“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
I urge people to read both links – the DC article immediately above, and Sundance’s analysis.
In my opinion, we are now seeing an open civil war in the federal government. This is completely analogous to what happened when the communists in CIA, FBI and DNC (as well as Stefan Halper, snug as a bug next to Erlichman) entrapped President Richard M. Nixon, and the government as a whole did NOT know what to do. This was the communist-created “constitutional crisis” which actually started the kangaroo courts known as special counsels.
Allow me to explain some very important things.
If you observe the Robert Mueller Hoax Kangaroo Court, it is curious for these reasons:
Comey really did not have a reason to instigate a special counsel – the logic was weak
Rosenstein, likewise, had little reason to start one – there was no CRIME to begin with
It was started very quickly, which made little sense, as there was no rush b/c no crime
It has always appeared to be a fishing expedition for weird stuff or anti-Trump stuff
It always appeared to be looking for process crimes on the anti-Trump stuff
It always seemed to be trying to GENERATE crimes on the anti-Trump stuff
Some of the crimes that Mueller obtained plea bargains for were not even crimes
THAT is actually similar to what happened in Watergate, with CIA personnel
The goofy weird stuff was Russians, but not related to Trump
All Russians found seem to be related to the Democrats and Obama people
Fusion GPS is weirdly tied to the Russians and the attorney let in by Loretta Lynch
Mueller indicted Russian women who acted as internet provocateurs and trolls
Those women were living in now-infamous Broward County
Those women lived very near Nikolas Cruz
Those women were long gone when indicted
It is now becoming clear to me that the Mueller investigation had THREE primary but closely related purposes:
Try to find dirt on Donald J. Trump
Try to create a “Watergate-style Impeachment Bluff” to get Trump out of the White House
Cover up Democrat collusion with Russia (and China, but mostly Russia)
I have discussed John Podesta’s part of the collusion HERE, and – sadly – I believe that I have inadvertently caused MORE “Panic in DC” in doing so.
The reason is that I carefully articulated WHY the Democrats “accuse the other side of exactly what they are doing“. In doing so, I came VERY close to doing so SPECIFICALLY for the Mueller special counsel.
The reason that the Mueller special counsel is tasked with going after an accusation of Trump doing exactly what the Democrats were doing – under the PRETENSE of going after TRUMP for doing those things, is so that they can COVER UP themselves doing those things.
Stated differently, the Mueller special counsel was a way for Democrats to keep a footprint in government in order to cover up Democrat collusion with Russia.
Sundance spotted a while back that Mueller seemed to be trying to corral all the evidence needed for FISAgate. Yes – that was a brilliant insight.
And NOW we have THIS incident, where the FBI raids the whistleblower against Mueller and the FBI. Well, that sure sounds like all the FISAgate “evidence corralling” that Mueller has been doing, too.
Beyond THAT, I think it’s even worse. I think that Mueller has been going after ALL the evidence of ANY Democrat collusion with the Russians – including female internet provocateurs and trolls who live near mass shooters – and is covering up THAT evidence by “corralling” it.
SO – what I’m saying is that we now understand part of the benefit of accusing the “other side” of doing exactly what they were doing.
What we are talking about is a RACE TO THE EVIDENCE. There is nothing to get one there FASTER than having a window on the SAME crimes and the SAME evidence, but PROTECTED by DISINFORMATION.
But because we know that “collusion with the Russians” and “accuse the other side of exactly what they were doing” are in operation, that means that WHOEVER Mueller was going after is DANGEROUS to the Democrats. Even if we don’t recognize them.
Do you realize how mind-blowing this is? NOW we have a good explanation of why they came up with bogus stories like “Mueller is gathering all the evidence that Trump needs! Mueller is on Trump’s side!”
This kind of disinformation is POSSIBLE when you “accuse the other side of exactly what you are doing.”
WOW. Talk about CHUMPS. We was CHUMPS.
Sundance also spotted that AT LEAST SOME of the people saying “don’t worry – trust the plan” and/or various forms of “trust Sessions” and/or “trust Wray” were in fact buying time for a counterattack by the communists.
I now believe Sundance was 100% right.
Not everybody. Certainly not me. But some. I’m sure of it. Even if not CONSCIOUSLY, I think some were simply misled. An “overconfidence ploy” against Trump and his supporters.
And now you’ve got John O. Brenzhnev posting his Soviet demoralization tweets to go after POTUS and his supporters.
“THE NOIVE OF DAT MAN!”
This admission may sound very weird coming from somebody who Sundance kicked out of CTH commenting for being a “Q believer”, but I really think that Sundance is right that the other side is helping to push “Trust the Plan”.
However, it’s NOT THAT SIMPLE. I believe that OUR side is legitimately pushing patience, too.
What I think we have here is a case of two sides that are bought into a kind of massive poker game, and “going for the mid-terms” was on BOTH of their agendas. This is a MASSIVE mutual deception between the two sides. This is a GAME OF CHICKEN.
There are PATRIOTS saying “Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes! Patience! Give Trump time and freedom! Trust the plan!“
There are also DECEIVERS saying “Mueller is on our side, don’t worry! Trust the plan!“
BOTH SIDES have been driving toward the exciting conclusion.
So – Sundance is right. But so are we. Here is why I think this.
I think that the game is getting EXTREMELY intense. Mueller’s cover is ALMOST BLOWN. Rosenstein’s cover is ALMOST BLOWN.
BUT NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE FIRST HEAVY MOVE.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for us patriots to be divided.
And yes – there are some among us who are actually helping the other side. Helping to cover up Democrat-Russian collusion to help China and the “globalists” (really another long Soviet front) “peacefully” slide us into a socialist model similar to both China and Russia. Look at Europe. Sure doesn’t look like the “West” won now, does it? Freedoms from oppressive government are disappearing everywhere.
But you know what? I trust TRUMP. And I trust the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. I trust the MILITARY to back him up. And I trust that “Q” would have been frogmarched LONG AGO if he was working for the other team.
I am ALSO observing that the new demoralization trolls on CTH, who came out of nowhere and psy-opped Sundance, are all screaming to declassify now. I don’t trust them. Not one bit.
I trust TRUMP. CIC TRUMP.
SO – I think it would be a good idea for CTH to let the good people HERE who USED to help Sundance chase away all the demoralization trolls, chase away the current phalanx of demoralization trolls. But if not, I’ll keep the good guys safe here, until things become much clearer.
I personally think that having TWO MAGA CANNONS to fire at the communists beats having just one. So I will not abandon this fort, and I will always HELP CTH whenever I can.
All I DO know is this. Times just got a WHOLE LOT more interesting.
W
BOOM!
PS – now you understand why they took down Alex Jones. “Conspiracy theories”. LOL! He might say something that MADE SENSE.
How the Real Story of Russian Collusion Nukes Robert Mueller and the DNC with John Podesta
If you noticed the EERIE BLUE-VIOLET GLOW around John Podesta’s head in my little graphic, don’t worry. It’s not RADIATION, even though I just put that idea into your head and you can do NOTHING about that, because you read this sentence.
More about that in a moment.
While John Podesta is about to become RADIOACTIVE, that blue glow is only my BAD graphic skills, extracting his head from THIS PICTURE…..
HEIL HILLARY!
…..and putting it into THIS PICTURE……
“YAHOO! Cultural Marxism Away!”
Yet notice – most interestingly – that I made a DEFICIT – my poor graphical software skills in working propaganda against John Podesta – into an ASSET – by the power of SUGGESTION.
Beautiful, isn’t it? That implication – that mere suggestion of RADIATION makes you feel all ICKY – doesn’t it? You don’t even want to look BACK at that picture. Right? But maybe you do. And if you do, you get a kind of perverse, sick, dirty feeling out of it. Right? That GLOW.
You can thank the Soviet Union for ALL of this. Your preconceptions about nuclear energy. The PSYCHOLOGY of disinformation that I just used to TAINT John Podesta. The CYNICAL ability to find a way to turn a deficit into an asset. AND for my skills in disinformation. I learned from the MASTERS. Including Yuri Bezmenov, who tried ALMOST VAINLY to warn the West how most of the KGB was devoted to DISINFORMATION – the science of lies and deception – and relatively little to actual espionage.
I have had to LEARN to dig though disinformation to figure out what is happening in this world. WHY useful idiots but otherwise fairly intelligent conservatives like Mia Love (yes, she’s BLACK) are fooled by their sworn enemies……
……and why sharper conservatives with SOME experience as liberals, dupes, victims, or even radicals themselves, like former liberal Candace Owens (yes, she’s BLACK) are NOT FOOLED.
Imagine comparing the slaughter of 6 million Jews, plus the mandated murders of 1 million Rwandans— to immigrants who just want an upgrade and don’t want to follow any rules to get it.
This is an abhorrent, disrespectful tweet and your low-IQ is an unacceptable excuse for it. https://t.co/bR8hyfRvkD
Note that I have stashed away actual PICTURES of those tweets, because there is a grave likelihood that TWITTER will ban Ms. Owens soon, deleting the PUBLIC knowledge of her Twitter history, and CBS may be in a bit of trouble, too, thus likely to edit their own Twitter history. This is ALL part of the importance of INFORMATION and DISINFORMATION.
Other than the Bezmenov video above, I do not have time to educate all of you in the finer points of lies and disinformation in the service of socialism. I should really call it communism, but I want to sound like an expert on Soviet disinformation, so I will use the term socialism as disinformation. I’m even using Yuri Bezmenov’s accent in my head. I sound a bit like Ilya Kuryakin. This is quite fun, actually.
Where were we? Ah, yes. The REAL story on “Muh Russia”. By the way, I’m generally sympathetic to Russia as a nation and people – on a variety of issues, and for a variety of reasons. I’m actually a hardliner on Crimea being Russian, as it was, in my opinion, stolen from Russia and given to Ukraine in a corrupt process under the USSR.
None of that really matters here. The fact is, I simply don’t like certain forms of socialism, because they are not faithful to the truth, and I’m very big on Truth. You might even say I’m sworn in service to the spirit of Truth. So I have to tell you the TRUTH about “Muh Russia”.
