“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This ROCKTOBER [22] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Are you enjoying ROCKTOBER? I hope so. I know I am.
Feel the FREEDOM. BREATHE IT IN. FEEL IT make you COME ALIVE.
FIGHT HARD, but remember to ENJOY THE WINNING.
ENJOY IT with me.
Where We Go One, We Go All.
W
President Trump & Melania share traditional Japanese dinner with Prime Minister Abe & wife.
PS: DA WOOF IS BAAAACK!
I left the above post “as is”, and simply add these thoughts upon my return.
First of all, it’s good to be back. It was good to get away for a while, but I missed being connected to America. I missed being connected to our little machine by which we understand what is REALLY happening. I missed my good company which is so easily taken for granted.
I missed Y’ALL, one might say.
I had many thoughts during my journey. One thing was very clear to me, and I wanted to say this over and over again.
“Travel still broadens the mind, despite globalism.”
While there are still differences, those differences allow us to see what is possible. So I have to ask myself – how could anything which prevents us from broadening our minds be good?
And then, what I see in spite of this – seemingly KNOWINGLY in spite of this, is a complex con game perpetrated on humanity, in which we are all asked not merely to set aside differences – to “live and let live” – but to EACH FEEL OBLIGATED TO ELIMINATE OUR OWN DIFFERENCES.
Everybody is being asked to eliminate THEIR differences.
At which point I interrupt, against the rules, and very politely interject a simple question:
“WHO IS ASKING?”
That is before I even begin to ask the questions of WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY and HOW.
SO – you may notice that I have some questions upon my return – questions not only because I quite literally MISSED an entire week of real news and analysis, but questions that include very basic ones which result from the simple fact of a travel-broadened mind, despite globalism.
And that’s not counting the effects of jet lag, which you may notice, too! *wink*
Anyway, there will be some posts coming, based on my journey. Very soon.
This ROCKTOBER [15] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
“It is dangerous to attribute to stupidity that which could be the result of malice or guile.” -Aubergine
I love it!
Born from our discussion of Hanlon’s Razor HERE, I can neither vouch for the originality of Aubergine’s idea, nor will I even try. For MY purposes, this simply IS “Aubergine’s Razor”. Others can argue about priority. I heard it first from Aubergine. DONE!!!
As soon as I read this wonderful inversion of Hanlon’s “dull” Razor, I knew it was a winner, and promptly began creating memes.
That first one is subtle. WHOSE stupidity is not obvious, just as whose malice or guile is also not obvious. However, in my opinion, the fact that it could be many people makes this even more compelling. It is DISTURBING to see the El Paso patsy being led by a tactical pro. This one may not be the most obvious case of the Razor, but it is a POWERFUL one, and is worth coming back to later.
I noticed a FASCINATING psychological effect when I made this meme. As I chose the image, I worried that Susan Rice looked “too innocent” – that the meme would not work.
Yet look at it now. She looks PERFECT for it.
Next – CANKLES!
To quote President Trump, “LOOK AT THAT FACE!” The “Hillary patented fake smile” in spades!
Scott467 noticed something very interesting. The term “could be” almost seems ridiculously gentle, next to some of these criminal creeps. Words like “is likely to be” or ” is obviously” are very tempting. And yet, I think that Aubergine’s formulation, which would simply hint the possibility of malevolence to those lacking in discernment, is the best, because it’s the BROADEST possible application of the idea. If there even COULD be malice or guile, then the DANGER is asserted to be present.
michaelh postulates a corollary that I think most of us will agree with.
THAT IS WHY THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS PLAY DUMB.
Yes! This cannot be repeated often enough. Dems are PLAYING DUMB, and we PLAY ALONG with their LIES disguised as FOLLY whenever we choose to “just let it stand” instead of – at the very least – rejecting their arguments as “not accepted by us”.
SO – let’s give a hand to Aubergine for handing us a formidable MEME and WEAPON, which I will now used to craft many new graphical memes.
W
New York hearse carrying nursing home COVID-19 victim.
a guest post by our dear house guardian Suspicious Cat
NOTE FROM WOLF: This post may require some explanation.
After allowing my somewhat mythical and somewhat not mythical sister Fox Moon to have her guest post, our dear pet Suspicious Cat has demanded to have his post, too.
