“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This HOT AUGUST [21] [PLACEHOLDER] WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
Here we go!
August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
This HOT AUGUST [20] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
Here we go!
August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
Thanks to our QTreeper realsauce who posted a great Tom Petty video, Won’t Back Down, here: LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/speech-protecting-the-red-flags/comment-page-1/#comment-230851 Suddenly I remembered one of my FAVORITE videos of all times – the one where Tom Petty understood FAKE NEWS, FAKE ENTERTAINMENT, FAKE SCIENCE and FAKE HISTORY literally DECADES before we did. Here are the original lyrics, …
Wolf, August 15, 2019
It didn’t end there. Thursday night, I thought about doing ANOTHER “audio visual” production like it, using another great song. However, I stopped myself. I knew it WASN’T ENOUGH.
Yes, it would have been powerful, but it was not going to WIN. It was not getting DEEP ENOUGH on the problem. Not deep enough to MAKE THIS MOVEMENT SUCCEED. And I believe that each of us needs to FIND WHAT IT IS that we can do to make this movement WIN and WIN BIGLY.
Maybe I’ll come back and do that musical “meme-stream” someday. But not tonight.
There is something welling up in me – a kind of urge to scream FUCK YOU at the people who have screwed up this world by TAKING what was not theirs – who used not only RIDICULE, but DECEPTION and TRICKERY to grab the steering world of this planet and drive it into a kind of ongoing TRAIN WRECK, from which, instead of accepting their own mistakes, they merely demanded MORE POWER and MORE CONTROL.
Do you know what I’m saying? What I am feeling is RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION.
This isn’t merely an intellectual argument – it’s a CULTURAL ARGUMENT – an EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT – even a SELF-CRITICAL ARGUMENT – an argument grounded in our FAILURE to engage the enemy – an enemy which mocks us from the TRASH HEAP of their own mistakes.
These people deserve FAR WORSE than what we have the RIGHT to do – which is to THROW THEIR ASSES off of their trash heap of not just mistakes, but LIES, TRICKS, and CRIMES – and FORCE THEM to help us clean it all up.
THERE. Now that I’ve GOTTEN THAT OUT – it’s time for STORK to BITCHSLAP MY ASS.
Now – I could put that in the hilarious context of the original movie, and THAT is, indeed, part of the answer.
But let’s not go there yet. Someday, perhaps, in a full post. The cultural deconstruction of Animal House over time is a great way to look at both cultural Marxism and reaction to it, as BOTH are embodied in the film. And THAT is something we need to understand. But not right now.
Tonight, I was going through replies in my notifications, and thinkthinkthink pointed out a video which is, ultimately, the whole point of this post.
This is a STILL from the video. Clicking on it won’t make it play. Nevertheless, the image is worth a closer look in zoom.
If there is NO OTHER 1-hour video that you watch this year, then I would recommend that THIS BE THE ONE.
This is possibly the SMARTEST discussion on the right since the 2016 primaries.
What you have here are two of the GREATEST intellects and culture warriors on our side not quite agreeing on things – maybe even not quite getting each other. What results is FAR, FAR BETTER than if they were just high-fiving each other in total understanding. They are trying to convince each other of two perspectives of the SAME THING, and what that paints is a STEREOSCOPIC PICTURE of a NEUTRON BOMB for WINNING THE CULTURE WAR.
What that thing is, is CORE ANDREW BREITBART. Eventually, Bannon actually brings up Breitbart, and recommends Righteous Indignation as the must-read book for this moment, and particularly for a deep understanding of cultural Marxism.
There was a film back in the day – My Dinner with Andre – that was one of those artworks you never forget. This was 1981 – three years after Animal House. The movie is just two people talking about things that have nothing to do with the setting, so you have to use your imagination to tap into the RICHNESS of what they are talking about. AND IT WORKS – in a huge way.
There is a person you never see – central to the discussion – who is like the THIRD STAR. Not exactly a new technique – both Shakespeare and Hitchcock loved it. But when the cast is this small, it has a wonderful effect. It is DEEPLY SATISFYING.
THIS video of Candace and Steve has the same effect. And what is even more wonderful, is that – along with the “stars” of this video, you get to “discover” that the je ne sais quoi they are trying to put their finger on actually IS Andrew Breitbart himself.
WE NEED ANDREW. And we need him NOW.