It is NOT what the Fake News has been telling you.
There is a truism about the Democrats that actually solves this entire mystery, if you DARE to fully believe it. Like the idea that light has the same speed, no matter how fast you are moving with it, against it, or away from it – otherwise known as special relativity – it’s actually HARD to believe this idea about the Democrats.
Democrats accuse you of exactly what they are doing.
common expression
There is actually a strong parallel with relativity. It has to do with WANTING things to be true, when they are not.
Most of us WANT to think that speeds add simply and times don’t change depending upon your speed – worse yet your acceleration. We want a world where speeds combine in the simple linear manner of 2 + 2 = 4 and time A equals time B.
But Einstein finally accepted that speeds in this universe are BOUNDED, if the rule REALLY WAS that no speed could be greater than that of light – always constant – which in this case might be an arbitrary number like “6”.
Thus, speeds of 2 + 2 are in a complicated fashion less than the expected number of “4” so that speeds are always totaling to less than the “maximum” number of six. Einstein accepted the implications that nobody wanted to accept – that such simple additivity that we all feel intuitively, REALLY IS only true at low speeds. If the maximum is 6, 2 + 2 is NOT 4, so that 4 + 4 is still less than 6. And Einstein had the equations and predictions to prove it.
The disgust with relativity was profound. The Nazis called it “Jewish science”, but they were not the only ones who didn’t like it. Even as a CHILD, long after the the world had defeated the Nazis, I observed that AMERICANS both within and outside of science remained somewhat – one might even say properly – skeptical of general relativity and its fantastic predictions, which were even more bizarre than special relativity.
Relativity is weird shit. It is HARD to accept. It doesn’t FEEL GOOD unless you study the HELL out of it to FIND THE BEAUTY.
The truth of Democrat collusion with the Soviet Union, and later Russia, is weird shit, too. It is HARD TO ACCEPT. But there is also some beauty in it too, if you are willing to accept some odd ideas that go along with it.
First of all, it helps to be forgiving. Collusion is not a crime. Trump repeats this for a reason. Only crimes are crimes. If one colludes to commit a crime, that is one thing, but colluding to do “good things” only becomes criminal if the means stray outside the law.
Sadly, we may find some of that. But not so much that we have to say “all Democrats are horrible communists and must be punished”. Not at all. In fact, I think the number of guilty will be surprisingly small, and their CRIMES will be clear. They will not be ideological crimes. They will be REAL crimes. Most criminals will not even be prosecuted. Don’t take my word for it. Q said this. So did FBIanon. They didn’t say it so coldly and antithetically, or in so many words, but do the math. It smacks of reality as well.
Back to “collusion”, which is not a crime per se.
The reasons that it is hard to accept Democrat-Russian collusion are as follows. These speak very strongly to how the disinformation works.
We don’t want Trump-Russia collusion to be true. The EASY way out of this accusation is to NOT make a similar accusation back against the Democrats. This is PSYCHOLOGY. Make it all GO AWAY by not saying that there is ANY collusion.
We don’t want Democrat-Russia collusion to be true. It’s rather scary, in some ways. The EASY way out of this reality is to say that their accusation of Russia-Trump collusion is “overblown” and “unreal”, which means the same for Democrat-Russia collusion. This is PSYCHOLOGY. Make it all GO AWAY.
We don’t want Russia to be the bad guy. If Russia is still a bad guy, that means
America is alone
“NeverTrump” Russophobes are suddenly RIGHT (in some ways) about Russia
Trump’s odd coalition of Russophiles, war-weary, battered conservatives, Tea Party, fiscal bleeding-edge American renewal enthusiasts, anti-Bush-dynasty, Reagan retreads, and all the rest, might be threatened
We have to adjust our thinking in profound ways
Russia may not even be the bad guy, if it’s complicated
What about China?
“splodeyhead”
These are just SOME of the reasons we don’t want this stuff to be true. We don’t even want to think about this stuff. Which, indeed, I have observed very strongly in Republicans and Trump supporters. There has been a lot of awakening. How much MORE is coming?
It gets bigger. There are many implications. Q uses “avalanche” terminology (D5) for a reason. The whole thing is somewhat like the avalanche model. We have reached a critical point, and there will be some slide. But hopefully it will be managed properly
history books will have to be rewritten
fake news will be revealed for what it is
information flows will change in massive ways
If you’ve been paying any attention to “Q”, then you know this is true. If you DENY “Q”, then you are going to be in for some surprises, and even shocks. Sorry about that.
But NOW – for all of those NEGATIVES – there is one great ADVANTAGE to accepting them.
It SOLVES everything. All the MYSTERIES of “Russiagate” / “Muh Russia” are solved.
And MUCH, MUCH MORE. They don’t call it the “Great Awakening” for nothing.
The thing is, this Great Awakening changes relatively FEW of the facts. What it DOES do is change our PERCEPTION of them.
SO – what I want you to do is BEAR WITH ME, and THINK IT POSSIBLE – just temporarily – that the maxim is correct:
Democrats accused Trump of doing exactly what they did.
What Democrats accused Trump of was colluding with Russia to win the election.
Therefore, we begin with: Democrats colluded with Russia to win the election.
We begin with the key player who makes this all work. John “Skippy” Podesta.
John “Skippy” Podesta had ONE of his email accounts hacked by Russia. The emails appeared on Wikileaks. I am absolutely, 100%, positive that Russia did it, just like Podesta and all the other Democrats are saying. The reason I am sure is that the SCAM works best if Russia actually did it.
Yes, it also fits our little relativistic maxim rather nicely, but that’s begging the question. Let’s look deeper.
There is no lie like the TRUTH misinterpreted. That is the CORE of disinformation. So let’s examine the truth – the FACTS – very closely.
I was never convinced that Podesta’s email hack was fully legitimate. Something was wrong with it. It was TOO clean. And you are hearing this from one of the people who researched it VERY heavily. I spent much time going through it, after it hit Wikileaks, and even for a while after it blew up into the semi-absurd “PizzaGate”.
Oh, now THAT was a beautiful disinformation operation as well. Is PizzaGate real? Is PizzaGate false? I’ll say this – it’s COMPLICATED and that complication is very intentional. But let’s not get distracted by ALL of the interesting disinformation goals that John “Skippy” Podesta achieved in this plot. Back to the TRAIL.
For starters, there was no criminal content of ANY kind in the Podesta dump. Nothing immediately criminal – not even anything that was really scandalous. Oh, there was the “pizza map walnuts hotdogs” bullshit, but I can file that into TWO major possibilities – yeah, it’s real but worthless evidence, and – yeah, it’s crazy over-interpretation of NOTHING. Even the “Scalia 186” / “wet works” stuff is NOTHING from the point of view of HARD EVIDENCE. Even all the embarrassing reporter contacts – STILL NOTHING. Even the weird E.T. stuff was INBOUND, not OUTBOUND. I even found what I thought was a smoking gun on Vatican influence by Podesta via his crony companies, and it turns out that I had mixed up BUSINESS Tara with CHURCH Tara. It was a NOTHINGBURGER.
Bottom line, there was nothing there. It was clean. TOO clean.
The fact that Podesta had protected his email account with a too-simple password is suspicious as hell, because it serves two disinformation objectives. It says “I have nothing to hide”, and it says “I’m a dope”, which clearly he is not. There is also the incident where his secretary opened some suspicious phishing email due to a miscommunication. Supposedly the Russians got in THAT WAY, too.
Doesn’t matter to me. I BELIEVE that the Russians did it. But I also believe that this was part of John Podesta’s PLAN. A very simple but effective plan, that worked for both the DNC and himself.
Insider compromise
Communication of natural targets and simple plan to Russia
Disinformation managed by Democrats
Now – I tried to tell people that I thought Podesta WANTED this email dump to happen, to frame Trump, but one of my most trusted opinions – a gal who goes by the online moniker of “wheatietoo“, felt that there WAS something nasty in those emails – a vague threat to “make an example of a suspected leaker” – who at that time everybody believed was Seth Rich.
This idea was everywhere, and had real mindshare. Even Wikileaks helped promulgate this idea, as you can see in this tweet by Wikileaks.
However, there are HUGE problems with this email having ANY significance.
If we look at it rationally, it means absolutely nothing. Even if there was a video of Podesta shooting Seth Rich in the streets of Washington, this email would be laughed out of court because firing a leaker or prosecuting a leaker or even taking away their parking privileges is well within its meaning to a reasonable jury. This email is like all the rest of the dump. Nothing.
This email was sent LONG before the DNC hack was even KNOWN, and quite possibly before the Russians had even entered the DNC system.
It is not talking about DNC hacks or leaks. It is talking about Hillary campaign officials in the FUTURE speaking to the PRESS or otherwise blabbing. So my vote is on parking privileges – maybe firing.
Can you believe that Wikileaks is promoting disinformation? Hmmmmmm.
Could Wikileaks be shilling for monetary support using Seth Rich?
Could Wikileaks be teasing and misleading?
Did Wikileaks know that Roger Stone was being misled?
Yes, it’s complicated, isn’t it?
What we did with this email was assigning our own meaning to a shiny object.
Now – isn’t that interesting. A shiny object. Podesta’s email hack – itself a shiny object – was literally just a bunch of shiny objects.
NOW – the trick here is to do the same thing we did earlier with accepting our starting point – which was an example of overcoming an Alinsky fear by ACCEPTING THE SCARY TRUTH.
Earlier, we accepted the scary proposition that the Democrats colluded with the Russians. NOW let’s accept the scary idea that PODESTA FOOLED US ALL like utter chumps – like children – like idiots. He left open an account full of shiny objects, the Russians hacked it as part of the plan, and we chased all the worthless shiny objects for a good part of the election.
We. Were. Idiots.
Accept it. Accept the scary truth.
Why do we do this? Because THAT is how we dig PAST the emotional blockade which EVERY scam uses to make you STOP DIGGING. People don’t report scams because they were not just suckers, but GREEDY, STUPID SUCKERS. It’s embarrassing. EMBRACE IT.
So – we admit that we were LOOKING FOR DIRT, FOUND NOTHING, and we were FOOLS.
