“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Here we go, people. LAST CALL. I want to hear your FINAL PREDICTIONS.
Sessions. Rosenstein. Mueller.
White hat? Gray hat? Black hat?
To make matters even trickier, check THIS out….
Check the DATE on that puppy! Just after midnight this morning.
I mean – is that a REAL TWEET?
Yes, but things MAY or MAY NOT be what they SEEM – even TWEETS….
OR ARE THEY???
“Things are not always what they seem; the first appearance deceives many; the intelligence of a few perceives what has been carefully hidden.” – Phaedrus (Plato)
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AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
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I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE the DRAINING of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
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REMEMBER….
Russiagate is now MUHRUSSIAGATE.
This guy went after FBI corruption & ties to mob in Boston. Stepped in to help clear 4 innocent men convicted of murder. Whitey Bulger case. Hooray.
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
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NOW….
THREE THINGS TONIGHT:
1.
Although I now have FOUR NIGHTS a week covered by authors (other than myself) who want to do Daily Threads, as follows, I am still looking for more.
Monday – Wheatietoo
Tuesday – Wolf Moon
Wednesday – Wolf Moon
Thursday – Wolf Moon
Friday – ForGodandCountry
Saturday – Wheatietoo
Sunday – ThinkThinkThink
If you think you would like to take one of the remaining “Wolf” days (T, W. Th, meaning you post the night before at midnight), please let me know. I am encouraged by the great reception that our Daily Thread authors are getting, and would love to add one or two new Daily Thread authors to take maximum advantage of this effect.
You need to be US-based, operating from a secure home computer (not on a roaming laptop or mobile device), and otherwise pass somewhat rougher vetting than even Wolf’s Extreme Vetting which posters normally pass. Some upstanding interested people in deep blue zones may simply be put on hold until enough of the swamp is IN JAIL, at which point American security will automatically tighten.
The reasons I am now being a bit more cautious about (a) location of authors, and (b) making sure that this place could run smoothly if I were, say, indisposed due to some kind of LAWFARE plot, has to do with both items 2 and 3. I believe that my strongest earlier suspicions about DOJ and FBI under Rosenstein are now confirmed. More on that below.
So if you’re interested, please let me know.
2.
There is an article in Human Events about AG Barr that your really need to read. HOWEVER, WordPress goes NUTS if the URL “embeds”, so here is a masked link:
I will also embed the URL at the END of this post, where it can’t mess anything up.
This article explains my theory on Barr, Mueller and Rosenstein in LEGAL terms.
To ME, it confirms that Rosey is a black hat who has more successfully than anybody masked himself. He was willing to let OTHERS decide Trump’s fate, once he created the corrupt Mueller process. This is how they created plausible deniability of malicious intent. Rosey threw the magic potato that turned into a grenade and said “That’s OK, just follow the process for throwing potatoes and all will be well. See? I agree with Bill Barr now that he’s my boss.”
It’s LAWFARE. I can SEE IT. Others did, too, and that is why they booted Sessions to get somebody to END THE LAWFARE based on BAD LAW (the subsection in question, which will eventually go to SCOTUS, and which is the basis of Democrat obstruction traps).
I believe that the NEED to bring in Barr is related to the “change” in “Trust Sessions” – that there was a need to stop “trusting” him and replace him. Basically, a CHANGE in the plan. In my opinion, people RIGHTLY stopped trusting Rosey, but they needed to remove SESSIONS to get past Rosey the Rook, who had castled with King Robert of Mueller.
Whatever. Water under the bridge, but WE were pawns in it. WE had to go, so that Trump supporters who liked Sessions would get out of the way of FALLING SESSIONS, who pretty much fell on his sword.
3.
The Democrats are extremely serious about 2020. I am seeing plot investments on a scale which DWARFS anything I have seen before.
I believe that the Democrats and black hats have LOST access to NSA data on me, and that this explains why there has been a relatively large degree of calm in my life. HOWEVER, I have now discovered how they intend to remedy that situation, and it’s fairly ingenious. Independent discovery of the same by the White Hats will validate.
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#Collusioner Evelyn Farkas, former Obama official, also has egg on her face in wake of Mueller report exonerating Trump of collusion pic.twitter.com/0UlH4tYQSM
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SOMEBODY has a BIRTHDAY coming up…..
SAVE THE DATE!!!
Until then, check out the GREAT FLOTUS slideshow in THIS article:
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Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
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Our movement
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By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
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Everything is a bit different now.
OK – Let’s be more specific….
OH, HECK – let’s just be obvious as HELL!!!
You just HAVE to love Trump’s “press conference” today!!!
President Trump at the White House: “I just want to tell you that America is the greatest place on Earth. The greatest place on Earth." pic.twitter.com/9yQvuR2FGC
I personally think that the Mueller report was “fair” – even the part about not fully exonerating on obstruction, because the reality is that the legalities of presidential power in terms of firing crooked staff who have some degree of power OVER or AGAINST the office of the President are all VERY murky, and Mueller was right to not “exonerate” more than he could both LEGALLY and TRUTHFULLY. There is a lot of unsettled law here, IMO.
