“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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AND THESE FIVE WORDS FOR OUR LOYAL VSGPOTUS…..
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE the DRAINING of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
REMEMBER….
Russiagate is now MUHRUSSIAGATE.
This guy went after FBI corruption & ties to mob in Boston. Stepped in to help clear 4 innocent men convicted of murder. Whitey Bulger case. Hooray.
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If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Cesc Vilà of Epic Soul Factory, titled ‘Everdream’:
In searching for tree pictures, sometimes I run across trees engaging in rude gestures…and this one seems fitting for the message I’d like to send to the lawless Dems:
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I would like to add this as a Tribute To Testosterone:
I spent two days working on this post, and just trashed the prior, many-page version.
WHY, YOU MIGHT ASK.
Simple. Because I was beating around the bush. I was not getting to the POINT.
THE POINT: A town full of Trump-supporting Republicans in MAGA country was TRICKED into funding the GREEN NEW DEAL.
I don’t want to RAT OUT all the players here – but I do want the M.O. to be known to all of MAGA and the White Hats. Thus, I’m leaving things somewhat anonymous. But I am figuring that the White Hats and Trump administration will quickly figure out who I’m talking about.
A CASE STUDY by the GOP should prevent it from happening again.
It is probably too late for the Republican town in question. Residents of that city have THREE WEEKS LEFT to “opt out” of their aggregation scam. Most will not. The SCAM was successfully pulled off. A Republican city in the Trump-supporting rust belt is now going to pay for Soros-backed “green energy” with their (ultimately) higher energy bills. They will THWART the Trump agenda, HELP China, and very likely fall for the NEXT scam from the Democrats.
The great IRONY is that people voted for exactly the opposite. They wanted LOWER ENERGY BILLS, with some incidental support for “clean energy”. That is what it LOOKED LIKE when they were VOTING FOR IT.
AH-AH-AH! Wishful thinking! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU VOTE FOR, REPUBLICANS.
What they GOT – revealed in the FINE PRINT on the LAST PAGE of the FINAL NOTIFICATION – was 100% WIND energy, endorsed by a TIDES-FOUNDATION-APPROVED NGO in San Francisco, and – oh – it’s going to be somewhat cheaper because the whole city was forced into it.
THAT is your “aggregation” savings. The same savings that the Soviet Union got when they “aggregated” to a single version of every consumer product.
That is the REALITY of “aggregation” when the SOURCE (100% green energy) is LOCKED IN at the beginning of the equation (my guess), unbeknownst to voters. And the energy company – which obviously makes more money on people paying extra for “boutique energy” – is ALL IN on the scam.
How do I know that 100% Green New Deal energy was locked in from BEFORE THE INITIATIVE was ever sleazily (mis)represented to voters? FOLLOW THE CANDIDATES. This GND-supporting scam was planned LONG BEFORE IT HAPPENED, in my opinion.
See how that works? Technically, it’s ALMOST the same thing as what people THOUGHT they voted for, but there is a CATCH. It’s just a matter of PRIORITIES which were not spelled out clearly during the SALE. People ASSUMED that “cheaper” might have some chance against “greener”. But by letting people ASSUME that wrong idea, there was BAIT and SWITCH and here we are.
The voters of the city were SOLD on wording, repeated OVER and OVER, in a very particular weaponized order: cheap first and clean second. People ASSUMED that this meant something – that “cheap first and clean second” is what they were getting. That CHEAPER wasn’t necessarily subordinate to GREENER.
Never ASS U ME.
Sorry. Read the fine print. On the last page. Of the final notification. A month before people are automatically opted in. THEN – if you’re sufficiently suspicious of SOCIALISM – you might “do the math” and realize that it doesn’t add up for “cheap first and clean second”, which was merely implied and not STATED CLEARLY. No. It adds up for “CLEAN” FIRST and cheap maybe, which FITS THE WORDING LEGALLY.
It is “green energy” and then there is some savings because the whole city got roped into it.
CLEAR?
Trust me – this initiative could have NEVER passed if the people behind it had been completely honest and transparent about their intentions with the ENTIRE ELECTORATE.
The beauty of the scam is that people were TOLD what they were going to get, but careful wording and sneaky psychology were weaponized to let people imply things that were not actually true, and were never contradicted clearly. Cynically, there is likely no recourse, because I will bet the lawyers made sure it is all within the letter of the law. “By the book”, as OBAMA would say.
Socialists. I know we’re not supposed to hate them, but Lord, it is hard not to do it.
There is some possibility that a sufficiently smart CLASS ACTION SUIT might succeed in striking this down, but I’m not counting on it. Better to just WARN the Trump administration that THIS is how the Democrats are now fighting at the local level.
Of course, maybe the DOJ has something to say about this, too.
Yeah. SNEAKY DEMOCRATS. This is WHY scams work – because the MARK is afraid to go to the COPS on it. They all wanted SOMETHING FOR NOTHING – cheaper energy bills simply for a VOTE – and they got TAKEN.
Better, in my opinion, to LEARN from it – and make certain that Republicans realize a sad new truth:
“AGGREGATION” is CODE for “SOCIALIZED“.
Energy aggregation which is SECONDARY TO SOURCE is a TRICK to sell you on SOCIALIZED GREEN NEW DEAL ENERGY.
