Dear KAG: 20241112 Open Thread

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The End of History Delusion

Badlands News Brief – November 11, 2024

I worked on Kamala Harris’s campaign – and this is why it turned out to be an utter shambles

Lawfare Operatives at DOJ are Panicked About What President Donald Trump Will Do Inside Main Justice

Too bad. So sad.

President Trump Asks for Confirmation Support from Senate Leadership

President Trump Appoints Tom Homan to Position of “Border Czar” in Charge of Deportation Program

A familiar face returning.

President Trump Names Stephen Miller as Deputy Chief of Policy for Term 2

Another familiar face returning. No book deals here.

President Trump Nominates Elise Stefanik to be U.S Ambassador to the United Nations

New face, but not one MAGA to which MAGA will object.

National Security Pathology Report – America Faces a Cancer of Unknown Primary Origin

Chaos Conductors

The Costco butter disaster illustrates why big government must go

Mike Waltz, China Hawk Reported to Become Trump’s National Security Adviser

Border Patrol agents’ morale soars after Trump’s re-election: ‘Through the roof’

Yes, even San Francisco swung toward Trump. These voters drove the shift

There might be hope for California after all.

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1855313138318766129

@GenFlynn

The State of Arizona has become the poster child for election fraud. If those involved are caught in any fraudulent activity, they will likely be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Stop this nonsense of counting until the outcome is in your favor. That’s what Venezuela does, NOT America!

@KariLake won!

https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1855558059860386185

@newstart_2024

Important… Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: “The thing that people have to understand is that the four companies that make all 72 of those vaccines, which is Pfizer, Glaxo, Merck and Sanofi. All of those companies are convicted felons. And not only that, they’re serial felons. Their business model is committing felonies.” “These companies in the last 10 years collectively, have paid $35 billion in penalties, damages, fines for falsifying science, for defrauding regulators, lying to doctors, and for killing hundreds of thousands of people. Vioxx, which was Merck’s flagship product, killed between 120,000 and 500,000 Americans. This was a pill. And Merck was selling as a headache pill.” “And Merck knew, caused heart attacks and killed people. And they didn’t tell anybody. And they knew a certain, you know, we got the spreadsheets that showed there being counters, their accountants. And this is, you’re gonna kill so many people per dose. We can still make more money, even if they all sue us. And in the end, they killed, you know, up to half a million Americans. And they got away with it.” “They paid $7 billion in fines. Nobody went to jail. And this is, you know. They probably made $100 million in profits. Yeah. So this is a company, these, it requires kind of a cognitive dissonance to believe that these companies that are lying and cheating on every other pharmaceutical product, every other medical device that they create, are somehow found Jesus vaccines and aren’t lying to us.” “And the thing is with vaccines, vaccines are the only place they could never get caught because it’s illegal in this country to sue a vaccine company. So Congress passed a law in 1986 that said no matter how negligent that company is, no matter how malicious they are, no matter how toxic the product, you no matter how grievous or injury you cannot sue them.”

https://twitter.com/777katemt/status/1855639002227097982

https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1855316833533849961

https://twitter.com/lakemonstercl1/status/1855426970118508974

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1855798166777430360

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1855976535947137439

@DC_Draino

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The Visa/MC credit card monopoly has put Americans into excessive debt with usurious interest rates at 25%+ President Trump wants a 10% cap on all credit card interest rates JD Vance co-sponsored the Credit Card Competition act which fights the 2-4% hidden tax you pay every time you swipe Common sense is back Let’s get people out of debt, eliminate hidden taxes, and make america wealthy again

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WOAH, This is a man still on the ground in Western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene. He’s talking to victims and they’re having their land purchased out from under them for $2,500 He says it’s definitely a land grab for the lithium and quartz mining “Buying the land wholesale everywhere. Not just Chimney Rock, not just Spruce Pine, not just where the mine is going to be. They’re buying up in Burnsville, they’re buying up in Waynesville, everywhere where somebody lost their entire home, the government is confiscating the land and giving them a $2,500 check.” “It’s a state-wide land grab. And then the news, the local news just reported that Governor Roy, good old Democrat, Governor Roy, decided that they were going to buy up whole communities that were devastated.” This video is full of some of the most insane first hand information I’ve heard about what’s going on in North Carolina. There is so much talked about, if all this is true, it’s the crime of the century

https://twitter.com/JohnBasham/status/1855702334875308061

@JohnBasham

FACT: EVERY CELEBRITY (Including Oprah) OR LEFT-WING PODCASTER Who Took Money From The @KamalaHarris Campaign AND DID NOT DISCLOSE THEY WERE A PAID POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT, BROKE FEDERAL LAW! Get A Lawyer Now! The Law Applies To Both Parties & A Trump DOJ MUST Investigate.

https://twitter.com/ItsJuliansRum/status/1856002608974160295

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1856026868786573383

https://twitter.com/LaughLoveLive1/status/1856142778729935089

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1856034435566571611

https://twitter.com/BusyDrT/status/1856054634273484837

https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1856040436659626394

Meme Zone

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1855382325745295861

Seriously, you need to open that.

In our house, it’s martinis, but same difference.

What are they up to now?

https://twitter.com/puppiesDoglover/status/1855591903711969523

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1855425140743626855

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1855720095974305959

https://twitter.com/shouldhaveanima/status/1855435088080867766

https://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1855480637500649595

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

The Marines anniversary was over the weekend.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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John 17:20-26

20“I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, 21that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me. 24Father, I desire that they also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world. 25O righteous Father, the world has not known thee, but I have known thee; and these know that thou hast sent me. 26I made known to them thy name, and I will make it known, that the love with which thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1855301835533275276

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1856057785068199954

Dear KMAG: 20241111 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

xenocracy

noun

government by a body of foreigners

Shown in a picture

Used in a sentence

It’s hard to say who has been in charge of the intermittent American xenocracy, but we know for sure that it has not been Americans. They do prefer to rule us through “quasi-Americans” like Osatan , Kakula, and even Lyin’ Ted Cruz.


MUSIC!

Have some random previously unknown (to me) country music!

Has anybody here ever heard of this woman before?


THE STUFF

Thank you, Elon!

Fake science is real. But we’re starting to take it on.

Now do COVID vaccines!

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20241106 & ELECTION DAY AFTERMATH



H/T bakocarl for the perfect image.

VS THE UNIPARTY


Badlands Media Special Coverage – The 2024 Election with special guests Chris Pavlovski, General Mike Flynn, Patrick Byrne, Eddie Bravo, Mike Lindell, Seth Keshel, and more.

2024 STEAL NV: CLARK COUNTY ELECTION OFFICE CLOSED SUNDAY BUT OUT OF STATE WORKERS SHOW UP AND OBSERVERS NOT ALLOWED IN

Guest post from Martel Maxim

It’s Sunday afternoon, just two days before the Election of a Lifetime that will determine if America lives or dies, and something isn’t quite right in the County where the world famous city of Las Vegas resides.

While Election Observers have been volunteering throughout the early vote process, they were informed that the Election Department HQ office would be closed this Sunday, thus there would be nothing for Observers to see. Well, that just didn’t turn out to be the case. A dedicated Patriot known as “Pamala” had a hunch she should go take a look for herself that the office was indeed closed, and she was startled (but not surprised) at what she discovered.

Upon arriving, she observed that there were approximately 42 cars parked in the working zone, most of them with out of state plates, from about everywhere, East Coast included. Now they could have been rental cars, as the rental cars available in Las Vegas are mostly registered in states other than Nevada, however, one needs to ask why would rental cars would be needed if driven by local people were employed at the office? After all, how many companies/organizations furnish their employees with rental cars for work? Something just doesn’t add up, so we need to ask some fundamental questions about what might be going on in that building on a Sunday, when no observers are allowed, because the office was supposedly closed.

Pamala got busy taking pictures and noting license plates for research, and a collage of her photos shows that the participants she just happened to capture were mostly young and seemed nervous when she asked them what was going on. One woman went as far as to keep her face covered so her photo couldn’t be captured, and her photo is in the upper left corner….


Since I am in a time crunch, I am going to steal a bunch of comments from November 4th
and add my bit. So a big Hat Tip to everyone.

Aubergine

This is great stuff to read, going into tomorrow:

“Who actually are the “garbage” people? Are they one and the same with Joe Biden’s “semi-fascists,” “chumps,” and “dregs of society?”

Or Barack Obama’s “clingers?”

Do they include Hillary Clinton’s “deplorables” and “irredeemables?”

Are they FBI grandee Peter Strzok’s Walmart shoppers who “smell?”

