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And what good is MAGA if we don’t deploy MAGATONS of it?
Wonder if they pronounce it “nucular” in Arkansas? Maybe on Wall Street?
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People – it is OUR JOB to make sure that the HOUSE OF COMMIES achieves DETONATION.
It is OUR JOB to make sure that there are NUCLEAR YIELDS for what they did to try to stop this movement.
If there is no CLINTONIUM or BARIUM in the FALLOUT of tomorrow’s Mueller hearing, then we simply have not achieved the desired condition of….
You see, they have DISTRACTED US. And it is OUR JOB to bring it back. To make the EXPLOSION of the MUELLER IMPEACHMENT CONSPIRACY achieve a nuclear reactive state of FUSION GPS.
The name Mary B. Jacoby – wife of Glenn Simpson of the Fusion GPS Steele "Russia" Dossier – is on the White House visitor logs excel sheet for April 19, 2016. The same month the DNC and Clinton hired Fusion. What an ODD time for a White House "tour." 🤨 https://t.co/wGW1flLJm2pic.twitter.com/PQcepSabja
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Yes, it’s Monday…again.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Harry Lightfoot with Audiomachine, titled ‘The Light Between Us’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump standing next to Chairman Xi at the G20 Summit. Our President is smiling at Xi…but Xi is not smiling back. Instead, Xi has the look on his face of someone who is not happy at all with what our President is smiling about. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is a graphic of President Trump, giving a thumbs up with his right hand. The words, “Where We Go One”, are above his head…and the words, “We Go All”, are below his image. Fourth Image: President Trump is giving a salute to the Marine on duty at the entrance of Marine One, just as he is about to enter the chopper.
It was the MOMENT that I realized that we are dealing with DEGRADATION of Western symbols….
That we are being forced to DEGRADE THEM OURSELVES….
That it is being done using RACIAL REVENGE as a psychological subtext….
And it was ALSO being done using SEXUAL REVENGE as a psychological subtext….
That REVENGE is a form of degradation on both PERPETRATOR and VICTIM….
Exactly like SLAVERY degrades both the PERPETRATOR and the VICTIM….
A BRILLIANT IDEA that I learned from Frederick Douglass…..
And THAT is the moment when I realized who was behind it….
The nation that SNEAKS IN TO CHEAT TO WIN….
The nation that BINDS ITS VICTIMS IN THEIR SLEEP….
The nation that CROWS OVER ITS BOUND VICTIMS….
The nation that DEGRADES and HUMILIATES its bound victims….
The nation that UNBINDS its victims only to MAKE THEM CRAWL….
The nation that now FORCES THEM TO RAPE EACH OTHER AT GUNPOINT….
CHINA.
Yes – just like the way that CHINA is behind the self-destructive genocide of the ANC against white farmers in South Africa – which DEGRADES both the whites and the blacks…..
And just like the way the ChiComs BOMBED OUR FACTORIES by taking the jobs right out from under our workers – making AMERICAN MANAGEMENT rape AMERICAN WORKERS – and then carried out CHEMICAL WARFARE on the survivors using FENTANYL…..
(A cunning yet weirdly misplaced REVENGE for their “opium issues” with Britain….)
And just like a CHINESE MILITARY AGENT – standing on American soil in an American university, lectured the very TECH WORKERS that his operation was about to replace, humiliating the blackmailed management and the soon-to-be SCREWED workers at the same time….
NOPE….
Once I realized that the “symbol-rape” being done by Hollywood against itself is a BRILLIANT and WICKED form of DEGRADING THE VICTIM….
Even worse – making the victims degrade themselves….
THAT is exactly when I knew it was CHINA doing it.
Trust me. You dig underneath ALL of this stuff, and you will find the stealthy influence of CHINESE MONEY, followed by CHINESE DISINFORMATION, and finally CHINESE SUBVERSION, with the coup de grace being to BLAME AMERICANS in general, and “you know who” in particular.
OH, it was so cunning. WAR during “peace”.
Now – first of all, I want to thank fellow QTreeper andyocoregon for his post that made the lightbulb turn on.
Well, I went to the article, and BOOM – that is when it hit me like a ton of bricks.
ALL that ChiCom money in Hollywood. Funding EXACTLY what they needed.
But THEN I thought of the real kicker. The thing that proves what this is.
Why isn’t Hollywood writing GREAT NEW CHARACTERS for women and minorities?