NOW – my theory on what actually happened does not fully exonerate Bob Mueller, either. I may be wrong about this, but if Mueller was just pretending to go after Trump, he sure was doing a good job. I think he and Weissmann “took the job seriously”, and were ready to “go the extra Cohen mile” and do things like dishonor attorney-client privilege, in order to harass Trump throughout his ONLY (their thinking) four years.
Like I say – the Mueller SC could have been an act, but if so, it was a good one. They also let Bob Mueller be a snake before Trump even got serious about becoming President, during the Clinton administration. That is PROMPT action!
Anyway, my “post-Mueller” thoughts today…..
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wolfmoon1776 March 24, 2019 at 23:03 E Roberta – in *MY* opinion, Mueller, Rosenstein and Weissmann WERE colluding with the impeachment agenda, and fully intended to create bogus indictments of the Trump kids, in particular to try to “brazen out” the Veselnitskaya FRAMING of Donald Trump, Jr. This could have allowed Mueller to control the evidence of Russian involvement there, so that – as his DOWN SIDE, they could protect Loretta Lynch and others, and particularly all those in the Deep State / DNC who were colluding with Russia on Uranium One, etc. The UP SIDE would have been to build a “pre-impeachment narrative” up to the 2020 election, and then LEAVE THE QUESTION HANGING for the election. I believe BARR came in and called BULLSHIT on the evidence against Don Jr., likely saying that the evidence looked equally good (actually greater, but assume he played his hand lightly) that somebody was SETTING UP Don Jr. Since Matt Whitaker had cut off the fishing expedition, that was all they had. Weissmann left DISCREDITED – his prize indictments on the cutting room floor. Mueller had to wrap up what they had – NOTHING. BUT – and this is key – no proof HERE that Mueller and Rosey would have done EXACTLY what we know they would have done, if Barr had not come in, and ROSENSTEIN would have rendered the verdict on proceeding with Weissmann’s bullshit indictments (which I’m SURE he would have). The LAWFARE GANG is very careful to do as LITTLE which is OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL as possible. Thus, I believe that Mueller punted – not to the Dems, but to TRUMP. It was the only thing he could do. NO “Don Junior suspicion leverage field goal” for Team Black Hat. Instead, they had to punt, and TRUMP now has the ball. Liked by 1 person Reply
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Candidate Donald J. Trump
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Beware of Sideshow Bob
Whom the gods would destroy, they first make a Simpsons character.
In predicting how the various players of he Deep State will perform, it is helpful to know what PATTERNS of behavior can be expected from them. It took me years of studying Barack Obama to go from “Obama hopeful” to “Obama needsta” to “WTF, Obama!” to “Obama’s not actually gonna – is he?” to “I’ll bet Obama will” to – at long last – to “Obama WILL do this – just WATCH“.
Robert Mueller has been an enigma to me. At one time, I thought he might even be a white hat – an honest guy – maybe even Trump’s salvation.
I wasn’t the only one. A lot of us thought that. Let’s be honest.
That “charm” of looking white hat is indeed a Mueller “super-power”.
Eventually, however, when I was confronted with the fact that Mueller had made multiple “conveniently bad” prosecutions, it dawned on me that something was terribly wrong.
Finally, when it became clear that Mueller and Comey were INSTRUMENTAL in making sure that Osama bin Laden did NOT get blamed for the Khobars Tower attack, THAT is when I really knew something was DEFINITELY WRONG.
However, knowing that Mueller isn’t a white hat, and may even be a black hat, is not the same as being able to predict what he will do.
I may STILL not be QUITE there yet, but I am a lot closer thanks to Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch, and Sundance.
The best way to approach this question is the line of inquiry Sundance is following:
Here is the highly relevant text by Sundance (my emphasis in bold):
In essence, after the FBI claimed to have broken off formal use of Chris Steele; and long after Robert Mueller took over the investigation; Ohr remained an intermediary between Chris Steele and Robert Mueller’s special counsel team.
Obviously this begs the question: if the special counsel was simply investigating the truth of the dossier, why would Robert Mueller want/need an intermediary as opposed to directly being in contact with, and questioning, the dossier author directly?
Tom Fitton’s likely accurate (highlighted) statement above; showcasing a compromised intent; would explain why Mueller’s team would need an intermediary.
Nellie Ohr and Chris Steele were the authors of the Clinton-financed dossier. The dossier was the primary evidence for the entire corrupt investigative enterprise. The dossier is the lynch-pin of evidence that validated the Title-1 FISA warrant used against Carter Page and all campaign officials therein.
As a direct result of the origination, Mueller’s later mandate from Rosenstein is based on that dossier. As a result, inside that dynamic there is a motive for Mueller’s team to stay away from discovering anything that might invalidate the dossier if they wanted to: (a) continue the appearance of legality for the prior exploitation; and (b) continue extending the investigation that is dependent on the dossier.
