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“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q is firing up some amazing posts on the PSYCHOLOGY of what the DEMS are doing.
Fake News Media’s attempt to truncate size of movement while ‘building up’ size of the opposition.
Inauguration Day to current, attempts to diminish and instill a ‘you are the minority’ mindset (narrative) continues.
People want to believe they are part of the bigger group (size equates to accuracy in most minds)(acceptance)(the ‘right’ side).
One of the primary purposes of POTUS holding a RALLY is to demonstrate the massive appeal, energy, and size of this movement (+ability to correct false reporting and/or highlight achievements, goals, etc.).
(Compare & Contrast) 45-RALLY vs ANY SINGLE ONE of the [D’s].
What is obvious & true?
Why does POTUS mention crowd size at each and every RALLY?
What is projected by the MSM?
LIES becomes TRUTHS.
TRUTHS become LIES.
Smoke & Mirrors
You are the MAJORITY.
People UNITED & AWAKE is their BIGGEST FEAR.
Do you think it’s a coincidence we are being attacked aggressively by some of the biggest media corporations in the world right after our return?
If we are simply a ‘conspiracy’ or ‘LARP’ or ‘some kid living in a basement’ as stated repeatedly, why do the world’s largest media Co’s continue to dedicate so much attention and time to attacking us?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to stop a LARP?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to attempt to ‘shape the mindset (narrative)’ to prevent and slow digestion of the masses?
You attack those you fear the most.
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
You are witnessing the greatest ‘coordinated’ misinformation attack (campaign) ever to be launched against the public – all in an effort to protect themselves from prosecution (public exposure) and regain power (control).
[Attempted removal of the duly elected President of the United States by illegal [manufactured] means]
They believed they could win [con] public support by controlled assets (media, tech, H-wood…).
These controlled assets set out to immediately create division through the use of a pre_designed misinformation campaign.
Groups such as ‘Antifa’ were funded and formed to prevent and/or lessen the appeal for ‘regular’ hard working Americans to gather and express non_narrative viewpoints.
Control of this ‘projected narrative’ depends primarily on their ability to ‘con’ the masses into thinking they are the majority.
The mindset of most: If the majority of people believe ‘this’, than ‘this’ must be more true than ‘that’ [CIA_CLAS 1-99_56_Human_Psych_&_Emotional_Distress_IIED].
Without public support – they are powerless.
We, the People, hold the power.
UNITED WE ARE STRONG.
— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
You are witnessing the systematic destruction of the OLD GUARD.
Q
Q Post 3411
To me, these points are key:
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
Enemy of the PEOPLE.
Q Post 3409
This tells me that we are doing the RIGHT THINGS to BREAK THE PROGRAMMING.
WE Rush in to “shape events” for ourselves
WE create our own “keywords” to understand reality
WE repeat and USE OUR OWN LANGUAGE
WE insist on THINKING and AVOID inhibitors of it (PC, silencing, etc.)
WE do not give up our right to challenge authority
WE practice and refuse to abandon LOGICAL THINKING
WE trust ourselves and NEVER STOP trusting ourselves
WE refuse to listen to the DEMOCRAT FAKE NEWS
WE remember at all times that it is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE
Now I understand why cutting the cable was so effective in stopping the mind control.
I mean – a somewhat SIMILAR thought occurred to me in the past, when we discovered through Project Veritas, that many DSA members working in our federal government were actually SABOTAGING things, and proudly admitting to it on secret camera.
It occurred to me at that time, that people belonging to parties which ADVOCATE secret sabotage of “the system”, such as the DSA, should simply not be allowed to work in government.
But NOW it occurs to me, that rather than approaching these crimes PREEMPTIVELY, which is constitutionally questionable, we COULD simply prosecute PROCESS SABOTAGE – you know – like CLOWARD-PIVEN operations – as a CRIME.
In fact, wouldn’t it be wonderful the TROLL THE MEDIA into having to COVER the idea of Cloward-Piven – something they MUST call a “conspiracy theory” – but which every American can understand – WILL UNDERSTAND – and will BELIEVE?
If you need a refresher on Cloward-Piven, OR you just want to see one of the most AMAZING predictions of our current state of affairs, then just watch THE FOLLOWING VIDEO about Cloward-Piven and OBAMA, from June of 2010, as that FIRST Tea Party election approached.
This video is, hands down, one of the most ACCURATE predictions EVER, of where we are RIGHT NOW. It is 10 minutes of your life that you will NOT REGRET having invested.
Now – I have covered Cloward-Piven before. In fact, let me provide you with a SHORT biography on the subject. Three in-depth articles I’ve done:
Right now I am researching one of the most horrifying unrevealed cases of Cloward-Piven TREASON which has yet to see the light of day. Once people see this, the jig is up for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Their utter betrayal of Americans will ASTOUND. And they are not alone. There are several other Democrat names …
I have wanted to get this article out, but I was stuck on “number 10”. Sure, I could come up with TEN. EASY. But I needed a good one for NUMBER 10. I mean, I needed a REALLY GOOD ONE. And our blessed President, Donald J. Trump, VSG, just gave it to me today. Stick …
TL;DR: If you want to end the crisis at not just OUR border, but ALL borders, don’t just fight the THEORY of Cloward and Piven – fight the PRACTICE of Chicago Marxists Coleman and Lozano. It is time to bring the TRUMP DOCTRINE of ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY to CHICAGO, and then to THE WORLD. Long Version: …
OH, I know all about Cloward-Piven. And every day I learn more about the two radicals, their CLINTON support group, and their extremely damaging ideas.
