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Delta Wolf

After a lost week of human self-experimentation to survive multiply mutated Fauci-Baric China Virus, Wolf has obtained answers to a thousand questions. Here are just a few of those answers.

Over the last week, overcoming my SECOND case of the China virus, I have been able to learn quite a bit about the enemy’s weaponry – AND our own.

I was READY this time. PREPARATION paid off, and big-league.

I tried to help others prepare, and ended up helping myself, too.

Ivermectin – The Preparation

OK, people. It is time for THE WOLF to GET PATTON ON YOUR ASSES. As you may know, we now have many of our dear members actively fighting COVID-19, including one (gil00) in the hospital. Several have received Regeneron. Thus far, praise God, we have not lost anybody – and I intend to keep it …

I felt it was important to share what I have learned, and to answer people’s questions, but I wanted to have enough strength to actually do a post – not just a few quick answers lost in the middle of conversations.

I have answered a few questions already – I will try to link to some of those answers. Other answers I may copy here. But most of these questions are being answered here for the first time.

HERE WE GO!

1. Which version of COVID-19 did I have?

singingsoul1

singingsoul1(@singingsoul1) Online Wolverine  Reply to  Wolf Moon December 3, 2021 19:46

Wolf is that [omicron] the strain you and your wife caught? I am wondering since you did not respond as well to Ivermectin?

Where did you catch the first virus covid and where do you think you caught the second virus? You caught two different strains?

What I had this time was almost certainly Delta.

What I had the first time was almost certainly a minor variant of the original Wuhan strain (COVID-19).

Here is the current worldwide geographic distribution according to NextStrain.

Note that the colors are not fixed – the same data may be shown with different colors from one day to the next.

The turquoise color which covers 2/3 to 3/4 of almost every pie chart across the planet is the Delta variant. You can see that it has rapidly become the predominant version.

The various grayish versions (1/4 to 1/3 of each pie) are basically the original Wuhan strains PLUS the gazillion minor morphs of THAT which formed immediately. You remember the “European strain” and the “Washington strain”, and the “New York”, “Italian”, etc. – those were all still basically Wuhan, and those are the variants that are still effectively treated by all the original vaccines and antibodies.

If things had stayed there, the vaccinated would largely not be having breakthrough cases right now. Similarly, I would not have had a “breakthrough case” on my natural immunity.

The purplish and orange versions are other minor variants of concern, some of which were once much bigger concerns, until delta began to predominate. The vaccines still held up fairly well against those, as did, apparently, my natural immunity.

Omicron (red) is barely on the map right now.

It is EXTREMELY unlikely that I had omicron. It is VERY likely that I had standard issue delta variant.

2. How do I know that I had COVID-19?

Within a 24 hour period, I was positive to three tests – TWO antigen tests (BinaxNOW and QuickVue), plus a PCR test run by my primary care physician’s group.

The same tests showed my wife to be negative on Day Zero and Day One of my infection.

However, LATER, on Day 4 of my case, another run of QuickVue showed my wife to be weakly positive.

In my opinion, and with as much experience as I have now, running them, these antigen tests are highly reliable and trustworthy.

But that’s just the beginning.

My new case was, in so many ways, almost identical to the case that I had in January 2020. That case predated the availability of tests. Also, because it predated antibody test availability, I never got an antibody test until 6 months later – which by then was negative.

But now I’m CERTAIN. I had COVID the first time. Same damn disease. THE SAME.

And it all makes sense. DELTA BREAKTHROUGH IS possible for Wuhan natural immunity, IMO. Maybe not for everybody, but it was for me.

3. Did ivermectin work for me?

I strongly suspect that ivermectin helped me avoid serious problems and recover quickly.

I cannot be sure that ivermectin actually helped, but it certainly didn’t hurt. I would be very tempted to use ivermectin again, if I got COVID again.

My wife also used ivermectin, and it seemed to “flatten the curve” of viral load for her, too.

I would be bullshitting to say that I know ivermectin helped, or that my case “proves that it works.” But I can easily say that I strongly suspect that it helped.

4. Did I have any side effects from ivermectin?

Yes, but the side effects were extremely minor, for as massively high of a dose as I was taking.

I decided to roughly follow the FLCCC “triple-dose” (0.6 mg/kg) recommendation for an active infection, because I had two of the conditions that cause FLCCC to recommend the highest dose – (1) likelihood of delta strain, and (2) multiple comorbidities.

I decided that the same applied to my wife.

To mitigate side effects, I did NOT take the daily amount in a single dose, but rather spread it out in 12-mg pill-pops during the day. But even with the spreading of the doses, and taking them with meals, I felt the following symptoms.

  • desire to sleep after meals
  • “lazy eye focus” for a few hours
  • stomach “not quite right”

None of this was bad enough to quit the drug, or even to reduce the dose, but after 5 days of it, I was absolutely done. I had ZERO desire to take ivermectin any more. I wanted my stomach to return to normal, even if that entailed a greater risk. Given that most of my other symptoms were gone, I didn’t feel like it was much of a risk.

Also, ivermectin has a pretty long half-life, so after 5 days of super-high-dosing it, I’m probably STILL flushing it out of my system.

My wife experienced the same stomach issues. She was ready to give it up after 6 days.

5. What about the Zelenko / Raoult protocols?

Yes. I credit azithromycin every bit as much as ivermectin, and I have more direct evidence that it helped me.

This is where the reasoning gets very complicated.

In early 2020, I was immediately impressed by the work of Didier Raoult (hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin) and later by the clinical real-world proof of Zev Zelenko (added zinc and moved treatment to outpatient prophylaxis). I was absolutely convinced that early azithromycin was key to stopping the killer pulmonary symptoms of the disease, and basically turned it into “just another weak, influenza-like coronavirus”.

Although it turns out that azithromycin has its own powerful antiviral activities, the main thing it did, in my opinion then and now, was to prevent any type of pneumonia from setting in. This is critical if you want to stay out of the hospital.

