“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Eric Weinstein is an interesting Twitter follow. He has opinions which I would say land square in the middle of the “new skeptical intelligentsia”, part of which would include the “intellectual dark web”, part of which would be outside it, but are disturbed in different meaningful ways that such a thing has to exist (and therefore some people on the left consider them PART of the “intellectual dark web”). Eric is pretty much on the internal border between the two parts of the larger movement, and “gets” everybody.
Stated another way, he’s “Quillette perfect”.
Anyway, he’s worth following even if you just want to see what smart people are saying about stuff.
Well, a Twitter friend replied to him on something, and that led THE WOLF to pontificate just a bit. The tweets were ultimately in response to a QUESTION by Weinstein.
How – 2A defenders – do we stop the NEXT school shooting?
Let’s talk about the next major US school shooting with more than 3 dead. Those folks are currently alive. They are just having a day today like anyone else. They don’t need our thoughts & prayers yet. We could take action to save those lives. We know it is going to happen.
Oh, did I *EVER* want to talk about how I, personally, may have stopped a “non-school” shooting by NOT SHOWING UP in the same room as a politician, thereby nixing an opportunity for the MURDEROUS WHOEVER to pull their little game of “wrap up multiple loose ends”. But then THIS gets into the REALITY of “fighting the future” in a statistical, quantum-ish, highly uncertain, multiverse way – something most people aren’t even ready to consider, much less believe, much less understand.
This gets into all we have observed about active shooter training exercises and drills “mysteriously” preceding active shooters who are used for political payload. This gets into my long-and-painfully-developed “economy of events principle”, which shows how these events nearly always have to have MULTIPLE POLITICAL PAYOUTS for them to occur.
This gets into acceptance that there are technologies IN USE that most of us are not aware of, few of us understand, and nearly none of us is even CLEARED to know about.
This gets into believing that there are motivations IN PLAY which are far, far different from anything which is being revealed publicly to the hapless population of victims and aggrieved family members.
This gets into believing that there is ANOTHER “intellectual dark web” – possibly not all on this planet or even in this universe – that has its own ideas about where humanity needs to go.
Yeah. Some conjecture may be necessary. And you had probably better believe that EPSTEIN didn’t kill himself.
So scratch THAT SHIT. Unless somebody really wants to understand how tenuous ACTIVELY STOPPING ACTIVE SHOOTINGS actually is, when SOMEBODY OUT THERE WANTS THEM, and all we have to go on is the experience of SURVIVORS and WITNESSES – those who have been set up before by sketchy, abused LE and IC, and managed to walk out of their “history grooming process”. Or those who have dedicated their lives to investigating and stopping this stuff.
In that case, then they can look at how it was done in one particular instance.
This is a bit of a strange post, and I won’t go into all of the details here and now. Maybe never. However, I am deciding how I’m going to deal with exactly what is in the title, and I want the have maximum information at hand when I do. You folks are a wealth …
So skipping the X-Files stuff, or maybe not, let me show you my responses on the thread.
Here’s my plan: That we begin talking ahead of time and not retroactively. Move to the next one. Like it is “Groundhog day”. Let’s set a schedule of anticipation and see if it changes anything. Why are we exhibiting learned helplessness? Makes no sense.
Gun control is feared by many of my fellow Americans. Ok. So…I want the strong 2A crowd to take the lead. What real plan do we have that we can fund and implement to get these deaths toward numbers that aren’t an embarrassment?
Yes. Add this to the LIST. All ppl skin in game on social stability. The solutions [which must retain FREEDOM and POPULAR RESERVE OF POWER (2A)] have to be multiple and have components in many directions because of post-Marxist societal deformations in so many dimensions.
When I was a kid (60's), even though bullied as a nerd, the idea of shooting up a school was unthinkable. The FAKE NEWS has worked very hard to make it thinkable so that it can be an issue to kill 2A. WEIRDLY, now that I've disconnected from fake news, SOLUTION is thinkable.
Thus, I believe that KILLING THE MEDIA as it presently exists – as it was TURNED for stealthy political power – is a necessity to end gun violence. Somewhere in communist doctrine, in an offline vault in Beijing, is an idea that our media + violence was needed to get US guns.
I believe that @realDonaldTrump is entirely correct that guns are not the ultimate problem. I might back-fill reasoning later. For now, this: I believe a unifying idea we can all gravitate to is "Big Switzerland". Distributed power (2A, anti-Mao), freedom, peace, TRAINING.
The latter is a secret that most opponents of private gun ownership don't often see in person – that the deeper one gets into gun culture, the more it becomes like a religion of safety. Indeed, many gun critics fall off the wagon when they see this. Authentic "safety" is good.
Sadly, "safety" has been used propagandistically, and division grows, but REAL safety from familiarity and training spreads more than just safety – is spreads the "old 2A social culture". I believe this true gun culture washes out "media training" connecting guns to violence.
I grew up in an anti-gun fam. Mom traumatized by WWII horrors – hated even toy guns. But a WWII vet (Patton), NRA life member, changed us all, patiently. Mom eventually saw the light on 2A, and joined NRA. She never owned a gun, but felt it was a duty for younger people.
I'll end on that idea. When people feel that owning a gun is more of a duty and a responsibility than simple empowerment, then safety, wisdom, and peace ensue, and that's a GOOD THING. I believe we can get back there, but we MUST regain control of our own media to do it. /end
NOW, I think my idea about “neutralizing” the FAKE NEWS MEDIA is really key to this, but probably not enough. FAKE ENTERTAINMENT has to be dealt with as well. And more.
But that’s just ME.
What about YOU? What do all of YOU think? Most of you have been unplugged from FAKE WORLD enough that you may be seeing answers, too. You may see that THE RIGHT is going to be who solves this problem – not THE LEFT.
When is reporting on leftist DEFENSE a form of wrap-up smear? Well, probably when something is so damaging to the left, they actually have to defend on it. Whatever.
For the record, Schiff is married and his wife is “not unattractive”. She’s named Eve, and supposedly they get a lot of jokes about the “Adam and Eve” thing.
Also, for the record, it’s a bit of karma that the left’s cynical pushing of the right’s REAL rumors of REAL Democrat pedophilia (you know – the tacky, sordid, normal, kind, like HERE) “over the edge” into “crazy, unbelievable, pizzagate” territory should now come back to bite Schiff – if these rumors are NOT true, but whatever.
TIME WOUNDS ALL HEELS.
Seriously – THE NEWS is THE NEWS now. So as SNOPES accidentally TWISTS THE KNIFE on Adam Schiff, WE REPORT and YOU DECIDE.
Personally, I think it’s incredibly stupid for them to aggressively defend on this unless Schiff is guilty. But then when it comes to stupid AND evil, the left excels, trying to hide the LATTER under the FORMER so often, we simply expect it.
For the record, I believe that something is up with Schiff, but I have no idea what it ACTUALLY is. Could be more along the lines of corruption involving China and the Long Beach port. I do suspect that he likes money and power more than little boys, but you never know.
You can actually go to WD-40’s site, and they debunk a lot of myths, but NOT this ad in particular, that I can find. Maybe a more diligent search would find this particular ad. Seems like a weaponized omission to me – make people search their site more deeply. AH, NUMBERS.
But anyway, when I “googled” using NOT GOOGLE, the SNOPES entry was already showing not merely the Schiff defense right through in the text, but even the ANTI-TRUMP.
