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6)IG finds 17 separate problems with FISA court submissions, including FBI's overstatement of Steele's credentials. Also the failure to provide court with exculpatory evidence and issues with Steele's sources and additional info it got about Steele's credibility.
Now there is documented evidence that the FBI withheld exculpatory evidence multiple times to the FISA Court, do you still agree that those individuals should face sanctions? https://t.co/lBE9daABHF
Still troubling that massive anti-Trump probe was started on the very flimsiest of evidence. But by January 2017 *at very latest* FBI knew anti-Trump probe should have been ended. So why did it keep going? And what's more, why did leaders launch Special Counsel months later? https://t.co/NWuuDyH1Zh
Mollie has an amazing bunch of deeply perceptive tweets that Sidney Powell is retweeting. These two gals are just skunking the coup with each one of them.
Massive counterintel investigation against political campaign of opposing party was started solely on tip from foreign gov't, nothing else, IG says. W/in days, 4 campaign officials targeted, picked because they'd been to Russia or talked to Russians. Wow does this look flimsy.
And it just goes on forever. There are THOUSANDS of patriots going over the IG report, finding everything wrong with it.
THAT is the power of WE THE PEOPLE and FREE SPEECH.
One of the things you will notice in the following discussion is that the Soviet Fake News – acting just like Russia’s fake news acted in the 1970s – simply turns everything on its head. Even Horowitz is helping a bit, which is sad, but expected from an Obama appointee. Horowitz held his “Trump-limiting” fire for as long as he could, but at the last possible moment in his ability to protect the plot, he did what he could in the way of DAMAGE CONTROL.
Horowitz didn’t lie. What he did was give what I believe is UNREASONABLE benefit of the doubt to Comey and McCabe in assessing their MOTIVE. Why do I say “unreasonable”? Because it’s quite clear that the BIAS against Trump was POLITICAL IN NATURE, and that bias was ACTED UPON.
BIAS is not a crime. ACTING UPON IT AGAINST THE LAW IS.
Communists have TRAINED YOU otherwise, using the FAKE NEWS MEDIA.
The political bias against Trump may not have been PARTY politics, and it might not have been standard Conservative-versus-Liberal politics, but it was POLITICS nonetheless. It was all about the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
If you are an investigator, and you can’t see the bias in FISAgate, you’re either a PISS-POOR investigator, or you are COVERING UP for the bias of the Deep State.
It’s like saying that Ted Bundy wasn’t motivated by sexual sadism because of some technicality of when *exactly* he murdered his victims, or because he didn’t use standard whips of particular dimensions and wear appropriate lady-porn Fifty Shades of Gray sexy suits during the acts.
It’s CRAP.
WHO are you kidding, Horowitz? If this wasn’t about politics, then WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE?
I’ll tell you. It was GLOBALIST versus NATIONALIST politics. The “special hatred” for Donald Trump is that he is completely antithetical to the subtextual political worldview of globalism.
Horowitz is UNREASONABLE in not seeing it and calling it out, even though – very ironically – it MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CRIMES.
The latter is an important point. The law is the law. Bias means nothing, if we TRULY do not act on it, by OBEYING THE LAW – which is not supposed to be a mind-reader on ACTS. At the end of Obama’s tenure, I thought he was a horrid communist spy and insert, but he was also POTUS. His LIFE and his OFFICE deserved our protection with every last fiber of our being as patriotic Americans. PERIOD.
But THAT doesn’t matter. Love him or hate him, HOW WE ACT is all that matters to the LAW.
Because we are NOT in CHINA.
https://youtu.be/vspukvqxTSg
We ACT either properly or improperly IN SPITE OF ANY BIAS. This was taught when I was a CHILD. Sadly, the DEMOCRAT SCHOOLS no longer teach this.
TRUMP did not get the RESPECT that he deserved from the system. PERIOD.
I’m not the only person who sees how ridiculous this is.
But there are actually FACTUAL REASONS – not subject to debate – that tell us HOROWITZ was OFF THE MARK on this report.
If John Durham has met with Patrick Byrne, and listened to his timeline… well, the July 31st, 2016, Horowitz predicate date is way off the mark. Byrne said he was tasked by the FBI to run "political espionage" starting in 2015. pic.twitter.com/UXumhWSc2P
ANYWAY – my take on the IG Report, told in TWEETS, follows.
First of all, you really need to see how HARD the FAKE NEWS MEDIA is pulling to COVER UP.
Remember – this is COMMUNIST DEMORALIZATION.
BREAKING: FBI Dir. Chris Wray "The inspector general did not find political bias or improper motivations impacting the opening" of Russia probe, "or the decision to use certain investigative tools."@PierreTABC: "Included FISA?"
REMEMBER – Wray is just CITING FACTS here – facts about the report – but the FAKE NEWS is CHOOSING to highlight ONLY those facts.
This is EXACTLY like the SOVIET UNION, for those of us who don’t remember it.
DON’T LOOK AWAY.
I strongly suggest that you CUT YOUR CABLE if you have not done so already. You can see plenty of “don’t look away” material on the internet without PAYING to produce it.
Look at the BOLSHEVIK FILTH one last time before you CUT THE CABLE.
Check out THIS “Blue Checkist”…. a NEW YORK TIMES Shiece of Pit.
These anti-American pieces of garbage are not our friends. They hate our country – they hate us – and they HATE THE TRUTH.
One more.
The DOJ IG's report rebuts allegations of illegal spying and that political bias played a role in the probe begun ahead of the 2016 election, but finds serious faults in other areas, according to a copy of the document obtained by WaPo. https://t.co/p274MTloRe
Overall, this was pretty shocking evidence of LIES and DECEIT by the FBI and DOJ, with evidence of CIA treachery leaking in, yet compared to what the “Pizzagate” crowd wanted to happen – well, not so much of a big bust. Was John “Skippy” Podesta even NAMED in this thing? The treacherous James 8. Corney certainly was.
Gonna be blunt here, amigos. The fact that the IG report doesn't have photos of Cankles and Beelzebubba dancing around bound children in red shoes, with Bubba eating pizza and hot dogs off of her medical devices, does not concern me.
Yeah, Cankles ain’t in jail YET, but what we are seeing now is a lot of SPACE between (A) what we KNOW and which is now PROVEN BY LAW, and (B) what James Comey and his GRIFTER CLUB have been selling us via the FAKE NEWS MEDIA.
Comey was reading the same Obama tea-leaves as McCabe who knew Obama wanted "everything". The Beria-Stalin psychology of race and media-driven guilt was used with dramatic effect not only on us hix out in the stix, but even as a silent enforcer among the elite grifter class.
See how different THAT is from what the “Please Let Our Friends Off” FAKE NEWS MEDIA tried to tell us? Trump is right. The FAKE NEWS is not our friend.
So let’s take a look at what DID come out, and what is STILL coming out.
The TREACHERY of the Comey FBI – PROVEN right here.
What IG report page 341 tells you: the FBI used a defensive briefing with the Trump campaign as a tool for an investigation into its members. Unbelievable.
How bad was it? Even HOROWITZ admitted it was bad – before that final RUG SWEEP.
Adam Schiff 2/24/2018: "the FBI acted appropriately"
IG report today: "We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by" the FBI. "We believe this circumstance reflects a failure…by the managers and supervisors…including FBI senior officials"
Brad Parscale put things into perspective very nicely. The criminal Soviet Democrats JUST DON’T CARE. Because they’re CRIMINALS.
If the Democrat controlled House does not immediately investigate the FBI abuse found in the IG report it is clear evidence the Deep State has complete control of the Democrat party.
This has been an attempt to silence Trump and his supporters since the beginning!
Don’t worry – a CRIMINAL SOVIET DEMOCRAT HOUSE will never investigate CRIMINAL SOVIET DEMOCRATS. I mean – are you kidding?
