“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
It should be an obvious point: Given the determined, coordinated censorship of conservative and libertarian speech by the evil tech giants, no future election that takes place under coordinated censorship is legitimate if it produces a Democrat victor. Democracy depends on the ability of citizens to engage in open, public debate about issues, candidates and policies, yet the tech giants in America today have systematically annihilated the voices of nearly all prominent conservatives in an effort to crush public discourse and steal all future elections for Democrats.
The actions of the tech giants have destroyed the very idea of fair and free elections. Without the freedom to speak, there can be no legitimate elections in America.
Thus, until free speech is restored in America by reversing the de-platforming and shadowbanning of conservative voices, #WeDoNotConsent to any Democrat winning any election, period. All such Democrats are illegitimate and should be removed from public office until fair and free elections can be held in an environment where Americans are free to speak (and publicly debate).
Until a national voter ID law is implemented every election will be stolen by illegal alien voters who are encouraged by Democrats to commit election fraud
Similarly, until a national voter ID law is implemented nationwide, no election can be considered legitimate because Democrats are allowing illegals to vote in local and national elections. This means that votes of American citizens are being outweighed by the votes of illegal aliens who broke to law to enter the country without legal permission.
California, New York and other states are deliberately recruiting illegals to vote, even handing them state driver’s licenses that grant them voting rights. This is blatant sedition on the part of local officials who are complicit in the attempted overthrow of the United States of America by an invasion of illegals who are also granted “sanctuary” status even when they are murderers and rapists. This is what the Left in America has become: Complicit in aiding and abetting illegal alien murderers so that they win elections by out-numbering the votes of real American citizens.
From this day forward, no Democrat elected to office in America is a legitimate representative of the American people. They may be removed from power by We the People to restore the rule of law. No elections must be held after speech is restored and a national voter ID law is implemented. Only then do we have “fair and free” elections in America.
Watch and share my video below, via Brighteon.com, which explains more. And tweet out #WeDoNotConsent at every opportunity.
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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Today’s Q posts are tying it all together. Just DROP THE MK BLINDERS and you will see what’s going on. It’s like the left can’t win for losing.
When they went after Garrison, my initial reaction was just ANGER, but that anger BROKE THROUGH the MIND CONTROL and when the anger went away, I could see clearly what is being HIDDEN BEHIND WHAT THEY USE TO PROTECT THEIR CRIMES.
So time to look at some pertinent Q posts. Including FRESH STUFF!
Now if you listen to Alan Dershowitz, NOT ONLY does he claim that Lynn de Rothschild set him up with introduced him to Jeffrey Epstein – he claims that the accusations against him are part of a plot to extort 1 BILLION dollars from Les Wexner.
And we all know that THE WEX is probably good for a cool billion, with room to spare.
And suddenly one sees that Jeffrey Epstein is a lot like Magnitsky – he’s a TARBABY. No matter who you are – no matter how you touch him – you are TAINTED.
See how that works? And the TAINT just SPREADS, and spreads the CONTROL.
It’s all about control.
Speaking of control, a few announcements.
(1) This is not a game. The HEAT on the WOLF is picking up. Why? You know why – things are getting REAL. Certain things are heating up that I can’t talk about. If you don’t see a thread up by 1 AM on a night that I’m supposed to get one up, and I did not say something about it on the end of the current open thread, somebody please put one up. I will be back, but it it likely that I am dealing with stuff.
(2) There has been some speculation by some people that the other side has found a vulnerability of this site – the kind and good ladies who bring daily coverage of the news to us in the open threads. Since the other side can’t well fuck with me, the next best thing is reducing the amount of news coverage here “by any means necessary”.
Now I don’t know if there is any truth to the idea, that anything but fate and circumstances have drawn away two of our “reporters”, Sylvia and Phoenix, and thus the “predicted vulnerability” sure looks like a real vulnerability, even if only driven by the luck of the draw. Nevertheless, I have taken note. We have a vulnerability.