Now – I could go into the specifics of WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN and WHY. But rather than do that openly, I have decided that it’s better to let the WHITE HATS – and particularly the WHITE HAT LAWYERS and WHITE HAT POLS – take care of this one.
QUIETLY.
STEALTHILY.
CLEANLY.
Let me give people a HINT.
The problem is RADICAL RINGERS in CITY COUNCILS. I watched this one from the beginning, and it is CLOWNSVILLE, in my humble opinion. Something is very NOT RIGHT with how this happened.
There. Under 1000 words. Let’s hope that the RIGHT PEOPLE see this.
W
Marketing. Yup. He called it. Media. Marketing. Weaponized psychology. OH. And LAWFARE.
If you want to end the crisis at not just OUR border, but ALL borders, don’t just fight the THEORY of Cloward and Piven – fight the PRACTICE of Chicago Marxists Coleman and Lozano. It is time to bring the TRUMP DOCTRINE of ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY to CHICAGO, and then to THE WORLD.
Long Version:
Let’s talk about Glenn Beck. Yes – THAT Glenn Beck.
Yes, the intermittently lucid Glenn Beck who was against Donald Trump before he was for Donald Trump.
You may know him as “Cheeto-Face”.
I have to say – for a man who has unearthed SO MUCH amazing information about communist subversion, Glenn Beck understands almost nothing – PERSONALLY – about how to fight off communist discreditation. The man may be a great theoretician, but in PRACTICE he has the “situational awareness” of a toddler.
And that is exactly where I am going with this post – THEORY and PRACTICE.
One of the best parts of a “liberal arts education” – back when African Revolutionary Basket-Weaving As A Response To White Nationalism was a JOKE on campus, and not what might appear to be an actual CLASS, is that libertarian science-loving students like me were forced to read everything from The Bible to Mao Tse-Tung – as he was called back then.
Without getting distracted by what has happened to education on campus, let me talk about that little reading of CHAIRMAN MAO that I was forced to endure. Seriously, it was one of the best things I was ever forced to read. Dry as a bone, shockingly bureaucratic next to more “fun” authors, and absolutely the opposite of “rabble-rousing”, Mao’s essential work On Practice seemed very far from dangerous. Indeed, it advocated for exactly what I was learning in science – the virtue of empiricism and the importance of the feedback loop of REALITY to change THEORY. It wasn’t terribly profound – perhaps because I already loved BOTH the chalkboard and the laboratory – but it MADE SENSE.
Why is this important? – You might ask.
Back to GLENN BECK.
This YouTube video by Glenn Beck is ESSENTIAL STUFF. Don’t watch it YET – come back to it after I discuss it a bit more.
Glenn Beck, in one of his more LUCID moments, MANY years ago, taught me about Cloward-Piven theory – one of the most profoundly useful concepts in understanding and FIGHTING the strategies of modern communism.
Cloward-Piven is actually a very simple bad idea about intentionally cascading socialist failure of social support networks as a way of achieving socialist revolution. It’s a truly diabolical idea – it’s like saying “create rust to create more rust faster, until the part breaks”.
Um – yeah. Sounds like a plan. Maybe in VENEZUELA.
The idea – in one simple form – is to encourage over-reliance and over-enrollment in the social support programs of the Western welfare state, to make the welfare state stop working, so that eventually there is the massive level of CHAOS needed for real, Soviet, Maoist, hard-core, socialist take-over. It’s basically a way of “leaning in” to COMMUNISM.
You know – like VENEZUELA.
Now – here is where things get interesting.
Just like in good, honest science, the BAD SCIENCE of scientific socialism (which is what they sometimes call it) was able to learn – by kangaroo trial and bloody error – that the FEEDBACK LOOP of observing practice helped to guide NEW THEORY to continuously improve practice. This is Mao stating a rather obvious recursive correction to dopey, sad, millions-of-bodies-to-burn socialism, but in a way that was both cunningly specific and convincing to his fellow communists.
NOW – what Glenn Beck has demonstrated with his new video (and THANK YOU, Gail Combs, for bringing it to my attention) – is NOT ONLY that Glenn is LUCID AGAIN, but that he is ON THE MONEY as to where we need to be fighting. This is his Cloward-Piven warning again, but with LESS TIME TO ACT.
EVERY AMERICAN who cares about the future of this country needs to watch this Glenn Beck video.
You will get MANY great ideas out of this video. Here are just some of them.
the “immigration crisis” is the brainchild of Chicago communists
Soros money is behind this stuff ONCE AGAIN
Beck predicted where we are now – pay attention to the other details of his predictions
this is a WORLD-WIDE problem – “THEY” are using it everywhere to destroy national government as a concept
United States
Britain
Europe
Asia
the United Nations is heavily involved
a lot more – just watch the video
There are THOUSANDS of jumping-off points for me that Beck is showing us here.
The idea that a global crisis is coming through the commie bottleneck of Chicago is PROFOUND. But the fact is, the globalist socialists are “cascading failure” through migration almost everywhere around the planet that we look.
International cascading of failure through migration is a HUGE advance in the PRACTICE of Cloward-Piven over the original THEORY. They are using the “cheap solution” in one country (let our problems go) to destabilize another. And they are using ISLAM and the UN as co-conspirators very, very, very smartly.