If things went sideways, direct contact with the central witness and dossier author removes plausible deniability. Indirect contact, via an intermediary (Bruce Ohr), allows retention of plausible deniability and continuance of dossier use.
The document pdf file is here. CTH is reviewing the information overnight tonight.
ADD: This is the same reason why Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson are not on the witness list of people and entities announced by House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler.
Sundance, The Conservative Treehouse, 3/7/2019
Here is what happened next. Here is my REVELATION.
I realized this meant that Mueller was PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW THINGS
That means Mueller was following the MAMET PRINCIPLE
It was time for me to break out my favorite meme about the MAMET PRINCIPLE, which uses the Rosatom logo to imply that rank-and-file DEMOCRATS “pretend not to know” about Hillary and Uranium One.
That image is shown at the top.
Random thought – wasn’t MUELLER involved with Uranium One?
Didn’t MUELLER let the deal go though so oddly, almost as if…..
MUELLER’S SPECIAL POWER IS “PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW”
Suddenly, things are making sense everywhere, throughout Robert Mueller’s history.
The man was the perfect PUTZ to put in charge of FBI, yet he fakes being a MENSCH very nicely. Mueller has GRAVITAS down like a champ, but when push came to shove, POLITICS WINS and Mueller PRETENDS in whatever way is needed by those calling the “virtue” shots.
In other words, he’s FAKE just like the rest of these establishment goons. And he “goes with the flow” of the socialist takeover – NO PROBLEMO – by pretending not to know what he damn well knows.
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Robert Mueller (L) laughs alongside Attorney General Eric Holder (R) and Deputy Attorney General James Cole (C) during a farewell ceremony in Mueller’s honor at the Department of Justice on August 1, 2013. Mueller is retiring from the FBI after 12-years as Director. AFP PHOTO / Saul LOEB (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)
For me, the veil is really lifted on this guy.
We now UNDERSTAND his Achilles heel.
SELF-DECEPTION by PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW – YET HE DOES KNOW.
He simply pretends that there is no fire in the crowded theater, as ordered.
This is a great day for MAGA. There is damn well going to be a TON of evidence that Robert Mueller KNEW things and EVADED their public disclosure so that he could continue to PRETEND NOT TO KNOW.
It will be a pattern, it will be long-running, and it will have a lot bigger implications than #Spygate.
Is “Second Strzok” David Bowdich an “Untouchable” or a “New McCabe”?
And is Lisa Page an Intelligence Idiot or the Super-Spy Who Fooled Congress?
I was wondering why I was picking up heat of certain extremely interesting kinds.
Starting and maintaining this troublesome little website was bound to cause annoyance in DC, but I was surprised when that heat took on a characteristically federal nature that suggested the FBI was involved.
The actors (COUGH, COUGH) were not interested in information that might solve America’s problems. They seemed interested in information that might solve THEIR problems. WE being a part of those problems. ME being a particular one of those problems.
Interesting.
If people are starting to understand why I’m taking precautions to preserve this site in my absence, now you’re likely getting ideas why precautions are necessary.
Q said “You have more than you know.” He was NOT lying.
In a prior post, here, I talked about certain principles of information reversal that are particularly useful for what the other side is up to, blame-casting THEIR commie collusions on President Trump. It all gets very confusing, but I think that stating those ideas once again is useful.
First, the general principle:
The CLOSER the straw-man [accusation] can be arranged, FACTUALLY, to the REALITY being covered up, the EASIER the defense, because the STORY is closer to the REALITY, and pieces of the REALITY can be used as “proof” of the STORY – particularly if the STORY is advanced FIRST and the disentangled REALITY is posited LATER in defense.
This is then followed by three corollaries:
Counterintelligence is the perfect place for this sort of intrigue, since counterintelligence amounts to infiltration of infiltration, staying infinitely close to the original infiltration. Basically, getting CLOSE to the REALITY with a DECEPTION is part of the game, so counterintelligence is a natural place to SEED this kind of defense.
The ploy of reversed accusation becomes even easier and possibly even necessary if the enemy actually IS colluding with the accusing compromised or corrupted counterintelligence. This allows the enemy to “assist” the lies of the other side’s compromised counterintelligence, keeping them in place. This means that the counterintelligence people, if corrupted by the enemy, can then be “helped” by the enemy – in schemes exactly like what we are observing. Like I said, “19” [money dump plausibly matching amount offered to Carter Page] may have been a gift from Russia with love, or at least alliance.
One of the first places that should be subverted by the enemy, both directly and indirectly, is counterintelligence.
THOSE were followed by some ideas that bring it all back to
COMEYWORLD:
The Hillary email cover-up by the SAME participants as in the FRAMING of Trump, is the BEGINNING of the revelation of the other half of the story – the COVER-UP. The TIGHTNESS of the same cast of characters in the Mueller cover-up fake investigation and the HRC email exoneration / cover-up is a kind of give-away of the theory I posited earlier.
Go back and review what I said, if it doesn’t make sense. It should. You can also see why the interception of the plot – by releasing text messages of Page and Strzok to force them out of the Mueller probe – was clearly the result of extremely skilled “IG-type work” in counter-intelligence. It’s not about the messages. It’s about the plot.
