The Molnupiravir Contradiction

Why would we mass treat a virus with a drug which forces the virus to mutate, when mutation is how the virus creates new variants that reinfect the vaccinated?


Before I explain the title contradiction, let me start with an admission.

Most of my life, I have been very friendly with the pharmaceutical industry. I have eloquently defended Big Pharma, the FDA, “government and corporate medical science”, and all those things that the Biden administration so earnestly defends now.

I even got an award sponsored by one of those Big Pharma companies – which is not to say much, because they give out a LOT of them. In fact, the grooming of young scientists to revere Big Pharma, is no different from the grooming of doctors (and now medical bureaucrats, who know less “talk-back” science) to promote and prescribe their products.

If you go back and look through my posts here, you will see that my thinking about Big Pharma has only evolved slowly from starry-eyed hope and blissful faith. I was quite earnest in my wishes that some of their new products might be better than doctor-discovered, repurposed, off-label drugs like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

What I would NOT do, was deny the obvious effectiveness of those cheap, plentiful, and SAFE doctor-discovered drugs.

If the world was against HCQ, then “Lupus contra mundum” (Wolf against the world).

Why so? Because the DATA on these two drugs killing virus and preventing death was so alarmingly GOOD. You just have to be HONEST and INDEPENDENT to see it. Then, you just ask WHY. And the answers came.

It was BEAUTIFUL. It was SCIENCE.

Even when it was ugly. Like the Lancetgate Effect.

I’m a DATA GUY. I know WHICH data matters and WHICH data doesn’t. I can SEE THROUGH CURVES like a horny guy next to a woman in bed in the dark, seeing her under the sheets. With DATA, I can see through walls. I can see around corners. I have escaped death many times by seeing what nobody else saw.

It’s a gift from GOD, and I don’t waste it.

I really WANTED remdesivir to work, but then I saw the numbers. I could not unsee them. I was forced to admit that the drug DID not work, and COULD not work, in large part because it was being administered too late.

Antivirals work best EARLY, when they have an overwhelming numerical advantage – which is very hard to obtain over an EXPONENTIAL ENEMY. But if you administer early, even ATYPICAL antivirals like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, in proper ANTIVIRAL doses, have a chance.

Remdesivir is fairly toxic stuff, and when administered too late, when the virus is long gone, it kills its victims in a way surprisingly similar to what late-stage COVID does, by kidney failure, and then pulmonary dysfunction which looks like pneumonia. So if you administer remdesivir to dying COVID patients, it may not do THEM any good, but it will make YOU a whole lot of money on their deaths, which are thus ENSURED. And YOU won’t get caught doing it, because it all looks like COVID.

SLICK.

And WE have covered remdesivir before.


Remdesivir Is How We Bring Down The Temple of Faucism

NIH and Gilead Blamecasting Remdesivir Renal Toxicity to an Excipient

OAN Hosts Amazing Anonymous Documentary on Discovery and Suppression of Ivermectin for COVID, and How Gilead and Fauci Gamed a Remdesivir Study

And last but not least:

The Murder of Veronica Wolski by Fauci and Gilead’s Zyklon D

There will be justice for Veronica Wolski, because we will DEMAND IT. And until there IS justice, we will drag the CRIMES of Anthony Fauci and Gilead “Pharmaceuticals” and their SLEAZY ASSOCIATES thorough the headlines, over and over, until people SPIT IN THEIR PATH as they walk down the streets. So where do we begin? …


Remdesivir goes really well with murderous vents and no prior therapeutics, and NO, NO, NO ivermectin allowed, which – DO TELL – is exactly how the Stalinist Biden-Obama-Harris administration and its CHINAZI allies kill off us pesky American seniors.

But that’s getting a little ahead of things. We’ll come back to remdesivir.

First – molnupiravir.


Molnupiravir was once called EIDD-2801, back when it was more of a hope and a dream.

I had high hopes for molnupiravir back then. I had hoped it would be a significantly better antiviral than hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, both of which are antiparasitics first, and antivirals second – and at that, only by a bit of luck. But that LUCK can SAVE YOUR LIFE.

That was back when I didn’t realize how diabolical the people who CONTROL Big Pharma really are – that they would SHIT on a lucky, life-saving break, just for money.

