Our mission, as God-fearing and God-loving patriots, is to defend this Constitutional Republic and to increase its greatness, in all good things and ways, by using our voices in free but courteous speech, by discussing the happenings of the world and coming to a profound understanding of those things, and by sharing and promulgating these Truths on both this platform and others.
….and once I realized that the BIGGEST goal was inhibition of our SPEECH – well – I just rammed a CONSTITUTION-SIZED poison pill down that DRAGON THROAT….
Knowing what I know about how these people “grease the wheels” with MK, and seeing that they pulled off an airplane-wrecking chain of extraordinary incompetence in multiple people to make sure this guy “committed suicide”, I realized that we are up against WORLD-CLASS CAPABILITIES. This is WAR in ways that go beyond any kind of criminal activity this world has ever seen before, in my humble opinion.
These people pull off whatever they want, and leave a trail of plausible deceptions behind. It is, quite literally, “the event people” I keep talking about.
So at this point, I’m thinking that MAYBE whatever MK tech these people are using must be WAY beyond 1981 stuff. But that thought just sits there, unable to compute.
Then, for completely different reasons, I get blown away by THIS VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpN5PjOxHbo
This video, connecting secret nuclear and alien tech to science I was innocently interested in via the public sector, explained in a very general but still-mysterious way, WHY bad things started happening to me at a certain point in time. I had no clue that I was wandering into stuff that was going to get me into a LOT of trouble. WEIRD STUFF was definitely going on. I am STILL not sure how it all relates, but I definitely know it’s all connected.
So I run out to get a Bob Lazar DVD, which I cannot find, but I come home with something else:
….and THAT prompts me to realize that things are somewhat different than I thought, but in other ways a lot like I suspected. Prompting me to write THIS….
Ah, yes. HOT AUGUST. And yes. August was kinda hot.
But I think there is going to be a LOT of light in September.
SO – I have to start off with a question.
Is there anybody who wants to begin doing a DAILY THREAD one day a week? The available days are Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
Let me know if you want to do this A.S.A.P., because I’m going to begin preparing September’s daily open threads, on all the available days not covered by Wheatie and T3.
Now – WHY am I doing this? Well, the bottom line is that this last month has shown me WHY I need to be working on BATTLE POSTS every month – not just once in a while. I need to engage the other side promptly and strongly. And in order to write those battle posts, I need to have time away from creating and posting on the open threads.
Thus, I will again be creating “placeholder” Open Threads, before the next month begins. I may try to add a bit more diversity to these posts, but they are too good of a “thing” to pass up, and I need them! Quickly!
So – there you have it. Let’s bring MAJOR light to the darkness in September!
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Audiomachine, titled ‘The New Earth’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:
Header Image: Is President Trump, waving from the platform at the top of the entry stairs for Air Force One. First Lady Melania and Barron are behind him, and are entering the plane…but our President has paused to give us a wave. He has a furrowed brow and a slight smile on his face. It’s a sunny day with blue skies and fluffy white clouds. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is another gif, which gives us the view of being in flight through some craggy mountains and rock formations. As we approach a large promontory, we see a small triangular shaped opening…and we are headed straight for it. We fly right through the opening! On the other side, the view shifts to us looking at the small craft that we seemingly were piloting…and it appears to be a futuristic-looking little space craft. Forth Image: Is an image of President Trump walking by himself along the portico outside the White House. He has his head down and looks deep in thought. This view of the President is framed by the branches of the trees growing alongside the White House, that the photographer made this shot through.
This Sino-Slapping Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Ivan Torrent, titled ‘Glimmer of Hope’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a view of a lone Knight on a white horse, slowly approaching on a pathway leading to a gigantic Tree. The enormous Tree is the size of a skyscraper, with a gnarled trunk and huge branches. There is a rough hillside in front of the tree…so we cannot see the base of it. Some stone ruins are off to the side of the Tree.