Once you see that national short-term self-interest is made inherently mutually contradictory among nations through allowing emigration as a “fix” (see Mao’s book “On Contradiction”), then you see the immediate “set-up” for the “Global Compact for Migration“, which then serves to offer up “global control” as the solution to a problem caused by Communist fire-starting.
SMART and EVIL.
Note that the alleged “solution” [with a lovely Islamic star logo, too] is even worded “for” migration, because the same people allegedly offering to “control” migration cannot even dare to say ONE unkind word AGAINST it. AND – very important – it is absolutely clear to me that this “solution” has no intention of solving the problem, which was in large part foisted on the world by the very same people who allege to offer a fix.
SO – like I said – you MUST see this video.
And where does that lead us? Back to SUNDANCE.
Some people like to call what Trump does, to make people live up to their responsibilities, a kind of “Alinsky” technique – specifically Rule #4 of “Rules for Radicals”.
However, the exact same thing could just as easily be framed as an Old Testament biblical lesson about taking responsibility, and making sure that OTHERS do, too. I prefer the latter. Trump is getting SOLOMON on their asses, and it FEELS GOOD, MAN.
SO – my fix is simple. We need to start putting MEGATONS OF SUNLIGHT on the COCKROACHES who are causing the problems. And if that sunlight penetrates deeply, it is going to penetrate inside religious communities.
Now – before I talk about various coreligionists and other Bullwinkle-minded do-gooders who enable the migration nuttiness, we have to deal with the term “useful idiots“.
Christ himself instructed us not to call people idiots, even when they are. As this leaves us in a bit of a quandary with regard to the classic communist term “useful idiots”, we need a quality substitute. Therefore, I will use the term “lovable chumps“, which the reader is instructed to equate with the proper communist term “useful idiots”.
Wolf Moon, occasional lovable chump
Back to sunlight. We need sunlight on both the NASTY hardcore atheistic communists orbiting around and infiltrating the religious communities, as well as the NICEY-NICE communist useful idiotlovable chump collaborators inside the religious communities. We have to use SUNLIGHT THERAPY on the entire infection.
NO SMASHING OF COCKROACHES ALLOWED.
I want to be crystal clear about that. No violence. This is a PACIFIST EFFORT.
Pacifists against pacifists. Kinda like KRAKEN against KRAKEN. If you know the awesome bad movie to which I refer.
I happen to have multiple religious affiliations that are under a fascinating variety of “migrant-crazy” delusions. I see this stuff not only from the outside, but from the INSIDE. These migrant-crazy religious lunatics are kind, good-hearted, loving people – brothers and sisters – but they are easily FLEECED by true communists, both inside and outside their religious institutions. They are, quite literally, useful idiots chumps. They are very lovable idiots chumps, but they are idiots chumps all the same. And in many cases they are SMART DUMB USEFUL IDIOTS CHUMPS, if that makes any sense.
Kinda like that crafty toddler who figures out how to get a modern car into neutral.
It’s time for us to take the car keys and gently but firmly say “You can’t roll over your brothers and sisters in the driveway playing LET’S DRIVE MOMMY’S CAR.“
We have to get this planet back into PARK on migration.
NOW, just because we are trying to STOP bad stuff, doesn’t mean bad stuff won’t happen, as we shed light on the communists behind this stuff. But it won’t be US doing it. It will be THEM.
We are dealing with COMMUNISTS, and these people are notorious for setting up and carrying out false flags. The people at the very center of this crisis – who have been pointed out so kindly by Glenn Beck – are THEMSELVES Marxists. They may or may not be of the self-hoaxing variety, but trust me – they have FRIENDS and ALLIES who are. Just think of third-generation red diaper hoaxer Jussie Smollett and Chicago, and you know what we are dealing with.
And the Jussie hoaxers are just the beginning. Add the murderous KGB-CIA Clowns, and our next VEGAS, SANDY HOOK, CHARLESTON, CHARLOTTESVILLE or PARKLAND will likely be of the “immigrant” variety. I’m just warning you now.
I would be remiss if I didn’t let you know that I have detected real Clown and Five Eyes activity in the “migrant crazy” religious community. I believe they are fighting dirty, too.
And then there is THIS – which likely has a lot of bearing on the LAS VEGAS MURDERS.
Are you with me? Good. If we are going to CONFRONT the useful idiots lovable chumps, we need to be as CLEAN as they are. But THINGS COULD STILL GET ROUGH. I anticipate some long nights deconstructing and debunking false flags.
The commies are THIS | CLOSE to getting what they want.
Yeah, maybe so. But WE have something they don’t.
DISCERNMENT. Discernment that is a GIFT from GOD.
Let’s use it.
W
With DISCERNMENT, it’s NOT EVEN FAIR.
UPDATE
I wrote this post a few weeks ago and put it on hold. I am choosing to finally post it NOW, because I have just noticed, thanks to a comment by our own FLEP, that our VSGPOTUS is launching an ingenious action against the agendas of Cloward-Piven and Coleman-Lozano.
Check it out! -W
The @realDonaldTrump administration considering reversing long-standing policy to make it easier to deport US. legal permanent residents who have used public benefits, part of an effort to restrict immigration by low-income people, reports @yjtorbati.
