“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
Speaker Johnson Pinging you on January 6 Tapes
Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?
We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)
Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)
Justice Must Be Done.
The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.
Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.
Small Government?
Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.
This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.
No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.
World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.
So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.
Political Science In Summation
It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).
His Truth?
Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.
I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.
But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.
Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.
But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.
Lawyer Appeasement Section
OK now for the fine print.
This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines, here, with an addendum on 20191110.
We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights 2. No running with scissors. 3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. 4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns. 5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded. 5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty. 6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy. 7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. 8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
Gold has now busted $2600. Silver is going up but not quite enough to keep up with gold (it’s worth slightly less in terms of gold than it was last week). Palladium jumped up then back down this last week, ending virtually unchanged. But platinum is sliding. Rhodium is essentially stable.
*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.
Piling On
Just an Observation
The latest flerfer complaint is that the Final Experiment (the trip to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun) won’t count because it’s not an experiment but rather an observation. WTF? Anyhow, in this video, among many things of interest such as the fact that other people will be taking sun pictures that day in order to test the effect of variables (which would make it an experiment!), it’s shown what a bunch of lying hypocrite charlatans they are for trying to make this argument:
And this one from a year ago where Dave McKeegan tells of plotting the positions of celestial bodies over the Earth’s surface…then translating that to the pizzaworld model.
Antarctica
Oh, and spring (for Antarctica; it will be fall for Northern Hemisphere folks) starts at 06:43 Mountain Time on the 22nd (Sunday). This is the moment when the sun, which appears to travel along the zodiac line (even though we are orbiting it), appears to cross the celestial equator, northbound. [The celestial equator is just our own equatorial plane, projected out to infinity in the sky. The zodiac is the plane of the Earth’s orbit about the sun, projected out to infinity in the sky.] That should be the nominal instant when more than half of the sun becomes visible at Amundsen-Scott station at the south pole. (However, refraction makes the sun appear higher in the sky than it otherwise would, when it’s near the horizon, so sunrise will be somewhat earlier than this for them–and has probably already happened.)
So wish the 40 or so people who have spent the last six months wintering over there in either twilight or complete darkness a good “morning”!
Oh, wait…this doesn’t exist, does it? It’s all CGI!
In which case let’s get our money’s worth out of all that CGI, since we paid for it with our tax money. Here are a couple of videos which are tours of the station. First, upstairs.
Downstairs:
And there’s a part three (out of 2?) for the bits buried under the ice (such as vehicle maintenance, the generators, the logistics area, and so on); largely stuff that can get cold.
Incidentally there are three generators, that rotate, one is generally undergoing maintenance, one is a backup, the other is the active one. If all three crap out, there’s another generator that might manage to keep one part of the the station above freezing, but were this sort of failure to happen during winter over, they’re basically dead. It’d be easier to get people off the ISS then out of Amundsen Scott during winter.
And here’s one for the Ice Cube neutrino observatory (you’ll recall discussions of the neutrino in my Sun article a couple of weeks ago as well as during the physics series, part 20):
Anyhow, I hope you all enjoyed all that expensive taxpayer-funded CGI.
The 800 lb Gorilla
Jupiter, as photographed by the Hubble Space Telescope in 2017. A true-color image.
The single most important fact about Jupiter is that it is BIG. How big? Well let’s compare it to Earth and the Moon:
By size it’s 11 times the width of Earth; by mass it’s 318 Earths. That’s over 2 1/2 times the mass of all other planets, asteroids, comets, etc., put together. Or to think of it another way, you can characterize the solar system as consisting of the Sun, Jupiter, and miscellaneous debris. (And even with that Jupiter is barely 1/1000 the mass of the Sun.) To put it in absolute terms, Jupiter is roughly 88,000 miles across; and even the Great Red Spot–which is storm in the atmosphere–would swallow the Earth.
Ironically, if Jupiter were somehow even more massive, it probably wouldn’t be much larger. The gas would simply compress more to make up for it. The maximum diameter might be a bit more than what we see, but not much. If it were 75 times more massive, it would actually be compressed enough to start fusing hydrogen…and it might actually be the size of Saturn; considerably smaller than its actual diameter.
Jupiter has four major moons, three of them larger than our Moon, plus another 91 smaller moons, generally too small to be forced into a spherical shape. Those four big moons are at least as interesting as Jupiter itself and will be covered in a different article.
Jupiter orbits at about 5.2 AU from the Sun (and I’m not going to explain AUs yet again). That makes its “year”–the time to make one orbit about the Sun–11.86 Earth years. It has almost no axial tilt, so it doesn’t have seasons to speak of.
This is significant: It’s beyond the “snow line.” This means that a lot of things that would normally be vapor inside the line–like water–are solid outside. Hydrogen and helium, the major constituents of the matter that formed the solar system, are considerably cooler and easier for planets to hang on to; and Jupiter did just that; that’s fundamentally why it is so big.
Jupiter rotates on its axis in 9 hours, 55 minutes, and 30 seconds. That’s considerably less time than it takes Earth to do so (23 hours, 56 minutes, 4 seconds…with respect to the stars). Combine that with the fact that it is 11 times wider, and it turns out that an object on the Jovian equator experiences 65 times the centrifugal (well…it’s actually centripetal) force as an object on Earth’s equator. Why does that matter? It makes Jupiter look distinctly oblate (squashed); the difference between the diameter through the poles and between the equator is actually noticeable.
Jupiter is made almost entirely of gas and (deep down, under insane amounts of pressure somewhere between 500 and 4,000 atmospheres) liquid metallic hydrogen. Yes, under extreme pressure hydrogen behaves like a metal, complete with metallic bonds. And deep inside is a rock and ice core, that all by itself is larger than Earth. The following diagram is a cutaway of Jupiter. The pressures down there could be as high as 40,000 atmospheres, and the temperature is likely around 20,000K (versus 165K (-163 F) near the visible “surface.”
Unsurprisingly the atmosphere is mostly hydrogen (roughly 3/4), helium (a bit less than 1/4), plus a bunch of simple molecules like water (H2O), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and even phosphine (PH3)…basically simple molecules made up of very common elements.
What we see is an “upper” cloud deck, but as it happens the light bands (called “zones”) are at a considerably higher altitude than the dark bands (called “belts”). The upper clouds made largely of ammonia ice are at a pressure of 0.6 – 0.9 Earth atmospheres, the lower visible clouds contain sulfur compounds as well as water ice and can be anywhere from 1-7 Earth atmospheres.
All of this implies that the atmosphere just above these clouds is already fairly thick, while being clear enough for us to see through.
That liquid metallic hydrogen has a significant consequence–Jupiter has a ridiculously huge magnetosphere. Since it captures charged particles, just like our Van Allen belts do here on Earth, that makes the entire Jovian system, including the Moons, very hazardous from a radiation standpoint. We can’t realistically send manned missions to Jupiter’s moons because of this, with the possible exception of the outermost of the large moons. It’s shaped something like a tadpole, with the head facing the Sun and the tail pointing away from the Sun. I haven’t been able to nail down the diameter of the magnetosphere, but it extends some 7 million kilometers towards the Sun, and the tail nearly reaches Saturn’s orbit. More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter
Like the Sun, Jupiter exhibits differential rotation, with belts and zones rotating at different speeds and vortices (including spots) showing up a lot on the boundaries. Here is a GIF made from a timelapse of Jupiter rotating as seen from Voyager I in the 1980s. The pictures are all taken at times when the Great Red Spot in the same orientation with respect to to the spacecraft, so you can see other features, which rotate at different speeds, change position with respect to the Great Red Spot.
Herding Cats
Jupiter’s great mass means that it often deflects smaller bodies in the solar system like comets and asteroids. Many comets have an orbital period that suggests that an encounter with Jupiter put the comet into that orbit in the first place. And Jupiter has even taken a bullet or two, most recently in 1995. The comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 was discovered having already broken into pieces thanks to tidal forces (yes, tidal forces show up again!) from Jupiter; it then was realized that Shoemaker Levy was going to impact Jupiter! What a spectacle! (And how good it was for us that it was Jupiter taking the brunt of that, not Earth!)
It wasn’t just a spectacle; the comet left “holes” in Jupiter’s atmosphere that allowed deeper material to come up to the surface where we could analyze the light with spectroscopes and learn more about Jupiter’s interior.
Jupiter is generally credited with reducing the amount of stuff that rains down on Earth from elsewhere in the Solar System.
History
Jupiter has been known since ancient times; it is generally the third brightest object in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Since it is so bright and moves through the sky at a fairly stately pace, it got associated with the king of the gods, Zeus or in Latin, Jupiter.
It’s one of the ancient seven planets, each of which was associated with a metal, and each of which ended up associated with a day of the week. These are: Sun, gold, Sunday; Moon, silver, Monday; Mercury, mercury, Wednesday; Venus, copper, Friday; Mars, iron, Tuesday; Jupiter, tin, Thursday; and Saturn, lead, Saturday. And yes, the Sun and Moon were considered planets back then because they moved against the celestial sphere; the recent kerfuffle with Pluto is not the first time we’ve reclassified things. Many of our days of the week are named after Norse gods, but if you go to languages like Spanish, French or Italian, you’ll see the connections between days of the week and our planetary names (which, like those languages, are legacies of the Romans) more readily.
