“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Apparently, our little Coronavirus thread, and updated threads, are MILES ahead of the politicians and pundits on MSM (Sure wish we received classified briefings though, can you put in a word for us, Wolfie?) AND, I’ve found, publishing OUR link, along with a message of “We’ve been working on this issue since January. Here are 100’s of links, videos, sources, and hints. Be informed, not fearful”……… shuts down all political opposition. It’s truly stunning how ill-informed the media is on the subject (or they are intentionally misleading the public). The amount of DISINFO presents a hazard.
Nonetheless, our little thread has tremendous value, both as real information for those who are new to the subject or genuinely worried, AND for those who using the virus as a political weapon. I shared our thread today across social media. In the last 7 hours, I’ve received at least 2 dozen private messages of thanks and hundreds of short messages……. people feel better when they have information in their hands. Let’s give them information.
The current thread expires at the end of the month and I’m putting together a new one for the first week of March. Thinking we will update once a week until crisis subsides. Good idea or no?
Please, I need your contributions. Please post here, anything you have. I’ll be happy to sort it out over a long weekend and add to an updated thread. Please include a source/link, where you can and pretty please, DATE the source. I figured out a little too late that dates create a huge problem. For instance, I might type a brief sentence and say “yesterday, Laura Ingraham show”. Well, several days later, I have no idea WHICH day was “yesterday”. See what I mean?
Miss Gail Combs, I was wondering, nudge, nudge, if you could find some spare time, to provide us with a similar update like you did last time. If you can’t get it in by Sunday, I can always edit the post and add it later. Would be most appreciative. Where is Smiley2? I need you, and Aubergine, and the chemist guys, and info about air travel from FG&C, and Bakocarl’s tidbits, and everyone.
People are afraid when they don’t know what they’re dealing with, and we have reams of information. You guys pull items from Chiefio, foreign sources, etc. We always joked that QTree was an amazing collection of expertise, and we’re proving it now, when it counts. We’re fortunate to have different people with varying skill sets (medical- econ- VALUABLE hints from our grandparents- herbal medicine- Heloise-type-hints on how to keep a clean home/office) to add to the post. And it’s the only way to examine the whole problem.
Unless someone has a better idea (and heaven knows, I’m always open to a better idea), we’re going to divide the post into the following categories. If you think we need another category, let me know. This has become, very much, a group project:
The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world.
Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
China Responses
Aggregated responses from other countries (I’m going to tear this one apart)
(WAIT BEFORE READING THIS – we’ll do it together later in the post.)
… on February 17 tells me who is living rent-free in her mind. February the Qth was no accident. And yet – at this point – her little deniable taunt has almost no effect. Rather, it smacks of desperation.
We “know”. We simply know. No amount of calling us “Know Nothings” will save the coup. It’s that simple.
Ah, yes – that would appear to work both ways, for as Thomas Wictor once pointed out, Donald J. Trump may in fact be the most revolutionary President this country has had since EITHER Washington or Lincoln – take your pick.
And they’re TRIGGERED.
The anti-Trump embedded Soviet Democrat apparatus – of which Jenn Rubin is now a painfully, even humorously obvious member, is at this point in an all out war with something they can’t even admit exists, because THEY were the ones who backed themselves into a corner of “know-nothingism” about the QAnon psy-op.
And when I say “psy-op”, I’m really minimizing, because it’s becoming quite clear that the QAnon “anti-coup” is much, much bigger than just the simple world-wide deniable psy-op that it presented on its earlier surface. In fact, “the Q we knew and they loved to denigrate” was like just a single coronavirus spike on the total package, but one with UNDENIABLE, LOGICAL, and FORENSICALLY IRREFUTABLE modified features that pointed with great certainty toward its ORIGIN and TRUTH.
Yes Jenn – you lose TWO TIMES on THAT exact point. ENJOY THE SHOW.
Q is so big, when you understand its true extent and magnitude, that it becomes quite easy to see why it simply scares the HELL out of these people.
The irony is particularly rich here, and of course absolutely exemplary of the fact that the LEFT – of which Jenn Rubin is a “card-carrying” member – is all about accusing others of what THEY either DO or ARE.
NO – the leftists, both the open ones on the left and hidden ones on the fake right, are ON THE ROPES NOW – quite authentically – after having been ROPE-A-DOPED by the one guy who totally got Muhammad Ali at a Sun Tzu level – his authentic friend, Donald J. Trump.
As the electorate is gradually and continuously – as in “nothing can stop what’s coming” – wising up to how the Washington sell-out elite has sandbagged us for well over a century – more so since the advent of FAKE NEWS – the old reliable WEAPONS of the left are simply falling apart.
It’s rather glorious.
Of these weapons, DUPES are among the greatest prizes that Trump has liberated from crypto-Bolshevik worldview captivity. Speaking from my own experience, there is NOTHING – and NOBODY – like a wised-up DUPE to take down communists.
The greatest example, IMO – the great Whittaker Chambers.
Whittaker Chambers offered a rare “view from the inside” of the core communist conspiracy here in America. If you are not familar with his case, you can look, for instance, here.
The fact that I’m bringing Whittaker Chambers up at the same time as Tom Cotton and other former #NeverTrump, or maybe even Jenn Rubin and Alger Hiss, is not due to the inherent similarity of their VERY dissimilar cases, but rather because I want to make an incredibly important point.
DUPING – DECEPTION OF UNDERLINGS, TARGETS, THE OPPOSITION, AND EVEN BYSTANDERS is a CONSTANT across all levels and reaches of communist conspiracy. The duping of Whittaker Chambers and Alger Hiss by their masters differed only from the duping of Jennifer Rubin and Tom Cotton in the type, nature, and specifics of the lies used to get them to behave as desired.
Even within the hierarchy of committed communists, an extraordinary amount of deception occurs in EVERY interaction. It is a nearly, if not exactly, Luciferian economy of lies – not unlike the “carbon economy” that the “climate commies” almost imposed upon us through THEIR army of dupes. One cannot even begin to unravel communist conspiracy without, at every turn, considering whether a player is KNOWING, UNKNOWING, DECEIVED, or ALL OF THE ABOVE. Indeed, Senator Joe McCarthy’s greatest mistake was – in my opinion – failure to sympathize with the dupe – or – more specifically – to sympathize with the dupe in every player.
If you can’t see yourself as a communist pawn, as McCarthy eventually became, you cannot see what they’re doing. It’s a battle with THE LIE itself, and everybody loses a little in the process.
When you understand that the most diehard opponents of communism can easily become its most reliable and predictable marionettes, ready to jump through the right hoops in the left’s next false puppet show (Sea Island conservatives, anyone?), THEN you understand what we are truly up against.
So have a little sympathy for Jenn Rubin – she’s gonna need it. She – like all the rest of us – has been a dupe of the left.
NOW – it’s time to talk about another player in the larger drama – both a DUPE and a DUPER – namely Bill Kristol.
This piece has the NeverTrumpers in a snit—they hate when real journalism exposes what total frauds they are and the left wing interests that fund NeverTrump’s scam. So please share far and wide to further agitate Rick Wilson… https://t.co/GkHwQIbTY7
Look right there, folks. Both the deceiver and the deceived are on display. A DUPE of the left, just passing on the DUPAGE in new ways.
But where does this come from?
The very TOP of Bolshevism – a long time ago – would be my answer.
Deception is a way of life for these people, and it’s not pretty. Bolsheviks – the deepest of the politically deceived, embrace it with every part of their body.
So where does Bill Kristol, the ringmaster of NeverTrump, fit into Bolshevik deception? In my opinion, somewhere down at the hoodwinked Menshevik, CIA tool, familial Trotskyist, “conflicted conservative in a progressive Reform temple” level (the latter being the LITERAL description of similar NeverTrump “conservative” Michael Bloomberg).
