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We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
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The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.
Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:
Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government.
Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers.
The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.
But then it gets interesting…..
Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:
White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein.
White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones.
White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data.
The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein.
Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent.
As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.
Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?
But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..
Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.
ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.
This is worth a listen (in thread). I take it as a tip that there will be some predictable turbulence when indictments hit, and security has already prepared for it. Seatbelts. https://t.co/pUx0Xui5K3pic.twitter.com/0B2ZAGrCBw
Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.
Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.
Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.
The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.
Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.
Who believes Turkey has an extensive testing/tracing network that is making a difference? https://t.co/HMvMWsSekb
NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.
Not exactly easy in New York.
Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.
Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.
Dr. Steven Hatfill's clutch hit. Best take down of anti-Trump Hydroxy Hysteria media this side of @ScottAdamsSays CNN might be killing tens of thousands. https://t.co/b4ThfIaQvG
And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.
There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.
NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.
I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.
NONSENSE!
Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.
BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.
One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.
YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
HCQ Insights
One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.
I call this the “EUA EUA“.
“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”
The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.
One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.
The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.
The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
#LancetGate had a terrible price! #HCQ bans and discouragements KILL.
I think a new EUA that included both #HCQ *and* other drugs in the pipeline having antiviral actions, FOR EARLY USE (badly needed for antivirals) is the big life-saver, that would get buy-in from Big Pharma. pic.twitter.com/Dt3Fb5NXUZ
This will not only help absolve @US_FDA on the #LancetGate-effect downside of rescinding the prior EUA (by compensating quickly) – it will provide HCQ as an automatic standard to beat with new agents in compassionate horse-races EARLY. Basically moves up "right to try".
The fundamental problem we're ALL facing is what @zev_dr saw first – antivirals need to be early, but we perpetually move risks LATE in treatment (for good reasons). But I believe super-early and *LOW DOSE* may be KEY to next-gen agents AND antiviral therapies, avoiding tox.
I'm very excited about EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, with the latter now in use LATE. Opening up early treatment and letting HCQ be the punching bag old coach standard will breed champions. pic.twitter.com/MWGHYWG8eh
NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.
It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.
This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.
Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.
Systematic review of cardiac complications attributed to routine hydroxychloroquine use…
From the years 1963-2017:
– Only 50 events of cardiac toxicity (since 1963!) – Total of 12 deaths – Median patient had been taking HCQ daily for 8 YEARShttps://t.co/5hgnw6qccH
Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.
One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.
This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.
Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.
“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.
March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT
There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.
And now THIS.
Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine
What are we up against?
Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.
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AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
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Is about replacing
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And CORRUPT
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Twitter Alternative Twetch
OK – this is weird, but it finally makes sense. This is very geeky, but I think all of you will get it at a high level. It’s the mechanics where it gets tricky.
Remember when Andrew Torba of Gab was talking about social media “on the blockchain” that would be invulnerable to censorship? Torba was really enamored of the idea, even though he never did it – probably for scale reasons.
Back then, I have to admit that I didn’t really understand the concept, but now I do.
The way I stumbled into this is subtle. It’s a story. Here’s the story.
There is a guy I follow on Twitter named “@desantis”. He’s a very interesting mind, like a lot of people I know, but he is in a corner by himself, of the people I happen to know.
Desantis is part of the “crypto geek community”. They’re a strange bunch. In some ways, they’re in love with money, which – for various reasons – I am suspicious of, but which I totally get the DOWNSIDE of.
But crypto geeks don’t love money like misers – they love it like an idea, so they’re actually very unique and pleasant and I like their tribe, even though I’m not really even an honorary member.
Within that tribe, Desantis is a great medicine man, or perhaps the great priest in Jerusalem. The crypto geeks all bow before Desantis, it sometimes seems, yet he’s a bit of a hermit.
Desantis “gets” things at a very high level – that is his game and drive. He does not want to tarry on the details, which can be very hard. Steve, Scott, and Cthulhu here are all people who understand that details are important, and how reality actually happens. Somebody has to sort that shit out. My father was like that, incidentally. I am a detail person, too, but I love it when I get “general”.