Draft regulation by @The @TheJusticeDept, seen by @Reuters, "dramatically expands the category of people who could be subject to deportation on the grounds that they use benefits."
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
OUR FIVE WORDS TO HIM:
WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
NOW….
THREE THINGS TONIGHT:
1.
Although I now have FOUR NIGHTS a week covered by authors (other than myself) who want to do Daily Threads, as follows, I am still looking for more.
Monday – Wheatietoo
Tuesday – Wolf Moon
Wednesday – Wolf Moon
Thursday – Wolf Moon
Friday – ForGodandCountry
Saturday – Wheatietoo
Sunday – ThinkThinkThink
If you think you would like to take one of the remaining “Wolf” days (T, W. Th, meaning you post the night before at midnight), please let me know. I am encouraged by the great reception that our Daily Thread authors are getting, and would love to add one or two new Daily Thread authors to take maximum advantage of this effect.
You need to be US-based, operating from a secure home computer (not on a roaming laptop or mobile device), and otherwise pass somewhat rougher vetting than even Wolf’s Extreme Vetting which posters normally pass. Some upstanding interested people in deep blue zones may simply be put on hold until enough of the swamp is IN JAIL, at which point American security will automatically tighten.
The reasons I am now being a bit more cautious about (a) location of authors, and (b) making sure that this place could run smoothly if I were, say, indisposed due to some kind of LAWFARE plot, has to do with both items 2 and 3. I believe that my strongest earlier suspicions about DOJ and FBI under Rosenstein are now confirmed. More on that below.
So if you’re interested, please let me know.
2.
There is an article in Human Events about AG Barr that your really need to read. HOWEVER, WordPress goes NUTS if the URL “embeds”, so here is a masked link:
I will also embed the URL at the END of this post, where it can’t mess anything up.
This article explains my theory on Barr, Mueller and Rosenstein in LEGAL terms.
To ME, it confirms that Rosey is a black hat who has more successfully than anybody masked himself. He was willing to let OTHERS decide Trump’s fate, once he created the corrupt Mueller process. This is how they created plausible deniability of malicious intent. Rosey threw the magic potato that turned into a grenade and said “That’s OK, just follow the process for throwing potatoes and all will be well. See? I agree with Bill Barr now that he’s my boss.”
It’s LAWFARE. I can SEE IT. Others did, too, and that is why they booted Sessions to get somebody to END THE LAWFARE based on BAD LAW (the subsection in question, which will eventually go to SCOTUS, and which is the basis of Democrat obstruction traps).
I believe that the NEED to bring in Barr is related to the “change” in “Trust Sessions” – that there was a need to stop “trusting” him and replace him. Basically, a CHANGE in the plan. In my opinion, people RIGHTLY stopped trusting Rosey, but they needed to remove SESSIONS to get past Rosey the Rook, who had castled with King Robert of Mueller.
Whatever. Water under the bridge, but WE were pawns in it. WE had to go, so that Trump supporters who liked Sessions would get out of the way of FALLING SESSIONS, who pretty much fell on his sword.
3.
The Democrats are extremely serious about 2020. I am seeing plot investments on a scale which DWARFS anything I have seen before.
I believe that the Democrats and black hats have LOST access to NSA data on me, and that this explains why there has been a relatively large degree of calm in my life. HOWEVER, I have now discovered how they intend to remedy that situation, and it’s fairly ingenious. Independent discovery of the same by the White Hats will validate.
This REEEEEE-ATTLE MARXIST MAYHEM MAY DAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
WE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
NOW….
Some of you may have bad associations with “May Day”, as a day when the COMMIES come out to make noise…
Which in reality looks more like THIS…..
Although I’m sure you’d much rather be HERE…..
Joey Gibson, who is running for Sen. Maria Cantwell’s seat, addresses the crowd at the Patriot Prayer rally at Westlake Park on Tuesday. (Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)
So NOT EVERYBODY who shows up at an activity on MAY DAY is a communist…..
But still…….
Seattle women Melissa Braddock center and Jenny Domoto far left in Washington D.C. at the Women’s March on Jan. 21,2017. (Photo by Melissa Braddock)
OK – admittedly that is neither May Day nor is it IN Reeattle, BUT that is the kind of people the cops have to deal with.
Enjoy your REEATTLE MAY DAY. Marxist Mayhem or not.
And remember to watch out for those White Nationalists. Because even the black ones are extremely dangerous to our democracy and cause a lot of mayhem.
Well, maybe just when nobody else is looking, or in another universe. 😉
This FOUR AND THIRTY THURSDAY [editorial note – yeah, it’s actually TUESDAY – LOL – and so it goes….] open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
WE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Beware of more CONTROLLED OPPOSITION coming back, and bringing “Charlottesville” to a town near you. They are going to FEED GARBAGE to Sleepy Joe.
Yeah, it’s just bullshit, but the entire DNC-CIA media is behind it.
I really despise the LIES of the Obamanazis and their white identity propaganda spawn – the FOILS of the commies to gain power, or to force the racists on us. Just like the evil communist KPD – their predecessors – did in Germany.
WICKED.
A POX on all these racists, PROG and ANTIPROG.