Thus, as soon as I started detecting what I considered scary lung issues (burning lungs, basically), which was almost immediately (end of day zero, middle of day one), I decided to begin TWO ADDITIONAL PROTOCOLS.

The first was a modified Zelenko protocol. I increased my zinc to my maximum levels ever taken, plus quercetin as natural capers (clearly the bad influence of Aubergine). My wife and I also began using elderberry syrup as an additional zinc ionophore.

However, the real key was adding azithromycin – 2 days at 500 mg, and 2 days at 250 mg. The very first dose resulted in an immediate improvement in my lungs.

There is simply no arguing against the clinical record of success of the Zelenko protocol. I trusted it in my scientific reasoning in 2020, and I trusted it to treat myself.

I get far more mileage out of real-world clinical studies like Raoult’s and Zelenko’s, than out of Fauci’s little “double-blind” – whoops – I mean “double-chump” scam studies that can be manipulated against both doctor and patient by lying, phony, deceptive, agenda-filled, biased, compromised, fake-neutral parties.

The whole idea of double-blind studies falls apart when the researchers and patients are innocent DUPES and CHUMPS, and the people who are supposed to be honest referees in charge of neutrality are in fact dishonest manipulators like NIH, CDC, CEPI, Gates, WHO, and all the rest.

In contrast, studies like Zelenko’s and Raoult’s are pretty much open source. No Fauci-type con-man is in charge of fake neutrality. This being a neutrality I have little care for anyway, because I don’t care what exactly saved the people – simply that they were saved.

Yeah – I’m biased in favor of MEDICINE ITSELF.

The protocol works, end of story.

Fauci’s “studied ignorance” of clinical success is exactly why the man should have been fired DECADES AGO. He’s not a doctor – not a patient-treating one – and he should not be in charge of doctors.

HOWEVER – I do have to admit – azithromycin was even harder on my gut than ivermectin. Four days was all I could take. My stomach was always double-queasy if I took AZM with my IVM. There was NO WAY I was going to do a fifth day.

But YES – the stuff worked, and IMO kept my lungs “infection-free”, knock on wood.

Thank you, Doctors Raoult and Zelenko!!!

6. What about antihistamines?

Absolutely. The same well-proven clinical success that Zelenko had with azithromycin, was also evident in the results from the Spanish nursing homes. It would have been negligent not to take an antihistamine, in my opinion.

That, plus some additional reasoning I will explain below.

Based on the recommendations of people here, I chose Claritin (loratadine), and quickly found that I tolerated it easily at the recommended double doses.

I experienced a very, very slight dryness of the mouth, but that’s it. Just to be careful, I tended to keep the dosing closer to 1.5 instead of double, but in the absence of all the other drugs I was taking, I would have been more rigorous about the double dose, without consequence.

For those who need a refresher on the use of antihistamines against COVID…..

The Zyrtec Rebellion

Everybody underestimates Spain. The last letter in “PIGS” is far less of an insult than an error. Years ago, when I was at a conference, and Japanese industrial spies were getting me drunk (it was a great red wine), I decided that I had to give them SOMETHING for their time and effort, if only …

Now – here is some important new reasoning I had.

In the FLCCC protocols, and the Zelenko protocols, there is very little if any “over-the-counter” patient control in terms of things which could possibly pre-address and prevent the “cytokine storm” problem – particularly any drug that is available on an outpatient, OTC basis.

In the FLCCC protocols, aspirin is the main anti-clotting drug with something approaching that function. In the original Raoult and Zelenko protocols, HCQ’s antirheumatic functions combined with azithromycin’s actions seemed to suppress pulmonary capillary clotting, although neither did so as well as steroids.

The fact is, however, that the Spanish nursing home study had extremely good success preventing cytokine storms by simply using antihistamines on ALL patients, both as treatment and as prophylaxis. The entire emphasis of the approach was not so much to prevent disease, as to simply limit the disease.

To me it was a no-brainer to add an antihistamine to prevent inflammatory clotting – something that I knew already I was susceptible to, because of my first case of COVID, after which I lost lung function.

Loratadine turned out to be a VERY high-bang-for-buck fix for me, because it also dried nasal and sinus secretions, helped my breathing, reduced lung congestion, and generally decreased symptoms.

Thus, I found that adding an antihistamine had both clearly observable short-term benefits, and very likely long-term benefits.

I highly recommend adding this protocol during COVID treatment. It’s completely OTC as well – the Medical Mafia in Washington simply can’t stop it.

7. What about aspirin?

LINK: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127

Absolutely. Aspirin is a “must”, IMO.

Multiple studies have showed that aspirin, even at low doses, is both protective against getting COVID-19 and also protective against hospitalization and death. The numbers are substantial, too.

This is, again, part of the FLCCC protocol, and pretty much a no-brainer.

I started off using half a regular aspirin, but quickly found that it was just one more drug beating on my stomach.

Switching to low-dose aspirin worked nicely to make any stomach symptoms go away. I also found that I did not need more than 1 or 2 low-dose baby aspirins to control fever. I was able to routinely drop my fever back to near-normal with either 81 mg or 162 mg of aspirin.

Now, my doctor’s practice recommended acetominophen in case I had a high fever, but I never came close to needing it. As it was, I did not want to risk my liver in ANY WAY with all the other high drug doses, so there was NO WAY I was going to add dangerous acetominophen to the mix.

According to the literature studies, even a single baby aspirin per day was enough to show the protective effect. Thus, I made sure to always take 81-325 mg aspirin per day, and will continue with at least 81 mg/day for some time to be determined.

8. What about HCQ?

Not this time, but I would not rule it out in the future – particularly in the absence of ivermectin.

When I got my ivermectin, I had the opportunity to get hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as well. I chose the latter, but decided not to bother with HCQ I would likely not use.

I let ivermectin be my “drug of choice” for fighting COVID, for many reasons, including the greater safety profile and better understanding by doctors’ groups, including FLCCC. I am satisfied that I made the right choice in ivermectin, but quite frankly, it would have been a good thing to have some HCQ on hand as well.

