Fact Checker Lies – Disproving Phony (and Possibly Planted) Evidence to Discredit The Whole


I have made it a minor hobby to study the Soviet methodology of “fact checkers”, who have raised political lying to a fine art. I even now use the word “snopesing” for one such technique, which I discussed long ago on my old personal blog.


Anatomy of a False Snopes Debunking

Today I was happy to discover a textbook Google/Snopes false debunking, yet also with some interesting new elaborations that made it…

https://wolfmoon1776.wordpress.com/2017/02/18/anatomy-of-a-false-snopes-debunking/

That post was actually a fun re-read right now. I encourage you to check it out. Snopes basically took a huge victory for our side, and reframed it as “untrue” by using a misleading strawman.

REALLY. Y’all are so obvious, Snopes. “Nopes, Snopes.”

Basically the “Snopes” technique amounts to “disproof of an adjacent strawman”. In that technique, a FALSE COPY of what is to be disproved, is either found or constructed and then disproved. The disproof is headlined OVER-BROADLY, so as to appear to show that the truth was “debunked”. It leaves the liars’ enemy – truth-tellers – babbling “Bu-bu-bu-but that’s not the actual case – THIS OTHER THING is the real story.” Maybe so, but the truth didn’t get out ahead of the LIARS – nor did it come back FAST and EFFECTIVELY, making the liars “bleed from their eyes like furies”. The technique puts the truth on DEFENSE, even in the case of a WIN, like the example I gave.

Today we look at something similar in principle but different in what is lied about, which involves disproving not a similar strawman scenario, but instead a conveniently accusatory piece of fake evidence, in such a way that it looks like the larger thing which was supported is what is disproved.

In the same way that we condensed the Snopes example to “disproof of an adjacent strawman”, we can call this one “disproof of false shilled evidence”.

One could likewise call today’s technique “disproof of Judas facts”.

Getting the “Judas facts” picked up by a MARK for the other side is KEY. I’ve watched this in action before, so I know what to look for.

Here is today’s example.


LINK: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/aug/08/viral-image/photo-claiming-massive-crowd-trumps-aug-5-wisconsi/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/Y3l8s

This technique is actually a GREAT WAY of not just taking something down, but of negating something on its strongest point.

Allow me to explain how this works, from the Donkey Com perspective.

  • you are confronted with a Trump rally which was arranged fairly quickly, and was extremely well-attended. People are noticing. How do you get the Dem base not to notice that their peers are turning out for Trump, and to make sure they sneer at the NEXT Trump rally? How do you keep MAGA voters thinking THEY are a minority? How do you actually turn the facts around?
  • using different mechanisms and compartmentalization, you do the following
  • you have somebody tweet an even larger photo of a DIFFERENT rally, and have them claim it’s this rally. This is most likely a “fake MAGA” shill on Twitter. The best technique is to feed the fake photo to somebody like – OH – maybe a conservative commentator who is known to “borrow” and re-post photos without checking too closely. (This is a bit like “entrapment”, which we know the left never does.)
  • you request, call out, or perform a “fact check” on the photo, perhaps using a reliable “blue-check” on Twitter, or you feed it to your own “fact checkers” on Facebook
  • you “debunk the photo” in a misleading way, that makes it look like the Trump rally was actually small – not that one photo of it was too large and from a different rally
  • you make sure that the “mark” is sufficiently embarrassed and chooses to “go silent”, rather than to admit to the con job (which would enable crowdsource forensics) – then you go forward with the “fact check”

See how that works? It’s like a “debunking gun”.

Go back to the title above. What does it say?

Photo shows a “massive” crowd at a Trump rally in Wisconsin on Aug. 5, 2022.

What is next to the title?

So what EXACTLY is “false” here?

Now, the important MISTAKE that you are SUPPOSED to make here, when you don’t click the link, is to think that the Wisconsin Trump rally was not well-attended, and that “MAGA” had to resort to “fake pictures” to pretend that it was well-attended.

You’re supposed to put THAT fear-based or schadenfreude-gifting story into your brain, and just move on – don’t click on it. It’s PSYCHOLOGY.

The TRUTH is simply that the picture is of a DIFFERENT Trump rally, in Pensacola, Florida.

Here is the complete crux of the issue, which is admitted deep in the core of the “fact check”.

“But recent social media posts used an outdated photo to tout the size of the crowd.”

That’s it. It’s ALMOST the same “nothingburger” of BAD JOURNALISM that the left does all the time, and forgives itself for, routinely.

But don’t think I’m defending bad journalism – as you will see.

Thankfully, we can still see the DELETED TWEET where conservative talk show host Benny Johnson EXCITEDLY shared the image on Twitter.

BAD MOVE, BENNY. But good that somebody saved it.

LINK: https://www.truthorfiction.com/benny-johnsons-trumps-enthusiasm-is-bigger-than-in-2016-deleted-tweet/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/ldRqq

This analysis is from “Truth or Fiction” – a MUCH better “fact checker” site. As you can see, they are “showing their work”, so we can do some forensics.

Ask yourself – do you really think this Benny Johnson would tweet an easily confirmed “wrong picture” of the event if he KNEW it was a bogus picture? No. He’s not that stupid. But he WAS as stupid as I have been, sometimes, and forwarded a picture from a “surely reliable source” that turned out not to have been reliable.

If you remember TEN-GOP, then you know how easily people can be fooled on sources.

In my opinion, after looking over Benny Johnson’s Twitter, and reading this tweet, I think he really believed he was forwarding a picture of the rally. THEN, he was embarrassed by his own lazy image “borrowing”, and lack of fact-checking. In my opinion, it is likely that he was the victim of a rather smart discreditation operation, and is NOT simply a bald-faced and stupid liar. Loath to admit that he grabbed somebody’s photo off the internet and assumed it was real without checking or doing BASIC JOURNALISM, he just deleted the tweet and moved on, cutting his losses.

Could have even been an intern, for all we know. If so, TRAINING is needed (ask Wray!!!).

SO – bad journalist or both a bald-faced liar and stupid as hell? I’m going with bad journalist. At least for now. This seems confirmed by the opinion that Benny Johnson rarely deletes stuff that offends leftist sensibilities.

Normally, things would end there. Dude made a mistake. But that’s not what the left wants.

