Discernment 102: Seeding the Clouds of Smoke and Mirrors with Misdirectional Disinformation

I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.

Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.

According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.

After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.

And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.

So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.


What happened can be summarized in a brief list:

  • Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
  • The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
  • Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
  • The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”

NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.


Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/29/dear-kmag-20190629-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-186459

boondocksaint1

June 29, 2019 at 19:51

We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!

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boondocksaint1

June 29, 2019 at 20:09

Just in case there are any questions, barium is spelled correctly, it is one of the main ingredients in the chem spray.

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wolfmoon1776

June 29, 2019 at 20:31

Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.

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boondocksaint1

June 29, 2019 at 20:32

same

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Now – see what came next – the KEY to this thing….

B.b.S.s.Saint

June 29, 2019 at 20:41

boondocksaint1’s researcher here: here is what he is talking about the aircrew arm patch

Don’t Just Spray ‘Em….Barium #TeamChemtrailfrom flying

a close up of the patch

https://external-preview.redd.it/3DyzhDqQzuGNaSjQWLXlyHBWmiwZaeR1JYVTUSL1kVE.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7ecb9a31503841aada2794eee90a28a31a233e44

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wolfmoon1776

June 29, 2019 at 21:17

Thank you! You do not know how cool this is.

This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.

Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.

This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.

They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.

What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.

They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.

Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.

We are dealing with professionals.

It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.

I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.

Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.

SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?

Post coming! 😎

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B.b.S.s.Saint

June 29, 2019 at 21:28

I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin

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Now back to boondocksaint1…….

boondocksaint1

June 29, 2019 at 21:31

How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.

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wolfmoon1776

June 29, 2019 at 21:36

Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.

Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.

Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀

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boondocksaint1

June 29, 2019 at 21:43

Can’t wait, i’m all eyes & ears! I don’t usually get fooled, but, it was quite an operation. be watching for your post.

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wolfmoon1776

June 29, 2019 at 21:45

I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.

Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).

The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.

NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:

NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.

Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.

So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”

Here is the URL of the page:

https://teamchemtrail.com/collections/all

Here is the URL of an ARCHIVE that I made of the page, in case it gets taken down.

https://archive.fo/BlqVN

It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.

To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:

ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL

Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.

Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!

Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!

Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!

https://teamchemtrail.com/pages/about-us

The link again:

https://teamchemtrail.com/pages/about-us

And the archive:

https://archive.fo/MvYY4


SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.

And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.

But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.

The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.

So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.


To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.

Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.

After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.

The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.

NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.

(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).

(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.

The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.

https://pjmedia.com/video/sharyl-attkisson-explains-tedx-talk-origins-2016-fake-news-narrative/

Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.

But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.

SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.

Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.

Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.

WE WERE WINNING.

The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.

One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.

I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?

Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.

Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.

They weren’t funny.

Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.

It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.

Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.

It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.

Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.

Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:

  • believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
  • unprovable, or even provably WRONG
  • “too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
  • seemingly designed to FOOL people
  • and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY

All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.

Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?

Yeah, like one even has to ask.

Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.

I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.

SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.

SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?

OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.


There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.

You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.

You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.

What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:

  • the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
  • it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
  • it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
  • the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it

The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.

DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.

What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.

This is the point that pops out the most to me:

SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.

This is the beginning of understanding.

What else do we know? Keep going from there….

  • the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
  • they are definitely connected to aviation
  • they are probably connected to the government and/or military
  • they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
  • their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
  • they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
  • they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
  • whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative

Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.

I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.

Here we go. Enjoy the show.


Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.

One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.

Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.

In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.

The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?

  • create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
  • feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
  • make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
  • make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.

To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.

But wait – there’s MOAR….


Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.

This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.

What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.

Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.

Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:

  • add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
  • distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
  • add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
  • name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS

What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.

This is the power of disinformation.

So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.

And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.


Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.

How can I put this simply?

OK – let’s try this…

“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”

What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.

What could this be?

There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.

Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.

(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)

Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.

OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.

Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.


Now – let’s back up to REALITY.

All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.

What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.

To me, that tells me that there IS a story.

We just don’t know what that story is.

Yet.

W

THEIR SPRAY FOR WOLF AIN’T WORKIN’.

Dear MAGA: 20190613 Open Topic

This THINKING ABOUT THINGS ON THURSDAY THE THIRTEENTH open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

And it would be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Now – let’s talk about a video.

A video featuring a guy I know very little about, named David Icke.

I don’t know who this guy is. I know almost nothing about him. But I do know this.

After I watched this, I UNDERSTOOD why Silicon Valley is censoring us and why they DO NOT CARE AT ALL WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.

So NOW – please watch this. It’s just 10 minutes.

Here is a back-up link to Icke’s own site:

https://www.davidicke.com/article/539582/will-done-2030-featuring-david-icke


What do you think about this?

To me, the most important point is this:

I believe these Silicon Valley people who are censoring us see the world in a completely different way than we do. I believe they no longer actually care what we think.

I am starting to think that they are actually BLIND to many kinds of thought. They have LOST DISCERNMENT.

Their BRAINS have not resisted some process that WE HAVE. Just like Icke describes.

I am reminded of an episode of the New Outer Limits called “Stream of Consciousness”:

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-outer-limits-1995/episodes/78006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_Consciousness_(The_Outer_Limits)

The opening and closing narrations are worth reading.


We quantify our world in order to learn. We break it down into facts, numbers, information. But how far dare we go before we destroy its mystery?


We make tools to extend our abilities, to further our reach, and fulfill our aspirations. But we must never let them define us. For if there is no difference between tool and maker, then who will be left to build the world?


I don’t know the answers to these questions. Nor do I know if, when, or how these questions will be answered. However, I believe that WE have questions that THEY are not even willing to admit are valid questions, much less answer.

Most importantly, I believe that our technological elite lack fundamental moral principles needed to safely do what they are doing. Their moral blind spots are dangerous. The technology they create – with baked-in error – will become dangerous – to itself and everything else.

That’s OK. WE have the Base Designer to fall back on. And we have a FIXER in the White House, too. With God, all FIXES are possible!

W


The Top 10 Things I Learned During My Absence from The Q Tree

As you can see, I’m back. It’s good to be back. Thank you for your prayers – I am not kidding you – they WORKED! <3 <3 <3

If there is one thing to remember, THAT is it. Prayer WORKS.

If you’re short on time, skip the rest, or just read the headlines.

THANK YOU ALL.

W


I wanted to keep this [reasonably] short, so I chose the “top 10” format again.

1. Extreme typing skills disappear in around a week of disuse

Enigma Machine Keyboard

This is surprising, but when I could not get through a single sentence without a mistake last night, I knew something was up. I’m struggling now, but the skills ARE coming back.