If you look at the TOP ITEM (from Snopes), you can see the ANTI-TRUMP, and PRO-CHICOM stuff just leaking right through:
Nov 12, 2014 Is a 1964 WD-40 Ad Full of Sexual Innuendo? … Hundreds of fake account admins and 1,929 Facebook advertising violations only begin to tell the story of the Epoch Times-linked, pro-Trump empire …
This had the effect of reminding me of how, during the Trump campaign – particularly the PRIMARIES, there was an INCREDIBLE amount of MALICIOUS ADS targeting Donald Trump on INCESTUOUS PEDOPHILIA. Yes. NASTY. Pictures of Businessman Trump with his daughter Ivanka, insinuating very ugly stuff.
Remember those ads? They were too cringey to even take screenshots, although I wish I had. I was not as versed in the art of DISARMING psychological malware to STUDY THE BOMB back then.
Kinda like THIS, only in salacious ad form. I think they led to a lot of sites like these:
They were EVERYWHERE, and a lot of them went past ad blockers and privacy software, because they were FORCED onto conservative websites and blogs by Soviet CIA front companies that specialize in nasty politics by malicious ads.
Yeah.
SO…..
Is Adam Schiff a pedophile? And is he still beating his lovely wife?
scott467 November 3, 2019 at 02:37 Q’s last post today included a link to Wyatt’s twitter post and concluded with RIG FOR RED:
………………………………………. 3574 New: Title TBD Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 2 Nov 2019 – 7:25:13 PM https://twitter.com/3Days3Nights/status/1190742277771202560📁 https://twitter.com/SayWhenLA/status/1190757918712434689📁 RIG FOR RED ………………………………………..
I didn’t know what ‘Rig for Red’ meant exactly, but I found this:
The term “Rig for Red” is actually an older term, since most submarines today use broadband Blue lighting for night operations. Many spaces on older boats still have Red lighting, though.
“Rig for Red” is normally a command used in the Control Room. It is normally used when the boat is going to be surfacing or coming to Periscope Depth at night. The purpose is to give the lookouts and the officer designated to head to the bridge upon surfacing a chance for their eyes to adjust to darkness, or the OOD the same thing before looking through the Periscope. However, with the change to Blue, often times Red glasses are also used to provide the same effect and then Control is changed when the command is given to surface or come to PD.
During Battle Stations and at night, many spaces are rigged for red in order to simulate night conditions. While submerged underwater during normal operations, the only real reference for the time of day is the meal being served, since most boats operate on an 18 hour rotation and not a 24 hour rotation (6 hours on watch, 12 off). The red/dark conditions are more so people can sleep rather than to simulate night. Underway, the sleeping areas are always dark unless it’s a cleanup day, a drill is going on, or Battle Stations has been sounded.
Though the sleeping areas are still configured for Red lighting, tactical spaces and the Control Room were changed to broadband Blue lighting in the 80’s when it was determined that the color was easier on the eyes under normal working conditions over long periods. I always hated it – a lot harder to catch an undetected nap in the corner than it was when Red was used. ……………………..
The above tweet is where the thread appears to end in the threadreaderapp version, but the thread is actually broken there. If you click on the last tweet in Twitter, you get another dozen posts.
I think it’s very useful to see how much smarter than all these pundits our VSG actually is. Check this sad-sack, face-palm, “sometimes-Trump” tweet out. Some people just never really get it.
Even if it’s true, absolutely none of it changes the underlying facts. When an allied leader asked for desperately needed military aid, the president asked him to investigate a crazy conspiracy theory and a political rival. That happened. https://t.co/D2VX0E26hA
When David French is NOT making a fool of himself about whatever it is that he doesn’t get about what our VSG is doing – meaning roughly 90% of the time – he’s very useful to read. But the fact is, there is a reason I literally THANK GOD for President Trump – and it’s the remaining 10% of the time.
FEW PEOPLE can deal with that stuff.
OUR VSG CAN.
A toast – to our wonderful POTUS, and the Republicans who have the SENSE to trust him.
I hope you will all join me!
A toast to our VSG and his merry band of nation-saving patriots!
It’s the end of the month. I put my money where my mouth is. The DEMS and their RINO SQUISHES need to know where we stand.
A Deplorable Abroad, Wherein Keln’s Meme Takes on a Profound Second Meaning
I must begin by admitting – to a limited extent – where I was during my recent absence.
For a short time, I was in Paris – as in Paris, France. I was forced by circumstances to take a taxi across downtown Paris on a rather noisy, wet, and surprisingly warm night.
It was only about 15 minutes out of my entire journey – maybe a half hour at most – but in that short time, I lucked into some of the most important information I’ve ever managed to pick up.
Nothing secret – nothing dangerous – nothing of monetary value to me, nor to anybody I know. And yet – what I learned is of immense value to those of us who actually care about the future of this world. It is of particular value to you, my fellow QTreepers, and to the rest of our fellow Deplorables.
I would hardly think that a random cab-driver – a talkative Francophone immigrant from Nigeria who was nonetheless eager to try his English – might change my entire outlook on the world, but that is exactly what happened. And who knows? This man’s wonderful and engaged thoughts, poured out to a random American who flagged down his random taxi on a random Paris street – might even influence an entire nation, far away.
To set the stage for our conversation, I should tell you that I had – without seeking them out – already encountered the “yellow jackets” in France. I won’t say where or when, other than that it was also on this trip.
The yellow jackets I saw were not violent at all. They were like you see them in the photograph here – peacefully assembled. There were enough of them – a dozen or two – that it was not pathetic, but not so many that it would have been an actual staged protest. It was more like a vigil – a kind of semi-permanent reminder to the authorities that the movement was not going to simply go away.
I am not convinced that it is the actual yellow jackets who are violent. The group I encountered was just outside one of the premiere historical strongholds of communists in France. I have believed for some time that communist infiltration has been used to provoke violence in both France and Hong-Kong, in order to alienate peaceful citizens from the protesters, and thus PREVENT the formation of any significant, peaceful movement like that created by Martin Luther King, Jr.
Very important. THEY DON’T WANT A PEACEFUL MOVEMENT. See a guy named “Q”.
I have wanted to say this for some time, but it was not until I spotted the geographic coincidence of active yellow jackets and potentially infiltrating communists that I had any proof of this.
It was my impression that in “flyover France” I have actually encountered MANY “out of uniform” yellow jackets who were simply leading their daily lives, and not wearing their vests. To most visitors, I’m sure they just seem like normal men and women of France. They are just “regular, everyday people”. But to me – a deplorable from America – I could spot them in the same way that I can spot a fellow deplorable here. They were French men and women of the working and small business classes – honest to a fault – who have a kind of well-earned pride in their lives, their regions, their beliefs, and their country – something that has always made FRANCE a thing of its own, and a place worth visiting.
So – when I took that fateful taxi ride, I was already practiced in spotting those who belong to the simmering populist underside of France. And when I spotted my driver as possibly being one of les deplorables français, I knew exactly what to do.
I invoked my greatest superpower – the ability to grant completely free speech to anybody!
A taxi sign is illuminated in green to signify it is available for hire during a protest by licensed taxi drivers in Paris on January 17, 2018, to ask the authorities for the compliance and enforcement of legislation concerning VTC drivers (private hire drivers) operating in the French capital. (Photo by Philippe LOPEZ / AFP)
I could tell that my driver wanted to say something. I could sense that he was holding back – that he wanted to pour something out to an American. Having been “trained” by all the people who have tried to pump me for information over my lifetime, I simply did the same to him – responding to everything he said with small bits of encouraging agreement – administered every time he said something.