They want an ISSUE that they can exploit for MILLIONS of impressions.

So what they do is take the error and REFRAME IT exactly as you see.

They likewise use this for clickbait elsewhere, as a “FEATURED FACT-CHECK”, on OTHER “fact checks”. That is, in fact (cough), how I found this one – while looking at a NASA conspiracy theory debunking (which STILL does not work for me, but that’s A DIFFERENT STORY with far more troubling implications).



FALSE. That’s it. FALSE.

But let’s call the left on this a little bit.

Why didn’t the “fact checkers” call this MOSTLY TRUE? Why didn’t they call it “PARTIALLY TRUE”? Why did they not, at the least, call it “SOMEWHAT TRUE”?

They would CERTAINLY do that for a Biden rally or an Obama rally – AM I RIGHT?

A picture from a DIFFERENT Biden rally with 24 people instead of 12? Would that not get a pass? Maybe 120 instead of 12?

Let me speak for them. They would have been more honest.


“So while the photo is NOT a photo of the Biden rally in question, it is in fact a photo of a different Biden rally, taken during the 2020 election campaign.”

MOSTLY TRUE.


Here is how “PolitiFact” takes their carefully misleading question and goes from there to calling a well-attended Trump rally “false”, while pretending to just be honing in on an evidence problem.

PolitiFact conducted a reverse image search of the photo and found Trump’s son, Eric Trump, shared it on Twitter in November 2020. At the time, he used the image of a large, apparently pro-Trump crowd to push the false claim that the presidential election was rigged.

Molly Beck, a reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, quote-tweeted Johnson’s now-deleted tweet and said the photo in question was not from the Aug. 5 rally. She also pointed to Eric Trump’s tweet as the source of the photo.

The scene depicted in this older photo does not match photos shared by reporters who were on site at the Aug. 5 Wisconsin rally. Media photos show a smaller crowd and a different event layout.

In the older photo, two large screens that read, “The best is yet to come!” can be seen. This was a slogan often used by Donald Trump during his 2020 campaign.

Meanwhile, media photos from the recent rally show two screens displaying the event’s speakers, including Trump, as well as a large, blue sign that said, “Save America!”

Additionally, photos from reporters show there were three bleachers of roughly the same size behind the stage at the event. But in the 2020 campaign photo, there is one large set of bleachers in the center and two smaller sets to the left and right.

Our ruling

Social media posts shared a photo from Trump’s 2020 presidential campaign and claimed it was of an Aug. 5, 2022, rally in Wisconsin.

The photo in question does not show the Aug. 5 rally and can be traced back to a November 2020 tweet from Eric Trump. It also conflicts with several photos taken by reporters on site at the Aug. 5 Wisconsin rally.

We rate this claim False.

Whatever.


Conclusion

Now you know why it is IMPERATIVE to confirm materials from our sources. The left will ABUSE any error on our part.

AND – if it turns out that the source is suddenly dubious, you really need to DIG INTO the error, rather than running away.

BURN THE SOURCE TO GET TO THE TRUTH.

For me, the classic example of digging into a bogus meme and finding shocking truth was the ZIM shipping meme that Valerie brought here. I will not lie – Val brings an enormous amount of disinformation and CRAP here – but it was all worth it, to reset my thinking on how many of the elite skated on 9/11. She found some of the best circumstantial evidence, outside of convenient stock moves in the days preceding 9/11, that many top people knew the operation was coming. Whether these people were conspirators or just high-level would-be victims who got tipped, people knew the op was coming and did a GTFO.

Technically, the meme (which I cannot find now – it’s on Gab) was wrong on the length of ZIM’s lease at WTC, using waffly language to make 30 years of separate leases ending in a 10 year lease, into what was easily misconstrued as a 30-year lease. Likewise, it personified ZIM as the Rothschild family, who may or may not have been the controlling financial interest in the Israeli firm at the time. WHATEVER. Other than that, the meme was shockingly accurate in throwing 4 Suspicious Cats at ZIM’s ridiculously convenient and hasty move – despite a world of fact-checkers and “crusaders against antisemitism” waving their hands and saying “don’t look here”.

HA. The CHUTZPAH. It BURNS.

Closer to the current example, I watched a Breitbart journalist get set up with bogus information on Loretta Lynch – basically identifying the WRONG Loretta Lynch (a Clinton associate) as being Obama’s corrupt nomination to replace Eric Holder. This resulted in a defamatory article and a STEALTH RETRACTION BY BREITBART (“what article?”) – which was then (apparently) used to silence Breitbart completely on one of the most corrupt nominations in this nation’s history, since Loretta Lynch was a SORORITY SISTER of Eric Holder’s wife. Not a WORD followed on the REAL SCANDAL, after Breitbart was misled by SOMEBODY into publishing an ERROR.

Face the facts. CORRUPTION IS RAMPANT.

And they will say and do almost ANYTHING to cover it up.

We have ALWAYS got to be prepared for DISCREDITATION – but in my opinion, if you PUSH BACK on the discreditation and ADMIT YOUR ERROR – whatever it was – you automatically level up as a TRUTH WARRIOR. You will OFTEN find that the other side did something to entrap you.

Why?

Because WE value the truth and THEY do not.

PUT ON YOUR BELT, to hold up the PANTS OF CREDIBILITY.

Stick with the truth. No matter how unexpected, embarrassing, or unbelievable. At the same time, be BOLD in pointing out likely malfeasance, and MAKE THEM ANSWER OR RUN AWAY.

W

Plausibility

By which the HIDING of Means, Motive and Opportunity are accomplished through the use of the most obvious explanation as a form of both misdirection and social persuasion


NOTE:

The following post was written back in late February of 2020, and was finished in the state you see below on February 29 at 12:50 AM. What I’m now going to do is show you that post, UNCHANGED, and comment further at the end.

Recall before you read this, the taking down of QMAP just recently – it’s important.



THERE IS A SUBSET of “teachable moments”

that one could refer to as “red pill moments”, and this turns out to be one of them. Earlier, I decided not to let the above news about a serial killer pass in the comments HERE without comment…..

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/27/dear-kag-2020027-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-412232

…..but I have now decided to “go bigger” so that our entire movement can prepare for what is to come.