2. Y’all did amazing – this place is doing great, and I can prove it

It was almost tempting me to abandon you all to SUCCESS and simply disappear, because things are WORKING. Just take a look at the stats. The new authorship configuration isn’t just working – it’s BETTER.

Look at that final weekly cycle! Good stuff. We have NEVER had a week like that.

Time to celebrate some WINNING and then figure out how we can get us some MOAR. 😉

3. Unmasking Trump is unmasking. Gun-Grabbin’ Vlad is now totally unmasked on Venezuelan commies.

This I did not see coming, but when it came – oh yeah.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russia-exclusive-idUSKCN1PJ22M

But yeah – it’s not like we COULD NOT have seen this coming.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-dispatching-blackjack-bombers-venezuela/

The revelation point for me was Venezuela being behind the “caravans”.

Now let’s see….. what would the “Jimmy Carter / Barack Obama response” to THAT be? Take whatever THAT is, and do the OPPOSITE, and you’ve got the TRUMP RESPONSE.

Oh yeah. 😎

To borrow a picture from OT….

But OH YEAH, Russia wanted this guy. 🙄

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

I am still SLAPPING MYSELF in the face over falling for the DEMOCRAT/COMMUNIST MIND CONTROL on Muh Russia.

The point was NOT to make us fall for the short-term BS of the Democrat projection of the MUH RUSSIA lies. It was to very subtly position us so as to avoid any REVERSALS of the larger globo-commie geopolitical agenda over the 4-8 years of Trump that their plan anticipates.

Weaponized psychology. Pure KGB-CIA.

Speaking of which…..

4. I cannot watch any form of mass media “entertainment” now without seeing the mind control

Everything. Absolutely everything. It all makes me CRINGE now.

Turn on “HBO”. It “advertises” for itself. But now I see it as propaganda for propaganda. My jaw just DROPS at the brazen mind control.

We tell ourselves that we see the propaganda and filter it out, but we are lying to ourselves. We only see the top layer. The top layer that we actually SEE is the “throw-away” – the Hail Mary – the OTT that serves to do exactly what it does – to make us go “AHA! We see it!” – and to then miss all the rest. The professional stuff.

Exactly as planned.

For every obvious instance of mind control that you catch, look for three or four more messages, that are stronger, deeper, and more subtle. THOSE are the REAL intent.

I no longer view what these people do as mere INFLUENCE. Influence may be sneaky, but it fundamentally accepts the idea that there is an option to NOT change your mind. It may approach you in a sneaky way, but it does it through the accepted API, if you will, of media that you can accept or reject.

MIND CONTROL accepts no validity of any form of opposition. It will subvert the very medium against the medium’s best interests to force its message past the medium to the target.

MIND CONTROL will hold the medium hostage to attack the target.

MIND CONTROL raises the bar “beyond the pale” to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get the job done.

By Any Means Necessary. PURE Holderism. Brainwashing.

Netflix. Ask WHY.

And remember – I’m talking about “ENTERTAINMENT”. This doesn’t even count the FAKE NEWS. And speaking of Fake News….

5. Fake Science is a thing

Once I started seeing how FAKE science has become, there was no turning back. Every single one of the science societies and associations is corrupted now. We simply CANNOT TRUST any of the major mainstream associations to be honest with us. They are ALL politically controlled.

Pretty soon, according to the politically controlled associations of psychologists and psychiatrists, “trans kids” will be “normal”, and opposition to “trans kids” will be “mental illness”.

Wait for it. Be READY for it. BE PREPARED. (Boy Scout Motto)

Be ready to USE your preparation to DESTROY THE CREDIBILITY of the politically controlled science organizations.

They are SOVIET and they can be labeled as such quite successfully.

PREPARE FOR BATTLE.

Are you READY to tell their entire WORLD to GO TO HELL?

We are going to have to stand up like never before. We are going to have to bring exactly what Q has said – to make the “experts” who mock common sense and basic logic literally ashamed to walk down the streets.

And THOSE who inflicted them on us will have to answer. Those nations which DEGRADED and DECEIVED America will need to answer. They will STOP and we will show mercy. Or they will NOT STOP and they will ANSWER for their CRIMES.

Physical destruction of aberrant human society was is apparently a thing.

6. I believe Trump saw the Democrat “shutdown false flags” coming

There is more to this than meets the eye.

Our President knows how to play “chicken” with Cheating Nancy “Mafia Donna” Pelosi better than she does, which is actually saying A LOT. He certainly has more BLZ than I do.

I was getting QUITE nervous that we had not yet seen some kind of “false flag” attack that the Democrats would then try to blame on Trump as part of their government shutdown strategy.

My feeling is that the Communist Democrats were waiting for our VSGPOTUS to commit HARD to an “as long as it takes” shutdown – allow for some “doubling down” on various painful items, and then hit the news with the dead American bodies, courtesy of the same rogue KGB-CIA contractors who do all the MK murders for the Democrats.

SO – when Trump called off the shutdown, because he actually CARES about people like us, I breathed a sigh of relief. And trust me – there are some innocent Americans SOMEWHERE who will be breathing for a lot longer, thanks to that decision.

Add to that, the fact that VSGPOTUS is a remarkably good chess player. He held out JUST long enough to (1) unmask the radical communist Democrats, (2) demonstrate that an emergency wall build is necessary, and (3) blame-shift onto the Democrats at historic levels. ALL of this without DACA approval actually being conceded.

The Dems should have taken a deal. Too late now. Trump WINS everything by “conceding” NOTHING. Very few people understand TIME like Trump.

7. There is something we don’t yet understand about Epstein Island

I’m not sure what is going on with Epstein and “Pedo Island”, but something is not adding up.

  • There seems to be an enormous amount of disinformation
  • I’m not getting the proper “spiritual vibe” on things, and I tend to trust my gut on this stuff
  • In Clinton-world, there is always a REAL scandal under the FAKE scandal
  • Law enforcement tolerated this guy out the wazoo. WHY?
  • Epstein is clearly a “short-eyes” for teen girls – the evidence is STRONG. But is he actually a satanist?
  • How much of the Epstein mythos is REAL, and how much is BS?
  • What kind of temple is this REALLY? Does anybody actually KNOW?

Epstein needs more investigation. Not rumors. Strong explanations.

8. So far, so good, on my first above-ground thermonuclear test

One cannot engage in something like my little public MK reveal without expecting a large number of effects. Without going into details, the results were roughly what I expected, with the net result being BETTER than expected.

There will be much more to assess. In the meanwhile, I can say that – overall – new knowledge is tracking STRONGLY toward the video that Q always points us toward. The ESTABLISHMENT have used every tool at their fingertips to empower and enrich themselves. Even things – maybe ESPECIALLY THINGS – that they should not have touched.