As it turns out, molnupiravir is roughly as good as the cheaper drugs, but definitely not as safe.

Nevertheless, molnupiravir is NEW, it’s PATENTABLE, and it’s a MONEYMAKER. The system is RIGGED, and thus we are DENIED the cheaper, safer drugs, so that our money will fund expensive drug research.

Whatever. That is just the way things are. I didn’t know that, when I was a student. I didn’t realize that the system was actually corrupt. Although the system probably wasn’t as bad back then, either.

Chinese communist ethics have filtered into America, and they have not done Big Pharma any good.

Would I take molnupiravir? Maybe. If I had to pick ONE, it would probably be ivermectin. Second choice, hydroxychloroquine. Third, molnupiravir. I don’t think I would take remdesivir next – I’d probably try acyclovir. That stuff really WORKED for my shingles – TWICE. It might not work on a coronavirus, but at least it wouldn’t kill my kidneys.

Now that you know how I feel about the drugs, let’s talk about WHY I feel that way. But in a roundabout and very telling manner.


Here is a synthesis of molnupiravir from cytidine – the molecule that it mimics in order to kill RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.

If you look at the molecular structure of molnupiravir above, on the right, you will see two rings. The pentagonal ring with an “O” (oxygen) is a SUGAR ring, and the hexagonal ring with two “N” (nitrogen) atoms is a BASE ring.

Together, those two rings are ALMOST a nucleoside – a component of RNA – called cytidine, shown above on the LEFT, or below.

The only real differences between molnupiravir and cytidine, as shown, are the tail on the left of molnupiravir, hanging off the left-hand O group (and which really only helps the delivery of the drug), and more importantly, that extra “OH” group, hanging off the right-hand NH group of the molnupiravir molecule, in the diagram above.

Add that OH group to cytidine, and you have N4-hydroxycytidine (NHC) – the “real” drug being administered, also known as EIDD-1931. Add that little ester tail on the left, to make a nice orally active and bioavailable “prodrug” of NHC, and you have molnupiravir, or EIDD-2801.

That OH group totally screws things up. It’s absolutely AMAZING what that does to the genetic machinery of the virus, inside YOU.

FAKE cytidine, like FAKE NEWS, kills.

There is a great but still fairly technical explanation of how molnupiravir works that was published in Nature, called “Molnupiravir: Coding for Catastrophe“. You can download a PDF of the article HERE.

The abstract is very useful:

Molnupiravir, a wide-spectrum antiviral that is currently in phase 2/3 clinical trials for the treatment of COVID-19, is proposed to inhibit viral replication by a mechanism known as ‘lethal mutagenesis’. Two recently published studies reveal the biochemical and structural bases of how molnupiravir disrupts the fidelity of SARS-CoV-2 genome replication and prevents viral propagation by fostering error accumulation in a process referred to as ‘error catastrophe’.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41594-021-00657-8

I used part of one graphic from the paper for the feature image of this article. That graphic shows crude, flattened structures of both molnupiravir, and the fully phosphorylated fake nucleotide that gets incorporated into the virus RNA, which is called molnupiravir triphosphate, or MTP.

Technically, it’s really not molnupiravir any more, after that prodrug ester gets replaced by a triphosphate unit – it should really be called N4-hydroxycytidine triphosphate. But that pickiness is confusing – MTP is still very true in spirit, and that’s FINE with us big picture types.

Now – THIS is where it all happens. This is where THINGS GO WRONG, and the drug starts to work.

That OH group hanging off the NH of molnupiravir CHANGES the nature of the nitrogen atom to which it is attached, and in a BIG way. Suddenly, the little hydrogen atom that is attached to that nitrogen, would almost rather be located on the OTHER nitrogen in the ring, instead of staying where it is, on the sideshain nitrogen, next to OH. In fact, that hydrogen atom almost stops caring which place it stays. This is a phenomenon called tautomerism. It’s a molecule that can exist in two forms.

One little proton. It’s now happy either way.

But RNA? It ain’t happy.

So what happens, is MTP goes into RNA where CTP should go. And once M is in there where C should be, M can’t make up its mind where that little proton should go. If the machinery sees M with the hydrogen where C would keep it, the machinery does the right thing, and M just gets treated like C. No mutation. But if the hydrogen is in the other place, the machinery thinks M is actually U, and a mutation occurs.

