DEAR KMAG 20241016 DAILY THREAD & ISRAEL

Marina Abramovic & Lord Jacob Rothschild standing before the painting Satan Summoning his Legions (1797)

Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet.”

Heinrich Heine

Before this last decade I had a major distrust of the British Empire and the City of London. I was aware that American Churches had been effectively neutered thanks to LBJ’s 501c3 LINK, but it was not until the Trump Decade that I realized just how EVIL the Cabal is and how much we have been lied to about EVERYTHING! Therefore I try to look at everything via a ‘suspicious cat’ point of view. That is my jumping off point. I no longer TRUST anything HUMANS say without a long hard look at it. I also want to make it very clear I am NOT a biblical scholar like my Dad was. So this is very, very rough peek at this possible argument. I am more concerned with the in your face EVIL I am seeing.

In the discussion of my next to last article I was sent by Smiley: 8 Biblical Reasons to Stand with Israel Today

As a side note, I did a bit of digging:

Jack Hayford is the founding pastor”

Jack Hayford ==>  International Church of the Foursquare Gospel ==>  Aimee Semple McPherson.

McPherson was born Aimee Elizabeth Kennedy in Salford, Ontario, Canada, (1871–1947) McPherson married Robert James Semple, a Pentecostal missionary from Ireland. She was born just six years after Booth’s mysterious trip to Montreal as a precursor to Lincoln’s April 1865 assassination.

CANADA

With Confederation and the passage of the British North America Act, 1867, Canada’s Parliament was still legally under the authority of the British Parliament. By 1949, Canada had become fully sovereign in relation to Great Britain. This was due to landmark legislation such as the Statute of Westminster (1931). The Constitution Act, 1982 swept away Britain’s leftover authority…

So in my mind the first strike is the connection to the British Empire. I want to be very clear. This is NOT against the person but against the influence that may have been exerted by the Cabal. Remember those whose messages they approve get promoted to the public. Others they disapprove of they squash and even go to the effort of killing the messenger if needed. I have had 2 up close and personal experiences with the Cabal’s handy work in that regard.

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These are some of the Biblical references in the article Smiley recommended. I am using the King James version since that is the Bible I was given at Confirmation.

Deuteronomy 32:43 [Old Testament]

Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

2 Chronicles 7:20 [Old Testament]

Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?

Ezekiel 38:16 [Old Testament]

And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes

And is not the return of the Son of God a very enticing thought for Christians? Can this enticing and seductive thought be used by the Satanists to manipulate Christians into doing as they wish?

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THE ALTERNATE POSSIBILITY:

Hosea 9:3 [Old Testament]

They shall not dwell in the Lord’s land; But Ephraim shall return to Egypt, And they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.

Sometimes Ephraim is used to mean Israel.

Ephraim was the second son of Joseph and a grandson of Jacob…

The tribe of Ephraim was chastised for idolatry (Hosea 4:17) and their partnership with heathen nations (Hosea 12:1). The tribe of Ephraim was taken into captivity by the Assyrians in 722 BC when the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered. Even so, the Lord declared, “Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight? Though I often speak against him, I still remember him. Therefore my heart yearns for him; I have great compassion for him” (Jeremiah 31:20).

Notable figures from the tribe of Ephraim include Joshua (Joshua 19:50); Samuel (1 Samuel 1:1) and Jeroboam I, the first king of the divided kingdom in the north (1 Kings 12:25). After the Babylonian captivity, some of the descendants of Ephraim resettled in Jerusalem (1 Chronicles 9:3).Got Questions Org

Assyria according to Britannica:


Reform Judaism

Reform Judaism, a religious movement that has modified or abandoned many traditional Jewish beliefs, laws, and practices in an effort to adapt Judaism to the changed social, political, and cultural conditions of the modern world. [Heathen Nations? — GC]

Reform Judaism sets itself at variance with Orthodox Judaism by challenging the binding force of ritual, laws, and customs set down in the Bible and in certain books of rabbinic origin (e.g., the Talmud).

The movement began early in the 19th century, in Germany, with appeals from laymen for an updating of the Jewish liturgy and other rituals. With the liberation of Jews from their ghettos, many Jews began to question their allegiance to such traditions as restrictive dietary laws, prayers in Hebrew, and the wearing of special outfits that set them apart as Jews. Many felt that Judaism would lose Jews to other religions if steps were not taken to bring Judaism into the 19th century…

Daily public worship was abandoned; work was permitted on the Sabbath; and 👉dietary laws (kashrut) were declared obsolete.👈

“…And they shall eat unclean things in Assyria…

Was this not what the two Orthodox Rabbis were gently pointing out when they said it was Zionists, Reformed Jews and Secular Jews who set-up Israel?

AND

Revelation 2:9: [New Testament]

 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9:

Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie….

If they are NOT following the teachings of the Old Testament, if “… they shall eat unclean things in Assyria...” then how can they be the Jews of prophesy?

Also:

Isaiah 19 contains a prophecy regarding Assyria that describes the condition of the Middle East during the millennial reign of Christ. The repeated phrase in that day in Isaiah 19 is a reference to the day of the Lord, when He sets all things right. According to Isaiah’s prophecy, Assyria (modern Iraq) will join Egypt and Israel in serving the Lord (Isaiah 19:23), and there will be political unity among Egypt, Israel, and Assyria. All three nations will be blessed by God (verse 25) and be a blessing to other nations (verse 24). Jesus truly is the Prince of Peace who can bring unity to these three former enemies. Because of Jesus, the future of Assyria is bright. — Got Questions Org

Three former enemies, NOT crushed and destroyed but unified and BLESSED!

The Abraham Accords anyone?

The Guardian: Saudi leaders hail Trump visit as ‘reset of regional order

In addition to proposing a series of deals, 👉Saudi officials have also accepted a central theme of Trump’s visit of tackling radicalism.👈 Saudi Arabia had been accused by the Obama administration of proselytising an extreme Wahhabi view of Islam…

MARK 10: 13-14 & 17-19

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. 

14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven…

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself….

If You are paying for bullets, as my co-workers were, to murder others, are you not also a murderer? If you agree with YOUR tax money being used to murder babies and toddlers, rape women and commit atrocities, are you not complicit? YOUR money is paying for not only the murder but the torture of women and children.

When the Israeli soldiers talked of stuffing Palestinians into a barrel and shooting the barrel do you think they were talking about adults? Or is it a lot more likely it was babies and toddlers that filled that barrel? Should Christians pray in front of abortion clinics where NON-CHRISTIANS are having abortions, but have ZERO problem with torturing babes & toddlers some of whom were possibly CHRISTIANS?? All because they hope the Zionist invasion of Palestine is the prophesied return of Jews to the Holy Land?

I am hoping that this at least makes you THINK instead of blindly following what another human is saying based on their understanding of the Bible.

Q 916 “We are saving ISRAEL for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time.”

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Now on to the evidence of EVIL

I have already covered the Rothschilds in a previous article LINK. And I covered Kissinger’s National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200 as part of the depopulation series.

Kissinger’s Public Confession as an Agent of British Influence:

…American memories were longer: The First World War was a temporary exertion, after which we withdrew into isolationism; during the ’20s the U.S. Navy Department still maintained a “Red Plan”👉 to deal with the contingency of conflict with the British fleet.👈

It was not until the war with Hitler that the gap closed permanently….

…Bevin, the unlikely originator of this revolution in British diplomacy, shrewdly calculated that Britain was not powerful enough to influence American policy by conventional methods of pressure or balancing of risks. But by discreet advice, the wisdom of experience, and the presupposition of common aims, she could make herself indispensable, so that American leaders no longer thought of consultations with London as a special favor but as an inherent component of our own decision-making. The wartime habit of intimate, informal collaboration thus became a permanent practice…

The British were so matter-of-factly helpful that they became a participant in internal American deliberations, to a degree probably never before practiced between sovereign nations. In my period in office, the British played a seminal part in certain American bilateral negotiations with the Soviet Union—indeed, they helped draft the key document. 👉 In my White House incarnation then, I kept the British Foreign Office better informed and more closely engaged than I did the American State Department…👈

So It was not until WWII that Americans ‘forgot’ the British Empire was our long time enemy. Funny how this happened AFTER John Dewey’s Progressive education system (start 1915) had been in place for a generation along with the Banksters takeover of the Media ( start 1915) Of course it doesn’t hurt that the City of London now had a choke hold on US politicians via the US Debt and political funding. So after WWII, with their agents embedded in our government, the USA became the City of London’s source of cash and cannon fodder to toss at their endless wealth generating wars.

Henry Kissinger, the first Jewish U.S. secretary of state, stated — “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”

Remembering my late friend former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger

Sept. 18, 2012, I reported — and I quote him exactly: “In 10 years there will be no more Israel.” In 2005 he told me: “We will be going to war with Iran.”The hand that ruled the Western world is the hand that often stirred a good martini...

Seems electing Trump instead of Hillary derailed that plan. Or at least delayed it.

May 23, 2013 – Tablet Magazine

Henry Kissinger, who turns 90 this Monday, May 27, is one of the most influential Jews in American history—and one of the most controversial…

This brilliant refugee from Nazi Germany with the gravelly voice, Teutonic accent, and thick Poindexter glasses, embodied the pinnacle of a certain type of Jewish aspiration and achievement in 20th-century America, becoming a Harvard professor in 1954, Richard Nixon’s foreign-policy mastermind in 1969, and the first Jewish secretary of state in 1973, as well as the era’s most surprising sex symbol. For the past four decades, he has remained the dean of America’s foreign-policy establishment, advising presidents and foreign governments alike.

Just this month, at the Atlantic Council, Hillary Clinton wished him an early happy birthday.“Everywhere I go,” she said, “people talk to me about Henry.”….

Klaus Schwab’s Mentors Who Helped Create the World Economic Forum Are Revealed – G. Edward Griffin’s Need to Know News.

The World Economic Forum wasn’t the creation of Klaus Schwab, but was actually born out of a CIA-funded Harvard program headed by Henry Kissinger and pushed to fruition by John Kenneth Galbraith and Herman Kahn. All three men were members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Schwab is more than a technocrat and intends to fuse his physical and biological identities with future technology….

