Dear KMAG: 20200724 Open Topic / Vaccine News / Vaccine Horse Race / Vaccine Evolution / Vaccine Conservatism

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https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1285929634224312322

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Vaccine News

I started off above with THIS NEWS…..

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1285929634224312322

For many of you, I can safely predict that this does NOT feel like “good news” to you. For others, it does feel like good news, but perhaps YOU are dreading being positive about vaccines in a movement which is largely skeptical of them.

MY MISSION is to make you ALL welcome this news, because you will FEAR NO TRUTHS.

To do this, I’m going to take you on a LONG JOURNEY to answer one question – Is Wolf going to take THIS VACCINE if it makes it to production?

Are you ready to go? Here is your first BRAVERY KICK. Repeat after me…..

“I shall FEAR NO TRUTHS!”

Are you ready to go? GOOD!


The first thing I noticed is that Seb Gorka – Q DENIER – is using the same GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINE IMAGE that measly Q blogger Wolf Moon uses all the time.

I downloaded this sucker back in APRIL, and used the original web URL in a lot of comments.

JUST SAYIN’. Gorka ain’t GOD. He’s just a small human in MAGA, just like the rest of us. He has to scrape images just like the rest of us.

Feel that FEAR slipping away?

GOOD.

Now – remember – POTUS is ALL-IN on developing a vaccine – and QUICKLY.

JUST SAYIN’.

Don’t fear it. UNDERSTAND IT.

By the time we are done here, you will be able to OPINE SMARTLY about what POTUS is doing here, no matter what your personal view of vaccines – either for yourself or for others.

Let’s look more deeply at Seb Gorka’s article:

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Secures 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine from Pfizer

LINK: https://www.sebgorka.com/breaking-news-u-s-secures-100-million-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-from-pfizer/

The United States government has secured a $2 billion deal for 100 million doses of a promising experimental Coronavirus vaccine being developed by the U.S.-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.

The two companies, which are producing the vaccine together, said that the doses will be provided to America if they prove “safe and effective in humans.” The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that as a result of the government’s purchase, the vaccines would come at “no cost” to Americans seeking the vaccine once it’s available.

This is the latest vaccine candidate to be secured for the United States as a result of President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed,” aimed at expediting the possible cure and eventual eradication of the Chinese virus. Other companies developing possible vaccines that have been enlisted by the government include Novavax, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Emergent Biosolutions.

Sebastian Gorka, https://www.sebgorka.com/breaking-news-u-s-secures-100-million-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-from-pfizer/

Here are the KEY POINTS you want to remember as we DIG DEEPER…..

  • deal is for enough doses to use (at least in the short-term) on PART of American populace – NOT ALL – although eventually there will be more than enough (see below)
  • it’s considered promising according to the TRUMP administration
  • vaccine is by US and German companies – NOT a Chinese vaccine
  • the US company is Pfizer – a key identifier along with BioNTech
  • conditioned on the vaccine being safe and effective IN HUMANS
  • part of Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed”
  • goal is CURE and EVENTUAL ERADICATION
  • staying on message – it’s the CHINESE virus
  • OTHER vaccines and makers have been enlisted by the government
    • Novavax
    • Johnson & Johnson
    • Moderna
    • AstraZeneca
    • Emergent Biosolutions

You will note that there is a LINK – and basically what we have here is RE-REPORTING of CNBC.

LINK: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/us-government-taps-pfizer-to-produce-millions-of-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine.html

So let’s GO THERE! Here is CNBC:

U.S. agrees to pay Pfizer and BioNTech $2 billion for 100 million doses of coronavirus vaccine

PUBLISHED WED, JUL 22 2020
7:16 AM EDT
UPDATED 24 MIN AGO
Will Feuer @WILLFOIA

According to the author, there are 3 key points:

  • Under the agreement, the U.S. will get 100 million doses of the vaccine, if it works, and can acquire 500 million additional doses if needed.
  • German biotech firm BioNTech and U.S.-based Pfizer are jointly developing the vaccine.
  • HHS said Americans won’t have to pay for it. 

Now – here are MY additional key points:

  • Pfizer and BioNTech are actually running FOUR different vaccines – any of them that wins may be the one that “succeeds” in this deal
  • A 30K participant trial of the/a Pfizer vaccine is expected to begin later this month (July 2020)
  • The most advanced candidate is called BNT162b1
  • Candidate BNT162b1 has been demonstrated to produce neutralizing antibodies in clinical trials
  • The article EXPLAINS the logic behind the Trump-Pence (Pence is my addition here) “Operation Warp Speed
    • multiple companies pushed to increase the odds of a WINNER, SOONER
    • goal is ENOUGH VACCINE FOR ALL AMERICANS [not saying mandatory – just saying]
    • logistics assumes success and builds supply chains and SCALE while researching
    • note that this is kinda how the Manhattan Project worked
    • this is just the latest vaccine effort to get a federal green light
      • Novavax vaccine was similarly green-lighted at 1.6 billion dollars
      • Johnson & Johnson green-lighted at 0.456 billon
      • Moderna green-lighted at 0.486 billion
      • Astra-Zeneca / Oxford green-lighted at 1.2 billion
      • Emergent Biosolutions green-lighted at 0.628 billion

The explanation of “Operation Warp Speed” is useful, so you don’t have to be AFRAID of talking about it and being mocked by Democrats, should you use the somewhat corny name. It’s like many of Trump’s simple but extremely sound ideas. The names are almost like gatekeepers that turn away mockers, reflexive haters, and other people of “bad faith”, but those of good faith are invited in to get in early on the winning team.