This is why NIXON was offed so easily. He simply could not comprehend that the Soviets and Chinese had GOTTEN HIM. On American soil. Using TREASONOUS criminal Soviet Democrats.
There is NO WAY that an investigation going the other way – against the CIA that SET UP NIXON – would ever have been allowed. There is no way that EVIDENCE would ever be admitted.
They were FAKE NEWS then. They are FAKE NEWS now. And the CRIMINAL DEMOCRATS were with them every inch of the way.
Cut the cable. Take away their MONEY. That money you pay them every month – TAKE IT AWAY.
But even more importantly, THIS. Take away YOUR BRAIN CYCLES. Take away THEIR subliminal PROPAGANDA. Fake news works CONSTANTLY on your BRAIN to create a FALSE STATE OF REALITY which I call FAKE NORMAL.
CUT IT OUT. Put on the INTERNAL GLASSES that BLOCK FAKE NEWS to non-threatening levels.
It is going to be a FIGHT and we have to be like Trump and KEEP FIGHTING.
Buckle up, lads and lassies. THIS is the REALITY right here.
Guys–Comey, Brennan etc. HAVE to say "See, toldja, nothing to see" about the IG report.
You really expected these shits to say "I confess!"
THAT's what I mean when I keep saying some here are expecting one report to Change Everything.
I mean, seriously. These DIRTBAGS are gonna be not just proclaiming their innocence, but actually shilling for their own “MUMIA FAN CLUBS” while in PRISON. Get used to it.
Manage your expectations, and you will see that President Trump is RIGHT ON TARGET.
— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) December 9, 2019
So is it gonna be FIXED SOON? Sure looks that way.
It is worth noting while the #IGReport concludes that political bias did not influence the launch of the Trump-Russia investigation, US Atty John Durham, whose criminal investigation into the matter is more comprehensive, vehemently disagrees.https://t.co/bRIsHmGuq4
AND notice that all the #Resist SCUM is already MOUTHING OFF about Barr doing the right things.
Check out this WaPo Blue Checkist Bolshevik scum-bucket….
I agree with this guy: “I’ve never seen such an internal DOJ effort to challenge and undermine the IG's findings,” Harry Litman, a former U.S. attorney, told me Monday. “It is not what the Department of Justice does.” https://t.co/GvlGHqXEPR
Director Wray must make a public statement in support of the Bureau against Barr’s clear provocations and lies about the IG’s report and the way he attempts to impugn the professional and appropriate role the @FBI played in the investigation of the Trump campaign.
Yeah, take a hike, COMMIE. This guy is a real piece of TDS work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jiMxRKq5No
But look what’s coming….
BREAKING: Sen. Grassley of Judiciary said tonight that former FBI Director Comey is going to be in for "a rude awakening when (federal prosecutor) Durham gets done" with his own, more comprehensive — not to mention criminal –investigation of #Spygate
And things already falling apart for “Curtains” Comey and his well-constructed lies.
After college, for starters, the 6-foot-7 Comey for years claimed that he played NCAA college basketball. He did not. He is a congenital liar. And he was the head of our federal secret police. Unnerving to say the least. https://t.co/YiNEyBmmIi
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Now – let me put in a nice word for two people who are ACTUALLY doing something about “gun violence”, which I prefer to call “cultural Marxist violence”, or “religious suppression violence”, but let’s not quibble. For the purposes of common terms, I’ll temporarily assent to using THEIR TERM, “gun violence”, but I’ll put JEFFERSON QUOTES around it.
(You have to go back and watch the Barr video HERE to get that joke.)
First, let’s look at Attorney General William Barr. Many of us who DEFEND ON GUNS have been screaming for years that NICS needed to be fixed – that OBAMA and HOLDER had intentionally let it go to hell so that they could get propaganda killings that they needed.
Even when we got the chance to FIX IT when Democrats were out of the White House, far too many of us just breathed a sigh of relief and didn’t push to “git ‘er done”.
Well, Bill Barr has been BUSY FIXING THIS STUFF. Take a read HERE:
Thanks need to also go to both CHRIS WRAY (yeah, that guy with the goofy picture over at CTH) and some helpless VSG baby named PRESIDENT TRUMP.
Sorry, I’m just being snarky.
THANK YOU, ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR, DIRECTOR WRAY, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP.
There. There’s no missing THAT one.
So who’s next on the “thank you” list? I’d say it’s the guy who was the ACTUAL target of THIS operation:
Yup. Governor MIKE DEWINE of OHIO. Under intense pressure, he has stood up for DUE PROCESS to the point that state gun rights advocates have ENDORSED his approach to “doing something” about gun violence while NOT “doing something” about that pesky Constitution which seems to bother our STALINIST PROGS so much.
“Nothing we are doing places new restrictions on a law-abiding citizen from owning a gun,” said Lt. Governor Husted. “These proposals are focused on keeping guns out of the hands of people who are prevented from owning a gun by enhancing law enforcement’s ability to enforce current law.”
It’s true that this bill contains what some are calling a “red flag” component, but there was so much trepidation about infringing due process, that the final result is almost better described as an expediting of existing court order processes, to meet the “red flag schedule”. I personally don’t find the “red flag” component a showstopper, but as always, I remain suspicious, and await more comments from all sides.
HERE is a section describing the due process guarantees met by the law:
I love that part about “right to subpoena witnesses”. People have no idea how much power that puts back into the hands of law-abiding gun owners and truth-tellers. NO idea. It’s literally nuclear. That MUST stay in the law, at FULL STRENGTH, or it’s no good.
YOU DECIDE – I’ll include the complete information here.
First – the article:
Yeah, look at that PROG MAYOR saying it’s a “step in the right direction”. PPPFFFFTTTTT!
For those who don’t want to download a PDF, I’ll just include the page images here. Click on them individually to enlarge and read.
SO – my thinking is as follows.
OK, Deep State. You made your move. We even went along with it all.
You even threw your little “impeachment party”, and we went along with that sham, too.
FILE – In this Oct. 11, 2019, file photo, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, arrives on Capitol Hill in Washington. The House impeachment panels are starting to release transcripts from their investigation. And in one of them, Yovanovitch says that Ukrainian officials warned her in advance that Rudy Giuliani and his allies were planning to “do things, including to me.” (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)
Now it’s our turn. WE know how to do non-violence. Will YOU go to jail peacefully?
I’m surprised it took me THIS LONG to see how Comey’s multi-layered scam worked, but hey – James Comey is one slick bastard, as you can tell from his long and complex play against President Trump.
Why, Comey’s REALLY BIG PLOT is still unfolding right now. His CRAP is of an almost unearthly complexity. In some ways, it has to be, because the RESOURCES available to pull off his stuff are now geographically diminishing. Not all of the FBI is dirty. But there are still enough dirty resources, nationwide, to pull off false flags, and to achieve necessary timing.
That’s kind of impressive.
This isn’t new. We have literally gone through YEARS of the Comey plot. And I honestly think that the most MURDEROUS MOMENTS are yet to come.
In FACT, maybe arresting that guy wouldn’t have been such a bad idea. Just sayin’. Cuz there gonna be more bodies, if you catch my drift. He ain’t one to give up so easy.
I thought it was hilarious that this Devin Nunes interview appeared in my feed at the moment of writing, because this is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.
“The IG report, even though it didn’t lead to a prosecution, it’s a tremendous amount of evidence that would build into the case that we’ve been making that there was in fact a conspiracy here, and that is what the Justice Department should be looking at — conspiracy to break many laws.”
Devin Nunes
A conspiracy? You don’t say!
And Nunes is just talking about the OTHER end of the conspiracy – the EARLY part. The FAKE FISA and BOGUS IMPEACHMENT plots. The part BEFORE they put the pedal to the metal on guns and mass murders, because they realized that basic impeachment on Russian collusion was DEAD.
