Understanding the Coming Threats to Innocent Americans from DOJ and FBI


ABOVE TL;DR – DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE


TL;DR – We are headed back to the Hillary Waco days, only it’s a much wider target zone of victims. It is starting out with simple Gestapo tactics, but it will likely progress to violence unless DOJ and FBI are reined in. Right now, NOT TALKING TO THE POLICE is how to fight the FBI and DOJ.


Less TL;DR – The testimony of an FBI whistleblower is enough to see that FBI is preparing to go after ANYBODY who was near the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021. That is TENS OF THOUSANDS of people who I regard as innocent Americans. It is possible that DOJ and FBI will harass and intimidate ANY MAGA Americans who were in Washington, DC that day, and will arrest ANYBODY and EVERYBODY who marched to the Capitol Building.

This means arrest for multiple posters on this site, and harassment for many others. Indeed, it appears that FBI is preparing to match Joe Biden’s “Dark Brandon” rhetoric of “Trump and his supporters must be eliminated like Hitler and the Nazis.”

We must be prepared to meet this challenge, each in our own way, but all together.

Running is not an option. How you stand and fight is your choice. I choose to support ALL patriots, even those who choose differently from me.

For most of us, we are now in a Bonhoeffer moment. For others, and especially in the future, unless DOJ and FBI are stopped, we will be in a Crazy Horse moment. The decision is yours. If you are innocent, and the FBI comes after you, I will not criticize your choice in resistance.

Personally, I think that right now, SILENCE is how to fight them, when they come for you. (SEE BELOW, under PPS.)

Once again, “progressives” know who they want to destroy. And it is YOU.


Deplorable Patriot alerted us to the key tweet about the key article. This is one of many FBI whistleblowers, but he has some of the most critical information yet.

Many of you who are READING THIS, are now potentially targets of FBI suspicion, harassment, and even ARREST. It’s time to PREPARE, in my opinion. Most of this is MENTAL preparation. But first, let me show you evidence that things are that bad.

LINK: https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/fbi-hero-paying-the-price-for-exposing-unjust-persecution-of-conservative-americans/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/kTGYb

This is absolutely essential reading, but just to make sure that you see the part that is going to be literally LIFE OR DEATH for millions of patriotic Americans, both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the FBI, I am going to include some of it here.

That does NOT mean you should not read the whole thing – you had better, in my opinion. But I need to make sure you see the MOST important information.

Please read all of this, ESPECIALLY the specific allegations at the end of the citation.

If you are “low vision”, please use THIS LINK instead, and concentrate on the part reading “Among Friend’s Allegations”.



We need to look at these allegations in detail, and interpret what they mean, in terms of both understanding communist strategy ABOVE the FBI, and our response.

Remember – this is not just an attack on American citizens – this is an attack on the FBI. Once this happens, the FBI will no longer be regarded as even remotely honorable by roughly half of America – and THAT is part of the PLAN, in my opinion.

FBI has been lured to its destruction.


  • The Washington, DC, field office is “manipulating” FBI case management protocol and farming out J6 cases to field offices across the country to create the false impression that right-wing domestic violence is a widespread national problem that goes far beyond the “black swan” event of Jan. 6, 2021.
    • WOLF: This is a rather cynical ploy. FIB management has basically rebranded “national outrage at an obviously stolen Presidential election” as a DIFFERENT widespread national problem, “domestic violent extremism“. This agent Friend clearly has his head screwed on straight, and has not fallen for the brainwashing in Washington.
    • More than that, this is obviously how the crooked Washington Field Office and national directorate plans to indoctrinate agents all across the US, to turn them against their local citizenry. It’s a very SMART move, straight out of Holder and Obama. This is a communist division tactic, which further isolates the FBI. CUNNING.
  • As a result, he [Friend] was listed as lead agent in cases he had not investigated and which his supervisor had not signed off on, in violation of FBI policy.
    • WOLF: Again, this is just typical slow burn of evil in corrupting better people, and making them insensitive to the law. This LITERALLY cuts into the “I” of “Integrity” in a very shocking way.
    • I will go further than Friend here. The idea that anybody goes along with this kind of FALSIFICATION of records is a travesty. People in BUSINESS don’t allow this stuff, where WRONG PEOPLE are listed as having responsibility when they don’t actually have it. This is LITERALLY “cooking the books”.
    • I just smell the corrupting influence of Eric Holder here. This is from DOJ, and very likely at the behest of one or more of Obama’s “Furies”. All the DNC bots are pressuring DOJ and FBI to “do something” about Trump.
  •  FBI domestic terrorism cases are being opened on innocent American citizens who were nowhere near the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, based on anonymous tips to an FBI hotline or from Facebook spying on their messages. These tips are turned into investigative tools called “guardians,” after the FBI software that collates them.
    • WOLF: This is very serious, but not unexpected. In the desperation to “get more people”, FBI management is ignoring simple aspects of good investigation.
    • The J6 operation (“Fedsurrection”, “Buffalo Jump”) did not yield the desired results, which would have enabled all of Trump’s supporters (a HUGE chunk of this nation, and most “patriots”) to be silenced and “put on the run” using the entirety of the national security apparatus and the corporate media chorus. That simply did not happen, when patriots who went inside the Capitol building IGNORED CNN-Antifa-DeepState traitor John Sullivan’s calls to “burn it down”.
    • Realistically, only people who engaged in actual violence against police or broke into the Capitol building are morally at fault. People who were waved into the Capitol building – I’m sorry – prosecuting them is just sad justice at best. Same with “trespassing” against people on the outside. WE HAD A REGISTERED, PERMITTED RALLY AT THE CAPITOL BUILDING. The fact that the rally area was on the WRONG SIDE of the Capitol, was TOO SMALL, and was not properly marked or instructed to the crowd, was bad enough, and in my mind, part of the plot (Pelosi clearly had a role, as did McConnell). But then, when the crowd was either let into the building, or TOLD TO GO TO THE WEST WALL TO YELL by the “authorities”, and then FIRED UPON – seriously. Going after such people is horrifying. This will be the downfall of the FBI – right there.
    • This is just more “blame the victim” – a communist specialty – but being pushed out through FBI lowers.
  •  The FBI has post-facto designated a grassy area outside the Capitol as a restricted zone, when it was not restricted on Jan. 6, 2021, in order to widen the net of prosecutions.
    • WOLF: THIS right here is exactly what I’ve been expecting ALL ALONG – that FIB would begin going after the innocent.
    • In order to set up a “precursor” for going after this larger body of Trump supporters, who protested peacefully outside the building, the corrupt DOJ and FBI management needed to pose a PHONY PROBLEM of “domestic violent extremists all over the country” – and now they have innocent people from “all over the country” to fill the bill. SICK!
    • But it is even worse, because if you combine this item with the previous item in this list – that the FBI is blindly going after anybody with “suspicion” of being anywhere near the Capitol building, the FBI can LITERALLY go after anybody who was in Washington DC on January 6, 2021.
    • That is hundreds of thousands of people – maybe a MILLION.
    • So YEAH – FIB management can spread this lie all over the United States.
  •  The FBI intends to prosecute everyone even peripherally associated with J6 and another wave of J6 subjects are about to be referred to the FBI’s Daytona Beach resident agency “for investigation and arrest.”
    • WOLF: BOOM!!! This is exactly what I was predicting.
    • I KNEW that they would not stop with only the people who went inside the building.
    • ALL OF US who were in DC that day are going to be arrested, if this shit moves forward, and I have zero reason to believe that it will stop.
    • The NAZIS and COMMIES of the UNIPARTY are going to come after us. It’s THAT SIMPLE.
  •  The Jacksonville area was “inundated” with “guardian” notifications and FBI agents were dispatched to conduct surveillance and knock on people’s doors, including people who had not been in Washington, DC, on Jan. 6, 2021, or who had been to the Trump rally that day but did not go ­inside the Capitol.
    • WOLF: BOOM!!! This is exactly what I suspected. They are going after EVERYBODY who was there to see Trump.
    • But it will be even bigger than THAT, because this will enable them to go after people who simply “supported Trump” and “might have gone to Washington DC on January 6, 2021”, but were not actually there. All that is needed is a REPORT.
    • This is going to create a classic NAZI “snitch” situation. It’s rather incredible.

SO – what is to be done?

First of all, you need to watch all of the following videos.

How and why you should not talk to the FBI.

More reasons not to talk.