YUVAL HARARI


Yuval Harari is a professor in the Department of History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Yuval Noah Harari on Transhumanism and Eliminating Free Will: Hacking and Bioengineering Humans Using Biometric Data to Replace Evolution with Intelligent Design in Order to Re-Engineer Life

We are probably one of the last generations of Homo Sapiens because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies, and brains, and minds.”


Yuval Harari

YUVAL HARARI — A WEF GURU:  

Yuval Harari is a “guru” of the World Economic Forum — the WEF — the group of transhumanist, corporate technocrats who meet in Davos Switzerland each year to decide what direction the world should take in regard to whatever matter they choose to discuss. They believe that corporations and their selected leaders should rule the world rather than elected representatives of the people. They clearly wish to bypass sovereign, national governments, both democratic and communist. The gathering is led by the mysterious Klaus Schwab and many billionaires are invited to fly in on their private jets. Workers are not invited.

Harari is becoming influential and is listened to by many people anxious for thought leadership…. He is especially known as a promoter of “inorganic life” which seems to mean robots or the robotization of humans. That is transhumanism — the merging of humans and machines, guided by the philosophy that humans themselves are nothing but machines, some being “useful” and others “useless eaters”


Transcript from Yuval Noah Harari Speeches at Davos:

We are probably one of the last generations of Homo Sapiens because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies, and brains, and minds. Now how exactly will the future masters of the planet look like? This will be decided by the people who own the data. Now why is data so important? It’s important because we’ve reached the point when we can hack not just computers. We can hack human beings and other organisms….

I do not know about you, But I find Harari down right EVIL and Anti-God.

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Shlomo Sand: I wish to resign and cease considering myself a Jew

His past was Jewish, but today he sees Israel as one of the most racist societies in the western world. Historian Shlomo Sand explains why….Deconstructing the Foundational Myths of Israel.

The basic foundational myths (of a verifiable historical variety) are twofold: Firstly, that Jews were expelled from the Holy Land by the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and then dispersed to various geographical locations around the Mediterranean and beyond. Secondly, that the present-day Jewish citizens of the State of Israel are by and large the descendants of those early Jews… Sand points out, while the Roman Empire did brutally put down Jewish revolts in A.D. 70 and A.D. 135, the Romans were not in the business of ethnic cleansing….the Romans did not have the technological means to accomplish such a dastardly thing. So where did the Jewish diaspora come from? …The Jews living elsewhere are mainly the descendants of converted peoples. Ashkenazi Jews (Jews in Eastern Europe) are mainly descendants of Khazars whose King converted in the 8th Century. Sephardic Jews (on the Iberian Peninsula and north Africa) come from converted Berbers.

Most of those original Jews who remained in Israel under the Romans (and after them) converted — either for pragmatic or religious reasons — to Christianity or Islam. Thus, it follows — if it matters — that the closest genetic descendants of these Jews today would be the Palestinians who have lived there all along — not 20th century immigrants...

If Sands is correct the Zionists are busy killing the descendants of the biblical Jews.

Book review: Shlomo Sand’s “The Invention of the Jewish People”

….According to Sand, the destruction by the Romans of the Second Temple in 70 AD left the indigenous Jewish population of Judea and Samaria in place. “[T]he Romans never deported entire peoples. It did not pay to uproot the people of the land, the cultivators of produce, the taxpayers” (130). Furthermore, at that time there were already Jewish communities numbering up to four million persons in Persia, Egypt, Asia Minor and elsewhere (145). Palestine’s status as the unique “ancestral homeland” of the Jews collapses together with the myth of David and Solomon’s imposing kingdom.

Against the ethno-biological concept of a Jewish people — a “race” — whose linear descendants returned from exile to (re)found today’s Israel, Sand posits a religious community proliferating throughout and beyond the Mediterranean region by means of proselytism and conversion. He offers a detailed rebuttal of the conventional wisdom whereby “Judaism was never a proselytizing religion,” a view disseminated by historian Martin Goodman and others (150, note 42).

Most importantly, he concentrates attention on Khazaria, that “Strange Empire” that flourished in the Caspian region between the seventh and tenth centuries AD. By the eighth century the Khazars had adopted Hebrew as their sacred and written tongue, and “[a]t some stage between the mid-eighth and mid-ninth centuries, the[y] … adopted Jewish monotheism” (221). Sand speculates that this conversion was calculated to save them from absorption into either the Roman or the Islamic empires. The Khazars, he contends, engendered those Askhenazi Jews of central and eastern Europe who would later invent the myths of Zionism to justify their colonization of Palestine, a land to which they had no “ethnic” connection and where they remain the dominant elite….

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I was also told that Israel is a USA ally. However when an ‘ally’ repeatedly knifes you in the back, You are either their slave or an idiot but that is a subject for another article. However I will leave you with this from those WHO KNOW – Three Marines who served in the middle east.

I NEVER SAW AN ISRAELI ON THE FRONT LINES EVER! — Shane Hazel

Background on WHO Shane Hazel is who made that statement: 10:30 -20 mins It also includes the background of the other 2 marines.

At 19 min the paperwork showing Alpha was not even in DC when the FBI went after him for Jan 6th ‘wrong think.’

Rough transcript 49 – 54 minutes:

Alpha: When you see what is going on with Lebanon, with Israel…. you who has been in some of these briefs…

Shane: I hate to even say it… put that energy into the world…

You have Israel and you have the puppets here in the USA, … the entire cabinet is Israeli… They have no choice, right? They are going for broke they have to go for broke…. The underlying issue is currency, or money in general. If you understand anything about the Rothschilds being a banking conglomerate for over 3-400 years now… If you understand what usury is in terms of money. Any man who can print money out of thin air that everyone else has to work for? You basically have unlimited power… so if you need to buy a king, if you need to buy a cabinet, if you need to buy the police, if you need to buy the intelligence apparatus, if you need to buy the entire media apparatus… You are looking at a POWER that has been powerful in terms of concealing it’s self for an extremely long time.

And what is coming unglued is this fiat state. ISRAEL IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT FIAT. It was not possible with out the Rothschilds saying this is what we are going to do. There is a great video out there of this little Jewish guy who is interviewing Lord Rothschild. He has the letter from his grandfather basically stating this is what we are going to do as Zionists. Install a state down here in Jerusalem and we are going to call it Israel and we are going to move all these European Jews who are Ashkenazi who do not have ANY blood relationship [with Biblical Jews]… And now that banking system is coming apart… The proof is BRICS. They are tired of being ripped off by the dollar and not being able to keep up with the treasuries.

And then you have this other GIGANTIC FORCE in the world that people do not understand called BITCOIN. It is NOT crypto. what it is doing is taking everything in terms of liquitiy and sucking it into this finite amount…. The US IRS has not been able to post a positive in over a year. So they literally have no income anymore. They are bankrupting. They are trying to print their way out of this and the only way they know, the only thing they know is WAR.

So they are looking at this Gaza land which is rich in oil & natural gas. And now they are looking at places in Syria which is rich in oil & natural gas. The northern part of the kingdom Kuiwat… What they have going on right now is the Greater Israel Project. You can see it on the patches, Trump even alluded to it… “Yeah maybe they need some more land”…

I think what we are seeing is not only the disintegration of our empire [actually the British Empire -GC] but the Banking Empire [aka City of London – GC] This is the people that have EXPLOITED THE WORLD, AND I MEAN THIS! That have EXPLOITED THE WORLD for hundreds of years and it is coming unglued. Not only is our empire falling their empire is falling and I think that is what you are seeing over there [in the middle east – GC]

They have to create this, there is no other way for them [Israel] to stand on their own. The unfortunate thing is they are trying to drag us into fighting their biggest foe again.

If you look at Iran, it is the Holy Grail it is the Gem of the Middle East. Operation Ajax in 1949… with the CIA, it is the first Coup that we know of. We have been after that Crown Jewel for a long time. I should say the Rothschilds have been after it for a long time. I think the fact that people are waking up is what gives me hope…. The push back [against congressmen wanting war in the middle east] is especially strong in the veteran community…

Look dude [Israel] , we fought these guys, we fought all your enemies in Iraq, we fought them in Syria, we did all this kind of shit for you guys and WHERE THE F..K WERE YOU??? I NEVER SAW AN ISRAELI ON THE FRONT LINE. EVER! They were on the sideline they didn’t show up, they didn’t do ANYTHING! They were like if we get involved there will be war on us too. It was like WHAT! You were the guys that gave us the intelligence to come over here in the first place…

Alpha and Brian are nodding and making noises in the background as he says this. They then chime in with their stories. And yes THEY never saw hide nor hair of our ‘Greatest Ally’ either. Other nationalities fighting for the Rothschilds yes, but never the Israelis.

NOW do you understand WHY the Arabs hate our guts? We were SET-UP! And just like the EU, those who hate us are being imported into our country. Depopulation 2.0 maybe?

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An additional thought. If you look at the UK – USA conflict history you have:

1976 – American Revolution

War of 1812

1861 – 1865 Civil War fomented by the City of London

1913 – Federal Reserve Act.

What I missed was the City of London/Rothschild set-up for embroiling the USA in endless wars. The US Civil war ended May 26, 1865 without the Rothschild/British Empire succeeding in gaining control of the USA thanks to the Russian Tzar. Lincoln was murdered and less than a year later the first assassination of Tzar Alexander II was attempted in April of 1866. By 1881 a Jewish Socialist who some say was a Rothschild agent, finally succeeded in killing the Tzar. Russian Jews suffered a severe backlash as a result. This gave the Rothschilds a reason to buy land in Palestine on behalf of others. This was the Rothschilds first step in creating Israel a useful source of endless wars.

Dear KAG: 20241015 Open Thread

Cover Image: Early October is a painting by Frank Wilson which was uploaded on October 7th, 2008.

Happy Birthday to my dad at 84 years, and still perking along. He’s currently working on repairing a shutter that is falling apart (rotting, and really just needs to be deep sixed) which is original to the house. He would have to have a new one custom made to replace it, and being mostly Irish….