Sorry, Comey. We’re keeping both our POTUS *AND* our Bill of Rights. ALL OF IT.
The part of Comey’s FBI conspiracy that’s going on now – the “hit Trump on guns to attack his base” conspiracy – THAT is actually part of the larger Comey FBI conspiracy, but we have to look more closely to see how it’s all supposed to work.
So let’s look more closely, shall we?
The Comey FBI *NEEDS* Red Flag
It’s the little details that pay off and blow their scam. Just like their “take of the winnings” on Walmart convinced me that the FBI itself REALLY IS the one pulling off the events here, trying to change America, and humanity, so I just realized that Oregon anti-ANTIFA Red Flag Poster Boy (hereafter just RFPB or Red Flag Poster Boy) is also a device used in the “take” of the pot – their COLLECTION – their GOAL.
They NEED Red Flag – that microscopic but ever-present BREAK in due process through which arbitrary arrest and legal-illegal manipulation of the individual is possible. And they will do anything – ANYTHING – to get it.
Everybody KNOWS it, but very few can PROVE IT.
Let’s just say I can open the MALL DOOR to the proof, and BETTER MEN (and maybe some WOMEN) can send in a team to collect the evidence.
Oh, look. Somebody is ALREADY AT THE MALL.
POLITICS. The FBI is not just politicized. The functional FBI are now ALL-OUT POLITICS to stop Trump – but ingeniously hidden underneath the best excuses our tax dollars can buy.
MEANS, MOTIVE, and OPPORTUNITY – my three muses – just NAILED the Comey FBI. Yeah, it’s circumstantial, but it JUST. KEEPS. ON. HAPPENING.
Grow up. They’re DIRTY.
Sorry – the FBI is politicized beyond redemption, and needs a cleaning that maybe only Hercules or THOR can deliver.
SO – let’s get down to explaining what is going on.
Introducing Red Flag Poster Boy
You don’t WANT to look at him too closely. He’s too much like us. THAT is psychology. Really, really GOOD psychology. But you NEED to look at him closely to SEE THE SCAM.
AW – suddenly VYSOTSKY’S EVIL CREATION – Portland ANTIFA – is the VICTIM!
How did THAT happen? LOL. Yeah, right.
Horrifying to think that fake criminologist Stanislav Vysotsky – AUTHOR of Rose City Antifa, might actually be in CAHOOTS with the REAL FBI.
First of all, we’ve gotta get honest on this Posobiec distortion to see what’s really happening. This is actually kinda interesting.
Now, I love Jack “Disinformation” Posobiec because – well – there are few MAGA pot-stirrers as proficient as he is. Posobiec will tell you the right thing for the wrong reason, or the wrong thing for the right reason, and it is impossible to say which. And it all looks accidental, but you KNOW it’s intentional, and you NEVER know exactly why.
The KING of conservative clickbait who can never get called on it. He’s SLICK.
Here, just look at THE DIFFERENCE between what Posobiec says and what the article says.
What Jack Posobiec says:
The FBI, using Oregon’s new red flag law, took a Marine’s guns away after saying he would kill Antifa if they tried to kill him
Posobiec clickbait Twitter summary
Oh really? Let’s see what the article says:
“If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said. “I’d slaughter them and I have a detailed plan on how I would wipe out antifa.”
reporter Shane Dixon Kavanaugh in The Oregonian
Well THAT’S not only DIFFERENT – it was stupid as hell. It’s RED FLAG BAIT.
Those are NOT exactly the same thing. What Jack says, sounds like self-defense. What RFPB actually said, amounts to THREATS OF LETHAL RETALIATION AGAINST NON-PERPS.
It’s a RED FLAG NO-BRAINER.
But now I’m gonna shake things up a bit. Grab the rails, people.
Posobiec is either MISSING the real scandal, or HIDING the real scandal.
Posobiec is saying that red flag did something it didn’t. THAT is a FAKE RED FLAG SCANDAL. And it’s not only wrong – it’s SMALL POTATOES.
But what is he deflecting us from? Turns out, it would be a WAY BIGGER SCANDAL.
The scandal of “Red Flag Poster Boy is part of a larger FBI plot – PREMEDITATED – with over 30 dead – designed to push for Red Flag Laws specifically, and particularly in Ohio.“
You see what I’m sayin’? We’re talking a REAL scandal that could put Comey on Old Sparky, by my reckoning.
Let me explain this more slowly.
This Kohfield guy was ASKING for red flag. JUST asking for it.
No – worse. He’s like the perfect poster boy for Red Flag.
With his MAGA hat, and his BODY ARMOR, and all his great lines? COME ON, PEOPLE!
So why don’t the thousands of stupider losers in ANTIFA make mistakes like that?
“Oh, yeah – I remember! It’s because RFPB is a PTSD human shield!”
PFFFFT! Sell me a fucking BRIDGE. Sorry. NOT BUYING IT.
Don’t be a CHUMP. This is NARRATIVE. Don’t be a SUCKER. They use this crap against us like trained animals. We are BARKING SEALS to this shit.
And just like we were trained, the REALLY big secret is that they TRAINED dear little RFPB. Which I will explain below.
But wait – it gets worse.
ADD IN the fact that this guy did the following two things:
(1) Mailed “alarming stuff” to reliable ideologically and media-controlled opposition right-wing human shield Dan “More Cruz Than Cruz, More Kinzinger Than Kinzinger” Crenshaw. You know – the guy with the eye-patch that makes patriot lady VOTERS swoon.
I mean, come on. Think about it. If you’re trying to DOG-TRAIN conservatives to SIT on command on RED FLAG, what’s the proper VIRTUE SIGNAL?
TWO VETERANS! OH MY GOD! TWO VETS! We have to DO SOMETHING!!! OK – you’ve convinced me!
PFFFFT! Brainwash McCAIN laughs in MOTEL SATAN.
You seein’ this shit? At all? Have I slapped you with any WAKE THE FUCK UP yet?
Oh, heck, let’s keep GOING!
(2) Showed up in front of Mayor Ted Wheeler’s house (YES, THAT TED WHEELER) and – wearing BODY ARMOR and using a BULLHORN – delivered CLASSIC, face-palm, eye-rolling, “red flag” rhetoric to the media.
AND I QUOTE:
Shane Kohfield stood outside the home of Portland’s mayor in July wearing body armor and a “Make America Great Again” baseball cap, a large knife strapped to one shoulder and a copy of his concealed weapons permit displayed on the other.
Using a loudspeaker, he warned the right-wing activists who turned out to condemn the city’s handling of recent violent demonstrations that they needed to protect themselves against their anti-fascist, or antifa, rivals.
“If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said. “I’d slaughter them and I have a detailed plan on how I would wipe out antifa.”
reporter Shane Dixon Kavanaugh in The Oregonian
Seriously, only the FBI could make this shit up. I’m sorry. It’s fucking ridiculous.
It is really worth looking at the original article AFTER I’ve slapped you with some WTFU.
Red Flag Poster Boy did EXACTLY what was needed to justify red flag laws! WOW!
WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
But just to be certain you see this, we’re gonna do it in THREE PARTS:
The “events”
The “push-back”
The “justification”
The Events
Right after things cool down a bit from THIS:
And – WHOOPS – this? (Speaking of which, has FBI-DNC-SNOPES fixed this shit yet?)
AND then THIS….