But it never occurred to me that ADMITTED SABOTAGE and ABUSE of government solutions MIGHT actually be a CRIME that we could prosecute.
So what do you think?
Assuming that you agree with the basic idea, HOW should we go about DIRECTLY CONFRONTING the insanity of Cloward-Piven?
W
What would YOUR Trump tweet about Cloward-Piven say?
Words are our bullets. Once we fire them, they stay fired.
Wolf Moon
Note that I DO NOT take down threats or “maybe threats” made against individuals. I leave everything up as EVIDENCE. Those who make such statements are welcome to clarify – the clarifications will stay up, too.
If I believe there is a chance that a person MAY be making such threats in an attempt to get this blog closed, or has been manipulated to that end, I will ban them either temporarily or permanently, in an ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I may also ban identified provocateurs as well.
I believe that the PUBLIC has a right to statements made PUBLICLY. Once a threat has been made, it is in the PUBLIC’S INTEREST (and the interest of this site) that it remain PUBLIC. I believe that the social meme of HIDING such information was slowly introduced by COMMUNISTS, and our media and law enforcement MISTAKENLY went along with it. The meme has also infected social media, after being propagated through LAWYERS.
HIDING TRUTH IS ANTI-JOURNALISM.
This is an ALINSKY TACTIC to make us FEAR THE TRUTH, and in particular to FEAR FREE SPEECH.
We cannot recover free speech without practicing it and TESTING ITS LIMITS CONSTITUTIONALLY.
ONLY DOXXING POSTS (true doxxing, not “deadnaming”, which is a form of transmania censorship) will be HIDDEN, not removed, after being recorded. All other evidence will be kept public, based on TRUE JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES, GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Also, we LOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, so DO THE MATH on whether any email address and IP information will be given upon request to RESPECTED law enforcement (meaning not that MURDERING, DISCREDITED, “STAND-DOWN” HILLARY SHERIFF IN FLORIDA, or politicized SDNY losers and haters acting in bad communist faith).
Please note that what may seem like a joke to one person may seem like a threat to others.
EXAMPLE: “milkshakes“
Conversely, well-wishes that traitors receive DUE PUNISHMENTS BY LAW are tolerated if not approved. Your words stand on their own – it is not my job to clarify, mollify, frame or explain them. It is my job to give you free speech and preserve a public record thereof.
Long story short, TL:DR, don’t make threats because they will not be taken down.
I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.
According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.
After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.
And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.
So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.
What happened can be summarized in a brief list:
Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.
Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.
We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!
Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.
This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.
Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.
This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.
They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.
What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.
They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.
Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.
We are dealing with professionals.
It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.
I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.
Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.
SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?
I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin
How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.
Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.
Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.
Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀
I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.
Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).
The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.
NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:
NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.
Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.
So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”
It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.
To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:
ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL
Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.
Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!
Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!
Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!
SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.
And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.
But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.
The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.
So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.
To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.
Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.
After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.
The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.
NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.
(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).
(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.
The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.
Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.
But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.
SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.
Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.
Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.
WE WERE WINNING.
The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.
One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.
I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?
Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.
Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.
They weren’t funny.
Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.
It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.
Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.
It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.
Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.
Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:
believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
unprovable, or even provably WRONG
“too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
seemingly designed to FOOL people
and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY
All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.
Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?
Yeah, like one even has to ask.
Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.
I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.
SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.
SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?
OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.
There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.
You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.
You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.
What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:
the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it
The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.
DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.
What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.
This is the point that pops out the most to me:
SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.
This is the beginning of understanding.
What else do we know? Keep going from there….
the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
they are definitely connected to aviation
they are probably connected to the government and/or military
they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative
Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.
I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.
Here we go. Enjoy the show.
Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.
One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.
Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.
In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.
The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?
create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.
To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.
But wait – there’s MOAR….
Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.
This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.
What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.
Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.
Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:
add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS
What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.
This is the power of disinformation.
So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.
And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.
Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.
How can I put this simply?
OK – let’s try this…
“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”
What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.
What could this be?
There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.
Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.
(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)
Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.
OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.
Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.
Now – let’s back up to REALITY.
All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.
What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.
Forty years ago, I would have been writing this as a letter to the editor of my favorite science association magazine, AFTER the president of that association would have ALREADY said something similar PUBLICLY to the President of the United States, BUT – well – times have changed, and the heads of science associations don’t say things about leftist groups that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t approve first.
So today WE THE PEOPLE talk about one of my favorite sciences – CHEMISTRY.
Let’s talk about relative dangers – what is hype and what is not hype.