You see, Suspicious Cat considers himself to be NORMAL CAT, and the rest of us to be DUPEY HUMANS, HUMAN SHEEP, or TALL DUMB DOGS, depending upon how stupid we are about things. He just thinks that humans are the best deal he’s going to get, so he’s “covering the downside” by watching out for us. And OH YEAH, he would vote for TRUMP if Democrats would let him.
Anyway, Suspicious Cat thought I made an exceptionally cat-like, albeit “incomplete like quantum mechanics” thread on Twitter, and he’s demanding to post it here, since he knows that my Twitter account is highly throttled and shadow-banned by other Dupey, Sheep-Like, Tall, Dumb Dogs. So here you go. Enjoy being lectured by a mouthy pet who thinks even the Watch Dog is an idiot.
W
PART 1: Hanlon’s Dull Razor
Thanks, Wolf. I’ll take it from here.
Wolf made an interesting thread on Twitter yesterday, and I’d like to begin there. Actually, it started with his Twitter friend Girl Grimly, who noticed Maggie Haberman “playing dumb” on Trump’s strategy vis-a-vis Turkey, Erdogan and Syrian withdrawal.
You will notice that there is a typically human non-sequitur here – “You cannot possibly be this stupid.” followed almost directly by “The globalist DC establishment is stupid.“
Just like what happened repeatedly with that smarter human named Einstein, this very bright young lady “had it right the first time“.
They cannot possibly be this stupid.
Smart people are remarkably easy to fool. Particularly if you tell them they’re SMART. After that, you can deceive them in all kinds of ways. Trust me – I’m a PET. Laziest, most deceptive job on Earth. I know how this works.
Normally, Wolf doesn’t catch onto this stuff, but for some reason, this time he did. So here is what Wolf said in response. We will start from the top using IMAGES – not tweets, because eventually Girl Grimly will be banned from Twitter, and only the DNC and CIA will have access to her wisdom.
See how that works? And you people are STILL ON TWITTER. Ridiculous.
To which Wolf said (with ZERO engagement, of course)….
Social media for humans to vent, in combination with Fake News playing dumb, is an amazing control tool to keep humans in the kiddie pool. In a normal world run by household pets like me, Maggie Haberman would have been fired long ago for this crap. But she’s actually a pet to her masters, and she is intellectually lazy – ON COMMAND – to get her treats.
It really is “fake news”. It’s a way of controlling people. It is NOT real news. It’s a kind of movable jail without bars.
Anyway, despite the fact that nobody is ever going to see his postings on Twitter, Wolf rather stupidly kept yelling into the void.
Wolf made this point before – LOST in the void of TWITTER.
Thomas Wictor likes to use Hanlon’s Razor, and while Thomas is a smart person, remember what I said – SMART PEOPLE are among the easiest to fool.
Wolf’s explanation of the fallacy follows:
Wolf’s corrected maxim, “Stupidity is likely to explain misfortune where deception is highly unlikely.“, accounts for the intriguing fact that the smarter and more capable the deceiver is, relative to the deceived, the EASIER it is to rely on deception, which in the case in question would mean PLAYING DUMB. This is why deception has to be not just unlikely, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY, for Hanlon’s Razor to even BEGIN making sense. Otherwise, Hanlon’s Razor is BACKWARDS thinking.
Hanlon’s Razor….
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
….is problematic because YOUR stupidity matters even more than the PRESUMED stupidity of the potential perpetrator of “whatever”. If the other party is smarter than YOU, then they can simply FEIGN STUPIDITY and you will TAKE THE BAIT.
They have ACHIEVED COVER.
I really have to admire the remarkable LULLING that Hanlon’s Razor accomplishes. To REMEMBER this deceitful malaphorism PROPERLY, remember it being whispered into a foolish king’s ear by your tribe’s mortal enemy, whoever that may be.
“I beg of thee, your Highness – remember thy own wisdom, as I have remembered it, and dare I say been served so well by such wise thought – that we must never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
“Oh, NOES! NEVAH!”
Sheesh.
THE CHUMPHOOD. IT BURNS.
Let’s go on.
Wolf hadn’t noticed this part about “malice”, THE LAST TIME he woke up on Hanlon’s Razor, only to be lulled back into “compliance”. I’m very glad he spotted it, because the “malice” part ALWAYS grated on my nerves.
Malice is a diversion – a presumption – a shiny object – a distraction.
The sleight of hand of asserting MALICE helps to sell the LIE that is Hanlon’s Razor.