It’s a lucky coincidence that Jupiter turned out to be the king, not of the gods, but rather of the planets once we learned a lot more about it. This began mere months after we first turned telescopes to the sky; In 1610 Galileo noted four tiny “stars” near Jupiter, and could see the pattern change nightly, even over just a few hours. These turned out to be the four big moons of Jupiter (larger or comparable to our own moon).
The four big moons are to this day known as the Galilean moons, and you can spot them with binoculars. I said I’d cover them another time but there are a couple of points I want to make. First, when Galileo discovered them and realized they were orbiting Jupiter, that killed the centuries-old presumption that everything in the universe revolved around the Earth. (And if that wasn’t enough the phases of Venus put the final nail in the coffin, as they showed Venus revolved around the Sun.)
And our view of the universe was never the same again. That dinky telescope of Galileo’s (which is on display at a museum in Florence) is arguably one of the two most important telescopes in history for this reason. (The other being the 100 inch Hooker telescope that Hubble used.)
Second was their use in navigation. Galileo realized almost immediately that the moons’ motions were very regular; such that one could work up a time table and be able to tell absolute time with some accuracy here on Earth, provided you could see Jupiter and point a small telescope at it. Why was that a big deal? Because if you’re sailing a ship, the only way you can determine your longitude is by knowing what time it is in an absolute sense, or at least compared to some other location. For instance, if it’s noon in Greenwich, it’s about 7 AM in Washington DC….or perhaps some other spot in the middle of the ocean directly south of Washington DC. If you know both items of information; that the sun says it’s 7AM but it’s noon in Greenwich, England right now, you can figure out you are at 75 degrees west longitude. The problem was, they had no way of knowing what time it was in London at that same instant. We didn’t have anything like an accurate clock we could just set to London time (and never adjust it) to compare the local time to. But, we could look at Jupiter; if the moons were in the position for 3AM, you knew, regardless what time it was where you were at, that it was 3AM where the time tables were made. So you have a means of determining longitude.
But there was a fly in the ointment; it turns out that after painstakingly computing the table, it wouldn’t work well after a few months; the moons might get to their predicted position a bit early or a bit late. It turns out that the problem wasn’t with the computations, it was with the fact that sometimes Earth is a bit further from Jupiter, sometimes a bit closer, and so we were being thrown off by the light speed delay changing from one position to the other (light can take about 17 minutes to cross Earth’s orbit from one end to the other, and that’s about how much our distance to Jupiter varies). 17 minutes corresponds to about four degrees of longitude which in turn is 240 nautical miles if you’re near the equator. That’s a significant error!
We’ve also discovered that Jupiter has a very tenuous ring, a far cry from Saturn’s ring system, but there nonetheless.
Spacecraft
Jupiter is visited often by our spacecraft, not only for its own sake but because it’s a good waypoint for other missions; it’s often used for a gravity assist. The New Horizons probe to Pluto used a gravity assist from Jupiter to shorten its flight time by about five years (it could have got there without the assist, which in itself is remarkable).
The first probes were Pioneer 10 and 11 in 1973 and 1974. It was the Pioneer spacecraft that discovered Jupiter’s magnetosphere. (Pioneer 11 went on to Saturn). In 1979 Voyager 1 and 2 paid a visit, these spacecraft both went on to Saturn and one of them went on to Hugh Janus and Neptune.
Ulysses, which was a mission to study the sun, flew by Jupiter in 1992 and again in 2004. Why send a solar probe away from the sun to Jupiter? Because we wanted to put the probe in a highly inclined orbit so we could see the Sun’s north and south poles for the first time. The easiest way to do that was to send Ulysses past Jupiter’s north pole and let Jupiter bend the orbit into the new plane, some 80 degrees off from the main plane of the solar system. (Jupiter will bend your trajectory no matter what, but if we approach Jupiter so as to pass the pole, the trajectory will be bent outside of the plane of the planets’ orbits.) If we hadn’t done that we’d have needed a gigantic delta-V to cancel out Earth’s motion around the sun (which the spacecraft would “inherit”), then more to put the spacecraft into its new orbit around the sun. Ulysses took these opportunities to study Jupiter’s magnetosphere.
Cassini flew by in 2000, on its way to Saturn.
Flybys are great, but an orbiter is better. We sent the Galileo orbiter to Jupiter, with it arriving in 1995 and sending back data, including from close encounters with the four Galilean moons, until 2003. Galileo was well timed–when comet Shoemaker-Levy impacted Jupiter Galileo was approaching the system and took some amazing pictures of the aftermath of the event (the impacts were unfortunately on the far side). Galileo came with an atmospheric probe, too, that was dropped into Jupiter’s atmosphere on a suicide mission to return data for as long as it could withstand the rapidly-increasing pressure. In 2016, Juno, a European spacecraft, arrived at Jupiter, establishing itself in a highly elliptical and inclined orbit which means that once every orbit it gets very close to the clouds, and it passes over the poles, which otherwise we’d never see. Juno is still active.
Life?
Jupiter is sometimes cited as a possible location for life. In this case, since it’s essentially atmosphere down to depths where the pressure is crushing, the life forms are generally imagined as creatures with huge bladders filled with atmospheric gas…basically living hot air balloons. This idea got kicked around a lot, including by science fiction writers (like Arthur C. Clarke; a much more recent story told of Jovians’ reactions to Shoemaker-Levy 9).
All of this is complete speculation, of course, and I think as we’ve learned more about the rest of the solar system, we’ve come up with better candidates. But in the end we probably don’t know enough to even intelligently decide which scenario is most likely.
This contains the full text of Pakistani paper’s Sept 2001 “exclusive” interview with bin Laden.
In the Unmat interview, Osama bin Laden categorically denies his involvement in the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden’s statements in this interview are markedly different from those made in the alleged Osama video tapes.
In this interview, Osama bin Laden allegedly exhibits an understanding of US foreign policy. He expresses his views regarding the loss of life on 9/11. He focuses on CIA support to the narcotics trade.
He also makes statements as to who, in his opinion, might be the likely perpetrator of the September 11 attacks.
This is an important text which has not been brought to the attention of Western public opinion…
President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said yesterday that after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks the United States threatened to bomb his country if it did not cooperate with the American campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan… 🤔
REMEMBER the Taliban was BURNING the poppy fields. I do not think the CIA was happy about that.
THE DANCING ISRAELIS PICTURED BELOW
I had originally heard these ‘Dancing Middle Eastern Men’ were ARABS just as POTUS Trump had heard. This is the first I came across this information.
in 2019 the FBI at last acknowledged this event and declassified and released 144 pages documenting the agency’s investigation into a group of men who witnesses reported were filming and celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers…
Attorney General John Ashcroft personally signed off on the detainees’ release. Upon entering the private sector as a lobbyist and consultant in 2005,👉the Israeli government became one of Ashcroft’s first clients…
This Article has screenshots of the actual documents.
On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: “It’s very good……. Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)”
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home. While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS’ questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.
Said one of the men, 👉”Our purpose was to document the event.”
But how did they know there was going to BE an “event”?
…Three of the five “dancing Israelis” appeared on an Israeli television show to explain that 👉they were sent to document the event. Here is an excerpt of them:
According to a former high-ranking American intelligence official who spoke to the Jewish Daily Forward in 2002, the FBI concluded in its investigation that the five Israelis arrested “were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ, served as a front.”👉At least two of the men arrested were determined to have direct links to the Mossad after their names appeared in a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives.According to one of their lawyers, one of the men, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for the Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States. Another of those arrested, Oded Ellner, subsequently stated on Israeli TV that
👉the five Israelis had been in New York at the time “to document the event,” meaning the attack on the World Trade Center.
The FOIA release of the photos is notable because responses to prior FOIA requests to the Department of Justice, which oversees the FBI, had previously claimed that all of the photos taken by the Israeli nationals had been destroyed in January 2014….
April 3, 2019 Move comes as Trump’s Homeland Security Department disbands an intelligence unit that tracks right-wing violence. 👈 [RIGHT WING? That was Janet Napolitano switching DHS targeting FROM Muslims TO American patriots like military vets and retired LEOs. – GC]
Two former homeland security secretaries will co-chair a task force convened by national Jewish organizations aimed at tracking anti-religious violence.
The task force, announced Tuesday, is a joint project of the Anti-Defamation League and Secure Community Network, a Jewish self-defense initiative.
Its co-chairs are Jeh Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary under President Barack Obama, and Michael Chertoff, who held the job under President George W. Bush, and who is Jewish….
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HISTORY OF ISRAEL — CONNECTING DOTS
In April 1834, the House of Representatives voted against rechartering the Second Bank of the United States thanks to the efforts of Andrew Jackson. 27 years later the American Civil War started and ran from April 12, 1861 to May 26, 1865. Remember the Tsar of Russia prevented France and Britain from reclaiming the USA as their colonies as a result of that war. LINK Britain and the City of London were NOT HAPPY.