Not BULLSHIT political action characters like “Machete” or whatever his name is. I mean BATMAN-level, or JAMES BOND LEVEL.
Why isn’t Hollywood creating WOMEN characters and BLACK characters and ASIAN characters who are ICONIC and someday people will go “Fucking shit! They want some WHITE GUY to play Fanny Wu? That’s NUTS!”
That is when I realized that BLACKS and WOMEN and ALL MINORITIES are not only being CHEATED out of their rightful future – a future that CHINA wants for themselves….
They are being DEGRADED by the “character cannibalization” that Hollywood is being FORCED TO ENGAGE IN by their NEW MASTERS.
They are being DEGRADED by being made into political propaganda PAWNS.
It is JUST LIKE what Frederick Douglass tried to teach us – that those who CARRY OUT OPPRESSION ON BEHALF OF A SYSTEM ARE THEMSELVES DEGRADED – AND MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THEIR VICTIMS.
It’s not about “raising up” women and “minorities” in the West. It’s about USING THEM to punish, humiliate, and degrade the West AS A WHOLE.
It’s about making the WEST self-destruct.
And then I knew it. I knew who was behind it.
“Holy CRAP – it’s a form of CHICOM VICTIM DEGRADATION.”
I know a lot about this. I watched it for a LOOOONG time. Very close-up. Everybody who was in tech and watched the ChiComs STRIKE in the dark and PARALYZE management to make them ATTACK WORKERS saw how it all worked.
I was about to post a long diatribe, but then I got the idea for this post, and what you are about to read. So instead, I wrote this:
Chinese investment in “what Americans think about themselves” (otherwise known as Hollywood and the media) is an extremely dangerous thing. Personally, I would just BAN THIS SHIT at 100% levels. Letting CHINA invest in America’s self-image is probably the STUPIDEST thing we ever did.
Sadly, Hollywood is so addicted to ChiCom bucks right now, it would likely DIE ON THE SPOT is ChiCom cash infusions were withdrawn.
That’s where nice, simple, quickly adjustable TARIFFS come in.
You want to put a dollar into Hollywood? Pay TWO DOLLARS.
You want to take a dollar OUT OF Hollywood? PAY HALF.
And then add a “degradation tax” for obvious cultural Marxism.
And then add an “interference tax” for interfering in the plots of movies and shows.
And then add a “censorship tax” for any interference in FREE SPEECH in Hollywood.
See where I’m going? We DO NOT have to put up with this garbage.
And we can even set the tariffs SO HIGH that the ChiComs just LEAVE.
So here is my message to the INHUMAN SKELETON-FACED CHINESE COMMUNISTS.
Lady Liberty, who YOU were making Uncle Sam rape, has just GRABBED A GUN.
KNEEL YOU FUCKERS. Just like your little Kaepernick BITCH.
NOW CRAWL OUT THE DOOR OVER THE GLASS YOU BROKE.
We’ll talk about “reparations” later.
W
Reference:
There’s a new Top Gun movie coming out. And Maverick is wearing the same leather jacket – only this time it’s Communist Party of China-approved, so the Japanese and Taiwanese flag patches are gone (screenshot on right is from the new trailer)… pic.twitter.com/gUxFNFNUKX
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(We’re celebrating KAG! tonight with our VSG!)
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Our movement
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Q posted AGAIN today – on the Qth of July – and you just have to see it to believe it. WHOA.
How many coincidences before mathematically impossible?
For Anons/Patriots.
Q
Q Post 3440
Do the math. This means something. What does it mean? I think I know. Lots of implications. I want YOU ALL to discuss it, to FORCE THE QUESTION.
But not content to merely celebrate one of the best Trump speeches ever, ending with a MASSIVE Q validation, Q invalidates Hillary’s alleged winning of the popular vote in the 2016 election in one post.
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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Q posted today – in preparation for the Qth of July – and I thought it was worth covering, because a great thought really struck me from these posts.
This president would love nothing more than to divide our country based on race, religion, gender, orientation, ability, or immigration status. This is the only way he thinks he can prevent the solidarity of working people.
What happens when the ‘controlled’ are told to create a new false ‘racist’ narrative [disinformation campaign]?
Do the ‘SHEEP’ follow?
Think for yourself.
SEE truth.
Q
Q Post 3437
Take a look at Islamist agent Omar’s words:
This president would love nothing more than to divide our country based on race, religion, gender, orientation, ability, or immigration status. This is the only way he thinks he can prevent the solidarity of working people.
We’re not falling for it.