Martin Luther King, Jr. says they’re all wrong.
If it comes down to it, it is better to be with HIM than with THEM.
W
I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE RACISM OF THE PROGRESSIVE COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS, NOR WILL I ACCEPT THE MIRROR IMAGE RACISM OF THEIR CREATION, THESE BOGUS WHITE SUPREMACISTS WITH WHICH THE GLOBALIST PROGRESSIVES SMEAR GOOD, PATRIOTIC AMERICANS.
The shooting at the synagogue in Poway has interesting details
that we might want to keep discussing as we ponder
the aims, successes, and yes, failures of the puppet masters
behind these despicable attacks.
Rachel Stoltzfoos | Staff Reporter at DailyCaller.com
The man who fired a semi-automatic weapon inside the Chabad of Poway synagogue in San Diego on Saturday froze, dropped his gun and sprinted to his car when he saw Oscar Stewart come barreling toward him, yelling so loud the priest at a neighboring church could hear.
“Get down!” Stewart yelled, according to his wife and others who were at the scene. “You motherfucker! I’m going to kill you!”
Others who were there later told him it sounded like four or five people were shouting. He thinks maybe an angel was standing behind him and speaking through his voice. When the shooter ran, he immediately gave chase.
Stewart, 51, told The Daily Caller on Sunday he doesn’t remember any conscious thought from the moment he heard the gun shots until it was all over — he just acted on instinct to stop the shooter and prevent him from leaving so he couldn’t hurt more people somewhere else. The Iraq combat veteran said his military training kicked in.
“I knew I had to be within five feet of this guy so his rifle couldn’t get to me,” Stewart said. “So I ran immediately toward him, and I yelled as loud as I could. And he was scared. I scared the hell out of him.”
Stewart served in the Navy in explosive ordnance disposal from 1990 to 1994, then enlisted in the Army in 2001 because of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
“Looking back, it was kind of a crazy idea to do, but I did it.” He was deployed to Iraq in 2003 and left the military in 2004, as a staff sergeant. He’s now in construction work.
When the gunman opened fire, he was in the back of the synagogue. By the time he got to the lobby, the shooter had killed one woman, blown the finger off of a rabbi, and injured two others.
“I heard gunshots,” Stewart said. “And everybody got up and started trying to get out the back door, so I — for whatever reason — I didn’t do that. I ran the other way. I ran towards the gun shots.”
“When I came around the corner into the lobby area, I saw the individual with a gun, and he fired two rounds. And I yelled at him and I must have yelled very loud, and he looked at me, and I must have had a really mean look on my face or something, because he immediately dropped his weapon and turned and ran. And then I gave chase.”
Stewart said he chased him all the way out to his car and began pounding on it — the shooter had managed to lock himself in. When Stewart saw him reach for a rifle, he punched the side of the car as hard as he could, intending to figure out a way to drag him out of the car. That’s when a Border Patrol agent who attends the synagogue came running out to the parking lot, yelling for Stewart to get down because he had a gun.
Stewart says this man may have saved his life and pointed to his use of a civilian’s gun as evidence that gun control isn’t the answer to these kinds of tragedies. Stewart was off-duty and was apparently handed the weapon by someone else on the scene.
“It takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun,” he told the Caller.
The agent fired several rounds into the lower part of the vehicle, intending to disable it, but the shooter managed to drive away. The two of them then grabbed a phone from someone and called the police to report his license plate. The shooter later turned himself in.
After he sped off, Stewart ran back into the synagogue and found a woman he knew, 60-year-old Lori Gilbert Kaye, unresponsive on the floor in the lobby. He began CPR and continued trying to bring her back to life as a couple of doctors arrived and began to assist him. She didn’t make it. The two had talked occasionally, and he remembers her as a passionate and kind woman.
“She had different political views, so we had interesting discussions when we talked,” he said. “We didn’t just talk about the weather. It was kind of cool. She was a very loving woman.”
Stewart considers her the real hero. Eyewitnesses said she jumped in front of the rabbi to save his life.
“People in the aftermath here have been saying it’s important to be strong and defend ourselves. I also think it’s important to know that being strong and defending ourselves requires a lot of sacrifice too.”
“I don’t know if I consciously made the choice to potentially sacrifice myself,” he added. “But I did. And this lady, she stood and she jumped in front of the shooter and she saved the rabbi’s life. When somebody said I was a hero, I’m like, she was a hero. I just did it instinctively, like an animal. There was no conscious decision. I just did it.”
He may not call himself a hero, but Stewart believes his actions effectively stopped the shooter. He doesn’t think reports of the shooter’s gun jamming as the reason he fled are likely to be true, because he was using a semi-automatic rifle. “Full automatic weapons will jam,” he said. “Semi-automatic weapons do not jam.” He thinks maybe the shooter had emptied his magazine. Whatever the case, the shooter let the slung weapon drop and fled.
“He was in the act of shooting when I saw him,” Stewart said. “When I yelled at him he turned and looked at me, and he like froze. And then the look on his face was one of amazement at first, and then one of fear. He saw me coming, and I was ready to do whatever I had to do to stop him.”
For his part, Stewart doesn’t attribute the shooter’s actions to a larger agenda and was reluctant to connect him to a larger political context. He doesn’t blame President Donald Trump and expressed hope that people don’t try to blame anyone else for the man’s actions. “He was an individual acting alone,” he said.