Lincoln’s assassin John Wilkes Booth’s had a Canadian connection. It was not until the 1867 British North America Act established the Dominion of Canada as a self-governing entity within the British Empire that Canada began the journey towards autonomy. So for all intents and purposes the Brits were behind the assassination of Lincoln. Funny how I do not remember those important bits of information from history class.
The Tsar, Alexander II of Russiawas the 12th Emperor of Russia from 1844 to 1881. The US Civil war ended May 26, 1865 and less than a year later the first assassination was attempted in April 1866. This was followed by a second in 1867, two more in 1879 and another on the evening of 5 February 1880. Finally on 13 March [O.S. 1 March] 1881 ‘they’ succeeded in killing him.
The European/Bank of London bankers saddled the USA with the Federal Reserve just 32 years after the assassination of TsarAlexander II. Five years later, on the night of July 16 -17, 1918, Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, his wife Alexandra Feodorovna, and their five children – Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Alexei were brutally murdered by Bolshevik revolutionaries thus wiping out the Tsar’s entire family line.
…. Pogroms were violent riots directed against Jewish communities, often with the tacit or explicit approval of local authorities. The first extensive pogroms followed the assassination of Tsar Alexander II in 1881. Three Jews were directly involved: Savelii Zlatopolskii, Grigorii Goldenberg and Aizik Aronchik.–GC
On the morning of March 13, 1881, Alexander II was travelling through the streets of Saint Petersburg in an open carriage, escorted by a small escort of soldiers and police. Several members of the People’s Will had positioned themselves along the route of the Tsar’s carriage and, as it approached, one of them threw a bomb at it. The bomb exploded inside the carriage, killing several members of the escort and injuring the Tsar. The bomber was captured almost immediately. When the Tsar was about to be taken to a safe place another attacker came close to him and threw a second bomb at his feet. Both the Emperor and the assassin were mortally injured.
The dying Emperor was carried by sleigh to his study in the Winter Palace and members of the Romanov family were summoned to say their last goodbye to him. At 3:30 that day, the Tsar passed away and his personal flag was lowered for the last time. The following month his son Alexander III ascended the Russian throne.
Aftermath
The assassination of Tsar Alexander II was a turning point in Russian and European history. It marked the beginning of a period of increased repression and censorship in Russia and served as a symbol of the growing tensions between traditional monarchies and the emerging socialist movement. [HMMMMmmmm 🤔]
I have already written about the Karl Marx, Rothschild Banker connections in my comments.
Theodor Herzl at the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, Aug. 25, 1897.
…The Rothschilds, who have made a fortune through banking since the 18th century, are a German-Jewish family whose members fled to European countries, some even receiving the title of nobility.
These Jewish nationalists (Zionists) gathered in Basel, Switzerland in 1897 and turned to England – the most powerful country at the time – for help establishing a homeland in Palestine.
The Ottoman government took certain measures against this movement, which threatened its territorial integrity. It feared that the law of 1869, which allowed foreigners to buy land in the Ottoman country, except for the Hijaz, on condition of reciprocity, would be abused….
In 1881, the Jews who faced the pogrom in Russia wanted to immigrate to Palestine en masse...
From 1882, the Rothschilds began to buy land in Palestine on behalf of others.The Rothschilds, who had international power as they lent money to all governments, wanted the refugee Russian Jews to be allowed to settle in these lands. The embassies intervened. The Ottoman government was confused as to what to do. The first Jewish colony was established in Jaffa that same year, despite not having been granted permission. By 1918, one-twentieth of Palestine’s fertile lands belonged to the Rothschilds….
Sure doesn’t sound like the Arabs hated the Jews back then does it? Also notice these were Russian Jews and likely were of Kazarian blood.
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THE BALFOUR DECLARATION
Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor who first met in a pub near Glasgow University, document WWI history. It is a site that looks worth exploring.
…A file in the U.S. State Department, ‘Bolshevism and Judaism’, dated November 13, 1918, asserted that there could be no doubt that the ‘Jewish Firm’ Kuhn, Loeb & Company and its partners ‘started and engineered’ the revolution in Russia. The report added that Max Warburg had also financed Trotsky, and that Olof Aschberg and Nya Banken were involved. [9] These were key players whose detailed involvement we have already covered in previous blogs. [10]
Jacob Schiff, who had been promoting anti-Czarist activities in Russia since the Russo-Japanese War more than a decade earlier, paid for a large proportion of the pro-Bolshevik propaganda and bribes for the workers and soldiers in the Petrograd garrison in the run up to both the February and October, 1917, revolutions. Professor Antony Sutton believed that it was a mistake to call the Bolshevik Revolution a Jewish plot because gentiles like J.P. Morgan and William Boyce Thompson were also involved, [11] but Thompson was a loyal Morgan man and J.P. Morgan and the entire Morgan Empire were very firmly connected to Rothschild influence. [12]….
Before 2 November 1917 no public position had been taken on the future of Palestine by any government. Thereafter there was a proposal from Lloyd George’s British government, approved by President Wilson in America, to support the establishment of a Jewish homeland under certain conditions. But the future of Palestine had been included in three radically different commitments secretly made by the British government to the French, the Arabs and the Jews. The French could be bought-off with Syria. The Arabs, well they were considered a lesser race by the Secret Elite and, it was presumed, could be led down a different path. The Jews, by that time described as Zionists, offered a very interesting opportunity. Key inner-circle members of the Secret Elite believed that the Empire’s strategic security would be greatly enhanced by a Jewish Palestine which owed its existence to Britain. These Zionists could be useful…
Baron Edmond de Rothschild in Paris was the first of the nineteenth-century Rothschilds to help Russian victims of the vile pogroms to emigrate to Palestine between 1881-2. Throughout the pre-war years, he acquired and supported several communities in Palestine. By 1903 nineteen out of twenty-eight Jewish settlements in Palestine were subsidised partly or wholly by him. It was claimed that Edmond’s commitment was not aimed at the creation of a Jewish state. [1] That is convenient, for once the First World War was underway, it was he who urged Weizmann to seize the opportunity to establish a Jewish Palestine. [2]
…evidence from which we have analysed the Balfour Declaration stands testament to a different truth. It was Walter Rothschild who allegedly drafted and redrafted letters to foreign secretary Balfour in 1917. [6] Be mindful that the Declaration passed through at least 5 drafts. At the very least, if say, Weizmann drafted these letters in Walter’s name, it had the Rothschild signature. Walter opposed the idea that power in Palestine might be shared between Britain and France and, Weizmann claimed, believed that Palestine must become a British Protectorate.…
👉How could any Power which claimed to have gone to war to protect the rights of small self-determining nations bring a non-existent ‘country’ to an international conference and claim it had greater rights to recognition than others?👈
The first step was the British government’s Declaration of intent to support the establishment of a ‘homeland’. An outburst of international and orchestrated approval certainly helped. But there had to be a more tangible basis; proof positive that there was a just cause.
This was the reason behind the Zionist Commission sent to the ‘Holy Land’ in 1918 👉to reassure the Arabs that no-one intended them harm.👈
It aimed to lend credibility to the Zionist claims; give Zionists some right to be heard when the world was redivided at the end of the war. And all of this timely enterprise was orchestrated through the Rothschild influence.
In addition, membership of the Secret Elite began to change in a subtle manner to which Carroll Quigley made no overt reference. Perhaps a better word might be partnership. As economic power increasingly flowed through the Morgan – Rothschild – Rockefeller – Kuhn Lowe axis in the United States, political alliances began to firm around key issues … like Palestine, but why did they go to such extraordinary lengths to realise a mythistory? The Brandeis – Weizmann connection was reflected in the Balfour-Lansing understandings. In other words, the Zionist aims metamorphosed into British and American foreign policy. The Anglo-American Establishment began to slowly readjust its position. In a sense, the drive for one world government moved towards a shared trans-Atlantic agenda that would become clearer in the coming decades...
So in the beginning of the establishment of Israel, the Arabs were made promises including “…no-one intended them harm…” Remember from the last article, “…The Britishclaimed that their sole interest in the affair was the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire andhad given their word that these Arab territories would be freed and allowed independence if they agreed to rebel..” And on May 14, 1948, Israel was officially declared an independent state.
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TANTURA MASSACRE:
This the history of an Arab fishing village after the 1947 UN Partition Plan for Palestine.
“…Over the years, the release of classified documents has further confirmed Palestinian accounts of the countless massacres perpetrated by Zionist paramilitary groups and Israeli soldiers…”LINK
This is the tale of a CENSORED Israeli Grad student and a filmmaker.
Filmmaker Alon Schwarz challenges Israel’s narrative about the 1948 massacre of a Palestinian village
…A quarter of a century ago, an Israeli graduate student studying the impacts of the Nakba on several villages near Haifa found himself talking with Israeli veterans who openly detailed their role in a massacre….
Schwarz was initially working on a different documentary about human rights activists from Israeli NGOs opposing the occupation, when he met Katz, and decided to listen to the personal testimonies of murder and rampage conducted by Zionist militia members recorded on Katz’s tapes.
