“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
I have an urgent research request to my fellow QTreepers. I need to know if a drug called albuterol in particular, also known as salbutamol, and other similar “-ol” drugs more generally, and even the entire class of bronchodilators, are safe and effective in treating both active and especially *recovering* COVID-19 patients.
Such a drug seems like a no-brainer good guy. And yet – we are dealing with the CABAL. THE CABAL has tried to HIDE the good guys chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, and azithromycin. Only an active MOVEMENT OF THE WELL-INTENTION has broken past their media stranglehold on truth and the media cornucopia of lies.
I’ve seen far worse in the science world, where nobody except the fooled are watching.
Are there hidden DANGERS of using these drugs? Are there paradoxical effects? Have clinicians run into any problems using them? Are there reasons NOT to use them? Are there reasons why using them might APPEAR HELPFUL for COVID-19 but might in fact be CONTRAINDICATED or dangerous in certain cases?
After all, we are dealing with the CABAL here. They can mislead even the most well-intended scientists and physicians, by altering what they know and what they don’t know.
THINK QUARANTINE. THINK TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS. THINK CHLOROQUINE. THINK GLOBAL WARMING. THINK GREEN ENERGY.
The cabal has had the power to mislead even the “professionals”. I watched it up close in “shallow state”.
Sometimes the DEVIL YOU KNOW is less dangerous than the DEVIL YOU DON’T.
For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.
We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.
For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.
In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:
Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.
Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
Other news items
Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:
I’ll say this much – the people who actually BELIEVED the Chinese Communist LULLPROP disinformation that “Chinese can’t invent anything” are going to be busy hiding the evidence for the rest of this fourth-generation war, and probably LONG AFTER THAT.
Teaching Americans not to respect our enemy was smart. Teaching Americans to teach that to each other was – dare I say – inventive.
But far more inventive was the new Chinese Virus, a.k.a. Wuhan Coronavirus, a.k.a. COVID-19, a.k.a. ChiCom-19. I shall be using the latter designation, despite the fact that someday we will likely use some captured Chinese military codename for the virus.
I have already talked about this virus as a 4GW (Fourth Generation Warfare) bioweapon HERE:
This is a Twitter thread I just did, which Twitter is WILDLY SUPPRESSING for the ChiComs. Enjoy. W This person’s tweet was in reply to one of mine (see addendum), where I had stated to somebody else that I feared an Italy scenario would have happened in America if Trump had not THWARTED his opponents …
Fourth Generation Warfare (4GW) has many definitions, and I will defer to originator William S. Lind and his followers for the official one. But for me, it can best be described as “radar war”. It is more about direction than magnitude. More about broadcast than visitation. More about “over there” than “right here”. More about “them” than “us”. More about “information” than “mass and energy”.
Here is Wikipedia’s entry for 4GW under “Modern Warfare”. You will see that it’s nothing like mine, but that’s OK. Pick whatever you want.
Fourth generation warfare (4GW) is a concept defined by William S. Lind and expanded by Thomas X. Hammes, used to describe the decentralized nature of modern warfare. The simplest definition includes any war in which one of the major participants is not a state but rather a violent ideological network. Fourth Generation wars are characterized by a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians, conflicts and peace, battlefields and safety.
While this term is similar to terrorism and asymmetric warfare, it is much narrower. Classical insurgencies and the Indian Wars are examples of pre-modern wars, not 4GW. Fourth generation warfare usually has the insurgency group or non-state side trying to implement their own government or reestablish an old government over the one currently running the territory. The blurring of lines between state and non-state is further complicated in a democracy by the power of the media.
4GW is what the ChiComs do by nature, which Trump and Flynn understood, and which is why China had to try to stop them, using China’s 4GW assets all over the planet.
4GW is all about ASYMMETRY, or rather what everybody on this planet calls asymmetry, which is, to some extent, WRONG. What they really mean is a KIND of symmetry which involves small things balancing large things.
O_O and o_o have a certain symmetry that most people call symmetry.
o _ O and O _ o also have a certain symmetry, but everybody calls this “asymmetry”. WHATEVER.
I mean more like the second case, where there are “more apparent and more significant structurally balancing inequalities”.
A 4GW bioweapon isn’t going to be stupid like a nuke. The reason we HAVE 4GW is because of the stupidity of nukes. No – a 4GW bioweapon is likely to be rather unexpected. It may have MINIMAL biological effects, to HIDE its threat, and to allow plausible deniability, but at the same time, it may have devastating ORTHOGONAL EFFECTS.
You see what I’m sayin’? It might be VERY smart – even INVENTIVE.
Now, let me get straight to the point.
Tonight, watching a PBS special presentation of NOVA – actually a very old one – I suddenly realized that the ChiCom-19 virus isn’t just any old 4GW bioweapon – smart and inventive as that may be.
No – it’s designed to be the CENTERPIECE of a very cunning type of radiative warfare that we have never seen before.
I then realized that the ChiComs KNEW that the first historically significant use of a bioweapon could not be some crude bullshit like a terrorist attack. It had to be something completely new and unseen – JUST LIKE THE WEAPON ITSELF.
The PBS special was about the 2011 Japan tsunami that took out a significant part of Japan’s northeastern shoreline. And as I watched the program – both the graphics of the tsunami waves racing across the Pacific, and the very peculiarly non-obvious and victim-surprising dangers of the tsunami – I realized that the ChiCom-19 battle plan was build on the principle of a tsunami.
I even watched the wave race out and strike Hawaii – where there were NO DEATHS due to “over-reaction” by local officials, and realized what in the heck Mike DeWine was doing.
ASYMMETRIC DEFENSE.
Which is why old-school thinkers like Bill Mitchell – who try to linearize everything – are the SUPPORTERS, and guys like Trump and DeWine are the LEADERS. They see the idea of “balancing asymmetries”. And they see it pretty damn fast. Before I did.
FACE IT. Whoever came up with this Rommel-level attack is INVENTIVE AS HELL. I think we’ll be reading about him or her in MILITARY HISTORY BOOKS.
So now, let me explain – in much greater detail – exactly HOW this thing is modeled after a tsunami.
Let’s start off with something called THE TRUMP DOCTRINE.
Here is the SUNDANCE VERSION, which I think is a GREAT defintion:
Here is my version, which is pretty much the same thing, but coming at it from more of an enforcement standpoint.
And here, I’m being very specific to the case at hand.