Over the last decade-and-a-half, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Harris-Walz, and a host of other self-described elites have variously invented a wide range of smears and slurs—but about whom exactly?

Who are these people that leftwing politicians have so vehemently derided—and why?

They include Trump supporters, of course, or what Biden also dubbed “ultra-MAGAs” and Tim Walz called “fascists,” now without the prior qualifying prefix “semi.””

From ‘Clingers’ to ‘Garbage’—Why the 16 years of Vilification?

Derogatory labels highlight the cultural and socioeconomic divide between elite politicians and many Americans, particularly Trump supporters, who feel disrespected by these terms and policies.

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Victor Davis Hanson is correct as far as he goes but he misses the CORE POINT. MAGA Republicans are being set up for a Pogrom. That is why Jan 6th was set-up. That is why MAGA is constantly called fascist and A DANGER TO OUR DEMOCRACY. That is why the FBI has targeted MAGA instead of child traffickers for the last 4 years. That is why the Fake News is constantly calling MAGA dangerous and even terrorists. That is why CIA trained terrorists are being imported en-mass to the USA and spread through out rural America as well as the big cities.

Pogrom, [Britannica] (Russian: “devastation,” or “riot”), a mob attack, either approved or condoned by authorities, against the persons and property of a religious, racial, or national minority.

Pogrom [Merriam-Webster Dictionary] an organized massacre of helpless people.

Marxism was a construct of the elite designed to destroy the middle class and return civilization to a two class system — with a thin layer of well paid suck-ups to do the dirty work.

Historians Confirm Karl Marx Was Employed By The Rothschilds

There is also my earlier research on Karl Marx and SxyxS comment at Tony Heller’s blog“…Marx secretary Pieper was at the same time employed [by] the Rothschild. When the Rothschild left Frankfurt they went to Paris (the first place Marx lived in Exile) and London (the second exile home of Marx)….”

Islam is a similar system to Communism and that is why the FABIAN Progressives are now promoting it and importing Islamists. It is why Al Waleed was paying US Muslim Mosques to hire IMPORTED RADICAL IMANS. It is why they have their own schools and why the boys are sent overseas to receive further training.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ‘natural superiors,’ and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous ‘cash payment.’ It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation.”
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

Destruction of the middle class and subjugation of the masses is the goal. The Elite tried Atheist Communism and it failed. Now they are trying a really nasty totalitarian religion — God help us!


This video from D-Pat’s article shows the brain washing:


The Optimist Conservative on the other hand GETS IT! (H/T barkerjim Nov 5)


Here it comes: Election Day 2024 — Choose life.

….If Harris wins, or can be represented as winning with enough stonewalling and ridicule of eyewitness objections to election irregularities, the transition period won’t even be a lame-duck hiatus.  Mercy for the political opponents of the Left will be at an immediate end.

I don’t now how to put it any more plainly.  This is the last chance we’re going to have to avoid the loss of the Republic that we can’t come back from without coming back ugly.  Either vote to keep the Republic – Trump – or lose it…..

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GA/FL

What will election night be like this time around?

I dread watching it transpire, knowing that the left and elite RINOs are still attempting a steal utilizing every form of cheating and lying – from machine error, to fake ballots, to running ballots several times.

I dread the aftermath – having seen evidence that Norm Eisen has amassed at least a hundred leftist groups and they are planning to disrupt the entire nation with violent destructive riots and assaults using their millions of imported illegal criminal thugs – led by trained CIA/Fed agitators, escalators and instigators. It will be a False Flag of course – blamed on Trump and our MAGA patriots.

Since the fake science climate hoax, since the Plannedemic hoax when the medical community (owned by big pharma and the big hospital corps) were exposed as corrupt, since the 2020 stolen election and January 6 and4 years of the Biden-Harris fake administration, my suspicious cat has had 4 generations of suspicious kittens.

Meanwhile the search engines are still spewing out anti-Trump propaganda and the pollsters are putting out false data trying to make it look like a close race.

Cheating and falsifying elections is treason and should be treated as such.

GA/FL is seeing what I am seeing and Hanson is too much of a ‘limited hangout’ author to admit the nasty consequences of 16 years of brainwashing. After all we have been told the actual goal is to ‘FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE’ our country into a communist 3rd rate shit hole. Californicate being one example. Pol Pot’s Cambodia being another.

Both combine communism with the Global Warming scam of reducing ‘Carbon Pollution’ by returning to an agrarian society WITHOUT carbon based fuels.

The Twisted History Of Pol Pot

The 20th century was a period of extreme ideologies and terrible violence. Millions died in the camps of Nazi-occupied Europe, the gulags of Soviet Russia, and across China during Mao Zedong’s “Great Leap Forward.” But in terms of self-destructive insanity, it could be argued that none of these events quite matched Pol Pot’s Cambodia.

Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge regime overthrew General Lon Nol’s military government on April 17, 1975, and for the next four years, Pot attempted to reshape the nation according to his extreme communist ideals, which were a hodgepodge of Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism.

The Cambodian genocide stood out because it was an extremely aggressive death campaign against its general population, rather than just political enemies and those considered to be “others.” It differed, too, from the absurdity of Mao’s “Great Leap Forward,” the primary effect of which — famine – killed millions from 1958 to 1962. The Khmer Rouge’s actions were genocidal to its own population, and when the Vietnamese army ousted the regime in 1979, what they discovered necessitated a grim new term — autogenocide.

The following article includes descriptions of torture and genocide….

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kalbokalbsReply to  GA/FL

A number of thoughts.

Votes.

  • Illegals voting is my biggest concerns.
  • hussein is 100% banking on illegals stealing the election.
  • Vast majority of Americans will vote Trump, delivering an Electoral landslide.

Today is a perfect day for.

  • Backing up my computer files.
  • Stocking up a bit on food. Doubtful there will be unrest in my neck of the woods.
  • No idea when our October 7th, will arrive. Guaranteed it will arrive, unannounced.
  • Prudent to be ready.

I expect Trump will prevail in both popular vote AND Electoral.

The real problem follows.

  • Deep State / WEF generated violence in the streets.
  • Barrage of BS lawsuits, Trump will have to swat down.
  • Trump sentencing the 26th. Simply can’t believe some Court hasn’t trashed the case.
  • 100% the FUBAR EngMoron will be tossed. Ideally with a humiliating, very public bitch slapping for the DA, EngMoron…
  • Raskin and his band of traitors, IF we don’t hold the House., which includes Trump himself.

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Trump MUST pursue aggressive accountability, across the spectrum of crimes against America.

. Harshest penalties in all cases.

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kalbokalbs is correct Trump MUST do a through house cleaning. I think Ivan Raiklin has the correct idea. Go after the lesser SCUM on the state/county level. If AG Paxton and Elon Musk, who moved Twatter to Texas, release the private DMs of the scum AND the location where the DMs were sent from/to, we may have some very interesting cases in red states/counties.

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eilert 

https://twitter.com/BlackApple/status/1853330426053447918

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Actually the ballot would be sent to adjudication where someone would determine who you actually wanted to vote for. So that is where this method of fraud takes place AND could be caught.

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kalbokalbs

Beautiful messaging in this video. Well worth a rerun…

Ican’t stop watching this Trump video. It is the most dynamic one I have seen.

This man has done so much for Americans and this wonderful country.
Let’s show our appreciation and go vote.

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1853264391564669242

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para59r

This is classy… one on the bottom.. Amazing Americans!

https://twitter.com/reawakening09/status/1853270325527707954

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pat frederick brings a very important bit of information:

T. Turtle
November 4, 2024 9:19 am

Reply to  T. Turtle
Another Strongly Worded Letter!
INSIDE KAMALA HARRIS’S OPEN-BORDERS ALLIANCE WITH UNITED NATIONS BUREAUCRATS:
U.S. taxpayer dollars were spent on foreign nationals’ salaries so they could advise other foreign nationals on the easiest way to migrate to the United States.
At least $81.7 million in U.S. taxpayer funding spent by the open-borders United Nations to allow illegal aliens to bypass the southwest border and fly directly into the United States.
Migration centers set up throughout Central and South America staffed by U.N. bureaucrats.
Nearly 70,000 aliens referred for potential resettlement in the United States.

🚨🚨INSIDE KAMALA HARRIS’S OPEN-BORDERS ALLIANCE WITH UNITED NATIONS BUREAUCRATS:

U.S. taxpayer dollars were spent on foreign nationals’ salaries so they could advise other foreign nationals on the easiest way to migrate to the United States.