Ilhan Omar, July 16, 2019
What I find remarkable here is that these two women standing here, in the video in this tweet by Ilhan Omar – namely Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley – minus their comrades, Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocacio-Cortez – represent two things which both want WITH INCREDIBLE FEROCITY to take away MY rights and MY freedoms.
Namely, COMMUNISM and ISLAMISM.
In fact, they want to take away EVERYBODY’S rights – all in the name of “equality”.
In doing so, those two things – communism and Islamism – have LITERALLY gerrymandered REALITY ITSELF in every possible IMAGINARY way except the ways that matter.
But what I find MOST ODD is the following.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO CREATE THESE DIVISIONS.
They FEED on these divisions.
They NEED these divisions.
They STOKE these divisions.
They START these divisions.
They SPARK these divisions.
They CREATE these divisions.
They EXPAND these divisions.
They MAKE TOXIC these divisions.
And now – at long last – they actually have the GALL and the HELL-DESERVING CHUTZPAH to BLAME these divisions on somebody else.
I can in no way say this more strongly.
YOU are the fucking racist, Ilhan Omar. YOU are the fucking racist, Ayanna Pressley.
If you hate this country, which you do, please leave and go to CHINA.
IF you EVER come back, you may think differently about America. But I will tell you ladies this. We will NEVER let you turn this place into another China, where they have REAL socialism, and REAL concentration camps for Muslims, and REAL SLAVERY for PEOPLE LIKE ME.
SO GO TO HELL, SOCIALISTS.
We will NEVER let you bring socialist concentration camps here.
NEVER.
EVER.
Oh, and by the way, I posted about that earlier. Have a look.
Speaking of CHINA and the FOUR HATEWOMEN, I posted this on Gab, about “GO BACK”….
Why should the Four Horseladies go back? Enlightened SOCIALISM and KINDA SORTA EX-SOCIALISM IN China and Russia await their new citizens!
“Comrades Ocacio-Cortez, Omar, Tlaib and Pressley! Welcome to your new home in CHINA!”
China actually has REAL concentration camps for Muslims. You all should go to CHINA and be part of the real drama. Omar and Tlaib get to go INSIDE China’s concentration camps for Muslims, while AOC and Pressley can protest outside for one entire minute, if they’re very lucky, before they get sent to LAOGAI (otherwise known as concentration camps for politics), where they will surely be raped many times before they die, in lovely SOCIALIST CHINA!!! Where there is no racism, as long as you are the “right” kind of Chinese!
SOCIALISM! IT’S AWESOME – FOR THOSE IN CHARGE – FOR A WHILE!
This TO DESTROY ANTIFA (AND #AUNTIFA) TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse
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It turns out that we can thank LAURA INGRAHAM for tonight’s theme / meme of “The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse“.
If you need proof, here it is – right in the TREACHEROUS HUFFPO.
I find it remarkable that Laura SO QUICKLY and SO LONG AGO spotted the PERNICIOUS PESTILENCE that is this coven of new and remarkably un-American – no – I take that back – ANTI-AMERICAN congresswomen – who seek power over America.
If you want to watch that episode, here it is:
https://youtu.be/haslnW-eOlo
And YES – the “four horsewomen” comment comes at 4:25 in the video, if you want to check it out.
I found something rather remarkable, thanks to the FAKE NEWS SOCIAL MEDIA (YouTube) and its massive and omnipresent BIAS against all things Trump, Republican, etc.
The fake news was REALLY SCARED OF THIS SEGMENT. Not only did I find the HuffPo piece very quickly (and before I found Laura’s actual monologue) – I also found right next to it a “Young Turks” panel of women who spent 12 minutes going off on Laura’s criticism.
Here is THAT video – without the benefit of showing. Sorry, ladies – all you get is a link: https://youtu.be/GgQ53kzqcUM
Fortunately, our wonderful VSGPOTUS – defending AMERICA from those who despise it, has maximally unmasked these bitter agents of COMMUNISM and ISLAMISM.
So much so, that even the HORRIBLE COMMUNIST David Axelrod was forced to the surface, from his bottom-feeding mud-hole somewhere in Chicago….
YOU get to defend both the VIOLENT #ANTIFA and the SUBVERSIVE #AUNTIFA.
Or should I say – #AUNTIFAH.
There you go – it comes in two varieties – COMMUNIST and ISLAMIST. Take your pick.