The Chinese communists bitterly reject the Trump doctrine. It’s not hard to see why. Their FAKE, non-popular, elitist, broken version of feudalist socialism is built on dishonor, deception, and evasion of responsibility.
Generally speaking, the Chinese prefer to commit their crimes utterly unseen, but if not that, than at least unrecognized as a crime.
SO – how do you attack America with a biological weapon without being seen? Well, that’s actually pretty dangerous. In the end, an attack WILL be surmised, and it will be recognized as an act of war. So in this case, UNRECOGNIZED beats UNSEEN.
THIS is where the interesting symmetry of the tsunami comes in.
Tsunamis aren’t really tsunamis where they START – they’re EARTHQUAKES under the SEA.
Where the tsunami STARTS, it’s just a change in the level of the seawater, suddenly rising or falling a small height over a vast area.
From roughly the point of origin, a VERY interesting wave takes off in all directions. Now it may not look like what is shown above, but that’s the basic idea – a WAVE STARTS and TRAVELS OUTWARD at a very high rate of speed.
The thing is, that wave doesn’t cause a lot of damage. NOT AT FIRST.
In fact, until such a wave approaches land, it’s entirely survivable by boats. Here is the 2011 tsunami when it was actually very close to the Japanese shoreline.
These people unaffected by the tsunami are a lot like the asymptomatic carriers and “normal, young, healthy people” who experience ChiCom-19 either not at all, or like a mild case of the flu. For them, a tsunami simply “isn’t that bad”. Same with people farther inland. THEY THEMSELVES do not actually experience the devastating effects of the tsunami ON THEIR OWN BODIES.
In other words, they live. They may experience SOCIETAL EFFECTS, but they themselves survive.
Tsunamis only cause a lot of damage in specific places. To be honest, they don’t even LOOK as dangerous as a hurricane or a tornado. Not until the last minute. But the thing is, in the places where tsunamis DO cause a lot of damage – spread out widely from the point of origin – they cause a LOT of damage.
In the places where the tsunami hits, any people who can’t get away by SOME act of getting to higher ground, are basically screwed.
All of this – ALL of this – is perfectly analogous to what ChiCom-19 does.
Tsunamis don’t strike with the same intensity everywhere, and they strike at very odd times. None of it is linear. Because the waves change speeds, heights, and directions – following streets, rivers, lowlands, breachable obstructions, and other features they encounter, they can CHANGE dramatically.
Tsunami waves, when they finally reach their target, can be dangerously deep and murderous in some places, and defensible in others very closeby.
What is basically DAMAGELESS in one community can DESTROY another next to it.
In many ways, NURSING HOMES are the “seashore communities” of ChiCom-19. And it only takes ONE OR TWO SPREADERS to DEVASTATE THEM – just like a too-low seawall, or a bay feature, or a RIVER, was all that was necessary for the Sendai tsunami to destroy a village.
10,000 people died in one village in Japan – over a third of the total victims. How do we know that we would not have a city like that – somehow utterly unprepared for ChiCom-19?
What a beautifully sinister way to wreak destruction upon a foe. A CRIME with no apparent PERPETRATOR – just the FIRST VICTIMS in the country with the CRIMINAL government.
In Germany, those first victims – good German citizens betrayed by their criminal Nazi government – were killed just as cruelly as the first victims of ChiCom-19.
Just as a tsunami eventually impacts many things besides seashore communities, including the national economy, so the ChiCom-19 tsunami battle plan was designed as a form of economic warfare.
Just as the Japan earthquake created a tsunami that caused a reactor meltdown, almost destroying the Japanese nuclear industry, so the Chinese “rebellion-stopping internal virus release” created a viral pandemic designed to strike hospital intensive care units around the world – but particularly in the United States, where it threatened to destroy our healthcare industry, just recovering from the Stalinist and Maoist inefficiencies of Obamacare, so it might be forced BACK into socialized medical FAILURE.
The whole point is that China KNEW what it was doing. It KNEW what the virus was. It LIED about the virus to give it TIME to get to its destinations BEFORE people could react properly.
I could go on, but there’s no need. I’m going to let you readers have some fun spotting more shocking analogies.
Just read some articles and watch some videos about tsunamis.
Maybe look at some OTHER tsunamis.
You will see – this virus was given the characteristics, the circumstances, AND the ASSISTANCE needed for it to STRIKE America just like a tsunami.
So what’s happening now?
As far as I’m concerned, whatever our Commander In Chief wants to tell us.
For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.
We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.
For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.
In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:
Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.
Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
Other news items
Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:
This is a Twitter thread I just did, which Twitter is WILDLY SUPPRESSING for the ChiComs.
Enjoy.
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Why is Ohio so prominent in the fight against ChiCom-19, and taking steps so strangely ahead of the current situation? Part of it is DeWine taking old virus fighter Fauci at his word – the smart fight (see rope-a-dope) is IN THE FUTURE – not now. But that's not all….
Would you believe "Trump evading the greatest Democrat / Chinese / socialist / globalist / fake news trap and hoax yet – even bigger than Russian collusion – even uglier than Syrian chemical weapons – even deeper in the administrative state than NSC-CIA-GO8 phony impeachment"?
I believe that America's enemies (including Dem leadership) are 100% signed onto the idea that they must beat Trump in Ohio. Thus expect to see a lot of chess there. So far, all of their moves have been to try to make POTUS react too late: sneak virus forward, hold POTUS back.
I am now of the opinion that the fight for 2020 will be harder, dirtier, and more scorched earth than 2016. Trump's message in presser about "virus gone" is partially to China and Dems. Honeybadger will wrestle the bees and the cobras as long as it takes, without giving a xxxx. pic.twitter.com/JvORy9wtO8
ChiCom-19 is a far more dangerous weapon than most bioweapons, because it is *4GW* – meaning Fourth Generation Warfare. This is a term due to William S. Lind. You can tell how important 4GW is, by how hard the leftists have worked to discredit both the idea and the author. pic.twitter.com/6jzHsn9IuA
Some say ChiCom-19 is simply a hoax. Others say the virus is a real threat. Would you believe BOTH?