Which – oh-so-coincidentally brings this crap back into Ohio, hitting a swing state, pushes back on Trump’s MASSIVE rally, covers up a likely DARPA loss loose end, and gives FBI a tool to cover up Deep State’s DEATH-RATTLE SCANDALS, both in Ohio and (COUGH) elsewhere (and when people find out about the human-STEM-limiting stuff, they are going to FREAK, trust me, but CA3 was WAY bigger than I thought)……
As you can see, Red Flags were ON THE ROPES. But then LO AND BEHOLD
The Justification
Let’s look at the timelines, which always get them
RFPB delivers his premeditated red flag act at Ted Wheeler’s house on 7/20
Trump holds his first big swing state OHIO rally in Cincinnati on 8/1
El Paso patsy shooting at psy-op target Walmart on 8/3
Dayton MK shooting in Oregon district on night of 8/4
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine (TARGET) comes out with red flag proposal 8/5
El Paso and Dayton stories falling apart – first Q Tree article w/ patsy proof 8/6
Ted Wheeler puts out YouTube video about 1A rally violence fears on 8/7
RFPB served with ERPO to take his guns and begin 5 day eval on also on 8/7
Massive problems with red flag laws already a consensus among gun owners 8/9
Q Tree article “Top 10 Reasons Red Flag Laws Are Bad For America” on 8/10
RFPB volunteers to remain hospitalized for two more weeks on 8/12 (calculated)
PDJT absolutely DESTROYS red flag using Chris Cuomo “Fredo” tirade on 8/13
Q Tree article “Speech-Protecting the Red Flags” demands 1A guarantees on 8/14
RFPB is PREVENTED from attending Portland free speech rally on 8/17
RFPB is released from hospital on 8/27 or 8/28 (calculated)
Oregonian article on RFPB appears on 8/30
Now – when I say RFPB’s commie drama on Ted Wheeler’s lawn was “premeditated”, I’m not talking about Red Flag Poster Boy doing any of the real premeditation. He’s a tool. He’s an easily manipulated patsy, just like the El Paso shooter, whose name is largely kept out of the media (compare to other shooters) because he himself is now an extreme LIABILITY to the FBI.
I will explain later how the manipulation of these patsies works. Down underneath “sources and methods”, the excuse which is used to PROTECT THE SCAM.
SIDEBAR: Good GOD, I wish somebody could NUKE this shit abuse of classification – maybe Obama – oh yeah, he did – hmmmm – interesting – and yet – nothing……?
No – when I talk premeditation, I’m talking about the people who are DESPERATE to get a red flag law passed in Ohio for some reason. They even loaded up TWO mass killings to “move the center of horror” and make sure that DeWine simply HAD to roll out a red flag proposal.
I wonder why. I mean, these people would have had to have done some pretty shocking stuff – right? To kill dozens of people to get OUT OF IT? Gotta be pretty massive – don’t you think?
OK, we’re ready for school. I’m going to take you INSIDE a place that very few people know about, but I spent years there, biding my time, knowing it was a SCAM.
Patsy School
Let’s begin by looking at my replies further down the thread under Posobiec’s tweet.
You will notice that these tweets got NO engagement – or at least they don’t show any. However, there is a BUG in Twitter’s code, on their deceptive fake numbers of likes and replies, which gives away the fact that they had to clamp down here, and a wee bit of information on HOW. Too bad I was a software developer when I found my hidey-hole in FAKE SCIENCE. I learned what honest I.T. looks like, because I did it, so I can always spot the other kind.
Most people have not actually HAD different kinds of spies and informants around them, but – very weirdly – there are places where you find a LOT of such people. Certain parts of FAKE SCIENCE are indeed such places.
Spying is really a lot like the old “Turing test”, only differently directed in what is being ASKED and TOLD. The thing is, just like “FISA works both ways”, the Turing test works both ways. Normally, in the Turing test, the PERSON tries to figure out if the thing on the other side of the divider is HUMAN or MACHINE. In spying, the SPY tries to figure out if the person on the other side of the divider knows something, what that something is, and whether it’s true or not.
The trouble is, the PERSON and the SPY always give up a lot of information, looking for whatever it is they are looking for, or sparking whatever FIRE they’re trying to set. So if the thing on the other side of the divider is ME – it’s going to ask stupid questions like:
“What is this person or spy trying to do here?”
“What information are they trying to get?”
“What ideas are they trying to plant in my head?”
“What is the PURPOSE of what they are doing?”
Now – I’ve dealt with a variety of informants and spies over my lifetime – many of which were really good. Some of them know I know they are what they are, or at least suspect it. That’s part of the game, too. I hate to say this, but in real life, it was easier for me to have informants and spies, than it was to have real friends. And the fact is, in this world, regular people turn into informants and spies pretty fast when they’re told various lies. It’s just the way things are. SO – to be quite honest – I don’t mind having informants and spies instead of what might be called “friends for no reason”.
Spies and informants are generally very interesting people. Read some books about real spies and you’ll see. They lead weirdly normal but weirdly interesting lives. They’re like professional gossips, snoops, actors and bullshitters for a cause. Everybody should know at least one or two such people, in my opinion. If you know five people who seem kinda like they might be spies, then you almost certainly know at least two. One MAY be a person you suspect. The other will definitely be somebody completely unexpected.
So anyway, one of my informants/spies was really quite good. BUT – because they were asked to get or plant SO MUCH information for SO LONG – well – they gave up a lot of information.
Whoever was coming up with the biggest laundry list of things being looked for was sure worried about Trump, so we’re definitely talking Deep State, for starters. But that was at the tail end of things. See what I’m saying there? You’re probably getting ideas on WHO was asking the questions already. BUT – that will be your call. I have no idea, ultimately. False attribution is very important to these people. So it’s all PROBABILITIES. Nothing is CERTAIN. You have to ASSUME YOU ARE POSSIBLY BEING FOOLED.
One of the things I found most intriguing was that they seemed interested in not just me, but OTHER PEOPLE. Among those other people, there seemed to be one particular group that I also fell into. And if I could characterize that group as anything, it would be potentially believable as mass shooters. Not necessarily potential mass shooters, which is a different thing, but people who others would say “yup – I can see it“, after the fact.
This was obviously a very disturbing realization.
Not only that, but they seemed to:
want me on the list
want me to do, say, or think things that would in actuality “deepen me” on the list
want information that would justify me being on the list
Now – they were ABSOLUTELY DESPERATE for me to say “the N word” to this guy on the phone. They would engage in a lot of very fake talk to try to draw me into using it, which really blew their credibility, but – like I said – they were DESPERATE.
The fact is, when I was a kid, I almost never used the term, but I did once, repeating what somebody had said about my clothes, and a black friend of my mom overheard it. Trust me – I was “learned” not to use the term by what followed. Although when a black guy stole my wedding ring, I did call him that – among many much worse things.
Anyway, they just tried to get me to SAY CERTAIN THINGS, and it was really pretty pathetic. They were definitely looking for any angle to discredit me. They would just work to wear me down on the phone – trying to call late to make sure I was tired – the calls coming like clockwork – multiples of half an hour – you know what I’m saying. It wasn’t about getting the truth. It was about getting what they needed or wanted. But I played along. It was kinda fun. I mean, under Obama, where was I to turn? Who could I go to? Just RIDE THIS SHIT OUT.
They wanted me to be crazy, racist, or violent – OR – and this was weird – to redeem myself in some way by being/becoming/admitting/re-envisioning myself as gay, trans or progressive.
In short, they wanted me to be politically USEFUL from a leftist standpoint – either one way or the other.
There were many attempts to influence as well. Some traps. And a couple of MK trigger tests (that will take forever to explain – not now). But – to be honest – THIS ONE was not nearly as dangerous as some of the other people I dealt with over my life. However, the “shooter background preparation” stuff – that was a bit freaky, and stayed with me.
And THIS. We need to talk about the “others on the list”.