NOW – before I make everybody RUN AWAY in horror, thinking this video is merely some kind of “rightstream intellectual art flick bullshit“, let me confidently estimate that there are HUNDREDS of game-changing and actionable political ideas here, that will make a huge difference in winning not just 2020, but 2024 and 2028. So THIS NEEDS TO BE WATCHED. By as many people on our side as possible.
But savor it. You don’t see stuff like this every day.
It’s bizarre as hell. These two geniuses could be talking on a park bench in New York City, a dock in Florida, or a picnic table in Wyoming. The setting doesn’t matter. Yeah, the border figures into some of what they talk about, but ignore it. The TRUTH of what they’re saying – especially toward the END – is amazing.
This HOT AUGUST [16] [PLACEHOLDER] FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
Here we go!
August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
Suddenly I remembered one of my FAVORITE videos of all times – the one where Tom Petty understood FAKE NEWS, FAKE ENTERTAINMENT, FAKE SCIENCE and FAKE HISTORY literally DECADES before we did.
Here are the original lyrics, as nearly as I can tweak them to the ad libs of the video:
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers Lyrics
“Jammin’ Me”
You got me in a corner You got me against the wall I got no – where to go I got no – where to fall
Take back your insurance Baby nothin’s guaranteed Take back your acid rain, baby Let your T.V. bleed
You’re jammin’ me You’re jammin’ me Quit jammin’ me Hey you can keep me painted in a corner You can look away, but it’s not over
You’re jammin’ me
Take back your angry slander Take back your pension plan Take back your ups and downs of Your life in raisin-land
Take back Vanessa Redgrave Take back Joe Piscopo Take back Eddie Murphy Give ’em all some place to go
You’re jamming me You’re jamming me Quit jammin‘ me Yeah you can keep me painted in a corner You can walk away, but it’s not over
Take back your Iranian torture And the apple in young Steve’s eye Yeah take back your losing streak Check your front wheel drive
You’re jammin’ me You’re jammin’ me Quit jammin’ me
Take back Pasadena Take back El Salvador Take back that country club they’re Tryin’ to build outside my door
You’re jammin’ me You’re jammin’ me Quit jammin’ me Baby you can keep me painted in a corner You can walk away, but it’s not over
Oh you’re jammin’ me Quit jammin’ me You’re jammin’ me
Well, you know what?
Time for an update.
STAND BACK!
Wolf Moon And The Deplorables Lyrics
“Scammin’ Me”
(Try playing the song while you read – it really helps!)
You got us in a corner
You got us against the wall
We got no – where to go
We got no – where to fall
Take back your crap insurance
With Obama’s guarantee
Take back your global warming
‘Cause we cut our T.V.s free
You’re scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
Hey you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over
You’re scammin’ me
Take back your patsy killers
Take back your gun grab plan
Take back your mind control of
Your lies in razor-land
Take back your crooked Clintons
Take back your fraud named O
Take back Loretta Comey
Give ’em all some place to go
You’re scamming me
You’re scamming me
Quit scammin’ me
Yeah you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over
Take back your Iranian cash grab
And our Apple as Tim Cook’s spy
Yeah take back your losing wars
Based upon your lie
You’re scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
Take back your Venezuela
Take back Paul Manafort
Take back your city slackers
You’re tryin’ so hard to import
You’re scammin’ me
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) were joined by Democratic lawmakers from both the House and Senate on February 7, 2019, to introduce Green New Deal legislation.
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
Baby you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over
Oh you’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Wolf Moon And The Deplorables Lyrics
“Scammin’ Me”
You got us in a corner You got us against the wall We got no – where to go We got no – where to fall
Take back your crap insurance With Obama’s guarantee Take back your global warming ‘Cause we cut our T.V.s free
You’re scammin’ me You’re scammin’ me Quit scammin’ me Hey you can keep us punched in a corner But we will walk away, and it’s not over
You’re scammin’ me
Take back your patsy killers Take back your gun grab plan Take back your mind control of Your lies in razor-land
Take back your crooked Clintons Take back your fraud named O Take back Loretta Comey Give ’em all some place to go
You’re scamming me You’re scamming me Quit scammin‘ me Yeah you can keep us punched in a corner But we will walk away, and it’s not over
Take back your Iranian cash grab And our Apple as Tim Cook’s spy Yeah take back your losing wars Based upon your lie
You’re scammin’ me You’re scammin’ me Quit scammin’ me
Take back your Venezuela Take back Paul Manafort Take back your city slackers You’re tryin’ so hard to import
You’re scammin’ me You’re scammin’ me Quit scammin’ me Baby you can keep us punched in a corner But we will walk away, and it’s not over
Oh you’re scammin’ me Quit scammin’ me You’re scammin’ me
Wolf Moon, 2019
The words are yours. The music is presumably somebody else’s. Enjoy.