You can see that in this next diagram, where the “hydroxylamine” (-NHOH) form binds correctly with GTP, but the “oxime” form (=NOH) binds INCORRECTLY with ATP.

In the next graphic, you can see how M gets incorporated for C, and starts to cause problems by leading to U instead of C. The events shown in the graphic follow a sequence I’ll try to describe.

If you can’t follow it, don’t worry. This stuff is always confusing when you track the changes.

Starting from the top, below……

  • one ringer M is already present (top strand), while M competes with C to match the next G (two choices shown waiting)
  • the second ringer M goes in on the bottom strand, to match the G, where C should have gone
  • the second ringer M (now on top, follow UACGM from left) is then matched with a new A (WRONG) on the bottom, instead of a G (two choices shown). You can also see (and this is very complicated) that the first ringer M was matched with a G (now shown on top), and that G has already matched up to ANOTHER (third) ringer M, now on the bottom strand in the third subgraphic.
  • the strand with incorrect A (follow UMAA from right to left on bottom, now on TOP, right to left) is then matched with a U on the second A, completing the screw-up from C to U
  • the net effect, bottom strand, is that UACG[C] (top of diagram, what should have happened) became UACG[U] (bottom of diagram, what did happen)

One can look at this whole process as N4-Hydroxycytidine (M) cutting in line where C was supposed to go, and then handing things off to the WRONG base, so that C gets replaced by U.

Complicated, isn’t it? But THAT is how mutations are PROMOTED by this drug, and they are KEY to how it works. There is an AVALANCHE of mutations that kills the virus. The whole idea is that the DRUG makes the virus mutate too much, too fast, into non-viable forms, and it just dies – or at least enough for your immune system to take over and WIN the fight. The virus CRASHES because of the drug. Meanwhile, the body mounts a defense.

You can read the rest of the article if you want, and get some sense of the complexity of considerations as to whether this makes a good drug or not for the individual.

There IS a legitimate question of whether screwing up the RNA of the virus, might also lead to screw ups in the host – either in RNA or DNA, leading to things like birth defects, cancer, adverse events during therapy, etc.

That concern is nicely summarized in a Zero Hedge article:


“Proceed With Caution At Your Own Peril” – Merck’s COVID ‘Super Drug’ Poses Serious Health Risks, Scientists Warn

BY TYLER DURDEN

SATURDAY, OCT 09, 2021 – 05:22 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/proceed-caution-your-own-peril-mercks-covid-super-drug-poses-serious-health-risks


Now, I’m not really interested – for the purposes of this article – in the question of whether or not there are INDIVIDUAL dangers posed by molnupiravir, due to either mutations of the host, OR the forcing of mutation of the virus in that host.

There are excellent reasons to believe, that just like vaccines don’t really pose INDIVIDUAL risks through mutation of the virus in any particular victim, there is no significant individual risk from mutations of the virus due to a mutagenic drug.

HOWEVER, that’s not my concern.

My concern is related to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche’s concern about mass vaccination during a pandemic. He differentiates between the idea of a vaccine being good for an individual, and that vaccine being good public policy for humanity as a whole, ultimately including that individual.

Geert’s concern is that a virus AS A WHOLE – as a global population – as almost an ecosystem – will evolve due to pressure from a non-sterilizing vaccine, to create new strains that will resist the vaccine. Thus, while the vaccine may benefit an individual in the short term, it ultimately does NOT benefit the sum of all individuals, who will ALL suffer from the mutated virus, which would not have happened, absent the specific evolutionary pressure of the vaccine.

If Geert is right, it’s not just stupid to “vaccinate ourselves into trouble” – it’s downright EVIL.

We have already seen Geert’s prediction apparently (wait for it) fulfilled with the delta strain of SARS-CoV-2, which basically ignores vaccines against “wild type” Wuhan coronavirus.

But again, that is not STRICTLY my concern.

Then what IS my concern?


Original predictions, based on the mutation of the original Wuhan coronavirus, were that the virus was genetically contained – that it was not mutating into significantly different forms requiring changes in the vaccine. And yet, something seems to have CHANGED that. The early predictions could have been WRONG, but they could also have been UNDERMINED. And they could have been undermined by the same terrible logic of “we have to pass it to see what’s in it”, or “we have to try to MAKE the virus catch in human cells, to see if it CAN catch in human cells”.