One of the other people who was “on the shooter list” – that mark was definitely NOT WISE to the informant. The mark got very weirded out and flamed out in a dramatic way. What was very interesting THERE was that the person was vociferously pro-2A but ON THE LEFT. At one time, they had a lot of positive reputation, and a lot of influence, but they began a long downward slide. So the complete and utter 2A discreditation of this person – exactly what happened – seemed very “their agenda” if you ask me. There was some China involvement on that one, too, but it’s messy. VERY messy. China sneaking in is not a simple thing. It’s complicated. Good China – even anti-China – will drag in bad China. For some things, the only Safe China is No China. So there was China on it.
And another person on the list also went nutso and even became a THREAT to the informant. I think that person subconsciously knew they were being messed with through information from the informant, but was swinging at air trying to fight off the craziness that was dogging them. It’s a very sad thing to watch people being driven crazy, who both don’t know where it’s coming from, and don’t know how to fight back.
It would be very plausible to just pass these two people off as normal crazies who were being WATCHED by an informant FOR the FBI, but in my opinion they were being MESSED WITH. I was WISE to being messed with – and that’s why I skated through their attempted manipulations.
SO – with all that in mind as my background, let’s talk about Red Flag Poster Boy.
Patsy Factory
Allow me to be extremely blunt.
Based on my ride in the “Deep State Patsy Wagon”, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that THIS DUDE had way more DS heat and manipulation on him than I ever had. Worse still, he clearly has no clue. I could put this guy up to ANYTHING, and I’m a pretty worthless manipulator. He’s a lovable FRUITCAKE. Hit him with the right stuff, and he’s PUTTY.
Perfect for a little AND logic of USE THE CRAZY GUY AS COVER.
Despite what XOR SHILLS are already saying on the Posobiec timeline (yeah, it’s worth a look, if you’re actually at the FBI and know how XOR works. And please don’t send any more of your n00bs to be members here. They might be the WRONG KIND OF YOU.)
This boy RFPB may never have ridden in the back seat of civilian cars at the tail end of the Roswell air show parade, but he was valuable as hell RIGHT NOW, and performed like a champ in giving the globo-futuro-progresso-left exactly what it wanted – individual gun confiscation AND MOAR without actual due process.
If you read the article, you will see that this Kohfield guy has the PERFECT psychology for what they wanted. He was without a doubt understood inside-out by Deep State – and he was understood LONG before they fed him to “Fake Psychiatry” for his “evaluation”.
There are days I don’t know whether to laugh or cry about something, and this is one of them.
Time to be VERY honest.
The very IDEA that this dude – fully monitored through informants and understood by what we might regard as 28th century mental science – then USED like nobody’s business based on that science – and finally – when they’ve gotten the political manipulations of humanity that they needed – was FED back to dopey 21st century psychiatry for his witch-doctor evaluation….
OMG – it’s JUST. SO. CYNICAL.
The people who gave him those 20 days of evaluation have NO IDEA about the criminalization of psychiatry and psychology – much less psychiatry and psychology that would seem like it’s from the FUTURE. But based on what was done in CA3, THAT is what we’re dealing with. Humans understood at THAT level. REPRODUCIBLE. PREDICTABLE. LAB MICE.
The thing that I learned in FAKE SCIENCE is that our local masters developed a kind of patronizing attitude toward us. They didn’t care what we were doing. Why not? Because we were a FRONT. We were CIGAR STORE INDIANS. That is all.
REAL SCIENCE – the crap they USED ON US – and everybody else – is way ahead of whatever we knew.
THAT is why the CLIMATE SCAM WORKS. Fake Science, pretending it’s still in charge of itself, is TOYED WITH and LIED TO with impunity. Because 21st century PHYSICAL science is utterly unaware of 28th-century-equivalent SOCIAL SCIENCE which can completely fool it, today’s scientists are putty in the hands of people who make Uri Geller look sloppy.
Imagine going back in time and FOOLING old scientists because that was your mission. At all possible levels, from global, national, organization, down to individual. Yeah, now you’re seeing it. Now you see how effective that would be. All you have to do is know the reality, and know that your mission is to keep the targets away from it. If you KNOW the points to steer away from, your ad hoc strategy will work like crazy.
At the point of Star Trek: The Series That Nobody Ever Watched, where the “Prime Directive” (LOL) has been so thoroughly sliced, diced, ground to a pulp, and then atomized for interesting plotlines (hey – you’re watching a movie), to the point that it pretty much isn’t THERE – well – then you will see exactly what I’m talking about, and how EASY it is – if you just “defictionalize it” to make the roles quieter, sneakier, and MORE REAL and NOW and HERE.
Oh, let me tell you – defictionalization is a hell of a skill, and you’re gonna love it. It is a FAST way of turning THEIR disinformation into a fucking battle plan.
Bag of hammers into a bag of tomahawks.
Imagine how easy it would be to keep old-time scientists off-track – make them miscommunicate – marginalize the wise guys and gals, and promote the frauds and the inept.
Hell – that might even work at the FBI.
What surprises me is how FAST they did it. REALLY fast. The last few decades have given them some real capabilities.
SO – have I woken you up just a bit on HOW they view the PATSIES? Like MICE?
Read the article and listen to how Kohfield – whoops, I mean RFPB – actually VALIDATES all the red flag talking points. His levels of cooperating, SELF-DISCREDITING PER THE DESIRED NARRATIVE, self-critique, and affirmation of the value of his red-flag confessions – what one might call brainwash-washing – all of this may be fine and good, and I would even join his psychiatrists in celebrating it as a good thing – but those psychiatrists are NEVER going to see the bigger picture of how both they and Kohfield were USED as socio-political pawns, kinda like – well – cigar store Indians.
The 21st century psychiatrists are being asked to observe and bless RFPB in the same way that an old Indian chief might be asked to publicly bless the cigar store’s finest Virginia tobacco. THAT part is the gimmick – the real part was MODERN AGRICULTURE and a TRAIN RIDE. So in this case, “certain elements” in the FBI worked the patsy into a highly specified lather using bleeding edge psych tools, pointed him in the right direction, and maybe even helped write his little self-discrediting script.
Actually, I know how that part works. *WINK*
The point is, I know that all this mental manipulation stuff really does take place in the “monitoring” of patsies. Next, I can read quite a bit in the article that tells me this Kohfield dude is a face-palm creation by the FBI. And lastly, here is the kicker, FROM THE ARTICLE:
The FBI declined to provide additional details about the case or answer questions submitted by The Oregonian/OregonLive.
“The Portland JTTF’s role is to assess, address, and mitigate any given threat against the people of Oregon appropriately,” Beth Anne Steele, a spokeswoman for the bureau’s Portland office said in an email Friday.
“Sometimes that mitigation takes the form of criminal prosecution, and sometimes it involves a holistic response, including consultation with threat assessment teams or others to divert a person before a significant violent crime occurs.”
reporter Shane Dixon Kavanaugh in The Oregonian
Oh, clamming up about Red Flag Poster Boy is SMART. Even if Beth Anne Steele is goody two-shoes Dana Scully on this one, she has to know that Kohfield is a HOT POTATO on some stuff everybody at FBI will just want to go away – even their BEST.
Psychology. ASK ME why I know the psychology of SCANDAL and CONSPIRACY so well. The UNCONSCIOUS and SUBCONSCIOUS manipulators and signals of EVERYBODY – particularly the INNOCENT and CLUELESS – are what the plots COUNT ON.
There is a huge chess game and almost nobody on this planet plays. Well – I know ONE GUY.
I am not taking ANY issue with what Ms. Steele says. I think everything she is saying is true. She is likely not read in on JACK, although you never know. YOU NEVER KNOW.
But I would ask everybody – EVERYBODY – including her – to consider ONE question.
“If, as Wolf Moon alleges, reality is the best cover, then WHAT might be covered up by the realities of the Kohfield case?”
I, personally, think it’s a very interesting question. Maybe somebody should have a look.
