“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
I urge everybody to watch this, because THIS is who we are up against.
You will note that Millie Weaver was ARRESTED right before this came out.
LINK: https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/millie-weaver/
These are the people who tried to stop Trump, and they are STILL trying to stop Trump.
YouTube has flagged this documentary as “hate speech”, if you can believe THAT.
This [(Q+(2*7)=31]TH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
OK – this is weird, but it finally makes sense. This is very geeky, but I think all of you will get it at a high level. It’s the mechanics where it gets tricky.
Remember when Andrew Torba of Gab was talking about social media “on the blockchain” that would be invulnerable to censorship? Torba was really enamored of the idea, even though he never did it – probably for scale reasons.
Back then, I have to admit that I didn’t really understand the concept, but now I do.
The way I stumbled into this is subtle. It’s a story. Here’s the story.
There is a guy I follow on Twitter named “@desantis”. He’s a very interesting mind, like a lot of people I know, but he is in a corner by himself, of the people I happen to know.
Desantis is part of the “crypto geek community”. They’re a strange bunch. In some ways, they’re in love with money, which – for various reasons – I am suspicious of, but which I totally get the DOWNSIDE of.
But crypto geeks don’t love money like misers – they love it like an idea, so they’re actually very unique and pleasant and I like their tribe, even though I’m not really even an honorary member.
Within that tribe, Desantis is a great medicine man, or perhaps the great priest in Jerusalem. The crypto geeks all bow before Desantis, it sometimes seems, yet he’s a bit of a hermit.
Desantis “gets” things at a very high level – that is his game and drive. He does not want to tarry on the details, which can be very hard. Steve, Scott, and Cthulhu here are all people who understand that details are important, and how reality actually happens. Somebody has to sort that shit out. My father was like that, incidentally. I am a detail person, too, but I love it when I get “general”.
Desantis – who calls himself a “generalist” – is almost allergic to details, except when he prepares small examples on what are essentially proofs on the backs of napkins. Of the generalities he gets, many are what “specificists” consider trivial, worthless, or mere byproduct of their work. But some of the things Desantis notices are really quite profound, and some are beautiful. Many are almost hard to put into WORDS. That is just TOO COOL.
Desantis is almost addicted to a kind of glass bead game where you can’t talk about the game too specifically or you spoil it.
Of course, many consider such types of thinkers to be near-crackpots, and they can be very frustrating to understand. However, once I found Desantis on Twitter, I loved the beauty of some of the things he saw, and thus I endeavored to be more like him. He became one of my muses.
NOTE that Desantis was followed by Jack Dorsey. Sometimes they conversed in “Desantis-level-cool-speak”. Yes. I would not be surprised if some Desantis ideas were used, stolen, riffed on, or patented. At the very least, warning of the threat he posed was given to the Cabal.
Anyway, I stopped seeing Desantis ANYWHERE. I assumed that he blocked me for my conservative views about Trump, but when I went looking for his posts – BOOM – it turned out that I was not blocked – he was simply not there. He was GONE.
I dug further. It seemed that Desantis was UNFOLLOWED by Jack because of “Twetch” starting. AH! Maybe THAT is where Desantis went!
What is Twetch?
Twetch is a weird marriage of blockchain, crypto, and Twitter, that is “on the blockchain” to some extent, so that it can’t be shut down, in the same way that bitcoin cannot be shut down.
Now I’m not going to get into that whole world, but here is the deal. In order to follow Desantis again, I made an account on Twetch, and I could use a friend or two to help me explore it, by posting and (and I hate this part – Black Elk – forgive me) making enough digital money to follow and “tip” the people like Desantis that I went there to follow.
SO – if any of you feel experimental, then please – start here and click away. We can experiment with making followers for free, because I have no money on Twetch.
Muchas gracias!
My homepage:
Note both 2 and from. Lucky me!
That is what I was talking about, and why I took this journey.
NEXT….
This was posted here. It is a critical read.
Imagine this intelligence coming into a LOYAL CIA, not in sympathy (if not league) with the ChiNazi coronavirus “globalism-forcing” strategy.
I then re-posted it to Twitter (with permission):
Interestingly, this was shortly after I posted the following on a different thread:
Text version:
wolfmoon1776
July 29, 2020 at 11:56
OTC HCQ is a big deal. I would welcome it, despite the fact that RIGHT NOW, for COVID-19 I think it is best taken under a doctor’s prescription and supervision.So WHY do I want it OTC?
So that supply lines are SOLID and we have enough to treat the whole nation overnight.
Why do we need that much HCQ?
COVID-20 and COVID-21.
WHUUUUT?
CHICOM-DEMOCRAT 4GW BIOWARFARE.
If CCP-DNC releases a NEW coronavirus, we need a general cure to disarm it IMMEDIATELY, without tanking the economy, and HCQ is beyond likely – meaning almost certain – to fulfill that mission.
America needs a PRE-CURE for coronaviruses. HCQ is that drug.
OTC HCQ is a NATIONAL SECURITY OBJECTIVE.
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I repeat for the benefit of all:
This is pretty much a NO BRAINER.
Allow me to explain the logic.
If you are following the vaccine development efforts – many of them – very expensive – using YOUR tax dollars – then even if you LIKE vaccines, you understand perfectly well that vaccine development is SLOW and PAINFUL.
MANY of these vaccines are using VERY SMART “re-usable” “platforms” – meaning that they can be used for lots of different vaccines, without a lot of “foundational” development. This is, in fact, why many of the vaccines started up SO QUICKLY – the developers simply swapped in something NEW – like new DNA, mRNA, or a recombinant protein, instead of “SARS” or “Ebola” or even “flu”.
SO – understand – even with all this massive effort and expense, using “fast” vaccine technology, we are STILL looking at about a year to develop a RISKY vaccine – risky because these vaccines will all be risky for many patients, especially those who HAD the disease, or those who WILL GET IT anyway. Those patients were NOT trialed. The vaccines will NOT be safe for them.
One year? One year, MINIMUM? One year, minimum, if YET ANOTHER disease “gets out” in that weird country where all diseases seem to mysteriously come from, namely CHINA?
Turns out that many of these diseases just happen to be coronaviruses, which just happen to be of huge interest to science right now, with lots of chimeric proteins being made – meaning ARTIFICIAL virus pieces (OH, but they would never put those pieces published in the journals together! NO, NEVER!)
Y’all starting to understand? What I am saying is NOT misinformation. It is simple, horrifying TRUTH.
Scientists in America, China, and everywhere else experiment with Frankenstein versions of these viruses – very specifically, the “arms and legs and body and internal organs” of these viruses. These Frankenstein monster viruses are actually quite simple, because the “organs” inside them are merely the blueprints for the arms, legs, and body. AND – remember this – those very same “blueprints” are USED to generate the arms, legs and body, that are used in these tests.
If you suddenly say “well that’s the whole damn thing”, then yes. Read on.
In other words, vaccine researchers have a “plausible reason” to create both the Frankenstein arms and legs of chimeric viruses, and because they have THAT plausible reason – AND DO USE IT – they also have a plausible reason to create the genetic instructions for the Frankenstein arms and legs and body – AND THEY USE THAT, TOO.
SO – let’s add things up. The scientists have reason to, and in fact do, create ALL THE PIECES needed to construct chimeric (meaning Frankenstein) viruses. The only thing which prevents them from doing it is……….. well, they may have SAID they would not do it.
Y’all starting to get how dangerous this is? And NOW – let me nuke anybody who argues with it.
Even if, for any reason, you said BUT BUT BUT, then I can simply say “China not only CAN get all the different, non-cross-immunity-granting, “novel” coronaviruses that it wants, by taking them from bats…….. THEY ALREADY DID IT.
So – get this – China is sitting on dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands of “novel coronaviruses”, many or most of which don’t grant complete or even significant immunity to the others. And that’s just talking about the ones China let us know about. They could have some bat coronas that are SCARY dangerous that they never told us about.
So – that is the situation.
National security involves RISK MANAGEMENT.
We have a drug, that seems to work, very generally, against coronaviruses. That drug has a strong safety record. It’s called hydroxychloroquine, or HCQ.
If it even POSSIBLY works on another bat coronavirus, avian coronavirus, or synthetic coronavirus, and does so in a timeframe faster than a vaccine can be developed, then HCQ availability becomes a dead simple and unarguable national security objective.
There is only one nation that would NOT want us to prepare for that possibility. That nation is CHINA. The only people who are NOT China who would want us to not prepare for that possibility are ON CHINA’S SIDE.
What this does is makes HCQ a kind of WHEAT/CHAFF SORTER.
Yes. Enemies of the people. Or their “controlled opposition”.
It’s VERY simple to use this wheat/chaff sorter. VERY EASY.
USE IT. And USE IT NOW.
I was going to discuss this, but then realized I didn’t have time to put this HUGE subject together.
But then I realized I actually had a PLACEHOLDER.
SO let’s entertain the Stalinist Holderites with the thought of WHAT’S COMING.
John Solomon has a GREAT new book out – FALLOUT – which tracks SPYGATE back to URANIUM ONE.
To get a taste of what was found by John Solomon and Seamus Bruner, there is a GREAT interview of Solomon and Bruner by the Epoch Times.
Here is the video – absolutely worth a watch!
The first 18:10 of the video cover the fact that “Spygate” actually goes back to the BEGINNINGS of the Obama administration, and center around URANIUM ONE. The mind-boggling “negligence” of the Obama administration is on full display.
Now – there are a LOT of things I can say about this interview – with which I am in 90+% agreement. In particular, I could “go big” on how the authors are either intentionally or subconsciously holding back from the full accusation of REVERSO – that Obama and Hillary weren’t just being LIARS, accusing Trump of “collusion” with Russia. I could say that Obama and Hillary were actually IN LEAGUE with Russia, giving Russia both uranium AND Crimea for a VERY nice price. I could fit the CLINTONS directly into the long chain of events leading from the uranium-spying Rosenbergs and the polonium spy George Koval, to THIS VERY MOMENT, as part of Stalin’s plan to slowly denuclearize the United States.
I am going to go smaller.
Staring at 18:10 until 24:32, a very important sub-story comes up, and HOW one interprets it is very important.
The story goes into ANNA CHAPMAN…..
I’m quite the fan of Maria Butina, Putin’s and Hillary’s useful cowgirl gun lover, who was given the “James Wolfe” kid glove treatment by Jussie K. Lie and Robert M. K. Mueller, and then kicked out of America with a velvet boot, as fast as they could hide her from scrutiny. But that’s not Anna Chapman.
THIS is Anna Chapman!
More details, including her relationships to both Skripal and Snowden.
LINK: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5733373/russian-spy-anna-chapman-thai-holiday-sergei-skripal/
One of the KEY points is that the Anna Chapman spy ring was [allegedly] rolled up because a spy (not Chapman) was getting close to Hillary Clinton, trying to get a job in the State Department, after getting in close with a “friend of Hillary”.
Note that this is EXACTLY what should have happened with TRUMP, if Carter Page was actually a problem. But it DID NOT happen.
Funny, that.
Solomon goes on to explain that this was all explained to him. He was told by Daniel Hoffman, the CIA station chief in Moscow at the time of Anna Chapman and Uranium One, that Russia was just playing games of tainting both sides and ginning up mutual suspicions and turmoil.
That all sounds so nice and good. But yet they all understood this wonderful truth in Hillary’s case, but not in Trump’s case.
Funny, that.
And yet we see that Curtains Comey publicly goes along with this line of thinking, but PRIVATELY keeps the illegal, unjustified, and PHONY special counsel alive, pretending not to KNOW that it should have been CLOSED.
Funny, that.
In my opinion, what Hoffman told Solomon is the GASLIGHTING OF REVERSO.
Whether Hoffman was hiding Russian assistance to Hillary for investigative reasons (meaning, he was following the reverso), or to HELP her (as part of the reverso), is not clear.
The point being – my point – Anna Chapman was USED intentionally to “clean up” Hillary.
In my opinion, these DEMOCRATS and their MEDIA, in COLLUSION with the Russian “taint both sides” PUBLIC strategy, are able to help Russia PRIVATELY and DIFFERENTIALLY support the treasonous Democrats by what appears to be a neutral strategy ON THEIR END.
It’s VERY smart.
In the case of HILLARY, rolling up the spy ring was used to GIVE HILLARY COVER as a patriot – which of course is NOT TRUE. She goes on to give Russia all the American uranium it wants.
In the case of Trump, investigating a phony spy ring was used not to COVER Trump, but to cast suspicion on him. The strategy was made “safe for Russia” by using Western assets. If it fell through, as it did, Russia gets off clean, and Democrats take the hit at a lower level – CORRUPTION, NOT TREASON.
See how that works? Like I say – SMART.
Listen to the video AFTER 24:10. The interviewer, Jan Jekielek, gently tries to get the authors to lean forward on what I might call DISINFORMATION DIFFERENTIAL as a Russian “active measure” to support the treasonous Democrats, but NO BITEY.
Now I don’t know why Solomon can’t or won’t say this. Maybe America is not ready. Maybe he would be “getting out in front of his skis” with that accusation.
Funny – I was once taught to LEAN FORWARD HARD on skis, to keep control at high speed on the really steep stuff.
Hillary and Russia. There’s more to the story. Let’s FIND IT.
This [(Q+7)=24]TH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Start HERE.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
I started off above with THIS NEWS…..
For many of you, I can safely predict that this does NOT feel like “good news” to you. For others, it does feel like good news, but perhaps YOU are dreading being positive about vaccines in a movement which is largely skeptical of them.
MY MISSION is to make you ALL welcome this news, because you will FEAR NO TRUTHS.
To do this, I’m going to take you on a LONG JOURNEY to answer one question – Is Wolf going to take THIS VACCINE if it makes it to production?
Are you ready to go? Here is your first BRAVERY KICK. Repeat after me…..
Are you ready to go? GOOD!
The first thing I noticed is that Seb Gorka – Q DENIER – is using the same GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINE IMAGE that measly Q blogger Wolf Moon uses all the time.
I downloaded this sucker back in APRIL, and used the original web URL in a lot of comments.
JUST SAYIN’. Gorka ain’t GOD. He’s just a small human in MAGA, just like the rest of us. He has to scrape images just like the rest of us.
Feel that FEAR slipping away?
GOOD.
Now – remember – POTUS is ALL-IN on developing a vaccine – and QUICKLY.
JUST SAYIN’.
Don’t fear it. UNDERSTAND IT.
By the time we are done here, you will be able to OPINE SMARTLY about what POTUS is doing here, no matter what your personal view of vaccines – either for yourself or for others.
Let’s look more deeply at Seb Gorka’s article:
The United States government has secured a $2 billion deal for 100 million doses of a promising experimental Coronavirus vaccine being developed by the U.S.-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.
The two companies, which are producing the vaccine together, said that the doses will be provided to America if they prove “safe and effective in humans.” The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that as a result of the government’s purchase, the vaccines would come at “no cost” to Americans seeking the vaccine once it’s available.
This is the latest vaccine candidate to be secured for the United States as a result of President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed,” aimed at expediting the possible cure and eventual eradication of the Chinese virus. Other companies developing possible vaccines that have been enlisted by the government include Novavax, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Emergent Biosolutions.
Sebastian Gorka, https://www.sebgorka.com/breaking-news-u-s-secures-100-million-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-from-pfizer/
Here are the KEY POINTS you want to remember as we DIG DEEPER…..
You will note that there is a LINK – and basically what we have here is RE-REPORTING of CNBC.
So let’s GO THERE! Here is CNBC:
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 22 2020
7:16 AM EDT
UPDATED 24 MIN AGO
Will Feuer @WILLFOIA
According to the author, there are 3 key points:
Now – here are MY additional key points:
The explanation of “Operation Warp Speed” is useful, so you don’t have to be AFRAID of talking about it and being mocked by Democrats, should you use the somewhat corny name. It’s like many of Trump’s simple but extremely sound ideas. The names are almost like gatekeepers that turn away mockers, reflexive haters, and other people of “bad faith”, but those of good faith are invited in to get in early on the winning team.
Yeah, I smell PENCE all over that. A genius hire, to do exactly this strategy.
Here is Azar talking:
“This is what’s really unprecedented with President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. We are literally making the commercial scale vaccine now as we’re going through the clinical trial,” Azar told CNBC. “We’re doing that at risk, using the full power of the U.S. government and our financial resources to do that. No one’s ever done this before.”
Vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and others have been ramping up manufacturing capacity before their vaccine’s have been proven to be safe and effective and before receiving regulatory approval. That will help shave months off the time it takes to ultimately distribute a vaccine across the globe.
“We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, said in a statement. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.”
Developing a safe and effective vaccine is seen as crucial to curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 14.9 million people around the world and killed at least 617,200 people, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
While the companies and government race to deliver a successful vaccine, regulators and company officials have assured the public and members of Congress that they will not sacrifice on safety. All that’s at risk, they say, is money.
A very interesting concept – risk the money on any failed vaccines as far as premature commercialization, but END the “threat” sooner and win big on rebounding the ECONOMY.
THAT RIGHT THERE sounds like classic Trumpian “manage the downside to win” thinking.
NOW – let’s dig DEEPER STILL.
Why is Trump throwing the BIGGEST CHUNK OF CASH YET at this particular vaccine?
In my opinion, it is because this vaccine is showing itself to be SAFE AND EFFECTIVE already, despite being one of the “newer” technologies.
To see this, we need to go to a couple of LINKS in the last article.
First, some prior recent reporting by CNBC – clearly enough time (3 weeks) for the $2B to show up.
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 1 2020
9:05 AM EDT
UPDATED WED, JUL 1 2020
3:52 PM EDT
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
@BERKELEYJR
Here are the key points, per CNBC:
Here are my added key points:
Next, we follow two PRESS RELEASES from Pfizer and BioNTech:
LINK 2: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200722005438/en/
Here is the MONEY QUOTE on RESULTS:
The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines, each of which represents a unique combination of messenger RNA (mRNA) format and target antigen. On July 1st, Pfizer and BioNTech announced preliminary data from BNT162b1, the most advanced of the four mRNA formulations. The early data demonstrates that BNT162b1 is able to produce neutralizing antibodies in humans at or above the levels observed in the plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, and this was shown at relatively low dose levels. Local reactions and systemic events were dose-dependent, generally mild to moderate, and transient. No serious adverse events were reported. On July 20th, the companies announced early positive update from German Phase 1/2 COVID-19 vaccine study, including first T Cell response data.
SO – we have an mRNA vaccine which appears to be – compared to other vaccines we’ve been hearing about – relatively safe and effective. NO SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS.
But YES – this vaccine is the NEW and somewhat unproven DNA/RNA vaccine tech.
So how do we JUDGE IT?
In my opinion, we first need to take a look at ALL the leading COVID-19 vaccines.
The horrible China-Puppet WHO does have one redeeming feature – BUREAUCRATS KEEPING TRACK OF THINGS.
This URL is always a good place to go, to see where vaccines stand. Yeah, China and Bill Gates probably get to track the downloads, and maybe even infect the PDF file, but whatever.
That’s what I’m here for – to turn that nasty PDF into nice, safe, images.
LINK: https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
Let’s look at the FIRST TWO PAGES of the document they produce, keeping track of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.
What can we GLEAN from this stuff?
We can’t FULLY understand this yet, but we WILL in a few minutes. For now, we can mostly understand the THIRD COLUMN – who is behind which particular vaccine.
The vaccines are ORDERED in terms of how advanced the RESEARCH is – in particular, how far along the CLINICAL TRIALS are. The TOP TWO DOZEN entries (#1 to #24) are all the vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS. #1 is the most advanced – which right now means PHASE 3 trials. The least advanced (#24) will only be in initial PHASE 1 trials.
So GUESS WHO IS AT THE TOP? (Look in the 3rd column for the developer…)
Yeah, boy howdy, that sure is a surprise! The top three entries are all CHINA!
Then, number FOUR is the Astra-Zeneca / Oxford vaccine.
Then, numbers FIVE and SIX are CHYYYNNAA again!!! Think of that – the top 6 vaccines in terms of advancement, and CHYYYNNAA has FIVE of them. I guess that’s what happens when YOU RELEASE THE VIRUS.
The next two are Western – Moderna and Inovio. Both of these have gotten a lot of press, not all of it good.
Moderna (#7) made the news b/c it came out with glowing statements about trials, but the fine print uncovered in the next few days was lots of serious side effects. What followed was a journalist pile-on, with lots of talk that Moderna has no experience, is stiff-arming the feds on safety, and is hyping more than fixing stuff. Very “Obama”.
Inovio (#8) is a DNA vaccine, similar to the mRNA vaccines. Look in the FIRST COLUMN under “Platform” to see the type. You don’t have to understand the platform quite yet. The Inovio vaccine was one of the first COVID-19 vaccines to get a lot of public attention, and is backed by Bill Gates and CEPI, as are MANY of the others. Gates is behind most of the horses in the race, so that he CANNOT LOSE.
Ask WHY.
Numbers 9, 10 and 11 are also DNA vaccines, with #9 being a Japanese effort.
Then come two more standard vaccines, Indian (#12) and Chinese (#13), leading off on the SECOND image / second page above.
Finally, at #14, we get to Novavax, which is the vaccine I like for myself, provided that it’s ever proven safe and effective (and useful) in people who’ve already had the disease. WHY I like it for ME, however, requires some explanation, but not yet – let’s keep looking at the list.
Skip over #15, the Turtlehead vaccine (made you curious, didn’t I?), which is also a vaccine that I am PERSONALLY potentially favorable toward. Seriously, it’s just a KY company (Kentucky Bioprocessing), and KY is in USA. But it is also a technology I favor as likely to be SAFE.
FINALLY, at #16, we get to the Pfizer vaccine. This is the one in question. Am I going to take it?
Not going to answer that yet!
Of the remaining entries, I’m liking FOR MYSELF numbers 18, 19, and 20, which include the GSK effort (#18) and the University of Queensland vaccine (#20), both in the news occasionally.
Of the last 4 entries, 21-24, thereby rounding out the TWO DOZEN vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS, #21 is the Imperial College vaccine often in the news, and #23 is the CHINESE ARMY (PLA) entry – an mRNA vaccine, which IMO is likely to be STOLEN TECH.
So – HOW DO WE JUDGE?
WELL – before we can really judge, it helps if we understand certain basics of vaccines.
Let me provide you with something VERY AWESOME that I found online.
Vaccines, like everything else in Creation, are EVOLVING INTELLIGENTLY.
We just have to make sure that they’re EVOLVING HONESTLY.
That’s where it gets tricky. But first, we have to understand the basics of how vaccines WORK – hopefully WITH the immune system, INTELLIGENTLY AND HONESTLY.
Vaccines as we now know them are designed to trigger the immune system into THINKING we have a disease, when we don’t really have it, so that when we would otherwise get the disease, we are already prepared for it, and fight it off. This is a very smart idea which has TRACKED human civilization.
Smallpox is the disease which taught us about vaccination. Before the term “vaccination” was generalized to its current state of “inducing immunity to a disease by prior and safer activation the immune system”, “vaccination” meant inoculation (intentional INFECTION) with cowpox or a relative, as a DEFENSE against smallpox. Vaccination was EXCLUSIVELY a smallpox therapy. Very interestingly, the OLDER, more dangerous practice of infection with heat-and-time-weakened smallpox virus was KNOWN by empirical observation, and dated back to at least the Middle Ages in China. That practice was called “variolation”.
Thus, cowpox cross-immunity to protect against smallpox was a LUCKY BREAK. Most diseases don’t HAVE a nearly harmless cowpox version of “whatever” to protect you from real “whatever”.
Thus, what “vaccines” are doing NOW is much more akin to the OLDER and MORE DANGEROUS practice of variolation – a form of inoculation – intentional infection with the very “something” you are afraid of – preferably something which has been tinkered with in some way so that it no longer kills you.
Inoculation is POWERFUL because it’s more generalizable, but it’s RISKY because it makes US responsible for SAFETY.
You know – if we were more honest, we’d call vaccines something else, like “variolines”, or maybe “inoculums”, or – OH YEAH – inoculations.
I know this is actually very simple, but I want to CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE on “vaccines”.
I want you to be not just INFORMED, which can be DISINFORMED, but to have real and deep UNDERSTANDING, which CANNOT be disinformed as easily.
Read the last three sentences of the above Wikipedia entry for “Variolation” to understand “what cannot be said in science” right now.
The method is no longer used today. It was replaced by smallpox vaccine, a safer alternative. This in turn led to the development of the many vaccines now available against other diseases.
See the trick? It’s a kind of “circle of changed meanings”, so beloved by lying Democrats. The potentially dangerous and generally iffy WOLF/SHEEPDOG of “inoculation” borrowed the sheepskin of the “safer alternative” vaccination to claim false but reassuring safety for what is really the tricky business that could be called “generalized variolation”.
We got LUCKY on smallpox, and now pretend that the same luck-magic can be extended to all diseases. HA! GET REAL, SCIENCE.
The reality is that the term “vaccines” is historical euphemism.
Read the history of smallpox to GROUND YOURSELF in REALITY.
SEE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox
AND: https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html
Well, vaccines are now a much BROADER science. They are, basically, “tinkering with the immune system to do stuff” – and that includes STERILIZING PEOPLE by induction of auto-immune attack on their reproductive platform. One person’s nasty side effect is another person’s depopulationist panacea.
Have you ever considered WHY we’re not supposed to think about vaccine side-effects? It’s because “SIDE” depends upon your perspective.
Yes, THAT is how big vaccines are, now. We can actually immunize people against PARENTHOOD.
SO – if you don’t understand vaccines, you are at the mercy of those who do. Be GLAD that the Hitler regime didn’t have sterilization vaccines.
Be CONCERNED that the CHINAZIS have them RIGHT NOW. They could sterilize ALL of the Uighurs and just move the HAN SUPREMACISTS right in.
Why, with all the Uighur men gone, they could be sterilizing all the women – or all the men – right now – with just a SHOT OR TWO. Wait a minute. Somebody reported “medical experimentation” in those Uighur reeducation camps. Hmmmmmmm.
But let’s leave THAT for another time. My point is this – vaccines are a very BROAD topic. For now, let’s stick to “current ways to potentially fight coronaviruses by prior immunization”.
In that regard, I recently found a wonderful blog post which explains the different TYPES of vaccines being considered for COVID-19. This is an excellent article.
LINK: https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-19-vaccine
Jeffrey Smoot
Information Scientist, CAS
Posted June 11, 2020
I could not have put together such a GREAT and SHORT summary of the different vaccine techs if I had spent years doing it.
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE! It’s actually a VERY fast read!
Now let’s look at the critical TABLE 1, which I’m quoting “vertically” and editorializing somewhat, based on a “monster” metaphor.
The table entries are unmolested. The entry titles reflect – somewhat humorously – my relative levels of trust/distrust of the technologies involved, and their state of readiness for “prime time” – expressed as effectiveness against “theoretical” pathogens.
Type — What basic kind of vaccine
Active Component — may be abbreviation or acronym – GOOGLE IT!!!
Advantage — why you might trust this platform
Disadvantage — why you might NOT trust this platform
Vaccine Example — actual uses in existing vaccines you may or may not like
Type — Live, attenuated
Active Component — Pathogen capable of replication
Advantage — Strong and long-lasting immune response, usually lifetime protection
Disadvantage — Risk of disease
Vaccine Example — Tuberculosis, MMR, smallpox, chickenpox, yellow fever
Type — Inactivated (or killed)
Active Component — Pathogen chemical or heat treated to prevent replication
Advantage — No risk of disease
Disadvantage — Lesser immune response; booster shots may be needed
Vaccine Example — Flu, hepatitis A, polio, rabies
Type — Subunit (protein, polysaccharide, conjugate, toxoid)
Active Component — Portions of a pathogen
Advantage — No risk of disease
Disadvantage — Booster shot often needed
Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, HPV, whooping cough, shingles, meningococcal disease, pneumococcal disease, diphtheria, tetanus
Type — VLP
Active Component — Outer coat of virus
Advantage — No risk of disease
Disadvantage — [none mentioned – surely there are some – W]
Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, cervical cancer, malaria
Type — Recombinant vector vaccine
Active Component — Non-pathogenic virus or bacteria as carrier of immunogen of interest
Advantage — Reusable for diverse antigens; no risk of disease
Disadvantage — Pre-existing or development of immunity to vector
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
Type — DNA vaccine
Active Component — Plasmid or other expression vector
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Lack of data
Vaccine Example — Veterinary medicine (canine melanoma, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus of fish, equine West Nile virus)
Type — mRNA vaccine
Active Component — RNA that encodes a disease-specific pathogen protein
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Effectiveness and side effects are unknown
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
This is a great chart because it orders things from “oldest” to newest in terms of general technology.
First live virus (weakened smallpox, cowpox, vaccinia), then dead virus, then specific fragments, then fake Frankenstein live virus, and finally the new fake “like a virus” DNA and RNA mucking around science.
READ THE LINK – each type is explained.
Let me review the different PLATFORMS (column 1) in the pages of the WHO document. These correspond to most of the types in the linked blog post.
These methods can basically be broken into two different sets of two categories each:
Old-school methods are “old biology” – no recombinants, no gene sequencing, no plasmids, no fancy tricks.
New-school methods use our advanced knowledge of biochemistry to MAKE STUFF at the molecular and biochemical level, either before injection or after injection.
Immunogen methods inject the stuff that triggers the immune reaction.
Instruction methods inject DNA or RNA – pretty much like a VIRUS does – maybe even USING a virus, or an artificial virus-like construct – to get those instructions into your cells.
So now let me apply those labels to the platforms, including one that’s missing (live /attenuated).
You see? There’s actually a lot of choice.
So – what should you trust?
THAT is for you to decide. I can only tell you what *I* trust. And WHY.
I am generally – PERSONALLY – favorable toward vaccines, despite being 100% opposed to mandatory vaccinations. Vaccines ave always been good for me. Even the occasional minor aggravation of very mild arthritis in my injection shoulder is not really enough of a negative for me to skip the flu shot.
Nevertheless, I am careful to note that vaccines give me just as many and just as strong minor, negative side effects as any drug – and MOST drugs have minor side-effects that I can observe and report.
The new shingles vaccine, in my case, had stronger side effects than almost ANY drug I had ever taken. Nevertheless, a BARGAIN next to the HORROR OF SHINGLES.
So I’m no fool – vaccines are REAL medicine – with real side effects. AND – if you’ve gotten the new shingles vaccine, then you know that vaccines are getting STRONGER so they can work STRONGER and LONGER.
The entire CHINA VIRUS psy-op and election interference program has done nothing to make me any less suspicious of vaccines. Indeed, it has made me MORE suspicious, if not an actual skeptic. Too many agendas. Too many lies. Too many “whoops”. Too many cute abuses of science. Too many media hit jobs. Too much Bill Gates near any and all of the above.
And CHYYYNNAA through and through the whole nasty affair. China, the home of CCP ChiNazis who love to BLAME THE VICTIM.
And which CHINAZIS could easily be STERILIZING UIGHURS with STOLEN GSK vaccine technology RIGHT NOW.
Suspicious? HELL YES!
On the bright side, I would not have been made aware of mankind’s current capabilities for eugenocide, had I not been “awakened” on vaccines, so I consider my new suspicions a stroke of good luck for any and all groups which HAVE BEEN, ARE BEING, or WILL EVER BE slated for GENOCIDE.
Uighurs! WATCH YOUR SIX!!!
One of the reasons Epstein was schmoozing all the big brains in science was – I am convinced – keeping track of the infinite bad possibilities that led to “Never Again”. SO *** DING DING DING *** I sure hope THAT particular baby didn’t get thrown out with the dirty pedophile’s bathwater. How the “this time we won’t fail” time-bomb of sterilization vaccines could have proceeded to where it is without being disarmed tells me somebody was fooling somebody. TSK-TSK. Shame on EVERYBODY.
ANYWAY – back to topic.
I think you could call me a VACCINE CONSERVATIVE.
I am not necessarily averse to any class of vaccine as I categorize them, or as others categorize them. I could take a new-school vaccine. I could take an old-school vaccine. I might take ANY of them, including the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, provided the following:
The LAST requirement is the one which, right now, makes several of the “new-school” technologies very likely NO-GO ZONES for THE WOLF. Much SHADE is thus cast on DNA, RNA, and viral vector types.
And as for the Pfizer vaccine (mRNA), I am much likelier to pick a DIFFERENT vaccine, particularly a NEW-SCHOOL recombinant protein subunit, neo-classical vaccine – much like the shingles vaccine I just took. Novavax is one of those vaccines. If it can be proven NOT to produce immune enhancement, AND it can be proven to be safe for symptomatic COVID-19 recoverees with lung damage, then I’m very likely to take it.
DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines, and adenovirus vectors are ALL too new and unproven for me to trust. Some of these – maybe all of them – are relying on retreaded edge tech from earlier gene therapy failures.
These platforms MIGHT NOT cause cancer 50 years down the road, or cause sterility, or cause disease in CHILDREN of recipients. But the fact is simple – WE DON’T KNOW YET.
Remember DES?
Now – if I was 70 years old, I would probably take the very first safe and effective DNA or mRNA vaccine to come to market, not expecting to live to 120, or to have any more kids. But that’s not the case. I’d love a few more decades. If I had a choice – AND I DO HAVE ONE – I’d prefer a more time-trusted technology like protein subunits. Most of all, I would trust a vaccine that got green-lighted by Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor University, an expert on immune enhancement in coronaviruses.
Adenovirus vectors? They already have “issues” of several kinds, including recipients either having or developing immunity to the platform itself. Perhaps not insurmountable, but there are other problems. For instance, we know that viruses have LIFELONG SIDE-EFFECTS. We’ve had decades to discover most of the important natural ones. AND – very disturbingly – we have a government health bureaucracy prominently led for years by a guy (Fauci) who not only forgot about HCQ and chloroquine – very economically conveniently for his vaccine and new therapeutic interests – he figured that the best way to deal with the inconvenient class of “slow, obscure, cancer-causing viruses” was to KICK THE PRIMARY RESEARCHER OF THEM OUT OF NIH.
Sorry – I would like to try these fascinating but risky modern vaccine platforms AFTER they have been checked and re-checked by a POST-FAUCI NIH/CDC/ETC.
And that doesn’t even begin to address this very important question. WHO IS MONITORING VACCINES to make sure that nobody is sneaking in sterility vaccine components? Components that were likely ALREADY TESTED IN AFRICA?
Is the Catholic Church even AWARE of the danger? WHERE is Pope Epstein-Guevara on this one? WITH the depopulationists? Happy to see humanity sterilized by the United Nations, as long as the “grave danger” of climate change is badly addressed?
Sorry. I’m not ready for any “mandatory” vaccine. Just on principle.
SO – you have a lot of choices in future COVID-19 vaccines, ranging from “none” to “any”.
I’m not going to tell you what to think or do.
But I hope that by addressing this issue for myself, I’ve given you some things to think about – so that your chosen position on vaccines will not merely be INFORMED, but FILLED WITH UNDERSTANDING.
And with that, I bid you GOOD HEALTH!
We begin with a reminder of my dear sister Fox Moon, who managed to get herself into a previous weird post which dealt with the an absolutely beautiful and eminently believable TROLL of the Green New Deal.
Yes, indeed – “we don’t have to eat them now“. More on that later in this post, believe it or not.
ANYWAY – someday you’ll hear the full story of dear Sis, but not today.
These railroad tracks you see in this picture meander close to a certain community wherein you can find Fox, as well as additional canine relatives of Wolf, namely Coyote Moon and Dog Moon. Obviously we’re all related, but if you had to guess which one of us is the most domesticated, just going by the metaphor, you would probably pick wrong.
Coyote and Dog have a love-hate thing, and – well – the family just puts up with the nonsense. Kinda cute, but it gets old. ENTYWHO, it is through Dog, bless her nutty heart, that I became aware of my most excellent source, who I have nicknamed POL Garbageman, in the same style as ENT Lawyer (“ENTY“) of “CDAN” fame.
Let’s go backwards on that to explain who in the hell POL Garbageman – affectionately known as POLY (i.e., like “ENTY“) – might be.
CDAN stands for “Crazy Days and Nights“, one of THE BEST Hollywood gossip blogs. It is allegedly put out by an “entertainment lawyer” – hence ENT Lawyer – hence ENTY.
You may have heard of ENTY from NEON REVOLT, who is also a “Hollywood” persona, and who has popularized ENTY in ANON circles. This right here is useful reading.
The equivalent of Q drops in CDAN world is a thing called “blind items“, wherein ENTY posts a scandalous story with just enough information that “those in the know” can figure out who he’s talking about. After it eventually becomes obvious to EVERYBODY who was being talked about, typically through developing legal troubles, ENTY will then confirm the actual identities with a “reveal”.
You can click on the picture or the link for a closer look.
Are you with me?
OK.
Now, what ENTY is to high-powered entertainment and political scandals, POLY is to bush league, grass-roots, who-in-the-hell-are-these-people political scandals in ONE SMALL FLYOVER COMMUNITY that happens to be – unfortunately for all involved – right in the center of a MASSIVE firefight between Republicans and Democrats in a swing state.
So when you see WOLF’S ears perk up about stuff in that place – well – it means that WOLF is about to have a STORY and POLY has most likely been ON THE JOB.
Ah, yes. As you can see by the above image, my dear sister has a real sense of humor about this dysfunctional relationship, but what the hell – in this paleface world of encroaching civilization, Fox steals cat food [read: gets juicy leads from “moonstruck” suits] and Wolf does a little “dumpster diving”. Coyote yips and Dog howls. All is well in Moon Meadows. Pocahontas wishes she had a fraction of the action found on the Moon Tribe Reservation, where Suspicious Cat always has a home with his canine friends.
Anyway, POL Garbageman’s blind items are sometimes discernible to those who are familiar with politics in “a certain swing state”. Now – one has to be careful – a lot of the CRAP that “Amazing POLY” (the Bulllova of watchmen) digs up isn’t what you think it is at first. Too-clear half-and-half in a funny deflated balloon may be – ERRRRR – something else. Likewise, something else may actually be spittle and cream in an old birthday balloon from Chuck-E-Cheese. It takes a PROFESSIONAL to sort this stuff out.
That’s where I come in.
Now – thanks to the amazing POLY, I’m in possession of two blind items which appeared to be garbage at first, but now appear to be some kind of precious metal worth recycling – possibly aluminum or even steel. Because time is short before they reach their expiration dates, I’m leaving them on a bench in the park for others to figure them out beyond what I can do.
One leads nowhere, but is interesting as hell, and typical of the politics in my dear sister’s abode. The other is potentially shocking in its ramifications, because it appears to be part of a new global hoax. And while Democrat hoaxes are a dime a dozen – even the global ones that involve millions of deaths – a new one is always good for many memes.
So let’s GO THERE. Shocking goes first, because it’s less of a mystery.
This JV “aw shucks” red shirt barely got a speaking role in Star Trek: Pelosi, after a squeaker Oscar from a Trump-praised performance in the off-season nail-biter indy film District 12. Everybody thinks he’s gonna win a role in Star Trek: McCarthy, but certain virally persuasive overseas backers of the project seem to have a different idea for the next installment of the franchise – both the youngish talent and the name of the film. Two young starlets seeking the role, curiously the same age, are being sent out, like young, fresh, female versions of Mini Mike and Crazy Bernie, in a match that looks curiously like Biden vs. Bernie. Those with an opinion think it’s all Blue League Roller Derby, but nobody knows who Captain P. really plans to have star with her in the internationally-backed sequel. The last “aw shucks” blue shirt wasn’t convincing enough to get the role. Will a white AOC do it?
The young starlets both say the right things to get an audition – that it’s time to reign in the phasers and retire McCoy’s country doctor routine for whoever that guy named “O” gives you. One swears she’s almost a red shirt, and that hubs is handy with a phaser. But still – she says we gotta do something about unregulated phasers, unequal medical scanners, and unapproved, misleading fanfic. On that last item, hope you’re ready for a No. 2 pencilneck. Scary stuff. The other swears that she’s an outsider – despite money, organization, attention to process, and that old picture of her with the genius who invented the internet. One looks like she walked out of White Hatty’s Palace of Smoke and Mirrors. The other looks like an Irish version of AOC.
The red-haired AOC is running as Florence Nightingale above the fold, and curiously in time with the moment’s viral melodies coming from the overseas backers. Very convenient that they’re sending such particular casting right now – when a closer inspection shows that this particular talent may have been in the pipe for quite some time. The implications are unsettling.
This character actor has played a wide variety of minor roles in local and regional theater, as well as a few years in the cinematic big time. He’s a local red shirt machine room boy from way back. Never rose above red shirt, but he has always been a popular team player. He was holding the hatchet when Tea-phoid Mary went down, so the machine could get their boy into the starring role in One of Fifty Theaters. It was a clean hit, but it was dirty politics. Dirty politics, as the last theater star bitterly called it on his way out. The karma – it burns.
Somebody wants revenge. The Mailers of Death are falling all over Fox Meadows like it’s VJ day and the bombers are on the horizon. The character actor, long ago, said unfortunate things about a man who would become No. 1 on Team Red. Those things are coming back to haunt him. Old machine things, and old machine positions, distorted in embarrassing ways, so obviously that’s not who’s behind the leaflet drop. In fact, the machine room wants him in the show, again, in a non-speaking role. But it may not be enough. If people aren’t reading their slate cards, or if the Bible-and-Gun-Cling-ons successfully decloak, this old red shirt may go where red shirts are wont to go.
The big question is, who does Red No. 1 really want here? It’s too small for an endorsement either way, and Red Shirt may not be the most Q+T-pie pick of the litter, but he wields a mean hatchet that might be useful for Blind Item #1, when the Borg arrive in the fall. Trust the Plan? Sure. Trust the Machine? Nobody knows, because nobody knows if it’s part of the Plan. Mysteries abound.
There you go. I have a strong idea what is going on here – COUGH – but I will let this sit out there for a while before I post reveals, in hopes that I’ll have better answers.
Enjoy the show. Even if it’s all kabuki.
Links to Two Prior Threads:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/no-justice/
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/15/work-thread-how-in-the-hell-did-mccabe-skate/
Please note that I am not able to read all comments to me, and may miss yours. We are going to move fast now – don’t assume I read your comments unless you actually get a LIKE or a REPLY from me. If neither, I probably didn’t see it. Like I said, we’re moving to warp speed. Drop it again if I need to see it, but it better be good. -W
It is now very important to RECONFIGURE YOUR THINKING about what is going on in Washington.
They are going to try to distract you with LOOK, SQUIRREL…..
when the thing you should really be looking at is the LIU-K, WOLFE!
President Trump, in firing (in two brilliant steps) the CORRUPT Jessie K. Liu, has just powered up his new-fangled nuclear-powered laser which is going to dry up the swamp in a jiffy.
There is SO much more, and I am hoping that ALL YOU COMMENTERS will add many, many more items to the list of “what was part of this shit“. It’s all VERY BIG.
But there is ONE SPECIAL PART that just connects EVERYTHING.
Sundance was RIGHT that it was the DOJ that was at the center – the dirty, rotten CENTER – the Eric Holder CENTER – of all the nastiness that was arrayed against Citizen Trump, Candidate Trump, and ultimately President Trump.
AND LITTLE MISS NASTY, ERIC HOLDER’S LITTLE SPIDER WHO WOULDN’T HURT A FLY, JUST GOT HER SPINNERETS KICKED RIGHT OUT OF THE WEB.
In particular, Jessie Liu protected ONE THING which – once you see it – shows you how ROTTEN and POISONOUS the whole damn thing was.
But FIRST, I have to help you see it. Or bring in a friend to do it.
Remember – IT’S ALL ABOUT MISDIRECTION. Both how they tried to attack our VSG. And how he defeated them.
SUNDANCE is going to do the heavy lifting. RIGHT NOW.
First, I want you to READ THIS SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY. Read it twice if you have to.
NOW – if you have read this CAREFULLY, then you understand that Jessie Liu was basically in charge of making everything VANISH in plain sight, while making it NOT look like that’s what she was doing.
She tried at all times to make it look like she was actually helping President Trump, when in fact she was SAVING THE SWAMP. In particular, she single-handedly took all the heat off of the role of CONGRESS – both the House and the Senate, but especially the SENATE – in the plot against Trump.
To do this, she had to let a SPYGATE LEAKER – James Wolfe of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) – get off on the ACTUAL charges that mattered – the LEAKING CHARGES – and convict him on the lesser charge of simply lying to the FBI. This, of course, would hide the circumstances of the leaking. And THAT was very important to the Swamp.
I repeat. Jessie K. Liu protected the Swamp from justice for some of THE MOST DAMAGING parts of the Spygate story. She *LITERALLY* obstructed justice.
Frankly, at this point, I wonder if Wolfe actually DID lie to the FBI, or if that was an engineered charge precisely to let him off easy, while BURYING the actual substantial charges and circumstances surrounding the leak.
In any event, Sundance saw this IMMEDIATELY for what it was – a naked dereliction of the DOJ’s duty, and particularly stunning in light of Trump’s promise to plug leaks and treat leakers like the criminals they are.
Sundance used to be quite angry about this. It seemed like nothing would ever be done about it.
UNTIL TODAY.
With Jessie Liu – the gal who let off James Wolfe, and was PLANNING to let off Andrew McCabe – out of the picture – there are all kinds of possibilities for a CHAIN REACTION in the swamp.
So – NOW – what did the SWAMP in DOJ do in response to this? A desperation move. An SJW Lawfare HOAX.
SUNDANCE explains again.
Remember – what the Mueller DOJ attorneys are doing is just another very big form of LOOK, SQUIRREL.
This is rather cunning of these DOJ attorneys. This is pure LAWFARE. They are setting a fire and jumping ship. By leaving DOJ, they protect themselves from internal investigation and any requirement to tell the truth WITH CANDOR. If they leave, they can hide evidence of the coup.
There will be a fight over pardoning Roger Stone for being prosecuted in a hoax investigation, and that is a good thing. However, DO NOT be distracted from the main issue here.
The main issue is THIS:
THERE WAS A BROAD, DEEP, AND PERVASIVE PLOT – CENTERED AT THE HOLDER DOJ – TO TAKE OUT CITIZEN TRUMP, CANDIDATE TRUMP, AND ULTIMATELY PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT PLOT INVOLVED ALMOST EVERY BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
This was more than just a hoax. It was more than just “SpyGate”. It was a
Normally, what we see in a coup, is the MILITARY being used in a plot against the head of state.
But in this coup, we saw the CIVILIAN branches of government being used instead – largely because the head of state was TOO POPULAR with the military.
We truly live in amazing times.
Sundance has rightly surmised that Trump and Barr have just split the atom under the corruptos in DOJ, and that this explosion leads to a LOT more fusion than just Fusion GPS.
There will be booms EVERYWHERE. ALL ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT.
Enjoy the show.
W
Thank God for President Trump!
Today is a day to celebrate!
20200206: High Noon, President Trump Speech on His Acquittal
No one would help him clean up the town, so the Sheriff did it alone.
Razorbak respectfully disagrees: The Sheriff Has his posse of which, we are all a part 🙂
Very true. We are fighting for Trump because he is fighting for us.
But in the beginning, no one was on Trump’s side, except for the forgotten men and women in the shattered remnants of patriotic America.
The reason why was simple, and Trump told us himself:
“The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election.”
Trillions of dollars at stake.
He knew that’s why no one would help him, at least not at first. He had to break down the Washington power structures before he could begin to reform and effect change.
And he was going to have to do it essentially single-handedly.
Yes. Single-handedly. Even with a Republican congress, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were political enemies at the outset, not allies. Ryan would show himself to be part of the resistance and only able to work with Trump when the situation forced his hand.
McConnell would be another story. Needless to say it would take much work to resolve the fundamental relational differences between Trump the MAGA outsider and McConnell leader of the CoC party.
The loss of the House in 2018 did little to improve the situation: The House was still not cooperating with the President. The biggest difference now was that the House was focused on cashing out their Insurance Policy. Only the movie changed, from “RINO Theater” to “Impeachment Theater”.
With their insurance benefits expended and expired, this is a good time to take a look back at what was one of Trump’s most important, most critical policy speeches, re-evaluate it against what we’ve learned, and overlay the new constructs that have become apparent. Predictable patterns to QTree readers will emerge in hindsight; regardless the remarkable foresight of Candidate Trump is astonishing. He predicted an ugly fight he would have to face, and what was at stake, but more importantly he laid down the gauntlet in plain and no uncertain terms for all to see. Even his enemies.
He has taken on the worst of the Washington establishment, and he has won.
Decisively.
There is still more winning to do and many more battles yet to fight, but Donald Trump is clearly the victor today, the champion of the American people.
So without further ado, Trump’s Most Important Speech from October 13, 2016:
Wow. What a group. What a group. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, folks. Thank you, folks. It’s great to be right here in Florida, which we love.
In 26 days, we are going to win this great, great state and we are going to win the White House.
Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt — now, when I say “corrupt,” I’m talking about totally corrupt — political establishment, with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
There is nothing the political establishment will not do — no lie that they won’t tell, to hold their prestige and power at your expense. And that’s what’s been happening.
The Washington establishment and the financial and media corporations that fund it exist for only one reason: to protect and enrich itself.
The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. As an example, just one single trade deal they’d like to pass involves trillions of dollars, controlled by many countries, corporations and lobbyists.
For those who control the levers of power in Washington, and for the global special interests, they partner with these people that don’t have your good in mind. Our campaign represents a true existential threat like they haven’t seen before.
This is not simply another four-year election. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not we the people reclaim control over our government.
The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration and economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry.
The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories, and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries all around the world. Our just-announced job numbers are anemic. Our gross domestic product, or GDP, is barely above 1 percent. And going down. Workers in the United States are making less than they were almost 20 years ago, and yet they are working harder.
But so am I working harder, that I can tell you.
It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.
Just look at what this corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit; Flint, Michigan; and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina and all across our country. Take a look at what’s going on. They stripped away these town bare. And raided the wealth for themselves and taken our jobs away out of our country never to return unless I’m elected president.
The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure. We’ve seen this first hand in the WikiLeaks documents, in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors.
So true.
Honestly, she should be locked up. Should be locked up.
And likewise the e-mails show that the Clinton machine is so closely and irrevocably tied to the media organizations that she, that she — listen to this — is given the questions and answers in advance of her debate performance with Bernie Sanders.
Hillary Clinton is also given approval and veto power over quotes written about her in the New York Times.
They definitely do not do that to me, that I can tell you.
And the e-mails show the reporters collaborate and conspire directly with the Clinton campaign on helping her win the election all over.
With their control over our government at stake, with trillions of dollars on the line, the Clinton machine is determined to achieve the destruction of our campaign, not gonna to happen.
Which has now become a great, great movement, the likes of which our country has never seen before, never ever.
They’ve never seen a movement like this in our country before. Yesterday in Florida, massive crowds, people lined up outside of big arenas, not able to get in. Never happened before. It’s one of the phenomenas — it’s one of the great political phenomenas. The most powerful weapon deployed by the Clintons is the corporate media, the press.
Let’s be clear on one thing, the corporate media in our country is no longer involved in journalism. They’re a political special interest no different than any lobbyist or other financial entity with a total political agenda, and the agenda is not for you, it’s for themselves.
For them it’s a war, and for them nothing at all is out of bounds. This is a struggle for the survival of our nation, believe me. And this will be our last chance to save it on Nov. 8, remember that.
This election will determine whether we are a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system, and our system is rigged. This is reality, you know it, they know it, I know it, and pretty much the whole world knows it. The establishment and their media enablers will control over this nation through means that are very well known. Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe, and morally deformed.
They will attack you, they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation. They will lie, lie, lie, and then again they will do worse than that, they will do whatever is necessary. The Clintons are criminals, remember that. They’re criminals.
This is well documented, and the establishment that protects them has engaged in a massive cover-up of widespread criminal activity at the State Department and the Clinton Foundation in order to keep the Clintons in power.
Never in history have we seen such a cover-up as this, one that includes the total destruction of 33,000 e-mails, 13 iPhones – some by hammer – laptops, missing boxes of evidence, and many, many other things.
People who are capable of such crimes against our nation are capable of anything. And so now we address the slander and libels that was just last night thrown at me by the Clinton machine and the New York Times and other media outlets, as part of a concerted, coordinated and vicious attack.
It’s not coincidence that these attacks come at the exact same moment, and all together at the same time as WikiLeaks releases documents exposing the massive international corruption of the Clinton machine, including 2,000 more e-mails just this morning.
These vicious claims about me of inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false.
And the Clintons know it, and they know it very well. These claims are all fabricated. They’re pure fiction and they’re outright lies. These events never, ever happened and the people said them meekly fully understand. You take a look at these people, you study these people, and you’ll understand also.
The claims are preposterous, ludicrous, and defy truth, common sense and logic. We already have substantial evidence to dispute these lies, and it will be made public in an appropriate way and at an appropriate time very soon.
These lies come from outlets whose past stories and past claims have already been discredited. The media outlets did not even attempt to confirm the most basic facts because even a simple investigation would have shown that these were nothing more than false smears.
Six months ago, the failing New York Times wrote a massive story attacking me, and the central witness they used said the story was false; that she was quoted inaccurately. She said that I was a great guy. She had great courage, I’ll be honest with you. She was an amazing person. And never made those remarks — that I was a great guy, and never made the remarks.
And when I read the story, I was sort of surprised — how could she say that? And she didn’t say it.
We demanded a retraction but, they refused to print it, just like they refused to pin the comments from another source who praised me in her book, or the words of another wonderful woman who said really nice things about me. They put other statements that she didn’t say, they misrepresented. The story was a fraud and a big embarrassment to The New York Times and it was a big front page story. Front page, center, color picture, a disgrace. They were very embarrassed; it will be part of the lawsuit we are preparing against them.
Now, today the same two discredited writers, who should’ve been fired from The New York Times for what they did, tell another totally fabricated and false story, that supposedly took place on an airplane more than 30 years ago. Another ridiculous tale, no witnesses, no nothing.
Then, there was a writer from People Magazine, who wrote a story on Melania and myself on our first anniversary. The story was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was lovely. But last night we hear that after 12 years — this took place 12 years ago, this story — a new claim that I made inappropriate advances during the interview to this writer.
And I asked very simple question, why wasn’t it part of the story that appeared 20 or 12 years ago? Why wasn’t it a part of the story? Why didn’t they make it part of the story? I was one of the biggest stars on television with The Apprentice and I would’ve been one of the biggest stories of the year. Think of it, she’s doing this story on Melania, who was pregnant at the time. And Donald Trump, our one year anniversary, and she said I made inappropriate advances, and by the way, the area was a public area, people all over the place.
Take a look, you take a look. Look at her, look at her words. You tell me, what you think. I don’t think so. I don’t think so.
But, it is amazing, doing a story — a love story — on how great we are together — and by the way, we’re stronger today than we ever were before, which is good, but it’s a love story. It’s a love story on our one year. And if I did that, she would’ve added that it would’ve been the headline. And who would’ve done that if you’re doing this and you’re one of the top shows on television.
These people are horrible people. They’re horrible, horrible liars. And interestingly, it happens to appear 26 days before our very important election, isn’t that amazing?
This invented account has already been debunked by eyewitnesses who were there. They were there. The very witness identified by the author has said the story is totally false.
By the way, this is a room that everybody can see in. It’s got glass walls. It’s at Mar-A-Lago. It’s got glass walls. Can you believe this? Why wasn’t it in the story, biggest story of the year?
This weekend, The New York Times published a full-page hit piece with another claim from an individual who has been totally discredited based on the many, many, many e-mails and letters she has sent to our office over the years, looking for work, Donald is great, wanting go to my rallies. But The New York Times — and this was full op-ed piece — refused to use the evidence that we presented, refused to use it. If they used it, if they would have looked, they would have said, there’s no story here.
Others in the media, which almost surprises me because they’re dishonest also, were presented with the story by this woman numerous times, and they got very excited. But, after seeing the evidence that we immediately give them, all of them refused to write the story. There was no story.
The Times, though, didn’t want to see it. They just wrote the story. And this was a full page opposite the editorials. This is part of a concerted effort, led by The New York Times and others. Now The New York Times is fighting desperately for its relevance and its financial survival. And it probably won’t even be around in a few years, based on its financial outlook, which wouldn’t be a bad thing, if you want to know the truth.
But, as it winds down its years and is becoming more and more problematic, it’s gotten more and more vicious, more and more vile. And even the other mainstream media is talking about the single greatest pile-on in history, and all between now and Nov. 8. And you have to see the stories they’ve written, it’s one after another, after another, and facts mean nothing, third-rate journalism. The great editors of the past from The New York Times and others, ladies and gentlemen, are spinning in their grave.
I will not allow the Clinton machine to turn our campaign into a discussion of their slanders and lies, but, will remain focused on the issues facing the American people.
Thank you, thank you. But, let me state this as clearly as I can, these attacks are orchestrated by the Clintons and their media allies. The only thing Hillary Clinton has going for herself is the press, without the press, she is absolutely zero.
And you saw that the other night in the debate, where some people said she made virtually a fool of herself. This is not presidential material, believe me. What they say is false and slanderous in virtually every respect. We are now less than a month from the most election of our lifetime. Indeed one of the most important elections in the history of our country. And the polls are showing us in a dead heat. Don’t believe what you say.
The new, highly respected Rasmussen poll just came out this morning. Just released. Shows up nationally 2 points ahead, Trump. Beautiful.
Just came out. So now the Clinton machine has put forward a small handful of people out of tens of thousands of people over the years that I’ve met, that I’ve worked with, that I’ve employed, in order to make wild and false allegations that fail to meet even the most basic test of common sense. Not even common sense.
Again, this is nothing more than an attempt to destroy our movement and for the Clintons to keep their corrupt control over our government. When I declared my candidacy, I knew what bad shape our country was in. And believe me, all you have to do is look at world events. All you have to do is look at the $1.7 billion that we sent to Iran in cash – in cash.
All you have to do is see the way ISIS was created in the vacuum left by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama out of Iraq. All you have to do, all you have to do, is look at the 800 people that were very, very not good for our nation. They were going to be deported. Lo and behold, instead of being deported, they were made citizens of the United States just recently.
And lo and behold, sadly, the 800 people is wrong. It turned out to be close to 1,800 people. Our president is incompetent. All he wants to do is campaign, and the last thing he wants to happen is to have Donald Trump terminate Obamacare and do all of the other things that are destroying …
He’s led a very divided nation and it’s only gotten worse. And the last thing our country needs is four more years of Barack Obama, believe me. I’ve seen firsthand the corruption and the sickness that has taken over our politics. You’ve seen it and I’ve seen it and we’re all watching together.
They knew they would throw every lie they could at me and my family and my loved ones. They knew they would stop at nothing to try to stop me. But I never knew as bad as it would be. I never knew it would be this vile, that it would be this bad, that it would be this vicious.
Nevertheless, I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you.
I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back.
Our great civilization, here in America and across the civilized world has come upon a moment of reckoning. We’ve seen it in the United Kingdom, where they voted to liberate themselves from global government and global trade deal, and global immigration deals that have destroyed their sovereignty and have destroyed many of those nations. But, the central base of world political power is right here in America, and it is our corrupt political establishment that is the greatest power behind the efforts at radical globalization and the disenfranchisement of working people. Their financial resources are virtually unlimited, their political resources are unlimited, their media resources are unmatched, and most importantly, the depths of their immorality is absolutely unlimited.
They will allow radical Islamic terrorists to enter our country by the thousands.
They will allow the great Trojan horse — and I don’t want people looking back in a hundred years and 200 years and have that story be told about us because we were led by inept, incompetent and corrupt people like Barack Obama and like Hillary Clinton. We don’t want to be part of that history.
And by the way, President Obama should stop campaigning and start working on creating jobs, start working on getting our GDP up, start working on strengthening our borders.
The corrupt political establishment is a machine, it has no soul. I knew these false attacks would come. I knew this day would arrive; it’s only a question of when. And I knew the American people would rise above it and vote for the future they deserve.
The only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. The only force strong enough to save our country is us. The only people brave enough to vote out this corrupt establishment is you, the American people.
We are going to have a policy: America first.
They control incredibly, the Department of Justice.
And they even secretly meet with the Attorney General of the United States. In the back of her airplane, while on the runway — remember he was there — he was going to play golf. Oh, oh gee, there’s the Attorney General. Let me go say hello — plane’s on the runway. Let me go say hello to the Attorney General. He never got to play golf, I understand. And it was Arizona, a place I love, but the weather was about a hundred and some odd degrees — he’s not gonna play. He was never there to play golf, folks, don’t be foolish.
They met for 39 minutes and most likely it was to discuss her reappointment, in a Clinton administration, as the Attorney General, just prior to making a decision over whether or not to prosecute Hillary Clinton, okay? That’s what happened. That’s called real life and that’s pretty sad.
They met for 39 minutes. Remember he said, we talked golf and we talked about our grandchildren. Three minutes for the grandchildren, two minutes for the golf, then they sat there and they twiddled their thumbs. Now I believe they talked about her remaining in her position under a crooked Hillary Clinton administration. That’s what I believe. That’s what I believe folks. That’s what I believe and I think that’s what most people in this room believe.
Likewise, they’ve essentially corrupted the Director of the FBI to the point at which stories are already saying that the great — and they are truly great — men and women who work for the FBI are embarrassed and ashamed of what he’s done to one of our truly great institutions, the FBI itself.
Hillary Clinton is guilty of all the things that Director Comey stated at his press conference and Congressional hearings and far more. He stated many things, but it’s far more and he knows that. And yet, after reading all of these items, where she’s so guilty, he let her off the hook. While other lives, including General Petraeus and many others, have been destroyed for doing far, far less. This is a conspiracy against you, the American people, and we cannot let this happen or continue.
This is our moment of reckoning as a society and as a civilization itself. I didn’t need to do this, folks, believe me — believe me. I built a great company and I had a wonderful life. I could have enjoyed the fruits and benefits of years of successful business deals and businesses for myself and my family. Instead of going through this absolute horror show of lies, deceptions, malicious attacks — who would have thought? I’m doing it because this country has given me so much, and I feel so strongly that it’s my turn to give back to the country that I love.
Many of my friends and many political experts warned me that this campaign would be a journey to hell – said that. But they’re wrong. It will be a journey to heaven, because we will help so many people that are so desperately in need of help.
In my former life, I was an insider as much as anybody else. And I knew what it’s like, and I still know what it’s like to be an insider. It’s not bad. It’s not bad. Now I’m being punished for leaving the special club and revealing to you the terrible things that are going on having to do with our country. Because I used to be part of the club, I’m the only one that can fix it.
I’m doing this for the people and for the movement, and we will take back this country for you and we will make America great again.
The corrupt establishment knows that we are a great threat to their criminal enterprise. They know that if we win, their power is gone, and it’s returned to you, the people, will be. The dark clouds hanging over our government can be lifted and replaced with a bright future. But it all depends on whether we let the corrupt media decide our future or whether we let the American people decide our future.
If this Clinton campaign of destruction is allowed to work, then no other highly success — and this is so true, I mean I’ve seen this so many times, and I’ve heard this all of my life, I’ve heard it all of my life. If we let this happen, then no other highly-successful person, which is what our country needs — it needs a certain thinking. When you look at our trade deals that are so bad, when you look, as an example, on trade, we’re going to lose almost $800 billion this year, trade deficit, almost $800 billion. Our debt has doubled in seven and a half years to almost $20 trillion, under Obama.
No other successful person, after watching this, and no other very successful person will ever again, ever — and who can blame them? Even me, I’d say, you’re right — will ever again run for office. I’ve heard it for years, if you’re very successful, you can’t run for high office, especially for President. I said, I don’t care, I don’t care. I’ve done so many deals, I’ve done so well. It’s a certain mindset that we need in our country, at least for a period of time. We have to straighten our country out.
I will not lie to you. These false attacks are absolutely hurtful. To be lied about, to be slandered, to be smeared so publicly, and before your family that you love, is very painful. What is going on is egregious beyond any words. People that know the story, people that see the story, people that know the facts, they can’t even believe it. It’s reprehensible beyond description, it’s totally corrupt.
But, I also know that it’s not about me. It’s about all of you and it’s about our country. I know that. I fully understand that. That’s why I got involved. It’s about all of us together as a country. It’s a movement the likes of which we have never in history in this country seen before, never in history. Even the pundits, even the media — that truly dislikes Donald Trump for their own reasons — will admit this is a movement the likes of which people have never seen before.
And it’s a movement about the veterans who need medical care, the mothers who’ve lost their beloved children to terrorism and to crime. It’s about the inner cities and the border towns who desperately need our help. It’s about the millions of jobless people in America. It’s about the American workers who can’t get jobs because our jobs have left for Mexico and so many other countries.
This election is about the people being crushed by Obamacare. And it’s about defeating ISIS and appointing a Supreme Court and a Supreme Court Justice — it could be four or five — who will defend and protect our Constitution.
This election is also about, so importantly to me, African-American and Hispanic-American people whose communities have been plunged into crime, poverty and failing schools by the policies of crooked Hillary Clinton. Believe me, she’s crooked.
They’ve robbed these citizens of their future and, if we win, I will give them their hope, their jobs, their education. I will give them their security back. The inner cities, education is almost worthless, it’s horrible. We’re going to have Common Core ended. We’re going to bring education local.
But, you look at the inner cities and you see bad education, no jobs, no safety. You walk to the grocery store with your child and you get shot. You walk outside to look and see what’s happening and you get shot. In Chicago, 3,000 people have been shot since Jan. 1. We’re not going to let that happen. Our inner cities are almost at an all-time low, run by the Democrats for sometimes more than a hundred years, chain unbroken.
So they have no jobs. They have horrible education. They have no safety or security and I say to the African-American community, what the hell do you have to lose? I will fix it. I will fix it. I will make it good. I’ll bring back our jobs. We’ll have good education. We’ll have great safety in the inner city.
And we will help the Hispanic-American people, who have been treated so badly and so unfairly in our nation, we will help them.
I will deliver like you’ve never seen before. I deliver. Whether people like Donald Trump or not, they all say he delivers.
Vote for Donald Trump. You’re going to see something and you’ll be so happy. You’ll be so thrilled. This election is about every man, woman and child in our country who deserves to live in safety, prosperity and peace, so true. We will rise above the lies, the smears, the ludicrous slanders from ludicrous and very, very dishonest reporters.
We will vote for the country we want. We will vote for the future we want. We will vote for the politics we want and we will vote to put this corrupt government cartel out of business and out of business immediately.
We will vote for the special interests and say lots of luck, but you’re being voted out of power. They’ve betrayed our workers, they’ve betrayed our borders and, most of all, they’ve betrayed our freedoms. We will save our sovereign rights as a nation. We will end the politics of profit. We will end the rule of special interests. We will end the raiding of our jobs by other countries. We will end the total disenfranchisement of the American voter and the American worker. Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on Nov. 8.
Join me in taking back our country and creating a bright, glorious, and prosperous new future for our people. We will make America great again, and it will happen quickly.
God bless you. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you.
Time has come for another update thread on the Coronavirus. We have a National Emergency declared by Sec. Alex Azar. Dr. Robert Redfield is the Director of CDC. Across media, surprisingly non-political, the WH team is being lauded as serious. Within the USA, 11+ people infected, 191 under investigation. Dr. Anthony Falchi, Director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. Steve Began is Deputy Sec of State. Sec. of Homeland Security, Ken Cuccinelli, Dept of Transportation, among others, are all involved. It’s an “all hands on deck approach”.
Flights to and from China have shut down. Borders to Hong Kong, Russia, DPRK, Tibet, have all closed as a precaution. The Forbidden City, Shanghai Disneyland, The Great Wall, tourist attractions are all shut down. American companies in Chin have shuttered. Starbuck’s, McDonald’s locations are closed. Between 50-90 million people are designated as “quarantined”. Within China, as of this date 811 are dead, approx 37K+ infected, and approx 80-90 THOUSAND people are being “observed”. Half the factories in China have extended “golden week” and will not go back to work. Over 80% of China’s export production has been shut down. As far as Beijing, a city of 35 million people, the streets are noticeably empty.
Different countries are responding in various ways. Italy had 6000 people stuck on a cruise ship because they learned of one passenger from Wuhan.
In Japan, a cruise ship with 3700 aboard has been quarantined as 61 people test positive for the Coronavirus, including two Americans. From the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-02-05/coronavirus-cruise-passengers-diamond-princess
Hat tip to ItsWoot, this might be a great source to check: This is the website for the military version of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) Nothing here yet, or any other recent updates, on Coronavirus. Maybe worth checking on for research insights that they may come up with independent of the CDC. https://www.usamriid.army.mil/
Follow the Hashtag #Coronavirus on Twitter but be leery of information, even from blue-checked-marked accounts. Remember, a journalist with a degree in English doesn’t know squat about infectious diseases. We truly do NOT want to disseminate bad information and unnecessarily scare the public.
The source of https://pandemic.warroom.org/ is excellent for updates. Steve Bannon, Jason Miller (Trump Camp Comms Director for Transition), and Raheem Kassan (Breitbart editor in London) started a “War Room” broadcast for Impeachment. About a week ago, they started a separate War Room for the Pandemic, one of the first to jump on the issue. This source gathers info from all over media, other sources, and has clips from a daily update.
The War Room folks have been following the Pandemic, analyzing impact on health and economy for over a week. Please bookmark and follow for more info. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZgoa-viEQc
The following study is leaking out of India and causing serious alarm. It’s why our stock market was down 600 points last Friday. STUDY is NOT confirmed as yet and has been removed, but drifting all over the internet. We thought it was a good idea to address the rumor and NOT avoid it. Those who are seriously involved on this issue are crawling all over these findings. Why? Because of the alleged results. India study claims there is another RNA strand in the virus….. which would not naturally occur, implying it is a bioweapon or manufactured by man. People flipped out over this rumor and the market sold off in a big way. Again, NOT confirmed and serious questions about peer review for this study – study has been REMOVED which only raises more questions.
Article title: Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”, Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon
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by Tyler Durden
Fri, 01/31/2020 – 17:35An excerpt from the conclusion of the article:
…Until he realized something disturbing. Oh my god. Indian scientists have just found HIV (AIDS) virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov virus that are not found in any other coronavirus. They hint at the possibility that this Chinese virus was designed [“not fortuitous’]. Scary if true. https://t.co/h6xPX1gYvj pic.twitter.com/kCpd1I00uE
— Anand Ranganathan (@ARanganathan72) January 31, 2020
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon
“Scary”… but relax, it’s just another ridiculous “conspiracy.”
The information is pouring out from all source at this point.
The letters and Diaries of our grandparents provide useful advice as to how they survived the Spanish Flu of 1918. Look through our past posts for full details, and great stories. General advice is to take off shoes, clothes, at the back door and shower immediately when entering the home. Clothes washed in hottest water possible, cleaning surfaces and switch-plates, no rubbing of eyes, and a great deal of hand-washing.
HERE IT IS, H/T TO DEP AND CONCERNED VIRGINIAN: Advice on how to get thru the Spanish Flu from 1918:
Concerned Virginian posted this on Thursday, Jan. 30’s Open Thread. I’m just going to copy the instructions part of the post:
From a posting by a person who received an email from an MD friend — this MD is ALREADY doing these:
N-100 masks and disposable gloves for ALL outside interactions beginning 7 February (already doing this in-clinic);
Replace ALL home air filters / AC and heatpump filters every 2 weeks until the danger passes;
Disinfect ALL doorknobs / railings / handles etc. with disinfectant wipes (hospital-grade);
HOTTEST WATER possible / tolerable for laundry / dishwasher / showering;
Have a “drop room” area in the home where ALL clothes are removed upon returning home. These clothes go directly into the washing machine. SHOES are sprayed inside and out with Lysol. Proceed to take a hot shower and put on clean clothes.
This MD’s grandfather (also an MD) followed a similar routine during the 1918-1920 Great Spanish Flu pandemic. Apparently they have the grandmother’s diary from that time which detailed how they survived.
From other comments:
If the Wuhan Coronavirus does indeed follow the various projections of infection / death rate, it will be imperative for people to be able to shelter in place for an extended time, with only medical personnel and (probably limited) police-fire-EMS services available to work outside the home.
It will be imperative for people to have enough supplies, including prescription drugs, at home..
New Chiefio thread on the virus:
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2020/01/29/global-ncov-corona-virus-outbreak/
Look forward to your responses. Thank you for participating.
NOTE FROM WOLF: Please go to the newest update thread BELOW for current postings:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/20200201-coronavirus-update-thread-3/
This thread retained for reference and historical data.
Thank you – and thank you, Daughn, for these threads!
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Our Coronavirus thread has grown substantially. Please consider this the update thread. This thread will run all week long (unless something dire happens and we need another one but not likely).
None of us want to spread bad information, and we don’t want to OVERreact and spread hysteria. The problem with this issue is, that as fast as the disease is spreading, so is the bad information. Thus, this thread. Perhaps we can sort fact from fiction within this forum.
Most of the reporting refers to various provinces of China (like our states). This map might be helpful as a reference.
World Health Organization Link: https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
American CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
The South China Morning Post is an outlet many of us follow. They are tracking the story closely. Here is their link: https://www.scmp.com/news/china
Hat tip to Itswoot for the following link and idea:
This is the website for the military version of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) Nothing here yet, or any other recent updates, on Coronavirus. Maybe worth checking on for research insights that they may come up with independent of the CDC.https://www.usamriid.army.mil/
The details of the Coronavirus are sketchy and unreliable, which is why I avoided posting a thread. None of us want to spread bad information, and we don’t want to OVERreact and spread hysteria. The problem with this issue is, that as fast as the disease is spreading, so is the bad information. Thus, this thread. Perhaps we can sort fact from fiction within this forum.
Most of the reporting refers to various provinces of China (like our states). This map might be helpful as a reference.
World Health Organization Link: https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
American CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
The South China Morning Post is an outlet many of us follow. They are tracking the story closely. I counted a total of 25 stories about Coronavirus on their main page this morning. Here is their link: https://www.scmp.com/news/china
We know the US Senate has been briefed on the virus. Here is the President’s latest tweet:
This video is from a BBC reporter crossing a checkpoint in Henan (on the interior). He had his temperature checked before crossing the border.
Dr Eric Feigl-Ding, Harvard PhD in Epidemiology, and youngest dual PhD from Harvard SPH, has a thread which explains the contagen and the virality of spread, which scientists characerize as an RO factor. What is the typical R0 attack rate for the seasonal flu in most years? It’s around an R0=1.28. The 2009 flu pandemic? R0=1.48. The 1918 Spanish Flu? 1.80. This new #WuhanCoronavirus reproductive value again? R0=3.8 Reference for the typical spread rate of seasonal flu is found here: https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2334-14-480 and the model for the Coronavirus is found here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1 Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding is alarmed by the high rate of spread for this virus.
PLEASE understand, the above thread is alarming………..!!!!!!! Kyle Bass, the hedge fund guy who has specialized in China for decades responds to the info posted by Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (above) as follows:
If we think of the Coronavirus as a super version of a common cold, then we should make sure to wash hands, doorknobs, switchplates, cover mouth and nose when sneezing, ……. and don’t eat partially cooked bat soup from China. NOTE: The CDC in the USA has changed their position and is specifically NOT confirming the source of the disease as the Wet Animal Market in Wuhan. The CDC has yet to determine the source of this disease.
Within this thread, please dump your comments and theories, videos and links. Perhaps together, we can all get closer to the truth.
