby) to look the other way regarding, ironically enough, gun violence.
OANN also saying 8Chan (the board that hosts the Q drops) and Gab are being criticized in Congress and elsewhere for hosting radical speech and sympathy for the ideas of the shooters.
Haven’t finished the thread yet. My bad if you guys already know all this.
Cloudflare also abandoning 8Chan.
The bottom line is that we CANNOT give in to ANY gun legislation that was BOUGHT BY VIOLENCE committed by opponents of the Second Amendment.
Frankly, we should BAN DSA.
I wasn’t sure where to post this, it has some interesting information about the shooters and one of their connections to the “John of God” character who was promoted by Oprah, until he was discovered to be a child trafficker.
I don’t know how many people here are familiar with the “You Are Free” lady, but this is one of her videos. I try to catch them at least a few times a week during dinner. The first few minutes is thanking sponsors and other ‘housekeeping’ stuff, then she gets to the news.
I’m not convinced of all the things regularly speaks about (I’m not convinced of all the things just about anybody speaks regularly about), but she is certainly sincere and seems to be a very kind soul with access to lots of current information streams and research, and she discusses many of the topics we talk about here almost daily:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7xfSGuwmAU