“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This WE KNOW THEY’RE LYING WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
"That was the nugget of information that got everything going."
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
AND WHAT DO WE TELL OUR LOYAL VSGPOTUS?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION of RULE OF LAW!!!
That is why there MUST BE the DRAINING of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
I want to thank ForGodandCountry for cluing me into the Wittes-Baker-Brookings rendezvous – the first real indication that the SHADOW OF THE DESCENDING MOAB is darkening the LAWFARE BLOG.
John Brennan only followed twenty-some accounts on Twitter, and LawFareBlog was one of them – the only thing even remotely like a blog. Every other account was an Obama player or some form of FAKE NEWS. Meaning Wittes was a PLAYER.
Comey seemed to be getting his advice from there.
The blog’s own self-description was DECEPTIVE and indicated FOREIGN TARGETS – a seemingly purposeful evasion of stating the very OBVIOUS domestic uses
What was happening to TRUMP seemed much MORE like “lawfare” than the blog’s own dubious definition
When local federal heat of some kind was trying to FRAME ME, it sure felt like “lawfare”
Just listen to Baker. OH, THIS PERP IS GOOD FOR A LOT. Way more than I thought. Just listen to the sleazebag. I figured he was a CANKLEBOT – that he was the GATEKEEPER who made sure nothing bad ever advanced against the interests of CANKLES. Now I’m sure of it.
This TWO PROBE TUEDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
AND THESE FIVE WORDS FOR OUR LOYAL VSGPOTUS…..
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE the DRAINING of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
REMEMBER….
Russiagate is now MUHRUSSIAGATE.
This guy went after FBI corruption & ties to mob in Boston. Stepped in to help clear 4 innocent men convicted of murder. Whitey Bulger case. Hooray.
This SEVEN DAYS IN MAY TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Gonna be frank with people.
I literally thanked G_d today for President Trump.
I also THANKED G_D for our deliverance from evil in general, at the level of the universe itself. I sounded like I was straight out of the Old Testament! Psalms of thanks and gratefulness! JOY at our deliverance from evil!
I was thinking about just how CUNNING our adversaries have been – how much they’ve FOOLED AMERICA for the last century – and I just had to THANK GOD for our President, and for the PROTECTION of God. Despite all the trickery, we’re still hanging on to our freedoms, and we’re still not suffering like we COULD BE SUFFERING, at the hands of TYRANTS.
So take a moment and SAY THANKS and PRAY!
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
The LAST ONE always gets me! *wink*
NOW….
THREE THINGS TONIGHT:
1.
I’m working on a great new post that will raise a lot of concern and likely stir up a hornet’s nest. It really needs to get done, too. You’ll see why.
2.
Been having some computer issues – hopefully they will be gone soon.
3.
Based on this new post, it looks like the other side is going all out with the deceptions. Even if we keep the White House, this will not be easy sledding. They are doing everything they can at the state and local levels to undermine President Trump – even in the RED districts. In fact, THAT is where they are trying to STEAL THE MONEY NOW.
This TWO DAYS IN MAY TUESDAY open thread (OK, it’s really THURSDAY, but MUH SYMMETRY) is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
OUR FIVE WORDS TO HIM:
WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
NOW….
THREE THINGS TONIGHT:
1.
Although I now have FOUR NIGHTS a week covered by authors (other than myself) who want to do Daily Threads, as follows, I am still looking for more.
Monday – Wheatietoo
Tuesday – Wolf Moon
Wednesday – Wolf Moon
Thursday – Wolf Moon
Friday – ForGodandCountry
Saturday – Wheatietoo
Sunday – ThinkThinkThink
If you think you would like to take one of the remaining “Wolf” days (T, W. Th, meaning you post the night before at midnight), please let me know. I am encouraged by the great reception that our Daily Thread authors are getting, and would love to add one or two new Daily Thread authors to take maximum advantage of this effect.
You need to be US-based, operating from a secure home computer (not on a roaming laptop or mobile device), and otherwise pass somewhat rougher vetting than even Wolf’s Extreme Vetting which posters normally pass. Some upstanding interested people in deep blue zones may simply be put on hold until enough of the swamp is IN JAIL, at which point American security will automatically tighten.
