“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Forty years ago, I would have been writing this as a letter to the editor of my favorite science association magazine, AFTER the president of that association would have ALREADY said something similar PUBLICLY to the President of the United States, BUT – well – times have changed, and the heads of science associations don’t say things about leftist groups that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t approve first.
So today WE THE PEOPLE talk about one of my favorite sciences – CHEMISTRY.
Let’s talk about relative dangers – what is hype and what is not hype.
Remember the “Deplor-a-Ball” after the Trump inauguration, when those DNC-Creamer-Antifa types (whoever) were going to use BUTYRIC ACID to attack the ball?
It’s time for some BRUTAL honesty for the sake of DISCERNMENT.
People on our side made a big deal about butyric acid being “corrosive” at the time, but the truth is, butyric acid is a weaker acid than acetic acid, the main stuff of VINEGAR. Pure acetic acid is not bad stuff – one could actually wash their hands with it, as long as they washed their hands thoroughly afterwards with water. Acetic acid, like butyric acid, is a WEAK ACID.
Weak acids give you TIME – maybe even INFINITE TIME – to wash them off. If they’re going into your STOMACH, where it’s already even MORE acidic, it’s not even a big deal.
That is why we put acetic acid – whoops, I mean vinegar – on our salads. We enjoy the MILD SENSATION of its WEAK ACID NATURE on our TONGUES. On our MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
Are you starting to see this?
Even when acetic acid is BAD, like when you cough a bit from inhaling some salad dressing, or when we use acetic acid to make cute little lab animals COUGH (but not too badly!) in tests of COUGH SUPPRESSION, it just ain’t that bad.
By the way, they teach this stuff in universities. Or at least, they used to.
Butyric acid, like acetic acid, simply isn’t that bad. It STINKS really, really, really badly, and THAT is what the evil Democrats were going to do – STINK UP that fancy party of uber-hip, good-to-be-bad, Trump supporters.
That’s it. It was a STINK ATTACK. But many on our side tried to make it sound worse than it was, because they could, because the LOSERS and HATERS had basically made a really dumb error in using a stinky stuff with the name ACID in it. The Democrats didn’t respect the POWER of psychology and information over actual chemistry.
Yeah, I know the feeling – the Dems who plotted that attack are indeed evil punks who deserve to go to jail – but it was still just a STINK ATTACK – not a corrosive attack. Even if Democrats had thrown that stuff on people, it would have been like throwing a mixture of RANCID BUTTER AND VINEGAR.
Yes, it probably says “corrosive” and “danger” on the label. Today, everything is OVER-LABELED, and we don’t have much DISCERNMENT of true chemical dangers. Everything is deadly in California for a reason – so that nobody has discernment. They WANT people to be like babies, utterly dependent on “experts” like me.
BUT NOW FOR SOME DISCERNMENT. Now for something discernibly different.
Fast forward to ANTIFA, and their threats to throw water balloons filled with “muriatic acid and wax” at conservatives. THAT, my friends, is a whole nuther beast. THAT is where CHEMICAL DISCERNMENT comes in.
Muriatic acid is – as you can see here – as much as 28% hydrochloric acid.
28% Hydrochloric acid is, for lack of a better term, concentrated hydrochloric acid.
People quibble over concentrations here, but it is frigging MEANINGLESS. As I will explain.
From Wikipedia:
Hydrochloric acid is produced in solutions up to 38% HCl (concentrated grade). Higher concentrations up to just over 40% are chemically possible, but the evaporation rate is then so high that storage and handling require extra precautions, such as pressurization and cooling. Bulk industrial-grade is therefore 30% to 35%, optimized to balance transport efficiency and product loss through evaporation. In the United States, solutions of between 20% and 32% are sold as muriatic acid. Solutions for household purposes in the US, mostly cleaning, are typically 10% to 12%, with strong recommendations to dilute before use. In the United Kingdom, where it is sold as “Spirits of Salt” for domestic cleaning, the potency is the same as the US industrial grade.[14] In other countries, such as Italy, hydrochloric acid for domestic or industrial cleaning is sold as “Acido Muriatico”, and its concentration ranges from 5% to 32%.
Even the toilet bowl cleaners based on HCl are shocking to me in their strength, and they are nowhere near 28% – more like 5-10%. I have ordered my wife NOT to buy those things. We had to air out the house the last time she used one. I smelled HCl everywhere and I did a MAJOR “WTF”.
I’m not saying this isn’t a damn good product. What I’m saying is that people need to be damn careful with it, and – well – my dear wife needs a more carefree product, let’s just say.
Note that the PRINCIPLE here is the same as what ANTIFA is doing with added “wax”. The “gel” is a way to make it STICK. They’re just talking about even stronger acids.
Check out the warnings on this gelled 5-10% acid. Seriously. READ THEM.
Trust me, these differences in high (>5%) concentrations only mean a few seconds MORE or LESS before it does the SAME NASTY STUFF TO YOUR BODY. These are all STRONG CONCENTRATIONS OF THE SAME ACID – a substance known as hydrogen chloride.
If we are brutally honest, then the reason that they CALL the commercial, industrial-grade stuff “muriatic acid” – an older name that NOBODY uses in the laboratory any more – is simply because it DOESN’T SOUND AS BAD.
Oh, they’ll give you some industry jargon history blah-blah-blah excuse, and technically it will be true, but FUCKIN’ A THIS SHIT IS JUST CONCENTRATED HYDROCHLORIC ACID.
AND CON HCL IS BAD SHIT.
I know this sounds harsh, but I personally think that police need to SHOOT anybody throwing balloons, once strong acid has been identified. They need to END THE THROWING IMMEDIATELY.
Here is why I feel this way.
I have DEALT with both butyric acid and muriatic/hydrochloric/whatever acid. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Hydrochloric is one of the ones they WARN PEOPLE ABOUT in the lab. Nobody warns you about butyric acid, even if you can find a bottle.
In contrast, chemistry students in laboratory are going to use concentrated HCl a LOT, and they need to respect it. Nothing will FREAK OUT a chemistry department head faster than hearing that some freshman spilled concentrated hydrochloric acid all over themselves.
The first thing that will be asked is HOW FAST the stuff was washed off. SECONDS COUNT.
Imagine a pint of the stuff in THE FACE.
Hydrochloric acid can blind, or if inhaled deeply as a liquid, mist, or concentrated vapors, KILL. A strike in the face, like Andy Ngo of Quillette got with the concrete “milkshake”, would likely blind or kill him, if it was con HCl instead of concrete.
He would have been in WAY worse shape than what you see below.
Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv
— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@HarmeetKDhillon) June 30, 2019
That, my friends, is the result of NORMAL weaponry. ROCKS, basically.
HCl in the hands of ANTIFA is a CHEMICAL WEAPON.
When we are in the laboratory, we ventilate butyric acid for STENCH, but we ventilate hydrochloric acid for DANGER.