The moment I saw the first graph of fatality vs. age, I saw a human hand, and knew it was a cunning bioweapon – a more efficiently culling new flu without comfort of a vaccine. pic.twitter.com/eZI6LlaqWY
ChiCom-19 is extremely Alinsky – it creates a FEAR which is much bigger than the thing itself. The fear is a great and very predictable manipulator. That is the HOAXY half of it. Resisting the FEAR, the MANIPULATION and the inevitable STATIST LAWFARE is a must to PLAY SMART. pic.twitter.com/hlVgSX7kmT
However, ChiCom-19 is not a stupid hoax, like Jussie Smollett's little lynching "prank". It's actually a lot smarter than the Phony Witchhunt. It's even smarter than the Fake Whistleblower scam, which rather impressively accused a criminal investigation of being a crime. pic.twitter.com/DQBuiB6NJ9
In a world where influenza amounts to the Uranium 238 we use for dumb cool heavy bullets, ChiCom-19 is the Uranium 235 where if you make ONE bullet too big, you get something VERY unexpected.
We can create a LOCAL CRITICALITY using ChiCom-19, and we can create a 4GW explosion. pic.twitter.com/xVQ3fgO9x6
Translation: ChiCom-19 has a property like Uranium 235, which "can't help setting off the next couple of U-235 atoms". ChiCom-19 can infect the NEXT couple of people before you even know you HAVE IT. That is a beautiful property for a VIRAL BOMB. A very sneaky, hidden bomb. pic.twitter.com/bsc4l1rK2U
Broadcasting 4GW often involves working with friendlies of different kinds in "enemy territory" – providing them with things or circumstances they need to degrade enemy capabilities. Those things, including ChiCom-19, can be provided without any choice.https://t.co/9Rkk292hAJpic.twitter.com/DSGB6lTTcR
American corporate media are easily manipulated as part of 4GW, predictable in their support or opposition of memes, viewpoints, and narratives. They are particularly good at SUPPRESSING viewpoints, ideas, and realities. Suppression of Chinese responsibility is a key goal. pic.twitter.com/0yudKz8Niw
4GW is deeply tied to mass media, social media, psychology, morale, and creations of perceptions and false realities. It is far easier to defend when the enemy cannot even rally its People to see an attack. China's strong 4GW abilities are easily seen by this Wikipedia entry. pic.twitter.com/NC3T24cIZC
The Chinese aren't alone, here – their American, English, and Russian Bolshevik buddies are helping like crazy, and LEFTISM is the common denominator to follow. Here is a typical example of Soviet Marxist dregs using RT to come to the aid of China on the Wuhan virus attack. pic.twitter.com/XBlmzWkDJX
The point of all the racial blamecasting is to deflect from and deny China's role in releasing the virus. The automatic presumption of racial motive was quickly SEEDED before Americans had enough FACTS to realize that the Chinese and Iranians have been LYING from the beginning. pic.twitter.com/QOomNBPEHo
Remember "bat soup"? Well, here is what "bat soup" looks like now. The trick is this. It was never a mistake – it was 4GW. They USED our media to TEACH you a lie, and when that lie didn't work, they BLAMED you for believing the old lie ("rayciss!"), while creating a new one. pic.twitter.com/qWsennU2NX
I've been in science for a long time, so I observed CCP plants pushing racial and other psy-ops on US soil since the '80s. Their loyalty to Beijing is extreme, even when badly pretending otherwise. It helps to SLAP your old PSY-OP beliefs they all hate the CCP. They don't. pic.twitter.com/PkG5llSCvj
So back to ChiCom-19, the amazing 4GW bio-weapon that can be pushed into local criticality rather easily. Now that our MEDIA have successfully pushed to not even link it to the point of origin in CHINA, it will be doubly hard to spot the HIDDEN BLADE now deployed worldwide.
When I saw how quickly they had gotten this stuff close to China's "other Western Hemisphere problem" – Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro – going through his Press Secretary Fabio Wajngarten – well, I simply had to ADMIRE Chinese intelligence for that one. That was SLICK. pic.twitter.com/cXR844rbrN
Are you curious how the ChiComs might have done that? How they might have gotten ChiCom-19 just one hop away from Bolsonaro? It's not hard. On 3/12 "we" confirmed they nailed Wajngarten. On 3/14, look what shows up at the White House. GOOD CATCH.https://t.co/s12RtmjtGl
These incidents all in the realm and range of "spook activities". They're all plausibly deniable, and carefully contrived, easily hiding reality under several layers of smoke and mirrors, a la Mar-a-Lago.https://t.co/7rSFWXSSHy
The much more concerning way this virus goes critical is not a "sharp spike" toward one person. It is INSERTION of the virus into a small, medium, or large cluster of high-mortality potential victims. Nursing homes, retirement communities, SCOTUS, etc.https://t.co/06cvrdEH4P
Such criticalities can even go REALLY BIG, like in Italy. People are STILL debating exactly WHY Italy went critical. High age, overrun hospitals, and smoking are all theories. But the most concerning theory is TIME – that Italy did not quarantine HARD enough SOON enough. pic.twitter.com/pFzkT8ulaY
Now – here is the worst part – where the really ugly side of 4GW kicks in – especially in dealing with the immoral ChiComs. Remember the Australian brushfire ARSONISTS? The LEFTISTS who exacerbate the "global warming threat" to FURTHER THE HOAX?https://t.co/BVMXPKmScP
"Hoax to prove" is basically scientific fraud, and the mentality is quite prevalent in "climate science" – which interestingly helps China. Why? One simply has to understand SOCIAL PSYCHOLOGY at levels which the American press does not, to see how politically EFFECTIVE it is. pic.twitter.com/qwY8XX3D8e
Leftists have been socially conditioned not to see "hoax to prove" as a lie. This is what Orwell said about 2+2=5, only much nicer, without jackboots, and all filled with Oprah hugs and Ellen smuchas, as long as you believe it, too. This is why I call them the "Nazis of Nice". pic.twitter.com/YJ3bRCmpZV
The fact is, though, that somebody inevitably gets hurt in these sneaky lying hoaxes. Usually, at first, it's the alleged perpetrator. In Smollett's case, that would be people like ME with our MAGA HATS. But when TRUTH FINALLY ARRIVES, it's likely to be the ACCUSER, TOO. pic.twitter.com/aRGot17ixz
The trouble is, people DIE in arson BRUSHFIRES and hoax-based RIOTS. And they could DIE in hoaxy "proofs" of Trump's incompetence.
Don't tell me that some of these TDS-afflicted, hoax-unseeing "resistoids" aren't already HOPING for it, because – yeah – they are. "Blue wave." pic.twitter.com/YiQGFiQpf7
This person’s tweet was in reply to one of mine (see addendum), where I had stated to somebody else that I feared an Italy scenario would have happened in America if Trump had not THWARTED his opponents as he did. I do NOT believe that an Italy scenario is inevitable here – AT ALL. In fact, I feel that such thinking is unwise at best – dangerous at worst.
