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KMAG DAILY THREAD 20261007 — America in the Balance

Will the Supreme Court Complete the Destruction of the USA?

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I had another article ready to go and then I saw this video.


And so, this is the seeding ground of the literal destruction of American sovereignty.


Robert Gouveia Esq.

Rough Transcript – BEGIN

The DOJ filed an instant appeal saying, “We’re going to overturn this lower level judge who just found that the laws that make it criminal to vote in an election if you’re a non-citizen are unconstitutional.”

Now, this case is a very strange one. It comes out of Chelsea Michelle Anne Cox’s prosecution for voting illegally in the election…

And the judge who’s behind this is also a curious person saying he just decided that this criminal charge is not valid because the prosecution is unconstitutional… The holding essentially is saying, “No, the feds can’t prosecute these crimes. Only states can prosecute these things.” which means that certain states that don’t hardly prosecute any of these crimes will just continue to not do that. And so if you have a state like California or Michigan or you have Arizona where these blue secretaries exist and blue attorneys general exist and you have non-citizens voting, no one’s going to do anything about it.

…the judge who did this is a Biden judge. But there’s a very curious recommendation here. So his name is David S. Leibowitz appointed by Joe Biden March 1, 2024. And he is a lawyer from Florida, now the district judge. He was a law clerk some time ago. Was actually a US attorney for the Southern District of New York, one of the most corrupt locations in the planet. and he got recommended by Marco Rubio in 2021. Of course, Joe Biden is the president at that time and you know that’s being generous to him and Rubio recommended him. Remember that we have this thing called the blue slip or the red slip. So nominees need to kind of pass through these senators. They can sign off on them or not. We’ve got a big problem with that because Chuck Grassley won’t actually overrule any of the blue slips. So, a lot of our US attorneys have been prevented from actually being able to take office, but Rubio recommended this guy and he was nominated part of a bipartisan package… And it’s about that money, man. So Leibowitz, this guy, this judge is the nephew of a guy called Norman Brahman. He’s a billionaire with a car dealership and he’s a Rubio benefactor. Okay? So he donated 5 to10 million,5 and 10 million to Rubio back in 2016. So that’s why Rubio comes out and wants to nominate him. …

[Gouveia goes into more history of the judge’s family & Rubio. — GC]

So it’s a very curious thing. You know, this is a recommendation for somebody who’s been very supportive of the Rubio’s. And what’s curious about this is the judge, I don’t think was really capable of articulating the rationale for this holding. And so what he did, –this is why this is a little bit concerning, — is he actually went and appointed an amicus. So a friend of the court to come in and do some analysis.

Now the guy who came in and did the analysis who was ultimately going to be really the source of the judge’s decision is called Paul Clement.And so let me show you where this was. And Paul Clement right now memorandum of a court appointed amicus curier. So friend of the court Paul Clement is a very highly respected reputable lawyer across the United States. Background on him is he’s somebody who worked for George W. Bush and was very well-versed with the Supreme Court, the solicitor general from 2005 to 2008 and is now what some people call like the Secret Service whisperer. So when he writes an article, everybody’s like, “Oh, what did Paul Clement say?”

Now, he ultimately has handled gobs of cases in front of the Supreme Court. Joined the DOJ February 2001, handled a ton of these cases, became future acting AG, and then gave notice of his resignation back in 2008, goes and teaches at Georgetown, all sorts of stuff. Then they created this law firm in Washington DC and led the challenge to overturn affordable healthcare and more.

The reason I’m sharing this with you is because he is also saying that this federal law is unconstitutional. The judge basically just copied and pasted his entire theory into his order. So, lots of stuff. Trump was also considering him to be on the Supreme Court. Of course, the DOJ is appealing this outcome, but these are all the cases that he’s appeared on in front of the Supreme Court. Tons. I mean, just gobs.


[Gouveia shows a long list of cases where Clement appeared before the Supreme Court. This is why Clement is so dangerous. He is well known and respected by the Supreme Court. — GC]

So like the level of experience and reputation he has is a very extensive litany as we can see. So the judge appointed him and said what do you think Paul and then Paul came out and he wrote this memo.

It’s a 53 page memo and in it he fleshes out both sides of the argument but largely he’s saying that the law is unconstitutional. And the main theory here before we take a look at the judge’s order is that in order to find it valid, you’d have to combine various aspects of the constitution to do it. He says the law says, this is from Paul Clement, that it shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election for president. But the constitution requires the federal government to employ in federal elections the state’s qualifications. And so the states get to decide what the qualifications are. And so this would contravene the rule that the states, not the federal government, determine voter qualifications. He goes through the history and he says back in 1874, the Supreme Court said that citizenship has not in all cases been made a condition in order to vote and that some states allowed aliens to vote back in 1874. And then by the time Congress passed this new section 611 in 1996, that was all a distant memory.

And the main counterargument is that the contrary arguments have considerable force. Right? So in other words, they say if you look at the text, if you look at the history from Paul Clement, he writes this new law passed by Congress is a voter qualification and as we know the constitution overrides a statute. So it goes beyond Congress’s authorities.

Now the counterargument he says, well you can also conclude that Congress can regulate voter qualifications. More narrowly, an argument could be made that Congress is sweeping power over immigration paired with the necessary and proper clause, allow it to prohibit voting by aliens, even if it must otherwise take the state voter qualifications as a given. And perhaps most prominently, 611, the new law that criminalizes this, could be construed as simply a federal enforcement mechanism that is constitutional when applied in states that prohibit noncitizen voting. Right?

So the idea is if the states say that a non-citizen is prohibited from voting, the feds can enforce that and this is basically enabling a prosecution based on a state’s prior authority. They set the qualifications when that is violated. Then the feds can prosecute and basically extend their jurisdiction over it. But the problem of course is then the states if this is upheld the states really could just allow non-citizens to vote and based on his precedent right he’s saying that historically there’s an argument to be made that they can do that he writes section 611 could on that reading operate not as a verboten federal voting qualification but as a permissible effort by the federal government to criminalize unlawful voting by individuals who are aliens.

Now, that said, 611’s unless clause, which carves out only a narrow exception for alien voting in non-federal elections when permitted by state law, complicates that reading. And so, on balance, he says, it seems that the better view is that because 611 was intended to criminalize alien voting regardless of state law, it’s a voter qualification and therefore it’s unconstitutional. So if that’s right, then Congress can’t do it and they overstep their constitutional bounds and that now anyone voting in federal elections, all of these prosecutions that we’ve been talking about here,

you know, hundreds of them now are all illegal.

So that means there’s no repercussions, especially if the states decide not to prosecute. Absolutely wild.

Now here in addition to that is more from the judge. Now the court sincerely thanks this guy for undertaking their appointments. Basically he says you guys go figure this out. You know this is complicated so I’ll just whatever you say. And council performed their duty. They did it pro bono. So he did all that work for free and they’ve acted with the finest tradition of the federal bar. It’s like, wow, you do all that for free in order to invalidate criminal prosecutions of non-citizens. Amicus was not appointed to assist either party. Both were well represented by experienced counsel and they were appointed only to provide me, the judge, with a thorough and candid view of all the relevant legal authorities.

So, the judge just takes it and runs with it. And he says ultimately, this is an unusual criminal case. There’s an old law here from uh the the Congress saying it’s illegal to vote as a non-citizen. Of course, a bunch of people are being prosecuted.

The DOJ, this is going to be a major battle. And he says it’s probably not constitutional. They cite to a main case. That case is very, very weak is what he says. And because the original meaning of the constitution says, states set the qualifications. So like literally the states if they set the qualifications and the federal government can’t interject as to whether citizens or not can vote. The takeaway is that they can just change their rules. California already wants to do this. They’re already enabling non-citizens to vote in city elections in LA. So if this is the president that holds, they can change it across the entire state. Non-citizens can vote. And what are the federal prosecutors going to do about it? Nothing. because the enforcement of that is illegal.

So if the constitution says that the only way to fix that is will be with an amendment and we know that’s never going to happen.

So the best reading of this underpins that this criminal case means this law is a voter qualification matter and the constitution does not authorize Congress to set those except for very specific provisions. Congress has no power who can vote and who cannot vote in federal elections. It’s crazy. which is of course why they wanted this invasion to come in so that they could vote and then once they can vote the non-citizens will have the ability to then elect certain you know people who are very sympathetic to their causes will have mass amnesty then they’ll become citizens and everything is just cooked. They say this is so fundamental.

When you’re prosecuted based on an illegal law, that prosecution cannot stand. And so after careful consideration, this law is unconstitutional as applied. Chelsea Cox, this illegal voter cannot be prosecuted for a violation of an unconstitutional law.

This is from the judge and it’s backed by Paul Clement, which makes me extremely nervous about this because that will have sway with some of the conservative judges on the Supreme Court. And if Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts are already people who are perfectly happy with birthright citizenship applying to all people essentially, even if you break the law to come in here, they may latch on to this argument.

So long story short, the whole law he says is unconstitutional. And so the motion to dismiss the indictment or the information she was not indicted is all valid pure issue of law saying that there are a bunch of Supreme Court cases, some of which the government is relying on and it’s a little separate.

The government’s main argument comes from a 1970 case and they say, “Yeah, Congress may set voter qualifications in federal but not state elections.” And so at the state level, yeah, they can maybe set non-citizens to vote for their state government, but at the federal level, Congress can ultimately set rules across the the board, but there it was different. This is not about a criminal prosecution. So that case is really not on point. And then we got to turn to other cases. So he does that and applying that guidance, it’s not as clear as he may otherwise say the other side argues. So, we can’t ignore these other prior cases.

The parties spill a lot of ink about how they should apply this other case from 2013. And in urging the court to disregard Scalia’s analysis, the government is dismissive of the dicta. They say it’s dicta on dicta, which is, you know, commentary basically added into the opinion that doesn’t relate to the final holding. But I’m not saying any of that holds.

He’s really just flying through the president and then saying it’s really a constitutional matter. The Constitution commits to the states and the states alone the power to set voter qualifications in federal elections, not just state. He says you can just go back and read the debates and it was all to them. Three clauses will address all of this. Article one says that voters in elections shall have the qualifications requisite for electors. 17th amendment came out in 1913 uses the same rule. The electors in each state you’ll have the qualifications and article 2 addresses presidential elections for the electoral college. And so read together those are the voter qualification rules and the constitution. This is a statute so it can’t override the constitution.

In federal congressional elections voters qualifications are a function of each state rules. The reading of these clauses is reinforced by our constitutional order setting a bunch of other cases. And the design is no accident. We don’t want the feds to set qualifications like maybe all you know like only like you know white Christians can vote or something. So the states get to decide that and now apparently that is extended across the board to non-citizens. So this is a voter qualification law. It sets a standard. Can’t do that. The Constitution says that belongs to the states and nothing in the actual Constitution allows Congress to do that. So, if this spreads or this is upheld by the Supreme Court, it’s going to be a voting free-for-all. Your citizenship may not matter for anything at all. First problem with the argument is the language of 611. It’s a voter qualification. And again, it doesn’t matter if it’s between state or federal elections. That’s the argument. Congress said it’s for federal elections, but they say it’s it applies to all elections, not just states. So there is no real distinction between the state setting qualifications for state office versus federal office.

But they say no, we have the elections clause. This is the big one. Saying we can protect the integrity of federal elections. elections clause as we know says times, place and manner of holding elections for senators and reps in Congress shall be prescribed by the state legislature thereof, right? But the Congress may at any time by law make or alter those regulations except from choosing senators.

Now, that’s what we all would latch on to and say, well, Congress did that. The time, places, and manner, so manner, who can vote means you can say non-citizens are prohibited. So while these clauses expressly commit the states on authority to who can vote, the elections clause gives it about how they can vote. It’s manner. It’s not who. Okay? So it’s manner but it doesn’t mean the actual qualification. So the argument is outside of the elections clause, right? So the federal government can’t set uniform standards across the nation and otherwise the states get to decide. So, all said and done, this is now unconstitutional. Can Florida prohibit and punish this? Yeah, Florida can and Florida has, but many other states never will and wouldn’t want to.

Anyways, this is the problem. Okay, the federal government is now coming in to say, “These are illegal aliens voting, so we’re going to prosecute that.” But can the federal government actually remove the defendant from the states? Well, they’re going to have to go through immigration proceedings now. And Congress can’t could draft an enforcement statute with criminal penalties. If the state decided to prohibit non-citizens from voting, then they could pass like a criminal law. You violated a state qualification and now we’re prosecuting you for that. But that’s not what we have. And so, this is a rare case. And ultimately, he says based on what Paul Clement and the other amicus sent over to him, this law is unconstitutional. Her case is dismissed. All other pending motions are denied as moot and all other penalties are vacated signed by Rubio’s recommended judge, David S. Lieowitz, out of Florida.

And this and he’s got the support of Paul Clement, who’s not a random person. And so this will ultimately go up, I would imagine, to the Supreme Court probably quickly. And we’ll see how Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts weigh in on this. But the DOJ instantly as soon as that order came down filed a notice of appeal because every single other defendant who’s been charged with this will now use it in their defense.

And yeah, Florida as the state may be prosecuting these people, but other states are not. We have non-citizens who are being charged in blue states all over the place and they’re facing criminal charges. they’re going to take this decision and file the exact same motion and say my case should be dismissed as well.