The Gateway Pundit has done a great service and reminded me of some news that I completely missed. I was STUNNED to read this – but it turns out that it was OVER A YEAR AGO that Sundance posted this.
It’s very simple. The FBI JUST PLAIN LIED about examining the Weiner laptop – and WAITED until after the election. And NOW it’s even worse – they “lost” other devices.
And the fact that this is getting RENEWED media buzz RIGHT NOW is very dangerous, because there is a HIGH correlation between mass GUN murders and media attention to FBI malfeasance.
Beyond that, I urge you to REMEMBER. REMEMBER the FALSE ASSURANCES.
Which we now know were LIES.
Does the DESPERATION to BRING DOWN TRUMP now make SENSE?
NOW – this is critical. “THEM” elements in FBI – if they act as they have in the past – will deploy mass murders in the next 48 hours to kill this story.
BE READY.
But be of good cheer, patriots. We are AHEAD OF THEIR GAME.
TL;DR – Walmart political outcome of El Paso FBI multi-shooter patsy hoax means WALMART was a target of the FBI plot, which means the politicized FBI actually IS the “event people”.
BREAKING: Walmart will discontinue all sales of short-barrel rifle ammunition that can be used with military style weapons, discontinue sales of handgun ammunition and stop all handgun sales in Alaska, following two shootings at Walmart stores this summer. https://t.co/xtIAvxxWlupic.twitter.com/d23XxnYDcP
The SIGNIFICANCE of this is much bigger than it appears on the surface. I will explain.
It’s not about me. I’m not sure I ever bought ANY gun-related stuff in Walmart.
It’s not about 2A principles. Walmart is free to do what they wish on guns. THEIR STORES.
It’s not about one store – even a chain – conforming to the Democrat-Commie-Foreign agenda. That is actually SMALL POTATOES.
It’s about CONFIRMATION of WHO the “event people” actually are, and how much control of the FBI they actually have.
First of all, we have to recognize that the official story of El Paso is a LIE. Utter bullshit.
Not only do we have uncontrolled witnesses who give a much different story of multiple shooters, far more in accord with a BODY COUNT beyond the ability of the patsy.
We have photographic evidence that the FBI is simply lying to us. We have THE LED PATSY in action.
At first I thought that this might simply be the “FBI business model problem” which others have pointed out. Their age-old “create some sitting ducks for colorful busts” strategy.
Skip over this important article from Mike Adams, if you’ve already read it. Otherwise, this is an important step in grasping the problem of “maintaining relevance by set-ups” which has plagued the FBI. This was the PRESUMED reason for FBI shenanigans, although Mike Adams is zeroing in on the ideas that things have now gotten SO BAD, the FBI’s motives are also both self-protective and political, in addition to simply proving relevance.
Nevertheless, the most important point is this:
SET-UPS and FRAME JOBS are in the PRACTICED skill set of the FBI.
The problem? This explanation no longer works for me.
The situation is WORSE.
Because Walmart knuckled under to the anti-gun agenda, that retailer was clearly NOT an accidental, coincidental, or unintended TARGET. The political outcome of this attack was obviously CALCULATED to change Walmart. This makes it impossible for the El Paso attack to be anything other than a COMPLEX OUTCOME EVENT – the things I have detected and warned about, as coming from shadowy “historical blood-hoaxing change agents” who – on their own front lines – I refer to as “the event people”. These are the people who set me up multiple times, and I almost always breeze by their traps, knock on wood and praise GOD.
The reason? They have to act without being busted or observed. Thus, their traps usually lie exceedingly close to the edge of plausibility. They have sneaky justifications for what they do, to keep things barely within the law. For example, putting up a “no guns sign” on the door AFTER I walked into the store. What kind of creepy people do THAT?
HA. The COMEY FBI.
Sorry – they are orchestrating, grooming, and assisting MURDERS of humans to achieve some inhuman agenda. This must be PUNISHED by DISCLOSURE, which they HATE and FEAR.
So let’s spell it out.
First of all, it means that THE FBI is not just infiltrated by the “event people”. I think it’s pretty clear that an authorized force within the FBI actually IS this group – acting with impunity using NSLs on behalf of a FOREIGN AGENDA. They are acting on authority which is beyond the sovereignty of the United States.
They are not answerable to the President. They can and will act against him – politically. Maybe kinetically, although it looks like they’re trying to AVOID what would happen after that. They KNOW we would not believe them.
Well, thanks to their MURDER of innocent Americans for this putrid agenda, by this corrupted agency, I’m gonna make their day worse.
Let us be perfectly clear. What happened during Crossfire Hurricane and the Mueller Special Conspiracy has NOT STOPPED – indeed, it has actually SPILLED BLOOD to make sure President Trump is not re-elected.
Spilled blood? Do I mean like Vegas? YES, that is exactly what I mean. And THAT is why the reports of McCabe spending so much time back at FBI make SENSE now. They’re trying to create legally defensible ALIBIS for all their CRAP. Much of their legal justifications for KILLING US will be bullshit legalisms hidden in FOREIGN-SPACE.
They’re trying to groom some FAKE REALITY that pins minimal blame on McCabe, and keeps all this FOREIGN ALLEGIANCE running like clockwork, as if Trump never happened.
And BY THE WAY, it’s no wonder FBI didn’t find THEIR OWN SECOND GUN in Vegas.
HA! OCCAM’S RAZOR AT OUR THROATS.
Here is the way I see things now. CANKLES, the KGB-allied CIA, and the Comey-Cankles FBI are now loyal not to the United States, but to some global treaty or bullshit council, very likely the CFR.
“Foreign” is used in the same way it got used internally in the US. COVER. Cover for an INHUMAN AGENDA which advanced through dupes like CANKLES.
Wray’s father was CFR. Wray is likely bought into their agenda, if not fully part of it. Or maybe his hands are simply tied. Either way, he’s letting them do it.
All I can say now is this.
I look FORWARD to the day that they CANNOT WALK THE STREETS. Because at that point, if their masters want to kill us, they have to do it with THEIR OWN EVIL HANDS, instead of acting through the FBI like COWARDS.
Let me put the KILL SHOT on these “red flag laws” right up front.
Hard to read that graphic. Let’s make things just a bit more clear.
Now you MAY be saying “BUT WOLF – THAT’S NOT THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THAT’S THE *FIRST* AMENDMENT!“
To which I say “EXACTLY.“
Here is the explanation. It is, for lack of a better metaphor, how the Second Amendment and the First Amendment PEACEFULLY protect each other – by saying WWG1WGA.
Any “red flag law” that doesn’t EXPLICITLY PROTECT – better still EXCLUDE – all Constitutionally protected speech, beliefs, associations, and assembly, is not worth the paper that it’s written on.
The reason is that, absent explicit protections and exclusions, such laws may be interpreted in practice to deny citizens of their First Amendment freedoms – particularly SPEECH – by construing protected activities to be in conflict with other rights – specifically our SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
(This stuff used to be common knowledge before American crypto-Sovietism, by the way.)
This has often been referred to as a “chilling effect” – a sneaky form of infringement which is typically brought forth under the guise of laws utterly unrelated to speech, religion, or other First Amendment-protected activities. Enemies of First Amendment exercise will “hold other rights hostage” in a way that “chills” our claim to those First Amendment rights, lest we see the OTHER rights denied or potentially infringed. In almost ALL these cases, the parties backing such laws desire to infringe on BOTH freedoms, but will take either one, by constructing a FAILED law which puts them into apparent conflict.
The Constitution says NO – there IS no valid conflict, and if you are attempting to create one, even accidentally, then you are creating UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
Wolf Moon, Annoying Patriot, and Son of the American Revolution
SO BTFO, COMMUNISTS!