Among the interviews he would have heard is the testimony of an Alexandroni militiaman who took part in the Tantura raid: “Some of these young soldiers I remember – it’s not nice to say – they put [the Palestinian villagers] in a barrel and shot at the barrel, and I remember the blood in the barrel.”
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TO BE CONTINUED…
However I want to leave this topic with the following:
Documentary: “All Wars Are Bankers Wars” Explores a Common Central Banking Connection Behind America’s Wars
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Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:
chanticleer
noun
a rooster
a cock, so called from the clearness or loudness of his voice in crowing
a name for a rooster, used in medieval fables
Shown in art which is then shown in a picture
MUSIC!
Somewhere between Wheatie Music (TM) and Gregorian Chants, lies this stuff.
Nice. I like it!
THE STUFF
Ever wondered about black holes not just “bigger than a breadbox”, but sized somewhere between normal stellar-sized black holes, and the giant ones at the centers of galaxies?
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This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:
irrelate
adjective
unrelated
irrelative
unconnected
not associated
not connected by kinship or marriage
MUSIC!
How about some REAL country? Vintage, but still awesome.
Oh, that is…..
THE STUFF
Nobody gets excited about LEAD any more. Well, heck, at least one person does. Just had to share.
Of course lead is special! That’s why it needs to be in a safe – along with the gunpowder, the gold, the rhodium, and the EMP-proof incandescent light bulbs!
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Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Big News!
Two of our newest authors are going to have regular columns in our daily opens every week!
On WEDNESDAYS, Gail Combs will be presenting her evidence-packed deep dives and analyses, which have proven to be a thorn in the side of the enemy. This will be especially important as the November Presidential Election approaches. Depoppers, Caballists, Marxists, globalists, pedophiles, satanists, Fabians and other brands of social destroyers are going to have a BAD HAIR DAY every Wednesday, and I’m there for it!!!
Bring Your Own Camels!!!
On FRIDAYS, PAVACA will be presenting a weekly post related to health, particularly vaccines, pharmaceuticals, BIG PHARMA, nutrition, diet, and all things medical. We will NOT be going into another “plandemic” without some serious brain-power in opposition to the madness, and that opposition will be coming STRONGLY from this site. HEALTHY FRIDAYS are going to be a thing!
AND – in honor of the past – if people want to bring a drink or two – for medicinal purposes, of course – trust that Wolf Moon approves!
Thus, please welcome Gail Combs and PAVACA to regular authorship in the daily opens!
I am deeply grateful for their help. This is the Lord’s work. While we ARE a church here, and not an unimportant one, Deplorable Patriot directly serves our God by singing for some far bigger and very important congregations. It is critical that she spend more time with those believers, and not be run ragged by 4 nights a week of posts on this site. Thus, I am extremely grateful to Gail and CV for stepping up, thereby allowing DePat to bring her talents to the believers of St. Louis. You have made a difference, ladies! BRAVA!!
a portable reed organ of the 16th and 17th centuries
Shown in pictures
MUSIC!
How about some music played on a regal?
Nice.
THE STUFF
Imagine the very long Oppenheimer movie distilled down to just 30 minutes of video that you can stand, without all the interesting but potentially distracting and boring story details that many people can’t abide.
What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
Speaker Johnson Pinging you on January 6 Tapes
Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?
We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)
Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)
Justice Must Be Done.
The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.
Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.
Small Government?
Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.
This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.
No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.
World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.
So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.
Political Science In Summation
It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).
His Truth?
Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.
I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.
But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.
Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.
But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.
Lawyer Appeasement Section
OK now for the fine print.
This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines, here, with an addendum on 20191110.
We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights 2. No running with scissors. 3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. 4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns. 5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded. 5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty. 6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy. 7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. 8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
Silver up nicely, palladium higher than platinum again (platinum is on effing sale, people), but all that pales in comparison to the big news which is:
GOLD BUSTED $2500 ON FRIDAY. Up $51.40 on Friday alone, yes, we’re over 2500 “ferns” (FEderal Reserve Notes) on gold.
The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) stands at 121.357+. [Edit: 120.357+…I forgot to subtract 1]. (This index is the ratio between the price of gold today, versus the value of the dollar defined as dollars per ounce when we had the gold standard, minus 1 (so that an index of 0 means the dollar is at its original value and doesn’t suck at all). I use that clumsy phrasing because the dollar was defined as a certain amount of gold, such that an ounce of gold was $20.672. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.672 back then, it was $20.672.)
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This is the second article looking at the Trump Assassination Attempt. I realize the videos are a bit ‘stale.’ At this point however I am not trying to analyze the videos, I am trying to take a look at the players presenting the videos and giving you additional information to think about.
I will however add the most recent from the local LEOs plus the article from Fox that TT put up on Aug 9.
🚨 #BREAKING: Newly revealed audio captured by a Butler, PA officer’s bodycam shows the Secret Service was REPEATEDLY warned DAYS IN ADVANCE they needed to cover the roof of the AGR building.
USSS then said they’d post guys there, which was a LIE.
New footage just released helps fill in timeline moments before assassin Thomas Crooks opened fire Video shows a police officer being hoisted to the roof of the AGR building, interrupting Crooks just seconds before he started shooting.
Important Points and Times to Note in the following video:
Body cam footage starts at 18:10:30 (6:10 PM)
0:24 – The local Leo is hoisted up on the roof.
He runs to his car and by 1:22 he opens his car door assembles his rifle.
2:04 – He leaves the car with rifle.
2:15 – In the background radio says, “we have 2 civilians attending to him” so shooter has already wounded someone.
3:35 – Cops use a shed on the loading dock plus a pallet to climb up to the roof to look, while cop describes what he saw.
4:10 – Cop says, watch out he can come right down on you right there and then goes on to direct them to a different building.
4:30 – The LEOs say something about ambulance service to the stands in the background.
5:12 – You can see a cop in cameo STANDING on the roof. 5:15 – In the background radio says, “Call ambulance to VIP tent.”
5:30 – In the background radio says, “LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS.” shouted.
5:50 – Then radio says, “We have a unit on the roof.”
6:04 – You can see 3 guys on the roof.
And by 6:34 the locals have hoisted the SAME cop BACK UP on the roof after he gets his rife.
NOTICE HE DID NOT FALL, AND HE DID NOT HURT HIS HAND, AND HE DID NOT GO INTO THE BATHROOM. Also there were ALREADY cops on the roof when he got up there the second time.
🚨BOMBSHELL BUTLER, PA BODYCAM FOOTAGE 🚨
New footage just released helps fill in timeline moments before assassin Thomas Crooks opened fire
Video shows a police officer being hoisted to the roof of the AGR building, interrupting Crooks just seconds before he started shooting pic.twitter.com/kTUo5sEGXs
Police bodycam footage obtained by Fox News Digital on Thursday through a records request shows two officers attempting to intercept Thomas Matthew Crooks on a roof seconds before he allegedly tried to assassinate former President Trump at a campaign rally last month.
The footage is taken from two officers from the Butler Township Police Department who made a desperate attempt to stop Crooks moments before he fired his DPMS AR-15 rifle, striking Trump in the ear, killing Corey Comperatore and injuring two others.
“F—ing this close, bro. Dude, he turned around on me,” the officer who was hoisted can be heard saying later on in bodycam video released Thursday.
One officer can be seen hoisting another officer onto the roof where Crooks was stationed, which is about 12 feet above the ground.
Crooks pointed his weapon at the officer who scaled the building, before the officer ultimately ducks his head and loses his grip on the roof’s edge and falls about 8 feet to the ground, spraining his ankle, Butler Township Manager Thomas Knights previously told Fox News Digital.
The footage captures Crooks toward the end as officers surround his body after countersnipers fatally shot him.
“I’m f—ing p—ed. We couldn’t find him,” another officer can be heard saying in the bodycam footage.
“Before you motherf—ers came up here, I popped my head up there like an idiot by myself, dude,” the officer who was boosted onto the roof says. “Then he turned around and I f—ing dropped, and I started f—ing, I was calling out, ‘Bro, f—ing on top of the roof.’ F—ing, we’re not on the same frequency?”
Butler Township PD Lt. Matthew Pearson told a local outlet that the officer was unable to draw his weapon since he was hanging from the building.
Seconds later, Crooks opened fire and grazed Trump’s right ear. Three rallygoers were also shot, including Comperatore, 50, who was killed protecting his family from danger.
Additional footage from the Butler Township police department shows officers immediately after Crooks was neutralized…
In other bodycam video, officers are clearly confused about why the roof of the American Glass Research (AGR) building, where Crooks shot from, was unmanned.
“I thought you were on the roof?” one officer says.
“Why were we not on the roof…why weren’t we?”
—Officer in police-worn bodycam footage
“If you’d all had a gun up there … I’d have shot him. He wouldn’t have ripped out a gun up there,” one officer says in the bodycam.
“I’d say this is a f— up…somebody f—ed up.”
…The FBI previously revealed that Crooks had driven to the rally site at 11 a.m. on the day of the shooting and spent an hour there before heading home.