What FBI agents will try to do “nicely” to get you to hurt yourself and other patriots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQJOylbLYJY

More scoop about how they will try to get you to “negotiate” into meeting their lies half-way.

Ten tactics they will use on you.

Now, there are more deadly tricks you need to watch out for.

One of the January Sixth prisoners has stated that he was placed in a vehicle with a GUN on the floor of the back seat in which he was placed. If you can find a link to that case, please post it. The fact that the “J6er” lived to tell us about it, shows that he played it correctly and didn’t fall for whatever trick was in play. Fingerprints on the gun? ENTRAPMENT?

It’s all very FIB.

The bottom line – the DIRTY FEDS play DIRTY. Do not fall for ANY tricks.

As Wheatie liked to say, we WILL get through this.

Preparation, in my opinion, is key.

W

Suspicious Wolf is suspicious.


PS – Additional Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin

LINK: https://rumble.com/v1l37oz-interview-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin-part-1-ep.-1857-the-dan-bong.html

LINK: https://rumble.com/v1l5x1t-interview-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin-part.-2-ep.-1858-the-dan-bon.html


PPS – A Perfect Example – The “Triggered Vet”

Gil00 brought this comment today which illustrates exactly WHY you should not talk to the police.

LINK: https://nypost.com/2022/09/26/california-man-allegedly-plotted-las-vegas-style-mass-shooting/


gil00

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 September 26, 2022 13:29

“California man allegedly plotted ‘Las Vegas-style’ mass shooting

 
“A California man was arrested Sunday for allegedly plotting a “Las Vegas-style” mass shooting and threatening to kill cops, police said.

Dallas Marsh, 37, was taken into custody by SWAT officers at a Super 8 motel in Chico after detectives obtained evidence of his plot, according to a police statement.”

What do you think happened here?

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https://nypost.com/2022/09/26/california-man-allegedly-plotted-las-vegas-style-mass-shooting/

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September 26, 2022 13:39

For one thing – they didn’t get the Effing Bee Eye involved – so everyone worked together to prevent a mass murder.

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September 26, 2022 13:41

Hmmm. Dallas Marsh almost sounds like a made-up MK FF name…

Wonder if his other outfit has short hair, sunglasses, and the other FIB accessories….

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kalbokalbs

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September 26, 2022 13:45

Who knows. For now, NOT buying the headlines.

LE “knows” a specified deadline, have the guy in custody, but won’t state the deadline. Hmmm.

So where was the shooting supposed to take place? No details. Hmmm.

Dude is arrested. NO MENTION of weapons, ammunition, explosives… Hmmm.

Then, the holy grail is revealed.

  • Army vet. Delta Force Commander. White. Male.
  • HLS will be proud. Domestic white male veteran terrorist.
  • The only missing is, “Trump supporter”.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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September 26, 2022 14:00

Definitely FIB is involved here, using a JTTF (“fusion center”). This is so that FIB can act through locals and hide out as an internal intelligence agency instead of LE.

The guy probably made social media posts. FIB has a file on him. Dude likely said something stupid. They jump him, bring him in, and he says more stupid stuff.

BUT I REPEAT MYSELF….

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September 26, 2022 14:01

EXACTLY – you nailed it – this guy fits the narrative.

I need to dump my new post – this fits right in.

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This guy very likely made stupid social media posts, but was manipulated into being triggered during an interview. See how this works?

There is great likelihood that – ACTING AS INTELLIGENCE AND NOT LE (see Kyle Seraphin interviews – note what he says about the “counterintelligence” division which is SEPARATE from the criminal division) – FIB helped push this guy so that he WOULD be triggerable during an interview. Then, FIB’s hands are clean. See how that works?

Do I suspect there was entrapment here? YOU BETCHA. Dude was in California – right? FIB likely has free rein to do whatever it wants in Blue Commie States.

If you listen to the Bongino interviews above, Kyle Seraphin basically explains how FBI agents will often “advise people not to say anything”, to make a stupid case go away.

THE OPPOSITE CAN HAPPEN – and it likely WILL right now, as the DIRTY DEM FBI tries to create narrative cases based on social media posts.

They are trying to CREATE CASES.

Their tactic will be to bring you in and RILE YOU UP.

I REPEAT – DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE.

Better still, PRACTICE NOW how you will not talk to them. Until you are REALLY GOOD.

Because you ARE really good.


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Suspicious Cat is purring when you ask him to talk. Think about it.

Bidenazis Fend off Bidenistas and China on Sensibly Chummy NASA Bro Pick, but Will They Hold the Testosterone Line?

WARNING: Snark Level 10/10. Blunt Objectivity 9/10.

Ah, sometimes the INFO-SNIPING is so much better from the trenches, where we have a real shot at the belly of the beast. Or have I just been listening to too much country music and drinking Mountain Dew at 3 AM?

Yeah, I’m being a prick about the stolen election. FOUR YEARS, you cheats. That is how long you will have to put up with me, making the Biden administration’s every move look like Mark Zuckerberg getting reamed by Xi Jinping on top of a burning cop car in the middle of an Antifa-BLM riot during a California brushfire. And then Mike Pence, AOC and Miley Cyrus show up.

Have I gotten y’all in the mood for ANYTHING ELSE – maybe even a little SCIENCE to go with the MIND BLEACH?

Good.

Enter my favorite political magazine, Chemical & Engineering News, otherwise known as C&EN, upon which I almost foolishly promised never again to cast my eyes, back when they declared anthropolitical global warming to be “settled science”. Ah, yes – those wonderful bypassers of “show the crowd the data, please”, who declared our most urgent problem, back in our somewhat less collective youths, to be “bad human” global warming.

Yes – you heard the fake science from a science organization which gave the ideas scientifically temporary but geopolitically lasting legitimacy – that grave pronouncement of imminent global misfortune by heat death, oddly at the beginning of a solar mini ice age – and even more oddly at a likely critical point for RE-LAUNCHING of a full ice age. The only real beneficiaries of said mad science – at least on THIS planet – seeming to be Russia (URANIUM) and China (COAL).

I never thought it could get worse.

Did somebody say “worse”?

Hold their white wine and sensimilla smoothie – Team “Get Rid Of Trump” Science is already having an orgasm over the 46D double-wide silicone election.

Governance. Such a wonderful word! And you get it TWO ways with the Biden administration.

State control with Big Science, Big Military, Big Intelligence, and Big Euro-Fabian elite overtones, sometimes having to keep that rising arm down, I refer to it all as the Bidenazis.

Alternatively, and we mean alternatively, you have the hot-headed, designer-encrusted, faux-plebeian radicals through whom China makes sure the US doesn’t generate TOO MUCH theft-worthy research and technology, lest the CCP never get into the passing lane. These, of course, are the Bidenistas.

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) were joined by Democratic lawmakers from both the House and Senate on February 7, 2019, to introduce Green New Deal legislation.

Now – some will undoubtedly object to my application of the Third Reich metaphor as being [and which I of course regard as illusory and tangential] Holocaust diminution, or even more wrongly as Godwinian nullification of my own message.

Well, as Biden talks about nullifying my favorite bit of Judaica – “every Jew, a .22(3)” – by executive order, looking a bit “old-timey German executive” in the process, let me be blunt in ways that certain people should have been with Madeleine Jacobs about global warming. However it happened, the assigned Jewish monopoly on calling out center-left totalitarian outrage is – in my “well this is a fine mess” opinion – PRECISELY why we now suffer from center-left totalitarian outrage.

Yes. Having ONE GROUP and ONLY ONE GROUP in charge of calling out Euro-Left-Faschy-Soashy-Commie-Jackboot statism – which was not exactly good for a WHOLE LOTTA GROUPS – and then failing to object when that ONE GROUP made it all about THE ONLY ONE GROUP, and not about Euro-Left-Faschy-Soashy-Commie-Jackboot statism itself – is why, in my persistent if somewhat pestilent opinion, we are presently sliding into Euro-Left-Faschy-Soashy-Commie-Jackboot statism.

Allies. They’re USEFUL, damn it! Even at the VICTIM LEVEL.

Asleep at the wheel doesn’t even begin to describe it. The “don’t worry, we’ll create good socialism this time” assigned self-own WORKED, when it was made to look neo-liberal friendly, and roughly orthogonal to the Zionism-antisemitism axis.

It was a brilliant strategy. Give it up, people. You were OWNED. We’ll never be exactly sure by WHOM, but that’s OK. Whatever life is on this planet, eventually, they will find it all rather hilarious.