The SILENCE from the right places is deafening, and in that silence, I am getting radar pings of new understanding that are going to explain even more than I thought possible.

The CONSPIRACY that ran me over like a dog in the road is going to see a bit of sunlight. From many directions. Even a crippled coyote can pull back a curtain or two.

9. Calizona is a thing

Trust me – The Lingerie Leftist is only going to get worse.

This is KGB-CIA mind control at its best. People like Kyrsten Sinema (you know, like Sin + cinema!) are PRODUCTS designed to GAIN POWER. This woman – with a nearly perfect Soviet Russian policy record on Palestinians (a beautiful time-independent tell on global communist alignment) – was bumped up the political chain JUST LIKE Obama, and somewhat like Hillary.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/128918-radical-anti-israel-democrat-declared-winner-in-arizona-u-s-house-race/

Bill Clinton. Obama. “Canada” Kamala. Goofball Ossoff. Danny O’Connor. Occasional Cortex. Ms. Cinema.

It’s always the same. ELECTABLE PRODUCTS are not a capitalist thing – they are a COMMUNIST thing. Hidden hard-left baggage snuck into power, and when they get caught, they blame the MONEY in politics and simply try to re-game it for advantage.

You cannot begin to FIGHT this stuff until you admit to exactly what they are doing, and you cannot admit to exactly what they are doing until you admit to exactly what they are doing to YOU.

I personally find this chick HOT in a very weird and perverse way, EXACTLY like she is supposed to affect people. I am simply crude enough and honest enough to admit it, because I want to debug and disarm their socio-cyber weaponry.

It is no accident that she dresses the way she does – that she acts the way she does – that she was CHOSEN to ASCEND.

This is ALL PLANNED, folks.

I have LEARNED FROM TRUMP. I am UNMASKING. And I am SPREADING the ABILITY TO UNMASK.

https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1088960982561509377
https://twitter.com/210GOPTEJANA/status/1088603508813762560

Between Botox Nan, Occasional Cortex, and Kinky Kyrsten in her faux underwear outerwear, we have popcorn from now until both Trump’s reelection and the Pence-Pompeo primaries.

Just remember, however – this is Mind Control. This is part of the intentional degradation of our system of government, which they MAKE YOU WATCH.

Think of it. We actually PAY the KGB-CIA to subject us to this garbage. to INFLICT this nonsense on us.

Hilarious. And WICKED.

This PLANNED ACT by Kinky Kyrsten is EXACTLY WHY they forced this hapless chick on us. This is WHY they created the Sinema-McSally race and then cheated it to a Sinema win, with the whole thing RIGGED so that there would be no objection by “Poor Puppy” “Poor Normal American” “Defeat with Honor” “McCain Junior” McSally.

YOUR DEFEAT CONDITIONING WAS TELEVISED.

Sinema-versus-McSally is just Obama-versus-McCain is just Obama-versus-Romney all over again.

It’s not just the VICTORY they want – it’s the DEFEAT for YOU to experience.

KGB-researched, CIA-perfected, communist theater that YOU are forced to watch.

Allowed Alternative 2 (to be appointed) questions Recommended Alternative 1 who WILL receive the proper number of votes to win.

The key points to remember are that:

  • This is not an accident
  • This is Mind Control
  • The best ways to FIGHT BACK all begin with RECOGNITION

It’s important to recognize that what they do is INTENTIONAL and PLANNED with MEDIA COMPLICITY.

It REALLY IS “Fake News”.

Speaking of which……

10. “Learn to code” is a lesson in karma, redemption, and the moral superiority of guns over humans

This will take some explaining. 😉

The bottom line is that “Guns don’t kill people – people kill people.” is a very profound statement, and learning to code when your job is taken away by less scrupulous humans will actually TEACH THIS.

Humans will use you, abuse you, and then abandon you. Machines won’t. Not unless humans MAKE THEM DO IT.

Oh, the irony. That we should ASPIRE to be like machines.

Well, except for the part about the machine using a gun, but that gets complicated. We’ll save that for another time. 😉

To get to “guns don’t kill people” by the scenic route, let’s look at the idea of insulting people with the malicious (yet helpful) advice of “learn to code”.

Where did this come from? Most people think it started with the “advice” from the leftist establishment to coal miners and other “deplorables”, that when the elite sent their jobs to China and Mexico, that they should “learn to code” instead. Because “those jobs aren’t coming back” – or at least so we were told.

This is worth a closer look….

Although there were a few useful idiots on the left who grabbed some headlines and “virtue attaboys” by actually taking such “you can code” re-education talk seriously, the advice was, in fact, a SCANDALOUS insult.

At least on the surface level.

An insult? Why?

Because the very same people who GAVE that advice were the ones who had in fact already KILLED THE CODING JOBS. by either shipping them overseas, or by bringing in immigrants under H1B visas to do the work more cheaply.

To say nothing of the fact that it was becoming harder and harder for those WHITE MALES (you know – the people who actually LIKE to code) to get coding jobs, with such jobs being given preferentially to everybody else.

You see? CYNICAL. Very cynical advice.

The schadenfreude of the current “advice” back to fired leftist journalists is real, but ironically the job market is much better, thanks to…….

Yeah. “Orange Man bad.”

However, it goes DEEPER. “Learn to code” goes back even further, to when it was the advice given to American scientists as THEIR jobs vanished, as American science became American Fake Science, lying FIRST to its own, before it began to lie to everybody else.

Hey – I know what I’m talking about here. I “learned to code”. And I thank G_d that this was my fate.


The beauty of all this sound and fury over coding is the deep irony that “learn to code” is actually good advice, and leftist-beaten but never-defeated Andrew Torba knows it, just like I do.

Maximus discovers his family LYNCHED by the Establishment in the movie “Gladiator”.

Sometimes – and this does seem to be a “God thing” – it is our very undoings, our downfalls, and our betrayals by those “craftier, less unfortunate, and more fortunately unindicted co-conspirators” that make us stronger and wiser.

“Learn to code” is the school of hard knocks. It is where one learns things like the following:

  • Code is the best place for globalist management to hide their LIES, because most people can’t SEE them in code.
  • Memos say what management wants everybody to believe about management. Code says what management actually wanted.
  • Management always wants YOU to code the lies – they refuse to learn to code because then THEY would not have YOU to blame.
  • If you won’t do it, management will find somebody else who will.
  • Foreigners make GREAT “just do this and don’t ask annoying ethical questions” coders, and that is why globalist management loves them.
  • Machines don’t lie. People lie, or force machines to lie.
  • Guns REALLY don’t kill people. People kill people, and the deadliest people don’t use guns. They use LAWS. Bad, deceitful, cunning LAWS. You know. LAWFARE.
  • Guns have a message, if you listen very carefully. “If humans get rid of guns because they cannot live with them, there will be nobody left to tell humans they are getting worse, and possibly too bad to be allowed to continue to exist.”
  • See how that works? You can bet that SOMEBODY did.