I have a LONG, OLD Twitter thread on Bill Kristol and his “pink diaper” background, something critically necessary to understand his essential nature. Sorry if this FIRST enigmatic tweet of the thread does not make immediate sense. Twitter suspended the amazing researcher who I am referencing here. Which brings up a very important point. Twitter bans researchers only in part to remove them. Much more importantly, Twitter does this to hide THOUGHTS, EVIDENCE and KEY REASONING.
This Twitter thread, taking a long and fascinating route, explains WHY we saw the bizarre event of Bill Kristol’s NeverTrump BullWanker Boys defending Kamala Harris and Russian red diaper hoaxer Jussie Smollett from a bad joke that ended up backfiring when taken literally by MAGA Twitter.
I can sum up where the thread leads very simply. Self-deceiving dupes like Mensheviks are CRITICAL to “sell the goods” down the line, and thus FAKE CONSERVATIVES like Kristol, Rubin, and assorted Merry Mensheviks are created, promoted, and amplified to feed the Soviet Fake News with America’s version of Pravda and Izvestia. Whether it’s to promote sabotaged memes like free but unfair trade, used to support world socialism, or to protect core players like Heels-Up Harris and Cryin’ Jussie, fake conservatives have profound uses to the radical left – they are NECESSARY.
Check it out if you’re interested – otherwise, let’s “move on”.
It’s time to RETURN to Jenn Rubin’s paywalled Washington Post opinion piece.
First of all, there is NO WAY that I’m going to ask you to subscribe to that Soviet Fake News monstrosity, the Washington Post, just to see one bogus opinion piece by Jenn Rubin. Ridiculous! And yet – well – you would do well to read it, just to see how the screaming has gone up by an order of magnitude. SO – if you DO have a subscription to this horrible rag, then here is that link again:
When Ivy League-educated, formerly sane politicians spew conspiracy theories, debunked talking points and contempt for science, the question often arises: Do they believe this nonsense (i.e. have they become thickheaded by listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching all that Fox News?), or are they cynical purveyors of claptrap designed to woo unsophisticated voters? (Disclosure: I am an MSNBC contributor.)
That query came to mind when Harvard Law school graduate Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) descended into sheer quackery and decided to perpetrate conspiracies about the origin of the coronavirus. The Post reports:
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) repeated a fringe theory suggesting that the ongoing spread of a coronavirus is connected to research in the disease-ravaged epicenter of Wuhan, China. Cotton referenced a laboratory in the city, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, in an interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures.” He said the lab was near a market some scientists initially thought was a starting point for the virus’s spread.
This is unadulterated nonsense, one step removed from anti-vaxxer rubbish and UFO-spotting. (“In response to Cotton’s remarks, as well as in previous interviews with The Washington Post, numerous experts dismissed the possibility the coronavirus may be man-made.”)
Jenn Rubin, Washington Post, February 17, 2019
Nasty! And it gets worse.
Notice how “The Post” is layering opinion onto their own biased reporting, but keeping them separate, to keep the accusations of – well – WHAT THEY ARE CLEARLY DOING – in check.
Jenn Rubin is resorting to Alinsky ridicule here. Of course the Alinsky press – her employers – are not going to call her to task for being proven WRONG during the following week, as China indeed began to back off strongly on the origins of the virus, as scientific evidence is now CLEARLY showing human manipulation of the protein sequences – changes which simply could not occur though normal evolution. TAMPERING is clear. I don’t particularly care what China’s NEXT excuse is, just like I don’t particularly care what Jenn Rubin’s next attack on our side is.
Listening to Fake News FIRST is almost always the FIRST MISTAKE at this point.
Well, look at that. The Chinese Communist Party’s propaganda rag finally admits what I’ve said for a month: coronavirus didn’t start in Wuhan food market. So where did it originate? Time for answers from CCP. https://t.co/UTvcjvrHNz
Yes, look at that. Just FIVE DAYS LATER and Jenn Rubin goes under China’s bus of continually restated LIES. Nobody had to wait 28 days.
Jennifer Rubin, not only LIKE Communist China, but ALONG WITH Communist China, has simply lost credibility.
You want the news on the coronavirus?
READ OUR THREADS and follow along as we SLOWLY and PAINFULLY figured it all out, gathering honest thoughts on it from all over the web, and coming to the same conclusions gathering NOW, that the science actually started to show at the beginning.
IT WAS A CHINESE BIOWEAPON, “SOMEHOW” ESCAPED, AND NOW BEING DECEPTIVELY INFORMATION-CONTROLLED BY CHINA, THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, AND AMERICA’S FAKE NEWS COMPLEX. INCLUDING JENN RUBIN, PERSONALLY.
Yes, let’s put it very plainly. She’s enabling the Chinese Communist lies.
Yeah, one might have to use their brain to sort through all that discussion and discern the emerging and evolving consensus, but hey – that’s our WHEAT-CHAFF SORTER. Jenn can’t do it, because she’s a PERSON OF THE LIE. AWAY, CHAFF.
Yeah. It’s complicated. “Know-nothingism.” Sounds a bit like “old scientific skepticism”. I LIKE IT.
Just because you don’t UNDERSTAND IT, Jenn, doesn’t mean it’s not REAL. You may have to do some adapting to the new world.
Now if you want to see WHY Tom Cotton has earned the IRE of the “bio-blood-hoaxing socialist set”, with their Soviet/Maoist biowarfare schemes disguised as “whoops”, just check this out:
This is politically correct pablum, @DrTedros. The greatest enemy is of course the virus, not hurt feelings or fear or stigma. All this kind of idiocy does is make people question the WHO’s priorities. https://t.co/ser1Qqqxf7
Archived as an image, because socialist Twitter is likely to suspend Tom Cotton and delete his content at some point.
Daughn’s reply to this is SPOT ON. In a sane world, WaPo and Jenn Rubin would have to answer for their tiresome and pathetic ass-covering on behalf of China, WHO, and the damned virus itself. Daughn would have a column in a truthful WaPo, and Jenn Rubin would be LEARNING how to make those blueberry muffins from Daughn. And not very well, I suspect.
Now, it may be that Jenn Rubin doesn’t have a TASTE for what China and the rest of world communism are resorting to right now, and is having some difficulty facing the truth of a NEW HOLOCAUST of her own side’s making, but, as Whittaker Chambers could have told Alger Hiss when he decided to come clean….
“That’s too damn bad. It’s time for the TRUTH to be told.”
Kinda funny. Q said these folks wouldn’t be able to walk the streets. Between their own crimes and their own damn virus, it sounds about right. But we’ll wait for a court to tell us the truth. We’re patient, and we believe in rule of law.
Maybe Jenn Rubin will have her own Whittaker Chambers moment.
But she does seem kinda nervous now, doesn’t she?
And now, we get onto the final part of this response. A teaching moment about American Bolshevism, so that people can actually get a flavor for the degree to which American Bolsheviks can and will sell this country out.
It is much easier to convince you of Jenn Rubin’s mild, almost funny sell-out, when you see REAL sell-out like this guy. To go along with “Uranium Girl” Hillary Clinton, we once had “Polonium Boy”.
Let’s talk about GEORGE ABRAMOVICH KOVAL.
When you read about THIS:
You usually think about THESE people.
Sometimes, you think a bit more modern, too.
The person you DON’T think about is George Koval, because you never heard of him.
