F5: FBI False Flag Failure Forum

GET IT IN HERE, PEOPLE.

EL PASO AND DAYTON. All related materials. Gun Control. Red Flag. Whatever.

Please feel free to REPEAT and UPDATE information from earlier threads.

BRING YOUR BEST.

Anything that proves why the FBI needs to be SAND-BLASTED WITH THE ASTEROID BELT, and the SOCIALISTS need to be chased out of Ohio with HILLARY’S BROOM.

I want to consolidate all our links, visual evidence, analysis, and reasoning.

BURN THE DIRTY FEEBS and their SOCIALIST MASTERS TO THE GROUND.


More calmly, this. It is IMPERATIVE that these incidents be made so toxic that Dems get bad dreams if they just HEAR the words “Red Flag”.

Will Red Flag laws work on SOCIALIST SHOOTERS?

Will Red Flag laws work on OHIO SATANISTS?

Will Red Flag laws work if FBI is still ABUSING INFORMANTS FOR POLITICAL DRAMA?

FLAMETHROWERS ON MAXIMUM BURN!!!

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thetinfoilhatsociety

Regarding things farther down in that thread on Twitter: The “face” that they “enhanced” is fake. That’s a comedian who did an infamous skit about guns. I can’t think of his name though. Sam something or other.

Rodney Short

I used to do alot of deer hunting in ohio and one of my best friends tells me Ohio gun owners are ready for war if need be.The World is woke and the deep state is on notice “We See You”

Rodney Short

FEAR, thats the world they live in right now Wolf.
Things are gonna get alot crazier IMO

TradeBait

This is true. Organized and true.

Alison

Is this what we all need to do? Select Antifa tweeters and follow multiple rabbit holes until we strike gold? Sign up at moveon.org & other Left anarchist sites to follow similar trails?
Or do we start at the top with AOCs Chief and that guy (Zeke??) who Daughn recently uncovered & try to figure out their money trails.
They are communicating, but no one is sanctioning or suppressing them. Who told them to go to Mitch’s house? Who is organizing Texas Antifa? None of this is spontaneous.
How do we mere, naive civilians help fight this war? I used to be good at ghis stuff but now I’m an aging grandmother with poor eyes. It feels like I should be the army, and I am utterly ill-equipped for the battle to expose Darkness to Light!
We have to get to them before they scrub!

Alison

Dang – wolfie that is me in moderation. I mistyped Alison 🤓

Alison

Nevermind 😂

Alison

❤️❤️❤️

drillerelite

Reminded me of James Holmes, Aurora theater (not far from here) guy. Not sure if it’s relevant but he had a BS in neurology and was studying for a higher degree. He was also seeing a psychologist in the school’s clinic who he happened to mail a notebook about his mental illness and homicidal thoughts hours before he did the act. She apparently didn’t get it before but if I recall she said something about seeing warning signs but I’d have to dig to confirm that.
One of the gals he killed worked right down road at our Subway, she was sweet. 🙁
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/james-holmes

Steve in Lewes

This guy acknowledged 6 police officers at the end of his video. I went back to re-watch a couple times and each time I did see six officers with guns drawn. From what I could tell, each one was a white dude.
I only point this out because I’m getting sick and tired of all this racial shit being stirred up by the left; I did see a fair number of dark skinned folks running from the shooter.
Bravo to those brave men!

drillerelite

Oh damn, those cops weren’t messing around! Thank God they were near.

drillerelite

I thought he was killed too, he’s not dead? Hmmm, wonder what info they’ll get out him. Do we know anything about the FBI agent in charge?

drillerelite

Sorry, I spose I could read down the thread or look it up myself, just got off though and gotta S,S & S and eat. I’ll try to catch up soon as I can.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, my! You bring back old memories with S, S & S! ROFL – been a long time since I heard that!

drillerelite

Heheh, My dad said it a lot.
I wondered who here would know, shoulda figured you would

nikkichico7

Actually that’s a splendid idea‼️ We as law abiding citizens of the United States of America 🇺🇸 should en masses sue the living hell out of these evil lawless bastards, I’m persuaded it would work. So who do we get to represent us, how about a national petition to AG Barr to hook us up with legal representation as taxpayers paying the cost of the theses evil lawless bastards cause because we’re mad as hell and we’re not gonna take it anymore .. get names, file suits …
… leave the cannoli . 🤨

evereleutheros

Here’s a clip from the Walmart employee that said they heard more gunshots at Dillards.
https://www.elpasotimes.com/videos/news/2019/08/03/walmart-employee-describes-el-paso-shooting-near-cielo-vista-mall/1912058001/

evereleutheros

At about the .45 second mark in video.

drillerelite

Holy crap. If this is a conspiracy, which all signs point to as valid, I don’t understand how so many people could be in on it and keep it so quiet. Must be some something pretty powerful/evil behind the scenes. Prayers up!

NebraskaFilly

Departmentalization, manipulation, and segregation – best secrecy defense, IMO.

Covadonga

In stage magic, only the magician knows how the whole trick works. Each assistant or stagehand only knows his little part.
No crosstraining!
Same principle, applied to something that is not nefarious or felonious.

Volgarian8301

They kept flipping coverage between the mall and WalMart, then settled in (at one of the press conferences, I think) that the entire incident was contained to Wal-Mart and the parking lot……
But….
There’s the pic in front of the mall, and then there’s the ex-military guy who carried kids out of the mall because he HEARD shots.

Cuppa Covfefe

What the libturd left, Satanic Soros bots, Klintoons, and all the SJW snowflake crew want is
WHITE SUBJUGATION.
ABW, Anything (anyone) but whites.
Racism at its most Satanic.
They all whine and moan about how “everyone is equal”, then they start setting quotas, identifying different groups, and, the worst divider of all, stuffing in hyphens.
zzzz-American.
BULLFEATHERS (that means you too, Fauxcahontas Liarwatha)!
You’re either American, or you’re hyphenated. Sorry snowflakes this is a BINARY decision; indeed it is an XOR decision.
And if you don’t want to be a full-fledged American; if you’re unappy here; if you think it was better (or will be better) back in the “old country”, then get the hell out!!!!!!!
And, to those who say we should be more like Switzerland, Finland, Somalia (looking at YOU brotherlover): then go THERE!!! No one’s begging to keep you malcontents here. You add nothing, and take everything. Go feed of of someone else’s largesse.
There’s a term for malcontents like you lot: FREELOADERS (revived in the 60s as “freebies”). Other folks would say SLACKERS.
And to those who say the Founding Fathers let anyone and everyone in; BS. Considering what they had to give up to birth our Republic, it’s no surprise the whiners and wimps didn’t come along for the tortuous ride.
Larry Ledwick over at chiefio’s blog has a good comment:

Larry Ledwick says:
5 August 2019 at 10:02 pm
Some comments on the view of the founders of the US system of government regarding immigration and citizen ship. Examination makes it clear that from the very beginning there was a strong disposition to limit immigration to those who would benefit American (of good character) and multiple examples of legislation to prevent immigration of certain groups which in the estimation of the government of the time would be destructive to the American Experiment if allowed to immigrate in large numbers and in some cases were absolutely excluded from immigration. The current liberal lament that our founders championed open borders and unlimited immigration is refuted by the founders own words – they did not believe that and took positive steps to say so as did several generations of leadership in the first century of America’s existence.
https://newrightnetwork.com/2019/07/founding-fathers-immigration.html/

duchess01

DEPORT THEM ALL – LET’S TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK – FROM LYING LIBERALS! MKAY?

pgroup

In order to even get here from England/Europe (mostly England) when they were colonies, one had to be wealthy to afford passage on a 3-mast sailing ship. Alternatively, one could join the crew and work his way across the ocean if there were any openings. Alternatively, one could indenture oneself to the company sponsoring the settlement in the new land; a voluntary slave so to speak. Originally in the late 1600s, the settlements/towns were company chartered (private). No way were there any welfare programs for either making the trip or being a member of the settlements, with one notable exception.
William Bradford was a governor under charter. It specified that all members of the group would share equally. The first winter darn near everyone died from starvation. He made a change to capitalism/profit and sent a letter to his charter company detailing why he had to do it. I’m a little bit fuzzy on the details but listen to Rush on Thanksgiving and he tells the tale every year.

