2024·10·26 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,720.80
Silver $33.78
Platinum $1,023.00
Palladium $1,106.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 130.618-
Gold:Silver 80.545-

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,748.70
Silver $33.77
Platinum $1033.00
Palladium $1219.00
Rhodium $4,950.00
FRNSI* 131.968+
Gold:Silver 81.395-

Palladium went absolutely bananas Thursday and Friday rising 96 bucks the first day and 37 bucks the second. Platinum went up a whole eight bugs then down three. (Somebody, please go wake platinum the hell up.) Silver managed to drop one cent, while gold showed a modest increase. (As such, the gold:silver ratio has gone up.)

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

The Moon and Flat Earth

Let us examine what we should expect to see when observing the Moon, assuming the usual flat earth model is correct.

We’ll start with this standard diagram.

It’s difficult to tie down exact distances, because the Flat Earthers have yet to come up with a map (as opposed to a diagram) complete with a scale, but apparently the Moon is claimed to be about 3000 kilometers above the plane of the Earth. There’s no official notion what the diameter of the disc is, either, but one could say that the distance from the north pole (at the center of the disc) to the outer rim (corresponding to the globe earth south pole) is 20,000 km since that is very roughly the distance on the round earth (globers have no hesitation in publishing exact figures). Alternatively since the glober circumference of the earth along the equator is ~40,000 km, we could say that that is the distance that should be measured along the circle of the equator, which means (via dividing by 2 x pi) the distance from the center to the equator is 6366.2 km. From the pole to the equator is 1/4 of the total distance across the circle, so the diameter of the entire disk is 25,465 km. (Which is actually fairly close to the globe earth circumference when that is expressed in miles, by coincidence.)

The Moon varies in declination from 28.7 S to 28.7 N, or to translate that into non-astronomese, that’s as far north or south as it gets. The Sun, by contrast, stays between 23.44 degrees S and N. (In globe earth terms, that’s the Earth’s axial tilt.) Every flat earth model I’ve seen shows the Sun going around and around on a daily basis, following a circle that grows or shrinks according to the seasons, withing these bounds on the flat earth; likely also about 3000km above the Earth. I’m going to assume the Moon behaves similarly only within the 28.7 S to 28.7 N bounds.

Here is a picture of the Moon, when it is directly over the equator, in the Flat Earth model. (Screen shot taken off a youtube video.)

The Moon is regarded by most Flat Earthers as a sphere, with some minority thinking that it, too is some sort of disk. Whichever one it is, when you look at a full moon, you see something like this:

However, it may be tilted clockwise (near moonset) or counter-clockwise (at moonrise), in other words the orientation may be different. This is lunar north pole at the top so it should be close to what you see when the moon is directly south of you, which should happen at about midnight on a full moon, provided you’re north of the moon.

And therein lies the first problem.

What if you are south of the moon at that moment? Like, for instance, living in Australia or South Africa or South America?

If the flat earth is correct, you should see a good part of the other side of the moon (if it is a sphere), since you’ll be “behind” the moon compared to the guy to its north. Not exactly behind the moon, so there will be some overlap between what the two of you see. The person south of the moon, in other words, should see some features you cannot see, and vice versa.

On the other hand, if the Moon is a disk (apparently the minority opinion in the flat earth camp), then…well, there are two sub cases. If the moon is pasted to the firmament so that it faces “down” to the Earth, than only people directly under it will see the moon as a circle; anyone else will see it as elliptical. If (on the other hand) it happens to be face-on to the viewer in the northern hemisphere, anyone not on that line of sight should see it as elliptical, and if they’re far enough away, they may even be seeing the opposite face of the disk.

Yet we’ve never seen a photograph of the back side of the Moon taken from Earth’s surface, not even a partial one. Nor have we seen pictures with the Moon distorted into an elliptical shape because the photographers are not face-on to it. Yet effects like these must happen if the Moon is as close as is claimed.

Here’s another issue. If you’re inside the circle that the Moon traces every day, you will be closest to the moon when it is directly south of you; if you’re outside of that circle, you will be closest to the moon when it is directly north of you. If you are actually very close to the moon’s latitude, it should pass by almost directly overhead, and be nearest at that time. Closer to moonrise/moon set it should be much further away.

If it’s further away, it should look smaller. Yet tracking the moon across the sky shows no change in its apparent size, no matter where you are.

Interestingly, these same issues would arise on Globe Earth, if the Moon were this close to it. If you saw the moon looking like the picture I showed, someone far away would be able to see features that you can’t, on the other side of the Moon. So the mistake here is not with the shape of the Earth, but rather, with the notion that the Moon is nearby.

All of these issues resolve if the Moon is far away, compared to our baseline (40,000 km for Flat Earth, or 13,000 km for Globe Earth). If the Moon is far enough away, two people standing 40,000 km apart will see almost exactly the same features on a spherical Moon, with the differences being seen oblique near the edges of what we see, so those differences would be hard to even tell apart.

How far away? Aristarchus of Samos who lived from 310-230 BCE (approximately) was able to do a computation, and got a value of roughly 130,000 kilometers. Others, like Hipparchus and Ptolemy, got 425,000 and 376,000 kilometers, respectively.

If numbers like these are even remotely correct–and they must be at a bare minimum, because we do not see the effects we would see (regardless of the shape of the Earth) if the Moon were closer to Earth–then there’s now a new problem.

If the Moon is that far away, two different observers on a flat Earth should see it in almost exactly the same direction, both altitude and azimuth. [Altitude: the angle above the horizon, with 0 being on the horizon and 90 being overhead. Azimuth: the compass bearing of the object. Generally 0 is considered to be due north, 90 degrees is to the east, 180 to the south, 270 to the west, and 360 is also due north.] This is because it is so far away that shifting a few thousand kilometers should make little difference, like taking two steps sideways and noting that light pole at the other end of the parking lot only seems to shift a little compared to the buildings in the distance. A 40000 km shift (from one edge to the other) against a moon 300,000 km away should lead to an angular shift of about seven and a half degrees.

Yet at the same time. different people can see the Moon low in the east, and low in the west, a difference of almost 180 degrees! OK, that one can be explained on Flat Earth. If I’m in Colorado, west is the same direction as east would be in India (check the diagram). [Also true for globe earth, in three dimensions.] But what about when the Moon is overhead for me, and low to the horizon for someone else, at the same time? There’s no way to make that work, for a distant object, on a Flat Earth. And we’ve established that the Moon must be distant.

Well, there’s only one way to solve that problem. The ground itself that you are standing on, cannot be oriented in the same direction as the ground of that other observer. To try to visualize this, it’s easiest to deal with plumb bobs; the lay of the ground (if the ground is horizontal) is perpendicular to the plumb bob. So if “horizontal’ is the same thing in two different places, the plumb bobs will be perpendicular to the same thing and thus parallel to each other. This would be the case on Flat Earth. A line of sight to a distant moon would form nearly the same angle to both plumb bobs, instead of very different angles, which is what we actually observe.

Therefore horizontal in one place, is not oriented the same as horizontal in the other place. The Earth cannot be flat. (What shape it actually is can be determined by collecting information about the orientation of the moon from various locations, all at the same time.)

As a post script, the same reasoning works for the Sun as well…though you have to have the proper equipment to see sunspots, otherwise the Sun is just a featureless sphere and you cannot tell whether two people far apart are looking at two different sides of it or not.

Oilworld

I know of a world where it rains, there are mountains, hills, streams and rivers and lakes, all under a nice thick atmosphere–thick enough you could strap on wings and fly! Not the dessicated nearly-airless rocks of the inner solar system, the roasting dry hell that is Venus, the deep-frozen (or totally volcanic) Galilean moons, the bottomless atmospheres of the gas giants.

Comparatively speaking this is nearly paradise!

Perhaps I have a second calling for writing real estate ads. Because what I haven’t told you is that this place is a frigid 93 K (-290 F)…so cold that water is a rock, a hard one, never a liquid. Those mountains are largely made of ice. The streams and rivers and lakes? Liquid methane and ethane, in some ways a lot like gasoline, but gasoline would be frozen solid here. If one could feel this stuff it would probably feel oily, not wet. The atmosphere is almost pure nitrogen; even if it weren’t at that frigid temperature you’d pass out and die breathing it. And it’s so smoggy that you’d never see the shrunken sun, nor much of anything else in the night sky.

I speak, of course, of Saturn’s moon Titan, which orbits at 1,122,870 km. (Compare to the Earth-Moon distance of 384,399 km.) Despite being almost three times further, this is still close enough to Saturn that, if you could see Saturn through the smog it would be 11 1/2 times as wide as the moon. Titan is almost precisely in Saturn’s equatorial plane, however, so the rings would be almost perfectly edge on. The orbital period is 15.95 days. Here it is, seen from an Earth-based telescope, a dot to Saturn’s upper right.