“Good God! It’s the Vaccination Passport! We can’t dock there!”

Now – the Bidenazis play a good game being “responsive” to Bidenista concerns, but it’s largely a scam, in the same way that Reich RINOs (let’s be fair, now!) respond with cuddly and illusory kabuki to populists, non-monopoly free-marketers, true conservatives, libertarians, and others who didn’t get the UNIPARTY message and realize it was an ORDER, not merely a suggestion.

The relative center of American statism – just “absolute left” enough to let technology drive humanity on toward a bald, androgynous, trans-human future – is solid, and it is PURE UNIPARTY. The RINOs just smoke their cigars in the slow lane and warn their children never to listen to any of that gay shit in private school, because grandkids.

Realities. Accept them. It’s easier to see where the FRONT actually is.

SO – where are we now?

Red Jen is an interesting barometer of where things are, as White House Kremlinologists (again, a horribly stretched metaphor, but it works like crazy) try to read the tea leaves (whoops) that explain the smoky, oily, acrid output of the black box that is the Bidenazi-Bidenista two-cycle Trabant engine.

Red Jen’s most notable “give up the strategy” moment seemed to have been about SPACE. See her face above. THAT is what she thought about Space Force.

Let’s break that down a bit.

The Bidenistas don’t think much of spending money on SPACE, because what little spare change we will have in their windowless, concrete, China-indebted future, will be needed by THEM. Think Castro or Chavez with access to all the levers of power in Washington. Can they crash it all but still have exquisite and fashionable feasts for the tippy-top of The Party, like Castro did? Hold their credit-card-maxxed-out organic salad and trendy micro-brew. They can do it. But trust me, there is no future for SPACE FORCE on that tab.

The Bidenazis, however, are in a bit of a quandry on space exploration. Tech may be pricey, but it just appeals to them. It’s a MUST-HAVE. Why, it matters more than life itself. Especially somebody else’s life. There is always some new gadget that will cinch the New World Order.

Red Jen’s subtle mocking of Space Force reflected her ginger-hot levels of Bidenista TDS, but that is just one side of her – the one she normally keeps in check to keep her job at the inter-factional interface. Her walking it all back to a Biden reassurance of full support for the infant military branch, reflected the reality that Bidenazi nominal support for Bidenista social insanity comes at a price – FULL SUPPORT FOR PLAY-TOYS. Red Jen had to virtue signal to that reality, and she almost sounded like an “actually served” Pentagon mom doing it. Impressive.

SO – Space Force is SAFE on 46th base. The natural question is, what do the Bidenistas get in return?

I had been thinking the Bidenistas would get control of NASA, meaning more “Muslim outreach”, giving the farm to Russia in the manner of the last 3 decades (while condemning Putin, of course), and maybe letting China run the place, albeit secretly.

Well, it looks like that dramatically bad future has an actual chance of NOT HAPPENING.

Indeed, thanks to a Kremlin tip from C&EN, it appears that the Bidenazis are driving a VERY hard bargain in defense of space, by getting or allowing Biden to nominate former senator Bill Nelson as head of NASA.

Yes, Nelson is a politician, and a “fren” of Biden, and this is a typical leftist appointment in that respect. Everything is political to the left, and if they can’t find a field expert who is willing to put The Party First, THEY will take care of that little aspect by inserting a politician. However, Nelson is still considered to be one of the most “pro-NASA” politicians of all. Even Trump’s NASA guy, Jim Bridenstine, is in favor of this nomination.

If I had to be cynical – and I do – I would say that it appears that, in exchange for the January 6th heavy lifting to get rid of Trump, the Bidenazis are now in the CATBIRD SEAT on appointments that matter to them.


Exhibit A: A great article, typical of the very high quality “rank and file” work at C&EN. If you want to read the tea leaves, THIS mag is still your magnifying glass, as long as certain corrections are applied to the LEFT LENS.

https://cen.acs.org/policy/Former-senator-astronaut-Bill-Nelson-picked-to-lead-NASA/99/web/2021/03


You will note that this article is pleasing to read, although perhaps a bit dry. Compared to most of what passes for journalism these days, it is extraordinarily professional and investigative, explaining not only why Bill Nelson is popular, and why he will almost certainly be confirmed, but also why I still bother to read this magazine. There is only one short paragraph at the end which carries any political payload at all, rather than EXPLAINING the politics. It is very matter of fact, and appears to be almost an add-on, stating:

“Some have criticized Biden for not nominating a woman to the position. All of NASA’s administrators have been men.”

I mean, that’s pretty much as objective as you can get, most of all because both statements are TRUE.

I was at first inclined to suspect that the author’s overwhelmingly female/feminist Bidenista management at C&EN was responsible for forcing that little one-paragraph addition, but after looking at some other sources, I changed my mind. The author could have said MUCH more about that aspect, but only at some risk of turning his work into an opinion piece.

Well, opinion is what we do here. Allow ME to do the heavy lifting.

If you go to almost any source of POLITICAL news, that particular aspect (“WHY DIDN’T BIDEN NOMINATE A WOMAN, DAMN IT!!!???”) drowns out almost everything else.

The virtue signaling – it BURNS!

EXAMPLE: The Daily Beast



As you can see, this “news” article actually says “BUT HE’S AN OLD WHITE MAN, yada, yada, yada.” You will see much more blatantly, hiply, anti-white racist, anti-male sexist politics in the article.

Rather hilariously, one source admits to Nelson’s competence: “I’m sure Nelson will do a good job,”. Really! Damn, these distracting things which get in the way of social justice!

Our “competitors” can only grin.

I urge you to go to the link and read more.


To deeply understand what is going on here, you have to understand that all the kvetching about appointing women is NOT ultimately the decision of Democrats, or women, or feminists, or diversity mongers.

It’s CHINA.

You can say CCP if you want – I’m fine with that. Just remember – CCP wields a very big stick made almost entirely of Chinese people, and that stick is called CHINA. It has some white and black paper around the baseball bat here in America, but it’s still a baseball ba….. Did I say baseball bat? I meant stick, silly!

China needs to politicize American organizations with C-level puppets who hold America-weakening neo-liberal delusions – which China publicly hates and condemns but secretly loves on US, not THEM. China also needs to WEAKEN those organizations directly by always deflecting their leadership choices from the BEST candidates to others, which is what clunky and ham-fisted diversity policies, or similarly knee-jerk reactions to media diversity-mongering, do.

It’s very clear that Nelson is a strong consensus candidate, admired and respected by Democrats, Republicans, and NASA insiders. He likely knows more about NASA than any politician alive.

A very OBVIOUS choice.

I am willing to go along with the idea that – for whatever reason – Biden picked the “best” candidate, as well as a loyal one, likely upon either Bidenazi urging or Bidenazi approval.

However, it’s VERY obvious that the Bidenistas are NOT happy with this pick. We may have a competent candidate, but we are one step further away from all of us (except The Party, of course) living in windowless concrete bunkers outside elite-only airports, which – to the Bidenistas – would be a much better world.

This, but improved, by removing the windows.

Sadly, we’ll never get there with appointees like Bill Nelson.

Oh, the humanity!

Anyway, watch this appointment. Confirmation seems certain, but China may pull out a win, yet. All they need is to do is make the Bidenistas scream longer and louder.

W

Dear KMAG: 20200724 Open Topic / Vaccine News / Vaccine Horse Race / Vaccine Evolution / Vaccine Conservatism

This [(Q+7)=24]TH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPENVERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).


Start HERE.

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1285929634224312322

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Vaccine News

I started off above with THIS NEWS…..

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1285929634224312322

For many of you, I can safely predict that this does NOT feel like “good news” to you. For others, it does feel like good news, but perhaps YOU are dreading being positive about vaccines in a movement which is largely skeptical of them.

MY MISSION is to make you ALL welcome this news, because you will FEAR NO TRUTHS.

To do this, I’m going to take you on a LONG JOURNEY to answer one question – Is Wolf going to take THIS VACCINE if it makes it to production?

Are you ready to go? Here is your first BRAVERY KICK. Repeat after me…..

“I shall FEAR NO TRUTHS!”

Are you ready to go? GOOD!


The first thing I noticed is that Seb Gorka – Q DENIER – is using the same GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINE IMAGE that measly Q blogger Wolf Moon uses all the time.

I downloaded this sucker back in APRIL, and used the original web URL in a lot of comments.