Gail Combs

That whole story is outlined by the Mises Institute website with quotes from the diary of Governor Bradshaw. It is a TRUE STORY that should be read BEFORE EACH THANKSGIVING DINNER!!! (Especially if you have liberal relatives.)
The Great Thanksgiving Hoax:
https://mises.org/library/great-thanksgiving-hoax-1

Valerie Curren

He also shares it in story form in his book “Rush Revere & the Brave Pilgrims”…

Gail Combs

Larry Ledwick is a real gem as is EM and the rest of the crew at ChiefIO.

nikkichico7

Excellent post c Cuppa …. now we can deport Ilhan, Talib and all the evil mother scratchers that came to this country to destroy it … they hate it but … dammit … why are they here then 🤨‼️
and multiple examples of legislation to prevent immigration of certain groups which in the estimation of the government of the time would be destructive to the American Experiment if allowed to immigrate in large numbers and in some cases were absolutely excluded from immigration

trumpismine

Could anyone enlighten me who is:
The “Central Ohio Socialist Rifle Association”
Never heard of them until the last couple days. Central Ohio= Columbus the state capital?
Where the leftist socialist scum reside in larger numbers?

trumpismine

Wow!
Marxist commies got a shooting range?
some scary stuff so close to home.

SingularZoe

Lol, I just thought it was a snarky comment about the NRA in Ohio or something. Never dreamed that organization was for real. Wow.

trumpismine

Warning heeded Wolf- thanks

Covadonga

Sorry, Wolf Man!
I just can’t read “COSRA” without thinking “SNL”.

Rodney Short

Castro just FUCKING DOXXED these 44 patriots!!!!!!!!!!!
This sorry piece of shit needs doxed in return and I would also add all his family to the list.

Rodney Short

I would never do that Wolf, I would never dox anyone it is a very childish thing to do.
I have to ask myself alot, What would Jesus do?
There are many people out there who will expose these people.

singingsoul1

Rodney
Amen

rayzorbak

Rodney my friend…..
You can NEVER go Wrong with:
“What would Jesus do?”
Though we can only guess at the answer….
It is a GREAT place to start 🙂

Rodney Short

Amen

Covadonga

“WWJGD?”
I’m thinking John Galt would choose to dox, but seize enemy bandwidth to do it, so enemies could only stop it by shutting down their own infrastructure.

A Fortiori

We should not be in the business of creating expedited procedures for taking away the natural rights of citizens. The Constitution is designed to establish a government that protects these rights. And the right of a citizen to bear arms is specifically set forth in the Second Amendment to the Constitution as one of the natural rights that shall not be infringed.
Accordingly we must begin from the proposition that no governmental entity in the US may deny to a citizen any of their constitutional rights without due process. And the contours of the robust, adversarial due process that is required to deny a citizen his rights are set forth in the Constitution, and delineated more specifically by a set of laws that have been developed over more than 200 years.
To the extent that a debate has now arisen about the need for “Red Flag” laws, which would provide for a relatively easy set of procedures that may be used to remove a citizen’s Second Amendment rights, we also should consider the fact that this debate has been impelled by sensationalized news coverage of a handful of highly unusual and deadly attacks, undertaken by seriously mental ill people and result in multiple deaths. We should not rush headlong into a solution while in the midst of our anger over these events. Our Founding Fathers created a series of procedures for altering our laws that are intended to be cumbersome and time consuming specifically for situations like this one, where passions run high and reason may be abandoned.
And in addition to the fact that Red Flag laws are likely to violate the Constitutional rights of citizens, and are being hastily considered, two other considerations readily spring to mind.
First, there is ample data supporting the notion that armed law abiding citizens are the best deterrent to violence in general, and mass shootings in particular. Dr. John Lott presents this data in great detail in his book that is intended specifically to address this point entitled: “The War on Guns: Arming Yourself Against Gun Control Lies.” That this data is not being considered as a component in our debate points to serious flaws in our thinking.
And finally, there is a social component implicit in the structure of “Red Flag” laws that should not pass without mention. The underlying concept of these types of laws is that citizens will express to persons in authority their feelings about other citizens for the express purpose of having the authorities consider interfering with the citizen’s Constitutional rights. We should not be encouraging behavioral norms that pit citizens against one another. Everyone must be presumed to be innocent in the absence of concrete evidence of criminal activity. Each and every citizen in this nation must be free to enjoy the blessings of liberty and seek happiness in their own way unless and until some evidence arises that the citizen has broken the law. Encouraging citizens to initiate against other citizens a simplified gun confiscation procedure will make living together in peace with our fellow citizens more difficult.

A Fortiori

This is yet another important point to be taken into consideration: what is the remedy when a malevolent actor imperils a citizen’s rights? The Red Flag mechanism does not appear to be designed to ensure that a citizen knows who is making accusations against him, so how does he seek redress? And doesn’t this fact alone invite abuse?
Indeed, one could readily envision a Soros funded non-profit organization (the SPLC infrastructure is probably available) whose goal would be to impugn the integrity of both Christians and conservatives and subject them to the Red Flag process solely for the purpose of diminishing their ability to engage in activities intended to further either Christian or conservative causes. When you lower the bar to denying a citizen their rights, you make it far easier to persecute innocent individuals.

rayzorbak

“Red Flag” laws will be used just like the FISA Court.
EVERY citizen MUST know who is making accusations against him.
And allowed the OPPORTUNITY to confront and Rebut him/her.

rayzorbak

Deuteronomy 17:6
At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Matthew 18:16
if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
2 Corinthians 13:1
This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
1 Timothy 5:19
Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Hebrews 10:28
He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses

Covadonga

A “Red Flag” Star Chamber of universal scope, consisting of every Soros bot, every left-drifting snowflake, and every SPLC-trained shyster or spokesclown.

Covadonga

“whose goal would be to impugn the integrity of both Christians and conservatives… for the purpose of diminishing their ability to engage in activities intended to further either Christian or conservative causes”
Or, even faster, to subject their lives to the whims of snowflake mobs outside their homes (like those gathered outside the Kentucky home of the Senate Majority Leader recently) or to the professional attention of whomever took out Vince Foster, Ron Brown, or Seth Rich.
That’s the ultimate denial of due process, when your enemies can simply have you disarmed under color of law when they contemplate ordering that you be taken out.
Remember Trump’s problems with the FISA court, the renegade FIBbers, and Muh Russia. Then consider all the attempts on his life Q has alerted us to. Red Flag is a way to expedite this process and extend it to the average deplorable.

blueridgemtsva

I want to show you the official position of the VCDL aka Virginia Citizens Defense League on Red Flag Laws. I have the same thoughts as they do about them.
Red Flag laws, also called Gun Violence Restraining Orders and Extreme Risk Protection Orders, are gun-confiscation laws disguised as “gun-violence prevention” laws that are being pushed hard at both the state and federal levels. VCDL expects to be fighting Red Flag bills in the Virginia General Assembly in 2019.
Red Flag laws are really unconstitutional “prior restraint” laws that violate the protections found in the Bill of Rights, including the:
Second Amendment (right to keep and bear arms)
Fourth Amendment (protection against unreasonable search and seizures)
Fifth Amendment (right to due process, just compensation, self-incrimination) and
Sixth Amendment (right to confront accusers, cross-examine witnesses, have a public defender)
And all of those violations of the Constitution based solely on an unnamed person’s secret allegation that someone else “might” do something dangerous to themselves or others in the future. The State is supposed to punish those who have broken the law, not those who might break the law.
The person accused of being “dangerous” has not committed a crime and has no notice there is a problem until the police show up, pre-dawn, with guns drawn and confiscate the accused’s firearms. The accused is not given due process to defend himself or herself in court from the accusation for weeks or months after the confiscation. It is up to the accused to prove that he or she is not dangerous! (How do you prove a negative? How do you prove you are not dangerous?) Until such proof is provided to the Court’s satisfaction, the guns are not returned. This could drag on for months, years, or indefinitely!
If a person is “too dangerous” to own a gun, then why is that person left walking around with the rest of us? Can’t that “dangerous” person still commit suicide or harm others if they have the opportunity? The answer to both questions is that Red Flag laws are about confiscating guns, not saving lives.
In Maryland, which recently enacted such a law, two-thirds of the requests for confiscation were deemed frivolous. In other words, most of the requests that were denied were from people wanting to “get even” with someone else by making their lives miserable! But how many frivolous requests got through anyhow?
We do NOT want Red Flag laws in Virginia or anywhere else in America!
At the below URL, there is a PDF flyer you can print out and distribute.
https://vcdl.org/RedFlag

blueridgemtsva
nikkichico7

TY blue, 🙂👍❤️‼️🇺🇸❤️‼️‼️

SingularZoe

Such good points, Afortius. Have read so much about people in France in the resistance during World War II being informed upon by their neighbors and people not knowing whom they could trust, all kinds of motivations, sometimes complicated, sometimes not. I don’t want to live in that kind of country.

singingsoul1

SingularZoe Under Nazism and Communism was the same.One could not trust your neighbor or even family member. Teachers ask children about family or what parents said or do. The innocent children became spies on their parents.
Trust no one was the rule.