Crooks did not return to the scene until 3:50 p.m. Local law enforcement officers, in their designated positions, spotted him for the first time around 5:10 p.m. — approximately 50 minutes before
Trump took the stage, according to documents obtained by Fox News Digital from Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who obtained them from the Beaver County Emergency Services Unit (ESU).
On his return to the rally site, Crooks flew a drone about 200 yards away from where Trump was going to be speaking, according to the FBI. The FBI later said that no photos or videos were taken from the drone and that the agency found no memory card in the drone…
At 5:30 p.m., local law enforcement snapped a picture of Crooks and escalated it to command.
👉“Kid learning around building we are in,” an officer wrote in a text message, along with an image of Crooks. “AGR I believe it is. I did see him with a range finder looking towards stage. FYI. If you wanna notify SS snipers to look out.”
“I lost sight of him,” the officer added.
A follow-up message said: “Call it in to command and have a uniform check it out.”
By 6:12 p.m., the “kid” would be killed by a counter-sniper
On the day of the rally, Crooks parked his vehicle and flew a drone between about 3:50 p.m. and 4 p.m. about 200 yards from where the former president would be speaking on July 13.
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified during a July 17 congressional hearing that Crooks had been at the rally site for about 70 minutes the morning of the assassination attempt.
Fox News Digital is reviewing the bodycam footage. This post will be updated.
“false flags” usually precede severe military actionand we couldn’t really imagine military action within US domestic borders since the military is not empowered to act against its own citizens.
Therefore, we decided to WAKE UP and study the false flag phenomena. Don’t presume to think this is just another conspiracy theory article. What you will read will chill you to the bone….
It looks like some lawyers are doing some digging into the ‘STANDING’ issue. I added the bold and pointers.
[QUOTE] Article III of the U.S. Constitution sets four jurisdictional limits applicable to federal courts, which can impact or limit whether a party can bring their case through the federal court system. If any of the justiciability doctrines apply to a case, a federal court cannot adjudicate, i.e., decide it. The four justiciability doctrines applicable to federal courts are as follows:
Ripeness refers to whether a party has brought a case that is too early to adjudicate. For example, suppose a plaintiff files a case regarding an injury that has yet to occur. In that case, the courts may not have jurisdiction to hear it.
Mootness refers to whether the case involves an actual controversy. For example, the case is moot if the parties enter into a settlement agreement.
The political question doctrine renders a case nonjusticiable when the Constitution vests power to address the issue in either the legislative or executive branch. 👉Courts analyze six factors when determining whether a case involves a political question. 👈
The standing requirements refer to whether the proper party filed the lawsuit. Generally speaking, a plaintiff must have a “personal stake” in a case’s outcome to have standing.
To have standing to bring suit in federal court, the plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact” (or is in immediate danger of sustaining an injury). This means the defendant’s actions caused the plaintiff’s injury, and the court can redress the injury.
This article describes Article III’s standing requirements. It also discusses how the Supreme Court has interpreted the requirements over time….
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I think this the the crux of the matter:
….Over the years, our cases have established that the irreducible constitutional minimum of standing contains three elements. First, the plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact” – an invasion of a legally-protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized, see id., at 756; Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 508 (1975); Sierra Club v. Morton, 405 U.S. 727, 740 -741, n. 16 (1972);
conjectural' orhypothetical,’” Whitmore, supra, at 155 (quoting Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U.S. 95, 102 (1983)).
Second, there must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of – the injury has to be “fairly . . . trace[able] to the challenged action of the defendant, 👉
and not . . . th[e] result [of] the 𝗶
I𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁.“👈Simon v. Eastern K.
Welfare [504 U.S. 555, 561] Rights Organization, 426 U.S. 26, 41 -42 (1976). Third, it must be “likely,” as opposed to merely “speculative,” that the injury will be “redressed by a favorable decision.” Id., at 38, 43.
The party invoking federal jurisdiction bears the burden of establishing these elements. See FW/PBS, Inc. v. Dallas, 493 U.S. 215, 231 (1990); Warth, supra, at 508. Since they are not mere pleading requirements, but rather an indispensable part of the plaintiff’s case, each element must be supported in the same way as any other matter on which the plaintiff bears the burden of proof, i.e., with the manner and degree of evidence required at the successive stages of the litigation…
So you would have to connect the ‘independent action’ of the shooter TO the US government ALLOWING him the opportunity to kill. It ALLOWS the FBI, DHS and Secret Service a very nice OUT, as long as you can not connect Crooks or Yerick TO the government directly. So yes, FALSE FLAGS ARE LEGAL if the US government gives bad actors the opportunity to act. As the Supreme Court has ruled before THERE IS NO DUTY TO PROTECT! LINK
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Remember the government scuttlebutt about Iran targeting Trump???
And now they have hauled out a ‘suspect’ for us to look at… HOW CONVENIENT.
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As I said in the last article, the rabbit I was chasing turned into a multi-headed hydra. I can not do the scientific measurements necessary to figure out what actually happened. We CERTAINLY can not trust the FBI or Josh Shapiro’s State Troopers to do the analysis for us. That leaves trying to figure out what happened from all the different stories that hit the internet.
RABBIT HOLE #1
THE MYSTERIOUS CASE OF THE INCREASING NUMBER OF SHELL CASINGS
Comment from: “Sifting and Winnowing”: Evidence in the False Flag Trump Shooting
This is exactly what I remember and then it was changed to 8. Yukon Jack is shouted down by the other commenters BTW.
So why five casings?
1 Trump’s ear.
2 Victim James Copenhaver
1? Victim Corey Comperatore
1? Victim David Dutch
So the FBI forgot the one that struck the railing and the one that struck the hydrolytic line. They also did not think audio analysis would be done. So voila! 8 casings. How convenient!
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RABBIT HOLE #2
THE ‘EXPLOSIVE’ COPENHAVER VIDEO
This is what was actually said by the Attorney for victim James Copenhaver: video (6:30)
At 0:35 sec to 1:20 Attorney says:
“…The first injury was to his arm.. No one knew what was going on right away…a flesh wound… he mentioned to me everyone was focused on what Trump was talking about.. and were turned to the screen… at that time he had almost heard or even seen something whiz past him which we are assuming was a bullet. He had look at his arm and kinda felt it. He did not realize he had been shot a second time, shock?, pandamonium…”Fox News Video link
Any bets that HIS phone was also confiscated by the FBI? And now everything is being filtered thru a lawyer….
I am reminded of all of Trump’s lawyers that are now being disbarred….
I am reminded of the Seth Rich family AFTER the FBI confiscated all Seth’s devices…. AND their big payoff. (Carrot and STICK.)
Why is it always FOX news that does the big pay offs. First Dominion and then the Seth Rich family. A wee bit of money laundering maybe?
I find it JUST TOO convenient to have a video of Crooks the shooter running around on the roof. It is interesting that both Mike Adams, Dr . Chris Martenson and even Wolfie were backing the classic ‘Lone Gunman’ after it first came out. And now we have the body cam footage. Please keep this question mark about this video in mind. I will be coming back to it further on.
HOWEVER if the FBI did not fiddle with the video, Commenter WSB August 3, 2024 brings up another point.
I saw the video by Copenhaver positioned from behind PT yesterday, where one can actually see two people on that roof.
The original one is the person who runs across the roof, but to the left is another person deep in shadow. Under what looks like a red boom arm…under an overhang. Fairly easy to see.
The second point of interest is the Stewart videos that are the basis of so much evidence. Dave Stewart aka Dayve Stewert aka RealDJStew724 did several videos and they are HERE.
I can not do the type of analysis Mike Adams and Dr . Chris Martenson can, however I did find a few interesting nuggets in this particular video. I put a cleaned up copy of part of the transcript at the bottom. I also included who was speaking and conversation that was not captured by the automatic transcriber.
Trump Rally – 07/13/24 FINAL Footage + BONUS! Interrogation audio!
Interesting Parts of the You Tube Transcript:
Dayve Stewert [written comment]:
I was sitting in my car, in a gas station parking lot with my front sun-shade up for about 45 minutes when I noticed a PSP trooper at my window. I started recording audio form a new phone that I bought specifically for this. When I take my sun-shade down, I see that a PSP cruiser has my car blocked in.
Starting part way into the video
Trooper: so you began this conversation saying something about a a second shooter ?
Dayve Stewert: yeah because when we were first ducking behind the uh. When they moved us all from the back of the AGR building, and Homeland Security and the other guy with the long gun moved us over to the Township police car uh to take cover there, the the door was open and we could hear the radio communications. and uh they said shooter dead on the roof and then they said uh we breach the building there’s blood in the bathroom. Second shooter on the loose. So because like if the guy climbed the building and shot from there, like how was there blood found inside of a bathroom inside that building? So there had have been a second shooter right? That got shot or something.
Trooper: um You got moved to another building by who?
Dayve Stewert: Moved to another area by Homeland Security. I got the Cuffs taken from behind me to the front by Homeland Security and then when we got moved over to Township. Township police were like Dave? And I’m like yeah, Please take These Cuffs off me and they took the Cuffs off me. And then they moved us across the street and then they were like this is even a horrible spot over here if the dude wants to shoot out the windows. Get in the trunk of our car over here and we’ll drive you to the farm show.