Remember the “Deplor-a-Ball” after the Trump inauguration, when those DNC-Creamer-Antifa types (whoever) were going to use BUTYRIC ACID to attack the ball?
It’s time for some BRUTAL honesty for the sake of DISCERNMENT.
People on our side made a big deal about butyric acid being “corrosive” at the time, but the truth is, butyric acid is a weaker acid than acetic acid, the main stuff of VINEGAR. Pure acetic acid is not bad stuff – one could actually wash their hands with it, as long as they washed their hands thoroughly afterwards with water. Acetic acid, like butyric acid, is a WEAK ACID.
Weak acids give you TIME – maybe even INFINITE TIME – to wash them off. If they’re going into your STOMACH, where it’s already even MORE acidic, it’s not even a big deal.
That is why we put acetic acid – whoops, I mean vinegar – on our salads. We enjoy the MILD SENSATION of its WEAK ACID NATURE on our TONGUES. On our MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
Are you starting to see this?
Even when acetic acid is BAD, like when you cough a bit from inhaling some salad dressing, or when we use acetic acid to make cute little lab animals COUGH (but not too badly!) in tests of COUGH SUPPRESSION, it just ain’t that bad.
By the way, they teach this stuff in universities. Or at least, they used to.
Butyric acid, like acetic acid, simply isn’t that bad. It STINKS really, really, really badly, and THAT is what the evil Democrats were going to do – STINK UP that fancy party of uber-hip, good-to-be-bad, Trump supporters.
That’s it. It was a STINK ATTACK. But many on our side tried to make it sound worse than it was, because they could, because the LOSERS and HATERS had basically made a really dumb error in using a stinky stuff with the name ACID in it. The Democrats didn’t respect the POWER of psychology and information over actual chemistry.
Yeah, I know the feeling – the Dems who plotted that attack are indeed evil punks who deserve to go to jail – but it was still just a STINK ATTACK – not a corrosive attack. Even if Democrats had thrown that stuff on people, it would have been like throwing a mixture of RANCID BUTTER AND VINEGAR.
Yes, it probably says “corrosive” and “danger” on the label. Today, everything is OVER-LABELED, and we don’t have much DISCERNMENT of true chemical dangers. Everything is deadly in California for a reason – so that nobody has discernment. They WANT people to be like babies, utterly dependent on “experts” like me.
BUT NOW FOR SOME DISCERNMENT. Now for something discernibly different.
Fast forward to ANTIFA, and their threats to throw water balloons filled with “muriatic acid and wax” at conservatives. THAT, my friends, is a whole nuther beast. THAT is where CHEMICAL DISCERNMENT comes in.
Muriatic acid is – as you can see here – as much as 28% hydrochloric acid.
28% Hydrochloric acid is, for lack of a better term, concentrated hydrochloric acid.
People quibble over concentrations here, but it is frigging MEANINGLESS. As I will explain.
From Wikipedia:
Hydrochloric acid is produced in solutions up to 38% HCl (concentrated grade). Higher concentrations up to just over 40% are chemically possible, but the evaporation rate is then so high that storage and handling require extra precautions, such as pressurization and cooling. Bulk industrial-grade is therefore 30% to 35%, optimized to balance transport efficiency and product loss through evaporation. In the United States, solutions of between 20% and 32% are sold as muriatic acid. Solutions for household purposes in the US, mostly cleaning, are typically 10% to 12%, with strong recommendations to dilute before use. In the United Kingdom, where it is sold as “Spirits of Salt” for domestic cleaning, the potency is the same as the US industrial grade.[14] In other countries, such as Italy, hydrochloric acid for domestic or industrial cleaning is sold as “Acido Muriatico”, and its concentration ranges from 5% to 32%.
Even the toilet bowl cleaners based on HCl are shocking to me in their strength, and they are nowhere near 28% – more like 5-10%. I have ordered my wife NOT to buy those things. We had to air out the house the last time she used one. I smelled HCl everywhere and I did a MAJOR “WTF”.
I’m not saying this isn’t a damn good product. What I’m saying is that people need to be damn careful with it, and – well – my dear wife needs a more carefree product, let’s just say.
Note that the PRINCIPLE here is the same as what ANTIFA is doing with added “wax”. The “gel” is a way to make it STICK. They’re just talking about even stronger acids.
Check out the warnings on this gelled 5-10% acid. Seriously. READ THEM.
Trust me, these differences in high (>5%) concentrations only mean a few seconds MORE or LESS before it does the SAME NASTY STUFF TO YOUR BODY. These are all STRONG CONCENTRATIONS OF THE SAME ACID – a substance known as hydrogen chloride.
If we are brutally honest, then the reason that they CALL the commercial, industrial-grade stuff “muriatic acid” – an older name that NOBODY uses in the laboratory any more – is simply because it DOESN’T SOUND AS BAD.
Oh, they’ll give you some industry jargon history blah-blah-blah excuse, and technically it will be true, but FUCKIN’ A THIS SHIT IS JUST CONCENTRATED HYDROCHLORIC ACID.
AND CON HCL IS BAD SHIT.