In the distance are some other gigantic Trees, which give us an idea of the scale of the one that the Knight is approaching. It is a sunny day with blue sky overhead and there are fluffy white clouds in the distance. Second Image: Is a set of arched doors that come to a pointed arch at the top. One of the doors is slightly ajar. There is ornate scrolled iron-work on the doors at their hinges, that covers quite a bit of each door. A large metal circle serves as the handle on one door…the other door has a metal gate across the lower half.
There is a stone path and a couple of stone steps in front of the doors. Ivy and green vegetation are growing all around the door frame. Above the top of the doors, is a stone carving of a circular emblem of some sort. Sunlight is streaming down on this stone emblem and onto the steps leading up to the doors. Third Image: Is an open lounge with a view, filled with comfy-looking couches and over-stuffed chairs. There are lanterns all around, on the tables, on the guard rails and on out of the way places on the floor. There is a round free-standing stucco fireplace, with a warm-looking fire crackling within it. Large branches serve as supports for the ceiling, with cross-branches forming the structure for the ceiling. Forth Image: Is President Trump in a windbreaker jacket, with a furrowed brow and a sympathetic smile on his face, as he visits storm victims.
There is a guy on Hillary’s side, who saw Trump coming – like a sky filled with bombers – but nobody listened. He published his theory of the “danger” of a Trump victory on May 26, 2016.
While the author, Ross Douthat, didn’t exactly realize what Trump was up to, nor the fact that Trump was going to win, nor even WHY Trump was going to win – he was remarkably close, compared to most of “left-world”. I don’t think Douthat realized that (1) he (Douthat) was not actually looking at the right gray swans, and (2) TRUMP was the one generating the gray swans, through intellect, cunning, love, and sheer hard work.
Douthat believed that, rather than by one, big, unforeseen cataclysmic event – i.e., a “black swan” – a string of uncertainty-generating random-ish events could “accidentally” put Trump in the White House.
The reality is that Trump – grabbing and working HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of gray swan OPPORTUNITIES – coalesced them all into a comfortably large margin of tiny wins, including unforeseen victories in multiple swing states, to become the 45th President of the United States of America.
This “gray swan” view of the world – the idea that the world can be changed by a stream of perhaps uncommon but not rare events – is key to two things – both of which have high impact in my life:
The Plan, as in “Trust the plan.”, as in Q.
the slow, steady work of the “event people”, as I call them – but you might know them as “the Deep State”, or perhaps the people who killed Jeffrey Epstein, JFK, RFK, MLKJ, Ron Brown, and many others.
Trump’s path to 2016 victory could actually be viewed as part of “The Plan”, and I would certainly view it that way. But that is just the beginning, in my current opinion.
“The Plan” is actually much bigger than Trump.
MUCH, MUCH BIGGER.
So how do I know this?
Because I believed Q when he said “You have more than you know.”
3570 [C]oats Before [D]eclas Q!!mG7VJxZNCI1 Aug 2019 – 1:22:36 PM [C] before [D]. [C]oats before [D]eclas. The month of AUGUST is traditionally very HOT. You have more than you know. Q
Q’s last post before 8chan was shut down by the enemy
So – where do I begin? How about Q Day – August 17, 2019?
The Bob Lazar interviews are fascinating. He claims to have worked at Area 51 on alien spacecrafts and he is very convincing. The technology he describes is kind of mind-blowing. This body language dude is a little goofy but he does a decent job of analyzing the interviews. It takes a few minutes to get going…the actual interviews start around 2 minutes and fifty seconds into the video…
Now, I’m going to repeat that video here, but I will just preface things by saying that learning about Bob Lazar was a kind of “gray swan event” for me. It’s a predictable but uncommon critical event. It was evidence meeting a mind that was uniquely ready for it.
It was “UFO stuff” hitting me as edge science with which I was somewhat familiar.