The view from the bottom is SPECTACULAR. Sometimes getting sent there is a blessing in disguise.

Learn to code. Trust me – it’s for your own good.

W

Everything is better when it’s properly aged and wearing the right hat for the job.

Two-Strzok Smoke and Two Pages in the Hall of Mirrors


Is “Second Strzok” David Bowdich an “Untouchable” or a “New McCabe”?

And is Lisa Page an Intelligence Idiot or the Super-Spy Who Fooled Congress?


I was wondering why I was picking up heat of certain extremely interesting kinds.

Starting and maintaining this troublesome little website was bound to cause annoyance in DC, but I was surprised when that heat took on a characteristically federal nature that suggested the FBI was involved.

The actors (COUGH, COUGH) were not interested in information that might solve America’s problems. They seemed interested in information that might solve THEIR problems. WE being a part of those problems. ME being a particular one of those problems.

Interesting.

If people are starting to understand why I’m taking precautions to preserve this site in my absence, now you’re likely getting ideas why precautions are necessary.

Q said “You have more than you know.” He was NOT lying.


In a prior post, here, I talked about certain principles of information reversal that are particularly useful for what the other side is up to, blame-casting THEIR commie collusions on President Trump. It all gets very confusing, but I think that stating those ideas once again is useful.

First, the general principle:

The CLOSER the straw-man [accusation] can be arranged, FACTUALLY, to the REALITY being covered up, the EASIER the defense, because the STORY is closer to the REALITY, and pieces of the REALITY can be used as “proof” of the STORY – particularly if the STORY is advanced FIRST and the disentangled REALITY is posited LATER in defense.

This is then followed by three corollaries:

  1. Counterintelligence is the perfect place for this sort of intrigue, since counterintelligence amounts to infiltration of infiltration, staying infinitely close to the original infiltration. Basically, getting CLOSE to the REALITY with a DECEPTION is part of the game, so counterintelligence is a natural place to SEED this kind of defense.
  2. The ploy of reversed accusation becomes even easier and possibly even necessary if the enemy actually IS colluding with the accusing compromised or corrupted counterintelligence. This allows the enemy to “assist” the lies of the other side’s compromised counterintelligence, keeping them in place. This means that the counterintelligence people, if corrupted by the enemy, can then be “helped” by the enemy – in schemes exactly like what we are observing. Like I said, “19” [money dump plausibly matching amount offered to Carter Page] may have been a gift from Russia with love, or at least alliance.
  3. One of the first places that should be subverted by the enemy, both directly and indirectly, is counterintelligence.

THOSE were followed by some ideas that bring it all back to

COMEYWORLD:

The Hillary email cover-up by the SAME participants as in the FRAMING of Trump, is the BEGINNING of the revelation of the other half of the story – the COVER-UP. The TIGHTNESS of the same cast of characters in the Mueller cover-up fake investigation and the HRC email exoneration / cover-up is a kind of give-away of the theory I posited earlier.

Go back and review what I said, if it doesn’t make sense. It should. You can also see why the interception of the plot – by releasing text messages of Page and Strzok to force them out of the Mueller probe – was clearly the result of extremely skilled “IG-type work” in counter-intelligence. It’s not about the messages. It’s about the plot.

Wolf Moon, “The Framing of a President as the Cover-Up of Treason”

NOW – if you understand why POPPING STRZOK and McCABE out of the FBI was so important to bringing the continuing Hillary MADNESS roughly half-way to a close, you will understand the importance of what SUNDANCE – and unknown patriots who got some of Lisa Page’s information to him – just did.

He’s using “same-player” to MAKE A BUST.


First things first, I *URGE* you to read this post by Sundance.

Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…

Sundance’s analysis is based on THIS reporting by Jeff Carlson in The Epoch Times:

EXCLUSIVE: Transcripts of Lisa Page’s Closed-Door Testimonies Provide New Revelations in Spygate Scandal

https://www.theepochtimes.com/transcripts-of-lisa-pages-closed-door-testimonies-provide-new-revelations_2763452.html

Sundance makes some extremely important points that show we now have a half-full glass of MAGA, where previously many saw it either empty or full. And it was the PERSISTENCE of our Granular Brother who found the key which unlocks the mystery. And maybe opens a new one.

“Really it’s the people that met with Jim Comey. Those are the only people that were really the same with respect to both teams. So it’s the same general counsel, the same deputy general counsel, me, Mr. McCabe, Dave Bowdich. The EAD for National Security Branch changed, but that was just because of regular personnel turnover.

Lisa Page, emphasis by Sundance

Many of us were trying to figure out how David Bowdich rose to the level of Deputy FBI Director under Chris Wray.  [Bowdich was previously the FBI field office head for the San Bernardino terrorist attack investigation in California]  Now we see that Bowdich was at the center of the small group in Washington DC who were doing the Trump investigation.
This reconciles why the current FBI is blocking the release of the witness transcripts.  Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?

Sundance, emphasis by Wolf Moon

Bowdich, I believe, is key. I had earlier thought that my “heat” might have Muellerish origins, but what if we have a “New McCabe” in place – WELLLLLL, that would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?

I am not automatically convinced that Bowdich is crooked, because I tend to think that Wray is a straight-shooter, and would pick straight-shooters. I differ with utmost respect with Sundance on this point. But straight-shooters often have certain weaknesses, and one of them is being somewhat manipulable – particularly in a corrupt institution. Bowdich has taken DOWN corrupt institutions. But has he ever stopped to think that he might have worked IN ONE for DECADES?

It’s a weird feeling. 😉

Bowdich isn’t just connected to the sketchy San Bernardino “event” – he’s also connected to a prior sketchy incident – the “LAX shooter” named Paul Ciancia (you know – as in “CIA ‘n’ CIA”) who rescued TSA from public weariness single-handedly.

(“OY VEY! At least he’s not JOSH EARNEST.”)

But I digress. 😉

https://www.thejournal.ie/lax-shooting-gunman-charged-tsa-agent-1158539-Nov2013/

Note how Bowdich “graduated” from this sketchy event to the next one in San Bernardino. ALL THE WAY TO TRUMP.

Now I’m not saying this guy is a bad guy. But I think there are several possibilities.

(1) Bowdich may have been closely observed by the McCabians to make sure he didn’t get any career-killing “conspiracy theory” ideas about sketchy events. He may have been brought forward precisely because he was “safe”. But that also means he has a blind spot that a CIA panel truck can drive right through, any time it wants. Of course such a person could be talked into reverso WRONG investigations like Trump or (COUGH) other people. This would explain a lot.