Koval is MUCH more embarrassing than the Rosenbergs, because he exposes a lot of history you’re not supposed to know about. That history includes a deep schism in Judaism between Zionists and Socialists – one which is either EXACERBATED or SMOOTHED OVER as a kind of historical transistor, creating a massive “handle” on Jews for manipulation by Bolshevism. Moreover, if you follow the Koval story, you will see how LONG AGO the Bolsheviks learned to weaponize fluid borders, human migrations, persecution as cover for spy insertion, and all kinds of nastiness which is NEVER, EVER covered in American leftist public schools or academia.
When the Soviet Democrats finally took complete control of media, education, and even history itself, you stopped hearing about the Rosenbergs, but you NEVER EVEN heard about George Koval.
Koval was a far less “glorious” traitor than the left-romanticized Rosenbergs.
I mean – I have a strong INTEREST in nuclear history, and I didn’t know about this guy until just recently. But this guy was GOOD. Very good. Bad for America, but VERY GOOD for Soviet Russia.
Here is Wikipedia’s quick synopsis of Koval’s significance.
George Abramovich Koval (Russian: Жорж (Георгий) Абра́мович Кова́ль, IPA: [ˈʐorʐ (ɡʲɪˈorɡʲɪj) ɐˈbraməvʲɪtɕ kɐˈvalʲ] (listen), Zhorzh Abramovich Koval, December 25, 1913 – January 31, 2006) was an American who acted as a Soviet intelligence officer for the Soviet atomic bomb project. According to Russian sources, Koval’s infiltration of the Manhattan Project as a GRU (Soviet military intelligence) agent “drastically reduced the amount of time it took for Russia to develop nuclear weapons.”[1][2][3][4][5]
Koval was born to Russian Jewish immigrants in Sioux City, Iowa. As an adult, he traveled with his parents to the Soviet Union to settle in the Jewish Autonomous Region near the Chinese border. Koval was recruited by the Soviet GRU (military intelligence), trained, and assigned the code name DELMAR. He returned to the United States in 1940 and was drafted into the U.S. Army in early 1943. Koval worked at atomic research laboratories and, according to the Russian government, relayed back to the Soviet Union information about the production processes and volumes of the polonium, plutonium, and uranium used in American atomic weaponry, and descriptions of the weapon production sites. In 1948, Koval left on a European vacation but never returned to the United States. In 2007 Russian President Vladimir Putin posthumously awarded Koval the Hero of the Russian Federation decoration for “his courage and heroism while carrying out special missions”.[6]
I urge you to read the ENTIRE Wikipedia article, because it will open your eyes to a reality which American communists – AMERICAN BOLSHEVIKS – have gone to ELABORATE PAINS to hide from us.
You have undoubtedly heard about a nation called Israel. Well, that one wasn’t the problem. It’s Stalinist competitor, in the Soviet Union, on the border with China, where George Koval was INCUBATED and then SENT BACK TO AMERICA – that was the problem.
Oh, the face-palm of Stalin’s attempt to compete with Israel by creating a socialist alternative does NOT end with the rainbow flag. His first pass at “excuseniks” in the late 1930’s – which was again used to send all kinds of deep red diaper into the US and Israel in the 1970’s and 1980’s – was simply to go into the region and crack down on reactionary religious Jewish practice, so that he could provide persecutory cover for all the deeply atheistic and communist spies to “flee”, which he then sent out into America AND British Palestine.
“Excuseniks” was one of the most brilliant and diabolical ideas the Bolsheviks ever came up with.
George Koval didn’t just magically decide to betray America. A LONG, SLOW process of exposure to AMERICAN COMMUNISTS prepared both Koval and his family for his eventual betrayal of this nation.
NOW – here is the big take-home point that is not going to be easy to digest.
This shit did not end in the 1940s.
It CHANGED, but it did not end.
People are going to have to get used to the idea that when McCarthy was “removed from relevance” by the FAKE NEWS of the early 1950s – manipulated into an idiotic collision with the military and then media-marginalized into a dismissal narrative – that was only the beginning.
Bolshevism then began a slow and steady march that was UTTERLY unlike the straw man of “red scare” communism which the Bolshevik elements in media used to falsely ridicule their opponents.
History is not what you thought it was. FAKE HISTORY – the result of decades of FAKE NEWS and FAKE ENTERTAINMENT – was used to take choice, freedom, and knowledge away from you.
Slowly, carefully, but surely.
Start with George Koval and Jenn Rubin. Study them. Then and Now. Compare and Contrast. Note the differences. Note the similarities. Note the purposes.
Just take some time, because you will need it simply to realize how LONG Fake News has been herding this nation toward the Old Russia Ranch, and now the Same Old China Slaughterhouse.
One was a spy. One is a modern propagandist. Both of them, however, pretended to be things that they clearly were NOT, in the interest of advancing socialism.
Trust me – FAKE CONSERVATIVES are going to be one of the very first classes who are not going to be able to walk the streets. And if you want a historical model for how this works, look at Nazi collaborators in post-World War II France. They kinda kept a low profile to avoid getting their heads shaved, in vengeful concentration camp style.
I will be straight-up here – I don’t even wish a good head-shaving on the American Soviet collaborators. Not even jeers on the street, although – well, it couldn’t happen to nicer communists. However, I do hope that the SPOTLIGHT OF TRUTH shines rather strongly on WHAT THEY DID, and maybe there are some – COUGH – retirements.
Remember. And not just THIS.
They tried to pull a COMMUNIST COUP on us.
Using reverse-blame LIES.
And they KNEW they were LIES.
TIME TO WAKE TF UP.
If these coup inciters, enablers, and PLOTTERS can’t actually walk the streets, maybe that’s not such a bad thing.
A Q Tree Reading Club discussion of an article by retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Steven L. Kwast, in the Hillsdale College “Imprimis”, entitled:
The Urgent Need for a United States Space Force
Between my intermittent war dances against “pencilneck” meddling (which of course are crazy, because obviously we’re the only life that a pro-life God would ever create – cough, COUGH, cOuGH) and my equally warlike antiwar sermons, people probably wonder WHAT THE HELL Wolf is thinking about SPACE.
Let’s just say that Wolf believes PEACE, FREEDOM, and INDEPENDENCE are not mutually incompatible. At ALL LEVELS.
So with that in mind, I wanted to bring everybody’s attention to a recent article which I found in my copy of “Imprimis” – one of the absolute best and most cutting-edge “Trumpian” publications out there.
Imprimis is one of the few publications I truly respect these days, and not only because I can just imagine the cultural Marxists snarking on a setting of BROIL about every issue. Imprimis is timely, and it’s intelligent, but most of all, it’s TRUMPIAN – meaning a VSG can read it and do a typical happy “Trump sniff” in agreement, and actually learn something from field specialists. I learn great stuff from Imprimis all the time, and I think you all can, too.
Imprimis is SORELY LACKING in “phony intellectualism” – you know – stuff like “let’s get rid of all cattle and bring back the buffalo herds”. That idea was known as the “buffalo commons” – and – well, you can tell just from the NAME where the idea came from.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there has been some “apologizing” and “mollifying” of said idea to make it sound less and less hare-brained over time, but let’s be honest – it’s perfectly exemplary of what I’m talking about. The promotion of this kind of thinking in academia is a big part of keeping humanity down, IMHO.
Now I LOVE buffalo for a LOT of reasons, but there is a special kind of academic tomfoolery which absolutely infects the left, and – JOY OF JOYS – you will find absolutely none of it – NONE OF IT – in Imprimis.
OK – let’s get even MORE sidetracked here.
I walk into Barnes and Noble, and I literally LAUGH – I mean I probably creep out the staff – when I look at the magazine rack. These people writing for FAKE INTELLECTUALISM like The Atlantic do not have a clue how NUTS they appear to somebody thinking logically in a post-Fake-News world.
I have no idea whether these people are going to slit their wrists over the demise of phony climate change – that socialist globalist hoax to create a fake carbon economy that NOBODY could ever figure out – or whether they will simply try to reverse the scam to global COOLING. If it’s the latter, prepare for them to proclaim that we now have to do the exact same nutty “deterraforming” (Who needs to kill the plants? – ASK THAT QUESTION) for a different reason, which I’m SURE they can groom a few new scientists into supporting, as they did for the “warming alibi”.
You starting to see how this works? SCIENTISTS! SHEEP! “BAAAAH! BAAAAH! BAAAAAAAAH!”
OH, I know – I saw it from the INSIDE.
It was all so simple. I tell you, these commies are GOOD at what they do.
ANYWHO….
This latest Imprimis is (or next to latest – I should have a new monthly copy any day) is great.
Please read this sucker, if you want to follow along with me now.
Now – let’s start on the ground floor.
At any Trump rally or on any Trump rally thread here, one of the BIGGEST crowd pleasers is ALWAYS when Trump says…..
SPACE FORCE!
Oh, wow – THE CROWD GOES WILD!
This is emotional. This is appeal to emotion. Yeah, it’s fun – but we can’t go spending billions or trillions of dollars based on emotions. LOGICAL THINKING FOR THE WIN.
However, it’s actually a complicated business. The truth is, even when we appeal to LOGIC – even when we engage in LOGICAL THINKING – we are still, to a great extent, appealing to emotions.
Generally, these are “cool” emotions – not so much “cold anger” or “cold fear”, but more like “cool hope”. Hope that there is no war. Hope that we can defend our way of life. Love of country, and the things we have valued all our lives. When we are LOGICALLY thinking about how to defend our way of life – and even our PLANET as a whole – we are thinking emotionally down at the base. It’s OK – just recognize it. Logic and emotion can coexist sanely. Especially if they’re GOOD EMOTIONS.
Here – practice a little self-psychology. See this image as “cool hope” and not “cold anger”.
Logical thinking. CALM but LOVING and HOPEFUL, logical thinking.
Now, consider the article.
I agree with all of the things that Lt. Gen. Kwast says in his defense of the idea of the Space Force, and the reason I want you to read this, is to see that there is great logic in what he is saying. If you operate from the conservative thinking that we share here, then almost all of what he’s saying is pretty much a no-brainer, other than figuring out HOW TO DO IT as fast as he thinks (and I think) we need to proceed.
In fact, my thinking is that “the other side” – loosely defined – is ALWAYS trying to slow down our work in space – to control it, to keep it penned in – to keep it subordinate to something which pretty much looks like the Chinese military at this point.
But set ALL of that aside.
I want to ADD some reasons to what Lt. Gen. Kwast is giving us.
I think that – from a “globalist” standpoint – meaning the standpoint of many of the OPPONENTS of President Trump – the most RESPONSIBLE nation needs to lead the way in space. And – quite frankly – and particularly under President Trump and Vice President Pence….
THAT IS US.
Yeah, I know it’s fashionable and vain and all “virtuous” and “virtue-signaling” on the LEFT to be self-deprecating under such circumstances. “Blame America First” and all that. But it’s not smart. BE REAL. China and India aren’t ready, they’re too self-centered, too grossly ambitious, and not going to give a good result for everybody. You KNOW it’s true, globalists. Russia? Well, frankly, they’ll do better following Trump than leading on their own. And you know THAT is true, too. Particularly when people get off Russia’s case, because they have no more sketchy plays, or any need to make them.
Likewise, on the right it’s fashionable – if not de rigueur – to state that OF COURSE America is THE BEST and yada yada yada, which – even if true – tends to become habit more than a carefully checked truth every time the argument is either needed or simply seems obvious. And America CAN BE and WILL BE stupid, on occasion, have no doubt, as Obama just proved to us.
Now I’m not one of these people who buys many arguments about Chinese inferiority and failure to invent, or be capable of invention. I just don’t buy it. I read a lot of scientific work by Chinese scientists and engineers in my day, and I never saw evidence of this AT ALL. Likewise, more recently, in studying how China has fooled the West over and over – NO – you’re not going to convince me that it’s just “Those Smart JOOZ(TM)” or “The Rothschilds(TM)” who are the actual brains behind China’s extraordinarily successful scamming of the West. Yeah, there are a bunch of Euro-Globos and Wall Streeters and Chinese and Muslims and “whatever” who are all “frenemies” and figuring out how to both ally with each other and beat the others at the same time, as they FEED on American wealth and good-natured victimhood. But if anything, I’d say that this alliance of SHARKS argues for equal membership in whatever school they’ve formed.
In any case, the Chinese ain’t stupid. In fact, they’re so smart, they MADE MANY OF US BELIEVE an extraordinary amount of superiority BULLSHIT while they LIFTED OUR WALLET.
OK? Let’s just be clear here.
Well, now that we’ve woken up just a bit – but are also operating under a President who authentically despises the waste of war, maybe NOW really is the time for us to LEAD SANELY ON SPACE, and SET AN EXAMPLE for everybody else.
You will note, I hope, that the American military gets less war-like, and more authentically defense-oriented, all the time. This is a good thing. So frankly, I would say that now is the time to let that kind of thinking SET THE TONE for space for the next century. Not the kind of global “dupe thinking” we’ve had at one extreme, nor the kind of “shoot ’em at Roswell” thinking that undoubtedly sends pencil-necked peaceniks into a tizzy.
RESPONSIBILITY.
Somebody has to lead with it. AND – right now – I think the best candidate to do so is US.
…..without the STINKIEST BAITS that will STAY ON THE HOOK…..
…..And Maybe Some IRREGULAR WARFARE.
NOW – some people may not have the stomach for the fight…..
…..But WOLF MOON ain’t one of ’em! So STAND BACK, as WARPATH WOLF is putting his INFORMATION GUNS behind our great COMMANDER *AND* CHIEF…..
…..Sit back and drink it all in, as WOLF MOON argues for TOTAL WAR NOW against the corruption, making DRAIN THE SWAMP our battle cry to clean out every last one of these LEGAL POSERS who have brought SOVIET “JUSTICE” to AMERICA and imposed it on an unwilling occupation populace.
Yes, my friends. Now. RIGHT NOW is the TIME….
To chase these corrupt, criminal, socialist Democrat BERNIE BROS and BERNIE SISTERS completely OUT OF DOJ!!!
OK. Let’s take this a bit slower, for those who don’t understand why NOW is the time to lay waste to the communists and traitors embedded in DOJ.
In the language of fishing, they have TAKEN THE BAIT.
Before I explain what I BELIEVE we need to do next, you have to understand what kind of BOTTOM FEEDERS we are dealing with.
These people are LAYERS OF TRAPS – wicked DIRTY COPS like James Comey and Bob Mueller – BAD PROSECUTORS like Andrew Weissmann – CORRUPT JUDGES like Amy Berman and Tanya Chutkan.
They have been infiltrating DOJ and the Judicial branch for a LONG TIME, often under their favorite cover – as a sympathetic, pliable, pobricito or pobrecita member of a liberal protected class – you know – such as Janet Reno, who wouldn’t hurt a fly…..
…..who ushered in Eric Holder – the communist radical who was most responsible for compromising DOJ during the Clinton administration…..
These people LOOK for opportunities to SET PEOPLE UP and then SILENCE them, CONTROL them, or GET RID OF THEM.
I have been dealing with these people for a LONG time. If you want to BEAT them, you have to BLOW UP THEIR TRAPS. You have to make the entrapment BACKFIRE spectacularly.
The way FISH do this to HUMANS is by nibbling the bait but not actually taking it. Fishing is basically a contest between WARY fish who try to CON humans into giving them food, and HUMANS trying to CON fish into taking an easy meal that turns the FISH into THEIR MEAL.
But if the fish REALLY want to get some JUSTICE, they…..
take the bait
pull the fisherman into the water
drag the rod and reel off into the depths
tie the fishing line hopelessly in the underwater brush
spit out the hook
break water in a huge splash, showing everybody WHO’S THE FUCKIN’ BOSS
And when BOTH SIDES are HUMANS, it becomes more evenly matched, and you can have REAL fishing for the fisherman, as the TRUMP FISH catches the OBAMA-HOLDER-LYNCH DOJ FISHERMAN fishing illegally and out of season, and SENDS THEM ALL TO JAIL.
Yes, you thought fishing was simple, but it’s actually a complicated business.
Something that is very important here is not to react to ALINSKY FEARS.
Yeah, THAT Alinsky.
Alinsky reminded his fellow COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS that “fear of the thing is greater than the thing”, and thus that they should at all times instill FEAR in the other side, even when “they don’t have a damn thing”.
Sound familiar?
Alinsky fear-mongering works really well on people who can best be described as “concernies“. However, it DON’T WORK ON DA WOOF. And I want it to NOT WORK ON YOU, TOO.
One really has to learn to ignore – at an emotional level – absolutely ALL fear-casting by Communist Democrats. Take it all in logically, evaluate it logically, and ACT logically, but…..
IGNORE ALINSKY FEARS.
Trust me – I’ll take an honest pro-life lava monster that just wants to lay eggs in peace over Communist Democrat baby-killing LIARS any day of the week – PAST or FUTURE.
BUT HARK – let us get back to the question of “WHY NOW?”.
Well, now I have to remind you of my last post, in which I explained how we have these Communist Democrats OVER A BARREL on *THEIR* RUSSIAN COLLUSION, thanks to Jussie K. Liu.
It is now very important to RECONFIGURE YOUR THINKING about what is going on in Washington. They are going to try to distract you with LOOK, SQUIRREL….. when the thing you should really be looking at is the LIU-K, WOLFE! President Trump, in firing (in two brilliant steps) the CORRUPT Jessie K. Liu, has just …
This prior post was based on the great work of SUNDANCE at THE LAST REFUGE, who spotted the most significant Jussie Liu cover-up of them all – the JAMES WOLFE LEAK.
Yeah, she is guilty of a LOT – the Awan Brothers cover-up, the many Stone injustices, and much, much more, but the Wolfe leak and where that leads is a MINEFIELD for Communist Democrats, because it reverses the bogus “first attempted impeachment” charge of “Russian collusion” and – OMG – it makes it REAL.
Only it’s THE DAMN DEMOCRATS who did it!
Notice that I said – more or less – that “Roger Stone is the distraction”, and “Mark Warner’s collusion with Putin’s errand-boy Dirtypasta to set up Trump is what they are distracting from”.
I repeat more slowly.
COLLUSION.
OF DEMOCRATS.
WITH RUSSIANS.
TO SET UP TRUMP.
And this would include the Jussie Liu cover-up of – O. M.G. – the real mission of one Maria Butina from some place called Russia.
Seems I talked about this a while back. WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW.
One of THE BEST windows into Russia’s REAL position on the 2016 election is Vladimir Putin’s “NRA spy”, Maria Butina. Yeah, I will admit that I think this gal is smoking hot, in a Euro-floozy, Moscow-to-Washington-to-Tennessee, mail-order mama, “I fell in love at a gun show” way. But that’s not the only reason I love …
I urge you to read the above post. GOOD GRIEF was I “on target”. I even called out Jussie Liu, and I had completely forgotten about it! (Of course, I didn’t call her “Jussie” back then, because Kamala Harris and Corey Booker hadn’t teamed up with Jussie “Red Diaper” Smollett at that point.) Heck – I even forgot about the Russian asset who tried to work on me after Sandy Hook! [Note that I did NOT mention FACEBOOK’S separate role in the Sandy Hook plot in this article – that’s an interesting story, too. I’ll save THAT for later.]
Back to the “Stone deflection”.
I’m not saying that we can’t beat the Communist Democrats to an absolute PULP over Roger Stone.
We CAN, and we SHOULD.
But we must not forget the REALLY BIG CRIMES – which the Communist Democrats are desperately trying to distract us from.
The reason you can tell they absolutely want to hide the “Wolfe Leake”, is (1) Democrats in the House and Senate ONLY want to talk about Roger Stone, and (2) nobody will even breathe a word of response to the Wolfe Leak cover-up and Warner collusion related to it. It’s TOO EXPLOSIVE. The TALKING POINTS don’t even exist.
Maybe PUTIN and XI don’t have them ready yet. I don’t know – ASK JUSSIE LIU. Maybe SHE knows.
And remember – Dianne “Chi-Fi” Feinstein is only a breath away from that same corrupt intelligence committee (the SSCI) on which she served previously, all the while with a Chinese spy as her OFFICE MANAGER.
As Wheatie always reminds us…..
WHATEVER THE DAMN DEMS DID WITH RUSSIA, WHAT THE DAMN DEMS DID WITH CHINA WAS A THOUSAND TIMES WORSE.
I have a rule of thumb for FINDING THE FISH now. Including the LARGEMOUTH ASS.
All we have to do is look at all the things that little Jussie Liu covered up, side-tracked, sabotaged, or derailed, to find what it is we need to bring down the Communist Democrat criminal axis in DOJ.
So – we could WAIT for the Democrats to SPIT OUT THE HOOK…..
NAH. I don’t think so.
Oh, do they want impeachment again?
SET THE DAMN HOOK!!!
IMPEACHMENT AHOY!!!
And while we’re at it, SET THE ROD, TOO!!!
W
PS – I think Schumer is worried.
"Does anyone think it's out of the question that Pres. Trump might order the FBI to investigate Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or anybody else?" Sen. Chuck Schumer asks.
We still don’t have a firm handle on this virus. The uncertainty leads to fear in a general population. Within this thread, we will share everything we know, culled from multiple sources. Thank you to all who contribute.
Bullet point items:
Cruise Ship docked and quarantined in Japan Diamond Princess, docked off Yokohama: now has 454 infected persons. Americans evacuate from the ship are testing positive, now quarantined at a military base in Texas.
Taxi Cab drivers and physicians reported the problem in Wuhan as early as December 8th-9th.
Official Death toll is 1,775 (Updated 8:00am Eastern, February 13, 2020) (could be thousands more)
In China, 70,553 confirmed cases (could be thousands to millions) with over 71,810 confirmed worldwide (Updated 8:00am Eastern, February 17, 2020)
Hardest hit is Hubei province, healthcare system is overloaded, but we’re seeing death tolls reported from Jilin, to Sichuan, to Guangdong to Chongqing – it’s all over China.
More contagious than Seasonal Flu, Spanish Flu, or SARS.
WHO team was allowed into China February 9th. USA has been offering assistance to China since January 6th.
USA delivered 100 million dollars of AID to China to battle the virus.
Approximately 80% of China’s export economy is shut down.
The Chinese central bank plans to pump $22 billion into the economy amid reports that the coronavirus or COVD19 will lower the expected growth of China’s economy from 2.1% to 1.2%. Farmers are having problems getting trucks to take their food supplies into towns for deliver…… system shutdown.
Under pressure from leadership, the Apple factory reopened…. but only 10% of the workforce showed up for duty. Other province governors have barred companies from reopening.
China agreed to “half” their tariffs on US goods, looking for economic relief from the USA
Economic impact on China will be severe
Japan’s economy contracted 1.6% as they face Coronavirus.
South Korea shut down their Hyundai plant due to lack of parts manufactured in China.
Statistics and information coming out of China are highly questionable.
A map of Chinese provinces will help us get oriented within the country.
War Room Pandemic is a weekday show, done by Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassan. They were on the story before anyone else and their guests are helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBxESl_m1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLS1uKAecKU
Exceptionally valuable information is found in Pandemic Episode 15. Rosemary Gibson, Senior Advisor to the Hastings Center, took three years to investigate the state of Americas pharmaceuticals, culminating in the book “China RX”. Did you know the last aspirin factory in the USA closed down in 2004? Did you know that the USA can no longer MAKE Vitamin C? Did you know tainted heparin from China cause many deaths of American citizens….. it was Made in China. And did you know that our politicians have known about the problem/national security/health security for decades?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS7c_vqU4M4
Also within this program is an interview with Mike Bowen, Senior VP and owner of Prestige Ameritech, the last manufacturer of N-95 Medical Grade Masks in the USA. It’s an interview which will make you scream in frustration, and cry because of the ineptness of our bureaucrats and trade policies……. The facility used to supply about 79% of the market in the USA until purchased by Kimberly Clark….. shut down and shipped overseas, losing thousands of jobs and endangering Americans. It’s a must watch.
Gail Combs, fellow Treeper, is one of our best researchers. I believe she is a physicist. Wish I could give you her whole bio, yet this is the internet.… Gail has agreed to compile valuable info for us all, found below. Thank you, Gail! And thank you to BakoCarl for more resource links!
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE CHINESE CORONA VIRUS.
1. China does not have enough tests kits to document all suspected cases. The test can easily show a negative for people with the disease. Politically, China has good reason to lie. Also since it is a deep lung infection a cheek or throat swap can give a false positive. Coughed up sputum gives 11% more positives.
2. The virus attaches to ACE2 expressers deep in the lungs. Men have 4 times as many ACE2 expressers as women and are 3 times as likely to get it. Asians have 5 times as many as Africans/Europeans.
In early stats, (Jan2 – 41 people) less than half had underlying diseases BUT it does affect those with chronic inflammatory diseases including diabetes, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease (probably asthma too.)
3. Those without symptoms or with very mild symptoms can spread it. It can be spread via coughs, contact surfaces and with feces. Diarrhea is one of the possible symptoms. (Not good for San Fran-feces.)
Surface Survival of the Virus https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQCd7TEUUAAOxw_.jpg
4. We do not know how many without symptoms may have come over on early flights. Running a temperature many not appear immediately after contact with the virus. ”mean incubation period to be 6.4 (5.6 – 7.7, 95% CI) days, ranging from 2.1 to 11.1 days” https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.27.20018986v2
Revised: 6.4 –> 5.2 days. (~5 to 7 days) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.02.20020016v1
”….time in hospital prior to death 10+ days I think for most of them…. …I have seen several references that said about 25% of confirmed cases get serious complications and something like 15% end up in ICU.” – Larry L.
76% of the confirmed 2019-nCov cases from 1 hospital in Wuhan required oxygen therapy.
5. According to MedCram US CDC/hospitals are using a SWAB (throat?) and 11 out of 178 tested positive. The problem is a throat or cheek swab while simpler to obtain, give false negatives while sputum samples are more reliable. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4187748/ https://www.who.int/csr/disease/coronavirus_infections/LaboratoryTestingNovelCoronavirus_21Dec12.pdf
6. The first victim here in the USA required a long hospital stay of at least 2 weeks. He was still coughing after two weeks and therefore probably still infectious.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP2vCFiWsAAO_Rp.jpg
7. People the most at risk are 50 years and over with pre-existing chronic inflammatory diseases. (Patriot Nurse)
Mortality by age comparison between MERS, SARS and 2019-nCoV https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPezgqvXkAExryP.jpg
TAIPEI (Taiwan News) summed it up this way:
…the Wuhan coronavirus has three features:
♦️ it is an RNA virus that mutates easily, ♦️ it is more contagious than SARS, ♦️ and it can spread from an asymptomatic person.
This means that even someone who has recovered from the virus can transmit it, making it more difficult to curb its spread.
As a result, Hsieh said it is possible that the virus could stay dormant in the body after recovery and come back to haunt the host in winter or when their immune system is weakened…. *
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3869848
CONCLUSION The virus is probably ‘free’ here in the USA. I t is more severe for men, especially older men and older people with chronic inflammatory disease. It requires a long hospital stay. Children may show little sign of the disease.
THEREFORE the goal is to prevent rapid spread of the disease especially to those over 50 so the hospitals are not overwhelmed. IF the system is overwhelmed the elderly WILL NOT GET CARE!
triage 1a: the sorting of and allocation of treatment to patients and especially battle and disaster victims according to a system of priorities designed to maximize the number of survivors https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/triage
PREVENTION ~ MINIMIZING CONTACT
If you are older stay away from your grand kids! Larry L. suggested a 3 – 6 foot distance from other people, a pathologist suggests 6 to 9 feet.
MASKS ”There is a minimum effective infectious dose. Greater doses increases the likelihood of infection. This also affects the incubation period. The lower the exposure, the longer the time needed for the infection to get going internally; and with that, the longer it will be before that person becomes infections and/or shows symptoms. Recall that most symptoms are due to activation of the immune system, and not from the infection itself.” — cdquarles
For the painter/farmer masks: (N95 or N100) 3m has p100 filters with no sorbents, such as #2091, and then I saw ‘improved’ version #2291 I think. The 2091 are bright fuscia. I think I’ve seen people ambulating near Stanford hospital sporting these as facial fashion. Much easier to breath, and very comfortable with the 7502 ‘faceplate’. I had no sense of ‘rebreathing’ or claustro.
Many people wonder what they can do to NOT get the virus. If we think of Coronavirus like a “super-flu”, it makes sense to follow good general hygiene principles, eat well, and get plenty of rest. Here are some extra hints from Gail.
NUTRITION TO OPTIMIZE IMMUNE SYSTEM High dose Vit C for anti viral activity.
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 30, 2020 recomends, VERY HIGH levels of Vitamin C.
Please read the whole article. At the bottom are references and recommended reading.
In summary:
What dosage? Vitamin C fights all types of viruses. Although the dose should truly be high, even a low supplemental amount of vitamin C saves lives. This is very important for those with low incomes and few treatment options. For example, in one well-controlled, randomized study, just 200 mg/day vitamin C given to the elderly resulted in improvement in respiratory symptoms in the most severely ill, hospitalized patients. And there were 80% fewer deaths in the vitamin C group. [7] …The sicker a person was, the more ascorbic acid they would tolerate orally without it causing diarrhea. In a person with an otherwise normal GI tract when they were well, would tolerate 5 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid orally in divided doses without diarrhea….. But to best build up our immune systems, we need to employ large, orthomolecular doses of several vital nutrients. The physicians on the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service review board specifically recommend at least 3,000 milligrams (or more) of vitamin C daily, in divided doses. Vitamin C empowers the immune system and can directly denature many viruses. It can be taken as ascorbic acid (which is sour like vinegar), either in capsules or as crystals dissolved in water or juice. It can also be taken as sodium ascorbate, which is non-acidic. To be most effective, it should be taken to bowel tolerance. This means taking high doses several (or many) times each day. See the references below for more information….
Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form)…..
Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000)…..
Zinc is a powerful antioxidant and is essential for many biochemical pathways. It has been shown to be effective in helping the body fight infections. [20,21] A recommended dose is 20-40 mg/day for adults….