So, it’s a shocking development in that according to this judge and Paul Clement and others who have a lot of Paul Clement has a lot of gravitas in, you know, right-wing circles saying it’s illegal, can’t prosecute these people. Only states can and states won’t. So, all of the non-citizens voting will basically illegal for them to do that. if you extrapolate this out. So, this will have to go to the Supreme Court of the United States. No doubt about it. They’re going to

take it up to the 11th Circuit. We’ll see what the 11th Circuit does, but this will spread like wildfire.

Every single person who’s a non-citizen who got charged under the statute. And there’s now well over a hundred. And that will turn into a battle for our elections and our sovereignty where we get invaded by millions and millions of non-citizens. they vote and there’s nothing we can do about it at the federal level. If the states don’t want to enforce it then or even look into it or even pass laws that say, “Oh, if the qualification authority is with us, then we’ll just make it legal.” What are you going to do about it? Amend the Constitution? Obviously, you’re not going to do that.

And so, this is the seeding ground of the literal destruction of American sovereignty.

When millions of non-citizens can come in here and vote and there’s nothing the federal government can do about it, we start to ask ourselves, what is citizenship? What does it even mean? Is it even worth a damn? Not really. And what kind of sane nation would actually sit around and allow this to happen?

So big problem out of Florida. And I thought, you know, this will be something that the Supreme Court will deal with. Then I saw the amicus from Paul Clement and I thought, “Oh, that’s great.” Because on these issues, the Supreme Court will read into that and they may find his arguments persuasive. So, we’ll keep our eye on this one and see what comes next. But this is an extensive extensive concern. Hopefully the 11th Circuit reasons through this appropriately and America can protect our sovereignty.

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TheseTruths commented yesterday

 Reply to  Gail Combs

 October 6, 2026 01:05

This is what I came across during a discussion yesterday. If the Constitution says the states have the authority to decide whether illegals can vote, and if SCOTUS upholds that, we are in royal trouble. It would also mean that every prosecution for illegals having voted would be null and void.

I think this is the law that they are arguing is unconstitutional. [It is -GC]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/611

18 U.S. Code § 611 – Voting by aliens

(a)It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—
(1)the election is held partly for some other purpose;
(2)aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and
(3)voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for a candidate for such Federal offices, in such a manner that an alien has the opportunity to vote for such other purpose, but not an opportunity to vote for a candidate for any one or more of such Federal offices.
(b)Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
(c)Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if—
(1)each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization);
(2)the alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and
(3)the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

I have no confidence in SCOTUS ruling in a way to protect the country.

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Second comment:

Yes, word needs to get out, but I don’t know what can be done. SCOTUS is supposed to rule based on lawyers’ arguments. If there is no Constitutional basis for the federal government’s stopping illegals from voting, I don’t know what the lawyers can do. IMO an argument could be made about original intent, but if specific wording can’t be found in the Constitution…

We know how three justices will vote, and I have no confidence in some of the others.

It makes no sense to allow foreign invaders to vote who have entered the country illegally. That would transform the country into something other than was intended.

Amendment XIV, Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. 

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

My ability to vote is not literally taken away by anyone else’s voting, but my ability to elect the people I think most qualified is diluted if invaders can come in and flood the ballot box. We know that many are sponsored by foreign countries and donors for the express purpose of altering and taking over the United States. That abridges our ability to elect those whom we choose to protect us and our country.

The Guarantee Clause
Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and 

shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Illegals’ voting is a step beyond invasion.

Dear MAGA: 20261006 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | Cambodia – Targeting the Smart and Capable Class

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250123 ❀ In Highest Honor of Susie Sampson, Known to MAGA as Deplorable Patriot
Health Friday Open Thread 1.24.2025: In Memoriam Mira Persona, Susan P. Sampson (Deplorable Patriot)
DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250128 ❀ Call for Authors ❀ Scientific Opinions on the Medical Case of Susie Sampson

At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!

Cambodia – Targeting the Smart and Capable Class

If I could leave you with one message about socialism, it’s this.

Socialists will always get to the point where they have to do whatever they can to silence people who are actually competent to make a country work. Remember that. American socialists are no exception. Their horrible shit-show is always inferior to non-socialist solutions, and in the end, they have to kill those who can do it right.

This video explains the demonstration case of Cambodia.

Note that the weird AI clickbait thumbnail seems to have nothing to do with the video.

Bottom line – never give up the guns.

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20261005 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Did Obama and Brennan Abuse Early AI as an Illegal Hacking Tool?

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!

We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!

THE STUFF

President Barack Obama listens to the remarks of John Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, his nominee for Director of the CIA, during the announcement in the East Room of the White House, Jan. 7, 2013. The President also announced former Senator Chuck Hagel, second from left, as his nominee for Secretary of Defense. Joining them are departing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, left. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

Did Obama and Brennan Abuse Early AI as an Illegal Hacking Tool?

Do you remember what the Obama administration did to Sharyl Attkisson’s husband, planting classified documents on his computer when they were going after her? This was fairly early in the Obama first term, if I am recalling correctly.

Just as an aside, they likely had extra motive against her, due to her persistence on vaccines, IYKWIM.

But as to the title question, the point is that there were MANY allegations – and many with pretty good proof – that the Obama administration and the Holder DOJ in particular were quite loose with what they considered “justice” – and what Trump has since called weaponization of the Department of Justice.

Obama, in my opinion, was particularly cunning, in using the failure of the original Obamacare website to induce all of Silicon Valley to “help” him – and thereby to draw the most powerful C-level names in America into weaponizing tech against Obama’s political opponents.

I have been increasingly wise to Obama since I actually voted for him in 2008. You see, there was a little event called Sandy Hook, remarkable in its level of exploitation in its aftermath. From that post-aw-shucks-reelection moment in 2012, as I watched hundreds of actions by government officials and political operatives, some directed at ME, PERSONALLY, that can only be described as PSY-OP, I began to grow up politically.

Something was NOT RIGHT in the Obama administration.

I began to understand what is REALLY going on.

So – back to the big question.

There is an obscure “conspiracy theory” that always struck me as a bit too realistic. It is supported by the admissions of one of the conspirators, and in my opinion is now made very clear by what is NOW publicly known about artificial intelligence, as well as a little tool called “Stuxnet” – the level of technology of which, while short of modern AI, fits into the timeline of both AI development and the conspiracy theory very, very well.

The fact that a lady named Tulsi Gabbard has released absolute proof of another conspiracy called “Russia, Russia, Russia”, including a smoking gun against the two key players in the title, only adds to its believability.

Tulsi-Gabbard-FNC-1200x630
Tulsi-Gabbard-FNC-1200×630

You see, there were self-protecting stories from a hacker type named Dennis Montgomery, who claimed he had used some of the most cutting-edge hacking tools on the planet, in service of two guys named Barack Hussein Obama and John Brennan. This allegedly occurred during the time that Stuxnet was being developed – which was maybe 8 or 9 years before similar allegations of illegal hacking against Trump, BY government and allied forces, were made during the 2016 presidential election.

I remember when I first learned of the capabilities of Stuxnet, and how I marveled at the intelligence thereof.

Whether or not such highly advanced, highly automated tools can be legitimately called artificial intelligence really depends on WHEN the question is asked. Put another way, in the preface to Karen Hao’s book, Empire of AI…..

“It is said that to explain is to explain away. This maxim is nowhere so well-fulfilled as in the area of computer programming, especially in what is called heuristic programming and artificial intelligence. For in those realms, machines are made to behave in wondrous ways, often sufficient to dazzle even the most experienced observer. But once a particular program is unmasked, once its inner workings are explained in language sufficiently plain to induce understanding, its magic crumbles away; it is instead revealed as a mere collection of procedures, each quite comprehensible. The observer says to himself ‘I could have written that’. With that thought he moves the program in question from the shelf marked ‘intelligent,’ to that reserved for curios, fit to be discussed only with people less enlightened than he.”

-Joseph Weizenbaum, inventor of the first chatbot, 1966

The point I’m trying to make – which is in many ways a corollary of Weizenbaum’s quote, is that “future proves past” – in the words of the Q movement.

We now understand AI enough to know that old AI never seems that intelligent – but it does seem very REAL. And now that Stuxnet and the like seem like “old hat”, it’s much easier to believe that operations using such technology were quite real.

So, in many ways, I think Obama has a better understanding of AI than most people in tech give him credit for.

In my opinion, Obama is by now very familiar with Weizenbaum’s cited effect. Obama understands how understanding removes fear – but by the same token, how FEAR PREVENTS UNDERSTANDING.

Right now, Obama needs you to be afraid. My call to you is simple – FEAR NOT.

Fear is the mind-killer.

I have been aware of the same fears Obama is trying to instill in us, since not long after Dennis Montgomery says that he and his alleged associates were up to no good, using very smart software to break into banks, government institutions, credit card companies, and anywhere else with highly private information they desired. At that time, when I first understood the capabilities of Stuxnet, but had no experience with it, I sounded and felt a lot like everybody else right now, who is quite afraid of AI. I realized many potential dangers, and was afraid.

I now believe that others, who had access to that software, didn’t fear it. They mastered it, and used it, against people who didn’t even know it existed.

Think about what I’m saying. Research things – AI, Stuxnet, and Dennis Mongomery. Gain understanding. Use AI, and explain to yourself, or to others, but be careful not to explain away too much.

It took me a while to get over my fears of autonomous intelligent software, but I did.

AWARENESS and UNDERSTANDING were my tools to eliminate fear.

And one more. Above all, this tool.

God Bless you and yours!

Vaya con Dios!

W

References:

NONE. You have enough. In fact, you have more than you know.

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

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Up front I want to say, if we are to be a free people it is up to us to take control of our lives. We have been deliberately trained to remain infantile and to look to an authority to tell us what to do. POTUS Trump wants us to be adults.

A word about POTUS Trump and Sec Kennedy.

Trump spent 5 years in a military school and then made his money building in one of the most corrupt cities in the USA. He KNOWS strategy. Kennedy is a trained, successful lawyer. He watched his father, his uncle and his cousin get assassinated by the Cabal. He also knows the enemy and strategy.

We focus on various battles – Vaccines, Epstein, illegals, crime, fuel prices, AI, Flock Cameras – POTUS and his Secretaries are focused on the WAR. The Globalist Cabal has various troops they deploy against We the People. The Fake News being a major weapon. Commie judges and the Senate being other major weapons. Then there are sanctuary cities and states, Antifa, drugs…. However I think the biggest battle is against the Mercantilists based in Europe & the City of London. Also remember POTUS is trying to bring back our industrial base. That includes Big Pharma that was exported to China and India thanks to the World Trade Organization ratification.

If you go back in history, depending on the author, you find similar systems. Whether it is Rome and slaves or Europe and serfs, you have an upper class (oligarchy) usually a priesthood and a thin layer of technical people. The rest of the people are serfs or slaves. Essentially feudalism.

Rosa Koire, a democrat, over a decade ago described the New Feudalism in THE POST SUSTAINABLE FUTURE

Your government is a corporatocracy, a new authoritarian state in the process of consolidating your output into a more controllable, exploitable channel. The reason you are being misled by your government and told that all of this is good for you, is because there is no profit in managing a mass uprising. It is too disruptive. The markets want you to continue to consume—quietly and obediently. The technology that is being marketed to you is actually being used to condition you to expect to be spied on, and to spy on others. Every totalitarian state in history has relied on data collection. The Nazis were masters of data collection and analysis. Your government now has technological capabilities that far exceed anything ever seen on the planet to this date. You are in the midst of the biggest public relations scam in the history of the world. The pretty pastel vision of life in a SmartGrowth development is a manipulation, a mask. In fact these plans are designed to restrict your freedom of movement and choice.

Transit villages (formerly known as cities) will be restricted to having only the population that can be supported by food grown within a 100 mile radius (called a ‘food shed’). Food sheds will dictate where you can live and when you can change your residence. Calculations, such as those done recently at Cornell University, will determine how much food can be grown within that area and then the Transit Village population will be limited to the number of people who can be fed by that land (click on the blue to go to the Cornell website). It is reasonable to expect rationing based on this mode. If you want to move to that village you will have to apply and wait for an opening…

According to ICLEI, if you only have one car or no car your disposable income will be at least 20% higher.  Does this mean that you will have 20% more money to spend?  No.  It means that corporations can lower your wages by 20% and still sell you the same number of goods.  A compression of the economy with a more efficient outcome for big business.  Concentrating populations into urban areas where they can be easily monitored, where their usage of energy can be regulated, and where their consumption of goods can be restricted, is a goal of UN Agenda 21…


ICLEI BTW is still alive and well. The nearest city, as a member, had our 4-lane roads changed to 2 lanes with a middle turn lane and bike paths, two years ago. I have yet to see a bike on the bike paths. Combine what Rosa said with
The Wildlands Project and UN Convention on Biological Diversity Plan to Restore Biodiversity in the United States and it becomes clear there are too many people serfs so the herd has to be thinned. If disease doesn’t do the job there is THE CASE FOR NUCLEAR WAR.

Normal use is the little green areas. Again, we got the future plans for our county. My farm is within a wildlife corridor and thus no human use will be allowed.