Today, at [roughly] the MIDWAY point of our HOT AUGUST month of BATTLE, I break protocol and give you MOAR than just our good friend and mascot JAMES COBURN.
American actor James Coburn (1928 – 2002) smoking a cigarette. (Photo by Harry Benson/Getty Images)
Indeed, this Daily Thread is now something of a BATTLE POST – one of those FIGHTING POSTS – delivering PAIN and DEFEAT to our ENEMIES – one of those posts which are now the object of my creating a full month of placeholder daily threads.
You will note that I am not the only one creating battle posts. THAT was intended as well.
Whether it’s the daily ammo of the News Roundup, Psychological R&R, a relaxing Tree, The Word of God, Monday Coffee, some new intelligence into enemies like Google, or something yet to be, WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL.
Let me be frank. I wasn’t supposed to be here. Beginning with President Trump’s AMAZING RALLY in Cincinnati, I was planning to be GONE. The WHOLE month of August.
And then, a SNEAK ATTACK on America.
‘You see the guy in the FIRST picture, leading the PATSY into PROPAGANDA BATTLE?
The guy in the BLACK, PROFESSIONAL, TACTICAL GEAR?
The guy who disappeared into FAKE HISTORY, leaving only the PROPAGANDA of LONE SHOOTER and GUN CONTROL?
THAT is the ENEMY.
THAT is why we have NEW ORDERS.
Things can never be the same. We KNOW that the EVIL of Las Vegas continues, unabated.
It has NOT been contained. It is NOT giving up. It is not yet DESTROYED.
We don’t have to know EVERYTHING about our enemy – just this.
They are enemies of TRUTH, of GOD, and of ALL THAT IS GOOD.
The killer leading the PATSY is HIMSELF a PATSY – a patsy to those who create propaganda weapons to DISARM THIS WORLD for THEIR OWN ENSLAVEMENT OF HUMANS.
THEIR PROPAGANDA MURDERS WILL NOT STAND.
The Universe itself cries out against their foul abuse, and assures us that JUSTICE COMES.
No matter what happens, WE will be part of that justice.
Q said this is a movie. If so, then not every moment of a movie is happy. Not every moment is thrilling. Not every moment is winning. And yet, in the end, there IS winning, and there is winning because of ALL THAT WENT BEFORE.
I never thought there would be a day when we would have to FIGHT for the TRUTH – when forces of LIES and DECEPTION would so OPENLY try to turn this world toward UNJUSTIFIED, UNTRUE and DECEPTIVE ideas, using methods which respect NOTHING we value.
And yet, FROM THAT ERROR, TRUTH comes rushing forward in even greater power, because we see the ADDED TRUTH of ERROR REVEALED.
It is a good month to fight.
Prepare for more battles. They’re coming.
Put on your spiritual armor. We’re not finished.
There is more winning to be done.
W
We now return you to your normal placeholder.
This HOT AUGUST [15] [PLACEHOLDER] THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
Here we go!
August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
Let me put the KILL SHOT on these “red flag laws” right up front.
Hard to read that graphic. Let’s make things just a bit more clear.
Now you MAY be saying “BUT WOLF – THAT’S NOT THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THAT’S THE *FIRST* AMENDMENT!“
To which I say “EXACTLY.“
Here is the explanation. It is, for lack of a better metaphor, how the Second Amendment and the First Amendment PEACEFULLY protect each other – by saying WWG1WGA.
Any “red flag law” that doesn’t EXPLICITLY PROTECT – better still EXCLUDE – all Constitutionally protected speech, beliefs, associations, and assembly, is not worth the paper that it’s written on.
The reason is that, absent explicit protections and exclusions, such laws may be interpreted in practice to deny citizens of their First Amendment freedoms – particularly SPEECH – by construing protected activities to be in conflict with other rights – specifically our SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
(This stuff used to be common knowledge before American crypto-Sovietism, by the way.)