(2) Bowdich was “read in” on the sketchy gun grab events, and knew exactly why this stuff straight out of Bill Cooper was happening. He is then most likely exactly as Sundance is calling it – covering stuff up because of knowledge.

(3) Bowdich was NOT read in BEFORE, but is now aware of what the heck is going on, and he is covering up things for strategic reasons we don’t know, which could be good or bad. All bets are off, here. There is a possibility of UNTOUCHABLE, and things are getting interesting.

Bottom line – David Bowdich is a new variable that could be anywhere from “New McCabe” to “Untouchable”. And we know he’s covering up stuff for SOME reason.

Here’s WaPo’s take. Read it with care.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/01/29/the-rise-of-david-bowdich-the-former-sniper-in-line-to-become-the-fbis-new-deputy-director/?utm_term=.ebf1bb085863


I love the way I can “speculate well out ahead” of where Sundance’s more painstaking and granular approach goes, but when you need highly directed sunlight, his laser focus cannot be beat. So let’s start off with the FINALE to his post:

There’s a hell of a lot more to be learned from the Lisa Page testimony, specifically about the role of the CIA in the overall operation… 

However, for me personally, her outline of Bowdich in the main FBI DC office -as connected to the larger investigation- completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.

DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions.   Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowdich as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.

The picture we get here is how the 2015/2016 officials within the corrupt DOJ and FBI enterprise, were put into higher office in the Trump administration 2017/2018; and those same officials are currently occupying positions that allow them to keep their prior corrupt activity hidden.

This whole thing is FUBAR.

Sundance, his emphasis

Let me re-emphasize something from that:

“However, for me personally, her outline of Bowdich in the main FBI DC office – as connected to the larger investigation – completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.” –Sundance, my emphasis

Good G_d in Heaven, I could have written those words myself. Although I am talking about a certain SMALLER investigation.

I *knew* it was Radium Rod coming at me, but I just didn’t know HOW he was doing it. I thought that the MUELLER SHOW was the only BAD ACT in FBI Town. And the Mueller Show had ZERO plausible rhyme or reason to go after me. Oh, yeah, they can put RUSSIANS into anybody’s world (COUGH, COUGH, note previous corollaries), but they can’t really mix them with Trump, so that part sucks for them.

There is no REVERSO to set up a STRAW MAN to go after me. There are ways to do REVERSO – as was done on Trump – but it’s more tied to CANKLES and OBAMA and OTHER THINGS.

So how does Q say it? “BOOM!”? I think that’s the proper expression.

As soon as I saw that we could potentially have a NEW McCABE in place, or somebody who could be bamboozled by OLD McCABES – as in McCabe’s finest “leavings”, everything started making SENSE. They don’t HAVE to go through Mueller – they can do reverso on other things.

And it’s not like they didn’t try that ALREADY.

If Q know what I mean. 😉

Certain people have a NEW COVER-UP needed, AND they need to shut me up about everything ELSE we talk about here.

WHATEVER. I simply want to thank Sundance for providing the key that solves the mystery. NOW I know where my friends and fellow patriots can point their fingers, should I not return in a most excellent condition to this blog, after my brief (yes, brief) absence.


Now – one more thing I notice about Lisa Page. Originally I had this gal pegged for some kind of CIA super-asset that was using Strzok like her personal, Hillary-electing, “spot massage” device. Little did I realize, it was the OTHER WAY AROUND on CIA connections. But I’m STILL on the fence about whether this woman is (1) a dope and a dupe, or (2) an extremely cunning super-spy who has Congress totally bamboozled.

Two CIA bots in the sack? Don’t get me started. In the sack is where everybody wants everybody. Well, not quite. But I digress.

This LEAK may mean it’s the latter – she’s TROUBLE and somebody KNOWS IT, and they needed to LEAK IT. If it’s true that BOWDICH hid her testimony because of what I’m going to say, then things get interesting.

I begin.

After reading that Lisa Page worked for Bruce Ohr for years, I started to think that maybe she really was just some poor cog in the machine, not qualified for counterintelligence, swept up as a desirable dupe in a non-functional, or better yet, reverse-purposed FBI.

But then OH MY GOD – you simply cannot get closer to Russia on this side of the Atlantic than Nellie Ohr, Russia researcher and specialist, with more downstate New York red commie ties than I can shake a stick at. The fact that she almost perfectly parallels ANOTHER “spent some time in Russia” lady academic who is deeply connected to both American communists and the Tree of Life synagogue shooting – well, that is even more worrisome to me. All these weird “puppets of Russia” or sketchy Russians working on the fringes of plots against Trump – it’s just so WEIRD.

[I keep working on the fascinating Tree of Life / Russia post, but it keeps getting delayed. SOON. Hopefully whoever was on my computer in a white hatty way while I was researching that is ahead of me.]

No matter whether Lisa Page is a dupe or a super-spy, I think that the plotters thought she was SAFE. She is either safe because she’s super-unqualified and a DUPE, or safe because she’s super-devious.

We really need to find out WHICH.

Here is the key that proves something is up. This is an extensive quote from Jeff Carlson’s article in The Epoch Times, citing Lisa Page:

Page Denies Bias, But Says FBI Focused More on Trump Than Clinton

Page steadfastly maintained there was no bias present in either the Clinton-email investigation or the Trump-Russia investigation on the part of anyone within the FBI or the DOJ and went to some lengths to illustrate that, in general, FBI personnel don’t like most of the people they tend to investigate.

At the same time, Page repeatedly and openly admitted to placing a greater emphasis and weight on the Trump-Russia investigation than the Clinton-email investigation:

“If you were weighing resources with respect to which poses a graver threat to national security, which is more, frankly, important, there is no doubt—at least in mine or anybody else’s mind that I know—that the Russia investigation posed an incredible threat to national security, and whether we got into the Weiner laptop simply did not.”

Page returned to this topic several times:

“The notion that there might be more emails that have not previously been seen that existed on Hillary Clinton’s email server just simply don’t even enter into the realm of the same room of seriousness. The Clinton investigation involved activities that had taken place 3 years prior. It’s an entirely historical investigation.”

“In the assessment of the Counterintelligence Division, they still don’t even come close to the threat posed if Russia had co-opted a member of a political campaign.”

Jeff Carlson, The Epoch Times, citing Lisa Page

To me, this is MIND-BLOWINGLY BACKWARDS. A long-term criminal threat going BEHIND THE DESK in the Oval Office is 1,000,000 times worse than some slightly Russified POLITICAL HACK going into a campaign – EVEN as an adviser.

She. Is. LYING.

The question is WHY.

What she is saying is garbage, and needs an explanation. And if that explanation has anything to do with David Bowdich, it had better be because Q is not bullshit and Wray is turning around the FBI underneath all these fuckers, and Page has to hide what is really going on. Otherwise just call out the tanks.