“If you’re ignorant and you don’t know what people are like, you don’t know that I’m a person just like you. I go to work every day in a manual labor job. I’m not some, you know – supposedly he said in his manifesto that the Jews control this and that — I don’t control anything. I go to work just like you every day. He didn’t know that.”
“If he had gotten to know me, he would know that I’m a great person, that I’m a nice guy, that I’m a very caring person,” he continued. “My apprentices — they all love me. They say that I’m the best teacher in the world, you know, that I care, that I try to teach them, and if he had known any of these people, like the lady Lori who died. She would go give Easter baskets to kids and that’s not even a Jewish thing, you know. … She was just a warm person.”
If anything’s to blame, he says it’s social media and the increasingly disconnected world we find ourselves in. “The whole media thing — people don’t get to know people, and they get to sit in a cocoon, and sit and make opinions on what somebody writes. It’s not good. We need to interact more.”
“The most important thing I want to share is that we need to know each other,” he said. “If you make an opinion on anyone, you need to know what they’re about, and who they are. You can’t generalize and say every blue person is evil because they’re blue. That’s ridiculous.”
The funeral service for Kaye is on Monday. He expects the synagogue will be totally packed.
Wow! #Poway Chabad Rabbi had asked border patrol agent who took down the Synagogue shooter to pray armed – just in case. In doing so, they averted an even greater catastrophe! The agent only recently discovered his Jewish roots.https://t.co/taCgwSj8fQ
POWAY, California — Jonathan Morales, an armed off-duty US Customs and Border Patrol agent who recently discovered his Jewish roots, was among the worshipers at Chabad of Poway on Saturday when John Earnest entered the synagogue near San Diego during Passover services and began shooting. The 19-year-old gunman killed Lori Gilbert-Kaye, 60, and wounded three people: Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein, 8-year-old Noya Dahan and her uncle, Almog Peretz. “Morales recently discovered his Jewish roots. He would travel three and a half hours from [the California town of] El Centro to pray with us at our shul,” Goldstein told media at a Sunday press conference outside the synagogue. “He felt this was his house of worship. And many times I said, ‘Jonathan, you work for the border patrol. Please arm yourself when you are here; we never know when we will need it.’” US President Donald Trump spoke with Goldstein on Sunday and took to Twitter to praise the rabbi and Morales, writing: “He may have been off duty but his talents for Law Enforcement weren’t!”
Sincerest THANK YOU to our great Border Patrol Agent who stopped the shooter at the Synagogue in Poway, California. He may have been off duty but his talents for Law Enforcement weren’t!
As for why there weren’t any active duty guards at the synagogue, in an earlier interview with CNN Goldstein said, “Unfortunately, we couldn’t afford to have an armed security officer at every service, so whenever we had extra help, we were grateful for it.” In a moment that Goldstein referred to as “miraculous,” Earnest’s gun jammed, and congregant Oscar Stewart, a 51-year-old Army veteran, and Morales attempted to subdue the gunman. Morales was also able to open fire and give pursuit. After Earnest fled the building, Morales followed in his own vehicle and shot and hit Earnest’s car. Earnest soon turned himself in to law enforcement. On Sunday, Goldstein, his two hands in fresh blue bandages, gave a detailed recounting of Saturday’s harrowing shooting in Poway, a suburban town just north of San Diego. “I was preparing for my sermon, I walked out of the sanctuary and into the lobby and I saw my dear friend Lori Kaye,” said Goldstein. “I walked into the banquet hall to wash my hands, walked two or three footsteps and I heard a loud bang.” That bang was the sound of the first shots fired by Earnest, a college student who entered the Chabad House undetected amid a flow of mourners who were gathering for Yizkor, the traditional memorial service held on the final day of Passover. “I turned around and saw something indescribable,” Goldstein continued. “Here is a young man standing with a rifle pointing right at me. He had sunglasses on. I couldn’t see his eyes, I couldn’t see his soul.” The rabbi said that when he saw the shooter he initially froze, then raised his hands to cover his face. Two of his fingers were blown off; one was reattached by surgeons at Palomar Medical Center in San Diego late Saturday. Gilbert-Kaye, whom relatives and friends on Saturday described as a woman of unconditional love and unbounded generosity, was the only fatality of Earnest’s mass shooting. Goldstein took several minutes to thank San Diego County law enforcement and to praise the wellspring of warmth and support that the local community has offered in light of the tragedy.
A chain of miracles
In a remarkable series of events, the rabbi and a handful of congregants were able to save a group of children playing in the adjacent banquet hall, preventing a full-fledged massacre. “I ran [to gather the children],” Goldstein says. “My granddaughter, who is four and a half years old, saw her grandpa with a bleeding hand. She saw me shouting, ‘Get out! Get out!’ She didn’t deserve to see her grandfather like that.” Aided by Peretz, an Israeli war veteran who was also at Chabad of Poway with his family Sunday, Goldstein was able to usher the children out of the banquet hall with the shooter in pursuit. But in what Goldstein referred to as a “miracle,” Earnest’s gun jammed. Even while Morales was still on Earnest’s trail, congregants — who had been gathered in the sanctuary and would have made easy targets for Earnest had his gun not jammed — fled to Chabad’s front entrance. Goldstein’s hand was bleeding badly and his two fingers were dangling by cartilage. “I grabbed a prayer shawl,” he said, wrapped his wounds, and stood on a chair to address his congregation. “I said, ‘I gotta do something,’” he said. “I said to our congregation: ‘Am Yisrael chai [The People of Israel live]. We are a Jewish nation that will stand tall and we will not let anyone or anything take us down.’”
