“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This Steady As We Go Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Thunderstep Music, titled ‘Unbroken Spirit’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a massive Tree growing up out of a deep canyon; the base of which has an intricate internal structure of several floors of large rooms with arched openings and long windows. A soft light is shining out from them. There are two suspended pathways, leading to the base of the Tree on opposite sides of the canyon.
There are streams of water falling magically off of the huge leafed-out branches of the Tree…cascading down into the canyon below. It’s as though the Tree itself, is the source of the water. The sides of the canyon are covered in lush, verdant tree growth…but none are as massive as the Tree growing up from the canyon.
In the background, the canyon ends and gives rise to a large green clearing that is covered with a stepped series of waterfalls, cascading down into the canyon. This is all surrounded by huge snow-capped mountains, reaching upward to the sun and clouds. The position of the massive Tree eclipses the sun, causing to it to be backlit…but the Tree’s branches are so densely covered in leaves, there is very little light showing through. Second Image: Is a cozy interior view of a stairway against the wall leading down into a large area with overstuffed chairs, a couch and soft lighting. There is a bannister made of winding tree branches. Throw pillows and throw rugs add to the comfy atmosphere. Third Image: Is President Trump with a solemn, quizzical look on his face.
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Audiomachine, titled ‘Godspeed’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump outside of the White House, giving a little wave with his right hand. He is grinning with his head tilted slightly to the right. It is a bright, sunny day, so he is squinting a little. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is another moving image, a gif, of a dog laying down on a carpeted floor. His head is on the floor and he is looking forward with a patient look on his face, as an endless stream of kittens runs past his head. Fourth Image: President Trump is standing on the stairway outside the door of Air Force One. It is night time and the lights shining on him create a shadow of him on the aircraft door that looks like the head of an Eagle.
This Shining Light Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG world.
Come on in and get comfy:
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Twelve Titans Music, titled ‘Bound By Purpose’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Top Image: Is a gigantic Tree reaching up into white fluffy clouds. Rays of the sun are emerging through the clouds and are streaming through the Tree’s leafy canopy and massive branches. There are wisps of clouds around the lower sections of the Tree’s giant trunk. Second Image: Is a view of a winding stone path surrounded on each side by a thick growth of a variety of colorful flowers. The path leads to an arched doorway with double doors. There is an ornate metal gate as an outer cover for the doorway. More flowers and lush green ivy completely surround the doorway on all sides. Third Image: Is a rounded open room-sized viewing deck, looking out over tree tops. There is a cushioned S-shaped seating console in the center of the room, with lots of throw pillows. Round cushioned ottomans are positioned against it, fitting into the concave sections of it’s S-shape. Towards the outer edge of the deck is a small fire pit in the center of a round cushioned bench. There is free-form railing around the outer edge of the deck. Fourth Image: President Trump is sitting at his desk in the oval office, reading some papers. Sunlight is streaming in from one of the windows behind him, illuminating both him and the papers he is holding. An aide is standing beside the desk, and looks like he is waiting for President Trump to read what he is looking at.
This FEAR NO EVIL FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what do we want to be able to tell our VSG?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q posted again, according to a reliable pattern (see if you see the same one I am seeing).
This is big. THIS is the main message, IMO. It is PSYCHOLOGICAL. It is IMMINENT. This is not “get ready” – you should have prepared ALREADY. This is BE READY.
I know I recycled an old “preparation” meme for the header, but that’s the one where, when it originally played, you should have “gotten ready”.
Yeah, there is likely time to fill the tanks and hit the grocery store, but BIG PREP should have been done by now.
Note that Q’s post is very subtle, almost BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, TIC, TOC, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN in a kind of “don’t pay attention to the person who has said all this stuff before” way.
You know what I’m sayin’? Good. “Pay attention to this one” is where I’m putting MY CHIPS.
Future comms, baby! Why? Because things are GOING DYNAMIC very soon. All that stuff Q talked about, about comms being shut down, messed with, and otherwise under attack – this is going to happen. We are going to have to GET DYNAMIC and FIGHT BACK.
HELL – it’s happening ALREADY! Just think about it. The Cabal tried to ratchet it up slowly, but it’s obvious that they’ve been turning the screws on us.
They are OPENLY MOVING AGAINST FREE SPEECH NOW. The FIRST AMENDMENT.
You see all this shit coming out now about what Silicon Valley was doing? Altering our fucking search results for POLITICAL CONTENT back to WELL before the 2016 election? Meddling on a scale that DWARFS what they even ALLEGE that Russia did!
DO YOU KNOW what this means? This means that “WE HAVE IT ALL” was watching this shit IN PROGRESS. This “breaking news” of MASSIVE ELECTION MEDDLING by Silicon Valley was KNOWN. “We have it all” had it all, brothers and sisters. They KNEW what kind of treason was being pulled. These LEFT TECH fuckers thought they were getting away with it.
I don’t see these progzi turds in Silicon Valley giving up. I don’t see them backing down. I see them having to be DRAGGED OUT IN CUFFS.