So now I ask a few questions. A few simple questions.
WHAT were they fooling us about?
WHY were they fooling us?
HOW did they fool us?
For every shiny object, we ask this question.
I won’t get into PizzaGate, and E.T., and all the rest. I have excellent ideas in ALL those cases. But in the case of “making an example of the suspected leaker”, I will point out certain things.
If this is MISDIRECTION, it leads us AWAY from a hack
If this is MISDIRECTION, it misleads that Podesta was not THINKING of a hack
If this is MISDIRECTION, it misleads that Podesta is angry about a leak, not a hack
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. I am NOT saying that the DNC job was a leak, like so many Trump supporters WEAKLY contend. I’m saying that this Podesta email was misdirection to pretend “no early knowledge” of the DNC hack on Podesta’s part. I’m saying that the DNC job was a hack, and a hack by the Russians, exactly like the Democrats and Crowdstrike say. And at earlier times, before the hacks, when John “Skippy” Podesta curated his hackable email address for HIS part of the Russian hacks, he made sure his email trove had no hints about hackers. Or anything else, other than shiny objects that would not truly harm their side.
John “Skippy” Podesta was NOT thinking of hacks. No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, right.
Now – about the DNC hack. Described HERE in the middle of 2016:
I’m saying it was almost exactly like the hack on Podesta – same thing – Russians – and I say this KNOWING that there is a fairly elegant but logically incomplete disproof of a hack, which I will now explain and correct, before the Democrats “miscorrect” it into nonsense.
A bunch of patriotic cyber and intelligence guys and gals on the RIGHT got together and showed, rather nicely, that the speeds of the file creation in the DNC hack indicate that the data was *compressed* (very important) locally and not over a network connection. In other words, the data was compressed within hardware at the DNC, and THEN shipped wherever it went. The files did not leave one location over a network and get compressed on the other end, in another location like, say, Russia.
For the life of me, I cannot figure out how anybody can think that this in any way disproves a hack. A remote view hack of the DNC basically gives a hacker LOCAL CONTROL. It’s almost like they are sitting right there in the room, except their monitor and keyboard are in – say – RUSSIA. What hardware are they operating? LOCAL hardware! (Local to the DNC, that is.) What are they doing? Why, they’re compressing the files locally! Just like a local person! And all of it is utterly asynchronous to their display in, say, Russia. (Which means there is no problem because of the distance.)
Now, the authors of this technically competent but criminally negligent proof (I mean that in the nicest way – these people are NOT good criminals) try to say that the evidence fits compression directly to a USB drive. Logically, this is a bridge to far for me, because they know as well as I do that the data fits compression to almost ANY local hardware in the right configuration, and they are schmoozing the conclusion toward the suspected Seth Rich scenario, but WHAT THE HECK – let’s just allow the hackers to scour the network, find a USB drive, and perform the compression on THAT computer directly to THAT drive, then move the compressed files back to wherever they need to go and send them on to RUSSIA. Then they GTHO.
This is NOT HARD. This is incredibly easy. This is a NORMAL REMOTE ACCESS HACK. Now, I could get all “USB” on this theory, and have some colluding Democrat put the USB drive into the computer for the Russians, but OCCAM’S RAZOR says it was just a HACK and that is that. Most likely, there was never a USB drive involved – just local hardware, as PROVEN. The Russians hacked in – AS PLANNED – got the data – compressed it locally – got the data OUT – and LEFT.
So now we are left with a question – to which I already had the answer. How did Seth Rich enter the picture?
Seth Rich was a WITNESS in a LAWSUIT against the DNC for FRAUD. The lawsuit was extremely bad for HILLARY CLINTON. The case actually AROSE from the DNC hack, as an unfortunate (for Hillary) consequence of the fact that it was clear she cheated Bernie out of any chance of the nomination. As Seth was a “Bernie bro”, the fact that he was called as a witness was NOT good for Hillary. He was a liability.
It is my contention that Seth Rich would be alive today if he had never been named as a witness in this case, or if the case had never been brought to court. BUT – here is the thing. I don’t really NEED this to be true, for Seth Rich’s death FOR ANY REASON to be useful to John “Skippy” Podesta.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are absolutely notorious for the fact that witnesses against them seem to have terrible luck prior to their testimony. Exactly WHEN the bad stuff happens may vary, but it always happens before they testify, and usually long before.
But AS I SAID, I don’t need Seth Rich’s death to be anything but a lucky coincidence, and thus an AMAZING piece of potential disinformation. ALL that DNC disinformation cadres needed to do was to plant the “Seth Rich / DNC / Wikileaks” meme in a few places on the right and voila! It grew like CRABGRASS.
Of course, if Seth Rich actually WAS killed to prevent his testimony in the DNC FRAUD CASE (sounds like a big deal to me), then – well, will ya look at that – linking his death to SOMETHING ELSE would have MOTIVE. Better yet, something that would be DENIED HALF-TRUTHFULLY by Democrats and SUPPORTED WRONGLY by Republicans and Trump supporters.
Does that sound like a good deal for Democrats? Maybe even good enough to make sure to leave a shiny object email that might mislead people to it?
And in fact, you would have TWO SCANDALS cancelling each other out – PROTECTING each other. Which is, you will learn, a wonderful principle of disinformation.
This whole thing is now a beautiful example of what I call “Eckert’s Law”.
When the cause of an operation is too advanced or too subtle to be detected by an adversary, Occam’s razor will point them to the most likely known potential cause, and this will be accepted and defended by them as the logical explanation.
Eckert’s Law
Disinformation will CHANGE what you think is the “simplest explanation” of something. Therefore, disinformation can help you get the WRONG result from Occam’s razor.
Even better, psychologically constructed disinformation will make you WANT to accept it, like a DRUG, when the TRUTH is more painful, yet leads to a better place in the end. So you will be tempted to CHEAT Occam’s razor by altering your own view of the world.
Are you starting to see it now? Are you willing to accept the PAIN?
The PAIN of KNOWING?
Now – after all this possibility has been put in front of you – after this deep dive – come up for air. Throw away all the complications that I’ve loosened, and ask yourself a simple question.
Who colludes with Russians? The LEFT or the RIGHT?
What people are not seeing here is that the simple answer of today is the SAME simple answer that has always been true. Democrats and Russians go back. They have a long history helping each other. Ignore the Fake News, pounding OVER and OVER with some counter-intuitive narrative about Trump and the Russians and how they wanted to help him beat the woman who gave them uranium at a STEAL and then covered it up.
Good grief! It’s crap!
If one of the two major parties is going to collude with the Russians, which one is it going to be?
You always knew the answer. It’s going to be the Democrats.
How will they collude in an election? Probably against the Republican candidate.
How will the Russians get the opposition files on the Republican candidate to help the Democrats? By hacking into the DNC and taking them, just like Crowdstrike found.
How will the colluding parties deceive us? By LIES, by DISINFORMATION, by accusing the other side of what they are doing, and by HOAXING.
Who does HOAXING?
DEMOCRATS.
We don’t have to change any of the facts. We just have to change how we see them logically. And in this case, we have to change how we see them, BACK TO REALITY.
THIS is the true nature of disinformation.
THIS is why they are – indeed – Fake News.
W
Hollywood. Trust me – we know something about disinformation.
Looks like Soros, Venezuela, Russia, China, and the Communist DNC just walked into a trap. By turning the border into a legitimate crisis – their WET DREAM – they unintentionally turned it into a bona fide national security issue – perfect for our VSGPOTUS to deal with in a more straightforward and Communist-proof fashion.
Notice how the Communists JACKED UP the problem, and then when it got here, realizing their MISTAKE, they tried to tamp down all messaging – all photos and videos? Seems like they figured out too late that they got set up.
Trump Boomerang Effect. The Democrat Fake News deserves no less.
Now we go on to those other 3 posts.
Here is the image of the referenced Q post within Post 2499, shown more closely.
That post (the “Nothing can stop what is coming.” post) contained a reference to the well-known “Trump vs. The Establishment” video. The post also put the CLINTON FOUNDATION straight in the crosshairs. WELCOME TO FBIAnon. I always thought that FBIAnon was the beta test for QAnon. Now I think they were more like Part A the warm up and Part B the SHOW.
Back to the rest of the post.
Or in text:
Everything stated has a purpose. Think timing of Tweet (above) v last drops [HouseOfCards] re: Maggie NYT re: WL ‘Maggie’ drops re: WL attack re: ‘Q’ Do you believe in coincidences? Be ‘extremely’ vigilant in Dec. See something. Say something. EXTREME PANIC IN [DC] WWG1WGA! Q
Q Post 2499
Note that a Trump tweet is referenced:
The same tweet as an active text embedding, for those who need text.
Clinton Foundation donations drop 42% – which shows that they illegally played the power game. They monetized their political influence through the Foundation. “During her tenure the State Department was put in the service of the Clinton Foundation.” Andrew McCarthy
An amazing tweet. Trump calls out the Clinton Foundation, and basically says (by quoting Andrew McCarthy) that the STATE DEPARTMENT was at its beck and call.
Remember who became Secretary of State AFTER Hillary’s embeds RESISTED former SoS Rex Tillerson, in regard to providing evidence to investigators. No such problems with Secretary Pompeo. Note that this picture was taken during questioning of Secretary Hillary Clinton.
Now we understand ONE of the reasons that Tillerson was replaced. The WITCH could not be prosecuted without STATE providing EVIDENCE to HUBER.
DONE.
Next, Maggie Haterman, the Politico flack (“Tee-em-up Maggie”) elevated to the NYT just for Hillary Clinton’s use before Hillary’s ascension, is referenced. Q calls attention to the timing of the tweets.
Maggie, Minion of the Hildabeast, was allowed to attack Trump, Q and the prosecution, and NOW Trump and Q drop bombs to show that THE MEDIA is not journalism, but (IMHO) DEFENDERS OF COMMUNISM.
Lastly, a very disturbing warning.
Be ‘extremely’ vigilant in Dec. See something. Say something. EXTREME PANIC IN [DC] WWG1WGA! Q
“Extreme panic in [DC]”
This means the PANIC is bigger than it was earlier. The first “Panic” posts were made around 9/11, and those were “frisky” times.