Inhale a little bit of water, and you are on the ground coughing. Inhale concentrated hydrochloric acid, and your lungs are burned from the inside.
Are you starting to see why I am basically thinking the feds need to send in the troops and restore order to the whole bloody left coast? This stuff is ridiculous. This isn’t America. This is the frigging Russian Revolution.
By IDIOTS who scream about RUSSIA? Seriously?
It’s literally INSANE.
I think I’ve gotten every kind of concentrated acid on me. Every one of the “strong acids” is horrible in its own way. Sulfuric burns through clothing and skin, but it’s slow. Nitric is faster and oxidizing and does interesting things to clothing, but it’s not super-volatile. You can get a fuming version of either sulfuric or nitric acid. Those are a bit nastier. Nice, fresh, highly concentrated hydrochloric acid fumes on its own, just a bit, and the fumes have a very seductively pure but deadly look, kinda like the railroad crash above. Hydrochloric is the most like a chemical weapon. It’s volatile, searing, fast, and strong.
The idea that these ANTIFA people want to make it even worse – more like napalm on human skin by adding the wax – that is just sick. It’s like our “yippies” went from protesting ABOUT napalm to MAKING IT.
I’m pretty sure that ANTIFA is Robert Creamer’s work, because he said he likes to use mental patients, and these people sure seem like mental patients to me. They are – quite literally – criminally insane, thanks to PC and antisocial socialist brainwashing.
Antifa has gone too far with hydrochloric acid. In my opinion the plotters need to be arrested now, or the police need to use DEADLY FORCE once these people start throwing concentrated strong acid.
Have we ever had people like this in America before? Certainly not that I can remember. This is UNAMERICAN. What is WRONG with Oregon? What is WRONG with their governor? What is WRONG with Portland? What is WRONG with their mayor?
Are they taking LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE – a.k.a. LSD – a.k.a. “acid”? (Which is not even an “acid” at all, by the way.)
Or does PC actually have the power to make people mentally unbalanced?
Whatever is happening, Q is right. These people are SICK.
This FEAR NO EVIL FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what do we want to be able to tell our VSG?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q posted again, according to a reliable pattern (see if you see the same one I am seeing).
This is big. THIS is the main message, IMO. It is PSYCHOLOGICAL. It is IMMINENT. This is not “get ready” – you should have prepared ALREADY. This is BE READY.
I know I recycled an old “preparation” meme for the header, but that’s the one where, when it originally played, you should have “gotten ready”.
Yeah, there is likely time to fill the tanks and hit the grocery store, but BIG PREP should have been done by now.
Note that Q’s post is very subtle, almost BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, TIC, TOC, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN in a kind of “don’t pay attention to the person who has said all this stuff before” way.
You know what I’m sayin’? Good. “Pay attention to this one” is where I’m putting MY CHIPS.
Future comms, baby! Why? Because things are GOING DYNAMIC very soon. All that stuff Q talked about, about comms being shut down, messed with, and otherwise under attack – this is going to happen. We are going to have to GET DYNAMIC and FIGHT BACK.
HELL – it’s happening ALREADY! Just think about it. The Cabal tried to ratchet it up slowly, but it’s obvious that they’ve been turning the screws on us.
They are OPENLY MOVING AGAINST FREE SPEECH NOW. The FIRST AMENDMENT.
You see all this shit coming out now about what Silicon Valley was doing? Altering our fucking search results for POLITICAL CONTENT back to WELL before the 2016 election? Meddling on a scale that DWARFS what they even ALLEGE that Russia did!
DO YOU KNOW what this means? This means that “WE HAVE IT ALL” was watching this shit IN PROGRESS. This “breaking news” of MASSIVE ELECTION MEDDLING by Silicon Valley was KNOWN. “We have it all” had it all, brothers and sisters. They KNEW what kind of treason was being pulled. These LEFT TECH fuckers thought they were getting away with it.
I don’t see these progzi turds in Silicon Valley giving up. I don’t see them backing down. I see them having to be DRAGGED OUT IN CUFFS.
This TOTALITARIAN TECH TITAN TAMPERING TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
And a great thing that KMAG ain’t GAFA!!!
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Well, it looks like things are becoming very obvious now.
NOT ONLY did the Silicon Valley tech giants conspire against us by HELPING and USING the PHONY “Russian meddling” hoax (which Russia helped them create with little bits of second-order-influential garbage, but let’s set that aside for the moment) in a FAILED ATTEMPT to swing the 2016 election FOR Hillary Clinton and AGAINST Donald Trump…..
NOT ONLY did the Silicon Valley tech giants do innumerable OTHER THINGS to tilt the election FOR Hillary Clinton…..
NOT ONLY did Google’s Eric Schmidt CONSPIRE to create the “fake news” narrative against us, only to have his ASS HANDED BACK TO HIM BY OUR VSGPOTUS (and Sharyl Attkisson, too)….
(YOU’RE FAKE NEWS, ERIC!)
NOT ONLY are the Silicon Valley tech giants NOW conspiring against us in NEW and CUNNING ways, with stupid, ridiculous excuses to HIDE WHAT THEY ARE DOING……
NOT ONLY were my theories VINDICATED – those theories that BIG TECH MANAGEMENT and the CORRUPT OBAMA-CLINTON Intelligence Community used their PHONY intelligence story of “Russian bots” to SUPPRESS CONSERVATIVES….
NOT ONLY did these same people try to continue this shit to IMPEACH President Trump….
BUT….
My theory that globalist DISCRIMINATION against “native American” IT workers in favor of FOREIGNERS, Social Justice Warriors, and others who would GO ALONG WITH ALL THIS UNETHICAL SHIT for these crucial
Socialist Nation-Capture Elections (2016 and now 2020)
is now becoming
STARKLY APPARENT.
It was our own Deplorable Patriot who pointed it out in THIS LADY’S CASE, based on her ACCENT…..
THE OVER-HIRING AND MANIPULATION OF POLITICALLY BIASED AND NAIVE FOREIGNERS BY SILICON VALLEY BIG TECH MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH UNETHICAL GLOBALIST GOALS IS A FEATURE, NOT A BUG. pic.twitter.com/Sa8VXbwUwQ
This FAKEBOOK FALLS FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA KAG! world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Always be able to tell our VSG this POWER STATEMENT in TRUTH:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
If the tech giants want to censor political speech & advance a political viewpoint, fine. But then they should be treated like any other publisher
We need to move the #Section230 debate into the 21st century. Question is no longer how to encourage an infant industry. Question is whether the industry’s biggest, monopoly platforms can use 230 to stifle competition, censor speech, and invade privacy
This guy totally gets it. Silicon Valley is now a COMMUNIST THUG OPERATION, operating out of ENEMY TERRITORY in CHINA-OCCUPIED CALIFORNIA.