Wolf Moon, “The Framing of a President as the Cover-Up of Treason”
NOW – if you understand why POPPING STRZOK and McCABE out of the FBI was so important to bringing the continuing Hillary MADNESS roughly half-way to a close, you will understand the importance of what SUNDANCE – and unknown patriots who got some of Lisa Page’s information to him – just did.
He’s using “same-player” to MAKE A BUST.
First things first, I *URGE* you to read this post by Sundance.
Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…
Sundance makes some extremely important points that show we now have a half-full glass of MAGA, where previously many saw it either empty or full. And it was the PERSISTENCE of our Granular Brother who found the key which unlocks the mystery. And maybe opens a new one.
“Really it’s the people that met with Jim Comey. Those are the only people that were really the same with respect to both teams. So it’s the same general counsel, the same deputy general counsel, me, Mr. McCabe, Dave Bowdich. The EAD for National Security Branch changed, but that was just because of regular personnel turnover.
Lisa Page, emphasis by Sundance
Many of us were trying to figure out how David Bowdich rose to the level of Deputy FBI Director under Chris Wray. [Bowdich was previously the FBI field office head for the San Bernardino terrorist attack investigation in California] Now we see that Bowdich was at the center of the small group in Washington DC who were doing the Trump investigation. This reconciles why the current FBI is blocking the release of the witness transcripts. Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?…
Sundance, emphasis by Wolf Moon
Bowdich, I believe, is key. I had earlier thought that my “heat” might have Muellerish origins, but what if we have a “New McCabe” in place – WELLLLLL, that would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?
I am not automatically convinced that Bowdich is crooked, because I tend to think that Wray is a straight-shooter, and would pick straight-shooters. I differ with utmost respect with Sundance on this point. But straight-shooters often have certain weaknesses, and one of them is being somewhat manipulable – particularly in a corrupt institution. Bowdich has taken DOWN corrupt institutions. But has he ever stopped to think that he might have worked IN ONE for DECADES?
It’s a weird feeling.
Bowdich isn’t just connected to the sketchy San Bernardino “event” – he’s also connected to a prior sketchy incident – the “LAX shooter” named Paul Ciancia (you know – as in “CIA ‘n’ CIA”) who rescued TSA from public weariness single-handedly.
Note how Bowdich “graduated” from this sketchy event to the next one in San Bernardino. ALL THE WAY TO TRUMP.
Now I’m not saying this guy is a bad guy. But I think there are several possibilities.
(1) Bowdich may have been closely observed by the McCabians to make sure he didn’t get any career-killing “conspiracy theory” ideas about sketchy events. He may have been brought forward precisely because he was “safe”. But that also means he has a blind spot that a CIA panel truck can drive right through, any time it wants. Of course such a person could be talked into reverso WRONG investigations like Trump or (COUGH) other people. This would explain a lot.
(2) Bowdich was “read in” on the sketchy gun grab events, and knew exactly why this stuff straight out of Bill Cooper was happening. He is then most likely exactly as Sundance is calling it – covering stuff up because of knowledge.
(3) Bowdich was NOT read in BEFORE, but is now aware of what the heck is going on, and he is covering up things for strategic reasons we don’t know, which could be good or bad. All bets are off, here. There is a possibility of UNTOUCHABLE, and things are getting interesting.
Bottom line – David Bowdich is a new variable that could be anywhere from “New McCabe” to “Untouchable”. And we know he’s covering up stuff for SOME reason.
I love the way I can “speculate well out ahead” of where Sundance’s more painstaking and granular approach goes, but when you need highly directed sunlight, his laser focus cannot be beat. So let’s start off with the FINALE to his post:
There’s a hell of a lot more to be learned from the Lisa Page testimony, specifically about the role of the CIA in the overall operation…
However, for me personally, her outline of Bowdich in the main FBI DC office -as connected to the larger investigation- completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.
DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions. Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowdich as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.
The picture we get here is how the 2015/2016 officials within the corrupt DOJ and FBI enterprise, were put into higher office in the Trump administration 2017/2018; and those same officials are currently occupying positions that allow them to keep their prior corrupt activity hidden.
This whole thing is FUBAR.
Sundance, his emphasis
Let me re-emphasize something from that:
“However, for me personally, her outline of Bowdich in the main FBI DC office – as connected to the larger investigation – completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.” –Sundance, my emphasis
Good G_d in Heaven, I could have written those words myself. Although I am talking about a certain SMALLER investigation.
I *knew* it was Radium Rod coming at me, but I just didn’t know HOW he was doing it. I thought that the MUELLER SHOW was the only BAD ACT in FBI Town. And the Mueller Show had ZERO plausible rhyme or reason to go after me. Oh, yeah, they can put RUSSIANS into anybody’s world (COUGH, COUGH, note previous corollaries), but they can’t really mix them with Trump, so that part sucks for them.