No matter what happens, I think it is worth potentially RECRUITING additional “news posters” who share the same positive yet honest, determined, MAGA coverage of the news, that Sylvia, Phoenix, Pat, Wheatie, and others have brought to the table.
SO – just start thinking about that. There is natural turnover on every site, but THIS SITE is strongly dependent on REAL crowd-sourcing. Just keep that in mind.
We’re always looking for a few good women.
(3) RUMORS to the effect that anybody but WOLF MOON has your email address and IP address are INCORRECT. So relax. Your personal data is SAFE. However, be advised that the WHITE HATS ROAM FREELY HERE, and there is always the possibility that the black hats poke around, too. And the ChiComs are just fucking everywhere.
If I think of something else, I’ll add it. But until then, BE READY.
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FA and ANTIFA – CAN WE HAZ NEITHER?
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
REMEMBER: This is our SECRET WEAPON OUT IN THE OPEN!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q is firing up some amazing posts on the PSYCHOLOGY of what the DEMS are doing.
Fake News Media’s attempt to truncate size of movement while ‘building up’ size of the opposition.
Inauguration Day to current, attempts to diminish and instill a ‘you are the minority’ mindset (narrative) continues.
People want to believe they are part of the bigger group (size equates to accuracy in most minds)(acceptance)(the ‘right’ side).
One of the primary purposes of POTUS holding a RALLY is to demonstrate the massive appeal, energy, and size of this movement (+ability to correct false reporting and/or highlight achievements, goals, etc.).
(Compare & Contrast) 45-RALLY vs ANY SINGLE ONE of the [D’s].
What is obvious & true?
Why does POTUS mention crowd size at each and every RALLY?
What is projected by the MSM?
LIES becomes TRUTHS.
TRUTHS become LIES.
Smoke & Mirrors
You are the MAJORITY.
People UNITED & AWAKE is their BIGGEST FEAR.
Do you think it’s a coincidence we are being attacked aggressively by some of the biggest media corporations in the world right after our return?
If we are simply a ‘conspiracy’ or ‘LARP’ or ‘some kid living in a basement’ as stated repeatedly, why do the world’s largest media Co’s continue to dedicate so much attention and time to attacking us?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to stop a LARP?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to attempt to ‘shape the mindset (narrative)’ to prevent and slow digestion of the masses?
You attack those you fear the most.
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
You are witnessing the greatest ‘coordinated’ misinformation attack (campaign) ever to be launched against the public – all in an effort to protect themselves from prosecution (public exposure) and regain power (control).
[Attempted removal of the duly elected President of the United States by illegal [manufactured] means]
They believed they could win [con] public support by controlled assets (media, tech, H-wood…).
These controlled assets set out to immediately create division through the use of a pre_designed misinformation campaign.
Groups such as ‘Antifa’ were funded and formed to prevent and/or lessen the appeal for ‘regular’ hard working Americans to gather and express non_narrative viewpoints.
Control of this ‘projected narrative’ depends primarily on their ability to ‘con’ the masses into thinking they are the majority.
The mindset of most: If the majority of people believe ‘this’, than ‘this’ must be more true than ‘that’ [CIA_CLAS 1-99_56_Human_Psych_&_Emotional_Distress_IIED].
Without public support – they are powerless.
We, the People, hold the power.
UNITED WE ARE STRONG.
— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
You are witnessing the systematic destruction of the OLD GUARD.
Q
Q Post 3411
To me, these points are key:
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
Enemy of the PEOPLE.
Q Post 3409
This tells me that we are doing the RIGHT THINGS to BREAK THE PROGRAMMING.
WE Rush in to “shape events” for ourselves
WE create our own “keywords” to understand reality
WE repeat and USE OUR OWN LANGUAGE
WE insist on THINKING and AVOID inhibitors of it (PC, silencing, etc.)
WE do not give up our right to challenge authority
WE practice and refuse to abandon LOGICAL THINKING
WE trust ourselves and NEVER STOP trusting ourselves
WE refuse to listen to the DEMOCRAT FAKE NEWS
WE remember at all times that it is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE
Now I understand why cutting the cable was so effective in stopping the mind control.