Yeah, I smell PENCE all over that. A genius hire, to do exactly this strategy.

Here is Azar talking:

“This is what’s really unprecedented with President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. We are literally making the commercial scale vaccine now as we’re going through the clinical trial,” Azar told CNBC. “We’re doing that at risk, using the full power of the U.S. government and our financial resources to do that. No one’s ever done this before.”

Vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and others have been ramping up manufacturing capacity before their vaccine’s have been proven to be safe and effective and before receiving regulatory approval. That will help shave months off the time it takes to ultimately distribute a vaccine across the globe.

“We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, said in a statement. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.”

Developing a safe and effective vaccine is seen as crucial to curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 14.9 million people around the world and killed at least 617,200 people, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

While the companies and government race to deliver a successful vaccine, regulators and company officials have assured the public and members of Congress that they will not sacrifice on safety. All that’s at risk, they say, is money. 

A very interesting concept – risk the money on any failed vaccines as far as premature commercialization, but END the “threat” sooner and win big on rebounding the ECONOMY.

THAT RIGHT THERE sounds like classic Trumpian “manage the downside to win” thinking.

NOW – let’s dig DEEPER STILL.

Why is Trump throwing the BIGGEST CHUNK OF CASH YET at this particular vaccine?

In my opinion, it is because this vaccine is showing itself to be SAFE AND EFFECTIVE already, despite being one of the “newer” technologies.

To see this, we need to go to a couple of LINKS in the last article.

First, some prior recent reporting by CNBC – clearly enough time (3 weeks) for the $2B to show up.

LINK: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/pfizer-stock-jumps-after-it-reports-positive-data-in-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html

Pfizer stock jumps after it reports positive data in early stage coronavirus vaccine trial

PUBLISHED WED, JUL 1 2020
9:05 AM EDT
UPDATED WED, JUL 1 2020
3:52 PM EDT
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
@BERKELEYJR

Here are the key points, per CNBC:

  • Pfizer shares jumped after it released positive results from its closely watched early stage human trial on a coronavirus vaccine. 
  • The trial evaluated 45 people. Each participant received 10, 30 or 100 microgram doses of the vaccine or a placebo. 
  • Pfizer said the vaccine was generally well tolerated, though the experimental vaccine also caused fever in some patients, especially for those who were in the 100 microgram group.

Here are my added key points:

  • ONE of the four candidates produced neutralizing antibodies. YES. Just one of them.
  • levels of neutralizing antibodies were 1.8 to 2.8 times higher than in recovered COVID-19 patients
  • after 28 days, all participants at the lower (and safer) 10 and 30 microgram dosages had significant levels of binding antibodies
  • all four candidates are based on mRNA technology
  • reactions to the vaccine were milder than, e.g., the Moderna vaccine (*my* reading)
  • reactions were primarily FEVER and injection site pain, with fever being more common in the 100 microgram group
  • MOST patients reported injection site pain, mild to moderate, but it was SEVERE in one case at 100 micrograms
  • looks to me that they will shoot for 10 or 30 micrograms, depending upon durability of immunity granted by those doses
  • 100 million doses could be ready by the end of 2020
  • 1.2 BILLION doses could be ready by the end of 2021

Next, we follow two PRESS RELEASES from Pfizer and BioNTech:

LINK 1: https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2020/Pfizer-and-BioNTech-Announce-an-Agreement-with-U.S.-Government-for-up-to-600-Million-Doses-of-mRNA-based-Vaccine-Candidate-Against-SARS-CoV-2/default.aspx

LINK 2: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200722005438/en/

Here is the MONEY QUOTE on RESULTS:

The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines, each of which represents a unique combination of messenger RNA (mRNA) format and target antigen. On July 1st, Pfizer and BioNTech announced preliminary data from BNT162b1, the most advanced of the four mRNA formulations. The early data demonstrates that BNT162b1 is able to produce neutralizing antibodies in humans at or above the levels observed in the plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, and this was shown at relatively low dose levels. Local reactions and systemic events were dose-dependent, generally mild to moderate, and transient. No serious adverse events were reported. On July 20th, the companies announced early positive update from German Phase 1/2 COVID-19 vaccine study, including first T Cell response data.

SO – we have an mRNA vaccine which appears to be – compared to other vaccines we’ve been hearing about – relatively safe and effective. NO SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS.

But YES – this vaccine is the NEW and somewhat unproven DNA/RNA vaccine tech.

So how do we JUDGE IT?