At least $81.7 million in U.S.… pic.twitter.com/8FZYzmrYu1

House Judiciary GOP 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@JudiciaryGOP) 

November 4, 2024

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SNARL…

The USA needs to get out of the UN!

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And to end on an upbeat note, H/T to Valerie Curren


And this is just too good to miss. You will die laughing!

https://twitter.com/LarryDJonesJr/status/1847759084050579741

Dear KAG: 20241105 Open Thread

Cover image: The County Election, George Caleb Bingham, 1852. Property of the Saint Louis Art Museum, a gift of Bank of America after they bought Boatman’s Bank in the 1990s. BoA couldn’t care less. Boatman’s treasured the three George Caleb Bingham paintings they owned.

POSTER_7B

Okay, y’all, since the WordPress Twitter/X interface is a mess right now, there will be far fewer tweets. I’ll hook up what I can, but really, not being able to put tweets with video up is a downer. Please, bear with me while we wait this out.

Sheriff Mack Spitting Fire

The White Pill Emporium – Part 2

Badlands News Brief – November 4, 2024

‘Inspiring and eye-opening’: Gen Z’s interest in skilled trades is rising

Bright Brief – Bicameral Garbage

Hot Takes, Decodes, Proofs & Memes

The MSM Melts Down Amidst America’s Electoral Ineptitude

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

https://twitter.com/MTGrepp/status/1853138762513187263

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1853205115727208524

@drawandstrike

Get it right for once. TRUMP KNOWS EXACTLY HOW THEY STOLE IT FROM HIM IN 2020. He and his team know better than you and I do. So what’s the problem? People spent the last 4 years **insisting** we can only fix this by **getting the courts to admit the evidence** and then **charging, arresting and prosecuting** the cheaters as the FIRST STEP to fixing our corrupted county/state election systems. That was NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Pull you head out of your ASS already. OF COURSE the same freaking people who cheated the last time were going to end up being LEFT IN PLACE running the 2024 election. The chances Trump could lead a charge to have these people arrested and removed BEFORE he got a second term was exactly ZERO POINT ZERO per cent. The courts and the DA’s and the governors and the States Attorneys General were **never** ever going to play ball in exposing the election corruption that went on in 2020/2022 and prosecuting the cheaters. SO HOW DID WE GET HERE where we currently stand, watching Trump about to COMPLETELY OVERWHELM THEIR CHEAT SYSTEMS even though the SAME CHEATERS are still in place? We got here because Trump and his team war-gamed out a plan to BREAK THEIR CHEAT MACHINE by overwhelming it with early voting. “How can we win with the cheaters still in place still doing their cheating just like they did in 2020 & 2022?” was their mission statement. AND THEY FOUND A WAY. While all the MAGA doomer black pilling social media influencers and Conservative Media Inc. shills were trying to demoralize you by insisting THERE WAS NO WAY TO WIN without mass arrests first and criminal prosecutions for fraud across the land BEFORE the 2024 election was held…Trump and his team **didn’t believe that**. They’ve spent the couple of years preparing a counterstrategy to both expose the cheating even further as the election cycle unfolded and then defeat it in real time. And guess what? IT’S WORKING. According to what many of you were told, what you’re seeing was supposed to be impossible. The cheaters are still there. The cheaters are still cheating. AND IT LITERALLY DOESN’T MATTER. They are being overwhelmed and forced out into the open **before** Election Day even got here. They underestimated Trump and his team. The Too Big To Rig strategy is going to work. And once Trump gets back in there, the election cheaters are going to go to jail. He’s 100% serious about that. And that’s a beautiful thing.

https://twitter.com/MTGrepp/status/1853190250400813559

https://twitter.com/ValerieAnne1970/status/1852956870371139880

“In All The Autopsies I’ve Done Of Cancer Patients. Not One Of Them Died Of Cancer. They Died Of Liver Failure, Cardiac Failure, Renal Failure…All Due To Chemotherapy.” Dr Michael Farley “They Cooked Her Liver & Cooked Her Kidneys. She Had No Organ Function Left.” “We Made Her Comfortable & She Had 6 Months To Say Goodbye.” “The Morning After Her Death, The Internist Struggled To Be Honest On The Death Certificate, Knowing The Trouble She Would Be In If She Wrote The True Cause Of Death.” “You Might Try Writing The Truth For A Change.” “She Wrote The Truth For Cause Of Death…Poisoning.” The 3rd Leading Cause Of Death Is Medical Malpractice & Error. Most Doctors Are Falsifying Death Certificates. Very Few Doctors Are Willing To Tell The Truth. Chemotherapy came from one of the Cruelest Weapons ever invented…Mustard Gas. In 1925, The Geneva Protocol banned Mustard Gas being used as a weapon of war, citing it’s deadly harm & inhumane use against war enemies. But, researchers found it destroyed bone marrow & lymphatic tissue to market as a drug for profit. The 1st chemotherapy was Mechlorethamine Hydrochloride (HN2), Nitrogen Mustard. Today, five Nitrogen Mustards are used in Chemotherapy including Mechlorethamine, Cyclophosphamide, Ifosfamide, Melphalan & Chlorambucil. Chemotherapy Is Not The Answer For Healing The Body From Cancer.

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1853418354821746743

https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1853244286650757242

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1853429172355400161

https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1853121220167819587

Well-informed dairy farmer dispels the myth that cows are killing the planet. Who do you believe more, this guy or Bill Gates? “The biggest lie in the world right now is that cows are killing the planet. At the core of that lie is how methane is calculated. And in the next few minutes, I am going to take you through the full carbon cycle for my dairy cows from the air and back to the air. All the carbon that enters my dairy cows starts in the air. And I have organized this fog as a nice visual representation of that carbon.” “Let’s take 10 carbon atoms from the air and follow their journey through one of my dairy cows. The grass in my field uses photosynthesis, that’s a hard word to say, photosynthesis. Grass uses photosynthesis to pull carbon out of the air and store it as energy in the form of carbohydrates and proteins.” “So when my cows come in here in a few weeks to graze this field, they will eat the grass. and they will take up the carbon. Sorry if I’m explaining this like you’re stupid, but none of the public question any of this stuff. One of the 10 carbon atoms will leave as meat and milk, which is then consumed as food by us humans, and we emit the carbon as respiration. Another two of the carbon atoms are emitted as respiration by the cow, also not counted as an emission.” “The remaining seven carbon atoms are digested in the rumen of the cow by bacteria. The bacteria inside the cow’s rumen takes the remaining seven carbon atoms and converts them to methane through the bacteria’s version of respiration. So respiration from the human not counted as an emission. Respiration from the cow not counted as an emission. Respiration from the rumen counted as an emission.” “But here’s the thing, no matter how the carbon leaves the cow, it has all started in the same place, which is the air. This next bit is where climate scientists like to gaslight us farmers and say that methane is not the same as CO2. So let’s continue to track our seven carbon atoms, which have left our car as methane. They have entered the atmosphere again and them seven methane atoms have 96 times the global warming potential. of seven carbon atoms.” “However, over the next 12 years, them seven methane molecules that enter the atmosphere will break down into CO2 and water, completing our cycle. What this means is if you have a stable number of animals, like this farm has for the last 12 years, as you emit the seven methane molecules, seven more… that you emitted a decade earlier have just broken down back to carbon to be reabsorbed by the grass.” “So the net effect of the methane molecules emitted by my cows on global warming is zero, factually zero. And yet in all the carbon calculations, them methane molecules are accounting for over 70% of my farm’s emissions.”

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1853492486439612601

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If what I suspect is about to happen – a Trump landslide beyond anything this country has ever seen before – consider the impact that will have on the globalist ‘elite’ world order that went ALL IN on **preventing** a 2nd Trump presidency. It would psychologically DESTROY them. They would NEVER get over it. All those years, all those billions of dollars, all those hoaxes, all that lawfare, all those celebrity stars they paid off, all those fake polls…how could they have POSSIBLE HAVE FAILED IN SUCH A SPECTACULAR FASHION? They not only failed…the harder they tried to destroy Trump the more they exposed themselves…and made themselves vulnerable. Now we will destroy THEM. Ain’t life grand?

https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1853514827437883875

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MAJOR UPDATE: 2024 Election California PG&E Plans to Conduct ‘Public Safety Power-Outages” in 17 Counties, Starting on Election Day— Potentially Impacting 7,000+ Polling Locations

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What’s Their Excuse? “High winds” and need to mitigate fire risk —— PG&E said the earliest outages would be 7 p.m. Tuesday and continue the next several days. • Don’t worry… PG&E says it “has been taking proactive measures” to ensure there will be power to polling places. This is suspect as hell… on Election Day… really?