Anything that kills viruses, is better than their “stupidity of spike identity” vaccine.

9. Did I gargle?

Yes. I used FLCCC-recommended and study-backed Listerine “with essential oils”, and the benefits were obvious.

Actually, ALL the Listerine variations use the same “essential oils” – pick any of them. Some of the time, I used one that also packs zinc chloride, to really screw with the virus.

At first, I went with warm saturated sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) gargle, which was the gargle used by the Spanish nursing homes.

Warm bicarb is actually a really good solution, in terms of soothing the throat and decreasing viral load (as experienced through reduction of key symptoms), but it doesn’t really do a lot in terms of opening up breathing passages.

In contrast, Listerine gargle was EXCELLENT for helping to clear breathing passages, AND to decrease viral load in the throat and mouth. The beneficial effects even extended to the lungs. I only needed to do it 2 or 3 times a day, and the effects lasted for hours afterwards.

The Listerine gargle was also excellent before sleeping, to have a peaceful night’s rest, with clear breathing.

In my opinion, the gargling protocol is really key to helping end things quickly.

NOW – there is some difference between what I experienced and what FLCCC recommends. FLCCC only recommends (at the moment) Listerine for prevention – they DROP IT for early treatment, and recommend ONLY the other types of antiseptics (cetylpyridinium, povidone-iodine, chlorhexidine) once you get the disease. Yet, honestly, I was totally satisfied with the performance of Listerine for TREATMENT, and would not hesitate to use it again.

This may be an individual thing. As they say, your mileage may vary.

10. What about povidone-iodine gargle?

I didn’t use it this time, but I may very well try it next time!

I was not aware that you can just buy this stuff OTC, but yeah – it’s a product. In the studies I read, povidone-iodine was THE BEST in lowering viral load in patients. It did better than Listerine – not by a whole lot, but enough that it might be worth it.

So if you can’t stand Listerine of any kind, or Scope, or whatever – consider trying this one.

11. Did I get the monoclonal antibodies?

Yes. In “better late than never” fashion, I got the mAb infusion after the treatment with ivermectin and azithromycin was already finished, and my fever was gone.

I was fever-free when I got the antibodies, and fever free when I left the infusion center. Shortly after that, I became exhausted and had a fever again. In another 24 hours, my strength was back and the fever was gone yet again.

Basically, I was treating Delta with more Wuhan antibodies like my own, which had already only provided some protection.

I cannot really be sure if the antibodies helped. I personally found that they knocked me out, increased my fever, and made me suffer a “day of exhaustion” that I had otherwise MISSED thanks to ivermectin.

Were they beneficial? Possibly, but I can’t be certain.

My wife got the antibodies somewhat earlier in the progress of the disease, because she got them at the same time I did, but her case was tracking mine LATE by roughly four days.

The antibodies didn’t completely finish her case, but she really only had one more day of disease after the “antibody down day”.

I would say that antibody infusion was far more likely to have helped HER than it was to have helped ME.

If I had to choose between antibodies, aspirin, loratadine, azithromycin, and ivermectin, I’m not actually sure which one I would toss. I consider EACH of them, just one more tool to make sure the disease stays contained. Use as many as you can get.

12. So what happened to my “natural immunity”?

Try some “AND” logic.

It’s still there – waiting patiently for a disease that no longer exists.

This blurry snapshot from NextStrain is from a “play mode” view of the data, where you can watch the genetic data being added in accelerated time. I have focused the active band on early 2020. The “19” and “20” strains are pre-delta – they were well within the window of my natural immunity, which was probably generated by a strain within what they are now calling 19A.

Follow the evolution forward in time, and you can see the massive shift to delta versions, shown in turquoise and indigo below.

SO – what I have now is DOUBLE natural immunity to TWO HUGE CHUNKS of older/existing COVID-19/20/21/22, the now-rare “gray” stuff and the very common “blue-green” stuff.

You can see, though, where OMICRON in RED is now forming. Whether I have any, some, or no immunity to omicron is an open question. HOWEVER, I would much rather have combined natural immunity to TWO groups of COVID variants, than three, four, or even five vaccines.

We have to start being very scientific about immunity, including in particular natural immunity, which is IMO the BEST response to highly mutating diseases, just as it has ALWAYS been.

Fauci is gaslighting us. Ignore him.

Until the poisonous dwarf is removed from power, do your own science.

https://youtu.be/p_yOSM7ujM0

Start HERE:

This link in particular, to keep checking up on SARS-CoV-2 – an EVOLVING GROUP OF VIRUSES.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global

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Ivermectin – The Preparation

OK, people. It is time for THE WOLF to GET PATTON ON YOUR ASSES.

As you may know, we now have many of our dear members actively fighting COVID-19, including one (gil00) in the hospital. Several have received Regeneron. Thus far, praise God, we have not lost anybody – and I intend to keep it that way.

For updates on the health of our members, we now have a dedicated thread, listed at the top of the sidebar. Feel free to record information there, including LINKS to comments from sick members in the daily threads.

QTreeper Health Updates

This is a new thread for QTreepers with health issues of ANY kind to keep us updated. I have absolutely no problem with people posting HERE, on the OPEN THREADS, or BOTH. You do what is right for you. We’re here for YOU. I want people to post wherever they feel most comfortable. I also …

We have also covered a specific case of ivermectin, used to treat COVID-19, with FANTASTIC RESULTS.

A Seven-Day Journey Through COVID-19 in Seven Minutes, Treated with Ivermectin

This is a great selfie video, done by a young lady with a glorious Southern accent, chronicling her week of COVID-19 and recovery, treated with ivermectin. It’s short – just under 7 minutes – but it captures a lot of information about symptoms and relief by the drug. I can’t embed the video here due …

We have had many, many, many discussions of how to obtain ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine – now for over a year.

MANY of our members have gotten a hold of one, two, or even THREE OR MORE forms or versions of drugs used to treat COVID-19. When I say that people have STASHES, I mean it. They have STASHES.

So the problem is not that people don’t have the means to treat or prevent the disease.