There was a point in time when people realized we needed to go after Section 230. I remember posting quite a bit about it. THAT was when we finally had some kind of idea WHERE to attack the beast. But BEFORE THAT, we merely recognized that something was WRONG with Silicon Valley, and they would have to be ORDERED not to censor – possibly even BROKEN UP.
Steve Bannon was the first on populism’s side to prominently suggest this. What was NOT obvious THEN, but is extremely obvious NOW, is that the left’s MASSIVE attacks against Steve Bannon began IMMEDIATELY AFTER he began talking “anti-trust” against Silicon Valley.
Now – after talking to Tonawanda today, I realize COMPLETELY how socialism in general, and Silicon Valley in particular, snuff out ideas that they don’t like – by a very stealthy campaign to keep the discussion level of that item below some critical value that THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO – now that I understand how Google and YouTube are actually run by RED DIAPER SOCIALIST THUGS – certain things make sense – that these organizations might “farm out” the silencing of viewpoints they don’t particularly want to reach whatever critical value they must not reach. And we all know that OUTSOURCING is actually a form of denial of “how it got done”. When “methods” have to be used – why – just outsource! Outsourcing – oddly enough – turns out to be a form of the MAMET PRINCIPLE – “pretending not to know”.
On July 30, 2017, I made the unknowingly risky decision to publish a piece SUPPORTING Steve Bannon’s “radical” and “unthinkable” idea of reining in Silicon Valley censorship. It was based on the idea that SOME kind of “information anti-trust” was fully in line with Trump’s form of populism – that this was almost DESTINY for the MAGA movement.
It was NOT HARD for me to figure out that, after ALL the left-provoking things I’ve risked over the Obama years, the FIRST EVER STAKING OUT of my lowly abode JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED to that little article, and the surprisingly warm reception it got. (Don’t trust the numbers on Twitter – more on that later.)
The intimidation actually got way worse, as in “classic thug type”, but there is no way that I, personally, can positively connect it to Silicon Valley. But I simply assume that the threat came from there. I stepped on SOMEBODY’S hedge fund.
I should note that whatever I or others did in response, it ended the problem. For a while.
Great Awakening, baby. Think they don’t use violence? Don’t think they use threats? Think again. The bogus staged Charlottesville incident (August 11-12) and the Las Vegas Massacre (October 1) followed shortly after this.
Followed – thankfully – by the firing of Treasonous McCabe and the deployment of QAnon, due to – in my opinion – militarily significant actions by the communists in conjunction with a politically motivated COUP ATTEMPT using the FBI and the Soviet American media.
Vegas was the last straw for “puttin’ up with the coup”. And I’m very glad people did what was needed after that, to end that bullshit.
Go on from there, to see how I was “awakened” to censorship at Twitter. This is actually a lot of fun to read, because in it, I am SPECULATING WILDLY about all sorts of stuff that we now know was not just true, but RIDICULOUSLY TRUE. Oh, man, that was fun.
From there, I eventually got on the “230” bus, almost a year later. Here is a nice thread:
The way to end social media censorship is to modify 47 U.S. Code § 230 (c) (1) (A) which is used to censor us.
The mod is that all PROVIDERS between any creator and any user must provide legal speech with an uninfringed FREE SPEECH PATH between the two.https://t.co/wB9XWRXN9V
Clearly, BANNON’S idea of actually CHALLENGING Silcon Valley took hold. Red Diaper Sergey and Google pulled back from China to Communist California, and – well – now we can see that….
IT TAKES A VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS ON THE INTERNET TO SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY OTHER VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS IN REAL LIFE.
Heck – I may just have a Sam Adams.
And ponder the beauty of my new favorite composite number, 230.
I have not read this post AT ALL. And I’m not going to read it. I’m going to publish it, and THEN READ IT.
WHY AM I DOING THIS, YOU MIGHT ASK.
It is very simple. I support free speech, and I am especially concerned about CENSORSHIP of viewpoints on vaccination. I am personally pro-vaccination, but I think that the anti-vaxxers have found a WEALTH of valid concerns that need to be addressed by a combination of objective and imaginative investigation, honest admission, political enlightenment, and consumer CHOICE.
The COMMUNISTS in America are NOT doing it right. The real question is WHY NOT?
Vaccines are a PRODUCT – not a CHEMICAL TATTOO that the state has a right to force upon our bodies. GET REAL. Vaccines need the FREE MARKET to prove their worth – not socialist coddling of substandard products to be forced upon us like poisonous Chinese dog treats.
If you are old enough to remember the vaccine SANITY that we had in America before the sabotage presidency of crypto-socialist BILL CLINTON and his horrible co-President wife Hillary Clinton, of WACO fame, then you realize that all of this CRAP about vaccines is utterly unnecessary.
Let us just GO BACK TO WHAT WORKED BEFORE COMMUNISM.
M-KAY?
NOW – I believe that Adam Schiff is starting a “war on anti-vaxxers” in preparation to “war on Trump’s base”. I will be posting more about this soon. But before that, I’m going to let some FREE SPEECH about vaccination happen HERE AND NOW.
Enjoy!
-WOLF MOON
Moar AND Logic — Vaccines
by Gail Combs
GENERAL COMMENT
Perhaps the hardest concept for Americans to learn is Our Ruling Class views us with contempt. They do not hate us. To hate you have to view a person as an equal. The Ruling Class does not consider us equals, some do not even consider us ‘human’!!! We are just ‘Human Resources’ for them to use as they please. Once you realize they view us as free range slaves or cattle (chattel) their inhumane treatment of us becomes comprehensible and this plays into their views on vaccination. As long as THEY make money and the ‘Human Resource’ losses are ‘acceptable’ they don’t care if we are injured or die.
This is the best overall explanation I have seen of what we face in America today:
“…No prominent Republican challenged the ruling class’s continued claim of superior insight, nor its denigration of the American people as irritable children who must learn their place. The Republican Party did not disparage the ruling class, because most of its officials are or would like to be part of it.
Never has there been so little diversity within America’s upper crust. Always, in America as elsewhere, some people have been wealthier and more powerful than others. But until our own time America’s upper crust was a mixture of people who had gained prominence in a variety of ways, who drew their money and status from different sources and were not predictably of one mind on any given matter….
Today’s ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters — speaking the “in” language — serves as a badge of identity….
The two classes have less in common culturally, dislike each other more, and embody ways of life more different from one another than did the 19th century’s Northerners and Southerners — nearly all of whom, as Lincoln reminded them, “prayed to the same God.” By contrast, while most Americans pray to the God “who created and doth sustain us,” our ruling class prays to itself as “saviors of the planet” and improvers of humanity. Our classes’ clash is over “whose country” America is, over what way of life will prevail, over who is to defer to whom about what….”
We have already noted the consolidation of the trans-national corporations.
Later in the year, on 08/26/2016 PeterStrzok texted “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…” Page replys “Yep….”
Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren certainly agrees and takes it a step further. He thinks it takes ” essential early socializing experiences”aka brainwashing to “ultimately develop into a human being.” GEE, does that mean IF you do not have the CORRECT ‘ socializing experiences’ you are not human?
Holdren, wrote on page 235 in “Human Ecology,” (1973) co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich.
The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,”
Michaelh made a comment on June 12, 2019 at 02:22 The interesting part of the comment is this:
….He told the other doctor he could solve his problem, but the other doc was skeptical. Later he saw the woman in question and she went on at length about the dangers of vaccines and all the information she had gathered online, listening to her intently and patiently the whole time. At the end of it he asked a simple question, “Have you considered whether the anti-vax information you have is a Chinese and Russian disinformation campaign designed to weaken the United States’ populace?” She experienced a mind-blown moment. He said after that she came with all of her children ever single time right on the vax schedule….
Please note this doctor DID NOT ADDRESS the core problem — the perceived dangers of vaccines — Instead he substituted one FEAR for another FEAR.
So let’s back-up and ask the questions that doctor did not address. WHY would the woman have:
#1. Distrust in the US government
#2. Distrust in the pharmaceutical companies
#3. Does her fear have a solid foundation?
Unfortunately, as we have seen over the last seven decades, the US government IS the Enemy of the American People. (see Codevilla’s article linked above) So the woman’s ‘Fear’ of the intentions of the US Government has a solid foundation. She can not trust that the government has HER best interests and NOT the best interests of the vaccine manufactures at heart when decisions are made.
….Results Fifty-seven published clinical trials were identified for which an FDA inspection of a trial site had found significant evidence of 1 or more of the following problems: falsification or submission of false information, 22 trials (39%); problems with adverse events reporting, 14 trials (25%); protocol violations, 42 trials (74%); inadequate or inaccurate recordkeeping, 35 trials (61%); failure to protect the safety of patients and/or issues with oversight or informed consent, 30 trials (53%); and violations not otherwise categorized, 20 trials (35%). Only 3 of the 78 publications (4%) that resulted from trials in which the FDA found significant violations mentioned the objectionable conditions or practices found during the inspection. No corrections, retractions, expressions of concern, or other comments acknowledging the key issues identified by the inspection were subsequently published.
Conclusions and Relevance When the FDA finds significant departures from good clinical practice, those findings are seldom reflected in the peer-reviewed literature, even when there is evidence of data fabrication or other forms of research misconduct….
The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses….
On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences….
I remember when this information hit the news and I was appalled. I have worked as a QC Engineer in Drug manufacture. There is NO WAY IN HADES this should have happened. WHY? Because you LABEL EVERYTHING and it is double signed off when raw materials are withdrawn from the warehouse by manufacturing to PREVENT this type of mistake.
“Biochemist Brian Hooker, scientific advisor to A Shot of Truth, reveals CDC knew of risks for over a decade.”
February 19, 2014
For nearly ten years, Brian Hooker has been requesting documents that are kept under tight wraps by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). His more than 100 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests have resulted in copious evidence that the vaccine preservative Thimerosal, which is still used in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and infants, can cause autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders.
Dr. Hooker, a PhD scientist, worked with two members of Congress to craft the letter to the CDC that recently resulted in his obtaining long-awaited data from the CDC, the significance of which is historic. According to Hooker, the data on over 400,000 infants born between 1991 and 1997, which was analyzed by CDC epidemiologist Thomas Verstraeten, MD, “proves unequivocally that in 2000, CDC officials were informed internally of the very high risk of autism, non-organic sleep disorder and speech disorder associated with Thimerosal exposure.”….
…“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” —(Marcia Angell, MD, “Drug Companies and Doctors: A story of Corruption.” NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.)
Here is another quote of a similar nature, also published in the NY Review of Books (May 12, 2001, Helen Epstein, “Flu Warning: Beware of Drug Companies”):
“Six years ago, John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, found that nearly half of published articles in scientific journals contained findings that were false.”…
So I hope these articles establish the fact this woman had a solid foundation for her concerns and the doctor’s default to ‘BLAME IT ON RUSSIA’ would be funny if it was not so serious.
Do you really think these Mega-corporations, who PAY the doctors, ACTUALLY CARE if a certain percentage of children are crippled or die from their vaccines? Don’t you think the Elite would LIKE to see American girls made sterile and more people on the government dole to aid the Cloward–Piven strategy?
What the Mega-corporations care about is MONEY and they have that all fixed up.
….No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, solely due to the manufacturer’s failure to provide direct warnings to the injured party (or the injured party’s legal representative) of the potential dangers resulting from the administration of the vaccine manufactured by the manufacturer….
The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be given to the public before full data on its safety and effectiveness become available, doctors confirmed yesterday…..But, unlike seasonal flu vaccine, the pandemic version will be spread over two doses in a higher quantity, and one brand is expected to contain a chemical additive to make it go further, potentially increasing the risk of side-effects.http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/safety-questions-over-swine-flu-jab-1751547.html
“On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by governmentwhen companies could have made a safer vaccine…. From now on, drug companies selling vaccines in America will not be held accountable… The only difference is that three decades ago, government officials were ordering doctors to give children 23 doses of 7 vaccines and, today, that direct order is up to 70 doses of 16 vaccines.”NVIC link
[Wolfie can you include a screen shot of the chart for Birth to 15 Months please?]
Here you go!
Wolf
First I am NOT a doctor and I do not have human kids. Mine are goats kids and lambs. However we are all mammals so at least some information applies across species.
Starting with newborns: Colostrum definition: A sticky white or yellow fluid secreted by the mammary glands after giving birth, rich in antibodies. The antibodies absorbed by the newborn protect against systemic invasion by pathogens while antibodies that are not absorbed play an important role in protection against intestinal disease.
The small intestine is lined with immature cells which are capable of absorbing macromolecules. Immunoglobulins ( antibodies) can not transmission across the placenta of the mother to the fetus. Instead the Immunoglobulins in the Colostrum is absorbed in the small intestine and thereafter transported to the blood. “The absorption of immunoglobulins has dropped to a relatively low level after 24-36 hours.” — The importance of colostral immunoglobulins and their absorption from the intestine of the newborn animalsfrom the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine
Vaccination: Kid goats that had passive immunity from immunized dams, don’t get their CD/T vaccination until 8 weeks and again at 11-12 weeks. My vet doesn’t recommend doing it earlier. HOWEVER If the kid didn’t receive its mom’s colostrum or if the doe didn’t get vaccination a month or so before birth, you should vaccinate the kid at the age of 1 to 3 weeks and again three to four weeks later. (And PRAY)
Sheep 201: Flock vaccinations written by Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist at the University of Maryland’s Western Maryland Research & Education Center in Keedysville, Maryland.