Selenium:100 mcg (micrograms) daily…..
B-complex vitamins and vitamin A: A multivitamin tablet with each meal will supply these conveniently and economically….. Nutritional supplements are not just a good idea. For fighting viruses, they are absolutely essential
From a fellow Q-Treeper (sorry I did not keep the Id) I have added the studies verifying the claims.
A VERY over-simplified version of how viruses work, immune boosting, and what you can do NOW. This is esp helpful for at risk age groups, but good for everyone.
Those spikes you see on virus pics allow it to puncture your cell wall and use the inside of your cell for food. Immune boosters help strengthen your cell wall, among other things.
ELDERBERRY SYRUP – (Sambucus n.) Strengthens your cell walls, and is shown to bind to flu viruses, preventing them from invading cells and replicating.
ASTRAGALUS – Helps increase the bodies production of interferon, and, reduces water retention.
ECHINACEA p. – Provides inulin, which improves white cells ability to fight in part by increasing properdin, increases and activates white cells, signals the body to release interferon. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4058675/
VITAMIN C – Helps the red blood cells transport oxygen thru the body. Your lymphatic system runs along (mostly) the same paths that your blood vessels use. However, your lymph system doesn’t have a “pump” the way your blood vessels have your heart to move things along. Your lymphatic system helps with your blood system to drain out the debris from your dead cell walls, dead virus cell, and white cells, etc. Keeping your lymphatic system clear of debris is why you are told to drink lots of fluids when you get sick. That junk needs to be urinated out, to keep the lanes clear for more white cells to attack the virus. There are also simple excercises that “pump” your lymphatics. These are all online. If you catch a virus, there are more things to add that may help.
So, if you get sick: INCREASE YOUR IMMUNE BOOSTERS!!! like, every couple hours or so. Drink LOT of fluids
NETTLES – Anti-histamine, anti-inflammatory, and diuretic. Is helpful with drying up runny noses, too!
…Phenolic compounds could be defined as biologically active and herbal and have positive effects on health. The scientific researches are increased about the positive effect of phenolic compounds into coronary heart disease and high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, inflammative, viral and parasitic disease, psychotic disorders…
For fever, Tylenol or Motrin. Some people don’t do fever control, as the higher temperatures help kill the virus, but I have seen seizures happen from this, so I think fever control is a good thing. Also, if your body is fight aches and fever, those are cells which can be helping fight the virus instead. Again, very over-simplified, but some steps you can be taking NOW, and some herbs you can look into to see what may work for you and yours.
I recommend looking for the scientific studies (pro and con) that actually support the claims of any health remedy not prescribed by a doctor as I have done above.
DISCLAIMER: I am a chemist and not a doctor. This is just a compilation from comments at both sites that may be of interest to readers. Think for your self!
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS THREAD IS NOW LISTED AS A KEY POST IN THE SIDEBAR
THE LATEST CORONA VIRUS POST WILL ALWAYS BE LISTED THERE -WOLF
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Latest Update 1:00am Eastern, February 9, 2020.
We have a leak out of Taiwan News Service (The AP of Taiwan – February 1st, 2020. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594 ) via Tencent which has been very reliable, reporting 154,023 infected and 24K dead. ( Start at 4:30 in video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWIKtjAVDRg ) We’re investigating. Lancet Media out of UK (highly reliable for peer reviewed studies and Dr. Gabriel Yung, the virus hunter, from Univ of Hong Kong, have both estimated approx. 150-155K infected and 20-25K dead at approx 3:30 in video) Therefore, the numbers coming from Taiwan News Service, Dr. Yung, and Lancet, are almost identical. Speculation is that Taiwan News is keeping 2 sets of books, an official tally and unofficial one. This is the 4th time Taiwan News has released specific numbers much larger than official count.
Officially, total number of cases exceeds 37,198+cases worldwide, updated at 7:00pm Eastern Feb 5th.
Officially, 811 Dead in dead, hardest-hit is Hubei province, 1:00am Eastern Feb 9th.
Announced by Sec of Health and Human Services, Alex Azar, he approved Feb 4th a diagnostic, and through FDA which will be shipped to 170 labs to speed diagnosis (done within a month of receiving gene sequencing from China). Seeing about a 2% mortality rate according to Chinese REPORTED data. Stresses importance of getting OUR people from CDC (epidemiologists) into China to get a real gauge on how many are infected. The USA has been requesting entrance to HELP and see for ourselves since January 6th!
Partnering with Regeneron on Coronaviris Drug Development (per Alex Azar)
May take a year for a vaccine (per Alex Azar)
12 in the USA (human to human contact, mostly spouses)
China looking for financial relief? About 10:00pm on February 5, 2020, Laura Ingraham announced China would “half” their tariffs on 75 Billion worth of US imported goods as they sought further negotiation with the White House.
Exceeds death toll from the 2002-03 Sars outbreak (349 dead)
Time has come for another update thread on the Coronavirus. We have a National Emergency declared by Sec. Alex Azar. Dr. Robert Redfield is the Director of CDC. Across media, surprisingly non-political, the WH team is being lauded as serious. Within the USA, 11+ people infected, 191 under investigation. Dr. Anthony Falchi, Director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. Steve Began is Deputy Sec of State. Sec. of Homeland Security, Ken Cuccinelli, Dept of Transportation, among others, are all involved. It’s an “all hands on deck approach”.
We started covering the Coronavirus on January 25th, 2020. This is our third update. SEVERAL QTreepers have backgrounds in this field, or similar fields, and are quite comfortable in the vernacular. Learn from them. Their breadth of knowledge is amazing.
NOTE: Almost all health professionals are working on a 14 day maximum incubation period. Yet, in cooler weather, SARS virus could last on surfaces for up to 28 days. Probably why we don’t get flu so often in the summer. Be careful out there.
The map might help us get oriented within China.
Flights to and from China have shut down. Borders to Hong Kong, Russia, DPRK, Tibet, have all closed as a precaution. The Forbidden City, Shanghai Disneyland, The Great Wall, tourist attractions are all shut down. American companies in Chin have shuttered. Starbuck’s, McDonald’s locations are closed. Between 50-90 million people are designated as “quarantined”. Within China, as of this date 811 are dead, approx 37K+ infected, and approx 80-90 THOUSAND people are being “observed”. Half the factories in China have extended “golden week” and will not go back to work. Over 80% of China’s export production has been shut down. As far as Beijing, a city of 35 million people, the streets are noticeably empty.
Different countries are responding in various ways. Italy had 6000 people stuck on a cruise ship because they learned of one passenger from Wuhan.
Hat tip to ItsWoot, this might be a great source to check: This is the website for the military version of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) Nothing here yet, or any other recent updates, on Coronavirus. Maybe worth checking on for research insights that they may come up with independent of the CDC. https://www.usamriid.army.mil/
Follow the Hashtag #Coronavirus on Twitter but be leery of information, even from blue-checked-marked accounts. Remember, a journalist with a degree in English doesn’t know squat about infectious diseases. We truly do NOT want to disseminate bad information and unnecessarily scare the public.
The source of https://pandemic.warroom.org/ is excellent for updates. Steve Bannon, Jason Miller (Trump Camp Comms Director for Transition), and Raheem Kassan (Breitbart editor in London) started a “War Room” broadcast for Impeachment. About a week ago, they started a separate War Room for the Pandemic, one of the first to jump on the issue. This source gathers info from all over media, other sources, and has clips from a daily update.
The War Room folks have been following the Pandemic, analyzing impact on health and economy for over a week. Please bookmark and follow for more info. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZgoa-viEQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBxESl_m1M
This is a DAILY UPDATE
Within this and other episodes, an examination of how this problem reorients the just-in-time supply chain. All multi-nationals are re-examining their biz models asap. Everything will change.