The problem is that people don’t ALWAYS have the WILL to begin treatment EARLY.

TREATING EARLY was GOD’S GIFT TO US through Doctor Zelenko. This MAN OF GOD realized that the most important way to fight COVID was to hit it EARLY and COMPREHENSIVELY.

At that time, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc was the best combination.

Now, we realize that ivermectin can augment or substitute for hydroxychloroquine. We also understand that VITAMIN D is critical.

We further understand that simple antihistamines such as zyrtec, loratadine, and others can almost completely eliminate the deadly late phase complications of COVID-19 infection.

The Zyrtec Rebellion

Everybody underestimates Spain. The last letter in “PIGS” is far less of an insult than an error. Years ago, when I was at a conference, and Japanese industrial spies were getting me drunk (it was a great red wine), I decided that I had to give them SOMETHING for their time and effort, if only …

SO – I am not going to recap any of that stuff. Likewise, I am not going to re-justify the use of ivermectin, and its GREAT results in India, Indonesia, Japan, Brazil, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and everywhere ELSE that is out of the reach of the Branch Covidian propaganda machine.

Instead, I want to do these things:

I want to make sure that everybody here:

  • HAS A PLAN
  • HAS ANTIGEN TEST KITS TO BEGIN THEIR PLAN
  • HAS A STASH THAT SUPPORTS THEIR PLAN
  • HAS ADVOCATES WHO WILL ASSIST THEIR PLAN
  • HAS HOSPITAL COMMS TO THIS SITE TO UPHOLD THEIR PLAN
  • HAS THE *WILL* TO WITHOUT HESITATION START THEIR PLAN
  • HAS THE *TRAINING* TO FEEL CONFIDENT IN THEIR PLAN

Are you all with me?

TRAINING is key. You are going to assemble a plan and then you are going to TRAIN FOR IT.

Some of this is going to involve helping you understand what COULD be in your stash, and what SHOULD be in your stash.

Now – this is a moving target, and I will be changing and updating the information that follows.

But right now, the MINIMUM that should be in your stash, should be vitamin D and zinc supplements, to prevent COVID-19. Next, you need OTC antihistamines – see the above post.

This is the BARE MINIMUM to save your life. If you have adequate Vitamin D and adequate zinc, and are deficient in neither, then you are VERY unlikely to die from COVID-19.

If you take antihistamines, and you take them IMMEDIATELY or even PREVENTATIVELY, you are even LESS LIKELY TO DIE.

If you have these things, and the WILL to take some of them as needed BEFORE you get COVID, and the WILL to take the others as needed IMMEDIATELY when you think or KNOW that you have COVID-19, you can almost guarantee that you will NOT DIE.

If you want to go further, you need to get ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

If you want to strike with maximum efficiency, so that you can take the drugs you need IMMEDIATELY, you also need antigen tests.

These are available from your local pharmacy now, or by mail order.

I will compile a list of URLs here, as an appendix, for you to get these things.

But right now, the main thing I want to do, is to DEBRIEF each of you on your stash and your level of preparation. Then, in the comments, we are going to TRAIN EACH OTHER on preparation and RAPID DEPLOYMENT at the first sign of COVID-19.

So JOIN ME in the comments, and TELL ME (as much as you feel comfortable doing) about your STASH, but FAR MORE IMPORTANTLY….

TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PLAN.

Those of you who have fought or ARE fighting COVID right now, are welcome to TELL or RE-TELL what you did, what you didn’t do, and what you wished you had done, or might have done better.

I want to get ALL OF THIS TREATMENT INFORMATION in one place. I will distill out the most important stuff, and put it in the post itself.

You could save a fellow member, and for each of them, you could save 10 lurkers.

DO IT! Who will be first?

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Appendix – Sources for Therapeutics

I will add entries from comments below. Please help add to this list.

1. Welcome Healthcare

https://www.indiamart.com/welcomehealthcare/search.html?ss=ivermectin

This is a great outfit. They are very professional. You need to be prepared with an email address, a PayPal account, and a phone number for them to discuss what they have and what you need. They are friendly, competent, speak good English, and have reasonable prices.

You need to know in advance exactly what you want and how much of it you want. They will ship immediately. You will have product delivered in as little as 2 weeks, or as many as 6 weeks, thanks to supply chain issues, but you will be able to track your shipment.

They also have azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, doxycycline, steroids, and others. I do NOT recommend buying anything you are not VERY comfortable using, and which you don’t already know proper dosage and contraindications. Likewise, if you are not comfortable purchasing “global OTC medicines” from suppliers like this, and wish to only obtain medicines with a doctor’s prescription, then please seek those drugs through doctors listed below.

This method is not for sissies. I don’t want to talk you out of it, but you are buying real medicine and treating YOURSELF by general published medical recommendations. If that makes you nervous, then go the doctor route. But remember this.

Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin can SAVE YOUR LIFE.

2. Veterinary Supply Companies

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/agrilabs-agri-mectin-1-injection-50-ml

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/agrilabs-agri-mectin-1-injection-200-ml

https://www.calvetsupply.com/ivermectin-injection-1-50ml.html

https://upco.com/?s=ivermectin

Some people feel more comfortable this way. Not a problem if you do. These are quality drugs, suitable for human use.

Veterinary supply companies provide ivermectin as both the injectable form (1%) and the horse paste.

In BOTH cases, you want to take it ORALLY. You do not want to inject it. You just have to use the right amount, because you are not a horse, so you don’t need as much.

The horse paste is probably easier if you are more of a COOK, and the injectable is probably easier if you are more of a LAB RAT. We can work with you either way, to get what you need and to help you understand dosages.

3. FLCCC Alliance & Other Doctors’ Organizations

FLCCC Alliance

https://covid19criticalcare.com/guide-for-this-website/

Remote Health Solutions

Home

If you want to go through a doctor, these groups are how to do it.