It was easy. After all, as you will see, I could find some point of agreement with everything he was saying. In only a minute or two, he was edging into politics. EXACTLY where I was hoping he would go. My enthusiastic agreement with his final point – leaning forward excitedly from the back seat – was all it took to make him “go there” for the rest of the ride.
I was very careful not to throw out any “big rocks” like “pro-Trump” or “Republican” or things that might inhibit him from pouring out his honest beliefs. MY politics didn’t matter. I wanted to see the world from HIS point of view. So I responded with broader PRINCIPLES OF AGREEMENT, or smaller POINTS OF PARALLEL, rather than LABELS or any other potential deal-breakers. It was a remarkably effective strategy.
As he began shifting into unabashed politics, I realized that he was just like us. I was actually STUNNED to realize that everything Flep has been telling us about the yellow jackets is PAINFULLY true.
So when we say that FLEP is the REAL NEWS now, this is NOT bullshit. It’s REALITY.
My taxi driver may or may not have been a yellow jacket – probably NOT, if I had to guess. However, he was BY ALL MEANS a remarkably deep sympathizer with their movement. He was VISIBLY AND DEEPLY ANGRY at their injuries at the hands of the police, but he did not blame it on the police – he blamed it on the French GOVERNMENT and MEDIA.
In what was one of the biggest “black comedy horror laughs” that we shared, he described how the French government and media will jump to unified outrage at the slightest protest violence in Russia, but will not even mention grave injuries to yellow jackets in their own country.
All I could think was “Muh Russia – so THEY have it, too.”
I should tell you that, by this point in the conversation, I was thinking “What the hell – does this guy read SUNDANCE? Is he following TRUMP TWEETS? Is he lurking on OUR BLOG?”
Seriously, the guy sounded like a deplorable or a Treeper on Twitter. Although I never asked his opinion of Trump, nor did he ever SAY as much, his VIEW OF THE WORLD was UTTERLY TRUMPIAN. It was STRAIGHT OUTTA the thinking of Trump, Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Sundance, although tempered with bits of Cernovich, Raimondo, Rand Paul, and others on the “MAGA left” and libertarian side. But yet he was almost certainly unaware of ANY of these people, except Trump.
None of this is to say that he was “pro-American”. Not at all. Neither was he anti-American. He was like a lot of legal immigrants in America – almost RABIDLY loyal to his newly adopted country. But I sensed that he was outraged that the old France – the one he had signed onto – the one he believed in – was slipping away. Actually, that’s not strong enough. He believed that it was being DESTROYED.
The culprit? He made no evasion – GLOBALISM and the FAILED ESTABLISHMENT.
This taxi driver was remarkably fluent in economics, with his ultimate viewpoint being very Trumpian, in my opinion – that capitalism is good, but that the PEOPLE have to be able to control it, or else it will act in ways to the detriment of the people as a whole. His concerns were more along the lines of capitalism’s loyalty to stockholders over the good of the country – my concerns were more about the dangers of monopoly. But it was clear to me that we were both seeing capitalism from the populist point of view, somewhat along Bannon lines.
He saw the rise of China and the basic improvement of the lot of the Chinese people as a demonstration of the good side of capitalism. And yet, he saw the PROBLEMS of China, France, and America all arising from capitalism as well, albeit for different reasons.
In the case of China, he saw the “wild west” nature of its capitalism as having led to the rapid build-up, but also resulting in the extreme fakeness of the Chinese market. Queue a link to Daughn’s wonderful post about the Generalized China Hustle:
But let’s not dump unfairly on China alone here. He reserved his greatest accusations of fakeness for the American economy (which he nonetheless insisted was a superpower, as per Sundance and Trump) and the French establishment’s “fake narrative”, with which the government and media deludes the French people.
All in all, a remarkable indictment of PHONY GLOBALISM.
This idea of “fakeness” was a real unifier for this taxi driver – something which obviously blew me away, since “FAKE” is something I harp about all the time (“fake news, fake entertainment, fake history, fake science, fake normal, fake reality”). In his opinion, our “fake news” (which I brought up, and which made him laugh) is actually SMALL POTATOES next to the overall MASSIVE FAKENESS of the French establishment NARRATIVE (his words).
In his opinion, there is massive economic FAKERY which is problematic for both France and America. He had NO ILLUSIONS about the continued extreme FAKENESS of the American DEBT and DEFICIT situations – something that our very own NY GUY is always reminding us about. In my opinion, this is one of the most important things he mentioned. I will get back to the taxi driver’s thinking in more detail later.
SIDEBAR: The DEBT PROBLEM – by the way – is also a 2020 WINNER for Republicans in the HOUSE and SENATE. If we FINALLY want to get control of the outrageous albatrosses holding back our economy, then we MUST give TRUMP the tools he needs, and that means a REPUBLICAN HOUSE, able to FIX the budgetary problems Pelosi REFUSES to address. The VOTERS will SEE THIS and UNDERSTAND.
But beyond this, my taxi driver believes that the French people have been massively deluded by a completely FAKE NARRATIVE (his words) – a kind of ILLUSION – both economic and cultural – which is now CRUMBLING (his word) in the eyes of the French people.
Never did I hear the terms “Q”, “Great Awakening”, or anything remotely close to any of the memes we have here for such things. And yet, that is EXACTLY what he was talking about. To me, it is not a coincidence – not an accident.
The GREAT AWAKENING, WORLDWIDE, is REAL.
GA is WW.
We may have different words to express it, but IT’S HAPPENING.
One of the most important things that my driver told me was why China is winning in Africa.
In fact, once he told me this, I was fully resolved to write this article, which I otherwise did NOT want to write. I value my travel privacy, and would rather people thought that I never leave Wolf Creek Junction for any purpose whatsoever. Well, too bad for moi. This is important stuff.
My driver’s observations are based upon his recent trips to Africa, where he observed developmental progress that shocked him – and which was, upon his investigation, the direct result of TRADE WITH CHINA.
According to my driver, Western nations and organizations, including very particularly the IMF, play a cruel and stealthy game of “blame the victim” (my words) that keeps Africa exactly where they want it. Rather than do the things that would let Africa actually develop, Western financial institutions withhold financing and trade using excuses like human rights, while – very cynically – said excuse problems are the precise outcome of lack of development.
To my thinking, it has become a kind of sick game, where unless Africa performs impossible or purpose-defeating demands, it can’t get what it needs. It’s like demanding that a drowning victim call out clearly and nicely something – maybe her PIN – if she wants a life preserver thrown to her – none of this “wave your arms and gurgle stuff” allowed.
This catch-22 situation is NOT unintended – it is purely intentional. It is part of the FAKENESS that the taxi driver places SQUARELY on what WE call “the cabal”.
So what does China do? First of all, what it’s best at – not giving a damn about human rights. Second of all, what it’s also best at – Wild-West capitalism.
Africa wants this? We want that. Is it a fair trade? You decide. But ONLY you decide.
“In a world of negative morality, the amoral man is POPE.” -WM
To me, there appears to be so much human sabotage here by the Western “cabal”, that I almost have to blame “pencilneck”, because only non-humans or malevolently programmed humans would be so sick and anti-human. But then again, when somebody can make the organ-harvesting ChiComs look like SAINTS, you have to be doing EVIL right in some way or another. That is definitely SATAN’S bag.
Ya know what I mean? Or maybe they just “aren’t their brother’s keeper”. There’s always that excuse.
Remember – if Africa’s problems are finally FIXED, then the cabal’s MONEY-LAUNDERING PLOYS and HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION FIELD LABORATORIES all go away.
Make sense now? They don’t want the problems to go away. THEY WANT THE PROBLEMS. JUST. LIKE. HERE.
And China may not be helping out of any kindness in its heart, but at least it’s not actively keeping Africa down. Well, maybe I should take that back.
Interesting world.
The point is simple. Why are WE letting China and THE SABOTAGE CABAL set the rules on Africa? It’s time to CALL THEM ALL OUT.
A few other odds and ends, as I recall them.
The deplorables of France seem to see the Syrian situation almost exactly like our deplorables see it – contrary to the view of the interventionist establishment. The French media, described by my taxi driver, sounded just like CNN on the issue of Syria. This is not surprising, given that I am aware of the degree to which the Japanese television media (especially NHK) is also dependent upon CNN for its view of America, if not the entire world.
Now it would be dishonest of me not to mention that the taxi driver thought America wastes way too much money on military spending, when its debt is so outrageous, but that leads me to a very important point I alluded to earlier.
I said this guy was fluent in economics, and I was almost thinking he sounded like the “Mises geeks” I’ve known. At the core of the world’s problems, he sees all of the dysfunction and fakeness flowing out of our bass-ackwards ideas of spending “play money” that we don’t actually have. Debt slavery of ALL MEN AND WOMEN is real and palpable to this guy. He sees it everywhere, where it has become invisible to us, like the memory of an elder favored brother who has left the home and still pollutes every decision. We don’t see it now, but since the mid-twentieth century, DEBT has slowly been used to ENSLAVE all of us to SELL-OUT GLOBALISM. First our homes, then our cars, and finally our children’s education. WE OWN NONE OF IT.
He sees the entire world LITERALLY ENSLAVED by the FAKE WORLD of DEBT.
Who has control? Not us.
I had never really seen how INSIDIOUS this is, until a cab driver in FRANCE of all places, explained it to me.
I could have talked with this guy for hours, but my mind was filled when we got to my stop. I wanted to remember everything he had said. I tipped him fair, but as an afterthought, realizing all he had given me, I gave him every coin in my pockets and thanked him.
And then, as he drove away, I realized. There was one more favor I could do him.
Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce my teacher, from France.
On October 20th The New York Times tried to paint a happy face on the full-on attempt to take down America. We all saw the classic somber talking heads repeating their scripted “4 AM talking points” about how honorable people are doing noble and heroic things to save us from … Donald J. Trump — the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Those writing the script are trying mass mind control on the sheep with a side order of crazy-making for the woke. There is a crisp smell of desperation in the air.
Let’s begin with some Q Posts with references to 4am [talking points]. (Qmap.pub)
Q has shown us that these 4am talking points are created and distributed as part of the weaponized assault on MAGA by those working for forces that hate our beloved America and all she stands for.
The stark reality of how of how these traitors have been destroying anyone in their way is laid out as clear as day in the following video. (I tried to get the video in the second tweet below to post on its own, but to no avail.)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1186758751136702464 Note the quick “sweet” smile by Pelosi at the end. It’s her practiced act to charm the listeners.
This would be a good one to keep plastering all over the internet.
Stephen Miller Leads the Counterpunch
The article, published on October 22, should make more than a few of those in the permanent bureaucratic class take pause.
“We’ve made clear that your leaks will backfire and your sabotage will fail, and we’ll simply implement the policy doubly,” he said. “Not only will you not change the outcome, but the more that you try to leak and disrupt, the more determined the president will be in his course to accomplish that which he was sent here to do.”
— Stephen Miller
It’s almost like those moments in the Lord of the Rings when the big Eye of Sauron turns to look directly at something. The timing and the intensity of this counterpunch demonstrates that this administration is ready and willing to take them all on and not stop until they are ground to dust, never to rise again.
Stephen Miller pushback: ‘Permanent bureaucracy a mortal threat to America’https://t.co/t12fbybsdA
Miller added, “A lot of us thought, if you go back many years before Donald Trump ever declared for president, we might never live to see the day when somebody would have the audacity to promise to fundamentally change a broken status quo then get to Washington and proceed to execute on every single thing that he promised to do no matter what was thrown his way. It is truly a miracle to behold.”
Some Republican congress-critters are proposing this solution…
This is a great idea as far too much power & influence is consolidated inside the DC Beltway where bureaucrats are insulated from the American people and perpetuate a faux bubble-mentality.
Here at the Q Tree we’ve discussed both the move-them-out-of-DC and the give-them-term-limits options and in the end a more direct approach gets a nod here. FG&C comments…
Term limits?
No.
Remove their job protections and make it easy to fire them…just like “at will” work laws. The fact that it is near impossible to fire these people is why they feel so secure and protected.
Put their job and careers at risk and a lot of this shit stops immediately.
And Wolfmoon agrees…
Agreed. Absolutely agreed. This is *SCIENCE* – it is literally mathematical biology. Unless the jobs of bureaucrats are in a DYNAMIC RELATIONSHIP with a power that can selectively remove them (a predator, basically), they will overpopulate and destroy the complex calculating properties of the system.
President Trump has FINALLY confronted the source of the problem.
Bureaucrats must secure their jobs by VALUE TO WHOEVER THE PEOPLE PUTS IN CHARGE. This is brilliant founder design. The commies have RUINED IT.
And, NY Guy helpfully has provided us with links to Federal pay scales…
… I found a website which details the pay scales for Federal employees including law enforcement. https://www.federalpay.org/
“FederalPay.org is a free public resource for United States Government employees. We have pay tables and pay calculators for all four major Federal Government pay scales and military service members, as well as a wealth of information on Per Diem rates, Federal holidays, a government employee database and more.”
Through 2017, there are 1,339,645 Federal employees over 375 agencies. The average salary is $69,344.22 (whoa). We spent $92.9 billion in total Federal employee compensation for 2017.
This all started because I wanted to find out who was in charge of GDP data at the BEA. Her name is Lisa Mataloni! And this website profiles her. https://www.federalpay.org/employees/bureau-of-economic-analysis/mataloni-lisa-s
She started in 2005 earning $65,853 and by 2017 she earned $103,639.
Anyways lots of cool stuff in here. As an example….
Here are a list of the Federal departments, number of personnel and their budgets! https://www.federalpay.org/departments
Private website with data gleaned from the OMB. It is pretty geeky but maybe one of you will enjoy this resource.
Comments?
And so here we are, it flashed by in the news cycle, but it looks like we are going to see a lot more happening in this battle space.
How do you see this unfolding?
p.s., I finally found someone that *might* have half as much energy as our own Daughnworks247…
Clowns revealed in China/other.
2010. [187]
Sold intel?
HRC open source server? [Missing emails] [CrowdStrike]
Granted access.
Betrayed.
Only the tip.
This will be made public [soon].
Q
>>2287348 >>2287348
What if the UK gov worked hand-in-hand w/ the Hussein admin to sabotage the 2016 election?
Data collection.
Voice.
Video.
Bugging.
Creation of fake intel dossier using ex spy.
Co-sponsor insurance policy re: POTUS election.
PS.
LP.
No Name.
Clapper.
Brennan.
Rice.
LL.
HRC.
BC.
Hussein.
+22
What if intel masked penetration(s) to frame Russia? Crowdstrike?
Servers.
SR.
JA.