Almost 2/3 of Chinese Economy is shut down.
Apple announcing delays in delivery of IPhones
Interview with Dr. Stephen Hatfield, Author of 3 Seconds Until Midnight, Professor at George Washington Univ., BioDefense Senior Researcher at the Army’s Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases —– perhaps the best facility in the world to address this problem.
Multiple experts funnel in and out of this program.
Try to buy a facemask on Amazon
97% of our vaccines are made in China.
Story about the cab driver and opthamologist in Wuhan who were talking on December 8th-9th, about a Sars type virus in Wuhan and were arrested for spreading false rumors. On Friday, seven weeks later, they were released with a FULL apology from what is the Supreme Court of China (Let’s check the last time the High Court of China issued an apology – shall we?)
Trade delegation from China to sign trade deal had 20-25 people in it……. they didn’t say a word. (Just like the Japanese in WW2 before Pearl Harbor.) Apparently, we KNEW about the problem and since Jan 6th-9th have been offering USA assistance.
Last clause in Phase One trade agreement contains exception for Acts of God, Emergency, etc. Fear that China purchasing from USA could be delayed or cancelled. Larry Kudlow confirms “delay” in a Fox Biz interview on Feb 4, 2020.
USA has formally and informally offered assistance to China on MULTIPLE occasions beginning on January 6th, 2020. USA is concerned about getting accurate stats and info for incubation period, mortality rate, number of dead, ill, etc., and concerned we are not getting accuracy in reporting from CCP. NOW, the Chinese have agreed to allow in a team from the WHO, to include American physicians. Note: several members of the WHO were recently replaced by those who favor China.
The following study is leaking out of India and causing serious alarm. It’s why our stock market was down 600 points last Friday. STUDY is NOT confirmed as yet and has been removed, but drifting all over the internet. We thought it was a good idea to address the rumor and NOT avoid it. Those who are seriously involved on this issue are crawling all over these findings. Why? Because of the alleged results. India study claims there is another RNA strand in the virus….. which would not naturally occur, implying it is a bioweapon or manufactured by man. People flipped out over this rumor and the market sold off in a big way. Again, NOT confirmed and serious questions about peer review for this study – study has been REMOVED which only raises more questions.
Article title: Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”, Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon Profile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden Fri, 01/31/2020 – 17:35
An excerpt from the conclusion of the article:
…Until he realized something disturbing. Oh my god. Indian scientists have just found HIV (AIDS) virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov virus that are not found in any other coronavirus. They hint at the possibility that this Chinese virus was designed [“not fortuitous’]. Scary if true. https://t.co/h6xPX1gYvj pic.twitter.com/kCpd1I00uE
— Anand Ranganathan (@ARanganathan72) January 31, 2020 “Scary”… but relax, it’s just another ridiculous “conspiracy.”
The information is pouring out from all source at this point.
The letters and Diaries of our grandparents provide useful advice as to how they survived the Spanish Flu of 1918. Look through our past posts for full details, and great stories. General advice is to take off shoes, clothes, at the back door and shower immediately when entering the home. Clothes washed in hottest water possible, cleaning surfaces and switch-plates, no rubbing of eyes, and a great deal of hand-washing.
HERE IT IS, H/T TO DEP AND CONCERNED VIRGINIAN: Advice on how to get thru the Spanish Flu from 1918:
Concerned Virginian posted this on Thursday, Jan. 30’s Open Thread. I’m just going to copy the instructions part of the post:
From a posting by a person who received an email from an MD friend — this MD is ALREADY doing these: N-100 masks and disposable gloves for ALL outside interactions beginning 7 February (already doing this in-clinic); Replace ALL home air filters / AC and heatpump filters every 2 weeks until the danger passes; Disinfect ALL doorknobs / railings / handles etc. with disinfectant wipes (hospital-grade); HOTTEST WATER possible / tolerable for laundry / dishwasher / showering; Have a “drop room” area in the home where ALL clothes are removed upon returning home. These clothes go directly into the washing machine. SHOES are sprayed inside and out with Lysol. Proceed to take a hot shower and put on clean clothes. This MD’s grandfather (also an MD) followed a similar routine during the 1918-1920 Great Spanish Flu pandemic. Apparently they have the grandmother’s diary from that time which detailed how they survived.
From other comments: If the Wuhan Coronavirus does indeed follow the various projections of infection / death rate, it will be imperative for people to be able to shelter in place for an extended time, with only medical personnel and (probably limited) police-fire-EMS services available to work outside the home. It will be imperative for people to have enough supplies, including prescription drugs, at home..
This thread retained for reference and historical data.
Thank you – and thank you, Daughn, for these threads!
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Our Coronavirus thread has grown substantially. Please consider this the update thread. This thread will run all week long (unless something dire happens and we need another one but not likely).
None of us want to spread bad information, and we don’t want to OVERreact and spread hysteria. The problem with this issue is, that as fast as the disease is spreading, so is the bad information. Thus, this thread. Perhaps we can sort fact from fiction within this forum.
Most of the reporting refers to various provinces of China (like our states). This map might be helpful as a reference.
Hat tip to Itswoot for the following link and idea:
This is the website for the military version of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) Nothing here yet, or any other recent updates, on Coronavirus. Maybe worth checking on for research insights that they may come up with independent of the CDC.https://www.usamriid.army.mil/
The details of the Coronavirus are sketchy and unreliable, which is why I avoided posting a thread. None of us want to spread bad information, and we don’t want to OVERreact and spread hysteria. The problem with this issue is, that as fast as the disease is spreading, so is the bad information. Thus, this thread. Perhaps we can sort fact from fiction within this forum.
Most of the reporting refers to various provinces of China (like our states). This map might be helpful as a reference.
The South China Morning Post is an outlet many of us follow. They are tracking the story closely. I counted a total of 25 stories about Coronavirus on their main page this morning. Here is their link: https://www.scmp.com/news/china
We know the US Senate has been briefed on the virus. Here is the President’s latest tweet:
China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!
Dr Eric Feigl-Ding, Harvard PhD in Epidemiology, and youngest dual PhD from Harvard SPH, has a thread which explains the contagen and the virality of spread, which scientists characerize as an RO factor. What is the typical R0 attack rate for the seasonal flu in most years? It’s around an R0=1.28. The 2009 flu pandemic? R0=1.48. The 1918 Spanish Flu? 1.80. This new #WuhanCoronavirus reproductive value again? R0=3.8 Reference for the typical spread rate of seasonal flu is found here: https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2334-14-480 and the model for the Coronavirus is found here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1 Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding is alarmed by the high rate of spread for this virus.
PLEASE understand, the above thread is alarming………..!!!!!!! Kyle Bass, the hedge fund guy who has specialized in China for decades responds to the info posted by Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (above) as follows:
Not good when coming from a respected public health scientist. We just have to hope the mortality rate hovers around 3%. That’s assuming Chinese authorities in Wuhan are accurately reporting deaths (fat chance). #CoronavirusOutbreak#coronaviruschinahttps://t.co/Cz8e9yxwCt
If we think of the Coronavirus as a super version of a common cold, then we should make sure to wash hands, doorknobs, switchplates, cover mouth and nose when sneezing, ……. and don’t eat partially cooked bat soup from China. NOTE: The CDC in the USA has changed their position and is specifically NOT confirming the source of the disease as the Wet Animal Market in Wuhan. The CDC has yet to determine the source of this disease.
Within this thread, please dump your comments and theories, videos and links. Perhaps together, we can all get closer to the truth.