You see what I mean? There could be “dishonest science” and other such “skulduggery” here, just like we have seen with LIARS like Fauci, Baric, Tedros, and China.

My concern is that in Geert Vanden Bossche’s scenario, which I have described as “coronavirus variant whack-a-mole”, it will only be made WORSE by drugs which encourage the mutation of the virus.

In other words, mass vaccination into a pandemic with “leaky” vaccines is bad, but to do so while chemically promoting the mutation of the virus is even worse.

Thus, not only is it CONTRADICTORY to vaccinate in such a scenario – it is EVEN MORE contradictory to promote mutation in such a scenario.

And – worse than THAT – it appears that we have ALREADY BEEN DOING IT – with remdesivir.


Remdesivir is notable as being an antiviral which is generally being given to patients, with no hope of it actually working, long after the SARS-CoV-2 virus has done its dirty work, and those patients are ACTUALLY dying of a cytokine storm. These patients may still be producing and shedding some virus, but the sum of all studies is rather definitive at this point – remdesivir does little except LENGTHEN the stay of patients in the hospital.

Well, what are those patients doing there, staying too long in the hospital?

One strong possibility is that these dying patients are creating mutants and variants. The following paper shows what happens to SARS-CoV-2 virus when confronted in vitro with remdesivir – and it is basically what I am predicting will happen with molnupiravir.


In vitro evolution of Remdesivir resistance reveals genome plasticity of SARS-CoV-2

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.01.429199v1.full

ABSTRACT

Remdesivir (RDV) is used widely for COVID-19 patients despite varying results in recent clinical trials. Here, we show how serially passaging SARS-CoV-2 in vitro in the presence of RDV selected for drug-resistant viral populations. We determined that the E802D mutation in the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase was sufficient to confer decreased RDV sensitivity without affecting viral fitness. Analysis of more than 200,000 sequences of globally circulating SARS-CoV-2 variants show no evidence of widespread transmission of RDV-resistant mutants. Surprisingly, we also observed changes in the Spike (i.e., H69 E484, N501, H655) corresponding to mutations identified in emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants indicating that they can arise in vitro in the absence of immune selection. This study illustrates SARS-CoV-2 genome plasticity and offers new perspectives on surveillance of viral variants.


Now this is moderately straightforward, but the big picture is not apparent, because the authors know they are playing with dynamite, so I’m going to restate what they found in more direct language.

Bottom line up front, they basically found evidence that remdesivir does exactly what I’m thinking molnupiravir will do – which is to promote mutation per se, including into “variants of concern”, independently of drug resistance evolutionary considerations, which makes tons of sense.

A mutagenic drug (or rather a drug which works on the principle of mutagenesis) creates mutations with high frequency on a large scale, without the need for evolution to strongly amplify rare beneficial mutations. But at the same time we don’t see – in the wild – any evolution of resistance to remdesivir (RDV). The paper spells this out.

So let’s look at what the study found:

“in vitro with omnipresent RDV” – we see both appearance of variants of concern AND resistance to RDV

“in vivo with late-stage RDV” – we see appearance of variants of concern but NO resistance to RDV

[ The second is a bit of a joke – I’m talking about what we see in the wild globally – no RDV resistance. ]

How can this be rationalized?

In the in vitro case, resistance to RDV is a NECESSITY forced upon the virus. All mutations must persist under omnipresent high concentrations of RDV, so this is a pressure that cannot be worked around or escaped from. Yes, RDV benefits the virus by assisting mutation, despite doing it “too much”, which forces resistance to occur. And what IS the resistance? It is for the virus to continue propagating, both unhindered by RDV yet also assisted by RDV. So, essentially, SARS-CoV-2 and RDV negotiate to the point where the “benefits” of RDV to speed up mutation don’t diminish the viability of the virus. The virus learns to USE the ringer nucleoside M to mutate faster, without dying from it. Thus, we see evolution of traits that have benefited SARS-CoV-2 in the wild, plus evolution of a trait of adaptation to RDV.

In the in vivo case, in a Petri dish called “planet Earth”, resistance to RDV is NOT a necessity. The virus has plenty of hosts who are not using it, so it negotiates more strongly to a better deal. It takes all the mutations it can get from RDV, but it does NOT accept the need to mutate to adapt to RDV. THAT particular mutation is unnecessary for most of the virus, so it is not forced to cut that deal.