The reasons I am now being a bit more cautious about (a) location of authors, and (b) making sure that this place could run smoothly if I were, say, indisposed due to some kind of LAWFARE plot, has to do with both items 2 and 3. I believe that my strongest earlier suspicions about DOJ and FBI under Rosenstein are now confirmed. More on that below.
So if you’re interested, please let me know.
2.
There is an article in Human Events about AG Barr that your really need to read. HOWEVER, WordPress goes NUTS if the URL “embeds”, so here is a masked link:
I will also embed the URL at the END of this post, where it can’t mess anything up.
This article explains my theory on Barr, Mueller and Rosenstein in LEGAL terms.
To ME, it confirms that Rosey is a black hat who has more successfully than anybody masked himself. He was willing to let OTHERS decide Trump’s fate, once he created the corrupt Mueller process. This is how they created plausible deniability of malicious intent. Rosey threw the magic potato that turned into a grenade and said “That’s OK, just follow the process for throwing potatoes and all will be well. See? I agree with Bill Barr now that he’s my boss.”
It’s LAWFARE. I can SEE IT. Others did, too, and that is why they booted Sessions to get somebody to END THE LAWFARE based on BAD LAW (the subsection in question, which will eventually go to SCOTUS, and which is the basis of Democrat obstruction traps).
I believe that the NEED to bring in Barr is related to the “change” in “Trust Sessions” – that there was a need to stop “trusting” him and replace him. Basically, a CHANGE in the plan. In my opinion, people RIGHTLY stopped trusting Rosey, but they needed to remove SESSIONS to get past Rosey the Rook, who had castled with King Robert of Mueller.
Whatever. Water under the bridge, but WE were pawns in it. WE had to go, so that Trump supporters who liked Sessions would get out of the way of FALLING SESSIONS, who pretty much fell on his sword.
3.
The Democrats are extremely serious about 2020. I am seeing plot investments on a scale which DWARFS anything I have seen before.
I believe that the Democrats and black hats have LOST access to NSA data on me, and that this explains why there has been a relatively large degree of calm in my life. HOWEVER, I have now discovered how they intend to remedy that situation, and it’s fairly ingenious. Independent discovery of the same by the White Hats will validate.
As part of a new, long-term theme like the “VLWC” (Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy) series, I’m going to help people see long-term commie moves with a “Strategery” series. I love stealing this word, because the people in the Bush camp who adopted it as their version of “Deplorables” clearly had little understanding of the long-term strategy of the communists who manipulated them so readily.
Our “strategery” will put theirs to shame. And to think THEY opposed Trump. Ridiculous.
AND logic.
LONG-TERM thinking.
UNCERTAINTY as a way of life.
These things will slowly bring us into levels of understanding that makes the either/or, short-term-thinking, implication-as-fake-certainty FAKE NEWS absolutely useless. I repeat these ideas differently.
Life is not either/or, and getting you to think that way is a TRICK.
Life is not short-term. Getting you to see and respond to the short-term, by long-term thinkers, is a TRICK.
Life is uncertain. Getting you to NEED certainty when there is no certainty, is a TRICK.
We begin today’s lesson with a Q drop from yesterday.
Much of the Q movement is going to concentrate on what I regard as the chump change of this drop – the odd capitalization of every word, and the splitting of “household” into HouseHold. Trust me – our buddy Q has some awesome messages in there for the SB2 types. However, that is THEIR bag, not ours.
Happy hunting, cryptogram solvers.
WE, in contrast, are going to get all Bezmenov on this one.
Several parts of the article are highly relevant:
The subtitle:
Hannigan oversaw a more open approach at GCHQ after the Snowden revelations exposed mass surveillance by the agency
His sudden resignation – he informed staff just hours before making this decision public – prompted speculation that it might be related to British concerns over shared intelligence with the US in the wake of Donald Trump becoming president.
The key point here is that SNOWDEN had effects on GCHQ. ONE of those effects that led to MANY OTHERS was insertion of THIS GUY HANNIGAN.