Getting rid of mRNA vaccines does not get rid of the real problem–the Oligarchy who actually rule us. If Kennedy & Trump manage to succeed in getting rid of mRNA vaccines, our rulers would just use a different method to cull the herd. Why do you think POTUS keeps saying Iran must never have a nuclear weapon?

In short POTUS is getting rid of the guy with the gun NOT THE GUN!

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I want to use oil as an example of how complicated things actually are.

Crude Oil Prices Today – Brent, WTI & Global

Brent Crude Oil – 60-Day Price Trend. Brent crude oil– the international benchmark that pricesapproximately 65% of the world’s traded crude… Brent crude trades at $114.89/bbl per barrel. The Strait of Hormuz crisis, OPEC+ production decisions, and sanctions on major producers are reshaping global energy markets. Oil prices directly affect gasoline costs, inflation, defense budgets, and geopolitical stability worldwide….

Five major crude oil benchmarks serve different regions and market segments. Understanding the spread between these benchmarks reveals supply constraints, sanctions effects, and regional demand patterns.

BENCHMARK .. PRICE USD/BBL .. EXCHANGE .. REGION .. DESCRIPTION

Brent Crude ……… $114.89 ……… ICE London …… Global ….. International

~65% of the world’s traded oil. [Price] sourced from North Sea production.

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WTI ……………. $108.20 ………….NYMEX…….Americas U.S. domestic benchmark.

(West Texas Intermediate) Delivered at Cushing, Oklahoma. Trades at a discount to Brent due to landlocked delivery. [And NOT because it is American oil.]

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Dubai/Oman Crude . $110.80 ………….. DME ….. Asia-Pacific . asia-Pacific benchmark.

Used for pricing Middle East crude exports to Asia. Sour crude grade.

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Urals Crude ………. $68.50 OTC ….Europe/Asia .. Russian export blend .. Sanctioned

Trades at a steep discount to Brent since 2022 Western sanctions. Primary buyers: India, China, Turkey.

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OPEC Basket …… $109.60 ………….. OPEC ….. Global

Weighted average of 13 OPEC member crude grades. Published daily by the OPEC. [This is the Oil that is actually priced in London Exchange.]


So let’s take a look at Brent Crude Oil aka North Sea Oil.

North Sea Oil Production Statistics 2026 | Key Facts

January 2026, the Norwegian Continental Shelf (NCS) — which accounts for the overwhelming majority of North Sea oil output — produced an average of 2.219 million barrels per day of oil, natural gas liquids (NGL), and condensate… the United Kingdom Continental Shelf (UKCS) ..with crude oil production falling from 0.56 million bpd in 2024 to 0.40 million bpd by 2029 [and 0.93 projected for 2026.]

So somewhere around 3.1 million barrels a day of North Sea oil is used to price almost 65 million barrels a day.

Oil Producing Countries 2026

These are the top eleven, there are more in the chart at the website.

United States FlagUnited States21.1M889.9M
Saudi Arabia FlagSaudi Arabia11.4M535.8M
Russia FlagRussia10.7M523.3M
Canada FlagCanada6.2M302.2M
Iran FlagIran5.2M242.1M
Iraq FlagIraq4.4M214.6M
China FlagChina4.3M216.1M
United Arab Emirates FlagUnited Arab Emirates4.2M189.1M
Brazil FlagBrazil3.9M203.6M
Kuwait FlagKuwait2.8M134.7M
Kazakhstan FlagKazakhstan2.1M99.4M

World Total 99.4 Million barrels a day.


The financiers in London are controlling the pricing, NOT the oil producers! As The Network of Global Corporate Control showed, “…737 top holders accumulate 80% of the control over the value of all TNCs [Trans National Corporations] … A relevant additional fact at this point is that ¾ of the core are financial intermediaries...”

These financiers, the City of London are POTUS Trump’s targets. That is why Mark Carney is acting nutz.

TradeBait goes into this too, only looking at the situation from the point of view of the US military.

Living in America: Monday Morning Quarterbacking – Pete & DS Operatives


This video is prompted to where you see the last ten minutes instead of two hours. Please watch to the end. Jim who speaks at the end is a Canadian. The other guy is Burning Bright from Badlands. He is from the Boston area.

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THE ENEMY

Our enemy, once they had lost the overt fights against the USA, turned to psychological warfare.


“For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.”

JFK


“
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath  when they speak in condemnation of it.”

Woodrow Wilson

The Impact of Science on Society – B. Russell

Bertrand Russell was a “scientific consultant” to evil psychopaths who wanted to run a world tyranny. In this book, he lays out a framework for a “scientific” global dictatorship, and ponders the intricacies of bringing it about, while blithely penning his sociopathic rationalizations for moving forward with it…

– p56 [1] On education “The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.”

– p41 [2] “In like manner, the scientific rulers will provide one kind of education for ordinary men and women, and another for those who are to become holders of scientific power. Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities, probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play…. All the boys and girls will learn from an early age to be what is called ‘co-operative,’ i.e., to do exactly what everybody is doing. Initiative will be discouraged in these children, and insubordination, without being punished, will be scientifically trained out of them.” “It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished.” – p61 [3] On control over opinion “The completeness of the resulting control over opinion depends in various ways upon scientific technique. Where all children go to school, and all schools are controlled by the government, the authorities can close the minds of the young to everything contrary to official orthodoxy.


LORD MARK MALLOCH-BROWN – THE GLOBALIST RACKETEER KINGPIN RUNNING THE QUEEN’S PRIVY COUNCIL WITH GEORGE SOROS

(Jun. 19, 2018)—The kindest thing we can say about Queen’s Privy Council kingpin Lord Mark Malloch-Brown is that he is certainly one of a kind.

It has taken an entire group of researchers over a month just to gather the facts about him. These facts are scattered across the Internet in many dozens of biographies in an evident strategy to confuse people about his background. No two are alike. These convoluted biographies are telling for a man with literally trillions of dollars at his fingertips; meaning he can buy national elections anywhere on the planet, but he cannot seem to write his resume…

….the Queen’s Privy Council and the United Nations plan for us. Exploitation, abuse and euthanasia. They don’t even hide the fact that they want to exterminate 75-90% of the world’s population (see video-taped comments by eugenicists Prince Philip and Ted Turner).

Is the above article, bafflegab? Truth? Or a mix?

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WOLF MOON on mRNA VACCINES

AND THIS IS KEY.

If what Wolf proposes is true, POTUS unleashed the brainstorming of Americans to find ways to mitigate the effects of the clot shots. Not only did Trump, spike the guns of the 10 years of lockdown crowd AND not require or promote the clot shot, but early on he promoted alternatives. Trump and Dr Navarro even got India to manufacture HCQ for the USA and the USA then had strategic reserves of the stuff. Of course the Cabal countered with a lying Fake Science trial showing HCQ kills people. With Ivermectin, they just killed the study.

Starting the comments HERE on September 22, 2026 11:26 Bold is mine.

Wolf Moon  Reply to  Aubergine

He [Trump] won’t answer, either.

IMO, after numerous “behavioral training” hoaxes for allegedly possessing or releasing information, Trump is NEVER going to push to actually release information on deep military stuff like “why they’re developing bad but very quickly produced vaccines” that cost only 0.0001 out of 15, which apparently is a real DEAL as far as the military is concerned. Even among their own forces.

IMO Bobby Kennedy has been “read in”, too. But (IMO) they did NOT read in Prasad or Makary – too low-level and could not be trusted to keep the secrets. Those guys pushed where Kennedy could not protect them.

I strongly suspect now that JFK was killed because he was going to take stuff public in some way that was a predictable disaster.

If I go back and study the stuff that was kept secret during WWII, and assume that similar situations are ongoing today, then things starts making sense.

We are NEVER going to ban these vaccines. IMO they would rather disclose the truth and endure the resulting societal problems, than lose the military edge that genetic vaccines provide in hypothetical conflicts.

But whatever. We need to keep doing our thing to minimize the blowback, IMO. But not having the “gun/shield” is not an option.

Wolf Moon Reply to  PAVACA

You yourself have published the truth about the HHS/DoD connection. We all know that DoD and HHS have been joined at the hip on bioweapons for decades. I doubt that there was even military unanimity on the idea of Fauci and HHS moving experiments to Wuhan being a good idea or a bad idea. I suspect there are varying levels of realism on mRNA vaccines.

And yes, in these hypotheses, I assume Fauci was the guy who was “read in” on whatever is really going on.

Not everybody who supports mRNA vaccines has the same motivation for supporting them. Many people believe all the narrative BS that the media spits out. But then add people who discern varying levels of badness of the vaccines, and who then have varying levels of tolerance on that.

I don’t think anybody except embedded depoppers, ChiComs, and a few others are “fine” with the casualties of the clot shot. But I do think there are people in the system who know how bad it is, but who also know why that badness is being tolerated.

Wolf Moon  Reply to  TheseTruths

I’m not trying to discourage people. I’m trusting Trump, AND Bobby Kennedy, and simultaneously trying to explain why they’re allowing a marginal but potentially critical vaccine technology to be developed.

And if I’m right about this, it’s a lot more important than an election. I don’t LIKE that, but it’s true. A “humanity-clearing virus” with 80+% mortality being stopped in its tracks by a vaccine with a COVID-level death rate (or a COVID vaccine-level death rate – pretty similar) – that’s a win, if we’re ever in that position.

That’s cold, hard science. It’s not pretty, but it has to be considered.

Frontiers are not safe. At the same time we were developing the American frontier, we had “early” anesthesia. Ether, chloroform, and others. It was DANGEROUS as hell. We also had rapid amputations with saws. Same. But it was better than the alternative.

Right now – with all the flaws of the mRNA vaccines, if there is suddenly an “airborne Ebola”, then our having the ability to create a working and deliverable vaccine in under 24 hours is a huge, huge, huge military advantage in SAVING AMERICA. Maybe saving humanity.

Obviously, WE should not be making that virus. But WE don’t control other people on the planet (honestly, we can’t even control our own), and if there ARE “people” not on this planet who have more advanced technology, well, we don’t control them, either.

So, IMO, the bad (side effects) but good (fast) mRNA technology needs to move forward. I just think we need to be more honest about why we’re doing it. The REASONS of speed and simplicity have been mentioned. The reasons behind those have not.

I refuse to believe Trump is stupid about this, and that Bobby Kennedy has turned into a polar opposite on vaccines. Something is up. And these hypotheses explain it.

Wolf Moon  Reply to  TheseTruths

It is all food for thought.

Thanks for thinking about it. It’s not easy, but it bears consideration by more minds to see if it makes sense.

I’ve done a lot of thinking to try to solve the riddle of Trump’s enigmatic vax position, but Bobby Kennedy gave me another equation to work with, and that allowed me to see some potential solutions. Mix in the military’s shadowy support for the entire thing, without knee-jerking that they’re Satan-worshiping DARPA baddies, and suddenly some rational possibilities come into view.

There are times that the entire COVID psy-op struck me as a bit of a live drill, and while I think that idea is far too simplistic, I do think that people advising Trump have surely been doing so from literal Q-clearance knowledge that can’t go public.

For instance (and this is also to share some mRNA knowledge) it is entirely possible that our military KNEW in 2018-2019 that there would eventually be another pathogen lab leak, likely significant, and in top military manner, we had prepared for it. The best tech for rapid response on a proven platform, though not using proven-safe protein targets, had to have been the mRNA technology, IMO, despite all its flaws, problems, and unknown risks. On paper, it’s the best. Yeah, it doesn’t guarantee a shut-off of production. Yeah, it makes errors because of N1-methylpseudouridine. Yeah, it has toxicity problems in the LNPs. Yeah, it goes to bad places it shouldn’t go. Everything we’ve discussed.

BUT we know that the baseline badness of side effects is probably only one or two orders of magnitude worse than our “best” vaccines. For some unknown future disease where the death rate exceeds that from the clot shot itself, AND the saving of lives due to fast action is exponential, mRNA shots will clearly have a desirable total life-saving yield. They won’t do it as safely as a traditional vaccine using a protein immunogen, but they will start saving lives sooner and faster. This can be easily modeled.

This would have been more obvious if Omicron had not saved us from Delta, with the latter being about as pathogenic as Original Wuhan, and it would have been completely clear if there had been no mutation of Wuhan, because in that case we might have seen permanent immunity from the vax.

All that said, we must (IMO) keep pointing out the deficiencies of the mRNA technology. I suspect there are limits to how much improvement is possible, so we cannot delude ourselves if these remain sub-par vaccines compared to protein technologies. We cannot let lies about mRNA technology, nor even its potential heroic use in a truly apocalyptic biological event, blind us to the reality that old-style vaccines are and likely will remain superior.

However, I think that it would be wonderful if somebody “on our side” were able to outline the highly theoretical risk-benefit curves, where mRNA vaccines might save lives sooner and bigger at high pathogenicity, but are demonstrably sub-optimal at low pathogenicity, thereby framing both the negatives and positives of the technology in a way that allows us to make peace with each other. In that case, RFKJ’s wisdom of allowing mRNA to go forward, but under increased scrutiny and deference to sound scientific results, will prove historically correct, IMO.

I’ll just say right off the bat that I don’t expect anybody here to believe any of these hypotheses – and I do call them hypotheses, because I’m not locked in on any of them. And just for further clarification, I’m not certain that anything you’re additionally speculating as being implied, is actually implied, or is intended by me to be implied, but you are welcome to digest what I say in any way that makes sense to you, no problem.

These are very loose hypotheses, designed around the idea that much of what we are seeing is the result of secrecy that is both constraining and manipulating President Trump and Bobby Kennedy.

I remain uncertain whether Trump was actually read in on anything potentially related to these hypotheses during his first term, but the suspicion that he (45) was NOT – and later (47) WAS – looms large to me as a handy explanation of otherwise inexplicable things. Indeed, I further suspect that Obama and Brennan’s plot to raise “Russia, Russia, Russia” suspicions about Trump was designed to make sure Trump could not be informed about certain things.

In the beginning of the “pandemic”, Trump had to act on uncertainty – uncertainty about many things, including the origin of the virus, the motivations of all the players behind it, the science itself, and even the actual lethality of the virus. I don’t know what he was told that was classified at the time, but I suspect he WAS informed of SOME classified things in SOME areas. That is a multi-dimensional continuum – not a binary.

I suspect his context for decisions included some, but not all, classified aspects. All I know is that I trust that Trump did the best he could with what he was given.

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To me, this indicates the Malthusians aka British Empire has been in control. And to some extent still is. (See my Depop series especially Kissinger’s National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200.) Remember Kissinger said point blank during a Chatham House speech, he kept the Brits better informed than our US State Dept. Also Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum was a protegee of Kissinger.

PAVACA September 29, 2026 13:00

YOURS TRULY WARNED THIS BOARD ABOUT DR. ERICA SCHWARTZ, MD, Rear Adm (ret) WHEN SHE WAS CONFIRMED AS THE NEW CDC DIRECTOR — THE “QUEEN OF VACCINES.” THE “ENFORCER” OF THE PENTAGON’S COVID-19 BIOWEAPON “VACCINE” MANDATE ON THE U.S.MILITARY.

YOURS TRULY WARNED THIS BOARD ABOUT HOW HHS SEC. KENNEDY, JR., WAS BEING HOBBLED AND IS ESSENTIALLY USELESS.

See below: https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/staggering-surrender-cdc-pushes-covid-vaccines-healthy-people-label

My SWAG is Schwartz is placed within the government so she will most likely have to answer questions from Congress unlike Fauci.

Brave AI

 Refusing to testify without a valid legal basis is itself the offense.  Under 2 U.S.C. § 192, willfully failing to appear after a valid congressional subpoena, or refusing to answer pertinent questions once there, is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine. 

The CRS puts it plainly: a subpoena recipient “has a legal obligation to comply, absent a valid and overriding privilege or other legal justification.” So the legal basis is the only shield.  If an official can’t point to one — the Fifth Amendment, executive privilege, a recognized separation-of-powers conflict (e.g., the Secretary of State appearing at a major diplomatic event), attorney-client privilege, etc. — the refusal is contempt.

In practice, Congress has several enforcement levers when an official refuses without a valid basis:

She is also military so indictment would be via a military tribunal avoiding the Woke judges & juries of DC. It also allows RICO as she CONTINUES her pushing of the Clot Shots. (The five year window for the military is fast closing.)

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In order to not clutter up this article, I removed a collection of VARIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT THE CLOT SHOT AND mRNA VACCINES. If Treepers wish I can put them in a separate article so they do not get lost. They would have doubled the length of this article.

Dear MAGA: 20260929 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | The Woodlouse Hunter

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250123 ❀ In Highest Honor of Susie Sampson, Known to MAGA as Deplorable Patriot
Health Friday Open Thread 1.24.2025: In Memoriam Mira Persona, Susan P. Sampson (Deplorable Patriot)
DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250128 ❀ Call for Authors ❀ Scientific Opinions on the Medical Case of Susie Sampson

At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!

The Woodlouse Hunter

I have found a new spider expert on YouTube – or rather, the algorithm found a new one for me. This guy is slow, thorough, and meticulous. Enjoy this 45-minute presentation, about a spider you may well have in your house, or out in your yard. It has many unique features and behaviors.

That’s enough for now. Have a great Tuesday!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20260928 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Wolf’s Midnight Special!

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!

We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!

THE STUFF

Wolf’s Midnight Special!

Does anybody here remember The Midnight Special? In Concert? Or Don Kirschner’s Rock Concert?

I’m just gonna dump a few of my favorite earworms into a single post. Yeah, you’ve seen some of these before. However, there are some new ones here. Thanks to many of you (you know who you are) who introduced (or reintroduced) me to some of these great songs!

(1) My latest fave! AI Celtic Metal! “HEAVEN YEAH!!!”

(2) God Bless Spencer Pratt! STILL MY HERO!!!

(3) Yeah, it’s Monday. REMEMBER MONDAY!!!

(4) And while we’re remembering Monday, let’s remember Wheatietoo, who loved epic music and an orchestral group which performed it, called Two Steps From Hell.

From her post here…..

Dear MAGA: 20190316 Open Topic

(5) Linda also remembered this song video which Wheatie posted.

It’s been over 4 years since Wheatie passed. Vaya con Dios, sister!

(6) Here is a video posted on one of Deplorable Patriot’s blogs. I’ll provide a link to her extensive commentary on Catholic music.

https://thatcatholicwoman.blogspot.com/2023/02/catholic-church-music-good-and-bad-and.html

(7) Maybe you remember this one from the 2016 Trump rallies. It’s called “The American Dreamer” by Jacob Seales.

Those were the days! Ten years ago, my friends.

(8) Always good for a watch!

(9) And with that, I close out (well, almost) with one more AI Celtic Metal Hymn!

This is the song I was carrying in my heart back around January 6, 2021. And a little over 5 years later, hymns are arranging themselves, thanks to Maxwell’s equations, and a few others, built into the universe, waiting to be set free, to praise their own creator.

A salute to Steve, and all of my fellow J6ers, wherever you are now, in Colorado or otherwise.

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”

(10) Our God is indeed an Awesome God!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

KMAG DAILY THREAD 20260923 & The BORG FIGHTS BACK!

Site rules stolen from our good friend PAVACA

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Do not forget to LABEL AI articles, video and such.


I want to do a few quick and dirty hits on a couple of subjects.

From WIKI:

America PAC is a “Super PAC created by Elon Musk with the backing of a number of prominent tech businessmen to support Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign, and later used to support other conservative candidates and causes. The group’s primary purpose is to finance canvassing operations. Musk is the primary donor, with his contributions making up 91% of the declared contributions as of December 2024.”


VOTESAFE: Check your Voter Registration Paid for by America PAC. 

CNN HOAXES aka Psychological warfare

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At 21 minutes to 33 minutes LT of X-22 Reports goes over the CNN hoaxes. I do not have time to do a transcription plus many are video clips.

It was not until I did a bit of research on hemp, that I realized the anti-hemp rules probably originate in the EU/Cabal!

CORN & BIO-FUEL

2008 The Clean Energy Scam — TIME in parnership with CNN

(Time & CNN, ROTFLMAO!)

The Clean Energy Scam – The U.S. quintupled its production of ethanol–ethyl alcohol, a fuel distilled from plant matter–in the past decade, and Washington has just mandated another fivefold increase in renewable fuels over the next decade. Europe has similarly aggressive biofuel mandates and subsidies, and Brazil’s filling stations no longer even offer plain gasoline. Worldwide investment in biofuels rose from $5 billion in 1995 to $38 billion in 2005 and is expected to top $100 billion by 2010, thanks to investors like Richard Branson and George Soros, GE and BP, Ford and Shell, Cargill and the Carlyle Group.

2011 Industrial Agriculture’s Water Use: It’s Time for Change. Mother Earth News

Much of the water used to irrigate corn and refine ethanol is drawn from the ever-threatened Ogallala aquifer, which runs beneath eight western U.S. states and provides nearly a third of all U.S. irrigation water…

 The handful of giant agribusinesses and food processing companies that dominate the food chain keep farm prices low, which only pushes farmers to produce more. Most farmers resort to water-intensive and chemical-dependent practices to sell enough farm products to make a living.  

In the United States and around the world, only a few companies sell the seeds, buy the harvests, slaughter the livestock, and turn farm products into the food consumers buy. Farms that are far away from wealthy metropolitan areas are especially dependent on agribusiness buyers. The four largest firms in the United States slaughter 84 percent of the cattle, crush 80 percent of the soybeans and process 66 percent of the hogs. Even in recent years, when prices were higher, the few companies that sold seeds, fertilizers and fuel could jack up their prices, so higher production costs gobbled most of the gains from increased farm prices. Two corn seed firms (Monsanto and DuPont’s Pioneer Hi-Bred) control about 60 percent of the seed market and 80 percent of U.S. corn is grown from Monsanto-patented seed traits. In 2009 and 2010, the leading corn seed companies raised prices between 20 and 40 percent…

I could write an entire article on the bio-fuel scam and WHO benefits. Instead a few points. Fruits and veggies do not get USDA subsidies grains do. That means feed lot cows are subsidized by US tax payers making feed lots cheaper than grass. Many grains are GMO so the seed has to be bought each season, as well as the fertilizer & insecticides. Again ALL is tax payers funding Big Ag with the farmer as the conduit.

Understanding Nutrient Requirements for High-Yielding Corn

Typical fertilization for corn in the United States is 180 lbs of N, 90 lbs of P 2 O 5 and 160 lbs of K 2 0 per acre, with no S or micronutrients.

Hemp is a alternative source of bio-fuel.

Hemp Biofuel: Is This the Answer to Environmental Crisis? Royal Queen Seeds

…Using hemp for ethanol production curbs the potential problem of using too many food sources like corn and wheat. Ultimately, this makes food production more efficient while also minimising its disruption.

At the same time, hemp is much easier to grow compared to other food crops. They’re like weeds that can thrive in lower-quality conditions.

Hemp biodiesel also has a higher flash point, aka the temperature at which it ignites. Because of this, it is much easier to store, transport, and handle overall…

When it comes to hemp, there is a lot of conflict about fertilizers. Probably because it has a variety of uses.

Hemp Fertilizers – Do You Need a Special Kind?

Hemp is not a particularly demanding crop when it comes to fertilizer requirements. In fact, hemp is known to be quite tolerant of poor soil conditions.

Growing Industrial Hemp as an Organic – Rodale Institute

The use of no-tillage strategies without any weed control measures can be detrimental to hemp stand establishment. Nitrogen fertilization up to 150 kg ha–1 can increase fiber and seed yield. Leguminous cover crops can supply adequate nitrogen to hemp without supplemental fertilization as indicated by similar yields among nitrogen rates in treatments that included hairy vetch and winter pea. Although hemp density was low in the no-till cover crop treatment, greater bast fiber yield per stalk significantly increased the total fiber yield, making it comparable to conventional tillage treatments. This suggests that cover crops can be considered a positive investment for hemp production…

The crop is photoperiod sensitive and is typically a short-day plant. Hemp responds well to elevated CO2 and temperature levels in the context of current climate change scenarios and is a water-efficient crop…

Growers can take herbicides and other costly weed control measures off their inventory because hemp is a smoother crop and rapidly produces a dense canopy that suppresses weeds. This makes it a perfect choice for organic production. 

Let’s save American hemp

What Is Industrial Hemp? Definition, Uses & U.S. Rules

 Industrial hemp is Cannabis sativa L. grown commercially for fiber, grain/seed, and other lawful products, with U.S. federal law defining compliance through THC testing and licensing. USDA hemp production · Hemp vs. marijuana vs. CBD · Hemp University

An exceptionally versatile plant, industrial hemp has a wide range of industrial and everyday household uses, and the commercial market for hemp products is booming worldwide. Products made from hemp are considered long-lasting and eco-friendly. Hemp derived CBD products are also proving to be incredible for our health and well being. It is not What is Hemp but what can hemp do for us in our quest for sustainability!…

With the passage of the Farm Bill in 2018, hemp cultivation has commenced in numerous states. Yet, the question extends beyond mere definition; it’s now about understanding what hemp can do for individuals and our environment, and what we can do to harness its potential. Now, hemp oils, CBD, hemp plastics, hemp building materials, and various hemp fiber products are readily available in the market.

Hemp is the low tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) variety of the Cannabis Sativa plant, containing minimal THC content as mandated by federal law—specifically less than 0.3% THC by dry weight. This distinction ensures that industrial hemp does not induce any psychoactive effects associated with marijuana. However, hemp and marijuana often face confusion, which can be clarified through our hemp vs. marijuana page….

Dec 19, 2025 — President Trump’s Executive Order to Save Hemp

PRESIDENT TRUMP DIRECTED CONGRESS TO FIX HEMP. NOW THEY MUST ACT.

President Trump issued an executive order directing Congress to reconsider the classification of hemp-derived products to ensure Americans, like our seniors, can access hemp-derived products they have found beneficial while still protecting children. The President gave clear direction. Now Congress must follow through. The McConnell-Harris hemp restrictions threaten to destroy 325,000 American jobs, devastate thousands of farmers and small businesses, and deny seniors access to CBD products that President Trump wants them to have. President Trump provided the solution: protect children through regulation while preserving consumer access to beneficial CBD and hemp-derived products. The hemp industry has offered exactly the common-sense regulations President Trump’s order calls for: -Age restrictions (21+) to protect children -Mandatory third-party laboratory testing for safety -Clear, uniform labeling for informed choices -Child-resistant packaging standards Contact your Representative and Senators today. Tell them to immediately act on President Trump’s executive order, fix the McConnell-Harris hemp ban, and implement the common-sense regulations that protect farmers, small business owners, consumers, and children. Let’s save American hemp and tell Congress to act on President Trump’s directive.

This excerpt is direct from HIFA. Please click the link to sign the next petition to move forward with a two year extension. https://hifa.health/contact-your-lawmakers/

Call Your Lawmakers – No Redirect
Hemp Facts

Congress pushes hemp crackdown after pressure from states

A provision significantly limiting the sale of intoxicating hemp products made its way into legislation to reopen the federal government just a day before the Senate approved the bill. Its inclusion follows years of pressure from states and the marijuana industry.

While states continue to expand access to legal marijuana, a separate market of hemp-derived intoxicants has blossomed. The products, from drinks to gummies, are sold in gas stations and smoke shops. Critics say some companies have exploited a legal loophole from 2018 to manufacture products that get people high — without the safety regulations and taxes facing the legal marijuana industry.

That’s led dozens of states to limit or ban certain intoxicating hemp products. Most states also have pushed for federal changes, though some farm states worry the pending federal bill — which the House is expected to vote on as soon as today — goes too far.

A bipartisan group of 39 state attorneys general recently urged Congress to clarify the federal definition of hemp, arguing that the underregulated industry threatens public health and undermines law enforcement…

Senate Rejects Attempt To Save Hemp Industry

The Senate has rejected an amendment to a critical spending bill that would have removed language to ban hemp products containing THC.

After the chamber cleared the appropriations minibus package for floor consideration on Sunday, senators on Monday took up the measure from Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) that he said would prevent the eradication of the hemp market that’s matured since the crop’s federal legalization under the 2018 Farm Bill.

The amendment was killed in a 76-24 vote on a motion to table.

“My amendment would strip the provision designed to regulate the hemp industry to death. The bill, as it now stands, overrides the regulatory frameworks of several states, cancels the collective decisions of hemp consumers and destroys the livelihoods of hemp farmers,” Paul said on the floor ahead of the vote. “And it couldn’t come at a worse time for America’s farmers. Times are tough for our farmers.”…

How about we outlaw the Senate instead? They certainly have been ANTI-AMERICAN!

Cannabis as a treatment for COVID-19

(I used to have the scientific study but brave bookmarks lost it.)

CBD Oil: What are 9 Proven or Possible Health Benefits

Cannabis is a plant, and there are two main types, Cannabis Indica and Cannabis Sativa. Both marijuana and CBD can be derived from both types, but hemp is only derived from Cannabis Sativa. By law, hemp must contain no more than 0.3% THC…

 CBD has been credited with relieving numerous medical conditions, such as epilepsy, anxiety, inflammation, insomnia, and pain. Although “credited” does not mean proven. Because of the historical regulatory landscape, there are hardly any well-conducted trials backing up those claims, although research is expected to ramp up now that laws distinguish between hemp and marijuana.

We look at nine medical conditions where CBD may be, or, has already proven to be, beneficial.

1. Epilepsy

In June 2018, the FDA approved Epidiolex (a plant-based formulation of CBD) to treat seizures for people 2 years of age and older with Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which are two rare forms of epilepsy… [ I have 2 friends that use it for epilepsy with sucess]

2. Pain

Animal studies have shown that CBD has anti-inflammatory effects and works on the endocannabinoid and pain-sensing systems to relieve pain… [I got off of NSAIDs by using CBD oil.]

3. Arthritis

Animal studies showed that topical CBD applications relieve pain and inflammation associated with arthritis with few side effects…

4. Anxiety

Pretreatment with 300mg CBD significantly relieved anxiety in 57 healthy males who undertook a simulated public speaking test. However, dosages of 150mg CBD and 600mg CBD did not make any difference to the men’s anxiety levels.7

So CBD threatens Big Pharma. However I found this part of my research ‘interesting’

Industrial uses of Hemp

The Wonders of Industrial Hemp: Versatile and Eco-Friendly — Amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com

Amstedam is the Capital of the Netherlands

The versatility of industrial hemp extends beyond its use as a raw material. 

Unleashing a New Wave of Sustainable Practices with Industrial Hemp

Industrial hemp, this incredible plant, stands tall as an embodiment of versatility. A crop whose potential extends far beyond its rustic exterior, transforming into an eco-friendly powerhouse with an impressive array of applications spanning numerous industries…

Industrial hemp, scientifically known as Cannabis sativa L., has served humanity for centuries, providing fiber, food, and medicinal benefits. Today, its role has expanded, becoming increasingly important as a sustainable and eco-friendly solution within various industries.

By integrating hemp into numerous manufacturing processes, industries can lessen their dependence on non-renewable resources and significantly reduce their environmental footprint. The inherent versatility and functional characteristics of hemp make it an ideal candidate for substitution, driving it to the forefront of sustainable development.

Moreover, hemp cultivation offers additional benefits such as soil remediation. By absorbing toxins and replenishing soil nutrients, hemp promotes healthier soils, which in turn, benefit subsequent crops…

Corporate giants such as Ford Motors, Patagonia, and The Body Shop have already recognized the profound potential of this sustainable resource, utilizing hemp seed, fiber, and oil as fundamental raw materials in their product lines. This level of corporate adoption serves as a testament to the staggering potential that industrial hemp offers as an environmentally conscious substitute for other resources.

Below are a few ways industrial hemp is already making its mark across industries:

  1. Automotive, Railway, Aviation, and Aerospace: These industries are progressively embracing hemp-derived products as substitutes for traditional plastic materials. Hemp’s lightweight yet durable nature and biodegradable properties position it as a superior alternative to conventional plastics.
  2. Cosmetics and Personal Care: The nutritive richness of hemp seed oil has found applications in numerous industrial and cosmetic products. From soaps and shampoos to other personal care items, the moisturizing properties and skin-nourishing abilities of hemp seed oil make it a coveted ingredient within the cosmetics and personal care sectors.
  3. Textiles, Fabrics, and Paper Manufacturing: Hemp fiber’s application in the production of textiles, fabrics, and paper is truly a game-changer. It offers an eco-friendly alternative to traditional textile materials, requiring less water and fewer pesticides during cultivation, with the added advantage of being easily recyclable…

…

Industrial Hemp Uses: Fibre, Paper, Materials — Justbob Lyon France.

Reading industrial hemp uses across fibre, paper and materials

Industrial hemp is one of the oldest agricultural crops on the European continent. Beyond the modern cannabinoid catalog, the plant supplies fibre for textiles and ropes, hurd for construction biocomposites, paper for specialty applications and seed fractions for the wider agricultural framework. This Justbob guide walks through industrial hemp uses sector by sector, with the regulatory framework that connects the cultivation side to each application…

Industrial hemp uses cover the non-cannabinoid applications of Cannabis sativa L. cultivated under the EU industrial hemp framework. The main categories include textiles (canvas, rope, twine and modern fabrics), paper (specialty applications), construction biocomposites (hempcrete walls, insulation panels), automotive components (door panels and trim parts), agricultural substrates (animal bedding and horticulture) and biorefinery feedstock…

Textile applications: from canvas to modern fabrics

Textile production is one of the oldest documented uses of hemp fibre in European industry. Canvas, the heavy fabric traditionally used for sails, tents, and painting supports; rope, widely used in maritime, agricultural, and construction settings; twine, commonly found in packaging, gardening, and crafts; and modern technical fabrics all rely on the bast fibre extracted from the hemp stem.

The mechanical properties of hemp textile fibre are well documented. The tensile strength supports applications where durability matters more than a fine weave, while its natural resistance to mildew and pests adds value in maritime and outdoor settings. Its breathability and moisture handling propriety make hemp textile interesting for modern clothing and home textiles.

Paper applications: specialty papers and durability

Paper applications represent another long-standing industrial use of hemp. The long bast fibres give hemp paper a stronger tensile profile and a longer fibre length than typical wood-pulp paper, making it suitable for specialty applications where these properties are particularly valuable.

Documented use cases include banknotes, where the strong tensile profile and the resistance to repeated handling are well suited to the application; archival papers (the low lignin content supports long-term stability; and technical papers, including filter papers, art papers, and thin technical papers. Hemp paper is also a feedstock for some specialty paper producers in France and Italy that supply niche markets.

The USDA published the foundational bulletin Hemp Hurds as Paper-Making Material in 1916, documenting the technical feasibility of hemp paper at industrial scale. The bulletin is still referenced in contemporary hemp economy literature as one of the early modern studies on this application.

Hempcrete and construction biocomposites

Hempcrete is the most visible modern application of hemp hurd in construction. This biocomposite combines hemp hurd with a lime binder to produce wall infill, insulation and structural-light applications. The French Isochanvre product was introduced around 1986 as one of the first commercial hempcrete formulations…


There is a LOT more…

WHY THE ORIGINAL ATTACK ON HEMP?

There was a comment about Hemp on WUWT by Dr Brown in August of 2013. He refers to something Dr Judith Curry said that I can no longer find.

[I do not have the origin of this quote]

The story goes …Dupont had patented nylon, and wanted hemp removed as competition….

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

Its said that industrial hemp converts CO2 to oxygen better than trees.

‘Do you have a link?’

[Hemp “more effective than trees” at carbon storage –2021Cambridge Univ]

I havn’t come across anything tangible (of an academic nature) but there must be tons out there. I’ll keep looking, but in the meantime here are some numbers from HempNews.

‘It follows that every tonne of industrial hemp stems contains 0.445 tonnes Carbon absorbed from the atmosphere (44.46% of stem dry weight).

‘Converting Carbon to CO2 (12T of C equals 44T of CO2(IPCC)), that represents 1.63 tonnes of CO2 absorption per tonne of UK Hemp stem harvested. On a land use basis, using Hemcore’s yield averages (5.5 to 8 T/ha), this represents 8.9 to 13.4 tonnes of CO2 absorption per hectare of UK Hemp Cultivation.

‘For the purposes estimation, we use an average figure of 10T/ha of CO2 absorption, a figure we hold to be a reasonably conservative estimate. This is used to predict carbon yields, but CO2 offsets will be based on dry weight yields as measured at the weighbridge.

‘The roots and leaf mulch (not including the hard to measure fibrous root material) left in situ represented approximately 20% of the mass of the harvested material in HGS’ initial field trials. The resulting Carbon content absorbed but remaining in the soil, will therefore be approximately 0.084 tonnes per tonne of harvested material. (42% w/w) (5).

‘Using Hemcore’s UK yield estimates (5.5 – 8 T/ha) this represents 0.46 to 0.67 tonnes of Carbon per hectare (UK) absorbed but left in situ after Hemp cultivation.’ [So in 2013 the UK was growing hemp but it was banned in the USA.]


Dr Brown rgbatduke said on August 22, 2013 at 5:44 am

Judith Curry’s remarks, as usual, are dead on the money. Here’s an almost perfectly analogous problem: CNN recently completely reversed its editorial policy and now calls for the legalization of Marijuana. Sanjay Gupta, its “resident physician editorialist”, who had previously somewhat vigorously led this opposition from the scientific point of view completely reversed his own position, and explained why in considerable detail both in text and in online video.


Historically, marijuana was both legal and considered to be a useful medicine all the way up through the beginning of the twentieth century. At that point, William Randolph Hearst had invested heavily in pine forests in Mexico, intending to sell them to his own newspapers to make newsprint. The Dupont family were discovering petrochemicals including plastic and oil-derived pharmaceuticals. A machine was invented that was the equivalent of a “cotton gin” for hemp — it mechanically stripped down the hemp plant and turned it into useful fiber, oil, and vegetable waste that could be used as an animal fodder (yes, we can imagine some very happy cows, can’t we?:-). One of many uses for the now inexpensive hemp fiber was to make equally inexpensive newsprint paper that was clearly superior in quality and cost to wood pulp paper. Another was that the oils and fiber could be used to synthesize various chemical products. Both Dupont and Hearst were suddenly hundreds of millions of dollars at risk.


They turned to Harry Anslinger, who happened to be Hearst’s brother in law. Anslinger was a suddenly idle ex-prohibitionist working for the FBI, and he created a propaganda campaign that portrayed hemp as literally maddening those that actually smoked it, leading them to commit acts of rape and robbery and moral turpitude. At the same time, political revolutions in Mexico (funded and fought by a private army belonging to Hearst) and a negative portrayal of blacks and mexicans as common users of hemp for recreation purposes added a useful racist hook. Between these, congress outlawed hemp.


So matters remained until the Viet Nam war and the 1960s and early 70s. As part of the quiet “revolution” against what many perceived as a military-industrial complex with a life of its own that was fighting a series of expensive and pointless wars, pot had become “the” recreational drug of choice among young hippies and freaks as well as the military draftees who fought the war. Its use was so prevalent that Texas dropped the question about cannabis use from its entrance exam to police academy, because “asking a vet of they had ever smoked pot was like asking them if they smoked Camels”. Suddenly a large fraction of an entire generation of U.S. citizens had smoked pot and discovered that no, it does not turn you into a crazed rapist, and usually does not make you insane unless you are most of the way there on your own already. They also discovered that it is neither physically addictive nor dangerous in the sense that it is literally impossible to overdose on marijuana — it is literally one of the safest compounds we know of, with no meaningful fatal dose.


However, Ronald Reagan took office in the 80’s, an immediately declared a “War on Drugs”. Marijuana was reclassified as a schedule 1 narcotic by the federal government, trumping communities that had already begun to experiment with decriminalization or even legalization. This once again gave law enforcement agencies lots of useful work (helpful if you are trying to build a police state), gave cops everywhere the ability to selectively enforce drug laws and thereby control the populace, and caused us to rather suddenly need to build enormous numbers of prisons because it rapidly turned out that by making marijuana trafficking a felony and putting even mere users in jail (just like heroin, cocaine, and actually dangerous drugs) somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of all prison sentences were being handed down for low grade drug offenses. Our expenditure on controlling pot went from next to nothing to tens of billions of dollars a year. Obviously, many profited from this, including (as usual) the money launderers and organized criminals that made fortunes providing marijuana on the black market, and the politicians and bankers that provided well-paid-for top cover.


And now to the interesting bit (although I think all of the above is interesting:-). One of the reasons given for making marijuana a schedule 1 felony class drug was that we didn’t know about the harm it might cause, and there was no known medical benefit. Yes, it had been used as a medicine for centuries, the founding fathers literally “mandated” the growing of hemp on American farms because it was so useful a plant both industrially and medicinally, but we had entered the era of double blind placebo controlled drug trials, and there were now enormous pharmaceutical companies whose billion-dollar products were at risk, dwarfing even the Duponts’ complaint back in the 30’s. Its risks were similarly unstudied.


A period of research then ensued. If you wanted to study pot, you had to both get funded and get the experimental marijuana from a single, small farm in Mississippi that grew “legal” pot for this purpose. The government itself was in complete control, in other words of what research got conducted, because even if you could find outside funding, you couldn’t get legal pot to do the research with without approval.


Gupta initially opposed marijuana legalization because a review of the medical literature showed him that 96% of all published articles found some sort of negative effect of marijuana, and almost no articles showed a benefit, especially compared to existing approved medications. However, a couple of anecdotal cases coming out of the states that had legalized medicinal marijuana in SPITE of the federal governments laws caused him to go back and reexamine the funding model. In retrospect it shouldn’t have been surprising, but he learned that 96% of all funded research was to look for negative effects of marijuana, and that to get funded and permission to get government grown pot was so difficult that there simply weren’t all that many papers in the first place. In well over thirty years of intensive examination, all of the examination was literally preselected to find problems, almost none to find benefits, and one had to walk on water and push much paper to do either one (and relatively few scientists had bothered).


That caused him to examine the body of emerging, still anecdotal, evidence from the states that had legalized medical marijuana. They showed that — again unsurprisingly — marijuana is a rich pharmacopeia with multiple legitimate medical uses that could survived double blind placebo controlled investigation, while at the same time having minimal side effects and no known lethal dose. Perhaps he came to realize that its negative effects might, conceivably, have been a bit exaggerated or might arise from confounding uncontrolled elements. Confirmation bias is, after all, the bete noir of science.


This situation almost perfectly matches the evolution of “climate science”. Nobody cared about it for decades, but suddenly a group of individuals emerged that all benefited from the demonization of carbon. This included environmental groups, that hated civilization itself and the burning of anything (as long, of course, as their own lifestyle was preserved), energy producers that saw in this the opportunity to triple or quadruple their profits by creating artificial scarcity of a plentiful resource, politicians that saw in this the opportunity to raise taxes, get elected on a world-saving “issue”, and perhaps line their own pockets along the way, and a United Nations that saw an opportunity to transform it into a way to tax the rich nations and transfer money to developing nations (while again lining various pockets along the way). The role of Anslinger was admirably met by one James Hansen, a True Believer who never stinted and does not stint today in exaggerating the data and claims of disaster (five meter sea level rise! temperatures like that on Venus!). And suddenly, quite literally all funded research was on how burning carbon was bad for the climate.


Even completely ethical scientists have to eat, and if the only way they can eat is to get funded, and the only way they can get funded is to submit proposals that seek to prove that CO_2 is bad, guess what they will propose to study? And if they want to get funded AGAIN, guess what they will find? Climate science has been effectively corrupted beyond any hope of objectivity.


On the good side of things, scientists are actually usually pretty ethical. Also, in the end data talks, bullshit walks. The hypothesis of CAGW or CACC could, in fact, be true (across a wide spectrum of the meaning of “true”, in fact). However, recent data is not in good correspondence with the theories that have predicted it, and many good scientists are in the process of reassessing their conclusions. As is the almost simultaneous case with regard to marijuana, the confounding evidence is starting to overwhelm to narrowly funded and directed arguments to date. We will see where the future takes us, in both cases.
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mikerossander says on August 22, 2013 at 12:40 pm

re: rgbatduke’s extended history at August 22, 2013 at 5:44 am:

One correction – Nixon is the moron who declared a “War on Drugs”. Congress made marijuana into a Schedule I narcotic in 1970. Pres Reagan may be guilty of a lot but he is innocent of that particular charge above.

Other items of interest from my notes.

Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew in ’74

In 1974 researchers learned that THC, the active chemical in marijuana, shrank or destroyed brain tumors in test mice. But the DEA quickly shut down the study and destroyed its results, which were never replicated — until now.

The term medical marijuana took on dramatic new meaning in February, 2000 when researchers in Madrid announced they had destroyed incurable brain tumors in rats by injecting them with THC, the active ingredient in cannabis.

The Madrid study marks only the second time that THC has been administered to tumor-bearing animals; the first was a Virginia investigation 26 years ago. In both studies, the THC shrank or destroyed tumors in a majority of the test subjects.

Most Americans don’t know anything about the Madrid discovery. Virtually no major U.S. newspapers carried the story, which ran only once on the AP and UPI news wires, on Feb. 29, 2000…

2008 — The Greatest Story Never Told

Smoking Cannabis Does Not Cause Cancer
Of Lung or Upper Airways, Tashkin Finds;
Data Suggest Possible Protective Effect

The story summarized by that headline ran in O’Shaughnessy’s (Autumn 2005), CounterPunch, and the Anderson Valley Advertiser. Did we win Pulitzers, dude? No, the story was ignored or buried by the corporate media. It didn’t even make the “Project Censored” list of under-reported stories for 2005. “We were even censored by Project Censored,” said Tod Mikuriya, who liked his shot of wry. 

It’s not that the subject is trivial. One in three Americans will be afflicted with cancer, we are told by the government (as if it’s our immutable fate and somehow acceptable). Cancer is the second leading cause of death in the U.S. and lung cancer the leading killer among cancers. You’d think it would have been very big news when UCLA medical school professor Donald Tashkin revealed that components of marijuana smoke -although they damage cells in respiratory tissue- somehow prevent them from becoming malignant. In other words, something in marijuana exerts an anti-cancer effect.

Tashkin has special credibility. He was the lead investigator on studies dating back to the 1970s that identified the components in marijuana smoke that are toxic. It was Tashkin et al who published photomicrographs showing that marijuana smoke damages cells lining the upper airways. It was the Tashkin lab reporting that benzpyrene -a component of tobacco smoke that plays a role in most lung cancers- is especially prevalent in marijuana smoke. It was Tashkin’s data documenting that marijuana smokers are more likely than non-smokers to cough, wheeze, and produce sputum.

Tashkin reviewed his findings April 4 at a conference organized by “Patients Out of Time,” a reform group devoted to educating doctors and the public (as opposed to lobbying politicians). Some 30 MDs and nurses got continuing medical education credits for attending… [long article]

Cannabinoids: potential anticancer agents

Published: December 2003. Cannabinoids: potential anticancer agents. … Other potential palliative effects of cannabinoids in cancer patients — supported by Phase III clinical trials — include appetite stimulation and pain inhibition.

Dear MAGA: 20260922 ❀ DePat Tuesday ❀ Open Topic | Wolf’s Report on Political Brawling in Ohio

This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.

For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250123 ❀ In Highest Honor of Susie Sampson, Known to MAGA as Deplorable Patriot
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At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.

DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.

It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.

And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!

Wolf’s Report on Political Brawling in Ohio

The attack ads are flying everywhere now.

At first it was mostly Democrats attacking Republicans, but now it’s the other way around.

TRANS is being exploited as an issue, far more than I would have expected.

Here’s another one.

The comments are awesome – people realize what Sherrod Brown’s voting record actually is.

Here was my comment.

IMO it’s the PAC ads that are most effective. Some of them are truly devastating.

In contrast, the Dem ads against John Husted and Vivek try to paint them as corrupt, but IMO people just aren’t buying it, and the ads are far from convincing.

Speaking of Vivek, his opponent, Lockdown Amy, is getting cringer and cringer.

Mehek Cooke is a GOP activist who once ran for office for something, and IMO was cheated out of a win, but found her true calling as a party person rather than a candidate.

UGH!!!

But it gets worse. Lots worse.

🚨THIS is the woman asking Ohio to hand her the keys to the governor’s office? NO WAY!

Amy Acton gets onstage and this is the performance Ohio voters are supposed to look at and think, “Yep, that’s who I want running the state”?

Watch the video. Make up your own mind.

But here’s what I want to see next: put her on a debate stage with Vivek Ramaswamy.

2 candidates standing across from each other answering for what they believe and what they plan to do with Ohio.

If Amy Acton wants the job, she should be willing to make her case directly to the people she wants to govern.

🔥Ohio deserves the debate.
Let’s see it.

I can tell you – this woman will not do well in a debate, other than getting all the sympathy votes.

And some later breaking news – Husted is looking GREAT in his videos, directly attacking Sherrod Brown’s record, while Sherrod Brown is trying to excuse his way out of his TRANS votes.

Vivek is also firing confidently back at Lockdown Amy.

And now they’re going after Sherrod Brown for being too weak to stand up to the socialists. TRUTH!!!

Things are heating up, but the GOP is doing pretty well, IMO.

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

Dear KMAG: 20260921 ❀ Wheatie Monday ❀ Open Topic | Only YOU Can Stop the Spread of Obola!

This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!

We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is STILL under DIRECT THREATS by hostile forces – notably COMMUNISTS – and they’re HERE IN AMERICA.

Daily outrage and commie phuckery still abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Commies won’t win!

And we will keep saying COMMIES OUT until we get their FRAUD and INSANITY out of our country!

THE STUFF

Only YOU Can Stop the Spread of Obola!

Fall has arrived, and fall is the time of year when the community-organizing disease called Obola once again becomes a concern.

Fall is also – like spring – a time of year when I will likely have much work to do, both at home and “out in the world” – wherever this wonderful life takes me. I will not be around this site as much – not until winter confines me inside the house, and puts me back online every day, like summer does.

And as I said, fall is a dangerous time when the viral plague of OBOLA spreads, causing – or rather attempting to cause – much pain and suffering. This site is – sadly – somewhat susceptible to Obola. The first symptoms of Obola are fear, loathing, anger and division.

There is a documented rise in the occurrence of Obola right now. Here are some report of outbreaks in America.

Blowhard Obama Is Back to Stoke AI Fears

byJ.B. Shurk

September 17, 2026

in Opinions, Original

https://americafirstreport.com/blowhard-obama-is-back-to-stoke-ai-fears/

Finally, a deep history of Obola, from a doctor!

The Obama Machine: Netflix Was Only the Beginning
From storytelling and “misinformation” to the regulation of AI
“That is why the question of whether Netflix has become “woke” now seems almost quaint. Netflix is only one piece of a much larger struggle over who gets to shape the stories Americans hear, which information Americans find, and increasingly which answers their machines are permitted to give them. Ronald Reagan famously warned that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. The modern threat to that freedom may not arrive wearing jackboots or carrying a list of banned books. It may arrive promising safety, inclusion, equity, responsible information, and the protection of democracy itself.”
To read this most powerful essay, go to:

Because I may be away from this site for extended periods of time during October and November, as well as the remainder of September, I am taking this opportunity to remind people of how we can stop Obola from spreading on this site.

  • Authors need to leave all moderated posts IN THE BIN during my absence. Let me deal with them.
  • The Scroll Wheel. Use it. It has the power to save your day – and your sanity. It’s like Vitamin D for Obola!
  • Let people be wrong on the internet. There is ALWAYS one more WRONG person – let them be wrong!
  • Fear is the mind-killer. Make it go away.
  • If you feel like you are “running with scissors” – STOP. Take a break. “Touch grass” as they say.
  • Don’t feel bad if you find out that you posted FAKE NEWS. It happens. Just correct it and leave it, so that people can see the correction. TEACH how to identify, verify, and expose their LIES.
  • Try to avoid hardening divisions with other factions of patriots. Let them be them. You be you!
  • Taking a break is better than running away in a huff and “never coming back”. Try it!
  • PMTW (PRIVATE MESSAGE TO WOLF) – use it if you need to get a message to me. Do it on one of MY posts on MY days (Monday or Tuesday) if you want complete privacy. Use underscores between the words. If it goes in the bin, you’re good to go!
  • TRUST TRUMP. If you have doubts – if you are scared – TRUST TRUMP. And if that doesn’t work…..
  • TRUST GOD.

I plan to have some very interesting new information for you all by Christmas.