Desantis – who calls himself a “generalist” – is almost allergic to details, except when he prepares small examples on what are essentially proofs on the backs of napkins. Of the generalities he gets, many are what “specificists” consider trivial, worthless, or mere byproduct of their work. But some of the things Desantis notices are really quite profound, and some are beautiful. Many are almost hard to put into WORDS. That is just TOO COOL.
Desantis is almost addicted to a kind of glass bead game where you can’t talk about the game too specifically or you spoil it.
Of course, many consider such types of thinkers to be near-crackpots, and they can be very frustrating to understand. However, once I found Desantis on Twitter, I loved the beauty of some of the things he saw, and thus I endeavored to be more like him. He became one of my muses.
NOTE that Desantis was followed by Jack Dorsey. Sometimes they conversed in “Desantis-level-cool-speak”. Yes. I would not be surprised if some Desantis ideas were used, stolen, riffed on, or patented. At the very least, warning of the threat he posed was given to the Cabal.
Anyway, I stopped seeing Desantis ANYWHERE. I assumed that he blocked me for my conservative views about Trump, but when I went looking for his posts – BOOM – it turned out that I was not blocked – he was simply not there. He was GONE.
I dug further. It seemed that Desantis was UNFOLLOWED by Jack because of “Twetch” starting. AH! Maybe THAT is where Desantis went!
Twetch is a weird marriage of blockchain, crypto, and Twitter, that is “on the blockchain” to some extent, so that it can’t be shut down, in the same way that bitcoin cannot be shut down.
Now I’m not going to get into that whole world, but here is the deal. In order to follow Desantis again, I made an account on Twetch, and I could use a friend or two to help me explore it, by posting and (and I hate this part – Black Elk – forgive me) making enough digital money to follow and “tip” the people like Desantis that I went there to follow.
SO – if any of you feel experimental, then please – start here and click away. We can experiment with making followers for free, because I have no money on Twetch.
Muchas gracias!
https://twetch.app/
My homepage:
Note both 2 and from. Lucky me!
That is what I was talking about, and why I took this journey.
NEXT….
OTC HCQ = National Security Requirement
This was posted here. It is a critical read.
Imagine this intelligence coming into a LOYAL CIA, not in sympathy (if not league) with the ChiNazi coronavirus “globalism-forcing” strategy.
I then re-posted it to Twitter (with permission):
Interestingly, this was shortly after I posted the following on a different thread:
Text version:
wolfmoon1776 July 29, 2020 at 11:56
OTC HCQ is a big deal. I would welcome it, despite the fact that RIGHT NOW, for COVID-19 I think it is best taken under a doctor’s prescription and supervision.
So WHY do I want it OTC?
So that supply lines are SOLID and we have enough to treat the whole nation overnight.
Why do we need that much HCQ?
COVID-20 and COVID-21.
WHUUUUT?
CHICOM-DEMOCRAT 4GW BIOWARFARE.
If CCP-DNC releases a NEW coronavirus, we need a general cure to disarm it IMMEDIATELY, without tanking the economy, and HCQ is beyond likely – meaning almost certain – to fulfill that mission.
America needs a PRE-CURE for coronaviruses. HCQ is that drug.
If you are following the vaccine development efforts – many of them – very expensive – using YOUR tax dollars – then even if you LIKE vaccines, you understand perfectly well that vaccine development is SLOW and PAINFUL.
MANY of these vaccines are using VERY SMART “re-usable” “platforms” – meaning that they can be used for lots of different vaccines, without a lot of “foundational” development. This is, in fact, why many of the vaccines started up SO QUICKLY – the developers simply swapped in something NEW – like new DNA, mRNA, or a recombinant protein, instead of “SARS” or “Ebola” or even “flu”.
SO – understand – even with all this massive effort and expense, using “fast” vaccine technology, we are STILL looking at about a year to develop a RISKY vaccine – risky because these vaccines will all be risky for many patients, especially those who HAD the disease, or those who WILL GET IT anyway. Those patients were NOT trialed. The vaccines will NOT be safe for them.
One year? One year, MINIMUM? One year, minimum, if YET ANOTHER disease “gets out” in that weird country where all diseases seem to mysteriously come from, namely CHINA?