Why does the UK gov desperately want JA?
Think source files.
The more you know.
Q
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies📁
“Elemental’s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA’s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships.”
“Multiple people familiar with the matter say investigators found that the chips had been inserted at factories run by manufacturing subcontractors in China.”
“One official says investigators found that it eventually affected almost 30 companies, including a major bank, government contractors, and the world’s most valuable company, Apple Inc.”
“One country in particular has an advantage executing this kind of attack: China, which by some estimates makes 75 percent of the world’s mobile phones and 90 percent of its PCs.”
“But that’s just what U.S. investigators found: The chips had been inserted during the manufacturing process, two officials say, by operatives from a unit of the People’s Liberation Army. In Supermicro, China’s spies appear to have found a perfect conduit for what U.S. officials now describe as the most significant supply chain attack known to have been carried out against American companies.”
The More You Know…
Q
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>>333
What is [CROWDSTRIKE]-gate?
Today Duchess posted this SgtReport article…
CROWDSTRIKEgate: A Massive Deep State Scandal that Will Collapse the Democrat Party
October 19, 2019
from State Of The Nation https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/10/crowdstrikegate-a-massive-deep-state-scandal-that-will-collapse-the-democrat-party/
“The impeachment hoax
was initiated because of
Trump’s determination
to fully expose
CROWDSTRIKEgate.
That radioactive scandal
perpetrated by CrowdStrike
and the DNC leadership
is so dangerous to the
Democrat Party they
desperately started the
impeachment inquiry.
Now Trump really wants
that epic fraud investigated
because his presidency
depends upon it.”
— Intelligence Analyst & Former U.S. Military Officer
It appears that it is time to dig in and pull together whatever details are out in the public domain. Hopefully some of our excellent authors can take the results, clean them up and post something good and devastating here at the WQTH.
Think*3
a guest post by our dear house guardian Suspicious Cat
NOTE FROM WOLF: This post may require some explanation.
After allowing my somewhat mythical and somewhat not mythical sister Fox Moon to have her guest post, our dear pet Suspicious Cat has demanded to have his post, too.
You see, Suspicious Cat considers himself to be NORMAL CAT, and the rest of us to be DUPEY HUMANS, HUMAN SHEEP, or TALL DUMB DOGS, depending upon how stupid we are about things. He just thinks that humans are the best deal he’s going to get, so he’s “covering the downside” by watching out for us. And OH YEAH, he would vote for TRUMP if Democrats would let him.
Anyway, Suspicious Cat thought I made an exceptionally cat-like, albeit “incomplete like quantum mechanics” thread on Twitter, and he’s demanding to post it here, since he knows that my Twitter account is highly throttled and shadow-banned by other Dupey, Sheep-Like, Tall, Dumb Dogs. So here you go. Enjoy being lectured by a mouthy pet who thinks even the Watch Dog is an idiot.
W
PART 1: Hanlon’s Dull Razor
Thanks, Wolf. I’ll take it from here.
Wolf made an interesting thread on Twitter yesterday, and I’d like to begin there. Actually, it started with his Twitter friend Girl Grimly, who noticed Maggie Haberman “playing dumb” on Trump’s strategy vis-a-vis Turkey, Erdogan and Syrian withdrawal.
You will notice that there is a typically human non-sequitur here – “You cannot possibly be this stupid.” followed almost directly by “The globalist DC establishment is stupid.“
Just like what happened repeatedly with that smarter human named Einstein, this very bright young lady “had it right the first time“.
They cannot possibly be this stupid.
Smart people are remarkably easy to fool. Particularly if you tell them they’re SMART. After that, you can deceive them in all kinds of ways. Trust me – I’m a PET. Laziest, most deceptive job on Earth. I know how this works.
Normally, Wolf doesn’t catch onto this stuff, but for some reason, this time he did. So here is what Wolf said in response. We will start from the top using IMAGES – not tweets, because eventually Girl Grimly will be banned from Twitter, and only the DNC and CIA will have access to her wisdom.
See how that works? And you people are STILL ON TWITTER. Ridiculous.
To which Wolf said (with ZERO engagement, of course)….
Social media for humans to vent, in combination with Fake News playing dumb, is an amazing control tool to keep humans in the kiddie pool. In a normal world run by household pets like me, Maggie Haberman would have been fired long ago for this crap. But she’s actually a pet to her masters, and she is intellectually lazy – ON COMMAND – to get her treats.
It really is “fake news”. It’s a way of controlling people. It is NOT real news. It’s a kind of movable jail without bars.
Anyway, despite the fact that nobody is ever going to see his postings on Twitter, Wolf rather stupidly kept yelling into the void.
Wolf made this point before – LOST in the void of TWITTER.
Thomas Wictor likes to use Hanlon’s Razor, and while Thomas is a smart person, remember what I said – SMART PEOPLE are among the easiest to fool.
Wolf’s explanation of the fallacy follows:
Wolf’s corrected maxim, “Stupidity is likely to explain misfortune where deception is highly unlikely.“, accounts for the intriguing fact that the smarter and more capable the deceiver is, relative to the deceived, the EASIER it is to rely on deception, which in the case in question would mean PLAYING DUMB. This is why deception has to be not just unlikely, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY, for Hanlon’s Razor to even BEGIN making sense. Otherwise, Hanlon’s Razor is BACKWARDS thinking.
Hanlon’s Razor….
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
….is problematic because YOUR stupidity matters even more than the PRESUMED stupidity of the potential perpetrator of “whatever”. If the other party is smarter than YOU, then they can simply FEIGN STUPIDITY and you will TAKE THE BAIT.
They have ACHIEVED COVER.
I really have to admire the remarkable LULLING that Hanlon’s Razor accomplishes. To REMEMBER this deceitful malaphorism PROPERLY, remember it being whispered into a foolish king’s ear by your tribe’s mortal enemy, whoever that may be.
“I beg of thee, your Highness – remember thy own wisdom, as I have remembered it, and dare I say been served so well by such wise thought – that we must never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
“Oh, NOES! NEVAH!”
Sheesh.
THE CHUMPHOOD. IT BURNS.
Let’s go on.
Wolf hadn’t noticed this part about “malice”, THE LAST TIME he woke up on Hanlon’s Razor, only to be lulled back into “compliance”. I’m very glad he spotted it, because the “malice” part ALWAYS grated on my nerves.
Malice is a diversion – a presumption – a shiny object – a distraction.
The sleight of hand of asserting MALICE helps to sell the LIE that is Hanlon’s Razor.
If you’ve ever dealt with real criminals, like my previous owners (yes, I’m a rescue), then you understand that they are malicious about as often as good people. They just follow a simple rule:
“The rules don’t matter if I don’t get caught breaking them.”
Crooks are actually somewhat lovable people. They have reasons for breaking the rules, just like others have reasons for following them. Malice is rarely part of the equation.
It’s hilarious, but there should be a FULL STOP in Hanlon’s Razor, the absence of which almost argues for its diabolical intelligence. We’ll use a different form that shows it more clearly:
“Never assume malice when stupidity will do.”
But look at it this far:
“Never assume malice….”
“WAYUL SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!”
You just assumed malice, as DIRECTED by the PROGRAMMING of the assertion.
Take a look at how this looks from the “perp side of the con job”….
“Never assume malice, but you just did, and your stupidity will do.”
Are you seeing this? I hope so. It really is time for you tall dogs to grow the XXXX up.
Let’s go on.
