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We still don’t have a firm handle on this virus. The uncertainty leads to fear in a general population. Within this thread, we will share everything we know, culled from multiple sources. Thank you to all who contribute.
A New Kind of Warfare, a Bio-War, or Sudden Contagion:
The idea of a “Bio-Corridor” upon entry into the USA is being openly discussed and necessitates a new thread. This is an entirely new way of thinking and we need time to wrap our heads around the idea. Our goods go through a Customs screening but systems need to be updated and adapted for medical risk. Recently, we’ve seen illegal immigrants bringing measles, smallpox, polio, tuberculosis into our country. Diseases which were eradicated in the USA. A virus like COVID-19 is similar in in RO factor to Measles, but far more hazardous in risk to our citizens and economy. This makes LEGAL border adherence and a strict immigration policy mandatory…… just like those who came through Ellis Island long ago.
Health security has become national security and a globalist economy which only pursues short term profits has left us woefully unprepared. We can’t manufacture penicillin anymore or Vitamin C. Our last aspirin factory left the USA in 2004. We have ONE factory which makes surgical masks and sterile disposable operating room kits. And did you know a Chinese manufacturer recalled 9 million of those kits exported to the USA………. cuz they were contaminated.
With President Trump, we rebuilt a depleted military to fight conventional wars. We also turned our attention to the new war for the 21st century, the cyber war. Our enemies, specifically China, don’t need to devote billions to R&D and testing when they can merely steal our weapons systems for pennies on the dollar. Yet, how do we prepare for this war, the bio-war? Our supply chain and food supply must change. The USA is an MEGA exporter of Agri-products, BECAUSE our procedures and safety protocols are the best. We need country of origin labels on our food. Our ability to manufacture medicines must change. And China’s balance sheet and CCP subsidies must be dealt with, severely.
Here’s how the problem was created: Since China joined the WTO, they have successfully targeted entire industries to become the manufacturer to the world. In the USA, the “west”, and even India, companies operate on a profit/loss statement. They have to make money, otherwise, they go out of business. To gain dominance, China offers subsidies to their industries in the form of free energy, free water, capitol to build a factory, free land, or the most common way…. rolling of their bank loans. Remember, a rolling bank loan carries no loss. With this amount of subsidy, no private company in the USA/Belgium/ or India or Canada could possibly compete….. which is why Wall Street sent our factories to China.
Most economists believe China is carrying about 40-45 trillion in debt, about 3.5x’s their annual GDP, an amount equal to the USA having an 88 trillion dollar debt load. Everything ticks along nicely in China as long as the debt never comes due……….. With COVID-19, the debt is coming due.
Trump Administration timeline of action on Coronavirus:
January 29, 2020: Peter Navarro tasked with unique task. Peter Navarro on Tucker, WH Coronavirus Plan is 4 part strategy being executed on TRUMP TIME
1- HHS has RFP tomorrow for personal protective equipment, includes 1/2 Billion Masks, gloves, suits
2- 3 Treatment options, 1-remdesivir IV drug in clinical trials, trying to secure dosage 2-Develop oral antivirals in rapid time 3-monoclonal antibodies to help build up immune system
3-vaccine development in 1/2 time
4-point of care diagnostics, adapting handheld devices to be able to do field diagnostics
January 30, 2020: Trump Admin assembled a unified task force across all agencies to coordinate all response efforts across the totality of government. Official.
January 30, 2020: Trump signs proclamation, using Presidential authority pursuant to Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, temporarily suspending the entry into the United States of foreign nationals. Restrictions were first to limit people traveling from Wuhan, 14 days MANDATORY quarantine. Then advanced to include all travelers from China, 14 days self-quarantine. All foreign national who traveled within China in the prior 14 days, were denied entry.
January 30, 2020: HHS Secretary Alex Azar declared a nationwide public health emergency.
February 2, 2020: Effort took a few days to implement, taking effect, formally on February 2. President Trump; and in accordance with the declaration, at 5:00 p.m. EST; Sunday, February 2nd, the U.S government implemented temporary measures to increase detection & containment of the coronavirus proactively. Effective February 2nd.
February 25-26th: President requests 2.5 billion to fight Coronavirus, including developing a vaccine. Schumer/Pelosi criticize the President for acting too slowly, when they criticized him for over-reacting a month ago. Schumer insists the President has NO PLAN, but insists the President needs more money, proposes 8.5 billion dollars. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/25/schumer-trump-spar-over-incompetence-coronavirus-f/
February 26, 2020: Chelsea Clinton is rolled out, writing articles, criticizing the Trump Administration for Coronavirus response, media using the virus as a weapon to tank the market. Using it as a weapon to harm the President’s political aspirations for 2020 reelection. Disgusting.
February 27: GREAT news = 85% of Starbuck’s coffee chains have reopened in China, per Fox biz on February 27th.
Hat tip to Buterflygirl, Gail, and Sundance for timeline details and links.
Impact of COVID-19 on China’s Economy:
China has thrown billions into their local banks and reduced ratio of cash reserves to lending, and China was low on USD reserves due to tariff war with USA. The Chinese central bank plans to pump $22 billion into the economy amid reports that the coronavirus or COVD19 will lower the expected growth of China’s economy from 2.1% to 1.2%. It’s likely to be far worse.
Feb 20th, Goldman Sachs announces Coronavirus expected to impact up to 1% of GDP about a trillion dollars globally, market sinks 300 points https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaH79AEXMf8
Feb 24th, market opens down 997 points, begins slow slog back on fears of Coronavirus spreading outside China.
February 25th, another 900+ points, down. Over-reaction and media pushing fear.
Feb 20th – 34 Members of a church in South Korea have tested positive for Coronavirus, US Army shutting down portion of base there, theaters and commissary. Update on Feb 24th – over 800 people in South Korea test positive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaH79AEXMf8
February 26 – Over 1800 infected in South Korea, per Laura Ingraham interview with Americans in South Korea. Towns the size of Kansas City and no traffic on streets.
February 26th, per Laura Ingraham Show, over 800,000 people in South Korea calling for impeachment of President Moon…… because he did not shut down the border with China fast enough. (Guess President Trump is looking pretty smart)
Auto Sales in China, down 92% in February, according to Gordan Chang/FOX Biz.
Coal usage in China is down 50%. China gets 70% of electricity production from coal…. per Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Estate sales almost completely shut down. Gov’t revenue is highly dependent on real estate tax on sales. In a city of 20 million, we might see 5-10 sales a day. Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Local Transportation cars/trains running at 15-20% of normal, China economy flat-lining. Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Amazon taking drastic action to get materials out of China and hold steady on Supply Chain (per Fox Biz, February 24th)
Toy Manufacturers concerned about Christmas items (last of our concerns right now)
Containers already in route to USA, carrying medical supplies, latex gloves, masks, surgical kits, etc., ordered returned to China. (FOX Biz Feb 24th)
Yield on the 10yr US Treasury bond almost hits all time low at 1.37% (Feb 24th) as foreign investors flood into safety of US Treasuries
Oil prices down, on report of oil use DOWN in China(Feb 24th), we knew it weeks ago.