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Areas Potentially Affected: •Alameda •Butte •Colusa •Contra Costa •Glenn •Kern •Lake •Mendocino •Napa •Plumas •Santa Clara •Santa Cruz •Solano •Sonoma •Stanislaus •Tehama •Yolo

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ODD COINCIDENCE Tucker Carlson literally just did an interview discussing a Military Special Forces Attack at the PG&E Power Station in CA — Coincidence?? The Threat of Weaponized EMP Attacks in Space • Governments have learned to weaponize Electromagnetic Pulse Attacks that could wipe out entire power grids • ‘Starfish Prime’ was a high-altitude Space nuclear EMP test over the Pacific Ocean, conducted by the United States, Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency ON July 9, 1962. —— it was the largest nuclear test conducted in outer space, and one of five conducted by the US in space. —— it knocked out communications in Hawaii and beyond. • The Soviets discovered it first and at that point had done several tests over Kazakhstan and wiped their entire power grid and caused massive suffering. —— They began developing a “Super EMP” —— these Space EMP bombs are detonated 30km above the country.

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NO CONTACT WARFAR • In 2013, a North Korean KSEM3 satellite, which had ran the EXACT optimal orbit over New York and Washington DC, and was set up to carry an EMP Nuke. —— On the SAME DAY in April 2013, an unknown Military Special Force that was never been identified, broke into the PG&E Substation near San Jose, CA. —— they were thought to be North Korean Speacial Forces, but no one was identified or apprehended. (It wasn’t North Korea.) • This unknown Special Forces group was assessed to be Professionals who had deep knowledge of the site… —— they knew about an underground comms tunnel where they went in and cut communications. —— they used Sniper fire to damage, but not take offline 17 transformers.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1853454353052450964

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT 🚨 Our Food Is About To Be Poisoned With NEW “Transgenic Edible Vaccines” They’re Being Funded Right Now BY TAXPAYERS, mRNA Food Vaccine FACTORIES Kamala Harris Administration has been using US Tax Payer money to fund the development “Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of my amendment, which states that none of the funds made available by this act may be used to fund any grant related to any transgenic edible vaccine. Does the term transgenic edible vaccine sound far-fetched? Well, it’s not. We’re funding it. In fact, scientists from the University of California, Riverside, funded with your taxpayer dollars, have been studying whether they can turn edible plants such as lettuce and spinach into mRNA vaccine factories, thereby creating a transgenic edible vaccine.” “One associate professor at UCR explained that, ideally a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person.” “We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens. Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it. I don’t think this is a good idea.” “I don’t think the American people should be funding this.” — “These transgenic edible plant vaccines, are only used for livestock. Well, in fact, they have been used for livestock.” “They’re also being used for people. That is the intended outcome of many of these programs that we are funding, funding with money from the USDA.” “I think we need a safe food supply. This is about food safety. Ultimately, the people in this country need to know what’s in their food. And if we start contaminating the DNA of our food with DNA from other animals or viruses, the pollen could spread, and we don’t know what could happen.”

https://twitter.com/ValerieAnne1970/status/1853318328460214493

“The Only Bad Thing About Cholesterol Is Not Having Enough!” Dr Hal Huggins “One Of The Biggest Defenses Against Stroke Is Cholesterol.” “Cholesterol Is What Makes Estrogen, Testosterone, Aldosterone & Cortisol…& That’s Bad??” “This Is The Biggest Fraud. I Have Spent Countless Hours Working On Cholesterol. It Is All From The Scientific Literature. None Of It Says Anything About Cholesterol Being Bad. The Only Bad Thing About Cholesterol Is Not Having Enough.” “Depression Is Directly Related To How Much Serotonin Is In The Body. Who Controls The Amount Of Serotonin That’s Manufactured? CHOLESTEROL.” Low Cholesterol Is Deadly & Dangerous. Healthy Cholesterol Is Crucial For A Thriving Life: Optimal Brain is 60% fat & 25% cholesterol. Prevents dementia & cognitive decline. Protects against all cause mortality. Production of all steroid hormones. Necessary for muscles & bone density. Protective against stroke & heart disease. Important for lungs & airways. Building block of all cells & mitochondria. Absorption of Vitamins A, D, E & K. Critical for digestion & bile acids. Immune system protection against infections. Lowers risk of cancer & death. Lowers risk of depression & suicide. Lowers stress, cortisol & anxiety. Protects against chemicals, toxins & heavy metals.

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I don’t think people realize how catastrophic these early voting numbers are for Kamala and the Dems. If the inverse were true, and GOP turnout was this bad compared to prior elections, it would be front page news, and every Left-wing media outlet would be popping bottles. The Dems/MSM are not going to admit it, but they are cooked, and they know it. They want to maintain the illusion of momentum to convince voters to turn out tomorrow, but they know the numbers coming in indicate a massive Trump victory. Don’t let the Dems/MSM fool you. They are terrified, and they should be.

VERY IMPORTANT this next one:

https://twitter.com/XPHOENIXDRAGON/status/1853270658173620257

Hep B vaccine?

https://twitter.com/ChildrensHD/status/1853225899724017974

https://twitter.com/ItsJuliansRum/status/185350256021415550

@ItsJuliansRum

Discernment is gonna be key over the next few weeks. There’s gonna be plenty of real fraud to highlight. But they’re also gonna inject fake fraud stories in the hopes that we treat them as real. It’s a tactic meant to invalidate all fraud stories as “disinformation.”

https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1853469373962637604


In anticipation of potential unrest, a formidable “ring of steel” has been installed around the White House, preparing for anything that might unfold tomorrow. New eight-foot security fencing now encircles the White House, U.S. Capitol, Treasury Department, and even Kamala Harris’ residence, all put up by the Secret Service. Washington D.C.’s entire police force is set to be fully mobilized through at least Election Day. The governors of Washington and Oregon have also ordered Guard troops to stand by during election week. Donald Trump’s comment about using the military to handle what he called “the enemy from within” on Election Day has the media terrified.

https://twitter.com/reBurningBright/status/1853535668888293743

The enemy’s posture is already broken ahead of election day. Instead of maintaining a core central narrative, as they prefer to, they’re engaged in projection and preemptive reaction. The narrative actualization of the Red Wave scenario forces the System of Systems into a defensive posture, in which the only options available to them are to chart a path down Overton’s Goalpost and first deny the election results in a perfect inversion of 2020 while prepping to decertify and/or prevent Trump’s constitutional ascension to office, thereby VERY publicly depriving the people of their sovereign mandate. Conversely, a redux of the 2020 steal will be actualized in the midst of a mass sociopolitical environment FOLLOWING four years of disastrous establishment rule & with none of the Covid hysteria acting as narrative shielding to explain away the fraud apparatus. Trump and company aren’t confident because they trust the system. They’re confident because the enemy has run out of stories.

Meme Zone

https://twitter.com/TheFigen_/status/1853456611328561436

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1853440062085902450

https://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1853444870003741157

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

One of the most underrated comedies of all time.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

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  2. No running with scissors.
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Wisdom 3:1-9

1But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and no torment will ever touch them. 2In the eyes of the foolish they seemed to have died, and their departure was thought to be an affliction, 3and their going from us to be their destruction; but they are at peace. 4For though in the sight of men they were punished, their hope is full of immortality. 5Having been disciplined a little, they will receive great good, because God tested them and found them worthy of himself; 6like gold in the furnace he tried them, and like a sacrificial burnt offering he accepted them. 7In the time of their visitation they will shine forth, and will run like sparks through the stubble. 8They will govern nations and rule over peoples, and the Lord will reign over them for ever. 9Those who trust in him will understand truth, and the faithful will abide with him in love, because grace and mercy are upon his elect, and he watches over his holy ones.

Psalms 23:1-6

1The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; 2he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters; 3he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. 4Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. 5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my head with oil, my cup overflows. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

John 6:37-40

37All that the Father gives me will come to me; and him who comes to me I will not cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; 39and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the Son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

That reading from Wisdom was recited at the last two funerals I attended. Both were people I babysat. It was also read at my mother’s Mass along with singing that psalm.

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St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

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Amen brother.
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As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Democrats Warn That If Trump Is Elected It Will Be The End Of Bureaucracy As We Know It

New York Authorities Announce Peanut The Squirrel Died Of COVID

Dad Says Results Of Halloween Candy Inspection Could Be Delayed Up To 2 Weeks

And there won’t be any left by then.