To remind people of what I said in the Moon roundup, major moons (the ones that are round) come in three sizes, large (7 of them), medium (9 of them) and small (three of them), for a total of nineteen. There are also five non-rounded minor moons about the size of those small major moons, we can call these “big” small moons, well, big small moons, or maybe medium-small.

The seven large major moons are: our own Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Titan and Triton. Titan happens to be the second largest of the Big Ones. It’s just a bit smaller than Ganymede, and it’s thus the 10th largest object in the solar system (including the Sun); it’s larger than Mercury. This is the only large major moon that Saturn has, so Jupiter has it beat. Or does it? Saturn has four of the medium major moons (out of nine total), and two of the three small ones, for a total of seven major moons. And for the cherry on top, two of the big five unrounded moons are also here. But we’ll cover the medium and small stuff later; today we focus on Titan, which is arguably the most interesting of the large (and major) moons.

Titan was thought to be larger than Ganymede until relatively recently; it turned out that astronomers were measuring the light-impenetrable atmosphere, and that was enough to make the difference and fool astronomers for decades. An understandable error; this is the only moon with a significant atmosphere; more so than ours in many ways.

And yes, there’s more than enough air pressure to allow stable liquids to form. (The only other world like that in our solar system is the one you’re sitting on.) The atmosphere is four times as dense as ours, yet the pressure is “only” 1.45 times our atmospheric pressure. The difference being largely due to Titan’s much lower surface gravity of 13.8 percent of Earths (our Moon’s gravity is higher, actually.)

After the Pioneer and Voyager missions, we realized that there could be liquids on Titan’s surface. The Hubble Space Telescope was able to add to the speculation by detecting more strong evidence.

So we decided that the next time we sent something to Saturn, we’d take a closer look at Titan.

A much closer look. As in, actually touching it.

The Cassini probe, named after one of the two scientists who first studied Saturn in depth, brought with it the Huygens lander…named after the other of those two scientists, the one who discovered Titan. From 2004-2017 Cassini was able, in its copious spare time while studying Saturn, to map Titan with its penetrating radar, and Huygens actually landed on Titan on January 14, 2005.

Radar is needed, because this is what Titan would look like to human Mark I eyeballs, in true color, no enhancements, no false color:

The color is good old smog.

With near infrared (“near” meaning it’s infrared at frequencies close to visible light), you see this:

This feature was actually first seen by the Hubble Space Telescope in 1994, though Cassini got a better look starting in 2003. The dark area is apparently a dune sea! (No, no Shai Hulud. Sorry, Coothie.)

So here is a map put together in 2016, with a lot of official names for features (open in a new tab for a much more legible rendering):

It looks like a bit of a patchwork quilt because Cassini could only do sharp imaging on those occasions where it was flying by Titan; it wasn’t dedicated to studying Titan, so many areas are just shaded polygons, or just very blurry. (In fact Cassini divided its time between studying Saturn itself and 20 different moons.)

As with any map like this, you won’t get a decent notion of the two poles, so here they are. In case you haven’t gotten my subtle hints that this isn’t very good real estate (never mind the billion mile one-way commute) you can scout out properties on the original images at over 3000 pixels width.

And now what you’ve been waiting for: Huygens’ descent to Titan’s surface. This just-under-five-minute movie is a time lapse, showing you the fish-eye image sent as the probe descended. Look to the sides, though, and you will see graphics reporting time, angles to the Sun and Cassini, which sensors are seeing what at any given time, altitude information, scale information…this thing is loaded; many of you will want to watch it a couple of times.

And in case you didn’t want to watch that, here’s the contrast-enhanced picture from the surface:

(Now go back and watch the movie.) Those rocks are almost certainly water ice.

Huygens is the only probe we’ve ever landed on a body that remains entirely in the outer solar system.

OK, so on to a bit more technical content. Here’s a cutaway of Titan, somewhat hypothetical, much like the one I found for three of the Galilean satellites a few weeks ago:

And yes…another liquid water ocean deep down! But we’re not completely certain that this is the correct model; note that the diagram specifies which model it is, which it wouldn’t have to do if we were certain of it.

The atmosphere is responsible for the fact we can have liquids on Titan; here’s a diagram of its layers:

Nearer the surface, we have this cross section, reminiscent of some notional cross sections we see for Earth:

On earth we have aquifers the top of which are the water table, and a lake is basically where the water table is above the surface. But here we have…an “alkanofer”?!? What the heck is that about?

(Dragging out the organic chemistry skis. Not a soapbox, skis. As in, getting out over my…) Alkanes are a class of molecule consisting of nothing but hydrogen and carbon. Every carbon uses all four of its bonds to connect to distinct atoms. The simplest alkane is methane, with one carbon, connected to four hydrogens, CH4. The next one up is a pair of carbons, connected to each other by one bond (carbon can double or even triple bond, but those cases wouldn’t be alkanes). The other three bonds for each carbon is connected to a hydrogen, for a total of two carbons and six hydrogens, C2H6; this is ethane. You can add a third carbon to the chain, to get propane (C3H8), a fourth to get butane (C4H10)…but now there’s an additional complication. With four carbons, they could form a chain, or a T, with one carbon in the “middle” connected directly to three other carbons. Either configuration will connect to ten hydrogen atoms. The chain is butane, the T configuration is isobutane.

And if you allow rings of carbon atoms (technically molecules with rings aren’t called alkanes, but rather cycloalkanes), you can have up to six different variations, called isomers. Four of them are shown below. Though the ones with rings don’t connect to as many hydrogen atoms, in the lower left is cyclobutane and note there are only eight hydrogen atoms.

(And yes, propane has a ring form too, but the chain is the only possible three carbon alkane.)

You can go on, and the higher you go the more isomers are possible, and this number grows rapidly. Leaving out cyclo- type isomers, you have 2 isomers for 4 carbons, three isomers for 5 carbons, five for 6 carbons, nine for 7 carbons, 18 for 8 carbons, 35 and seventy five for 9 and 10 carbons, respectively…and when you get to 32 carbons, there are over 27 billion isomers…again, no rings.

One trend is that the longer the alkane, the higher its melting point. Hence we have butane which is a liquid on earth at 0 C, and at room temperature with just a little bit of pressure (like in cigarette lighters), pentane which is liquid up to 34 C, and so on. Gasoline is largely made up of alkanes and cycloalkanes with (roughly) eight or so carbon atoms in them.

At the low temperatures on Titan, only the smallest alkanes will be liquid, but that doesn’t mean bigger ones don’t exist as sand or other forms of solid matter. Imagine a world you could scrape frozen crude off the ground.

Titan should, perhaps, be thought of as “Oilworld.”

What would it be like to swim on Titan? Pretending that the cold and lack of oxygen wouldn’t kill you within seconds, these liquids aren’t very dense, so you’d sink to the bottom of the lake or pond. Your best strategy might be to leap out of the “water,” rather than try to swim.

Life?

For those speculating about life, Titan has some advantages. It certainly has plenty of carbon, and those alkanes make good feedstock for building more complex molecules (which is why, for instance there’s so much smog there). But that life would almost certainly have to exist in that subsurface ocean…and we’re not even sure that that ocean is there, yet. Anywhere else, it’s simply too cold.

On the other hand, its atmosphere resembles the atmosphere on Earth, back before cyanobacteria and plants started producing oxygen. It’s likely Titan would have something to teach us about pre-biotic chemistry.

Future Missions

In 2028 Dragonfly will launch, and in the mid 2030s it will arrive at Titan. It will be a flying drone, powered by radioisotope thermoelectric generator, i.e., the heat from a chunk of plutonium 238 (which literally glows red, it’s so hot from radioactivity). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator). This is the way we power most of our probes to the outer solar system, however Juno and Europa Clipper did (and will) use large solar arrays (they have to be large because sunlight is very weak out there). Other unfunded ideas were for a hot air balloon, a probe that would float on one of the lakes, and even a submarine drone!

Titan is going to get a lot of attention in the future, that’s for sure.

2024·09·21 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,578.70
Silver $30.80
Platinum $1,004.00
Palladium $1,092.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 123.745-
Gold:Silver 83.724+

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,622.40
Silver $31.24
Platinum $986.00
Palladium $1090.00
Rhodium $5,075.00
FRNSI* 125.859-
Gold:Silver 83.944-

Gold has now busted $2600. Silver is going up but not quite enough to keep up with gold (it’s worth slightly less in terms of gold than it was last week). Palladium jumped up then back down this last week, ending virtually unchanged. But platinum is sliding. Rhodium is essentially stable.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Piling On

Just an Observation

The latest flerfer complaint is that the Final Experiment (the trip to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun) won’t count because it’s not an experiment but rather an observation. WTF? Anyhow, in this video, among many things of interest such as the fact that other people will be taking sun pictures that day in order to test the effect of variables (which would make it an experiment!), it’s shown what a bunch of lying hypocrite charlatans they are for trying to make this argument:

And this one from a year ago where Dave McKeegan tells of plotting the positions of celestial bodies over the Earth’s surface…then translating that to the pizzaworld model.