Now – if you’re following along with Q, then you know Snowden was a CLOWN OP that had a strong intention to damage NSA. But THAT is not necessarily the only reason. And to think about WHY Snowden was manipulated into doing what he did, remember that commies will try to SOW ONCE and REAP MANY TIMES. See how the suppression of AND logic keeps us dumb? THEY think multiple outcomes. WE chase our tails on the idea of WHICH outcome.
We need to GET OVER the idea that SNOWDEN did what he did for ONE REASON.
We also need to GET OVER the idea that SNOWDEN was a short-term yield. AND we need to get over the idea that we know ALL of the reasons they did the Snowden operation.
Are you with me? Let’s move on.
Remember – this guy CAME IN and LEFT on controversy. Controversy is USEFUL to them.
Note that both the INSERTION and REMOVAL of this guy are a PATTERN of POKE and RESPONSE due to REVELATION and MEDIA MANIPULATION. The other side uses this all the time. This is an extremely important reason why FAKE NEWS works. Fake News helps to control both the REVELATION and the MANIPULATION.
SIDEBAR:
Khashoggi was a perfect example. CIA commies and their DNC media CREATED and then “revealed” a fake American, a fake journalist, and in many ways a fake victim, who had been manipulated into his own MURDER – one that they controlled in several hidden ways – and could then use primary blame-casting of the set-up Saudis to manipulate American foreign policy.
The problem with Khashoggi was that the PUBLIC and REAL JOURNALISM were able to reveal enough hidden truth that the whole operation’s SKETCHY NATURE became evident. It was clearly a MANIPULATION – and United States foreign policy does NOT deserve to change because of communist manipulations – even if they are OUR COMMUNISTS.
Back to Hannigan – particularly his INSERTION.
First of all, who is he?
Hannigan’s background was not initially in intelligence. Born in Gloucester in 1965 and brought up in Yorkshire, he had been a high-flying civil servant at the Northern Ireland Office, where he was head of communications and later political director. He was involved in the peace process, credited[note media manipulation – W] with coming up with the idea for a diamond-shaped table[rolling eyes hard -W] in order to get over objections by the opposing sides about seating arrangements.
He transferred to London where he became involved in a series of intelligence jobs, including defence and liaison with the US, before going on to GCHQ, where he worked for six months as part of the handover before taking control.
Guardian article
If this looks a lot like a typical unqualified or deceptively qualified OBAMA APPOINTEE, then yeah, you’re seeing it, too. This guy had no business being in charge of GCHQ. And yet he was. FUNNY, THAT.
FAKE REFORM is a very big thing with communists and OUR intelligence agencies.
So – let’s look at their FAKE REFORM at GCHQ. What did the commies REALLY DO?
At the time, GCHQ, in spite of many of its secrets spilled by Snowden, remained the most secretive of the three intelligence agencies: the others being MI6 and MI5. But Hannigan expanded the press team, invited more journalists to visit GCHQ and encouraged a stream of news stories aimed at bringing the agency into the public eye. [as if any of this is going to actually solve any problems. -W]
In his first week in office, he created controversy with a column published in the Financial Times accusing US technology companies of becoming “the command and control networks of choice” for terrorists.
In March last year, he softened his criticism in a speech to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, calling for a new relationship between the intelligence agencies and the tech companies, part of a campaign to try to secure the help of the companies in providing access to supposedly encrypted messages.
Guardian article
I could go on forever about this. Hannigan BEHAVED in the classic ways of a CLINTON or OBAMA appointee. Once you see that “saboteur” model in operation, you never forget it.
invites in reporters and other “low-grade spies” – this is extremely reminiscent of Hazel O’Leary in Energy. The left LOVES to get a diversity-based or other unqualified leftoid in at the top, who leverages a media-driven moral panic (“OH NOES! WE NEED OPEN!”) or moral manic (“OH, JOY, WE ARE ALL OPEN NOW!”) to WEAKEN security
immediately uses JOURNALISM to call for tech censorship using terrorism foil
immediately blame-casts to US tech companies on terror (which problem, ironically, NSA is watching), while US tech companies are simultaneously media-cast as VICTIMS of spying by the Snowden op, in order to WEAKEN the NSA. What are the commies trying to do here? What communists always try to do. Get a government function out of government, to some place they control. What the commies wanted to do was SHIFT the burden of fighting terror (which they control) from the NSA to SJWs in tech companies. (As if that would work!) Funny that those SJWs would censor the political enemies of the left. Such a coincidence.