So while we’re at it, using the TRUMP DOCTRINE to make the COMMUNISTS and ISLAMISTS behind the Democrat Party responsible for the angry loony radical communist and Islamist ladies of AUNTIFA(H), it’s time to also make them responsible for the VIOLENCE of ANTIFA.
And on that note, a VERY interesting video from NORWAY.
AH – the COMFORTING PRESENCE of a peaceful family man – STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFEND WHAT’S RIGHT, from those who USE CONFLICT AND HATRED to advance an UNWANTED AGENDA OF CONTROL over the PEOPLE.
Check out this man’s wonderful testimony.
HOW NORWAY GOT RID OF ANTIFA.
The video is painfully long, but the man’s slow, controlled, precise, oddly “West-Germanic” Norwegian-accented English, is weirdly soothing, and worth at least a short listen.
His prescription (as interpreted / analyzed / augmented by me) comes down to this:
they have to be arrested, every time they are violent or do something illegal
they need to be ridiculed as LOSERS – not bullied – but regularly ridiculed
their hatred of traditional masculinity and family must be recognized and criticized
they ALL have personal issues – FIXING THOSE weakens their abuse by communists
the abuse of these mental patients by communists to fill the ranks must be criticized
the TRANS movement that FILLS ANTIFA must be shut down as mental abuse
the TRANS movement is designed to GENERATE CONFLICTOS to become ANTIFA
the antifa groups now have support from the INTERNET – weaken / oppose it
they now have too much support from journalists – ridicule, criticize, warn and shame
journalists labeling normies AS NAZIS is exactly what the NAZIS did – demand they stop
antifa have both support and CREATION from academics – weaken, criticize, spotlight
antifa are “farmed” in universities – weaken, criticize, and SUE OUT THE WAZOO
the centrist politicians who will define the future of a peaceful nation must shun them
the contradictions of the movement (hatred and violence) must be made clear
ban the wearing of masks to force members to face both consequences and contradictions
members have to be given a PATH OF RETREAT to leave the movement, #WALKAWAY
(Thanks to Wheatie for a reminder about the banning of masks – VERY important!)
I can tell you, that after I listen to this video, then cross-reference it with the video at the end, in which UNIVERSITIES are identified as ANTIFA INCUBATORS, and catalog the individual points above, I am quite confident that we can destroy ANTIFA and make Democrats, and particularly the COMMUNISTS who are in control of the party, fully responsible for the mess.
This FIRE AND FURY FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
REMEMBER: This is our SECRET WEAPON OUT IN THE OPEN!
“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Today’s Q posts are tying it all together. Just DROP THE MK BLINDERS and you will see what’s going on. It’s like the left can’t win for losing.
When they went after Garrison, my initial reaction was just ANGER, but that anger BROKE THROUGH the MIND CONTROL and when the anger went away, I could see clearly what is being HIDDEN BEHIND WHAT THEY USE TO PROTECT THEIR CRIMES.
So time to look at some pertinent Q posts. Including FRESH STUFF!
Now if you listen to Alan Dershowitz, NOT ONLY does he claim that Lynn de Rothschild set him up with introduced him to Jeffrey Epstein – he claims that the accusations against him are part of a plot to extort 1 BILLION dollars from Les Wexner.
And we all know that THE WEX is probably good for a cool billion, with room to spare.
And suddenly one sees that Jeffrey Epstein is a lot like Magnitsky – he’s a TARBABY. No matter who you are – no matter how you touch him – you are TAINTED.
See how that works? And the TAINT just SPREADS, and spreads the CONTROL.
It’s all about control.
Speaking of control, a few announcements.
(1) This is not a game. The HEAT on the WOLF is picking up. Why? You know why – things are getting REAL. Certain things are heating up that I can’t talk about. If you don’t see a thread up by 1 AM on a night that I’m supposed to get one up, and I did not say something about it on the end of the current open thread, somebody please put one up. I will be back, but it it likely that I am dealing with stuff.
(2) There has been some speculation by some people that the other side has found a vulnerability of this site – the kind and good ladies who bring daily coverage of the news to us in the open threads. Since the other side can’t well fuck with me, the next best thing is reducing the amount of news coverage here “by any means necessary”.
Now I don’t know if there is any truth to the idea, that anything but fate and circumstances have drawn away two of our “reporters”, Sylvia and Phoenix, and thus the “predicted vulnerability” sure looks like a real vulnerability, even if only driven by the luck of the draw. Nevertheless, I have taken note. We have a vulnerability.