If you’ve ever dealt with real criminals, like my previous owners (yes, I’m a rescue), then you understand that they are malicious about as often as good people. They just follow a simple rule:
“The rules don’t matter if I don’t get caught breaking them.”
Crooks are actually somewhat lovable people. They have reasons for breaking the rules, just like others have reasons for following them. Malice is rarely part of the equation.
It’s hilarious, but there should be a FULL STOP in Hanlon’s Razor, the absence of which almost argues for its diabolical intelligence. We’ll use a different form that shows it more clearly:
“Never assume malice when stupidity will do.”
But look at it this far:
“Never assume malice….”
“WAYUL SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!”
You just assumed malice, as DIRECTED by the PROGRAMMING of the assertion.
Take a look at how this looks from the “perp side of the con job”….
“Never assume malice, but you just did, and your stupidity will do.”
Are you seeing this? I hope so. It really is time for you tall dogs to grow the XXXX up.
Let’s go on.
Wolf is onto the key point. Hanlon’s Razor is very useful for DELUDED SHEEP to keep themselves in line.
“Don’t worry about that bloody spot. Nobody was malicious! Somebody was just stupid!”
Do you see how this has the wonderfully deceptive property of being “not even wrong“, due to the false attribution of malicious intent from the start?
SIDEBAR:
Has anybody studied the theory of “dead-endedness” of theories, or of theoretical approaches? Would older civilizations have discovered this idea first? Would they be tempted to – well – use it, for – say – “mutual benefit”?
Just theoretically. Since we’re all talking about deception.
Think about it.
Suspicious Cat
So let’s bring this back to something we can remember and carry with us at all times.
And I’m not going to let you go to the water fountains from hour 1 of this class without some homework.
The link won’t work in the tweet image. Try these links. FIRST, a variety of translations of Matthew 10:16.
SO, go take a break, and come back to the next step – how to GO BEYOND the Mamet Principle, using Hanlon’s Broken Razor as a BEATER SCREWDRIVER.
PART 2: Beyond The Mamet Principle
OK, class. There is a reason that we’re back here.
We need to bust not just one, but TWO ideas. The problem is, the second one is actually EXTREMELY useful as a “spotting scope”, but it is NOT accurate as a RANGE-FINDER.
What I am talking about is the Mamet principle, something which was LOOSELY stated by liberal-turned-conservative playwright David Mamet.
“In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments modern liberals have to pretend not to know things…”
Sundance, paraphrasing David Mamet in his book “The Secret Knowledge”
Wolf was taught this idea by SUNDANCE at The Last Refuge. Sundance uses it A LOT. Wolf LOVES it. So much so, that he made that MEME above, which alludes to the Mamet Principle using the idea that liberals utterly ignore Uranium One and the payoffs that Hillary Clinton received, to the tune of 146 million dollars. Liberals who still support Hillary Clinton LITERALLY pretend that these things didn’t happen, and/or don’t matter. The meme is designed to make liberals UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PRETENSE.
For some background on the Mamet Principle, [Go Deep] here:
Now, recently, Wolf started to WAKE UP on an idea – the idea that one can USE the Mamet Principle like ALGEBRA to SOLVE for what liberals are ACTUALLY DOING.
This is sometimes a scary thought, as you will see. When liberals PRETEND things, it is comfortable to think that they’re just being ILLOGICAL. What is NOT comfortable is realizing that they are actually pursuing something, and that their LIES are actually LOGICAL in that pursuit.
It is very important to DIVORCE the “brain-dead fronts” themselves from the liberal propaganda. Maxine Waters and Beto O’Rourke may be fronting the illogic, but if you let them personify it, you may have trouble appreciating the STALIN or the BERIA or the HOLDER or the AXELROD behind it.
Here is Wolf on Twitter again, as he was starting to see this. Let’s track his understanding as it grows.
The left pretends not to know that shutting down THEIR AntiFa is key to solving the political violence. #Charlottesville#MametPrinciple
You can see here that Wolf was starting to get beyond the illogic – to see their LOGIC. The leftists WANT the political violence. That is a HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. It means they’re BOLSHEVIKS. It is much easier – much more comfortable – to think they’re stupid.
Their IDEAS and LYING GOALS interpreted at face value may be illogical, but the PEOPLE are not. Perhaps the “brain-dead fronts” who PARROT the ideas are illogical and stupid, but NOT the people behind the situation.