I have traditionally avoided “UFO” stuff. Yes, at various, sporadic times, I’ve read bits and pieces with a kind of curious, almost morbid interest, but INVARIABLY I get to the point of being “turned off” by the cult-like, phenomenal nature of it all. Too many crazies. Too many new-agers. Too many – as Bob Lazar puts it – BAT SHIT CRAZY people. They seem like very nice people, but they also seem very crazy – much more than I could possibly be myself. It makes me start to think that NONE OF IT IS REAL. And yet the idea that it’s NOT REAL simply flies in the face of the most basic scientific and even (strange yet important) religious logic.
What this is, is actually rather profound. It is direct evidence of the psychologically unsettling nature of the ET problem – a demonstration of its power. It may even be a demonstration of how little we understand.
Many people who follow the field do seem like curious, interested, investigatory people. Some also seem like honest witnesses who have had legitimate odd experiences, which are temptingly explained by equally odd theories.
But some people – who blithely talk about hundreds of abductions – well – I simply have my doubts.
ALTHOUGH – when I approach the problem from a technological standpoint – I could see how CREATING such people would not only be possible, but also very useful. It would be the ultimate living disinformation – and, ironically, it protects its own creation – the mark of truly MASTERFUL disinformation. You have to BELIEVE the person about some initial encounter to explain why the rest of what they are saying is NOT TO BE BELIEVED.
Kinda evil, when you think about it.
I don’t doubt ALL of the “abduction” stories. The Barney and Betty Hill story, I believe strongly. I will come back to that, at some point, if only because I HAVE TO COME BACK TO IT.
I’m not even sure I really WANT to believe. Aliens are kinda scary. Indeed, I have actually been a DEBUNKER at times. I’m particularly good at debunking moving and reflected lights. The first time I solved a “reflected light UFO video”, I was ECSTATIC. I felt “better than Snopes”, because I debunked with absolutely no agenda – neither “confirmation bias” nor “debunking bias” (and trust me – nobody ever talks about “debunking bias”, or “anti-confirmation bias”, but it is VERY REAL). Seriously, I would have LOVED for that light to have been a real UFO – but I proved the other side because THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The trouble with Bob Lazar, however, is that not only was he very believable – what he said made sense to me in ways that go way beyond why almost anybody else on the planet would believe him. I simply have hidden knowledge matching up to his story.
Bob Lazar began to solve nearly all the mysteries of my life in ONE VIDEO. This one. As I will explain in a moment.
https://youtu.be/WpN5PjOxHbo
If you want to go back and see all the comments that fell out of this video, go to the following link:
OMG – I just stopped playing this at 16:24, where they’re talking about element 115.
This connects to all the crap that happened around the time I underwent MK.
He says something about the island of stability stuff. THAT was the stuff that got me into trouble in the early 1980’s. I noticed MISSING THEORIES. Based on my understanding of history of science and science itself, I told my professor that there seemed to be missing theories in nuclear physics. It was a logical argument. Based on some existing theories, and the details of how they had originated, it was almost impossible that certain other similar theories didn’t exist – and yet there were no known theories of a certain type.
At that time I wasn’t particularly suspicious – I thought it might just be some kind of interesting historical “phenomenon” – like a random void in science itself (which is a very cool concept in information theory – how does one CREATE or MAINTAIN a void in information?) But I didn’t know WHY it would be missing. I didn’t think that there was any reason to hide theories in that area. These are general science theories. There was not even a popular IDEA that some general theories were “off-limits”. People in science ASSUMED that certain TECHNOLOGY might be classified, but the idea that the most BASIC SCIENCE might be classified – THAT was unheard of back then.
Well, based on what this guy is saying, he is talking about stuff which would be elegantly explained by the theories I thought were missing. I know exactly what he is talking about, and he would have known exactly what I’m talking about.
Which is another tell. This guy acts just like a lot of scientists I’ve known. Just like normal. Just like he was in the lab next door explaining his stuff.
HOLY SHIT.