Local Chinese business are reporting only 3 weeks of cash on hand
How many factory workers can survive 6 weeks without a paycheck?
Layoffs have begun in China to save the businesses
Chinese students in the USA report they cannot return home because mom/dad can’t afford to bring them home (not working), even if they could get a flight.
Reefer Units (a container which carries refrigerated goods) is plugged in when it arrives at port to maintain temperature. As of today, there are no more “plug-ins” available in the entire country. Shipping is at a standstill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BvyBTMBR5c
Approximately 80% of China’s export economy is shut down.
Farmers are having problems getting trucks to take their food supplies into towns for deliver…… system shutdown.
Apple missed quarterly earnings in the USA and forecasts delays in delivery.
Under pressure from leadership, the Apple factory reopened…. but only 10% of the workforce showed up for duty. Other province governors have barred companies from reopening.
China agreed to “half” their tariffs on US goods, looking for economic relief from the USA
Japan’s economy contracted 1.6% as they face Coronavirus (and a dumb idea about imposing a higher local sales tax more responsible for Japan lag in economy than COVID-19)
South Korea shut down their Hyundai plant due to lack of parts manufactured in China.
Statistics and information coming out of China are highly questionable.
Feb 24th, northern Italy shuts down. Milan described as a “ghost town”. Venice Carnival is cancelled. Schools, museums, theaters, religious events, all closed until March 1st, and re-assess. 55% of Italy’s GDP comes from this region.
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How did COVID-19 start? What was the source?
We heard all kinds of rumors about the origins for COVID-19. First it was bat-soup, then Pandolins, but almost immediately we had a “conspiracy theory” about a bio-weapon accident/escape from a Level 4 lab in Wuhan, coincidentally close to the wet market. Did Coronavirus COVID-19 originate in Chinese government bio-weapon laboratory? Scientists believe killer disease may have begun in research facility 300 yards from Wuhan wet fish market. Senator Tom Cotton raised the possibility, was criticized, and proven correct by a study released on Feb 21st. Chinese Ambassador did not directly answer question in mid-February. Immediately CCP media calls out Tom Cotton. Odd…… Here are articles discussing the possibility:
BREAKING: Many leading Chinese scientists are starting to speak out and say COVID-19 (coronavirus) originated at a government bioweapons research facility in Wuhan, rather than the widely-held belief that it emerged from the city's Huanan seafood markets.https://t.co/DsxwJSAox2pic.twitter.com/TbshN8eDni
This is politically correct pablum, @DrTedros. The greatest enemy is of course the virus, not hurt feelings or fear or stigma. All this kind of idiocy does is make people question the WHO’s priorities. https://t.co/ser1Qqqxf7
Well, look at that. The Chinese Communist Party’s propaganda rag finally admits what I’ve said for a month: coronavirus didn’t start in Wuhan food market. So where did it originate? Time for answers from CCP. https://t.co/UTvcjvrHNz
Remdisovir, an AIDS drug is being discussed and we have some reports of success. Peter Navaro of the Trump Administration indicated approximately 100K doses would be available by the end of February as manufacturer of the drug, Gilead Sciences gears up production.
Other experts woefully admit it will be difficult to create a vaccine for Coronavirus, and even if they could, if everything went perfectly, it would be at least November before a vaccine would be available. Here are a few sources discussing the issue:
Always check Lancet Magazine, British publication, one of the most highly regarded institutions on subject of Coronavirus, discrediting rumor that this virus is anything but natural. AND rumors to such will make the problem more difficult to resolve….. which sounds like a political statement.
Please note the end of this post/article for common sense prevention.
Snapshot information and stories from around the world:
Cruise Ship docked and quarantined in Japan, the Diamond Princess, docked off Yokohama: had 600+ infected persons, of 3700 passengers. Americans were evacuated from the ship, evacuated from Japan and flown home by the State Dept. 14 tested positive, now quarantined in Nebraska, and at military bases in Texas and California.
Taxi Cab drivers and physicians reported the problem in Wuhan as early as December 8th-9th.
Official Death toll is 2,800+ (Updated 10:00pm Eastern, February 26, 2020) (could be thousands more) (current “official” dashboard from Johns Hopkins is located at top of thread)
82,163 confirmed cases (could be thousands to millions) confirmed worldwide (Updated 10:00pm Eastern, February 26, 2020) (current “official” dashboard from Johns Hopkins is located at top of thread)
Hardest hit is Hubei province, healthcare system is overloaded, but we’re seeing death tolls reported from Jilin, to Sichuan, to Guangdong to Chongqing – it’s all over China.
Over 863 Police in China infected because of secondary contact.
Japan is second hardest hit. Party on board a boat seems to be the source tracked to 11 who are infected, virus spread from there.
Singapore has over 80 active cases.
Rumors of problems with virus in Thailand among sex workers. Statistics not being reported.
Feb 20th, Sacred Muslim city of Qom, Iran, about 80 miles south of Tehran, has reported 50 cases of Coronavirus, city is shutting down.
Feb 24th, Heshmat Alavi reports as many as 18,000 cases in Iran and serious problems with infection in Iranian prisons.
Cruise passengers from Diamond Princess released and flown home. Of 11 Israelis flown home one tests positive.
As much as 55-60% of China’s physicians have less than a Bachelors degree. Nurses are poorly trained. Latex gloves are rare. Procedure and sterile protocols common in the USA are not so common in China, AND the further we get from large metro centers, the worse it is. Interesting discussion with the Director of Apple News in Hong Kong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Hud-ijzEo
More contagious than Seasonal Flu, Spanish Flu, or SARS.
WHO team was allowed into China February 9th. USA has been offering assistance to China since January 6th. WHO team will be confined to Beijing, NOT allowed to travel to Wuhan, only allowed to look at data (which is unreliable).
USA delivered 100 million dollars of AID to China to battle the virus.
A map of Chinese provinces will help us get oriented within the country.
War Room Pandemic is a weekday show, done by Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassan. They were on the story before anyone else and their guests are helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBxESl_m1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Exceptionally valuable information is found in Pandemic Episode 15. Rosemary Gibson, Senior Advisor to the Hastings Center, took three years to investigate the state of Americas pharmaceuticals, culminating in the book “China RX”. Did you know the last aspirin factory in the USA closed down in 2004? Did you know that the USA can no longer MAKE Vitamin C? Did you know tainted heparin from China cause many deaths of American citizens….. it was Made in China. And did you know that our politicians have known about the problem/national security/health security for decades?