JUST SAYIN’. Gorka ain’t GOD. He’s just a small human in MAGA, just like the rest of us. He has to scrape images just like the rest of us.

Feel that FEAR slipping away?

GOOD.

Now – remember – POTUS is ALL-IN on developing a vaccine – and QUICKLY.

JUST SAYIN’.

Don’t fear it. UNDERSTAND IT.

By the time we are done here, you will be able to OPINE SMARTLY about what POTUS is doing here, no matter what your personal view of vaccines – either for yourself or for others.

Let’s look more deeply at Seb Gorka’s article:

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Secures 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine from Pfizer

LINK: https://www.sebgorka.com/breaking-news-u-s-secures-100-million-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-from-pfizer/

The United States government has secured a $2 billion deal for 100 million doses of a promising experimental Coronavirus vaccine being developed by the U.S.-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.

The two companies, which are producing the vaccine together, said that the doses will be provided to America if they prove “safe and effective in humans.” The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that as a result of the government’s purchase, the vaccines would come at “no cost” to Americans seeking the vaccine once it’s available.

This is the latest vaccine candidate to be secured for the United States as a result of President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed,” aimed at expediting the possible cure and eventual eradication of the Chinese virus. Other companies developing possible vaccines that have been enlisted by the government include Novavax, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Emergent Biosolutions.

Sebastian Gorka, https://www.sebgorka.com/breaking-news-u-s-secures-100-million-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-from-pfizer/

Here are the KEY POINTS you want to remember as we DIG DEEPER…..

  • deal is for enough doses to use (at least in the short-term) on PART of American populace – NOT ALL – although eventually there will be more than enough (see below)
  • it’s considered promising according to the TRUMP administration
  • vaccine is by US and German companies – NOT a Chinese vaccine
  • the US company is Pfizer – a key identifier along with BioNTech
  • conditioned on the vaccine being safe and effective IN HUMANS
  • part of Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed”
  • goal is CURE and EVENTUAL ERADICATION
  • staying on message – it’s the CHINESE virus
  • OTHER vaccines and makers have been enlisted by the government
    • Novavax
    • Johnson & Johnson
    • Moderna
    • AstraZeneca
    • Emergent Biosolutions

You will note that there is a LINK – and basically what we have here is RE-REPORTING of CNBC.

LINK: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/us-government-taps-pfizer-to-produce-millions-of-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine.html

So let’s GO THERE! Here is CNBC:

U.S. agrees to pay Pfizer and BioNTech $2 billion for 100 million doses of coronavirus vaccine

PUBLISHED WED, JUL 22 2020
7:16 AM EDT
UPDATED 24 MIN AGO
Will Feuer @WILLFOIA

According to the author, there are 3 key points:

  • Under the agreement, the U.S. will get 100 million doses of the vaccine, if it works, and can acquire 500 million additional doses if needed.
  • German biotech firm BioNTech and U.S.-based Pfizer are jointly developing the vaccine.
  • HHS said Americans won’t have to pay for it. 

Now – here are MY additional key points:

  • Pfizer and BioNTech are actually running FOUR different vaccines – any of them that wins may be the one that “succeeds” in this deal
  • A 30K participant trial of the/a Pfizer vaccine is expected to begin later this month (July 2020)
  • The most advanced candidate is called BNT162b1
  • Candidate BNT162b1 has been demonstrated to produce neutralizing antibodies in clinical trials
  • The article EXPLAINS the logic behind the Trump-Pence (Pence is my addition here) “Operation Warp Speed
    • multiple companies pushed to increase the odds of a WINNER, SOONER
    • goal is ENOUGH VACCINE FOR ALL AMERICANS [not saying mandatory – just saying]
    • logistics assumes success and builds supply chains and SCALE while researching
    • note that this is kinda how the Manhattan Project worked
    • this is just the latest vaccine effort to get a federal green light
      • Novavax vaccine was similarly green-lighted at 1.6 billion dollars
      • Johnson & Johnson green-lighted at 0.456 billon
      • Moderna green-lighted at 0.486 billion
      • Astra-Zeneca / Oxford green-lighted at 1.2 billion
      • Emergent Biosolutions green-lighted at 0.628 billion

The explanation of “Operation Warp Speed” is useful, so you don’t have to be AFRAID of talking about it and being mocked by Democrats, should you use the somewhat corny name. It’s like many of Trump’s simple but extremely sound ideas. The names are almost like gatekeepers that turn away mockers, reflexive haters, and other people of “bad faith”, but those of good faith are invited in to get in early on the winning team.

Yeah, I smell PENCE all over that. A genius hire, to do exactly this strategy.

Here is Azar talking:

“This is what’s really unprecedented with President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. We are literally making the commercial scale vaccine now as we’re going through the clinical trial,” Azar told CNBC. “We’re doing that at risk, using the full power of the U.S. government and our financial resources to do that. No one’s ever done this before.”

Vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and others have been ramping up manufacturing capacity before their vaccine’s have been proven to be safe and effective and before receiving regulatory approval. That will help shave months off the time it takes to ultimately distribute a vaccine across the globe.

“We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, said in a statement. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.”

Developing a safe and effective vaccine is seen as crucial to curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 14.9 million people around the world and killed at least 617,200 people, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

While the companies and government race to deliver a successful vaccine, regulators and company officials have assured the public and members of Congress that they will not sacrifice on safety. All that’s at risk, they say, is money. 

A very interesting concept – risk the money on any failed vaccines as far as premature commercialization, but END the “threat” sooner and win big on rebounding the ECONOMY.

THAT RIGHT THERE sounds like classic Trumpian “manage the downside to win” thinking.

NOW – let’s dig DEEPER STILL.

Why is Trump throwing the BIGGEST CHUNK OF CASH YET at this particular vaccine?

In my opinion, it is because this vaccine is showing itself to be SAFE AND EFFECTIVE already, despite being one of the “newer” technologies.

To see this, we need to go to a couple of LINKS in the last article.

First, some prior recent reporting by CNBC – clearly enough time (3 weeks) for the $2B to show up.

LINK: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/pfizer-stock-jumps-after-it-reports-positive-data-in-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html

Pfizer stock jumps after it reports positive data in early stage coronavirus vaccine trial

PUBLISHED WED, JUL 1 2020
9:05 AM EDT
UPDATED WED, JUL 1 2020
3:52 PM EDT
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
@BERKELEYJR

Here are the key points, per CNBC:

  • Pfizer shares jumped after it released positive results from its closely watched early stage human trial on a coronavirus vaccine. 
  • The trial evaluated 45 people. Each participant received 10, 30 or 100 microgram doses of the vaccine or a placebo. 
  • Pfizer said the vaccine was generally well tolerated, though the experimental vaccine also caused fever in some patients, especially for those who were in the 100 microgram group.

Here are my added key points:

  • ONE of the four candidates produced neutralizing antibodies. YES. Just one of them.
  • levels of neutralizing antibodies were 1.8 to 2.8 times higher than in recovered COVID-19 patients
  • after 28 days, all participants at the lower (and safer) 10 and 30 microgram dosages had significant levels of binding antibodies
  • all four candidates are based on mRNA technology
  • reactions to the vaccine were milder than, e.g., the Moderna vaccine (*my* reading)
  • reactions were primarily FEVER and injection site pain, with fever being more common in the 100 microgram group
  • MOST patients reported injection site pain, mild to moderate, but it was SEVERE in one case at 100 micrograms
  • looks to me that they will shoot for 10 or 30 micrograms, depending upon durability of immunity granted by those doses
  • 100 million doses could be ready by the end of 2020
  • 1.2 BILLION doses could be ready by the end of 2021

Next, we follow two PRESS RELEASES from Pfizer and BioNTech:

LINK 1: https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2020/Pfizer-and-BioNTech-Announce-an-Agreement-with-U.S.-Government-for-up-to-600-Million-Doses-of-mRNA-based-Vaccine-Candidate-Against-SARS-CoV-2/default.aspx

LINK 2: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200722005438/en/

Here is the MONEY QUOTE on RESULTS:

The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines, each of which represents a unique combination of messenger RNA (mRNA) format and target antigen. On July 1st, Pfizer and BioNTech announced preliminary data from BNT162b1, the most advanced of the four mRNA formulations. The early data demonstrates that BNT162b1 is able to produce neutralizing antibodies in humans at or above the levels observed in the plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, and this was shown at relatively low dose levels. Local reactions and systemic events were dose-dependent, generally mild to moderate, and transient. No serious adverse events were reported. On July 20th, the companies announced early positive update from German Phase 1/2 COVID-19 vaccine study, including first T Cell response data.