Okay, folks. Think of this as recon #101. We’re scoping our opponents, looking for good memes for the 2020 election season. Yes, in order to be informed citizens, we have to watch the debates. We KNOW the press takes comments out of context, on the left and on the right——– so let’s be accurate, at least.
And there’s the chance our President will be tweeting comments to keep life interesting. Keep in mind, however, he leaves for the G20 at 1:00pm today and might be over the Pacific or otherwise engaged.
Hey Treepers, do us all a favor while you are here. If you have info about a particular Dem Candidate, please drop the info into the thread below. We can then come back to this thread as a reference.
Should be a fun evening. No throwing television sets into the driveway! Put on your happy face and come to the party!
This TOTALITARIAN TECH TITAN TAMPERING TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
And a great thing that KMAG ain’t GAFA!!!
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Well, it looks like things are becoming very obvious now.
NOT ONLY did the Silicon Valley tech giants conspire against us by HELPING and USING the PHONY “Russian meddling” hoax (which Russia helped them create with little bits of second-order-influential garbage, but let’s set that aside for the moment) in a FAILED ATTEMPT to swing the 2016 election FOR Hillary Clinton and AGAINST Donald Trump…..
NOT ONLY did the Silicon Valley tech giants do innumerable OTHER THINGS to tilt the election FOR Hillary Clinton…..
NOT ONLY did Google’s Eric Schmidt CONSPIRE to create the “fake news” narrative against us, only to have his ASS HANDED BACK TO HIM BY OUR VSGPOTUS (and Sharyl Attkisson, too)….
(YOU’RE FAKE NEWS, ERIC!)
NOT ONLY are the Silicon Valley tech giants NOW conspiring against us in NEW and CUNNING ways, with stupid, ridiculous excuses to HIDE WHAT THEY ARE DOING……
NOT ONLY were my theories VINDICATED – those theories that BIG TECH MANAGEMENT and the CORRUPT OBAMA-CLINTON Intelligence Community used their PHONY intelligence story of “Russian bots” to SUPPRESS CONSERVATIVES….
NOT ONLY did these same people try to continue this shit to IMPEACH President Trump….
BUT….
My theory that globalist DISCRIMINATION against “native American” IT workers in favor of FOREIGNERS, Social Justice Warriors, and others who would GO ALONG WITH ALL THIS UNETHICAL SHIT for these crucial
Socialist Nation-Capture Elections (2016 and now 2020)
is now becoming
STARKLY APPARENT.
It was our own Deplorable Patriot who pointed it out in THIS LADY’S CASE, based on her ACCENT…..
THE OVER-HIRING AND MANIPULATION OF POLITICALLY BIASED AND NAIVE FOREIGNERS BY SILICON VALLEY BIG TECH MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH UNETHICAL GLOBALIST GOALS IS A FEATURE, NOT A BUG. pic.twitter.com/Sa8VXbwUwQ
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Audiomachine, titled ‘Breath and Life’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump in the oval office, with an amused look on his face. We don’t know who he was looking at when the photo was taken, but I get the impression that he didn’t think much of them. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is a cup of coffee with a frothy layer of bubbles on the surface of the coffee. Two large bubbles resemble eyes and an even larger bubble resembles an open mouth. It is a moving image and one eye winks at us while the mouth closes a little. Fourth Image: President Trump is having to endure both the press and the insufferable Justine Trudeau…at the same time. He has an exasperated look on his face, like he can’t wait for the event to be over.
Welcome! The door is open, come on up and get comfy.
This Summer Solstice Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KAG! world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this mix from Fearless Motivation of two tracks, titled ‘Face Your Demons’ and ‘Learn From Your Haters’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a natural-looking doorway into the side of a giant Tree with a foot bridge leading up to it. Just inside the doorway is a stairway leading upward. Branches form the railings on the foot bridge and there is dense leafy vegetation on either side. A thick growth of ivy and moss nearly covers the bark of the Tree. Second Image: Is an open-sided room with a view of the treetops. There are over-stuffed couches covered in throw pillows, with lots of lanterns placed around giving off a soft glow. The ceiling is supported by gnarly tree trunks and the railing along the open side is made up of bark-covered branches. Third Image: Is a picture of President Trump, waving from just outside Air Force One. He is squinting from the bright outdoor light and has a solemn look on his face.
This FAKEBOOK FALLS FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA KAG! world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Always be able to tell our VSG this POWER STATEMENT in TRUTH:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
If the tech giants want to censor political speech & advance a political viewpoint, fine. But then they should be treated like any other publisher
We need to move the #Section230 debate into the 21st century. Question is no longer how to encourage an infant industry. Question is whether the industry’s biggest, monopoly platforms can use 230 to stifle competition, censor speech, and invade privacy
This guy totally gets it. Silicon Valley is now a COMMUNIST THUG OPERATION, operating out of ENEMY TERRITORY in CHINA-OCCUPIED CALIFORNIA.