My initial reaction was that the person subconsciously HOPES for the bad stuff to happen to America to “get Trump”. So did several other posters, a few of whom replied to him negatively.
What is very interesting is that this TDS poster does NOT see himself AT ALL as having a “Schadenfreude for Trump Failure” worldview. And yet, I am pretty sure that most of us, reading his comment, can not only sense it, but can sense the beginnings of both hoax-tolerating TDS, and maybe even hoax-permitting TDS.
To me, this is psychology which the Chinese communists KNOW deeply, CREATE easily, and EXPLOIT routinely. All of our lying, hoaxing socialist Democrat neighbors are – IMO – the product of Chinese communist understanding of how to mass-brainwash Americans through a captive media.
I kindly ask people to treat this person nicely and not give him a bunch of shit. I sense the possibility of psychological breakthrough here. I mean, I’m trying to save Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Maybe HE can learn to save Donald Trump, who has done more to save RBG than ANY OF US.
Thanks!
Moving on again…..
Now I don't want to wish this crap into existence – that would make me no better than THEM.
But I have found that – sadly – the entire Trump base has to look out for our legitimately elected and beloved President, because the HATE against him – and US, too – is SO STRONG. pic.twitter.com/WNcV6pieYh
Even when the media pretends to back Pres. Trump, they don't. Take this corona simulator by the Evil WaPo, showing how "flattening the curve" works. The subtle hidden message is that "social distancing" works better than quarantine, so Trump is wrong.https://t.co/WqILNeMVV2
I could spend a whole thread on the trick science here. LATER. For now, note these simple facts. They never show more than one WEAK example of quarantine. They never show quarantine PLUS social distancing. And they never show their FUNDAMENTAL RELATIONSHIP.
The fact is that WE – you, me, POTUS, and all of MAGA and AMERICA – are engaged in a 4GW battle with China. POTUS cannot engage the ChiComs, the media, and their wicked ChiCom-19 weapon like WE CAN, using OUR tactics. He battles the media his way. We battle them in OUR WAYS. pic.twitter.com/AqDaNnyIQ3
We must show that CHINA attacks our cultural icons when they attack our elders. They attack our history, our culture, our religion, our flag, and the bravest defenders of these things.
To the Chinese communists, and those who helped them construct ChiCom-19, we say NO. pic.twitter.com/Xc1VA4m68d
An attack on SCOTUS is an attack on our Constitution. An attack on our Constitution is an attack on US. And an attack on US by any method – including the most cunning and deniable 4GW attacks, will be met by the most honorable and fierce 4GW counterattacks ever launched.
This was a short thread where I repeated some of these ideas differently.
We don't know what they know. China's scientific community is highly controlled. It's how they learned to surreptitiously control OUR scientific community. It's how the climate hoax worked. VERY SUBTLE control of our scientific community through advanced social sciences.
I don't believe they have any magic elixir, although they may have a vaccine, but that is not essential. From what I can see, this virus is not that far off from a naturally novel animal virus. It was tweaked just enough to add the features it needed to be a good bioweapon.
A good bioweapon should not be too lethal – especially if it is being used primarily as a 4GW weapon. HOAXING, FEAR, POLITICS, ECONOMICS. Alinsky. Think of it as wanting TEAR GAS instead of NERVE GAS. They wanted to deploy something to attack Trump and his supporters. A WEDGE.
It appears that the ChiComs believed their media control could suppress the belief that it was human-tweaked, but that was a mistake. The presence of spike changes which evidenced design cascaded to produce plausible theories of intentional use, and then it was too late to stop.
They had also published too much in journals they could not immediately silence, and had too much paper trail on collaboration in research that would be immediately damning in the event of an incident. They tried "bat soup", and then "bat soup is racist", but both failed. pic.twitter.com/mB7yYHnYfB
Not glee…just a fact. 😑 It's a shame because it didn't have to be this way.
But, think what you want to think because your petty projection of my feelings doesn't change the reality. This is a worldwide epidemic and will affect everyone. Period.
— Alex Scheibli 🇨🇦 🇷🇴 🇬🇧🇺🇸🌊 (@diesel982002) March 17, 2020
— Alex Scheibli 🇨🇦 🇷🇴 🇬🇧🇺🇸🌊 (@diesel982002) March 17, 2020
Addendum III – Miscellaneous ChiCom-19 and 4GW Tweets and Important Links
Actually, Bill, we shut it down for the ones who DIDN'T and WON'T die. My guess is the American total would have been in the tens of thousands, had we done nothing to limit COVID. And they would ALL be blamed on Trump.
I think the question is cities. Nursing homes need to be STERILE of the stuff. That's the key. We just cannot let staff become asymptomatic carriers, nor can we allow staff to come into CONTACT with asymptomatic carriers. This stuff is very dangerous to retirees & smokers.
My wife and I and neighbors (pre- and early retirement) have probably had it (Iran connection). Very contagious. Shortness of breath is the big give-away. "SARS". None of us needed hospitalization, but the two ex-smokers had it worse. A crud-type flu – you've had similar.
Because we can't be *certain* we had it, or that it won't mutate to a catchable version again, we have to be careful. My lungs are not back to 100%, so I don't want to get it again.
Maybe THAT is the primary goal here. He is being schmoozed back into the "virus and vaccine research kabuki" religion. For the record, I like REAL vaccines, but I don't trust the Clinton-Gates-Soros-China virus cabal – they're up to pop. controls, like boomer-killer ChiCom-19.
Something REALLY stinks in China and Iran, and it’s not just the burning bodies.
The TIMELINES simply don’t add up. They are FALLING APART. And you know it’s REAL because somebody is racing to rescue it.
Facebook is now cracking down on “unapproved” posts about the CoronaVirus.
Yeah, Chinaberg. I can do the math.
There was a point, recently, where I found that I could explain a LOT MORE about COVID-19 by abandoning China’s version of events, and coming up with my own. Part of that was explaining my own SARS-like symptoms, from a definite Corona infection that I picked up in mid-January at an “Iran-connected” meeting. Of course, at THAT time, we knew nothing about Iran.
But how could that be? It doesn’t fit the TIMELINE.
Good thing I stayed out of nursing homes for two weeks, thanks to a 5-day induction period, and having seen the DEADLY GRAPH of COVID morbidity vs. age, but it was close. My friend Suspicious Cat may have saved a few old veterans.
vigilanti semper
I’m still not breathing right, by the way. THAT bugs me. It feels very “SARS”.