note that Hannigan’s timeline MATCHES Obama’s post-Obamacare roll-out failure-excused calls for partnership with tech, that quickly turned into tech hiring of SJWs and massive censorship
BIG POINT – SNOWDEN softened up the tech companies to censorship pitch
So – are you beginning to see why they don’t want a serious inquiry of this Hannigan guy? GET HIM OUT while the getting is good. Just like the lady (NOT Lois Lerner) who was responsible for the IRS scandal. Just like Eric Holder getting out of Dodge.
Resignation or job-shifting before inquiry is STRAIGHT out of the Obama manual. They needed this Hannigan guy GONE pronto, as soon as Trump was elected.
And what, finally, was the BIGGEST point?
SNOWDEN LED TO INSERTION OF SOMEBODY AT GCHQ WHO WOULD PLAY BALL WITH OBAMA IN 2016, TO ELECT HILLARY CLINTON.
What are our big learning points here?
Snowden was a big op with MANY OUTCOMES (AND logic), had MANY BIG LATE EFFECTS (long-term thinking), and likely will have MANY MORE that we have not yet recognized (uncertainty).
Strategery. The commies may have it. But so do we.
Forget about Russia. It all started in The Ukraine. Paul Manafort worked for the Party of Regions and their candidate, Yanukovych, who won. The other side was Timoshenko, Rick Davis (Manafort’s old partner), McCain, CIA, State Dept, DOJ, George Soros, and a new player, Hunter Biden.
Follow the bouncing ball, with me, for a Reader’s Digest version of the fake Russia Hoax, and very real, horrifically damaging, Ukrainian interference.
The Ukraine Crisis Media Center was founded by Soros in March 2014. This organization is the Ukraine’s version of Media Matters.
Serhiy Leshchenko was a Ukraine Member of Parliament.
NABU, The Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Bureau is formed and the Exec director is Artem Sytnyk.
Another NGO was founded by Soros called the AntAC (Anti-Corruption Action Centre). They received 1.7 million in funding, about 1 million from USA Depts of State and DOJ, and 290K from Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation. THIS is the org that the Obama Admin worked through.
NABU and the Obama government were working closely with Soros NGO Anti-Corruption Action Centre (AntAC) in Ukraine, as John Solomon reports on The Hill. When Ukrainian prosecutors investigated AntAC over a missing $4.4 million in U.S. funding, they were told to stand down by Obama officials. —- this is the missing money for Joe Biden’s son. Biden’s son was coordinating activity in The Ukraine for the Obama Admin.
AntAC (Obama administration and George Soros) pushed a Ukrainian investigation into then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s business activities in Ukraine – WITH HELP FROM THE FBI, according to John Solomon from The Hill.
On March 21, 2017, Leschenko and Sytnyk, hold a press conference at the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, alleging Manafort took 12.7 million in illegal payments from Ukrainians and made a claim of a “black cashbox ledger”.
Leschenko gave the info to Alexandra Chalupa, a DNC operative who worked with Hillary. Both Chalupa and Arepovitch, the CEO of Crowdstrike, are connected to a hard left authoritarian fascist group in The Ukraine.
April 28, 2016 – Chalupa and Isikoff, a Yahoo Reporter who was deeply involved with Christopher Steele, etc, held a press conference in Washington, DC, and invited 68 Ukrainian journalists and distribute the dirt on Manafort. The program was called Open World Leadership Center, held at the Library of Congress, and again, connected to George Soros.
NABU and the Obama Admin worked closely with Soros NGO AntAC. When Ukrainian prosecutors investigated AntAC over a missing $4.4 million in U.S. funding, they were told to stand down by Obama officials. Again, this is all tied to Hunter Biden and the missing 3 million dollars from Burisma holdings. “When the new prosecutor general Yuri Lutsenko went to meet Obama Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, he says he was stunned when the ambassador “gave me a list of people whom we should not prosecute.”