THEY HAVE A PLAN.
Now look at this two-tweet response to Thomas Wictor. You have to follow it to Twitter, to see Thomas’s “missing” tweets, all nice and linked up in a row and weirdly accounted for, yet somehow invisible. It is extremely reasonable to presume that Thomas’s TWEET DATA is still on Twitter, usable by DNC and CIA. But WE cannot see it.
It's the Mamet Principle on mega-steroids. Liberals pretend not to know.
Kristin Welker’s FACE says more than 1000 words could possibly tell us.
THEY KNOW. THEY ARE NOT STUPID. It is not illogic. WE are the ones who are being illogical about THEM. We are not admitting that this Fake News Media is absolutely NOT ON OUR SIDE – meaning HUMANITY AS WE KNOW IT – and must be UTTERLY REJECTED.
Don’t assume THEY are stupid. Look hard. Look deep. Be humble. Who is REALLY being stupid? It is only by adopting THIS attitude that we can EVICT THEM from our lives.
Consider how the media CONSCIOUSLY slanders and CONSCIOUSLY psy-ops us, while simply pretending they are not. It’s worse than phony. It’s literally CRIMINAL but they get away with it by HIDING MALICE.
Here, Wolf talks about another Wolff, that horrible author of lies and malicious slander, who “pretends not to know” that he publishes assault garbage for a political agenda. Wolf also lays into another bad practice of the left in the publishing world, while he’s at it.
The left can stop almost any book they want, LONG before it goes to press. They STEAL pitches and give them to favorites like Chelsea Clinton. But by pretending not to know it's BS (Mamet principle), they can let psy-op slander move all the way to their #FakeNews talk cycles.
Perhaps the best place that Wolf actually put his new realization to use, as he was developing it, was PARKLAND. The entire operation depended on MASSIVE PRETENSE OF IGNORANCE.
Here is the first tweet of Wolf’s LONG THREAD on it.
This is in many ways a restatement of the Mamet Principle, but it shows that at the upper echelons of leftist thought, the pretense of ignorance is used in a highly strategic manner to achieve "social justice "goals. This can and will be demonstrated by deconstructing #Parkland. https://t.co/Do2u14C6QG
It turned out that the situation was even WORSE than that.
Wolf LATER applied the Mamet Principle, and seeing beyond it, to Twitter’s shadowbanning of conservatives. Another long thread HERE:
Part of the reason we're winning is that we actually try to understand things – for example, Twitter. The left has no clue – and doesn't REALLY try to get one. Observe this leftist troll, one Bradley "I block Nazis" Duke, who thinks he understands shadowbanning, but doesn't. pic.twitter.com/mgIfZTj7IS
Here is where Wolf was starting to see the connection to Hanlon’s Razor:
Mamet principle – leftists "pretending not to know" that their STUPID actions will have the INTENDED evil consequences. Note to all rational conservatives: Leftists figured out LONG AGO that the old saw "Never attribute to malice yada yada yada" is some of the best cover EVER. https://t.co/NTkuUEj5Tgpic.twitter.com/JdSE8X0rc4
Most recently, Wolf applied this idea of “logical lies behind Mamet principle apparent illogic” in dealing with a troll, who formed part of a three-way “conversation” (sort of) with Girl Grimly:
Appreciate the support, @ed_grimly! That boy is a perfect example of what @TheLastRefuge2 calls the Mamet Principle – David Mamet's contention that leftists feign ignorance to advance illogical arguments. I take it one step further. The illogic is a byproduct of hidden LIES. pic.twitter.com/fSNqaXmMPm
The hard thing to accept is that there are many on the other side who are more or less beyond redemption. We can influence those on the left who have accepted leftist positions due to many positive motivations, but not those who are deceptive by nature and fully love the lie. pic.twitter.com/AUsqYfK3RI
It’s very simple. DO NOT assume that the leftists are stupid. Yes, some of them ARE stupid, and THEY are the ones who make excellent FRONTS – a deception that buys time and opportunity for the more devious leftists.
When liberals “pretend not to know things”, don’t stop there. They are PLAYING STUPID or fronting a stupid position, but it is not the REAL position. Their stated goals are not the REAL goals.
FIND the real goals and STOP THEM from getting there.