This TOO MUCH WINNING TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You guys dropping real vids along with indictments helps a lot with overcoming that!
>>6958495
Sessions began the Epstein investigation. When that is revealed those who doubted may see the light.
The wheels of Justice turn slow but when they turn they are powerful.
10x speed now underway.
We are back online (Pelosi attempted block).
Q
Q Post 3370
SO – THE WOLF makes note of a few things:
All you “Sessionistas” have just been vindicated. ENJOY YOUR MOMENT. TAKE A BOW. You were driven from your old homeland, but you were PROPHETS.
Prepare for things to move fast. We are the news now. We may not have time to educate people – rather, we will simply “be correct”, and let the public switch allegiance to the “correct news” as opposed to the “incorrect news”. Our TRUTH will educate.
Nancy Pelosi tried to get Q quarantined offline. THAT does not surprise me. She is still every bit as nasty and dangerous as ever. And remember – she’s MAFIA.
Back to your usual channel.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
REMEMBER: This is our SECRET WEAPON OUT IN THE OPEN!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
PS – a special request to pray for Vice-President Pence – for his SAFETY and for his STRENGTH to stand by POTUS and Attorney General Barr! And a prayer or two for our Honey Badger can’t hurt, either! While you’re at it, a prayer for Q and the Q team, as well as Gen. Mike Flynn, might not be a bad idea!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
I was going to have some big long thread of Q posts, but NOPE – we’re keepin’ it simple.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS: I AM PRAYING FOR YOU
Subversion : attempt to transform the established social order and its structures
Subversion (Latin subvertere: overthrow) refers to a process by which the values and principles of a system in place are contradicted or reversed, an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, hierarchy, and norm (social).
Subversion can be described as an attack on the public morale and, “the will to resist intervention are the products of combined political and social or class loyalties which are usually attached to national symbols. Following penetration, and parallel with the forced disintegration of political and social institutions of the state, these loyalties may be detached and transferred to the political or ideological cause of the aggressor.”
Jesus’ Prayer & Judas’ Betrayal
“Then he went off by himself, about a stone’s throw away, and falling on his knees, prayed in these words—“Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me—but it is not my will, but yours, that must be done.”
And an angel from Heaven appeared, strengthening him. He was in agony and prayed even more intensely so that his sweat was like great drops of blood falling to the ground. Then he got to his feet from his prayer and walking back to his disciples, he found them sleeping through sheer grief. “Why are you sleeping?” he said to them. “You must get up and go on praying that you may not have to face temptation.” While he was still speaking a crowd of people arrived, led by the man called Judas, one of the twelve. He stepped up to Jesus to kiss him. “Judas, would you betray the son of Man with a kiss?” said Jesus to him.“
From the Garden of Eden to end of time as we know it, the constant of subversion will always be with us. In the book of Revelation there is a description of a war in Heaven where, in his rebellion, satan apparently brought one third of the angels over to his side.
Moses had his Korah. David had his Absalom. And Jesus had his Judas. We can train ourselves to see this pattern. Perhaps even catch it in action within the structures we find ourselves placed in during the seasons of our lives.
We’ve touched on the Lavender Mafia within the Catholic hierarchy. And the communist takeover of the Chinese church. There has been mention of the way the Russian Orthodox church works closely with the Soviet-communist flavor of totalitarianism. We’ve had some discussion about the marxist sympathizers recent moves within the leadership of the Southern Baptist Church.
And yet church structures are not the only organizations to be subverted by malicious infiltration. Government and non-government organizations have always been targets as well. Any influential voice can be expected to be a target.
As with any organized power-brokering enterprise, those best at subversion are going to be scanning the populace to identify anyone at any level that might have the power to influence others now, or in the future. Those will be targeted for recruitment or discrediting, depending on the response. The pawns of the mind control media are representative of those recruited for subversion. Both as subjects and perpetuators of it.