There is no comparison. If Hillary Clinton obstructed the FBI in a criminal fashion [HELLO, STONETEAR], likely done to hide international crimes up to and including espionage, this is INFINITELY more dangerous than Trump having some happy dupe named Carter Page working for him (assuming the most likely REAL threat by Carter Page was being a Russian dupe). In fact, even the scenario of “Carter Page = Carlos” compares at microscopic levels to the enormous problem of “Hillary Clinton = Ethel Rosenberg”.

Are we all seeing this?

And NONE of this takes into account the absolutely historically incorrect nature of the Lisa Page argument. She even USES the word “historical”. Holy FUCK – that’s ballsy.

Espionage is fought and won in the PAST – not the future. Hillary *herself* has MOUNTAINS of sketchy past that the FBI was IGNORING at every turn. And the’re worried about an adviser on the FRINGE of the Trump campaign in the FUTURE? Seriously?

This is CRAP. It is the most brazen form of bullshittery imaginable.

And this woman is making counterintelligence decisions?

Does everybody see what I’m saying? Page is either stupid or lying.

Could they REALLY have picked somebody THAT STUPID for this job?

I could be very wrong about that, but I’m starting to think this woman is lying her ass off here. I’m starting to think she is PLAYING DUMB ON HILLARY.

But let’s assume for a moment that Lisa Page IS dumb on actual espionage, subversion, and communism. To me, this absolute FAILURE to understand long-term communist subversion shows an incredible “pwnage” of the highest levels of the counterintelligence division of the FBI.

In fact, the following Lisa Page quote in the same article, makes me want to face-palm, if the SAME Lisa Page who believes the above, believes what I cite below.

Page, who acknowledged her personal relationship with Strzok at several points during the interview, noted that initially, Strzok was not “brought over as the senior executive to run the investigation. Another individual was, and that was not successful. It was not a good match with Mr. Mueller. He did not really have the sufficient counterintelligence background to be effective. That individual would later be identified as John Brown.

Lisa Page, my emphasis

Sorry, I am NOT buying that.

EXPLAIN it to us, Ms. Page, AS YOU WOULD TO A CHILD.

And NO, you cannot hide behind your “sources and methods” Halperoid Oxford / Cambridge Communist bullshit.

No. I’m starting to think that Mueller spotted Mr. Brown as a WHITE HAT. Page helped shuffle him out the door. Reds, dupes, “Strzok specials” and fellow travelers only.


Did these people at DOJ and FBI have any true understanding of Hillary Clinton?

Some did, I’m sure. The most ideological of players – people like Eric Holder surely did. THE RADICALS. Maybe “Comey the Commie”, although he strikes me as far more of a venal go-along, and less of a true believer.

I’m not sure about McCabe. I’m not even sure if most of those who were “read in” on the communist plots, such as the long range gun ban revealed by Bill Cooper, actually REALIZED they were carrying out communist plots. But they must have followed orders properly, and knew how to cover things up properly, because we know very well how highly THAT skill is valued by these Obama players.

And if Bowdich WAS involved in the stuff Bill Cooper revealed, then yes – he might have some utility in covering it up.

“Cover-up? Don’t cover me up, bro!”

In any case, the psychological control of the FBI was complete under Obama. Nobody at lower levels had a CLUE. Evidence that might have broken the glass-smooth mirror surface of FAKE NEWS illusion at FBI was quickly handed over to complicit individuals in charge of DUPES, fellow travelers and yes-people.

I CRY that this Sally Moyer chick was allowed anywhere NEAR anything Hillary.

And that now CONTINUES – and WILL CONTINUE – as long as people who are part of the tortoise-slow plot to BRAINWASH AGAINST GUNS are in charge.

If they were READ IN on the murders, then they need to be KICKED OUT.

Remember. There ARE no accidents. Not any more.

NEW McCABE?  Let us hope not.  AYE-YI-YI, let us hope not.  

Pray to G_D that this guy really IS an Untouchable.

And Lisa Page? She is NOT telling the truth. FIGURE IT OUT.

WHY are they covering this up?

W

Looks like a job for Ultraman.

Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181231

This special NEW YEAR’S EVE MAGA MONDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.


Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU


SPACE FORCE. IT’S LIKE THE AIR FORCE WITH TRUMP STYLE.

Worth checking out:

https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/24/ufo-conspiracy-theorists-see-space-force-as-eviden/

https://youtu.be/hUouIgbrNZY

https://www.wired.com/story/what-is-up-with-those-pentagon-ufo-videos/

Interesting stuff, but I keep “grounded” about it with my faith 😎

W

Planet Trump – I mean Jupiter!

X-Files Special Screening

Today’s latest Q post[s]:

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 94d00f No.4197470 
Dec 7 2018 11:21:52 (EST)
https://video.foxnews.com/v/5976775955001/?#sp=show-clips
Interesting music for Fox News?
Sound familiar?
Why ‘all of a sudden’ are people talking about the CLINTON FOUNDATION (including whistleblowers and hidden company established to investigate covertly (ex_ABCs))?
Would you ‘go public’ if the investigation was still ongoing?
What happens when you have enough evidence to PROCEED?
What is the benefit of educating the public PRIOR TO proceeding?
COME[Y]
Q

Q Post 2562

Interesting.  [Y] ???  Is Sally Q. Yates going to get thrown under the bus?  Or is Jim Comey’s testimony part of the WHY in answering Q’s questions above?

You decide.

It’s very interesting to see how the press is handling this.

On one end of the reality spectrum, Muh Russia Insider, whoops I mean Soviet MSM Insider, oh, what the heck, let’s go with their Mu Sigma Mu secret name Business Insider makes it look like Trump’s time is up:

https://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-probe-documents-mandafort-cohen-comey-testifies-2018-12

But let’s see what a better source has to say about this (and you are seeing that Q is right – we ARE the media now)….

https://twitter.com/ClandestineRos1/status/1070733798738927617

Look how the frigging SOVIET MEDIA – tool of the Deep State – uses their time delay for narrative setting.  Comey.  WHAT A SPUD.  Wish they would have been smart enough to get a 24 hour delay on Black Hatspell’s testimony on Khashoggi, rather than permanent burial alongside Lindsey Graham’s red pill! 😉

Now compare to NPR, which actually does a decent job this time!  WTF is up with THAT???!!!

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672747032/james-comey-to-testify-before-house-judiciary-committee

BUT WAIT! THERE’S MOAR!

The next post appeared on “pub” and then disappeared – not sure what’s up with that.  But we’re the media now, so we report, you decide.

Fun times!

BUT WAIT THERE’S MOAR!!!