SingularZoe

Yes, France when it was under the Nazis is what I was speaking of. Well, you would know all about it.

pgroup

You are making so much sense that I’m certain nobody in a position of authority will listen.
As DJT would say, SAD!

Gail Combs

A Fortiori, well stated the RED Flag ‘laws’ are RED as in Communist/Nazi like in nature where snitches were the norm and people were afraid of their neighbors.
Unfortunately this is not the first time in recent times the US gov. has tried this crap!
First there was the Farm census. If you suscribed to a horse magazine you got a census BOOKLET of VERY NOSY QUESTION where the USDA wanted you to list EVERYTHING YOU OWNED! If you did not fill out the census you got a phone call. I talked to the lady and explained WHY farmers did not want to fill it out. She said “No wonder we are getting the phones slammed down and worse.”
Turns out the USDA LIED to farmers about the Census…

U.S. 2007 Census of Agriculture: Who Can You Trust?
No. 30 in a series of articles about the NAIS and related topics
By Bruno Schmidt
© 2008 by Schmidt Publications, All Rights Reserved
“Since the USDA quotes “the law”, Title 7 U.S. Code, let us look there first. As published by the U.S. Title 7 USC weighs in at 1826 pages (!) and a total of 1,780,815 words (!). Does Title 7 USC have the force of “law”, though? I found out that Congress’ own “Law Revision Counsel” has declared that Title 7 USC has NEVER been enacted as “positive law” (see Title 1 USC, Section 204)….
So then, where exactly is the “law” governing the agricultural census? It can be located in Title 7 USC
Chapter 55, on page 1222. It was enacted on Nov. 27, 1997, as Public Law 105-113. Duplicated at Section 2204g, the act’s text consists of only 909 words (!). It states in very general and vague terms that the USDA is authorized to “take” a census every 5 years, beginning in 1998. In addition to taking a census (an enumeration of sorts), the act also provides for the taking of an optional “survey” or “information collection” of unspecified content. Moreover, the act also provides for “enforcement”: a $100 fine for any refused answer, and a $500 fine for any fraudulent answer….”
http://www.freetofarm.com/resources/Part30_AgCensus-WhoCanYouTrust.pdf

Next Vets were TOLD TO REPORT on CUSTOMERS. (sorry I can not find the document) One lady found her vet snooping around her barns TAKING PICTURES OF EVERYTHING…. She called her husband who was a cop. 😁
Then individual small farmers (including me) got harrased. Here us one example:

From: ….<Scrap-Buddy@…
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:30:11 -0700
Subject: [homedairygoats] Alert- Big Brother has henchmen in California
Hello All,
I rarely post here, but felt compelled to share today's experience with you. I'll start with a bit of background to bring you up to speed. I run a small (very small) Children's Ag Program
Today a state Ag inspector and two county officials show up and scare the bee-jesus out of me. First they accuse me of selling products and milk, then explain that even "giving milk products away" is illegal in California. Now everything is pasteurized, but it is illegal to share milk products in any form! They explained it was even ILLEGAL to give it to my own children if they did not live under my roof! I can't even take a lasagna dish to my grown sons home without risk of being fined, arrested and or jailed! This is OUTRAGIOUS!!!!
How can it be illegal to give something away or take a casserole to a friend's house?

Gail Combs

EXCEPT TAKE FROM AUSTRIAN SURVIOR OF NAZI OCCUPATION

“I believe that I’m an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected Hitler by 98% of the vote..
…We had another agency designed to control the businesses……We were told how we should shop, and what we should buy. Free enterprise was literally abolished. We had a planning agency, espeially designed for farmers and private property owners. The agents would go to the farms, count the livestock, then tell the farmer what to produce and how to produce it.
http://www.comeandtakeit.com/unclassd.html

Gail Combs

One more comment that gives you another reason why farmers SUPPORT TRUMP.
Right after the UK Animal Disease Center RELEASED hoof-and-mouth disease into the UK countryside resulting in the deaths of millions of animals, including some very rare breeds AS WELL AS SUICIDE of the farmers, The USA decided to move Plum Island Animal Disease Center to the MIDDLE OF COW COUNTRY!!! (We all wonder just how much Hillar Clinton had to do with the move…)
Plum Island’s move to Kansas: ‘This research facility is an accident waiting to happen’
“…The new facility will focus biosafety level 3 agriculture (BSL-3Ag) research on dangerous livestock diseases such as African swine fever and foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) and will focus its BSL-4 research on such deadly pathogens as the Hendra and Nipah viruses, which are zoonotic pathogens that can be transmitted from animals to humans and for which no treatment is available….”

“….The former director of the aging Plum Island Animal Disease Center, Dr. Roger Breeze, says that research ought to be kept away from cattle populations and, ideally, placed where the public has already accepted this type of research….When asked about the administration’s choice of sites near livestock, Breeze says, “It seems a little odd. It goes against the… safety program of the last 50 years.”
The last outbreak of hoof-and-mouth disease on the U.S. mainland was in 1929. “The horrific prospect of exterminating potentially millions of animals is not something this country’s ready for,” says Dr. Floyd Horn, former head of the U.S. Agriculture Department’s Agricultural Research Service.
Leaders of the House Energy and Commerce Committee also express worry about a move to the mainland. Rep. John Dingle, D-Mich, chairman of the committee, and Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich, have threatened to subpoena records they claim Homeland Security is withholding from Congressional inspection. Of particular interest are the reports about Crimson Sky, an internal review of a 1978 release of hoof-and-mouth disease on Plum Island, and reports about releases of the virus on the island during the past century.
http://www.naturalnews.com/023152.html

Crimson Sky refers to the BURNING of giant piles of dead animals that would be necessary to try and stop the spread of disease. Think China and African swine fever wiping out their entire national herd. Depopulation ALSO means killing all dogs and cats and burning all wooden buildings.
Stolen from http://arkansasanimalproducers.8k.com/about_10.html


On page 31 of GAO document 05-214 it talks about depopulation of both diseased and healthy animals, wild and domestic, in 10-km zones around infections. http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-05-214
The world witnessed it when it happened in the united kingdom’s foot and mouth outbreak. millions of healthy animals destroyed for a few hundred that tested positive. a vaccine exists for this disease…a disease that rarely causes death in the animal and it doesn’t affect humans at all. gene pools were destroyed forever, lives were shattered and scores committed suicide, even equipment and hay/feed were destroyed along with farm dogs. Farmers begged their government to vaccinate instead of wanton destruction, but were ignored. Farming in the united kingdom has been so devastated DEFRA has dropped “farming” from their name.
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-05-214
on page 31:

“..Should USDA officially confirm the presence of a disease, such as Foot and Mouth Disease, the affected herd and all cattle, sheep, goats, swine, and susceptible wildlife—infected or not— within a minimum 10-kilometer zone around the infected farm would be killed….”

Note they also mention extending that range indefinitely. They affectionately call this process “Depopulation” which is ever so euphemistic. All of this is without a warrant and no appeal. So much for your Constitutional rights and presumption of innocence….