In my opinion, we first need to take a look at ALL the leading COVID-19 vaccines.


Vaccine Horse Race

The horrible China-Puppet WHO does have one redeeming feature – BUREAUCRATS KEEPING TRACK OF THINGS.

This URL is always a good place to go, to see where vaccines stand. Yeah, China and Bill Gates probably get to track the downloads, and maybe even infect the PDF file, but whatever.

That’s what I’m here for – to turn that nasty PDF into nice, safe, images.

LINK: https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines

Let’s look at the FIRST TWO PAGES of the document they produce, keeping track of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.

What can we GLEAN from this stuff?

We can’t FULLY understand this yet, but we WILL in a few minutes. For now, we can mostly understand the THIRD COLUMN – who is behind which particular vaccine.

The vaccines are ORDERED in terms of how advanced the RESEARCH is – in particular, how far along the CLINICAL TRIALS are. The TOP TWO DOZEN entries (#1 to #24) are all the vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS. #1 is the most advanced – which right now means PHASE 3 trials. The least advanced (#24) will only be in initial PHASE 1 trials.

So GUESS WHO IS AT THE TOP? (Look in the 3rd column for the developer…)

CHYYYNNAA!

Yeah, boy howdy, that sure is a surprise! The top three entries are all CHINA!

*eyeroll*

Then, number FOUR is the Astra-Zeneca / Oxford vaccine.

Then, numbers FIVE and SIX are CHYYYNNAA again!!! Think of that – the top 6 vaccines in terms of advancement, and CHYYYNNAA has FIVE of them. I guess that’s what happens when YOU RELEASE THE VIRUS.

SICK.

The next two are Western – Moderna and Inovio. Both of these have gotten a lot of press, not all of it good.

Moderna (#7) made the news b/c it came out with glowing statements about trials, but the fine print uncovered in the next few days was lots of serious side effects. What followed was a journalist pile-on, with lots of talk that Moderna has no experience, is stiff-arming the feds on safety, and is hyping more than fixing stuff. Very “Obama”.

Inovio (#8) is a DNA vaccine, similar to the mRNA vaccines. Look in the FIRST COLUMN under “Platform” to see the type. You don’t have to understand the platform quite yet. The Inovio vaccine was one of the first COVID-19 vaccines to get a lot of public attention, and is backed by Bill Gates and CEPI, as are MANY of the others. Gates is behind most of the horses in the race, so that he CANNOT LOSE.

Ask WHY.

Numbers 9, 10 and 11 are also DNA vaccines, with #9 being a Japanese effort.

Then come two more standard vaccines, Indian (#12) and Chinese (#13), leading off on the SECOND image / second page above.

Finally, at #14, we get to Novavax, which is the vaccine I like for myself, provided that it’s ever proven safe and effective (and useful) in people who’ve already had the disease. WHY I like it for ME, however, requires some explanation, but not yet – let’s keep looking at the list.

Skip over #15, the Turtlehead vaccine (made you curious, didn’t I?), which is also a vaccine that I am PERSONALLY potentially favorable toward. Seriously, it’s just a KY company (Kentucky Bioprocessing), and KY is in USA. But it is also a technology I favor as likely to be SAFE.

FINALLY, at #16, we get to the Pfizer vaccine. This is the one in question. Am I going to take it?

Not going to answer that yet!

Of the remaining entries, I’m liking FOR MYSELF numbers 18, 19, and 20, which include the GSK effort (#18) and the University of Queensland vaccine (#20), both in the news occasionally.

Of the last 4 entries, 21-24, thereby rounding out the TWO DOZEN vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS, #21 is the Imperial College vaccine often in the news, and #23 is the CHINESE ARMY (PLA) entry – an mRNA vaccine, which IMO is likely to be STOLEN TECH.

So – HOW DO WE JUDGE?

WELL – before we can really judge, it helps if we understand certain basics of vaccines.

Let me provide you with something VERY AWESOME that I found online.


Vaccine Evolution

Vaccines, like everything else in Creation, are EVOLVING INTELLIGENTLY.

We just have to make sure that they’re EVOLVING HONESTLY.

That’s where it gets tricky. But first, we have to understand the basics of how vaccines WORK – hopefully WITH the immune system, INTELLIGENTLY AND HONESTLY.

Vaccines as we now know them are designed to trigger the immune system into THINKING we have a disease, when we don’t really have it, so that when we would otherwise get the disease, we are already prepared for it, and fight it off. This is a very smart idea which has TRACKED human civilization.

Smallpox is the disease which taught us about vaccination. Before the term “vaccination” was generalized to its current state of “inducing immunity to a disease by prior and safer activation the immune system”, “vaccination” meant inoculation (intentional INFECTION) with cowpox or a relative, as a DEFENSE against smallpox. Vaccination was EXCLUSIVELY a smallpox therapy. Very interestingly, the OLDER, more dangerous practice of infection with heat-and-time-weakened smallpox virus was KNOWN by empirical observation, and dated back to at least the Middle Ages in China. That practice was called “variolation”.