I’ve been busy. An old friend who is an Air-Streamer was in town over the weekend, and I spent hours with her among other things. This is going to be a bit light.

Three Possible Election Outcomes

Eye of the Storm 172 & Premier Video

Badlands News Brief – October 14, 2024

60 Minutes Reveals the Deep State Plan to Steal the Election!

Kamala seems to have plagiarized significant portions of her first book

I save every draft of my fiction writing just to be able to prove I wrote it.

Enough ‘spring forward/fall back’

I’m actually looking forward to falling back. Getting up in the dark is no bueno.

Has SCOTUS Sent a Smoke Signal on ‘Assault Weapon’ Ban Lawsuit?

“A Dire Spiral”: Used Electric Vehicle Prices Are Cratering Amid Slackening Consumer Demand

The only people who want or wanted electric vehicles bought them when they were new.

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

Here. Bookmark this for when Trump wins. Everyone who is a pragmatic critical thinker knows that China will devalue their currency to lower the impact of exports to the USA. Beijing controls the banks and they did this before. As a result, the dollar value increases and imports cost less. The Chinese imports then enter the USA at a lower price consistent with their cost estimate as a tariff offset. China takes in a lower price, but retains access. That’s just how it works. The importers pay the tariff with a lowered price and a higher valued dollar. Essentially statis for the time being. Then….. EU industrial products to Chinese manufacturing plants start to contract, due to China’s aggressive cost cutting initiatives. The EU gets angry about the impact to their economy. The EU then follows the same path and devalues their central bank currency; further pressuring the dollar to an upward price. Exports to the EU are now more expensive, and imports from the EU to the USA are now cheaper. Again, the EU goal is statis. Both scenarios create cheaper USA imports despite the tariffs. However, on the EU side Trump then ends the Marshal plan and executes “tariff reciprocity” against the EU. More frustration and gritted teeth by Brussels. [NOTE: Avoiding this squeeze also explains why U.K PM Starmer was all snuggly to Trump at Trump Tower a few weeks ago – he’s hedging.] Exports from the USA ultimately cost more because the dollar is stronger against EU and Asia currencies. However, a stronger dollar is an offset to BRICS leverage and allows Trump to play economic chess. Trump uses part of the tariff income to underwrite agriculture exports, but… here we have fun… if agriculture exports are impacted, domestic foodstuffs drop in price. Into this dynamic Trump turns to Mexico. We have a strong dollar, all those Western Union transfers to Mexico are more valuable. Leverage is created. The economic situation then overlays the secure border dynamic and if Mexico wants to retain trade access within the USMCA agreement, the part that no one discussed comes into play. Unbeknownst to all those except those who watched Robert Lighthizer do it, the USA has first right of refusal to any trade agreement made by Mexico or Canada. That’s correct, Trump now controls a veto on trade agreements within USMCA partnered countries. Suddenly Xi Jinping is vulnerable in Mexico if Trump nixes the EV production. Beijing is financially exposed and vulnerable. Big Panda not happy. How do we know this will happen? Good question. Answer: #1) This is what Trump did in 2017. #2) Because he said this is what he is going to do. Don’t forget to bookmark. MAGA Bitches!

We need to talk about this more, Utah, because this is exactly the kind of person who is wrecking our state. It’s not an abstraction, it’s real. This is Gary Peacock, a millionaire transplant from California who lives in a 3.5 million dollar home in Park City. The other day he accosted a driver, unlawfully entered his car, forcefully removed him (which is an assault,) and held him against his will while demanding the police come and ticket him. Among the things Peacock said during the exchange were “I’m riding a bike, I have more rights than you.” He also told the driver that he would have him put in jail. The only person who belongs in jail here in Gary Peacock. I guarantee you, if I had done this, I would still be sitting in a Summit County jail facing multiple felony charges. But not Gary Peacock. No, he’s a blue state millionaire. He’s the kind of person Spencer Cox wants to replace you with. Rich, entitled Californian who rides a bike. This is who Utah caters to now. Sure, he’s getting called a “male Karen” all over social media, but I think everybody is missing the larger point of what happened. This guy thinks he can come to Utah and do whatever he wants. And he’s not alone. There are thousands of Gary Peacocks that have moved to Utah since the pandemic. They sell their homes in California, buy a plot of land super cheap here, build a mansion, and drive home prices up. If it was just one Gary Peacock it wouldn’t be so bad. But it’s thousands of Gary Peacocks! This Gary Peacock just got caught! Think about what he said. “I’m riding a bike, I have more rights than you.” Really think about that! That’s how all these people feel! Not just about bikes, but about everything! And guess what, they do! They do because people like Spencer Cox and Deidre Henderson encourage them to come to Utah and do whatever they want, and to hell with the millions of Utahns who get hurt in the process. Gary Peacock ORDERED the cop to cite the driver. And guess what! The cop DID AS HE WAS TOLD! A law enforcement officer literally TOOK ORDERS FROM A CALIFORNIA MILLIONAIRE! THAT! HAPPENED! We need to be more outraged about this. These are the kinds of people who come to Utah and think they’re kings. This needs to be stopped. Open your eyes, Utah! Gary Peacock belongs in jail for what he did. And after he serves his lengthy sentence, he should be ejected from the state. But we also need to end the culture that brought him here. And that means voting out the politicians that incentivize him and his ilk from moving here in the first place.

That, actually, looks like tornado damage.

https://twitter.com/GardensR4Health/status/1845797309361139791

I’m voting Parkinson’s. That’s too close to the real thing that I’ve seen.

Can you feel the panic?

Hmm….

Meme Zone

My late grandmother practically did the same thing. I brought snacks for myself and my sister, and she’s like, you’re being selfish when there was plenty of chips and dip on the table. Of course, I brought my signature guacamole….

That animal probably wanted the humans to help get rid of the barnacles. They will approach humans for that purpose.

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1845444383715492279
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1845210840234066409

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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The readings today will be a mish mosh as the daily reading yields Galatians, but the Feast of St. Therese yields the others.

Galatians 5:1-6

1For freedom Christ has set us free; stand fast therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. 2Now I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3I testify again to every man who receives circumcision that he is bound to keep the whole law. 4You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5For through the Spirit, by faith, we wait for the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.

Psalms 19:8-11

7The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple; 8the precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes; 9the fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever; the ordinances of the LORD are true, and righteous altogether. 10More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb.

John 15:1-8

1“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. 2Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. 7If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. 8By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples.

So many musical settings to choose from….

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Dear KMAG: 20241014 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

anticryptic

adjective

Best Definition

  • in biology, serving to conceal or fitted for concealing one organism to the disadvantage of another: as contrasted with procryptic, serving to hide an organism for its own welfare

Inferior and Less Clear or Complete Definitions

  • camouflaged
  • having protective resemblance to environment
  • of or pertaining to camouflage used by a predator to provide stealth, as opposed to camouflage used by prey to hide
  • of or relating to resemblance to surroundings that renders an animal less conspicuous to its prey
  • serving to conceal an animal from its prey

Shown in a picture

Unencrypted by magnification, so to speak

Crazy cat ladies – stay away, with your vegan cat food!


MUSIC!

I let this nice song hang out in a tab forever. Need some room!

Ah, Celtic Woman! Always a pleasure!


THE STUFF

Care for a piece of pi?

SO – what do we have here? A new way to calculate pi? That’s still pretty complicated?

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear MAGA: 20241013 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post, and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

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In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores, and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Hope

There are two kinds of hope—worldly or temporal hope and the hope of believers. In a general sense, hope is a mental focus or feeling of anticipation regarding a future outcome, either of something we want to happen or wish to be true or don’t want to happen or be true. Secular hope is a subjective expectation; it may be solidly based or misguided, as it does not consider God’s will. We hope for things we want (I hope I get the job; I hope she’ll marry me). We hope for good outcomes (I hope my child returns home safely; I hope I don’t get sick). But worldly hope is not a virtue, as it usually contains some degree of uncertainty, doubt, and personal bias and can often be misdirected and selfishly motivated (Proverbs 10:28; 1 Timothy 6:17).

The biblical definition of hope is “the sure and confident expectation of receiving what God has promised us in the future.” The believer’s hope is not a faint or obscure wish but “an anchor for the soul, firm and secure” (Hebrews 6:19). In Scripture, hope is a virtuous quality because it contains no doubt, always trusting in God’s faithfulness and presence no matter the circumstances, whether good or bad (Psalm 71:5).

The apostle Paul includes hope among the three indispensable Christian virtues of faith, hope, and love (1 Corinthians 13:13). Love is the greatest because God values it most (1 Corinthians 13:13) and because it is eternal (1 Corinthians 13:8). Neither faith nor hope will be needed in heaven; we won’t have to trust an unseen God or anticipate His appearance because we will see Him and be with Him in the perfection of His presence forever.

Hope and faith are closely tied because both operate based on trusting God and living according to what is unseen. The author of Hebrews explains that “faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1, ESV). Regarding hope, Paul reasons, “But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have?” (Romans 8:24). Like faith, hope is built on our unwavering confidence in God’s goodness and power to do what He says He will do because of His unfailing love for us (Psalm 33:18; 146:5). Such confidence declares about our Savior, “No one who hopes in You will ever be put to shame” (Psalm 25:3). Biblical hope, like faith, takes custody here and now of God’s good promises yet to come.

Christians use hope in both senses. A pastor may say, “I hope today’s sermon blesses you.” The apostle Paul writes, “I hope to see you” (Romans 15:24) and “I hope to come to you soon” (1 Timothy 3:14) in his letters to fellow believers. But the believer’s hope is so much more than wishful thinking. The apostle Peter explains that God “has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3). We have the “hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time” (Titus 1:2). We don’t merely wish we’ll go to heaven when we die; the Bible says we can know it with all certainty: “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life” (1 John 5:13).

Paul’s hope was so secure in his eternal future that he was willing to suffer and die for it: “I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead” (Acts 23:6; see also Acts 26:6). Paul said that without faith and hope in God’s promise of resurrection life, Christians “are more to be pitied than anyone in the world” (1 Corinthians 15:19, NLT).