Wolf is onto the key point. Hanlon’s Razor is very useful for DELUDED SHEEP to keep themselves in line.
“Don’t worry about that bloody spot. Nobody was malicious! Somebody was just stupid!”
Do you see how this has the wonderfully deceptive property of being “not even wrong“, due to the false attribution of malicious intent from the start?
SIDEBAR:
Has anybody studied the theory of “dead-endedness” of theories, or of theoretical approaches? Would older civilizations have discovered this idea first? Would they be tempted to – well – use it, for – say – “mutual benefit”?
Just theoretically. Since we’re all talking about deception.
Think about it.
Suspicious Cat
So let’s bring this back to something we can remember and carry with us at all times.
And I’m not going to let you go to the water fountains from hour 1 of this class without some homework.
The link won’t work in the tweet image. Try these links. FIRST, a variety of translations of Matthew 10:16.
SO, go take a break, and come back to the next step – how to GO BEYOND the Mamet Principle, using Hanlon’s Broken Razor as a BEATER SCREWDRIVER.
PART 2: Beyond The Mamet Principle
OK, class. There is a reason that we’re back here.
We need to bust not just one, but TWO ideas. The problem is, the second one is actually EXTREMELY useful as a “spotting scope”, but it is NOT accurate as a RANGE-FINDER.
What I am talking about is the Mamet principle, something which was LOOSELY stated by liberal-turned-conservative playwright David Mamet.
“In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments modern liberals have to pretend not to know things…”
Sundance, paraphrasing David Mamet in his book “The Secret Knowledge”
Wolf was taught this idea by SUNDANCE at The Last Refuge. Sundance uses it A LOT. Wolf LOVES it. So much so, that he made that MEME above, which alludes to the Mamet Principle using the idea that liberals utterly ignore Uranium One and the payoffs that Hillary Clinton received, to the tune of 146 million dollars. Liberals who still support Hillary Clinton LITERALLY pretend that these things didn’t happen, and/or don’t matter. The meme is designed to make liberals UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PRETENSE.
For some background on the Mamet Principle, [Go Deep] here:
Now, recently, Wolf started to WAKE UP on an idea – the idea that one can USE the Mamet Principle like ALGEBRA to SOLVE for what liberals are ACTUALLY DOING.
This is sometimes a scary thought, as you will see. When liberals PRETEND things, it is comfortable to think that they’re just being ILLOGICAL. What is NOT comfortable is realizing that they are actually pursuing something, and that their LIES are actually LOGICAL in that pursuit.
It is very important to DIVORCE the “brain-dead fronts” themselves from the liberal propaganda. Maxine Waters and Beto O’Rourke may be fronting the illogic, but if you let them personify it, you may have trouble appreciating the STALIN or the BERIA or the HOLDER or the AXELROD behind it.
Here is Wolf on Twitter again, as he was starting to see this. Let’s track his understanding as it grows.
The left pretends not to know that shutting down THEIR AntiFa is key to solving the political violence. #Charlottesville#MametPrinciple
You can see here that Wolf was starting to get beyond the illogic – to see their LOGIC. The leftists WANT the political violence. That is a HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. It means they’re BOLSHEVIKS. It is much easier – much more comfortable – to think they’re stupid.
Their IDEAS and LYING GOALS interpreted at face value may be illogical, but the PEOPLE are not. Perhaps the “brain-dead fronts” who PARROT the ideas are illogical and stupid, but NOT the people behind the situation.
THEY HAVE A PLAN.
Now look at this two-tweet response to Thomas Wictor. You have to follow it to Twitter, to see Thomas’s “missing” tweets, all nice and linked up in a row and weirdly accounted for, yet somehow invisible. It is extremely reasonable to presume that Thomas’s TWEET DATA is still on Twitter, usable by DNC and CIA. But WE cannot see it.
It's the Mamet Principle on mega-steroids. Liberals pretend not to know.
Kristin Welker’s FACE says more than 1000 words could possibly tell us.
THEY KNOW. THEY ARE NOT STUPID. It is not illogic. WE are the ones who are being illogical about THEM. We are not admitting that this Fake News Media is absolutely NOT ON OUR SIDE – meaning HUMANITY AS WE KNOW IT – and must be UTTERLY REJECTED.
Don’t assume THEY are stupid. Look hard. Look deep. Be humble. Who is REALLY being stupid? It is only by adopting THIS attitude that we can EVICT THEM from our lives.
Consider how the media CONSCIOUSLY slanders and CONSCIOUSLY psy-ops us, while simply pretending they are not. It’s worse than phony. It’s literally CRIMINAL but they get away with it by HIDING MALICE.
Here, Wolf talks about another Wolff, that horrible author of lies and malicious slander, who “pretends not to know” that he publishes assault garbage for a political agenda. Wolf also lays into another bad practice of the left in the publishing world, while he’s at it.
The left can stop almost any book they want, LONG before it goes to press. They STEAL pitches and give them to favorites like Chelsea Clinton. But by pretending not to know it's BS (Mamet principle), they can let psy-op slander move all the way to their #FakeNews talk cycles.
Perhaps the best place that Wolf actually put his new realization to use, as he was developing it, was PARKLAND. The entire operation depended on MASSIVE PRETENSE OF IGNORANCE.
Here is the first tweet of Wolf’s LONG THREAD on it.
This is in many ways a restatement of the Mamet Principle, but it shows that at the upper echelons of leftist thought, the pretense of ignorance is used in a highly strategic manner to achieve "social justice "goals. This can and will be demonstrated by deconstructing #Parkland. https://t.co/Do2u14C6QG
It turned out that the situation was even WORSE than that.
Wolf LATER applied the Mamet Principle, and seeing beyond it, to Twitter’s shadowbanning of conservatives. Another long thread HERE:
Part of the reason we're winning is that we actually try to understand things – for example, Twitter. The left has no clue – and doesn't REALLY try to get one. Observe this leftist troll, one Bradley "I block Nazis" Duke, who thinks he understands shadowbanning, but doesn't. pic.twitter.com/mgIfZTj7IS
Here is where Wolf was starting to see the connection to Hanlon’s Razor:
Mamet principle – leftists "pretending not to know" that their STUPID actions will have the INTENDED evil consequences. Note to all rational conservatives: Leftists figured out LONG AGO that the old saw "Never attribute to malice yada yada yada" is some of the best cover EVER. https://t.co/NTkuUEj5Tgpic.twitter.com/JdSE8X0rc4
Most recently, Wolf applied this idea of “logical lies behind Mamet principle apparent illogic” in dealing with a troll, who formed part of a three-way “conversation” (sort of) with Girl Grimly:
Appreciate the support, @ed_grimly! That boy is a perfect example of what @TheLastRefuge2 calls the Mamet Principle – David Mamet's contention that leftists feign ignorance to advance illogical arguments. I take it one step further. The illogic is a byproduct of hidden LIES. pic.twitter.com/fSNqaXmMPm
The hard thing to accept is that there are many on the other side who are more or less beyond redemption. We can influence those on the left who have accepted leftist positions due to many positive motivations, but not those who are deceptive by nature and fully love the lie. pic.twitter.com/AUsqYfK3RI
It’s very simple. DO NOT assume that the leftists are stupid. Yes, some of them ARE stupid, and THEY are the ones who make excellent FRONTS – a deception that buys time and opportunity for the more devious leftists.
When liberals “pretend not to know things”, don’t stop there. They are PLAYING STUPID or fronting a stupid position, but it is not the REAL position. Their stated goals are not the REAL goals.