TheseTruths

America doesn’t have the most shootings. We cannot accept the Left’s lies. Dan Bongino covered this on his podcast today, and michaelh mentioned it in the daily thread. https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/06/dear-kmag-20190806-open-topic/comment-page-3/#comment-223456
Links from Bongino’s site:
No, the United States Doesn’t Lead the World in Mass Shootings
https://pjmedia.com/trending/no-the-united-states-doesnt-lead-the-world-in-mass-shootings/
Are there more gun deaths in the United States than any other country?
https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2019/aug/02/beto-orourke/are-there-more-gun-deaths-united-states-any-other-/
The Relationship Between Guns and Murder Isn’t What Liberals Think
https://bongino.com/the-relationship-between-guns-and-murder-isnt-what-liberals-think/
“…the relationship between guns and murder is actually inverted. The more guns there are in a country, the LESS homicides there are…”
“Countless publications cited a study from Adam Lankford as proof that mass shootings are a uniquely American problem, but a critical study found serious flaws in Lankford’s research, concluding instead that despite having 4.6 percent of the world’s population and 40 percent of the world’s firearms, we in the US experience just 2.88 percent of the world’s mass shootings.”

pgroup

Technical correction: using its resources s/b misusing our resources. Those tools are not for personal use.

kinthenorthwest

During Sandy Hook they reported two shooters–now only one??? OK media was over anxious was my thoughts.
There is now Parkland, Vegas and El Paso…Fool me once shame on me fool me twice….NO NO NO
Will these El Paso witnesses suddenly die like with Vegas? Something is happening and I know not what…Actually reminds me the the song “For What It’s Worth”
It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it’s time we stop
Children, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking’ their minds
Are getting so much resistance from behind
El Paso Walmart shooting witnesses saw ‘three to four armed men running in… dressed in all black… shooting’
https://www.intellihub.com/walmart-shooting-witnesses-saw-three-to-four-armed-men-running-in-dressed-in-all-black-shooting/
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1158799042526076928?s=20

tom f

Those images……….Today being National Purple Heart Day.
I have a picture in my scrapbook of 7 men (Marines with whom I served) browsing a Playboy mag.
Of the 7, by the end of their ‘tour’ there were 11 Purple Hearts and 3 KIAs.
Protesting? Betrayal.

Covadonga

San Bernardino is an example of an Islamic attack where the reported number of shooters is variable.
Eyewitnesses said “more than two”. Media immediately following attack said police were “chasing a third”.
Since attack, media and police say “just two”. Any higher number is a conspiracy theory.

kinthenorthwest

What is strangest about all of the strange number of shooters is that so few witnesses are or have come forward.

Covadonga

Well, there was a strong movement among the Las Vegas witnesses, in conjunction with independent websites and honest investigative journalists like Laura Loomer.
But a wave of fatal “automobile accidents” dampened their enthusiasm for publicizing the truth. Survivors of later atrocities may have “wised up” for their own safety.
In many ways, we are living in a 3rd world country, but drinkable water and better roads.

kinthenorthwest

Think that is what happened with Benghazi–Strange prior to Benghazi survivors of incidents like that were invited to WH. Don’t remember any Benghazi survivors at the WH

LM

Why is there so much silence about the El Paso shooter’s personal history and his and his and his parents’ political leanings?
I will never believe that a mass murderer is “one of us”.
Just as I will never believe that Trump supporters are “white nationalists”. I really believe that the reason the the President named and came out against this in his last speech was to dissociate himself and all of us from this slanderous lie.
I also think there is no other race in the world more discriminated against right now than caucasians. No one wants to be us. When people “self identify” as another race it is usually as a minority. Why? Because that’s where the favor is for government handouts, educational opportunities, promotions, and the best jobs.
Look at Elizabeth Warren.
So I hope people will think about the following. Yes, there was slavery in this country and yes it was bad. It existed for the privilege of very wealthy people who think that they are better than others and so they are justified to exploit others. This still defines the left and those who want open borders.
But a lot of white people who thought that slavery was wrong did something about it. They not only refused to be part of it but they risked and lost their lives to end it.
Now if you are a person of color and you hold favor and power because of it I ask you to look in the mirror. Have you become what you hate?
When we are together and work on shared projects, when we worship together, when we cheer on the same sports teams, and when we are called on by our country to go to battle together we find that we love one another,
In every situation, God expects this of those of us who are Christians. He looks at our hearts, and that is what should matter most to each of us.
I hope that by following God in this that we can show the world that we are not who they say we are and that their attempts to define us, diminish us, isolate us, and destroy us will fail.
Deplorable American Patriots are a family of every race, united by love of God, love of country and the freedoms our Constitution guarantees, and love of our President and of one another .

kinthenorthwest

Too many mysteries on that shooter, especially with the changed social media pages…Then there is the difference in pants that was shown in Walmart video and one of him being arrested…Strange.
Wonder why the parents &/or other family members haven’t come forward to say sorry…Usually that is the case

LM

Hard to believe that they looked so much alike!

kinthenorthwest

could pass for brothers, and then the pants strange isn’t it.

wheatietoo

And…it looks like he is FOLLOWING the guy in Black.
Great catch, Wolfie!
Wow.
Yes, I agree about the cargo pants being the same in that side-by-side pic.
When Crusius was in custody, the pockets had been emptied.
So the pockets were flattened.

kinthenorthwest

To me the pants he gets arrested in don’t look like cargo pants. I think that is what most are seeing.

kinthenorthwest

makes sense

kinthenorthwest

to me first pair look like pocket pants & second pair no pockets

kinthenorthwest

Officers at work wear the cargo & it seems that even when empty the pockets hang out.
Now for the question of why he looks so much like the Garlic guy, and why so little infor on him and Garlic guy

kinthenorthwest

LOL

mandy

LOOK AT HIS PANTS.
THE PANTS IN THE PHOTO ABOVE ARE NOT THE SAME PANTS AS THE CARGO PANTS HE HAS ON WHEN HE IS ENTERING WALMART.
Find the photo from his entrance into the Wally and you will see.
DID HE CHANGE HIS BRITCHES AFTER THE KILLINGS?
No.
IT IS NOT THE SAME GUY.
(and this is not MY work, I saw both photos side by side over on Gab. Neon Revolt, I think – but may have been someone else, I follow a couple of folks who are posting there about this stuff).

kinthenorthwest

Its crazy–it was SharylAttkisson that brought some it to light on one of her threads.

singingsoul1

I do not identify myself with the killer in El Paso just because I am white. I do not hate people and do not differentiate between black white or a different nationality. I evaluate people on character.
That murder has nothing incoming with me.
I do not believe he has anything income with people here.

LM

None of us identify with or have anything in common with his hatred.
Our President has a great heart filled with love and compassion for the American people of every race and background.
The rallies are lovefests. We can come together in an atmosphere of love and voice our support for the President without fear of physical attack or verbal abuse from the hate filled left.
We all love one another. We are united by a cause that is so much greater than our differences.

rayzorbak

Yet…. Corny Booger has called for an END to TRUMP RALLY’S?

CM in TN

Somehow I don’t see how I would fit the white nationalist label either. I’m Caucasian with just enough American Indian,(1/16th…eat your heart out Fauxcahantas), to qualify. I’m also married to an Asian Filipina.

CM in TN

Mostly on my dad’s side. A little Cherokee from TN on mom’s side, but mostly Pamunkey on dad’s side. They were part of the Powhatans.

Gail Combs

Wolfie,
Unlike Liawatha, I could probably ‘pass’ as a Cherokee. Goodness knows how many times a Cherokee has whipped out a photo of ‘Mom’ to show me how much I look like her.
Am I Cherokee? No, but I probably share DNA with them.

…After analyzing Cherokee DNA, Yates concluded, “No such mix could have resulted from post-1492 European gene flow into the Cherokee Nation.”
“So where do our non-European, non-Indian-appearing elements come from?” he asked. “The level of haplogroup T in the Cherokee (26.9 percent) approximates the percentage for Egypt (25 percent), one of the only lands where T attains a major position among the various mitochondrial lineages.”
Yates focused on haplotype X for “its relative absence in Mongolia and Siberia and a recently proven center of diffusion in Lebanon and Israel.”
In 2009, Liran I. Shlush at the Israel Institute of Technology published a paper in the journal PLOS ONE stating that the X haplotype spread through the world from the Hills of Galilee in northern Israel and Lebanon. Yates wrote: “The only other place on earth where X is found at an elevated level apart from other American Indian groups like the Ojibwe is among the Druze in the Hills of Galilee in northern Israel and Lebanon.”….
https://www.theepochtimes.com/geneticist-traces-mysterious-origins-of-native-americans-to-middle-east-ancient-greece_831180.html

One of these years, just for kicks I may get a DNA test just to see what they come up with.