11) Chalupa received detailing of the payments from Leschenko. Payment detail from 2007-2012 lists advertising, computers, polling, consultant fees, etc. NONE OF THE PAYMENTS OR Manafort’s signatures WERE EVER CONFIRMED.
12) Chalupa also passed the Black Ledger info on to Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, who passed them on to staffer Nellie Ohr. Ohr passed the info on to her husband Bruce Ohr, Epoch Times reports. On May 30, 2016, Nellie Ohr sent an email to Bruce Ohr and Justice Department staffers under the subject line “Reported Trove of Documents on Ukrainian Party of Regions’ ‘Black Cashbox.’”— which means they were investigating Paul Manafort prior to the July 31, 2016, inception of “Crossfire Hurricane”.
13) Isikoff broke the story on Yahoo on Aug. 18, 2016, one of the first public mentions of purported “collusion with Russia” by the Trump team. Manafort had to step down as Trump’s campaign manager the next day.
14) In addition, Leshchenko served as a direct source of information for Fusion GPS—and their hired researcher—former CIA contractor Nellie Ohr. Yes, Nellie received info from Ukrainians, directly or via Fusion GPS, to influence a Presidential election.
15) “Ohr told congressional investigators on Oct. 19, 2018… When pressed, Nellie said she recalled them “mentioning someone named Serhiy Leshchenko, a Ukrainian.” She later admitted she knew of Leshchenko prior to her time at Fusion as he was a “very well-known, Ukrainian, anti-corruption activist”……. Leshchenko had adopted a strong anti-Trump stance (because Trump wanted to pursue a more friendly relationship with Russia). And remember, Putin is a nemesis to George Soros.
16) Remember when Manafort was charged with witness tampering, by the Mueller Special Counsel? Well, Manafort’s daughter’s phone was hacked and a text message was discovered. “….. it was reported by Politico in late February 2017 that a hack of the phone belonging to one of Manafort’s daughters revealed a text containing a blackmail threat that Manafort has attributed to Leshchenko. It’s not known with any certainty who actually sent the text, which contains an attachment that references “the Yanukovych accounting book” and lists an email address for Leshchenko.” Hmmmm…. “not known with any certainty” but Manafort received additional charges because of the text.
17) Leschenko and Sytnyk are found guilty. “…. December 2018, a Kyiv court ruled that Leshchenko, along with NABU Director Artem Sytnyk “acted illegally when they revealed that Manafort’s surname and signature were found in the so-called “black ledger” of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych’s Party of Regions,” the Kyiv Post reported on Dec. 12, 2018.”
18) Leschenko and Sytnyk interfered in an American election. ” The court noted the material was part of a pre-trial investigation and its release “led to interference in the electoral processes of the United States in 2016 and harmed the interests of Ukraine as a state.”
THERE’s your interference!
Leschenko and Sytnyk —->>>to Alexandra Chalupa —->>>>David Isikoff at Yahoo AND Glen Simpson at Fusion GPS —–>>>> Bruce Ohr —>>> FBI
A little more on Chalupa, because what she did was so brazen, given what we know now, about Russian meddling.
” Just days prior to Manafort’s hiring, on March 24, 2016, Chalupa spoke with the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, and told him of concerns she had regarding Manafort. “
What????
She talked directly to the Ukrainian Ambassador?
Are you kidding me?
That would be like Jared meeting Kislyak at the Russian Embassy or calling Lazarov, the Russian foreign minister.
” According to Politico, the day after Manafort’s hiring, Chalupa provided a briefing on “Manafort, Trump and their ties to Russia” to the DNC’s communications staff. Notably, “with the DNC’s encouragement,” Chalupa asked the Ukrainian Embassy staff to attempt to arrange an interview with Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko and have him discuss Manafort’s ties to former Ukrainian President Yanukovych. “
Are you kidding me?That would be just like Manafort/Bannon/Jared/Don Jr. requesting a meeting with PUTIN – DIRECTLY.