Turns out that many of these diseases just happen to be coronaviruses, which just happen to be of huge interest to science right now, with lots of chimeric proteins being made – meaning ARTIFICIAL virus pieces (OH, but they would never put those pieces published in the journals together! NO, NEVER!)
Y’all starting to understand? What I am saying is NOT misinformation. It is simple, horrifying TRUTH.
Scientists in America, China, and everywhere else experiment with Frankenstein versions of these viruses – very specifically, the “arms and legs and body and internal organs” of these viruses. These Frankenstein monster viruses are actually quite simple, because the “organs” inside them are merely the blueprints for the arms, legs, and body. AND – remember this – those very same “blueprints” are USED to generate the arms, legs and body, that are used in these tests.
If you suddenly say “well that’s the whole damn thing”, then yes. Read on.
In other words, vaccine researchers have a “plausible reason” to create both the Frankenstein arms and legs of chimeric viruses, and because they have THAT plausible reason – AND DO USE IT – they also have a plausible reason to create the genetic instructions for the Frankenstein arms and legs and body – AND THEY USE THAT, TOO.
SO – let’s add things up. The scientists have reason to, and in fact do, create ALL THE PIECES needed to construct chimeric (meaning Frankenstein) viruses. The only thing which prevents them from doing it is……….. well, they may have SAID they would not do it.
Y’all starting to get how dangerous this is? And NOW – let me nuke anybody who argues with it.
Even if, for any reason, you said BUT BUT BUT, then I can simply say “China not only CAN get all the different, non-cross-immunity-granting, “novel” coronaviruses that it wants, by taking them from bats…….. THEY ALREADY DID IT.
So – get this – China is sitting on dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands of “novel coronaviruses”, many or most of which don’t grant complete or even significant immunity to the others. And that’s just talking about the ones China let us know about. They could have some bat coronas that are SCARY dangerous that they never told us about.
So – that is the situation.
National security involves RISK MANAGEMENT.
We have a drug, that seems to work, very generally, against coronaviruses. That drug has a strong safety record. It’s called hydroxychloroquine, or HCQ.
If it even POSSIBLY works on another bat coronavirus, avian coronavirus, or synthetic coronavirus, and does so in a timeframe faster than a vaccine can be developed, then HCQ availability becomes a dead simple and unarguable national security objective.
There is only one nation that would NOT want us to prepare for that possibility. That nation is CHINA. The only people who are NOT China who would want us to not prepare for that possibility are ON CHINA’S SIDE.
What this does is makes HCQ a kind of WHEAT/CHAFF SORTER.
Yes. Enemies of the people. Or their “controlled opposition”.
It’s VERY simple to use this wheat/chaff sorter. VERY EASY.
USE IT. And USE IT NOW.
"Air Claire" has just helped me prove that #HCQ OCT is an unarguable NATSEC objective. The "Muh Russia" scam protects CHINA. Why China? Because HCQ can fight ANY corona released by China. Think about it. Aire Claire is protecting CHINA'S EDGE.
I was going to discuss this, but then realized I didn’t have time to put this HUGE subject together.
But then I realized I actually had a PLACEHOLDER.
SO let’s entertain the Stalinist Holderites with the thought of WHAT’S COMING.
Get Wiser Than Solomon On Anna Chapman
John Solomon has a GREAT new book out – FALLOUT – which tracks SPYGATE back to URANIUM ONE.
To get a taste of what was found by John Solomon and Seamus Bruner, there is a GREAT interview of Solomon and Bruner by the Epoch Times.
Many thanks to Jan and the great Epoch Times team for this in-depth interview on Russia scandal and our new book Fallout. Was ‘Russia Collusion’ a Diversion From the Real Scandal?—John Solomon & Seamus Bruner Talk Spygate https://t.co/Gb9LbioRwD
The first 18:10 of the video cover the fact that “Spygate” actually goes back to the BEGINNINGS of the Obama administration, and center around URANIUM ONE. The mind-boggling “negligence” of the Obama administration is on full display.
Negligence. YEAH, RIGHT.
I REPEAT.
I repeat.