Valerie Curren

Isn’t there some evidence of ancient Hebrew (I believe) rock carvings in the American Southwest predating the Colonial era? I wonder if that might be somewhat explained by the DNA journey of forbears mentioned in your comment…

rayzorbak

“White Nationalist”
I am “White” (Some Cherokee Blood, but no matter)
I am AMERICAN PATRIOT (Nationalist?)
So I guess that I am a “White Nationalist”
The problem here is:
We LET the Media DEFINE “White Nationalist” as something bad.
White “Supremacist” is an entirely different thing.

cthulhu

After “Roots”, my mom went into a years’ long fascination with genealogy. She determined that the majority of my heritage was Irish. In fact, it’s so Irish that she found a g’g’aunt who died in America after falling off a potato wagon onto a potato fork. The only way to be more Irish than that would have simultaneously involved several pints of beer and singing “Molly Malone” with others at the time.

rayzorbak

I notice she was NOT known as an Irish-AMERICAN……
I HATE the Hyphenisation (If that is even a word).
Are we AMERICANS or NOT?

cthulhu

If you’re referring to my relation, she didn’t have very much time to Americanize.
1846-1851 was the horrific Irish Potato Famine. During those five short years, a million people died of starvation and a million people left — reducing the population by about 1/4. Many of those who made it here were weakened by malnutrition and the journey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29

rayzorbak

I am aware of that time period….
My comment was about the “Hyphen American” Bullshit.

duchess01

Dayton, Ohio Shooter Connor Betts’ Driver Was His Best Friend Charles ‘Chace’ Beard, Who He Ended up Shooting
By ALLISON SCHONTER – August 6, 2019 11:17 am EDT
https://popculture.com/trending/2019/08/06/dayton-ohio-shooter-connor-betts-driver-friend-charles-chace-beard/
The second person in the 2007 Toyota Corolla that drove with Dayton gunman Connor Betts has been identified as his best friend, 24-year-old Charles ‘Chace’ Beard. Beard, who knew Betts from childhood and attended Bellbrook High School with him, was shot and critically wounded in the Sunday Dayton Shooting, though he survived and is recovering in the hospital.
Beard, an employee at Wright-Patterson Air Force base, according to his FaceBook profile, was in the chorus in a 2012 production of Rogers & Hammerstein’s musical version of Cinderella with Betts, and there are numerous photos of them together. Despite their close relationship, Beard’s name is also said to be among those on Betts’ “hit list,” which he wrote while he was a sophomore at Bellbrook High School.
[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

Harry Lime

Ah…Duchess…we’re on the same track…I just posted something similar.
It will be mighty interesting to hear what Mr. Beard has to say…

duchess01

This is not something he awoke in the morning and decided to do – somewhere in his mind – he was programmed to do this – he did not survive – because he might have talked – then, again – he was of no use to the left because of his leanings – so he had to go – done deal.

Harry Lime

I find it interesting that Betts’ “friend” Chace Beard who was in the car and critically wounded studied computer engineering and was hired as an electrical engineer for Raytheon, the defense contractor, and I’m assuming by extension worked at Wriight-Patterson Air Force Base which is in Dayton.
Whereas Betts worked at Chipotle and dressed as a woman on weekends to play mysogynist and demonic music and kept kill lists and rape lists.
Apparently they were friends since childhood and I’m not placing any particular significance to this but that is quite a contrast in personalities.

Sadie Slays

Coordinated attacks on Walmart?
7/4 – Viral video of Texas woman licking ice cream containers at Walmart
7/9 – California Man tampers with mouthwash at Walmart
7/26 – Arizona woman claims baby formula purchased at Walmart was tampered with
7/30 – Texas man pees on Walmart shelf
7/30 – Mass shooting at Mississippi Walmart
7/31 – Pennsylvania woman pees on Walmart potatoes
8/1 – Wisconsin woman claims hair condioner purchased at Walmart caused hair loss
8/3 – El Paso mass shooting at Walmart.
8/4 – Florida Walmart evacuated over mass shooting threat
8/6 – Baton Rouge shooting at Walmart
https://www.wthr.com/article/shopper-filmed-gargling-mouthwash-spitting-back-listerine-bottle-latest-viral-video
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/08/01/new-richmond-wisconsin-product-tampering-hair-loss-walmart/
https://ruinmyweek.com/trending/walmart-mouthwash-video/
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Teen-charged-for-urinating-on-shelf-of-Wal-Mart-
14267717.php
https://www.koaa.com/news/national-world-news/walmart-investigating-after-mom-claims-baby-formula-tampered-with
https://www.wtsp.com/video/news/local/hillsboroughcounty/gibsonton-walmart-evacuated-after-manager-says-they-received-a-threat/67-5e74edce-29c1-4c08-8c15-2a284fa95791
https://fox61.com/2019/08/06/police-are-responding-to-reports-of-a-shooting-at-a-walmart-in-baton-rouge-louisiana/
https://fox61.com/2019/08/06/police-are-responding-to-reports-of-a-shooting-at-a-walmart-in-baton-rouge-louisiana/

Gail Combs

You forgot the initial slam against Walmart…
Aug. 26, 2016 — Strzok wrote to Page: “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…”

… “So let’s discuss a text that hits home for me,” Goodlatte said. “On August 26, 2016, you texted Ms. Page ‘Just went to a Southern Virginia Walmart. I could smell the Trump support.’ And smell is in capital letters, all capital letters. What does Trump support smell like Mr. Strzok?”
Strzok said he was noting to Page the difference in “expression of political opinion” between different parts of the state.
“What I meant by that was, living in northern Virginia, having traveled the 100, 150 miles south within the same state, I was struck by the extraordinary difference in the expression of political opinion and belief amongst the community there and from where I lived,” Strzok stated.
Goodlatte responded: “And you described that as ‘smell’ in capital letters?”
Strzok said it was a “quick choice of words.”
Goodlatte then turned to another message Strzok sent to Page describing Virginia’s Loudoun County.
“So earlier you had texted Ms. Page, that another part of Virginia, Loudoun County, which I think is northern Virginia, was ‘still ignorant hillbillies.’ Is that what you meant? Do you consider Trump supporters to be ignorant hillbillies?”
Strzok said he did not believe Loudoun residents to be hillbillies but said that there is “a healthy sort of competition between Loudoun and Fairfax County,” where he resides….
https://www.newsweek.com/peter-strzok-trump-smell-hillbillies-1020892

duchess01

Can’t like WAPO but, can someone please tell me if this is possible? Also, is this Fake News’?
Dayton shooter Connor Betts fired at least 41 rounds in 30 seconds: cops
By Aaron Feis
August 5, 2019 | 12:56pm
https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/dayton-shooter-connor-betts-fired-at-least-41-rounds-in-30-seconds-cops/?amp
Dayton gunman Connor Betts squeezed off at least 41 shots during his 30-second rampage that left nine people dead — and was supplied with enough ammo and bullet clips to commit a much worse bloodbath, cops said Monday.
“If all the magazines that we recovered from the suspect were completely full . . . including the loose rounds found on the ground near him, as well as in a backpack that he carried, he would’ve had a maximum of 250 rounds in his possession at the time,” said Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl.
Masked and clad in a bulletproof vest, Betts, 24, opened fire with his AR-15-style rifle outside a busy stretch of bars in Dayton’s downtown Oregon District at around 1:05 a.m. Sunday, cops have said.
[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

CM in TN

It is very possible. I regularly practice and if I can fire more than 1 round per second with a semi auto. Not the most accurate shooting, but possible. Sometimes it’s just fun to dump a mag at the end of practice.

duchess01

Oh, ok, CM – thinking about the impossibility of killing and/or wounding so many – by just one shooter…so I was wondering…Thanks!