This has often been referred to as a “chilling effect” – a sneaky form of infringement which is typically brought forth under the guise of laws utterly unrelated to speech, religion, or other First Amendment-protected activities. Enemies of First Amendment exercise will “hold other rights hostage” in a way that “chills” our claim to those First Amendment rights, lest we see the OTHER rights denied or potentially infringed. In almost ALL these cases, the parties backing such laws desire to infringe on BOTH freedoms, but will take either one, by constructing a FAILED law which puts them into apparent conflict.
The Constitution says NO – there IS no valid conflict, and if you are attempting to create one, even accidentally, then you are creating UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
Wolf Moon, Annoying Patriot, and Son of the American Revolution
SO BTFO, COMMUNISTS!
Republican lawmakers who think it necessary to have such “red flag” laws should TAKE NOTE before signing them. An ABSENCE of explicit Constitutional protections of SPEECH is, in my humble opinion, sufficient reason to veto ANY such legislation.
Our GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump, has personally given a demonstration of how this works, in a joking (well…. who knows…..) tweet. AND I QUOTE:
Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!
There you have it – the REALITY of “red flag” laws for millions of wonderful, trustworthy, but perhaps “not careful with their tongues” Americans. INCLUDING CHRIS CUOMO! Who I don’t particularly like, but whose rights to angrily argue and own a gun I will defend to the DEATH!
The responses were uniformly BRUTAL for red flag laws.
SO – let’s look at this more closely.
Is Jack Posobiec right? Are “red flag” laws unconstitutional?
In my opinion, red flag laws CAN be constitutional. But I am not even sure if ANY of the existing ones are. And THAT is scary.
Ohio is proposing a red flag law which is designed to avoid many of the pitfalls of existing red flag laws. But even the proposed Ohio law really “needs some work”, in my opinion.
First of all, red flag laws need to respect both the SECOND and FOURTH Amendments.
Here is Dick Heller, of the famous Heller case, talking to OAN about this:
The SECOND Amendment is rather obvious. The FOURTH Amendment is more concerned with warrants, seizure of property, and probable cause – all of which are made more sketchy in red flag laws, when a JUDGE has not actually reviewed the evidence with opposing counsel present. THINK FISA COURT. Gun SEIZURE without the ability to challenge it IMMEDIATELY or better still BEFOREHAND is an idea that does not sit well with this here critter.
Now WOLF MOON – who thinks SCOTUS got the “gay marriage” thing all wrong by not using the FIRST AMENDMENT to protect both gay marriage AND polygamy, is often in the habit of picking DIFFERENT Amendments to defend freedoms. This time is NO DIFFERENT.
Yes, I agree with the Second and the Fourth, but I believe that the SIXTH and the FIRST are also very important here. We’ve talked about the FIRST – what about the SIXTH?
Some people might be A-OK with the idea of just giving up their guns, not being arrested, and arguing about it all later, but NOT THIS HERE WOLF.
“I WANT AN ARRESS!”
In fact. to be completely clear, I want an arrest, and a hearing with MY LAWYER and a JUDGE, and I want it BEFORE my guns are taken. This gives me my MAXIMUM rights under BOTH the Fourth and the Sixth Amendments.
Trust me – THIS OPTION is the most Constitutional of all. I will have WAIVED NO RIGHTS in picking this option.
SO – let me summarize. In my opinion, a potentially Constitutional red flag law must:
not take away my stringently guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights without due cause
respect the due processes of the 4th Amendment in a HUGE and optimal way
explicitly guarantee my FULL 1st Amendment rights, NEVER using protected speech, beliefs, or activities in any fashion to take away my 2nd Amendment rights
better still, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE all 1st Amendment protected things, including speech, writings, religion, beliefs, assembly, associations, and memberships
allow arrest without seizure and a prompt hearing with legal representation, for MAXIMUM 4th and 6th Amendment rights
include strong deterrents for abuse in BOTH criminal AND civil law
Are you starting to see how much difference current red flag laws have from this ideal, with the ideal probably passing review by SCOTUS, and current laws actually being somewhat doubtful?
I’m kinda thinking Jack Posobiec is right.