It is my belief that EVERYTHING Q has “belabored as factual” is NOT part of the “disinformation”, and thus will be revealed fully when the time is right.

ANTONIN SCALIA [187] is part of that truth.


Let’s look more closely at that image…..

For Zoe…..

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John Brennan Killed Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
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SC – Supreme Court.
RBG.
AS 187 / Clown Black (Brennan).
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Q Post 1161 from qmap.pub

If you go to QMap, this explanatory meme is given in proof for the post:

I’m not going to get into the theories of John Podesta’s potential involvement in any way. What I want to demonstrate is simply that the combination of EXPLOITABLE PLAUSIBILITY PLUS ACCESS (opportunity), CUI BONO (motive), and the most basic RESOURCES (means), are enough to CHANGE THE EQUATION on certain potential homicides which are PLAUSIBLY dismissed as “natural causes”.


Let’s start by looking at that serial killer more closely.

You can go to the link and read it all, or see part of it below.

LINK: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8047403/Serial-killer-illegal-immigrant-tied-THOUSAND-unexplained-deaths-indicted-murders.html

CONTINUED HERE: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8047403/Serial-killer-illegal-immigrant-tied-THOUSAND-unexplained-deaths-indicted-murders.html


I urge you to read the rest at the link above.

Here is the critical part:

Many of the deaths now attributed to Chemirmir were first listed as deaths by natural causes as no foul play was suspected. 

However, once he was identified as a suspect in Harris’ death in March 2018, detectives began reviewing hundreds of natural death cases to attempt to identify other potential victims. 

Notice how DIFFICULT it is to separate the SIGNAL of “forcibly induced natural causes” from the NOISE of “natural causes”. Old people stop breathing and they die – this happens all the time.

But when it is FORCED to happen RIGHT NOW, because the TIMING benefits somebody, it’s MURDER.

Barring the presence of a NANNYCAM – meaning a hidden security camera watching either children or the elderly – it is wickedly hard to prove such a murder.

And speaking of NANNYCAMS, is incredibly useful to read the following two articles:

Chinese woman arrested at Mar-a-Lago while Trump was in town

LINK 1: https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190402/chinese-woman-arrested-at-mar-a-lago-while-trump-was-in-town

Woman arrested at Mar-a-Lago had device for detecting hidden cameras

LINK 2: https://www.cnet.com/news/woman-arrested-at-mar-a-lago-had-device-for-detecting-hidden-cameras/

This woman was almost undoubtedly some kind of Chinese spy – either an amateur working for pros, or a pro disguised as an amateur. In any case, this was a STATE-LEVEL OPERATION. You can be certain that the CIA has AS GOOD or BETTER EQUIPMENT.

This woman had EXACTLY what would have been needed as part of any state-level murder of Antonin Scalia.

NOW – let’s look at the Scalia case.

LINK: https://nypost.com/2016/02/13/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dead-at-79/

You won’t get much out of this article, except for a Trump tweet (very interesting)…..

…..and the following section, which leads to much more interesting stuff.

Antonin Scalia, the longest-serving justice on the Supreme Court, was found dead Saturday at a luxury resort in West Texas, officials said.

The body of the 79-year-old leader of the court’s conservative bloc was discovered in his room at the Cibolo Creek Ranch after he failed to show up for breakfast, the San Antonio Express News reported.

Scalia died apparently of natural causes. He had arrived at the ranch on Friday and attended a private party along with about 40 people.

The link in this section goes to an EXCELLENT article in the San Antonio paper:

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch

LINK: https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php

This link has DOZENS of photographs and detailed information.

There is also ANOTHER article by the same paper, with more photos, including of the actual suite used by Justice Scalia.

Inside the West Texas ranch where Antonin Scalia was found dead

LINK: https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/texas/article/Inside-the-West-Texas-ranch-where-Antonin-Scalia-6829290.php

Additional photos give a strong idea of (1) how remote and isolated this ranch is, and (2) how approachable from all sides, by trained operatives, it would be, at night. It could also be under nearly perfect satellite surveillance at all times.

But who knows.

It’s a strange and lonely ranch. Who knows what kind of things go on there?

W


/end of 2/29/2020 post – beginning of 9/22/2020 post/

I am revisiting this post, and finally publishing it, in light of RBG’s passing, but even more in light of Sadie’s comments about “double” theories of RBG.

I do not personally subscribe to these “double” theories, but I find them extremely useful as (1) likely disinformation to protect actual politics and scandal around RBG and SCOTUS, and (2) helping us to examine RGB more closely, in relationship to Antonin Scalia’s passing.

Their close friendship was likely pivotal, but not in a bad way as far as RBG was concerned. I believe they were true and deep friends. Sadly, but logically, and understandably, it is the job of intelligence agencies to exploit such relationships. I repeat – it is their JOB. That job is generally good, but it can be abused.

Back to “double” theories.

For example, thanks to examination of the “double” theory, and in particular the facts around RBG suddenly doing several dramatic things immediately AFTER the November 2014 election, it becomes quite clear TO ME that her end-life was highly managed by aides, DNC big-wheels, and potential operatives of all kinds.

Note that a DNC official who got RBG to officiate her WEDDING in August is now being BLAMED by many Democrats for Ruth’s death by COVID – which is not in evidence, but which could easily be true, and could even more easily have been covered up – “because DNC OFFICIAL”.

LINK 1: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/rbg-officiates-wedding-bride-blamed-death/

LINK 2: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8749607/Ruth-Bader-Ginsburgs-public-appearance-Justice-officiated-wedding-family-friends.html

People of Ruth’s age and medical condition are extremely vulnerable, but it is very hard to “assign blame”. When I had probable COVID-19 in January/February of 2020, I was WITH 80 and 90-year-old people immediately before and afterwards, and in the middle of my infective period, I decided not to visit a nursing home filled with such people, who I would have interacted with DIRECTLY.

And yet, at the event where I most likely GOT the disease, several people in that HIGHLY VULNERABLE age group didn’t catch anything. This is very similar to the “novel coronavirus cruise ship” – a VERY well-studied outbreak of COVID-19. Transfer of the disease in that case was highly random and not super-easy, and spared many people who one might think would have gotten it.