CM in TN

If they were crowded or in close proximity to one another, but can’t see him taking aim at individual targets and still maintaining that rate of fire unless he had proper training…

duchess01

Guess I am agreeing with the eye witness accounts of 3-4 men dressed in black with masks – just do not think he would be so proficient, CM – that’s all – same icky feeling I have consistently had with all of those ‘lone’ gunman who allegedly committed these atrocities…you know?

CM in TN

Agreed

duchess01

Exactomundo, wolf!!!

thinkthinkthink

The article is about the OH shooting. The eye witnesses were for the TX shooting.

duchess01

Sorry – keep getting interrupted and paths crossed – really does not matter – two patsies – programmed, brainwashed, and drugged for the same purpose and gun control legislation outcome – these were planned events – same old scenario – expecting a different result.

rayzorbak

Question was: 41 rounds in 30 seconds……. More than 1 round per second?
And it was reported that the cops took him down in 24 seconds? The video did not show a CONSTANT pattern of firing the weapon. So, therefore, I call Bullshit on this claim by the media.

A Fortiori

That is pretty fast shooting, considering he would have had to reload at least once. But as CM in TN says, a man can get there with practice.
One odd thing, most people who have the discipline to do this exhibit discipline in other areas as well – diet, finances, exercise, job, appearance, etc. I don’t see that here.

duchess01

I agree, A – you explained that quite well!! Thanks!!!

cthulhu

He had a round magazine that lead into a flat section where the normal rifle’s magazine would be. Wouldn’t necessarily have been as reliable, but had capacity to spare.

rayzorbak

It has been reported that he had a 100 round Mag…..
Still too many rounds in too little time.

Covadonga

“considering he would have had to reload at least once”
But wasn’t the COSRA Satanist guy in Ohio the one with the big drum magazines?
Assuming the drum thing didn’t jam, it would be just shoot shoot shoot, with no need to reload.

duchess01

BREAKING… ‘Manifesto’ was posted to Instagram first… Was NOT uploaded to 8Chan by shooter Patrick Crusius…(Video)
Posted by Kane on August 6, 2019 3:37 pm
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/8chan-owner-issues-statement/
Message published this morning by Jim Watkins — Founder of 8Chan
Discussion of manifesto begins at 3:54
Watkins says the ‘purported killer’s manifesto’ was published first on Instagram and then someone, not Patrick Crusius, subsequently posted it on 8Chan boards.

mandy

The guy who owns 8chan is being ordered to appear before congressionalcriminals.

mandy

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cthulhu

I’m beginning to think that the USUAL reply to congresscritters requesting anyone’s appearance before a committee should be:
“I refuse to appear voluntarily. If summoned under subpoena, I refuse to appear. If compelled, I shall assert my Fifth Amendment right to not speak. If held in contempt, I will be a political prisoner.
You have created a situation in which anyone testifying to a congressional inquiry may be referred for prosecution under U.S. Code Sec. 1001(c)(2). Recent history shows that this would include instances where the inquiry misheard testimony, conflated testimony with unrelated evidence, misunderstood testimony, or simply heard two different ‘takes’ on a situation, Rashomon-like. There are simply too many geriatric, ideological, mentally-challenged, and corrupt members of Congress to feel that even the most strict adhesion to literal facts would not rise to the level of self-incrimination that the Fifth Amendment protects us from. Furthermore, I would be expected — at my own great expense — to hire a Washington-savvy swamp lawyer who might keep me from replying “good morning” when it was sleeting outside.
This referral would then be sent to the utterly corrupt, contemptible, ideological, and contemptuous DoJ who could be counted-on to manufacture additional process crimes around the issue while claiming they could sniff me out in a WalMart.
In short, in the immortal words of Yogi Berra: Include me out.”

Eilert

This is Jim Watkins answer to this:

duchess01

Oh, noes…but, it is all a lie – poor guy!!!

Sadie Slays

Just realized that Quentin Tarantino’s movie about the Manson murders was released right before these shootings. Pure coincidence from Hollywood!

kea

They had another movie (hobbs and shaw?) and BB showed all the guns used in that one….

Harry Lime
Harry Lime

I should say possible suspect in custody. It’s too early to tell what this was about. Possible gunfire and police have somebody in custody according to the video.

LM

I don’t remember seeing this posted yet.
Apologies if I am repeating something.
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism-conspiracy-immigration/we-wont-get-fooled-again-anatomy-false-flag-event

SingularZoe

Hate to say, used to listen to that Commonsense show, just not sure about that guy. Thought I liked at one time.

LM

I know very little about him, but I thought what he had to say about this was relevant.
I am really missing Voat.
☹️

CM in TN

Yeah, I take him with a grain of salt. He has some fantastical ideas sometimes that I think are just too far out in left field. Kinda a doom porn site. Sometimes he does have good stuff, so buyer beware…

Brave and Free

If they push this red flag through it won’t take long for the sh@# to start. From OT Dems want to target Trump supporters already!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/06/representative-joaquin-castro-redflags-trump-supporters-for-immediate-targeting/

SingularZoe

I’ve learned so much on this post.

LM

If we don’t push back against the false narratives being employed against us, we have more that the threat to our 2nd amendment to worry about.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/un-plans-new-global-censorship-push-to-combat-hate-speech/
Remember, global hate speech will be defined by a mostly Islamic world governing body if this is allowed.
The left loves the UN.

Brave and Free

A hot August for sure and we have 25 days to go. I think it’s only going to get hotter too.
Stay safe everyone and watch your 6

rayzorbak

And…. carry LEGALLY.

crossthread42

100 % AGREE!

ozzytrumpster

This site is great and has a lot of info

SingularZoe

Ozzy, that’s a great site. Thanks.

ozzytrumpster

Lots of links to stories from all over. He appears, like our wolf, to have had contact with the deep state. Some of the shit he digs up is amazing. He did a series on surveillance that’s with a look. Also on some odd sites that are what he calls cabal

pgroup

Just heard Joe Pags report that gatewaypundit says that the El Paso killer admitted that the democrat debate pushed him over the edge. When they all raised their hands to give healthcare to illegals, he felt he had no option but to go shooting. Reported to a talk show host in AZ by a 30 year FIB agent.
I’ve been assigned to spin this for the donkey party but I’ve got writers block. /s

Gail Combs

REMINDER — RECENT Q posts a week or so BEFORE FALSE FLAG.
Was this what PUSHED the DemonRats to stage mass shootings and DIVERT OUR ATTENTION TO RED FLAG GUN LAWS???

Historical context MATTERS.
The Mueller Report and Mueller Testimony was a complete DUD.
……

New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Jul 2019 – 12:34:19 PM
Reminder re: impeachment.
2/3rd Senate vote required to impeach POTUS.
53-47
Logical thinking.
You are watching D’s ‘con’ liberal base using ‘hope’ tactics while maintaining ‘POTUS obstruction of Justice’ FAKE NEWS narrative.
Think 2020.
Q
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3534
New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Jul 2019 – 12:50:06 PM
https://www.traffickingmatters.com/2018-federal-human-trafficking-report/
Maryland has second-most defendants charged in federal human trafficking cases?
Who represents Maryland in the House/Senate?
Did you know:
The last three mayors of Baltimore have all stepped down or been forced out of office for corruption
All three were Democrats

See a pattern?
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 29, 2019
The More You Know…
Q
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3535
New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Jul 2019 – 1:04:01 PM
Anonymous
29 Jul 2019 – 1:01:13 PM
>>7243401
The weblink wont open
>>7243655
Anons crashed the site.
High-volume traffic.
THE GREAT AWAKENING.