The biblical definition of hope includes not only the act of confident expectation but also the object of it—“Christ Jesus our hope” (1 Timothy 1:1). The psalmist writes, “For you have been my hope, Sovereign Lord, my confidence since my youth” (Psalm 71:5). Jesus Christ is the “hope of Israel” (Jeremiah 14:8; Acts 28:20) and of all nations and peoples (Isaiah 42:4; Matthew 12:21; Romans 15:12–13; 1 Timothy 4:10).

Having only temporal hope in people and things of this life is, in reality, to live in a state of hopelessness, “without hope and without God in the world.” (Ephesians 2:12). By contrast, the believer’s hope cannot be frustrated or hindered by anything in this life. We know what we have safely “stored up for [us] in heaven” (Colossians 1:5), where our treasures are kept secure (Matthew 6:19–20).
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2024·10·12 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes Reminder

After the first release, we were supposed to get more, every week.

As far as I know it hasn’t happened.

Speaker Johnson, please follow through!

A Caution

Just remember…we might replace the RINO candidates. (Or we might not. The record is mixed even though there is more MAGA than there used to be.) But that will make no difference in the long run if the party officials, basically the Rhonna McDaniels (or however that’s spelled–I suspect it’s RINO), don’t get replaced.

State party chairs, vice chairs, secretaries and so on, and the same at county levels, have huge influence on who ultimately gets nominated, and if these party wheelhorses are RINOs, they will work tirelessly to put their own pukey people on the ballot. In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our “MAGA” candidates are in fact, RINO plants, encouraged to run by the RINO party leadership when they realized that Lyn Cheney (and her ilk) were hopelessly compromised as effective candidates. The best way for them to deal with the opposition, of course, is to run it themselves.

Running good candidates is only HALF of the battle!

Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit

…we can move on to the next one.

Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.

Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.

Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.

In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.

Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend). (Note: most media quotes are for the bid…the price paid by the market makers, not the ask, which is what they will sell at. I figure the ask is more relevant to people like us who wish we could afford to buy these things. In the case of gold the difference is usually about a dollar, for the PGMs the spread is much wider.)

Last Week:

Gold $2,654.30
Silver $32.26
Platinum $999.00
Palladium $1,038.00
Rhodium $5,025.00
FRNSI* 127.402-
Gold:Silver 82.278+

This week, markets closed at 3PM Mountain Time Friday for the weekend.

Gold $2,657.70
Silver $31.60
Platinum $995.00
Palladium $1,088.00
Rhodium $5,075.00
FRNSI* 127.566+
Gold:Silver 84.104+

Gold see-sawed, getting closer to 2700, almost dipping below 2600 on Wednesday and Thursday but recovered nicely on Friday, even to the point of closing up for the week, barely. Silver, however, has definitely slipped, and you would need almost two more ounces of silver this week to buy an ounce of gold, than last week. Platinum a bit down, palladium might be starting another run.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Moon Roundup

Before 1610, there was one Moon, and it wasn’t a class of objects. Actually at one time the Moon and Sun (!) were lumped in with Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn as planets. They were, after all, all objects that moved with respect to the background stars (that includes the Sun but it takes a little bit of extra work to show this since it’s rather difficult to see the stars and Sun at the same time). And planet derives from a Greek word for wanderer.

Note by the way that Earth was not considered a planet. Planets were things up there in the sky, not down here, and certainly not as “down here” as you can get, the dirt beneath your feet.

This was back in the old “Earth is the center of everything” days, but late in the 1500s some people started suggesting that perhaps it was the Sun at the center. (This was actually a revival of an ancient Greek idea.) Now this is difficult to settle with naked eye observations, but a telescope will show you that not everything goes around the Earth. Venus and Mercury exhibit phases that show they orbit the Sun. And Jupiter, of course, has those Galilean moons.

Galileo actually considered them planets at first, because, after all, they moved against the background stars, just like Jupiter did. He didn’t realize we needed a new category of thing, with the Moon being the first known member. And it took a while; for a couple of centuries the larger moons of the outer planets were called “satellite planets” instead of “moons” or just plain “satellites.”

So if you think Pluto being demoted from planet status was a kerfuffle, imagine what was going on then, when they still couldn’t figure out which buckets even existed that they could put things into (figuratively speaking of course).

Eventually anything that orbited the Sun was a planet, including Earth, and anything that orbited a planet was a satellite or moon, including “the” Moon. We know of no cases of a moon itself having a natural satellite of any significant size.

And yes, “satellite” used to be synonymous with “moon,” but then we started putting things in orbit, and we started talking about natural and artificial satellites. Some people still do so, but most people use “moon” (with a lower case M) for the natural case and just plain “satellite” for the artificial case.

[And yes, we’ve no idea how to classify Stacy Abram’s hindquarters. It’s a moon…sort of…and is of similar size to the major moons, but it’s not a heavenly body by any stretch of the imagination.]

Since those days, of course, we’ve found objects out there of all kinds of different sizes orbiting both planets and the Sun, so we had to sit down and reassess definitions again and Pluto got the boot from the “planet” clique. (And, IMHO, rightly so; the other alternative would have been to promote about half a dozen Kuiper belt objects.) There’s no minimum size, as yet, for moons, so technically any planet with a ring has countless moons: all the constituent rocks that make up the ring.

Anyhow, we’re not even halfway through the moons that are in our solar system. But I thought I’d do a quick roundup, to set up the Big Picture. Let’s start out with a picture from Wikipedia showing planets and large (or famous) moons, all to scale by size. Notably, Mercury and Mars look roughly the size of some of the bigger moons, and Pluto is outclassed by at least seven moons.

Let’s consider them in order of size. If you ignore the planets and Pluto, there seem to be seven “big ones,” and a bunch of medium sized ones.

The big ones are The Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto (all orbiting Jupiter), Titan (Saturn), and Triton (Neptune). They are all 2500 km across or larger. There seems to be a big gap between Triton and any of the moons smaller than it, and when you look at masses, that is confirmed. Triton, the smallest of these seven, is more massive than all of the other moons put together. So you could actually make a list with eight entries, the eighth being “everything else that’s a moon, put together” and that would be the last item on the list.

That makes it seem like a nice, natural dividing line between “large” and “medium.”

The large moons verge on being planet sized, with Ganymede more voluminous than Mercury (though made of much lighter stuff). So much so that at least some astronomers call these seven the “satellite planets.” (I.e., things that would be planets, if only they weren’t orbiting a planet!) [As an aside I suspect we’ll be looking, again, at reclassifying things soon. And I would not be entirely unsympathetic.]

Now just eyeballing that diagram again, there are nine moons in the “medium” bracket (with S for Saturn, U for Uranus, and P for Pluto): Titania (U), Oberon (U), Rhea (S), Iapetus (S), Charon (P), Ariel (U), Umbriel (U), Dione (S), and Tethys (S). And again, it turns out that Tethys, the smallest of the nine, is bigger than all of the remaining “small” moons, put together. So, another natural dividing line, between medium and small. These medium moons are all 1000-2500 kilometers in diameter.

Up to here, moons seem to be named after mythical figures, however for some reason the moons of Uranus got named after Shakespearean characters.

So that’s sixteen medium and large size moons. Everything else is “small.”

But there’s another criterion we could use…and that’s “hydrostatic equilibrium” which when you dumb it down means “is it spherical”?

If you don’t dumb it down, there are nuances. For instance, if a moon is orbiting fairly close to a planet when it’s still largely molten, it’s going to take on an oblate shape, first because it’s rotating once per orbit, and second because the planet’s going to tend to make it egg shaped (tidal forces). If it then solidifies and its orbit gets larger, it’s technically not quite in hydrostatic equilibrium any more; because if it were liquid it would flow into a slightly different shape. Our own moon is actually an example. But in general, for classification purposes, this is a nuance that is ignored; the sucker is round or it isn’t.

[Edited to add:] A moon in hydrostatic equilibrium is considered to be a “major moon,” no matter how small it might be.

[Edited:] All of the large and medium moons are major moons. But as happens, three (maybe four) of the biggest “small” moons, those below 1000km across but greater than 250 km across, are round too and also qualify as major moons. There are two moons in the 500-1000 km range, and seven in the 250-500 km range. I’m going to call the 250-1000 km range the “medium small” range.

[Edited:] In the 500-1000 km range, we have Enceladus (S) barely making it at 504 km, and definitely a major moon. There is also Dysnomia, a satellite of the dwarf planet Eris, which is the “maybe” case. It’s 615 km across, apparently, but it’s very dark and we cannot get a read on its shape though its density appears to be low enough that we don’t expect its gravity will have crushed it into a sphere.

[Edited:] in the 250-500 km range we have Mimas (S), and Miranda (U), 400 and 470 km in diameter respectively, both major moons. And we also have five objects that are not major moons, and they are Hyperion (S), Proteus (N), Nereid (N), Vanth (satellite of dwarf planet Orcus) and Hi’iaka (satellite of dwarf planet Haumea). Proteus is actually bigger than Mimas, so there’s clearly not a hard line, above which a moon will be round (and therefore major). As I alluded to above, a low density can make a moon less massive, which can be enough that it does not “go round.”

[Edited:] So there’s your roundup. Expect to see talk of Large, Medium and Medium-small moons, as well as major moons and minor moons; “major” encompassing large and medium moons as well as three of the scores of small moons.

Saturn

History

Saturn, to the ancients, was a star-like object that took 29.5 years to make one trip around the ecliptic. Dimmer and slower than Jupiter, which was associated with the king of the gods, it got associated with the prior generation.

You see, in Greek and Roman mythology the Olympian gods were the third generation. The first was Uranus (Οὐρανός), the sky, and Gaia, the Earth. He was both her son and her husband. Their children were the titans, twelve of them: Oceanus, Coeus, Crius, Hyperion, Iapetus, Theia, Rhea, Themis, Mnemosyne, Phoebe, Tethys, and Cronus. (You will see some of those names again…in fact if you read the previous section, you already have.) Cronus (or Kronos) was the father of Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Hades, Hestia, Demeter and Chiron. These are all the Greek names. The one called Kronos was known to the Romans as Saturn.