My wife and neighbor did well, but my neighbor’s wife was hit pretty hard. I think that she, like me, is an ex-smoker.
But it’s more than personal. Things just don’t add up – and I’m not just talking about the NUMBERS, which are OFF. The numbers are showing too many positives too fast in the wrong countries and specific people – meaning those who generally seem too “helpful” to China and Iran if they caught it.
Bolsonaro? Oh, as soon as I saw that near-hit, I realized that I could WRITE THAT OPERATION. The VECTOR DEFLECTOR on that one – oh – that was “too smart”. Y’all know what I’m sayin’? Oh, that was SLICK. I smell Chinese intelligence ALL OVER that.
No – it’s more than just the numbers.
The Chinese communists and the Iranians – poor victims? No. This doesn’t sniff right. Mass graves in Iran that are the BAD GUYS and not the INNOCENT GOOD GUYS? No. That doesn’t sniff right. Execution-style gunfire recorded by half-hidden phones in China, then disappearing from the Fake News here? No. That doesn’t sniff right.
Young doctors dying and disappearing in China? Hmmmm. Maybe there ARE explanations. Maybe these are the SAME duplicitous ChiComs and the SAME scheming Iranians we’ve always known – SNEAKY – LYING – FAKING – HOAXING – TRICKING – and Fake News is simply helping to sell ONE MORE SOCIALIST / GLOBALIST NARRATIVE.
YES. That’s where I am now. There is a NARRATIVE coming from China, Iran, and the Fake News, and I no longer buy it.
How do we know they weren’t political prisoners from recent uprisings? With or without death by coronavirus?
I suppose we can thank Rod Rosenstein’s sister, Neutron Nancy, for her early attitude on testing, which OH SO UNFORTUNATELY hid any cases in the United States other than NARRATIVE cases involving cruise ships. And THANK YOU GAIL for that piece of the puzzle, because THAT really helped me see things. They wanted it here. And they wanted it to STICK.
Sorry, this is all bullshit.
And now – NOW – I’m hearing that I’m not the only author here who had a NASTY, NOVEL, RESPIRATORY DISEASE in December or January, where the only reason NOT to think it was probably COVID 19, is the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative timeline.
SIDEBAR: I am asking all people here who think they may have gotten COVID-19 outside of the Fake News timeline, including those who previously shared information, to please re-post a description of their experience HERE for it to be available to researchers who find this post. The more non-personal details provided, the better.
Wolf Moon 1776
It took ONE OR TWO PEOPLE here to start questioning the ChiCom narrative openly, and all of a sudden – BOOM – many of us who were PRIVATELY questioning it, start questioning it BIGLY and PUBLICLY.
NOW do you see why Mark Chinaberg is having an emergency over at Facebook? They have to shut this stuff down. And they CAN.
That is the beauty of socialist media. Just like China, they can shut it down. Just like 2016, they can support THE HOAX. They have complete control.
Well, too bad, Mark. WE’RE going to discuss it here. We need SKEPTICISM to figure out what’s going on.
SO – I am inviting everybody here to BE HONEST – spill it. What are your thoughts – your speculations – your theories – your questions – your ideas – your inspirations – your absolutes – your certainties – your uncertainties – your fears – your doubts – your revelations – your own experiences – EVERYTHING you think about the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative surrounding this virus, and what you think is REALLY going on.
Let’s brainstorm this stuff until ChiComs and Fake News Hoaxers are wetting their undies.
SPILL!
W
John Fink and James Coburn discuss case in a scene from the film ‘The Carey Treatment’, 1972. (Photo by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/Getty Images)
Right now, many people are suffering grave confusion about the corona virus. They are NOT exhibiting what I now believe would be calm, constructive, aware, and SURVIVAL-BOUND [for everybody] patterns of thinking. They are in fact headed for trouble of their own making.
If not trouble for themselves, then trouble for others.
Many of you should prepare to be pissed off by what I say next.
At the one end, of what I regard as “wrong on corona”, are people who say “it’s all a hoax” – typically from the comfort of an age group that is unlikely or less likely to die. Yeah, they’re right – there IS a lot of bullshit here – TOTALLY ADMITTING THAT – and the enemies of Trump are pushing that bullshit hard. But remember – the SNEAKIER weapon than a purely disinformative pimping of a normal virus, is an ACTUAL BAD VIRUS, because then it can be weaponized for ALL KINDS OF ERROR.
Too much response. Too little response. Or just WRONG RESPONSE.
But yes, there are still some who believe corona is a COMPLETE hoax – that the whole world has turned a 100% nothingburger into a 100% fake “impossibleburger”. For them it is ALL a hoax. They will believe nothing else. They will FIGHT YOU over even the strongest and most scientific indication that there is a real virus that kills people of some age – of ANY age – more strongly than a normal bad flu. They are RELIGIOUSLY opposed to believing this thing has ANY reality. They are reactive to any argument, almost to the extent that shills are reactive to any argument.
My advice? Walk away – stay away – don’t invite them anywhere near you or those you love. Such people are not going to give a shit when they accidentally kill you or your parents in assisted living. They may be nice people, but they are dangerously myopic, and you cannot afford to be around such people right now. The accidentally infective are bad enough. The willfully infective are an unnecessary risk.
At the other end, are the people who think we’re all gonna die. These people are simply wrong. They – like the “no danger” crowd – are a RISK.
Watch this entire clip for maximum benefit.
Notice how only TWO PEOPLE are thinking AHEAD here – (1) the woman who understands the math and science of momentum, and (2) the child who understands animal behavior from experience.
Others are acting SMART, for the most part, but only two are THINKING AHEAD in a CONSTRUCTIVE MANNER when CRISIS HITS.
Yeah, it’s just a movie, but we relate to it because we see this stuff all the time. The reason I am here with you right now, is because I directed people how to apply first aid to ME when I could not. COOL HEADS SURVIVE.
So where are MOST OF US on the coronavirus?
Most of us are in the middle, where we are over-reacting in some ways, under-reacting in others, and generally located somewhere on the first 4 stages of THIS CURVE:
Scott Adams was one of the first and best “Trump Whisperers” and “Trumpsplainers”. He demonstrated a powerful ability to help us make sense of Trump’s weird election magic, during 2015 and 2016. As Adams explained, Trump is one of the greatest “persuaders” of all time.
If you followed Scott on Trump, which generally meant following Scott on Twitter or his own website, then you know what I’m talking about.