LINK: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/

After the 2014 election, RBG underwent risky major surgery, changed her style of glasses to much thicker ones, and began wearing gloves more frequently. In my opinion, the gloves were used to hide the IV marks on her hands. Joe Biden – similarly being abused as a kind of “power carcass”, cannot hide the IV marks and bruises. This was very enlightening to me.

Yes, it’s not exactly unexpected. No, it’s not as sexy as a “double”. But it’s still very useful information, because it HELPS TO SHOW MOTIVE.

After the 2016 election, similarly, RBG was whisked off to somewhere (I think it was Nevada), and there were interesting medical leaks to the anon community that she was undergoing VERY expensive therapy at a VERY exclusive facility.

Clearly, holding RBG’s seat became a BIG DEAL after both the 2014 and 2016 elections failed to produce a favorable climate for her replacement by somebody MORE LEFT-WING. Thus, I believe that her seat was pivotal in ways which were not “fixable” by just any replacement. I am now thinking that it is likely because she was a tactical investment by CIA to spy on SCOTUS in general and Scalia in particular, and Obama and Brennan were loath to replace her with somebody more centrist (and perhaps not a CIA asset) like Merrick Garland.

Which ALL leads to where I am now.

I think it’s possible that *SOMEBODY* has evidence that the TIMING of Scalia’s death was not an accident.

A lot more was riding on it than just some jewelry and cash in a nursing home.

I am not ready to rest my case. In fact, these are just my opening arguments.

And I’m still running down more facts.

W

See also:

The RBGQ Color Space

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/01/06/the-rbgq-color-space/

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA – Evidence Discussion 01 – Weissmann Panic in DC

OK, people. PRO or CON, you have all gotten your Sundance YA-YAs OUT OF YOUR SYSTEMS on the other thread, namely:

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA (With A Foreword by Attorney General William Barr)

I am now asking that all discussion of “YAY” or “NAY” on Sundance be kept on THAT THREAD.

You want to fight about whether you trust Sundance? Keep it on that thread. I do NOT want ANY of that stuff on this thread, and that includes ME responding to you. I will not delete your post and leave mine – I will delete MY response as I realize what I’m responding to, then your post.

We are ONLY going to be talking about Sundance’s new assertions and evidence PER SE and what we think about them. Not “in general” – very specifically. Fighting over Sundance as a source will be ejected from this thread WITH PREJUDICE. That includes waffly “not so sure about this” questioning of the evidence, as a sneaky way to bring “anti-Sundance Eeyorism” [oh, I love the KARMA on that one] into the discussion. GOT LOGIC? Good. We like LOGICAL THINKING because we’re Q followers.

Advice? LURK if you can’t zip your fly and restrain from pissing on SD. Since I can’t BAN FROM THREADS, I’ll just DELETE YOUR POSTS.

Understood? Good.

We have free speech – and some of it is over THERE so that those of us who want to actually discuss the evidence can do so here.

This is like a Trump rally. We have a demonstration zone which has just as big a digital footprint as this one – it’s just OVER THERE.

HERE WE GO.


Sundance is now showing more strongly his theory that the Mueller SC, really the Weissmann SC, is central to the coup. This is TODAY’S TWITTER TIMELINE.


What do you think? I have some thoughts here, and I want to see if anybody ELSE is thinking what I am. What I am thinking is something I suspected WEEKS AGO, based on several Sundance assertions that seemed just a bit “too knowing”. These tweets revived that suspicion.

I want to see if any of YOU ALL are thinking the same thing.

BUCKLE UP!

W

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA (With A Foreword by Attorney General William Barr)

Get it all in here, fellow cultists!

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1294116739127681025

This thread is meant to contain most of the fighting over Sundance’s upcoming revelations about DOJ, and whatever AG. Bill Barr seems to be doing to preempt those revelations.

We will spawn more threads as needed over the next few days.

BUCKLE UP!

W

Why Won't WaPo's Devil N. Barrett Cover Andy McCabe Testifying Against Comey, Lynch and Brennan?

PUBLIC THREAD: Because this is meant for public consumption, I will refrain from the usual colorful language of our work threads, where I normally don’t give a damn. I want people in Washington to see this article with NO EXCUSES to look away.


Consider this article a terrorist device – an information land-mine – which I have placed INSIDE the Washington Monument, up near the top, from where its DEADLY SAVING RAYS will pass harmlessly through all TRUTH-TELLERS and will BURN LIARS, SCOUNDRELS, and SEDITION-ASSISTING FAKE NEWS JOURNALISTS.

It’s on, brothers and sisters. I say as I listen to the choppers outside my window, somewhat earlier than usual.

If you have not followed my initial outrage at Andy McCabe getting “no charges” for lying to the OIG, or the slow “coming to realization” over three more decreasingly outraged and increasingly savvy posts, then here you go – follow my schooling in the construction of information terror devices:


LINK 0: NO JUSTICE

LINK 1: WORK THREAD: How In The Hell Did McCabe Skate?

LINK 2: WORK THREAD: Department of Justice Deconstruction Begins

LINK 3: WORK THREAD: How I Now Believe “Dead Eyes” Bromwich Got Dirty Andy McCabe Off


Within these posts, there is critical information from SUNDANCE over at The Conservative Treehouse. However, there is NEWER information from Sundance which is even MORE helpful to understand where I’m at right now.

The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

I believe it is EXTREMELY USEFUL to read this Sundance post, in order to put the big picture together. Sundance and I are seeing the same reality from two different vantage points. Once you understand it all, Sundance ends with a very helpful metaphor for the current situation.

Please read it NOW, and then I will restate the metaphor for your convenience.

(Full Stop – read the Sundance piece, linked above.)

Here is the metaphor / prophecy / orders from Trump transcribed by Sundance / whatever:

The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire.  General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

[pot-stirring tweet by Devil N. Barrett – i.e., this guy is one of the arsonist FAKE firefighters]

[two Trump tweets breaking out the Zippo – i.e., justice is coming, FAKE NEWS]

President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court.  The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here.  With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…

Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse

SO – if you’re following all that, and not “playing stupid” like a typical lefty journalist, and not afraid to talk in a bit of “Q lingo”, then you realize that what Sundance is describing is remarkably similar to “The Plan”. But I’m starting to agree with Sundance that we should not simply “rely” on The Plan. In fact, we may find it prudent to MAKE OUR OWN PLANS – if only because INDEPENDENCE is being taught to us again.