SO – we have an mRNA vaccine which appears to be – compared to other vaccines we’ve been hearing about – relatively safe and effective. NO SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS.

But YES – this vaccine is the NEW and somewhat unproven DNA/RNA vaccine tech.

So how do we JUDGE IT?

In my opinion, we first need to take a look at ALL the leading COVID-19 vaccines.


Vaccine Horse Race

The horrible China-Puppet WHO does have one redeeming feature – BUREAUCRATS KEEPING TRACK OF THINGS.

This URL is always a good place to go, to see where vaccines stand. Yeah, China and Bill Gates probably get to track the downloads, and maybe even infect the PDF file, but whatever.

That’s what I’m here for – to turn that nasty PDF into nice, safe, images.

LINK: https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines

Let’s look at the FIRST TWO PAGES of the document they produce, keeping track of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.

What can we GLEAN from this stuff?

We can’t FULLY understand this yet, but we WILL in a few minutes. For now, we can mostly understand the THIRD COLUMN – who is behind which particular vaccine.

The vaccines are ORDERED in terms of how advanced the RESEARCH is – in particular, how far along the CLINICAL TRIALS are. The TOP TWO DOZEN entries (#1 to #24) are all the vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS. #1 is the most advanced – which right now means PHASE 3 trials. The least advanced (#24) will only be in initial PHASE 1 trials.

So GUESS WHO IS AT THE TOP? (Look in the 3rd column for the developer…)

CHYYYNNAA!

Yeah, boy howdy, that sure is a surprise! The top three entries are all CHINA!

*eyeroll*

Then, number FOUR is the Astra-Zeneca / Oxford vaccine.

Then, numbers FIVE and SIX are CHYYYNNAA again!!! Think of that – the top 6 vaccines in terms of advancement, and CHYYYNNAA has FIVE of them. I guess that’s what happens when YOU RELEASE THE VIRUS.

SICK.

The next two are Western – Moderna and Inovio. Both of these have gotten a lot of press, not all of it good.

Moderna (#7) made the news b/c it came out with glowing statements about trials, but the fine print uncovered in the next few days was lots of serious side effects. What followed was a journalist pile-on, with lots of talk that Moderna has no experience, is stiff-arming the feds on safety, and is hyping more than fixing stuff. Very “Obama”.

Inovio (#8) is a DNA vaccine, similar to the mRNA vaccines. Look in the FIRST COLUMN under “Platform” to see the type. You don’t have to understand the platform quite yet. The Inovio vaccine was one of the first COVID-19 vaccines to get a lot of public attention, and is backed by Bill Gates and CEPI, as are MANY of the others. Gates is behind most of the horses in the race, so that he CANNOT LOSE.

Ask WHY.

Numbers 9, 10 and 11 are also DNA vaccines, with #9 being a Japanese effort.

Then come two more standard vaccines, Indian (#12) and Chinese (#13), leading off on the SECOND image / second page above.

Finally, at #14, we get to Novavax, which is the vaccine I like for myself, provided that it’s ever proven safe and effective (and useful) in people who’ve already had the disease. WHY I like it for ME, however, requires some explanation, but not yet – let’s keep looking at the list.

Skip over #15, the Turtlehead vaccine (made you curious, didn’t I?), which is also a vaccine that I am PERSONALLY potentially favorable toward. Seriously, it’s just a KY company (Kentucky Bioprocessing), and KY is in USA. But it is also a technology I favor as likely to be SAFE.

FINALLY, at #16, we get to the Pfizer vaccine. This is the one in question. Am I going to take it?

Not going to answer that yet!

Of the remaining entries, I’m liking FOR MYSELF numbers 18, 19, and 20, which include the GSK effort (#18) and the University of Queensland vaccine (#20), both in the news occasionally.

Of the last 4 entries, 21-24, thereby rounding out the TWO DOZEN vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS, #21 is the Imperial College vaccine often in the news, and #23 is the CHINESE ARMY (PLA) entry – an mRNA vaccine, which IMO is likely to be STOLEN TECH.

So – HOW DO WE JUDGE?

WELL – before we can really judge, it helps if we understand certain basics of vaccines.

Let me provide you with something VERY AWESOME that I found online.


Vaccine Evolution

Vaccines, like everything else in Creation, are EVOLVING INTELLIGENTLY.

We just have to make sure that they’re EVOLVING HONESTLY.

That’s where it gets tricky. But first, we have to understand the basics of how vaccines WORK – hopefully WITH the immune system, INTELLIGENTLY AND HONESTLY.

Vaccines as we now know them are designed to trigger the immune system into THINKING we have a disease, when we don’t really have it, so that when we would otherwise get the disease, we are already prepared for it, and fight it off. This is a very smart idea which has TRACKED human civilization.

Smallpox is the disease which taught us about vaccination. Before the term “vaccination” was generalized to its current state of “inducing immunity to a disease by prior and safer activation the immune system”, “vaccination” meant inoculation (intentional INFECTION) with cowpox or a relative, as a DEFENSE against smallpox. Vaccination was EXCLUSIVELY a smallpox therapy. Very interestingly, the OLDER, more dangerous practice of infection with heat-and-time-weakened smallpox virus was KNOWN by empirical observation, and dated back to at least the Middle Ages in China. That practice was called “variolation”.

Thus, cowpox cross-immunity to protect against smallpox was a LUCKY BREAK. Most diseases don’t HAVE a nearly harmless cowpox version of “whatever” to protect you from real “whatever”.

Thus, what “vaccines” are doing NOW is much more akin to the OLDER and MORE DANGEROUS practice of variolation – a form of inoculation – intentional infection with the very “something” you are afraid of – preferably something which has been tinkered with in some way so that it no longer kills you.

Inoculation is POWERFUL because it’s more generalizable, but it’s RISKY because it makes US responsible for SAFETY.

You know – if we were more honest, we’d call vaccines something else, like “variolines”, or maybe “inoculums”, or – OH YEAH – inoculations.

I know this is actually very simple, but I want to CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE on “vaccines”.

I want you to be not just INFORMED, which can be DISINFORMED, but to have real and deep UNDERSTANDING, which CANNOT be disinformed as easily.

Read the last three sentences of the above Wikipedia entry for “Variolation” to understand “what cannot be said in science” right now.

The method is no longer used today. It was replaced by smallpox vaccine, a safer alternative. This in turn led to the development of the many vaccines now available against other diseases.

See the trick? It’s a kind of “circle of changed meanings”, so beloved by lying Democrats. The potentially dangerous and generally iffy WOLF/SHEEPDOG of “inoculation” borrowed the sheepskin of the “safer alternative” vaccination to claim false but reassuring safety for what is really the tricky business that could be called “generalized variolation”.

We got LUCKY on smallpox, and now pretend that the same luck-magic can be extended to all diseases. HA! GET REAL, SCIENCE.

The reality is that the term “vaccines” is historical euphemism.

Read the history of smallpox to GROUND YOURSELF in REALITY.

SEE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox

AND: https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html

AND: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/scientists-traced-origin-of-smallpox-vaccine-strains-used-during-civil-war/

Well, vaccines are now a much BROADER science. They are, basically, “tinkering with the immune system to do stuff” – and that includes STERILIZING PEOPLE by induction of auto-immune attack on their reproductive platform. One person’s nasty side effect is another person’s depopulationist panacea.

Have you ever considered WHY we’re not supposed to think about vaccine side-effects? It’s because “SIDE” depends upon your perspective.

“WHAT WE DO NOT EVEN THINK POSSIBLE, WE CANNOT SUSPECT.”

Yes, THAT is how big vaccines are, now. We can actually immunize people against PARENTHOOD.

SO – if you don’t understand vaccines, you are at the mercy of those who do. Be GLAD that the Hitler regime didn’t have sterilization vaccines.

Be CONCERNED that the CHINAZIS have them RIGHT NOW. They could sterilize ALL of the Uighurs and just move the HAN SUPREMACISTS right in.

Y’all see what I’m sayin’?

Why, with all the Uighur men gone, they could be sterilizing all the women – or all the men – right now – with just a SHOT OR TWO. Wait a minute. Somebody reported “medical experimentation” in those Uighur reeducation camps. Hmmmmmmm.

But let’s leave THAT for another time. My point is this – vaccines are a very BROAD topic. For now, let’s stick to “current ways to potentially fight coronaviruses by prior immunization”.