But his case also explains why they were interested in using MK on scientists, and presumably experimenting on it at the time. If you can keep their secret stuff compartmentalized, it can be protected. This guy (and maybe others) had gone off the ranch, and the military had a security problem. So they HANDED OFF THE PROBLEM to the CIA to deal with MK experiments. Which (from my point of view) are to some extent successful and to some extent not.
And everybody is still interested in these problems.
But OMG – I am so happy that:
– the class of theories I thought should have existed actually exist – the theories work – they would explain the island of stability – there IS an island of stability – elements in that island of stability create cool tech
Now – I’ve already modified my thinking on some of this, and things now make EVEN MORE SENSE. And that is why I am now talking to you all.
After I saw this Bob Lazar YouTube video, I decided to drop by a bookstore and see if I could find any of the Bob Lazar DVDs, as well as any other information on “alleged” alien propulsion technology, or “alleged” (or “fake science” “real”) information on higher post-actinides like element 115, now known as Moscovium. Information – disinformation – I can use it all.
I was VERY specifically looking for what I might call “REAL ALIEN STUFF”. I wanted things that were being dismissed along with the entire category, but were very likely real. Other stuff like Bob Lazar. Things that might seem bogus to most people, but would have the STENCH of awful reality to me.
And, OH, brothers and sisters, DID I FIND IT.
What I did NOT expect, was how utterly seamlessly this stuff integrated with all of the following:
my parents’ lives
my life, including childhood, education, and employment
history of science, including stuff that is rather obscure, but of which I have personal knowledge
the “real” history of the United States that I have pieced together after dumping fake news, fake entertainment, fake science, and fake history
the Q revelations
my personal readings and extensions of the Q revelations
the alleged “alien-free” Q history revealed through the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsaZF2E2uI4
Now – I want to be VERY careful here. I could mention or better still EXPLAIN many specifics from this book, and HOW they integrate with the things I described above. And, indeed, I WILL do that at some point. It will be very convincing. But CONVINCING YOU ALL is not what I want to do. I would prefer for you all to simply MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS.
I am stealing a page from Q, and asking you all to simply READ THIS BOOK and prepare to have your minds blown, by what amounts to “future proves past” on this 1997 book, which was itself relying on “future proves past” about 1947, 1962, and the surrounding years.
I believe that this book may have been part of PLANNED DISCLOSURE. Even the TIMING (50 years after Roswell) seems to have been part of the deal.
Now – it is important for me to address how this stuff affects – or more importantly does NOT affect our little site here.
We have a wide range of MAGA opinion here, across the entire spectrum of both RELIGION and SCIENCE. I am not going to try to “convince” anybody of things they either don’t believe, can’t believe, or don’t want to believe. However, as a free speech site, I will be discussing a lot of things which – AT ALL TIMES – some people absolutely WON’T BELIEVE.
That’s OK. It works that way for everybody. You can say what you think, and you WILL let others say what they think – without denigration or artful inhibitions – other than the first time, which will be the last time. Disagreement is fine – we cannot increase our understanding without it. Open disagreement is better, because if it’s not shared, what use is it? But we will have to let each other say disagreeable things, as I will explain momentarily.
I personally think we’ve done really well on this front – the art of enlightened discussion of hot topics – but this is going to move into new territory.
I am going to state the following in a “future proves past” way:
What is coming – which cannot be stopped – will shake up “what we know” and “how we know it” in profound ways.
However – WE – who are able to discuss BOTH science and religion FREELY – are uniquely prepared for this “rough ride”.
Those who can understand the future from the vantage points of both science and religion will have a much easier time moving into that future. Those who refuse to use one tool or the other will have far greater difficulties dealing with the future.
When I say this, I am including people who oppose either religion or science, but actually know something about what they oppose.
You will not have to give up your beliefs. You will have to re-understand them. You will have to SEE YOUR OWN BELIEFS DIFFERENTLY.