FIND the real goals and STOP THEM from getting there.
Here is an actual plan of action.
when you hear illogic, realize that they pretend not to know
ask yourself why they would LOGICALLY do what they do
figure out what the LIE actually is, and WHY they are lying
explain the lie OPENLY to truth-tellers, to DISARM the left
work with other truth-tellers to END the source of the illogic
A perfect example of this technique, is how we shut down the Obama-Holder “Promise Programs” that were destroying due process (Trayvon Martin) and creating propaganda such as the Parkland massacre. The left had pretended not to know what was happening. We had to figure out what WAS happening – what the LIES actually were – and then STATE THEM OPENLY.
It was identifying the CONSPIRACY OF FEIGNED STUPIDITY and LIES behind #Parkland that put the Promise Programs in jeopardy.
find the indefensible reality behind the lies and illogic
accuse the left openly of the indefensible reality
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Autumn. Two years ago, we were fighting back HARD. I remember. Interesting times.
We’re still here. And we’re still not budging.
Where We Go One, We Go All.
W
ADDENDUM:
Well, I happen to be here tonight, so I decided to add some commentary to my placeholder daily post.
I wanted to talk about CULTURAL MARXISM…..
Apparently this new “Joker” movie is the height of cultural Marxism:
I am also discovering just how evil these people are, by watching, long-term, how the Googloid Mensheviks at YouTube are influencing my WIFE with their product. I wish that I could say they are merely “attempting to influence her”, but the fact is, they are ACTUALLY influencing her. It is INSIDIOUS. And I now have PROOF OF IT, that will stand up in court. I only await STANDING. I’m hoping not to actually GET standing, but just in case, I predict that standing would be a TRANSFORMATIVE opportunity for MORAL and ETHICAL tech, shall we say.
If I were not AWARE of how cultural Marxism works in general, in the large, on society, I would never have caught on to how it works on individual people, which I’ve had to theorize from deep study of serial killers, school shooters, false flag patsies, Marxist radicals, and the like. I had to catch up with a lot of secret CIA psychological research, done over many decades.
Cutting the cable was ESSENTIAL to see it. This is why cutting the cable is such a danger to CIA, Hollywood, and the cultural Marxists that have infested BOTH. Cutting the cable gives one true societal perspective, sharp and clear – even down to a personal level. By cutting the cable, I am not subject to the moral creep of “Fake Normal” which is promoted by the mind control media. Instead, I can SEE THAT CREEP.
Now, watching YouTube work on my wife over time, I am not being shifted along with “Fake Normal” and “Fake Reality”, and she is only being shifted by YouTube and a couple of mild PBS shows. I can see how cultural Marxist mass media CHANGES HER.
It is SURPRISINGLY FAST. Shockingly fast. Horrifyingly fast.
Technology, quite simply, CANNOT be trusted to these people.
The tech monopolies MUST be destroyed, to create healthy alternatives for mankind.
W
On another note, 10/10 is in 2 days. Did you know that 1010 (base 2) = 10 (base 10)? Fun fact.
Anyway, be ready.
Last but not least, we have THREE rallies coming up. 10/10, 10/11, 10/Q.
Hey, it’s not every day that I get to post something that’s not only about the unspeakable issue of vaccines, but is both PRO-VAX and ANTI-VAX at the same time.
I mean, what’s the use of FREE SPEECH if we can’t use it to troll EVERYBODY – including PENCILNECK?
Whoops – WRONG PENCILNECK. Let’s try that again….
THERE we go. That’s “better”!
Schiffty don’t like what he calls “misinformation” about vaccines. Well, consider this an OPINION piece, kinda like a RESTAURANT REVIEW. You can’t “misinform” in an artistic review of “so bad they’re good” side effects. Particularly when the flavorful review is comin’ from a connoisseur of dark beers, overpowering “old man” colognes, shockingly compliment-getting retrograde fashions, and KICK-ASS IMMUNE RESPONSE.
Not to mention wife-appalling HAWAIIAN SHIRTS.
Yeah, think of this as a CRITICAL REVIEW of the Italian medical opera Vaccino Zoster Ricombinante Contro il Lupo. Which as you will see is not exactly Springtime for Shingles, but it gets the job done and has the POSERS and LIGHTWEIGHTS among the “appassionato di anticorpi” running for the DOORS.
“Immunity? You want IMMUNITY? You can’t HANDLE THE IMMUNITY!”
Yeah. And while that FAT LADY named Zoster Booster ain’t sung yet, the VIRAL TABLOID NEWS is running for the phones with the STORY OF THE CENTURY!
STAND BACK.
THIS TRAIN don’t carry no PENCIL.
I mean NONE.
Now,
you have to understand that I actually LIKE getting vaccinated.
I was in school when the POLIO vaccine came out, and mothers BEGGED to come to school to MAKE SURE their children got the vaccine. MOMS talked about polio all the time. And so did kids. We asked LOTS of questions:
Why do those weird canes look like that?
Why do they call it the March of Dimes?
Can you still breathe in a wheelchair if you get polio?
How bad is the iron lung?
Was the president who had polio ever in the iron lung?
Why doesn’t the vaccine help people who already got polio?
The first time I got vaccinated, I cried, like most of the kids. The second time, however, the nurse taught us that if we laughed before she stuck the needle in, it wouldn’t hurt enough to make us cry – and she was RIGHT. And while this wasn’t the FIRST psy-op taught to me, it would always remain one of the best and most useful.
We knew we had to get the vaccine. Nobody wanted to end up like the “cripples” – or “the handicapped” as one said in more polite company. They were everywhere. You could not go downtown – even in our small town – and not see them.
Some were from The War, or maybe Korea, but by the time they cured polio, there were more people disabled from polio – or at least it seemed that way.
My babysitter – or “sitter” “for short” – was born in the 1800s. She was old, but tough as leather, and sharp as a tack. Nowadays, she would be considered “remarkably spry”, but there were many tough old birds like her, back then. She could recite hundreds of Bible verses perfectly. She hadn’t just SEEN wagon wheels by the sides of barns like we did – she RODE in wagons – covered and uncovered – as her main mode of transportation – long after the first cars and trucks appeared. She had perfect memories of two Testaments, two World Wars, and every kid she ever “sat”.
Most of all, she had experienced almost every major communicable disease EXCEPT polio. She could tell you ALL ABOUT THEM. Everything you wanted to know. She may have been a nurse when she was younger – I don’t remember. She did indeed live a rather extraordinary life.
Her BIGGIE was SMALLPOX – and she had the scars to prove it. While not all smallpox scars look the same, hers appeared as big, roughly circular, dark brown spots on her arms, legs, hands, face, and neck. She had some on her body, too, that she swore were there, but never showed us.
Compared to many people with more “pock-like” smallpox scars, hers were not bad at all – really more like big moles or nevi, though not quite beauty spots, so she never saw fit to have them removed, even though such things had become possible by the 1960s.
She was PROUD of her scars, and GRATEFUL that God saw fit for her to live.
With such things not only known to all of us, but topics of casual discussion, the idea of not getting vaccinated was regarded not as some kind of option, but rather as a misfortune. As in, “Did you hear? Eleanor CAN’T get the vaccine – she’s allergic to it.” “Oh, no. I’m so sorry for her. Are they sure? Can’t they they come up with a different kind of vaccine for people like her?”