” The Ukrainian Embassy reportedly declined the request….” because it would have been illegal and considered meddling in a foreign election for the Presidency of the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT Chalupa did begin to work with reporters who were researching Trump AND various staff members at the Ukrainian Embassy.
” Andrii Telizhenko, who worked in the Ukrainian Embassy under one of Chaly’s top aides, Oksana Shulyar, has repeatedly stated that Chalupa was working closely with the Ukrainian Embassy to obtain information on Trump”
There’s our proof.
Chalupa worked directly with Ukrainians, received something of value, illegally, which meddled in an American election for the Presidency of the USA.
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Three backup source articles for reference if the reader chooses to explore further the deception of the Clinton Campaign of 2016.
This FISA FOOL’S DAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
I think it’s also a good time to pray for our country – that there be some healing, but that there be some FIXING FIRST. Like our VSG says, this can never happen again. So let’s FIX IT RIGHT.
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
And though we’re going to be all serious about fixing things, let’s have some FUN today.
Who’s up for some BOWLING???!!! *wink*
No – “seriously” – if you have some good April Fool’s Day jokes, just LET ‘EM RIP!!!
This FLAGS OUT FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.Candidate Donald J. Trump
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Although we enjoyed a truly historic rally today, picking up the trail where it was left off, in GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN – where Candidate Trump’s INTENSE work ethic defeated Hillary Clinton…..
Although we are now at a high point – having just won our “Battle of Midway”…..
There is something we need to realize.
You might say…. we need to talk. It’s good, but….. we need to talk.
Two posts by ForGodandCountry, which occurred in two different conversations, will put this in perspective. Because FG&C’s thinking almost perfectly mirrored MY unvoiced thinking, I am certain this is correct, and we need to “get in formation” again.
Here is the background.
The first conversation. It began when I posted this tweet of mine regarding the new TrumpWarRoom account on Twitter.
My take? Kinda like the 10% of #QAnon Trump Reality that's above the waterline and the #FakeNews has to call it a "crystal mountain" instead of an "iceberg theory". Likely to be #QAnon for normies. A #MustFollow IMO. https://t.co/5kpl8OQFld
ForGodandCountry March 28, 2019 at 13:08 Remember……the victory at Midway was made possible by this guy…
He and his small team of intelligence analysts broke the Japanese code and discovered the enemy’s plans. This was absolutely key to the victory at Midway and thus turning the tide of the war. I know I don’t need to point out how Q fits into this analogy from here.
wolfmoon1776 March 28, 2019 at 20:34 Edit Well, maybe not me, but SOMEBODY is! (I’m a bit more of a “code-talker”!) And who knows – maybe some day we will run into those code-makers and code-breakers!
If you’re not 5:5 on that, here is a hint. There was a small team of secret NSA / Q-class patriots who – as they have said all along – were behind the QAnon operation. This group is not perfectly analogous to the group of codebreakers that gave the Midway victory to the United States in World War II, but – well – it’s still INCREDIBLY analogous. These were both highly complex and massive secret information warfare operations carried out by small teams with much support and assistance by other patriots.
We were incredibly privileged to be a part of this, even if we were not actually the “code makers” and “code breakers”. Just like the many American military and civilians who HELPED the codebreakers of World War II, so we were honored to HELP the Q team pull off what it did.
Are you 5:5 now? Good.
However, that said, you probably know the bittersweet news that’s coming. If you know the history of information warfare operations, then you know that they tend to remain secret for a long time. The actors are suspected, but they vanish. Declassification of the operations is typically FAR OFF in the future. Often, if not always, names are known only after the participants have the best seats in the house.
Now, the next conversation:
TheseTruths March 28, 2019 at 17:31 Edit I remember not long ago when Q gear was prohibited at some rallies. I don’t know if it was for security reasons, political reasons, or what. The tide is turning.