Also within this program is an interview with Mike Bowen, Senior VP and owner of Prestige Ameritech, the last manufacturer of N-95 Medical Grade Masks in the USA. It’s an interview which will make you scream in frustration, and cry because of the ineptness of our bureaucrats and trade policies……. The facility used to supply about 79% of the market in the USA until purchased by Kimberly Clark….. shut down and shipped overseas, losing thousands of jobs and endangering Americans. It’s a must watch.
Episodes 18 and 19 discuss a great deal of the economic impact. Resources/interviews include the Director for Apple News In Hong Kong (discusses the healthcare system in communist China), and an associate professor at Fulbright in Saigon who analyzes the microeconomics of China (he’s the one measuring the lumens in China at night). Episode 19 discusses how the USA and India can address the problem of pharma and China virus.
Gail Combs, fellow Treeper, is one of our best researchers. I believe she is a physicist. Wish I could give you her whole bio, yet this is the internet.… Gail has agreed to compile valuable info for us all, found below. Thank you, Gail! And thank you to BakoCarl for more resource links!
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE CHINESE CORONA VIRUS.
1. China does not have enough tests kits to document all suspected cases. The test can easily show a negative for people with the disease. Politically, China has good reason to lie. Also since it is a deep lung infection a cheek or throat swap can give a false positive. Coughed up sputum gives 11% more positives.
2. The virus attaches to ACE2 expressers deep in the lungs. Men have 4 times as many ACE2 expressers as women and are 3 times as likely to get it. Asians have 5 times as many as Africans/Europeans.
In early stats, (Jan2 – 41 people) less than half had underlying diseases BUT it does affect those with chronic inflammatory diseases including diabetes, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease (probably asthma too.)
3. Those without symptoms or with very mild symptoms can spread it. It can be spread via coughs, contact surfaces and with feces. Diarrhea is one of the possible symptoms. (Not good for San Fran-feces.)
4. We do not know how many without symptoms may have come over on early flights. Running a temperature many not appear immediately after contact with the virus. ”mean incubation period to be 6.4 (5.6 – 7.7, 95% CI) days, ranging from 2.1 to 11.1 days” https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.27.20018986v2
”….time in hospital prior to death 10+ days I think for most of them…. …I have seen several references that said about 25% of confirmed cases get serious complications and something like 15% end up in ICU.” – Larry L.
76% of the confirmed 2019-nCov cases from 1 hospital in Wuhan required oxygen therapy.
6. The first victim here in the USA required a long hospital stay of at least 2 weeks. He was still coughing after two weeks and therefore probably still infectious.
7. People the most at risk are 50 years and over with pre-existing chronic inflammatory diseases. (Patriot Nurse)
♦️ it is an RNA virus that mutates easily, ♦️ it is more contagious than SARS, ♦️ and it can spread from an asymptomatic person.
This means that even someone who has recovered from the virus can transmit it, making it more difficult to curb its spread.
As a result, Hsieh said it is possible that the virus could stay dormant in the body after recovery and come back to haunt the host in winter or when their immune system is weakened…. *
CONCLUSION The virus is probably ‘free’ here in the USA. I t is more severe for men, especially older men and older people with chronic inflammatory disease. It requires a long hospital stay. Children may show little sign of the disease.
THEREFORE the goal is to prevent rapid spread of the disease especially to those over 50 so the hospitals are not overwhelmed. IF the system is overwhelmed the elderly WILL NOT GET CARE!
triage 1a: the sorting of and allocation of treatment to patients and especially battle and disaster victims according to a system of priorities designed to maximize the number of survivors https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/triage
PREVENTION ~ MINIMIZING CONTACT
If you are older stay away from your grand kids! Larry L. suggested a 3 – 6 foot distance from other people, a pathologist suggests 6 to 9 feet.
MASKS ”There is a minimum effective infectious dose. Greater doses increases the likelihood of infection. This also affects the incubation period. The lower the exposure, the longer the time needed for the infection to get going internally; and with that, the longer it will be before that person becomes infections and/or shows symptoms. Recall that most symptoms are due to activation of the immune system, and not from the infection itself.” — cdquarles
For the painter/farmer masks: (N95 or N100) 3m has p100 filters with no sorbents, such as #2091, and then I saw ‘improved’ version #2291 I think. The 2091 are bright fuscia. I think I’ve seen people ambulating near Stanford hospital sporting these as facial fashion. Much easier to breath, and very comfortable with the 7502 ‘faceplate’. I had no sense of ‘rebreathing’ or claustro.
Many people wonder what they can do to NOT get the virus. If we think of Coronavirus like a “super-flu”, it makes sense to follow good general hygiene principles, eat well, and get plenty of rest. Here are some extra hints from Gail.
NUTRITION TO OPTIMIZE IMMUNE SYSTEM High dose Vit C for anti viral activity.
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 30, 2020 recomends, VERY HIGH levels of Vitamin C.
Please read the whole article. At the bottom are references and recommended reading.
In summary:
What dosage? Vitamin C fights all types of viruses. Although the dose should truly be high, even a low supplemental amount of vitamin C saves lives. This is very important for those with low incomes and few treatment options. For example, in one well-controlled, randomized study, just 200 mg/day vitamin C given to the elderly resulted in improvement in respiratory symptoms in the most severely ill, hospitalized patients. And there were 80% fewer deaths in the vitamin C group. [7] …The sicker a person was, the more ascorbic acid they would tolerate orally without it causing diarrhea. In a person with an otherwise normal GI tract when they were well, would tolerate 5 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid orally in divided doses without diarrhea….. But to best build up our immune systems, we need to employ large, orthomolecular doses of several vital nutrients. The physicians on the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service review board specifically recommend at least 3,000 milligrams (or more) of vitamin C daily, in divided doses. Vitamin C empowers the immune system and can directly denature many viruses. It can be taken as ascorbic acid (which is sour like vinegar), either in capsules or as crystals dissolved in water or juice. It can also be taken as sodium ascorbate, which is non-acidic. To be most effective, it should be taken to bowel tolerance. This means taking high doses several (or many) times each day. See the references below for more information….
Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form)…..
Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000)…..
Zinc is a powerful antioxidant and is essential for many biochemical pathways. It has been shown to be effective in helping the body fight infections. [20,21] A recommended dose is 20-40 mg/day for adults….
Selenium:100 mcg (micrograms) daily…..
B-complex vitamins and vitamin A: A multivitamin tablet with each meal will supply these conveniently and economically….. Nutritional supplements are not just a good idea. For fighting viruses, they are absolutely essential
From a fellow Q-Treeper (sorry I did not keep the Id) I have added the studies verifying the claims.
A VERY over-simplified version of how viruses work, immune boosting, and what you can do NOW. This is esp helpful for at risk age groups, but good for everyone.
Those spikes you see on virus pics allow it to puncture your cell wall and use the inside of your cell for food. Immune boosters help strengthen your cell wall, among other things.