The curves of a changing reality will simply be too steep to allow people to remain exactly where they were before, absent running into the mountains and living in a shack, where CHANGE cannot find them.
In fact, it is imperative that you not give up your beliefs. The FUNDAMENTALS of those beliefs are important. Their being shaken up is an opportunity for opponents of those beliefs to make you “switch worldviews”. DON’T FALL FOR IT. That is my advice. The “hasty jump” is rarely wise. Maybe NEVER wise.
Now, I’m going to close by going back just slightly on what I said. One impression I got from the book is this:
America was blessed with WISE LEADERSHIP in both Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower. We are once again blessed with such leadership now, in President Donald J. Trump.
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer these compositions from Audiomachine’s new album, Burn Point, titled ‘Fighting Back’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump at Bedminster, walking down some stairs out onto the grounds. He has a slight mischievous grin on his face as he eyes something, we don’t know what…but quite possibly a gaggle of press curs. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is another gif, of a small Husky puppy lying on some bedding. There is a hand giving him a loving little scratch on the side of his face as he yawns and smiles back. Fourth Image: Fourth Image: President Trump is standing on the stairway outside the door of Air Force One. It is night time and the lights shining on him create a shadow of him on the aircraft door that looks like the head of an Eagle.
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For Wolfie…who is quite taken with the charms of this sultry vixen.
This past afternoon I was thinking about what I am going to do for those Sundays coming up when I will be traveling and not able to compose the usual on-the-spot posts that often happen pretty close to the beginning of Sunday (but sometimes arriving a tad bit late to our WQ Tree House).
I thought about an excellent fictional book series that I believe carries many important messages for us in the time we are living in. There’s a good number of books in the series. I could have covered a book per Sunday. But that just didn’t quite fit right.
What to do?
I thought about Psalm 119. Another good basis for a series.
But, no, still not it.
And then I recalled how strongly Candace and Steve’s conversation about the leftist media being cowards struck me yesterday. So there’s that.
Maybe a series based on the qualities of a Patriot? We shall see. But for today, we will ponder the quality of Steadfast Fortitude or Courage.
In church tradition, fortitude is often used when reflecting on the character of the martyrs. Fortitude is closely related to faithfulness, a fruit of the Holy Spirit.
FAITHFULNESS (πίστις)
“God is faithful” (1 Cor. 1:9. cf. Rom. 3:3), not as having faith, but as being constant (cf. 1 Cor. 10:13), trustworthy (cf. 2 Cor. 1:18). It is a divine quality. The martyrs were “faithful unto death” (Rev. 2:10), not vacillating at the face of bodily harm and suffering, imitating thus their Lord “Jesus Christ the faithful martyr” (Rev. 1:5. cf. 3:14).
In lieu of an example from the life of a Saint, we quote the following lines from the Wisdom of Solomon, read in the Vespers service for Martyrs:
“The souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and no torment will ever touch them. In the eyes of the foolish they seemed to have died, and their departure was thought to be a disaster, and their going from us to be their destruction; but they are at peace.
For though in the sight of others they were punished, their hope is full of immortality. Having been disciplined a little, they will receive great good, because God tested them and found them worthy of Himself; like gold in the furnace He tried them, and like a sacrificial burnt offering He accepted them.
In the time of their visitation they will shine forth, and will run like sparks through the stubble. They will govern nations and rule over peoples, and the Lord will reign over them forever.
Those who trust in Him will understand truth, and the faithful will abide with Him in love, because grace and mercy are upon His holy ones, and He watches over His elect” (Wis. of Sol. 3:1-9).
An important component to fortitude seems to be a quality of perseverance.
Can you think of anyone that has recently demonstrated fortitude in the public arena?
An interesting thought about how one goes about developing fortitude comes from the idea that it is a fruit.
That is, it is something we grow in our character, not something we build or think our way into. It has to come from something we have developed. Like learning to field balls behind 2nd base in baseball. You don’t just go out there and instantly do it well. But it’s not just an internal skill as you might think of will power or the like. No, it’s more like learning to dance.