Thus, cowpox cross-immunity to protect against smallpox was a LUCKY BREAK. Most diseases don’t HAVE a nearly harmless cowpox version of “whatever” to protect you from real “whatever”.

Thus, what “vaccines” are doing NOW is much more akin to the OLDER and MORE DANGEROUS practice of variolation – a form of inoculation – intentional infection with the very “something” you are afraid of – preferably something which has been tinkered with in some way so that it no longer kills you.

Inoculation is POWERFUL because it’s more generalizable, but it’s RISKY because it makes US responsible for SAFETY.

You know – if we were more honest, we’d call vaccines something else, like “variolines”, or maybe “inoculums”, or – OH YEAH – inoculations.

I know this is actually very simple, but I want to CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE on “vaccines”.

I want you to be not just INFORMED, which can be DISINFORMED, but to have real and deep UNDERSTANDING, which CANNOT be disinformed as easily.

Read the last three sentences of the above Wikipedia entry for “Variolation” to understand “what cannot be said in science” right now.

The method is no longer used today. It was replaced by smallpox vaccine, a safer alternative. This in turn led to the development of the many vaccines now available against other diseases.

See the trick? It’s a kind of “circle of changed meanings”, so beloved by lying Democrats. The potentially dangerous and generally iffy WOLF/SHEEPDOG of “inoculation” borrowed the sheepskin of the “safer alternative” vaccination to claim false but reassuring safety for what is really the tricky business that could be called “generalized variolation”.

We got LUCKY on smallpox, and now pretend that the same luck-magic can be extended to all diseases. HA! GET REAL, SCIENCE.

The reality is that the term “vaccines” is historical euphemism.

Read the history of smallpox to GROUND YOURSELF in REALITY.

SEE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox

AND: https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html

AND: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/scientists-traced-origin-of-smallpox-vaccine-strains-used-during-civil-war/

Well, vaccines are now a much BROADER science. They are, basically, “tinkering with the immune system to do stuff” – and that includes STERILIZING PEOPLE by induction of auto-immune attack on their reproductive platform. One person’s nasty side effect is another person’s depopulationist panacea.

Have you ever considered WHY we’re not supposed to think about vaccine side-effects? It’s because “SIDE” depends upon your perspective.

“WHAT WE DO NOT EVEN THINK POSSIBLE, WE CANNOT SUSPECT.”

Yes, THAT is how big vaccines are, now. We can actually immunize people against PARENTHOOD.

SO – if you don’t understand vaccines, you are at the mercy of those who do. Be GLAD that the Hitler regime didn’t have sterilization vaccines.

Be CONCERNED that the CHINAZIS have them RIGHT NOW. They could sterilize ALL of the Uighurs and just move the HAN SUPREMACISTS right in.

Y’all see what I’m sayin’?

Why, with all the Uighur men gone, they could be sterilizing all the women – or all the men – right now – with just a SHOT OR TWO. Wait a minute. Somebody reported “medical experimentation” in those Uighur reeducation camps. Hmmmmmmm.

But let’s leave THAT for another time. My point is this – vaccines are a very BROAD topic. For now, let’s stick to “current ways to potentially fight coronaviruses by prior immunization”.


In that regard, I recently found a wonderful blog post which explains the different TYPES of vaccines being considered for COVID-19. This is an excellent article.

LINK: https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-19-vaccine

Classic and new technologies vying to be the first COVID-19 vaccine

Jeffrey Smoot
Information Scientist, CAS
Posted June 11, 2020

I could not have put together such a GREAT and SHORT summary of the different vaccine techs if I had spent years doing it.

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE! It’s actually a VERY fast read!

Now let’s look at the critical TABLE 1, which I’m quoting “vertically” and editorializing somewhat, based on a “monster” metaphor.

The table entries are unmolested. The entry titles reflect – somewhat humorously – my relative levels of trust/distrust of the technologies involved, and their state of readiness for “prime time” – expressed as effectiveness against “theoretical” pathogens.

Table 1. Vaccine Classification


Header Definitions (How to Read Table)

Type — What basic kind of vaccine

Active Component — may be abbreviation or acronym – GOOGLE IT!!!

Advantage — why you might trust this platform

Disadvantage — why you might NOT trust this platform

Vaccine Example — actual uses in existing vaccines you may or may not like


Bitten By Chocula

Type — Live, attenuated

Active Component — Pathogen capable of replication

Advantage — Strong and long-lasting immune response, usually lifetime protection

Disadvantage — Risk of disease

Vaccine Example — Tuberculosis, MMR, smallpox, chickenpox, yellow fever


Carry A Wooden Stake

Type — Inactivated (or killed)

Active Component — Pathogen chemical or heat treated to prevent replication

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — Lesser immune response;  booster shots may be needed

Vaccine Example — Flu, hepatitis A, polio, rabies


Silver Bullets

Type — Subunit (protein, polysaccharide, conjugate, toxoid)

Active Component — Portions of a pathogen

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — Booster shot often needed

Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, HPV, whooping cough, shingles, meningococcal disease, pneumococcal disease, diphtheria, tetanus