Antarctica

Oh, and spring (for Antarctica; it will be fall for Northern Hemisphere folks) starts at 06:43 Mountain Time on the 22nd (Sunday). This is the moment when the sun, which appears to travel along the zodiac line (even though we are orbiting it), appears to cross the celestial equator, northbound. [The celestial equator is just our own equatorial plane, projected out to infinity in the sky. The zodiac is the plane of the Earth’s orbit about the sun, projected out to infinity in the sky.] That should be the nominal instant when more than half of the sun becomes visible at Amundsen-Scott station at the south pole. (However, refraction makes the sun appear higher in the sky than it otherwise would, when it’s near the horizon, so sunrise will be somewhat earlier than this for them–and has probably already happened.)

So wish the 40 or so people who have spent the last six months wintering over there in either twilight or complete darkness a good “morning”!

Oh, wait…this doesn’t exist, does it? It’s all CGI!

In which case let’s get our money’s worth out of all that CGI, since we paid for it with our tax money. Here are a couple of videos which are tours of the station. First, upstairs.

Downstairs:

And there’s a part three (out of 2?) for the bits buried under the ice (such as vehicle maintenance, the generators, the logistics area, and so on); largely stuff that can get cold.

Incidentally there are three generators, that rotate, one is generally undergoing maintenance, one is a backup, the other is the active one. If all three crap out, there’s another generator that might manage to keep one part of the the station above freezing, but were this sort of failure to happen during winter over, they’re basically dead. It’d be easier to get people off the ISS then out of Amundsen Scott during winter.

And here’s one for the Ice Cube neutrino observatory (you’ll recall discussions of the neutrino in my Sun article a couple of weeks ago as well as during the physics series, part 20):

Anyhow, I hope you all enjoyed all that expensive taxpayer-funded CGI.

The 800 lb Gorilla

Jupiter, as photographed by the Hubble Space Telescope in 2017. A true-color image.

The single most important fact about Jupiter is that it is BIG. How big? Well let’s compare it to Earth and the Moon:

By size it’s 11 times the width of Earth; by mass it’s 318 Earths. That’s over 2 1/2 times the mass of all other planets, asteroids, comets, etc., put together. Or to think of it another way, you can characterize the solar system as consisting of the Sun, Jupiter, and miscellaneous debris. (And even with that Jupiter is barely 1/1000 the mass of the Sun.) To put it in absolute terms, Jupiter is roughly 88,000 miles across; and even the Great Red Spot–which is storm in the atmosphere–would swallow the Earth.

Ironically, if Jupiter were somehow even more massive, it probably wouldn’t be much larger. The gas would simply compress more to make up for it. The maximum diameter might be a bit more than what we see, but not much. If it were 75 times more massive, it would actually be compressed enough to start fusing hydrogen…and it might actually be the size of Saturn; considerably smaller than its actual diameter.

Jupiter has four major moons, three of them larger than our Moon, plus another 91 smaller moons, generally too small to be forced into a spherical shape. Those four big moons are at least as interesting as Jupiter itself and will be covered in a different article.

Jupiter orbits at about 5.2 AU from the Sun (and I’m not going to explain AUs yet again). That makes its “year”–the time to make one orbit about the Sun–11.86 Earth years. It has almost no axial tilt, so it doesn’t have seasons to speak of.

This is significant: It’s beyond the “snow line.” This means that a lot of things that would normally be vapor inside the line–like water–are solid outside. Hydrogen and helium, the major constituents of the matter that formed the solar system, are considerably cooler and easier for planets to hang on to; and Jupiter did just that; that’s fundamentally why it is so big.

Jupiter rotates on its axis in 9 hours, 55 minutes, and 30 seconds. That’s considerably less time than it takes Earth to do so (23 hours, 56 minutes, 4 seconds…with respect to the stars). Combine that with the fact that it is 11 times wider, and it turns out that an object on the Jovian equator experiences 65 times the centrifugal (well…it’s actually centripetal) force as an object on Earth’s equator. Why does that matter? It makes Jupiter look distinctly oblate (squashed); the difference between the diameter through the poles and between the equator is actually noticeable.

Jupiter is made almost entirely of gas and (deep down, under insane amounts of pressure somewhere between 500 and 4,000 atmospheres) liquid metallic hydrogen. Yes, under extreme pressure hydrogen behaves like a metal, complete with metallic bonds. And deep inside is a rock and ice core, that all by itself is larger than Earth. The following diagram is a cutaway of Jupiter. The pressures down there could be as high as 40,000 atmospheres, and the temperature is likely around 20,000K (versus 165K (-163 F) near the visible “surface.”

Unsurprisingly the atmosphere is mostly hydrogen (roughly 3/4), helium (a bit less than 1/4), plus a bunch of simple molecules like water (H2O), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and even phosphine (PH3)…basically simple molecules made up of very common elements.

What we see is an “upper” cloud deck, but as it happens the light bands (called “zones”) are at a considerably higher altitude than the dark bands (called “belts”). The upper clouds made largely of ammonia ice are at a pressure of 0.6 – 0.9 Earth atmospheres, the lower visible clouds contain sulfur compounds as well as water ice and can be anywhere from 1-7 Earth atmospheres.

All of this implies that the atmosphere just above these clouds is already fairly thick, while being clear enough for us to see through.

That liquid metallic hydrogen has a significant consequence–Jupiter has a ridiculously huge magnetosphere. Since it captures charged particles, just like our Van Allen belts do here on Earth, that makes the entire Jovian system, including the Moons, very hazardous from a radiation standpoint. We can’t realistically send manned missions to Jupiter’s moons because of this, with the possible exception of the outermost of the large moons. It’s shaped something like a tadpole, with the head facing the Sun and the tail pointing away from the Sun. I haven’t been able to nail down the diameter of the magnetosphere, but it extends some 7 million kilometers towards the Sun, and the tail nearly reaches Saturn’s orbit. More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter

Like the Sun, Jupiter exhibits differential rotation, with belts and zones rotating at different speeds and vortices (including spots) showing up a lot on the boundaries. Here is a GIF made from a timelapse of Jupiter rotating as seen from Voyager I in the 1980s. The pictures are all taken at times when the Great Red Spot in the same orientation with respect to to the spacecraft, so you can see other features, which rotate at different speeds, change position with respect to the Great Red Spot.

Herding Cats

Jupiter’s great mass means that it often deflects smaller bodies in the solar system like comets and asteroids. Many comets have an orbital period that suggests that an encounter with Jupiter put the comet into that orbit in the first place. And Jupiter has even taken a bullet or two, most recently in 1995. The comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 was discovered having already broken into pieces thanks to tidal forces (yes, tidal forces show up again!) from Jupiter; it then was realized that Shoemaker Levy was going to impact Jupiter! What a spectacle! (And how good it was for us that it was Jupiter taking the brunt of that, not Earth!)

It wasn’t just a spectacle; the comet left “holes” in Jupiter’s atmosphere that allowed deeper material to come up to the surface where we could analyze the light with spectroscopes and learn more about Jupiter’s interior.

Jupiter is generally credited with reducing the amount of stuff that rains down on Earth from elsewhere in the Solar System.

History

Jupiter has been known since ancient times; it is generally the third brightest object in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Since it is so bright and moves through the sky at a fairly stately pace, it got associated with the king of the gods, Zeus or in Latin, Jupiter.

It’s one of the ancient seven planets, each of which was associated with a metal, and each of which ended up associated with a day of the week. These are: Sun, gold, Sunday; Moon, silver, Monday; Mercury, mercury, Wednesday; Venus, copper, Friday; Mars, iron, Tuesday; Jupiter, tin, Thursday; and Saturn, lead, Saturday. And yes, the Sun and Moon were considered planets back then because they moved against the celestial sphere; the recent kerfuffle with Pluto is not the first time we’ve reclassified things. Many of our days of the week are named after Norse gods, but if you go to languages like Spanish, French or Italian, you’ll see the connections between days of the week and our planetary names (which, like those languages, are legacies of the Romans) more readily.

It’s a lucky coincidence that Jupiter turned out to be the king, not of the gods, but rather of the planets once we learned a lot more about it. This began mere months after we first turned telescopes to the sky; In 1610 Galileo noted four tiny “stars” near Jupiter, and could see the pattern change nightly, even over just a few hours. These turned out to be the four big moons of Jupiter (larger or comparable to our own moon).

The four big moons are to this day known as the Galilean moons, and you can spot them with binoculars. I said I’d cover them another time but there are a couple of points I want to make. First, when Galileo discovered them and realized they were orbiting Jupiter, that killed the centuries-old presumption that everything in the universe revolved around the Earth. (And if that wasn’t enough the phases of Venus put the final nail in the coffin, as they showed Venus revolved around the Sun.)

And our view of the universe was never the same again. That dinky telescope of Galileo’s (which is on display at a museum in Florence) is arguably one of the two most important telescopes in history for this reason. (The other being the 100 inch Hooker telescope that Hubble used.)