We are learning to do hard things within the context of our trusting relationship with the One who leads in this dance called life.
And we will not go far without steadfast fortitude.
Today there is a planned confrontation (street brawl?) in Portland.
Oath Keepers have made a statement.
This is a time for discipline.
August 15, 2019
Public Notice: Oath Keepers Will NOT be Participating in the August 17, 2019 “End Domestic Terrorism” Rally in Portland, OR
by Stewart Rhodes
I wish I didn’t have to do this, but it must be done. I must make it clear that Oath Keepers will not be participating in the “End Domestic Terrorism” rally scheduled for this Saturday, August 17, 2019, which is being organized by Joe Biggs and the Proud Boys.
I must also make it clear that Oath Keepers is NOT an organizer of this event, as has been erroneously reported by some media outlets. This event is being organized by Joe Biggs and the Proud Boys, not Oath Keepers. Oath Keepers was invited to attend, but we will not be attending.
We fully support free speech, and we fully agree that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization that uses force and the threatened use of force to intimidate, silence, and suppress the free speech of Americans. However, we cannot participate in this event for the following reasons: A. We have not seen adequate steps taken by the organizers to exclude known or suspected white nationalists from attending this event. Oath Keepers has a zero tolerance policy for white nationalism or any other ethno-nationalist ideology that discriminates along racial lines (as our bylaws make clear) and we do not, and cannot, knowingly associate with known or suspected white nationalists.
First, we consider white nationalists (along with any other ethno-nationalists) to be dangerous domestic enemies of the Constitution, every bit as deadly to our Republic as the violent communists within Antifa, because white nationalists also hold the Constitution in contempt and wish to overthrow it and replace it with their own desired totalitarian system. On that, the white nationalists and the communists are in agreement. And all of us who swore to defend the Constitution must stand against both of them as clear domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Second, we have a considerable number of active duty military and police in our membership who cannot knowingly associate with racists and we owe it to them to be diligent in avoiding participating in any event where white nationalists will not be actively, stringently excluded.
Third, the left in this nation is desperate to paint all conservatives and, especially, all Trump supporters as “white nationalists” to the point of absurdity. Allowing any actual white nationalists into an event where attendees are encouraged to bring Trump flags as well as American flags would be a grave mistake and does no favors to either President Trump or to the broader conservative cause. Conservatives, libertarians, and Trump supporters must be diligent about making sure the events they organize exclude white nationalists who want the same thing the left wants – to paint the false impression that we agree with their racist, collectivist, anti-constitution agenda (which is exactly why CNN loves to give airtime to the white nationalist troll Richard Spencer, as he desperately tries to tie his Neo-Nazi agenda to Trump).
I want to stress that we at Oath Keepers DO NOT believe that Joe Biggs or Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, the two organizers of this event, are white nationalists. Nor do we believe that the great majority of those groups and individuals who plan on attending the event are white nationalists. But we do not believe the organizers are taking the steps necessary to ensure that white nationalist and suspected white nationalist groups and individuals will be excluded.
A closely related problem is that the organizers have not secured a permit for exclusive use of the Waterfront Park where they will be holding the rally this Saturday in Portland. Yes, they still have a right to free speech, but one of the advantages of securing a permit to use a public space for a particular time is that it allows you to exclude others from using that same space at that time, such as excluding known or suspected white nationalists.
We saw the problems a lack of a permit can bring when we helped to protect a free speech event in Berkeley, CA in April, 2017. That was an un-permitted event, and because the event organizers had not secured a permit for exclusive use of the MLK park, they could not exclude the white nationalists group Identity Evropa from entering the park. Identity Evropa promptly placed themselves and their anti-Semitic, racist signs front and center, facing off with Antifa.