ELDERBERRY SYRUP – (Sambucus n.) Strengthens your cell walls, and is shown to bind to flu viruses, preventing them from invading cells and replicating.
ASTRAGALUS – Helps increase the bodies production of interferon, and, reduces water retention.
ECHINACEA p. – Provides inulin, which improves white cells ability to fight in part by increasing properdin, increases and activates white cells, signals the body to release interferon. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4058675/
VITAMIN C – Helps the red blood cells transport oxygen thru the body. Your lymphatic system runs along (mostly) the same paths that your blood vessels use. However, your lymph system doesn’t have a “pump” the way your blood vessels have your heart to move things along. Your lymphatic system helps with your blood system to drain out the debris from your dead cell walls, dead virus cell, and white cells, etc. Keeping your lymphatic system clear of debris is why you are told to drink lots of fluids when you get sick. That junk needs to be urinated out, to keep the lanes clear for more white cells to attack the virus. There are also simple excercises that “pump” your lymphatics. These are all online. If you catch a virus, there are more things to add that may help.
So, if you get sick: INCREASE YOUR IMMUNE BOOSTERS!!! like, every couple hours or so. Drink LOT of fluids
NETTLES – Anti-histamine, anti-inflammatory, and diuretic. Is helpful with drying up runny noses, too!
…Phenolic compounds could be defined as biologically active and herbal and have positive effects on health. The scientific researches are increased about the positive effect of phenolic compounds into coronary heart disease and high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, inflammative, viral and parasitic disease, psychotic disorders…
For fever, Tylenol or Motrin. Some people don’t do fever control, as the higher temperatures help kill the virus, but I have seen seizures happen from this, so I think fever control is a good thing. Also, if your body is fight aches and fever, those are cells which can be helping fight the virus instead. Again, very over-simplified, but some steps you can be taking NOW, and some herbs you can look into to see what may work for you and yours.
I recommend looking for the scientific studies (pro and con) that actually support the claims of any health remedy not prescribed by a doctor as I have done above.
DISCLAIMER: I am a chemist and not a doctor. This is just a compilation from comments at both sites that may be of interest to readers. Think for your self!
(1970s) Ellison began working for Ampex Corporation. His projects included a database for the CIA, which he named “Oracle”.….
President Trump left the WH today for a fundraiser at Larry Ellison’s (founder of Oracle and devotee of America’s Cup Racing) home in Rancho Mirage, California. The home is called Porcupine Creek.
Here is the schedule for the next week. Buckle up, it’s busy.
President Trump will dominate the headlines
President leaves Tuesday for a fundraiser in Rancho Mirage, California at Larry Ellison’s house. It’s a big deal. Expected to raise about 10 million dollars.
Phoenix, AZ Wed, February 19, 2020 07:00 pm (MST)
President flies back to Vegas to spend the night.
Thursday Morning, President attends Graduation Ceremony for Prisoners in Vegas, signature program. If he can actually reduce the recidivism rate, it would be a major accomplishment.
President flies to Colorado Springs for rally.
Colorado Springs, CO Thu, February 20, 2020 05:00 pm (MST)
President flies back to Vegas to spend the night.
Las Vegas, NV Fri, February 21, 2020 12:00 pm (PST)
VP Pence gives a rally in Reno, 1:15pm.
Fly back to DC or to Mar-A-Lago? Is Baron on spring break? Melania did not come back to the WH with President after the Daytona 500. Maybe they are still in Florida? No….. if you thought we were done, you were WRONG.
After speaking at three rallies in three days in three states, with attending a California fundraiser and Las Vegas graduation speech, Trump will have one day to rest up before he heads to India for a two-day visit with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. (and Melania is going to India with him)
A little bit more about Porcupine Creek. I saw this house when it was on the market. The swimming pool holds 675K gallons. Compared to our lovely swimming pool which holds 38,000 gallons….. it’s practically 20Xs the size of my “estate-size” swimming pool.
The home WAS owned by Tim and Edra Blixseth who were the founders of Yellowstone Club, exclusive Golf Resort where Obama showed up to golf the day after Trump’s inauguration. Hehe…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loArI8hMyTE
Playing off the profit of developing Yellowstone Club, Tim and Edra Blexsith built their own trophy home on a prime select 249 acres, with the 11th best golf course in California. The estate has an 18,430-square-foot Mediterranean-style main home, 16 bedrooms, located in the heart of the sun-drenched city of Rancho Mirage at the base of the Santa Rosa Mountains.The home has hand-painted ceiling murals, an amphitheater and a resort-style pool. With eight two-bedroom guest houses, a gym, spa, an outdoor party grotto with a full-size stage, and commercial kitchens, the private home has been the scene for numerous charity events that often drew 500 or more guests.
But Tim and Edra had a bloody divorce and listed the property for sale at 75 million dollars.
The property didn’t sell….. lingered…… you know, that Obama economy was tough on Cali real estate. The Blexsith’s dropped the price to 55 million dollars to settle the divorce. Enter Larry Ellison…. the world’s 6th richest man at the time. Ellison snapped up the property for 42.9 million, cuz not even billionaires pay retail.
Lawrence Joseph Ellison (Larry)…….. we could write a dozen books on him…… is an American businessman, entrepreneur, and philanthropist who is a co-founder and the executive chairman and chief technology officer of Oracle Corporation.
As of October 2019, he was listed by Forbes magazine as the fourth-wealthiest person in the United States and as the sixth-wealthiest in the world, with a fortune of $69.1 billion, increased from $54.5 billion in 2018. How/why do you suppose Ellison increased his holdings by 15 billion dollars in one year? Could it be because of this man?
From WIKI: Ellison is 75 years old, been married and divorced 4 times, 6’3″ tall, and was born in the Bronx to an unwed Jewish mother.[5][6][7][8] His biological father was an Italian American United States Army Air Corps pilot. After Ellison contracted pneumonia at the age of nine months, his mother gave him to her aunt and uncle for adoption.[8] He did not meet his biological mother again until he was 48.[9] Raised Jewish but refused Bar-Mitzvah.
His adoptive parents moved to the burbs of Chicago. He was a member of the “fighting Illini at Champaign-Urbana for two years when his mother died. He spent the summer in California, and went back to the Univ of Chicago for one semester where he was “introduced to computer design”. He checked out in 1966, at age 22, and moved to Berkeley.
In the 1970s, Ellison began working for AMPEX. His life is a fascinating read of the wild west in Silicon Valley. Ellison was ruthless, put competitors in jail, jostled for control, accused of insider trading, paid off charities, and rode the wave. He’s an American success story. Larry Ellison collects homes, cars, yachts, tennis tournaments, planes, and people. Politically, he has endorsed Rand Paul and Marco Rubio in the past, and contributed to both Dems and Repubs.