Let me tell you right now – following Scott Adams on the coronavirus will be one of the BEST moves you ever made in your life.
Thanks to my anti-#WuhanVirus health and fitness plan, I feel spectacular. Lots of sleep. Daily walks in the sun. Light weight-training. Clean diet. Social isolation (reduces stress too!)
Turns out I was almost following Scott’s plan, but not quite. I had the [physical world] social isolation stuff down, but not all of the other stuff as good as it could be.
This guy knows his shit. He’s very persuasive, just like Trump, because he knows how AWESOME a weapon TRUTH is.
Do yourself a favor and follow him.
NOW – time to show you nine other people who are very good follows on Twitter, to stay ahead of things. One or two tweets from each.
HERE WE GO.
2 – John Carlos Baez – physicist
John Baez is a very no-nonsense guy. He doesn’t suffer crackpots, and he’s even brusque and unfriendly toward “woo woo” physics types when they pull out the antimatter drive. Much of the time, his lack of diplomacy about saying what needs to be said annoys me, being that I am more of an eye-roll comforter and interpreter of crackpots. However, right now, we need a BITCHSLAP, and Baez is the guy to deliver it.
Here's the coronavirus data, overlayed with the dates offset by the amounts shown. One of these countries is not like the rest. Everyone else will be Italy in 9-14 days time. pic.twitter.com/VESY54X1gP
Amazing! What South Korea is doing is really bending their #Covid19 epidemic curve. Only 131 new cases today, versus 909 on Feb. 29. It's not just China. This clearly can be done. https://t.co/sueAO9XLF7pic.twitter.com/Bw7WX1s9nM
Yeah, don’t think for a moment that I’m not capable of CYNICALLY SYMPATHIZING with the two extremes I just dissed. I just do so from the position of STARK REALISM that both are right on some mutually exclusive things, so they can’t both be right on all things.
Andrew Torba and Gab have been kicked to the curb by so many dupes, foils, useful idiots, and controlled opposition groups – to say nothing of the very ENEMIES of those groups – that they have vision through complexities that most people don’t even begin to see as PRESENT.
I only suggest following him if you can HANDLE him, and – quite frankly – most cannot. However, viewpoints like Torba’s are actually a form of vaccination against many mental pathologies such as PC, so I really recommend following him if you can even BARELY STAND him.
My prediction? You will eventually admire him – even if at a distance.
5 – The Last Refuge (Sundance)
If you’re HERE, then you know why you probably need to be following SD on Twitter.
GET GRANULAR WHEN YOU NEED GRAIN.
1) A review of the White House response to the Coronavirus outbreak…. IN JANUARY, before most were paying attention. pic.twitter.com/ZQGI9Ivb0p
Part of being a survivor is TRULY getting over lingering animosities. This allows you to THINK CLEARLY.
LOGICAL THINKING. You should be paying attention to Sundance right now. It’s LOGICAL.
At the very least, you can watch Sundance educate people on all the things they need educating on.
🤔…"All of these decisions to cancel events, close schools or postpone opening days have been made by state, local and private sector leaders."…
Um, that's what happens in a constitutional republic. Did you forget civics? Maybe you should check the 10th Amendment, senator. https://t.co/gCF0evO4Ut
Sharyl, in my opinion, has been one of the BRAVEST and most independent voices in medical reporting EVER. In my opinion you cannot be getting the complete picture without getting her take on things.
Yeah, you may be wise to the fact that Jack Posobiec is some kind of mystery shill, behind his journalism gig, but I DON’T CARE – you will get the good stuff from him, even when he’s in “DISINFO MODE”, and in that event you just reinterpret him.
Right now, you will get a lot of good stuff. Stick with him.
Day one I explained they never would have copped to it if they could have covered it up
And they can cover up a lot
Disease outbreaks are a specific existential threat to the CCP's Mandate of Heaven pic.twitter.com/jIuOVUdT3A
This is the guy who spotted how the Democrats and Deep State were weaponizing the red-green axis to try to get rid of President Donald Trump. He warned Trump, was discovered by globalist dupe General McMaster, and was fired. This says it all, right there.
Nobody is doing a better job of fighting the weaponized, anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, Fake News CHEERLEADERS OF DOOM, than our Trump “braggist” Bill Mitchell.
I'm here practically 24/7 fighting against the lies and hype surrounding the COVID-19 panic. The media over-reaction is intended to break the Trump economy!
If I helped you in 2016 and you appreciate my voice now, please donate generously. Thanks! 🙂https://t.co/uUFXfxuV2D
This guy is a wonderful man and he is CALMING PEOPLE DOWN. Yeah, he’s technically over-calming on the elderly, but that is a small-potatoes sin in my book. There are so many who are hyping it up big, and so few who are 95% right like this guy, so I have to support the 95% right.
Ok, enough is enough. The ONLY reason mortality for COVID-19 is 3.5% in the USA is the lack of broad testing. ONLY the sickest are being tested – that means more of that group will die. In S. Korea they test thousands and thousands and the mortality rate is .7%. https://t.co/o78THfu5z5
You can feel free to talk back gently and respectfully to Bill – he WILL NOT BAN YOU! So GET IN THE CONVERSATION! Follow Bill Mitchell.
10 – OUR DAUGHN!!!
Stunned by how uninformed pundits are on subject of COVID-19. We've done 5 threads, mostly weekly, thus far. Here is an accumulation of links, video, over 100 sources, analyzing the economic AND medical impact of the virus. Be informed, not fearful.https://t.co/EtEvVy8fsY
You’ve been following Daughn’s articles here, but THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. Before those articles happen, she is out on Twitter interacting with all the big names and FIGURING OUT WHAT’S NEXT…..
Dirty Lying CCP holds about 1 trillion in US bonds. I'm ready to put that trillion in escrow. pic.twitter.com/7b4MHxiadC
Fighting with liberals and defenders of Deep State and THE HOAX…..
Is THAT why the CCP shut down the military academy 3 weeks prior, to protect them, before telling the general public? Because the CCP KNEW, and let the disease progress, allowed people to travel over New Yr and infect the whole world. Xi MUST resign for this failure.
Not afraid to take on WAKE UP MAGGIE and a whole assortment of VILLAINS….
Bwhwhhhaaa, Maggie used to only claim she could read Trump's mind. Now, she claims she can read his supporters minds as well. No Maggie, I took it to mean inducements to bring biz back to the USA, specifically medical supplies.
in which Wolf Moon introduces several new and not-so-new characters who he may or may not actually know, as political gossiptainment
We begin with a reminder of my dear sister Fox Moon, who managed to get herself into a previous weird post which dealt with the an absolutely beautiful and eminently believable TROLL of the Green New Deal.