*looks up at flight path and salutes*

OH wait, U can’t C the emoji!  Here it is, Evergreen Everest Sir Edmund! 😉

And me with only one bag of popcorn left!  Time for MOAR!

W

Some would rather be right than believed.

Am I Still a Treeper?

The featured image in this article shows precisely WHY I refused to dissociate myself from the Treehouse.  It is also my challenge to each and every person who posts here, to listen to Q, and listen to Sundance, and NOT to voices of division.
This conversation is exemplary.  Let’s look at it in full.  The thread appears to now be locked – a good idea.


 
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And there we have it.  A single thread that encapsulates the division which Q warned us about.  And yet it is being directed against those who are counseled to avoid division.
How do we overcome this?  Let’s look at what Sundance himself said:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/10/adverse-interests-the-danger-within-the-q-phenomenas-current-messaging/


Adverse Interests – The Danger Within the “Q Phenomena’s” Current Messaging…

Let me start by saying I mean no disrespect to those individuals who enjoy the riddles posted by an unknown entity who writes under the nom de plume “Q”.  However, the time has come where aspects within the well promoted “Q narrative” are now a risk and must be addressed.  Please bear with me….
The baseline – In the aggregate the “Q narrative” has been: there’s a coordinated effort by President Trump and officials to expose, and confront, corrupt entities within the “deep state.”  The essential element within the narrative, as pushed by the “Q” entity, is that President Trump is aware of, and coordinating, some larger plan.
Hopefully that brief baseline summary is not controversial, and most would agree that’s been the structural and purposeful intent of the overall message.
Structurally, and factually, this claim is false.  However, that’s not the problem. Within this theory, that seems to have garnered a considerable following, there is now a danger to the office of the president; and however well-intentioned the theory initially might have been, it urgently needs to stop being spread.
As you have seen recently, yesterday, President Trump is forcefully repeating that he has not had any contact with current Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker.  Part of the reason President Trump has to do this is because this false narrative, the “Q Theory”, has been drum-beaten by well-intentioned supporters.  Many of those supporters, genuinely good people, have believed this coordinated theory.  However, it is false.
Conversely, all of President Trump’s opposition is trying to attach President Trump to the actions and intents of his new Acting Attorney General. The false “Q” narrative helps them.
Currently the Trump opposition, writ large, would love nothing more than to frame the President over taking executive action that puts the Mueller investigation at risk; and thereby attaches him to some form of obstruction.  If people keep pushing the “Q theory” of President Trump orchestrating moves; that narrative is adverse to his actual interests.
That false narrative actually impedes Whitaker from diminishing Mueller as a sword of Damocles over the office of the president.
The opposition to the office of the president desire to have the office of Attorney General in a position of compromise, and subsequent recusal.  This was the reason why there was such a push by that same opposition to force the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; whereby the DOJ is then hamstrung in the ability of the AG to defend the executive.
So long as opposition can rely on, and manipulate, embed (and likely corrupt) DOJ and FBI officials toward their goals, things are in their favor.  If the opposition can no longer work around the AG, their efforts at removing President Trump are more difficult.
If the AAG is both: (A) independent from the White House; and (B) simultaneously looking out for the genuine interests of the executive [note: not mutually exclusive] and confronting historic corrupt behavior, those within the entrenched DC system have a much harder time trying to frame the President out of office.
President Trump’s political and administrative opposition didn’t care about the “Q narrative” (which is false), because it was of no consequence for a bunch of people to mistakenly think that President Trump and Jeff Sessions were coordinating (they weren’t) an effort against the deep state (never happening) while they had the AG recused.  However, with a fully empowered AG that same message (which is false) will be leveraged to oppose any adverse action by Matthew Whitaker; and demand his recusal.
Can you see how the dynamic shifts?
Does that make sense?
This is how the “Q Narrative” now becomes a liability.
I’ve not been confrontational to the game of the “Q riddles” until recently.  To each his own; and most of the stuff is harmless and the community seems to have fun with it. However, once I saw what was predictably going to happen; and strongly sensing Sessions was about to get dispatched; and against a mountain of research, and suspicions, I have gone through about a genuine network of information; I saw the warning signs and began trying to stop the spread of the “Q” virus – at least on this website.
So my message to those loosely connected/tenuously labeled, “former intelligence officials”, ie. those behind the Q message board, is to please stop with the “trust the plan” stuff.
If you need to modify the messaging because you are financially dependent on keeping the game alive, then so be it…. Same request applies to the downstream benefactors… But please modify the narrative to a more factual and substantive one.
[If it helps, soon there will be a reality-based origin for you to modify the riddles]
The key point here is for all of you to please stop pushing a narrative that President Trump is somehow coordinating or influencing an investigative or confrontational outcome.  He isn’t; he never has been; and he will not be in the future.  However, that narrative, false though it always has been, is now a genuine problem.   I am making this request politely and hopefully you can digest the problem as the landscape has changed.
President Trump is spending an inordinate amount of time reaffirming the reality that he has no connection to anything AG Matthew Whitaker has done in the past; or might do in the future.

If “Q riddle originators” and “Q riddle followers” keep pushing this “trust the plan” narrative, in any form – but specifically as it relates to the involvement of the President (which is false), you will actually be hurting the administration; and the larger goal of those who are factually trying to work internally within the corrupt systems to bring the needed change within the institutions.
President Trump will need to confirm a new U.S. Attorney General (Sessions replacement) and likely a new DAG (Rosenstein replacement), as well as a new FBI Director and Deputy in the near future (Wray and Bowditch).  All of them have been Mueller enablers [see here] And, with the FL and AZ senate race results tenuous, there may be a diminishing margin for controversy (aggressive, actual swamp draining candidates) in the nomination process.
Please, and thank you.


 
At first it may seem that Sundance has asked us very nicely to deny what many of us believe – or at least to not talk about it on CTH.  But what do we believe?  Let me state it in a kind of general form, so we are not being evasive by a Snopesism of some kind.  We believe:

  • There is some kind of plan to “drain the swamp”
  • Our VSGPOTUS is at least partially informed of it
  • We are asked to “trust this plan”

These would be the “THREE PILLARS” of the Q Cult, if I may call ourselves that.
There is a plan.  President Trump knows something about it.  We can trust it.
I personally would be a liar if I said I didn’t believe all three parts of this.  Our President would be an IDIOT if this wasn’t true.  And Trump is not an idiot.  It may be politically convenient to pretend it’s not true, but I don’t do that.  In fact, I believe some stuff that makes a lot of people want to kill me, discredit me, shut me up, or all of the above.  THAT stuff is hard.  Believing our President has a plan to drain the swamp?  That’s a no-brainer.
Now – I can certainly go on the Treehouse and not talk about The Three Pillars of the Q Cult, or even HINT at them.  But I can’t drop that belief HERE, or anywhere else, including Twitter.
If THAT is OK with Sundance, then I am still a Treeper.  But that is not my decision.
Now – is it possible to hold the “Pillars of Q” and not allege that President Trump is a criminal who is at the mercy of Bob Mueller?  Particularly on issues of AAG Whitaker?  Well, I think so.  Because I believe the following:

  • President Trump is very, very smart
  • President Trump is always very careful about obeying THE LAW
  • The Plan is mostly if not almost totally not of Trump’s design
  • The Plan is mostly of military and military legal origin
  • The Plan is thoroughly reviewed by lawyers as an ongoing process
  • The Plan is reactive, changeable, ongoing, and intelligent
  • The Plan adapts to President Trump’s desires and suggestions (he IS CiC)
  • President Trump trusts The Plan and adapts to the advice of its designers
  • The Plan is 100% LEGAL and AUTHORIZED
  • Anything Illegal has been carefully SCRUBBED from The Plan
  • Trump is being carefully protected from illegalities or pitfalls
  • If President Trump says something in a tweet, it is TRUE
  • If President Trump says something in a tweet, it was part of The Plan
  • President Trump’s tweets pass by “Q” precisely for this reason
  • President Trump not knowing things, to obey the law, is part of The Plan
  • Absolutely NONE of this falls outside NORMAL ORGANIZATIONAL ETHICS
  • This is exactly how President Obama was protected from illegalities MOST OF THE TIME, but NOT ALWAYS, and THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
  • The Plan deals with stuff that is so far above most people’s pay grades, there are some parts that are known by more ALIENS than HUMANS
  • Sorry – I had to throw that in to demonstrate no limits on secrecy

Does everybody see where I’m going with this?
Now, some people will say I’m just constructing a paranoid fantasy here.  Well, I’m sorry, but….

THIS IS HOW I GO ON VACATION.

My wife plays the part of the military, and my dog plays the part of the aliens.  OK – to be honest, sometimes my WIFE is the VSGPOTUS and I’M the military.  And sometimes the dog…   well, you get the point.
Are we clear?  We are saying Trump is not an idiot, he’s an honest guy, and he plans stuff.  He HIRES people who plan stuff.  Our government has people who plan stuff.  Some of it is secret, but it is all on the up-and-up under TRUMP.
Am I still a Treeper?  Hell yes.
Because I TELL THE TRUTH.  And the TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The End.
W

we-are-qanon
Even my damn dog is Q.  Because we’re honest, well-intended, and we plan.

Post 2221

Q had a “Q&A” today, and one of the questions was – at least from my point of view – a bit unexpected.  OK – VERY unexpected.


Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 98088e No.3094236
Anonymous ID: 5948d8 No.3093831
Q
Are we alone ?
Roswell ?
>>3093831
No.
Highest classification.
Consider the vastness of space.
Q

 
People are already asking a lot of questions about this, and one of the theories (which actually makes a lot of sense) is that it was simply a bandwidth test.  However, I think it may have also been a “believability test”, too.  Probably for a variety of reasons.
Anyway, on Twitter, there was some discussion of it, and I’d like to bring my thoughts here.  I’m not going to be too argumentative about them – this is all very speculative.  But still, I want people to see my thoughts, which are likely going to be tamped down BIG-TIME on Twitter.
For this reason, I’ll present it as IMAGES first, of each tweet, which can’t be removed by Twitter.  I’ll include the actual Tweets as an appendix.  People can click on those and go to them, if they are still there.


 
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Next, somebody responds with an earlier Q post on the topic.
QETI2
Somebody responded to THAT with a “Got it!”
QETI3
And THAT is where I jumped in.
My thoughts will be hidden on Twitter – nobody will see them.  That’s why I’m bringing them here – to share with people who can appreciate them.  Not necessarily agree.  Just something to think about.
Here we go.
QETI4
Hopefully that is clear.  To put it more bluntly, Q sometimes misleads extremely well – especially the other side, but doesn’t just outright lie.  I find it difficult to reconcile the idea that this is disinformation with Q’s normal style – particularly when science (in my opinion) agrees with the idea of pervasive life in the universe (which also, in my opinion, argues for God).
I then began expanding on that.
QETI5
Nevertheless, I do think it was a bandwidth test.
QETI6
Now I want to get into why Q’s final answer is even more convincing to me.  When you see “AO”, that is my abbreviation for “Alpha and Omega”.
QETI7
What I’m talking about there is an aspect of the “anthropic principle”, which basically says “isn’t it weird that the universe seems so suited for humans?”, and scaling it up to the “isn’t it weird that Star Trek is even possible?” level.
Many argue that the anthropic principle is a tautology anyway, and I certainly see that point.  However, if one simply accepts the idea that the universe we experience is optimized toward intelligence for the reason of the tautology, then it becomes highly predictive at the same time, and the more and more we see it borne out, the more it tends to argue for intelligence as a kind of first principle of the universe.
Hmmmm.  That sounds like something.  Some old thought of mankind.  Where is Descartes?  Wake him up – he would be interested in this stuff.
Anyway, now it’s time to think of how mind-blowing all of THAT really is.
QETI8
Great Awakening actually BEING a “great awakening”?  Wow.  Could be.
But now I don’t want to provoke arguments, so I’m going to let the people who are going pale in the face have an out.  Here is where that starts.
QETI9
Q has stated multiple times that “they” came to the chans for a reason.  Being “first to be able to believe” freaky stuff is very likely part of that.
Now I wrap up with the “WHEW” post.  “Hey there – don’t worry – maybe only a few believe me – I think that’s what they wanted.”
That will give people PROPER pause – easy to reject – easy to accept – your call.
QETI10
There you have it.  The moment I believed Q about aliens.  I was only believing what I already believed, but I believed that Q was telling me the truth.  I believe this may actually be the first moment of official public disclosure, so I took a picture.
W

JamesCoburncafescene
“I wonder if this was why…. her turn…. interesting.  I think there may be more to this story than what’s in this newspaper.”

PS – there is also – via YouTube – considerable DISINFORMATION about aliens. Because the YouTube Brin/Wojcicki Red Diaper Socialist Club targets me individually with certain types of disinformation via their product, and particularly about aliens, and because I’m aware of it, I have reconstructed the Hillary left’s agenda on that issue VERY clearly.  It is definitely Satanic and atheistic, which is a bit of a contradiction in terms, but it’s 100% Cabal.
The message is BAD HUMANS who DESERVE CONTROL.  BAD AMERICAN MILITARY which is EVIL and TRUMP.  We need GOOD SOCIALISM.
That is not the Q message.  THANK GOD.
 

APPENDIX I – Twitter Posts

https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1042609439579271170
 
https://twitter.com/Iron_Surfer/status/1042614631632527360
 

 

 

 

FIN