Now – there are a LOT of things I can say about this interview – with which I am in 90+% agreement. In particular, I could “go big” on how the authors are either intentionally or subconsciously holding back from the full accusation of REVERSO – that Obama and Hillary weren’t just being LIARS, accusing Trump of “collusion” with Russia. I could say that Obama and Hillary were actually IN LEAGUE with Russia, giving Russia both uranium AND Crimea for a VERY nice price. I could fit the CLINTONS directly into the long chain of events leading from the uranium-spying Rosenbergs and the polonium spy George Koval, to THIS VERY MOMENT, as part of Stalin’s plan to slowly denuclearize the United States.
BRIBES? Or FUNDING FOR THE INFILTRATION?
HOWEVER….
I am going to go smaller.
Staring at 18:10 until 24:32, a very important sub-story comes up, and HOW one interprets it is very important.
The story goes into ANNA CHAPMAN…..
WHOOPS! My bad!
I’m quite the fan of Maria Butina, Putin’s and Hillary’s useful cowgirl gun lover, who was given the “James Wolfe” kid glove treatment by Jussie K. Lie and Robert M. K. Mueller, and then kicked out of America with a velvet boot, as fast as they could hide her from scrutiny. But that’s not Anna Chapman.
THIS is Anna Chapman!
More details, including her relationships to both Skripal and Snowden.
I urge you to listen to the video from 18:10-24:32.
One of the KEY points is that the Anna Chapman spy ring was [allegedly] rolled up because a spy (not Chapman) was getting close to Hillary Clinton, trying to get a job in the State Department, after getting in close with a “friend of Hillary”.
Note that this is EXACTLY what should have happened with TRUMP, if Carter Page was actually a problem. But it DID NOT happen.
Funny, that.
Solomon goes on to explain that this was all explained to him. He was told by Daniel Hoffman, the CIA station chief in Moscow at the time of Anna Chapman and Uranium One, that Russia was just playing games of tainting both sides and ginning up mutual suspicions and turmoil.
That all sounds so nice and good. But yet they all understood this wonderful truth in Hillary’s case, but not in Trump’s case.
Funny, that.
And yet we see that Curtains Comey publicly goes along with this line of thinking, but PRIVATELY keeps the illegal, unjustified, and PHONY special counsel alive, pretending not to KNOW that it should have been CLOSED.
Funny, that.
In my opinion, what Hoffman told Solomon is the GASLIGHTING OF REVERSO.
Whether Hoffman was hiding Russian assistance to Hillary for investigative reasons (meaning, he was following the reverso), or to HELP her (as part of the reverso), is not clear.
The point being – my point – Anna Chapman was USED intentionally to “clean up” Hillary.
In my opinion, these DEMOCRATS and their MEDIA, in COLLUSION with the Russian “taint both sides” PUBLIC strategy, are able to help Russia PRIVATELY and DIFFERENTIALLY support the treasonous Democrats by what appears to be a neutral strategy ON THEIR END.
It’s VERY smart.
In the case of HILLARY, rolling up the spy ring was used to GIVE HILLARY COVER as a patriot – which of course is NOT TRUE. She goes on to give Russia all the American uranium it wants.
In the case of Trump, investigating a phony spy ring was used not to COVER Trump, but to cast suspicion on him. The strategy was made “safe for Russia” by using Western assets. If it fell through, as it did, Russia gets off clean, and Democrats take the hit at a lower level – CORRUPTION, NOT TREASON.
See how that works? Like I say – SMART.
Listen to the video AFTER 24:10. The interviewer, Jan Jekielek, gently tries to get the authors to lean forward on what I might call DISINFORMATION DIFFERENTIAL as a Russian “active measure” to support the treasonous Democrats, but NO BITEY.
Now I don’t know why Solomon can’t or won’t say this. Maybe America is not ready. Maybe he would be “getting out in front of his skis” with that accusation.
Funny – I was once taught to LEAN FORWARD HARD on skis, to keep control at high speed on the really steep stuff.
Hillary and Russia. There’s more to the story. Let’s FIND IT.
You know, it's funny, but those people in that Bundy case kept saying something about HRC, FBI, Russians and uranium. All that stuff is just sitting in records in some building in Oregon. Which I never realized has a LOT of uranium mines. Including some in national forests. https://t.co/DnDtOMghjBpic.twitter.com/36FDL22TLp
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For many of you, I can safely predict that this does NOT feel like “good news” to you. For others, it does feel like good news, but perhaps YOU are dreading being positive about vaccines in a movement which is largely skeptical of them.