We are almost at the equinox, which is 8:05 PM EDT on Tuesday, September 22, here in North America.

God Bless, and have a Fairly Epic Fall Equinox!

W

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W

KMAG DAILY THREAD 20260917 & Trump vs The Oligarchs part II

Site rules stolen from our good friend PAVACA

There are Important Notifications from our host, Wolf Moon; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and, certain caveats from Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. They are linked here. Note: Yours Truly has checked today’s post for any AI-generated content. To the best of her knowledge and belief, there is none. If readers wish to post any AI-generated content in the discussion thread for today’s post, they must cite their source. Thank you.

Do not forget to LABEL AI articles, video and such.

For fun, from one half of the Prussiagate team known as Will Zol.


Trump’s “Oranges” Slip Was A Clue – Nobody Caught It For 7 Years (43 minutes)

Tim Burn’s X account & Substack

https://prussiagate.substack.com

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I am going to start with how things stand today. In reading X-22 on Wednesday I realized there was a tweet that fits very well with this article so I am adding it here at the top of the page.


TEXT:

Flopping Aces @FloppingAces

Tell people they’re going to die.

Then tell them only you can save them.

That’s the oldest trick in the book, and the AI doom machine is running it at full throttle.

First comes the extinction warning: greater than a 10% chance AI kills humanity within a decade.

Then comes the amplification.

A near-empty account detonates across X. Aligned groups pile on.

The press lights up.

Politicians rush to the cameras.

Then comes the panic.

Bernie Sanders points to the hysteria and demands a halt.

Regulators smell jurisdiction.

Washington starts reaching for the leash.

And then the real product appears.

A federal AI regulator.

Central monitoring.

Mandatory controls.

Rollback requirements.

Compliance regimes so expensive and bureaucratic that only the richest frontier labs can survive them.

Open source gets strangled first.

Why? Because once open weights are released, they cannot be recalled.

They cannot be shoved back into a corporate vault.

They cannot be centrally controlled by decree.

So “safety” becomes the velvet glove around the choke chain. Government gets the power.

The biggest labs get the moat. The public gets fewer choices.

And the same companies screaming that AI could end civilization get to sit inside the regulatory fortress they helped justify.

What a fucking coincidence.

Create the nightmare. Amplify the nightmare.

Turn the nightmare into policy. Use the policy to crush the decentralized alternative.

Then consolidate the technology in the hands of the people who spent the last year warning us they might destroy the world with it.

They feed the machine apocalypse and harvest power from the panic.

Fear is the sales pitch. Control is the product. (article below)

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The Network of Global Corporate Control

 …we find that only 737 top holders accumulate 80% of the control over the value of all TNCs [Trans National Corporations] …This means that network control is much more unequally distributed than wealth. In particular, the top ranked actors hold a control ten times bigger than what could be expected based on their wealth…

…In detail, nearly 4/10 of the control over the economic value of TNCs in the world is held, via a complicated web of ownership relations, by a group of 147 TNCs in the core, which has almost full control over itself. The top holders within the core can thus be thought of as an economic “super-entity” in the global network of corporations. A relevant additional fact at this point is that 3/4 of the core are financial intermediaries….

FORBES: The 147 Companies That Control Everything

and

FORBES: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝟭𝟰𝟳 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗢𝘄𝗻 𝗘𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

There may be 147 companies in the world that own everything, as colleague Bruce Upbin points out and they are dominated by investment companies as Eric Savitz rightly points out. But it’s not you and I who really control those companies, even though much of our money is in them. Given the nature of how money is invested, there are four companies in the shadows that 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 control those companies that own everything.

Before I reveal them, some light math:

According to the 2011 annual factbook from the Investment Company Institute, there is $24.7 trillion in all the mutual funds in the world (a little less than half from the US). Based on data from the ICI, $1.24 trillion of this is directly invested in index funds, plus another $992 billion in assets beyond that $24.7 trillion in Exchange Traded Funds, which aren’t mutual funds but are index funds. That means the bulk of that money is in “active” managed funds or fund of funds.

.the chief of hedge funds at a very large asset manager told me last week (alas, I cannot identify either) that an internal study his firm recently performed found that the vast majority of mutual funds defined as actively managed see 95% of the assets they hold determined by an index. That means just 5% of actively managed funds really are driven by the active manager’s judgment….

So of the $25.69 trillion in worldwide assets we’ve identified, $2.23 trillion are directly in indexes (ETFs and index mutual funds) with another $22.3 trillion indirectly beholden to indexes (that 95% of actively managed fund holdings said to be determined by an index).

You can see where I’m headed here. That means the real power to control the world lies with four companies: McGraw-Hill, which owns Standard & Poor’s, Northwestern Mutual, which owns Russell Investments, the index arm of which runs the benchmark Russell 1,000 and Russell 3,000, CME Group which owns 90% of Dow Jones Indexes, and Barclay’s, which took over Lehman Brothers and its Lehman Aggregate Bond Index, the dominant world bond fund index. Together, these four firms dominate the world of indexing. And in turn, that means they hold real sway over the world’s money…


And FYI from Brave AI:

Robert Maxwell, the late British media tycoon and father of Ghislaine Maxwell, did not own McGraw-Hill but formed a major joint venture with the company in 1989. Through his U.S. subsidiary Macmillan Inc., Maxwell merged his educational publishing assets with McGraw-Hill’s to create Macmillan/McGraw-Hill School Publishing Co., which became the nation’s largest or second-largest textbook publisher depending on the source.

Small world… Does all the Corporate Woke Schiff now make sense?

The financiers then made the next move. Using corporate money to influence the US elections. I very much disagree with this SCOTUS decision. Corporations ARE NOT PEOPLE!

 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) — Federalist Society


By a 5-to-4 vote along ideological lines, the majority held that under the First Amendment corporate funding of independent political broadcasts in candidate elections cannot be limited. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the majority joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts and Justices Antonin G. Scalia, Samuel A. Alito, and Clarence Thomas. Justice John Paul Stevens dissented, joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer, and Sonia Sotomayor. The majority maintained that political speech is indispensable to a democracy, which is no less true because the speech comes from a corporation. The majority also held that the BCRA’s disclosure requirements as applied to The Movie were constitutional, reasoning that disclosure is justified by a “governmental interest” in providing the “electorate with information” about election-related spending resources. The Court also upheld the disclosure requirements for political advertising sponsors and it upheld the ban on direct contributions to candidates from corporations and unions. In a separate concurring opinion, Chief Justice Roberts, joined by Justice Alito, emphasized the care with which the Court handles constitutional issues and its attempts to avoid constitutional issues when at all possible. Here, the Court had no narrower grounds upon which to rule, except to handle the First Amendment issues embodied within the case. Justice Scalia also wrote a separate concurring opinion, joined by Justices Alito and Thomas in part, criticizing Justice Stevens’ understanding of the Framer’s view towards corporations. Justice Stevens argued that corporations are not members of society and that there are compelling governmental interests to curb corporations’ ability to spend money during local and national elections.

Citizens United | Brennan Center for Justice

In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled that corporations and others have a First Amendment right to raise and spend unlimited money on elections. Few modern Supreme Court decisions have received as much public attention, or backlash, as Citizens United v. FEC. The U.S. has since seen a surge in megadonors and a rise in dark money, or undisclosed campaign donations. A tiny sliver of Americans now wield more power than at any time since Watergate, too often at the expense of ordinary citizens whose needs are not prioritized. 


On top of influencing elections, corporations (and NGOs) use their large amounts of cash to lobby Congress.

Lobbying America: The Politics of Business from Nixon to NAFTA

CHAPTER 6 Uncertain Victory: BIG BUSINESS AND THE POLITICS OF REGULATORY REFORM (pp. 174-200)

The Business Roundtable [a nonprofit association of 200+ CEOs of major U.S. companies, founded in 1972 in Washington, D.C.- GC] helped define corporate lobbying in Washington, D.C., in the 1970s, but for twenty years the group also maintained an office in New York City, where it kept its administrative and strategic planning functions geographically separate from its lobbying. From its prehistory at the Links Club on 62nd Street, the Roundtable bounced around Manhattan’s hot real estate locations, including stints on Wall Street, Broad Street, and Lexington Avenue. From 1978 until its final move south in 1993, member CEOs and professional staff members, particularly those who worked on nonlobbying issues like construction industry negotiations..

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The author of the following article is Stephen D. Foster, Jr., a flaming liberal who holds a Bachelor’s Degree in History and Political Science from Missouri University of Science and Technology. However I do think he has a point. Given the East India Company, I do not think corporations were looked on with favor by the Founding Fathers.

How would the Founding Fathers feel about corporations?

…To say that the founding fathers supported corporations is very absurd. Its quite the opposite in fact. Corporations like the East India Trading Company were despised by the founding fathers and they were just one reason why they chose to revolt against England. Corporations represented the moneyed interests much like they do today and they often wielded political power, sometimes to the point of governing a colony all by themselves like the Massachusetts Bay Company did.

… At the time, in Britain, large corporations funded elections generously and its stock was owned by nearly everyone in parliament. The founding fathers did not think much of these corporations that had great wealth and great influence in government. And that is precisely why they put restrictions upon them after the government was organized under the Constitution…

After the nation’s founding, corporations were granted charters by the state as they are today. Unlike today, however, corporations were only permitted to exist 20 or 30 years and could only deal in one commodity, could not hold stock in other companies, and their property holdings were limited to what they needed to accomplish their business goals. And perhaps the most important facet of all this is that most states in the early days of the nation had laws on the books that made any political contribution by corporations a criminal offense. When you think about it, the regulations imposed on corporations in the early days of America were far harsher than they are now. That is hardly proof that the founding fathers supported corporations. In fact its quite the opposite…


Was Foster making this up out of whole cloth? Or was there truth in what he wrote?

Unequal Protection: The Early Role of Corporations in America

Jane Anne Morris is a corporate anthropologist and writer…

In researching nineteenth-century laws regulating corporations, Morris found that in Wisconsin, as in most other states at that time:

  • Corporations were required to have a clear purpose, to be fulfilled but not exceeded.2
  • Corporations’ licenses to do business were revocable by the state legislature if they exceeded or did not fulfill their chartered purpose(s).3
  • The state legislature could revoke a corporation’s charter if it misbehaved.4
  • The act of incorporation did not relieve corporate management or stockholders/owners of responsibility or liability for corporate acts.5
  • As a matter of course, corporation officers, directors, or agents couldn’t break the law and avoid punishment by claiming they were “just doing their job” when committing crimes but instead could be held criminally liable for violating the law.6
  • State (not federal) courts heard cases where corporations or their agents were accused of breaking the law or harming the public.7
  • Directors of the corporation were required to come from among stockholders.8
  • Corporations had to have their headquarters and meetings in the state where their principal place of business was located.9
  • Corporation charters were granted for a specific period of time, such as twenty or thirty years (instead of being granted “in perpetuity,” as is now the practice).10
  • Corporations were prohibited from owning stock in other corporations, to prevent them from extending their power inappropriately.11
  • Corporations’ real estate holdings were limited to what was necessary to carry out their specific purpose(s).12
  • Corporations were prohibited from making any political contributions, direct or indirect.13
  • Corporations were prohibited from making charitable or civic donations outside of their specific purposes.14
  • State legislatures could set the rates that some monopoly corporations could charge for their products or services.15
  • All corporation records and documents were open to the legislature or the state attorney general.16

Similar laws existed in most other states. It is important to understand that tens of thousands of entrepreneurs did business in the early colonies and continue to do so today without being incorporated—the proverbial butcher, baker, and candlestick maker. To do business in America or most of the world does not require a corporate structure—people can run partnerships, individual proprietorships, or simply manufacture and sell products or offer services without any business structure whatsoever other than keeping track of the money for the Internal Revenue Service….

It’s only when a group of people get together and put capital (cash) at risk and want to seek from the government legal limits on their liability, and to legally limit their possible losses, that a corporate form becomes necessary. In exchange for these limitations on liability, governments demand certain responsibilities from corporations.

The oldest historic one was that corporations “operate in the public interest” or “to the public benefit.” After all, if the people, through their elected representatives, are going to authorize a legal limitation of liability for a group of people engaged in the game of business, it’s quite reasonable to ask that the game be played in a way that throws off some benefit to the government’s citizens or at least doesn’t operate counter to the public welfare...


E. M. Smith aka ChiefIO is a trained economist. This is what he had to say back in 2011.

Evil Capitalism vs Evil Socialism

Realize that the corporate urge is not toward a competitive market. It’s the very LAST thing any corporate wants. What a corporate wants is a monopoly where they can achieve the profit maximizing price point. Not competition. No “market” with many sellers.

So watch what GE does, as an example. It is always on the hunt for a market it can “dominate”. It uses political leverage to get its products mandated and the competition banned. It doesn’t want a market, it wants a ‘company store’.

Internalize that, and a lot of things “fit” better…

Monsanto pushing legislation to ban private traditional seeds[saving] and seed sharing, and promoting GMO products. (Why would a seed company want to ‘destroy’ a seed market? So you must come to the company store…)

EPA is used to forbid all sorts of things that can be done easily and cheaply, and where the alternative is very expensive ….

