Dear KAG: 20211005 Open Thread

Cover image: Bald Eagle Study Sheet Print by Steve Goad.


James O’Keefe and his team’s latest.

Please, download if this is still is up when this post publishes,

Where to start….

This photo actually resembles my late dog, T. Talk about a pooch that created a mess in the middle of the night if you didn’t take the trash out.

Herbert Lay was in office July 1, 1968 – December 12, 1969. That was fifty two years ago. Nothing has changed.

He’s right. It’s true.

Wishful thinking?

[GASP] So…”Biden” didn’t mandate anything?


The Big Apple wakes up.

Oh, and about those outages at FB, etc.

Too bad, so sad.

As of this writing, it’s over. FB and its affiliates are back up and running.

Oh, well.

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

And now for some mood music:

This video was two hours old when I copied and pasted.

Your weekly reminder to take the pledge, and if the non-mainstream people are to be believed, including Lin Wood, we will need to take this seriously very soon:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

Message from General Flynn.


Be fearless and don’t wait for the next superstar to stand up and fight back against this health tyranny…each of us has our own inner strength to take the harder right path. In your communities, at your local city council meetings, school board hearings, zoning board meetings, everywhere elected officials reside, we should be in there ensuring they are doing what we the people voted for them to do. Get involved now, no more waiting for someone else to do it…it is our time, our moment in history and our obligation to the next generation and the one after that…Local Action has a National Impact 

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.


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Today, on the Feast of St. Faustina who gave us the image of Divine Mercy as given to her, all three readings are good.

JONAH 3:1-10

1Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2“Arise, go to Nin’eveh, that great city, and proclaim to it the message that I tell you.” 3So Jonah arose and went to Nin’eveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nin’eveh was an exceedingly great city, three days’ journey in breadth. 4Jonah began to go into the city, going a day’s journey. And he cried, “Yet forty days, and Nin’eveh shall be overthrown!” 5And the people of Nin’eveh believed God; they proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them. 6Then tidings reached the king of Nin’eveh, and he arose from his throne, removed his robe, and covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. 7And he made proclamation and published through Nin’eveh, “By the decree of the king and his nobles: Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything; let them not feed, or drink water, 8but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and let them cry mightily to God; yea, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence which is in his hands. 9Who knows, God may yet repent and turn from his fierce anger, so that we perish not?” 10When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, God repented of the evil which he had said he would do to them; and he did not do it.

PSALMS 130:1-4, 7-8

1Out of the depths I cry to thee, O LORD! 2Lord, hear my voice! Let thy ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications! 3If thou, O LORD, shouldst mark iniquities, Lord, who could stand? 4But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared. 7O Israel, hope in the LORD! For with the LORD there is steadfast love, and with him is plenteous redemption. 8And he will redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

LUKE 10:38-42

38Now as they went on their way, he entered a village; and a woman named Martha received him into her house. 39And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching. 40But Martha was distracted with much serving; and she went to him and said, “Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.” 41But the Lord answered her, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things; 42one thing is needful. Mary has chosen the good portion, which shall not be taken away from her.”

That Psalm has a special place in my heart. I actually sang this once a couple decades or so ago.


Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)


St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Amen brother.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

JP nails it. Again. All swimmers, boat people, and SCUBA sorts…I was dying.

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DP, you knocked it out of the park. Again. Just like that congresscritter in the R v D baseball game.


Yes she did.
Thank you DP

Deplorable Patriot


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank God! I just got in. We are under severe attack! It’s all about PFIZER, and I am certain that PFIZER and it’s wicked ALLIES are behind the attacks!!!


Eh, you could have gotten in later….thank God that DP got in to open the thread!!!!


Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think it’s only BECAUSE this published THAT I got in.

And that’s very interesting.


Hmmmm….it is, that. Do you think it might be because her post was scheduled?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As soon as it posted, I could get in. My getting in also matches a change in day, Eastern Time.

One or the other or both, IMO, is why my lockout broke.


Kind of begs an experiment where you schedule a post in advance that says, “This is a nothing post. Please don’t comment.” It might shake something loose.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I may indeed engage in some experimentation.

I want to see how this day progresses. Could be interesting.

Deplorable Patriot

Open it? I was zzzzz.

The scheduler is my friend.



Pfizer to rename itself “Mengele International”.



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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is just so amazing. Nobody would believe me how much science has sold out, until BOOM – on film.


Those guys said exactly what has been said here many times. It should be shocking to some.

Cuppa Covfefe

The “ClimateGate1” and “ClimateGate2” data dumps (leaks, NOT hacks) showed the same inhuman disregard for the truth, the scientific method, honesty, integrity, and the human cost of their evil.

Sparse matrices infilled with bogus data, number juggling that would astonish Barnum, and media and “scientific” journal attacks on anyone and everyone who dared question the ivory-tower denizens of UEA, “the State Penn”, 1000 Manniacs, and a host of others feeding at the Climastrology trough of untruths.

The poor sod who was coerced into programming these lies, “Harry Readme” commented in great detail as to what he was forced to do, basically Reems-ing the data and al-gore-itms to produced the desired results every time. One fellow (Steve McIntyre?) found that the code produced the same results regardless of input values… can anyone say static variables…

Gore-Bull warming was a dry run for COVIDIOCY. Unfortunately, that scam is still running, too. So we are going broke due to high energy prices, freezing, probably starving as well, many freedoms are gone and rights ignored to “save the planet”, and now we have a rampant destruction of our collective health brought on by a fake vax for a usually harmless virus.

Step aside Josef Mengele. Rat-faced dog-decorated lawn ornament Faux-Xi has taken your blood-stained mantle and your title: Doctor Death.


What amazes me is that people don’t think highly paid doctors and scientists….especially atheists….can’t be bought like a politician.

And “science” is FILLED with atheists, who worship “science” as a religion.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Oh, real science is a MESS now.


Dr. Don Lincoln, the insufferably arrogant host of Fermilab YT videos, ends most of them with the blasphemous tag-line “Remember – physics is everything!”.

Of course, physics ISN’T “everything” – it’s merely everything physical.

Mental myopia.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve been thinking about this, and the most arrogant and dismissive of morality in science that I have met are not necessarily atheists per se, but fallen away Catholics who quit practicing specifically because the Church explicitly says that what they do for a living is immoral. There was one guy I met…he was nasty about it, too.

I’ve met some fairly ethical atheists over the years. But, at the same time, I’ve met a number who were downright abrasive and uncharitable as well.