There is no REVERSO to set up a STRAW MAN to go after me. There are ways to do REVERSO – as was done on Trump – but it’s more tied to CANKLES and OBAMA and OTHER THINGS.
So how does Q say it? “BOOM!”? I think that’s the proper expression.
As soon as I saw that we could potentially have a NEW McCABE in place, or somebody who could be bamboozled by OLD McCABES – as in McCabe’s finest “leavings”, everything started making SENSE. They don’t HAVE to go through Mueller – they can do reverso on other things.
And it’s not like they didn’t try that ALREADY.
If Q know what I mean.
Certain people have a NEW COVER-UP needed, AND they need to shut me up about everything ELSE we talk about here.
WHATEVER. I simply want to thank Sundance for providing the key that solves the mystery. NOW I know where my friends and fellow patriots can point their fingers, should I not return in a most excellent condition to this blog, after my brief (yes, brief) absence.
Now – one more thing I notice about Lisa Page. Originally I had this gal pegged for some kind of CIA super-asset that was using Strzok like her personal, Hillary-electing, “spot massage” device. Little did I realize, it was the OTHER WAY AROUND on CIA connections. But I’m STILL on the fence about whether this woman is (1) a dope and a dupe, or (2) an extremely cunning super-spy who has Congress totally bamboozled.
Two CIA bots in the sack? Don’t get me started. In the sack is where everybody wants everybody. Well, not quite. But I digress.
This LEAK may mean it’s the latter – she’s TROUBLE and somebody KNOWS IT, and they needed to LEAK IT. If it’s true that BOWDICH hid her testimony because of what I’m going to say, then things get interesting.
I begin.
After reading that Lisa Page worked for Bruce Ohr for years, I started to think that maybe she really was just some poor cog in the machine, not qualified for counterintelligence, swept up as a desirable dupe in a non-functional, or better yet, reverse-purposed FBI.
But then OH MY GOD – you simply cannot get closer to Russia on this side of the Atlantic than Nellie Ohr, Russia researcher and specialist, with more downstate New York red commie ties than I can shake a stick at. The fact that she almost perfectly parallels ANOTHER “spent some time in Russia” lady academic who is deeply connected to both American communists and the Tree of Life synagogue shooting – well, that is even more worrisome to me. All these weird “puppets of Russia” or sketchy Russians working on the fringes of plots against Trump – it’s just so WEIRD.
[I keep working on the fascinating Tree of Life / Russia post, but it keeps getting delayed. SOON. Hopefully whoever was on my computer in a white hatty way while I was researching that is ahead of me.]
No matter whether Lisa Page is a dupe or a super-spy, I think that the plotters thought she was SAFE. She is either safe because she’s super-unqualified and a DUPE, or safe because she’s super-devious.
We really need to find out WHICH.
Here is the key that proves something is up. This is an extensive quote from Jeff Carlson’s article in The Epoch Times, citing Lisa Page:
Page Denies Bias, But Says FBI Focused More on Trump Than Clinton
Page steadfastly maintained there was no bias present in either the Clinton-email investigation or the Trump-Russia investigation on the part of anyone within the FBI or the DOJ and went to some lengths to illustrate that, in general, FBI personnel don’t like most of the people they tend to investigate.
At the same time, Page repeatedly and openly admitted to placing a greater emphasis and weight on the Trump-Russia investigation than the Clinton-email investigation:
“If you were weighing resources with respect to which poses a graver threat to national security, which is more, frankly, important, there is no doubt—at least in mine or anybody else’s mind that I know—that the Russia investigation posed an incredible threat to national security, and whether we got into the Weiner laptop simply did not.”
Page returned to this topic several times:
“The notion that there might be more emails that have not previously been seen that existed on Hillary Clinton’s email server just simply don’t even enter into the realm of the same room of seriousness. The Clinton investigation involved activities that had taken place 3 years prior. It’s an entirely historical investigation.”
“In the assessment of the Counterintelligence Division, they still don’t even come close to the threat posed if Russia had co-opted a member of a political campaign.”
Jeff Carlson, The Epoch Times, citing Lisa Page
To me, this is MIND-BLOWINGLY BACKWARDS. A long-term criminal threat going BEHIND THE DESK in the Oval Office is 1,000,000 times worse than some slightly Russified POLITICAL HACK going into a campaign – EVEN as an adviser.
She. Is. LYING.
The question is WHY.
What she is saying is garbage, and needs an explanation. And if that explanation has anything to do with David Bowdich, it had better be because Q is not bullshit and Wray is turning around the FBI underneath all these fuckers, and Page has to hide what is really going on. Otherwise just call out the tanks.
There is no comparison. If Hillary Clinton obstructed the FBI in a criminal fashion [HELLO, STONETEAR], likely done to hide international crimes up to and including espionage, this is INFINITELY more dangerous than Trump having some happy dupe named Carter Page working for him (assuming the most likely REAL threat by Carter Page was being a Russian dupe). In fact, even the scenario of “Carter Page = Carlos” compares at microscopic levels to the enormous problem of “Hillary Clinton = Ethel Rosenberg”.