Second was their use in navigation. Galileo realized almost immediately that the moons’ motions were very regular; such that one could work up a time table and be able to tell absolute time with some accuracy here on Earth, provided you could see Jupiter and point a small telescope at it. Why was that a big deal? Because if you’re sailing a ship, the only way you can determine your longitude is by knowing what time it is in an absolute sense, or at least compared to some other location. For instance, if it’s noon in Greenwich, it’s about 7 AM in Washington DC….or perhaps some other spot in the middle of the ocean directly south of Washington DC. If you know both items of information; that the sun says it’s 7AM but it’s noon in Greenwich, England right now, you can figure out you are at 75 degrees west longitude. The problem was, they had no way of knowing what time it was in London at that same instant. We didn’t have anything like an accurate clock we could just set to London time (and never adjust it) to compare the local time to. But, we could look at Jupiter; if the moons were in the position for 3AM, you knew, regardless what time it was where you were at, that it was 3AM where the time tables were made. So you have a means of determining longitude.

But there was a fly in the ointment; it turns out that after painstakingly computing the table, it wouldn’t work well after a few months; the moons might get to their predicted position a bit early or a bit late. It turns out that the problem wasn’t with the computations, it was with the fact that sometimes Earth is a bit further from Jupiter, sometimes a bit closer, and so we were being thrown off by the light speed delay changing from one position to the other (light can take about 17 minutes to cross Earth’s orbit from one end to the other, and that’s about how much our distance to Jupiter varies). 17 minutes corresponds to about four degrees of longitude which in turn is 240 nautical miles if you’re near the equator. That’s a significant error!

We’ve also discovered that Jupiter has a very tenuous ring, a far cry from Saturn’s ring system, but there nonetheless.

Spacecraft

Jupiter is visited often by our spacecraft, not only for its own sake but because it’s a good waypoint for other missions; it’s often used for a gravity assist. The New Horizons probe to Pluto used a gravity assist from Jupiter to shorten its flight time by about five years (it could have got there without the assist, which in itself is remarkable).

The first probes were Pioneer 10 and 11 in 1973 and 1974. It was the Pioneer spacecraft that discovered Jupiter’s magnetosphere. (Pioneer 11 went on to Saturn). In 1979 Voyager 1 and 2 paid a visit, these spacecraft both went on to Saturn and one of them went on to Hugh Janus and Neptune.

Ulysses, which was a mission to study the sun, flew by Jupiter in 1992 and again in 2004. Why send a solar probe away from the sun to Jupiter? Because we wanted to put the probe in a highly inclined orbit so we could see the Sun’s north and south poles for the first time. The easiest way to do that was to send Ulysses past Jupiter’s north pole and let Jupiter bend the orbit into the new plane, some 80 degrees off from the main plane of the solar system. (Jupiter will bend your trajectory no matter what, but if we approach Jupiter so as to pass the pole, the trajectory will be bent outside of the plane of the planets’ orbits.) If we hadn’t done that we’d have needed a gigantic delta-V to cancel out Earth’s motion around the sun (which the spacecraft would “inherit”), then more to put the spacecraft into its new orbit around the sun. Ulysses took these opportunities to study Jupiter’s magnetosphere.

Cassini flew by in 2000, on its way to Saturn.

Flybys are great, but an orbiter is better. We sent the Galileo orbiter to Jupiter, with it arriving in 1995 and sending back data, including from close encounters with the four Galilean moons, until 2003. Galileo was well timed–when comet Shoemaker-Levy impacted Jupiter Galileo was approaching the system and took some amazing pictures of the aftermath of the event (the impacts were unfortunately on the far side). Galileo came with an atmospheric probe, too, that was dropped into Jupiter’s atmosphere on a suicide mission to return data for as long as it could withstand the rapidly-increasing pressure. In 2016, Juno, a European spacecraft, arrived at Jupiter, establishing itself in a highly elliptical and inclined orbit which means that once every orbit it gets very close to the clouds, and it passes over the poles, which otherwise we’d never see. Juno is still active.

Life?

Jupiter is sometimes cited as a possible location for life. In this case, since it’s essentially atmosphere down to depths where the pressure is crushing, the life forms are generally imagined as creatures with huge bladders filled with atmospheric gas…basically living hot air balloons. This idea got kicked around a lot, including by science fiction writers (like Arthur C. Clarke; a much more recent story told of Jovians’ reactions to Shoemaker-Levy 9).

All of this is complete speculation, of course, and I think as we’ve learned more about the rest of the solar system, we’ve come up with better candidates. But in the end we probably don’t know enough to even intelligently decide which scenario is most likely.

2024·08·17 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,431.70
Silver $27.54
Platinum $933.00
Palladium $926.00
Rhodium $4,975.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,508.70
Silver $29.11
Platinum $964.00
Palladium $975.00
Rhodium $5,100.00

Silver up nicely, palladium higher than platinum again (platinum is on effing sale, people), but all that pales in comparison to the big news which is:

GOLD BUSTED $2500 ON FRIDAY. Up $51.40 on Friday alone, yes, we’re over 2500 “ferns” (FEderal Reserve Notes) on gold.

The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) stands at 121.357+. [Edit: 120.357+…I forgot to subtract 1]. (This index is the ratio between the price of gold today, versus the value of the dollar defined as dollars per ounce when we had the gold standard, minus 1 (so that an index of 0 means the dollar is at its original value and doesn’t suck at all). I use that clumsy phrasing because the dollar was defined as a certain amount of gold, such that an ounce of gold was $20.672. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.672 back then, it was $20.672.)

2024·07·13 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,389.60
Silver $31.16
Platinum $1,038.00
Palladium $1,064.00
Rhodium $5,025.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,411.60
Silver $30.84
Platinum $1011.00
Palladium $992.00
Rhodium $4,950.00

Gold was over 2,420 on Thursday, and drew back a bit on Friday, still up for the week. Silver a bit down. Palladium took a beating Friday and is now lower than platinum. Both are down for the week any way you cut it.

I need to make a technical comment. The modern run of bullion coins, things like the Canadian Maple Leaf and American Eagle (and many others) are indeed coins because they have denominations on them. The denominations are absurd; the one ounce eagle has a $50 face value. (If anyone ever spends one of these things at face value, I hope I am the one who reaps the benefit of his/her ignorance.) But they will also state their gold content in either grams or troy ounces (a troy ounce is 31.1035 grams or 480 reloading-bench grains).

What can cause some confusion (and did last weekend) is that the coins are often stated as having that much “pure gold” in them, but that doesn’t mean they are made of pure gold. The Canadian Maple Leaf tries for ridiculous purity, less than 1 part per 10000 is something other than gold. Our gold eagle is 91.67 percent pure (22 kt) (with the balance made up of 3 percentage points silver and 5.13 of copper), so it isn’t made of pure gold, but it still contains an ounce of gold; if you removed the other stuff, you would indeed have an ounce of pure gold. They do this, of course, by making the coin weigh more than an ounce.

(Frankly going to eyestraining purity strikes me as a stunt. No one really cares if the coin is absolutely pure; they’re interested in the net weight of precious metal. In fact high purity can have negative consequences as a pure gold coin is soft enough that it might get a ding in it if you give it a harsh look.)

When it’s not absolutely pure, of course, you have to be sure how much gold (or whatever precious metal) is in the coin. There is a big catalog of coins from around the world (the size of a very thick telephone book, and that’s just one century’s worth), generally called Krause after the publisher, and for coins with silver, gold, or other precious content they will give the weight of the coin in grams, then the purity as a decimal fraction, then “ASW” or “AGW” or “APW” for “actual silver weight”, etc. That last number is the actual content of precious metal. Collectors typically just follow that custom when labeling their foreign coins; coin shops will do so to entice people to buy the coin for the metal content if nothing else.

Anyhow the bullion coins, regardless of whether they are pure, will have some nice round number of either troy ounces (over here) or grams (over there in Europe/Asia) of precious metal in them. (Sometimes “over there” will do something in troy ounces, too.)

2024·06·08 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,327.70
Silver $30.49
Platinum $1,046.00
Palladium $940.00
Rhodium $5,400.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,293.90
Silver $29.23
Platinum $973.00
Palladium $936.00
Rhodium $5,325.00

Gold closed in the 2370s on Thursday. Then it took an $83.40 loss on Friday (-3.51%). Silver dropped $2.14 on Friday (-6.84%). “Sucking chest wound” is almost appropriate here as a descriptor.

Platinum and palladium took sizeable losses as well on Friday, $41 and $20 respectively.

2024·05·04 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,338.40
Silver $27.26
Platinum $923.00
Palladium $967.00
Rhodium $5,275.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend. In this case the close was on Thursday; the markets close for Good Friday.

Gold $2,302.20
Silver $26.61
Platinum $965.00
Palladium $974.00
Rhodium $5,300.00

Gold took another beating…but not as bad as last week. It did actually drop through the 2300 mark a couple of times on Friday but at least partially recovered.