Once corporations figure out that it is cheaper and easier to get the competition banned and them mandated, than to create new products; and that they can make lots of money as the sole provider of a crappy product but not that much making good products in a competitive market; well, lets just say that the campaign contributions flow…

Oddly, you can look at Communism as the “limit case” where there is ONE corporation and it IS the government. At the other extreme is “laissez faire” with huge numbers of competitors. As you move toward Communism you pass through stages of ever more “concentration” of control. Just shy of communism is Classical Socialism with it’s state planning boards and commissions. A bit more toward L.F. you get “Market Socialism” (with some sub-types in between).

The USA until about 1990 was a “Mixed Economy” with some “natural monopolies” under government “control” via “regulation”; and with many competitive markets. We’ve moved to more central planning and more central “regulation” (in some cases as a cover for the “planning” word that has gotten tied to Socialism… so is political to some extent). With the nationalization of GM and the bank “bailout” / “rescue” that was really more of a ‘take-under’ in some ways; we moved to a Lange Type Socialism.

The result of the last 50 years has been more companies in markets with Oligopolies that are essentially guaranteed by the government. Who dominates the Home Mortgage Market? Fanny & Freddy – Gov’t Corporations. Who dominates the Student Loan Market? Sally Mae – a Gov’t Corporation. Who dominates US Autos? GM – a Gov’t Corporation via Nationalization, but now being sold off. (Though Ford is doing well too.) And who “Calls the Tune” for the Banks in America? ALL of them? The Federal Reserve Bank – a Gov’t sponsored corporation. And there are a whole lot more of them. Try taking a train from coast to coast for example…

At the next tier down, we have Gov’t dependent Oligopolies. Say you wanted to make airplanes. First off, you need that dozen lawyers to work the FAA for you. Next up, you need some friends in the Military to feed you contracts. Don’t think so? When Boeing gets a $B contract to ‘study’ or ‘develop’ and you need to design your new tech from scratch on your own money: Who do you think will win? So the government basically decides how many companies it wants, and who they will be, then funds them “to plan” with contracts. (This is NOT a hypothetical… I’ve watched them flat out announce “We’d like Lockheed and Martin to merge” or “we don’t want…” usually when one of them is ‘having issues’ and the topic is raised. Then the gov’t casts the one vote that matters…)

And so it goes…

This is, dare I say it…. basically the same way the Fascist “Third Way” worked. (And it DOES work). FDR and Wilson both had high praise for The Third Way and you can see how they shifted America from a ‘free market’ toward “Third Way” government – corporation “cooperation” … It was this same process / tendency that Ike warned about in the “Military Industrial Complex” speech.

So we’ve moved away from straight up competition (and with good reasons… it is less profitable and more destructive in some ways and it is prone to monopoly practices) and toward that Classical Socialist end of things; with exact placement varying over time. And we called it a “Mixed Economy” at the ‘tepid’ end; as the name “fascist Third Way” got a bit tainted during W.W.II …. that tendency for Mussolini and Hitler to stir in a load of Nationalism and for the Nazi’s a double helping of Racism spoiled the soup for the Third Way “Socialist Lite” folks like FDR.

And the propaganda worked.

We’ve now got a “Progressive” and a “Third Way” government that IS a form of Socialism. (Now being rebranded as “Market Socialism” in the Eastern Block and Euro zones; called “Regulation” in the USA and sometimes poking it’s head up under “Rescue” as well with the most recent bits called “Social Justice”… all the pieces as slices of salami, but no overall Big Picture of it… we like to keep our socialism hidden in tiny bites with different names.) But just don’t ever point out that it’s basically the same “Third Way” process, using what’s properly called “Corporatism”, to achieve the Socialist agenda; that was first innovated by the Fascists… After all, it doesn’t fit the propaganda paradigm “Fascists bad, WORLD Socialists good” put out by Stalin…

And that is the root cause of your pondering. Corporations are very happy under a Socialist Third Way / Progressive / Market Socialism / Fascist / “Government regulated Coopertition” (whatever you name you like to apply to the same beast) system. They are not very happy with wide open competitive markets. See all of Europe for an example of “Managed Markets” (yet another name…) The French are masters of this technique, and the Germans not far behind. The Japanese innovated the Keiretsu as a way to limit competition to manageable chunks with government supervision.

Like I said, it DOES work. What galls me is just that we run around putting 20 different names on the same process and that just hides what’s really going on. All for political reasons. Very “un-tidy”… You’d think these folks had something to hide…

At any rate, I’d like our economy to move back more toward a “Mixed Economy” with less of it “regulated and rescued” and be a bit further from a Lange Type Socialism and more like the Socialism Lite we used to be. Somehow some folks think that means I want laissez faire (which is prone to other evil failures); even more folks think Corporations must be laissez faire machines and tools of the Evil Right Wing; when the reality is that they are much more useful to the Third Way Socialists of the world… and make much more stable profits under them.

Hope that helps you see why “corporations would want to destroy their own markets”… Just need to change it around a little and it makes a lot of sense:

“Why would corporations want to destroy the competitive nature of their own markets?”…


THE COST OF REGULATIONS, CORPORATIONS FAVORITE WEAPON

Federal regulations cost every U.S. resident $6,000 in 2019
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The Daily Chart: Applying the McGovern Lesson

“This is a good time to recall the lesson George McGovern learned when he started a boutique hotel after his political career ended, only to learn the bitter lessons of the heavy foot of government regulation. This led McGovern to express a heresy:

I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender…

[M]y business associates and I also lived with federal, state and local rules that were all passed with the objective of helping employees, protecting the environment, raising tax dollars for schools, protecting our customers from fire hazards, etc. While I never have doubted the worthiness of any of these goals,👉the concept that most often eludes legislators is: “Can we make consumers pay the higher prices for the increased operating costs that accompany public regulation and government reporting requirements with reams of red tape.” It is a simple concern that is nonetheless often ignored by legislators.👈


And to go with it.

2013 Federal Regulations Have Made You 75 Percent Poorer

U.S. GDP is just $16 trillion instead of $54 trillion

The growth of federal regulations over the past six decades has cut U.S. economic growth by an average of 2 percentage points per year, according to a new study in the Journal of Economic Growth. As a result, the average American household receives about $277,000 less annually than it would have gotten in the absence of six decades of accumulated regulations—a median household income of $330,000 instead of the $53,000 we get now.

The researchers, economists John Dawson of Appalachian State University and John Seater of North Carolina State, constructed an index of federal regulations by tracking the growth in the number of pages in the Code of Federal Regulations since 1949. The number of pages, they note, has increased six-fold from 19,335 in 1949 to 134,261 in 2005. (As of 2011, the number of pages had risen to 169,301.) They devise a pretty standard endogenous growth theory model and then insert their regulatory burden index to calculate how federal regulations have affected economic growth. (Sometimes deregulation extends rather than shortens the number of pages in the register; they adjust their figures to take this into account.)…


Federal regulations have lowered real GDP growth by 2% per year since 1949 and made America 72% poorer


People esp ‘economists’ forget small business. There are a LOT of one to ten person shops out there. They hire a person or two even if it is just casual labor for a day or two or a week.

April 29, 2013 What America’s $2 Trillion Underground Economy Says About Jobs

…. most of these new participants in the underground economy are ordinary hard-working Americans who are increasingly taking jobs that pay “under the table” either because nothing else is available or they need a second source of income to make ends meet.

America’s underground economy is nothing new, but since the Great Recession hit,[The Obummer years] experts estimate it has doubled in size, driven by unemployed or underemployed people desperate for income….


US gov Small Business Website: 2010 LINK

Small firms accounted for 65 percent (or 9.8 million) of the 15 million net new jobs created between 1993 and 2009…. An estimated 552,600 new employer firms opened for business in 2009, and 660,900 firms closed….

How important are small businesses to the U.S. economy?

Small firms:
•    Represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.
•    Employ half of all private sector employees.
•    Pay 44 percent of total U.S. private payroll.
•    Generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years.
•    Create more than half of the nonfarm private GDP.
•    Hire 43 percent of high tech workers ( scientists, engineers, computer programmers, and others).
•    Are 52 percent home-based and 2 percent franchises.
•    Made up 97.5 percent of all identified exporters and produced 31 percent of export value in FY 2008.
•    Produce 13 times more patents per employee than large patenting firms.

Small businesses losing out to red tape

….cities and states stifle new small businesses at every turn, burying them in mounds of paperwork; lengthy, expensive and arbitrary permitting processes; pointless educational requirements for occupations; or even just outright bans. Today, the Institute for Justice released a series of studies documenting government-imposed barriers to entrepreneurship in eight cities. In every city studied, overwhelming regulations destroyed or crippled would-be businesses at a time when they are most needed.

Time and again, these reports document how local bureaucrats believe they should dictate every aspect of a person’s small business. They want to choose who can go into which business, where, what the business should look like, and what signs will be put in the windows. And if that means that businesses fail, or never open, or can operate only illegally, or waste all their money trying to get permits so they have nothing left for actual operations, that’s just too bad. This attitude would be bad enough in prosperous times, but in a period of financial strain and high unemployment, it’s almost suicidally foolish…..

April 13, 2017 Red Tape Burdens on Small Businesses

It’s well-known the regulatory burden falls disproportionately on small business. American Action Forum (AAF) research has discovered they are shedding jobs and wages are falling because of the Affordable Care Act. In addition, as regulation increases, the number of small business establishments decreases, while the largest businesses grow more numerous. Based on AAF’s latest research, the paperwork and compliance burdens alone total more than 3.3 billion hours and $64.6 billion. Given that compliance affects small businesses more acutely, each new hour of paperwork means less productivity, fewer profits, and diminished competitiveness, relative to larger competitors….

Now if we can get the states, towns and cities to give small businesses relief from idiotic regulations some of those underground businesses can come back into the regular economy. [This is what POTUS Trump is trying to do to unleash the US Economy.]

The 2013 Federal Register contains over 80,000 pages of new rules. As the Dollarhites showed only a large corporation that hires a full time legal staff has any hope of steering clear of traps in those new rules and in the new laws with completely off topic amendments attached. The Dollarhites, whose kids raised pet rabbits and sold them, fell foul of a one liner in an unrelated bill that amended the Animal Welfare Act years after the original law was passed.

That one liner is why I sold off my petting farm animals.

USDA fines family up to four million dollars for selling bunny rabbits

…the Dollarhite family of Nixa, Mo., first started raising and selling bunnies as part of a lesson to teach their teenage son about responsibility and hard work, they had no idea they would eventually meet the heavy hand of the US Department of Agriculture (USDA). According to a recent article covered in Breitbart’s 

Big Government, the USDA recently ordered the Dollarhite family to pay more than $90,000 in fines because they sold more than $500 worth of rabbits in a year — and if they fail to pay the fine by Monday, May 23, the fine will multiply to nearly $4 million….


On top of that you need a compliance staff. I worked for a company with a small thirty man staff. After a new law was passed we had to add 3 more people, 10% of the employees, to do nothing except deal with the additional paperwork required. That cost YOU money.

Red Tape Rising: A 2011 Mid-Year Report

Abstract: 

Following a record year of rulemaking, the Obama Administration is continuing to unleash more costly red tape. In the first six months of the 2011 fiscal year, 15 major regulations were issued, with annual costs exceeding $5.8 billion and one-time implementation costs approaching $6.5 billion. No major rulemaking actions were taken to reduce regulatory burdens during this period. Overall, the Obama Administration imposed 75 new major regulations from January 2009 to mid-FY 2011, with annual costs of $38 billion. There were only six major deregulatory actions during that time, with reported savings of just $1.5 billion. This flood of red tape will undoubtedly persist, as hundreds of new regulations stemming from the vast Dodd–Frank financial regulation law, Obamacare, and the EPA’s global warming crusade advance through the regulatory pipeline—all of which further weakens an anemic economy and job creation, while undermining Americans’ fundamental freedoms. Action by Congress as well as the President to stem this regulatory surge is essential.

October 2011 Argument for what’s certain: regulations hurting economy

It’s clear the Barack Obama White House ranks as one of the most activist regulatory administrations in history. Consequently, it’s not surprising the administration argues that regulatory costs and uncertainty aren’t hurting the economy.

Jan Eberly, assistant treasury secretary on economic policy, recently tried to make the case for an-all-is-well position on regulation in a Treasury Department blog. The piece opened by quoting Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner in his recent Senate testimony: “I’m very sympathetic to the argument you want to be careful to get the rules better and smarter, but I don’t think there’s good evidence in support of the proposition that it’s regulatory burden or uncertainty that’s causing the economy to grow more slowly than any of us would like.”

Eberly goes on to make various points that supposedly undercut the argument regulation hurts business, the economy and jobs.

She cites a recovery in corporate profits. But that ignores where profits should or could be. In fact, corporate profits only climbed above their 2006 levels last year. For good measure, Eberly ignores that as of the second quarter of this year, proprietors’ income had still failed to climb back to its 2006 level. [Proprietors are small business owners.]

Eberly asserts that a flat workweek for private workers and low capacity utilization point to poor demand, not fear of regulation…

As a private citizen do YOU have the time to read 80,000 pages of new regs a year, not to mention court cases? (Courts can make laws. It is called case law.) These regulations make it almost impossible for people to start and grow a small business.

And that brings us back to the attack on AI. Regulations are the best way to pick winners and losers AND to manage the decline of the USA while making people nothing but wage slaves.