Are we all seeing this?
And NONE of this takes into account the absolutely historically incorrect nature of the Lisa Page argument. She even USES the word “historical”. Holy FUCK – that’s ballsy.
Espionage is fought and won in the PAST – not the future. Hillary *herself* has MOUNTAINS of sketchy past that the FBI was IGNORING at every turn. And the’re worried about an adviser on the FRINGE of the Trump campaign in the FUTURE? Seriously?
This is CRAP. It is the most brazen form of bullshittery imaginable.
And this woman is making counterintelligence decisions?
Does everybody see what I’m saying? Page is either stupid or lying.
Could they REALLY have picked somebody THAT STUPID for this job?
I could be very wrong about that, but I’m starting to think this woman is lying her ass off here. I’m starting to think she is PLAYING DUMB ON HILLARY.
But let’s assume for a moment that Lisa Page IS dumb on actual espionage, subversion, and communism. To me, this absolute FAILURE to understand long-term communist subversion shows an incredible “pwnage” of the highest levels of the counterintelligence division of the FBI.
In fact, the following Lisa Page quote in the same article, makes me want to face-palm, if the SAME Lisa Page who believes the above, believes what I cite below.
Page, who acknowledged her personal relationship with Strzok at several points during the interview, noted that initially, Strzok was not “brought over as the senior executive to run the investigation. Another individual was, and that was not successful. It was not a good match with Mr. Mueller. He did not really have the sufficient counterintelligence background to be effective.” That individual would later be identified as John Brown.
Lisa Page, my emphasis
Sorry, I am NOT buying that.
EXPLAIN it to us, Ms. Page, AS YOU WOULD TO A CHILD.
And NO, you cannot hide behind your “sources and methods” Halperoid Oxford / Cambridge Communist bullshit.
No. I’m starting to think that Mueller spotted Mr. Brown as a WHITE HAT. Page helped shuffle him out the door. Reds, dupes, “Strzok specials” and fellow travelers only.
Did these people at DOJ and FBI have any true understanding of Hillary Clinton?
Some did, I’m sure. The most ideological of players – people like Eric Holder surely did. THE RADICALS. Maybe “Comey the Commie”, although he strikes me as far more of a venal go-along, and less of a true believer.
I’m not sure about McCabe. I’m not even sure if most of those who were “read in” on the communist plots, such as the long range gun ban revealed by Bill Cooper, actually REALIZED they were carrying out communist plots. But they must have followed orders properly, and knew how to cover things up properly, because we know very well how highly THAT skill is valued by these Obama players.
And if Bowdich WAS involved in the stuff Bill Cooper revealed, then yes – he might have some utility in covering it up.
“Cover-up? Don’t cover me up, bro!”
In any case, the psychological control of the FBI was complete under Obama. Nobody at lower levels had a CLUE. Evidence that might have broken the glass-smooth mirror surface of FAKE NEWS illusion at FBI was quickly handed over to complicit individuals in charge of DUPES, fellow travelers and yes-people.
I CRY that this Sally Moyer chick was allowed anywhere NEAR anything Hillary.
And that now CONTINUES – and WILL CONTINUE – as long as people who are part of the tortoise-slow plot to BRAINWASH AGAINST GUNS are in charge.
If they were READ IN on the murders, then they need to be KICKED OUT.
Remember. There ARE no accidents. Not any more.
NEW McCABE? Let us hope not. AYE-YI-YI, let us hope not.
Pray to G_D that this guy really IS an Untouchable.
And Lisa Page? She is NOT telling the truth. FIGURE IT OUT.
Q: How does one deflect and distract from some of the most enormous crimes in the history of humanity?
A: By making some of the biggest false accusations in history right next to those crimes, so that there is a plausible reason for some of the key participants to seek out and cover up any and all evidence of those crimes.
And it all needed to be done inside a 4-year time-frame, before the 2020 presidential election.
Today there are fresh insights into how the DNC-CIA-FBI-MSM criminal complex framed Donald J. Trump, using the HRC-DNC-DOJ-Fusion-Russia-originated Steele “dossier”.
This is excellent journalism by a writer for Tablet magazine, appearing in The Federalist today. It does not so much bring new facts, as it does sew all that is known into a tight case for HOW the framing of Donald Trump worked, and why it worked so well.
I urge people to read this article. This explains HALF the story – the FRAMING of President Trump.
I urge you to at least SKIM the article now. If you actually read it, you will get a few subtle references in what follows.
One of the most important findings – the VALUE of falsely investigating “nobodies” with bogus FISA warrants, is a brilliant insight of particular concern to anybody who has wandered too close to the treason. That would include ME.
And note that the author says this dossier false accusation model is now a PATTERN being used by the communists Democrats.
However, like I said, the FRAMING is only HALF the story. To see WHY this framing was not just desirable, but NECESSARY – as a form of COVER-UP – one must go further.
To begin, let’s look at the TYPE of framing we are dealing with. The framing of Donald Trump is a form of “cover-up by straw-man accusation of the accuser’s crimes being committed by the opponent“.