On the plus side platinum is doing very well right now; you will note it has almost closed the gap with palladium (and I can remember when palladium was 1/5th the price of platinum).

Science Series

Although I appreciate the kind words from last Saturday, my heart just isn’t in it at the moment.

I’m not sure it ever will be.

2024·03·30 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

A Political Statement

One of my stock jokes is to say, as I head off to the bathroom or washroom or restroom, “I’m going to go make a political statement.”

It certainly seems like urinating is a good way to make a statement about the YSM, and defecating works for politicians. Or the other way around is good too, though “#1” just never seems emphatic enough.

Maybe “#1” is just being polite, and “#2” is telling the fixtures what you really think.

Anyhow, I pretty much do plan to be polite to RINOs that electioneer or fundraise. I’ll tell them, Sorry, but I need to GO Pee…

Language Warning

In the next piece I had to discuss a particular topic. Unfortunately, I couldn’t discuss it without naming it. Therefore I apologize in advance for having to do so, and apologize to anyone offended by the sight of the name.

RINO McDaniel Is Toast

RINO McDaniel got a size ten ice kleat up her ass.

And then she got fired by whichever Yellow Stream Media outlet hired her. (I can’t remember which one, and they’re all brown and smelly anyway, so it doesn’t matter.)

There aren’t many opportunities to gloat these days, so take ’em where you get ’em.

But she was not the problem…or rather, she would not have been a problem were it not for others.

No, the real problem is the fact that a majority of the 168 top GOP people voted for her. And now that has happened five times so they cannot claim they didn’t know what she was.

In spite of the fact that under her “leadership” the party had deliberately sabotaged the will of its base, had deliberately refused to challenge blatant election fraud, had gone out of its way to ensure certain candidates do not get nominated, had diverted donor money to namby-pamby candidates who have all the electoral appeal of a puddle of dog vomit…and in general has done nothing whatsoever to help fix the problems that plague America.

However that last is to be expected; I cannot expect anyone who IS the problem to help FIX the problem.

RINO McDaniel would have been powerless without an entire party leadership of the same mind as her. They wanted this dismal performance; they want to ignore the party base.

Her being gone will likely solve nothing as someone just like her will eventually be elected by those same pustulous people.

According to Charlie Kirk, about 55 people voted against her, 10-12 wanted something different but were too chickenshit to do the right thing, and roughly 100 people voted for her enthusiastically, and even had the unmitigated gall to complain to Kirk about US. Fuck ’em. Rusty 12 gauge bore brushes would be too good for these arrogant pricks and cunts.

Every single one of those hundred is just as bad as she is. And no doubt those people in turn have people who supported them to be state party chairs and whateveritis they call the other two people from each state and territory who were voting.

It’s time to face up to the fact that the Republican party is effectively owned by the shit-eating RINOs. We’ve got more work to do, a lot more work, to make the GOP an instrument for the restoration of the United States of America. And that’s in addition to cleaning up our elections.

There’s no point in cleaning up elections just to elect ratfucking RINOs.

OK, hopefully now you will have some inkling of my true attitude towards RINOs. Sorry that words were inadequate to give you the full picture.

And Yes I Might Be Able To Do Something About It

I am an alternate at the congressional district level, as well as the state level, GOP assemblies. There’s a decent chance I will get “elevated” to delegate. At the state level, we get to pick at least one RNC delegate.

My problem is being able to detect who is a RINO. As far as I know the ballot for RNC chair was secret, so basically, any randomly chosen serving RNC person is 2/3rds likely to have voted for Rino McD. So I can vote against an incumbent and have a 2/3rds chance of pissing on a RINO.

The problem is the people running against the incumbents. They’re liable to condemn the incumbent as a RINO and claim that they themselves are not RINOs. The first half of this is probably true…the second, there’s no way of telling unless they have a reputation. I’ll definitely have my ears open before the actual vote.

Which brings me to…

Lauren Boebert

I live in Ken Buck’s district. Which means I live in the district Lauren Boebert moved to, to try to remain in Congress. Apparently having the closest congressional race of 2022 was a bit frightful, so she moved from the 3rd CD (largely Western Colorado) to the 4th CD (eastern Colorado). And I just got shifted from the 5th CD (basically centered on Colorado Springs/El Paso County but used to include a lot of adjoining rural counties) to the 4th CD.

So, assuming I get elevated, I get to help decide who will be on the primary ballot. Boebert has ten times as much money in the bank as any of the other umpteen candidates, and seems like an attractive choice (in more ways than one).

But.

But she seems to have gone weak kneed in regards to Kevin McCarthy, and she’s also got a lot of “baggage,” bad behavior that a Dem opponent could use against her. Or that could be used to blackmail her. Maybe that has already happened!

So I have to admit that although I am inclined to vote for her, I have some hesitation. On the other hand, I literally know nothing about any of the other candidates. I don’t even recognize their names. So any of them is a complete “is this politician a RINO” crapshoot.

I suppose I could look to see which of them are doctors of education!

The Real Fascist is His Fraudulency Joe Biden*

*Or whoever has his hand rammed up that meat puppet’s ass.

Brandon (which I will use as a term for whoever is the power behind the Porcelain Throne) has thrown down the gauntlet…but in a way where most of America will never see it. The networks didn’t carry his tirade. CNN air brushed it (or whatever you call editing the red background) for its five viewers (who aren’t trapped in airports).

Luckily for me I live in Colorado, and therefore, despite my best efforts, I probably didn’t vote for Donald Trump.

Of course, for this purpose who I actually did try to vote for will be essential, and they undoubtedly know.

Come and get us, asswipes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6ZZ28QtX4

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

A Few Things We Cannot Blame on His Fraudulency

I am pretty sure Joe Biden had nothing whatsoever to do with the 30 Years War that ran from 1618-1648 and probably killed about a third of the people then living in what is now Germany.

Nor did he cause the collapse of either Roman empire (Western, 476 CE, Eastern 1453 CE). Nor the ignominious failure of most of the Crusades. Nor the collapse of Bronze Age civilization around 1200 BCE (including the collapse of the Minoans and the blowup of Santorini).

However, my utter lack of ability to imagine how he could possibly be responsible for these things is not a valid argument against them, so I await correction if appropriate.

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,165.50
Silver $24.73
Platinum $903.00
Palladium $1,007.00
Rhodium $4,925.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend. In this case the close was on Thursday; the markets close for Good Friday.

Gold $2,234.00
Silver $25.04
Platinum $918.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,150.00

As far as I know, that’s an all-time nominal high for gold, though I doubt that once you adjust for inflation it beats the 1979/80 price spike of $850. Gold jumped $38.80 on Thursday, but over the course of the whole week did almost twice that much.

Silver is still struggling to do something spectacular, and the PGMs are up almost in proportion to gold.

This is bad news on the whole; it means the dollar is in trouble, and ultimately we’re going to be struggling with inflation, possibly really bad inflation. Not a problem as long as your income keeps pace…but it won’t. Gold bugs of course consider this good news, but they are going to find a trashed dollar hits them too.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

The Log In Our Eye: ‘Christians Are Responsible for the State of American Politics’

REALLY? Should we take this criticism from an FBI agent?

Or is blaming Christians just more “Battered Christian Syndrome”?

More “blame the victim”?

Or are Christians SUPPOSED to actually risk some battering?

It’s certainly BRAVE to make this claim to fellow Christians.

And FBI?

Well…….

Complicated business.

I’ll be brief. This is a possibly tough or angering, but definitely necessary read, which argues very effectively that “pure politics” and “no politics” are not places where Christians should be. We must strive to CHANGE THE WORLD. It is our SLACK in doing so, which has led to the sorry state of the planet, with SATANISTS, SCOUNDRELS, and CRIMINALS in charge.

Yeah, that’s a tough message, after losing to CHEATING. But why are they cheating? BECAUSE THEY CAN and BECAUSE THEY WILL – and both of those are because we have not been culturally effective. This article actually “goes there in kindness” with the internal rightness and external wrongness of American Christianity’s “Church Lady” insularity, wrapped up in a slap of TURTLEHEAD McCONNELL.

So how can we integrate politics into Christian living without being corrupted by the mendacity and horror of current American politics?

Some of that may involve cementing and guarding the places where truth and justice are safe (the “Aubergine strategy” in real life, and the “Wolf strategy” in cyberspace), but some of it involves going out and winning the world for GOD, just like Paul did, armed with every weapon that CHRIST gave him.

Perhaps we have not been doing as much of the latter as we could.

And perhaps not “perhaps”.

I’m not saying I have the final answer, but I see that the region where the answer lies does NOT exclude POLITICAL SAVVY, SUBSERVIENT TO GOD.

This may sound like SOME leaders we know.

Listen to this DISCIPLINE we need to hear:


LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/johnnantz/2022/11/15/christians-are-responsible-for-the-state-of-american-politics-n2615961

QUOTES:

(FAR better to read the whole thing, IMO….)

We can whine about the lackluster results of the 2022 mid-term election cycle — there’s plenty of blame to share. Certainly top Republicans like Senator Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy bear direct responsibility. 