… Passive immunity Vaccines are not very successful in young lambs, 1-2 months of age. For this reason, vaccination strategies recommend vaccinating pregant ewe to confer passive immunity to the lambs through the colostrum (dam’s first milk). Ewes should be vaccinated with the CDT toxoid approximately 4 weeks prior to lambing. Ewes lambing for the first time will need to be vaccinated twice in late pregnancy, four weeks apart. Maternal antibodies will protect lambs for six to eight weeks so long as lambs consumed adequate amounts of colostrum. It is recommended that a lamb consume 10 percent of its body weight in colostrum.
Lambs Lambs should receive their first clostridal vaccination when they are approximately 6 to 8 weeks of age, followed by a booster 4 weeks later. If pastured animals are later brought into confinement or dry lot for concentrate feeding, a third vaccination should be given. Some experts recommended giving artifically-reared lambs multiple vaccinations.
Lambs whose dams were not vaccinated for C and D can be vaccinated with some success at two to three days of age and again in two weeks. However, later vaccinations will likely be more effective, as colostral antibodies usually interfere with vaccinations at very young ages. The lamb’s immature immune system may also not be able to respond to vaccination at such a young age.
Lambs and goats are usually weaned at 2 to 3 months, horses at 4 to 6 months. Lambs and goats live to mid teens, horses into there 20s and 30s. Human babies are weaned naturally sometime between 2 and 4 years of age. Humans live into their 70s and 80s. Animals are usually vaccinated AFTER they are weaned!
Last recommendation: ” Each producer must weights the pros and cons of vaccinating for a specific disease. If the cost of vaccination exceeds the expected losses, then vaccination is probably not cost-effective….The risk of a diseases outbreak should be the criteria that is used to determine the need for vaccination.” — Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist Translation: Check with your vet/ vet school on what diseases are around your area and ALWAYS limit the exposure of your animals. If you show have separate quarantine areas for show animals also for animals you are newly introducing to the farm. …
What is the take home from all of this? 1. QUARRANTINE IMMIGRANTS don’t bring the disease into the country in the first place. Since our traitorous government refuses to do this, do as much as you can to limit your exposure and your children’s exposure especially for the very young. (I hate seeing infants at a daycare as I did yesterday.)
2. MOM should receive the vaccinations not the New Born.
3. MOM should breast feed during the first few days to pass immunity to her baby even if she does not plan to continue breastfeeding. Try to stay home with your infant or use a private individual (like grand parent) for your very young baby instead of a commercial daycare. This limits disease exposure and thus need for very early vaccination.
4. Infant vaccination is a poor second for nature’s Colostrum and very early vaccination is needed only if Mom has not past immunity on to the infant via Colostrum AND can not manage quarantine conditions. (Why my bottle lambs were in the kitchen and are even now in a quarantined area instead of with the sheep.)
I have also been warned by my vet that the vaccines for multiple diseases are not a smart idea. Spacing the vaccinations of individual diseases works MUCH better.
PDJT had strong opinions on timing of vax shots for his children, just as these parents did.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5RkmLsXoAE4kle.jpg
There you have it. Please feel free to comment in any way you see fit. WE – unlike everybody else in socialist media – have free speech. Moreover, it is not MY JOB to determine what is “misinformation”. That is YOUR JOB.
W
FREE AS IN THE FREE FALL OF THE SOCIALIST MEDIA AND FAKE NEWS INTO A TRAP OF THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION
Yes. There is a DIFFERENT place called “Parlor” that the Cabal is trying to get people to go to instead of Parler. It even gets favored in search engines and app stores. I have no idea who is behind Parlor, but it’s probably GOOLAG, the CHICOMS, the WOCOMMIE SISTERS, or the KGB-CIA. *** AVOID ***
Only PARLER with an “E” is dedicated to FREE SPEECH.
By the way, I love saying WOCOMMIE SISTERS. It sounds like a BAD BAND.
If you type your REAL NAME into any field in social media (such as “Gab” or “WordPress” or “Parler”) that says “Name”, you risk people seeing that name.
In fact, if you use your REAL NAME in ANY WAY in connection to a social media account, you risk being “doxxed”.
So if your email address is myrealname@company.com, then any HACKER of the site knows that YOU own the account.
You MAY or MAY NOT be comfortable with that.
On Parler (formerly pronounced “par-LAY”, now pronounced “PAR-luhr”) you can create an account that is “really you”, and you can get verified as being really you. But you don’t have to do that if you want to remain anonymous.
For POLITICS, I suggest you remain anonymous. To do that, don’t use your real name. Use a name like:
First Name: Joe
Last Name: Smith
User Name: joe_smith
It doesn’t have to be real. It could be:
First Name: MAGA
Last Name: CHICK
User Name: AwesomeMagaChick73
Then, use an email address that is not OBVIOUSLY you.
Are we clear about this?
If you actually associate your REAL NAME with an account, even if it’s “supposed to be hidden”, there is a RISK that – SOMEHOW – your real name, and not your USER NAME, will be released. It could be by hacking, by accidental release of the information (you check a box that says “Show my name” and it means your NAME and not your USER NAME), or just by you not understanding that when people go to your profile, they will see your name.
Please also note that Parler obeys AMERICAN laws about privacy, speech, and all that other stuff – not European laws.
If any of this is STILL confusing to you – the idea that if you put your real name into a social media product (meaning it’s on the internet) – that other people might see it somehow – then I suggest not doing anything new at this time.
Otherwise, I suggest that you NEVER type any personal information into a computer that you use for politics on the internet. NEVER. Using that rule, work out everything else, and only the intelligence agencies and who they support (such as the American communists and/or DNC) will know who you are. Because they have ALREADY stolen that information.
W
/ end warning
By the way, our VSGPOTUS Trump is not on PARLER yet, but I am starting to think it’s inevitable, so GET ON PARLER NOW!!!
Assuming that you understand this warning, I then suggest that you use the same handle (meaning USER NAME) you’ve been using on Twitter and/or Gab and/or WordPress, simply because it makes you easier to find for your FRIENDS.
However, if you want maximum security, then you can always use a completely different user name. The choice is yours.
NOW – finally – to the point of this thread.
If you are on Parler, please add your Parler handle (spelled exactly) in the comments. We are NOT using Parler for reorganization, because GAB is more robust and “commie-proof”. However, you are likely getting OFF Twitter and ONTO Parler, and we can share our Parler user names here.
Mine is the same on Parler as it is on Twitter and Gab: WOLFM00N with two zeroes in m00n.
You can sign up there. Follow the directions – it’s all very easy. You ONLY NEED AN EMAIL ADDRESS. But I strongly suggest deciding things BEFORE you go there:
what email address you will use
what name you will use
what user name / handle you will use
what password you will use
how you will remember your password
how you will remember which email address
Don’t pick stuff you are going to forget. THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM I see in users of social media is people picking obscure stuff and forgetting. DON’T DO THAT. Write stuff down if you have to.