I know this sounds harsh, but I personally think that police need to SHOOT anybody throwing balloons, once strong acid has been identified. They need to END THE THROWING IMMEDIATELY.
Here is why I feel this way.
I have DEALT with both butyric acid and muriatic/hydrochloric/whatever acid. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Hydrochloric is one of the ones they WARN PEOPLE ABOUT in the lab. Nobody warns you about butyric acid, even if you can find a bottle.
In contrast, chemistry students in laboratory are going to use concentrated HCl a LOT, and they need to respect it. Nothing will FREAK OUT a chemistry department head faster than hearing that some freshman spilled concentrated hydrochloric acid all over themselves.
The first thing that will be asked is HOW FAST the stuff was washed off. SECONDS COUNT.
Imagine a pint of the stuff in THE FACE.
Hydrochloric acid can blind, or if inhaled deeply as a liquid, mist, or concentrated vapors, KILL. A strike in the face, like Andy Ngo of Quillette got with the concrete “milkshake”, would likely blind or kill him, if it was con HCl instead of concrete.
He would have been in WAY worse shape than what you see below.
Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv
— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@HarmeetKDhillon) June 30, 2019
That, my friends, is the result of NORMAL weaponry. ROCKS, basically.
HCl in the hands of ANTIFA is a CHEMICAL WEAPON.
When we are in the laboratory, we ventilate butyric acid for STENCH, but we ventilate hydrochloric acid for DANGER.
Inhale a little bit of water, and you are on the ground coughing. Inhale concentrated hydrochloric acid, and your lungs are burned from the inside.
Are you starting to see why I am basically thinking the feds need to send in the troops and restore order to the whole bloody left coast? This stuff is ridiculous. This isn’t America. This is the frigging Russian Revolution.
By IDIOTS who scream about RUSSIA? Seriously?
It’s literally INSANE.
I think I’ve gotten every kind of concentrated acid on me. Every one of the “strong acids” is horrible in its own way. Sulfuric burns through clothing and skin, but it’s slow. Nitric is faster and oxidizing and does interesting things to clothing, but it’s not super-volatile. You can get a fuming version of either sulfuric or nitric acid. Those are a bit nastier. Nice, fresh, highly concentrated hydrochloric acid fumes on its own, just a bit, and the fumes have a very seductively pure but deadly look, kinda like the railroad crash above. Hydrochloric is the most like a chemical weapon. It’s volatile, searing, fast, and strong.
The idea that these ANTIFA people want to make it even worse – more like napalm on human skin by adding the wax – that is just sick. It’s like our “yippies” went from protesting ABOUT napalm to MAKING IT.
I’m pretty sure that ANTIFA is Robert Creamer’s work, because he said he likes to use mental patients, and these people sure seem like mental patients to me. They are – quite literally – criminally insane, thanks to PC and antisocial socialist brainwashing.
Antifa has gone too far with hydrochloric acid. In my opinion the plotters need to be arrested now, or the police need to use DEADLY FORCE once these people start throwing concentrated strong acid.
Have we ever had people like this in America before? Certainly not that I can remember. This is UNAMERICAN. What is WRONG with Oregon? What is WRONG with their governor? What is WRONG with Portland? What is WRONG with their mayor?
Are they taking LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE – a.k.a. LSD – a.k.a. “acid”? (Which is not even an “acid” at all, by the way.)
Or does PC actually have the power to make people mentally unbalanced?
Whatever is happening, Q is right. These people are SICK.
This FEAR NO EVIL FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what do we want to be able to tell our VSG?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
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If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q posted again, according to a reliable pattern (see if you see the same one I am seeing).
This is big. THIS is the main message, IMO. It is PSYCHOLOGICAL. It is IMMINENT. This is not “get ready” – you should have prepared ALREADY. This is BE READY.
I know I recycled an old “preparation” meme for the header, but that’s the one where, when it originally played, you should have “gotten ready”.
Yeah, there is likely time to fill the tanks and hit the grocery store, but BIG PREP should have been done by now.
Note that Q’s post is very subtle, almost BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, TIC, TOC, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN in a kind of “don’t pay attention to the person who has said all this stuff before” way.
You know what I’m sayin’? Good. “Pay attention to this one” is where I’m putting MY CHIPS.
Future comms, baby! Why? Because things are GOING DYNAMIC very soon. All that stuff Q talked about, about comms being shut down, messed with, and otherwise under attack – this is going to happen. We are going to have to GET DYNAMIC and FIGHT BACK.
HELL – it’s happening ALREADY! Just think about it. The Cabal tried to ratchet it up slowly, but it’s obvious that they’ve been turning the screws on us.
They are OPENLY MOVING AGAINST FREE SPEECH NOW. The FIRST AMENDMENT.
You see all this shit coming out now about what Silicon Valley was doing? Altering our fucking search results for POLITICAL CONTENT back to WELL before the 2016 election? Meddling on a scale that DWARFS what they even ALLEGE that Russia did!