Bottom line question: Does RDV in the wild speed up mutation?

My answer: I would bet money on it. It appears to do so in the lab.

And if I’m right, enhancement of mutation should happen even more strongly for molnupiravir, which has a more clearly mutagenic mechanism of action than remdesivir.

The authors simply refer to the plasticity of the VIRUS, because woe unto them if they talked about a Big Pharma drug being a promoter of viral plasticity-COUGH-mutation. But that is exactly what the in vitro results mean here. They were able to generate the “variants of concern” in the lab, using exposure to remdesivir.

They went looking for mutations for resistance to remdesivir, and they not only found one of those – they found MORE mutations, including ones matching “variants of concern”.


WHY?

Well, let’s go back to the original point:

Why would we mass treat a virus with a drug which forces the virus to mutate, when mutation is how the virus creates new variants that reinfect the vaccinated?

In my opinion, it is REASONABLE to expect that any drug which operates as a “ringer” nucleoside – as BOTH remdesivir AND molnupiravir do – is going to cause SOME level of genetic errors – a.k.a. mutations – as a consequence. You can dress up pro and con arguments in fancy language, but scientific common sense points one to the likelihood that a fake nucleoside will operate to some extent, if not to its main extent, as BAD DATA in the tape of life. And THAT means MUTATIONS.

And if remdesivir was doing it, then molnupiravir should do it on STEROIDS.

And I am NOT going to let Fauci explain his way out of this one by any kind of hand-waving, or Shifty-Schiff experiments like Lancetgate.

So where does this go?


I was having a lot of trouble figuring out why the push for remdesivir made sense to a particular PART of the corrupt forces behind the Plandemic.

Remember – AND logic.

In any rally of a giant societal “conspiracy”, which can be as big as:

  • “Let’s all go to the New World for each of our own reasons! It’s OURS!”
  • “The Islamic world attacked our towers! Let’s DO SOMETHING!”
  • “The other people are INSURRECTIONISTS! Arrest them!”
  • “White supremacists! Take away their rights!”
  • “It’s airborne Ebola! Civil rights out the window! We’re all gonna die!”

…..there is always a REASON for every aspect and for every beneficiary, but they’re usually quite different reasons, specific to the individual or group, and thus profoundly motivating.

In other words, these are “conspiracies of fortune”, in which MOST buy in not in an illegal way, but in either an immoral, amoral, or self-deceiving way. Some truly guilty ones secretly initiate the money-grab, and everybody else goes along, making true justice impossible.

It’s a great scam. It happens for ALL of the reasons – not just any one of them.

Still, in that context, things tend to make sense, but generally after the fact.

The advancement of remdesivir just didn’t make SENSE. More than that, its whole terrible history was wrapped up with the liar Anthony Fauci.

But if you back up even further – a useful tactic when things don’t make sense – one comes to the realization that many things about antivirals just don’t make sense.

  • we have good safe ones that “they” seem to hate now, upon their “discovery”
  • those drugs were never promoted or studied properly, IMO
  • the excuses for not vigorously pursuing the class of drugs BEFORE, ring VERY hollow NOW
  • the main class of “allowed” antivirals (ringer nucleosides) seems fundamentally flawed
  • the fundamental flaw (that we are using genetic error as a “cure”) is never acknowledged
  • the fact that we have to cure diseases that never had to exist, like SARS-CoV-2, fails to outrage any of the people in charge, who pushed these Frankenstein gain-of-function experiments to begin with
  • there is a bizarre fixation of vaccines as the only allowed solution to viral disease
  • genetic vaccines are pushed, when antigen vaccines are obviously fundamentally safer
  • genetic antivirals are pushed, when other categories are obviously both safer AND more effective

The LAST points seem to show some commonality, both in leading toward the massive money pit of gene therapy, and in relating to Anthony Fauci.

And THAT is where things start to make sense. The POLITICAL aspects of this. The installation of World Government, their holy grail.

Fauci, Baric, Daszak, Rick Bright, and Hillary Clinton all know what is actually going on – I am convinced of that. They are all knowledgeable, more than others, in the true agenda and schedule of the “Plandemic”, including the POLITICAL GOALS. They understand both the SCAM and the NOBLE (lying) PURPOSE.