Shiny Silver Bullets

Type — VLP

Active Component — Outer coat of virus

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — [none mentioned – surely there are some – W]

Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, cervical cancer, malaria


Bitten By Frankenberry

Type — Recombinant vector vaccine

Active Component — Non-pathogenic virus or bacteria as carrier of immunogen of interest

Advantage — Reusable for diverse antigens; no risk of disease

Disadvantage — Pre-existing or development of immunity to vector

Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available


Chocula Goes Back In Time And Marries Your Mom

Type — DNA vaccine

Active Component — Plasmid or other expression vector

Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology

Disadvantage — Lack of data

Vaccine Example — Veterinary medicine (canine melanoma, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus of fish, equine West Nile virus)


Chocula Commits Identity Theft On Your Mom

Type — mRNA vaccine

Active Component — RNA that encodes a disease-specific pathogen protein

Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology

Disadvantage — Effectiveness and side effects are unknown

Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available


This is a great chart because it orders things from “oldest” to newest in terms of general technology.

First live virus (weakened smallpox, cowpox, vaccinia), then dead virus, then specific fragments, then fake Frankenstein live virus, and finally the new fake “like a virus” DNA and RNA mucking around science.

READ THE LINK – each type is explained.

Let me review the different PLATFORMS (column 1) in the pages of the WHO document. These correspond to most of the types in the linked blog post.

  • Inactivated
  • Non-Replicating Viral Vector
  • Protein Subunit
  • RNA
  • DNA
  • VLP

These methods can basically be broken into two different sets of two categories each:

  • OLD-SCHOOL versus NEW-SCHOOL
  • IMMUNOGEN versus INSTRUCTIONS

Old-school methods are “old biology” – no recombinants, no gene sequencing, no plasmids, no fancy tricks.

New-school methods use our advanced knowledge of biochemistry to MAKE STUFF at the molecular and biochemical level, either before injection or after injection.

Immunogen methods inject the stuff that triggers the immune reaction.

Instruction methods inject DNA or RNA – pretty much like a VIRUS does – maybe even USING a virus, or an artificial virus-like construct – to get those instructions into your cells.

So now let me apply those labels to the platforms, including one that’s missing (live /attenuated).

  • Live / Attenuated – OLD-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • Inactivated – OLD-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
  • Non-Replicating Viral Vector – NEW SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • Protein Subunit – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
  • RNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • DNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • VLP – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN

You see? There’s actually a lot of choice.

So – what should you trust?

THAT is for you to decide. I can only tell you what *I* trust. And WHY.


Vaccine Conservatism

I am generally – PERSONALLY – favorable toward vaccines, despite being 100% opposed to mandatory vaccinations. Vaccines ave always been good for me. Even the occasional minor aggravation of very mild arthritis in my injection shoulder is not really enough of a negative for me to skip the flu shot.

Nevertheless, I am careful to note that vaccines give me just as many and just as strong minor, negative side effects as any drug – and MOST drugs have minor side-effects that I can observe and report.

The new shingles vaccine, in my case, had stronger side effects than almost ANY drug I had ever taken. Nevertheless, a BARGAIN next to the HORROR OF SHINGLES.

Wolf’s Hot Date With Retrosynthetic Dinopox

Wolf’s Chill Second Date With Retrosynthetic Dinopox

So I’m no fool – vaccines are REAL medicine – with real side effects. AND – if you’ve gotten the new shingles vaccine, then you know that vaccines are getting STRONGER so they can work STRONGER and LONGER.

HOWEVER…..

The entire CHINA VIRUS psy-op and election interference program has done nothing to make me any less suspicious of vaccines. Indeed, it has made me MORE suspicious, if not an actual skeptic. Too many agendas. Too many lies. Too many “whoops”. Too many cute abuses of science. Too many media hit jobs. Too much Bill Gates near any and all of the above.

And CHYYYNNAA through and through the whole nasty affair. China, the home of CCP ChiNazis who love to BLAME THE VICTIM.

And which CHINAZIS could easily be STERILIZING UIGHURS with STOLEN GSK vaccine technology RIGHT NOW.

Suspicious? HELL YES!

On the bright side, I would not have been made aware of mankind’s current capabilities for eugenocide, had I not been “awakened” on vaccines, so I consider my new suspicions a stroke of good luck for any and all groups which HAVE BEEN, ARE BEING, or WILL EVER BE slated for GENOCIDE.

Uighurs! WATCH YOUR SIX!!!

One of the reasons Epstein was schmoozing all the big brains in science was – I am convinced – keeping track of the infinite bad possibilities that led to “Never Again”. SO *** DING DING DING *** I sure hope THAT particular baby didn’t get thrown out with the dirty pedophile’s bathwater. How the “this time we won’t fail” time-bomb of sterilization vaccines could have proceeded to where it is without being disarmed tells me somebody was fooling somebody. TSK-TSK. Shame on EVERYBODY.

ANYWAY – back to topic.

I think you could call me a VACCINE CONSERVATIVE.