DO YOU KNOW what this means? This means that “WE HAVE IT ALL” was watching this shit IN PROGRESS. This “breaking news” of MASSIVE ELECTION MEDDLING by Silicon Valley was KNOWN. “We have it all” had it all, brothers and sisters. They KNEW what kind of treason was being pulled. These LEFT TECH fuckers thought they were getting away with it.
I don’t see these progzi turds in Silicon Valley giving up. I don’t see them backing down. I see them having to be DRAGGED OUT IN CUFFS.
This WE WILL WIN AND WE WILL KEEP WINNING WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
And a great thing that KMAG ain’t GAFA!!!
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what do we want to be able to tell our VSG?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Tonight’s message is FIRST THE BAD, THEN THE GOOD.
The BAD:
Apple just threatened Parler, telling Parler CEO John Matze that Parler had to censor “certain individuals” or be banned from the app store.
Do the math. They are talking about Alex Jones and Laura Loomer. AMONG OTHERS.
I did not react “nicely” to this.
If you are not SERIOUSLY considering ditching your @Apple products, you should. APPLE wanted @parler_app to BAN certain individuals.
This is NAZI behavior. This is SOVIET behavior. SURVIVORS told me about this stuff.
I’m not quite sure how this changes my plans, because I have numerous contingency plans for our network, and they orbit fairly close to Gab and Epik in places. But NOW….
Well – CRISIS may have become OPPORTUNITY.
I just need to think about it. We need to SEE what becomes of Gab with this change.
This FAKEBOOK FALLS FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA KAG! world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Always be able to tell our VSG this POWER STATEMENT in TRUTH:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
If the tech giants want to censor political speech & advance a political viewpoint, fine. But then they should be treated like any other publisher
We need to move the #Section230 debate into the 21st century. Question is no longer how to encourage an infant industry. Question is whether the industry’s biggest, monopoly platforms can use 230 to stifle competition, censor speech, and invade privacy
This guy totally gets it. Silicon Valley is now a COMMUNIST THUG OPERATION, operating out of ENEMY TERRITORY in CHINA-OCCUPIED CALIFORNIA.
There was a point in time when people realized we needed to go after Section 230. I remember posting quite a bit about it. THAT was when we finally had some kind of idea WHERE to attack the beast. But BEFORE THAT, we merely recognized that something was WRONG with Silicon Valley, and they would have to be ORDERED not to censor – possibly even BROKEN UP.
Steve Bannon was the first on populism’s side to prominently suggest this. What was NOT obvious THEN, but is extremely obvious NOW, is that the left’s MASSIVE attacks against Steve Bannon began IMMEDIATELY AFTER he began talking “anti-trust” against Silicon Valley.
Now – after talking to Tonawanda today, I realize COMPLETELY how socialism in general, and Silicon Valley in particular, snuff out ideas that they don’t like – by a very stealthy campaign to keep the discussion level of that item below some critical value that THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO – now that I understand how Google and YouTube are actually run by RED DIAPER SOCIALIST THUGS – certain things make sense – that these organizations might “farm out” the silencing of viewpoints they don’t particularly want to reach whatever critical value they must not reach. And we all know that OUTSOURCING is actually a form of denial of “how it got done”. When “methods” have to be used – why – just outsource! Outsourcing – oddly enough – turns out to be a form of the MAMET PRINCIPLE – “pretending not to know”.
On July 30, 2017, I made the unknowingly risky decision to publish a piece SUPPORTING Steve Bannon’s “radical” and “unthinkable” idea of reining in Silicon Valley censorship. It was based on the idea that SOME kind of “information anti-trust” was fully in line with Trump’s form of populism – that this was almost DESTINY for the MAGA movement.
It was NOT HARD for me to figure out that, after ALL the left-provoking things I’ve risked over the Obama years, the FIRST EVER STAKING OUT of my lowly abode JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED to that little article, and the surprisingly warm reception it got. (Don’t trust the numbers on Twitter – more on that later.)
The intimidation actually got way worse, as in “classic thug type”, but there is no way that I, personally, can positively connect it to Silicon Valley. But I simply assume that the threat came from there. I stepped on SOMEBODY’S hedge fund.
I should note that whatever I or others did in response, it ended the problem. For a while.
Great Awakening, baby. Think they don’t use violence? Don’t think they use threats? Think again. The bogus staged Charlottesville incident (August 11-12) and the Las Vegas Massacre (October 1) followed shortly after this.
Followed – thankfully – by the firing of Treasonous McCabe and the deployment of QAnon, due to – in my opinion – militarily significant actions by the communists in conjunction with a politically motivated COUP ATTEMPT using the FBI and the Soviet American media.
Vegas was the last straw for “puttin’ up with the coup”. And I’m very glad people did what was needed after that, to end that bullshit.
Go on from there, to see how I was “awakened” to censorship at Twitter. This is actually a lot of fun to read, because in it, I am SPECULATING WILDLY about all sorts of stuff that we now know was not just true, but RIDICULOUSLY TRUE. Oh, man, that was fun.
From there, I eventually got on the “230” bus, almost a year later. Here is a nice thread:
The way to end social media censorship is to modify 47 U.S. Code § 230 (c) (1) (A) which is used to censor us.