4. Antigen Tests

https://www.cvs.com/shop/abbott-binaxnow-covid-19-antigen-self-test-2-tests-for-serial-testing-prodid-550147

The advantage of using antigen tests, is that you won’t waste your ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine on some cold or weak flu. You will KNOW that you have COVID, and you will be able to take your therapeutic in CONFIDENCE. Thus, if you are AMBIVALENT about taking ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine preventatively, then just wait until you have a positive antigen test, and THEN take the drugs, when you KNOW they will work.

With an antigen test, you can hit COVID on DAY ONE of the clinical infection.

5. Antibody / Regeneron / Lilly / MAb

Use these links to find infusion centers and information on availability.

https://covid.infusioncenter.org/

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/therapeutics-distribution

In my opinion, you can HOPE for these treatments, but (1) there are no guarantees, and (2) you may prove not to be eligible for many reasons, EVEN if you try to get treatment within the first 10 days.

Don’t count on this method, is my advice. But DO make it part of your PLAN!

6. Moxidectin

This is an alternative to ivermectin, which are longer-lasting with completely different dosages. Be VERY careful if you investigate this therapeutic. IMO it is not nearly as well-understood as ivermectin as an antiviral or treatment for long-haul, but it has been clearly demonstrated as effective, IMO. If anybody has information from doctors about safe dosages of moxidectin in humans, please post it!

Moxidectin:

http://www.medchemexpress.com/moxidectin.html

Moxidectin cautions:

http://www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/moxidectin_01.html

7. Other Online Pharmacies (not verified)

https://pharma-doctor.com/ivermectin.html

https://drugsforhealth.org/product/Stromectol.html

8. Please Suggest MORE LINKS!

PS – Ivermectin vs. Pfizer’s New Drug Paxlovid

https://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/11/16/why-ivermectin-is-superior-to-pfizers-antiviral-pill/

Pfizer’s Drug: https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/pfizer-will-seek-emergency-use-authorization-its-covid-19-antiviral

LancetGate Effect 2.0 – Indonesia

The murderous LancetGate Effect is back, and this time it killed thousands before bureaucrats relented and allowed doctors to save patients.

[ Hat Tip to barkerjim for alerting me to this Indonesian case. ]

Part 1 – LancetGate Effect 1.0 and 1.1

Ah, the memories of LancetGate! That moment when “they” “finally” “proved” that hydroxychloroquine didn’t work.

Until – it turned out – they had proved nothing. For when honest people looked at the bogus Surgisphere study, embarrassingly published in The Lancet, they realized that it was absolute horseshit, built on bad data, by people who had no idea what they were doing, other than trying to KILL hydroxychloroquine. Presumably on behalf of Mysterious Unknown Bill Gateses and Nations That Might Be China.

The trouble is, by the time the study was proven to be a bunch of happy horseshit, bureaucrats had eagerly and enthusiastically banned hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19 in several countries, and tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people worldwide were denied hydroxychloroquine, many of them dying within that typical 14-day window in which COVID-19 kills people.

However, something interesting happened when hydroxychloroquine was banned in Switzerland.

Because the bans of HCQ were all planned and coordinated around the release of the false study, they went into effect almost immediately, with relentless efficiency. It was in some cases immediately impossible for doctors to get hydroxychloroquine.

THAT created a sharpness in the curves.

Fourteen days later, the deaths from COVID-19 began spiking – HARD. Now, people were criticizing the study almost immediately, and within a few weeks, the study was already looking very shaky, as The Lancet started backing down, ultimately leading to retraction.

The Swiss didn’t wait that long to correct their error. They saw the deaths, allowed HCQ back into the hands of doctors, saving the lives of patients, again with GREAT SUDDENNESS, despite the “best wishes” of neo-Nazi KlauSS Schwab and the WEFFEN SS Great Resetters, who needed more dead people – even their own pitiful Davos plebes.

And THIS was the result.

It was a STUNNING little blip in the data.

The result was even more interesting when compared to France, where HCQ was immediately suppressed, thanks to communist bureaucrat Agnes Buzyn, who swiftly made the OTC drug almost unobtainable.

Allow me to explain these graphs.

France starts off worse than Switzerland due to suppression of hydroxychloroquine, and gets even worse as supplies dry up, while Switzerland gets better immediately, with doctors experimenting with treatments based on the earlier research and cutting-edge studies, including both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. A stunning indictment of post-Soviet bureaucracy.

So why does France start getting better (going down)? That is the result of research by Prof. Didier Raoult in Marseilles, in the South of France, who quickly got extremely positive results by semi-prophylactic “early treatment” of both the virus and subsequent pneumonia, using a combination of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and azithromycin (AZM), without waiting for positive test results for bacterial infection. This idea of prophylactic antibiotics is KEY to saving lives, and later influenced Dr. Zelenko in America to try a combination of HCQ, AZM, and zinc, given at the first sign of the disease, as an outpatient treatment. Zelenko gets wildly good results, preventing hospitalizations and deaths at nearly 100% level, yet is unable to get organizations like the AMA to acknowledge the treatment.

The problem for Prof. Raoult was that he was immediately vilified by the forces of Big Pharma. Some of it was absolutely stunning. Nevertheless, there was a strong group of “populist” doctors and scientists in France, and also internationally, who supported Raoult, even though the MONEY was clearly against him.

Nonetheless, Raoult was winning the hearts and minds of practitioners in France – particularly in the South of the country, and admirers around the world. And THAT is why the numbers kept getting better.

One of my favorite French memes…..

And then LANCETGATE happened, as you can see in the graph.

And then the LancetGate Effect, fully visible when LancetGate was exposed, and HCQ was allowed back into the physician’s arsenal of salvation.

France was already operating under a “ban” on hydroxychloroquine, and there was considerable pressure on Prof. Raoult, but it did not really get worse for him, or for other doctors using HCQ in spite of the ban, until a few weeks into the LancetGate Effect, where you can see a lesser effect than in Switzerland starting to happen in France, but an upward trend in deaths just the same. But the main point THERE is that the Swiss results ALMOST joined the French results.

Now, one of the confirmations of this was a SIMILAR effect in America.

The scale below is upside-down from above. In this case, UP is GOOD, DOWN is BAD.