Republican lawmakers who think it necessary to have such “red flag” laws should TAKE NOTE before signing them. An ABSENCE of explicit Constitutional protections of SPEECH is, in my humble opinion, sufficient reason to veto ANY such legislation.
Our GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump, has personally given a demonstration of how this works, in a joking (well…. who knows…..) tweet. AND I QUOTE:
Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!
There you have it – the REALITY of “red flag” laws for millions of wonderful, trustworthy, but perhaps “not careful with their tongues” Americans. INCLUDING CHRIS CUOMO! Who I don’t particularly like, but whose rights to angrily argue and own a gun I will defend to the DEATH!
The responses were uniformly BRUTAL for red flag laws.
SO – let’s look at this more closely.
Is Jack Posobiec right? Are “red flag” laws unconstitutional?
In my opinion, red flag laws CAN be constitutional. But I am not even sure if ANY of the existing ones are. And THAT is scary.
Ohio is proposing a red flag law which is designed to avoid many of the pitfalls of existing red flag laws. But even the proposed Ohio law really “needs some work”, in my opinion.
First of all, red flag laws need to respect both the SECOND and FOURTH Amendments.
Here is Dick Heller, of the famous Heller case, talking to OAN about this:
The SECOND Amendment is rather obvious. The FOURTH Amendment is more concerned with warrants, seizure of property, and probable cause – all of which are made more sketchy in red flag laws, when a JUDGE has not actually reviewed the evidence with opposing counsel present. THINK FISA COURT. Gun SEIZURE without the ability to challenge it IMMEDIATELY or better still BEFOREHAND is an idea that does not sit well with this here critter.
Now WOLF MOON – who thinks SCOTUS got the “gay marriage” thing all wrong by not using the FIRST AMENDMENT to protect both gay marriage AND polygamy, is often in the habit of picking DIFFERENT Amendments to defend freedoms. This time is NO DIFFERENT.
Yes, I agree with the Second and the Fourth, but I believe that the SIXTH and the FIRST are also very important here. We’ve talked about the FIRST – what about the SIXTH?
Some people might be A-OK with the idea of just giving up their guns, not being arrested, and arguing about it all later, but NOT THIS HERE WOLF.
“I WANT AN ARRESS!”
In fact. to be completely clear, I want an arrest, and a hearing with MY LAWYER and a JUDGE, and I want it BEFORE my guns are taken. This gives me my MAXIMUM rights under BOTH the Fourth and the Sixth Amendments.
Trust me – THIS OPTION is the most Constitutional of all. I will have WAIVED NO RIGHTS in picking this option.
SO – let me summarize. In my opinion, a potentially Constitutional red flag law must:
not take away my stringently guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights without due cause
respect the due processes of the 4th Amendment in a HUGE and optimal way
explicitly guarantee my FULL 1st Amendment rights, NEVER using protected speech, beliefs, or activities in any fashion to take away my 2nd Amendment rights
better still, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE all 1st Amendment protected things, including speech, writings, religion, beliefs, assembly, associations, and memberships
allow arrest without seizure and a prompt hearing with legal representation, for MAXIMUM 4th and 6th Amendment rights
include strong deterrents for abuse in BOTH criminal AND civil law
Are you starting to see how much difference current red flag laws have from this ideal, with the ideal probably passing review by SCOTUS, and current laws actually being somewhat doubtful?
I’m kinda thinking Jack Posobiec is right.
NOW – let’s look at an example. This will demonstrate both the Constitutional requirements AND how SAFE a properly constructed “red flag” law could actually be – if enforced HONESTLY by HONEST law enforcement, including an HONEST FBI (cough, cough, COUGH, COUGH).
I have a person who believes in a CRAZY RELIGION. The crazy religion says that in order to go to heaven, one has to defend the religion violently against all non-believers, cutting off their heads. This person goes online and AGREES WITH ALL THIS, repeats it, and argues vociferously and ANGRILY for it, because he is a MUSLIM.
But in real life, he’s a nice guy, and has never even struck anybody.
Sorry – according to WOLF’S version of a CONSTITUTIONAL red flag law, this guy cannot even be “red-flagged”, and if anybody tries it, Peaceful Angry Muslim has grounds to SUE.
Like it or not, what YOU consider “crazy beliefs” are PROTECTED by the First Amendment.
Even VIOLENT BELIEFS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN HATE SPEECH and ANGRY SPEECH are protected by the First Amendment.
Even HATE GROUP ASSOCIATIONS and MEMBERSHIPS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN CRAZY SPEECH AND BELIEFS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Violent actions are NOT protected.
So Violent-Talking Angry Muslim who never hurts anybody gets his gun.
Are we done yet? Can we still SAFELY have “red flag” laws with all these Constitutional protections and restraints?
Sadly, the answer is NO.
No, because the HOLDER/MUELLER/LYNCH/COMEY FBI – still politicized as hell, is DESPERATELY pushing for those unconstitutional, Nazi-style laws of the LEFT…..
Check out this FBI political move against 1A/2A in Ohio. Bust a kid in mom's basement for ranting about Waco (as in, protected speech), and then count MOM and DAD'S GUNS and AMMO in the "horrifying" numbers.
Here is the article. I URGE YOU TO READ IT – especially between the lines. You will see how this is 99% propaganda of the moment. Digging up old posts to push for NAZI gun laws.
They took this kid’s PARENTS’ GUNS to spice up the numbers, took his posts to paint him as a danger, and DESPERATELY tried to create a SECOND PUNCH after DUBIOUS DAYTON.
Only – well – it’s kind of a FAIL.
This is exactly the political stuff that the now-ruined CLINTON-OBAMA FBI pulled on President Trump. So do you know what I think now?
I think there is excellent reason to believe that the HOLDER FBI has been pulling ALL of these sketchy gun-ban propaganda mass shootings. The only difference here is that they’re running low on “MK specials” who can be manipulated into pulling off their shit. So they’re resorting to backing up their DAYTON SATAN mass shooter with a KID who – wonder of wonders – lives in the same state.
SAD, SAD, SAD.
This is why red flag laws are communist bullshit. They are not only of sketchy probable FBI / Deep State origin and definite FBI propaganda backing – they are simply TOO ABUSABLE.
Sorry – even if I saw a red flag law that EXCEEDED my recommendations here, I tend to believe that it would STILL BE ABUSED by political elements in the FBI.
EL PASO AND DAYTON. All related materials. Gun Control. Red Flag. Whatever.
Please feel free to REPEAT and UPDATE information from earlier threads.
BRING YOUR BEST.
Anything that proves why the FBI needs to be SAND-BLASTED WITH THE ASTEROID BELT, and the SOCIALISTS need to be chased out of Ohio with HILLARY’S BROOM.
I want to consolidate all our links, visual evidence, analysis, and reasoning.
BURN THE DIRTY FEEBS and their SOCIALIST MASTERS TO THE GROUND.
More calmly, this. It is IMPERATIVE that these incidents be made so toxic that Dems get bad dreams if they just HEAR the words “Red Flag”.
Will Red Flag laws work on SOCIALIST SHOOTERS?
Will Red Flag laws work on OHIO SATANISTS?
Will Red Flag laws work if FBI is still ABUSING INFORMANTS FOR POLITICAL DRAMA?
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
First things first – I have a QUESTION.
I’ve never been clear on the whole “marker” thing with Q.
Consider the following context.
Dan Coats served ably & with deep integrity. Ratcliffe showed abject subservience to Trump in Mueller hearings. The women & men in the Intelligence Community deserve a leader like Coats who puts nation first; not a servile Trump loyalist like Ratcliffe. https://t.co/fbYgS3MoOM
I won’t get into “sleepers” until the discussion, although I think it’s very interesting to contrast Q’s repeated earlier “Trust Wray” drops with Q’s somewhat tangential reply to the accusation that Q is a “sleeper”, of “Future marker.”