Huber testifying. Comey testifying. Yeah. This means a LOT of people are worried about skeletons in closets.
And THAT explains the WARNING to be “extremely” vigilant.
Thankfully, we have this EASILY WATCHED venue called The Q Tree now, don’t we?
“See something. Say something.” So much EASIER to do that, now that we’re free of the troublemakers at CTH, is it not? Why, it’s rather remarkable in hindsight. Maybe we’re SUPPOSED to be here.
It’s worth considering.
Next, the very monumental Post 2500.
This post quotes the prior one, and includes THIS new section:
The post deals mostly with Corsi, who is stated to have attempted to infiltrate Q, and it looks like he was doing so on Mueller’s behalf. This is then linked up to the idea that many of the people who “left” the White House did NOT have a choice. They were FAKE NEWS, FAKE MAGA.
As Q says – TRANSPARENCY IS THE ONLY WAY.
Patriots united. BOOM.
Finally, Post 2501.
The first part reviews what we know about classification NOT being able to hide crimes, errors, inefficiency, etc. Surprisingly, OBAMA make this Executive Order in 2010. There is indeed a bit of karma there.
The second part is the new information:
The big picture here is that Q is saying that Whitaker and the OIG (Horowitz) have approved the release of the FISA documents as requested by the HOUSE and ORDERED by Trump.
But will they be released BEFORE or AFTER the D5 testimony? Yeah. Think about THAT STUFF. There is useful ambiguity here – which may INFLUENCE testimony.
Finally, the points of conflict with the UK and AUS are noted – that these countries were in truth only allied with PART of the United States – “selected divisions”, as Q calls them.
The Dems? Deep State? Let me tell you, I actually *KNOW* about this selective collaboration – these “selected divisions”. I was never regarded as part of them – I do know that. In fact, I was TARGETED BY and USED BY those “selected divisions” and their foreign allies.
So things are going to be interesting to me in particular. VERY interesting.
I do NOT think that [Koala] means Cuddly Kudlow. I know that much. Pretty sure it’s a PLACE and maybe a COUNTRY and maybe SELECTED DIVISIONS.
One final point. Post 2499 references Post 2498 containing a link to THIS Maggie Haberman tweet:
Or as an embedded tweet:
OH on the Q train intercom: "Attention passengers. The intercom phone is for emergencies only, it is not for asking the conductor questions."
The basic meaning (where OH = “overheard”) is as follows:
Overheard on the intercom in the Q train: “Attention passengers. The intercom phone is for emergencies only, it is not for asking the conductor questions.”
Maggie Haberman, Twitter, Nov 20, 2018
Maggie MAY just be toying with Q supporters – the usual NYC snark. I thought it was cute and funny. But this woman is a friend of Hillary Clinton. She can’t be so stupid not to realize that Hillary Clinton is not a nice person. So it could be a “code-speak” message. And if it IS some kind of code, OH could be OHIO. But I can’t really see much more than that.
I’m interested in other interpretations. This is somewhat unusual. Maggie NYT may actually be passing information of some kind to somebody. So your thoughts are appreciated.
That is all. Let’s discuss.
W/WWG1WGA
IN GOD WE TRUST Because God not only HAS a plan – God IS a plan. In fact, GOD is THE plan.
THIS particular GIFT OF FAITH is rooted in logic, experience, and observation, so ANYBODY can find strength in it.
So gather round, my MAGA friends.
I am detecting CONCERN.
I am detecting WORRY.
I am detecting STUPID DEMORALIZATION.
And all because of THIS GUY?
PUH-LEAZE!
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Robert Mueller (L) laughs alongside Attorney General Eric Holder (R) and Deputy Attorney General James Cole (C) during a farewell ceremony in Mueller’s honor at the Department of Justice on August 1, 2013. Mueller is retiring from the FBI after 12-years as Director. AFP PHOTO / Saul LOEB (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)
Yes – THAT Robert Mueller.
The corrupt piece of shit who “successfully” went after all the wrong people for DECADES.
And who gave us THIS masterful work of American counterintelligence against Russia and China.
FILE – In this Feb. 11, 2007, file photo, adult film actress Stormy Daniels arrives for the 49th Annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, is suing President Donald Trump and wants a California judge to invalidate a nondisclosure agreement she signed days before the 2016 presidential election. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles, File)
Oh, yeah. We need to be scared of THAT guy, because the FAKE NEWS MEDIA says so.
Well, I made a RULE for myself, and if EVERYBODY in MAGA follows it, then TRUMP CANNOT LOSE.
It depends upon perception, reality, and the eventual alignment of these things, under COMMON SENSE and HONEST SCRUTINY.
I discovered this important and incredibly useful rule, back during a communist propaganda event that you may remember.
By following along CLOSELY….
…..I was able to help a large number of persistent ANONS (under an ENORMOUS amount of KGB-CIA and Marxist fire, mind you) actually REVERSE the fake narrative, from a supposedly organic right-wing event to a left-wing propaganda honeypot, complete with an enormous cast of shady and face-palmy characters like “Maroon Van Lady”, who set up the road blockade.
And that was just practice.
There was LAS VEGAS….
….the collapse of which narrative was STUNNING (and I look forward to a FULLY REFORMED FBI eventually releasing the REAL story on it)….
…and there was PARKLAND….
….where we not only PROVED our “conspiracy theory” of a STAND-DOWN, but even forced the other side to THREATEN the politicians on our side….
…..which accidentally BLEW their cover on a prior case of physically obtained leverage control….
…..in a very old scandal I have now thrust back in their faces as a named entity – the CONSPIRACY TO ADVANCE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION (or CA3 for short)…..
CA3 – The Conspiracy to Advance Affirmative Action
….that was an integral part of the setup for THIS….
…..which led to this…..
…..by way of this…..
…..which is explained very deeply in THIS article…..
…..and THAT does not even include the fact that CA3 is deeply connected back to THIS….
…..via THIS…..
…..and this…..
…..
……and this…..
…..and this…..
……SO…..
If you think “Mueller” is going to WIN any round here, you are sorely mistaken.
My rule is simple. It is simple for simple reasons.
THEY LIE. THEY HOAX. They use ALINSKY FEARS.
The ONLY THING that YOU and I and our VSGPOTUS (and Q – don’t forget Q) need to BEAT these wicked communists is TIME. Time for the TRUTH to come out. And all we have to do during that time is LOOK FOR THE TRUTH.
My rule is simple.
90 DAYS of 100% TRUST in President Donald J. Trump.
During that time, I will look for the truth.
Whenever they hit OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP with some ridiculous “end of the Trump presidency” bullshit, I simply take 90 days (never fully needed, by the way) to look for the truth.
For some really odd reason, the LIARS and HOAXERS always turn out to be LYING and HOAXING – and Trump turns out to be still President – or even MORE deserving to be President – because THEY are even MORE terrible, and OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP didn’t do anything worthy of him NOT being President.
SO…..
Yeah. Trump isn’t just going to win. It’s gonna be EXCITING and FUN when we bust these evil bastards even BIGGER than everything I just told you. Because EVERYTHING THEY DO boomerangs via the Trump Boomerang Effect.
Enjoy the show. Put on your glasses. Nuclear sunlight is coming. 😎
W
“Bombshells are going to fall. There will be liberation.”
Everything that was done in the VLWC was done with ONE PURPOSE.
In the end, there is ONE PRINCIPLE that they used to justify doing ALL the things they did without your permission.
Without OUR permission.
Without MY permission.
Without YOUR permission.
They did not believe that ANY permission was necessary.
When they asked, it was deception.
When they said it was something else, they said they didn’t need to ask.
When they didn’t ask at all, they hid the fact.
So they did it.
They just did it.
They did ALL of it.
Including….
Globalism.
Climate hoaxing.
Election cheating.
Open borders.
Lying.
Stealing.
Abusing.
Giving away our secrets.
Refusing to turn over the reins of power.
Destroying the military.
.@realDonaldTrump on @BarackObama: "I'll never forgive him for what he did to our United States military by not funding it properly. It was depleted. Everything was old and tired and I came in and I had to fix it and I'm in the process of spending tremendous amounts of money." pic.twitter.com/ABQx2YvuyL
Colluding with Russia (and then saying TRUMP did it).
Giving Crimea to Russia, while pretending Russia stole it.
Welfare out of control.
Destruction of the middle class.
ANTIFA.
Black Lives Matter.
Revolution.
Manhattan, New York. The Stop Mass Incarceration demonstration. The film director Quentin Tarantino and Revolutionary Communist Party USA member, Carl Dix with some of the victims’ relatives.
Every SINGLE LAST THING that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama did.
Because…..
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
I’m going to let YOU ALL add things to the list.
Add ANY ONE THING that fits into THIS REASON…
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
“AMERICANS HAVE CERTAIN ABILITIES. OTHERS HAVE NEEDS. MY FOLLOWERS DID NOT WAIT FOR YOUR PERMISSION. THEY DID NOT NEED IT. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND?”
There are things that they did of which I am aware that may NEVER come out. These acts are probably in the 60% Q talks about never coming out. This is one of the reasons I “believe in” Q, by the way. I know that he is right about something that only certain people would know.
I could not understand why they did these things, or why they were allowed to happen. I could not understand why they WOULD do them. Now I understand why. They never even felt the need to ask. They just did them.
One of THE BEST windows into Russia’s REAL position on the 2016 election is Vladimir Putin’s “NRA spy”, Maria Butina. Yeah, I will admit that I think this gal is smoking hot, in a Euro-floozy, Moscow-to-Washington-to-Tennessee, mail-order mama, “I fell in love at a gun show” way.
But that’s not the only reason I love this woman. Oh, no. This lovely Cabela’s version of Anna Chapman is proof that there are places SO far out of Russian expertise in espionage and disinformation, that any action in them betrays EXACTLY what Putin is up to.
As far as I’m concerned, this woman NAILS DOWN the idea that the Democrats and Russia were colluding to prevent Donald Trump from winning the presidency, and if that failed, to get him removed from office.