In 1610 Galileo turned that telescope towards Saturn, and saw…well, a couple of lumps one on each side of Saturn that each looked like it might be a moon a third the size of Saturn. (Let’s face it, it wasn’t a very good telescope, even if it was one of the best in the world at the time.)

A couple of years later, he looked again, and the moons were gone. He predicted that they would be back later, and indeed they showed up. And got bigger to the point where Saturn seemed oval-shaped. Christiaan Huygens finally saw this as rings in 1655, publishing his results in 1659. Huygens spotted one moon, which he named Titan. Shortly thereafter (1675) Giovanni Domenico Cassini discovered a gap in the rings, and also four more moons, Iapetus, Rhea, Tethys and Dione–all named after titans. (Dione is either another daughter of Uranus and Gaia, or the daughter of Oceanus and Tethys, depending on whose rendering of the mythology you’re reading.) In 1789 William Herschel (discoverer of Uranus) discovered two more moons, Mimas and Enceladus–these are two of the three “small” moons in our solar system that are nevertheless big enough to be round, from the previous section. Hyperion was discovered in 1848. It’s comparable to Mimas and Enceladus, but not round…far from it, as we’ll see.

Saturn ends up having seven major moons, one large, the other six medium. Add in Hyperion, and that’s eight. When I was a kid, the count was ten (with most books still saying nine). The missing two were Phoebe (1898) and..well..number ten, first spotted in 1966, was a bit confusing. It was first spotted on December 15, 1966. But then another astronomer spotted it again…but in a different place in the same orbit…on December 18, 1966. Here was a moon that appeared to be jumping around in its orbit, but it was there (well, maybe not) and it was number 10. Finally in 1978, a couple of astronomers realized what was really going on. There were two moons sharing the same orbit, Janus and Epimetheus, a situation which had been assumed to be unstable up until then. So elementary school Steve didn’t realize Saturn’s tenth moon was really the tenth and eleventh moons. Today’s count is (drumroll) one hundred and forty six, with the most recent discovery being in 2020. But I am going to save detailed discussion of the moons until next time.

Pioneer 11 flew by in 1979. Voyager 1 zipped by in 1980, and Voyager 2 followed it in 1981. What a nice little barrage, especially since the cameras on the Voyagers were so much better. After that nothing until 2004, when Cassini went into orbit around Saturn. It not only stayed there for 13 years (until we deliberately deorbited it into Saturn’s atmosphere, since it was about to die anyway), it even put a lander on Titan! The ONLY landing ever made beyond the asteroid belt.

The Planet Proper

Saturn itself orbits at an average distance of 1,434 million kilometers, nearly a billion and a half. That’s 9.58 AUs. It has an axial tilt of about 28 degrees, a bit more than Earth’s 23 degrees, so Saturn definitely has seasons, unlike Jupiter (whose axial tilt is about 2 degrees). This will turn out to be important when we finally quit fiddling around and talk about the rings.

Saturn has a magnetosphere, like Jupiter, Ganymede, and Earth. Unlike Jupiter and Earth, the Saturn “magnet” is aligned with the axis of rotation pretty well. This magnetosphere isn’t as strong as Jupiter’s, but still significant.

Measured across the equator, Saturn is as wide as 9 earths. Measured through the poles, on the other hand, it’s only 8 earths tall. That’s because it is spinning very rapidly, once in about 10 1/2 hours, and it’s fluid clear down to a solid core that’s about 16,000 km across. We were able to learn a LOT about Saturn’s interior just from monitoring its gravity’s effect on both the Cassini probe and the rings.

Saturn has a banded atmosphere much like Jupiter’s though not nearly as colorful. It doesn’t have a long-standing storm like the Great Red Spot, but from time to time white spots will appear. Great white spots tend to appear once every Saturnian year, during its northern hemisphere summer, the last one in 1990. Cassini got to see one form, stretch out along its band, and eventually dissipate, after the head of the thing caught up and passed its tail. And then in 2010, ten years early, we got another white spot.

Voyager 1 spotted something very peculiar around Saturn’s north pole. For some reason we don’t fully understand, the clouds there form a hexagon, which appears to rotate with the planet, in time with Saturn’s radio emissions.

The south pole, by contrast, shows something like a hurricane eyewall. (No word yet on whether this is where all the FEMA hurricane money goes.)

OK, with that out of the way…

The Rings

They have been called “Gravity’s Masterpiece.”

And that is an understatement.

Gravity created them, gravity maintains their structure, and gravity is slowly destroying them.

Galileo noticed change when looking at Saturn, but could not resolve the rings; his telescope was simply too small. That change is caused by Saturn’s seasons. When it’s northern hemisphere summer, the north surface of the rings is tilted toward the Sun, at autumn they are edge on, at northern winter, the south surface is tipped toward the Sun, and finally at northern spring, they are edge on again. And since, comparatively speaking, we’re quite close to the Sun, we see the same thing. Here is a twenty nine year time lapse:

The rings are thin. At the time the earth crosses through the plane of the rings, we can’t see anything, not even a thin line. It has been likened to looking at a sheet of paper edge on, but relatively speaking the sheet of paper is much too thick! The next “disapperance” is next year, right now it looks something like this:

The rings are skinny but definitely there.

The rings are themselves subdivided into seven sections, imaginitively named A, B, C, D, E, F, and G.

What we see through our telescopes are basically A, B, and C. This is typically what you’ll see…only it’s much smaller in the telescope field of view than this:

This picture (from Cassini) shows the rings from well above the plane, with Saturn itself casting a shadow on them.

Going form the outside in, there’s a medium-bright ring (A), a wide gap–the one noted by Cassini, a brighter ring (B), and a much fainter ring (C). There are other, smaller gaps as well. Where do they come from? The Cassini gap happens to be at that spot where, if something were orbiting there, it’d do so in a 2:1 resonance with Mimas. That causes enough instability to force objects into smaller or larger orbits. In other cases, small moons within the rings help clear things out.

That’s just the beginning of the crazy stuff that happens in the rings. Ripples one to two kilometers high raised by embedded moons, spokes on the B ring we can’t figure out (yet)…some scientists are spending their entire careers on this stuff!

To see the D through G rings readily, we must look at Saturn backlit…something we couldn’t do until we sent spacecraft there.

By the way, if you right click and open in new tab, between the two “gray” fuzzy rings (a narrow one and a broad one) at about 4 oclock…that dot there is Earth.

The rings appear to be made of chunks of ice, averaging about a foot across. And they’re pretty bright; they haven’t been covered with dark space dust. That leads most scientists to think that they aren’t that old…150 million years at the most. It’s possible that they weren’t there when the non-avian dinosaurs were killed 66 million years ago.

The most common thought is that a medium-sized moon got too close to Saturn somehow, perhaps thanks to perturbations from the other moons, and tidal forces (yes tidal forces again) did the rest.

Picture this: a spherical body maybe 200 kilometers across in orbit. It will orbit as if the entire mass of the moon were concentrated at the center. But a rock at the far side of the moon is 100 kilometers further away, and one at the near side is 100 kilometers closer. An object 100 km further out, in order to stay in orbit, wants to move slower than this moon is orbiting, yet that rock is being forced to move faster than that, since it’s stuck to the moon. If the moon were to suddenly disappear and leave the rock behind, it would actually go into a new, elliptical orbit, with the closest part where the rock was, sitting on the moon, and the furthest part, oh, some distance away. And so, this is what the rock “wants” to do. It actually feels a slight tug pulling at it, off the surface of the moon. If the moon is close enough to the planet, and its gravity weak enough, the rock will actually feel no net attraction to the moon, and drift off. As will its neighboring rocks. And similar things happen on the side of the moon closest to the planet, they want to go into smaller orbits and feel a net tug toward the planet and off the moon.

That’s how loose rocks might peel off, but moons are generally solid, aren’t they? Sure. But, if you think about that orbit where things on the far side will just barely want to drift away, but put the moon closer, then something deep underground at the far side would (if it weren’t buried) drift away. Now bury it again. Everything above it wants to drift away too. Those miles of stuff are effectively “hanging” wanting to fall off the moon. Enough of that, and even a solid rock will fracture. Rocks don’t do too well under tension, a fact which has had a profound effect on architecture here on Earth.

So, basically, we think a mostly-icy moon got too close and shattered. And the tidal forces have kept it from reforming. However some suggest that instead, two moons collided and this is the debris from the collision.

The rings are dying, though. The ice is slowly sublimating with help from cosmic rays, and that ice ends up in Saturn’s magnetic field and eventually forms auroras in its atmosphere. There are also other forces causing ring material to rain down onto Saturn’s equator (this was discovered by the Cassini spacecraft). The rings have 10-100 million years to live at the rate they are losing mass.

I’ll close this with another picture:

..or two, just to see the aurora…

..or three (you can see the hexagon in this one).

Obviously I could go on. But some of the coolest stuff is on the moons. So…until next time!

Health Friday 10.11.2024: About The Bird Flu Summit This Month in Virginia

The above blurred image of persons attending a conference is courtesy of Google Images and Vecteezy.

Today’s Health Friday offering is one a of a series devoted to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. The discussion is not limited to what is presented in today’s post: it is an Open Thread.

There are Important Wolf Moon Notifications; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and other items that readers should be familiar with. They are all linked here.

This post will be diving into some “interesting” rabbit-holes. Stay with Yours Truly — I believe they are all interconnected. There is a General Summary at the end of the post.

The trail, for today’s purposes, begins with the following links: www.theburningplatform.com/2024/10/04/exclusive-new-york-city-health-officials-to-hold-bird-flu-tabletop-exercise/, 4 October 2024, by Michael Nevradakis, Ph.D.; https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/nyc-health-officials-bird-flu-summit-tabletop-simulated-plan/, 3 October 2024, by the same author (goes into more detail); and, www.theqtree.com/2024/08/02/the-hhs-gave-the-go-ahead-to-use-an-h5n1vaccine-but-the-ama-just-issued-new-cpt-codes-for-an-h5n8-vaccine/, 8 August 2024, by Yours Truly.

Note: the scientific paper referred to by Dr. Nevradakis is here: www.preprints.org/manuscript/202406.0060/v1, “Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl”, Nicolas Hulscher, John Leake, Peter McCullough, 3 June 2024; click on “Download PDF” to read or save the paper. The authors suspect Gain-of-Function to be in play. Below is the Abstract of the paper:

Since this paper is a preprint; and, that it may be a target for Retraction; Withdrawal; or, Reissue with “new conclusions” that would reflect pressure on the paper’s authors and/or the publisher, Yours Truly suggests that interested readers download or make a hard copy of the preprint version.

The International Bird Flu Summit was held in Fairfax, Virginia, on 2 – 4 October 2024. This is the website for the “summit”: https://birdflusummit.com/. Here is the Brochure for the “summit”: https://birdflusummit.com/Bird Flu Summit Brochure.pdf. Reading through these “summit” websites, one gets the distinct impression of a general tone that “a Bird Flu pandemic” is about to occur; and, that various “interventions”, “command and control” methods, and “monitoring and dismantling” of “misinformation” detected on social media platforms, etc., will be “necessary” as part of a “coordinated response.”

Taking a look at the Brochure for the “Bird Flu Summit”, here is a portion of one of the “overview” pages:

Seems innocuous enough. However, moving on in the Brochure, one finds this:

And, further along in the Brochure, there is this:

Military involvement? “Inter-agency Communication and Resource Allocation”? What is “Seamless Response”?

John Leake, who works with Dr. Peter McCullough, attended this “summit.” Here is his take: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/at-the-bird-flu-summit, 2 October 2024. Yours Truly agrees with his impression that the speakers at the “summit” were “middle-of-the-road, rather than barn-burning experts” (my phrase.) One also agrees with the impression that the “summit” was all about “a Bird Flu pandemic being just around the corner.” However, this is NOT to minimize the potential for something like a “bird flu epidemic / pandemic” occurring — either from a “natural cause”: or, by another “lab leak.” Here is another view on the situation: www.theburningplatform.com/2024/09/22/could-bird-flu-be-the-october-surprise/, by Clayton J. Baker, MD.

FLASH! — The McCullough Foundation just got a demand from one of the speakers at the “Bird Flu Summit”, Syra Madad, PhD, to delete a video that John Leake and Nicolas Hulscher (another McCullough Foundation member) made of a Question-and-Answer session between Mr. Leake and herself at the “summit.” Dr. Madad is the coordinator of the upcoming New York City “Bird Flu Response Conference.” Please see here: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/mccullough-foundation-receives-bird, “McCullough Foundation Receives Bird Flu Summit Censorship Demand”, 9 October 2024. Below is a portion of the article:

The transcript of the video follows in the article (the video was deleted.) Below is a portion of the transcript, followed by an assessment by Mr. Leake:

Turning to the entity that “presented” the event (Ginkgo Biosecurity), and the entity that “produced” the event (SyllabusX): this is where the “rabbit holes” emerge; and, something that Yours Truly will call the Big Pharma-Government-Medical Complex (BPGMCTM) comes into the situation. Yours Truly defines BPGMC as an “interwoven cooperation” among Big Pharma, Federal government agencies regarding development / funding / support (including the Department of Defense), institutional investors, private investors, and “Establishment Medicine” (CDC, FDA, AMA, etc.)

First, the “producer” of the “Bird Flu Summit”, SyllabusX. The company’s address and phone number: 1900 Campus Commons Dr., Suite 100, Reston, VA 20191; phone number: 703.466.0011. The company was founded in 2017. SyllabusX has its “fingers in many pies” regarding producing conferences and other events on student safety and security, on technology for educators, on health and biosecurity, and more (https://syllabusx.com/home-2; and, https://syllabusx.com/about-us.) (Note: it is not easy to find information online about this company, especially as regards financials. A couple of sources that Yours Truly found: https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/520513-39#overview; and, www.zoominfo.com/c/syllabusx-inc/480230653.) It appears that SyllabusX is a “privately-held company.”

The Chief Research Officer of SyllabusX is Ahmed Al Faraj (www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-al-faraj; Note: this link may not work, unless the reader first joins LinkedIn.) And here’s where the issue gets, IMO, interesting. It appears that Mr. Faraj graduated with a B.S. in Economics from the University of Kansas School of Business in 2006. His languages are listed as, “Native or bilingual proficiency” in Arabic.

Before starting SyllabusX, Mr. Faraj previously worked for a company called New-Fields Exhibitions, headquartered in Dubai (https://inf.ae/.) While at New-Fields Exhibitions, Mr. Faraj held positions as Program Manager, Education & Public Health Group; and. as Program Manager, Defense Business Group. Below are two screenshots from the type of work he performed while at New-Fields Exhibitions:

Mr. Faraj also previously worked for a company called AdvanFort. He was the Chief Operating Officer of this company. AdvanFort is owned by a person called Samir Farajallah. His son, the then-Chief Operating Officer, was called Ahmed Farahjallah. AdvanFort is “a US private maritime security company”, per Wikipedia. The company was founded in 2007, and its headquarters office is in Herndon, VA (www.advanfort.com/.) A vessel owned by AdvanFort was involved in an international maritime incident in 2014. One of the stories that covers this incident is here: www,bbc.com/news/uk-england-34095843, 7 September 2015, “AdvanFort accused of abandoning British men facing India trial.” As a result of this incident, AdvanFort withdrew from membership in SAMI (the Security Association for the Maritime Industry): https://gcaptain.com/sami-responds-accusations-from-advanfort/, 2 April 2014. (Interested readers may want to compare the photo of Ahmed Faraj on the SyllabusX LinkedIn site, to the photo of Samir Farajallah and Ahmed Farajallah that is in the BBC article linked above. In one’s opinion, the “Ahmed” in these photos is the same person, with a perhaps 10-year gap between the photos. One has no objection to people wishing to change their names — this is simply an interesting item.)

Second, the “presenter” of the “Bird Flu Summit” event, Ginkgo Biosecurity (Ginkgo Bioworks www.ginkgobioworks.com/.) The company’s address and phone number: 27 Drydock Ave., 8th Floor, Boston MA 02210; phone number: 877-HACK-DNA. The company works in “cell programming and biosecurity.” Ginkgo Biosecurity was founded in 2008 by students and scientists at MIT. Two of the founders are Tom Knight (known as the “godfather” of “DNA hacking” and of “synthetic biology” (www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ginkgo-bioworks-to-become-a-public-company-and-expand-its-leading-platform-for-cell-programming-301288325.html, 11 May 2021; and, Austin Che https://startupexchange.mit.edu/watch/dinkgo-bioworks, 17 July 2017. Mr. Che is also a mentor for Creative Destruction Lab in Toronto, Canada (https://creativedestructionlab.com/mentors/austin-che/.) Below is a screenshot from the Ginkgo BioWorks website:

It appears that Ginkgo BioWorks has quite a bit of funding. Below are screenshots from https://tracxn.com/:

And, some institutional funders:

The United States government is also funding the biosecurity arm of Ginkgo BioWorks: www.dfc.gov/media/press-releases/dfc-approves-11-billion-loan-ginkgo-bioworks-expand-its-commercial-biosecurity, “DFC Approves $1.1 Billion Loan to Ginkgo BioWorks to Expand its Commercial Biosecurity Business to Combat COVID-19 on a Global Scale”, 25 November 2020. DFC is the U.S. International Finance Development Corporation. Below is a screenshot from the article:

For comparison, here is a list of some raw materials used in nucleic acid-based vaccines (mRNA-based vaccines), from www.promega.com/custom-solutions/custom-manufacturing/mrna-manufacturing/:

It would appear that Ginkgo BioWorks was involved in the “rapid deployment” of those PCR tests and antigen tests for COVID-19 at the start of the pandemic; and, also in the production of “two key raw materials for nucleic acid-based vaccines” (the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines”.) Below is a blog post from April 2020 by Jason Kelly, another Ginkgo BioWorks co-founder, regarding the company’s partnership with Moderna in the production of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, mRNA-1273, along with other of that company’s mRNA “vaccines”:

Yours Truly has not, to date, found information as to the exact “raw materials” that Mr. Kelly is referring to.

Recall that the NIH/NIAID and Moderna co-developed mRNA-1273, co-own the patents of this modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, and share in the “royalty payments” for the sales and administration of this “vaccine” (and its “descendant clone” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.”)

Ginkgo BioWorks also “has its fingers in many pies”, including the bio-engineering of elements for gene therapy: www.ginkgobioworks.com/offerings/gene-therapy-services/. One such “service” is the bio-engineering of bacteria for treatment of diseases, such as cancer: www.ginkgobioworks.com/2023/01/09/engineering-bacteria-for-cancer-patient-treatment-with-prokarium/ (Prokarium is another “partner” with Ginkgo BioWorks.) The bacteria to be bio-engineered is a type of Salmonella bacteria, which will be used for “delivery of RNA payloads to treat cancer patients.” (Salmonella is “the most common form of food poisoning the in the U.S.”, according to the Cleveland Clinic. This brings up two questions: One, “Why is a bacteria related to food poisoning going to be used to treat cancer patients?”; and, Two, “How is this Salmonella bacteria going to be bio-engineered — is it going to be “sanitized” to be a beneficial element?”)

In Yours Truly’s opinion, Ginkgo BioWorks is a company to keep “on the radar.” It is acquiring other “partner companies” at a rapid rate. It is expanding its “services” into the gene-therapy sector. It is a “partner” with Moderna (and, therefore, by extension the NIH / NIAID.) In general, one has no objection to a company wishing to increase its profit margin and/or the number of its partner companies; at issue here are the following factors: the bio-engineering of DNA; the use of “automated tools” for engineering / manufacturing “raw materials” for gene-therapy treatments and/or “vaccines”; and the tie-in with the federal government.

General Summary: One: The International Bird Flu Summit was held in Fairfax, Virginia, earlier this month. The general tone of the “summit” was that a “bird flu epidemic / pandemic outbreak” is likely to occur, and soon. Two: The “summit” covered many topics related to epidemic / pandemic response, “command and control” methods, and how “seamlessly” federal, state and local governments and the military can “work together” in the response. Three: the “producer” of the “summit” was SyllabusX, a company that manages events ranging from student security to biosecurity to health education. SyllabusX is based in Virginia. Its Chief Research Officer is Ahmed Al-Faraj, who had previously (apparently) worked for his father’s company, AdvanFort, and (actually) for several other companies. Four: The “presenter” of the “summit” was Ginkgo Biosecurity (Ginkgo BioWorks), a company that offers “services” ranging from commercial biosecurity to bio-engineering to gene therapy research. This company, based in Massachusetts, has “deep funding” from many sources, including from the U.S. government. It has multiple “partners” in R&D, including Moderna. Ginko BioWorks was founded by students and scientists from MIT, including Tom Knight, the “godfather” of “DNA hacking” and of “synthetic biology.” Five: It appears that Ginkgo BioWorks, and, possibly, SyllabusX, are part of what may be called the Big Pharma-Government-Medical Complex (BPGMCTM), the “reach” of which runs far and wide.

Yours Truly will again emphasize the importance of having, and maintaining, the highest degree of health possible of the body’s natural immune system.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20241010

Cover image: Blackwater Falls State Park, West Virginia

So, one August, my parents took off in the van by themselves. Where are you going, I asked. They responded, We don’t know, but we’ll call when we get there. They called from Blackwater Falls, West Virginia.

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Utah State 4th women’s volleyball team to cancel vs. SJSU

TWEETS!

“A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe. “Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast.” “No,” says the preacher. “I have faith in the Lord. He will save me.” Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat. “Come on, Preacher. We need to get you out of here. The levee’s gonna break any minute.” Once again, the preacher is unmoved. “I shall remain. The Lord will see me through.” After a while the levee breaks, and the flood rushes over the church until only the steeple remains above water. The preacher is up there, clinging to the cross, when a helicopter descends out of the clouds, and a state trooper calls down to him through a megaphone. “Grab the ladder, Preacher. This is your last chance.” Once again, the preacher insists the Lord will deliver him. And, predictably, he drowns. A pious man, the preacher goes to heaven. After a while he gets an interview with God, and he asks the Almighty, “Lord, I had unwavering faith in you. Why didn’t you deliver me from that flood?” God shakes his head. “What did you want from me? I sent you two boats and a helicopter.””

At this point, it’s anyone’s guess until we see the gadgets actually doing the dirty work.

Anyone close to the north west have sauce on this?

Dry ice, apparently.

Really, is there sauce on this?

Best marketing campaign ever before a woman was in charge. Too bad I hear the beer is crap.

https://twitter.com/StopHatingMe88/status/1844074373923098987

My source in the chicken industry wondered the same thing.

MEMES and FUN STUFF

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1843715486246416838

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Luke 11:5-13

5And he said to them, “Which of you who has a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, `Friend, lend me three loaves; 6for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7and he will answer from within, `Do not bother me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot get up and give you anything’? 8I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him whatever he needs. 9And I tell you, Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; 12or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

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I have a leftist, Jesuit educated friend….

WEEKEND STARTER

Black Russian

Ingredients

  • 2 ounces vodka
  • 1 ounce Kahlúa

Steps

  1. Add vodka and Kahlúa into a mixing glass with ice and stir until well-chilled.
  2. Strain into a rocks glass over fresh ice.

Have a good one y’all.

Dear KAG: 20241009 Open Thread — FEMA & Anti-Hoarding Laws

I am still dealing with farm issues but wanted to get out this quick article.

First, all the rain this last month or so has meant my hay guy has no hay to sell. So I went to buy Abrussi Rye for winter grazing only to find the place I buy from could not get any help so no 50 lb bags for sale. We ended up with a TON (2000 lbs) in a large industrial sized bag. 😱 Thank goodness for great neighbors. My dually and that bag of seed is in a neighbor’s barn at night for the last week.

I mention this because of the larger ramifications. You need dry weather to cure and bale hay and this fall so far has been very wet. Now a large swath of hay producers has been wiped out for this season so expect meat prices to go down and then surge as farmers sell off the animals they can not feed this winter.

Then there is the mess in Western North Carolina and other states. FEMA is being the usual pain in the rump from what I understand. I had seen a comment saying that FEMA was confiscating food and water from the victims. Unfortunately this is NOT at all unlikely.

A washed out road on Sept. 27, 2024, in Boone, North Carolina.

From my old notes. 🤓


It is very very simple a bureaucrat’s main goal in life is covering his butt. The more bureaucrats and the more area covered the worse the muck-up. During Katrina, the goal of FEMA was not to rescue people, but to control them. Their directive was to relocate families and businesses, confiscate property, commandeer goods, direct labor and services, and establish martial law. This is what they did. The goal was never to carry out an effective rescue operation it was to protect the government from chaos and establish martial law. THAT is what governments (and bureaucracies) always do, they protect themselves first last and always.

As can be seen the help was there during Katrina but FEMA PREVENTED the help and helpers from reaching those in need because their priority was CONTROL not RESCUE.

KATRINA EXAMPLES:

I am listing these because I am worried the MSM will ‘neglect’ to report stories like these given it is a Democrat government and an election year.

BERLIN — “A German military plane carrying 15 tons of military rations for survivors of Hurricane Katrina was sent back by U.S. authorities, officials said Saturday…” LINK

Doctor Says FEMA Ordered Him To Stop Treating Hurricane Victims

In the midst of administering chest compressions to a dying woman several days after Hurricane Katrina struck, Dr. Mark N. Perlmutter was ordered to stop by a federal official because he wasn’t registered with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. 

“I begged him to let me continue,” said Perlmutter, who left his home and practice as an orthopedic surgeon in Pennsylvania to come to Louisiana and volunteer to care for hurricane victims. “People were dying, and I was the only doctor on the tarmac (at the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport) where scores of nonresponsive patients lay on stretchers. Two patients died in front of me. 

“I showed him (the U.S. Coast Guard official in charge) my medical credentials. I had tried to get through to FEMA for 12 hours the day before and finally gave up. I asked him to let me stay until I was replaced by another doctor, but he refused. He said he was afraid of being sued. I informed him about the Good Samaritan laws and asked him if he was willing to let people die so the government wouldn’t be sued, but he would not back down. I had to leave.” 

FEMA issued a formal response to Perlmutter’s story, acknowledging that the agency does not use voluntary physicians….


“…crews for three U.S. Customs Blackhawk helicopters stationed at Crestview Airport in Florida are “livid” because they have not been directed to provide full-time support for the ongoing hurricane-relief…Conrad says instead of helping people left desperate in the wake of Katrina’s wrath, the Blackhawk’s actually were slated to transport a CNN news crew to take video shots of those people.” LINK

Emergency crews turned back by FEMA: They lacked “the required paperwork”

Homeland Security won’t let Red Cross deliver food

Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded


FEMA orders Firefighters assembled from all over the USA to hand out propaganda instead of deploying them as emergency workers.

Firefighters endure a day of FEMA training, which included a course on sexual harassment. Some firefighters say their skills are being wasted. (Leah Hogsten/The Salt Lake Tribune)


And the list goes on and on.

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Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any
undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General
Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA’s Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA’s role as a “new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis.” National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities. 1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy. Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency. International Emergency Economic Powers Act enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979. ^^They also list FEMA Camp locations too. LINK

May 06, 2009 — Census GPS-tagging your home’s front door Coordinates being taken for every residence in nation

“According to an online Yahoo program, the Global Position System coordinates for the White House, probably one of the best-known publicly owned buildings in the world, are 38.898590 Latitude and -77.035971 Longitude. And since you know that, it’s no big deal for the White House to know the coordinates for your front door, is it?


Some people think it is, and are upset over an army of some 140,000 workers hired in part with a $700 million taxpayer-funded contract to collect GPS readings for every front door in the nation.

The data collection, presented as preparation for the 2010 Census, is pinpointing with computer accuracy the locations and has raised considerable concern from privacy advocates who have questioned why the information is needed. The privacy advocates also are more than a little worried over what could be done with that information.


Enhancing the concerns is the Obama administration’s recent decision to put White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel in an oversight role over the census, which will be used to determine a reapportionment of congressional seats and could be used to solidify a single political party’s control over the nation, its budget, military and future…

HOW would they know who is hoarding?

Well there are your credit card records and those handy ‘Rewards Cards’ that let you buy featured produces at a discounted price. Many grocery stores have them.

That they are doing this type of snooping is established.

Hospitals to begin monitoring your credit card purchases to flag ‘unhealthy’ habits

What you buy at the grocery store, where you live, and even your membership status at the local gym are all subject to a new data collection scheme by the American medical system. Reports indicate that hospitals and doctors’ offices all across the country are now collecting this and other personal information in order to target individuals deemed to have “unhealthy” lifestyle habits that put them at high risk of disease.

Bloomberg reports that hospital systems in both North and South Carolina as well as Pennsylvania have already begun tracking people’s food-purchasing habits by spying on them through public records and credit card transactions. Carolinas HealthCare System (CHS), which operates some 900 care centers throughout the Carolinas, has teamed up with a data-mining company to compile and track this information for the later purpose of calling “high-risk” folks and urging them to make a change.

“What we are looking to find are people before they end up in trouble,” stated Michael Dulin, chief clinical officer for analytics and outcomes at CHS, to Bloomberg. “The idea is to use big data and predictive models to think about population health and drill down to the individual levels to find someone running into trouble that we can reach out to and try to help out.”


I copied this comment back around 2008 during the ‘Farm Wars’ It may have been from a Yahoo group or from NoNais, I am not sure but it is a very telling comment.

I have been involved in a discussion about a USDA employee who visited an individual’s home in the Pacific NW and began asking a lot of questions about the person’s food storage practices & their raising of small livestock (chickens).…


I agree completely with the “do it quietly” mind set…. But in this case the Dept. of Ag was visiting all the homes in a neigborhood.

A person from the US Dept of Agriculture came to my door and asked me a bunch of questions which boiled down to whether or not I store food. My daughter has ONE pet chicken, and this woman was looking at the chicken and asking if I have any others, etc. Do I garden? Any other animals? Also, she had a list in her hand of all my neighbors, and was planning to see all of them, too.”

Actually, I did see a congresscritter once who stated that the government really needed to either stop or put some guidelines out about people raising their own food. He said that most people did not know how to do it safely.

Gardening is the same way. Technically it is illegal….I couldn’t find the garden thing specifically. This was something a professor pointed out to me, though I did find it odd as well. It was somehow tied into “affecting interstate commerce” This clause however, seems to provide a loophole for anything the govt wishes to do.


“…Gardening is the same way. Technically it is illegal….” And she is correct.


Trojan Horse Law: The Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009

…. Lori Robertson of FactCheck.org, who is not a lawyer (she has a B.A. in advertising), claims the bill doesn’t apply to “that tomato plant in your backyard.” 

As a lawyer, I am skeptical of this claim  (I co-represented the prevailing defendant in the last successful constitutional challenge to federal regulation under the interstate commerce clause, United States v. Morrison (2000), one of only two cases in 70 years in which a challenge was successful).  Congress’s power under the Constitution’s Commerce Clause is almost unlimited in the eyes of the courts, and thus can reach the “tomato plant in your backyard.”

…..Ignorance about the law’s broad reach (and how it will be construed by the courts) has thwarted opposition to the bill, which will likely pass Congress. For example, a newspaper claims the bill “doesn’t regulate home gardens.” The newspaper probably assumed that was true because the bill, like most federal laws, only purports to reach activities that affect “interstate commerce.” To an uninformed layperson or journalist, that “sounds as if it might not reach local and mom-and-pop operators at all.” (The bill’s sponsor, Rep. Rosa DeLauro, has sought to forestall opposition to her bill by falsely claiming that that “the Constitution’s commerce clause prevents the federal government from regulating commerce that doesn’t cross state lines.”)…


But lawyers familiar with our capricious legal system know better. The Supreme Court ruled in Wickard v. Filburn (1942) that even home gardens (in that case, a farmer’s growing wheat for his own consumption) are subject to federal laws that regulate interstate commerce. Economists and scholars have criticized this decision, but it continues to be cited and followed in Supreme Court rulings, such as those applying federal anti-drug laws to consumption of even home-grown medical marijuana. Indeed, many court decisions allow Congress to define as “interstate commerce” even non-commercial conduct that doesn’t cross state lines — something directly at odds with Rep. DeLauro’s claims.

And that brings us to THE GOVERNMENT AND ANTI-HOARDING

I am using a 2005 article as my jumping off point:

Can Our Government Really Tell Us How Much Food and Supplies We Can Keep?


The short answer is YES, in a roundabout way. Due to numerous discussions questioning the existence of federal anti-hoarding legislation, I wanted to see if such Executive Orders had been written….


And then she provides a list of E.O.s now superseded by Obama’s Executive Order 13603

(I do not know if POTUS Trump changed this E.O.)

Sec. 201Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation; (5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials….


She then goes on to say:


These EOs are not aimed at anti-hoarding but rather at seizure or confiscation of items and facilities “to provide a state of readiness in these resource areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.” You’ll find most ‘seizure’ legislation ends with this phrase. These Executive Orders don’t define what specifically constitutes a national emergency and maybe this is as it should be. The specifics on hoarding are left up to the individual states.


However she did not actually look at the 1950 DEFENSE PRODUCTION.

SUBCHAPTER I—PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATIONS Section 4512. Hoarding of designated scare materials.

§4512. Hoarding of designated scarce materials

In order to prevent hoarding, no person shall accumulate

(1) in excess of the reasonable demands of business, personal, or home consumption, or

(2) for the purpose of resale at prices in excess of prevailing market prices,

materials which have been designated by the President as scarce materials or materials the supply of which would be threatened by such accumulation. The President shall order published in the Federal Register, and in such other manner as he may deem appropriate, every designation of materials the accumulation of which is unlawful and any withdrawal of such designation. In making such designations the President may prescribe such conditions with respect to the accumulation of materials in excess of the reasonable demands of business, personal, or home consumption as he deems necessary to carry out the objectives of this chapter. This section shall not be construed to limit the authority contained in .

(Sept. 8, 1950, ch. 932, title I, §102, July 31, 1951, ch. 275, title I, §101(b), .)


She then goes on to FEMA:

What Is FEMA’s Role?

EO #11051 is interesting; it authorizes FEMA near-total power in times of crisis….

FEMA was created by President Carter under Executive Order #12148. Its legal authorization is Title 42, United States Code 5121 (42 USC Sec. 5121) called the “Stafford Act.” During activation of Executive Orders, FEMA answers only to the National Security Council which answers only to the President. Once these powers are invoked, not even Congress can intervene or countermand them for six months….

Who will determine how much food we can have in our house? FEMA.

And the amount depends on the needs of all…not your needs or my needs…but the “welfare” of the needy.

Again, she gets it incorrect. FEMA’s job is the orderly distribution of supplies. The 1950 law confiscates and the 1988 law distributes.

FEMA:


According to FEMA:

Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, PL 100-707, signed into law November 23, 1988; amended the Disaster Relief Act of 1974, PL 93-288.

This Act constitutes the statutory authority for most Federal disaster response activities especially as they pertain to FEMA and FEMA programs.

https://www.fema.gov/disaster/stafford-act

Stafford Act, as Amended

Sec. 413. Food Commodities (42 U.S.C. 5180)

(a) Emergency Mass Feeding – The President is authorized and directed to assure that adequate stocks of food will be ready and conveniently available for emergency mass feeding or distribution in any area of the United States which suffers a major disaster or emergency.

(b) Funds for Purchase of Food Commodities – The Secretary of Agriculture shall utilize funds appropriated under section 612c of title 7, to purchase food commodities necessary to provide adequate supplies for use in any area of the United States in the event of a major disaster or emergency in such area.


However she is correct about state laws.

…..To locate information for your state, look for laws about:

Blood Typing

Disaster Preparedness

Emergencies

Hoarding

Injections

Martial Law

Militia

National Guard

Public Safety or Public Welfare

State Militia

State Police Force

Hawaii As A Specific Example of Anti-Hoarding

For Hawaii, this information will be found in Title 10 under “Public Safety”. It is located after legislation on militias, state guard troops, etc. Then you find the jewel… In Hawaii you are considered a “hoarder” if you have more than one week’s provisions on hand BUT you have to dig to uncover this information. Here is a specific example:

“HAWAII REVISED STATUTES REVISED 1997, Title 10:

(1) Prevention of *hoarding, waste, etc. To the extent necessary to prevent hoarding, waste, or destruction of materials, supplies, commodities, accommodations, facilities, and services, to effectuate equitable distribution thereof, or to establish priorities therein as the public welfare may require, to investigate, and any other law to the contrary notwithstanding, to regulate or prohibit, by means of licensing, rationing, or otherwise, the storage, transportation, use, possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution thereof, and any business or any transaction related thereto.”

Committee Notes? Huh?…..

And to bring us up to the present.

IG report says FEMA is sitting on billions while Mayorkas says no more funds, agency is broke

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas faces a new firestorm of criticism for claiming FEMA is out of disaster funds right as the DHS’ Inspector General released a report saying FEMA is sitting on at least $8.3 billion in untapped, unspent funds.

On Oct 2, Mayorkas said, “We are expecting another hurricane hitting. We do not have the funds. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season and what is imminent.”

This new controversy is surfacing as Hurricane Milton has become a Category 5 storm, and massive evacuations are now underway in Florida, which is still struggling from Hurricane Helene, as is much of the Southeast….

Dear KAG: 20241008 Open Thread

Cover image: The Hurricane by Michael Rucker

Please pray for all those in the path of destruction. That includes my youngest brother, two nephews, a number of cousins and many others.

License Plate Readers Are Creating a US-Wide Database of More Than Just Cars

Badlands News Brief – October 7, 2024

I Worked for Democrats for Years. Billionaires Have Unfettered Influence

Whistleblower Warns FBI Will Deploy Plainclothes Agents to Maricopa County Polling Stations to Monitor Trump Voters

82nd, 101st Airborne send troops to help in Helene recovery efforts

A week late, but, hey.

Georgia prosecutors urge Supreme Court to keep Mark Meadows’ election subversion case in state court

Untapped Relief: FEMA Is Sitting on Billions of Unused Disaster Funds

Of Irregular Wars & Irregular Minds

Joe Scarborough Is Losing His Mind. Why?

Elon and Tucker Accuse Pro-Kamala Billionaires of Being on Epstein’s Client List!

Silicon Valley tech bros are getting red-pilled and voting for Trump…

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

Meme Zone

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1842318803860099242
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1842628333449904409

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

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  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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Luke 10:38-42

38Now as they went on their way, he entered a village; and a woman named Martha received him into her house. 39And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching. 40But Martha was distracted with much serving; and she went to him and said, “Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.” 41But the Lord answered her, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things; 42one thing is needful. Mary has chosen the good portion, which shall not be taken away from her.”

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Dear KMAG: 20241007 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

ultramontane

adjective

  • south of the Alps
  • supporting the Pope
  • of or relating to peoples or regions lying beyond the mountains, especially the Alps
  • supporting the authority of the papal court over national or diocesan authority
  • relating to or supporting the doctrine of papal supremacy
  • literally – “beyond the mountains”

Shown in a picture – sort of

All hail the Cthulhu plushie!


MUSIC!

Some interesting period music for a role-playing game related to the Lovecraft story…..

But if that’s not your bag, try this mountain music – supposedly the first ever film of Appalachian music – which was recorded on October 7, 1928 – and posted to the internet on October 7, 2021.

Here for your enjoyment on October 7, 2024.

Good stuff! And speaking of stuff…..


THE STUFF

Did you know that – in addition to the speed of light – there is a “55 mph truck speed” that protons have to deal with?

Steve prepared you for this video. Enjoy!

Hmmmmm…….

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


PS – Wishing the people of Israel peace and safety on this day of infamy.