ForGodandCountry March 28, 2019 at 18:22 Not sure how to say it except this… You don’t serve wine before it’s time. Because even fine wine tastes bad before it’s properly aged, and serving it early can give it a bad name despite its quality. Btw……we are seeing more and more of Q. Massive # of posts today. Enjoy it while it lasts. Soon now, Q will be signing off because: Mission Accomplished. Q’s purpose was to spark the awakening and give it life and energy. The baby is alive now, and growing rapidly. With Declass and hidden info public, Q’s purpose, and mission, will be completed. Also……Q will never be named. He/she/ (most likely) they will be like the “Unknown Soldier”….forever representing ALL the silent, hidden patriots MAGA. I propose that we dedicate an open thread to Q, so that we can all say thank you in our own ways before Q goes dark.
ForGodandCountry, March 28, 2019 (WQTH Open Thread)
My only disagreement is that we WILL need MORE than one thread to speak our sincere GRATITUDE to Q, Q+, the Q team, and the many others who made this day – this moment – a reality.
TODAY we BEGIN to thank them. Let today be…..
Flags Out Friday
Even if you have to put out your flag INDOORS because of the rain…..
Even if your flag is like my “special” flag….
A tiny, cheap, stiff flag, stapled to a piece of pine, but saved in a secret yet open place of honor in a cluttered den – and the flag is special because it was waved enthusiastically at a World War II vet who was extra special – well – TODAY let that flag be out specifically for the Q Team and the hidden patriots who helped them.
Put it out in honor of the PRIVATE KEY which matched our PUBLIC KEY, and thereby pulled off an amazing operation, that people will talk about long after we ALL have the best seats in the house.
God bless the Q Team, God bless us all, and God Bless America.
This POST-MUELLER MONDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Everything is a bit different now.
OK – Let’s be more specific….
OH, HECK – let’s just be obvious as HELL!!!
You just HAVE to love Trump’s “press conference” today!!!
President Trump at the White House: “I just want to tell you that America is the greatest place on Earth. The greatest place on Earth." pic.twitter.com/9yQvuR2FGC
I personally think that the Mueller report was “fair” – even the part about not fully exonerating on obstruction, because the reality is that the legalities of presidential power in terms of firing crooked staff who have some degree of power OVER or AGAINST the office of the President are all VERY murky, and Mueller was right to not “exonerate” more than he could both LEGALLY and TRUTHFULLY. There is a lot of unsettled law here, IMO.
NOW – my theory on what actually happened does not fully exonerate Bob Mueller, either. I may be wrong about this, but if Mueller was just pretending to go after Trump, he sure was doing a good job. I think he and Weissmann “took the job seriously”, and were ready to “go the extra Cohen mile” and do things like dishonor attorney-client privilege, in order to harass Trump throughout his ONLY (their thinking) four years.
Like I say – the Mueller SC could have been an act, but if so, it was a good one. They also let Bob Mueller be a snake before Trump even got serious about becoming President, during the Clinton administration. That is PROMPT action!
Anyway, my “post-Mueller” thoughts today…..
wolfmoon1776 March 24, 2019 at 19:47 E Br’er WOLF tips his hat to Br’er POSSUM, who SAVED Br’er LION by throwing himself into the BRIAR PATCH, where he found Br’er BALD EAGLE and Br’er BARRED OWL, who made Br’er MULE tell the truth about Br’er LION, who DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH BR’ER BEAR OR BR’ER PANDA BEAR. THE END. OH WAIT – DID SISTA MOON BAT HAVE SEX WITH THOSE BEARS???!!!