I hate to say this – I know it breaks a lot of dreamy bubbles about “fellow nationalist” Putin, including my own – but Putin would rather OWN or ELIMINATE the Trump Presidency than make tough deals with it – what with old asset Hillary and crew so ready to make those EASY DEALS – ya know? – and since OWNING the Trump White House is unlikely if not impossible, ELIMINATING the Trump White House is safer.
Why this woman is not part of the Mueller probe was a mystery to me at first, but now I get it. She is the proof that the Russians and the CIA/FBI treason complex – totally separately – had EXACTLY THE SAME OBJECTIVE. Put Russians next to Donald Trump, so the Democrats could take him out.
You think Mueller wants anybody seeing that? Nah. Not a chance.
Look at that happy face! You CANNOT fake gun lovin’ like that. This one is a keeper, boys!
Maria Butina’s greatest asset was her AUTHENTICITY. That is key to understanding why she was so useful. Because she AUTHENTICALLY wants “gun reform” in Russia – meaning a right to keep and bear firearms – absolutely the opposite position of everybody who has ever held power in Russia since the communist revolution of 1917 – she made a perfect DUPE to send against Trump.
Now – the “party line” of EVERYBODY on this Butina broad is exactly her Russian cover – WHICH SHE ACTUALLY BELIEVED. That cover story is that she was trying to make cozy contacts with the Trump administration in the interest of furthering everybody’s interests. Presumably, Butina thought that she could advance her cause of gun rights at home, by helping her government get cozy with a gun-friendly administration in America. Makes sense – right? Trump wins better relations with Russia, Russia wins better relations with Trump, and gun rights for everybody!
“Diplomacy! Hooray! It’s FUN!”
Well, if you believe this story, I would like to sell you shares of Chuck Schumer’s garage.
Seriously, her cover story is just DUMB. However, I must admit, that thanks to decades of FAKE NEWS, most Americans are sheep ready to be fleeced.
Why would Russia settle for a wee bit of GUN-FRIENDLY with Donald Trump – knowing the Russians don’t even LIKE guns – when they can TAINT Trump – and then OWN him or REMOVE him by those exact same contacts?
Vladimir Putin is many things, but he is NOT stupid. The Russians were not sending this woman into the NRA for any good reason. And you would be very smart to assume it is the WORST reasons – to BRING DOWN Trump, BRING DOWN the NRA, BRING DOWN the Second Amendment, and BRING DOWN our current state of Freedom in the United States. None of which Maria Butina had any idea about, because she’s the PERFECT DUPE.
Before we get to the deep reasons of WHY Putin would do these things, we need to reflect on the fact that the fall of the Iron Curtain did NOT put power back in the hands of the PEOPLE of Russia. I’m not saying it SHOULD – that is THEIR BUSINESS. Russia is not the United States. But the fact that perestroika DID NOT fully return power to the people, shows the kind of government we are dealing with, when we deal with Putin.
If you have any doubts about Putin’s ideas on gun control, recall how he blamed the recent mass shooting in Crimea on American attitudes toward guns.
Mass shooting in Crimea? What? You didn’t hear about that? Then read up….
Searches on this incident (e.g., “mass shooting Crimea”) betray a curiously lower American press interest than one might normally expect for 20 dead and 70 wounded.
Typically, our stupid fake news media knee-jerks on all shootings according to prior rules of “the narrative”. Depending on who does the shooting, it MAY be reported heavily, or it may not. It MAY be blamed on the gun, or it may not. It MAY be blamed on mental illness, or it may not. However, in this case, there was really no precedent for a shooting in Putin’s Russia, much less in “stolen” Crimea. And worst of all, Putin sounded suspiciously like a Democrat, and definitely NOT like Trump.
In fact, Putin’s blamecasting toward America pissed me off so much, I fired back in anger on Twitter. One does not ride on a legacy of Soviet-engineered cultural degradation in America, complete with a secret plan to gin up mass shootings here, and then blame the BLOW-BACK on America. The SOVIET UNION was fully responsible for foisting mass shooters on the world, and THEIR Marxist clap-trap – still being leveraged by Putin through Soviet products like Obama – is precisely where the blame resides.
Cultural Marxist back-splatter, Putey. YOUR Soviet KGB demoralization and cultural Marxist PLANTS (should I list NAMES?) wrought this MADNESS in America, and now you get some blood on your SUIT? SHAME ON YOUR USSR for CREATING "gun violence" through SUBVERSION. SEND THE FILES!!!
And NOW, in typical communist fashion, you BLAME THE VICTIM, Vlad.
YOU and YOUR KGB used cultural subversion on America – paid a pretty penny to fund it, too. Filled our government with YOUR spies and YOUR assets pushing GUN MURDERS to disarm us.
The foreign press picked up the story, but the American leftist fake news media generally did not. The American CONSERVATIVE media picked it up from foreign sources. Note that this is something Hillary Clinton cited as part of her “vast right wing conspiracy” accusation – that the FOREIGN PRESS was used by the American conservative press to get around “good” gatekeepers here in the U.S. “OH NOES! So sinister, going around the gatekeepers!“
I was watching this shooting closely to see how Putin would react. Here is why.
I was clued into Russia’s curiously continued communist attitude toward RKBA during the aftermath of Sandy Hook, when I noticed Russian attempts to personally influence me on gun control at that malleable moment. It’s amazing when people make little mistakes like being too obvious. It seemed strange at the time, that “now capitalist” Russia would even BOTHER working the old KGB position, but I filed it away to be explained later. I can thank Maria Butina for helping do just that.
I really urge you to read the article, because it clears up EVERYTHING about this woman, and why she was here. Here is the link again, direct to the Daily Caller.
Butina’s case is NOT part of the Mueller prosecution – rather incredibly
Butina TRIED – at the behest of her Soviet Russian handlers – to set up Russian contacts with TRUMP OFFICIALS
Butina TRIED – and to some extent succeeded – to infiltrate one of the strongest defenders of gun rights in America, while maintaining contacts with Russian intelligence
The prosecutor is Jessie K. Liu, who was part of the Trump transition team
Trump likes her
Looks like a Bushie
Harvard and Yale grad
Husband is Yale grad
Just sayin’
Background looks relatively clean, but so did Lovely Loretta Lynch’s
Bottom line – not expecting a massive bust of Democrats here
Spidey senses remain tuned and won’t shut off
Anti-Trump probably wants this case gone as bad as the Dems do
My prediction – based on my writing this article and having repeatedly outed Butina as part of the Democrat-Russian plot to taint POTUS – is that DOJ is going to “make a deal” and kick Maria Butina out of the United States PRONTO, just like they helped skedaddle those lovely Russian neighbors of Nikolas Cruz in idyllic Broward County, back to Moscow for good.
Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see. Trust the Democrats, their pet RINOs, and the NeverTrump anti-dupes. There’s nothing to see.
So what is the greater significance of this?
It is a waypoint – a piece of the puzzle – a CLUE to a much bigger thing.
Are you starting to put the pieces together? I hope so.
Stay tuned. More dots are coming.
W
If the Democrats actually cared about Putin influencing America, they would defend the Second Amendment with their very last breath. Smoke and mirrors, people. Smoke and mirrors.
The featured image in this article shows precisely WHY I refused to dissociate myself from the Treehouse. It is also my challenge to each and every person who posts here, to listen to Q, and listen to Sundance, and NOT to voices of division.
This conversation is exemplary. Let’s look at it in full. The thread appears to now be locked – a good idea.
Let me start by saying I mean no disrespect to those individuals who enjoy the riddles posted by an unknown entity who writes under the nom de plume “Q”. However, the time has come where aspects within the well promoted “Q narrative” are now a risk and must be addressed. Please bear with me…. The baseline – In the aggregate the “Q narrative” has been: there’s a coordinated effort by President Trump and officials to expose, and confront, corrupt entities within the “deep state.” The essential element within the narrative, as pushed by the “Q” entity, is that President Trump is aware of, and coordinating, some larger plan.
Hopefully that brief baseline summary is not controversial, and most would agree that’s been the structural and purposeful intent of the overall message.
Structurally, and factually, this claim is false. However, that’s not the problem. Within this theory, that seems to have garnered a considerable following, there is now a danger to the office of the president; and however well-intentioned the theory initially might have been, it urgently needs to stop being spread.
As you have seen recently, yesterday, President Trump is forcefully repeating that he has not had any contact with current Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker. Part of the reason President Trump has to do this is because this false narrative, the “Q Theory”, has been drum-beaten by well-intentioned supporters. Many of those supporters, genuinely good people, have believed this coordinated theory. However, it is false.
Conversely, all of President Trump’s opposition is trying to attach President Trump to the actions and intents of his new Acting Attorney General. The false “Q” narrative helps them.
Currently the Trump opposition, writ large, would love nothing more than to frame the President over taking executive action that puts the Mueller investigation at risk; and thereby attaches him to some form of obstruction. If people keep pushing the “Q theory” of President Trump orchestrating moves; that narrative is adverse to his actual interests.
That false narrative actually impedes Whitaker from diminishing Mueller as a sword of Damocles over the office of the president.
The opposition to the office of the president desire to have the office of Attorney General in a position of compromise, and subsequent recusal. This was the reason why there was such a push by that same opposition to force the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; whereby the DOJ is then hamstrung in the ability of the AG to defend the executive.
So long as opposition can rely on, and manipulate, embed (and likely corrupt) DOJ and FBI officials toward their goals, things are in their favor. If the opposition can no longer work around the AG, their efforts at removing President Trump are more difficult.
If the AAG is both: (A) independent from the White House; and (B) simultaneously looking out for the genuine interests of the executive [note: not mutually exclusive] and confronting historic corrupt behavior, those within the entrenched DC system have a much harder time trying to frame the President out of office.
President Trump’s political and administrative opposition didn’t care about the “Q narrative” (which is false), because it was of no consequence for a bunch of people to mistakenly think that President Trump and Jeff Sessions were coordinating (they weren’t) an effort against the deep state (never happening) while they had the AG recused. However, with a fully empowered AG that same message (which is false) will be leveraged to oppose any adverse action by Matthew Whitaker; and demand his recusal.