Then start by going to my handle or somebody else you know. Look through my followers, and who I am following. You will see people you know. FOLLOW THEM!!!
And you are OFF TO THE RACES!!!
W
a.k.a. wolfmoon1776 on WordPress, wolf_moon on Disqus, WOLFM00N everywhere else.
This THINKING ABOUT THINGS ON THURSDAY THE THIRTEENTH open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
And it would be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
I believe these Silicon Valley people who are censoring us see the world in a completely different way than we do. I believe they no longer actually care what we think.
I am starting to think that they are actually BLIND to many kinds of thought. They have LOST DISCERNMENT.
Their BRAINS have not resisted some process that WE HAVE. Just like Icke describes.
I am reminded of an episode of the New Outer Limits called “Stream of Consciousness”:
The opening and closing narrations are worth reading.
We quantify our world in order to learn. We break it down into facts, numbers, information. But how far dare we go before we destroy its mystery?
We make tools to extend our abilities, to further our reach, and fulfill our aspirations. But we must never let them define us. For if there is no difference between tool and maker, then who will be left to build the world?
I don’t know the answers to these questions. Nor do I know if, when, or how these questions will be answered. However, I believe that WE have questions that THEY are not even willing to admit are valid questions, much less answer.
Most importantly, I believe that our technological elite lack fundamental moral principles needed to safely do what they are doing. Their moral blind spots are dangerous. The technology they create – with baked-in error – will become dangerous – to itself and everything else.
That’s OK. WE have the Base Designer to fall back on. And we have a FIXER in the White House, too. With God, all FIXES are possible!
Whaddya mean Bernie Sanders is trying to sell me on Socialism?
Woke up this morning and flipped on the news. First story was about a survey of how socialism is gaining traction among women. What? Makes no sense! Contradiction in philosophy. How are women supposed to be modern, strong, make their own decisions, independent…. yet want to be taken care of…. not by a man…. but by the state? Too proud to compromise with a husband to make a successful marriage…. yet willing to sell their souls and become passive…. to the state? Women don’t like being trapped in oppressive households and relationships. Ladies, be careful what you wish for.
Socialism is a bad idea for men and women…….. but it’s even worse for women, and all of us should know better.
I read Bernie’s platform in 2016 and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America (DCA). If you have not read it, give it a try. It’s a contract for your life, and you should read it before signing up…… Bottom line, DCA/Bernie/AOC and her buddies advocate for government control of healthcare, banking, and all energy. Anyone who’s gone beyond an 8th grade education understands this is a bad idea…. that is….if we want to be free.
Everyone who has ever had their heart broken, especially women, should easily understand this conundrum. Nothing is ever ALL sunshine and rainbows. Without the rain, there are no flowers. Without ugly, there is no beauty. Without money, there are no great shoes…..
The problem is, socialism isn’t all gimme, gimme, gimme….. free college, better wages, guaranteed jobs, and life as a special rainbow unicorn in utopia. It’s a trade-off. No one talks about what we have to give up…. to get the “free” stuff. The politicians never mention the bad parts. WHAT college will the politician ALLOW you to go to? WHO will select YOUR job, YOUR career (because there will be a bureaucrat and a test to take in order to decide your career path)? WHAT will you be allowed to eat? HOW many children will YOU be allowed to have……. if any? WHERE will YOU be ALLOWED to live? It won’t be YOUR choice…. a bureaucrat will make the decision. With socialism, those days of “choices” are gone. Let’s not be stupid, here.
With capitalism, we have to work for and earn what we receive. What are you willing to do? We all want to be trim and fit, but are you willing to exercise and eat well?
We all want to be loved, but are you willing to invest in relationships, compromise, forgive, and heaven forbid, occasionally admit to being wrong? Could you relinquish your position even when you know you’re right? Because to be loved and in a relationship will take a LOT of capitulation….. for both parties. Or is it easier for you to get a dog/cat… where you can always be right?
We all want to be rich, but are you willing to forego instant gratification, work endless hours to develop your product or idea, buck the trends and your friends, remain determined……. even after you may fail multiple times? Could you do it? Or would you rather have “rich” fall into your lap…. easily.
Think about it. What are you willing to “give” in order to “take”, because there is always a trade-off.
Bigger questions….. What would make you happy? Does controlling others make YOU happy? Do YOU really think you would be one of those in power in a socialist system? I’m laughing…. some people assume they will be…… Do you have realistic expectations? What makes YOU so special? Why shouldn’t your neighbor be in charge of what YOU can have?
Would being rich, loved, or handsome/beautiful make you happy…… or is it really something else which is makes you angry, driving you, makes you restless, causes your fear? And most importantly, WHEN do you answer those questions? When you’re 20? 30? 60? Or never….. Do you die with that baggage because it’s too hard to ask those questions? Look around, how many people do you know who live….. and die…… with a chip on their shoulder? Wow, what a burden to carry.
Aubergine said something yesterday or day before and it made my blood run cold. In a personal moment, she spoke of her mother being incredibly manipulative. The relationship with her mother caused her great pain, but taught her to stay away from people like her mother. She learned. I didn’t wish for the pain of Aubergine’s experience as a child, but oh, how I was jealous to not learn the lesson earlier in my life….. because it would have saved a great deal of pain in my life. And right there, I was guilty. I wished for Aubergine’s knowledge/experience……. without the trade-off of pain, and the wisdom with comes from the pain.
Nothing is ever free. What’s the trade-off? Yin and Yang. Equal and opposite reactions. Cause and effect. A free and easy life promised by politicians……no problems….. …sunshine and rainbows…… at no personal cost…… you’ve got to be kidding………. Who believes this crap?
The promise of socialism is so fake, so obvious, it’s like trying to sell a diet of doughnuts and beer, to ensure the body of a supermodel or the Diet Coke guy. It reminds me of Hallmark movies, where the young girl’s absent father reappears and he’s really a prince….. and sweeps away the young girl and her forlorn/bitter mother to a faraway European Castle. Yet, the Hallmark fairy tales edit out teenage pimples, all the overdue bills, mom working two jobs, many nights of tears at 2:00am, and the girl not being popular in school.
Socialism is a fairytale. Grow up.
Today, too many people are buying what slick politicians are selling. They believe in the fairytale, take the easy path, the short cut to whatever we want…. It’s even better for politicians because they control the process…. Take the money and nice lifestyle from someone else… who earned it = socialism. The socialists rationalize their behavior, “They have to pay their fair share.”, but when do YOU do your fair share of the work? What are you willing to give up?
Healthcare
With the ACA, women who are beyond child-bearing years, and women who never want children, lesbians, those who are sterile, still pay a higher healthcare premium because maternity coverage is mandated by ACA. Is it worth an extra $200/month to you? Cuz you’re paying for it. A bureaucrat made the decision and YOU have no choice.