Trooper: Okay, So what was it that you overheard on the radio?
Dayve Stewert:That there was uh shooter dead on the roof. And then they were clearing the building and they found blood in the bathroom. And they said a second suspect at large or something like that or whatever. I don’t know but blood was found in the bathroom remember that for sure cuz that’s what had us freaked out. Because that’s what the cops are telling us . Like hey the second shooter still around here so like let’s move from this point over to this point where it’s safer. And then they’re like well it’s not safe over here. Let’s take you over here.
Trooper: So you didn’t actually see any um potential second shooter.
Dayve Stewert: No, I assume the red truck guy . Cuz what I thought was when the shots were going off. I thought it was the red truck guy shooting us for being along his fence….
As I said before this gives us a glimpse of the various players. The local LEOS, Homeland Security as part of Secret Service and the PA State Troopers. The FBI/PA State Troopers come out looking very smelly. Also we have an eye witness overhearing the locals talk about HAVING TO BREAK INTO THE BUILDING, POSSIBLY SHOOTING FROM A WINDOW, BLOOD in the bathroom, and a SECOND SHOOTER.
If the locals were the snipers WHY did they have to break into the building?
More below. Where the Trooper says the FBI say they have video of Dave talking to the shooter. Dave wants to see the video and the cop does a dance. Remember cops are allowed to LIE to you. You are not allowed to lie to them.
RABBIT HOLE # 3
JOHN CULLEN/CLAY MARTIN VIDEO ON TOMMY’S PODCAST
This is where the rabbit turns into a werebeast with lots of heads and fangs!
My starting place is the John Cullen video Multiple Shooters? | John Cullen & Clay Martin on Tommy’s Podcast.
One of the first people NAMED is Mike Glover. So a quick dig on this guy:
The showed clips from this:
Inside Information on What Actually Happened | Former SWAT and PSD Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVn_56UcCIc
Mike Glover’s Fieldcraft Survival channel (25 min) He spent 20 yrs as LEO and protective Detail Member. He is a former Green Beret and CIA contractor. He says was a member of the CIA Global Response Staff Office in Islamabad Pakistan.. [See Trailer] He says he has info from friends inside the Secret Service. What really happened and who took the shot at crooks.
Partial Transcript:
….I’ll say this, whenever you’re running a security detail right, the first thing that we start with is what we call protective intelligence. And that’s before the mission even starts. You’re building protective intelligence of the area, of potential threatening people. Personnel in the area, targets that are being investigated or watched by the FBI or whatever other organization. You build protective intelligence for potential advantage points, that is attack sites Etc and then you go and do an advance generally speaking.
Now I will tell you right now, via inside information , there was not an advance done on those outer buildings due to Personnel financial and time constraints The agency, and this is where [the] fault [is]
Look people, actions have consequences and when you start dumbing down our military, dumbing down our law enforcement, creating what’s they [call] the diversity hiring standards, 👉pulling funding, cutting budgets,👈 these all have consequences. The fact of the matter is the Trump detail did request additional help, not specifically even for this event, but have been and they were denied not out of spite not out of we want to see Trump go down out of Financial and Personnel restrictions. All right, unfortunately Trump is not in the line of succession right now. So the majority of the resources of Secret Service go to those who are in the succession of the presidency. The current president, the vice president, etc etc. Now people are saying oh they they didn’t have enough support and they denied support for this event. Actually they requested additional support and they were given that by the Secret Service. This is the first time and again this is inside information this is the first time that the Trump detail actually had two counter sniper teams because they knew his movement, his visibility, his profile has been increasing, and this is the first time they actually supported with two not just one counter sniper team and I will tell you this with what we’re about to get into it it paid off and probably saved his life…
Excuse me but this Gaslighter is Full of Bull Schiff and an excellent example of a limited hangout. He gives SOME good info before he feeds you the Bull Shiff sandwich.
“… Educate you in all things preparedness virtually but that is just the beginning. Fieldcrafts tie in strategy is collaborating through physical spaces. In what we call fieldcraft fire bases and outposts. A Firebase will be a fieldcraft owned entity that will be in your backyard. Starting with Phoenix AZ, Dallas-Fort Worth TX, Denver CO, Kalispell, MT and obviously in our headquarters in Provo UT… Our business is not about monetization, it is about 👉Social Equity👈 and Capital. That is the focus for us…”
So that is the first stinky fish data point.
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Then we come to the next person mentioned by Cullen as someone he is working with, Jason Goodman.
And that is NOT just a stinky fish it is a Architeuthis Dux aka Giant Squid!
...Why was John Rupkalvis, technical genius, assigned to Jason Goodman? We have no idea. Nothing qualifies Goodman for this level of attention or training. Check out Rupkalvis’s bio: https://www.docdroid.net/RHsEGvM/stereoscope-john-rupkalvis.pdf
Anyone who has been following the Jason Goodman story and his attempts to silence a number of people on YouTube… are aware that Goodman speaks fluent Russian. He has been very active in promoting ‘fake’ intelligence agendas by interviewing ‘guests’ with questionable origins. He has had a confirmed FBI informant [George Webb??? or that worked with him to incite ‘crowd hysteria’ which actually closed down the Port of Charleston in June 2017. People need to understand that there are foreign nationals who actively support propaganda on YouTube channels….
On a side note, John Rupkalvis is also interesting. He taught at RIT. I lived in the area in the 1970s and it was WELL KNOWN locally that it was run by the CIA. (RIT had very good courses BTW. That is why I took courses there.)
From his bio, Rupkalvis, is a BIG DEAL. So why would a guy located in Burbanks CA, teach at a little known school like RIT located near Rochester NY?
WIKI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_Institute_of_Technology RIT has collaborated with many industry players in the field of research as well, including IBM,[87] Xerox,[88] Rochester’s Democrat and Chronicle,[89] Siemens,[90] NASA,[91][92] and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
University of Minnesota B.A. Degree University of Minnesota: Guest Lecturer, Video Systems U.S.C. (University of Southern California), Cinema Dept., Certificate U.S.C. Guest Lecturer, Special Effects 1982-1984 Winona School of Professional Photography, P.P.A. Certificate Control Data Institute, Computer Technology, Certificate Rochester Institute of Technology, Guest Lecturer Minneapolis Art Institute, Certificate, Guest Lecturer Bell & Howell School of Professional Cinematography, Certificate Institute for Graphic Communication, Certificate, Guest Lecturer Pasadena City College, Guest Lecturer
MORE on RIT… AND the CIA:
Co-op Coordinator, reports favorably on a 31 March recruiting visit to Rochester Institute of Technology. An impressive group of computer service and engineering students was interviewed, and six were encouraged to submit applications. Rochester Institute of Technology is one of the schools where we have enjoyed a long and fruitful Co-op relationship. – CIA Reading Room
GEE, we have the FBI confiscating phones with videos including the Copenhaver video. AND we have a disciple of a WORLD CLASS Cinematographer who has a possible CIA connection. A disciple who speaks Russian (another CIA asset?)AND he is involved with analyzing the videos. NAH, nothing fishy smelling here.
On Wednesday, we got new evidence of the potential real-world consequences as a trio of conspiracy theorists with a modest following inadvertently shut down part of one of the United States’ largest ports.
The theory: a cargo ship with a “dirty bomb” was just outside of Charleston, South Carolina…
During the broadcast, conspiracy theorist George Webb initially claimed a “source” had told him that there was “a dirty bomb planned for a major city.” …His “source” had “talked to five different sources,” he said, adding that his source “had to drive there [to meet other sources] without cell phones.” Webb went on to say of his source, “he’s been right every time.”…
George Webb Sweigert has parted ways with Crowd Source The Truth over some interesting allegations. Crowd Source The Truth was founded by Jason Goodman.
He had partnered with George Webb Sweigert and Trish Negron [aka Trish the for quite a few months. George Webb Sweigert is famous or infamous depending on your viewpoint of calling in a false alarm dirty bomb report earlier this year. He claimed that his “sources” told him a dirty bomb was on the Maersk line in Charleston, South Carolina.
This ended up being completely false. However, not too long afterwards, George Webb Sweigert was arrested not necessarily for a Driving Under the Influence charge but something similar…Now fast forward to today, and Jason Goodman claims that George Webb Sweigert was intoxicated during some of their broadcasts….Jason Goodman has direct connections to hollyweird, I mean hollywood…
Jason Goodman is now involved as Defendant in two lawsuits in the Southern District of New York. The Emmys are suing his company 21C3D for stealing their intellectual property for clicks and subs, with some defamation thrown in; and George Webb’s brother is suing him for defamation and violating New York business law with deceptive conduct involving bots and fake viewers.
The corporate suit from the Emmys forced Jason to employ a lawyer. Despite his self-positioning as a “lawfare expert” and surrounding himself with such colorful attorneys as Alan Dershowitz, Larry Klayman and the Becks, he seems to have picked another kooky A.I. guy John Hoover Snyder…
George announced that he is once again setting out on his own to continue his investigation into the Clinton criminal network, the Awan Brothers and DNC controversies.