Now I need to ask something here….
What the heck is a “marker”, and how do they work?
I know this is a big part of Q lore, but it has never been clear to me.
So I’m asking y’all please give me YOUR understandings of “marker”!
ANYWHO……..
I love that we’re getting some clarity now.
It’s going to be a big week. Followed by a BIG MONTH.
This TO RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTION TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember the 5 words that President Trump and Vice President Pence love to hear:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT? TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
There may be some question about what speech is allowed here.
My goal is to be as expansive as possible, as far as RULES. My preference is to be no more restrictive than the First Amendment.
So far, the only LEGAL speech I’ve acted against is metaphorical “targeted violence” against famous individuals that is probably NOT a real threat, but is easily misinterpreted as one by our enemies, and thereby used to shut us down, or to paint me as a legitimate target in an abused law enforcement set-up.
I don’t actually LIKE that stance. I would prefer to fight it out on those cases, should the speech ever be questioned, when I know the person is NOT actually a threat. However, I’ve been CONNED before, and SETTING PEOPLE UP to come to the aid of BAIT VICTIMS is a specialty of the left. Just look at SPYGATE to see how this works.
When you see the wounded hostage girl in the middle of the road, you don’t help her. You dump 50,000 rounds of ammo into every conceivable ambush point. Then you inspect the bodies, remove the booby-traps from the girl, and interrogate her to see if she’s a true hostage. Probably not.
Now you understand why I dealt severely with these cases. Do it that way once, and they don’t happen again.
So what about child pornography?
Easy. It’s illegal. Not allowed. Along with any other clearly illegal speech.
NOW, that said, NOT all illegal speech will actually be removed from this site. Child pornography would be removed, obviously, because just looking at it intentionally is a crime. However, an ILLEGAL THREAT will remain posted PUBLICLY as EVIDENCE which the PUBLIC has a right to see. I would likely preserve the EVIDENCE and BAN THE ACCOUNT so that the evidence could not be deleted.
Unlike all these places that seem to think it’s OK to hide social media accounts once they become important, I will not hide evidence that the PUBLIC has a right to see. All arguments AGAINST this involve forms of PRIOR RESTRAINT, and I simply don’t buy that shit. Journalists have a RIGHT to see it. That includes citizen journalists.
Now – in the interest of investigations – into scandals like NXIVM, “pizzagate”, and the Podesta brothers, we may actually end up DISCUSSING child pornography. I don’t have a problem with that. AT ALL. If we have to label the threads NSFW, not a problem.
What about “plain old pornography”? Well, if it’s relevant to MAGA or citizen journalism in some way, like in the news, then not a problem. We may have to label a thread NSFW. That’s reasonable, IMO. We can work that out.
Personally, I think that LINKS will get us by for such cases, and I will definitely NOT censor such links. Authors, however, are free to enforce stricter or looser LEGAL standards on their own threads. We’ve already had NXIVM tattoos and barely-covered Stormy breasts on here, and there WAS that HC porn tweet on the Ted Cruz account that made big news, and I would have allowed that tweet to be posted in a comment. People had to CLICK IT to SEE IT. That’s pretty much the same as a link, IMO.
What about plain old “people want to look at porn”? I’m not sure if that violates the terms of service for WordPress, but there is that to consider. As it is, I don’t think any of our authors are likely to start a porn thread, but if it happened, I would insist that it be clearly marked and NOT have a graphic featured image. I would actually prefer it be passworded, but not sure if I have that capability on this site. I’ve never really looked into that.
We will cross that HIGHLY UNLIKELY bridge if and when we come to it. Personally, I think porn threads would be highly unpopular here, if only because most of us know it’s a form of cultural Marxism.
What about graphic violence?
Honestly, this stuff is going to appear routinely in any Daily Thread in a world with Communists and Muslims, and there is little point in labeling these threads all NSFW, but I think that people CAN consider using links instead of images.
HOWEVER, I am NOT going to restrict such speech. In some cases, I may even encourage it, as TRAINING. I would prefer to simply let people FIGHT IT OUT over content, rather than impose rules. Indeed, I have not seen you good people fight enough with each other over content. I feel like a free speech drill sergeant with a bunch of raw recruits who refuse to ENGAGE in fighting drills. Y’all are gonna need some toughening up.
To me, beheading pictures and “little-girl-run-over-by-a-jihadist” pictures are exactly what is needed to make people WAKE THE FUCK UP about the reality of the Red-Green axis and why it needs to be shut down HARD, with various Clintons and Podestas in PRISON, and suffering as many riots, rockets, and false flags as it takes. I mean, seriously. Are you folks ready for a NUKE OR TWO to shut down the cabal? I’m not seeing it. If you aren’t willing to see NUKES GO OFF – probably false flags or psychological terrorist actions by THEM – nuclear 9/11 – in our fight to protect free speech, you’re not ready for this fight. You will WIMP OUT on 1A.
The WOLF will not wimp out on 1A, 2A, or any of the rest. If we push THEM into some kind of “sum of all fears” action, TOUGH. THEY pay for THEIR crimes.
NO. PRIOR. RESTRAINT.
In addition, analysis of FAKE graphic violence is KEY to stopping the censorship movement, as PALLYWOOD and KIWIWOOD have both demonstrated.
SO – expect bloody and lurid as we topple the FAKE WORLD that has been imposed on us. If you need to look away, look away. Nobody will blame you.
This THIN RED-WHITE-AND-BLUE SUPPLY LINE THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Every day – for our VSG – try to make this statement TRUE:
Unlike that puppet named Obama, who knowingly smirked with communist satisfaction when it happened, THIS PRESIDENT is going to make the OPM hack VERY, VERY, VERY expensive for China.
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in information and communications technology and services, which store and communicate vast amounts of sensitive information, facilitate the digital economy, and support critical infrastructure and vital emergency services, in order to commit malicious cyber-enabled actions, including economic and industrial espionage against the United States and its people. I further find that the unrestricted acquisition or use in the United States of information and communications technology or services designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of foreign adversaries augments the ability of foreign adversaries to create and exploit vulnerabilities in information and communications technology or services, with potentially catastrophic effects, and thereby constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. This threat exists both in the case of individual acquisitions or uses of such technology or services, and when acquisitions or uses of such technologies are considered as a class. Although maintaining an open investment climate in information and communications technology, and in the United States economy more generally, is important for the overall growth and prosperity of the United States, such openness must be balanced by the need to protect our country against critical national security threats. To deal with this threat, additional steps are required to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of information and communications technology and services provided and used in the United States. In light of these findings, I hereby declare a national emergency with respect to this threat.
Accordingly, it is hereby ordered as follows: (see link below)
In case the HOUSE OF COMMIES happens to be HARD OF HEARING, our VSG has written them a nice letter, fortuitously timed BEFORE indictments.
A great paragraph from this awesome letter (link below):
Foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in information and communications technology and services, which store and communicate vast amounts of sensitive information, facilitate the digital economy, and support critical infrastructure and vital emergency services, in order to commit malicious cyber-enabled actions, including economic and industrial espionage against the United States and its people. Although maintaining an open investment climate in information and communications technology, and in the United States economy more generally, is important for the overall growth and prosperity of the United States, such openness must be balanced by the need to protect our country against critical national security threats. To deal with this threat, additional steps are required to protect the security, integrity, and reliability of information and communications technology and services provided and used in the United States.
Message to the Congress on Securing the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain, in INFRASTRUCTURE & TECHNOLOGY, Issued on: May 15, 2019
Funny – guess who has been DOING THEIR JOB, after our VSG got the DEAD WOOD like “Big Sis” and “Red Diaper Jeh” out of DHS….
(@JackPosobiec) December 9, 2019