No matter what happens, I think it is worth potentially RECRUITING additional “news posters” who share the same positive yet honest, determined, MAGA coverage of the news, that Sylvia, Phoenix, Pat, Wheatie, and others have brought to the table.
SO – just start thinking about that. There is natural turnover on every site, but THIS SITE is strongly dependent on REAL crowd-sourcing. Just keep that in mind.
We’re always looking for a few good women.
(3) RUMORS to the effect that anybody but WOLF MOON has your email address and IP address are INCORRECT. So relax. Your personal data is SAFE. However, be advised that the WHITE HATS ROAM FREELY HERE, and there is always the possibility that the black hats poke around, too. And the ChiComs are just fucking everywhere.
If I think of something else, I’ll add it. But until then, BE READY.
Words are our bullets. Once we fire them, they stay fired.
Wolf Moon
Note that I DO NOT take down threats or “maybe threats” made against individuals. I leave everything up as EVIDENCE. Those who make such statements are welcome to clarify – the clarifications will stay up, too.
If I believe there is a chance that a person MAY be making such threats in an attempt to get this blog closed, or has been manipulated to that end, I will ban them either temporarily or permanently, in an ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I may also ban identified provocateurs as well.
I believe that the PUBLIC has a right to statements made PUBLICLY. Once a threat has been made, it is in the PUBLIC’S INTEREST (and the interest of this site) that it remain PUBLIC. I believe that the social meme of HIDING such information was slowly introduced by COMMUNISTS, and our media and law enforcement MISTAKENLY went along with it. The meme has also infected social media, after being propagated through LAWYERS.
HIDING TRUTH IS ANTI-JOURNALISM.
This is an ALINSKY TACTIC to make us FEAR THE TRUTH, and in particular to FEAR FREE SPEECH.
We cannot recover free speech without practicing it and TESTING ITS LIMITS CONSTITUTIONALLY.
ONLY DOXXING POSTS (true doxxing, not “deadnaming”, which is a form of transmania censorship) will be HIDDEN, not removed, after being recorded. All other evidence will be kept public, based on TRUE JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES, GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Also, we LOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, so DO THE MATH on whether any email address and IP information will be given upon request to RESPECTED law enforcement (meaning not that MURDERING, DISCREDITED, “STAND-DOWN” HILLARY SHERIFF IN FLORIDA, or politicized SDNY losers and haters acting in bad communist faith).
Please note that what may seem like a joke to one person may seem like a threat to others.
EXAMPLE: “milkshakes“
Conversely, well-wishes that traitors receive DUE PUNISHMENTS BY LAW are tolerated if not approved. Your words stand on their own – it is not my job to clarify, mollify, frame or explain them. It is my job to give you free speech and preserve a public record thereof.
Long story short, TL:DR, don’t make threats because they will not be taken down.
I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.
According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.
After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.
And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.
So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.
What happened can be summarized in a brief list:
Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.
Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.
We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!
Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.
This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.
Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.
This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.
They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.
What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.
They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.
Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.
We are dealing with professionals.
It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.
I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.
Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.
SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?
I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin
How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.
Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.
Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.
Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀
I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.
Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).
The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.
NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:
NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.
Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.
So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”
It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.
To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:
ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL
Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.
Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!
Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!
Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!
SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.
And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.
But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.
The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.
So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.
To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.
Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.
After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.
The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.
NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.
(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).
(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.
The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.
Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.
But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.
SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.
Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.
Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.
WE WERE WINNING.
The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.
One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.
I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?
Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.
Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.
They weren’t funny.
Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.
It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.
Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.
It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.
Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.
Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:
believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
unprovable, or even provably WRONG
“too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
seemingly designed to FOOL people
and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY
All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.
Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?
Yeah, like one even has to ask.
Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.
I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.
SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.
SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?
OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.
There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.
You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.
You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.
What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:
the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it
The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.
DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.
What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.
This is the point that pops out the most to me:
SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.
This is the beginning of understanding.
What else do we know? Keep going from there….
the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
they are definitely connected to aviation
they are probably connected to the government and/or military
they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative
Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.
I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.
Here we go. Enjoy the show.
Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.
One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.
Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.
In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.
The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?
create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.
To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.
But wait – there’s MOAR….
Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.
This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.
What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.
Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.
Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:
add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS
What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.
This is the power of disinformation.
So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.
And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.
Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.
How can I put this simply?
OK – let’s try this…
“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”
What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.
What could this be?
There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.
Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.
(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)
Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.
OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.
Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.
Now – let’s back up to REALITY.
All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.
What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.