The announcement comes on the heels of a tumultuous few weeks where the pair had been under substantial criticism for introducing a DNC thumb drive which they claimed had new information pertaining to illegal activities inside the DNC in part related to the murder of Seth Rich…
George [Webb] has dropped clues that he may be Mossad months ago when he said he was a ‘zionist’ and he was the one who said he had connections to ‘Mossad’. He revealed himself, probably to minimize the damage to his character if it were to be revealed by an outside source, so that’s not saying he’s completely honest but he has also admitted when he has made mistakes in the passed and made corrections…
AND it gets even weirder, if that is possible AND develops another head… or two or three or four!
This is written by a “…a supporter of the Pro-Trump #QAnon Information Warfare operation (aka psyop) from the beginning…” He went head to head with Bill Gates in the market place and HATES HIS GUTS!
…Jason Goodman and George Webb named their Port of Charleston LARP “Clear and Present Danger” after a Clancy/Pieczenik novel. It contained elements that Jerome Corsi had written about in his 2005 book “Atomic Iran” and narratives relating to South Carolina that Lindsay Graham had previously promoted on the Alex Jones show.
The impression I got was that Alex had to have Jason Goodman on his show to talk about topics that Jones had previously been told to stay away from. It seems like it was all part of the mission, and Alex is a loyal officer in the Info War. That’s an observation, not a criticism.
Why was Jason chosen to deliver this message from Dershowitz?
Is Goodman being groomed as the new “go to guy” for Deep State scandals? A smooth fixer who can be relied on to muddy the waters, divert the narrative in directions away from the core?
As a side note, these two articles sent me looking at possible Israeli connections.
…I held off on reporting it because, even though it claims to be disclosure, it is still written by a Rockefeller, and so, I decided caution was the best course of action when dealing with it. But I’ll present it, and you can decide for yourselves:
In his own words:
As the out-of-wedlock son of Nelson Rockefeller, I knew I could not be murdered without implicating my Uncle David Rockefeller and Donald Stralem, son of the co-founder in 1850 of Rothschild affiliate Hallgarten & Co., German-Jewish investment bankers that financed both sides in the Civil War.
Chapter 5 in his book goes into great detail about Jerome Corsi, who Mel outs as a Mossad agent…
Do not forget Steve Pieczenik (CIA) White Hat? Black Hat? whatever he is I think he is high up the 5th Generation Warfare chain.
“…Steve Pieczenik was born in Havana, Cuba of Eastern European Jewish parents fleeing the Holocaust, he was raised in France and in the United States…” LINK
NOVEMBER 1, 2016, ONE DAY LATER, perhaps relevant. On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 — a guy named Steve Pieczenik shows his face in public for the first time in 20 years. He has done radio commentary with only his 20 year old picture showing for the last 20 years — until now. He was in the intelligence community in the USA. It has long been rumored that there existed the “White Knights” — the relative good guys in the intelligence community, the military, and ex-military community. He announces, carried to millions on Alex Jones’ InfoWars.com and elsewhere, that veterans from 16 intelligence groups were undoing the coup that the Clintons were planning to pull off. He states that the counter-coup will stop Hillary from getting to the White House, that this is all being done on the internet without bloodshed, and it is an historic development, and that he was a small part of it, but had the privilege of announcing this counter-coup to the American public.
…Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik was introduced on Alex Jones’ show as a former U.S. Navy Captain, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Nixon, Ford and Carter, senior policy advisor under 👉Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and 👉James Baker. Also: “Dr. Pieczenik continues to consult the Department of Defense, received a 👉Council on Foreign Relations Fellowship where he was recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as deputy assistant secretary of state for management. In the position he 👉created the office of combat terrorism…
Dr. Pieczenik also stated on Jones’ show: “I was a deputy assistant secretary under Nixon, Ford…..and Carter. I resigned under Carter because I disagreed with the way he handled the hostage situation. I came back under Reagan to take down the Soviet Union and I came back under Bush, Sr. to work on Cambodia.” and “I went to Harvard and M.I.T. at the same time… I got a psychiatric degree at Harvard and a PhD in international affairs… I was trained in psychological warfare, propaganda, counter intelligence, counter terrorism — I went right into the state department working for Lawrence Eagleburger…”
It also contains a series of old newspaper clippings. One commenter in 2012 says he is concerned that Pieczenik thinks Jeb Bush would be a good president.
Dr. Steve Pieczenik, former CIA Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under five different administrations, shared the following in an urgent message to President Trump calling the current events “nothing more than a disguised coup by the CIA“. Dr. Pieczenik also claims “there is no such thing as a whistleblower in the CIA“.
Then he said this –
“There is no such thing as good Samaritan or whistleblower at the CIA. He should be fired and brought up for treason as well as any of the analysts.”
Enclosed VIDEO:
This is his Website and Youtube. His last correspondence was Oct 22, 2021 but Wiki does not show his death.
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Trump Assassination, Yearick & George Webb
Mal Antoni is tasked with transferring Twitter clips to Rumble and YouTube format due to so many who write in to Whatfinger News and complain that they refuse to view Twitter clips…
George Webb: Time to subpoena Beaver County Counter Sniper Team and Sheriff. (with decode) 3 min He mentions the blood and ladders.
The Question is, was Webb a for real investigative journalist that got played by Jason Goodman? Or is he a dis-info agent sent to muddy the waters?
Mar 12, 2017
…Accidental Journalist George Webb’s pseudonym was chosen in honor of Gary Webb, a prize-winning investigative reporter whose life was systematically destroyed after publishing his explosive Dark Alliance exposé in 1996. The series uncovered the CIA’s role in facilitating cocaine trafficking from Nicaragua to fund the Contra ‘Rebels,’ as well as the agency’s connection to the subsequent influx of crack in California’s minority neighborhoods during the 1980’s… — The Accidental Journalist: Part III by CrowdSourceTheTruth‘s Trish Negron aka Trish the Dish
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DAVE STEWART VIDEO & PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT.
someone else says HEAD SHOT…. silence
1 minute:
DAVE: [To a cop] The Secret Service guy already talked to me yeah he got my ID huh the Secret Service guy got my ID yeah the guy in the suit got my ID.
COP: Do not leave
DAVE: yeah I won’t I won’t.
DAVE: Well somebody told me to get the [ f__k ] out of here.
Cop: no you’re not going anywhere
Dave: All right yeah, Well one of your guys told me to get the [ f__k ] out of
here.
Dave to himself: Get the [ f__k ] out of here and then stay.
DAVE: Bro, I was in the middle of that [ s__t ] Up there.
Other person Dave is helping: Over my Head!
DAVE: Oh my God that’s crazy. yeah I was behind that tree right there. Get behind the tree. yep I got you bro I’m not I’m gonna stay here bro.
yep yeah yeah he wants you to stay. [To Cop] We’re staying bro we’re staying we’re we’re getting cover okay? I got your back bro don’t worry yeah don’t worry bro I got you. This is [ f__king ] crazy dude this is crazy.
Other Guy: They said he had an AK?
Dave: that’s Wild cuz it was popping off bro. Was he on that roof right there?
👉2:40: Other Guy: 👉No, he was inside.
At 3:04 shows a cop with a hand on the shoulder of a guy kneeling. he is wearing a bright yellow shirt and is holding a phone to his ear.
At 3:07-8 you hear a pop:
Other guy: Did you hear that?
DAVE: What’s that?
Cop: All of you that saw that, we are keeping you as a wittnesses.
DAVE: yeah yeah the Secret Service guy took a picture of my ID I already talked to him he told me just to get cover.
Cop: OK
DAVE to other guy: yeah yeah yeah don’t worry bro I I got your back I’m on your side don’t worry.
DAVE to cop: yeah I was just trying to get you know a picture of trump.
Other cop: Understand. Why like it’s tough to believe that right now though right.
DAVE to other guy: no no no I got you bro I got you yeah yeah I got you you’re cool we’re cool DAVE to other cop: bro I got family in law enforcement my sister’s a park ranger. yeah we’re cool military family.
Other cop:: a lot different now
DAVE to other cop: I got you situation just totally changed totally understood bro totally understood man. You got me out armed for sure I
Cop…
DAVE: I’m not even armed okay I got you yeah yeah I have a knife on me. Secret guy said it was cool. In my waistband front waistband front waistband it’s just a pocket knife bro yeah bro go cool cool
COP: You mind going to wait by the guy in the yellow shirt?
DAVE to other guy: yeah I got you bro.
DAVE to Cop: Well I figured the tree was better cover just in case dude’s still popping off man.
Cop: go go behind the vehicle then.
DAVE to Cop: [ s__t ] all right. [Walks toward vehicle]
DAVE to different Cop: all right this guy’s telling me to move over here. I got shot at too.
Cop: Are you sure?
Dave: I got shot at too. I got it on video.
Cop: Get behind this car.
Dave: yep yep.
Stranger: you a cop? you a cop?
Another Stranger to cop: No all the boys on my hockey team are Cops.
Dave to cop: I got family law enforcement too I I got yeah I’m on your side bro.
At 4:40 you can hear the police radio in the background.