Farewell to an ‘angel’
“Lori took the bullet for all of us. She died to protect all of us. She didn’t deserve to die,” Goldstein said. Gilbert-Kaye was one of the congregation’s oldest and most devoted members, the rabbi told media. A former employee of Wells Fargo, she was instrumental in helping Chabad secure the loan for the building in the early 1990s. She and her husband Howard were so close with the rabbi and his wife that two weeks ago they flew to New York City for Goldstein’s youngest daughter’s wedding, and danced together with the bride.
Roneet Lev, friend of Chabad of Poway shooting victim Lori Gilbert-Kaye, April 28, 2019. (Debra Kamin/Times of Israel)
Her generosity and kindness was lauded on Sunday by Roneet Lev, who was at the Chabad of Poway to mourn. Lev described herself as Kaye’s best friend. “Lori Kaye is an angel on this planet,” Lev said. “She’s touched many lives in her own life. Not just in this community but throughout the entire world.” Describing a woman who always carried gifts cards and greeting cards to offer as presents and who would regularly purchase extra coffees and donuts for homeless people on the street, Lev explained that Kaye was at Chabad of Poway to say the first Kaddish mourner’s prayer for her mother, who had recently died. Kaye’s daughter Hannah lives in Los Angeles and had driven down to be with her mother for the service. Lev offered hope and optimism as she spoke of her friend. “Even in this horrible, painful event, we know good will come out of it,” Lev said. “Lori is known for bringing out the good in people. And look at these flowers. Look at this law enforcement. Look at the good people of San Diego. Lori is now bringing them together.”
p.s., another article about the shooting from a local paper was originally posted with some odd wording that cast some shadows on the synagogue’s use of DHS funds to strengthen security. The second and third versions fixed this gaff and added a quote from the local ADL spokesperson.
Oh, VERY IMPORTANT!
The “AR” in AR-15 stands for ArmaLite, NOT assault rifle. This is a point we need to be making with everyone that we talk about such things with. Continue reading “Be Like Lions, Not Lambs”→
As part of a new, long-term theme like the “VLWC” (Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy) series, I’m going to help people see long-term commie moves with a “Strategery” series. I love stealing this word, because the people in the Bush camp who adopted it as their version of “Deplorables” clearly had little understanding of the long-term strategy of the communists who manipulated them so readily.
Our “strategery” will put theirs to shame. And to think THEY opposed Trump. Ridiculous.
AND logic.
LONG-TERM thinking.
UNCERTAINTY as a way of life.
These things will slowly bring us into levels of understanding that makes the either/or, short-term-thinking, implication-as-fake-certainty FAKE NEWS absolutely useless. I repeat these ideas differently.
Life is not either/or, and getting you to think that way is a TRICK.
Life is not short-term. Getting you to see and respond to the short-term, by long-term thinkers, is a TRICK.
Life is uncertain. Getting you to NEED certainty when there is no certainty, is a TRICK.
We begin today’s lesson with a Q drop from yesterday.
Much of the Q movement is going to concentrate on what I regard as the chump change of this drop – the odd capitalization of every word, and the splitting of “household” into HouseHold. Trust me – our buddy Q has some awesome messages in there for the SB2 types. However, that is THEIR bag, not ours.
Happy hunting, cryptogram solvers.
WE, in contrast, are going to get all Bezmenov on this one.
Several parts of the article are highly relevant:
The subtitle:
Hannigan oversaw a more open approach at GCHQ after the Snowden revelations exposed mass surveillance by the agency
His sudden resignation – he informed staff just hours before making this decision public – prompted speculation that it might be related to British concerns over shared intelligence with the US in the wake of Donald Trump becoming president.
The key point here is that SNOWDEN had effects on GCHQ. ONE of those effects that led to MANY OTHERS was insertion of THIS GUY HANNIGAN.
Now – if you’re following along with Q, then you know Snowden was a CLOWN OP that had a strong intention to damage NSA. But THAT is not necessarily the only reason. And to think about WHY Snowden was manipulated into doing what he did, remember that commies will try to SOW ONCE and REAP MANY TIMES. See how the suppression of AND logic keeps us dumb? THEY think multiple outcomes. WE chase our tails on the idea of WHICH outcome.
We need to GET OVER the idea that SNOWDEN did what he did for ONE REASON.
We also need to GET OVER the idea that SNOWDEN was a short-term yield. AND we need to get over the idea that we know ALL of the reasons they did the Snowden operation.
Are you with me? Let’s move on.
Remember – this guy CAME IN and LEFT on controversy. Controversy is USEFUL to them.
Note that both the INSERTION and REMOVAL of this guy are a PATTERN of POKE and RESPONSE due to REVELATION and MEDIA MANIPULATION. The other side uses this all the time. This is an extremely important reason why FAKE NEWS works. Fake News helps to control both the REVELATION and the MANIPULATION.