Now – having been sent on a bit of an emotional “ride” by the Soviet Fake News, which published information about McCabe WALKING, but without stating the OBVIOUS REASON, I have chosen to extract my payback by rubbing the Pinocchio nose of the Fake News in THAT OBVIOUS REASON.

If you have been following our WORKING THREADS here, then you, too, know the obvious reason.

  • McCabe drops his suit against FBI and DOJ
  • almost at the same time, Barr announces that Durham is now a CRIMINAL investigation
  • later, DOJ announces no charges or further legal action against McCabe

Now, before I GO THERE, I want to first thank fellow Q Tree denizen trumpismine for a link to information which explained much of the FIRST two items in the list. I also want to thank three of the many people on this site – JasonD, michaelh, and Gail Combs – who proved very strongly that the DOJ has an irrefutable CASE against McCabe – that guidelines clearly call for charges.

So HERE is where we get into the meat of our accusation against the mainstream media.

We all know that the [recused] Sessions DOJ tried strongly to not only plug leaks, but to punish leaks, and to prevent new ones – and ultimately they did. The Rosenstein-Liu DOJ – not so much, with the James Wolfe leak going unpunished and covered up. Otherwise, a pretty tight ship.

But next to AG Barr, these previous DOJs look like SIEVES. AG Barr and Director Wray have PROVEN that they can keep a strong lid on investigations. Whatever you might think of these two, they have brought back the GOLD STANDARD of the old DOJ-FBI in terms of keeping ongoing investigations on the DOWN LOW. If you don’t respect it, you’re not paying attention.

This means, quite simply, that the reason we are not hearing leaks about “things” going on inside DOJ and FBI, is almost with complete certainty because they are running a TIGHT SHIP once again.

SO – IN THAT CONTEXT – if you combine the mysterious three items in the list above – [ 1 + 1 + 1 ] – there is no question what the answer is.

McCABE TOOK A DEAL.

And we’re not talking about a “deal” that involves getting an extra scoop of ice cream at a White House function. We’re talking about TALKING.

Let me spell this out so that even a CIA embed at the Washington Post like GUILTY SPYGATE HACK Devil N. Barrett can understand this.

Former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe is testifying against his superiors and others:

  • certainly James Comey
  • likely Loretta Lynch
  • probably John Brennan
  • certainly White House officials (remember Page/Strzok texts)
  • possibly Congressional aides
  • certainly the media contacts who understood the falsehoods being promoted

Oh, wait – wasn’t there some conspiracy theory about this called “QAnon” or something?

SHEESH!

Look, friends. It is ONE THING for us to sit here and talk amongst ourselves about all this stuff, but as far as I’m concerned, that is OVER. The FAKE NEWS trolled us with “McCabe No Charges”, when THEY KNEW THE TRUTH AND HID IT.

So now it’s time to take our ORDERS from TRUMP, as TRANSMITTED and TRANSLATED by Sundance:

President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

Sundance

So that is what I’m doing. It is time to make these Fake News Bastards (whoops, sorry) print the truth about what is happening in SpyGate.

I mean, you wouldn’t want to drop this meme on Devil N. Barrett’s timeline.

Or this one:

Or especially this one:

Here’s to you, Ratseclisa. NOW I understand why I accidentally named you that.

W

PS – all of the above is stated CONFIDENTLY despite THIS BULLSHIT PSY-OP fed through Andrew McCarthy of the National Review to the contrary (and also laughingly at the last minute):

LINK: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-wasnt-andrew-mccabe-charged

Yeah, right, you stupid hack footstool-bearer of Trotskyist pseudo-cons. SPARE ME. Don’t give me that complicated, hand-wringing, bu-bu-bu-bu-bu…. bullshit. Tell your idiot berg-bosses that STALINSKY and her COUP CREW still have an ice pick for them. GROW UP!

For you, Deep State Coup plotters, it’s TOO LATE. No more lies. You coup plotters are going DOWN. Your desperation is showing. Now you must LIVE YOUR FEAR OUT IN THE OPEN.

And for YOU, Media Muffins, there is NO MORE RESPECT as long as you are FAKE NEWS. Start telling the truth or GO DOWN WITH THE COUP.

WORK THREAD: How In The Hell Did McCabe Skate?

WARNING: Do not post on this thread unless you are addressing the question. All other responses will be sent to trash. No rah-rah, no Eeyore, no praise, no prayers, no Q, no “[whatever] Trust [whatever]”, no whatever. Take it back to the Open Thread.

LURK if you must. DO NOT POST.

Violators will be temp-banned. Get used to it. Bad Wolf is in the War Room. He’s gonna make Sundance look like a softie. And there is FIGHTING in the War Room. Civility rescinded. Namby Pamby better get her ass out of here. I’m gonna make her cry with her widdle bullshit. We’re here to take down Ratseclisa and all her nasty coup friends.


Now – riddle me this – how the fuck did McCabe skate?

As far as I’m concerned, we got “OJ justice” on this. I hope you see what I did there. I reminded you that there is extremely strong precedent for the most “slam dunk” (COUGH) *MURDERER* getting off when PC, communism, shit-head media (remember what they did to Mark Fuhrman?), corrupt and ineffective criminal justice, and all that shit intervenes.

There are no guarantees here that whatever got McCabe off won’t work for Comey, Brennan, and all the others. No guarantees. And remember – in the OJ case, the forces of evil were not even CONTROLLING THE INSIDE. Yeah, the “Hollywood” prosecutor’s office was highly compromised in 1000 ways, but it’s not nearly as bad as what we have here, with the wrong tribe basically in control of the reservation, and Chief Barr nominally in charge but – well, something is not right. Cigar store Injun?

NO amount of “tick tock” saves this. NO amount of “trust the plan” saves this. No amount of breathless Hannity saves this. No amount of Sara Carter’s fucking tits saves this.

Yeah, I get all the morale stuff – I’m not a fucking idiot, you know. But this is fucking war now and I don’t have time for stuff that keeps the merry band happy when we’re designing an actual battle plan. It’s GARBAGE – keep it out of my way when I’m in the War Room.

I was trying to figure out WHY this bothered me so much. WHY the moving goal posts of Q were just not working for me. THIS is why.