Thanks to the WUWT weather and climate guys for finding this little nugget.

If you want to read more about these cases, please click on two old blog posts here which talk about the LancetGate Effect.

The first one talks about the effect itself.

The second involves a huge counteroffensive against all the people who had maligned hydroxychloroquine, in which Dr. Zelenko began collecting all the evidence, before it could be deleted.

Dear KMAG: 20200814 Open Topic / Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid / The LancetGateEffect / Ivermectin & COVID-19 / On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic / Masks OFF

This [Q-3]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!). You can say what you want, comment on what …

The #LancetGateEffect Is Taking Names Before Kicking Ass – Please Contribute To The List

Things are happening faster than I expected. Check this out. We need to contribute to this effort. Please dig up EVERY LINK that you can find of anti-HCQ and post it here. Be sure to include a description, including WHO exactly is referenced, to save people time when they go through comments. Also, I highly …

You will notice in these old articles that Twitter has now BLOCKED all my tweet threads on the LancetGate Effect, by “suspending” my account. Someday Jack Dorsey will answer for this!

Part 2 – LancetGate Effect 2.0

The following information was nicely captured in TWO articles in The Gateway Pundit.

Note that time has passed between LancetGate Effects 1.0 and 2.0 – the drug of choice for treating COVID-19 is now IVERMECTIN – at high enough doses that it shows a pronounced ANTIVIRAL effect. Fortunately, the antiparasitic drug has such an incredibly high therapeutic margin, it actually has a usable secondary antiviral activity.

Who would have known? THAT is science – and science in service of humanity.

AMAZING: COVID-19 Cases in Indonesia Plummet After Government Authorizes IVERMECTIN For Treatment

By Jim Hoft

Published October 9, 2021 at 10:50am

UPDATE: COVID-19 Cases Plummeted in Indonesia After Government Authorized IVERMECTIN For Treatment – Big Pharma Vaccines Made Little Difference

By Jim Hoft

Published October 29, 2021 at 7:40am

The graph that really explains things is this one.

Now I will immediately tell you that the labeling of the graph is “true but misleading”. It LOOKS like the graph is saying:

“They banned ivermectin on 06/12/21 and the number of cases took off. Then it was approved on 07/15/21 and it dropped again.”

That is NOT the case. That “Ivermectin banned” arrow could just as easily point at the whole line to the left of the July 15th arrow.

The REAL reason for the huge spike is the arrival of the DELTA VARIANT in Indonesia. That hit the previously isolated island country, and the cases took off. AT THAT TIME, ivermectin was still banned, because the Indonesian health ministry was following the advice of WHO, CDC, FDA, and the EU.

BIG MISTAKE.

Here is another look at the data.

You can see how deaths track cases in time. After ivermectin was approved and made widely available, due to the desperation of the authorities, no longer willing to listen to Western Bolshevik and Globalist media propaganda, both reported cases and deaths dropped like a rock.

This is not hard.

Namibia did the same thing, and got great results.

People in America were simply not prepared to see just how mercenary Big Pharma really is, particularly now that it operates hand-in-glove with the Wokester Bolshevik and Globalist Scum. People in the “third world” are quite familiar with the concept, however. They know that they are barely even numbers to the elite globalists who run the planet – who operate with far more concern for imperial politics than for the people themselves.

Part 3 – Accountability

India has had its own experiences with ivermectin, and as far as India is concerned, ivermectin saved the day there, too.

HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN

A different state was not so lucky. They listened to the wrong woman, thereby dropping ivermectin for a while, and many people died.

The problem is, India has its own problem with UN-loving idiot wokesters who value globalist conformity over truth, and it resulted in THOUSANDS OF DEAD.

However, there is also accountability.

Although this has largely been covered up by the globalist media, Indian authorities have decided to prosecute their own “Fauci” for misleading the public on ivermectin, which led to thousands of people dying.

India Could Sentence WHO Chief Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians

India charges WHO Scientist Soumya Swaminathan for Mass Murder: The beginning of Accountability

India charges WHO Scientist Soumya Swaminathan: India is a forefront nation in demanding accountability from the WHO, the Indian Bar Association (IBA) now suing WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan.

They are accusing her of causing the deaths of many Indian citizens by misleading them about the effect of Ivermectin, which she stated did not work against Covid-19.

As a result, the use of Ivermectin to cure Covid-19 was stopped and Covid cases exploded with deaths increasing ten-fold.

Point 56 states: “That your misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of Ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing Ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients. (Feature photo: WHO Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan)

Specific charges included the running of a disinformation campaign against Ivermectin and issuing statements in social and mainstream media to wrongfully influence the public against the use of Ivermectin despite the existence of large amounts of clinical data showing its profound effectiveness in both prevention and treatment of COVID-19.

In particular, the Indian Bar brief referenced the peer-reviewed publications and evidence compiled by the ten-member Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) group and the 65-member British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) panel headed by WHO consultant and meta-analysis expert Dr. Tess Lawrie.”

Will Fauci, Walensky, and “Thalidomide Janet” Woodcock see justice?

We’ll see.

W

NIH Deploys Countermeasure Study on Ivermectin to Retain Credibility – and How the Study Can be Forced by Deplorables to Reveal the Truth

This is interesting.

NIH is sponsoring a new TRIAL of ivermectin to treat COVID-19.

The latest chess move by NIH may be a move toward truth, or it could be more smoke and mirrors. However, I am telling you now – WE THE PEOPLE can force the play to yield TRUTH, if we keep our eyes on the ball.

In my opinion, we are FORCING – by the threat of NUREMBERG 2 – various government agencies to turn away from the Faucist false narratives they KNOW will do them as much good as “We were only following orders” helped the lower-level Nazis.

For example, the recent FDA 16-3 vote AGAINST sketchy, unproven, and very likely USELESS or actually counterproductive boosters – which the Faucists had to REVERSE by diktat of CDC’s Rochelle Alinsky – tells me that people in government who KNOW THE SCORE are starting to REBEL against “top-down” medicine, if only to save their own skins.