SIDEBAR:
Khashoggi was a perfect example. CIA commies and their DNC media CREATED and then “revealed” a fake American, a fake journalist, and in many ways a fake victim, who had been manipulated into his own MURDER – one that they controlled in several hidden ways – and could then use primary blame-casting of the set-up Saudis to manipulate American foreign policy.
The problem with Khashoggi was that the PUBLIC and REAL JOURNALISM were able to reveal enough hidden truth that the whole operation’s SKETCHY NATURE became evident. It was clearly a MANIPULATION – and United States foreign policy does NOT deserve to change because of communist manipulations – even if they are OUR COMMUNISTS.
Back to Hannigan – particularly his INSERTION.
First of all, who is he?
Hannigan’s background was not initially in intelligence. Born in Gloucester in 1965 and brought up in Yorkshire, he had been a high-flying civil servant at the Northern Ireland Office, where he was head of communications and later political director. He was involved in the peace process, credited[note media manipulation – W] with coming up with the idea for a diamond-shaped table[rolling eyes hard -W] in order to get over objections by the opposing sides about seating arrangements.
He transferred to London where he became involved in a series of intelligence jobs, including defence and liaison with the US, before going on to GCHQ, where he worked for six months as part of the handover before taking control.
Guardian article
If this looks a lot like a typical unqualified or deceptively qualified OBAMA APPOINTEE, then yeah, you’re seeing it, too. This guy had no business being in charge of GCHQ. And yet he was. FUNNY, THAT.
FAKE REFORM is a very big thing with communists and OUR intelligence agencies.
So – let’s look at their FAKE REFORM at GCHQ. What did the commies REALLY DO?
At the time, GCHQ, in spite of many of its secrets spilled by Snowden, remained the most secretive of the three intelligence agencies: the others being MI6 and MI5. But Hannigan expanded the press team, invited more journalists to visit GCHQ and encouraged a stream of news stories aimed at bringing the agency into the public eye. [as if any of this is going to actually solve any problems. -W]
In his first week in office, he created controversy with a column published in the Financial Times accusing US technology companies of becoming “the command and control networks of choice” for terrorists.
In March last year, he softened his criticism in a speech to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, calling for a new relationship between the intelligence agencies and the tech companies, part of a campaign to try to secure the help of the companies in providing access to supposedly encrypted messages.
Guardian article
I could go on forever about this. Hannigan BEHAVED in the classic ways of a CLINTON or OBAMA appointee. Once you see that “saboteur” model in operation, you never forget it.
invites in reporters and other “low-grade spies” – this is extremely reminiscent of Hazel O’Leary in Energy. The left LOVES to get a diversity-based or other unqualified leftoid in at the top, who leverages a media-driven moral panic (“OH NOES! WE NEED OPEN!”) or moral manic (“OH, JOY, WE ARE ALL OPEN NOW!”) to WEAKEN security
immediately uses JOURNALISM to call for tech censorship using terrorism foil
immediately blame-casts to US tech companies on terror (which problem, ironically, NSA is watching), while US tech companies are simultaneously media-cast as VICTIMS of spying by the Snowden op, in order to WEAKEN the NSA. What are the commies trying to do here? What communists always try to do. Get a government function out of government, to some place they control. What the commies wanted to do was SHIFT the burden of fighting terror (which they control) from the NSA to SJWs in tech companies. (As if that would work!) Funny that those SJWs would censor the political enemies of the left. Such a coincidence.
note that Hannigan’s timeline MATCHES Obama’s post-Obamacare roll-out failure-excused calls for partnership with tech, that quickly turned into tech hiring of SJWs and massive censorship
BIG POINT – SNOWDEN softened up the tech companies to censorship pitch
So – are you beginning to see why they don’t want a serious inquiry of this Hannigan guy? GET HIM OUT while the getting is good. Just like the lady (NOT Lois Lerner) who was responsible for the IRS scandal. Just like Eric Holder getting out of Dodge.
Resignation or job-shifting before inquiry is STRAIGHT out of the Obama manual. They needed this Hannigan guy GONE pronto, as soon as Trump was elected.
And what, finally, was the BIGGEST point?
SNOWDEN LED TO INSERTION OF SOMEBODY AT GCHQ WHO WOULD PLAY BALL WITH OBAMA IN 2016, TO ELECT HILLARY CLINTON.
What are our big learning points here?
Snowden was a big op with MANY OUTCOMES (AND logic), had MANY BIG LATE EFFECTS (long-term thinking), and likely will have MANY MORE that we have not yet recognized (uncertainty).
Strategery. The commies may have it. But so do we.
This Thunberg Threatler Youth (a.k.a. SHILLDREN) Thursday open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
SHILLDREN ARE NOW A THING.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
WE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM
U.S. President Donald Trump prays during the National Prayer Breakfast event in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 2, 2017. Photo courtesy of Retuers/Carlos Barria
Great points – thank you. I was used as an child "ecology shill" back in the 60's – we actually have Earth Day (Lenin's bday, but ignore that) because us kids lobbied for it for our teachers. Same thing, different issue. They USED us, just like they're using these kids.