While 2200 Oracle employees have signed a petition “demanding” Larry Ellison rescind the invitation to President Trump, ALL OF SILICON VALLEY KNOWS, they are under pressure for regulation and taxation from foreign governments. America’s tech titans have created vast wealth and mean to protect it. Nothing motivates like love of money. Greed makes strange bedfellows and the founders of Silicon Valley know that Bernie/Liz Warren/even Bloomberg will not defend them internationally, like President Trump has and will, and a socialist would never keep the economy roaring like President Trump, while they all know Bloomberg is a sell-out to China. Odd, eh?
Nonetheless, for Larry Ellison to step out and endorse Trump is a big deal.
Remember the 1970s = Ellison began working for Ampex Corporation. His projects included a database for the CIA, which he named “Oracle”.
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I’m gonna tell you about two of the GREATEST people I know. Both of them would be CUT OFF by that bastard Bloomberg and left to DIE. Both of these men served their country – one at peace, one at war. They spent the BEST YEARS OF THEIR LIVES serving ALL OF US. They did NOT serve us, during their YOUNG, HEALTHY YEARS, as Obama poets, screwing nameless girls and getting high on choom. They did NOT get rich and chase the tail like NANNY BLOOMBERG – though one of them HELPED others – HONEST MEN – get rich, and earned a nice, LIFE-SAVING retirement doing so.
These great men would be left to DIE by that nasty bastard Bloomberg, and it will happen over my dead body. I am going to tell you why this heartless Bloomberg MUST BE STOPPED.
HERE WE GO.
One of these men is now almost 100 years old – a World War II veteran. HE HELPED LIBERATE MY MOTHER and millions of others who were either in camps or destined for them. He was part of the storied American forces to which my mother and her fellow refugees ran, walked, and CRAWLED to avoid more socialism. This wonderful man spent the most formative years of his life following closely behind the front lines in World War II. He now has a hard time remembering which beach he landed on in Normandy, so we figured it out together using his memories and maps on the internet. He told me what it was like to go across the channel, to go up the cliffs, to ride the jeeps. It was like I was there. And when I was in Europe, I saw the EXACT places he slept – yards away from the famous generals we read about in history books. Men whose underlings and underlings of underlings HE reported to. And he has taught me ALL ABOUT the important things – what makes America DIFFERENT and WORTH DEFENDING.
This man is LIVING HISTORY. He is proof that the term “Greatest Generation” is no bullshit.
I have seen his medical care. Some cancer treatments would actually make sense, so that he can live to 100. So that his family – NOW approaching 50 people bearing his name, his face, or both – can have one more summer reunion with him.
He can afford it. His FAMILY would gladly afford it. Why deny it?
This great man was there at the beginning of Social Security. He heard the ORIGINAL PROMISE. But now it would appear that not every presidential candidate cares about PROMISES MADE – PROMISES KEPT. Evidently NANNY BLOOMBERG didn’t make the original promise, so he feels no obligation to even keep AMERICA’S promise.
Yeah, it may be TECHNICALLY TRUE that denying healthcare won’t be “technically” denial of social security’s promise, but that is exactly the kind of guy Bloomberg is. The SPIRIT of the law means NOTHING to him. He is still WELCHING on America’s deal, make no mistake.
My jaw just drops. If you’re wondering why New York went to hell, don’t just look at de Blasio. Look at Bloomberg. Look at “Pre-Blasio”. He started it all. He – the “former” Democrat who CLAIMED – very weirdly – to have become a Republican after 9/11 – is the one who began the true decline of New York City, to what we see today. And I say it is because Bloomberg LACKS CHARACTER. His policies were not LOVING OF THE CITY, but COLD TO ITS PEOPLE. There is a difference.
Next, we talk about another man. He is now stricken with a terrible disease. He is almost completely paralyzed – much like Stephen Hawking was. But this man lived and continues to live a very good life. He is a friend of the veteran.
This man changed your life. Not by war, but by peace. He was on the absolute forefront of applied technology which brought computers into business. When it all went electronic, he was behind it, at the cutting edge. My father worked on a different end of that emergence of computers after World War II, so this is personal on THAT side of my family as well. These men were at the very beginning. They helped make America what it was, and what it is today.
In his young days, when others were having fun, this man was working very hard, and his talents were FOUGHT OVER by the richest and most powerful men in business. He has wonderful stories about these famous men and their companies. Those men and their companies are now part of history – some gone – some still here – all of them historic. They were and are part of your lives.
This great American was very fortunate, and very wise, and put away enough money for a comfortable retirement. He’s not rich, but when the terrible disease struck, he had the money that his family needed to take care of him. He actually lives a very happy life. Spending time with him, I am in some ways envious. He lives in great beauty, comfort and ease, surrounded by Godly and upright people he helped make that way, and while he doesn’t travel as much as he used to, he is happy and funny and a joy to all who know him.
Let me spell this out so even NANNY can read and understand it.
HE INVESTED IN THIS FUTURE.
He is a wonderful person, who enjoys life, and touches the lives of everybody around him. We are ALL pulling for him to stay with us, blessing and enriching our lives.
Would Nanny Bloomberg pull the plug? I guarantee you, if this man did not have the FREE and INDEPENDENT private health insurance that HE WORKED FOR and HE PAID FOR and others want to TAKE AWAY, that cold bastard Nanny COULD and WOULD pull the plug on him. Maybe not directly, but one way or another, this man would LOSE the level of care and protection HE WORKED FOR.
Something is wrong with Nanny Bloomberg. I don’t know what it is, but he is not representative of the America that these great men, or my parents, or YOUR PARENTS fought for.
I have no idea why Nanny Bloomberg is running for office, but it is not to make this country better, let alone great. He almost seems motivated more by hatred of Trump, than by love of America.
At this point, I think it is incumbent upon us to not merely oppose Nanny Bloomberg, but to stop him. He threatens to undo the very soul of this nation. A nation which does not revere its elders – or even WORSE, is not even ALLOWED to revere its elders – is destined for ruin.
It’s time to choose to defend not just the youngest, but the oldest and weakest as well.
They EARNED our respect, and now they need our defense.
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If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from A Shamaluev Music, titled ‘Beauty’:
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Wheatie’s Word of the Day:
Y’all
“Y’all” is a contraction of two words, that has been around longer than most people realize.
These days, we think of it as a contraction of the words ‘You’ and ‘All’.
But it dates back to a contraction of Ye and All, from the Old English that our Scots-Irish ancestors brought over with them.
Used in a sentence:
Ye all will perish if we listen to the lay-about fools who tell us that we should all share in the fruits of each others’ labours.
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Today is Presidents Day.
Presidents Day is celebrated on the 3rd Monday of February, and started out as a holiday for Washington’s Birthday on February 22nd, established in 1885.
Then, some states added a holiday for Lincoln’s Birthday on February 12th.
In 1968, the Uniform Monday Holiday Act was passed and went into effect in 1971, which combined the two birthday holidays.
There is some confusion, however, as to whether or not an apostrophe should be used after “Presidents”…because we see it both ways, and even before the ‘s’.