Yes, YouTube is holding the line for Comrade Alinsky, but others are starting to move away from the pounding gavels of NUREMBERG 2, sounding from just over the horizon of time.

So with that in mind, take a look at THIS:

LINK: https://www.al.com/news/2021/09/15000-people-sought-for-study-on-effectiveness-of-ivermectin-flonase-and-more-to-treat-covid.html

Notice how FAKE NEWS can’t help but go after ivermectin, even reporting that NIH is giving it a trial.

YOU’RE A JOKE, FAKE NEWS!

Now – trust me – there are a thousand ways that people inside NIH, CDC, NIAID, or FDA could game the results of this study. I may talk about some of the other methods, but there is ONE in particular that was already used against hydroxychloroquine.

Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on US.

The way to insure a FAIL of any trial of an antiviral against COVID-19 is to give it too late. That includes “standard” antivirals like acyclovir, remdesivir, etc., AND it includes non-standard antivirals like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin.

To validly test an antiviral, you have to give it early enough that it makes a difference. For a safe but highly nonstandard (and likely WEAKER) antiviral, “early enough” means VERY EARLY.

Dr. Zelenko recognized this IMMEDIATELY. That is why he jumped on very early outpatient hydroxychloroquine PLUS azithromycin (Raoult’s therapy, moved up in time) PLUS zinc, knowing that all three have a very HIGH margin of safety, so there is no need to wait – thus better to GET THE JUMP on both SARS-CoV-2 AND bacterial pneumonia, as well as any possible zinc deficiency.

Zelenko moved Raoult’s therapy to ALMOST prophylaxis, and removed the concern of zinc deficiency, common in the elderly.

It was SIMPLE, but it was BRAVE and GENIUS.

Now – LATER – there were COWARDLY attack studies, where hydroxychloroquine was administered too late, too much, and to dying patients, long after both antiviral and antirheumatic activities would do absolutely no good.

The scientific community called these studies out, but still – SHAME.

Will it happen again here?

Not if we can help it.

WHAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO HERE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STUDY OF IVERMECTIN CAN’T BE PURPOSELY FAILED BY LATE ADMINISTRATION.

The beauty of this study is that WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who “call in” when we get COVID. The earlier that is done, the more likely that ivermectin will PROVE its awesome ability to stop COVID in its tracks.

Thus, it is imperative that truth-seeking Deplorables (or libtards who are red-pilled enough to believe me) who are at risk for COVID-19, be READY to get into this study the MOMENT they are diagnosed.

And the easiest way to do THAT is to simply do the following:

  • Be familiar with the study
    • have the site bookmarked
    • have its phone number saved to your contacts
  • Have a COVID test on hand at home
    • Abbott BinaxNOW test is $25 for two (2) tests
    • antigen test is highly accurate, is NOT a PCR test
    • test takes 15 minutes and is very simple to perform
  • Use ALL OPTIONS to accelerate delivery of the treatments

Here is information about the study:

LINK: https://activ6study.org/

Let me repeat that in TEXT:

Welcome to the ACTIV-6 study

Working together to help people with COVID-19 feel better faster. Call 833-385-1880 today!

The ACTIV-6 Study

The ACTIV-6 research study is testing several medications that are already approved for other diseases to see if they can help people with mild to moderate COVID-19 feel better faster and stay out of the hospital.

If you are 30 years old or older, have tested positive for COVID-19 within the past 10 days and have at least 2 COVID-19 symptoms for 7 days or less, you can help make a difference by participating in ACTIV-6.

You can participate from anywhere in the U.S. Medications are shipped to you at no cost. You will keep track of your symptoms and how you feel over 90 days.

Medications in the ACTIV-6 Study

ACTIV-6 is evaluating repurposed medications for effective, safe treatments for mild-to-moderate COVID-19. Repurposed medications are already approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for other indications. The study is now testing these medications:

Fluticasone

an inhaled steroid commonly prescribed for asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease

Fluvoxamine

a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), often prescribed for depression

Ivermectin

used to treat parasitic infections

These medications can be shipped anywhere in the United States at no cost to participants.

Why This Study Is Important

Vaccines are available, but access is limited in some areas and new, more transmissible variants of the virus are emerging in the U.S. People are still getting sick, and many remain at risk for the disease.

Results from ACTIV-6 will help researchers understand how existing medications can improve symptoms and limit hospitalizations for people with mild to moderate COVID-19.

Study Eligibility

ACTIV-6 is for you if:

You are 30 years old or older

Tested positive for COVID-19 within the past 10 days

Have at least 2 COVID-19 symptoms for 7 days or less

Frequently Asked Questions

I am enrolled in ACTIV-6. How do I report a new health concern?

Click here to report a concern or medical event to our Call Center.

Does participation cost anything?

No, there is no cost to you to participate. All activities can be conducted on a private and secure website or over the phone.

Am I compensated for participating?

You may receive a gift card of up to $100 upon completion of the study.

News & Information

  • Nationwide Clinical Study Expands Platform to Test Medications to Treat Mild-to-Moderate COVID-19
  • Better treatments for COVID-19 are still needed, especially for patients with mild to moderate illness who are not hospitalized.
  • ACTIV-6 is part of a larger public-private partnership, Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV), announced in 2020 by the National Institutes of Health.

Enroll Today!

Fill out the screening form to have a study team member contact you, or call 833-385-1880 to speak with a study team member.

Screening Form

Call Us

Together, we can change the future of COVID-19 treatment.

This site is intended for United States residents only.

Copyright © 2021 Jumo Health, Inc. All Rights Reserved

ACTIV-6 Study – Study Website – 29 – June – 2021 – English (Master) – V2.0

Now – I want to be absolutely clear about something – which is another way of saying that I want to rub FAKE SCIENCE’S NOSE in it’s own POOP.

We are not “gaming” this study by FORCING better science on establishment science. We are making sure that this is not a “gamed” study, by REMOVING the most likely (and proven) source of gaming the study to NOT SHOW A RESULT.