Dave: That was crazy you want him he got yeah he back he’s all right yeah sir come here sir back here he’s cool he’s cool bro my friend come
5:16: Dave: Here my, friend my friend come here. [To old white haired guy walking towards Dave from near the water tower] that guy don’t listen.
5:23 you can see the water tower. it is NOT FAR.
5:33 Dave: right here right here yeah
Cop: put your phone down.
Cop 3: John I seen him come across here. I come over as fast as I could to get the guy, but he was then, he ducked over there and I couldn’t see him
Other Cop 4: on the roof?
Cop 3: We couldn’t get on the roof.
Cop 4: all right
Other Cop to person: Yeah we’re just going to clear this up I don’t know if you’re involved or
Person: I’m not involved I’m not involved.
Another voice: That guy said he was shot at in the white shirt.
Dave: I got the I got the shooting on video I got all the shots on video I was recording Trump coming out everything I got it all on video tight yeah yep he’s got video
Yeah and this guy over here in the white…
6:09 [END VIDEO portion at the Trump Rally.]
RECOVERING CELL PHONE SEVERAL DAYS LATER:
10:07 pm ON 7/18
I was sitting in my car, in a gas station parking lot with my front sun-shade up for about 45 minutes when I noticed a PSP trooper at my window. I started recording audio form a new phone that I bought specifically for this. When I take my sun-shade down, I see that a PSP cruiser has my car blocked in.
State Troopers block him in. Trooper Glasco Troop D of PA State Police is talking to him on behalf of the FBI.
8:33
Trooper: You know everything that happened that day I know someone briefly talked to you and then they kind of grabbed your phone and said hey we’ll be back to talk to you later right?
Dave: It didn’t go down like that.
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah your one of your boys grabbed grabbed my hat off my head threw it on the ground stomped on it said get your stupid [ F__king ] hat off your head threw me to the ground made me cry and while I was crying he said why you crying you little [ b__h ] And I said cuz I they were [ F__king ] shooting at me. That little short one whatever [ F__king ] guy you have there. It was one of the plane Clothes ones that was one of three. The day after I went in there about 2 o’clock
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, as soon as he came out the door I walked right the [ f__k ] out.
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, Tell that guy he’s an [ asshole] for for me tell him yeah from me yep
Trooper: um do you do you recall like did were you actually attending?
Dave: I was at Sheetz. I was at work until 4:30
Trooper: …so when you get off work you just decided to hang out at the fence?
Dave: hell yeah
Trooper: And then you like the view so you didn’t even bother trying to get in?
Dave: No no no why yeah why why would I why would I go try to get in when I had the best one of the best seats in the house or so I thought. Turned out to be really shitty. My ears were ringing man.
Trooper: um have you heard anything I mean obviously you don’t have a TV
Dave: I haven’t had TV in 20 years that shit will rot your brain bro this is kind of a blurry photo but uh
Trooper: Do you recall seeing this guy ever?
Dave: no no. But what about the uh the red truck Guy? The one that was shooing, trying to shoo us away from the building. The one who was causing fights. Trying to fight us all like an hour before Trump arrived.
Trooper: Tell me about that
Dave: Well there was a guy in a red truck. uh Probably early to mid uh 2000s. Ford Ranger, single cab, bright red. uh White guy older 50s maybe almost 60. Salt and pepper hair, uh gray shirt, blue jeans. uh Coming up, uh telling everybody that he owned the building. uh That was his area, we were all trespassing, we needed to move away from the building. He was getting in people’s faces pointing his finger in Old guys’ faces um And then he he left pissed off got in his truck drove around the AGR building for like 20 seconds. And then drove drove back around and as he was getting out out of his truck he put something down his pants. And I ran back over to the crowd and I told them, I was like yo that guy that was just like harassing y’all? I was like he’s coming back and I think he might have a gun or something. Like this guy’s [ __ ] and uh he came back and started harassing people even more so we started waving the police down from the rally area to come down toward us toward the fence and they came down they talked to that guy…
Trooper tries to get a good description.
14:44 Dave: he said he owned the place he was claiming that he owned the place but I was talking to like this lady named Val she lives right behind the farm show she’s like I’ve lived here forever and that guy doesn’t own this place okay so he said that they all needed to leave that we all needed to leave we’re all trespassing he was just screaming ….
Trooper: who was it State Police or local
Dave: it’s on that video I videoed the interaction between that man and those police officers. I can’t believe his crowd control wasn’t sent down at that point. It was out of control ….
…
COP: Okay do you know him at all ?
Dayve Stewert: Not at all. His name or anything like that. If I recall one of the officers were asking him. Alex maybe. [He] said he owned like nine properties in the area or something like that. And then there was a different guy. The guy that I helped behind the tree whenever the shots were going off. His name was Dave. um Yeah there was a Dave. And then uh then there was like a there was a couple
Video Time: 20:49
Trooper: Do you recall uh fellow there in a bright yellow shirt?
Dayve Stewert: yeah yeah he was next to me like the neon green like traffic cone yeah yeah yeah he was a weird one too okay yeah yeah yeah he was near me he was filming too but then he quit filming and was just kind of standing there. And then there was a guy with the Gadsden American flag who said that his motorcycle was left in the area there. And he was pissed about that. I forget his name.
Trooper: so you began this conversation saying something about a a second shooter ?
Dayve Stewert: yeah because when we were first ducking behind the uh. When they moved us all from the back of the AGR building, and Homeland Security and the other guy with the long gun moved us over to the Township police car uh to take cover there, the the door was open and we could hear the radio communications. and uh they said shooter dead on the roof and then they said uh we breach the building there’s blood in the bathroom. Second shooter on the loose. So because like if the guy climbed the building and shot from there, like how was there blood found inside of a bathroom inside that building? So there had have been a second shooter right? That got shot or something.
Trooper: um You got moved to another building by who?
Dayve Stewert: Moved to another area by Homeland Security. I got the Cuffs taken from behind me to the front by Homeland Security and then when we got moved over to Township. Township police were like Dave? And I’m like yeah, Please take These Cuffs off me and they took the Cuffs off me. And then they moved us across the street and then they were like this is even a horrible spot over here if the dude wants to shoot out the windows. Get in the trunk of our car over here and we’ll drive you to the farm show.
Trooper: Okay, So what was it that you overheard on the radio?
Dayve Stewert: That there was uh shooter dead on the roof. And then they were clearing the building and they found blood in the bathroom. And they said a second suspect at large or something like that or whatever. I don’t know but blood was found in the bathroom remember that for sure cuz that’s what had us freaked out. Because that’s what the cops are telling us . Like hey the second shooter still around here so like let’s move from this point over to this point where it’s safer. And then they’re like well it’s not safe over here. Let’s take you over here.
Trooper: So you didn’t actually see any um potential second shooter.
Dayve Stewert: No, I assume the red truck guy . Cuz what I thought was when the shots were going off. I thought it was the red truck guy shooting us for being along his fence.
Trooper: Yeah um, you don’t know who the red truck that guy’s name is or anything?
Dave: Hell no if I knew I’d I’d tell you. His pictures on the video I got a closeup of his face.
Trooper: Oh that guy? So there was some uh surveillance footage that indicated you and um uh the subject might have communicated at one point. you recall that at all?
Dave: What??
Trooper: Yeah
Dave: No way let me see it.
Trooper: I don’t have it with me.
Dave: Well [ f__k ] Well have somebody text it to you!
Trooper: okay
Dave: I want to see that [ __ ] yeah are you serious. I was within the inches from this guy?
Trooper: Potentially.
Dave: No way! Wow. Not only was I like a feet from the muzzle I was [ __ ] inches from from the [ f__king ] guy beforehand. Good Lord I’m going down in the history books my friend good [ F__k ] God damn it this sucks. what this is blowing my mind right now bro. Holy [ s__t ] I can’t believe you just told me that. Oh my God. yeah So great, if I couldn’t already sleep now, you lay that on me oh my god.
Trooper: Do you have a way of us getting a hold of you?
Dave: no well however you found me now do that again.
Trooper: So, so, They would like for you to come to the FBI building in Pittsburgh at 10 to pick your stuff up.
Dave: All right I’ll be there I’ll be there.
Trooper: um you’ll just go to the gate and talk to the security guard tell them, tell them that you were told to come there 10:00 a.m.
Dave: God damn it man, I don’t even know if I’m going to be able to sleep. To fall sleep until two [ s__t ] now that you told me that [ s__t ] oh my God ah at 10:00 a.m. Really?
Trooper: Okay, all right, all right give me a few minutes here.
Dave: this is [ f__king ] crazy bro. Ah man
Trooper: At Least you’ll get your stuff back tomorrow though….
Dave: So um yeah 10 a.m. okay did you get that video?
Trooper: What video?
Dave: The video of me being near the dude. I want to see that dude, I want to see that…. well when can I come see it? Can I come up to the barracks tomorrow too after I hit up the FBI I want to see that.
Trooper: it’s not at the barracks
Dave: oh who has it?
Trooper: I don’t, I don’t know, I don’t know if it was on, if the FBI has it.
Dave: I’ll ask them yeah yeah for sure for sure that’s crazy…..