Very simple – I want to figure out what THE HELL happened here, construct a massive logic bomb based on that, and position it somewhere in front of everybody’s sliding goal posts. It’s time to make Q, Barr, Wray, and everybody else who is not named TRUMP live up to more rules than “somebody can get into Wolf’s WordPress account and impress him.” FUCK THAT SHIT. Ratseclisa’s FIB friends can do that, and very likely ARE doing that. I have FIB planes flying over me every week in their little planephag chaos circles. Can Q send planes? NOT IMPRESSED.

I trust TRUMP. I’m starting to demand bona fides from everybody else.

W

Lurking Advisable

Department Of Jussie

Sorry, boys and girls and TWITTER CENSORS – yes – that’s something called a MEME – namely of OUSTED Swamp Rat “Jussie” K. Liu…..

…..but the REAL ONE IS FAR WORSE (hint: read the caption carefully)…..

…..So now where were we? AH, YES…..

…..How the DOJ Became Terminally Infected with Criminal Communist Democrats, and Needs to Be NUKED with RADIATION and CLEANSED with CHEMOTHERAPY…..

…..How The ULTIMATE MOTIVE for SpyGate and THE HOAX, as Part and Parcel of THE COUP…..

…..Was to prevent President Trump from DISINFECTING the CORONA-INFECTED DOJ in the same way that Bill Clinton INFECTED IT…..

…..by FIRING all the CRIMINALS who hide behind communist-issued STAY OUT OF JAIL FREE cards of RACE, GENDER and ETHNICITY…..

…..And how you don’t catch the biggest BOTTOM-FEEDERS in the DOJ…..

…..Or The Judicial Branch Itself…..

…..without the STINKIEST BAITS that will STAY ON THE HOOK…..

…..And Maybe Some IRREGULAR WARFARE.

NOW – some people may not have the stomach for the fight…..

…..But WOLF MOON ain’t one of ’em! So STAND BACK, as WARPATH WOLF is putting his INFORMATION GUNS behind our great COMMANDER *AND* CHIEF…..

…..Sit back and drink it all in, as WOLF MOON argues for TOTAL WAR NOW against the corruption, making DRAIN THE SWAMP our battle cry to clean out every last one of these LEGAL POSERS who have brought SOVIET “JUSTICE” to AMERICA and imposed it on an unwilling occupation populace.

Yes, my friends. Now. RIGHT NOW is the TIME….

To chase these corrupt, criminal, socialist Democrat BERNIE BROS and BERNIE SISTERS completely OUT OF DOJ!!!


OK. Let’s take this a bit slower, for those who don’t understand why NOW is the time to lay waste to the communists and traitors embedded in DOJ.

In the language of fishing, they have TAKEN THE BAIT.

Before I explain what I BELIEVE we need to do next, you have to understand what kind of BOTTOM FEEDERS we are dealing with.

These people are LAYERS OF TRAPS – wicked DIRTY COPS like James Comey and Bob Mueller – BAD PROSECUTORS like Andrew Weissmann – CORRUPT JUDGES like Amy Berman and Tanya Chutkan.

They have been infiltrating DOJ and the Judicial branch for a LONG TIME, often under their favorite cover – as a sympathetic, pliable, pobricito or pobrecita member of a liberal protected class – you know – such as Janet Reno, who wouldn’t hurt a fly…..

…..who ushered in Eric Holder – the communist radical who was most responsible for compromising DOJ during the Clinton administration…..

These people LOOK for opportunities to SET PEOPLE UP and then SILENCE them, CONTROL them, or GET RID OF THEM.

I have been dealing with these people for a LONG time. If you want to BEAT them, you have to BLOW UP THEIR TRAPS. You have to make the entrapment BACKFIRE spectacularly.

The way FISH do this to HUMANS is by nibbling the bait but not actually taking it. Fishing is basically a contest between WARY fish who try to CON humans into giving them food, and HUMANS trying to CON fish into taking an easy meal that turns the FISH into THEIR MEAL.

But if the fish REALLY want to get some JUSTICE, they…..

  • take the bait
  • pull the fisherman into the water
  • drag the rod and reel off into the depths
  • tie the fishing line hopelessly in the underwater brush
  • spit out the hook
  • break water in a huge splash, showing everybody WHO’S THE FUCKIN’ BOSS

And when BOTH SIDES are HUMANS, it becomes more evenly matched, and you can have REAL fishing for the fisherman, as the TRUMP FISH catches the OBAMA-HOLDER-LYNCH DOJ FISHERMAN fishing illegally and out of season, and SENDS THEM ALL TO JAIL.

Yes, you thought fishing was simple, but it’s actually a complicated business.

Something that is very important here is not to react to ALINSKY FEARS.

Yeah, THAT Alinsky.

Alinsky reminded his fellow COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS that “fear of the thing is greater than the thing”, and thus that they should at all times instill FEAR in the other side, even when “they don’t have a damn thing”.

Sound familiar?

Alinsky fear-mongering works really well on people who can best be described as “concernies“. However, it DON’T WORK ON DA WOOF. And I want it to NOT WORK ON YOU, TOO.

One really has to learn to ignore – at an emotional level – absolutely ALL fear-casting by Communist Democrats. Take it all in logically, evaluate it logically, and ACT logically, but…..

IGNORE ALINSKY FEARS.

Trust me – I’ll take an honest pro-life lava monster that just wants to lay eggs in peace over Communist Democrat baby-killing LIARS any day of the week – PAST or FUTURE.

BUT HARK – let us get back to the question of “WHY NOW?”.

Well, now I have to remind you of my last post, in which I explained how we have these Communist Democrats OVER A BARREL on *THEIR* RUSSIAN COLLUSION, thanks to Jussie K. Liu.


How President Trump Just Obtained Nuclear Superiority Over The Swamp

https://wqth.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/ap_830323019-1880×1251-1.jpg?w=1100

It is now very important to RECONFIGURE YOUR THINKING about what is going on in Washington. They are going to try to distract you with LOOK, SQUIRREL….. when the thing you should really be looking at is the LIU-K, WOLFE! President Trump, in firing (in two brilliant steps) the CORRUPT Jessie K. Liu, has just …

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/12/how-president-trump-just-obtained-nuclear-superiority-over-the-swamp/


This prior post was based on the great work of SUNDANCE at THE LAST REFUGE, who spotted the most significant Jussie Liu cover-up of them all – the JAMES WOLFE LEAK.