Here is an actual plan of action.
when you hear illogic, realize that they pretend not to know
ask yourself why they would LOGICALLY do what they do
figure out what the LIE actually is, and WHY they are lying
explain the lie OPENLY to truth-tellers, to DISARM the left
work with other truth-tellers to END the source of the illogic
A perfect example of this technique, is how we shut down the Obama-Holder “Promise Programs” that were destroying due process (Trayvon Martin) and creating propaganda such as the Parkland massacre. The left had pretended not to know what was happening. We had to figure out what WAS happening – what the LIES actually were – and then STATE THEM OPENLY.
It was identifying the CONSPIRACY OF FEIGNED STUPIDITY and LIES behind #Parkland that put the Promise Programs in jeopardy.
find the indefensible reality behind the lies and illogic
accuse the left openly of the indefensible reality
This ROCKTOBER [11] [NON-PLACEHOLDER] [NIGHT OF DAUGHN] [RELIEF PITCHER WOLF] [RALLY CELEBRATION] [TRUMP RALLY] FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
There’s nothing like a Trump rally.
More that that, every one is special in its own way. I have been to a number, and have seen many more.
We are privileged beyond measure to experience them.
This ROCKTOBER [08] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Autumn. Two years ago, we were fighting back HARD. I remember. Interesting times.
We’re still here. And we’re still not budging.
Where We Go One, We Go All.
W
ADDENDUM:
Well, I happen to be here tonight, so I decided to add some commentary to my placeholder daily post.
I wanted to talk about CULTURAL MARXISM…..
Apparently this new “Joker” movie is the height of cultural Marxism:
I am also discovering just how evil these people are, by watching, long-term, how the Googloid Mensheviks at YouTube are influencing my WIFE with their product. I wish that I could say they are merely “attempting to influence her”, but the fact is, they are ACTUALLY influencing her. It is INSIDIOUS. And I now have PROOF OF IT, that will stand up in court. I only await STANDING. I’m hoping not to actually GET standing, but just in case, I predict that standing would be a TRANSFORMATIVE opportunity for MORAL and ETHICAL tech, shall we say.
If I were not AWARE of how cultural Marxism works in general, in the large, on society, I would never have caught on to how it works on individual people, which I’ve had to theorize from deep study of serial killers, school shooters, false flag patsies, Marxist radicals, and the like. I had to catch up with a lot of secret CIA psychological research, done over many decades.
Cutting the cable was ESSENTIAL to see it. This is why cutting the cable is such a danger to CIA, Hollywood, and the cultural Marxists that have infested BOTH. Cutting the cable gives one true societal perspective, sharp and clear – even down to a personal level. By cutting the cable, I am not subject to the moral creep of “Fake Normal” which is promoted by the mind control media. Instead, I can SEE THAT CREEP.
Now, watching YouTube work on my wife over time, I am not being shifted along with “Fake Normal” and “Fake Reality”, and she is only being shifted by YouTube and a couple of mild PBS shows. I can see how cultural Marxist mass media CHANGES HER.
It is SURPRISINGLY FAST. Shockingly fast. Horrifyingly fast.
Technology, quite simply, CANNOT be trusted to these people.
The tech monopolies MUST be destroyed, to create healthy alternatives for mankind.
W
On another note, 10/10 is in 2 days. Did you know that 1010 (base 2) = 10 (base 10)? Fun fact.
Anyway, be ready.
Last but not least, we have THREE rallies coming up. 10/10, 10/11, 10/Q.
I keep shilling this book that I love to criticize as a CIA cover-up, but my motivation isn’t just because if you read it backwards and inside-out, it’s like a roadmap to REAL MK, and its amazing tale of [re]discovery.
It is also a testament to the GENIUS of Sidney Gottlieb, who scapegoated his brilliant early project to save the final result.
And if only the socialist ASSHOLES who inherited it hadn’t killed 58 people in Las Vegas using this stuff, I would not be enlightening everybody as to what the heck is going on.
But then, it is rapidly becoming apparent to me that Kinzer’s book, STRAIGHT OUT OF THE FAILING NEW YORK TIMES, is a desperate attempt at CYA by the socialist / “whatever” Deep State to cover up recent ABUSES of MK ULTRA, in their DESPERATE attempts to remove President Trump.
DON’T. TURN. AWAY.
Yes. Courtesy of those who very soon “won’t be able to walk the streets”, as SOMEBODY PUT IT.
So let’s get back to the topic at hand.