I don’t know which way is the proper way…but I don’t consider this guy to be in with the Presidents who are celebrated.
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Found this…and thought I would post it for our Wolfie:
PUBLIC THREAD: Because this is meant for public consumption, I will refrain from the usual colorful language of our work threads, where I normally don’t give a damn. I want people in Washington to see this article with NO EXCUSES to look away.
Consider this article a terrorist device – an information land-mine – which I have placed INSIDE the Washington Monument, up near the top, from where its DEADLY SAVING RAYS will pass harmlessly through all TRUTH-TELLERS and will BURN LIARS, SCOUNDRELS, and SEDITION-ASSISTING FAKE NEWS JOURNALISTS.
It’s on, brothers and sisters. I say as I listen to the choppers outside my window, somewhat earlier than usual.
If you have not followed my initial outrage at Andy McCabe getting “no charges” for lying to the OIG, or the slow “coming to realization” over three more decreasingly outraged and increasingly savvy posts, then here you go – follow my schooling in the construction of information terror devices:
Within these posts, there is critical information from SUNDANCE over at The Conservative Treehouse. However, there is NEWER information from Sundance which is even MORE helpful to understand where I’m at right now.
I believe it is EXTREMELY USEFUL to read this Sundance post, in order to put the big picture together. Sundance and I are seeing the same reality from two different vantage points. Once you understand it all, Sundance ends with a very helpful metaphor for the current situation.
Please read it NOW, and then I will restate the metaphor for your convenience.
(Full Stop – read the Sundance piece, linked above.)
Here is the metaphor / prophecy / orders from Trump transcribed by Sundance / whatever:
The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire. General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…
[pot-stirring tweet by Devil N. Barrett – i.e., this guy is one of the arsonist FAKE firefighters]
[two Trump tweets breaking out the Zippo – i.e., justice is coming, FAKE NEWS]
President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.
The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court. The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here. With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.
Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…
Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse
SO – if you’re following all that, and not “playing stupid” like a typical lefty journalist, and not afraid to talk in a bit of “Q lingo”, then you realize that what Sundance is describing is remarkably similar to “The Plan”. But I’m starting to agree with Sundance that we should not simply “rely” on The Plan. In fact, we may find it prudent to MAKE OUR OWN PLANS – if only because INDEPENDENCE is being taught to us again.
Now – having been sent on a bit of an emotional “ride” by the Soviet Fake News, which published information about McCabe WALKING, but without stating the OBVIOUS REASON, I have chosen to extract my payback by rubbing the Pinocchio nose of the Fake News in THAT OBVIOUS REASON.
If you have been following our WORKING THREADS here, then you, too, know the obvious reason.
McCabe drops his suit against FBI and DOJ
almost at the same time, Barr announces that Durham is now a CRIMINAL investigation
later, DOJ announces no charges or further legal action against McCabe
Now, before I GO THERE, I want to first thank fellow Q Tree denizen trumpismine for a link to information which explained much of the FIRST two items in the list. I also want to thank three of the many people on this site – JasonD, michaelh, and Gail Combs – who proved very strongly that the DOJ has an irrefutable CASE against McCabe – that guidelines clearly call for charges.
So HERE is where we get into the meat of our accusation against the mainstream media.
We all know that the [recused] Sessions DOJ tried strongly to not only plug leaks, but to punish leaks, and to prevent new ones – and ultimately they did. The Rosenstein-Liu DOJ – not so much, with the James Wolfe leak going unpunished and covered up. Otherwise, a pretty tight ship.
But next to AG Barr, these previous DOJs look like SIEVES. AG Barr and Director Wray have PROVEN that they can keep a strong lid on investigations. Whatever you might think of these two, they have brought back the GOLD STANDARD of the old DOJ-FBI in terms of keeping ongoing investigations on the DOWN LOW. If you don’t respect it, you’re not paying attention.
This means, quite simply, that the reason we are not hearing leaks about “things” going on inside DOJ and FBI, is almost with complete certainty because they are running a TIGHT SHIP once again.
SO – IN THAT CONTEXT – if you combine the mysterious three items in the list above – [ 1 + 1 + 1 ] – there is no question what the answer is.
McCABE TOOK A DEAL.
And we’re not talking about a “deal” that involves getting an extra scoop of ice cream at a White House function. We’re talking about TALKING.
Let me spell this out so that even a CIA embed at the Washington Post like GUILTY SPYGATE HACK Devil N. Barrett can understand this.
Former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe is testifying against his superiors and others:
certainly James Comey
likely Loretta Lynch
probably John Brennan
certainly White House officials (remember Page/Strzok texts)
possibly Congressional aides
certainly the media contacts who understood the falsehoods being promoted
Oh, wait – wasn’t there some conspiracy theory about this called “QAnon” or something?
SHEESH!
Look, friends. It is ONE THING for us to sit here and talk amongst ourselves about all this stuff, but as far as I’m concerned, that is OVER. The FAKE NEWS trolled us with “McCabe No Charges”, when THEY KNEW THE TRUTH AND HID IT.
So now it’s time to take our ORDERS from TRUMP, as TRANSMITTED and TRANSLATED by Sundance:
President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.
Sundance
So that is what I’m doing. It is time to make these Fake News Bastards (whoops, sorry) print the truth about what is happening in SpyGate.
I mean, you wouldn’t want to drop this meme on Devil N. Barrett’s timeline.
Or this one:
Or especially this one:
Here’s to you, Ratseclisa. NOW I understand why I accidentally named you that.
W
PS – all of the above is stated CONFIDENTLY despite THIS BULLSHIT PSY-OP fed through Andrew McCarthy of the National Review to the contrary (and also laughingly at the last minute):
Yeah, right, you stupid hack footstool-bearer of Trotskyist pseudo-cons. SPARE ME. Don’t give me that complicated, hand-wringing, bu-bu-bu-bu-bu…. bullshit. Tell your idiot berg-bosses that STALINSKY and her COUP CREW still have an ice pick for them. GROW UP!
For you, Deep State Coup plotters, it’s TOO LATE. No more lies. You coup plotters are going DOWN. Your desperation is showing. Now you must LIVE YOUR FEAR OUT IN THE OPEN.
And for YOU, Media Muffins, there is NO MORE RESPECT as long as you are FAKE NEWS. Start telling the truth or GO DOWN WITH THE COUP.
How perfect is this? It’s going to be a big day. One for the record books. AND if you have ever had a hard time distinguishing differences between Repubs and Dems, try to imagine Bernie Sanders/Mike Bloomberg/ Liz Warren, or Amy and Pete, at the Daytona 500………. See what I mean? Live Link for the race:https://watchnewslive.tv/fox/
Air Force One, lining up for a flyover of the racetrack at Daytona 500.
This is CITIZEN Trump, with Melania and Justice Clarence Thomas at the Daytona 500 in 1999.