I am convinced that VARIANTS are a key construct in the giant grift of COVID. The whole plan has to keep going, by ginning up more COVID as needed, but it also has to look NATURAL, so that nobody finally decides to send about 100 cruise missiles into Wuhan and a spare 20 into various Swiss cities, which would end this entire Globonazi / Chinazi farce once and for all.

OK. Save some for North Carolina and Canada, too. It’s complicated.

They COULD make more variants and release them, but nobody wants to screw up and get caught, like they already have been caught, time and time again, to the point that the whole Globonazi plan might finally get run down like a rabid dog in the middle of the road.

The fact of the matter, however, is that even with DRASTIC homing in on Baric, Daszak and Wuhan from the left, with Fauci finally treed by BEAGLES, of all things, and the rest of us bearing down on them from the right and center, they keep pushing on. They are NOT going to stop.

Variants have now died down due to the mechanics of immunity, largely due to refusal of so many people to take the immunosuppressing phony vaccines. But THAT can be worked around. Don’t think that variants are gone. They’re TOO DAMNED USEFUL.

So how do you get MORE of them, without a ChiCom release operation, to convince all the CHUMPS in science, who will swear on their various manuals and codexes that it’s all real?

Just give a CURE that makes sure there are MORE variants.

Remdesivir doesn’t WORK well enough. It makes money, because ALL modern operations have to make their own money, but it doesn’t promote mutation fast enough. Nor is it administered during the viral maximum, when maximum mutation is possible.

Enter molnupiravir.

Move variants needed? Sure! And in time for their NEXT political operation, a.k.a. the 2022 election!

The way this scam of vaccines and drugs works is really smart.

The narrow vaccines NARROW humanity’s pool of immunity coverage of the spike protein, while decreasing overall immunity, both broad-based immunity to COVID and to other diseases. Meanwhile, the drugs WIDEN the shotgun pattern of the spike to find new variants that evade the vaccines.

This is such an incredibly slick grift, I almost have to applaud it. BRAVO! Satan himself has to be IMPRESSED. New diseases hidden in cures for old ones. And all of it helping to achieve the socialist goal of transforming mankind PER SE.

Before this is over, as they begin to move the increasingly narrow coverage genetically, even the original Wuhan strain will become a “variant of concern” for vaxxies! Ah, what a beautiful SCAM. The irony!

Note that this explains why HCQ and ivermectin cannot be used. They dead-end the scam. One has to have something that completes the “scam cycle” of increasing the problem while pretending to fix it.

This is their modus operandi. They find something that looks like solving a problem, that actually perpetuates the problem, or creates a new and similar one.

Just like “pursue gain of function to prevent gain of function” – which scam was revealed by Judy Mikovits.

If you find Democrats like Fauci anywhere NEAR one of these cyclic grifts, you know you’ve identified a scam correctly.

You have found something communist.

And now you break it.

W

LINK: https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/the-extraordinary-hypocrisy-of-molnupiravir


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Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid

OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.

Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.

Example:

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/dear-kmag-20200810-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-569473

wolfmoon1776

I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!! 

I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.

Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.

TheseTruths

I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!

wolfmoon1776

Just saw this – let me get out of notification view and see what I said!

But now, take a look at these tweets, to see where SD is going…..


Sundance responds to a bunch of trolls and splodeyheads, but this one has some meat:


SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.

NOW – here is my problem.

Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.

So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.

  • keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
  • separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
  • on The U Tree

I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.

Thanks!


The LancetGateEffect

Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.

This is the article that brought it to my attention:

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away. I get more “old” likes and retweets on this one, than almost anything.

But here is the biggie:

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

This graph is a real convincer.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/05/hypothesis-restrictions-on-hydroxychloroquine-contribute-to-the-covid-19-cases-surge/

I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.

We really should have seen this coming – that there would be KARMA and CONSEQUENCES for banning HCQ on less than pure motives.

However, once you start digging into the FDA drama, it gets complicated – particularly with saboteurs like Rick Bright entering the mix.

But let’s ask a question posed by Gail Combs – is this whole HCQ thing a TRAP?

You know – THAT is a damn good question.