Q
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Q3543
!!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ba9242 No.7247095
Jul 29 2019 15:27:17 (EST)
HOW DID WE NOT SEE THIS BEFORE??
So obvious. Ugh. Kicking myself.
C Before D’
Coats before DECLASS
We have to remove the blockade to DECLAS by removing the DNI. Then we can DECLAS. Duh.
https://twitter.com/ReIncarnatedET/status/1155927864820109312
— ReIncarnatedET (@ReIncarnatedET) July 29, 2019
Speed accelerated +5
Q
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Q3544
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ba9242 No.7247581
Jul 29 2019 15:47:08 (EST)
Jeffrey Epstein is in danger of being murdered before his trial says victims’ lawyer https://t.co/dkhmQVm3Dx
— Daily Mail US (@DailyMail) July 29, 2019
Q
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3538
New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Jul 2019 – 2:14:06 PM
Italy’s Matteo Salvini refuses to back down!
“Who betrayed Europe…Who occupied this Europe in the name of multinationals & uncontrolled immigration…The Merkels, the Macrons, the Soros’, & the Junckers!”
God bless Salvini for standing up for his people! #RAIRFoundation pic.twitter.com/bWqDKf5Gkr
— Amy Mek (@AmyMek) July 29, 2019
We now have plenty of space.
Q
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New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Jul 2019 – 2:21:35 PM
Anonymous
29 Jul 2019 – 2:18:29 PM
>>7244873
Salvini is a PATRIOT
>>7244956
Italy is w/ POTUS.
Attempts by D’s to prevent disclosure of FVEY material (re: Nunes non_official ways) was DENIED.
They are powerless.
Enjoy the show.
Q
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Q 3536 says, in part:
Sleepers present problems re: staff fills.
More coming?
Q

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NOTE COMMENT: “John Solomon on Lou Dobb said that behind the scenes, Coates has been thwarting President’s efforts to get transparency on what went wrong on Russia case. Wray’s FBI has been hiding/prevent us from seeing information. John Solomon’s column tomorrow will illustrate crazy legal arguments Wray’s team using to block non-classified, non-controversial info from coming to light. Has not responded to 8 FOIA’s from John Solomon.”
So Wray is a SLEEPER???….
Q said on Dec 22 2017 11:14:17
TRUST WRAY. — Q
787
Feb 18 2018 17:49:07
TRUST SESSIONS. TRUST WRAY.
2018 WILL BE GLORIOUS. — Q
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1122
Apr 10 2018 00:48:24 TRUST SESSIONS. TRUST WRAY. TRUST KANSAS. TRUST HOROWITZ. TRUST HUBER.
Q

SO was Q giving the DEEP STATE Dis-information and making them think Pres. Trump trusted Wray???
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3565
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
30 Jul 2019 – 9:08:18 PM
Transcripts are out tomorrow. The first demonstrable proof to show that not only did we not collude, but the whole world was against us and Donald Trump still won in 2016! When it’s all said and done, the story will be of a global effort to take us down that backfired big time!
— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) July 31, 2019
See Guardian article.
How do you get ahead of a story?
Coincidence?
Q
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3566
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
30 Jul 2019 – 9:41:49 PM
[24hr Warning]
Be vigilant.
See something.
Say something.
Know your surroundings at all times.
Q

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Q Knew something was up and WARNED US.
Future proves Past.

mollypitcher5

People are taking the evidence directly to the EPPD. I’m looking for the 4PM press conference to see if they addressed any of this

mollypitcher5

click on the tweet and the timeline is full of people/pics of multiple shooter evidence and qquestions

TheseTruths

“I think the other side was BAITED into false flags.”
The only problem I have with this is that innocent people were murdered.
I agree that our side is capable of baiting them. They are running out of options and are desperate. The speed with which these shootings occurred, the narrative about Pres. Trump sparking the attacks with “racist” rhetoric, and the verbal attacks against all white people, are dizzying. It feels like an avalanche. I shudder to think what they will do next. They must be defeated.

Gail Combs

Unfortunately we are in a CIVIL WAR and it just got HOT.
Knowing it was going to go HOT and being able to do something to prevent it are two different things.
We DO NOT WANT RED FLAG LAWS do we? So to be consistant we can not arrest people BEFORE they commit a crime, especially if we are not sure of exactly what is planned only that SOMETHING is planned.

TheseTruths

Yes, I’m thinking defeat at the cellular level of the deepest planners who are trying to destroy us. I don’t know if the coming DECLAS and nailing corrupt officials will help to defeat this kind of warfare. I’ve been hoping so.

Gail Combs

See what I said about Decimation and taking out the leaders.
If Coyote pack attacks you, you have to KILL the lead coyote to stop the attack. I have a friend with a mangled leg who can attest to that. People (and other social animals) are no different. Only 1 in 10 or more likely 1 in 100** are ACTUAL Leaders. Take those leaders down and the sheeple will mill around and dissipate.
**Remember the Commies have been TRAINING people from birth to be FOLLOWERS not leaders

ozzytrumpster

Shackleton nailed it.. I think about 1 in 12 . Not sure of the exact number but studies have since proved him correct. He was fucking amazing. The story of how he led and saved his entire crew from certain death is incredible.

Covadonga

‘“the other side was BAITED into false flags.”
The only problem I have with this is that innocent people were murdered.’
I certainly sympathize with, and even share this perspective. The only counter view I can offer is that
If the Soebarkah Dept. of Just Us/FIB were so thoroughly corrupt, and the staffing constraints are so severe, that 900 days of Trump can’t straighten the mess out, then Trump/Barr might not be able to just find the “Deputy Director of Special Event Planning” in the FIB directory and slam his ass in jail, followed by the asses of everyone on the TO below him.
No ability to solve the issue in top-down fashion, as above, might not leave the White Hats with any better option than a bottom-up approach — i.e. let the attack happen, then investigate the crime with a white-hatted detective team, as in the TV show “Law and Order”.
This last option was manifestly not, if I understand the issue correctly, what was done in Vegas in October ’17. So in 672 additional days of Trump, maybe there has at least been that much progress.

ozzytrumpster

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1. Something isn’t adding up about the narrative that this El Paso killer is a pro-Trump white supremacist.
Observations:
#1 – The ‘manifesto’ of the El Paso killer may not be genuine, but let’s assume it is.
I have read it, unlike 99% of lefturds. My take?
Put it this way: I’ve never met a Trump fan who is an anti-capitalist, anti-hispanic apocalyptic enviro-loon, whose target (WalMart, El Paso) would be full of Trump fans.
Have you?
Doesn’t add up.
Another thing that’s bothering me:
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2. If the nutcase wanted to kill hispanics, why choose El Paso, 659 miles away from Allen (TX) – a 9 1/2 hr car ride.
The softer target is Laredo (96% Hispanic), which is far closer to Allen, where he lived. It’s 455 miles and a 6 1/2 hr drive away. It also has WalMarts, BTW.
But for some reason, the guy chose El Paso.
Why?
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3. I guess we will find out, soon enough.
But I can’t help mention that ANTIFA have a MAJOR 10 day operation planned in Texas (Sept 1-10).
Their target? El Paso.
ANTIFA already have an established, organized network in Texas. Just look it up on the web – you’ll be surprised.
Not just that – they’ve been super excited about this operation for a while. Chatter chatter.
https://www.kvia.com/news/el-paso/leftist-groups-plan-ten-day-resistance-convergence-at-border/1102483648
Leftist groups plan ten-day “resistance convergence” at border
http://www.kvia.com
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4. So while it’s speculation on my part, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to point out that we seem to have a kid with anti-capitalist and apocalyptic environmental views, targeting US citizens at a Walmart in El Paso, some 650 miles from his home.
Which happens to also be ground central for ANTIFA.
Has the guy been radicalized by far left anarchists online? He doesn’t fit the MAGA profile AT ALL.
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5. Let’s wait and see.
But there’s a lot not adding up about this tragedy.
At least, from my POV.
My gut tells me that many libtards are jumping to conclusions way too fast – and that this may not turn out to be what they think it is.
In the meantime, we pray for the victims.
🙏🙏
The end.
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6. ADDENDUM
A new mass killing in Dayton, Ohio?
At ‘Ned’s Pepper Bar’, quote:
‘About Ned Peppers
Ned Peppers is a traditional western-ish themed bar located right in the heart of the Oregon District in Dayton Ohio.’
The owner, James Schaefer, was a Dayton institution and successful businessman. He died just a few months ago. He lived in wealthy Beavercreek.
Again, strange target for a MAGA Trump supporter. Could be a local issue.
Let’s see what happens.
http://nedpeppers.com/nightatneds/
About Ned Peppers
Ned Peppers Bar – Dayton, Ohio
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7. Remember : the investigations into both of these mass shootings remain ongoing.
As I tooted a few days ago, there’s something not adding up about either of them, especially the El Paso incident.
The leftist commentariat and Dem politicians have gotten way ahead of their skis on this, without knowing all the facts.
It’s a very dangerous strategy that could backfire on them if, say, the shooter is revealed as one of ‘theirs’.
Another thing:
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8. Trump’s reaction has been excellent.
He has stayed above the insane, extreme and frankly unhinged seething we have witnessed from leftists.
Notice something else – Trump hasn’t made any definitive statements about the DETAILS behind the killings. Yes, he’s correctly alluded to insanity, white supremacy etc, but he hasn’t made categorical statements about motive, in either case.
His enemies HAVE.
That’s interesting to me, because Trump would know everything by now.
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9. And did you note his reference to ‘Toledo’ in his official statement?
Of course he’s being widely mocked for making an error. Perhaps he did. But do you think it’s Trump’s MO?
I don’t. Remember, Toledo is one of the most violent and corrupt cities in the USA. It’s regularly featured in the top 20 most dangerous cities in the nation, by the FBI.
And guess what? It’s a Democratic hell-holes, like Baltimore.
Trump mentioned Toledo for a reason, IMO. Let’s see what happens.
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10. The Dems think they have blood in the water. They’re being EXTREMELY arrogant and hateful, aren’t they.
We have been here before, many times.
They forget that Trump is a master strategist, an expert at luring enemies with baits, before he strikes. Sun Tzu:
‘If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he
may grow arrogant. Attack him
where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.’
Watch, learn, etc.
And don’t worry.
#MAGA
The end.

wheatietoo

Or…it could be the Creamer Deep Left dark ops operatives.
What people refer to as ‘Deep State’, I think of as DEEP LEFT.
Are we being herded into calling for the destruction of the FBI?
Think about it, Wolfie.
“Infiltrate and Destroy From Within”
^^Who does this?^^
This is what the commies do.
This is their MO.
This is what they have done, repeatedly.
What better way to create Chaos…than to destroy our Law Enforcement institutions.
Then call into question, all the previous convictions so as to create a tsunami of Demands to Free All the Prisoners.
Chaos.
Bob Creamer has gone underground.
But it’s a safe bet that he’s still doing his dirty deeds.
Is Creamer working out of Hussein’s bunker with ValJar?
Wouldn’t surprise me.

wheatietoo

Oh yeah, I agree…it has to be Admitted.
It has to be Admitted in order to clean it out!
I just can’t shake the feeling that We’re Being Herded into declaring “FBI Bad”.
Just like the self loathing in “USA Bad”.
Do we declare our whole country is ‘bad’ because we’ve had bad people doing bad things?
That’s what the Left has been doing.
That’s what they’ve brainwashed our young people with.
Instilling Self Loathing.
If we are a ‘bad country’…then the next step is to ’embrace control’.
In other words, “We are bad and we should be controlled.”
And yeah, I hope that Wray has been doing a head-fake.
It would make sense to do it that way…
Like Q said:
“How do you take down a wounded animal?”
Or words to that effect.

SingularZoe

Wheatie, as you know, it’s always been a goal of the commies to destroy the FBI, and I think you’re onto it.

wheatietoo

Yes…RENEGADES.
Good word!
That’s it exactly.
That’s what I’ve been getting at.
It is Hussein’s Renegades.
That is who these Deep Left Dark Operatives are!
FBI Renegades.
Ironic, isn’t it.
Hussein’s code name was “Renegade”.

mollypitcher5

Guess where one of ‘Renegade’s’ Fast n Furious guns ended up?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7113/insane-paris-attacker-used-gun-obamas-fast-and-michael-qazvini
According to a shocking new report by Judicial Watch, the guns used by Islamic terrorists in the November 2015 ISIS attacks in Paris came directly from President Obama’s own administration. The guns were distributed to criminals during the ATF’s notorious “Fast and Furious” program. Ultimately, the weapons traveled from Phoenix, Arizona to Paris where they were used to inflict harm on innocent civilians. Jihadists killed 130 people and wounded hundreds of others in the deadly attack at the heart of Paris.

drillerelite

I forgot about that!

Gail Combs

“… There are still RENEGADES in FBI.” OR THE C_A!!!
Remember Q is always calling out the ‘Clowns’ and do not try to tell me they are NOT working in the USA.
Peter Strzok — C_A
Lisa Page — Possible C_A
Nellie Ohr — C_A
John Brennan C_A Director who was instrumental in starting Muh Russia

Covadonga

“That was BEFORE Q.”
And, not to put too fine a point on it, but, at this instant, we are POST Q.
Hopefully that will prove to be a very short-lived situation.

ozzytrumpster

Brian cates doesn’t believe in cia fbi deep staters pulling off anything. In fact they’d be hard rested intellectually to pull of their socks. As evidence look at the spy gate plotters and their plots. Mr bean crossed with Monty python. Incompetent and idiotic

ozzytrumpster

That dude that Potus swears by

realsauce

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ozzytrumpster

Stalin who said control the opposition by being them? Or Lenin?

Gail Combs

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ozzytrumpster

But tbh strozk and page and Comey etc. they are seriously incompetent

Gail Combs

Not incompetent as much as OVER CONFIDENT…
They NEVER thought she would lose!

ozzytrumpster

Yes . Cocky little wankers. They considered themselves one of the chosen ones

ozzytrumpster

IMO it’s a hellava lot harder to do mind control on a deaf dude. All that talking to them don’t work especially at night when they take their hearing aids out

ozzytrumpster

And glasses off too.
No chance

wheatietoo

Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks there is probably a Connection to Antifa…in the reason why the El Paso shooter went to El Paso.

SingularZoe

Lot of similarities between the manifesto and the one in N.Z.

wheatietoo

Yes…and I think both were written by ‘others’ and not by the shooters.
It’s good to see you, Zoe!
*big grin*

SingularZoe

Yes, written by others. You know, the nazis were huge greenies. See Mark Musser’s book for more info. Good to see you, too, Wheatie.

kea

FBI Insider: El Paso Shooter Told Officials It was the Democrat Debate on Free Healthcare to Illegals — Not Trump! — That Triggered His Mass Shooting
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/fbi-insider-el-paso-shooter-told-officials-it-was-the-democrat-debate-on-free-healthcare-to-illegals-not-trump-that-triggered-his-mass-shooting/

wheatietoo

Yep…definitely a Dark Ops team working with this kid.

mollypitcher5

I know it’s hard to tell much from a second in time picture but Crusius doesn’t look battle ready in this pic. even in the ones of him in the WalMart doorway..he looks slightly slack, no intensity like getting the gameface on to kill humans.
Had somebody gone in ahead of him with rifle concealed or unnoticed ..um like the hispanic woman said? .
Has it ever been said how far he got in the store while shooting? It must have been fairly far because I saw vids of victims being pushed out toward the front on merchandise utility carts.
Where’s the picture of him leaving the store?
LOL..I could go on forever!

TheseTruths

Do you have any idea what might have actually happened? Those two are outside the mall, right? But no shots were fired in the mall. Or were they outside the Walmart?
The kid shooter survived and is supposedly talking, but I doubt we’ll get to hear what he says or what really happened. I can’t imagine him saying others were involved. Now I wonder if he will survive for very long.

kea

Oh I fully agree Wolf. I just found it interesting that they are pointing out it ‘wasn’t because of Trump’.

mollypitcher5

One other telling thing is…every crime that’s happened at a WalMart usually has at least a couple of good, clear pictures of the perpetrator . Why is it it this time only one fuzzy picture. They always show the person coming in and the person leaving which he obviously did since he was apprehended in his car..out in the parking lot or on the street.
No details at all. None. They’re hiding facts.

mollypitcher5

They can’t. It would show more than one shooter. One shooter is the standard fare..it’s the lone wolf, has a rage or mental illness. Two or more…that’s a problem . This one is the most clear of all the FF’s that there is some type of deep left help. The pictures don’t lie. If it was a cult or group of white national supremacists wowo all the better for optics BUT they’re hiding it so it only leaves one answer. They don’t want the public to know who was involved

mollypitcher5

Also, the clothes he has on are the ‘uniform’ of WalMart, at least out here and I’d imagine it’s everywhere. Khaki pants and a black shirt. Was the other shooter going to to most of the attack and this guy would blend in and run out?

mollypitcher5

Wait..it’s khaki pants and navy blue shirt..but close enough.

Aubergine