I instructed those under our command in the event security element that under no circumstances were they to allow Identity Evropa to enter our security inner perimeter around the audience and the stage. I was willing to go to jail to prevent Identity Evropa from actually entering the audience for the event, but we could not kick them out of the park. And, of course, the media all focused their cameras on Identity Evropa. We were able to maintain some separation between them and the event we were securing, but it did give Identity Evropa the opportunity to attempt to co-opt the event for their own agenda.
For this event in Portland, in contrast to the April 2017 event in Berkeley, Oath Keepers is not in charge of the security element and, if we attended this Saturday, we would not be able to actively exclude suspected white nationalists as we did in Berkeley. As such, we cannot attend. B. Some of the past rhetoric, public statements, and memes/graphics posted online by the event organizer and by planned attendees expose those who attend the August 17 rally to possible civil and criminal law liability.
We understand the anger and frustration among patriots after watching the footage of the violent Antifa attack on Andy Ngo on June 29, 2019 and the horrific attack on two other patriots that same day. However, angry, undisciplined public statements that can be construed as expressing an intent to come to Portland to seek out Antifa and engage them in street fights and to assault them, and memes posted online to that effect, or worse, do a disservice to anyone who wants to attend a free speech event in protest against Antifa terrorism and against the failure of Portland officials to secure the free speech rights of Americans.
Those angry statements cannot be undone, and despite the organizers and planned attendees subsequently dialing back on the rhetoric, those prior statements are already being used against them by their political opponents and by the leftist dominated media. All of the angry videos,Twitter posts, and incriminating photos, etc by the organizer leading up to this rally have been preserved by Antifa and their supporters. Likewise for memes/graphics posted by planned attendees depicting violence against Antifa.
Further, those prior statements, videos, photos, and memes/graphics by the event organizer and other planned attendees potentially expose all attendees to possible prosecution using both an Oregon state “rioting” statute and a federal rioting statute that was used on some of the attendees of the disastrous Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally in August, 2017 (which Oath Keepers also did NOT attend). Even though the vast majority of the planned attendees for the Portland rally this Saturday have no intention of initiating unlawful violence against Antifa, the prior statements of the event organizer, expressing his intent, can potentially be used against all attendees.
I share the frustrations many patriots feel about the obvious double standard of Antifa having free rein in Portland while patriots are under the microscope. But I cannot and will not expose Oath Keepers members to possible persecution/prosecution because of undisciplined statements made by others, however understandable the anger that prompted the undisciplined statements. Therefore, I must urge all Oath Keepers members to stay clear of this event in Portland on August 17, 2019. C. More Than Ever, This is a Time for Discipline and Professionalism
Because of their own actions, Antifa is currently on the ropes and is on the verge of being declared a domestic terrorist organization. Much has taken place since Joe Biggs first announced his intent to hold this rally. First, on July 13, 2019, the self-identified Antifa terrorist Willem Van Spronsen used a rifle and Molotov cocktails to attack the ICE detention facility in Tacoma, WA. Only by the grace of God was he not able to kill responding officers. Van Spronsen pointed his AR-15 at the officers, but it apparently malfunctioned, and he was shot and killed before he could fix that malfunction. He also failed in his attempt to ignite a 500 lb propane tank. If he had been successful, it could have killed all the personnel and the detainees in the center. Thankfully he was an incompetent terrorist.
Since that attack, Antifa has lauded Van Spronsen as a martyr and an example to follow, and, in the graphics promoting their planned assault on the border in El Paso, Texas September 1-10, Antifa has openly threatened to kill CBP personnel.
And, of course, Antifa widely celebrated the July 12 illegal trespassing at the Aurora, CO ICE facility where protesters tore down the American flag, attempted to burn it, and in its place hoisted up the Mexican flagand also flew a defaced, upside down “blue lives matter” flag with “Abolish ICE” written on it in red.
And most recently, at 3am on August 13, 2019, shots were fired into the occupied ICE offices in San Antonio, Texas.