NOW – let’s look at an example. This will demonstrate both the Constitutional requirements AND how SAFE a properly constructed “red flag” law could actually be – if enforced HONESTLY by HONEST law enforcement, including an HONEST FBI (cough, cough, COUGH, COUGH).
I have a person who believes in a CRAZY RELIGION. The crazy religion says that in order to go to heaven, one has to defend the religion violently against all non-believers, cutting off their heads. This person goes online and AGREES WITH ALL THIS, repeats it, and argues vociferously and ANGRILY for it, because he is a MUSLIM.
But in real life, he’s a nice guy, and has never even struck anybody.
Sorry – according to WOLF’S version of a CONSTITUTIONAL red flag law, this guy cannot even be “red-flagged”, and if anybody tries it, Peaceful Angry Muslim has grounds to SUE.
Like it or not, what YOU consider “crazy beliefs” are PROTECTED by the First Amendment.
Even VIOLENT BELIEFS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN HATE SPEECH and ANGRY SPEECH are protected by the First Amendment.
Even HATE GROUP ASSOCIATIONS and MEMBERSHIPS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN CRAZY SPEECH AND BELIEFS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Violent actions are NOT protected.
So Violent-Talking Angry Muslim who never hurts anybody gets his gun.
Are we done yet? Can we still SAFELY have “red flag” laws with all these Constitutional protections and restraints?
Sadly, the answer is NO.
No, because the HOLDER/MUELLER/LYNCH/COMEY FBI – still politicized as hell, is DESPERATELY pushing for those unconstitutional, Nazi-style laws of the LEFT…..
Check out this FBI political move against 1A/2A in Ohio. Bust a kid in mom's basement for ranting about Waco (as in, protected speech), and then count MOM and DAD'S GUNS and AMMO in the "horrifying" numbers.
Here is the article. I URGE YOU TO READ IT – especially between the lines. You will see how this is 99% propaganda of the moment. Digging up old posts to push for NAZI gun laws.
They took this kid’s PARENTS’ GUNS to spice up the numbers, took his posts to paint him as a danger, and DESPERATELY tried to create a SECOND PUNCH after DUBIOUS DAYTON.
Only – well – it’s kind of a FAIL.
This is exactly the political stuff that the now-ruined CLINTON-OBAMA FBI pulled on President Trump. So do you know what I think now?
I think there is excellent reason to believe that the HOLDER FBI has been pulling ALL of these sketchy gun-ban propaganda mass shootings. The only difference here is that they’re running low on “MK specials” who can be manipulated into pulling off their shit. So they’re resorting to backing up their DAYTON SATAN mass shooter with a KID who – wonder of wonders – lives in the same state.
SAD, SAD, SAD.
This is why red flag laws are communist bullshit. They are not only of sketchy probable FBI / Deep State origin and definite FBI propaganda backing – they are simply TOO ABUSABLE.
Sorry – even if I saw a red flag law that EXCEEDED my recommendations here, I tend to believe that it would STILL BE ABUSED by political elements in the FBI.
This HOT AUGUST [14] [PLACEHOLDER] WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
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No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
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August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
This HOT AUGUST [13] [PLACEHOLDER] TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Don’t mind if we do a little escape act here….
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SAY IT LOUD, AND SAY IT PROUD!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Let’s see if we can tell this story in James Coburn pictures. You ready?
Here we go!
August is going to be an interesting month.
Oh yeah? Just HOW interesting, we might ask.
Well, based on the LEAD-UP, I’d say we’re gonna see some enemy action.
Actors Henry Fonda and James Coburn on the set of Universal Studios movie ” Midway” in 1976. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
OK. Should we be worried?
HA! You’re kidding – right?
Nope. We are gonna WIN this sucker.
Nevertheless, we have to be careful.
We have to be smart.
We have to be cool.
We definitely have to be wary.
Some of us may have to be a bit stealthy.
Some of us may simply be on vacation.
Others may not simply be on vacation.
We have to stay strong….
But we also have to have some fun!
Now in the periodic, random, unpredictable, and unexplained absences of GROWLING, SNARLING WOLVES….
There may be what seem like explosive situations….
However, we believe that higher powers….
And FAITH IN PEACE and IN OURSELVES….
Are all we need to WIN and WIN BIG in this GIFT of a lovingly designed universe.
So stick around for a GOOD TIME.
ENJOY THE SHOW!
Maybe have some POPCORN!
I mean – who KNOWS how much winning there will be?