If the average starting time of therapy goes DOWN to where conclusive results are shown, that is GOOD DESIGN. That’s what we’re banking on here.

So – be sure to bookmark this sucker. If you get COVID, and this study (or a successor study) is running, you want to get into it.

And you want to get into it FAST.

IVERMECTIN.

Allegedly being taken seriously by NIH.

Whoda thunk?

W

Dear KMAG: 20200814 Open Topic / Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid / The LancetGateEffect / Ivermectin & COVID-19 / On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic / Masks OFF

This [Q-3]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.

SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid

OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.

Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.

Example:

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/dear-kmag-20200810-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-569473

wolfmoon1776

I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!! 

I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.

Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.

TheseTruths

I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!

wolfmoon1776

Just saw this – let me get out of notification view and see what I said!

But now, take a look at these tweets, to see where SD is going…..

Sundance responds to a bunch of trolls and splodeyheads, but this one has some meat:

SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.

NOW – here is my problem.

Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.

So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.

  • keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
  • separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
  • on The U Tree

I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.

Thanks!

The LancetGateEffect

Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.

This is the article that brought it to my attention:

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away. I get more “old” likes and retweets on this one, than almost anything.

But here is the biggie:

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

This graph is a real convincer.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/05/hypothesis-restrictions-on-hydroxychloroquine-contribute-to-the-covid-19-cases-surge/

I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.

We really should have seen this coming – that there would be KARMA and CONSEQUENCES for banning HCQ on less than pure motives.

However, once you start digging into the FDA drama, it gets complicated – particularly with saboteurs like Rick Bright entering the mix.

But let’s ask a question posed by Gail Combs – is this whole HCQ thing a TRAP?

You know – THAT is a damn good question.

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/8-10-20-news-roundup-notice-the-democrat-and-msm-talking-point-has-disappeared-the-assassin-believes-that-pdjts-4-eos-would-stand-up-in-court-put-the-state-of-north-carolina-in-the-good-gu/comment-page-1/#comment-569018

Wolfie what is your take on this subject?

I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.

Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….

… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….

That was me.

DP, Ginger, and others.

Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go

AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL…..
[start of a long comment]

[MUCH REMOVED]

I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…

HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.

So what say you?

Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?

THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.

We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.

For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.

I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.

In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.

If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.

There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.

Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.

Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.

If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.

So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.

Ivermectin & COVID-19

Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.

LINK: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1

I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.

This article has a freely downloadable PDF version HERE: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1.full.pdf

If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.

This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.

The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!

Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.

What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?

“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.

Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:

  • less vents
  • more steroids
  • better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
  • more oxygen earlier
  • better testing, all kinds

As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.

Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.

It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.

It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.

The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.

If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.

Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.

On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic

Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:

If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.

SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.

Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.

A match made in HELL.

Anyway – here is the deal.

We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.

  • don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
  • every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
  • never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
  • don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
  • call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
  • pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation

In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.

By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.

Masks OFF

The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.

https://twitter.com/mhtx76/status/1293394550992580608

To which I responded…..

This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:

We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.

I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.

Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.

Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.

I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.

Carry on, Digital Soldiers!

W

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ObamaGate News

Let’s start here. A tough one to swallow.

SHARYL ATTKISSON

UNTOUCHABLE SUBJECTS. FEARLESS, NONPARTISAN REPORTING.

READ (NEW): Attkisson v. Rosenstein for government computer intrusions

DATED: AUGUST 3, 2020 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON


The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.

Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:

  • Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government. 
  • Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers. 
  • The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
  • Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.

But then it gets interesting…..

Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:

  • White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data. 
  • The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein. 
  • Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent. 

READ MORE AT THE LINK: https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/08/read-new-attkisson-v-rosenstein-for-government-computer-intrusions/

As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.

Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?

But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..

Sally Yates, covered HERE:

LIVE THREAD: Sally Q. Yates Gets Grilled

……was a big deal. It seemed like she almost got away clean. BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR….. courtesy of Sundance…..

Richard Grenell Discusses Yates Testimony: “She got away with questioning yesterday”…

https://youtu.be/l2wUUcR1yTo

Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.

ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.

“Be prepared.”

HCQ News

Let’s start here:

https://twitter.com/alfa673/status/1290876639040147456

This is the “Henry Ford study”. It basically shows HCQ cutting the death rate in half.

But those numbers get BIGGER.

Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.

Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.

Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.

https://twitter.com/niro60487270/status/1290883705586593793

I had to comment and retweet!

The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.

LINK: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/update-1-turkey-s-covid-19-cases-up-over-1-000-in-severe-rebound/ar-BB17z1u0

Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.

NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.

Not exactly easy in New York.

Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away.

This data EVEN got the attention of microbiologist Steven Hatfill, who wrote a GREAT piece defending HCQ.

An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch

LINK: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.

And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.

NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.

I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.

NONSENSE!

Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.

BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.

One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.

https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1291387353085480965

YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

HCQ Insights

One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.

I call this the “EUA EUA“.

“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”

The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.

One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.

The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.

The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.

WIN, WIN, WIN.

NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.

It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.

This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.

Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.

Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.

One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.

This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.

March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT

By Mike Hixenbaugh

LINK: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/scientists-were-close-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago-then-money-dried-n1150091

There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.

And now THIS.

Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine

What are we up against?

Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.

https://twitter.com/InAMadWorld111/status/1291072513703849986

Let’s look more closely.

We are not “starting a war”. We’re FIGHTING BACK.

Masks are a huge battle from the socialists who want ANY kind of permanent change, even really stupid ones.

Fighting back will be on all fronts. Some of it will be masks themselves, but others will be technical – TESTING and HCQ are going to be big.

Do not be afraid to put DATA like this in people’s faces.

https://twitter.com/carmindabrendel/status/1291459727143165953
https://twitter.com/GiantSlyers/status/1288563741206949889

Do not be afraid to ADMIT TRUTHS, because you can TRUST that more truth will come to your rescue.

We are going to WIN, and we are going to win BIGLY.

Take THAT to the Bank, Nancy Pelosi.

W