wolfmoon1776 March 24, 2019 at 23:03 E Roberta – in *MY* opinion, Mueller, Rosenstein and Weissmann WERE colluding with the impeachment agenda, and fully intended to create bogus indictments of the Trump kids, in particular to try to “brazen out” the Veselnitskaya FRAMING of Donald Trump, Jr. This could have allowed Mueller to control the evidence of Russian involvement there, so that – as his DOWN SIDE, they could protect Loretta Lynch and others, and particularly all those in the Deep State / DNC who were colluding with Russia on Uranium One, etc. The UP SIDE would have been to build a “pre-impeachment narrative” up to the 2020 election, and then LEAVE THE QUESTION HANGING for the election. I believe BARR came in and called BULLSHIT on the evidence against Don Jr., likely saying that the evidence looked equally good (actually greater, but assume he played his hand lightly) that somebody was SETTING UP Don Jr. Since Matt Whitaker had cut off the fishing expedition, that was all they had. Weissmann left DISCREDITED – his prize indictments on the cutting room floor. Mueller had to wrap up what they had – NOTHING. BUT – and this is key – no proof HERE that Mueller and Rosey would have done EXACTLY what we know they would have done, if Barr had not come in, and ROSENSTEIN would have rendered the verdict on proceeding with Weissmann’s bullshit indictments (which I’m SURE he would have). The LAWFARE GANG is very careful to do as LITTLE which is OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL as possible. Thus, I believe that Mueller punted – not to the Dems, but to TRUMP. It was the only thing he could do. NO “Don Junior suspicion leverage field goal” for Team Black Hat. Instead, they had to punt, and TRUMP now has the ball. Liked by 1 person Reply
It’s been a long time (July 30, 2017) since I published an article on my other blog – which almost nobody read, mind you – that actually had somebody STAKING OUT MY HOUSE.
Yes – there were 7 likes, 31 comments, and the NEIGHBORS called the cops on the guy.
And then there was the other guy. That was not nice. Actually more dangerous than I realized at the time.
Like I said, this is NOT A GAME.
Just look at my header image and you can see why I rattled some cages.
All of this was in the SHADOW of Steve Bannon publicly stating – to the horror of Silicon Valley – that it might have to be regulated under anti-trust to control the CENSORSHIP which was clearly ramping up.
Remember also – THIS was before a variety of desperate communist/media moves against our VSGPOTUS, and the (in my opinion) MILITARY RESPONSE to the Las Vegas massacre.
Charlottesville, August 11-12, 2017
Las Vegas, October 1, 2017
QAnon First Probable Post, Oct 28, 2017
MBS Saudi Purge, November 4, 2017
The exact relationship of these events is unknown, but it is clear that 2017 was a time of some kind of internal, government-level warfare in the United States, as the forces loyal to Hillary Clinton attempted to oust President Trump, using a combination of:
lawfare
leaks
violent staged events
intimidation and threats against supporters of Trump
media coercion
social media suppression
This thing was WAY more than just a WITCH-HUNT, in my opinion. The Witch-Hunt (which our VSGPOTUS ultimately cornered into submission, IMO – in large part because of his INNOCENCE)….
….was just a small part of the WAR AGAINST TRUMP.
Why am I stating all this stuff? Because it is BACKGROUND for the DEPLOYMENT of the….
Q Psy-Op
….which we are all following now. It is my personal opinion that the Q project was a long time in the making, but was deployed post-haste after Las Vegas because of the intense level of crisis which this event represented to the nation, if not the world. Alternatively, Las Vegas may have been meant to PREEMPT the deployment of Q. All of this is very fuzzy, buried in the shadows of the hidden world of hidden strategies. But – IMO – the two events were clearly related by CONFLICT.
NOW – understanding the SERIOUSNESS of the social media war in support of “the Hillary Faction”, because of related events, I believe you all can properly appreciate what QAnon chronicler PAUL SERRAN is talking about in THIS great article, spotted and suggested by our own PhoenixRising:
I’m not going to copy any of the article here, but I will instead describe what it is and why you need to read it.
The Q team (basically representing .mil / NSA) has been in a continuous taunt-battle with the forces in control of American social media – or as I like to call them, “socialist media”. Much of this is psy-ops, mind games, disinformation, information as disinformation, and “controlling the opposition”, but in the process, it sheds a lot of light on these things, and more:
what goes on in socialist media
who socialist media works for and supports
how socialist media is used to control us
what is going to happen to socialist media (loss of control)
what is happening to us as a function of that change (many things)
SO – don’t expect a nice, obvious chronology here, on first glance. This is like American Civil War history. It’s all a blur until you follow the generals, follow the strategies, and fill in a LOT of history.
Nevertheless, it’s a very good read – easy to follow – and maybe more than once. Paul breaks out VERY CLEARLY what each of the Q drops about BIG TECH actually means. You will begin to understand the BATTLES, so that you can understand the WAR.
So read all about it – the FIGHT AGAINST BIG TECH.