The mod is that all PROVIDERS between any creator and any user must provide legal speech with an uninfringed FREE SPEECH PATH between the two.https://t.co/wB9XWRXN9V
Clearly, BANNON’S idea of actually CHALLENGING Silcon Valley took hold. Red Diaper Sergey and Google pulled back from China to Communist California, and – well – now we can see that….
IT TAKES A VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS ON THE INTERNET TO SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY OTHER VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS IN REAL LIFE.
Heck – I may just have a Sam Adams.
And ponder the beauty of my new favorite composite number, 230.
I have not read this post AT ALL. And I’m not going to read it. I’m going to publish it, and THEN READ IT.
WHY AM I DOING THIS, YOU MIGHT ASK.
It is very simple. I support free speech, and I am especially concerned about CENSORSHIP of viewpoints on vaccination. I am personally pro-vaccination, but I think that the anti-vaxxers have found a WEALTH of valid concerns that need to be addressed by a combination of objective and imaginative investigation, honest admission, political enlightenment, and consumer CHOICE.
The COMMUNISTS in America are NOT doing it right. The real question is WHY NOT?
Vaccines are a PRODUCT – not a CHEMICAL TATTOO that the state has a right to force upon our bodies. GET REAL. Vaccines need the FREE MARKET to prove their worth – not socialist coddling of substandard products to be forced upon us like poisonous Chinese dog treats.
If you are old enough to remember the vaccine SANITY that we had in America before the sabotage presidency of crypto-socialist BILL CLINTON and his horrible co-President wife Hillary Clinton, of WACO fame, then you realize that all of this CRAP about vaccines is utterly unnecessary.
Let us just GO BACK TO WHAT WORKED BEFORE COMMUNISM.
M-KAY?
NOW – I believe that Adam Schiff is starting a “war on anti-vaxxers” in preparation to “war on Trump’s base”. I will be posting more about this soon. But before that, I’m going to let some FREE SPEECH about vaccination happen HERE AND NOW.
Enjoy!
-WOLF MOON
Moar AND Logic — Vaccines
by Gail Combs
GENERAL COMMENT
Perhaps the hardest concept for Americans to learn is Our Ruling Class views us with contempt. They do not hate us. To hate you have to view a person as an equal. The Ruling Class does not consider us equals, some do not even consider us ‘human’!!! We are just ‘Human Resources’ for them to use as they please. Once you realize they view us as free range slaves or cattle (chattel) their inhumane treatment of us becomes comprehensible and this plays into their views on vaccination. As long as THEY make money and the ‘Human Resource’ losses are ‘acceptable’ they don’t care if we are injured or die.
This is the best overall explanation I have seen of what we face in America today:
“…No prominent Republican challenged the ruling class’s continued claim of superior insight, nor its denigration of the American people as irritable children who must learn their place. The Republican Party did not disparage the ruling class, because most of its officials are or would like to be part of it.
Never has there been so little diversity within America’s upper crust. Always, in America as elsewhere, some people have been wealthier and more powerful than others. But until our own time America’s upper crust was a mixture of people who had gained prominence in a variety of ways, who drew their money and status from different sources and were not predictably of one mind on any given matter….
Today’s ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters — speaking the “in” language — serves as a badge of identity….
The two classes have less in common culturally, dislike each other more, and embody ways of life more different from one another than did the 19th century’s Northerners and Southerners — nearly all of whom, as Lincoln reminded them, “prayed to the same God.” By contrast, while most Americans pray to the God “who created and doth sustain us,” our ruling class prays to itself as “saviors of the planet” and improvers of humanity. Our classes’ clash is over “whose country” America is, over what way of life will prevail, over who is to defer to whom about what….”
We have already noted the consolidation of the trans-national corporations.
Later in the year, on 08/26/2016 PeterStrzok texted “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…” Page replys “Yep….”
Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren certainly agrees and takes it a step further. He thinks it takes ” essential early socializing experiences”aka brainwashing to “ultimately develop into a human being.” GEE, does that mean IF you do not have the CORRECT ‘ socializing experiences’ you are not human?
Holdren, wrote on page 235 in “Human Ecology,” (1973) co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich.
The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,”
Michaelh made a comment on June 12, 2019 at 02:22 The interesting part of the comment is this:
….He told the other doctor he could solve his problem, but the other doc was skeptical. Later he saw the woman in question and she went on at length about the dangers of vaccines and all the information she had gathered online, listening to her intently and patiently the whole time. At the end of it he asked a simple question, “Have you considered whether the anti-vax information you have is a Chinese and Russian disinformation campaign designed to weaken the United States’ populace?” She experienced a mind-blown moment. He said after that she came with all of her children ever single time right on the vax schedule….
Please note this doctor DID NOT ADDRESS the core problem — the perceived dangers of vaccines — Instead he substituted one FEAR for another FEAR.
So let’s back-up and ask the questions that doctor did not address. WHY would the woman have:
#1. Distrust in the US government
#2. Distrust in the pharmaceutical companies
#3. Does her fear have a solid foundation?