I was at 25% of the way through this book when I made my LAST update. Well, guess what – I am now at 28% and I’ve got another huge post.
I keep telling people – GET THIS BOOK!
So what is the big deal here? What is in the magical “3%” that blew my mind?
THREE THINGS.
First off, this.
It is becoming clear to me that, FAR from some hodgepodge program of desperate grabs for anything “mind control”, MK ULTRA was SMART SHOPPING by a SMART SCIENTIST.
Now, why would I come to this assessment, against all the disinformation and shill messaging to the contrary?
Well, mostly because (1) I’ve been inside scientific research, so I know how quality investigation looks from the inside, but (2) I’ve been OUTSIDE of scientific research, thus able to LOOK IN, and (3) I’m a huge devotee of the HISTORY OF MODERN SCIENCE, and view it as not just worthy in itself, but essential for young scientists, to develop a healthy and moral outlook, understanding the need for openness and honesty above all else.
EVERY TIME that Kinzer points out some new subproject of MK ULTRA, I just have to marvel at how SMART Sidney Gottlieb was in going after what MK ULTRA would eventually become.
It’s ALL RATIONAL, FOLKS. It all makes SENSE.
Yes, if you take any one of his highly compartmentalized, funded projects by itself, it may look like a bit of a WTF in the pursuit of MK. The thing is, *I* know what the final product looked like – remarkably similar to exactly what Sidney Gottlieb was pursuing. So I look at all the pieces, and I see that they are SMART PIECES.
The kind of mental dissociation I experienced – exact as a scalpel – precise as a laser – part of a complex whole that allowed a fantastic “surgery of the mind” – in frigging 1981 – I mean I can see every part of MK ULTRA research leading RIGHT TO IT. If it were not for a “medical error” – or more truthfully a compounding of them – ONE TIME – we would not be having this conversation.
ONE FRIGGING MOLECULE – a stray thought that I had, as part of an “error of subject consciousness” – was all it took to eventually reveal Sidney Gottlieb’s genius achievement.
Second point.
It is clear to me that Kinzer is relying on leftist, NYT, Deep State, CIA, Fake News memes and viewpoints in his interpretation of this stuff. We are talking what might be called “Charlottesville narrative viewpoint”. This is where you show people two hoops, black and white, and they jump through black “because black”. You show them male and female and they jump through female “because wymyn”. You show them whatever the left has said – possibly without openly saying – is the preferred hoop, and they jump through it.
CONDITIONED RESPONSE.
It is impossible to see the world clearly if you have conditioned PC blind spots of right or left. It takes PRACTICE to get around them – to RESIST them.
This is something that makes true free speech a real gift.
I can THINK all sorts of possibilities because of it. Many of which ALMOST NOBODY can think of.
Most of you out there will agree with the idea that Israel’s future and well-being depend on AMERICA. But how many of you can see that AMERICA’S future and well-being depend on ISRAEL?
Most of you will automatically look at the MK ULTRA criminal drug volunteers in prison as victims. I can do that, easily. But how many of you can view them as heroes?
Most of you, whether you will admit it or not, have been so bombarded with the idea that black people are less intelligent than whites, using all sorts of metrics, that you undoubtedly suspect at some level that it might be true. But I will assure you – if you start looking to discover why it might not be true – and I don’t mean in a virtue signal way – NONE of the stuff that the Deep State and controlled left offer on this – you will be led to SHOCKING realizations on the nature of intelligence itself, and how it is defined, expressed, perceived, and how it perceives US. You may at first by disturbed by things, but – trust me – you will eventually be comforted. This stuff was well-designed at the most basic levels. There is CONSERVATION and SYMMETRY that make it all work out BEAUTIFULLY.
FREEING YOUR MIND TO SEE ALL SIDES TOGETHER IS TOUGH. But that is the only way to have a MORE GODLY [notice I did not say “god-like”] view of the universe.
SO – with that hopeful MIND JOLT, let’s go on.
Third point.
Whitey Bulger was an MK ULTRA volunteer.
Yes.
In 1957, when Bulger was just a twenty-something armed robbery thug, but not yet a murderer, imprisoned in the Atlanta federal penitentiary, he was RECRUITED to be an MK ULTRA volunteer. He thought it was ONLY a medical project looking for a cure for schizophrenia. It may have been that, but we now know so much more about it.