Crowds gather on the track before the start of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Daytona 500 race at the Daytona International Speedway in Daytona Beach, Florida February 24, 2013. REUTERS/Pierre Ducharme (UNITED STATES – Tags: SPORT MOTORSPORT) – RTR3E7TE
Yes, the President and First Lady will serve as Grand Marshall’s of the Daytona 500. President Trump will be the first President to utter the words, “Gentlemen, start your engines!”
There is nothing bigger in the racing world than Daytona. The SOUND of Daytona is what race fans find inescapable. It’s a deafening roar. It’s the sound of America, running at full speed, unapologetic and free, and we haven’t had the feeling in a long time. It’s time to have some fun. The visuals of our President, in the midst of powerful race cars, LOUD, masculine, skilled, fast, is diametrically opposed to the Democrat party of namby pamby and the politically correct. Of course, any vehicle nicknamed “The Beast” would be right at home at Daytona. It started as a rumor………… on Valentine’s night.
SCOOP: Multiple Sources tell @FoxNews that @realDonaldTrump is planning to take a lap at the @DISupdates Daytona International Speedway in the “Beast” presidential limo ahead of the Daytona 500. It’s not 100%, but that is the plan at the moment.
Who do you suppose will be the lucky driver within the Secret Service? Will they being drawing straws? Cuz YOU KNOW those boys and girls at Secret Service will have some serious competition behind the scenes to be the one driving The Beast at Daytona. I mean……….. this is heaven, it’s Daytona, sacred ground for any driver.
Of COURSE the car for the most powerful man in the world should be at Daytona, it’s like a “powerful car family reunion”. Natural fit. Makes perfect sense to me!
And there will be BEER, LOTS of beer,
and Airplanes flying overhead which can carry MISSILES to destroy our enemies,
and half naked women,
and masculine men, and loud cars……….everywhere.
It is a multiple triggering event for the the media and liberals…… an overload for the MSM.
It’s positively majestic.
If the Dems want a race in 2020……….. we will be happy to give them one. The Dems cannot even compete in this sphere. Our President takes every opportunity to remind the media, they don’t represent us. They don’t understand us.
You all better ice down the beers for this afternoon. We’re coming in ……….. HOT!! Kurt Busch, left, leads a pack of cars on pit road as they wait to go out on the track during a NASCAR auto race practice at Daytona International Speedway, Saturday, Feb. 8, 2020, in Daytona Beach, Fla. (AP Photo/John Raoux)
The Dems continue to come up short……. pardon the pun, and self-conscious, whiny, and bothersome.
The visual images to spring from this event will laser-etch into our memory, forevermore embedded. No, not even 5 billion of Bloomberg’s money can erase these images.
The Dems are headed for a pile-up in 2020, let’s hope. (Quick prayer for all the drivers today!)
While President Trump and our gracious Melania are headed to the Checkered FLAG! And doughnuts on the in-field.
It’s going to be a terrific day!
Feb 17, 2019; Daytona Beach, FL, USA; NASCAR Cup Series driver Denny Hamlin (11) celebrates after winning the Daytona 500 at Daytona International Speedway. Mandatory Credit: Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports ORG XMIT: USATSI-400133 ORIG FILE ID: 20190217_jfv_bv1_054.jpg
See you all at the starting line. Be ready to ride!!
Wave if you see a fellow Treeper!
DAYTONA BEACH, FL – FEBRUARY 22: Fans on the infield take in pre-race festivities for the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series 57th Annual Daytona 500 at Daytona International Speedway on February 22, 2015 in Daytona Beach, Florida. (Photo by Robert Laberge/Getty Images)
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Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will Be Done
If you have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ by the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit, then I have one question for you my friend: Do you hunger and thirst for more of God’s presence and power to saturate your soul and your sphere of influence? If so, then you would be blessed to continually offer up this simple prayer in faith to the Lord: “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done.”
Jesus presented those two powerful petitions to His disciples when He gave them “The Lord’s Prayer.” (Matt. 6:9-13) And it provides us with a beautiful template for all of our prayers. For example, here are some requests that cover key areas of our daily life and witness: “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in my family.” “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in my church.” “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in the lives of those I am seeking to reach for Christ.” “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done as I use the gifts you have given me to serve others.”
The kingdom of Jesus is established in every heart that receives Him as Savior and Lord. Christians are never called to build their own little kingdom, but rather, we are called to be willing vessels and loving agents of God’s grace and mercy in a world where many are deceived by the darkness rather than in love with the light. And since none of us are immune to the spiritual darkness of this world with its agenda and desires, we need the Lord to deliver us whenever darkness seems to be creeping into our own experience.
Man naturally strives to build his own kingdom, and each one of us naturally seeks to have “my will be done.” On the other hand, man by the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit longs to see Christ’s kingdom advance and the Lord’s will be done. This is part and parcel of receiving a new nature when you are born again through faith in the Messiah. And if you are born again, then you are also saved, justified, forgiven, and redeemed. As a child of the living God, it was definitely the Lord’s will for you to be saved from your sins. Likewise, “God wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4)
The strong desire to do God’s will is a gift in itself. A.W. Tozer said, “I am Thy servant to do Thy will, and that will is sweeter to me than position or riches or fame, and I choose it above all things on earth or in heaven.” Chuck Swindoll said, “God doesn’t work on our timetable. He has a plan that He will execute perfectly and for the highest, greatest good of all, and for His ultimate glory.” In order to “keep in step with the Spirit,” (Gal. 5:25) we need to pray often and believe that God hears us and will answer us according to His will. Everyone who trusts Christ as Savior belongs to the family of God, (John 1:12,13) and has the privilege of boldly approaching the throne of God’s grace with confidence and expectancy. (Hebrews 4:16)
Would you say that your life today is under the full control of Christ your King? Or have one or two areas slipped into the realm of darkness and deceit? Now is the time to renew your commitment to the King of Kings. Turn to Christ today as you pray: “Wash away my sin Lord Jesus. Fill me once again with the Holy Spirit. May thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in my life, my heart, my thoughts, my attitudes, my speech, my behavior, and my decisions.”
The more a believer loves the Lord, the more he or she wants God’s will to be done in their life. The Holy Spirit fans into flame not only our faith in Christ, but also our love for Christ and our heartfelt desire to do His will. “Do not put out the Spirit’s fire.” (1 Thess. 5:19) That is to say, do not say things or do things or dwell on things that grieve and quench the Holy Spirit’s work in your life as a Christian. “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God.” (Eph. 4:30)
Scripture instructs believers: “Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.” (Romans 12:9) This is a lofty calling, and can only be carried out when the Holy Spirit guides our thoughts, speech, and behavior. We are called to confess our sins to the Lord, and also to renounce them. (Prov. 28:13) We are to place anything that is dark in our life under the blood of Jesus that was shed for us 2000 years ago. By confessing our sin to the Lord and turning away from it, we experience renewal in our determination to work for God’s kingdom as we seek His will in everything.