Unfortunately, as we have seen over the last seven decades, the US government IS the Enemy of the American People. (see Codevilla’s article linked above) So the woman’s ‘Fear’ of the intentions of the US Government has a solid foundation. She can not trust that the government has HER best interests and NOT the best interests of the vaccine manufactures at heart when decisions are made.
….Results Fifty-seven published clinical trials were identified for which an FDA inspection of a trial site had found significant evidence of 1 or more of the following problems: falsification or submission of false information, 22 trials (39%); problems with adverse events reporting, 14 trials (25%); protocol violations, 42 trials (74%); inadequate or inaccurate recordkeeping, 35 trials (61%); failure to protect the safety of patients and/or issues with oversight or informed consent, 30 trials (53%); and violations not otherwise categorized, 20 trials (35%). Only 3 of the 78 publications (4%) that resulted from trials in which the FDA found significant violations mentioned the objectionable conditions or practices found during the inspection. No corrections, retractions, expressions of concern, or other comments acknowledging the key issues identified by the inspection were subsequently published.
Conclusions and Relevance When the FDA finds significant departures from good clinical practice, those findings are seldom reflected in the peer-reviewed literature, even when there is evidence of data fabrication or other forms of research misconduct….
The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses….
On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences….
I remember when this information hit the news and I was appalled. I have worked as a QC Engineer in Drug manufacture. There is NO WAY IN HADES this should have happened. WHY? Because you LABEL EVERYTHING and it is double signed off when raw materials are withdrawn from the warehouse by manufacturing to PREVENT this type of mistake.
“Biochemist Brian Hooker, scientific advisor to A Shot of Truth, reveals CDC knew of risks for over a decade.”
February 19, 2014
For nearly ten years, Brian Hooker has been requesting documents that are kept under tight wraps by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). His more than 100 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests have resulted in copious evidence that the vaccine preservative Thimerosal, which is still used in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and infants, can cause autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders.
Dr. Hooker, a PhD scientist, worked with two members of Congress to craft the letter to the CDC that recently resulted in his obtaining long-awaited data from the CDC, the significance of which is historic. According to Hooker, the data on over 400,000 infants born between 1991 and 1997, which was analyzed by CDC epidemiologist Thomas Verstraeten, MD, “proves unequivocally that in 2000, CDC officials were informed internally of the very high risk of autism, non-organic sleep disorder and speech disorder associated with Thimerosal exposure.”….
…“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” —(Marcia Angell, MD, “Drug Companies and Doctors: A story of Corruption.” NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.)
Here is another quote of a similar nature, also published in the NY Review of Books (May 12, 2001, Helen Epstein, “Flu Warning: Beware of Drug Companies”):
“Six years ago, John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, found that nearly half of published articles in scientific journals contained findings that were false.”…
So I hope these articles establish the fact this woman had a solid foundation for her concerns and the doctor’s default to ‘BLAME IT ON RUSSIA’ would be funny if it was not so serious.
Do you really think these Mega-corporations, who PAY the doctors, ACTUALLY CARE if a certain percentage of children are crippled or die from their vaccines? Don’t you think the Elite would LIKE to see American girls made sterile and more people on the government dole to aid the Cloward–Piven strategy?
What the Mega-corporations care about is MONEY and they have that all fixed up.
….No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, solely due to the manufacturer’s failure to provide direct warnings to the injured party (or the injured party’s legal representative) of the potential dangers resulting from the administration of the vaccine manufactured by the manufacturer….
The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be given to the public before full data on its safety and effectiveness become available, doctors confirmed yesterday…..But, unlike seasonal flu vaccine, the pandemic version will be spread over two doses in a higher quantity, and one brand is expected to contain a chemical additive to make it go further, potentially increasing the risk of side-effects.http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/safety-questions-over-swine-flu-jab-1751547.html
“On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by governmentwhen companies could have made a safer vaccine…. From now on, drug companies selling vaccines in America will not be held accountable… The only difference is that three decades ago, government officials were ordering doctors to give children 23 doses of 7 vaccines and, today, that direct order is up to 70 doses of 16 vaccines.”NVIC link
[Wolfie can you include a screen shot of the chart for Birth to 15 Months please?]
Here you go!
Wolf
First I am NOT a doctor and I do not have human kids. Mine are goats kids and lambs. However we are all mammals so at least some information applies across species.
Starting with newborns: Colostrum definition: A sticky white or yellow fluid secreted by the mammary glands after giving birth, rich in antibodies. The antibodies absorbed by the newborn protect against systemic invasion by pathogens while antibodies that are not absorbed play an important role in protection against intestinal disease.