[WITHERING denunciation of the GOPe that you simply must read!]

Republicans seem poised to wrest power from the totalitarian Democrats in the House. This victory should not be discounted, despite the thinner than hoped for margin. …

…American Christians have desperately tried to believe that politics can be left to secularists who besmirch themselves with temporal concerns — as good fundamental, Bible-believing Christians, we’ll just lock ourselves in our prayer closets, cloister ourselves in our sanctified communities, and pull up the draw-bridge in front of our Christian schools. 

At the risk of being branded a heretic, I must assert, good Christian, your prayers are not enough.  

For far too long we’ve whistled past the graveyard, dithering about the inconsequential virtues like skirts versus pants, blind to the reality that we’ve succumbed to the same sinful myopathy that possessed medieval scholasticists, who quarreled uselessly about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. 

All the while, the infernal forces of tyranny have marched forward, gobbling up the entire structure of American education, the arts, entertainment, and politics. 

The Bible is replete with examples of men and women of what we would call political action. The Apostle Paul insinuated himself in the culture and, by extension, the politics of his time. …

…having arrived at Athens, Paul “disputed” with the Jews in their synagogues and “in the market daily with them that met with him.” (Acts 17:17) The Athens market would have been the equivalent of our public place of discourse. 

That means, if Paul were still walking the face of the earth, you just might see his Twitter feed.

A suit and tie are ennobling things, but they are mere rags if they are a substitute for a monk’s habit. Far too many Christians mistake arrogance for piety and cowardice for meekness.

…..Christendom must rediscover the apostolic formula of prayer, piety, and action or watch liberty devolve into totalitarianism. Loosen your tie, hang up the frock, and become relevant again. 

Christians have lost the culture, in part by lionizing “full-time Christian service.” Anywhere a Christian is called, is his or her place of “full-time Christian service.” There is no inherent virtue in teaching at a Christian school. Virtue lies in obeying the call of God, and what is sorely needed are men and women of faith in the “secular vocations,” impacting culture at its source. A wise man once said that for the Christian, “there is no difference between the sacred and the secular.” 

It’s great knowing you’re on the winning side, but countless battles still rage wherein nations may rise or fall. Quit acting like you’ve won the war when the enemy still rages across the battlefield.

…..Christians possess the most powerful weapon in cultural warfare, The Word of God. But, if you’re not engaged in the culture or in politics, you’ve no standing to complain about lousy results or cultural rot.

[Final judgment STRAIGHT FROM THE WORDS OF CHRIST.]


This is where I am now seeing the need to BRING OUR COMMS INTO THE REAL WORLD.

That means networking – not only with the LIKE-MINDED, but with the WINNABLE – and trusting that GOD will finish the job, using CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

The TRUTH we gain here must be SPREAD to the world, and the NEEDS of the world must be brought back here to share among ourselves, and with our readership.

We need to be a reactor of TRUTH that IRRADIATES and ILLUMINATES a cold and dark world.

It’s time to let that radiation and illumination SHINE.

You will see more specifics from me as we move forward.

Our purpose is unchanged, but we WILL be more effective.

LIGHT INTO DARKNESS.

W


NOTE: This piece was written BEFORE Trump announced his 2024 presidential candidacy, and apart from minor editing for style and notation of John Nantz’s background, it remains almost unchanged.

Thank God I’m a Peaceful, Honorable, Law-Abiding, and Constitution-Loving MAGA REPUBLICAN and YOU’RE NOT, President “Adolph” Biden, Puppet of “Uncle Joe Stalin” Obama


I tell you, I’m just sick of these guys.

And gals.

Between the BIDENISTA commies and the BIDENAZI fascists – all of them kowtowing to the Atlantic Council and the WEF globonazis, we’re in for a RIDE.

SCREW YOU, ADOLPH!!!

MOOD MUSIC – LAUGHING!

Know about any “secret treaties”, China Joe?

NOW, they have decided that it’s all-out war against those horrible, terrible, no-good, door-opening, hat-tipping, school-board-confronting “MAGA Republicans“.

What a bunch of WEINIES.

LMAO!

SO freakin’ Orwellian!

They DESCRIBE THEMSELVES. Projection at its finest.

Here is a serious take on it – and I do NOT discount this AT ALL.

But how should we react?

Sundance has the right attitude. We need to proudly call ourselves MAGA REPUBLICANS until these TOADS can’t even bear to use the words themselves.

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Are you a MAGA Republican?

I sure hope you are, because in this election, the alternative to being a MAGA Republican, is that you are a BIDENISTA AOC SOCIALIST or a BIDENAZI NEVERTRUMP FASCIST – both clicking their jackboots to the Fuehrer Josef Beiden and his

DEPOPULATION SHOT.

You know – the weird lying vaccine that all the elite and least trustworthy politicians seem to connive about, and is probably a

DEPOPULATION SHOT.

Did I say that LOUDLY ENOUGH? The

DEPOPULATION SHOT.

I mean, I said the

DEPOPULATION SHOT.

Is that big enough? No – I mean BIG, as in

DEPOPULATION SHOT.

You know – the one BEIDEN mandated for all your relatives.

Your PARENTS, your SPOUSE, and your CHILDREN.

Just like Baby Castro did in Canada.

THEY’RE SCARED.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID.

AND THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW.

Stay peaceful.

Stay LOUD.

Stay FROSTY.

And stay TRUTHFUL until they CAN’T WALK THE STREETS.

W

The Population Control Shot – Understanding the Peoples Climate Temple

In cases of religious mass suicide/homicide, such as Jonestown, Heaven’s Gate, and Aum Shinrikyo, it is very difficult to regain a humanitarian understanding of the key participants after the infamy of defining events sears the conscience and redefines reality.

Even more difficult, however, is the opposite – to BEGIN to think the unthinkable and speak the unspeakable, that we all seem to know is true, but which we can only comprehend in principle, not in reality.

It is almost impossible to leave the past where we could trust – and yet, we were warned about this.


Who are we taught to trust the most?
This will not be easy.
The END.
Q


You don’t understand “revolutionary suicide”. But you need to understand it – and soon.

Those who believe in “revolutionary suicide” for most of humanity as a “solution”, are acting on that belief, because “there’s no time”.

This message about “there’s no time” was not meant as much for you, as it was meant for the people with the pitchers of Koolaid, and the people with the guns, stationed around the perimeter of the compound.

Put on your seatbelts. The truth about what is going on is going to blow you away.

Those who first noticed and described the “religion of climate change” likely had no idea that they were literally correct, but they were. It’s a cult.

The Frankfurt Marxist experiment called “Peoples Temple” and its fateful concept of “revolutionary suicide” explains all aspects of the current deadly social experiment, from Green New Deal, to Great Reset, to the semi-failed population control shot, meant to transition us into integrated population control as part of [socialized] medicine.

The climate-conned progressives had a dream. That dream, being built on a stolen election, is already “pre-failing”, but not fast enough.


Something is Looming Geopolitically, and We Better Start Taking It Seriously

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I will tell you what I told Sundance.

We are dealing with a cult. As in the case of many cults, they are a group of well-meaning, good-intentioned people, who have a bit too much faith in their human leadership obsessed with human solutions, and not quite enough faith in God.

When the convincing argument met a pesky commandment, exceptions were made.

Now before you tell me I’m wrong, and that they’re all distinguishably and remarkably evil, unlike us, the good guys and better girls, take a minute to cool off and remember why your Bible said why we should not take too much pride in ourselves, my fellow sinner. Kurt Vonnegut turned the clarity of his PTSD-enhanced vision for our hypocrisy into a career. We could all use a bit of that vision.

Oh, there is evil mixed in – swirled into the goodness like poison until it’s tasteless – and that’s exactly why it’s hard to detect.

It’s easy to think of cults as purely evil and therefore incomprehensible, but it’s not a great way to comprehend their danger. It is when you examine their humanity, as we walk among them and smile, and they smile back with an equally human face, that you see WHERE and HOW the danger arises.

I have learned so much about God in following this story. Hopefully some of that EXTREMELY important part will help to freely convince you that you, too, need God – even if that God exists for you in the most abstract way possible – to keep you from falling into mental traps which, paradoxically, come from our human self-reliance and “realism”.

God is a weird idea that almost has to exist by emergent self-creation from our reality, like calculus does. Where does God come from? For that matter, where does math come from? What is the weird mathematics of infinity a subset of?

Simply believing there is more, and that it is not inherently against us, but for us, as demonstrated by our own existence, seems to be key to avoiding error. If you can accept that much of a Cartesian “God”, good. It is enough.

Ground yourself in God before you go on reading this. It is our lifeline back from diabolical error.


Why [Sometimes] Jones Was Right and We Were Wrong

I’m shocking you with that title of this section for a reason.

Jones was not right about everything, obviously. But he was right about enough, that if you can use that to begin to understand his motivations, and his correct thinking on some things, you can see where and how he and his followers were led astray.