The details are interesting, as are details from other volunteers. It is clear that there was a lot of wheedling done to get people to stay in these mind-bending programs. One participant endured terrible high doses of LSD just to get a promised shot of HEROIN.
Bulger was told he was one of the best subjects. However, I get the impression that all the docs told that to all the boys, so to speak. Bet the nurses were pretty fine-lookin’ ladies, too.
Hey – I’ve been around the block. I wasn’t born yesterday, either.
Bulger’s own previous memoirs are cited by Kinzer, so this is totally confirmed stuff.
This is an astounding bit of information, but it makes sense. Maybe it’s been out there for a while, but it was news to me.
And HERE is where I get to thank “principles” from history which first connected Adolph Hitler with Saddam Hussein, and ultimately with Barack “By The Book” Obama.
I believe LEGAL CONSENT and LEGALISMS are part and parcel of the CHOOSING of people to study, test, use and abuse (and then get utterly lost in) the “MK world of human bottery”.
SO – just because Bulger is known to have been part of the LSD experimentation, does NOT mean that it all ends there. I may find out more in the remaining 72% of the Kinzer book. Or I may find out more from other sources.
REMEMBER – part of the overall MK project – which we KNOW from Sidney Gottlieb – was the desire to know if people could do things, up to and including KILLING PEOPLE – maybe OTHER PEOPLE – maybe THEMSELVES.
Can you think of a BETTER reason to get rid of Whitey Bulger NOW? What information might he have revealed – in a BELIEVABLE WAY – about MK ULTRA and its GOALS?
If you read Kinzer’s book, then you may very well ask yourself if these goals ever went away.
If you read my posts here, then you may very well ask yourself if these goals were achieved.
I proclaim it loud and clear I proclaim it now and here God be praised and bless the men Women, grannies, dear children Whoever in the hell it be Who gave this song to you and me
Twas a lad named dear Cthulhu Who gave its tune to me and you Twas a dream, I swear it be That gave this line to you and me: We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
Fields a-burstin’ with their pride Be there shame if any died Turn the bitter Kool-Aid down Let not man nor baby frown We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
When I saw dear girl’s lament Babies’ blood to be our rent I tore my pockets, thanking God Greatest op of dear Mossad We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
For twas clear this mad appeal Born to kill the Green New Deal Came from somewhere high above Born of God’s eternal love We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
For though it might be CIA Or Putin’s girls in their sweet way We shan’t be picky who it was Whose hand that devil’s work undoes We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
So praise all spies and saboteurs Stealthy girl provocateurs Those who made my own life hell But saved our babies good and well We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
A million years, or maybe two There’s no rush, I dare tell you For God constructs where others steal And fool us with their Green New Deal We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
A viper’s plan as Irish spring A devil’s trick as papal thing Let Tree of Life bring huggers down Let babies smile, their buggers frown We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow
And thus I bid you now good bye And walk off into fields of rye And leave you with this sage advice That Earth shall bloom as long there’s rice We don’t have to eat them now Let them live and grow somehow.
I had no idea that Justin Raimondo had died. I was wondering why I never saw his tweets any more. Usually it was REPLIES to famous people, sometimes as retweets, where Justin would show up in my Twitter feed. SMART, insightful, replies or retweets, taking people to task for positions that were going to get us into another Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan.
I quickly scanned down his old timeline. It has been fully taken over by the staff at AntiWar, who now bring back some of Justin’s old columns, and keep his memory alive.
One of the tweets led me to this great article.
Well worth a read. Particularly if you believe my almost unbelievable theory that Justin’s strong and unwavering support of Trump, and his influence over the “intellectual libertarian and antiwar” segment of the potential Trump bloc, was ESSENTIAL to Trump’s victory in 2016.
The first place I ever read this guy was some guest column on WorldNetDaily during the Clinton administration. Justin was a gay conservative who looked like “the Fonz” and had his own website (kind of a big deal back then) called “AntiWar.com“. Well, it wasn’t really “his” site, but he was the Freddie Mercury of AntiWar. It sometimes SEEMED like his site. And yet, it was all about ANTI-WAR – not about him.
Justin was respected by Joseph Farah of WND – and that was enough for me. I paid attention. Justin and Joseph didn’t always agree, but they both cared enough to agree or disagree with each other, outside the stifling chorus of UniParty shills who kept up the FAKE NEWS that neither one had time for.