So, what is to be our response to seeing the subversion around us?
It’s a question that can be studied in the light of the character of God and examples found in the Scriptures. When Adam and Eve betrayed their Creator, the response was immediate loss of fellowship but with a clear path for restoration given. When the Israelites worshipped other gods in a drunken party while Moses was on Mt. Sinai (being given the 10 commandments!) a similar pattern of loss and reconciliation repeated.
Many Christians have suffered torture at the hands of communists because they would not betray others in the church. Others broke under torture and did betray.
The suffering church deeply understands the weakness of men and the reality of betrayal. Sometimes betrayal done willingly, sometimes betrayal in weakness, under threat of harm to loved ones or under actual torture.
Believers so betrayed have often found the grace to turn their hearts to God and learned to forgive and then live in the joy of the Lord, free from bitterness. This is beyond human ability and one of the more convincing proofs of the Divine.
Jesus gave us a parable to help us understand the divine timetable for dealing with evildoers.
Here is another illustration Jesus used: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer sowing good seed in his field;but one night as he slept, his enemy came and sowed thistles among the wheat.When the crop began to grow, the thistles grew too.
“The farmer’s men came and told him, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that choice seed is full of thistles!’
“‘An enemy has done it,’ he exclaimed.
“‘Shall we pull out the thistles?’ they asked.
‘No,’ he replied. ‘You’ll hurt the wheat if you do.Let both grow together until the harvest, and I will tell the reapers to sort out the thistles and burn them, and put the wheat in the barn.’”
Our eagerness to uproot the evil that we see is natural. And yet the example in scripture is for us to take our distress to the Lord and get His answers for how to proceed. To take matters in our own hands is to open ourselves up to the same spirit that created the evil in the first place.
The gift of sight must necessarily be paired with the gift of nearness to the heart of God lest we become the next tyrant that replaces the last tyrant. Think *3
“For God is my witness, how I long for all of you with the affection of Christ Jesus. And this is my prayer:
that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge
and every kind of perception, to discernwhat is of value, so that you may be pure
and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ
for the glory and praise of God.” Philippians 1:8-11
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Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Thunderstep Music, titled ‘Unbroken Spirit’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a massive Tree growing up out of a deep canyon; the base of which has an intricate internal structure of several floors of large rooms with arched openings and long windows. A soft light is shining out from them. There are two suspended pathways, leading to the base of the Tree on opposite sides of the canyon.
There are streams of water falling magically off of the huge leafed-out branches of the Tree…cascading down into the canyon below. It’s as though the Tree itself, is the source of the water. The sides of the canyon are covered in lush, verdant tree growth…but none are as massive as the Tree growing up from the canyon.
In the background, the canyon ends and gives rise to a large green clearing that is covered with a stepped series of waterfalls, cascading down into the canyon. This is all surrounded by huge snow-capped mountains, reaching upward to the sun and clouds. The position of the massive Tree eclipses the sun, causing to it to be backlit…but the Tree’s branches are so densely covered in leaves, there is very little light showing through. Second Image: Is a cozy interior view of a stairway against the wall leading down into a large area with overstuffed chairs, a couch and soft lighting. There is a bannister made of winding tree branches. Throw pillows and throw rugs add to the comfy atmosphere. Third Image: Is President Trump with a solemn, quizzical look on his face.
I mean – a somewhat SIMILAR thought occurred to me in the past, when we discovered through Project Veritas, that many DSA members working in our federal government were actually SABOTAGING things, and proudly admitting to it on secret camera.
It occurred to me at that time, that people belonging to parties which ADVOCATE secret sabotage of “the system”, such as the DSA, should simply not be allowed to work in government.
But NOW it occurs to me, that rather than approaching these crimes PREEMPTIVELY, which is constitutionally questionable, we COULD simply prosecute PROCESS SABOTAGE – you know – like CLOWARD-PIVEN operations – as a CRIME.