The small intestine is lined with immature cells which are capable of absorbing macromolecules. Immunoglobulins ( antibodies) can not transmission across the placenta of the mother to the fetus. Instead the Immunoglobulins in the Colostrum is absorbed in the small intestine and thereafter transported to the blood. “The absorption of immunoglobulins has dropped to a relatively low level after 24-36 hours.” — The importance of colostral immunoglobulins and their absorption from the intestine of the newborn animalsfrom the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine
Vaccination: Kid goats that had passive immunity from immunized dams, don’t get their CD/T vaccination until 8 weeks and again at 11-12 weeks. My vet doesn’t recommend doing it earlier. HOWEVER If the kid didn’t receive its mom’s colostrum or if the doe didn’t get vaccination a month or so before birth, you should vaccinate the kid at the age of 1 to 3 weeks and again three to four weeks later. (And PRAY)
Sheep 201: Flock vaccinations written by Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist at the University of Maryland’s Western Maryland Research & Education Center in Keedysville, Maryland.
… Passive immunity Vaccines are not very successful in young lambs, 1-2 months of age. For this reason, vaccination strategies recommend vaccinating pregant ewe to confer passive immunity to the lambs through the colostrum (dam’s first milk). Ewes should be vaccinated with the CDT toxoid approximately 4 weeks prior to lambing. Ewes lambing for the first time will need to be vaccinated twice in late pregnancy, four weeks apart. Maternal antibodies will protect lambs for six to eight weeks so long as lambs consumed adequate amounts of colostrum. It is recommended that a lamb consume 10 percent of its body weight in colostrum.
Lambs Lambs should receive their first clostridal vaccination when they are approximately 6 to 8 weeks of age, followed by a booster 4 weeks later. If pastured animals are later brought into confinement or dry lot for concentrate feeding, a third vaccination should be given. Some experts recommended giving artifically-reared lambs multiple vaccinations.
Lambs whose dams were not vaccinated for C and D can be vaccinated with some success at two to three days of age and again in two weeks. However, later vaccinations will likely be more effective, as colostral antibodies usually interfere with vaccinations at very young ages. The lamb’s immature immune system may also not be able to respond to vaccination at such a young age.
Lambs and goats are usually weaned at 2 to 3 months, horses at 4 to 6 months. Lambs and goats live to mid teens, horses into there 20s and 30s. Human babies are weaned naturally sometime between 2 and 4 years of age. Humans live into their 70s and 80s. Animals are usually vaccinated AFTER they are weaned!
Last recommendation: ” Each producer must weights the pros and cons of vaccinating for a specific disease. If the cost of vaccination exceeds the expected losses, then vaccination is probably not cost-effective….The risk of a diseases outbreak should be the criteria that is used to determine the need for vaccination.” — Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist Translation: Check with your vet/ vet school on what diseases are around your area and ALWAYS limit the exposure of your animals. If you show have separate quarantine areas for show animals also for animals you are newly introducing to the farm. …
What is the take home from all of this? 1. QUARRANTINE IMMIGRANTS don’t bring the disease into the country in the first place. Since our traitorous government refuses to do this, do as much as you can to limit your exposure and your children’s exposure especially for the very young. (I hate seeing infants at a daycare as I did yesterday.)
2. MOM should receive the vaccinations not the New Born.
3. MOM should breast feed during the first few days to pass immunity to her baby even if she does not plan to continue breastfeeding. Try to stay home with your infant or use a private individual (like grand parent) for your very young baby instead of a commercial daycare. This limits disease exposure and thus need for very early vaccination.
4. Infant vaccination is a poor second for nature’s Colostrum and very early vaccination is needed only if Mom has not past immunity on to the infant via Colostrum AND can not manage quarantine conditions. (Why my bottle lambs were in the kitchen and are even now in a quarantined area instead of with the sheep.)
I have also been warned by my vet that the vaccines for multiple diseases are not a smart idea. Spacing the vaccinations of individual diseases works MUCH better.
PDJT had strong opinions on timing of vax shots for his children, just as these parents did.
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There you have it. Please feel free to comment in any way you see fit. WE – unlike everybody else in socialist media – have free speech. Moreover, it is not MY JOB to determine what is “misinformation”. That is YOUR JOB.
W
FREE AS IN THE FREE FALL OF THE SOCIALIST MEDIA AND FAKE NEWS INTO A TRAP OF THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION
This FREE MARKET SOCIAL MEDIA FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP!
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
And you may STILL be able to sign his birthday card!
This video (H/T duchess01) of Parler CEO John Matze talking with The Epoch Times is truly enlightening.
You will feel very good about the future of Parler as a Twitter replacement after you see this video. There is a SOUND commitment on Matze’s part to shunning SOCIALIST solutions and instead embracing FREE MARKET solutions. Conservatives, libertarians, and classic liberals will all find comfort in Matze’s thinking.
Commies – not so much.
We have been asking the question – what should we call media other than “socialist media”? Matze has the answer:
FREE MARKET SOCIAL MEDIA
One of the really amazing moments here is the frank discussion of FAKE NAZIS (actually fake white supremacists, but we’re talking about the same people). Nobody EVER addresses these leftist shills – until now. And speaking of leftist attack dogs, their number one target, Candace Owens is mentioned as well.
Anyway, please enjoy this video!
I will be putting out a couple of articles soon – my long-promised censorship piece, and also one reporting on a fascinating RABBITHOLE that I went down today, and came back with ALTERED HISTORY.