This quality of being “right about too much, but misleading in the end” is VERY typical of communism, and Jones was, if you read Peoples Temple thinking, a communist of the Frankfurt School type. His Peoples Temple was a living experiment in resolving all the accused bugaboos of Western society – the “oppressions” – that critical theory challenged.

Jones saw unnecessary, systemic, racial problems and wanted to do something about them. Jones saw marginalization of women and felt it inherently wrong. Jones saw the collectivist aspects of earlier forms of Judaism and Christianity, and felt that they could not be ignored. Ironically, he did not see the power and possibility of the “greatest collective” – all of us living independently and harmoniously in a free and truthful world – but that is what made Jones perfect as a micro-reactor experiment for the creation of a very progressive “woke Christianity”. And that is exactly what he was. Woke Christianity, only 40 or 50 years ago.

Jones saw that American Christianity could be made more “social” – or socialist – and discovered that it actually worked, when judged by metrics of earthly success.

When I began to read some writings by a leftist sympathizer of Peoples Temple, based largely on the viewpoints of insiders and survivors, and she described my own deficient thinking about the People’s Temple correctly, and how I was part of the misunderstanding and minimizing thereof, I gained deep insight into not only the truly leftist nature of the Peoples Temple, which was clearly a fellow traveler of cultural Marxism, but also how seductive both critical theory is, and the Peoples Temple was. Even the analysis itself was seductive, in correctly describing the flaws of my own views of Jonestown. However, the devil is in the details, because sympathy for the people of Jonestown can easily whitewash the truth about bitter flaws in their collective, and collectivist, dream.

In the end, it’s Jesus versus Stalin. Stalin, sadly, beat Jesus in the world of Jim Jones.

Stalin will mislead you into demanding or committing harm of others for the good of the whole, whereas Jesus will lead you as an individual into sacrifice of self for the good of others.

It’s a subtle difference, but it makes all the difference in the bigger outcome.

To gain the same insights I got, you can beneficially read the same writings I did. Start here.

LINK: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29475

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/N2pWf

Not the least reason to read this, is that it reviews the FACTS of the history and the shocking, sad end of the Jonestown experiment.

Even more importantly, this reading exposes and explains strong parallels to the Climate Cult. It does so by exposing the thinking of Peoples Temple members from the inside. This thinking very obviously maps to the thinking of the Climate Cult.

Formation of the collective – mass formation psychosis – creates a world layered on this one, beautiful and addictive as hell, and soon to be enhanced by the “metaverse”. But threaten that world, or merely create the perception of threat, and the mass can be manipulated into remarkable behaviors.

Ah, the FURY that Malone’s utterance of “mass formation psychosis” provoked in the media.

THEY KNEW.

(Hat Tip Tonawanda)

To provide some contrast with the Jonestown collective’s broken view of itself, I am providing a short “outsider bibliography” on the Jonestown cult, which is differently broken, as you can see from the demonstrated preconceptions, psychological defenses, and capitalist myopias that the insider narrative points out. But be careful. Sympathy for the Jonestown victims, and understanding of them as good people much like us, can lead to sympathy for the devils that seduced them. Just because our devils hounded them, doesn’t mean that their devils didn’t destroy them.

Same goes for the Climate Cult.

If you ever had any sympathy for the Branch Davidians, you will get what I’m saying. It is much easier to see the evil in Cankles and her crew of nogoodniks in the Climate [Control] Cult, by having at least some sympathy for one of their victims – the flawed Christian cult of David Koresh. (Yeah, that gets complicated.)

Anyway, some comparisons. Here – let’s trivialize the victims!

LINK: https://www.vox.com/2015/5/23/8647095/kool-aid-jonestown-flavor-aid

OK, how about gritty truths wrapped in the final assessment of “paranoid”?

LINK: https://www.britannica.com/event/Jonestown

This next one is a rough gem – very anti-Jones, but exposes the dynamic of the suicidal closest layer of followers, who are willing to be homicidal to the greater outer layer – and THAT is exactly what applies to the Climate Cult.

LINK: https://www.history.com/news/jonestown-jim-jones-mass-murder-suicide

Now – I told you that you didn’t understand “revolutionary suicide” – so let’s fix that.


Revolutionary Suicide

What is revolutionary suicide? It is – at its core – simply taking the ultimate exit from an unjust society, instead of fighting against it. Here is Jim Jones in his own words:

We committed an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world.

Jim Jones, “Death Tape,” 1978

Looking beneath that statement, trying to understand what constitutes “the conditions of an inhumane world”, I believe that what we find is the failure of the Peoples Temple cult to navigate reality. Jim Jones tried everything he could, to make his utopian vision take hold in reality, but his vision ran into more and more conflicts with the real world outside his cult, until the legal and judicial systems had Jones in a state of constant challenge. Even fleeing America itself did not work. In Guyana, the conflicts grew, until legal actions against Jim Jones were imminent. Jones correctly realized that he had nowhere left to go, and thus could not maintain his vision of the Peoples Temple. Jones could not even flee to the Soviet Union – one of the options that was always on the group’s table of discussion. Jones knew that he was politically radioactive, and no longer useful to the Soviets.

“Revolutionary suicide” is the ultimate “take your bag of marbles and go home” move – but remember – THAT is also a perfect description of individual suicide.

As a number of individuals in the Jonestown cult felt the world crashing down upon them, with the increasing problems of the cult, some felt suicide was the answer. Jones was sorely tempted by this route.

I have to ask – was the Climate Cult moved ahead in its schedule by external forces? Ask the question, because it seems to me that the answer is yes. The very defects in their plan that allowed us to see it all, may have been the result of schedule changes forced by the Trump election.

Whether individuals or groups are hounded by their own perception of external criticism, or by actual hounding, it doesn’t matter – suicide can be the result. See January Sixth, as well.

The greatest moral problem with all group suicides, including “revolutionary suicide”, is that these deaths are not free of hounding or worse, this time internal, and themselves approach or even constitute murder. Hounding, tricking, and otherwise coercing the GROUP to fully participate is the reality of the act.

Innocent people who want to LIVE are forced to DIE.

Thus, there is a HUGE footprint of MURDER in “revolutionary suicide”. This is clear in the records of the Jonestown incident. A layer of “diehards” and “inner circle” were used to enforce the group decision, leaving only a few who managed to escape by using their wits.

Shades of the jab.

Most people do not want to commit suicide. Most religions teach against it. But not all, and I believe that the truest believers at the center of the Climate Cult are quite ready to kill and be killed for their goals.

If a CIA operative suggested “revolutionary suicide” to the Jonestown cult, it would not surprise me. Their collectivist nature was highly vulnerable to this form of exploitation. Indeed, the same may apply to other cult suicides.

Either way, whether spontaneous or provoked, the possibility of group error, including group entry into a suicidal choice, is a viral vulnerability of social beings.

So now, let’s apply this fully to the Climate Cult.


Revolutionary Climate Justice

It is my contention that the Climate Cultists who are knowingly behind the Population Control Shot are mostly recruited true believers, much like those closest to Jim Jones. This would be the most obedient layer. Beyond them, however, are many who believe most of the climate cult canon, but could not be counted on to obey morally contradictory orders such as murder or suicide.

So who took the shots? Did they all play “climate roulette”?

Doubly Vaxxed and Boosted

AND logic is your friend here. Some of the “knowing” likely virtue signaled to the climate goal by taking the statistically lethal depopulation shot – others less courageous and more cowardly rationalized their “need to survive for the sake of climate justice” and did not. Bill Clinton is a great example of the latter type of thinking – his view of actual obedience to feminism in men was that “exceptions need to be made for the leaders”.

Hypocrisy. It seems to be “baked in” in communism.

Either way, shot or no shot, the true-believing “there’s no time” climate cultists are, I am certain, committed to the group goal of “saving the world from climate destruction by acting now”.

You can see this in every OTHER hare-brained scheme they are rushing forward now. The “clot shot” was merely one avenue of “saving humanity”. The others are happening right now, as food and energy systems are being destroyed, both economically and physically.

Shades of Pol Pot. Who even the Vietnamese communists knew was wrong.

Yes. It’s all backwards. It’s all deluded. It’s all destructive.

They had to show us. And we are being shown.

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) were joined by Democratic lawmakers from both the House and Senate on February 7, 2019, to introduce Green New Deal legislation.

Does this all seem a bit overwhelming? Having doubts? Is it just too much?

Here are two “public” explanations I have given for “higher credibility”. First on Steve Kirsch’s blog, then on Sundance’s post on The Burning Platform. These are the same explanation, only a bit softer and easier to digest.


Wolf Moon

21 hr ago

Great article and statement of principled science.

People refuse to speak up about the nuttiness of it all, even though most know something is wrong, and many suspect that there is an intentional component.

I’ll spell it out. Somebody has to go first. I’m retired. I can’t lose a license or chair, or my pension (yet).