All of us got the smallpox vaccine. The smallpox vaccine would typically produce a big welt on your shoulder, which would then heal to a big scab and fall off, leaving a very typical SCAR. The vaccine scar was not nearly as bad as a smallpox scar. All the women and girls had the vaccination scar, except my sitter, who didn’t need it. Sometimes you had to look a bit to find the vaccination mark on a girl’s shoulder, but it was always there.
Here is a good link to learn more about smallpox and its cure by vaccination, as taught in the context of some Fake Entertainment television show about time travel.
And HERE is where we are introduced to the ideas behind Retrosynthetic DINOPOX.
THE IDEA OF AVOIDING SMALLPOX
by INOCULATION – basically “special, controlled, intentional infection” – using the smallpox virus ITSELF is called “variolation”. Although people didn’t know that it was a VIRUS, they knew that certain types of exposure to smallpox were “less deadly” than others. In fact, the rather horrifying idea of “sniffing powdered smallpox scabs” or “scratching fluids from a smallpox infection into the skin” reduced the mortality from upwards of 30% (the exact figure depends on who one asks, and at what time in history one is talking about) to only 2%. This was definitely practiced in China in the 10th and 16th centuries, and may have been practiced about 2000 years earlier in India.
The idea is that you will definitely get it, but it will be mild and you almost always won’t die, knock on wood.
Controlled exposure to the deadly contagion, so that one might live.
The next powerful advance, however, was not variolation but vaccination – so named because it used the much less dangerous COWPOX to give immunity to both cowpox and smallpox.
Finally, nowadays, when vaccination for smallpox is done, it uses not cowpox but the related vaccinia virus, which again gives immunity to both cowpox and smallpox as well.
So now let’s talk about SHINGLES and the SHINGLES VACCINE.
Shingles is basically what chickenpox looks like when it COMES BACK FROM DORMANCY later in life. And chickenpox is a bit LIKE smallpox, but it is really a different beast, which is not protected against by the smallpox vaccination. It’s a WHOLE ‘NUTHER POX – and MUCH less serious.
The chickepox vaccine was a replacement for what WE had as children – CHICKENPOX PARTIES – in which all the moms would make sure their kids GOT CHICKENPOX at a “good age”, when the disease was mild, the child old enough to understand English, and the outcome assured – a LIFELONG immunity against chickenpox. Not only that – the “recurrence disease” of “shingles” – which does NOT present AT ALL like chickenpox – was not common for those who actually HAD chickenpox, and not the vaccine.
Shingles is NOT a fun disease. I’ve had it once, and it tried to come back at least once. The treatment was the same in all cases – ANTIVIRAL drugs to lessen the severity of the disease and then beat it back – something that actually works rather nicely.
The first time I had shingles, in my early 50s, it struck one of the upper quadrants of my head. I thought that I would be permanently disabled. I could not even think during the periodic bouts of debilitating head pain – which was accompanied by a kind of overall sensory nervous dysfunction – something a bit like electrical shock. I literally began retirement preparations, knowing that I would be unable to function in an office environment any longer.
I was very lucky that the antiviral drugs kicked in quickly, lessening the severity enough to work from home, and eventually ending the bout with no permanent nerve damage. Had it not been for antiviral drugs, I would have had to go on disability, or retire early.
When shingles tried to come back, I knew the early warning signs – which for me are certain very characteristic lesions – and I got the drugs immediately. It was a smart move. The disease backed off right away. And although it never progressed that far again, I did get periodic “super-early signs”, which told me shingles was still lurking, waiting to strike again.
SO – you can imagine why I might want to consider the shingles vaccine, despite SO many reports of nasty side effects.
Shingles SUCKS for Wolf. A mildly sucky vaccine is MY COWPOX.
Only – it’s not. There IS no cowpox for shingles.
However, the NEW shingles vaccine – a very high-tech combination of FAKE VIRUS (recombinant surface glycoproteins of the Herpes Zoster virus, expressed in cell cultures) and IMMUNE RESPONSE PROVOCATEURS (meaning adjuvants) – is just as good, if not better.
A good description from a pharmacist’s viewpoint is here:
Like COWPOX, which offers lifetime immunity to SMALLPOX, but through a very mild ACTUAL disease exposure – DINOPOX is gonna make you a bit ill. HOWEVER, in my opinion, it’s a whole lot better than real shingles, and well worth the problems.
Note that dinosaurs can be bigger than cows and are theoretically related to chickens, which however have nothing to do with chickenpox. How the name “chickenpox” was attached to chickenpox is not entirely clear. So while Dinos being Retro to Chickens is TRUE but IRRELEVANT, the SYNTHETIC nature of the vaccine is both true AND relevant.
The surface glycoprotein – obtained through recombinant DNA technology – says “this is what to attack”. The TWO adjuvants – including a new and powerful tree bark substance, say “respond to this stuff DRAMATICALLY”.
What is VERY interesting, is that the symptoms of this “fake disease” caused by the “fake virus”, which gives one much better immunity than even SHINGLES ITSELF (think about that), are actually both a bit like chickenpox, and a bit like shingles, only MUCH, MUCH milder than either – IN MY CASE.
I am only talking about MY CASE. More on that later.
I experienced at first a dull, mild pain, then very minor swelling, and then creeping surface redness at the injection site, in my upper arm. The redness grew within a couple of days to about 4 inches in diameter. The redness – which was HOT TO THE TOUCH – was still visible, but slowly dissipating, after the better part of a week.
The injection area – my upper arm – looked and felt, quite frankly, like I had been hit with a line drive baseball – but without any initial pain or later bruising. There was no sharp pain like a bee or wasp sting, but there was a very persistent dull pain, much like that from blunt force trauma. It was somewhat itchy, but not unbearably. The redness resembled – well – chickenpox. It was kind of bright and lobster-like, and NOT terribly rash-like. People might call it a rash, but it was not like an allergic surface rash, which thypically includes both edema and inflammation.
I also got a couple of ACTUAL CHICKEN POX – one near the injection site, and one on a random place on my belly. The redness matched the injection site, and the pustules matched my memory of chickenpox.
The most interesting symptoms, however, were those that resembled my own prior case of SHINGLES. These included both a kind of general, mild, “electric shock” sensation, over my whole upper body and head, and a stronger, cranial upper-quadrant, “electric” neuralgia in the exact area where I had debilitating pain during my first case of shingles.
However – and this is important – I did NOT have the pain associated with shingles itself.
The characteristic lesions of my shingles attacks were also NOT present.
Overall, I think this is quite possibly the STRONGEST vaccination I have ever received. The immune response is clearly BIGGER than anything I have yet experienced.
SO……
knowing what I know now, would I recommend this shot?
I would say, for anybody in my shoes – one who has NOT had significant reactions to vaccines before, but who HAS had nasty experiences with shingles – that it is a BETTER option to take this new Shingrix vaccine, than to endure the far greater risks of shingles. That is just my opinion, but it IS my opinion.
Others need to weigh the risks without any recommendation on my part.
Use what you know. Think about it. Make an informed decision.
Here are some links.
Pay SPECIAL ATTENTION to the COMMENTS on the last one, where people who had negative side effects dumped a LOT of anecdotal information. This is NOT useful statistically, but it is EXTREMELY USEFUL to know the DOWNSIDE RISKS. These bad cases will PROBABLY NOT happen to you, but they COULD. This information is VERY USEFUL in – say – planning that trip with the non-refundable tickets.
You know what I’m sayin’? Yeah. You know what I’m sayin’.
And Wolfmoon agrees…