MY MISSION is to make you ALL welcome this news, because you will FEAR NO TRUTHS.
To do this, I’m going to take you on a LONG JOURNEY to answer one question – Is Wolf going to take THIS VACCINE if it makes it to production?
Are you ready to go? Here is your first BRAVERY KICK. Repeat after me…..
“I shall FEAR NO TRUTHS!”
Are you ready to go? GOOD!
The first thing I noticed is that Seb Gorka – Q DENIER – is using the same GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINE IMAGE that measly Q blogger Wolf Moon uses all the time.
I downloaded this sucker back in APRIL, and used the original web URL in a lot of comments.
JUST SAYIN’. Gorka ain’t GOD. He’s just a small human in MAGA, just like the rest of us. He has to scrape images just like the rest of us.
Feel that FEAR slipping away?
GOOD.
Now – remember – POTUS is ALL-IN on developing a vaccine – and QUICKLY.
JUST SAYIN’.
Don’t fear it. UNDERSTAND IT.
"As one family, we mourn every precious life that's been lost. I pledge in their honor that we will develop a vaccine, and we will defeat the virus." pic.twitter.com/OZJWhL9A9t
— The White House 45 Archived (@WhiteHouse45) July 21, 2020
By the time we are done here, you will be able to OPINE SMARTLY about what POTUS is doing here, no matter what your personal view of vaccines – either for yourself or for others.
Let’s look more deeply at Seb Gorka’s article:
BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Secures 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine from Pfizer
The United States government has secured a $2 billion deal for 100 million doses of a promising experimental Coronavirus vaccine being developed by the U.S.-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.
The two companies, which are producing the vaccine together, said that the doses will be provided to America if they prove “safe and effective in humans.” The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that as a result of the government’s purchase, the vaccines would come at “no cost” to Americans seeking the vaccine once it’s available.
This is the latest vaccine candidate to be secured for the United States as a result of President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed,” aimed at expediting the possible cure and eventual eradication of the Chinese virus. Other companies developing possible vaccines that have been enlisted by the government include Novavax, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Emergent Biosolutions.
Here are the KEY POINTS you want to remember as we DIG DEEPER…..
deal is for enough doses to use (at least in the short-term) on PART of American populace – NOT ALL – although eventually there will be more than enough (see below)
it’s considered promising according to the TRUMP administration
vaccine is by US and German companies – NOT a Chinese vaccine
the US company is Pfizer – a key identifier along with BioNTech
conditioned on the vaccine being safe and effective IN HUMANS
part of Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed”
goal is CURE and EVENTUAL ERADICATION
staying on message – it’s the CHINESE virus
OTHER vaccines and makers have been enlisted by the government
Novavax
Johnson & Johnson
Moderna
AstraZeneca
Emergent Biosolutions
You will note that there is a LINK – and basically what we have here is RE-REPORTING of CNBC.
Under the agreement, the U.S. will get 100 million doses of the vaccine, if it works, and can acquire 500 million additional doses if needed.
German biotech firm BioNTech and U.S.-based Pfizer are jointly developing the vaccine.
HHS said Americans won’t have to pay for it.
Now – here are MY additional key points:
Pfizer and BioNTech are actually running FOUR different vaccines – any of them that wins may be the one that “succeeds” in this deal
A 30K participant trial of the/a Pfizer vaccine is expected to begin later this month (July 2020)
The most advanced candidate is called BNT162b1
Candidate BNT162b1 has been demonstrated to produce neutralizing antibodies in clinical trials
The article EXPLAINS the logic behind the Trump-Pence (Pence is my addition here) “Operation Warp Speed“
multiple companies pushed to increase the odds of a WINNER, SOONER
goal is ENOUGH VACCINE FOR ALL AMERICANS [not saying mandatory – just saying]
logistics assumes success and builds supply chains and SCALE while researching
note that this is kinda how the Manhattan Project worked
this is just the latest vaccine effort to get a federal green light
Novavax vaccine was similarly green-lighted at 1.6 billion dollars
Johnson & Johnson green-lighted at 0.456 billon
Moderna green-lighted at 0.486 billion
Astra-Zeneca / Oxford green-lighted at 1.2 billion
Emergent Biosolutions green-lighted at 0.628 billion
The explanation of “Operation Warp Speed” is useful, so you don’t have to be AFRAID of talking about it and being mocked by Democrats, should you use the somewhat corny name. It’s like many of Trump’s simple but extremely sound ideas. The names are almost like gatekeepers that turn away mockers, reflexive haters, and other people of “bad faith”, but those of good faith are invited in to get in early on the winning team.