I am not necessarily averse to any class of vaccine as I categorize them, or as others categorize them. I could take a new-school vaccine. I could take an old-school vaccine. I might take ANY of them, including the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, provided the following:

  • vaccine has been found safe and effective to TRUMP’S satisfaction
  • vaccine has been TESTED and found safe and effective for people who have already had either COVID-19 or any other weak coronavirus
  • vanishingly small number of cases of super-serious side effects
  • basic technology has no critical theoretical weaknesses
  • proven to NOT result in immune enhancement phenomenon
  • basic technology must show LIFETIME SAFETY in individuals and their children, or be able to rule out dangers – INCLUDING STERILITY in both generations – to my satisfaction

The LAST requirement is the one which, right now, makes several of the “new-school” technologies very likely NO-GO ZONES for THE WOLF. Much SHADE is thus cast on DNA, RNA, and viral vector types.

And as for the Pfizer vaccine (mRNA), I am much likelier to pick a DIFFERENT vaccine, particularly a NEW-SCHOOL recombinant protein subunit, neo-classical vaccine – much like the shingles vaccine I just took. Novavax is one of those vaccines. If it can be proven NOT to produce immune enhancement, AND it can be proven to be safe for symptomatic COVID-19 recoverees with lung damage, then I’m very likely to take it.

DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines, and adenovirus vectors are ALL too new and unproven for me to trust. Some of these – maybe all of them – are relying on retreaded edge tech from earlier gene therapy failures.

These platforms MIGHT NOT cause cancer 50 years down the road, or cause sterility, or cause disease in CHILDREN of recipients. But the fact is simple – WE DON’T KNOW YET.

Remember DES?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

Now – if I was 70 years old, I would probably take the very first safe and effective DNA or mRNA vaccine to come to market, not expecting to live to 120, or to have any more kids. But that’s not the case. I’d love a few more decades. If I had a choice – AND I DO HAVE ONE – I’d prefer a more time-trusted technology like protein subunits. Most of all, I would trust a vaccine that got green-lighted by Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor University, an expert on immune enhancement in coronaviruses.

Adenovirus vectors? They already have “issues” of several kinds, including recipients either having or developing immunity to the platform itself. Perhaps not insurmountable, but there are other problems. For instance, we know that viruses have LIFELONG SIDE-EFFECTS. We’ve had decades to discover most of the important natural ones. AND – very disturbingly – we have a government health bureaucracy prominently led for years by a guy (Fauci) who not only forgot about HCQ and chloroquine – very economically conveniently for his vaccine and new therapeutic interests – he figured that the best way to deal with the inconvenient class of “slow, obscure, cancer-causing viruses” was to KICK THE PRIMARY RESEARCHER OF THEM OUT OF NIH.

Sorry – I would like to try these fascinating but risky modern vaccine platforms AFTER they have been checked and re-checked by a POST-FAUCI NIH/CDC/ETC.

And that doesn’t even begin to address this very important question. WHO IS MONITORING VACCINES to make sure that nobody is sneaking in sterility vaccine components? Components that were likely ALREADY TESTED IN AFRICA?

Is the Catholic Church even AWARE of the danger? WHERE is Pope Epstein-Guevara on this one? WITH the depopulationists? Happy to see humanity sterilized by the United Nations, as long as the “grave danger” of climate change is badly addressed?

Sorry. I’m not ready for any “mandatory” vaccine. Just on principle.

SO – you have a lot of choices in future COVID-19 vaccines, ranging from “none” to “any”.

I’m not going to tell you what to think or do.

But I hope that by addressing this issue for myself, I’ve given you some things to think about – so that your chosen position on vaccines will not merely be INFORMED, but FILLED WITH UNDERSTANDING.

And with that, I bid you GOOD HEALTH!


W

Remember when we could trust vaccines? We’re ONE election from heading back there.

Dear KMAG: 20200717 Open Topic / Medical Socialism Means Censorship / Euthanasia to Eugenics to Eugenocide / The Logical Triviality of X Matters / Happy Birthday, Gil's Kiddo!

This QTH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPENVERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).


Note which video from last week is NOW GONE.

https://youtu.be/kFD5sQjIyGg

If you recall, this was Dr. Kelly Victory’s video about COVID-19. More on the story below.


You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

YouTube will protect you from coronavirus misinformation, as determined by WHO [CHINA].

Medical Socialism Means Censorship

Medical socialism MUST censor what it does not want you to hear.

Remember Dr. Kelly Victory’s YouTube video from just last Friday? Here it is now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFD5sQjIyGg

And here it is, re-posted by somebody, and removed AGAIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0iGbD23sZo

Well, somebody named “Sam Q Public” did the public service of re-posting it ONE MOAR TIME, and here it is (for now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YEZlZZyJY

Susan Wocommie, familial Menshevik, is relentless, but WE ARE MOAR RELENTLESS.

And if you want to find Dr. Kelly on YouTube, well, here she is.

That one is from HER ACCOUNT, which you are free to FOLLOW.

So where is MEDICAL SOCIALISM taking us? GLAD YOU ASKED.