Yeah, she is guilty of a LOT – the Awan Brothers cover-up, the many Stone injustices, and much, much more, but the Wolfe leak and where that leads is a MINEFIELD for Communist Democrats, because it reverses the bogus “first attempted impeachment” charge of “Russian collusion” and – OMG – it makes it REAL.

Only it’s THE DAMN DEMOCRATS who did it!

Notice that I said – more or less – that “Roger Stone is the distraction”, and “Mark Warner’s collusion with Putin’s errand-boy Dirtypasta to set up Trump is what they are distracting from”.

I repeat more slowly.

COLLUSION.

OF DEMOCRATS.

WITH RUSSIANS.

TO SET UP TRUMP.

And this would include the Jussie Liu cover-up of – O. M.G. – the real mission of one Maria Butina from some place called Russia.

Seems I talked about this a while back. WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW.


VLWC 02: Gun-Grabbin’ Vlad’s Gun-Lovin’ Girl


One of THE BEST windows into Russia’s REAL position on the 2016 election is Vladimir Putin’s “NRA spy”, Maria Butina.  Yeah, I will admit that I think this gal is smoking hot, in a Euro-floozy, Moscow-to-Washington-to-Tennessee, mail-order mama, “I fell in love at a gun show” way. But that’s not the only reason I love …

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/17/vlwc-02-gun-grabbin-vlads-gun-lovin-girl/


I urge you to read the above post. GOOD GRIEF was I “on target”. I even called out Jussie Liu, and I had completely forgotten about it! (Of course, I didn’t call her “Jussie” back then, because Kamala Harris and Corey Booker hadn’t teamed up with Jussie “Red Diaper” Smollett at that point.) Heck – I even forgot about the Russian asset who tried to work on me after Sandy Hook! [Note that I did NOT mention FACEBOOK’S separate role in the Sandy Hook plot in this article – that’s an interesting story, too. I’ll save THAT for later.]

Back to the “Stone deflection”.

I’m not saying that we can’t beat the Communist Democrats to an absolute PULP over Roger Stone.

We CAN, and we SHOULD.

But we must not forget the REALLY BIG CRIMES – which the Communist Democrats are desperately trying to distract us from.

The reason you can tell they absolutely want to hide the “Wolfe Leake”, is (1) Democrats in the House and Senate ONLY want to talk about Roger Stone, and (2) nobody will even breathe a word of response to the Wolfe Leak cover-up and Warner collusion related to it. It’s TOO EXPLOSIVE. The TALKING POINTS don’t even exist.

Maybe PUTIN and XI don’t have them ready yet. I don’t know – ASK JUSSIE LIU. Maybe SHE knows.

And remember – Dianne “Chi-Fi” Feinstein is only a breath away from that same corrupt intelligence committee (the SSCI) on which she served previously, all the while with a Chinese spy as her OFFICE MANAGER.

As Wheatie always reminds us…..

WHATEVER THE DAMN DEMS DID WITH RUSSIA, WHAT THE DAMN DEMS DID WITH CHINA WAS A THOUSAND TIMES WORSE.

I have a rule of thumb for FINDING THE FISH now. Including the LARGEMOUTH ASS.

All we have to do is look at all the things that little Jussie Liu covered up, side-tracked, sabotaged, or derailed, to find what it is we need to bring down the Communist Democrat criminal axis in DOJ.

So – we could WAIT for the Democrats to SPIT OUT THE HOOK…..

NAH. I don’t think so.

Oh, do they want impeachment again?

SET THE DAMN HOOK!!!

IMPEACHMENT AHOY!!!

And while we’re at it, SET THE ROD, TOO!!!

W

PS – I think Schumer is worried.

Yeah, he’s worried. And it goes back. Who were the people who created the deeply Cloward-Piven 1994 Clinton Crime Bill? Schumer, Biden & The Clintons.


Top 10 Reasons I Believe the Clinton 1994 Crime Bill Was a Masterpiece of Communist Revolutionary Subversion

Tell us ALL ABOUT America, Chuckles. ALL about it.

Radium Rod

Well, I was right. I didn’t want to believe it, but I was right.

That DAMN Deep State. Or “DS” as I like to call them.

You see, thanks to WHEATIE WARRIOR…..

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/dear-kmag-20200110-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-360654

And Sharyl Attkisson…..

And FBI White Hats…..

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215290507250880512

I now know the truth.

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215284615423975427

SAY WHAT?

You mean all that stuff I was sayin’ ’bout “Radium Rod” and DOJ/FBI hanky-panky was RIGHT???!!!

Following that tweet up on Sharyl’s timeline is the best way to see this.

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215293809992642567

Here is a 1-2-3 thread…..

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215294102746648579
https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215294391503462403

So what’s next? Well, somebody asked.

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215294645242036226

And people ARE starting to take notice!!!

Above link echoed here: https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rod-rosenstein-led-operation-to-spy-on-sharyl-attkisson-developing/

Some of this stuff is just frigging explosive. The ties to CROWDSTRIKE (click the link) – this is just mindboggling. It’s as if DOJ was a Democrat Hillary Reelection Operation.

I’ll let Sharyl finish her part of this….

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1215367155937464320

Now – I’m somewhat in the same boat as Sharyl. I don’t want to just come out and say that Radium Rod is a black hat, without knowing more, but DAYUM.

This would certainly explain WHY the FBI was trying to SET ME UP even during Whitaker, and why the CRAP didn’t stop until Rosey was GONE and BARR was SWORN IN.

And yes – it is entirely possible that White Hat Rosey could have been playing Black Hat to bag the bad guys, because Occam’s Razor gives WRONG ANSWERS when all the FACTS are not in evidence, or when there is DECEPTION involved.

But nevertheless, it looks like RADIUM ROD has some EXPLAINING to do.

W

Warning sign : nuclear danger

SpyGate Book Sneak Peek

If you’re a fast reader, you have THREE DAYS to check out an author copy of an e-book/paperback on SPYGATE, free of charge, before deciding if you want to buy it.