People often attribute a very specific quote about this sort of thinking – “accuse the other side of that which you are doing” – to the Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.
However, this attribution is a bit of a distortion of the real quote, which – if you study the original speech and note Goebbels’ acceptance of such thinking as a valid tool – is just as horrifying.
Observe:
“The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing.”
Joseph Goebbels, 1934, Nuremberg rally
If you read that original speech, you will see that the Nazis literally embraced the SAME “ends-justify-the-means” thinking about false accusations – they merely said that THEIR ends were good, whereas the ends of Marxist, Allied and “liberal-Jewish” factions using such propaganda were “bad”.
Note that the term “Jewish” was used to load the liberal/progressive causes of the time, which may indeed have been using some of the same “social justice” techniques that we see now, with a “useful antisemitism”. This is a perfect demonstration of the Nazi contempt for ALL Jews, since religious Jews, like Christians, are among the last on Earth to embrace the commandment-violating sin of false accusation.
This is not only a theoretically advantageous technique – it is practically advantageous. It opens up legal channels which ALLOW the cover-up to proceed. It is particularly useful thanks to the “special counsel” which James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, and Robert Mueller seemed just a wee bit to eager to open, and which – in retrospect – seemed to be just a wee bit too “pre-arranged” for a very specific end – “collusion with Russia”.
This is a form of straw-man DEFENSE. A straw-man attack on an argument attacks a false framing of the opponent’s argument, as a form of defending one’s own side.
Here, one attacks a false framing of the opponents THEMSELVES, as a form of self-defense.
Now – I’m going to make a MATHEMATICAL ARGUMENT about false-framing as defense – and it’s not just about the prime number “19”.
THAT little reference is a joke, that you will get if you actually read the Federalist article and saw how “19” was used as a sort of judicial eye-candy to get the bogus FISA against Carter Page. If you consider that the Russians might have even been helping Uranium Girl – well – perhaps THAT number was also a donation to the plot, just like 146. But the Russians are very good. They don’t get caught often.
The argument which follows is almost trivial and intuitively obvious, but it is key, and many people don’t see it at first. However, once you see it, you will feel as if you were exposed to a kind of sick hollowness and cynicism – particularly in certain corollaries which bring it closer to practical reality – the FRAMING of Donald Trump.
The CLOSER the straw-man can be arranged, FACTUALLY, to the REALITY being covered up, the EASIER the defense, because the STORY is closer to the REALITY, and pieces of the REALITY can be used as “proof” of the STORY – particularly if the STORY is advanced FIRST and the disentangled REALITY is posited LATER in defense.
See how that works? “Climate change”, and particularly “global warming”, work on the exact same principle – in the case of appearance of carbon dioxide and warming, by reversal of cause and effect. The cunning nature of this level of lying almost seems beyond human capability.
Are you with me? Doesn’t this just SOUND very much like what is going on with SpyGate? Makes sense, right?
NOW – those corollaries.
Counterintelligence is the perfect place for this sort of intrigue, since counterintelligence amounts to infiltration of infiltration, staying infinitely close to the original infiltration. Basically, getting CLOSE to the REALITY with a DECEPTION is part of the game, so counterintelligence is a natural place to SEED this kind of defense.
The ploy of reversed accusation becomes even easier and possibly even necessary if the enemy actually IS colluding with the accusing compromised or corrupted counterintelligence. This allows the enemy to “assist” the lies of the other side’s compromised counterintelligence, keeping them in place. This means that the counterintelligence people, if corrupted by the enemy, can then be “helped” by the enemy – in schemes exactly like what we are observing. Like I said, “19” may have been a gift from Russia with love, or at least alliance.
One of the first places that should be subverted by the enemy, both directly and indirectly, is counterintelligence.
Are you with me? Have I increased your thinking about how CYNICAL SpyGate really was? Maybe just a bit? That it’s not just false accusations of collusion, but false accusations of collusion in defense of REAL collusion the other way? And that the REAL collusion is the REAL story?
Are you seeing how DEMOCRATS and GLOBALIST REPUBLICANS colluding with RUSSIA – even at a distance – or acting as their dupes and controlled opposition, now actually NEED to make parallel accusations against non-colluding Republicans?
Grab the rails of your roller-coaster. The turns are about to get mind-bending. If you start getting dizzy, regain control by thinking about “Hillary’s reset” and “Uranium One”. Ask that both of these things make sense in a simple way.
Collusion.
The Hillary email cover-up by the SAME participants as in the FRAMING of Trump, is the BEGINNING of the revelation of the other half of the story – the COVER-UP. The TIGHTNESS of the same cast of characters in the Mueller cover-up fake investigation and the HRC email exoneration / cover-up is a kind of give-away of the theory I posited earlier.
Go back and review what I said, if it doesn’t make sense. It should. You can also see why the interception of the plot – by releasing text messages of Page and Strzok to force them out of the Mueller probe – was clearly the result of extremely skilled “IG-type work” in counter-intelligence. It’s not about the messages. It’s about the plot.