The interest on all student loans was raised from 3-6% to 6-9% because the government makes money on student loans, about $42 billion a year…. and the earnings help to subsidize healthcare. With an average student loan of $25K, the increase of about 3% is costing YOU about $75/month extra. Is it worth it? Cuz you’re paying for it. Did you think just the rich people were paying taxes? Hahaaaa. A bureaucrat made the decision.
Yes it is noble to advocate for healthcare for the poor but let’s look at what we have to give up……. the trade-off. Yes, our system failed as those with serious illness were driven to bankruptcy because of healthcare costs but this particular problem has not yet been addressed. Yet, the ACA wrecked healthcare for the VAST majority of Americans, no choice of physician, led to part-time jobs, and spiraling premiums (mine is up 400% and I still go out of network, pay cash, cross a state line, to visit our family doctor)…. cuz the insurance companies were guaranteed a 15% profit. Gee, who wouldn’t want to be in a business with a guaranteed profit…… with no cost reduction measures as part of the deal. Who represented the American people for such bad contract? Ahhh, yes, it was the Dems, the precursor to socialized medicine.
Limited choices and more expense. Any 8th grader would reject it. Women with a student loan are paying about $275/month more = trade-off.
Banking
Why would anyone think it would be a good idea for a government to take over our banking sector. Are they kidding? The answer from the American left to the Crash of 2008 was Elizabeth Warren’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, February 21, 2011. The Obama/Holder DOJ didn’t prosecute anyone for the Crash of 2008. No one went to jail. We got the crash of 2008 because the government thought they could regulate housing and EVERYONE deserved a house. How did that work out?
Tell me, who has benefitted from the CFPB? My little bank used to spend $300K a year in compliance costs. After CFPB, they spend about $2 million/yr. It’s less money for car loans, kitchen remodels, small biz expansion…. and less employees in the bank. How was the CFPB good? We still have loan shark pay-day loan businesses and exorbitant credit card interest for those who can least afford it. Ahhhhh, that’s right, the CFPB doesn’t answer to Congress…. so we’re really not sure.
The CFPB fined banks for billions of dollars (12 billion so far) ( Link ) and is allowed to redistribute funds to “community organizations” which have a loose connection to those who were allegedly harmed. So the CFPB is really just a money train, taking money from banks…… and makes the cost of banking rise, for every American. Did you know, the CFPB has fielded 720K complaints since 2011……. which are public so anyone can make a wild claim, but the same database already existed at the FTC (which is private and adjudicated). It’s a dual effort…… yet the CFPB does employ another 12K people at government expense.
Duplicate agencies, the CFPB with no accountability to Congress, waste of taxpayer dollars…….. no, the 8th grader says, “NO!”. The 12 billion + cost of 12K workers = 13.74billion/150 million adult Americans = It cost you $91.60/year for a duplicate agency OR an amount equal to about 1/4 of the entire budget for the Dept of Education.
Energy
The idea of our government taking over the energy sector is scary. Even with Obama’s sluggish economy, the PRIVATE oil sector created fracking and a boom began, employing millions. We also recall the $6,000/gallon biofuel the Obama Administration insisted upon for the US Military, and the $7000 per car subsidy for electric cars. Billions upon billions were lost to “invest” in renewables and sustainable energy, and no socialist cared about children in the Congo mining Cobalt for 14 hours a day. Advances in nuclear energy were ignored. Coal production was all but shut down for “climate change” while the Chinese built 5 coal plants a month ….. because the bureaucrat in charge picked favorites. The Trump Admin came to office and 60K coal miners went back to work…. supplying clean coal plants….. reducing our energy bills and giving us more options for energy. We even export coal, decreasing our trade deficit. The USA is often referred to as the OPEC of coal. Who walks away from #1 status?
Those of us who are old enough to remember the OPEC embargo of the 70’s recall the humiliation of Americans standing in line, our economy brought to a standstill, because Middle Eastern Countries would not sell us oil. I was young but shocked a country as powerful as our’s could be brought to our knees. Well, under the Trump Administration, we’re now the #1 Oil and LNG producer in the world. A competent government would have addressed the problem much sooner.
Even if we were to assume Global Warming is the dire problem the DCA believes it is, we know Petroleum forms the base of thousands of products. Petroleum is also in the top three trade items of every single country on earth. It makes economic sense, and sound national security policy, to be a global leader in the petroleum industry…… unless you’re an ideologue who is a member of the DCA.
My fictional 8th grader took a look at this partial list of 6,000 items made with petroleum. The 8th grader wants to keep these items and is not willing to give up petroleum production…. even for the promise of freebies in a perfect world with sunshine and rainbows. My guess is …… the women who THINK they want socialism would reject such an ugly, smelly, dirty, socialist utopia.
Take A Look At The List of Petroleum Products
Even for shallow self-absorbed females……. Without nail polish, shampoo, makeup, lipstick, sunglasses, toothpaste, hair curlers, sweaters, dresses, perfumes, soap, purses, shoes, and deodorant…. no woman would want to live in such a world. (Link )
Nah, the women who run businesses and need caulking, diesel, floorwax, coolers, ammonia, chemicals, …….. and our lipstick…. will stick with capitalism.
With Socialism, we have no choices. The bureaucrats decide what we should do and we’re too independent now. The trade-off is too steep, the cost to high. We’ll keep our freedom. Maybe we should start walking or running to lose a few pounds and/or be happy with the way we look. Yes, we could probably figure out a way to save $5/day, and accumulate a little nest egg. And that guy around the corner, who worships the ground we walk on…… he’s willing to compromise and meet us halfway. Maybe, we should give him a chance.
Socialism wants to assure equality of all people. No one poor, but no one exceptional either. Why try? Why innovate? Why be a leader? Why defend anyone? Pretty soon…. we wouldn’t even “want” or “hope” anymore…. because everything we did want would not be allowed by bureaucrats.
This TO STOP THEM FROM STOPPING OUR MOVEMENT TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
It would also be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
MAGA Mom had a most excellent summary of something that has happened.
Don’t BLAMECAST about it – please – that just feeds into it. But I want people here to understand what has happened. MAGA Mom did the NUMBERS and they explain something.
Let me recap and see if I have a grasp on the situation:
1) Thread on actual censorship, deplatforming and silencing conservative voices, groups & opinions: 61 comments
2) Open Thread: huge debate on being nice and self censoring, name calling, humor v. growing a thicker skin, etc.: 80+ (as I stopped counting) & 27 comments on this topic on this page so far
Hmmm…priorities??? distractions???
Think about where we are spending our time, our energy and our focus, our combined brain power!