To me this was a fairly smart attempt to integrate top-decided and down-to-the-individual-tunable (see “bad batch phenomenon”) population control into medicine, and in fact a rather ingenious strategy, too. A vaccine – hero of a media-led crisis – unquestionable by the masses or the media – with a known dose-response mortality curve (see again “bad batch phenomenon”) that can in principle be dialed up to achieve ZPG, as long as denial of adverse events is enforced by holding all questions outside the Overton window. The dual nature (decrease BOTH longevity and fertility/productivity) is quite smart. It’s a bit “cinematic” and even “sci-fi”, but it worked pretty well due to human psychology.

The phony climate crisis (“there’s no time!”) was surely used to recruit many of the needed life scientists to carry it out or protect the plan. THAT was ingenious. Use an alleged crisis in one part of science to find unquestioning believers as recruits in a different part of science, who could “do something” about it.

Something very interesting here, is that this theory – which I find neatly explains all the “mistakes” people in charge have made – is crystal clear once you have “sympathy” for solving the population problem. Our leaders have encouraged desperation over the “climate crisis” in the susceptible population, and scoffing in the remainder – a very useful division for concealing the plan. The desperation messaging thus bounces off the very people who would have any inclination to look critically for such a plan or planners. Those people don’t understand the desperation of a scientist driven to “save humanity”, and thus would never bother to REALLY look for such a plan. It just seems too fantastic. One has to open up to the possibility that they might, in principle, be right, just to make the idea conceivable. But just try it. What if people REALLY BELIEVED we were going to all die in ten years, or some other typical “climate scare story”? Would you “join a global team out to save the planet”? Almost sounds like something people have been trained to do by our “entertrainment”.

So have sympathy for the devil – I mean the plan – or at least its motivation – the idea that people who really think we all will die if some are not sacrificed now – why then it all makes sense.

Now, as Steve points out, the numbers aren’t there yet on the shot, although I suspect that the long numbers on cardiac and immune deaths are more than we know yet. And beyond that, perhaps this is a bit like Hiroshima and Nagasaki – a THREAT to force us to get population under control by other means. I suspect they have a strong “Plan B” for us catching them. What is it?

I don’t like being brought to a negotiation at gunpoint, and having grabbed their gun, I’m a bit pissed. But nevertheless, here we are and it is now (and I know that what I’m selling smells like moonshine, but bear with me). Are they going to try something else, or are we going to talk about this reasonably? Judging from CDC falling back to the real science now, methinks the inevitable cover-up is going on. While I myself hang around with a crowd that screams “tribunals”, and look across the aisle at Democrats who would be the first to cry “amnesty for the climate do-gooders” (I suspect the plan counted on this), I think it does behoove us to make this stuff not able to happen again, as the most important solution. Whatever phony “lessons” come out of CDC, just ain’t gonna cut it. Human science and medicine have been damaged incredibly, but I think not irreparably, as I have faith in the truth winning in the end.

I know it all sounds fantastic, but go back over the “errors” people have made, driving toward “fair” universal deployment of the shot, and imagine that they were “trying to help”. Things start to make sense. But yes – it would be a bit cult-like, and it helps VERY much to read about the very lefty People’s Temple and “revolutionary suicide”, which is almost a model for this.

LINK: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29475


Wolf Moon

Good work, Sundance.

I will say this. These are NOT unforeseen consequences. They are “necessary consequences” in the eyes of the true-believing “climate cult”. A literal cult which was very intentionally created. Created to do exactly what it’s doing. And I have some new thinking on it that is difficult to speak just yet, but essential to understand.

I am now absolutely convinced that the “dumb vaccine” was a very intentional plan by these same people to achieve the same goal.

When people assert that the CIA was behind Jim Jones and Jonestown, or studied Jonestown – oh – they don’t know the half of it.

THIS is essential reading: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29475

If you know anything about the Frankfurt school, their fingerprints are all over this lab experiment.

They were WAY ahead of us.

In the last couple of days, I have come to understand the relationship of Jones as a model for the Climate Cult. Even the race obsession and CRT figures into prepping this psychological attack on humanity. The weird racial and sexual psychology of that cult was a key feature, also present now.

There is a joke meme about Jonestown and Fauci, but ironically, the very communist followers of Jim Jones who survived have an excellent, critical theory-based, Frankfurt-school critique of how we, the capitalist dupes, joke about their “revolutionary suicide”, as they called it, and don’t take anything they did seriously.

They can describe us accurately. We need to describe THEM accurately. This is no longer a joke.

That mentality has been WEAPONIZED against not just America, but THE WORLD.

I’ll have more about this later today, in my “population control shot” series.

The point is, it all ties together. “They” – whoever “they” are at the top – have used a CULT they have created – to “downsize” and “disempower” humanity against its will, in defiance of all common sense.

It’s VERY culty behavior – the irrationality and schizoid behavior of the key participants (Pete Buttigieg and his SUV-to-show-bike stuff) is a feature, not a bug.


Hopefully those explanations have helped you formulate your own opinions – whether you now think I’m onto something, whether you just can’t buy any of this stuff, or something in between.

Either way – where do we go from here?


Reject Climate Insanity Completely

The world is being destroyed by foolish choices, based on insane “solutions” to BAD SCIENCE which was LOCKED IN BY MONEY.

But don’t worry – we have time.

Trump is right – we can “build back a third time” after their latest destruction, even if many lives are lost or worsened in the process.

It’s tough, but accepting bad elections has consequences. Both GOPe and RINOs need to suffer for their sins. Smart solutions will now take time, where rush jobs (like AGW) lead to HACK SOLUTIONS like Windows Me or the spike protein, take your pick.

I’m not in a rush – I think we can wait until we’re at the brink, so that everybody agrees – this is all nuts.

BUUUUUT – I do have a solution, of how to get to that brink of “all the sane people agree” much faster.

In many ways, I am going to back up Sundance’s approach.

FIRST, we (ourselves) need to quit pretending.


Quit Pretending

August 15, 2022 | Sundance | 1,107 Comments


Stated differently, SCREW THE VIRTUE SIGNALS. We can’t afford to politely agree with the CRAP any more. Let people KNOW that it’s crap, that you don’t agree with it, and that you will not vote for anybody who even puts up with the crap when THEY are faced with it.

The CRAP is destroying the world, and WE don’t go along with it.

I repeat. You need to stop virtue signaling to the mainstream narratives, and most importantly THE CLIMATE NARRATIVE, in any form.

It you want to know the ONE REASON why Trump was not “allowed” to be President, I can tell you with near certainty – it is because he REJECTS the “climate games” in their entirety.

Trump LOVES the environment, but he REJECTS the weird corporate “bad science” that was layered into it, with the absurd CO2-based climate change story. And so do I. I reject their bad science and even more their toxic workarounds that stem from the bad science.

[Note: I have watched “climate science” from the beginning, and I have NEVER seen science that convinced me of anthropogenic global warming climate change being real – much less a threat to humanity, even if it was real. Indeed, I see an incipient ice age as the far greater threat – and one that is EASILY dealt with by following the path we were on before SOMEBODY decided to downgrade humanity rather than upgrading our technology. ]

No. Just NO. We don’t put up with climate insanity (please call it that), nor do we put up with those who TOLERATE IT. Not just those who advocate it. Those who TOLERATE IT.

And THAT gets to the SECOND point.

This point bears on Sundance’s shrewd recognition of the “DeSantis problem”.

We need to goad all GOP candidates into the “WEF unacceptable zone”.

Why is DeSantis acceptable to the establishment Republicans? Is it because he will tolerate climate nuttiness? The ONE necessity for a nod from Davos?

Personally, I like DeSantis, but I see clearly that the other side is using him to derail Trump. They have a smart strategy there. Evil, but smart.

Well, one way to thwart that is for DeSantis to join Trump in denouncing the climate insanity in no uncertain terms. In terms that are so strong, they make him utterly unacceptable to WEF and the quislings in GOPe.

“It’s wrong. It’s a hoax. It’s destroying the planet. It has to stop.”

And then, to spread it, a little criticism of even the slightest climate belief as a RINO position should put the fear of God in Washington.

Oh, DeSantis’s RINO advisors will go through the ROOF, but tough times call for tough measures. Klaus Schwab, Larry Fink and the Rothschild entourage need to burn in anger at the rejection. And while we’re on Fink, ESG needs to DIE. Kill it, before it kills humanity.

Climate insanity is crap, and it needs to end. NOW.

This means that a lot of GOP need to feel the STING – the BURN – of rejection.

When they so much as NOD to the bullshit, they PAY WITH THE BASE.

Are we clear? GOOD.

BURN THEIR GOD, CLIMATE CHANGE, AT THE STAKE.


Final Thoughts

We have to grab the steering wheel. It’s that simple. We’re not going to kill anybody. We’re not going to have an “insurrection”. We’re going to demand that these assholes who have fucked everything up, stand down with their insanity and their corruption.

EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. DAY. You are going to have to make these people feel like CRAP for supporting INSANITY and causing HAVOC.

Get tough. It’s the only way forward. But you can do it.

W