A maxim of warfare, expressed by Napoleon Bonaparte, is to “never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Patriots, conservatives, Trump supporters, all need to be disciplined and let Antifa continue to show their true colors. It would be counterproductive to engage in undisciplined activities (or in a rally who’s main organizer made undisciplined statements of intent) that can be construed by the media and politicians to paint patriots as the aggressors and Antifa as the victims.
Frankly, given the prior statements of Joe Biggs that will be used against all attendees of his rally, it would be best for the patriot/conservative cause if this August 17 rally were simply canceled. Those who want to protest the way Portland coddles Antifa should start over, with a clean slate, and then do so in a much more disciplined manner.
In addition to the above noted Antifa terrorism, after the mass shootings in California, El Paso, and Ohio, we are in a decidedly “kinetic” (guns and bombs) environment and we should expect Antifa to use even more deadly force as they go full “Weather Underground” in their revolutionary communist-terrorist trajectory. Expect it.
As such, Oath Keepers will be very disciplined about what events we participate in, and we are currently instructing our members to focus on publicly supporting and directly backing up ICE and CBP personnel in a disciplined, purely defensive posture, using only clearly lawful self defense and defense of others, and to focus on our upcoming operation in El Paso, TX where we will also be assisting in securing private property (including homes) against deadly threat by Antifa.
If the event organizers do continue on with their planned event this Saturday, we sincerely hope it goes off without a hitch and is peaceful and successful. But Oath Keepers will be focusing our resources elsewhere.
For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes
Founder and National President of Oath Keepers Credits: Author, Stewart Rhodes at OathKeepers.org Recommended by andyocoregon here at WQTH
Let’s P.R.A.Y.!
Whatever the outcome today, may I suggest to include this struggle in our prayers. Thy Kingdom Come. Thy Will Be Done. Think *3
Welcome! Come on inside through the secret back entrance.
This Special Q-Day-Seventeen Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world.
Take the elevator up….
And find a comfy spot.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Audiomachine, titled ‘Godspeed’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:
Header Image: Is an opening in the base of an enormous Tree, with moss-covered steps leading up into it. There is a lantern inside and another lantern hanging just outside the entrance, with another lantern hanging further down at the beginning of the steps. Lush green ferns and flowering vegetation are growing on either side of the steps. First Image: Is a small round wooden elevator with a couple of fold-down jumpseats inside. There is ornate metal scrollwork on the door entrance, and a sliding metal door. Second Image: Is a cozy room with comfy-looking couches made of logs. A coffee table with logs for legs is between them. There is a chess set on the table and there are throw pillows and plaid blanket throws on the couches. The room is softly lit from lanterns hanging on the wall, and hanging from a large tree section growing up through the corner. Open windows reveal a view of tree branches. Third Image: Is President Trump standing outside of Bedminster, with a solemn look of resolve on his face. He has a slight frown and is squinting from the bright diffused light.
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Amotz Plessner of Underground Music, titled ‘Where We’ll Go’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump looking straight towards us with his head slightly bowed and an intense look on his face. He is pointing at us…or at whomever was taking the picture, so it was likely a photog with the press curs. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Another gif. There is a cat riding a skateboard, approaching a large Rottweiler dog who is standing beside his owner. The cat doesn’t flinch or slow down. When the cat reaches the Rottweiler, it jumps up onto the dog’s back as his skateboard goes underneath the dog. The cat then jumps back down onto it’s skateboard on the other side of the dog…and proceeds on his way. Fourth Image: Is President Trump walking outdoors, with two secret service agents behind him. He is holding up his left arm out to his side, giving us a wave with his hand…and has a solemn, determined look on his face.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS: I AM PRAYING FOR YOU
2nd Amendment Sunday
Well, it’s really quite the hot August and there are a lot of chores to be done around our place. To be honest, the number of really excellent threads inspires me. To not be very wordy. To allow for some strong conversations here…
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