I am not saying I am upset with BakoCarl for starting the debate (or anyone else, for that matter!) or that the topic is unimportant. I happen to agree to an extent in huge part because I think certain name calling is distracting and ineffective. Whether it is nice or not I will leave up to others as my mission is not to be “nice” but to MAGA as I said in my comment on the previous page and name calling or disparaging people on physical characteristics or on being gay/lesbian is a turn off to many and therefore decreases our effectiveness as we loose audience to truth and facts re political candidates and issues.
My point is, So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do. Why!?! What should be our actual focus right now?! We need to spend as much time analyzing, sharing facts, links, researching, synergysing on possible political action as we do sharing our feelings and opinions.
Let’s harness our brainpower and put at least as much time and thought into the censorship being implemented by others as we do on self censorship & appropriate names and criticism for our political opponents.
And Please don’t tell me that I am just being sensitive as I have fibromyalgia and would feel that you are being mean as well as ridiculing and belittling all of those in my condition if you associate negative connotations with sensitivity. 😉
Now – if I even talk about any of this stuff, to some extent that action falls, MOST IRONICALLY, into what MAGA Mom is talking about. And when I was posting about this stuff earlier – YES – it was exactly what she is talking about.
And LET ME TELL YOU THIS – which REALLY PROVES what she is talking about.
I have been intending for SEVERAL DAYS to talk about the NEXT PHASE OF CENSORSHIP.
I have critical information about this. I tried to do a BIG POST to explain it earlier, and got all kinds of bandwidth problems that made me lose EVERYTHING. I think I ended up calling it “Placeholder Friday” in frustration, publishing a near-empty daily thread.
So I was going to fix it on Monday. But no. I spent all day on a sideshow, much of which was (ironically) MY OWN DOING. Yes. I was – you might say, “Sideshow Wolf”! 😀
HOWEVER, TheseTruths responded by stating something very important which captures why I have wasted my time on stuff I didn’t really want to do:
“So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do.”
This topic IS about the political enemy and their methods and what we need to do. A number of the posts, including mine, have pointed out that they are trying to suppress our free speech with demands of political correctness and censorship. It doesn’t hurt to be reminded of that and have a heightened awareness so we don’t get inadvertently sucked in to their schemes. That kind of psychological preparedness is part of the battle.
This is exactly correct. We ARE in the censorship fight, and BY GOD, IT’S ON OUR SOIL.
Bluntly, we are taking one on the chin – but we are taking it well. Look at it that way. We have an actual demonstration of how they cannot effectively undermine us, but they CAN get us to undermine ourselves.
This is why I was forced to warn people about how the other side will DESPERATELY try to shut us down, shut us up, and make us ineffective, by influence – EXPERT influence – on individual members. Stuff you will likely not recognize, and may NEVER recognize.
And I will NOT let it happen. So I had to inform you about CRUEL REALITIES OF THIS WORLD.
I had to WARN PEOPLE. Because I know what’s coming, and it’s UGLY.
The other side is spending MILLIONS OF DOLLARS – ON THE GROUND – IN REAL LIFE – to shut our side up. RIGHT NOW. I am literally WATCHING THEM do it. LITERALLY. The White Hats know *exactly* what I’m talking about.
Remember what they did to JIM JORDAN in Ohio? That cost them millions of dollars and ultimately FAILED, but you can bet that a shitload (pardon my French) of money was spent to INFLUENCE PEOPLE to make that happen. Individuals. Influenced, positioned, and manipulated. Using LAWYERS. Expensive LAWYERS.
And lawyers, psychologists, and even rat-bastard communists in beater junkie stake-out cars cost money.
They are doing it now. EVERYWHERE. And some of that money is designated to influence YOU. So think very carefully about what the social media puts in front of you, because THEY THINK ABOUT IT VERY CAREFULLY.
Twitter is so much more than you think it is. The DEVIL is in details of CODE that HIDE from oversight or legal discovery.
Most of it is programmed – automated – but not all of it. When they see a point where the economics of influencing specific people needs a human touch, it gets a human touch.
Here is a TIP. They love to use OLD PEOPLE, SICK PEOPLE, and PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. Those people are very real, and very deserving of our sympathy and help.
BUT….
Your response makes you PREDICTABLE. And that is all they need.
“Wounded hostage ambush.” I use this analogy all the time, because they use this method all the time.
We are at WAR. So when you go to the hospital, wear an invisible AR-15 on your back. Wear your SPIRIT GUN and watch the fuck out. Because they are watching you.
Now – I close with a VICTORY. We had a big win today.
Not here – but where it COUNTS BIG.
BREAKING: Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) has resigned from the House Freedom Caucus after calling for President Donald Trump's impeachment, says he “didn’t want to be a further distraction for the group.”
This THINKING ABOUT TIGHTENING THINGS DOWN THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what is it that we tell our VSG/ESG President Trump?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
SO – where do I begin?
Let’s try THE END this time.
I am going to be doing things to LOCK DOWN THE SITE as we go into battle here – both for DECLAS and for the 2020 election.
So – WHY am I saying this?
I believe that we are being HACKED, but it’s not simply the OLD-FASHIONED “cyber” way. I believe that much of it is SOCIAL HACKING. I believe it is all coordinated with rather brilliant social hacking at CTH as well.
Thus, I will be taking broad SOCIAL MEASURES to keep the socialists. Satanists, Soviets, Chi-spies, and other allied CYBER-TRASH out of our site.
To begin decontamination procedures, I will be encouraging THREE THINGS:
(1) Forgiveness toward any BUTTHURT we may feel toward CTH. Once you realize that a very sophisticated social hacking, which relied on common cyber-spoofing techniques as well, was used against BOTH OUR SITES, then you can LET THE FORGIVENESS FLOW.
One of the primary goals of our enemies is to get us to fight with CTH. NOPE. Not gonna happen. We have to make these enemies BURN IN THEIR ANGER that they won’t be able to accomplish what they want to do.
The other side has tried to LEVERAGE the pain and suffering of Patrick Henry Censored to harm BOTH CTH and this site. It’s what they do. Think about what Q says, and realize that THIS is exactly what he’s talking about.
(2) Giving out your email address. DON’T. It can be used to help IMPERSONATE YOU.
(3) Registration with WordPress. This relates to points ONE and TWO. We need to begin LOCKING DOWN THE SITE against the techniques that have been used for social and mixed social/cyber hacking. Because non-registration allows quite a bit of shenanigans, that is PRECISELY why many people here have been SCARED INTO NOT REGISTERING – and moreover to themselves become advocates of not registering.
See how that works? It’s a rather beautiful scam. The enemies of this site shilled people here very hard not to register with WordPress, precisely so that they could keep options for social hacks open AGAINST those people.
I will not be closing this door on “email members” immediately – but I will DEFINITELY be closing that door before the 2020 election. Probably sooner.
More information will come out as needed. Don’t worry about it right now, but do start getting used to the idea. Also remember this. I will be telling you WHY we need to do this in more detail, and trust that those details are going to made a difference in how you feel about registration.
Thanks, and talk to you more about this in a week or two.