One of Justin’s best articles – the one that I never forgot – was the one where he took the entire LGBT movement to task for calling gay “normal”. His position was utterly logical. Gays have rights like everybody else, but the reason they are a minority – and a small one at that – is because they are FAR from “normal”. To call gays “normal” was, to him, robbing the very essence of what gays were – DIFFERENT. It was not just illogical to Justin to try to “normalize” gayness – it was DISHONEST.
See why I might like this guy? BRUTAL honesty – even with himself.
But “gay” was not the big issue to Justin. It was a minor aspect of his life – a reality that he simply dealt with, and accepted as a libertarian. The big issue for Justin Raimondo was WAR. But NOT as a typical libertarian. Raimondo was – oddly – very conservative for a libertarian, more so for a gay one. Justin was also too tough to be a simple peacenik, yet he wasn’t one of those horrible “bully pacifists”, either. He considered himself a “conservative paleo-libertarian” – which I interpret as going back to the most “limited government and keep the HELL out of foreign entanglements” people of all – the FOUNDERS.
And Raimondo had that same SPUNK that the Founders did. A kind of patient and determined yet hopeful RELENTLESSNESS – a refusal to give up. In that era, he would have fought alongside my own DAR ancestor against the British. He would have simply kept his “odd affections” a secret. Well, who knows. Maybe not. But he would have been a PATRIOT either way.
And YES, the idea of an ANTI-WAR patriot is somewhat contradictory, but then, so much of this nation’s founding BRILLIANCE was contradictory – back when were had discernment, and didn’t all have to believe exactly the same things to be patriotic Americans.
Justin was very similar to Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Pat Buchanan, and other libertarians and paleo-conservatives on the idea of war. And – unlike me – he was NOT FOOLED by the Bush clan.
But after George W. Bush, Justin would make the same mistake as me – voting for Obama in 2008. I think we did it for the same reason. McCain was itching to get us into a war. We both knew it. McCain helped sell Obama – exactly as intended.
Justin was a TRUMP supporter from the beginning, too, because he remembered Trump’s stand on IRAQ. This is EXACTLY where I was, too. There were many times that I retweeted Justin in his defenses of Trump, or tried to echo his wisdom to my followers.
And Raimondo was NOT A FAN of Crooked Hillary. NOT AT ALL.
Justin was a WEE bit too automatically defensive of Russia for my taste, but he was not a dupe. I could respect him when his anti-war knee jerked in time with the Kremlin’s, because I knew it was still under his control.
There were, however, times that I strategically backed Trump on bringing neocons into his campaign or administration, which is something Justin could never stand. Justin could NEVER believe that association with John Bolton was a good idea, even merely as a spokesperson and media ally of Trump. However, Justin was a kind soul, and he simply held his tongue when I tried to convince him that it would all be OK – that Trump could handle Bolton.
The thing is, I don’t think Justin TRUSTED Trump in the same way I did, and that fact is, at its core, probably RELIGIOUS. Trump, Pence, myself, and most other Trumpers TRUST GOD TOGETHER, so we tend to TRUST EACH OTHER. That makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Justin was raised a Roman Catholic, but he later described himself as “not a believer”, per Wikipedia.
However, if one goes back to THIS article about Pope John Paul II, and gives it a read……
…..one sees a few hints that “you can take the boy out of the church, but you can’t take the church out of the boy“.
So who knows. I would love to once again have the opportunity to celebrate the amazing, glorious, common-sense and ANTI-WAR Trump administration with Justin Raimondo on some ethereal form of Twitter.
After all, they say that with God, all things are possible.
This ROCKTOBER [01] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
This month of ROCKTOBER is dedicated to our ROCK STAR President DJT.
HOWEVER….
The first day of this month is the 2-year anniversary of the scurrilous attack on MAGA, America, and all that is good and just in this world, at Las Vegas.
I read EVERY one of the autopsies.
The TRUTH that they could not hide – that they could not distort – that they could not flood with their PUTRID DISINFORMATION – failed to save the PLOTTERS from JUSTICE.
WE DO NOT FORGET.
WE DO NOT FORGIVE.
NOT UNTIL THERE IS JUSTICE.
We have not forgotten.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
So here we are. After a month of HOT AUGUST, and seeing LIGHT overcome DARKNESS in LIGHT IN SEPTEMBER, we arrive at ROCKTOBER.
Be part of it. Bring your wisdom, your talents, your opinions, your investigations, your prayers, and your hopes to this thread.