In that regard, I recently found a wonderful blog post which explains the different TYPES of vaccines being considered for COVID-19. This is an excellent article.

LINK: https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-19-vaccine

Classic and new technologies vying to be the first COVID-19 vaccine

Jeffrey Smoot
Information Scientist, CAS
Posted June 11, 2020

I could not have put together such a GREAT and SHORT summary of the different vaccine techs if I had spent years doing it.

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE! It’s actually a VERY fast read!

Now let’s look at the critical TABLE 1, which I’m quoting “vertically” and editorializing somewhat, based on a “monster” metaphor.

The table entries are unmolested. The entry titles reflect – somewhat humorously – my relative levels of trust/distrust of the technologies involved, and their state of readiness for “prime time” – expressed as effectiveness against “theoretical” pathogens.

Table 1. Vaccine Classification


Header Definitions (How to Read Table)

Type — What basic kind of vaccine

Active Component — may be abbreviation or acronym – GOOGLE IT!!!

Advantage — why you might trust this platform

Disadvantage — why you might NOT trust this platform

Vaccine Example — actual uses in existing vaccines you may or may not like


Bitten By Chocula

Type — Live, attenuated

Active Component — Pathogen capable of replication

Advantage — Strong and long-lasting immune response, usually lifetime protection

Disadvantage — Risk of disease

Vaccine Example — Tuberculosis, MMR, smallpox, chickenpox, yellow fever


Carry A Wooden Stake

Type — Inactivated (or killed)

Active Component — Pathogen chemical or heat treated to prevent replication

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — Lesser immune response;  booster shots may be needed

Vaccine Example — Flu, hepatitis A, polio, rabies


Silver Bullets

Type — Subunit (protein, polysaccharide, conjugate, toxoid)

Active Component — Portions of a pathogen

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — Booster shot often needed

Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, HPV, whooping cough, shingles, meningococcal disease, pneumococcal disease, diphtheria, tetanus


Shiny Silver Bullets

Type — VLP

Active Component — Outer coat of virus

Advantage — No risk of disease

Disadvantage — [none mentioned – surely there are some – W]

Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, cervical cancer, malaria


Bitten By Frankenberry

Type — Recombinant vector vaccine

Active Component — Non-pathogenic virus or bacteria as carrier of immunogen of interest

Advantage — Reusable for diverse antigens; no risk of disease

Disadvantage — Pre-existing or development of immunity to vector

Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available


Chocula Goes Back In Time And Marries Your Mom

Type — DNA vaccine

Active Component — Plasmid or other expression vector

Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology

Disadvantage — Lack of data

Vaccine Example — Veterinary medicine (canine melanoma, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus of fish, equine West Nile virus)


Chocula Commits Identity Theft On Your Mom

Type — mRNA vaccine

Active Component — RNA that encodes a disease-specific pathogen protein

Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology

Disadvantage — Effectiveness and side effects are unknown

Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available


This is a great chart because it orders things from “oldest” to newest in terms of general technology.

First live virus (weakened smallpox, cowpox, vaccinia), then dead virus, then specific fragments, then fake Frankenstein live virus, and finally the new fake “like a virus” DNA and RNA mucking around science.

READ THE LINK – each type is explained.

Let me review the different PLATFORMS (column 1) in the pages of the WHO document. These correspond to most of the types in the linked blog post.

  • Inactivated
  • Non-Replicating Viral Vector
  • Protein Subunit
  • RNA
  • DNA
  • VLP

These methods can basically be broken into two different sets of two categories each:

  • OLD-SCHOOL versus NEW-SCHOOL
  • IMMUNOGEN versus INSTRUCTIONS

Old-school methods are “old biology” – no recombinants, no gene sequencing, no plasmids, no fancy tricks.

New-school methods use our advanced knowledge of biochemistry to MAKE STUFF at the molecular and biochemical level, either before injection or after injection.

Immunogen methods inject the stuff that triggers the immune reaction.

Instruction methods inject DNA or RNA – pretty much like a VIRUS does – maybe even USING a virus, or an artificial virus-like construct – to get those instructions into your cells.

So now let me apply those labels to the platforms, including one that’s missing (live /attenuated).

  • Live / Attenuated – OLD-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • Inactivated – OLD-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
  • Non-Replicating Viral Vector – NEW SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • Protein Subunit – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
  • RNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • DNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
  • VLP – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN

You see? There’s actually a lot of choice.

So – what should you trust?

THAT is for you to decide. I can only tell you what *I* trust. And WHY.


Vaccine Conservatism

I am generally – PERSONALLY – favorable toward vaccines, despite being 100% opposed to mandatory vaccinations. Vaccines ave always been good for me. Even the occasional minor aggravation of very mild arthritis in my injection shoulder is not really enough of a negative for me to skip the flu shot.

Nevertheless, I am careful to note that vaccines give me just as many and just as strong minor, negative side effects as any drug – and MOST drugs have minor side-effects that I can observe and report.

The new shingles vaccine, in my case, had stronger side effects than almost ANY drug I had ever taken. Nevertheless, a BARGAIN next to the HORROR OF SHINGLES.

Wolf’s Hot Date With Retrosynthetic Dinopox

Wolf’s Chill Second Date With Retrosynthetic Dinopox

So I’m no fool – vaccines are REAL medicine – with real side effects. AND – if you’ve gotten the new shingles vaccine, then you know that vaccines are getting STRONGER so they can work STRONGER and LONGER.

HOWEVER…..

The entire CHINA VIRUS psy-op and election interference program has done nothing to make me any less suspicious of vaccines. Indeed, it has made me MORE suspicious, if not an actual skeptic. Too many agendas. Too many lies. Too many “whoops”. Too many cute abuses of science. Too many media hit jobs. Too much Bill Gates near any and all of the above.

And CHYYYNNAA through and through the whole nasty affair. China, the home of CCP ChiNazis who love to BLAME THE VICTIM.

And which CHINAZIS could easily be STERILIZING UIGHURS with STOLEN GSK vaccine technology RIGHT NOW.

Suspicious? HELL YES!

On the bright side, I would not have been made aware of mankind’s current capabilities for eugenocide, had I not been “awakened” on vaccines, so I consider my new suspicions a stroke of good luck for any and all groups which HAVE BEEN, ARE BEING, or WILL EVER BE slated for GENOCIDE.

Uighurs! WATCH YOUR SIX!!!

One of the reasons Epstein was schmoozing all the big brains in science was – I am convinced – keeping track of the infinite bad possibilities that led to “Never Again”. SO *** DING DING DING *** I sure hope THAT particular baby didn’t get thrown out with the dirty pedophile’s bathwater. How the “this time we won’t fail” time-bomb of sterilization vaccines could have proceeded to where it is without being disarmed tells me somebody was fooling somebody. TSK-TSK. Shame on EVERYBODY.

ANYWAY – back to topic.

I think you could call me a VACCINE CONSERVATIVE.

I am not necessarily averse to any class of vaccine as I categorize them, or as others categorize them. I could take a new-school vaccine. I could take an old-school vaccine. I might take ANY of them, including the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, provided the following:

  • vaccine has been found safe and effective to TRUMP’S satisfaction
  • vaccine has been TESTED and found safe and effective for people who have already had either COVID-19 or any other weak coronavirus
  • vanishingly small number of cases of super-serious side effects
  • basic technology has no critical theoretical weaknesses
  • proven to NOT result in immune enhancement phenomenon
  • basic technology must show LIFETIME SAFETY in individuals and their children, or be able to rule out dangers – INCLUDING STERILITY in both generations – to my satisfaction

The LAST requirement is the one which, right now, makes several of the “new-school” technologies very likely NO-GO ZONES for THE WOLF. Much SHADE is thus cast on DNA, RNA, and viral vector types.

And as for the Pfizer vaccine (mRNA), I am much likelier to pick a DIFFERENT vaccine, particularly a NEW-SCHOOL recombinant protein subunit, neo-classical vaccine – much like the shingles vaccine I just took. Novavax is one of those vaccines. If it can be proven NOT to produce immune enhancement, AND it can be proven to be safe for symptomatic COVID-19 recoverees with lung damage, then I’m very likely to take it.

DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines, and adenovirus vectors are ALL too new and unproven for me to trust. Some of these – maybe all of them – are relying on retreaded edge tech from earlier gene therapy failures.