See what I’m saying? When the STORY is close to the REALITY, the STORY CAST is the REAL CAST.
Those 17 16 15 13 whatever Angry Democrats – I would say they’re in trouble. BIG trouble.
BROKEN SYMMETRY breaks the plot. This should tell you that taking out Mueller for his obvious part in the Hillary email meetings is a winner, too.
That other half – the COVER-UP – is also about WHAT is being covered up by the multi-useful framing of Trump and others. A frame job of innocent people by the former criminals in charge of this country. A frame job to stop – at any cost – the discovery, understanding, and disclosure of what they did.
In my opinion, there is a HUGE list of undiscovered scandals that flew right by us for nearly 60 years.
I have insight into more than one scandal – unknown to most people – which help fill out that other half. Admittedly, these scandals are not necessarily as big as 9/11, Benghazi, Uranium One, and other scandals we are beginning to understand, but they give me some actual insight into the BREADTH, the DEPTH, and most of all the REALITY of what is being covered up.
Since I have no idea whether those scandals are going to be part of the 60% that Q says will be kept under wraps, I can’t really speak of them in detail. However, I can share insights into the general nature of the crimes that are being covered up, and the cover-ups themselves.
These scandals were working against some kind of time-frame for the advancement of socialism, first in AMERICA – leading to the election of Barack Obama under Soviet assistance – and then in CHINA – by fulfillment of Clintonian aid to their aggressive development as a counter to America.
I have no real proof of the following, but I tend to believe that international communism viewed some form of symbolic “capture” of America in 2017 – the 100-year anniversary of the 1917 Russian Revolution – as a kind of goal. Either Hillary or Obama was supposed to be inaugurated in 2017, as fulfillment of a 100 year plan.
I think that may be why they fought Trump SO HARD. The 16-year plan was simply the culmination of a much longer and larger plan, and THAT plan pressured our communists to PUSH just a wee bit too hard.
Like Q says, symbols were their downfall.
Another point.
There is a strange and powerful link of this Federalist article to the Romney “New Years Attack” on President Trump, and it’s not just the coincidence of the TIMING of the Romney/WaPo/CIA attack vis-à-vis the appearance of this article in the Federalist.
This Federalist article focuses, among other things, on the bipartisan coordination of the anti-Trump forces, with the “press” as a full participant – against Trump. In a sense, almost everybody except the American people was against Trump.
That pervasive coordination not so much of PLANS or KNOWLEDGE, but of INTEREST, explains much. A conspiracy of interest requires little illicit communication. It is easily done in – say – the pages of the Washington Post. No pun intended.
Thus, the current “fronting” of Mitt Romney – a CIA-desired, globalist-desired, and dare I say communist-desired leader of the controlled opposition GOP, is exactly what we are seeing, and should expect. So to see Mitt Romney fully, you need to see him in the context of THIS LARGER PLOT.
Romney in 2012 was the equivalent of McCain in 2008 – an ALLOWED alternative to the media-imposed, communist-preferred candidate, Barack Obama. Romney is now seen as the most likely successor to the long sequence of “allowed” GOP presidential candidates in 2020, in my opinion.
John Kasich and Jeff Flake are not really viable in 2020, in my opinion. They can only be used to elevate a viable globalist candidate, either to the GOP nomination, or to an electoral homicide-bomber role in a third party. Thus, the creation of Super-Flake, with his “unknowing-but-flippable” niece, Ronna McDaniel, as the key “face-down” card in the scam.
McDaniel’s current (and I believe authentic) objection to Mitt’s behavior, coming only slowly after a withering cross-fire of MAGA criticism, tells me that she is a “non-knowing reaction player” – a CRUCIAL part of communist theater. Her role is to authentically embrace MAGA and Trump, even defend Trump at this stage, but upon the proper crux of the plot, to reject Trump, or otherwise act against him. The REALITY of that reaction will be key.
And last but not least, there is something else in the Federalist article that I, personally find HUGELY interesting. Go back to my statement about knowledge of hidden scandals to see where this makes sense.
From the Federalist:
This was actually a fair warning to me. I totally get things now.
My comment on Twitter:
It's all coming together, folks. Useful normies in the right places (COUGH, COUGH) are a THING for FAKE FISA investigations that are actually COVER-UPS.
Notice that these people quoted may or may not get the cover-up aspects. They talk about spying on Trump as a motivation, but don’t mention the cover-up angles. That MAY or MAY NOT be intentional. Remember what Q said – 60% will remain hidden. I have not doubts about that. Hidden among all the horribly abused sources and methods, are likely to be many that were NOT abused, or that are worth saving.
I was wondering why I’ve recently observed “snake-sign” all around me.
I rest my case. I would say there may be some track-covering in Snake-town. Trust me – I’ve got stories there. And now I know what kind of stories THEY surely have. Ones that would make Goebbels proud.
What did Q call it? Ah, yes. The Great Awakening.
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Did I say there was more? Oh, yes, there is MOAR. Stay tuned.