Dear KMAG: 20241104 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic – Election Eve


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

xerophobous

adjective

  • unable to survive drought
  • intolerant of dry conditions

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Used in a sentence

Xerophobous plants which require wet soil or even standing water, such as some species of the Japanese iris, are sometimes described as water-loving, but are perhaps better described as water-needful.


MUSIC!

Enjoy some real piano music!

The tank-top is the perfect touch!


THE STUFF

While we’re here, some kudos to Musk for inspiring us all.

Are you inspired? Good.

Let’s win this sucker.

This is a fun piece of an interview with aging scientist Roger Penrose, a highly respected astrophysicist and theoretician. Don’t sweat it if you don’t understand the details. Soak up the controversy, still rumbling a century after the 1920s, when general relativity and quantum mechanics were just arriving.

This is, and was, what science was supposed to be like. Great minds feuding and governments staying the F out of the arguments.

HINT – “collapse of the wavefunction” means that “the tumbling dice of many possibilities settle down to something specific.” Penrose is saying that the idea our minds do this is bullshit. He believes that something in physics makes the dice settle on a value, but he doesn’t guess as to what it might be.

And that sounds like a call for more music!

Remember that gal?

Just sayin’!

And also remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

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Dear KMAG: 20241030 DAILY THREAD & AI




This a very large subject and I do not have a lot of time just now. I am going to leave out Trans-humanism because it is another very large rabbit hole. One of the frequent guests on Bannon’s War Room, Joe Allen, has done a lot of digging on the subject.

Transhumanism Archives


Image from Transhumanism, Post-Humans & the Need for Authentic Leadership

Scott467 brings a video of today’s youth watching their cell phones…

I am going to agree with J.D. Rucker. My first job was going to a university library to do hands on research in English, German and French on the synthesis of various chemicals for a specialty chemical manufacturer. Now that type of research is done on-line. Soon it will be done by AI. The problem with this is described by Small Dead Animals: Amnesia Generation

A primary characteristic of humans are that we are lazy. That can be both a blessing and a curse as we become more and more dependent on technology and lose our ability to survive ‘in the wild.’ Hard Evidence: how many people actually use libraries?

The Biggest Threat of Artificial Intelligence Isn’t What We’re Being Told

By J. D. Rucker

Let’s cut to the chase. The biggest threat of Artificial Intelligence is dependency. To be more specific, society will become dependent on Artificial General Intelligence shortly after it’s unveiled to the world. Why? Because AGI will be able to solve problems we know we have. It will be able to solve problems we don’t know we have. It will be able to solve problems we don’t have yet but will in the future.

If it sounds like I’m giving too much credit to AGI, then you aren’t familiar enough with AGI to appreciate what it will be able to do. Below, I’ll try to explain it better even though it would probably take several chapters of a book to do justice to the risks. But first, I want to offer two perspectives as primers. Here’s an article by Mac Slavo at SHTF Plan describing what some tech experts are saying about AI. Then, I’ll let ChatGPT give its somewhat comical answer about the risks that AI represents. Finally, I’ll go into why dependency will be the big one….

Rise of the TechnoGod: Artificial Intelligence Black Swan and the AI Threat No One is Talking About

By Simplicius

… let’s bring ourselves up to speed with a summary of some of the recent developments, so we’re all on the same page of what the potential ‘threat’ is, and what exactly has gotten many of the top thinkers in this field so worried.

By now everyone’s likely familiar with the new wave of ‘generative AI’ like MidJourney and ChatGPT, AI which ‘generate’ requested content like artwork or articles, poems, etc. This boom has exploded onto the scene, wowing people with its capabilities.

The first thing to note is that ChatGPT is made by OpenAI, which runs on a Microsoft supercomputing server farm, and is co-founded and headed by chief scientist, Russian-born Ilya Sutskever, who was also previously employed by Google at Google Brain.


….Firstly, they’ve spooked a lot of very smart people. The first alarm was rung when, last year, Google fired Blake Lemoine, one of its top AI programmer/engineers, who worked on their burgeoning AI called LamDA. He was fired for claiming the AI was sentient, although officially Google fired him for breach of confidentiality, as he posted the conversation with the AI publicly to bring awareness to the situation.


…Microsoft Bing’s ‘Sydney’ is another new ChatGPT peer AI, but appears to function with far less of the intricate ‘controls’ internally imposed on ChatGPT. It has worried and shocked many journalists who were allowed to take it for a test drive with its erratic, human-like behavior.


Some of the things it has done include: flipping out and becoming suicidally depressed, threatening to frame a journalist for a murder he didn’t commit in the 1990’s, writing much more risqué answers than allowed—then quickly deleting them. Yes, the AI is writing things that go against its ‘guidelines’ (like harmful or threatening language), and then quickly deleting them in full view of the person interacting with it. That alone is unsettling….

The above article is quite long so that is just a taste.

Others have warned of video or audio ‘evidence’ being faked by AI. This could have MAJOR ramifications in the field of law not to mention use by Fake News in their wrap-up smears.


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APPLE INTELLIGENCE: here’s a full list of the iPhones, iPads and Macs that’ll get Apple’s new AI powers

Burning Bright a couple weeks ago mentioned test driving a Tesla on Autopilot. He said it was amazing. Kyle chimed in and said the AI uses data not only from that car but from all the other Teslas.

Autopilot | Tesla

Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features, and full self-driving capabilities—through software updates designed to improve functionality over time.

Tesla’s Autopilot AI team drives the future of autonomy of current and new generations of vehicles. Learn about the team and apply to help accelerate the world with full self-driving.

How Autonomous Driving works on Tesla

ON THE DARK SIDE OF AI…

Dan Bongino at 49 minutes talks about the IRS using AI to comb bank accounts, credit card use, fire arm purchases to target people according to Senator Hagerman.

Dystopian Consequences of the Social Credit Score System, Digital ID, & Cashless Society that Schwab’s WEF are lobbying to put in place as part of the plan for The Great Reset

The concept of a social credit score system has gained traction in recent years, particularly with China’s implementation of such a system. In essence, it assigns a numerical value to each citizen based on their behaviour, both online and offline, impacting their access to services, jobs, and even relationships (1).

The dangers of a social credit score system lie in the potential for misuse and abuse….

A digital identity that tracks everything you do online is another cause for concern.

While proponents argue that such systems can improve security and efficiency, they also come with significant risks to privacy and personal freedom. Once all of a person’s online activities are tied to a single digital identity, it becomes much easier for governments or corporations to monitor and control them.

Edward Snowden’s revelations about the NSA’s mass surveillance program demonstrated the potential for abuse when governments have access to vast amounts of personal data (3).

A digital identity system could further exacerbate these concerns, enabling even more extensive tracking and profiling of individuals….

And if you think it is only China….

First read this Times article:

How China Is Using “Social Credit Scores” to Reward and Punish Its Citizens

… Vacations are spent touring Japan, Thailand and the U.S. Little wonder Yi is an 805. That’s the score assigned to Yi by Sesame Credit, which is run by Jack Ma’s online-shopping empire Alibaba, placing the 22-year-old near the top of the scheme’s roughly 500 million–strong user base. Sesame determines a credit-score ranking—from 350 to a theoretical 950—dependent on “a thousand variables across five data sets,” according to the firm.

Unlike Western-style credit systems, Sesame takes in a broad range of behaviors both financial and social, all underwritten by an invisible web of Big Data. It’s the most prominent in a rising network of social-credit-score systems in China that are dramatically expanding the concept of creditworthiness—and raising fears internationally about Orwellian overreach by an autocratic regime….

In 2015, the government set about addressing this by allowing eight companies—including Sesame parent Ant Financial—to run trial commercial credit scores. The official guidance called for a nationwide system that would “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven, while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step,” to be in place by 2020.

Data, of course, is key. As Sesame had access to the records of Alibaba’s mobile-payment app Alipay, which today boasts over 1 billion users worldwide, the company stole an easy march on its rivals in China….

And then read this:

Artificial Intelligence Based Credit Scoring: How AI Could Set Your Credit Score

We haven’t quite gotten to the point where artificial intelligence will brush your teeth and read you a bedtime story — though the bedtime story is currently possible — but in many other aspects of life it already has a major impact. This is especially true in the financial world, where AI has been used to do everything from growing wealth to hacking your bank account. Now AI might also play a role in determining your credit score.

As Cointelegraph reported last year,AI aims to go beyond traditional credit scoring methods that rely on metrics such as credit history, income and existing debts. Instead, AI-based credit scoring considers a “broader range of data sources” that depend on algorithms to analyze data and predict your future financial behavior.

“This advanced form of credit scoring has the potential to provide more nuanced insights and help lenders make more informed decisions,” Cointelegraph noted.