In fact, wouldn’t it be wonderful the TROLL THE MEDIA into having to COVER the idea of Cloward-Piven – something they MUST call a “conspiracy theory” – but which every American can understand – WILL UNDERSTAND – and will BELIEVE?
If you need a refresher on Cloward-Piven, OR you just want to see one of the most AMAZING predictions of our current state of affairs, then just watch THE FOLLOWING VIDEO about Cloward-Piven and OBAMA, from June of 2010, as that FIRST Tea Party election approached.
This video is, hands down, one of the most ACCURATE predictions EVER, of where we are RIGHT NOW. It is 10 minutes of your life that you will NOT REGRET having invested.
Now – I have covered Cloward-Piven before. In fact, let me provide you with a SHORT biography on the subject. Three in-depth articles I’ve done:
Right now I am researching one of the most horrifying unrevealed cases of Cloward-Piven TREASON which has yet to see the light of day. Once people see this, the jig is up for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Their utter betrayal of Americans will ASTOUND. And they are not alone. There are several other Democrat names …
I have wanted to get this article out, but I was stuck on “number 10”. Sure, I could come up with TEN. EASY. But I needed a good one for NUMBER 10. I mean, I needed a REALLY GOOD ONE. And our blessed President, Donald J. Trump, VSG, just gave it to me today. Stick …
TL;DR: If you want to end the crisis at not just OUR border, but ALL borders, don’t just fight the THEORY of Cloward and Piven – fight the PRACTICE of Chicago Marxists Coleman and Lozano. It is time to bring the TRUMP DOCTRINE of ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY to CHICAGO, and then to THE WORLD. Long Version: …
OH, I know all about Cloward-Piven. And every day I learn more about the two radicals, their CLINTON support group, and their extremely damaging ideas.
But it never occurred to me that ADMITTED SABOTAGE and ABUSE of government solutions MIGHT actually be a CRIME that we could prosecute.
So what do you think?
Assuming that you agree with the basic idea, HOW should we go about DIRECTLY CONFRONTING the insanity of Cloward-Piven?
W
What would YOUR Trump tweet about Cloward-Piven say?
This FRIDAY THE FIFTH OF JULY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
REMEMBER: This is our SECRET WEAPON OUT IN THE OPEN!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Did you enjoy a fun, exciting, and patriotic Fourth of July?
I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.
According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.
After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.
And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.
So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.
What happened can be summarized in a brief list:
Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.
Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.
We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!
Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.
This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.
Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.
This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.
They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.
What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.
They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.
Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.
We are dealing with professionals.
It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.
I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.
Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.
SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?
I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin
How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.
Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.
Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.
Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀
I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.
Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).
The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.
NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:
NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.
Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.
So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”
It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.
To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:
ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL
Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.
Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!
Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!
Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!
SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.
And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.
But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.
The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.
So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.
To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.
Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.
After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.
The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.
NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.
(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).
(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.
The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.
Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.
But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.
SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.
Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.
Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.
WE WERE WINNING.
The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.
One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.
I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?
Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.
Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.
They weren’t funny.
Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.
It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.
Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.
It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.
Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.
Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:
believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
unprovable, or even provably WRONG
“too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
seemingly designed to FOOL people
and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY
All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.
Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?
Yeah, like one even has to ask.
Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.
I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.
SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.
SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?
OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.
There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.
You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.
You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.
What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:
the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it
The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.
DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.
What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.
This is the point that pops out the most to me:
SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.
This is the beginning of understanding.
What else do we know? Keep going from there….
the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
they are definitely connected to aviation
they are probably connected to the government and/or military
they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative
Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.
I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.
Here we go. Enjoy the show.
Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.
One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.
Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.
In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.
The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?
create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.
To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.
But wait – there’s MOAR….
Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.
This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.
What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.
Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.
Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:
add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS
What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.
This is the power of disinformation.
So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.
And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.
Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.
How can I put this simply?
OK – let’s try this…
“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”
What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.
What could this be?
There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.
Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.
(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)
Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.
OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.
Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.
Now – let’s back up to REALITY.
All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.
What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.
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