Euthanasia to Eugenics to Eugenocide

Where does Stalinist medical socialism lead? Where does it WANT to go?

It is my contention that medical socialism leads to CONTROL OF HUMANITY at a biological level. It will control who lives and who dies, and who (that lives) gets which organs of who (that dies).

Now, I’m not the biggest watcher of eugenics around, but certain things TRIGGER me into action, and Melinda Gates going “blacks first” on coronavirus vaccines was one of those things. To me, it was a SLIP – a careless “tell” that gave up the game.

Bill is much slicker. He is NEVER not in 100% cover-up mode. Melinda – well, shes’s simply not as good of a LIAR. So – as you can tell – I do NOT trust her motivation here.

So let’s talk about “emergency” coronavirus vaccines, but not too loudly, lest people in the media engage in their role of suppressing some thoughts, instilling others, and basically controlling what we think.

I was BORN just a FEW YEARS – a child’s lifetime – a few gray hairs – after somebody tried to *LITERALLY* wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. AND MORE. Black people were way up there on Hitler’s list. Trust me – if Hitler would have won, sterilization vaccines – NOW WORKING – is how he would have gotten rid of Africans, and made Africa a “white utopia”.

Do you believe me? That Hitler would have used modern science for genocide? Of course he would have.

And it’s not a one-time deal. GENOCIDE dressed up as EUGENICS dressed up as PUBLIC HEALTH is bound to happen again. It’s TOO EASY. People are TOO TRUSTING.

My mother, who SAW IT, told me all about it. And my father filled in the technical details.

Hitler’s eugenics movement had ONE GROUP of higher priority for “improving humanity” than Jews and communists, and almost NOBODY stood up for them – the disabled, the retarded, the infirm, and the bedridden. Yeah, I said “RETARD” – so you would REMEMBER. They change the LANGUAGE so you will FORGET HISTORY.

The “medical socialism” of Nazi Germany – their “death panels” – encountered little opposition to the elimination of those deemed “medically unfit”, so that is where it started.

Hitler and his bunch of psychopathic “national” socialists WARMED UP German society to genocide with the easy pickin’s.

That’s not much different from nursing homes, is it? First they keep you out – THEN they kill them.

MANY people get this – the anti-abortion people – the anti-euthanasia people – and many black people who are labeled “conspiracy theorists” – even the execrable Farrakhan. Not enough Jews get this nowadays, but they used to. When ELIMINATION OF JEWS was a recent historical FACT, Jews actually believed that re-creating the conditions needed to pull it off again might be a bad thing.

I am going to be very blunt, because I understand the science, but most people do not.

I am less disturbed by Iranian nukes, which CANNOT KILL ALL JEWS, than I am by American socialists, and beyond them the global socialists, who seem absolutely determined to GIVE the power to accomplish genocide “medically” to the STATE.

And HERE’S THE RUB.

99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY – just like it was in Hitler’s Germany.

I repeat, for the benefit of EVERYBODY on our side.

99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY.

Well, what SECRET do we have HERE?

Is ANY GROUP understanding the danger here? A lot of blacks do. Thank GOD for that. Even the HORRIBLE FARRAKHAN has his saving grace, of realizing that “eugenocide” of blacks is something a LOT of people would NOT risk their LIVES to fight.

I’ll just say it right here. If you’re not watching out for the genocide of OTHERS, you’re not going to be there for genocide against YOU.

The Nazis used a SLICK combination of two things:

(1) OPENLY making the public moderately comfortable with genocide, by selling EUGENOCIDE – the allegedly morally, ethically, and socially acceptable elimination of some group – such as those who exist only by the charity of others, and who are often in some discomfort or pain, and who have a “low quality of life” by the standards of others.

(2) SECRETLY enacting REAL genocide, using bureaucracy as both a COVER and an enabler.

Once every individual is “speech-separated” from every other individual in a socialist society, people are AFRAID TO DISCUSS delicate topics, like “what is Hitler really doing with the Jews?

Under those circumstances, everybody is IN FEAR OF THE STATE. People do NOT talk about what might get THEMSELVES – as an individual – in trouble.

So TROUBLE befalls EVERYBODY.

We cannot allow this SILENCING to happen in America. If we do, then GENOCIDE – starting off with EUGENOCIDE – is not far behind.

Eugenocide will not look like this:

Nor will it look like this (from Cloud Atlas):

It will look like this:

Now this picture is actually very innocent. There is a FAKE NEWS item that says this is Obama, Fauci, and Melinda Gates in the Wuhan lab.

NO.

It is at NIH, during the Ebola crisis. AND there are very similar pictures of TRUMP and Fauci at NIH, during the COVID-19 epidemic.

Both are innocent. AND THAT IS MY POINT.

What follows MAY be innocent, too. But nevertheless, based on exactly how Hitler DECEIVED Jews with a “nice story” about where they were ALL going, EUGENOCIDE will look more like this:

I ain’t sayin’ Melinda Gates wants to kill Blacks and Injuns. But I’m saying – very clearly – that when somebody DOES try to kill Blacks and Injuns, it’s gonna look JUST LIKE THAT – if not even more charitable. It will be NICE, and it will be RACIALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, or otherwise SELECTIVE based on a potentially EUGENIC division.