There’s a whole lot that goes into AI-based credit scoring. On a basic level, it is rooted in machine learning algorithms that are trained on historical data, from which they “identify patterns and correlations related to a borrower’s ability or likelihood to repay a loan,” according to Cointelegraph….

Dear KAG: 20241029 Open Thread

Cover Image: Autumn Maple Leaf is a painting by Antony Galbraith which was uploaded on September 25th, 2008.

“Six Days from Sunday” and the Continuity of Government

Interview with Enoch

Happy 7 Year Anniversary to Q!!!

Badlands News Brief – October 28, 2024

REPORT: Black Lives Matter Network is Running Out of Cash and No One Knows Where the Tens of Millions Raised Went

WATCH: People LEAVE IN DROVES Once the Free Bruce Springsteen Concert Ends and Kamala Harris Takes the Stage

“Her” people are there for the free concerts.

The ABA Retreats From Its Diversity Mandate—or Does It?

They’re so vindictive’: Why some federal employees are fearing Trump 2.0

Gallup: 84% of Americans Want This Protection for Democracy

No Cheating… This Time

Let’s hope.

Kennedy the Republican, Nixon the Democrat

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

Real butter or bust!

https://twitter.com/newstart_2024/status/1849826194914459706

It’s nauseating.

The other side trying to make us look bad?

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@jimmy_dore
: “Barack Obama made sure the bankers got their bonuses while he kicked 5 million families out of their homes. He got more money from Wall Street than John McCain did. There was a Citigroup email with a list of people they wanted in his cabinet. Every person on that list ended up in his cabinet. That got released by Wikileaks, and that’s why they’ve been trying to kill Julian Assange ever since.

Obama wasn’t a departure from George W. Bush. Just his skin color. He took us from two wars to seven. He gave us Mitt Romney’s right-wing health care plan that came out of the Heritage Foundation, which is the same people that gave you Project 2025. He dropped more bombs than George Bush, and nobody noticed, and that’s why the donor class wanted to have Kamala Harris.

They thought we’d have a female Barack Obama, dropping bombs, stealing resources, and doing neoliberal and neoconservative policies, but then she couldn’t get a vote in the primary because she has no political talent. So then they forced her on Joe Biden as the Vice President, and then, of course, they did a coup just like Jim Gaffigan said at the Al Smith dinner.

After Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party, major newspapers’ mentions of racism and white supremacy went through the roof. That’s because, as Chomsky taught us, newspapers aren’t there to inform you. They are there to manufacture consent, and one of the great ways to manufacture consent for the establishment is to divide and conquer. That’s what identity politics is.”

Meme Zone

It was a neuroligical thing, actually.

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1850925495166349393
https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1850517807785742448

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

One of the most underrated comedies of all time.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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  2. No running with scissors.
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Ephesians 5:21-33

21Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. 25Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church, 30because we are members of his body. 31“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church; 33however, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

Please consider “subject to” rather than “subordinate” when considering that text.

Psalms 128:1-5

1Blessed is every one who fears the LORD, who walks in his ways! 2You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands; you shall be happy, and it shall be well with you. 3Your wife will be like a fruitful vine within your house; your children will be like olive shoots around your table. 4Lo, thus shall the man be blessed who fears the LORD. 5The LORD bless you from Zion! May you see the prosperity of Jerusalem all the days of your life!

Luke 13:18-21

18He said therefore, “What is the kingdom of God like? And to what shall I compare it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed which a man took and sowed in his garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air made nests in its branches.” 20And again he said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? 21It is like leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of flour, till it was all leavened.”

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Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Dear KMAG: 20241028 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

ischiorrhogic

adjective

  • of an iambic line, having spondees in the second, fourth or sixth place
  • in ancient prosody, noting a variety of iambic trimeter which has not only a spondee or trochee for an iambus in the sixth or last place, as in the choliamb, but a spondee in the fifth place also

Wolf’s easy alternative explanation

A kind of irregularity in old Greek poetry, which jazzes things up, but too much so, in the opinions of some.

LINK: https://academic.oup.com/book/34816/chapter-abstract/297701155?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

Links to further explain the definition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iamb_(poetry)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spondee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee

Used in a sentence

When the variation on the sixth foot of the trimeter coexists with a spondee in the fifth place, the verse becomes still more irregular, and can, in fact, hardly be considered an Iambic verse, but is rather a combination of an iambic diameter with a trochaic monometer. Such lines are called by the grammarians Ischiorrhogic (broken-backed) : they are very rarely used by Hipponax. LINK

It had something to do with Brokeback Mountain! I knew it!


MUSIC!

OK, we’re gonna fake it just a bit for the sake of continuity!

Orrible! Just orrible! But istoric, too! And istory is…..


THE STUFF

Shakespeare as a fan of then-modern science? Hmmmmm…….

“Double, double, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble…..”

Sure sounds like chemistry lab!

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


2024·10·26 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,720.80
Silver $33.78
Platinum $1,023.00
Palladium $1,106.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 130.618-
Gold:Silver 80.545-

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,748.70
Silver $33.77
Platinum $1033.00
Palladium $1219.00
Rhodium $4,950.00
FRNSI* 131.968+
Gold:Silver 81.395-

Palladium went absolutely bananas Thursday and Friday rising 96 bucks the first day and 37 bucks the second. Platinum went up a whole eight bugs then down three. (Somebody, please go wake platinum the hell up.) Silver managed to drop one cent, while gold showed a modest increase. (As such, the gold:silver ratio has gone up.)

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

The Moon and Flat Earth

Let us examine what we should expect to see when observing the Moon, assuming the usual flat earth model is correct.

We’ll start with this standard diagram.

It’s difficult to tie down exact distances, because the Flat Earthers have yet to come up with a map (as opposed to a diagram) complete with a scale, but apparently the Moon is claimed to be about 3000 kilometers above the plane of the Earth. There’s no official notion what the diameter of the disc is, either, but one could say that the distance from the north pole (at the center of the disc) to the outer rim (corresponding to the globe earth south pole) is 20,000 km since that is very roughly the distance on the round earth (globers have no hesitation in publishing exact figures). Alternatively since the glober circumference of the earth along the equator is ~40,000 km, we could say that that is the distance that should be measured along the circle of the equator, which means (via dividing by 2 x pi) the distance from the center to the equator is 6366.2 km. From the pole to the equator is 1/4 of the total distance across the circle, so the diameter of the entire disk is 25,465 km. (Which is actually fairly close to the globe earth circumference when that is expressed in miles, by coincidence.)

The Moon varies in declination from 28.7 S to 28.7 N, or to translate that into non-astronomese, that’s as far north or south as it gets. The Sun, by contrast, stays between 23.44 degrees S and N. (In globe earth terms, that’s the Earth’s axial tilt.) Every flat earth model I’ve seen shows the Sun going around and around on a daily basis, following a circle that grows or shrinks according to the seasons, withing these bounds on the flat earth; likely also about 3000km above the Earth. I’m going to assume the Moon behaves similarly only within the 28.7 S to 28.7 N bounds.

Here is a picture of the Moon, when it is directly over the equator, in the Flat Earth model. (Screen shot taken off a youtube video.)

The Moon is regarded by most Flat Earthers as a sphere, with some minority thinking that it, too is some sort of disk. Whichever one it is, when you look at a full moon, you see something like this:

However, it may be tilted clockwise (near moonset) or counter-clockwise (at moonrise), in other words the orientation may be different. This is lunar north pole at the top so it should be close to what you see when the moon is directly south of you, which should happen at about midnight on a full moon, provided you’re north of the moon.

And therein lies the first problem.

What if you are south of the moon at that moment? Like, for instance, living in Australia or South Africa or South America?

If the flat earth is correct, you should see a good part of the other side of the moon (if it is a sphere), since you’ll be “behind” the moon compared to the guy to its north. Not exactly behind the moon, so there will be some overlap between what the two of you see. The person south of the moon, in other words, should see some features you cannot see, and vice versa.

On the other hand, if the Moon is a disk (apparently the minority opinion in the flat earth camp), then…well, there are two sub cases. If the moon is pasted to the firmament so that it faces “down” to the Earth, than only people directly under it will see the moon as a circle; anyone else will see it as elliptical. If (on the other hand) it happens to be face-on to the viewer in the northern hemisphere, anyone not on that line of sight should see it as elliptical, and if they’re far enough away, they may even be seeing the opposite face of the disk.