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Here is his message, LINK HERE: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/05/dear-kmag-20200105-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-355751


Ok everyone, as promised, I am posting my book in its ENTIRITY on my blog for three days only. I welcome comments, suggestions, critiques, etc/. I feel NOW is the time that we should be spreading the word. It is why I am doing this.

All I ask is that you NOT copy it. If you like it, spread the link, if you LOVE it either buy it or spread the book link which I will post on top of the article.


There you have it. ENJOY!!!

W

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A Higher Loyalty: Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, a.k.a. HSBC

Wherein we postulate that the real driver of James Comey and Spygate comes straight out of CHINA-PWNED BANKSTERISM – that the Clinton relationship to China may actually be “handled” via HSBC, and that the fact that the entire international cast of Spygate is nearly perfectly matched by the amoeba-like shadow of HSBC is no accident.

So WHO or WHAT is HSBC?

AND I QUOTE:

HSBC Holdings plc is a British[6] multinational investment bank and financial services holding company. It was the 7th largest bank in the world by 2018, and the largest in Europe, with total assets of US$2.558 trillion (as of December 2018). HSBC traces its origin to a hong in Hong Kong, and its present form was established in London by the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation to act as a new group holding company in 1991.[7][8] The origins of the bank lie mainly in Hong Kong and to a lesser extent in Shanghai, where branches were first opened in 1865.[1] The HSBC name is derived from the initials of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation.[9] The company was first formally incorporated in 1866.[10]

HSBC has around 3,900 offices in 65 countries and territories across Africa, Asia, Oceania, Europe, North America, and South America, and around 38 million customers.[11] As of 2014, it was the world’s sixth-largest public company, according to a composite measure by Forbes magazine.[12]

HSBC is organised within four business groups: Commercial Banking, Global Banking and Markets (investment banking), Retail Banking and Wealth Management, and Global Private Banking.[13][14]

HSBC has a dual[15] primary listing on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange and London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the Hang Seng Index and the FTSE 100 Index. As of 6 July 2012, it had a market capitalisation of £102.7 billion, the second-largest company listed on the London Stock Exchange, after Royal Dutch Shell.[16] It has secondary listings on the New York Stock Exchange, Euronext Paris, and the Bermuda Stock Exchange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC

I had NO IDEA that this company that hired James Comey was CHINA-RELATED until I began writing this post. The reason is that I never see Hong Kong, Shanghai, or China ever mentioned when HSBC is being talked about. ENGLAND and EUROPE are usually hinted at. Thus, to me, HSBC was always just some “European” bank. But yet – well – Hong Kong and China – possibly being almost the same thing to the ChiComs per their propaganda – are IMPORTANT at the very least in HSBC.

My revelation about Comey and his relationship to HSBC being CRITICAL in understanding Spygate stems from my recent time in Paris, mentioned earlier in my post about the cab driver there.

When I was in Paris, I saw very EXPENSIVE signs and ads for HSBC almost EVERYWHERE – so much so, that I assumed it must have been some kind of FRENCH BANK. Well, not quite. But nevertheless, the main impact of all these signs was to IMPRESS ME with the POWER of HSBC.

How could Comey even THINK of resisting that stuff?



I mean, seriously – how do you TALK BACK to this shit when you’re just a guy like me on the internet who CAN – [ barring some minor attempted outsourced GUNPLAY, “vide infra” ] – much less somebody who actually WORKED FOR IT?

HSBC – whose fortunes are largely controlled by the CHICOMS – wants to take away your GUNS? Hey – it might actually HAPPEN. And if a few Americans are killed in the process…… Well….. Not thinking these people really CARE all that much.

Suddenly, the idea that Comey had WORKED for HSBC, began to make me think that maybe they were still INFLUENCING HIM – even if only in his LATENT WORLDVIEW.

And then something CLICKED. HSBC was even MORE connected to one of my weird little GUN SET-UPS – which I have assumed were FBI-related – than even “Epstein-related corporate entities”.

“Mmmmmmmm-hmmmmmmm.”

Suddenly, things began making sense. What if the FBI has been TAINTED by HSBC after Comey’s time there? What if it’s not “THING 1” but rather “THING 2” that has been mucking with the FBI from the inside?

CHYYYNNAA – and maybe LONDON, too.

Perhaps not right NOW, with Director Wray in charge, because Wray has been very aggressive in taking on the China threats which Mueller and Comey tended to ignore. But IF the HSBC taint in the FBI was deep and subtle, it would explain a lot.

And then there is this:

HSBC Money-Laundering Case Haunts Mueller’s Prosecution of Manafort

Why Mueller, Comey, Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder let HSBC walk on criminal money-laundering crimes in exchange for $1.9 billion fine

https://www.newswars.com/hsbc-money-laundering-case-haunts-muellers-prosecution-of-manafort/

LINK: https://www.newswars.com/hsbc-money-laundering-case-haunts-muellers-prosecution-of-manafort/

Now – before you think this is “all there is” (bad enough that it is), allow me to suggest that you simply so a web search on “Comey” and “HSBC”. You will be shocked at not only how much scandalous material arises – you will see that “Clinton Foundation” features in almost all of it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=comey+hsbc&ia=web

Just click that link and PICK OUT one or two articles.

There is NO WAY that either James Comey or Andrew McCabe should have been allowed to TOUCH the Clinton email case. “Recusal” is not strong enough. They should not have been allowed to even TALK about it.

Bill Priestap should have had the final say on it. MAYBE – and “maybe” is probably more honest – given that Priestap’s wife is some kind of connected financial and Israeli intelligence private investigation MEGA SECURITY RISK. (Sorry – I don’t want to sort through all her employers, REAL AND COVER, right now….)

You know who should have been put in charge of the FBI investigation? Who should have “negotiated” with Loretta Lynch?

A RANDOM “rank and file” FBI agent, whose name was drawn from a HAT on live TV.


Be that as it all may, I find it very odd that an “English” (COUGH, COUGH) global bank that is rooted in CHINA and which does mega business with the CLINTON FOUNDATION and the CLINTONS was the employer of JAMES COMEY for many years. A bank which is geographically and culturally connected to nearly EVERY player in SpyGate.

So – what do you all think?

Is #SpyGate really a “derivative” of #HSBCgate?

Maybe the “banksters” are FAR CLOSER than we have thought.

W