Pfizer netted$15 billion last year.

They are, indeed, “run on Covid money.”

President Trump knew their weakness: Love of Money.

It will destroy them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m not backing down!!! No matter how much they ATTACK OUR HOSTING COMPANY (using that FBI SHILL group, “Anonymous”.)


I really believe the last time anyone was doing any REAL medical science was in the 1960s or even earlier.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m waiting impatiently for this company to be bankrupted, liquidated, and all that just like Purdue Pharma was over Oxycontin.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great JP video. YUP. Don’t grab the edge. It’s NOT APPROVED.


I was waiting for him to shove safety-boy into the pool.

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Me too actually.

Deplorable Patriot

The edge, a towel, a hand up, just about anything with length….

Valerie Curren

Well not just thumbs 😉


Dirk Diggler (@TDProductions2) Tweeted:

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Is Ricky Vaughn back???!!!


Youre not first youre last! He doesnt like Letting Brandon go first.

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Valerie Curren

Let’s Go Brandon!!!


COVID chart showing Israel v. Sweden

Israel Covid cases spiked as they began rolling out the third booster.

 Sweden, where natural immunity is supreme, had very little rise as Delta struck.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Israel is officially insane. Just like Australia.


It’s the Jewish Death Wish™ I’m telling ya. In operation since before Moses.


Lucky for Pfizer that Israel doesn’t have Internet service.

If they saw a chart like that, they’d be aghast!


I cannot believe that Israel is killing their own. Sad to see that specially since many Jews seek refuge in Israel. They are smart not to know what they are doing to their own people. Why such evil.


Antonio Montana 🇦🇺 (@dnforca) Tweeted:
What a mess, Qantas!



Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re NAZIS.

On the bright side, the German and Japanese people have been liberated from historic blame.

The “Allies” are now the idiot fascists.

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As an airline Captain, lemme just say….

Let’s not forget about the innumerable doctors, nurses, and medical professionals…to say nothing of firemen, police, and other first responders…..who are suffering this same fate.

I am so very, DEEPLY, proud to have a place among them.

This ain’t over. Not by even a little bit!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think the vaxxies know that this one is “win or die” for us and “win or shame” for them. When push comes to shove, they will scatter like RATS and hope the SHAME lands on “the others”.


They won’t be able to walk the streets in safety.



Well … based on the terrifying news of all the deaths from the VAXX … the vaxies won’t be around …


Nope. Work too hard, do too much for it to be over.


Don’t forget the sacrifices….time away from home and family….in order to serve others.

It’s not a “career choice” as much as it is a lifestyle and state of mind.


Apparently the song is titled “Feels Like Home” by Randy Newman.

Wiki says it has been performed by the following people:


Other versions Various other artists have recorded the song, including:     
Randy Newman for his 2008 album Harps and Angels, as well as live versions in the 1998 box set Guilty: 30 Years of Randy Newman and the 2011 album Live in London    

Mario Frangoulis for his 2008 album Mario & Friends: What a Wonderful World    

Edwina Hayes for her 2008 album Pour Me A Drink and the soundtrack to the film My Sister’s Keeper    

Josh Groban for some editions of his 2010 album Illuminations    

Neil Diamond for his 2010 album Dreams    

Jai McDowall for his 2011 album Believe    

Aled Jones for his 2011 album Forever    

Katie Melua for her 2012 album Secret Symphony Bonus Edition.    

Charlotte Jaconelli for her 2014 album Solitaire    

Diana Krall and Bryan Adams for Krall’s 2015 album Wallflower    

Judy Collins and Jackson Browne for Collins’ 2015 album Strangers Again    

Inger Marie Gundersen for her 2018 album Feels Like Home    

Raul Malo and Martina McBride for his album “You’re Only Lonely”


I checked all the female versions on youtube, and none of them match the voice in the video above. It seems like I recognize the voice, but I can’t place it. The closest I can guess is the Canadian singer who goes by the name ‘Feist’.

Who is singing this cover of “Feels Like Home”?


Ill see if i can find that…



Any luck on finding out who is singing this song?



Replied on your original question. Fairly sure i found her.


Here is one of my favorites:


Sounds similar but not QUITE.


Ahhh I think it is this lady.


Yes, I found both of those, but neither is the one in the original tweet. It may be the same singer (not sure), but it’s not the same take.

The original (in the Tweet) is solo with acoustic guitar, while the top video immediately above is a duet and the second video is a piano version.

I’m amazed this is so difficult.

It’s (apparently) a well known song, the singer is almost certainly a professional (if it isn’t Chantal Kreviazuk, which it might be), and it was featured in someone’s tweet, so it almost certainly should be available online.

I track down songs all the time, but I’m not able to find this one.

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Hmmm. Im sure its a professional bc a twit like that would prob give credit to a nonpro. Maybe lije you said is likely kreviazuk but diff recording. 🤔

Valerie Curren

This is the extent of my Quantas “knowledge”…

That is So Evil what these tyrants are doing to good & formerly free people. God, we cry out to You for deliverance!!!


Your weekly reminder to take the pledge, and if the non-mainstream people are to be believed, including Lin Wood, we will need to take this seriously very soon…

Define “take this seriously very soon”.

Because if you mean….unto death….I already did take it THAT seriously, and always have.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. After Jazi Fascist Dirty Judge “Kapo” Garland went after PTA MOTHERS……

What a shithead. Our – OUR Department of “Justice” is WORTHLESS.


If your airline is holding fast on the jab, see if they can poach RF121’s spouse from Southwest. Make SW go down HARD!!!!


I’m beginning to suspect that airline management industry-wide has been informed that there is going to be a major new outbreak of a much more deadly variant this fall which is going to return the public to non-traveling like they did in 2020.

The idea being….giving airline mgmt the ability to say “see? we told ya so” in the class action lawsuits that have already been filed….to say nothingnof all the other reasons why the sick, twisted, psychotic FUCKS would do something like that.

The Deep State is playing for keeps, and it has already murdered millions. Millions more mean nothing to it.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think you’re right.


Never have I wanted to be more wrong.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think there is great likelihood that said variant will be made out to be much worse than it really is.


The “variant” could likely be all those who took a full load of jabs succumbing to ordinary flu or any other ailment taking advantage of their weakened immune systems.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – and they need the bad PCR tests to keep classifying those deaths as COVID.


Well, that’s it, right? I mean, with so many of us now “in the know” about taking vitamin D, zinc, quercetin, vitamin C, and everything, the new “variant” as well as the flu and other illnesses are just not going to be as bad. So they will have to make it up, using the media. Just like they did with Covid in 2020 with all those phony videos of people dying in hospitals.

But we’re onto them. They may think it will work, but it won’t with us. And there are more red-pilled every day.

Also, I know more and more instances of people getting sick with Covid and curing themselves at home, never consulting a damned doctor. And those people have friends and relatives who are watching from the sidelines while they get well. Those same people watching have had other relatives and friends DIE in the deathcamps, er, hospitals. Talk about a wake-up call.

It’s getting harder for the bad guys to keep the blinders on the populace.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly! We are definitely winning the information war at the popular level.


More red pilled every day.


I fear that you are right, and hope that the non-airline part of their fascist plot falls apart first.


… 🤨👍 …


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When Kirk pressed Bones for an answer, he said “Put on a red shirt and it’ll all be over before the next commercial break!” 😁

Valerie Curren


Valerie Curren

What about those of us who’d rather put on a Red Hat!


“What about those of us who’d rather put on a Red Hat!”


I don’t know the reference for ‘Red Hat’, so you lost me 😁

The ‘red shirt’ reference has to do with characters on Star Trek, any non-recurring roles for members of the Enterprise crew… who are soon to perish 😂

From Wiki:

“A “redshirt” is a stock character in fiction who dies soon after being introduced. The term originates from the original Star Trek (NBC, 1966–69) television series in which the red-shirted security personnel frequently die during episodes.

Redshirt deaths are often used to dramatize the potential peril that the main characters face.”

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Valerie Curren

Thanks Scott, I’m quite familiar w/ redshirting! I was referring to MAGA hats–once more into the breach & not wanting it to all be over via the peace of the eternal dirt nap!


I thought you probably were familiar, but maybe some people weren’t 👍

Thank you for explaining the MAGA hat, I appreciate it! 😁

Valerie Curren

I thought nothing was too obscure for you Scott! Well even my husband still can’t read my mind–not that I Expect that or anything 😉


Just to give the ongoing Linux mess a place to anchor…..

When you have a program that attempts to implement the functionality while hiding the unpleasantness, this is frequently known as a “wrapper”.

The program “apt” is a wrapper for “dpkg”. The program “gufw” is a graphic wrapper for “ufw”.

I wonder how Robert is doing.


I’m enjoying reading your explainers even if I know the material.


Thank you. Are you doing the exercises, and are they fun for you? Have you been catching my errors (and there have been several)?

I’ve been trying to do things within the context of the RasPi 400, but most of the stuff so far is ancient and would work on a generic Linux box ten years ago.

Valerie Curren

Are you a fan of refurbed & second-hand computers? We used to get catalogs from Tiger Direct & they had some of that stuff. There’s also a local guy…


If you want to get started using Linux, having to figure out how to put it onto some recent but random computer hardware is not a good way to begin. You might be happy faffing about with that sort of thing later on, as an exercise, even, but for starters, you will be much better off with something like one of the Raspberry Pi units, where the OS is guaranteed to be ready to run as it should right out from square one.

There’s the RasPi 400 with its integrated keyboard and mouse, or you can get the standalone Pi 4 in kit form, (which should include things like a powersupply, case, and micro-hdmi-to-hdmi adapter cable — some assembly required!) and connect any usb keyboard, mouse and monitor that you might already have.

You don’t want to spend a lot of effort on fighting the hardware!

Valerie Curren

Thanks 🙂


Actually I researched platforms that had been tested (old used laptops) and discovered the one I had was supposed to work out of the box. And it did. Hardware compatibility lists saved me messing with more boxes and cables.


I should note that Robert’s OS was not “ready to run as it should right out from square one.”


I am, actually….with a couple of caveats. I have a bunch of HP and Dell machines running Linux — this one is a Dell. And you can use Wolf’s “buy the magazine, boot off the DVD, it works!” method — which mostly works [except when it doesn’t]. You’ll want to be picky about which DVD you use — probably shouldn’t start with Arch, for instance — but Ubuntu or Mint are generally good choices.

Caveats — be careful that the machine you get can run 64-bit software, don’t get anything tiny, and don’t start with laptops.

I have a number of machines I got for about $150 each. One of the nice things about them is that they can do optical drives.

(Raspberry Pi computers run off of a 5V 3.1A power supply. That means they consume [max] 15.5W, or about 3/4 of a 20W nightlight. There simply is no extra power to spin anything.

It’s easy to find hard disks with their own power supplies that plug into the wall, but quite difficult to find optical drives with their own power supplies. So Pi’s are generally incapable of burning CD’s or DVD’s.)

Valerie Curren

Thanks CT. Great info!


There’s also the possibility of picking up a “garage sale beater”. Try not to get 32-bit.

Valerie Curren

How can you tell how many bits on a used device?


There are a few hints. If the motherboard is socketed for 4G or more of memory, for instance (32-bit processors can only theoretically access 4G, and it’s often slightly less). You can look up the device on the internet. If it still has all the showroom stickers, it might say what the processor is. If the Windows sticker showed it was running Windows 7 64-bit, it’s a 64-bit processor. You can get a feeling by era, and by provenance (e.g. off-lease business computers today are overwhelmingly 64-bit; a dusty computer in someone’s garage is less likely). If the card slots are pci-e, it could be 64-bit; if the card slots are old PCI, MCA, or old EISA, it’s more likely 32-bit (few notebooks have card slots).

Valerie Curren

Some translation needed “If the card slots are pci-e, it could be 64-bit; if the card slots are old PCI, MCA, or old EISA, it’s more likely 32-bit (few notebooks have card slots).”

pci-e = ?
old PCI = ?
MCA = ?
old EISA = ?
socketed = ?

Thanks for your great info AND patience!


Unfortunately, you have to see them….and it’s difficult to find them all together any more.

I’ll see if I can find something, but it will likely take a while. Maybe days.

You might try using wikipoo on each.

Valerie Curren

No biggie & definitely No Rush. I might need that tech stuff in smaller doses anyways when not on some type of “OCD” roll 😉


And things may soon get wildly better — from a review of Windows 11: “The biggest jump in Windows’ system requirements in 15 years leaves plenty of perfectly functional and not-particularly-old PCs with no fully supported upgrade path.”

The harder they push people into abandoning their old computers in order to run Windows 11, the more computers will end up running Linux.

Valerie Curren

Win Win (doze) 🙂


Heh, heh, heh….

Bell Labs moved on from UNIX to experimental operating systems that were increasingly strange and unsuccessful. One was “Plan 9”, which — yes — was named after the movie.

I want to focus on one small part of the wikipoo entry for Plan 9 — :

“As a benefit from the system’s design, most tasks in Plan 9 can be accomplished by using ls, cat, grep, cp and rm utilities in combination with the rc shell (the default Plan 9 shell).”

This is my hint to cover “cp” — which takes a file named one thing in one place and makes a copy named something someplace. If I am in a directory and have a subdirectory named “gork”, I can “cp gork/bleh prettyfile” and the file “bleh” in the directory “gork” will magically appear here as “prettyfile”. I can, then, “cp prettyfile moregork” and have a new “moregork” in this directory with the same contents as “prettyfile”.

You can probably guess that “rm” means that the target file is removed. In menus/mice/graphicsland, this usually means that the file is moved to a “trash” directory. In CLI, it is entirely possible to remove every file in the filesystem where painstaking, expensive forensic work is necessary to recover it. Typos are not good for “rm”.

I’ve now covered ls, cat, grep, cp, and rm for Linux.

Heh, heh, heh….

Valerie Curren

“cat, grep, cp, and rm”

cat = category
grep = ?
cp = copy
rm = remove

man = manual
ls = list
sl = steam locomotive 😉

so grep is what?
also what is apt? (I think of apartment)

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«cat» comes from «concatenate», that is, a tool for concatenating the contents of files.

«grep» is from an editor command, :g/(regular expression)/p. As was the custom on paper-teletypes and slow dial-up lines, the fewer letters needed the better, so g means global, as in the whole text file and not just the line we’re looking at; then the regular expression is a way of specifying what to look for and the p at the end means print what was found.

This turned out to be so useful outside the text editor, that that action was made into a system program, named grep. It has become like a verb, to grep something is to search for something in a file. It works well with other programs in the shell, to limit output to what is actually of interest.

«apt» takes the name from the package management system, APT, Advanced Package Tool. The software is organized in packages, and these may have bug fixes and updates done to them every now and then. Thus the apt update, to refresh the list of current packages and places to find them, and apt upgrade, to install new and presumably improved versions. This is one of several different such package systems, the Red Hat distros use something called rpm (Redhat Package Manager), but the Debian-family of distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Raspian/Raspios, Armbian, Devuan…) use APT.

Valerie Curren

concatenating = ???

distro = ???

Raspios = Raspberry Pi Operating System–Maybe?

I Very Much Appreciate your Explanations–thank you so much!

You guys make me think that if I (eventually) try to jump into Linux &/or Raspberry Pi I Might be able to Get It, at least somewhat!  😎    💃 

I really wanted a cartwheel emoji there or perhaps even a karate kick!


Concatenating things is to stack them together: the concatenation of strings “abc” and “def” would be the string “abcdef”. This is something that is useful enough that separate programs and library functions have been made for it.

The concept does exist in language outside computers as well.

A «distro» is short for «distribution». Linux has a very free and open licensing, so anyone and everyone may make a copy of the source code and set it up on their computing hardware of choice, and then distribute the resulting version of the operating system with their own tweaks and additions.

There is thus a large variety of Linux distributions — distros — available, some of which are derived or descended from others. So I mentioned the Debian family, of which Raspios is one of several.

And Raspios is the name of the version that the Raspberry Pi foundation puts out for their namesake single-board computers. They used to call it Raspbian, which reveals the Debian ancestry… but they decided to rename it a year or so ago.

Valerie Curren

Thanks! So Debian is another language?

People using Linux open source code & creating new OS based on it can’t sell that material right? If it starts free it stays free? Or is that too naïve?

Is there like a computer family tree graphic somewhere that shows the languages &/or systems & how they branch out from each other?

I may have answered my question above w/ these finds, though some need a key for a non-techie like me!
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Debian is a distro. If you look at your last graphic (helps to open in its own window and zoom in, hard) all the distros listed will be more-or-less like Debian. One of the major branches (probably the top one — can’t see) is Ubuntu, and one of the branches from Ubuntu is Mint. Mint is somewhat like Debian (its great grandpa), but very like Ubuntu (its dad).

You can get an even bigger version of that last graphic at — it’s 6M, so it may be useful to d/l it and look at it offline.

Looking at the complete graphic, you’ll note that Debian has generated an immense number of “child distros”, but that there are other distros (like Arch) that have far fewer. If you are comfortable with a Debian-inspired distro, you will likely be comfortable with most of them, but you’ll get some sand in the gears changing to a non-Debian distro.

Valerie Curren

Thx, CT…fascinating!


Although cat actually does from concatenate, I wasn’t going to go there, at least for a while. First, I was going to use fortune and cowsay to have some fun with files, while playing with cp, touch, cat, and nano.

Similarly, I haven’t gotten to discussing repos and distros — which I will do while installing browsers from ppas. Robert wasn’t super hep to browsing, so I’ll do it when it’s time.

RedHat is the paid version; Fedora (same company) is the free version — it currently uses dnf (they used to use yum). I believe that “sudo dnf install cowsay” would do what you’d expect it to.

Valerie Curren

I’m not this far along to really translate this to my version of (fake) normie speak 😉


sudo dnf install cowsay”

sudo – run this command as the super user (root)
dnf – command to package manager for Fedora OS
package – a bundle of software
OS – operating system, e.g., linux, debian, fedora
install – what you want the package manager to do
cowsay – the package to install

Valerie Curren

Thx GT!


IIRC, I’ve seen rsync used to make a copy of a directory while have the ability to set a different owner:group … seems useful.


Yeah, I’m pretty sure Robert will be confidently flyin’ solo before he gets to rsync. I’m just trying to get him aloft.


Whenever I haven’t messed with a Linux computer in a while, I’ll “warm it up” by doing “sudo apt update” followed by “sudo apt upgrade”. You can be pretty relaxed about this if packages you are interested in are unlikely to have changed in a while (like “cowsay” and “fortune”, which are 20 years old). If you will be using packages that may have had major changes in the last three days (like browsers), it is essential that you do this before your larger project.

Valerie Curren

My comment posted late on yesterday’s thread, so you hopefully see it here:

Just curious is “Is” in fact capital i or small case L, if the latter does “ls” stand for Linux system?

What might “sl” stand for & the L Question above still applies…

Knowing what abbreviations stand for is helpful to me. Years ago I Had to know that “html” stood for “Hyper Text Markup Language”. Not being a techie this didn’t do much for my existence but still eased my mind.

It’s like knowing
.com commercial
.edu educational institution
.gov government
.ca Canadian

Somewhere down the road I’m hoping to refer back to your RB tutorials & set up a Pi myself (maybe enlisting my techie son-in-law to assist). I’ll touch base with you first (don’t be holding your breath as it could be months or more) to try to do as much offline first with our conversation on another device…

Thanks for sharing all this info!


I answered on yesterday’s thread. If you feel it should be here, bring it forward.

Valerie Curren

OK, thanks 🙂

Valerie Curren

Yes, thank you! Blessings


«ls» is short for «list» that is, list files, so it is lowercase ell, lowercase s. Most such commands are all lowercase.

The way it works is that there are files in certain locations (directories) in the system, that corresponds to the programs to be run when something is typed on the command-line, in the program called «the shell». So when typing ls, the system looks in these locations for a file name ls, and if this file exists and is marked as executable, it will be run.

«sl» is apparently short for «steam locomotive», and is a humourous way of attacking the problem of mis-spelling the ls command as sl. Normally, you’d get some reply such as «sl: command not found» instead of the list of files in this case. With sl, you get an ASCII-picture of a steam locomotive instead. So it is in the same genre as the cowsay from a couple days ago.

Now, I was weaned on old hp-ux (Hewlett-Packard’s version of unix back in the days) and they were supposed to be business-like and serious, so there weren’t many of these small fun programs available back then. In fact they didn’t have any «section 6» in their manual.

To explain that one, there has always been online documentations via the man command (man for manual — typical of the consistent style of abbreviating the commands). The manual documents the various commands, system functions, file layouts and other miscellanea, organized in various sections. Section 1 is the commands such as ls or man available to all normal users, Section 8 are commands mostly to be used by root, which is what the system administrator is. Section 6 are the games and funny stuff like cowsay and sl, in these cases.

The other sections are useful for programmers and system administrators (which is a role that an owner/operator of a small computer such as a Raspberry Pi will occasionally have to enter). The command man man will show an overview of what these are.

Now sl and cowsay and other section 6 things may seem silly (the hp-ux people certainly thought so), but they do make the system slightly more friendly to newcomers as well as providing some welcome comic relief to oldies.

Valerie Curren

Thanks for this explanation, it helps me!

I thought Section 8 was what Clinger was always shooting for 😉

Valerie Curren

timely 🙂
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When you get to the point of playing with one, let’s discuss what you want and I’ll try laying things out to get you there. Robert wanted to “get” Linux, to “speak its language”, so we’re going that route…..and I’m actually attempting to maintain a certain amount of focus while adapting to changing circumstances.

Valerie Curren

Thanks CT. It’ll probably be a while, possibly after my son’s wedding next summer, we’ll see 🙂


If you look at the timelines, the development of UNIX has a major overlay to the spread of the early versions of Dungeons and Dragons. There are many little remnants in UNIX (and C) that echo this.

In C, UNIX’s development language, you can glom up a bunch of memory in one form and “CAST” it into a different form. It’s why you don’t do systems programming in Fortran. C is a magic razor-blade of a language, that can go “rule, rule, rule, rule, rule, fuck the rules, rule, rule, rule, rule” and still make sense.

Further, one frequently hears about “invocations” in UNIX, where someone painstakingly builds up an utterance through repeated examinations of man pages (and other “help”). There’s nothing blasphemous in such constructions besides the name — the commands and constructs that build such constructs are part of the programs available for execution in the filesystem.

Valerie Curren

I’ve Never had Any type of classes on computing, though took a couple of freebies at the local library on how to use some word processing systems, iirc. Back when I worked at the church an assistant pastor “taught” me some very basic html stuff so I could upload certain material to the church’s website. I had to take notes & refer to them step-by-step whenever that task was needed…

My husband took BASIC, FORTRAN, & COBOL in college, back when he was an electrical engineering major. He ended up going into electronics technology instead & worked directly with building certain components & troubleshooting to the component level w/ an O-scope for a small electronics tech company that even had some small military contracts. All that is like 30 years ago & stuff now is like Light Years away.

When you say “C” I think of when I look at a Windows file directory & the hard drive (?) is always called “C”, & I have No idea why. I assume you’re referencing some type of computer language…

Sorry for my Extreme Ignorance in these things. I need a Computing for Dummies book (before I really dig into the remainder of Steve’s Physics for more advanced “dummies” posts!) or at least a cheat sheet to augment the few keyboard shortcuts I’ve memorized like:

ctrl F for Find on Page
ctrl C for Copy
ctrl V for Paste
ctrl alt delete for Escape, or to see some type of file manager (I think)
ctrl alt prnt scrn for a save image of what’s appearing at the moment in my view (I think)

I wish there was even a basic cheat sheet for the F# buttons at the top of the keyboard for sometimes I accidentally bump one & have to scramble in my mental darnkess 😉 to undo my idiocy, wait that remains, my fumbling!


Yes, C is the name of the programming language, and it is the language that the Unix (and later Linux) operating system code is written in.

The drive letters on Windows machines comes originally from an operating system called CP/M, back in the early 1980s. This was originally run on Intel 8080 and similar 8-bit processors. It had the convention that each of the disk units, which were 8-inch floppy disks, were identified as A: B: etc. When IBM-PCs started using PC-DOS (and MS-DOS) they kept this scheme: old PCs used letters A: and B: for the removable, floppy, drives, and C: was typically the first non-removeable hard drive. Further drives got the letters D:, E: and so on. This scheme has remained in MS-Windows to this day, that disk partitions (since there can be two or more of these on a single physical unit) are identified with a letter.

Nothing to do with the name of the C programming language, whose name came from the grand-parent language BCPL, as a subset of that name. On the other hand, MS-Windows is also for the most part implemented in C — it is a very useful language for implementing operating systems.

Valerie Curren

Is Linux named for the Linus who created it but basing it (mostly?) on Unix?

BCPL = Basic Computer Programming Language? maybe

DOS = ?

PC = Personal Computer

MS = Micro Soft (or perhaps Minister of Satan)?

I remember floppy disks but thought they were more like 5 or 6 inches & then the 3 or 4 inch hard disks…we have some of both somewhere.

I worked in a hospital setting w/ CRT (cathode ray tube) computers that required us to use the wire attached light pen to access. At my college we had to use some type of punch card system (these cards were like 3 X 8 inches manila cardstock) to input our exercise data for TPTB to see if we were “complying” on aerobic points. Some indexes in that college library were printed on that alternating white & light green lined computer paper w/ the punch holes on either side. We mostly had to use card catalogs to find stuff.

I paid someone to type up my senior paper on a computer using word processing, which I never had access to for the entirety of my “formal” education. Before heading off to college my parents bought me a used electric typewriter, had to return the carriage by hand, & it was missing the “E” key (most used letter of the English language) so had to handwrite in Every E & use white out, arrows, & handwritten corrections for the final proofreading because re-typing many pages was too time-consuming. Some of those essays looked like crap, but the contents still got decent grades, thankfully.

I harken back to those grad school days when money from parents exactly paid my rent (if I had a roommate) & I had to cover all other costs by working for basically minimum wage in the upper $3 to lower $4/hour range while being a full time student. I slept on a sleeping bag on the floor after one roommate moved back east & took most of our trash picked furniture w/ her, I was OK w/ this. I was sitting on that sleeping bag on the floor & typing papers for my master’s degree w/ that wonky typewriter. There were times I’d scrape pennies together to get enough money to put 50 cents in the washing machine or dryer. I’d have less than $10 to tide me over until my next paycheck…

Living through those experiences & the season of waiting for my son’s brain tumor & liver biopsy & later liver transplant help me cope w/ some of the current insanity. God saw us through some very challenging times & He promised to Never leave us or forsake us so He’ll get us through whatever stuff is still incoming!


Ah the days of being a student … using money on fancy furniture was never a priority. Electronics, however… !

It would make sense that «Linux» is from «Linus’ Unix», the definitely Unix-like kernel that Linus Torvalds developed on his 386, 30 years ago.

BCPL, Basic Combined Programming Language, was the systems language of Multics. A severely cut-down subset of this called B (as in just the little part of BCPL) was used with the earliest versions of Unix. Then B was improved upon and the result became the C programming language.

DOS is Disk Operating System, most commonly associated with the IBM PC computers. Which itself was not too far off a reference implementation of an 8088 system as detailed in Intel’s databooks, and as it was pretty well-documented at the time, it turned out to be easy to design and implement workalikes. And even the originals were popular with the heavy weight of the IBM company name behind them, signifying that these were no mere toys or home computers designed for playing games.

Games were considered somewhat frivolous and non-business-like, compare the missing section 6 of hp-ux that I mentioned here elsewhere. So the IBM (International Business Machines) PC lived up to expectations set up by the name of its maker. And if you couldn’t afford the original, there were less expensive compatible clones — after all, 8088s and 74LS-series TTL chips and suchlike were available to everyone and the Intel data books showed how to hook things up and just make sure all the IO addresses and those kinds of details were the same as in IBMs hardware and off you go…

Microsoft (MS, yes) meanwhile, didn’t mind selling software for these, so there were MS-DOS which was the non-IBM version of their PC-DOS available. Then other software companies appeared with all kinds of business and productivity software, and there were assemblers, compilers, such as Borland with their utilities such as Sidekick, and Turbo Pascal programming language; there was Wordstar that had ported their software from the CP/M (Control Program for Microcomputer) days, Wordperfect. Lotus 1-2-3. Microsoft had something called Multiplan, as well as assemblers, C and even Fortran compilers.

Valerie Curren

IO = ?

ported = transported?

assembler = ?

compiler = ?

Thanks for these details. It’s a bit like reading about the Family History of computing! I’m a sucker for genealogy, for people, horses, & now apparently computers!

It seems like someone here or somewhere implied that Bill Gates (of Hell) was gifted MS, perhaps from the Corso-type “alien tech” files…or was that Farcebook & Zuck? I thought Gates stole or copied something to make his fortune, that he was Not the genius behind things that he’s been portrayed as being…beyond definitions here but remain curious & teachable.


«IO» is an abbreviation for input/output. These refer to the parts of the computer hardware where data is moved into or out of the computer’s central areas. The operating system has subprograms, so-called drivers, that takes care of all the details in moving information in from or out to some particular device.

Porting refers to taking some previously made software, such as the Linux kernel, and modifying it to work on a new and different machine, with different hardware details.

The «language» that the processor works with is very elemental — a lot of the time it is just a matter of moving or copying bit-patterns from one place to another, or comparing two bit-patterns to see if they are equal or not. A very limited number of registers are used to hold intermediate values or addresses indicating where in memory something is to be read or written.

All of this are sets of bits, a mass of 0s and 1s in very particular and specific order, and it gets exceedingly tedious very fast, so a lot of the boring details can be and are automated. To this end, there are higher-level languages such as C or Fortran or whatever (as you see in the diagrams, there are plenty to choose from) which can be written and read by humans. This human-readable code is called source code.

Then there are programs that reads this, and translates it into a form that the machine can use. These programs are known as compilers. Compilers operate on source files, and for each source file it generates an intermediate object file.

Assemblers also translate source to object files, but the input to these is a readable version of machine code, rather than a higher-level language. Assembly is seldom used compared to high-level language.

For most non-trivial programs there will be several of these source and object files, and they have all to be combined with each other and with the operating system’s libraries, in a second step called linking. The output from the linker, which is another program, is the executable file, which can then be run.

Valerie Curren

IO close cousin of Garbage In Garbage Out…

Kernel = ?

Machine Code is what Programmers input to make computers work, perhaps?

Again I really appreciate your explanations–Thx!

Valerie Curren

Here are some that might work!
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& to “transform yourself into a tech pro” LOL
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Valerie Curren

That blue graphic above doesn’t list

ctrl Q
ctrl T
ctrl W


ctrl F1
ctrl F3
ctrl F5
ctrl F7-F12

I wonder if Any of those actually have functions but I’m not going to mess w/ my system to try those other options out experimentally…

Valerie Curren

whoops the graphic above the blue circle gives some of that info:

ctrl T = new tab
ctrl W = close tab

if only we knew what ctrl Q means for it’s definitely NOT control Q!

Valerie Curren

the development of UNIX has a major overlay to the spread of the early versions of Dungeons and Dragons”

My son-in-law is into D & D & was only Every interested in Anything Q-Tree when he looked over my shoulder as I read along w/ one of your tutorials, iirc.

More red pills incoming, one could hope!


PayPal is now putting a six month hold (funds availability date) on payments to our friends in India. I’m awaiting developments. May have to go with a different payment method.

PayPal rot.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Is this from your experience, or do you have a link?

This could be a real stimulus to get GabPay up and running!


Personal experience. Was informed that the same thing happened with another persons order with PayPal payment.


Then it’s be down to paying with BitCoin…


Home run, DePat!

Thank you!


Another is going down:


A bit more context:

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Whoa. Something is going on.

Valerie Curren

This reminds me of that Containment show I was discussing the other day (on Netflix until late Oct). Other items discussed in the last several episodes:

Gain of Function Research, illegality & definitions
CDC doing secret bioweapons research & developing viruses & hopefully vaccines
Payoffs & deletion of info & suppression of communications
Buying people at multiple levels to keep crimes under wraps
CDC accidental lab leak causing the deadly outbreak, & massive coverup
Cytokine storm
Antifa Symbol superimposed over the red half circle w/ wider red slash

All that was in that 2016 show & more…

I don’t think that image above will show but the one on containment is like the middle A in a black circle superimposed where the crosspiece of the A is also a red slash extending beyond the boundaries of the circle & half the circle is filled in w/ red.

In the scene where that Antifa/Anarchist A appeared you see a hand w/ black spray-paint painting the A symbol over the half red circle w/ extended red slash (that appeared to indicate something about the quarantine & the voice over when that red symbol was first shown was saying it was likened to the post-Katrina symbols on houses that had already been searched)…

If that show was Not predictive programming it was a very conveniently timed story.
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The above symbol comes from a site claiming “Antifa: Satanic anarchy and revolution” very telling!
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Imagine the black A above superimposed over the red symbol on the mask…

This was the Cordon Sanitaire in the midst of Atlanta where basically everyone inside was abandoned to potential death to keep the virus from spreading…
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The series ended without resolving the scenarios, people were left to their own devices within the quarantine zone. Some “authorities” were on the hot seat when video surfaced of their direct heartlessness….


deliberate “crisis”

global scarcity

global mass starvation

regional power grid failures

and.. more Fauci biowarfare (podcast)

this is not a drill.

it’s an extermination.

 👉  International Shipping Group Issues RED ALERT Letter Warning of GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN COLLAPSE …Power Grid Failures, Widespread Famine and Economic Ruin Are Right Around the Corner

article link…


The International Chamber of Shipping (ICS) has issued a RED ALERT warning of “global transport system collapse”.

a “crew change crisis” where 400, 000 seafarers were unable to leave their ships, working for 18 months beyond initial contracts.

more about this, at the link.


2 videos…

one by iAllegedly on the shipping bottleneck being engineered

and the Situational Update podcast.


Valerie Curren

I think it was KBK sharing info from his merchant marine son yesterday that seems to support at least some of this…


“a “crew change crisis” where 400, 000 seafarers were unable to leave their ships, working for 18 months beyond initial contracts.”


They must be making a lot of overtime pay.

Why don’t they charter helicopter transport to shore, wherever they are, and then take a plane home, wherever that is?

Why doesn’t a replacement crew reverse that process?

I just Googled “It’s Not Rocket Science Digest” and it was right there on the home page…


“The International Chamber of Shipping (ICS) has issued a RED ALERT warning of “global transport system collapse”.


I didn’t realize the ICS even had a ‘red alert’…

Kudos to the management team at ICS to have the foresight to anticipate a “global transport system collapse” and create the ‘red alert’ button for just such an occasion.

But think about the stress on the guy (or girl), whoever’s job it is to push the ‘red alert’ button, just sitting there in an office cubicle, day after day, after day.

Month after month.

Year after year.

Just staring at the flashing ‘red alert’ button, like a Jeopardy contestant, hovering his hand above the buzzer, waiting for the day when the signal comes that there’s a global transport system collapse.

I mean, what are the chances that it would ever finally happen?

And yet they have to be ready at a moment’s notice.

The catharsis, to finally be able to hit that ‘red alert’ button, the relief must be overwhelming… 👍

Valerie Curren

For some reason Hildabeast’s red reset button fiasco comes to mind!


As it should!

Note that this “buzzword” is now part of the Enemy’s lexicon (“The Great Reset”) – as are some of the terms [k]Louse Schlob has been promoting, like “sustainable” and “stakeholder”.

Changing the language is one of the PRIMARY tools of the CB, for it changes ones *thinking* toward their goal.

When we use THEIR terms to express OUR thinking, we lose an important battle.


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Mykola Kaftan, contemporary Ukraine.

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Valerie Curren

I went looking for a version of Psalm 130 set to music to share & found this beautiful video. The Holy Spirit really falls here & God is glorified! What a glimpse of the Bride of Christ–enjoy!

Valerie Curren

Here is the song I was searching for, beautiful!

Valerie Curren

God gave me a song from a portion of Psalm 130 years ago, not as beautiful as the JMT version but personally meaningful to me. God is so good & even the crumbs that fall from the Master’s table are incredibly life sustaining. His Word will not return void!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



Love Talbot

Valerie Curren

Amen he is such a blessing!


Please share with all of our new GAB users:

Welcome to GAB.
It’s a little different here, and you’ll be just fine.
But you’re gonna need this.
Red Pill.
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Valerie Curren

That’s awesome!!!




Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, that’s hilarious!


This Christopher Rufo thread is chilling. 

Echoes FBI Director Wray’s testimony in Congress.

It’s the putrid Øbastard Communist-Islamonazi Agenda that Pelosi proudly touted on display.


“BREAKING: Attorney General Merrick Garland has instructed the FBI to mobilize against parents who oppose critical race theory in public schools, citing “threats.” 

The letter follows the National School Board Association’s request to classify protests as “domestic terrorism.”

Especially this part:

“The Biden administration is rapidly repurposing federal law enforcement to target political opposition. 

They want to reclassify dissent as “disinformation” and “domestic terrorism,” justifying an unprecedented intervention, both directly and in partnership with tech companies.”


Is not the school board elected? Why do they think they can lord over the people who pay them who elected them?
Elected officials behave like communist tyrants they need to be checked and kicked out of their position.


Most likely you’ll have seen this previously, but I had not so just in case you missed it too.
One has to be a very quick reader to catch all the subtitles.
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Companies are starting to require all employment candidates be vaccinated as a hiring condition. HR pages have statements posted…

Additionally, successful applicants for this position must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of employment.

So the unvaccinated will be fired and not be able to be rehired.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Survivor. The Really Big Show.”

But seriously, the choice between being a Nazi and not being one is rough.

Bidenazis will have the rest of their lives to face what they did.


They do not know it but their children grandchildren will be caught up in the mess and do not escape the consequences.


I can see lawsuits re: discrimination, medical privacy, etc.

Valerie Curren

& when the “vaccinated” die off or are severely incapacitated the “great unwashed masses” (unvaxed) will have to ride in to save the day!

Deplorable Patriot

And that’s the unfortunate truth that some of us refuse to voice.


The “Dark Winter” phrase has been uttered more than once.

I think it’s one of the reasons that the CB is moving so quickly; they must solidify their grip before too many (“vaxxed”) people succumb to the otherwise-survivable infections / diseases of the impending cold/flu season.

The only thing that will prevent the MASSIVE backlash is totalitarian control (suppress ALL real news) … and their time is running very SHORT.

Valerie Curren

Given that story about Detroit TV channel WXYZ’s Facebook page requesting horror stories about unvaxed & getting 180,000 stories about Vaxed horrors & then suppressing that info it’s possible that there is no way to stop what is coming, aka massive backlash!





Valerie Curren



Can they sue the company if they have adverse reactions to the jab?

Valerie Curren

& perhaps sue the government who released Big Pharma from All liability!


I rather have them sue companies who have become puppets of the democrats and big pharma.

Valerie Curren

AND logic may apply here 😉


IMO, Wolf’s coinage of “AND” logic – outpacing “OR” logic – is one of the greatest of his insights into TRUTH.

“OR” is a ***negation*** of “AND”.

And we want – and need – the full monty, as it were.

Beware false dichotomies!

TY Valerie!

And TY WOLF!!!

Valerie Curren

Most excellent insight ES!


Only when one plays the game (law) right.

NEVER “refuse”!

Instead, put everything in writing, require the same of HR / of the employer, and use (in writing, once again) the questions posted down-thread by DePat (07:56am), among others posted in addition.

Doing THIS *does” incur liability for the company, whether pursued as a single individual (tough / costly) or as a part of a group / class-action (easier / costs spread out).

April 9, 2018 (#1105)


I hope people hold companies liable.


In addition, I saw somewhere that an Insurance company was charging an employee ~$200/month if their *spouses* are not vaxxed.

The Next Step: Not only do you have to be vaxxed, but anyone you know also must be vaxxed or *you* will suffer.



IIRC, Louisiana State will charge employees $100 (dunno pay period, monthly) if their spouses are not injected.


My SIL just came up against this in a NY company. They wanted to interview him but the caveat was he had to be FULLY vaxxed to get on campus.

Hard pass.


Great thread post, DePat!
 😀  👍 
Thank you! 💗 



Here we go.

They’ve weaponized the DOJ against us.


While spirited debate about policy matters is protected under our Constitution, that protection does not extend to threats of violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views.

Hmm…”efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views.”

That is exactly what they are doing!

Oh, but it’s okay when they do it.


garland is commie schmuck.

F#@* Garland


He would have been a disaster on SCOTUS.


eric holder 2


Eric Holer who? … I thought this being’s name was … Pencil ✏️ …

.. or … POS … 🤫 …. 😜


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Better get our thermal underwear and woolens out of the mothballs.

Here are signs that this winter may be a doozy:

A gray wolf was just seen near L.A., the southernmost California sighting in a century –
Delingpole: Global Warming Shock. Antarctica Posts Coldest Winter Since Records Began –
h/t – Bad Blue

Valerie Curren

Weren’t you the one sharing stuff about the solar minimum cycle, iirc? or perhaps Gail Combs. Global Warming lies to get people to be entirely unprepared for cooling cycles!


No – I haven’t – it was likely Gail. She hangs with the climate sanity folks.

Valerie Curren

Well both of you “G” ladies are very welcome founts of info & wisdom, so Thanks for sharing these!!!


Says Miss Valerie – a super researcher, herself.

Valerie Curren

Um, blush, thanks, but not entirely. I get my moments though! 😉


I posted a little about the solar cycles and have been watching news about them over the past year. I think it was Gail who posted in more detail. Yes, people are unprepared. The media does not inform, just propagandize.

Modern Grand Solar Minimum will lead to terrestrial cooling

Valerie Curren

Thanks TT!!!




The bad old days. Long, hard winters made for scarcity of food for the wolves.

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Pastor arrested by ‘Gestapo’ police on airport tarmac issues warning to Americans: Soviet-style tyranny is ‘coming for you’ if you don’t rise up




I grew up behind the Iron Curtain under the boots of the Soviets…What they
are doing today is identical to what I remember growing up.

Pastor Pawlowski


(this excelerating, ongoing, intensifying NWO global terror is starting to effect my appetite and ability to sleep soundly….it seems unstoppable.)

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Valerie Curren

(this excelerating, ongoing, intensifying NWO global terror is starting to effect my appetite and ability to sleep soundly….it seems unstoppable.)”

Please consider taking a break to regroup. If a Believer, spending time in worship & prayer can work wonders.

Also, laughter is the best medicine…so Live, Laugh, & Love!

God Bless YOU!


you’re right.

as a Believer, I really should be very excited, actually….have to really keep the mind on HIM…because…

one of these days…or nights...

 💞 keep the lamp burning, be ready. 🙏 

they are trying to wear out the patience of the saints (believers)…trying to steal our Joy and discourage us to give up.

stay the course !


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Valerie Curren

Amen Smiley.


Psalm 91  💞 
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Valerie Curren

Amen Perfect love casts out fear!


One of the most positive signs that they are desperate is the ATTEMPT to mark MOMS as domestic terrorists.

This is so profoundly stupid that I had to laugh.

All politics is local.

We need to keep the pressure up at school board meetings, county and city meetings, etc.

It is having a huge effect.


Many people have no clue. I know I see it I hear it they think I lost my mind and am brainwashed. I wish I was but it is reality.


it is astounding how many otherwise alert, intelligent people are completely oblivious to what’s actually going on regarding the global agenda….

while also totally duped by the covid jab fraud.

I can send links pointing to the facts…but they just do not want to hear it.

were they not paying attention during Modern History class ?

how can anyone with even half a brain miss the blatant similarities ?

maybe it’s easier to sleep at night, being willfully ignorant.

Last edited 2 years ago by smiley2