Yes, indeed – “we don’t have to eat them now“. More on that later in this post, believe it or not.
ANYWAY – someday you’ll hear the full story of dear Sis, but not today.
These railroad tracks you see in this picture meander close to a certain community wherein you can find Fox, as well as additional canine relatives of Wolf, namely Coyote Moon and Dog Moon. Obviously we’re all related, but if you had to guess which one of us is the most domesticated, just going by the metaphor, you would probably pick wrong.
Coyote and Dog have a love-hate thing, and – well – the family just puts up with the nonsense. Kinda cute, but it gets old. ENTYWHO, it is through Dog, bless her nutty heart, that I became aware of my most excellent source, who I have nicknamed POL Garbageman, in the same style as ENT Lawyer (“ENTY“) of “CDAN” fame.
Let’s go backwards on that to explain who in the hell POL Garbageman – affectionately known as POLY (i.e., like “ENTY“) – might be.
CDAN stands for “Crazy Days and Nights“, one of THE BEST Hollywood gossip blogs. It is allegedly put out by an “entertainment lawyer” – hence ENT Lawyer – hence ENTY.
You may have heard of ENTY from NEON REVOLT, who is also a “Hollywood” persona, and who has popularized ENTY in ANON circles. This right here is useful reading.
The equivalent of Q drops in CDAN world is a thing called “blind items“, wherein ENTY posts a scandalous story with just enough information that “those in the know” can figure out who he’s talking about. After it eventually becomes obvious to EVERYBODY who was being talked about, typically through developing legal troubles, ENTY will then confirm the actual identities with a “reveal”.
You can click on the picture or the link for a closer look.
Are you with me?
OK.
Now, what ENTY is to high-powered entertainment and political scandals, POLY is to bush league, grass-roots, who-in-the-hell-are-these-people political scandals in ONE SMALL FLYOVER COMMUNITY that happens to be – unfortunately for all involved – right in the center of a MASSIVE firefight between Republicans and Democrats in a swing state.
So when you see WOLF’S ears perk up about stuff in that place – well – it means that WOLF is about to have a STORY and POLY has most likely been ON THE JOB.
Ah, yes. As you can see by the above image, my dear sister has a real sense of humor about this dysfunctional relationship, but what the hell – in this paleface world of encroaching civilization, Fox steals cat food [read: gets juicy leads from “moonstruck” suits] and Wolf does a little “dumpster diving”. Coyote yips and Dog howls. All is well in Moon Meadows. Pocahontas wishes she had a fraction of the action found on the Moon Tribe Reservation, where Suspicious Cat always has a home with his canine friends.
Anyway, POL Garbageman’s blind items are sometimes discernible to those who are familiar with politics in “a certain swing state”. Now – one has to be careful – a lot of the CRAP that “Amazing POLY” (the Bulllova of watchmen) digs up isn’t what you think it is at first. Too-clear half-and-half in a funny deflated balloon may be – ERRRRR – something else. Likewise, something else may actually be spittle and cream in an old birthday balloon from Chuck-E-Cheese. It takes a PROFESSIONAL to sort this stuff out.
That’s where I come in.
Now – thanks to the amazing POLY, I’m in possession of two blind items which appeared to be garbage at first, but now appear to be some kind of precious metal worth recycling – possibly aluminum or even steel. Because time is short before they reach their expiration dates, I’m leaving them on a bench in the park for others to figure them out beyond what I can do.
One leads nowhere, but is interesting as hell, and typical of the politics in my dear sister’s abode. The other is potentially shocking in its ramifications, because it appears to be part of a new global hoax. And while Democrat hoaxes are a dime a dozen – even the global ones that involve millions of deaths – a new one is always good for many memes.
So let’s GO THERE. Shocking goes first, because it’s less of a mystery.
BLIND ITEM #1
This JV “aw shucks” red shirt barely got a speaking role in Star Trek: Pelosi, after a squeaker Oscar from a Trump-praised performance in the off-season nail-biter indy film District 12. Everybody thinks he’s gonna win a role in Star Trek: McCarthy, but certain virally persuasive overseas backers of the project seem to have a different idea for the next installment of the franchise – both the youngish talent and the name of the film. Two young starlets seeking the role, curiously the same age, are being sent out, like young, fresh, female versions of Mini Mike and Crazy Bernie, in a match that looks curiously like Biden vs. Bernie. Those with an opinion think it’s all Blue League Roller Derby, but nobody knows who Captain P. really plans to have star with her in the internationally-backed sequel. The last “aw shucks” blue shirt wasn’t convincing enough to get the role. Will a white AOC do it?
The young starlets both say the right things to get an audition – that it’s time to reign in the phasers and retire McCoy’s country doctor routine for whoever that guy named “O” gives you. One swears she’s almost a red shirt, and that hubs is handy with a phaser. But still – she says we gotta do something about unregulated phasers, unequal medical scanners, and unapproved, misleading fanfic. On that last item, hope you’re ready for a No. 2 pencilneck. Scary stuff. The other swears that she’s an outsider – despite money, organization, attention to process, and that old picture of her with the genius who invented the internet. One looks like she walked out of White Hatty’s Palace of Smoke and Mirrors. The other looks like an Irish version of AOC.
The red-haired AOC is running as Florence Nightingale above the fold, and curiously in time with the moment’s viral melodies coming from the overseas backers. Very convenient that they’re sending such particular casting right now – when a closer inspection shows that this particular talent may have been in the pipe for quite some time. The implications are unsettling.
BLIND ITEM #2
This character actor has played a wide variety of minor roles in local and regional theater, as well as a few years in the cinematic big time. He’s a local red shirt machine room boy from way back. Never rose above red shirt, but he has always been a popular team player. He was holding the hatchet when Tea-phoid Mary went down, so the machine could get their boy into the starring role in One of Fifty Theaters. It was a clean hit, but it was dirty politics. Dirty politics, as the last theater star bitterly called it on his way out. The karma – it burns.
Somebody wants revenge. The Mailers of Death are falling all over Fox Meadows like it’s VJ day and the bombers are on the horizon. The character actor, long ago, said unfortunate things about a man who would become No. 1 on Team Red. Those things are coming back to haunt him. Old machine things, and old machine positions, distorted in embarrassing ways, so obviously that’s not who’s behind the leaflet drop. In fact, the machine room wants him in the show, again, in a non-speaking role. But it may not be enough. If people aren’t reading their slate cards, or if the Bible-and-Gun-Cling-ons successfully decloak, this old red shirt may go where red shirts are wont to go.