These platforms MIGHT NOT cause cancer 50 years down the road, or cause sterility, or cause disease in CHILDREN of recipients. But the fact is simple – WE DON’T KNOW YET.

Remember DES?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

Now – if I was 70 years old, I would probably take the very first safe and effective DNA or mRNA vaccine to come to market, not expecting to live to 120, or to have any more kids. But that’s not the case. I’d love a few more decades. If I had a choice – AND I DO HAVE ONE – I’d prefer a more time-trusted technology like protein subunits. Most of all, I would trust a vaccine that got green-lighted by Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor University, an expert on immune enhancement in coronaviruses.

Adenovirus vectors? They already have “issues” of several kinds, including recipients either having or developing immunity to the platform itself. Perhaps not insurmountable, but there are other problems. For instance, we know that viruses have LIFELONG SIDE-EFFECTS. We’ve had decades to discover most of the important natural ones. AND – very disturbingly – we have a government health bureaucracy prominently led for years by a guy (Fauci) who not only forgot about HCQ and chloroquine – very economically conveniently for his vaccine and new therapeutic interests – he figured that the best way to deal with the inconvenient class of “slow, obscure, cancer-causing viruses” was to KICK THE PRIMARY RESEARCHER OF THEM OUT OF NIH.

Sorry – I would like to try these fascinating but risky modern vaccine platforms AFTER they have been checked and re-checked by a POST-FAUCI NIH/CDC/ETC.

And that doesn’t even begin to address this very important question. WHO IS MONITORING VACCINES to make sure that nobody is sneaking in sterility vaccine components? Components that were likely ALREADY TESTED IN AFRICA?

Is the Catholic Church even AWARE of the danger? WHERE is Pope Epstein-Guevara on this one? WITH the depopulationists? Happy to see humanity sterilized by the United Nations, as long as the “grave danger” of climate change is badly addressed?

Sorry. I’m not ready for any “mandatory” vaccine. Just on principle.

SO – you have a lot of choices in future COVID-19 vaccines, ranging from “none” to “any”.

I’m not going to tell you what to think or do.

But I hope that by addressing this issue for myself, I’ve given you some things to think about – so that your chosen position on vaccines will not merely be INFORMED, but FILLED WITH UNDERSTANDING.

And with that, I bid you GOOD HEALTH!


W

Remember when we could trust vaccines? We’re ONE election from heading back there.

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Note which video from last week is NOW GONE.

https://youtu.be/kFD5sQjIyGg

If you recall, this was Dr. Kelly Victory’s video about COVID-19. More on the story below.


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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

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Medical Socialism Means Censorship

Medical socialism MUST censor what it does not want you to hear.

Remember Dr. Kelly Victory’s YouTube video from just last Friday? Here it is now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFD5sQjIyGg

And here it is, re-posted by somebody, and removed AGAIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0iGbD23sZo

Well, somebody named “Sam Q Public” did the public service of re-posting it ONE MOAR TIME, and here it is (for now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YEZlZZyJY

Susan Wocommie, familial Menshevik, is relentless, but WE ARE MOAR RELENTLESS.

And if you want to find Dr. Kelly on YouTube, well, here she is.

That one is from HER ACCOUNT, which you are free to FOLLOW.

So where is MEDICAL SOCIALISM taking us? GLAD YOU ASKED.


Euthanasia to Eugenics to Eugenocide

Where does Stalinist medical socialism lead? Where does it WANT to go?

It is my contention that medical socialism leads to CONTROL OF HUMANITY at a biological level. It will control who lives and who dies, and who (that lives) gets which organs of who (that dies).

Now, I’m not the biggest watcher of eugenics around, but certain things TRIGGER me into action, and Melinda Gates going “blacks first” on coronavirus vaccines was one of those things. To me, it was a SLIP – a careless “tell” that gave up the game.

Bill is much slicker. He is NEVER not in 100% cover-up mode. Melinda – well, shes’s simply not as good of a LIAR. So – as you can tell – I do NOT trust her motivation here.

So let’s talk about “emergency” coronavirus vaccines, but not too loudly, lest people in the media engage in their role of suppressing some thoughts, instilling others, and basically controlling what we think.

I was BORN just a FEW YEARS – a child’s lifetime – a few gray hairs – after somebody tried to *LITERALLY* wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. AND MORE. Black people were way up there on Hitler’s list. Trust me – if Hitler would have won, sterilization vaccines – NOW WORKING – is how he would have gotten rid of Africans, and made Africa a “white utopia”.

Do you believe me? That Hitler would have used modern science for genocide? Of course he would have.

And it’s not a one-time deal. GENOCIDE dressed up as EUGENICS dressed up as PUBLIC HEALTH is bound to happen again. It’s TOO EASY. People are TOO TRUSTING.

My mother, who SAW IT, told me all about it. And my father filled in the technical details.

Hitler’s eugenics movement had ONE GROUP of higher priority for “improving humanity” than Jews and communists, and almost NOBODY stood up for them – the disabled, the retarded, the infirm, and the bedridden. Yeah, I said “RETARD” – so you would REMEMBER. They change the LANGUAGE so you will FORGET HISTORY.

The “medical socialism” of Nazi Germany – their “death panels” – encountered little opposition to the elimination of those deemed “medically unfit”, so that is where it started.

Hitler and his bunch of psychopathic “national” socialists WARMED UP German society to genocide with the easy pickin’s.

That’s not much different from nursing homes, is it? First they keep you out – THEN they kill them.

MANY people get this – the anti-abortion people – the anti-euthanasia people – and many black people who are labeled “conspiracy theorists” – even the execrable Farrakhan. Not enough Jews get this nowadays, but they used to. When ELIMINATION OF JEWS was a recent historical FACT, Jews actually believed that re-creating the conditions needed to pull it off again might be a bad thing.

I am going to be very blunt, because I understand the science, but most people do not.

I am less disturbed by Iranian nukes, which CANNOT KILL ALL JEWS, than I am by American socialists, and beyond them the global socialists, who seem absolutely determined to GIVE the power to accomplish genocide “medically” to the STATE.

And HERE’S THE RUB.

99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY – just like it was in Hitler’s Germany.

I repeat, for the benefit of EVERYBODY on our side.

99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY.

Well, what SECRET do we have HERE?

Is ANY GROUP understanding the danger here? A lot of blacks do. Thank GOD for that. Even the HORRIBLE FARRAKHAN has his saving grace, of realizing that “eugenocide” of blacks is something a LOT of people would NOT risk their LIVES to fight.

I’ll just say it right here. If you’re not watching out for the genocide of OTHERS, you’re not going to be there for genocide against YOU.

The Nazis used a SLICK combination of two things:

(1) OPENLY making the public moderately comfortable with genocide, by selling EUGENOCIDE – the allegedly morally, ethically, and socially acceptable elimination of some group – such as those who exist only by the charity of others, and who are often in some discomfort or pain, and who have a “low quality of life” by the standards of others.

(2) SECRETLY enacting REAL genocide, using bureaucracy as both a COVER and an enabler.

Once every individual is “speech-separated” from every other individual in a socialist society, people are AFRAID TO DISCUSS delicate topics, like “what is Hitler really doing with the Jews?

Under those circumstances, everybody is IN FEAR OF THE STATE. People do NOT talk about what might get THEMSELVES – as an individual – in trouble.

So TROUBLE befalls EVERYBODY.

We cannot allow this SILENCING to happen in America. If we do, then GENOCIDE – starting off with EUGENOCIDE – is not far behind.

Eugenocide will not look like this:

Nor will it look like this (from Cloud Atlas):

It will look like this:

Now this picture is actually very innocent. There is a FAKE NEWS item that says this is Obama, Fauci, and Melinda Gates in the Wuhan lab.

NO.

It is at NIH, during the Ebola crisis. AND there are very similar pictures of TRUMP and Fauci at NIH, during the COVID-19 epidemic.

Both are innocent. AND THAT IS MY POINT.

What follows MAY be innocent, too. But nevertheless, based on exactly how Hitler DECEIVED Jews with a “nice story” about where they were ALL going, EUGENOCIDE will look more like this:

I ain’t sayin’ Melinda Gates wants to kill Blacks and Injuns. But I’m saying – very clearly – that when somebody DOES try to kill Blacks and Injuns, it’s gonna look JUST LIKE THAT – if not even more charitable. It will be NICE, and it will be RACIALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, or otherwise SELECTIVE based on a potentially EUGENIC division.