I’ll explain how it would be done in another post. When you realize how easy it is – RIGHT NOW – to carry out secret genocide, and LOOK like you’re doing the opposite – it will scare the #### out of you.

Are y’all starting to see why ORIGINAL AMERICAN RACE-FREE is the BRAND YOU CAN TRUST?

Good.

Next item.


The Logical Triviality of X Matters

The evil genius of “Black Lives Matter” is that it is three things at once.

  • Trivially True
  • Incomplete
  • Almost Meaningless

Saying “Black Lives Matter” is like saying all of the following.

  • White Lives Matter
  • Pencils Matter
  • Slaves Matter
  • Heroes Matter
  • Villains Matter
  • Ted Bundy Matters
  • American Flag Matters
  • Trump Matters
  • Pedophiles Matter
  • Books Matter
  • Matter Matters
  • Mass Matters
  • Something Matters
  • Nothing Matters
  • Things Matter
  • X =

The temptation is to make it MORE MEANINGFUL – by saying something like – I don’t know – maybe “All Lives Matter”. That is a TRICK – to bait you into the appearance of negating or disagreeing with a trivially true statement – one which moreover has an IMPLIED GOOD MESSAGE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

Democrats are saying “X equals”. If you say in response that X equals ANYTHING, or add some condition, build some theorem, or draw some corollary, you have fallen for the trick.

Let’s be honest. Throw away all your preconceptions about the phrase BLM, and who is behind it.

Do black lives matter? Just answer THAT question, with no BUH BUH BUH about what comes next.

Of course they matter. Here is the logic:

IF {All Lives Matter}
AND {Black Lives Is A Subset Of All Lives}
THEN {Black Lives Matter} = TRUE

Ignore the organization. Ignore the Marxists. Ignore the riots. Ignore the violence.

The statement {Black Lives Matter} is TRIVIALLY TRUE.

The phrase “black lives matter” is actually not very comforting, but people presume that it is. Note that people who think black lives are worth only 3/5 of a white life, can AGREE with the statement “black lives matter”. People who think black lives are worth nothing more than the cost of a CREMATORY RIDE can agree with the statement. People who think black lives are a NEGATIVE, and need to be eliminated with sterility vaccine components snuck into specific lots of a coronavirus vaccine, can agree with that statement.

Yup. Here is a NAZI agreeing with “Black Lives Matter”:

“Black lives matter. We had better do something about them before they overpopulate.”

The incomplete statement “black lives matter” is actually very insidious. Sometimes I think the biggest racists in America – perhaps some secret Nazi grandchildren left over from WWII and Operation Paperclip, came up with this gimmick.

Here is what Wolf Moon says – a much more meaningful statement.

“Black lives matter as much as white lives. Will you agree, Democrats?”

This puts the Democrats back on the spot. “All Lives Matter” does not. If the Democrats try to say that black lives matter in any way not equal to white lives – either MORE or LESS – they are TOAST. But they don’t. They RACE-BAIT unassailably with the safely meaningless phrase “black lives matter”.

Democrats are doing what they have done since slavery – teaching SOME blacks, by horrible example and evil psychology born of the master-slave relationship, how to be tricky and deceitful like them.

Democrats are teaching blacks to play a MIND GAME that turns them against Trump voters, who will predictably try to “de-race-ify” “Black Lives Matter” into “All Lives Matter” – a noble gesture which plays the weakest card in the white hand, and psychologically tells black people on behalf of Democrats “these guys are not really your friends – WE ARE – because we say ‘black lives matter’ without questioning it.

A nasty trick.

SO – don’t be afraid to admit the Truth.

Black lives matter.

Or – if you really want to get their goat – black lives matter as much as white lives.

You don’t disagree with that, Democrats – do you?

DO YOU?

Yeah. Watch the commies stutter, stumble, trip and fall.

AND LASTLY…..


Happy Birthday, Gil’s Kiddo!

Today is Gil’s Kiddo’s B-Day. AND I QUOTE….


gil00

Hi everyone here! I an going to ask for a very nice favor from everyone. Kiddo’ 7th birthday is Friday, on Q day. 7/17 how nice is that? Summer birthdays are hard with friends scattered on vacation(I know bc my birthday was today/yesterday) but this year he has had no friends to do anything with.

Would you all individually take a moment and post a message, poem, worldly 7 year old appropriate joke or gif, or good advice for his future?

This is only if Wolf or mods are ok with it.

I will print out what I can and save everything else. He knows about the site so getting told Happy Birthday by other people will make him extremely happy.

Thanks in advance.
Have a great Thursday!

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OK – I’ll say it – in the BIGGEST LETTERS HERE.

<3 HAPPY BIRTHDAY! <3


OK – That’s it. LET ‘ER RIP!!!

W

WOLF LIVES MATTER!