Yet we’ve never seen a photograph of the back side of the Moon taken from Earth’s surface, not even a partial one. Nor have we seen pictures with the Moon distorted into an elliptical shape because the photographers are not face-on to it. Yet effects like these must happen if the Moon is as close as is claimed.

Here’s another issue. If you’re inside the circle that the Moon traces every day, you will be closest to the moon when it is directly south of you; if you’re outside of that circle, you will be closest to the moon when it is directly north of you. If you are actually very close to the moon’s latitude, it should pass by almost directly overhead, and be nearest at that time. Closer to moonrise/moon set it should be much further away.

If it’s further away, it should look smaller. Yet tracking the moon across the sky shows no change in its apparent size, no matter where you are.

Interestingly, these same issues would arise on Globe Earth, if the Moon were this close to it. If you saw the moon looking like the picture I showed, someone far away would be able to see features that you can’t, on the other side of the Moon. So the mistake here is not with the shape of the Earth, but rather, with the notion that the Moon is nearby.

All of these issues resolve if the Moon is far away, compared to our baseline (40,000 km for Flat Earth, or 13,000 km for Globe Earth). If the Moon is far enough away, two people standing 40,000 km apart will see almost exactly the same features on a spherical Moon, with the differences being seen oblique near the edges of what we see, so those differences would be hard to even tell apart.

How far away? Aristarchus of Samos who lived from 310-230 BCE (approximately) was able to do a computation, and got a value of roughly 130,000 kilometers. Others, like Hipparchus and Ptolemy, got 425,000 and 376,000 kilometers, respectively.

If numbers like these are even remotely correct–and they must be at a bare minimum, because we do not see the effects we would see (regardless of the shape of the Earth) if the Moon were closer to Earth–then there’s now a new problem.

If the Moon is that far away, two different observers on a flat Earth should see it in almost exactly the same direction, both altitude and azimuth. [Altitude: the angle above the horizon, with 0 being on the horizon and 90 being overhead. Azimuth: the compass bearing of the object. Generally 0 is considered to be due north, 90 degrees is to the east, 180 to the south, 270 to the west, and 360 is also due north.] This is because it is so far away that shifting a few thousand kilometers should make little difference, like taking two steps sideways and noting that light pole at the other end of the parking lot only seems to shift a little compared to the buildings in the distance. A 40000 km shift (from one edge to the other) against a moon 300,000 km away should lead to an angular shift of about seven and a half degrees.

Yet at the same time. different people can see the Moon low in the east, and low in the west, a difference of almost 180 degrees! OK, that one can be explained on Flat Earth. If I’m in Colorado, west is the same direction as east would be in India (check the diagram). [Also true for globe earth, in three dimensions.] But what about when the Moon is overhead for me, and low to the horizon for someone else, at the same time? There’s no way to make that work, for a distant object, on a Flat Earth. And we’ve established that the Moon must be distant.

Well, there’s only one way to solve that problem. The ground itself that you are standing on, cannot be oriented in the same direction as the ground of that other observer. To try to visualize this, it’s easiest to deal with plumb bobs; the lay of the ground (if the ground is horizontal) is perpendicular to the plumb bob. So if “horizontal’ is the same thing in two different places, the plumb bobs will be perpendicular to the same thing and thus parallel to each other. This would be the case on Flat Earth. A line of sight to a distant moon would form nearly the same angle to both plumb bobs, instead of very different angles, which is what we actually observe.

Therefore horizontal in one place, is not oriented the same as horizontal in the other place. The Earth cannot be flat. (What shape it actually is can be determined by collecting information about the orientation of the moon from various locations, all at the same time.)

As a post script, the same reasoning works for the Sun as well…though you have to have the proper equipment to see sunspots, otherwise the Sun is just a featureless sphere and you cannot tell whether two people far apart are looking at two different sides of it or not.

Oilworld

I know of a world where it rains, there are mountains, hills, streams and rivers and lakes, all under a nice thick atmosphere–thick enough you could strap on wings and fly! Not the dessicated nearly-airless rocks of the inner solar system, the roasting dry hell that is Venus, the deep-frozen (or totally volcanic) Galilean moons, the bottomless atmospheres of the gas giants.

Comparatively speaking this is nearly paradise!

Perhaps I have a second calling for writing real estate ads. Because what I haven’t told you is that this place is a frigid 93 K (-290 F)…so cold that water is a rock, a hard one, never a liquid. Those mountains are largely made of ice. The streams and rivers and lakes? Liquid methane and ethane, in some ways a lot like gasoline, but gasoline would be frozen solid here. If one could feel this stuff it would probably feel oily, not wet. The atmosphere is almost pure nitrogen; even if it weren’t at that frigid temperature you’d pass out and die breathing it. And it’s so smoggy that you’d never see the shrunken sun, nor much of anything else in the night sky.

I speak, of course, of Saturn’s moon Titan, which orbits at 1,122,870 km. (Compare to the Earth-Moon distance of 384,399 km.) Despite being almost three times further, this is still close enough to Saturn that, if you could see Saturn through the smog it would be 11 1/2 times as wide as the moon. Titan is almost precisely in Saturn’s equatorial plane, however, so the rings would be almost perfectly edge on. The orbital period is 15.95 days. Here it is, seen from an Earth-based telescope, a dot to Saturn’s upper right.

To remind people of what I said in the Moon roundup, major moons (the ones that are round) come in three sizes, large (7 of them), medium (9 of them) and small (three of them), for a total of nineteen. There are also five non-rounded minor moons about the size of those small major moons, we can call these “big” small moons, well, big small moons, or maybe medium-small.

The seven large major moons are: our own Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Titan and Triton. Titan happens to be the second largest of the Big Ones. It’s just a bit smaller than Ganymede, and it’s thus the 10th largest object in the solar system (including the Sun); it’s larger than Mercury. This is the only large major moon that Saturn has, so Jupiter has it beat. Or does it? Saturn has four of the medium major moons (out of nine total), and two of the three small ones, for a total of seven major moons. And for the cherry on top, two of the big five unrounded moons are also here. But we’ll cover the medium and small stuff later; today we focus on Titan, which is arguably the most interesting of the large (and major) moons.

Titan was thought to be larger than Ganymede until relatively recently; it turned out that astronomers were measuring the light-impenetrable atmosphere, and that was enough to make the difference and fool astronomers for decades. An understandable error; this is the only moon with a significant atmosphere; more so than ours in many ways.

And yes, there’s more than enough air pressure to allow stable liquids to form. (The only other world like that in our solar system is the one you’re sitting on.) The atmosphere is four times as dense as ours, yet the pressure is “only” 1.45 times our atmospheric pressure. The difference being largely due to Titan’s much lower surface gravity of 13.8 percent of Earths (our Moon’s gravity is higher, actually.)

After the Pioneer and Voyager missions, we realized that there could be liquids on Titan’s surface. The Hubble Space Telescope was able to add to the speculation by detecting more strong evidence.

So we decided that the next time we sent something to Saturn, we’d take a closer look at Titan.

A much closer look. As in, actually touching it.

The Cassini probe, named after one of the two scientists who first studied Saturn in depth, brought with it the Huygens lander…named after the other of those two scientists, the one who discovered Titan. From 2004-2017 Cassini was able, in its copious spare time while studying Saturn, to map Titan with its penetrating radar, and Huygens actually landed on Titan on January 14, 2005.

Radar is needed, because this is what Titan would look like to human Mark I eyeballs, in true color, no enhancements, no false color:

The color is good old smog.

With near infrared (“near” meaning it’s infrared at frequencies close to visible light), you see this:

This feature was actually first seen by the Hubble Space Telescope in 1994, though Cassini got a better look starting in 2003. The dark area is apparently a dune sea! (No, no Shai Hulud. Sorry, Coothie.)

So here is a map put together in 2016, with a lot of official names for features (open in a new tab for a much more legible rendering):

It looks like a bit of a patchwork quilt because Cassini could only do sharp imaging on those occasions where it was flying by Titan; it wasn’t dedicated to studying Titan, so many areas are just shaded polygons, or just very blurry. (In fact Cassini divided its time between studying Saturn itself and 20 different moons.)

As with any map like this, you won’t get a decent notion of the two poles, so here they are. In case you haven’t gotten my subtle hints that this isn’t very good real estate (never mind the billion mile one-way commute) you can scout out properties on the original images at over 3000 pixels width.

And now what you’ve been waiting for: Huygens’ descent to Titan’s surface. This just-under-five-minute movie is a time lapse, showing you the fish-eye image sent as the probe descended. Look to the sides, though, and you will see graphics reporting time, angles to the Sun and Cassini, which sensors are seeing what at any given time, altitude information, scale information…this thing is loaded; many of you will want to watch it a couple of times.