I’ll explain how it would be done in another post. When you realize how easy it is – RIGHT NOW – to carry out secret genocide, and LOOK like you’re doing the opposite – it will scare the #### out of you.

Are y’all starting to see why ORIGINAL AMERICAN RACE-FREE is the BRAND YOU CAN TRUST?

Good.

Next item.


The Logical Triviality of X Matters

The evil genius of “Black Lives Matter” is that it is three things at once.

  • Trivially True
  • Incomplete
  • Almost Meaningless

Saying “Black Lives Matter” is like saying all of the following.

  • White Lives Matter
  • Pencils Matter
  • Slaves Matter
  • Heroes Matter
  • Villains Matter
  • Ted Bundy Matters
  • American Flag Matters
  • Trump Matters
  • Pedophiles Matter
  • Books Matter
  • Matter Matters
  • Mass Matters
  • Something Matters
  • Nothing Matters
  • Things Matter
  • X =

The temptation is to make it MORE MEANINGFUL – by saying something like – I don’t know – maybe “All Lives Matter”. That is a TRICK – to bait you into the appearance of negating or disagreeing with a trivially true statement – one which moreover has an IMPLIED GOOD MESSAGE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

Democrats are saying “X equals”. If you say in response that X equals ANYTHING, or add some condition, build some theorem, or draw some corollary, you have fallen for the trick.

Let’s be honest. Throw away all your preconceptions about the phrase BLM, and who is behind it.

Do black lives matter? Just answer THAT question, with no BUH BUH BUH about what comes next.

Of course they matter. Here is the logic:

IF {All Lives Matter}
AND {Black Lives Is A Subset Of All Lives}
THEN {Black Lives Matter} = TRUE

Ignore the organization. Ignore the Marxists. Ignore the riots. Ignore the violence.

The statement {Black Lives Matter} is TRIVIALLY TRUE.

The phrase “black lives matter” is actually not very comforting, but people presume that it is. Note that people who think black lives are worth only 3/5 of a white life, can AGREE with the statement “black lives matter”. People who think black lives are worth nothing more than the cost of a CREMATORY RIDE can agree with the statement. People who think black lives are a NEGATIVE, and need to be eliminated with sterility vaccine components snuck into specific lots of a coronavirus vaccine, can agree with that statement.

Yup. Here is a NAZI agreeing with “Black Lives Matter”:

“Black lives matter. We had better do something about them before they overpopulate.”

The incomplete statement “black lives matter” is actually very insidious. Sometimes I think the biggest racists in America – perhaps some secret Nazi grandchildren left over from WWII and Operation Paperclip, came up with this gimmick.

Here is what Wolf Moon says – a much more meaningful statement.

“Black lives matter as much as white lives. Will you agree, Democrats?”

This puts the Democrats back on the spot. “All Lives Matter” does not. If the Democrats try to say that black lives matter in any way not equal to white lives – either MORE or LESS – they are TOAST. But they don’t. They RACE-BAIT unassailably with the safely meaningless phrase “black lives matter”.

Democrats are doing what they have done since slavery – teaching SOME blacks, by horrible example and evil psychology born of the master-slave relationship, how to be tricky and deceitful like them.

Democrats are teaching blacks to play a MIND GAME that turns them against Trump voters, who will predictably try to “de-race-ify” “Black Lives Matter” into “All Lives Matter” – a noble gesture which plays the weakest card in the white hand, and psychologically tells black people on behalf of Democrats “these guys are not really your friends – WE ARE – because we say ‘black lives matter’ without questioning it.

A nasty trick.

SO – don’t be afraid to admit the Truth.

Black lives matter.

Or – if you really want to get their goat – black lives matter as much as white lives.

You don’t disagree with that, Democrats – do you?

DO YOU?

Yeah. Watch the commies stutter, stumble, trip and fall.

AND LASTLY…..


Happy Birthday, Gil’s Kiddo!

Today is Gil’s Kiddo’s B-Day. AND I QUOTE….


gil00

Hi everyone here! I an going to ask for a very nice favor from everyone. Kiddo’ 7th birthday is Friday, on Q day. 7/17 how nice is that? Summer birthdays are hard with friends scattered on vacation(I know bc my birthday was today/yesterday) but this year he has had no friends to do anything with.

Would you all individually take a moment and post a message, poem, worldly 7 year old appropriate joke or gif, or good advice for his future?

This is only if Wolf or mods are ok with it.

I will print out what I can and save everything else. He knows about the site so getting told Happy Birthday by other people will make him extremely happy.

Thanks in advance.
Have a great Thursday!

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OK – I’ll say it – in the BIGGEST LETTERS HERE.

<3 HAPPY BIRTHDAY! <3


OK – That’s it. LET ‘ER RIP!!!

W

WOLF LIVES MATTER!

Dear KMAG: 20200612 Open Topic / Sterilization Vaccines / GuginoGate Teaser

This FEARLESS FRIDAY open thread is OPENVERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).



You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

This open thread has TWO additional purposes.

FIRST, it is going to be a TEASER for an article on “GuginoGate” – the latter being the FAKE NEWS SCANDAL underlying Trump’s tweet which is cited above.

Let’s look at that more closely…..

Yeah, let’s watch how he holds position on that last swipe, even after the cop shoves him away – WHICH I CONTEND WAS THE DESIRED RESPONSE BY THE POLICE TO SET UP WHAT FOLLOWS!!!!!…..

YUP – the DEFINITIVE ARTICLE on GUGINOGATE is coming!


But now I would like to REMIND everybody about one possible reason WHY Adam Schiff – serial liar and hoaxer – is so utterly HUNG UP on a really stupid idea that might be called “VACCINES CAN DO NO WRONG” – an utterly untenable scientific position, despite all the GOOD that smart, honest, proven and well-tested vaccines – like drugs – have to offer.

Adam Schiff – very wrongly – believes that any position other than “vaccines can do no wrong” is “misinformation“.

HORSEFEATHERS!!!

One of the PROOFS that vaccines can indeed “do harm” is the fact that vaccine candidates are FAILED all the time for such harm.

ANOTHER such proof is that THIS HARM is exactly the principle on which STERILITY VACCINES are based.

Sterility vaccines (or sterilization vaccines – take your pick) are DESIGNED to cause very specific harm that will render people STERILE without otherwise harming them.

It is important to know that significant progress has been made on these things.

First, go HERE to listen to a whistleblower’s report on that progress:

LINK: https://www.bitchute.com/video/IalsQvC0XIdl/

Take it with a few grains of salt, but it still sounds both tenable and authentic to me.

NOW – it BOTHERS people – and I’m one of them – that SCIENCE has been doing a lot of lying lately, and has really earned the name FAKE SCIENCE. It’s not like we can trust everybody in science.

So – some people think the reason nobody is TALKING about sterilization vaccines, but great progress is being made on them, is that EUGENICISTS – like HITLER – are rearing their ugly heads again, and that THEY are the ones pushing SECRET RESEARCH on sterility vaccines.

I mean – let’s face it. Hitler would have MUCH preferred a sterilization vaccine to Zyklon B as a means to “solve the Jewish problem”.

SO, go HERE for Natural News to offer THEIR theory on where this is going.

RACIST EUGENICS.

SHOCKING podcast: The evil plot (by Big Pharma) to use COVID-19 vaccines to mass murder blacks

Depopulation globalist Melinda Gates already pushing experimental COVID-19 vaccines on “people of color” as the target group to vaccinate first

NOW – I don’t know if Mike is right about the eugenicists plotting to kill blacks, but Margaret Sanger and the Eugenics movement did indeed want to reduce the population of black people – that is very well documented.

And a eugenicist pretty much started World War II, if I recall.

And eugenicists are probably still around, although I think they keep a pretty low profile. But they certainly seem plausible. Enough that people believe science fiction involving such things is “highly likely to happen”.

But killing blacks?

Frankly, if CHINA were driving “sterilization wars”, I would think WHITES would be their primary target, but whatever.

Mike Adams’ view of COVID-19 actually sounds very well-informed to me. Not a lot of speculation there. That’s good. But the bottom line is that the real issue isn’t whether Mike Adams is credible. The real issue is that mainstream science and medicine, after all the literally murderous hate and trickery dropped on hydroxychloroquine from their ranks, are NOT CREDIBLE.

And we have to fix that.


W

PS – one more important video from Mike Adams.

BOMBSHELL: Leaked secret meeting reveals editor of The Lancet describing Big Pharma as “criminal”