Can you see how the dynamic shifts?
Does that make sense?
This is how the “Q Narrative” now becomes a liability.
I’ve not been confrontational to the game of the “Q riddles” until recently. To each his own; and most of the stuff is harmless and the community seems to have fun with it. However, once I saw what was predictably going to happen; and strongly sensing Sessions was about to get dispatched; and against a mountain of research, and suspicions, I have gone through about a genuine network of information; I saw the warning signs and began trying to stop the spread of the “Q” virus – at least on this website.
So my message to those loosely connected/tenuously labeled, “former intelligence officials”, ie. those behind the Q message board, is to please stop with the “trust the plan” stuff.
If you need to modify the messaging because you are financially dependent on keeping the game alive, then so be it…. Same request applies to the downstream benefactors… But please modify the narrative to a more factual and substantive one.
[If it helps, soon there will be a reality-based origin for you to modify the riddles]
The key point here is for all of you to please stop pushing a narrative that President Trump is somehow coordinating or influencing an investigative or confrontational outcome. He isn’t; he never has been; and he will not be in the future. However, that narrative, false though it always has been, is now a genuine problem. I am making this request politely and hopefully you can digest the problem as the landscape has changed.
President Trump is spending an inordinate amount of time reaffirming the reality that he has no connection to anything AG Matthew Whitaker has done in the past; or might do in the future.
If “Q riddle originators” and “Q riddle followers” keep pushing this “trust the plan” narrative, in any form – but specifically as it relates to the involvement of the President (which is false), you will actually be hurting the administration; and the larger goal of those who are factually trying to work internally within the corrupt systems to bring the needed change within the institutions.
President Trump will need to confirm a new U.S. Attorney General (Sessions replacement) and likely a new DAG (Rosenstein replacement), as well as a new FBI Director and Deputy in the near future (Wray and Bowditch). All of them have been Mueller enablers [see here] And, with the FL and AZ senate race results tenuous, there may be a diminishing margin for controversy (aggressive, actual swamp draining candidates) in the nomination process.
Please, and thank you.
At first it may seem that Sundance has asked us very nicely to deny what many of us believe – or at least to not talk about it on CTH. But what do we believe? Let me state it in a kind of general form, so we are not being evasive by a Snopesism of some kind. We believe:
There is some kind of plan to “drain the swamp”
Our VSGPOTUS is at least partially informed of it
We are asked to “trust this plan”
These would be the “THREE PILLARS” of the Q Cult, if I may call ourselves that. There is a plan. President Trump knows something about it. We can trust it.
I personally would be a liar if I said I didn’t believe all three parts of this. Our President would be an IDIOT if this wasn’t true. And Trump is not an idiot. It may be politically convenient to pretend it’s not true, but I don’t do that. In fact, I believe some stuff that makes a lot of people want to kill me, discredit me, shut me up, or all of the above. THAT stuff is hard. Believing our President has a plan to drain the swamp? That’s a no-brainer.
Now – I can certainly go on the Treehouse and not talk about The Three Pillars of the Q Cult, or even HINT at them. But I can’t drop that belief HERE, or anywhere else, including Twitter.
If THAT is OK with Sundance, then I am still a Treeper. But that is not my decision.
Now – is it possible to hold the “Pillars of Q” and not allege that President Trump is a criminal who is at the mercy of Bob Mueller? Particularly on issues of AAG Whitaker? Well, I think so. Because I believe the following:
President Trump is very, very smart
President Trump is always very careful about obeying THE LAW
The Plan is mostly if not almost totally not of Trump’s design
The Plan is mostly of military and military legal origin
The Plan is thoroughly reviewed by lawyers as an ongoing process
The Plan is reactive, changeable, ongoing, and intelligent
The Plan adapts to President Trump’s desires and suggestions (he IS CiC)
President Trump trusts The Plan and adapts to the advice of its designers
The Plan is 100% LEGAL and AUTHORIZED
Anything Illegal has been carefully SCRUBBED from The Plan
Trump is being carefully protected from illegalities or pitfalls
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it is TRUE
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it was part of The Plan
President Trump’s tweets pass by “Q” precisely for this reason
President Trump not knowing things, to obey the law, is part of The Plan
Absolutely NONE of this falls outside NORMAL ORGANIZATIONAL ETHICS
This is exactly how President Obama was protected from illegalities MOST OF THE TIME, but NOT ALWAYS, and THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
The Plan deals with stuff that is so far above most people’s pay grades, there are some parts that are known by more ALIENS than HUMANS
Sorry – I had to throw that in to demonstrate no limits on secrecy
Does everybody see where I’m going with this?
Now, some people will say I’m just constructing a paranoid fantasy here. Well, I’m sorry, but….
THIS IS HOW I GO ON VACATION.
My wife plays the part of the military, and my dog plays the part of the aliens. OK – to be honest, sometimes my WIFE is the VSGPOTUS and I’M the military. And sometimes the dog… well, you get the point.
Are we clear? We are saying Trump is not an idiot, he’s an honest guy, and he plans stuff. He HIRES people who plan stuff. Our government has people who plan stuff. Some of it is secret, but it is all on the up-and-up under TRUMP.
Am I still a Treeper? Hell yes.
Because I TELL THE TRUTH. And the TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The End.
W Even my damn dog is Q. Because we’re honest, well-intended, and we plan.
IMO Sundance is just interpreting the current state of affairs, before the election, exactly as it is – pure REALITY. He wants people to realize that WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW – small wins – is exactly the way it STAYS if the House goes to the Democrats. If you want ANY of this stuff to change, then we need to keep the House, and GAIN SEATS in the Senate. Only then will we see the stuff Q is talking about. If it stays like this, it STAYS CORRUPT.
I put a nicer face on that reality, but SD and I believe the same thing. DOJ and FBI are NOT filled with Untouchable types ready to bust all the crooked politicians – FAR FROM IT. Q is telling us the truth, but all the prosecutions of the SpyGate gang will be a small sideshow to fake commie impeachment proceedings if they win the House.
I intend to work my BUTT OFF to win in November.
I have a post on the Treehouse explaining how the Wolfe plea deal probably worked – WHY it is proceeding like it is. We are at a junction. If we win, you will see STUFF from Wolfe’s testimony to the FBI. If we lose, you will see nothing more – a COVER-UP.
YES. There can be no complacency. The ONLY chance we have of getting prosecutions on this stuff is to WIN and BEAT THESE CHUMPS BADLY. They want us divided. Q is right. I think I may put parts of what I just told you into a big post on my site. People need to understand this.
Now – not everybody is even as “optimistically gritty” as I am about this election, but they are every bit as realistic.
Listen to Joe di Genova explain HOW MUCH LEVERAGE our VSGPOTUS has – just from the FISA stuff that does NOT include the SSCI and Dianne Feinstein.
But also warnings about what happens if we DON’T KEEP THE HOUSE.
Our President has massive leverage. If Sundance is right (and I think he is) about Trump’s new leverage over Senate Democrats AND Republicans, thanks to the FISA leak, AND if POTUS adds that leverage to what he already gets from declassification of the BAD FISA WARRANT – well – VSG Trump is sitting pretty good.
Imperator Rex ALSO sees massive leverage coming from Papadopoulos, much like what Joe diGenova sees. Check out the entire thread on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/_ImperatorRex_/status/1052001690977689602
I am going to assert what is pretty obvious, but what you need to understand will determine the course of the next two years.
We are at a junction. If we LOSE THE HOUSE, the winning for the next two years will be there, but it will be small potatoes.
But if we keep the House and gain in the Senate, the WINNING will be YUGE.
Therefore…..
VOTE.
VOTE EARLY.
GET OTHERS TO VOTE.
VOLUNTEER.
PUT UP SIGNS.
KEEP THE SIGNS UP AND REPLACE THEM.
STAY ACTIVE ONLINE.
GET YOUR FRIENDS TO THE POLLS.
WE HAVE A CHANCE HERE TO WIN LIKE NEVER BEFORE.
DO IT.
W
“So what do you say we just WIN this sucker and WIN BIG?”
I want to directly address Q’s latest, very long post (number 2381 on qanon.pub). I believe that it is critical for sorting out what is happening right now – not only with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but also with FBI Director Christopher Wray.
Jeff Sessions is directly addressed by Q’s post. However, it was by focusing on somebody who is APPARENT in the post – but not named directly – WRAY – that I can now understand what is happening, and more importantly, WHY.
We begin with Q’s post.
Statement release 10.9.18 [p_AUTHORITY1]
General Statement:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
How can you make arrests [non military] prior to first fully cleaning out corrupt elements [at the top] of those departments [FBI][DOJ] that oversee ‘investigation & prosecution’ in the United States [they [themselves] are the very ones engaged in the illegal treasonous acts]?
James Comey, Director – FIRED
Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director – FIRED
Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED
James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED
Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok’s boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed]
Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED
Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED
Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED
Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED
David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC – HRC email invest] – FIRED/FORCE
John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General – FIRED
Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x – cooperating witness [power removed] – TERMINATION IMMINENT
Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – FIRED/FORCED [Batter’s Box]
Michael Steinbach
John Glacalone
Randy Coleman
Trisha Anderson https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/fashion/weddings/trisha-anderson-charles-newman-weddings.html
Kevin Clinesmith
Tashina Gauhar
Sally Moyer
How do you ensure those prosecuted [non military] would receive an impartial judgement based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Federal Judge rulings [obstruction][POTUS’ granted CONSTITUTIONAL authority].
How do you ensure ‘appeals’ to the U.S. Supreme Court are evaluated impartially > based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Justice K (5 to 4).