The big question is, who does Red No. 1 really want here? It’s too small for an endorsement either way, and Red Shirt may not be the most Q+T-pie pick of the litter, but he wields a mean hatchet that might be useful for Blind Item #1, when the Borg arrive in the fall. Trust the Plan? Sure. Trust the Machine? Nobody knows, because nobody knows if it’s part of the Plan. Mysteries abound.
There you go. I have a strong idea what is going on here – COUGH – but I will let this sit out there for a while before I post reveals, in hopes that I’ll have better answers.
Enjoy the show. Even if it’s all kabuki.
W
Interesting. Pocahontas, Q, and Wolf Moon ain’t the only ones sending coded smoke signals.
This is a continued thread especially meant for reporting your ACTUAL PERSONAL ground reports – what you are SEEING and HEARING about the coronavirus, and your THOUGHTS in relation to those things.
OTHER reports of things relevant to PREPARATION, QUARANTINE, and TREATMENT are welcome.
However, please remember that the normal coronavirus thread may be a more suitable place for your comment – particularly if it is related to politics, international actions, biowarfare, investigations, virology, and origination of the epidemic.
I was at the FLYOVER GROCERY STORE again today. Same grocery chain – different store.
I was there to shop for specific items that I wanted, such as guaifenesin, and to deepen our stock of normal edible items and paper products which will keep us from having to go to the store during any local quarantine.
So YEAH – I wanted to buy a good supply of TP!!!
These are the things I observed….
About as busy as usual on a busy day, before a holiday, in the middle of the afternoon.
The carts were ALMOST all GONE from the cart bay area. This is typical when they’re busy.
Crowd behavior seemed almost but not quite normal, in contrast to complete normalcy almost two days earlier. The customers just seemed edgier than before. The crowd is a bit older on average at this store, so perhaps that’s part of why they seemed more concerned. However, I suspect that more frequent reports of identified patients in the United States is having the greatest effect here.
Normally the pharmaceutical section is almost empty of shoppers in the aisles. One or two overall. Today, three or four. There were MORE than the usual number of people looking over pharmacy products – about the same density as the rest of the store.
Overall pharmaceutical and vitamin stock was good. NO EMPTY SHELVES SEEN in that section.
I did not closely inspect vitamins – I was interested in GUAIFENESIN (Mucinex) in particular.
There were many choices in the cold and flu remedies, but I could tell that they were moving quickly, because there was evidence of a lot of inspection of products (moved, misplaced, disordered).
The CHEAP GENERIC guaifenesin was moving VERY FAST, and I had to REACH WAY BACK for a second package.
Otherwise, plenty of products.
Guaifenesin (Mucinex) now requires a DRIVER’S LICENSE – not just a date – and they are scanning the DL into the system. COUGH.
According to the clerk, this policy on this particular product began A WEEK AGO. I cannot verify this – I have never bought it before.
“Normie prepper products” are being placed in prominent displays at the ENDS OF AISLES. These items include:
crackers and other traditional, long-lasting snack products
spaghetti and other dry pasta
helper products like Hamburger Helper and Tuna Helper
dried potatoes
coffee
toilet paper and paper towels
facial tissues
canned vegetables and meats
canned soups
I did not check wipes, despite noting that they were in the end-of-row display at the other store two days ago. I did not notice them this time, but I did not check all the rows.
LOTS of OJ, all kinds present. SOME types of milk seemed to be gone.
TOILET PAPER was taking the biggest hit. Efficiency brands (like Scott) preferred by tough-assed preppers were GONE. Fluffy Charmin and other wimpy brands of that “butt-fondling” sort remained in good quantity. The generic duplicate of Scott was moving quickly in its stead, but there was plenty.
Kleenex was not hit nearly as badly as TP.
Bulk quantity packs of most other things were NOT sold out – good quantities of “cases” of things remained.
No “prepper carts” seen – mine was probably the worst, and it was “crypto-prepper”, IMO.
In contrast to normal curiosity, I felt like people were studying my cart and what I was buying more than normally, but not negatively or judgmentally. They seemed to be asking themselves if they should “stock up”.
PSYCHOLOGY. On duty and being vigilant. People are playing attention and looking for signs that it’s OK to prepare.
BIGGER IMPRESSIONS
I get the following distinct impressions, even though I have no proof of them
bigger grocery chains are working with DHS, HHS and CDC
the feds are psychologically ENCOURAGING normal, common sense stocking
the feds are psychologically DISCOURAGING panic buying
the chains are sharing data on both STOCK ITEMS and PHARMACY PRODUCTS
the feds are using the data to “make sure the spice flows”
I smell blueberry muffins somewhere, and they ain’t ours.
W
John Fink, James Coburn, and Jennifer O’Neill having a meal in a scene from the film ‘The Carey Treatment’, 1972. (Photo by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/Getty Images)
“Whoever made these blueberry muffins, tell them they taste just like Daughn’s!”
This is a thread for reporting your ACTUAL PERSONAL ground reports – what you are SEEING and HEARING about the coronavirus, and your THOUGHTS in relation to those things.
I’ll go first.
I was at the FLYOVER GROCERY STORE today.
These are the things I observed….
People are using the wipes on the cart handles without any self-consciousness.
Stock on freshly baked bread seemed lower than normal.
Easter candy is already out on display.
The number of people seemed normal.
Crowd behavior seemed normal.
Overall vitamin stock was FULL.
Vitamin C was dented but no items were empty – down to 2 or 3 bottles left on the shelf for some of the “economy size” items, so Vitamin C is definitely getting hit, but not OUT.
No other vitamins or supplements seemed affected.
Note that there are no COVID-19 patients in said city or region.
Orange juice stock looked normal.
All other stock looked normal.
Clorox Wipes have been placed on display at the end of the CANNED FOOD AISLE.
Wipes in the display were moving but not briskly enough to set off any alarms.
Canned food stocks are NORMAL.
Specials on mac-and-cheese, energy bars, tuna, and other “short term normie prepper” foods.
No grocery carts seemed to be of a “prepper” nature.
No panic behavior by cars or people.
So that’s it – pretty uneventful.
What say you?
W
John Fink and James Coburn discuss case in a scene from the film ‘The Carey Treatment’, 1972. (Photo by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/Getty Images)