How strong is your desire today to walk closely with God and continually converse with Him in prayer? If left to ourselves, we would have no motivation for this noble pursuit. But with Christ in our life through faith and with the Holy Spirit filling us with power, we find ourself being motivated daily to please the Lord in everything we do. God not only forgives our sins when we are born again, but He also gives us a new heart that desires to serve the One who saved us by His blood shed on the cross. What a loving and mighty God we serve!
We are invited by our gracious God to pray: “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” As we pray these words, we trust in our heart that the Lord will indeed answer us according to His will and in His perfect time. As we wait patiently upon God to fulfill His purpose for our life, our hearts are stirred as we meditate on Scripture and serve those God allows us to serve. Holy decisions bring about even more holy desires, whereas dark decisions produce even more darkness in our soul. The Christian life cannot be lived in neutral. If you are not going forward, you will begin to slide backwards. Spiritual darkness promotes disobedience and unrest, while the light of Christ enables us to see clearly and to “take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.” (2 Cor. 10:5)
Christ’s kingdom and God’s will are foundational for living the Christian life. Without the Lord, you and I would be lost in a sea of sinfulness and doomed for destruction. Thankfully, “God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through Him!” (Romans 5:8,9) At the cross, the kingdom of God ushered in eternal salvation for “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord.” (Romans 10:13) “He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son He loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” (Colossians 1:13,14)
And so you see my friend, it is definitely God’s will that you repent of your sin and trust Christ alone for salvation. It is the only way to be forgiven, saved, born again, justified, and redeemed. And once you are in God’s family through faith, you begin to do God’s will “on earth as it is in heaven.” One day, “you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:11) In heaven, you will experience things you didn’t know were possible, and you will be filled with a joy that exceeds your wildest imagination. (Psalm 16:11; 2 Cor. 12:1-4)
This is why it is foolish and reckless for anyone to underestimate or ignore God’s eternal kingdom and God’s perfect will. After all, “The wise in heart are called discerning,” (Prov. 16:21) and, “It is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.” (Prov. 19:21)
WARNING: Do not post on this thread unless you are addressing the purpose of the thread. All other responses will be sent to trash. No rah-rah, no Eeyore, no praise, no prayers, no Q (OK – we need a little on this one), no “[whatever] Trust [whatever]”, no whatever. Take it back to the Open Thread.
Highly general background responses linking things to the Roths and Freemasons are not helpful – UNLESS they put some communist Democrat DOJ prosecutor with a NAME in jail. Memberships are useful. Connections are useful. THAT’S what we need.
Also discounting of the effectiveness of this process is an instaban. We don’t need that shit. Go home to mommy. But just for a day.
Are we clear? Good.
PURPOSE: This thread is my best current theory on why DOJ had to let McCabe off.
Thanks to poster [trumpismine] for the documents which tipped me off to part of the basis of the theory.
TL;DR: McCabe is SES. For some reason, we rushed his departure, potentially violating SES protocols in what was undoubtedly a calculated-downside move. This opening was then used by McCabe to threaten DOJ with discovery they did not want, about McCabe’s more serious crimes, which would be required to justify the termination. Rather than tip our hand to the black hats, we let McCabe skate.
Please note that I am not able to read all comments to me, and may miss yours. We are going to move fast now – don’t assume I read your comments unless you actually get a LIKE or a REPLY from me. If neither, I probably didn’t see it. Like I said, we’re moving to warp speed. Drop it again if I need to see it, but it better be good. -W
It’s important to go read that link – it’s short. After you understand that we basically short-changed the SES “you simply cannot get rid of these fuckers” process, you will see this paragraph regarding McCabe attorney Michael “Dead Eyes” Bromwich:
In the words of Michael R. Bromwich, then-counsel for McCabe, the timeline for McCabe’s termination “was nothing short of extraordinary,” given that the process normally takes “many months, if not longer” yet here “was completed in 23 days.” McCabe and others have suggested he was targeted for his participation in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s then-ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign. In August of this year, McCabe sued the DOJ and FBI over his firing, accusing the agencies of bowing to political pressure from President Trump and forgoing required internal processes in order to expedite his dismissal.
Note that in a PRIOR paragraph, justifying this firing in defense of the lawsuit filed by McCabe and Bromwich against DOJ and FBI would have required detailing a more significant crime:
Key findings
According to documents provided in this latest release, senior agency officials like McCabe are entitled to 30 days of advance notice prior to being terminated. The only exception appears to be where there is “reasonable cause to believe the employee has committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment can be imposed[.]” The stated reasons for terminating McCabe do not involve such a crime, making this exception inapplicable here.
Thus, we see that McCabe had leverage on improper termination. Leverage with a specific nasty payload for the secretive Q team. This means that McCabe likely got a deal not [just] for cooperating, but [also] for dropping his lawsuit.
WHICH HE DID.
Breaking: Fired FBI Andrew McCabe Suddenly Drops Wrongful Termination Case Against DOJ
This comes after it was announced Thursday that Attorney General Bill Barr announced the John Durham probe is now a criminal investigation.
So we’re already seeing the connection to Durham here. I’ve gotta say, if Durham is FAKE and a PLANNED PUNT, they’re doing a hell of a job to fool us. But like I said elsewhere, that would be the exact same ploy they pulled on us in “shallow state”. I mean, we’re talking about an entire FAKE massive initiative. ALL FAKE. Thousands of people FOOLED.
Now – here is where it gets interesting. Bromwich alleges (of course) that the timing on the McCabe firing was POLITICAL. Sundance has even more details here. In my opinion, that’s an EXCELLENT THREAT, but it’s a falsehood that both sides understand, since the POLITICS OF SUCCESS are downstream from DUTY FULFILLED, and as long as duty is fulfilled, accrued political benefits (or liabilities) are utterly justifiable. Any accusation of political motive is like accusing a pregnant woman of simply wanting to get fat.
So DUTY justifies POLITICAL OUTCOME. What duty is that? – you might ask.
The duty of a deniable military schedule. McCabe needed firing for “Q-level” reasons. Bromwich knows this, but because of the left’s positioning on “Q”, he is every bit as unable to speak of it as are Sessions, Rosenstein or Barr. So the “threat” of political motive stands unopposed, by design. Note that Cankles does this all the time – this pinning of others against their secret obligations. It seems like a specialty of the left.
SO – does this let DOJ and FBI off the hook for cutting a deal with McCabe?
Maybe – if this theory is correct. But again – it’s just a theory. I have other theories, and they are not so happy, and much stronger now. After the Obama Deception, I’m all out of waiting for the end of the movie to figure out the plot.
Yes, great actors make a great movie. But so does a smart audience.
Get your popcorn now, during intermission. I can safely predict, you’re gonna need more.