Military Law v Criminal Law
“Enemy Combatant”
How do you navigate around installed BLOCKADE? [MUELLER] designed to take-in evidence needed to ‘expose’ DS [DOJ block re: Mueller ‘evidence’ ongoing investigation]. [MUELLER] designed to limit POTUS’ ability to maneuver. [MUELLER] designed to ‘stall-for-time’ until MIDTERM ELECTIONS to TERMINATE all HOUSE / SENATE ongoing investigations. [MUELLER] designed to ‘safeguard’ D_PARTY_BASE false narrative re: RUSSIA COLLUSION [POTUS CHEATED – EVIL – SKY FALLING] in effort to DIVIDE and MOBILIZE for future protests, riots, threats, violence, FF’s, etc. [MUELLER] designed to provide FAKE NEWS w/ ammunition to sway public opinion, obstruct foreign + domestic agenda, fuel impeachment/removal, fuel anti-POTUS [DIVISION][prevent UNITY], etc.. [MUELLER] designed to demonstrate to foreign players that OLD GUARD still pulls strings. [MUELLER] designed to mobilize D_PARTY for MIDTERM VOTE WIN. [MUELLER] designed to push D_PARTY backers to DONATE [GOFUNDME – D_PARTY]. [MUELLER] designed as PUBLIC OUTCRY EXCUSE should criminal charges be brought against them [‘we are being ‘politically’ attacked because MUELLER…].
How do you REMOVE installed BLOCKADE?
DECLAS—DECLAS—DECLAS
How do you navigate around installed corrupt [FBI][DOJ]?
USE A STEALTH BOMBER
Who must authorize firing of FBI/DOJ officials?
Why did McCabe try to take SESSIONS out? https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/fired-fbi-official-authorized-perjury-investigation-against-sessions-1191727171576?v=raila&
What was the SESSIONS SENATE CONF VOTE?
52-47
No. 175
Logical thinking v clickbait.
Q
LOGICAL THINKING.
That is what this is all about for me. That includes a lot of work with unknowns and uncertainty. Don’t just TRUST Q. Apply some LOGIC.
I’m pretty good at that. I’m not saying others aren’t, but this is a GROUP EFFORT. Nobody is going to have all the pieces.
We are entering a very weird time where we will get MORE of some specific reliable but unproven (and thus uncertain) advance information through “authorized anti-media” sources like Q, than we will through our own efforts. We will have to juggle some very fuzzy objects to do it, too. If we refuse to accept certain items from Q, that we can’t immediately prove, we won’t be able to make some extremely important leaps.
This is a strange and uncomfortable situation, but once we accept it as a possibility, or even a necessity, we can do a lot WITH IT – all the while keeping our DOUBTS about the reliability of “Q”. REMEMBER: Q cannot read Trump’s mind, and it can make mistakes, or even more specifically may not be fully informed by POTUS – with REASON.
Are you with me? I’m not TRUSTING Q. I’m TESTING Q. And I’m using a combination of my own research, GOOD TESTING DOUBTS from the Treehouse, and STATEMENTS by Q to figure out where I want to be on Christopher Wray and Jeff Sessions. LOGICAL THINKING.
Let’s look at the first part:
Statement release 10.9.18 [p_AUTHORITY1]
General Statement:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
I think we’re supposed to take the “[p_AUTHORITY1]” token (clearly a real OR ad-hoc made-up or derived symbol meaning “highest Presidential authority”) as the idea that the VSGPOTUS approved this preface to a bunch of stuff which is largely known and repeated, but which, IMO, NEEDS to be repeated. What’s the actual provenance of this stuff? Who knows. Uncertain. Even if it’s a story, it’s a sensible one. The timing is right, and sniffs of reality if this actually IS a legit psy-op.
Now I’m going to inject some opinion here. The stated need for this POST is here, in the second sentence:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
This is a KNOWN vulnerability of the Q *psy-op*, because it is a core REASON for the Q psy-op itself. The Q psy-op was designed (in my opinion) in part to combat the misleading and division of the Trump base by the Democrats and their foreign allies. Why is this going on? Because IMPATIENCE has ruled the roost as JUSTICE grinds slowly. That impatience has allowed the Democrats to DISTRACT THE MAGA BASE very intentionally. IMPATIENCE allows for DIVISION. Note that Q understands the role of division very well, and has been CONSISTENT on this point. Self-consistency is a bona fide. Remember that.
One of the reasons the Q psy-op was CREATED (IMO) was to keep those IMPATIENT laser-pointer-susceptible anons from being misled – to keep them following TRUMP and not chaff and countermeasures – by providing a MAGA laser pointer with deniable but convincing VSGPOTUS signature, that would BEAT OUT the enemy laser pointers.
I don’t just think that was brilliant – I think it was NEEDED.
One of the first and earliest deployments against impatience was the early generation of “Twitter gurus”, who theorized very close to what Q is saying now. Note that the Twitter gurus were SAVAGED by the New York Times in the VERY SAME attack article that was going after Q. There is a reason for that. The same groups of people attacking Q are against ANYTHING MAGA.
The Twitter gurus are convincing, but have also asserted some things that are almost unbelievable – possibly by design. I still don’t accept everything they say as gospel, or even close to reality. But I do believe they are 100% MAGA, and are telling some BIG TRUTHS that will prove correct in the long run.
NOW – what is being said next by Q?
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
Look – let’s be reasonable here. COLD LOGIC. The direction of this explanation just keeps working toward what Q has been saying all along. Military OP. Put all the pieces together and the entire history of the Trump candidacy and administration makes TOTAL SENSE if we proceed from the following scenario:
The military and particularly the NSA watched and waited, as they saw things going bad – as the CLOWN Deep State began to abuse IC resources more and more – as it became clear that the control panels of government were being ABUSED for political ends. The Snowden LEAK was one of the last straws. A TRIPWIRE was constructed. I tend to think the basic tripwire may have even been constructed long ago – perhaps as long ago as GENERAL Washington. But the modern interpretation of the tripwire is simple in this theory. If NSA data was used to go after candidates in a Presidential election, the military would STOP IT and begin countering – within limits – whatever forces were behind the abuse. I like to believe that General Washington left some kind of orders that the military would automatically self-correct if it was ever abused BY a President to control a Presidential election. So you know what that means. It is also likely that the black hat conspirators were AWARE of the tripwire, or at least “a” tripwire in theory, and ACTED against Adm. Rogers based on the knowledge that they had likely crossed it.
Now comes a serious question:
How can you make arrests [non military] prior to first fully cleaning out corrupt elements [at the top] of those departments [FBI][DOJ] that oversee ‘investigation & prosecution’ in the United States [they [themselves] are the very ones engaged in the illegal treasonous acts]?
This is not just a self-consistent admission that the military doesn’t want to do this task – it is a POINTER of how to approach this logically.
Clean out the top in a civilian way (takes time, but is largely, not completely done).
Clean out below after that (very problematic – WE ARE HERE)
After that, comes a long litany of FACTS supporting this, in terms of PROMISES KEPT and PROMISES TO BE KEPT, vis-à-vis “draining the swamp”.
James Comey, Director – FIRED
Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director – FIRED
Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED
James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED
Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok’s boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed]
Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED
Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED
Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED
Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED
David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC – HRC email invest] – FIRED/FORCE
John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General – FIRED
Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x – cooperating witness [power removed] – TERMINATION IMMINENT
Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – FIRED/FORCED [Batter’s Box]
Michael Steinbach
John Glacalone
Randy Coleman
Trisha Anderson https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/fashion/weddings/trisha-anderson-charles-newman-weddings.html
Kevin Clinesmith
Tashina Gauhar
Sally Moyer
This is an argument for MORE TIME based on the sizes of two groups: (1) the bad actors we KNOW about who HAVE been scrutinized, at what we are likely to admit is a previously acceptable rate, and (2) those people ( [BATTER’S BOX] ) have not yet been publicly scrutinized, inviting us to EXTEND the acceptable period of scrutiny.
Is this REASONABLE? That’s a good question. YOUR CALL. I entertain the idea that, with reasonable guarantees of completion, it IS reasonable.
Next, look at some questions:
How do you ensure those prosecuted [non military] would receive an impartial judgement based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Federal Judge rulings [obstruction][POTUS’ granted CONSTITUTIONAL authority].
How do you ensure ‘appeals’ to the U.S. Supreme Court are evaluated impartially > based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Justice K (5 to 4).
Military Law v Criminal Law
“Enemy Combatant”
How do you navigate around installed BLOCKADE?
These are all reasonable arguments for (1) do this OUTSIDE the military as much as possible (BRAVO!), and (2) we might REASONABLY need to allow more time.
In particular, look at the BLOCKADE called [MUELLER]….
[MUELLER] designed to take-in evidence needed to ‘expose’ DS [DOJ block re: Mueller ‘evidence’ ongoing investigation]. [MUELLER] designed to limit POTUS’ ability to maneuver. [MUELLER] designed to ‘stall-for-time’ until MIDTERM ELECTIONS to TERMINATE all HOUSE / SENATE ongoing investigations. [MUELLER] designed to ‘safeguard’ D_PARTY_BASE false narrative re: RUSSIA COLLUSION [POTUS CHEATED – EVIL – SKY FALLING] in effort to DIVIDE and MOBILIZE for future protests, riots, threats, violence, FF’s, etc. [MUELLER] designed to provide FAKE NEWS w/ ammunition to sway public opinion, obstruct foreign + domestic agenda, fuel impeachment/removal, fuel anti-POTUS [DIVISION][prevent UNITY], etc.. [MUELLER] designed to demonstrate to foreign players that OLD GUARD still pulls strings. [MUELLER] designed to mobilize D_PARTY for MIDTERM VOTE WIN. [MUELLER] designed to push D_PARTY backers to DONATE [GOFUNDME – D_PARTY]. [MUELLER] designed as PUBLIC OUTCRY EXCUSE should criminal charges be brought against them [‘we are being ‘politically’ attacked because MUELLER…].
Now – in my opinion, this is all a great and obvious argument for:
Sessions is OK, though impeded, and is a HUGE target of the black hats
More time is OK
There is also something else. Notice ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE FBI who WERE fired. I’m not even talking about the ones on deck – I’m talking about the ACTUALLY fired and removed people.
This is a whole lot of DRAIN THE SWAMP, in my opinion. This means that Q is also arguing….
3. Wray is OK
It’s not stated explicitly – most of the effort is defending SESSIONS. But by implication, Q is saying Wray is OK, in my opinion.
But how does this jibe with all the other arguments we’re hearing – many seemingly very valid – that Sessions and Wray have NOT cleaned out DOJ and FBI?