There was a point in time when people realized we needed to go after Section 230. I remember posting quite a bit about it. THAT was when we finally had some kind of idea WHERE to attack the beast. But BEFORE THAT, we merely recognized that something was WRONG with Silicon Valley, and they would have to be ORDERED not to censor – possibly even BROKEN UP.
Steve Bannon was the first on populism’s side to prominently suggest this. What was NOT obvious THEN, but is extremely obvious NOW, is that the left’s MASSIVE attacks against Steve Bannon began IMMEDIATELY AFTER he began talking “anti-trust” against Silicon Valley.
Now – after talking to Tonawanda today, I realize COMPLETELY how socialism in general, and Silicon Valley in particular, snuff out ideas that they don’t like – by a very stealthy campaign to keep the discussion level of that item below some critical value that THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO – now that I understand how Google and YouTube are actually run by RED DIAPER SOCIALIST THUGS – certain things make sense – that these organizations might “farm out” the silencing of viewpoints they don’t particularly want to reach whatever critical value they must not reach. And we all know that OUTSOURCING is actually a form of denial of “how it got done”. When “methods” have to be used – why – just outsource! Outsourcing – oddly enough – turns out to be a form of the MAMET PRINCIPLE – “pretending not to know”.
On July 30, 2017, I made the unknowingly risky decision to publish a piece SUPPORTING Steve Bannon’s “radical” and “unthinkable” idea of reining in Silicon Valley censorship. It was based on the idea that SOME kind of “information anti-trust” was fully in line with Trump’s form of populism – that this was almost DESTINY for the MAGA movement.
It was NOT HARD for me to figure out that, after ALL the left-provoking things I’ve risked over the Obama years, the FIRST EVER STAKING OUT of my lowly abode JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED to that little article, and the surprisingly warm reception it got. (Don’t trust the numbers on Twitter – more on that later.)
The intimidation actually got way worse, as in “classic thug type”, but there is no way that I, personally, can positively connect it to Silicon Valley. But I simply assume that the threat came from there. I stepped on SOMEBODY’S hedge fund.
I should note that whatever I or others did in response, it ended the problem. For a while.
Great Awakening, baby. Think they don’t use violence? Don’t think they use threats? Think again. The bogus staged Charlottesville incident (August 11-12) and the Las Vegas Massacre (October 1) followed shortly after this.
Followed – thankfully – by the firing of Treasonous McCabe and the deployment of QAnon, due to – in my opinion – militarily significant actions by the communists in conjunction with a politically motivated COUP ATTEMPT using the FBI and the Soviet American media.
Vegas was the last straw for “puttin’ up with the coup”. And I’m very glad people did what was needed after that, to end that bullshit.
Go on from there, to see how I was “awakened” to censorship at Twitter. This is actually a lot of fun to read, because in it, I am SPECULATING WILDLY about all sorts of stuff that we now know was not just true, but RIDICULOUSLY TRUE. Oh, man, that was fun.
From there, I eventually got on the “230” bus, almost a year later. Here is a nice thread:
The way to end social media censorship is to modify 47 U.S. Code § 230 (c) (1) (A) which is used to censor us.
The mod is that all PROVIDERS between any creator and any user must provide legal speech with an uninfringed FREE SPEECH PATH between the two.https://t.co/wB9XWRXN9V
Clearly, BANNON’S idea of actually CHALLENGING Silcon Valley took hold. Red Diaper Sergey and Google pulled back from China to Communist California, and – well – now we can see that….
IT TAKES A VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS ON THE INTERNET TO SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY OTHER VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS IN REAL LIFE.
Heck – I may just have a Sam Adams.
And ponder the beauty of my new favorite composite number, 230.
This WE WILL KEEP AMERICA GREAT! WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA KAG! world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Always be able to tell our VSG this POWER STATEMENT in TRUTH:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
You will notice that starting TODAY, the Daily Open Thread has a NEW TITLE:
Dear KAG!
The PEOPLE have spoken, and KAG! it is.
SO, starting today, we begin the NEXT PHASE of our GRAND PROJECT of SECURING the LIBERTY, SOVEREIGNTY, and PROMISE of THIS GRAND REPUBLIC.
This does not mean that we abandon MAGA – not in the least.
Many things – particularly BAD THINGS which the diabolical DEMS have protected and encouraged, are not part of any “greatness” that needs to be kept. NO – much of America STILL needs to be “made great” – mostly by making Democrats…..
HELP FIX IT OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.
SO – we still need to KEEP UP THE MAGA while we BEGIN TO KAG!
And thus, we begin with excitement a NEW TASK, with a NEW OUTLOOK.
What the PEOPLE of AMERICA have MADE GREAT, we must now KEEP GREAT!
I don’t just think we can do it.
I *TRUST* that we can do it.
W
Trust that our mission to make great again and keep great the divine project of General Washington and the rest of the Founders will not fail – cannot fail – if we continue to place our Trust in a Higher Power of Good which rules over us..