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/8-10-20-news-roundup-notice-the-democrat-and-msm-talking-point-has-disappeared-the-assassin-believes-that-pdjts-4-eos-would-stand-up-in-court-put-the-state-of-north-carolina-in-the-good-gu/comment-page-1/#comment-569018


Wolfie what is your take on this subject?

I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.

Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….

… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….

That was me.

DP, Ginger, and others.

Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go

AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL…..
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I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…

HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.

So what say you?

Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?


THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.

We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.

For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.

I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.

In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.

If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.

There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.

Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.

Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.

If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.

So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.


Ivermectin & COVID-19

Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.

LINK: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1

I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.

This article has a freely downloadable PDF version HERE: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1.full.pdf

If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.

This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.

The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!

Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.

What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?

“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.

Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:

  • less vents
  • more steroids
  • better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
  • more oxygen earlier
  • better testing, all kinds

As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.

Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.

It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.

It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.

The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.

If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.

Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.


On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic

Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:

If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.

SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.

Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.

A match made in HELL.

Anyway – here is the deal.

We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.

  • don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
  • every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
  • never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
  • don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
  • call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
  • pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation

In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.

By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.


Masks OFF

The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.

https://twitter.com/mhtx76/status/1293394550992580608

To which I responded…..

This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:

We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.

I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.

Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.

Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.

I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.


Carry on, Digital Soldiers!

W

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TIME TO….

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Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

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With a new government controlled

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ObamaGate News

Let’s start here. A tough one to swallow.

SHARYL ATTKISSON

UNTOUCHABLE SUBJECTS. FEARLESS, NONPARTISAN REPORTING.

READ (NEW): Attkisson v. Rosenstein for government computer intrusions

DATED: AUGUST 3, 2020 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON


The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.

Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:

  • Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government. 
  • Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers. 
  • The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
  • Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.

But then it gets interesting…..

Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:

  • White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data. 
  • The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein. 
  • Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent. 

READ MORE AT THE LINK: https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/08/read-new-attkisson-v-rosenstein-for-government-computer-intrusions/

As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.

Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?

But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..


Sally Yates, covered HERE:

LIVE THREAD: Sally Q. Yates Gets Grilled

……was a big deal. It seemed like she almost got away clean. BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR….. courtesy of Sundance…..

Richard Grenell Discusses Yates Testimony: “She got away with questioning yesterday”…

https://youtu.be/l2wUUcR1yTo

Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.

ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.

“Be prepared.”


HCQ News

Let’s start here:

https://twitter.com/alfa673/status/1290876639040147456

This is the “Henry Ford study”. It basically shows HCQ cutting the death rate in half.

But those numbers get BIGGER.

Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.

Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.

Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.

https://twitter.com/niro60487270/status/1290883705586593793

I had to comment and retweet!

The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.

LINK: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/update-1-turkey-s-covid-19-cases-up-over-1-000-in-severe-rebound/ar-BB17z1u0

Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.

NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.

Not exactly easy in New York.

Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away.

This data EVEN got the attention of microbiologist Steven Hatfill, who wrote a GREAT piece defending HCQ.

An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch

LINK: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.

And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.

NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.

I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.

NONSENSE!

Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.

BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.

One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.

https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1291387353085480965

YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.


HCQ Insights

One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.

I call this the “EUA EUA“.

“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”

The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.

One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.

The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.

The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.

WIN, WIN, WIN.


NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.

It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.

This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.

Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.


Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.

One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.

This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.

March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT

By Mike Hixenbaugh

LINK: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/scientists-were-close-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago-then-money-dried-n1150091

There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.

And now THIS.


Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine

What are we up against?

Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.

https://twitter.com/InAMadWorld111/status/1291072513703849986

Let’s look more closely.

We are not “starting a war”. We’re FIGHTING BACK.

Masks are a huge battle from the socialists who want ANY kind of permanent change, even really stupid ones.

Fighting back will be on all fronts. Some of it will be masks themselves, but others will be technical – TESTING and HCQ are going to be big.

Do not be afraid to put DATA like this in people’s faces.

https://twitter.com/carmindabrendel/status/1291459727143165953
https://twitter.com/GiantSlyers/status/1288563741206949889

Do not be afraid to ADMIT TRUTHS, because you can TRUST that more truth will come to your rescue.

We are going to WIN, and we are going to win BIGLY.

Take THAT to the Bank, Nancy Pelosi.

W