And in case you didn’t want to watch that, here’s the contrast-enhanced picture from the surface:

(Now go back and watch the movie.) Those rocks are almost certainly water ice.

Huygens is the only probe we’ve ever landed on a body that remains entirely in the outer solar system.

OK, so on to a bit more technical content. Here’s a cutaway of Titan, somewhat hypothetical, much like the one I found for three of the Galilean satellites a few weeks ago:

And yes…another liquid water ocean deep down! But we’re not completely certain that this is the correct model; note that the diagram specifies which model it is, which it wouldn’t have to do if we were certain of it.

The atmosphere is responsible for the fact we can have liquids on Titan; here’s a diagram of its layers:

Nearer the surface, we have this cross section, reminiscent of some notional cross sections we see for Earth:

On earth we have aquifers the top of which are the water table, and a lake is basically where the water table is above the surface. But here we have…an “alkanofer”?!? What the heck is that about?

(Dragging out the organic chemistry skis. Not a soapbox, skis. As in, getting out over my…) Alkanes are a class of molecule consisting of nothing but hydrogen and carbon. Every carbon uses all four of its bonds to connect to distinct atoms. The simplest alkane is methane, with one carbon, connected to four hydrogens, CH4. The next one up is a pair of carbons, connected to each other by one bond (carbon can double or even triple bond, but those cases wouldn’t be alkanes). The other three bonds for each carbon is connected to a hydrogen, for a total of two carbons and six hydrogens, C2H6; this is ethane. You can add a third carbon to the chain, to get propane (C3H8), a fourth to get butane (C4H10)…but now there’s an additional complication. With four carbons, they could form a chain, or a T, with one carbon in the “middle” connected directly to three other carbons. Either configuration will connect to ten hydrogen atoms. The chain is butane, the T configuration is isobutane.

And if you allow rings of carbon atoms (technically molecules with rings aren’t called alkanes, but rather cycloalkanes), you can have up to six different variations, called isomers. Four of them are shown below. Though the ones with rings don’t connect to as many hydrogen atoms, in the lower left is cyclobutane and note there are only eight hydrogen atoms.

(And yes, propane has a ring form too, but the chain is the only possible three carbon alkane.)

You can go on, and the higher you go the more isomers are possible, and this number grows rapidly. Leaving out cyclo- type isomers, you have 2 isomers for 4 carbons, three isomers for 5 carbons, five for 6 carbons, nine for 7 carbons, 18 for 8 carbons, 35 and seventy five for 9 and 10 carbons, respectively…and when you get to 32 carbons, there are over 27 billion isomers…again, no rings.

One trend is that the longer the alkane, the higher its melting point. Hence we have butane which is a liquid on earth at 0 C, and at room temperature with just a little bit of pressure (like in cigarette lighters), pentane which is liquid up to 34 C, and so on. Gasoline is largely made up of alkanes and cycloalkanes with (roughly) eight or so carbon atoms in them.

At the low temperatures on Titan, only the smallest alkanes will be liquid, but that doesn’t mean bigger ones don’t exist as sand or other forms of solid matter. Imagine a world you could scrape frozen crude off the ground.

Titan should, perhaps, be thought of as “Oilworld.”

What would it be like to swim on Titan? Pretending that the cold and lack of oxygen wouldn’t kill you within seconds, these liquids aren’t very dense, so you’d sink to the bottom of the lake or pond. Your best strategy might be to leap out of the “water,” rather than try to swim.

Life?

For those speculating about life, Titan has some advantages. It certainly has plenty of carbon, and those alkanes make good feedstock for building more complex molecules (which is why, for instance there’s so much smog there). But that life would almost certainly have to exist in that subsurface ocean…and we’re not even sure that that ocean is there, yet. Anywhere else, it’s simply too cold.

On the other hand, its atmosphere resembles the atmosphere on Earth, back before cyanobacteria and plants started producing oxygen. It’s likely Titan would have something to teach us about pre-biotic chemistry.

Future Missions

In 2028 Dragonfly will launch, and in the mid 2030s it will arrive at Titan. It will be a flying drone, powered by radioisotope thermoelectric generator, i.e., the heat from a chunk of plutonium 238 (which literally glows red, it’s so hot from radioactivity). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator). This is the way we power most of our probes to the outer solar system, however Juno and Europa Clipper did (and will) use large solar arrays (they have to be large because sunlight is very weak out there). Other unfunded ideas were for a hot air balloon, a probe that would float on one of the lakes, and even a submarine drone!

Titan is going to get a lot of attention in the future, that’s for sure.

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Dead heat?

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

It’s starting to go mainstream.

I frequently see many in the pro-Trump media space, saying not to be too confident, and don’t share polls/markets that show Trump winning, because it will make voters complacent and not show up to vote, etc. I think it’s the exact opposite. Victory is contagious. People are much more willing to take part in the game, if they think they are going to win. People commonly repeat “act like we are 10 points down”. How does that motivate the fence-sitters to go to the polls? This will make people feel defeated. People want to feel like their vote matters. Like they are a part of something significant. People want to win. If anything, I’d say this recent surge in Trump popularity and positivity is creating MORE Trump voters, because the stigma around Trump is dying. People are not afraid to openly support Trump anymore. The movement is infectious. Our confidence and vibes draw people towards us, and humans are naturally inclined to default towards the group. Liking Trump is cool now. Spreading positivity does not make us complacent. I think it creates more voters, by making us look more appealing to the undecideds, and motivating the disgruntled non-voters who feel like their vote does not matter. We give them hope that this time, things could be different. I don’t care what anyone says. Trump is winning, and if you want to be part of history, you will join us and vote Trump.

I am so grateful I woke up from whatever hypnosis that was that I was under. I apologize to conservatives, to religious people, to the mothers who were questioning the medicines and foods we gave our children. I didn’t realize how out of touch I was and how manipulated I was by the media and culture in general. I think it’s really important for people to set aside their tribalism and admit when they were wrong. So I’ll go first. 4 years ago I thought conservatives were bad rich white corporate people who hated the poor. I hated Trump (I believed what Canadian media said about him) but I probably couldn’t tell you one single thing that he did wrong or didn’t do right. I pretended like I knew what I was talking about when it came to politics but the truth is all I cared about was not voting conservative. I had such strong opinions about it and maybe I even thought I had done my due diligence. But the truth is I would open up the political platform days before voting day and read between the liberal and NDP parties platform highlights and choose from there. I had NO IDEA and no business voting. I hated the churches and thought religious people were brainwashed. I felt superior in my spiritual practices as if I knew better than thousands of years of peaceful people gathering to worship Jesus. Meanwhile I was drinking, I was partying and filled with anxiety and depression while I did these bandaid eastern wisdom practices that temporarily fixed small problems. I thought the anti-vaxxer moms were crazy and uneducated. In 2019 I went to social justice trainings because that was the thing back then and this is where I started to wake up. Not only did it not make sense…..it so clearly made things worse. And then I woke up. Not all at once. Bit by bit. It started with the visceral feeling that the sometimes well meaning social justice trainings were manipulative and encouraging division and hatred over healing. Then the pandemic and how the media handled it. Then the illegal and corrupt actions of our government. Then the realization that these medicines were causing more hurt than harm. Then my deep dive into understanding politics, geopolitics and the world’s history. Then I met Jesus. And everything else spiralled into place after that. I didn’t just “switch teams” – I’m not on a team. I’m just very very aware of history, the inner workings of politics, how the medical system works and what I need to do to have a good life. I know what it’s like to be a good person who simply doesn’t pay attention to the world beyond the surface of what media shows. There are many of us now. Be patient with people. They can change.

Meme Zone

Unlike my street where we are getting a new water main and there is gravel and dust everywhere. My car needs a bath. BADLY.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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Psalms 85:9-14

8Let me hear what God the LORD will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, to his saints, to those who turn to him in their hearts. 9Surely his salvation is at hand for those who fear him, that glory may dwell in our land. 10Steadfast love and faithfulness will meet; righteousness and peace will kiss each other. 11Faithfulness will spring up from the ground, and righteousness will look down from the sky. 12Yea, the LORD will give what is good, and our land will yield its increase. 13Righteousness will go before him, and make his footsteps a way.

Luke 12:35-38

35“Let your loins be girded and your lamps burning, 36and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the marriage feast, so that they may open to him at once when he comes and knocks. 37Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes; truly, I say to you, he will gird himself and have them sit at table, and he will come and serve them. 38If he comes in the second watch, or in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those servants!

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Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire