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This FEARLESS FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
This open thread has TWO additional purposes.
FIRST, it is going to be a TEASER for an article on “GuginoGate” – the latter being the FAKE NEWS SCANDAL underlying Trump’s tweet which is cited above.
Let’s look at that more closely…..
Yeah, let’s watch how he holds position on that last swipe, even after the cop shoves him away – WHICH I CONTEND WAS THE DESIRED RESPONSE BY THE POLICE TO SET UP WHAT FOLLOWS!!!!!…..
YUP – the DEFINITIVE ARTICLE on GUGINOGATE is coming!
But now I would like to REMIND everybody about one possible reason WHY Adam Schiff – serial liar and hoaxer – is so utterly HUNG UP on a really stupid idea that might be called “VACCINES CAN DO NO WRONG” – an utterly untenable scientific position, despite all the GOOD that smart, honest, proven and well-tested vaccines – like drugs – have to offer.
Adam Schiff – very wrongly – believes that any position other than “vaccines can do no wrong” is “misinformation“.
HORSEFEATHERS!!!
One of the PROOFS that vaccines can indeed “do harm” is the fact that vaccine candidates are FAILED all the time for such harm.
ANOTHER such proof is that THIS HARM is exactly the principle on which STERILITY VACCINES are based.
Sterility vaccines (or sterilization vaccines – take your pick) are DESIGNED to cause very specific harm that will render people STERILE without otherwise harming them.
It is important to know that significant progress has been made on these things.
First, go HERE to listen to a whistleblower’s report on that progress:
Take it with a few grains of salt, but it still sounds both tenable and authentic to me.
NOW – it BOTHERS people – and I’m one of them – that SCIENCE has been doing a lot of lying lately, and has really earned the name FAKE SCIENCE. It’s not like we can trust everybody in science.
So – some people think the reason nobody is TALKING about sterilization vaccines, but great progress is being made on them, is that EUGENICISTS – like HITLER – are rearing their ugly heads again, and that THEY are the ones pushing SECRET RESEARCH on sterility vaccines.
I mean – let’s face it. Hitler would have MUCH preferred a sterilization vaccine to Zyklon B as a means to “solve the Jewish problem”.
SO, go HERE for Natural News to offer THEIR theory on where this is going.
NOW – I don’t know if Mike is right about the eugenicists plotting to kill blacks, but Margaret Sanger and the Eugenics movement did indeed want to reduce the population of black people – that is very well documented.
And a eugenicist pretty much started World War II, if I recall.
And eugenicists are probably still around, although I think they keep a pretty low profile. But they certainly seem plausible. Enough that people believe science fiction involving such things is “highly likely to happen”.
But killing blacks?
Frankly, if CHINA were driving “sterilization wars”, I would think WHITES would be their primary target, but whatever.
Mike Adams’ view of COVID-19 actually sounds very well-informed to me. Not a lot of speculation there. That’s good. But the bottom line is that the real issue isn’t whether Mike Adams is credible. The real issue is that mainstream science and medicine, after all the literally murderous hate and trickery dropped on hydroxychloroquine from their ranks, are NOT CREDIBLE.
NOTE: This is an old, unfinished article from LAST SUMMER, which dug into some troubling aspects of the origins of ANTIFA in America, and particularly the roots in academia. It is FAR from complete, and I have no desire to finish it, but I decided to publish what is there, RIGHT NOW, as ANTIFA is being declared a terrorist organization, because I believe researchers looking into ANTIFA will benefit.
ANTIFA is being HELPED by academics, and those incubator institutions and “bad shepherd” academics need to answer for what they created. THIS will help us return freedom of thought to universities, IMO, because the radical student footsoldiers of uniform leftist thought and mind control will lose their backing by Marxist and crypto-Marxist professors and administrators.
Some editorial comments are added in bold.
“This morning’s attack…was a horrific act of violence that has shaken us all.”
Whether one considers my neologism of “STANTIFA” to come from ANTIFA-encouraging, “Stef”-Halper-producing, “Two-Door”-Ford-backing STANFORD UNIVERSITY, or the notorious and frankly dubious ANTIFA-defending professor STANISLAV VYSOTSKY – who may have actually GIVEN BIRTH to Portland ANTIFA – it is all about what falls out of the following video.
EDIT: A video which was apparently REMOVED by ANTIFA-backing YouTube Menshevik Susan Wojcicki and her clan of crypto-radical enablers of the radical left.
Gabriel Nadales: I’m a former Antifa member and enough is enough — Antifa must be stopped
https://youtu.be/ojoOlwmKTGc
If you don’t have time for the video, consider this summary from the video’s page on YouTube.
EDIT: Fortunately, I kept this transcript:
The video showing Quillette reporter Andy Ngo being savagely attacked by Antifa at a demonstration in Portland, Oregon, last weekend has rocked the nation. The footage of masked thugs beating him with blunt objects and throwing “milkshakes” allegedly filled with quick-drying cement is shocking to many. But I’m not surprised by this horrific behavior—I was once behind the mask.
PORTLAND POLICE SEEK OTHERS TAKING PART IN VIOLENT ANTIFA ASSAULTS, AS MORE DETAILS OF ATTACKS REVEALED
I first became involved in Antifa in 2010 while I was in high school, and over the course of two years I participated in several demonstrations throughout Southern California. Although I never hurt anyone, I yelled obscenities, I destroyed property and I am ashamed of my actions. While I walked away from the movement over seven years ago, I have been following its growth and today’s Antifa members are far more brutal, thuggish and bold than anything I experienced. How did it get to this?
Antifa has been encouraged and allowed to thrive on our college and university campuses. Police are often forced to work with their hands behind their backs, as we saw from the footage of Ngo’s attack, and administrators have failed to hold those who commit acts of violence and intimidation accountable. We are now seeing it spill over into our communities. Antifa will only grow more aggressive if it is not stopped, and we must target it where is has found fertile ground—our college and university campuses. The seeds of this violence have been planted and are encouraged by leftist professors in the classroom.
Over the last few years, there has been a growing trend of extremist professors advocating for violence and intimidation to force leftist ideology onto society. Examples can be found from coast-to-coast:
— Mark Bray, a visiting scholar at Dartmouth College, is a staunch defendant of Antifa’s use of violence and even wrote “Anti-Fa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook,” in which he claims that ‘violence is a “legitimate response” to groups with incendiary views.’
— Then there is Assistant Professor Stanislav Vysotsky at University of Wisconsin – Whitewater who writes in an op-ed that: “On America’s Streets, Antifa’s Militant Anti-fascism Isn’t Terrorism – It’s Self-defense.”
— Professors at Purdue and Stanford Universities, have worked to create a “Campus Antifascist Network” (CAN) to bring together “anyone committed to fighting fascism.”
— Unsurprisingly, students are following the guidance of their teachers. Just a few weeks ago, Campus Reform reported that the Autonomous Student Network at the University of Texas Austin threatened to doxx incoming first-year students if they join Young Conservatives of Texas or Turning Point USA chapters.
Make no mistake, Antifa’s violence is being fueled by professors in the classroom who incite their students to enact political violence against others. That is not preparing the next generation of leaders, it’s preparing the next generation of thugs. Universities ca……
Gabriel Nadales, alleged former ANTIFA member
There is more in the video, and I encourage you to watch and read it (the text appears as captions IN the video).
The above video finally prompted me to make this post, rather than just make comments to the effect of what you are about to read, as I have been doing.
I have been sitting on some explosive research which – in my opinion – backs up what this person is saying – that university “professors” are the ones who are actually behind ANTIFA. In fact, I believe there is circumstantial evidence that Portland ANTIFA was actually ginned up by the very same communists who are pushing the propaganda meme of:
“Trump supporter” equals
“white & nationalist” equals
“white nationalist” equals
“white supremacist
It’s a rather cunning meme, and to see this meme being PUSHED into the American law enforcement community by an ALLEGED CRIMINOLOGIST is – quite frankly – shocking.
Speaking of law enforcement, there is ANOTHER THING which pushed me to make this post – today’s news about an ANTIFA fire-bomber “martyring” himself at an ICE facility, and now being LAUDED by ANTIFA THUGS.
[EDIT: Tweet gone but residue stuck in WordPress – saving as an image in case the above remainder is lost.]
There is a lot of breaking news about Willem van Spronsen, and before I get on with this, I call on ALL HONEST RESEARCHERS to begin looking for connections of him to any of the following:
Russian expats and descendants in Washington State
Known communists or “red diaper” families
European ANTIFA and other global anarchists
Portland ANTIFA
Stanislav Vysotsky or his various contacts in ANTIFA or academia
Professors, grad students, and other potential Seattle-area “ANTIFA creators” starting in 2006 – particularly in 2007-2010 – until the present time
“Friends” who encouraged van Spronsen’s martyrdom complex, possibly by regular phone calls of consistent length
You will understand WHY I am suggesting these things, by the END of this post.
The fact that ANTIFA is now clearly being ginned up to “defend open borders” – the same open borders that are being rushed by RUSSIA-CHINA-CUBA-VENEZUELA-backed migrants – tells me that this is INTERNATIONAL – that ANTIFA in America has OVERSEAS ORIGINS.
Mandy and I have discussed the appearance of ANTIFA in America, and I expounded on two theories of it – (1) that the German, Stalinist, KPD-connected ANTIFA of the 1930’s never really went away, and (2) that it died out after World War II, and was ginned up anew in the United States. In that discussion, I postulated that European anarchists may have provided some form of continuity and encouragement to the early movement in America. Indeed, one frequently sees pictures of VIOLENT EUROPEAN ANTIFA being posted either mistakenly, or as a kind of disinformation, in discussions of American ANTIFA.
If that sub-theory of European ANTIFA providing a bridge is correct, then violent ANTIFA activist Willem van Spronsen seems like a potential fit.
AND – if Willem van Spronsen was a LINK between Soviet / Communist backers of ANTIFA and its origins in the United States – as in maybe Willem van Spronsen was a WITNESS or POTENTIAL WITNESS – well, sure would be convenient for those backers if he DIED. Right? And maybe was a martyr for the cause at the same time?
You starting to see this?
So let’s begin. The discussion will take two parts. The first part centers on ANTIFA violence in general, and Willem van Spronsen in particular. The second part concerns Portland ANTIFA, its origins, and its close relationship with Stanislav Vysotsky.
Because this article – excellent journalism, I might add – received IMMEDIATE push-back from ANTIFA and allied socialist forces, when it appeared, I am frankly surprised it’s still around. Since it will very likely be pulled down soon by leftists, once I expose it, I have made sure to locate an archived copy:
While this article provides an EXCELLENT window into ANTIFA and its enemies in late 2009, the real importance, is that it demonstrates how closely current ANTIFA defender Stanislav Vysotsky was working with the group when it was still quite young:
Rose City Antifa was founded in 2007, when anti-racists organized to shut down a meeting of the neo-Nazi Hammerskin Nation set for the Sherwood Elks Lodge (see “Skin Cancer,” WW, Oct. 3, 2007). The group posts cards and fliers at the Red Black Cafe, the Black Rose Collective Bookstore and other places where anarchists and the far-left gather, but its total membership is unknown.
On Saturday, Sept. 19, the group set up a recruitment table at a punk concert in North Portland benefiting the volunteer group Portland Books to Prisoners. Stanislav Vysotsky, a Willamette University sociology professor who studies anti-racist groups, was at the table laying out anti-fascist literature next to a sign that said “Rose City Antifa.”
Vysotsky denied he’s a member of the group. But he defended its tactics in an interview with WW.
Vysotsky says publicly outing one’s enemies—including publishing their home addresses and pressuring their employers to fire them—is a widely accepted practice by progressive social movements. (It’s also used by the right wing, which publishes addresses of abortion doctors on far-right websites.)
“The strategy is to shut them down.” Vysotsky says. “Someone can’t be active if they are out looking for a job, and homes are their base of operation. If you put yourself in the shoes of a movement member, there is very much a logic to this.”
My impression, reading this article, is that it was simply good, balanced, old-school journalism, digging for small facts and larger issues on both sides of the natural controversy of the story.
And – clearly – that was going to get it in trouble.
The Willamette Weekly article, published on September 22, 2009, received a published response, two days later, on September 24.
I simply let these articles stand for themselves. It is obvious that the reporter of the first article, at the time of the reporting AND the writing, was at least motivated to ASK if Stanislav Vysotsky was in fact a member of Rose City ANTIFA, taking note of (and clearly refusing to spike) the fact that Vysotsky was seeming to help the group hand out flyers.
Let the facts speak for themselves.
Sadly, I can only get a limited amount of information about Vysotsky and his academic writings. I don’t have the massive academic resources of a professor (it’s all very “pay to play”), nor do I have the commercial information resources of a journalist. I pretty much have the same thing as you all – an increasingly censored internet, controlled by the leftists who control SEARCH.
However, I am going to share whatever solid information I CAN get, in hopes that others with more resources take up the case. There is enough here to see that:
“Portland, we have a problem.“
For starters, Vysotsky’s curriculum vitae is – quite frankly – damning, in terms of his time in Portland. Timeline his arrival and academic history, and you will see the rise of ANTIFA in Portland correlating very strongly with those things.
Because there is some risk that it will be taken down, I have preserved the evidence as images:
There is also a true wealth of academic references. Because I refuse to buy into the bizarre alternative universe of “ANTIFA-think” propaganda as academia, which gerrymanders reality into an assortment of racial and historical grievances (which just happen to advance Soviet communism in America, but please don’t notice THAT), you won’t even see me arguing with “Vysotsky-think”, other than to state the following:
it is ALARMING that Stalinist thinking is being uploaded into CRIMINOLOGY
I suspect Vysotsky’s writings may ORIGINATE this thinking in academia
the primary effect looks like NORMALIZATION of “ANTIFA-think” in ACADEMIA
the secondary effect looks like NORMALIZATION of “ANTIFA-think” in NEWS
The latter point comes from the fact that Vysotsky gets interviewed by the news media, and the result is a bizarre framing of radical leftist talking points as “news”. Or, if not news, opinion.
I really don’t have to say anything here. There are people who buy into this stuff, and to me it’s just as contorted and nonsensical as the ginned-up opposite of the national socialists.
Socialists – national socialists – anarchists – international socialists – democratic socialists – WHATEVER. I let them speak for themselves. and I really don’t need to do much more.
READ THE ARTICLE. NORMALIZATION OF RADICALIZATION.
So THERE YOU HAVE IT.
Now – this is not all the information we have. There is MUCH more on Stanislav Vysotsky’s background that is, quite frankly, very damning, but we lack the resources to get a SECOND SOURCE VALIDATION which would pin things down. Thus, we encourage journalists with MORE RESOURCES to publish what THEY have, and we may then chose to VALIDATE if our information agrees.
a guest post by our dear house guardian Suspicious Cat
NOTE FROM WOLF: This post may require some explanation.
After allowing my somewhat mythical and somewhat not mythical sister Fox Moon to have her guest post, our dear pet Suspicious Cat has demanded to have his post, too.
You see, Suspicious Cat considers himself to be NORMAL CAT, and the rest of us to be DUPEY HUMANS, HUMAN SHEEP, or TALL DUMB DOGS, depending upon how stupid we are about things. He just thinks that humans are the best deal he’s going to get, so he’s “covering the downside” by watching out for us. And OH YEAH, he would vote for TRUMP if Democrats would let him.
Anyway, Suspicious Cat thought I made an exceptionally cat-like, albeit “incomplete like quantum mechanics” thread on Twitter, and he’s demanding to post it here, since he knows that my Twitter account is highly throttled and shadow-banned by other Dupey, Sheep-Like, Tall, Dumb Dogs. So here you go. Enjoy being lectured by a mouthy pet who thinks even the Watch Dog is an idiot.
W
PART 1: Hanlon’s Dull Razor
Thanks, Wolf. I’ll take it from here.
Wolf made an interesting thread on Twitter yesterday, and I’d like to begin there. Actually, it started with his Twitter friend Girl Grimly, who noticed Maggie Haberman “playing dumb” on Trump’s strategy vis-a-vis Turkey, Erdogan and Syrian withdrawal.
You will notice that there is a typically human non-sequitur here – “You cannot possibly be this stupid.” followed almost directly by “The globalist DC establishment is stupid.“
Just like what happened repeatedly with that smarter human named Einstein, this very bright young lady “had it right the first time“.
They cannot possibly be this stupid.
Smart people are remarkably easy to fool. Particularly if you tell them they’re SMART. After that, you can deceive them in all kinds of ways. Trust me – I’m a PET. Laziest, most deceptive job on Earth. I know how this works.
Normally, Wolf doesn’t catch onto this stuff, but for some reason, this time he did. So here is what Wolf said in response. We will start from the top using IMAGES – not tweets, because eventually Girl Grimly will be banned from Twitter, and only the DNC and CIA will have access to her wisdom.
See how that works? And you people are STILL ON TWITTER. Ridiculous.
To which Wolf said (with ZERO engagement, of course)….
Social media for humans to vent, in combination with Fake News playing dumb, is an amazing control tool to keep humans in the kiddie pool. In a normal world run by household pets like me, Maggie Haberman would have been fired long ago for this crap. But she’s actually a pet to her masters, and she is intellectually lazy – ON COMMAND – to get her treats.
It really is “fake news”. It’s a way of controlling people. It is NOT real news. It’s a kind of movable jail without bars.
Anyway, despite the fact that nobody is ever going to see his postings on Twitter, Wolf rather stupidly kept yelling into the void.
Wolf made this point before – LOST in the void of TWITTER.
Thomas Wictor likes to use Hanlon’s Razor, and while Thomas is a smart person, remember what I said – SMART PEOPLE are among the easiest to fool.
Wolf’s explanation of the fallacy follows:
Wolf’s corrected maxim, “Stupidity is likely to explain misfortune where deception is highly unlikely.“, accounts for the intriguing fact that the smarter and more capable the deceiver is, relative to the deceived, the EASIER it is to rely on deception, which in the case in question would mean PLAYING DUMB. This is why deception has to be not just unlikely, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY, for Hanlon’s Razor to even BEGIN making sense. Otherwise, Hanlon’s Razor is BACKWARDS thinking.
Hanlon’s Razor….
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
….is problematic because YOUR stupidity matters even more than the PRESUMED stupidity of the potential perpetrator of “whatever”. If the other party is smarter than YOU, then they can simply FEIGN STUPIDITY and you will TAKE THE BAIT.
They have ACHIEVED COVER.
I really have to admire the remarkable LULLING that Hanlon’s Razor accomplishes. To REMEMBER this deceitful malaphorism PROPERLY, remember it being whispered into a foolish king’s ear by your tribe’s mortal enemy, whoever that may be.
“I beg of thee, your Highness – remember thy own wisdom, as I have remembered it, and dare I say been served so well by such wise thought – that we must never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
“Oh, NOES! NEVAH!”
Sheesh.
THE CHUMPHOOD. IT BURNS.
Let’s go on.
Wolf hadn’t noticed this part about “malice”, THE LAST TIME he woke up on Hanlon’s Razor, only to be lulled back into “compliance”. I’m very glad he spotted it, because the “malice” part ALWAYS grated on my nerves.
Malice is a diversion – a presumption – a shiny object – a distraction.
The sleight of hand of asserting MALICE helps to sell the LIE that is Hanlon’s Razor.
If you’ve ever dealt with real criminals, like my previous owners (yes, I’m a rescue), then you understand that they are malicious about as often as good people. They just follow a simple rule:
“The rules don’t matter if I don’t get caught breaking them.”
Crooks are actually somewhat lovable people. They have reasons for breaking the rules, just like others have reasons for following them. Malice is rarely part of the equation.
It’s hilarious, but there should be a FULL STOP in Hanlon’s Razor, the absence of which almost argues for its diabolical intelligence. We’ll use a different form that shows it more clearly:
“Never assume malice when stupidity will do.”
But look at it this far:
“Never assume malice….”
“WAYUL SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!”
You just assumed malice, as DIRECTED by the PROGRAMMING of the assertion.
Take a look at how this looks from the “perp side of the con job”….
“Never assume malice, but you just did, and your stupidity will do.”
Are you seeing this? I hope so. It really is time for you tall dogs to grow the XXXX up.
Let’s go on.
Wolf is onto the key point. Hanlon’s Razor is very useful for DELUDED SHEEP to keep themselves in line.
“Don’t worry about that bloody spot. Nobody was malicious! Somebody was just stupid!”
Do you see how this has the wonderfully deceptive property of being “not even wrong“, due to the false attribution of malicious intent from the start?
SIDEBAR:
Has anybody studied the theory of “dead-endedness” of theories, or of theoretical approaches? Would older civilizations have discovered this idea first? Would they be tempted to – well – use it, for – say – “mutual benefit”?
Just theoretically. Since we’re all talking about deception.
Think about it.
Suspicious Cat
So let’s bring this back to something we can remember and carry with us at all times.
And I’m not going to let you go to the water fountains from hour 1 of this class without some homework.
The link won’t work in the tweet image. Try these links. FIRST, a variety of translations of Matthew 10:16.
SO, go take a break, and come back to the next step – how to GO BEYOND the Mamet Principle, using Hanlon’s Broken Razor as a BEATER SCREWDRIVER.
PART 2: Beyond The Mamet Principle
OK, class. There is a reason that we’re back here.
We need to bust not just one, but TWO ideas. The problem is, the second one is actually EXTREMELY useful as a “spotting scope”, but it is NOT accurate as a RANGE-FINDER.
What I am talking about is the Mamet principle, something which was LOOSELY stated by liberal-turned-conservative playwright David Mamet.
“In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments modern liberals have to pretend not to know things…”
Sundance, paraphrasing David Mamet in his book “The Secret Knowledge”
Wolf was taught this idea by SUNDANCE at The Last Refuge. Sundance uses it A LOT. Wolf LOVES it. So much so, that he made that MEME above, which alludes to the Mamet Principle using the idea that liberals utterly ignore Uranium One and the payoffs that Hillary Clinton received, to the tune of 146 million dollars. Liberals who still support Hillary Clinton LITERALLY pretend that these things didn’t happen, and/or don’t matter. The meme is designed to make liberals UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PRETENSE.
For some background on the Mamet Principle, [Go Deep] here:
Now, recently, Wolf started to WAKE UP on an idea – the idea that one can USE the Mamet Principle like ALGEBRA to SOLVE for what liberals are ACTUALLY DOING.
This is sometimes a scary thought, as you will see. When liberals PRETEND things, it is comfortable to think that they’re just being ILLOGICAL. What is NOT comfortable is realizing that they are actually pursuing something, and that their LIES are actually LOGICAL in that pursuit.
It is very important to DIVORCE the “brain-dead fronts” themselves from the liberal propaganda. Maxine Waters and Beto O’Rourke may be fronting the illogic, but if you let them personify it, you may have trouble appreciating the STALIN or the BERIA or the HOLDER or the AXELROD behind it.
Here is Wolf on Twitter again, as he was starting to see this. Let’s track his understanding as it grows.
The left pretends not to know that shutting down THEIR AntiFa is key to solving the political violence. #Charlottesville#MametPrinciple
You can see here that Wolf was starting to get beyond the illogic – to see their LOGIC. The leftists WANT the political violence. That is a HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. It means they’re BOLSHEVIKS. It is much easier – much more comfortable – to think they’re stupid.
Their IDEAS and LYING GOALS interpreted at face value may be illogical, but the PEOPLE are not. Perhaps the “brain-dead fronts” who PARROT the ideas are illogical and stupid, but NOT the people behind the situation.
THEY HAVE A PLAN.
Now look at this two-tweet response to Thomas Wictor. You have to follow it to Twitter, to see Thomas’s “missing” tweets, all nice and linked up in a row and weirdly accounted for, yet somehow invisible. It is extremely reasonable to presume that Thomas’s TWEET DATA is still on Twitter, usable by DNC and CIA. But WE cannot see it.
It's the Mamet Principle on mega-steroids. Liberals pretend not to know.
Kristin Welker’s FACE says more than 1000 words could possibly tell us.
THEY KNOW. THEY ARE NOT STUPID. It is not illogic. WE are the ones who are being illogical about THEM. We are not admitting that this Fake News Media is absolutely NOT ON OUR SIDE – meaning HUMANITY AS WE KNOW IT – and must be UTTERLY REJECTED.
Don’t assume THEY are stupid. Look hard. Look deep. Be humble. Who is REALLY being stupid? It is only by adopting THIS attitude that we can EVICT THEM from our lives.
Consider how the media CONSCIOUSLY slanders and CONSCIOUSLY psy-ops us, while simply pretending they are not. It’s worse than phony. It’s literally CRIMINAL but they get away with it by HIDING MALICE.
Here, Wolf talks about another Wolff, that horrible author of lies and malicious slander, who “pretends not to know” that he publishes assault garbage for a political agenda. Wolf also lays into another bad practice of the left in the publishing world, while he’s at it.
The left can stop almost any book they want, LONG before it goes to press. They STEAL pitches and give them to favorites like Chelsea Clinton. But by pretending not to know it's BS (Mamet principle), they can let psy-op slander move all the way to their #FakeNews talk cycles.
Perhaps the best place that Wolf actually put his new realization to use, as he was developing it, was PARKLAND. The entire operation depended on MASSIVE PRETENSE OF IGNORANCE.
Here is the first tweet of Wolf’s LONG THREAD on it.
This is in many ways a restatement of the Mamet Principle, but it shows that at the upper echelons of leftist thought, the pretense of ignorance is used in a highly strategic manner to achieve "social justice "goals. This can and will be demonstrated by deconstructing #Parkland. https://t.co/Do2u14C6QG
It turned out that the situation was even WORSE than that.
Wolf LATER applied the Mamet Principle, and seeing beyond it, to Twitter’s shadowbanning of conservatives. Another long thread HERE:
Part of the reason we're winning is that we actually try to understand things – for example, Twitter. The left has no clue – and doesn't REALLY try to get one. Observe this leftist troll, one Bradley "I block Nazis" Duke, who thinks he understands shadowbanning, but doesn't. pic.twitter.com/mgIfZTj7IS
Here is where Wolf was starting to see the connection to Hanlon’s Razor:
Mamet principle – leftists "pretending not to know" that their STUPID actions will have the INTENDED evil consequences. Note to all rational conservatives: Leftists figured out LONG AGO that the old saw "Never attribute to malice yada yada yada" is some of the best cover EVER. https://t.co/NTkuUEj5Tgpic.twitter.com/JdSE8X0rc4
Most recently, Wolf applied this idea of “logical lies behind Mamet principle apparent illogic” in dealing with a troll, who formed part of a three-way “conversation” (sort of) with Girl Grimly:
Appreciate the support, @ed_grimly! That boy is a perfect example of what @TheLastRefuge2 calls the Mamet Principle – David Mamet's contention that leftists feign ignorance to advance illogical arguments. I take it one step further. The illogic is a byproduct of hidden LIES. pic.twitter.com/fSNqaXmMPm
The hard thing to accept is that there are many on the other side who are more or less beyond redemption. We can influence those on the left who have accepted leftist positions due to many positive motivations, but not those who are deceptive by nature and fully love the lie. pic.twitter.com/AUsqYfK3RI
It’s very simple. DO NOT assume that the leftists are stupid. Yes, some of them ARE stupid, and THEY are the ones who make excellent FRONTS – a deception that buys time and opportunity for the more devious leftists.
When liberals “pretend not to know things”, don’t stop there. They are PLAYING STUPID or fronting a stupid position, but it is not the REAL position. Their stated goals are not the REAL goals.
FIND the real goals and STOP THEM from getting there.
Here is an actual plan of action.
when you hear illogic, realize that they pretend not to know
ask yourself why they would LOGICALLY do what they do
figure out what the LIE actually is, and WHY they are lying
explain the lie OPENLY to truth-tellers, to DISARM the left
work with other truth-tellers to END the source of the illogic
A perfect example of this technique, is how we shut down the Obama-Holder “Promise Programs” that were destroying due process (Trayvon Martin) and creating propaganda such as the Parkland massacre. The left had pretended not to know what was happening. We had to figure out what WAS happening – what the LIES actually were – and then STATE THEM OPENLY.
It was identifying the CONSPIRACY OF FEIGNED STUPIDITY and LIES behind #Parkland that put the Promise Programs in jeopardy.
find the indefensible reality behind the lies and illogic
accuse the left openly of the indefensible reality
The question is prompted by the knowledge that a SOCIALIST, SATANIST, ANTIFA-LOVING DEMOCRAT who WANTED GUN CONTROL, shot up a bar SO THAT THERE WOULD BE GUN CONTROL.
Think about that. Read it again.
One of THEM shot up a bar so that WE will have our guns taken.
This was every bit like a political suicide bomber, doing a kamikaze run on the Bill of Rights.
What do you think will happen if we LET IT WORK?
Do you think it might happen AGAIN?
With the same results?
Take a hint from THE WOLF – this is not a sustainable situation.
Now, I ask you again.
How many innocent people will YOU let THEM kill to make YOU give up your guns?
Speaking for myself, I will let them kill as many innocent people as necessary until we realize that we are at WAR WITH SOCIALISTS, straight out of the Soviet Union and China, and that they must be PUT DOWN like the PROGRESSIVE NAZIS THEY ARE.
Peacefully if possible. But DONE. Just like World War II.
Preferably within the limits of the Geneva Convention. LEGALLY.
This (Q+2)TH OF JULY / FREE SPEECH FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
(We’re celebrating KAG! AGAIN tonight with our VSG!)
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
LOOK! Dangerous vegetables that require CENSORSHIP!!!
There might be MISINFORMATION!!!
I’m sorry, but I can stand these COMMUNISTS of “whatever” race they are – typically pasty white hipster dweebs – which somehow makes ME a “white supremacist” for calling these damned communists communists, but…..
OH, JUST FUCK YOU, COMMUNISTS!
The banning of Health Ranger and Natural News will forever condemn these communists in tech to the NAZI CORNER of the history books. PROG NAZIS right now are very nearly as bad as the early German Nazis, who had not yet taken control of the German press, but were already inhibiting free speech in Germany. ANTIFA is their beginner street thugs, just like the KPD thugs in pre-Hitler Germany, who ginned up and fought with the brownshirts.
COMMIES VS. NAZIS is like ALIEN VS. PREDATOR. Whoever wins, WE LOSE.
You want to know who is behind this stuff? ADAM SCHIFF.
What a sick little pile of excrement, and I hope he ROTS IN GITMO.
The trouble is, this guy simply sent the signal that the DEEP STATE TECH was waiting for:
Talk about a cynical poll. People like ME who care about FREE SPEECH also care about DISINFORMATION, so we are part of that cynical 77% which is then applied to MY SPEECH, not THEIRS.
See how that works? It’s EVIL.
Consequently, you can bet that I have moved AWAY from Firefox, which can no longer be trusted.
And notice that these censorious hipsters are even helping with the “deepfakes” evasion by the pedos and Clinton-Obama CRIMINALS.
WHATEVER.
Move to BRAVE.
Or move to the FORK of Brave by GAB, called DISSENTER.
WHATEVER. We will work around the ERROR that is censorship.
This TO DESTROY ANTIFA (AND #AUNTIFA) TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
REMEMBER: This is our SECRET WEAPON OUT IN THE OPEN!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND PRAY FOR AMERICA TOO!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
It turns out that we can thank LAURA INGRAHAM for tonight’s theme / meme of “The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse“.
If you need proof, here it is – right in the TREACHEROUS HUFFPO.
I find it remarkable that Laura SO QUICKLY and SO LONG AGO spotted the PERNICIOUS PESTILENCE that is this coven of new and remarkably un-American – no – I take that back – ANTI-AMERICAN congresswomen – who seek power over America.
If you want to watch that episode, here it is:
https://youtu.be/haslnW-eOlo
And YES – the “four horsewomen” comment comes at 4:25 in the video, if you want to check it out.
I found something rather remarkable, thanks to the FAKE NEWS SOCIAL MEDIA (YouTube) and its massive and omnipresent BIAS against all things Trump, Republican, etc.
The fake news was REALLY SCARED OF THIS SEGMENT. Not only did I find the HuffPo piece very quickly (and before I found Laura’s actual monologue) – I also found right next to it a “Young Turks” panel of women who spent 12 minutes going off on Laura’s criticism.
Here is THAT video – without the benefit of showing. Sorry, ladies – all you get is a link: https://youtu.be/GgQ53kzqcUM
Fortunately, our wonderful VSGPOTUS – defending AMERICA from those who despise it, has maximally unmasked these bitter agents of COMMUNISM and ISLAMISM.
So much so, that even the HORRIBLE COMMUNIST David Axelrod was forced to the surface, from his bottom-feeding mud-hole somewhere in Chicago….
YOU get to defend both the VIOLENT #ANTIFA and the SUBVERSIVE #AUNTIFA.
Or should I say – #AUNTIFAH.
There you go – it comes in two varieties – COMMUNIST and ISLAMIST. Take your pick.
So while we’re at it, using the TRUMP DOCTRINE to make the COMMUNISTS and ISLAMISTS behind the Democrat Party responsible for the angry loony radical communist and Islamist ladies of AUNTIFA(H), it’s time to also make them responsible for the VIOLENCE of ANTIFA.
And on that note, a VERY interesting video from NORWAY.
AH – the COMFORTING PRESENCE of a peaceful family man – STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFEND WHAT’S RIGHT, from those who USE CONFLICT AND HATRED to advance an UNWANTED AGENDA OF CONTROL over the PEOPLE.
Check out this man’s wonderful testimony.
HOW NORWAY GOT RID OF ANTIFA.
The video is painfully long, but the man’s slow, controlled, precise, oddly “West-Germanic” Norwegian-accented English, is weirdly soothing, and worth at least a short listen.
His prescription (as interpreted / analyzed / augmented by me) comes down to this:
they have to be arrested, every time they are violent or do something illegal
they need to be ridiculed as LOSERS – not bullied – but regularly ridiculed
their hatred of traditional masculinity and family must be recognized and criticized
they ALL have personal issues – FIXING THOSE weakens their abuse by communists
the abuse of these mental patients by communists to fill the ranks must be criticized
the TRANS movement that FILLS ANTIFA must be shut down as mental abuse
the TRANS movement is designed to GENERATE CONFLICTOS to become ANTIFA
the antifa groups now have support from the INTERNET – weaken / oppose it
they now have too much support from journalists – ridicule, criticize, warn and shame
journalists labeling normies AS NAZIS is exactly what the NAZIS did – demand they stop
antifa have both support and CREATION from academics – weaken, criticize, spotlight
antifa are “farmed” in universities – weaken, criticize, and SUE OUT THE WAZOO
the centrist politicians who will define the future of a peaceful nation must shun them
the contradictions of the movement (hatred and violence) must be made clear
ban the wearing of masks to force members to face both consequences and contradictions
members have to be given a PATH OF RETREAT to leave the movement, #WALKAWAY
(Thanks to Wheatie for a reminder about the banning of masks – VERY important!)
I can tell you, that after I listen to this video, then cross-reference it with the video at the end, in which UNIVERSITIES are identified as ANTIFA INCUBATORS, and catalog the individual points above, I am quite confident that we can destroy ANTIFA and make Democrats, and particularly the COMMUNISTS who are in control of the party, fully responsible for the mess.
Forty years ago, I would have been writing this as a letter to the editor of my favorite science association magazine, AFTER the president of that association would have ALREADY said something similar PUBLICLY to the President of the United States, BUT – well – times have changed, and the heads of science associations don’t say things about leftist groups that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t approve first.
So today WE THE PEOPLE talk about one of my favorite sciences – CHEMISTRY.
Let’s talk about relative dangers – what is hype and what is not hype.
Remember the “Deplor-a-Ball” after the Trump inauguration, when those DNC-Creamer-Antifa types (whoever) were going to use BUTYRIC ACID to attack the ball?
It’s time for some BRUTAL honesty for the sake of DISCERNMENT.
People on our side made a big deal about butyric acid being “corrosive” at the time, but the truth is, butyric acid is a weaker acid than acetic acid, the main stuff of VINEGAR. Pure acetic acid is not bad stuff – one could actually wash their hands with it, as long as they washed their hands thoroughly afterwards with water. Acetic acid, like butyric acid, is a WEAK ACID.
Weak acids give you TIME – maybe even INFINITE TIME – to wash them off. If they’re going into your STOMACH, where it’s already even MORE acidic, it’s not even a big deal.
That is why we put acetic acid – whoops, I mean vinegar – on our salads. We enjoy the MILD SENSATION of its WEAK ACID NATURE on our TONGUES. On our MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
Are you starting to see this?
Even when acetic acid is BAD, like when you cough a bit from inhaling some salad dressing, or when we use acetic acid to make cute little lab animals COUGH (but not too badly!) in tests of COUGH SUPPRESSION, it just ain’t that bad.
By the way, they teach this stuff in universities. Or at least, they used to.
Butyric acid, like acetic acid, simply isn’t that bad. It STINKS really, really, really badly, and THAT is what the evil Democrats were going to do – STINK UP that fancy party of uber-hip, good-to-be-bad, Trump supporters.
That’s it. It was a STINK ATTACK. But many on our side tried to make it sound worse than it was, because they could, because the LOSERS and HATERS had basically made a really dumb error in using a stinky stuff with the name ACID in it. The Democrats didn’t respect the POWER of psychology and information over actual chemistry.
Yeah, I know the feeling – the Dems who plotted that attack are indeed evil punks who deserve to go to jail – but it was still just a STINK ATTACK – not a corrosive attack. Even if Democrats had thrown that stuff on people, it would have been like throwing a mixture of RANCID BUTTER AND VINEGAR.
Yes, it probably says “corrosive” and “danger” on the label. Today, everything is OVER-LABELED, and we don’t have much DISCERNMENT of true chemical dangers. Everything is deadly in California for a reason – so that nobody has discernment. They WANT people to be like babies, utterly dependent on “experts” like me.
BUT NOW FOR SOME DISCERNMENT. Now for something discernibly different.
Fast forward to ANTIFA, and their threats to throw water balloons filled with “muriatic acid and wax” at conservatives. THAT, my friends, is a whole nuther beast. THAT is where CHEMICAL DISCERNMENT comes in.
Muriatic acid is – as you can see here – as much as 28% hydrochloric acid.
28% Hydrochloric acid is, for lack of a better term, concentrated hydrochloric acid.
People quibble over concentrations here, but it is frigging MEANINGLESS. As I will explain.
From Wikipedia:
Hydrochloric acid is produced in solutions up to 38% HCl (concentrated grade). Higher concentrations up to just over 40% are chemically possible, but the evaporation rate is then so high that storage and handling require extra precautions, such as pressurization and cooling. Bulk industrial-grade is therefore 30% to 35%, optimized to balance transport efficiency and product loss through evaporation. In the United States, solutions of between 20% and 32% are sold as muriatic acid. Solutions for household purposes in the US, mostly cleaning, are typically 10% to 12%, with strong recommendations to dilute before use. In the United Kingdom, where it is sold as “Spirits of Salt” for domestic cleaning, the potency is the same as the US industrial grade.[14] In other countries, such as Italy, hydrochloric acid for domestic or industrial cleaning is sold as “Acido Muriatico”, and its concentration ranges from 5% to 32%.
Even the toilet bowl cleaners based on HCl are shocking to me in their strength, and they are nowhere near 28% – more like 5-10%. I have ordered my wife NOT to buy those things. We had to air out the house the last time she used one. I smelled HCl everywhere and I did a MAJOR “WTF”.
I’m not saying this isn’t a damn good product. What I’m saying is that people need to be damn careful with it, and – well – my dear wife needs a more carefree product, let’s just say.
Note that the PRINCIPLE here is the same as what ANTIFA is doing with added “wax”. The “gel” is a way to make it STICK. They’re just talking about even stronger acids.
Check out the warnings on this gelled 5-10% acid. Seriously. READ THEM.
Trust me, these differences in high (>5%) concentrations only mean a few seconds MORE or LESS before it does the SAME NASTY STUFF TO YOUR BODY. These are all STRONG CONCENTRATIONS OF THE SAME ACID – a substance known as hydrogen chloride.
If we are brutally honest, then the reason that they CALL the commercial, industrial-grade stuff “muriatic acid” – an older name that NOBODY uses in the laboratory any more – is simply because it DOESN’T SOUND AS BAD.
Oh, they’ll give you some industry jargon history blah-blah-blah excuse, and technically it will be true, but FUCKIN’ A THIS SHIT IS JUST CONCENTRATED HYDROCHLORIC ACID.
AND CON HCL IS BAD SHIT.
I know this sounds harsh, but I personally think that police need to SHOOT anybody throwing balloons, once strong acid has been identified. They need to END THE THROWING IMMEDIATELY.
Here is why I feel this way.
I have DEALT with both butyric acid and muriatic/hydrochloric/whatever acid. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Hydrochloric is one of the ones they WARN PEOPLE ABOUT in the lab. Nobody warns you about butyric acid, even if you can find a bottle.
In contrast, chemistry students in laboratory are going to use concentrated HCl a LOT, and they need to respect it. Nothing will FREAK OUT a chemistry department head faster than hearing that some freshman spilled concentrated hydrochloric acid all over themselves.
The first thing that will be asked is HOW FAST the stuff was washed off. SECONDS COUNT.
Imagine a pint of the stuff in THE FACE.
Hydrochloric acid can blind, or if inhaled deeply as a liquid, mist, or concentrated vapors, KILL. A strike in the face, like Andy Ngo of Quillette got with the concrete “milkshake”, would likely blind or kill him, if it was con HCl instead of concrete.
He would have been in WAY worse shape than what you see below.
Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv
— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@HarmeetKDhillon) June 30, 2019
That, my friends, is the result of NORMAL weaponry. ROCKS, basically.
HCl in the hands of ANTIFA is a CHEMICAL WEAPON.
When we are in the laboratory, we ventilate butyric acid for STENCH, but we ventilate hydrochloric acid for DANGER.
Inhale a little bit of water, and you are on the ground coughing. Inhale concentrated hydrochloric acid, and your lungs are burned from the inside.
Are you starting to see why I am basically thinking the feds need to send in the troops and restore order to the whole bloody left coast? This stuff is ridiculous. This isn’t America. This is the frigging Russian Revolution.
By IDIOTS who scream about RUSSIA? Seriously?
It’s literally INSANE.
I think I’ve gotten every kind of concentrated acid on me. Every one of the “strong acids” is horrible in its own way. Sulfuric burns through clothing and skin, but it’s slow. Nitric is faster and oxidizing and does interesting things to clothing, but it’s not super-volatile. You can get a fuming version of either sulfuric or nitric acid. Those are a bit nastier. Nice, fresh, highly concentrated hydrochloric acid fumes on its own, just a bit, and the fumes have a very seductively pure but deadly look, kinda like the railroad crash above. Hydrochloric is the most like a chemical weapon. It’s volatile, searing, fast, and strong.
The idea that these ANTIFA people want to make it even worse – more like napalm on human skin by adding the wax – that is just sick. It’s like our “yippies” went from protesting ABOUT napalm to MAKING IT.
I’m pretty sure that ANTIFA is Robert Creamer’s work, because he said he likes to use mental patients, and these people sure seem like mental patients to me. They are – quite literally – criminally insane, thanks to PC and antisocial socialist brainwashing.
Antifa has gone too far with hydrochloric acid. In my opinion the plotters need to be arrested now, or the police need to use DEADLY FORCE once these people start throwing concentrated strong acid.
Have we ever had people like this in America before? Certainly not that I can remember. This is UNAMERICAN. What is WRONG with Oregon? What is WRONG with their governor? What is WRONG with Portland? What is WRONG with their mayor?
Are they taking LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE – a.k.a. LSD – a.k.a. “acid”? (Which is not even an “acid” at all, by the way.)
Or does PC actually have the power to make people mentally unbalanced?
Whatever is happening, Q is right. These people are SICK.
This REEEEEE-ATTLE MARXIST MAYHEM MAY DAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember to KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP IN PRAYER.
WE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM
Always keep our movement’s larger purpose in mind – RESTORATION!!!
That is why there MUST BE cleaning of the SWAMP!!!
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
NOW….
Some of you may have bad associations with “May Day”, as a day when the COMMIES come out to make noise…
Which in reality looks more like THIS…..
Although I’m sure you’d much rather be HERE…..
Joey Gibson, who is running for Sen. Maria Cantwell’s seat, addresses the crowd at the Patriot Prayer rally at Westlake Park on Tuesday. (Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)
So NOT EVERYBODY who shows up at an activity on MAY DAY is a communist…..
But still…….
Seattle women Melissa Braddock center and Jenny Domoto far left in Washington D.C. at the Women’s March on Jan. 21,2017. (Photo by Melissa Braddock)
OK – admittedly that is neither May Day nor is it IN Reeattle, BUT that is the kind of people the cops have to deal with.
Enjoy your REEATTLE MAY DAY. Marxist Mayhem or not.
And remember to watch out for those White Nationalists. Because even the black ones are extremely dangerous to our democracy and cause a lot of mayhem.
Well, maybe just when nobody else is looking, or in another universe.
Here we go! Today’s theme is the TURNING POINT in their narrative, as MUELLER and his FAKE JUSTICE (my new catch-phrase) fall apart. So I’m borrowing imagery from Turning Point USA.
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: e68885 No.5318964 Feb 22 2019 00:20:27 (EST) [Soft Push of New Narrative – Example] https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1098748506364203008 https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1098725171022700545 https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1098395056052948992 What happened to the Mueller hype? What happened to the Mueller will take down POTUS threats [@JohnBrennan]? Was MUELLER the ‘insurance’ policy aka BLOCKADE designed to limit/restrict POTUS’ ability to enforce the law? [TRAITORS] New talking points being pushed backing away from Mueller as the savior re: excuse A, excuse B, excuse C? Why are *new* investigations by [AS] being started, if, as he’s stated for almost (2) years, ‘evidence’ exists that ties POTUS to Russia? If they had evidence, do you think it would have leaked? If they had evidence, would they be backing away (playing down) the Mueller report about to be released? First they pushed for a SC. Now they claim the SC didn’t look deep enough? IF THE SC REPORT IS CLASSIFIED – HOW DO THEY KNOW WHERE, WHO, WHEN, WHY, AND HOW DEEP EACH CASE …………..? IF THE SC REPORT IS CLASSIFIED – HOW DO THEY KNOW THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE REPORT? Are *new* investigations designed to be an ‘insurance’ extension? Designed to prevent POTUS from CLEANING HOUSE? Attack on political opponent(s) who is/are actively conducting (leading) investigations into the President for XYZ charges beyond Mueller for XYZ reasons (zero evidence to support) – OBSTRUCTION TRAP? [SDNY] opening ‘private’ investigation for the sole purpose of FINDING A CRIME? Evidence to support? Evidence presented? Does [SDNY] report to AG BARR? Watch the news. [MW] opening *new* investigations into the ‘finances’ of POTUS and/or his family? Why did D’s state ‘things will calm down if we retake the House’ prior to the midterm elections? Was their plan to retake the House in order to ‘chair’ each respective committee in order to start *new* erroneous investigations in an attempt to retain the BLOCKADE? Retain the ‘insurance’ policy? Retain the optical illusion that a crime was committed? Retain the narrative? Retain D_base outrage? Retain D_base obstruction? Retain D_base support to block POTUS’ agenda? If you know your opponents move, what advantages that does present? If you have the TRUTH on your side, what advantages does that present? If you have full control of the US MIL, what advantages does that present? If you have complete AUTH TO DECLAS, what advantages does that present? If you have the SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE (PATRIOTS), what advantages does that present? DO NOT TRUST THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA. YOU ARE THE MAJORITY. MUELLER > DECLAS > OIG > TRUTH > JUSTICE THE GREAT AWAKENING. YOU ARE THE NEWS NOW. Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 60d97a No.5319191 Feb 22 2019 00:34:42 (EST) We thank you for your service, BO. We thank you for your service, Vols. We thank you for your service, Bakers. We thank you for your service, Anons. God bless each and every one of you. Patriots, one and all! Pepe is proud and has never been more popular. Q
Q Post 2857
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 60d97a No.5319456 Feb 22 2019 00:42:43 (EST) Re: Conservative attacked on UC Berkeley campus Attacker = member of local ANTIFA chapter (joined April 2018). Facial scans do not ‘hit’ directly > 2 jumps downstream req. Q
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: bbf6c5 No.5320696 Feb 22 2019 01:47:17 (EST) IoS1RS6.png The Deal of a Lifetime? [Tarmac] meeting not planned according to [LL] & [BC]? Security reports indicate USSS (sec detail [BC] & FBI (sec detail [LL]) planned for meeting? SC/[LL] deal presented by BC? What actions did [JC] take days after? Less than a week after the tarmac meeting, [JC] announced that the FBI would not recommend an indictment against [HRC]? Returning to the news? Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: bbf6c5 No.5320727 Feb 22 2019 01:49:52 (EST) Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: bbf6c5 No.5320696 Feb 22 2019 01:47:17 (EST) IoS1RS6.png The Deal of a Lifetime? [Tarmac] meeting not planned according to [LL] & [BC]? Security reports indicate USSS (sec detail [BC] & FBI (sec detail [LL]) planned for meeting? SC/[LL] deal presented by BC? What actions did [JC] take days after? Less than a week after the tarmac meeting, [JC] announced that the FBI would not recommend an indictment against [HRC]? Returning to the news? Q
>>5320696
Just another coincidence we dropped [LL] was offered a SC seat on Feb 6th and backed up by POTUS on April 15th. Enjoy the show! Q
Q Post 2861
When are people going to start asking about what REALLY went on in that plane between @BillClinton and @AGLynch in June 2016?
Uncovered video@BernieSanders in 1985 praising the Communist Castro regime in Cuba and admitting on camera that he traveled to Nicaragua to advise the Ortega regime on how to successfully fight the United States. pic.twitter.com/qYtpvbVvCS
.@Politico reports today: "A wide-ranging disinformation campaign aimed at Democratic 2020 candidates is already underway on social media, with signs that foreign state actors are driving at least some of the activity." https://t.co/LjM14jluq8
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 592cf1 No.5333408 Feb 22 2019 18:03:30 (EST) https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1098294023738064898 For those who think this war is fake, or we are not a considered a major threat, this is a direct attack by Hillary Clinton on ‘Q’ & ‘PRO POTUS’ PATRIOTS. The article referenced has an embedded link that literally TARGETS PRO POTUS/Q Twitter accounts that have been IDENTIFIED by CLINTON/DS as serious threats (ability to shift the narrative). Twitter has already begun to remove targeted accounts (stages) under false pretenses. The war is real. The threat is real. CLINTON PANIC. CLINTON FEAR. JUDGEMENT DAY COMING. Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 592cf1 No.5333421 Feb 22 2019 18:04:12 (EST) Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 592cf1 No.5333408 Feb 22 2019 18:03:30 (EST) https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1098294023738064898 For those who think this war is fake, or we are not a considered a major threat, this is a direct attack by Hillary Clinton on ‘Q’ & ‘PRO POTUS’ PATRIOTS. The article referenced has an embedded link that literally TARGETS PRO POTUS/Q Twitter accounts that have been IDENTIFIED by CLINTON/DS as serious threats (ability to shift the narrative). Twitter has already begun to remove targeted accounts (stages) under false pretenses. The war is real. The threat is real. CLINTON PANIC. CLINTON FEAR. JUDGEMENT DAY COMING. Q
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Disregard all spelling/other errors. On the move. Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 592cf1 No.5333636 Feb 22 2019 18:11:53 (EST) Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 592cf1 No.5333408 Feb 22 2019 18:03:30 (EST) https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1098294023738064898 For those who think this war is fake, or we are not a considered a major threat, this is a direct attack by Hillary Clinton on ‘Q’ & ‘PRO POTUS’ PATRIOTS. The article referenced has an embedded link that literally TARGETS PRO POTUS/Q Twitter accounts that have been IDENTIFIED by CLINTON/DS as serious threats (ability to shift the narrative). Twitter has already begun to remove targeted accounts (stages) under false pretenses. The war is real. The threat is real. CLINTON PANIC. CLINTON FEAR. JUDGEMENT DAY COMING. Q
I can vouch for what Q is saying here. Among the targeted Twitter accounts in this link are Steph and Linda Suhler, two of my favorite follows. (There are others, but I have followed these gals the longest.) These are NOT foreign or foreign-influenced accounts. They are very American MAGA woman Twitter warriors. They know how to use Twitter and are rewarded for it.
MEANWHILE – I know who the REAL “Russian bots” are – both actual Russians and “influenced”. They are NOT listed here AT ALL.
I repeat. The Americommies are NOT going after the REAL RUSSIANS.
TAKE. ONE. GUESS. WHY.
I have watched both Steph and Linda TARGETED, repeatedly, by Twitter.
On-the-record denials this sweeping and emphatic apparently caused some journalists not to write this story. The McClatchy guys went with it anyway, despite their sources’ refusal to be specific about what, exactly, was being investigated. https://t.co/OEtM198gAO
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 4a88a1 No.4609173 Jan 5 2019 11:57:15 (EST) DtTs2t-X4AA7yJB.jpg https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1080929050120593410 What happens when all ‘insiders’ know the news is FAKE? What happens when all ‘insiders’ know [AS] is the leak of false data? What happens when a member of the House Intel Comm purposely leaks FAKE & FALSE data to ‘friendly’ news sources in order to maintain & portray a FALSE NARRATIVE to the public? How do you build a case against a member of the House Intel Comm if they themselves have access to the intelligence? What critical ‘mission’ did SESSIONS publicly announce re: leaks? Why did SESSIONS make this PUBLIC? Optics are important. Control of the NARRATIVE. TRUTH & TRANSPARENCY IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD> RE: MUELLER deleted ‘critical’ text messages between PS+LP? Re_read Re: [MUELLER] designed to…. The ‘MUELLER’ insurance policy has expired. Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.373 Oct 9 2018 20:42:13 (EST) Statement release 10.9.18 [p_AUTHORITY1] General Statement: We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow]. Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP] How can you make arrests [non military] prior to first fully cleaning out corrupt elements [at the top] of those departments [FBI][DOJ] that oversee ‘investigation & prosecution’ in the United States [they [themselves] are the very ones engaged in the illegal treasonous acts]? James Comey, Director – FIRED Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director – FIRED Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok’s boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed] Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC – HRC email invest] – FIRED/FORCE John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General – FIRED Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x – cooperating witness [power removed] – TERMINATION IMMINENT Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – FIRED/FORCED [Batter’s Box] Michael Steinbach John Glacalone Randy Coleman Trisha Anderson https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/fashion/weddings/trisha-anderson-charles-newman-weddings.html Kevin Clinesmith Tashina Gauhar Sally Moyer How do you ensure those prosecuted [non military] would receive an impartial judgement based on the RULE OF LAW? Think Federal Judge rulings [obstruction][POTUS’ granted CONSTITUTIONAL authority]. How do you ensure ‘appeals’ to the U.S. Supreme Court are evaluated impartially > based on the RULE OF LAW? Think Justice K (5 to 4). Military Law v Criminal Law “Enemy Combatant” How do you navigate around installed BLOCKADE? [MUELLER] designed to take-in evidence needed to ‘expose’ DS [DOJ block re: Mueller ‘evidence’ ongoing investigation]. [MUELLER] designed to limit POTUS’ ability to maneuver. [MUELLER] designed to ‘stall-for-time’ until MIDTERM ELECTIONS to TERMINATE all HOUSE / SENATE ongoing investigations. [MUELLER] designed to ‘safeguard’ D_PARTY_BASE false narrative re: RUSSIA COLLUSION [POTUS CHEATED – EVIL – SKY FALLING] in effort to DIVIDE and MOBILIZE for future protests, riots, threats, violence, FF’s, etc. [MUELLER] designed to provide FAKE NEWS w/ ammunition to sway public opinion, obstruct foreign + domestic agenda, fuel impeachment/removal, fuel anti-POTUS [DIVISION][prevent UNITY], etc.. [MUELLER] designed to demonstrate to foreign players that OLD GUARD still pulls strings. [MUELLER] designed to mobilize D_PARTY for MIDTERM VOTE WIN. [MUELLER] designed to push D_PARTY backers to DONATE [GOFUNDME – D_PARTY]. [MUELLER] designed as PUBLIC OUTCRY EXCUSE should criminal charges be brought against them [‘we are being ‘politically’ attacked because MUELLER…]. How do you REMOVE installed BLOCKADE? DECLAS—DECLAS—DECLAS How do you navigate around installed corrupt [FBI][DOJ]? USE A STEALTH BOMBER Who must authorize firing of FBI/DOJ officials? Why did McCabe try to take SESSIONS out? https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/fired-fbi-official-authorized-perjury-investigation-against-sessions-1191727171576?v=raila& What was the SESSIONS SENATE CONF VOTE? 52-47 No. 175 Logical thinking v clickbait. Q
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Yeah, it’s complicated when they get nested. Moving on to the next post….
The Democrats want Billions of Dollars for Foreign Aid, but they don’t want to spend a small fraction of that number on properly securing our Border. Figure that one out!
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: f71f75 No.4610613 Jan 5 2019 13:21:19 (EST) DbqFW2HW4AA0Luo.jpg https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1081555779059105793 Complete BLACKOUT by the FAKE NEWS MEDIA? Ask yourself, why? Are they afraid of U.S. Patriots engaging in the same tactics? Did the LIBERAL LEFT (OLD GUARD) engage and form organizations such as ANTIFA TO COMBAT AND SILENCE (FASCISM) any such DEVIATION OF THE CONTROLLED NARRATIVE? Do the actions of those Patriots abroad DESTROY THE FAKE NEWS NARRATIVE re: majority agree w/ the policies of the LIBERAL LEFT? WE WILL NOT GO SILENT INTO THE NIGHT. WE WILL NOT GO WITHOUT A FIGHT. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS MOVEMENT AND WW EVENTS ARE SIMPLY A COINCIDENCE? DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK. TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG. WE, THE PEOPLE. WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE THE POWER. EO ACTIVE. WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL!!! Q
Do you notice any similarities? D’s attempt to turn the public against our police, ICE, and those who continually serve the public interest (protect)? Open borders w/ no Immigration & Customs Officials to safeguard the people? EU gov’t attempt to turn the police against the people re: yellow vest protests? Police vs People _ EU D’s attempt to sway public vs Police/ICE _ US A war against GLOBALISM. A war to retain SOVEREIGNTY. DIVIDE THOSE WHO POLICE & SAFEGUARD AGAINST THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SWORN TO PROTECT. CHAOS. MAKE THE PEOPLE FIGHT THEMSELVES VS ORIGINAL TARGETS (OLD GUARD). FAKE NEWS push of racism, fascism, sexism, every other …’ism’ etc…. against those seeking to END GLOBALISM in favor of NATIONALISM (pride of heritage and culture – preservation & security/safety) is DESIGNED TO KEEP YOU SUBMISSIVE. Why do D’s deploy and use ‘racism’ as their ‘go-to’ tactic when an argument or narrative cannot factually be substantiated? POTUS & BLACK COMMUNITY PRE_CANDIDACY? POTUS & BLACK COMMUNITY POST_CANDIDACY? RECONCILE. They want you DIVIDED. CONTROLLED SUBMISSIVE SHEEP. Posse Comitatus Act. Q
Will POTUS be @ CD tomorrow? [1 year delta] Matters of NAT SEC? The clock is ticking. Follow the watch. Q
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More on what @costareports is hearing – Trump has been talking about it for several days, and White House counsel's office has taken a look at what is possible since the shutdown began and Trump revived talk of this inside White House. https://t.co/3KiZdOnOrY
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 886549 No.4616371 Jan 5 2019 19:09:17 (EST) DuJ8OHPW0AAWVmw.jpg https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1081693680291991552 Several days? What if this was always the plan? Justice K. Timing is everything. Why deploy vested powers of the Office of the President (under ‘verifiable’ matters of National Security) when you can instead unveil America’s TRUE ENEMY? Public awakening. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7524 “We have has a very good relationship with Maggie Haberman of Politico over the last year. We have had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed. While we should have a larger conversation in the near future about a broader strategy for reengaging the beat press that covers HRC, for this we think we can achieve our objective and do the most shaping by going to Maggie.” You are not safe. Q
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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 6d1065 No.4617146 Jan 5 2019 19:50:25 (EST) DuJ04KmWwAAOkF1.jpg How do you outmaneuver the obstructionists? How do you expose the obstructionists for what they really are? ‘ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE’ They are only now figuring it out. Q
Why do D’s always PUSH (force R’s to include Spending Bills for approval) BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR FOREIGN AID? Who audits where the money ‘actually’ goes? How do politicians become ‘extremely’ wealthy while in office on gov’t salaries? How do xyz ‘orgs’ etc. remain funded? https://www.foreignassistance.gov https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore Why do D’s only care about CONTROL/POWER? POWER OF THE PURSE. POWER = PROTECTION. THE WHEEL OF CORRUPTION. Welcome to the CON. Q
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