Can it be true that they ARE cleaning out the BAD TOP, but that they ARE NOT cleaning out the BAD RANK AND FILE?
Absolutely. And we need to look at this more closely to see why it is happening.
The easiest way to see what is happening is to look at WRAY, not SESSIONS. For Sessions to be valid requires a certain amount of “stealth” on his part – that is a very uncertain situation. We don’t have that problem with Wray.
To begin with, I found it very helpful to look at Chris Wray’s background. If he’s “Deep State”, that’s our problem right there.
My assessment of Wray is as follows. Some of it is highly speculative. The references are included in various places. Many of the ideas listed appear in multiple references, or are derived from my thinking on information in multiple references. Don’t take reference location as definitive, or the references as the sole origins of the ideas.
The purpose of this is to prove that Christopher Wray is or is not “Deep State”. I will skip to the end. He is NOT Deep State. In my opinion.
This is all a bit of a hodge-podge, but if you don’t like it, I think you can gain a similar understanding by simply clicking on and reading some of these references.
Wray was an excellent recommendation (possibly by Chris Christie, among others – Christie won’t confirm)
Wray and his wife seem to embrace a lifestyle antithetical to black-hattery.
Wray made sure that an innocent Chris Christie was not thrown under the bus by his overly loyal underlings (speaks to an amazing skill set)
Wray made sure that a SKETCHY DOJ did not set up and take out Christie, and he (Wray) was not fooled by them (VERY IMPORTANT)
Wray was not in the loop on Mueller and Comey’s black hattery, but looked up to their PUBLIC PERSONAS strongly.
Wray was willing to stand up to Bush and the NSA, along with Comey, Mueller and Ashcroft, in the infamous “Ashcroft incident”, based on what Wray KNEW at the time.
In the process, Wray ADMITTED he didn’t understand what was going on.
THIS point actually becomes a bona fide, because I don’t think Wray (or any of us, for that matter) understood WHY Mueller and Comey REALLY opposed NSA domestic surveillance UNDER BUSH.
Notice also that this made Wray the perfect white hat to slip past the black hats as FBI Director.
Wray’s somewhat mysterious exit from DOJ in 2005 for no stated or obvious reason, when his career was going very strongly, is VERY encouraging to me.
I think we need more research on this.
I cannot find ANYTHING about it, but a cushy landing job is implied
Expect CHAFF stories on this to paint him as a black hat or something else. My guess is that it was really a combination of:
being too much of a white hat for Comey and Mueller, so they limited his advancement and/or engineered pressure on him to leave, possibly including trickery involving the Abu Gharaib hot potato
his old employer tempted him back with college-plus-vacation-home-levels of cash
All of this, I found very troubling.
What? Why? Why on earth would I find an excellent background troubling? Because Wray is too good. I cannot explain the situation at FBI based solely on Wray. The problems at FBI would require Wray to be incompetent in ways he is not.
Sessions is different. He has a MUELLER around his neck. There is a REASON Sessions is in trouble, and the “BAD RANK AND FILE” at DOJ are running loose, undermining him everywhere. Mueller has Sessions pinned down.
Wray does not have that problem. And consistent with a competent leader, Wray’s background is VERY consistent with that long list of FIRED top people at the FBI. He’s the perfect guy to have done exactly what he did. If we also accept Q’s proposition that these things take time, then I think Wray has to be doing a good job.
BUT – how do I reconcile that idea with Wray not providing required documents to Congress in a timely and complete fashion?
Even weirder, how do I reconcile THAT incompetence or noncompliance with EXCELLENT FBI work in the investigation of Judge Kavanaugh?
Stated differently, the FBI has been SWAMPY toward all House investigations, but was NON-SWAMPY for the Kavanaugh Senate investigation.
Logic tells me that the simplest explanation is that FBI is PARTIALLY CLEAN. Stated differently, only a SMALL part of the FBI has been cleansed. That small part is:
the top chain of command that was REPLACED
the special DOJ/FBI group that has been going after leaks, including the Wolfe leak in the SSCI
the group supporting the OIG (but definitely NOT completely cleansed, based on Sharyl Attkisson’s laptop)
These are the places we have seen ACTION against the swamp in any significant way.
This is in agreement with the idea that THE SWAMP is still deep in FBI. Only PARTS of the FBI swamp have been drained.
THAT is OK. I can live with that, if we CONTINUE THE DRAINAGE.
So WHY all the impatience now? We are actually SEEING PROGRESS with the Kavanaugh confirmation and serious FBI push-back on FAKE WITNESSES, and yet people are calling for Wray to be replaced. That could actually be BAD, unless we KNOW of a better replacement.
Does anybody believe that the NEXT FBI Director would be as tough on China as WRAY has been? I seriously doubt it.
That is what went through my mind the next morning, watching a news report about yet another FBI BUST against CHINESE SPIES. And then it hit me.
IT’S CHINA.
Wray has been talking about China more than any other FBI Director in memory. And not just talking – Wray has been DOING. He is actually ARRESTING Chinese assets.
Bear in mind, I had recently seen Wheatietoo’s post, where SHE put it all together on China on a bunch of other things. All I’m doing is throwing ONE MORE LOG on that fire.
Just like Trump and his “team of killers” on trade – just like Trump’s defense people on navigation in the Pacific – just like Trump himself on TARIFF after TARIFF after TARIFF – not to mention calling out CHEATING on North Korea sanctions – not to mention the “Save Our Seas Act” – not to mention upending bogus climate change – not to mention booting out Confucius Institutes – and see Wheatie’s post for more…..
WRAY is TAKING CHINA to the WOODSHED.
Yes. Wray is ON MESSAGE with Trump on China. AND he is the guy who has ACTUALLY been going after China.
Why in the heck would China put up with that?
Answer: THEY WOULDN’T.
NOBODY can start a whisper campaign against their enemies like CHINA.
NOBODY.
I immediately went to the Treehouse to spell this out: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/10/interesting-and-frustrating-senator-ron-johnson-questions-fbi-director-christopher-wray/comment-page-1/#comment-6142153
I just figured out last night that CHINA is targeting Wray. Oh, these ChiComs are so sneaky. They will pull crap when you’re looking right at them.
I did a deep dive on Wray last night because of this post. Things didn’t make sense.
Everything is telling me that Wray’s basic nature is MAGA, straight-shooter, and that he is the antithesis of what the other side wants. In particular, he is the first guy in a long time to actually GET the China problem. BOOM. That is when I realized what is happening.
SO – in my humble and slightly opposing opinion – the whole “turn against Sessions and Wray” movement is striking me as a highly skilled ChiCom product. The ChiComs are amazingly good at hiding the China hand. They push American faces as actors and actors behind actors to get their goals, and most people never see it, but I smell the invisible Chinese hand like very few can, and it is all over this push against Wray.
So why is Wray being ineffective to Congress? It’s a VALID QUESTION. In some ways this is also CLASSIC CHINA – they always try to move a situation very quickly to a state where their enemies BLAME THE VICTIM. Very few people are as SNEAKY and SKILLED as the ChiComs in getting their enemies to shoot each other.
China’s method of undermining institutions is A THOUSAND CUTS FROM BELOW, AND AN KNIFE TO THE THROAT AT THE TOP. So every Holderite, McCabian and Canklebot in FBI is foot-dragging as hard as they can, many not even realizing who “The Resistance” really serves. And all that is being used against Wray from below, IMO.
I’m sorry, but I will not blame Wray for Chinese black-hattery. We MAY need to put an even tougher fighter in his place (thinking Wolf Moon wearing an AR-15 to pressers), but until somebody SHOWS ME THE GOODS, I say Wray is our best fighter already. The only two people I know who are tougher on China are Peter Navarro and ME, and there is no way Peter is qualified, and no way I would be allowed into my own Senate hearings with an AR-15 on my back (among other reasons 😉 ).
I think we need to see what Wray is like AFTER THE MIDTERMS IF WE KEEP THE HOUSE. Will he be more cooperative with Congress? I think so – for MANY reasons.
If I’m correct in my thinking, then Wray will be MORE FORTHCOMING when President Trump has greater operational freedom. I think we are seeing this to some extent already, but not completely, for valid reasons.
I can expand on that thinking a bit more. CHINA knows that it is going to have to use every asymmetric advantage it can to come after Trump. I am sure they are pressuring, cajoling, and calling in the chips EVERYWHERE to get AMERICAN FACES to get Trump to back down. One of those methods is to get their Democrats back into power by ANY method they can. Removing Sessions and/or Wray has to be at the top of that list. The ChiComs UNDERMINE THE ORGANIZATIONS to do it, too. Possibly through SURROGATES. Exactly what we are seeing. [DSA looks a bit flush lately. Just sayin’.]
It ain’t gonna happen. If the Chinese Communists think they can return the situation to “Obama Normal”, they are SADLY mistaken.
SO – bottom line – this is WAR. And war changes everything. Sometimes, war is a PAIN in the butt, and right now, that’s the way it is.
WAR may mean putting up with ineffective people for a while. WAR may also mean FIRING THEM completely out of the blue. War may even mean FIRING ON YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
I am TRUSTING TRUMP. I see Sessions and Wray as GOOD SOLDIERS in the FIGHT against Chinese communism, Soviet leftoverism, and nasty dupey globalism. Our VSGPOTUS may indeed have to BOMB OUR OWN POSITIONS at some point to free up the AG position and put a TOUGH GUY BASTARD into FBI. That’s WAR. I don’t like it, but if either man gets overrun in his position, then we may have to nuke them.
TOUGH. MAGAPOTUSAURUS is on the loose!
However, I don’t think we’re there yet. So I am going to continue to support Jeff Sessions and Chris Wray up to the very moment (should it ever arrive) that Trump sees their replacement as necessary.
PATIENCE.
LOGICAL THINKING.
COLD ANGER.
This is #WAR. In the meanwhile, WE have a HOUSE to deliver.
W Sometimes you’ve gotta trust that the people up top know what they’re doing. Scene from MIDWAY – why is this relevant? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/characters/nm0000336?ref_=tt_cl_t3