Yeah, I smell PENCE all over that. A genius hire, to do exactly this strategy.
Here is Azar talking:
“This is what’s really unprecedented with President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. We are literally making the commercial scale vaccine now as we’re going through the clinical trial,” Azar told CNBC. “We’re doing that at risk, using the full power of the U.S. government and our financial resources to do that. No one’s ever done this before.”
Vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and others have been ramping up manufacturing capacity before their vaccine’s have been proven to be safe and effective and before receiving regulatory approval. That will help shave months off the time it takes to ultimately distribute a vaccine across the globe.
“We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, said in a statement. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.”
Developing a safe and effective vaccine is seen as crucial to curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 14.9 million people around the world and killed at least 617,200 people, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
While the companies and government race to deliver a successful vaccine, regulators and company officials have assured the public and members of Congress that they will not sacrifice on safety. All that’s at risk, they say, is money.
A very interesting concept – risk the money on any failed vaccines as far as premature commercialization, but END the “threat” sooner and win big on rebounding the ECONOMY.
THAT RIGHT THERE sounds like classic Trumpian “manage the downside to win” thinking.
NOW – let’s dig DEEPER STILL.
Why is Trump throwing the BIGGEST CHUNK OF CASH YET at this particular vaccine?
In my opinion, it is because this vaccine is showing itself to be SAFE AND EFFECTIVE already, despite being one of the “newer” technologies.
To see this, we need to go to a couple of LINKS in the last article.
First, some prior recent reporting by CNBC – clearly enough time (3 weeks) for the $2B to show up.
Pfizer shares jumped after it released positive results from its closely watched early stage human trial on a coronavirus vaccine.
The trial evaluated 45 people. Each participant received 10, 30 or 100 microgram doses of the vaccine or a placebo.
Pfizer said the vaccine was generally well tolerated, though the experimental vaccine also caused fever in some patients, especially for those who were in the 100 microgram group.
Here are my added key points:
ONE of the four candidates produced neutralizing antibodies. YES. Just one of them.
levels of neutralizing antibodies were 1.8 to 2.8 times higher than in recovered COVID-19 patients
after 28 days, all participants at the lower (and safer) 10 and 30 microgram dosages had significant levels of binding antibodies
all four candidates are based on mRNA technology
reactions to the vaccine were milder than, e.g., the Moderna vaccine (*my* reading)
reactions were primarily FEVER and injection site pain, with fever being more common in the 100 microgram group
MOST patients reported injection site pain, mild to moderate, but it was SEVERE in one case at 100 micrograms
looks to me that they will shoot for 10 or 30 micrograms, depending upon durability of immunity granted by those doses
100 million doses could be ready by the end of 2020
1.2 BILLION doses could be ready by the end of 2021
Next, we follow two PRESS RELEASES from Pfizer and BioNTech:
The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines, each of which represents a unique combination of messenger RNA (mRNA) format and target antigen. On July 1st, Pfizer and BioNTech announced preliminary data from BNT162b1, the most advanced of the four mRNA formulations. The early data demonstrates that BNT162b1 is able to produce neutralizing antibodies in humans at or above the levels observed in the plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, and this was shown at relatively low dose levels. Local reactions and systemic events were dose-dependent, generally mild to moderate, and transient. No serious adverse events were reported. On July 20th, the companies announced early positive update from German Phase 1/2 COVID-19 vaccine study, including first T Cell response data.
SO – we have an mRNA vaccine which appears to be – compared to other vaccines we’ve been hearing about – relatively safe and effective. NO SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS.
But YES – this vaccine is the NEW and somewhat unproven DNA/RNA vaccine tech.
So how do we JUDGE IT?
In my opinion, we first need to take a look at ALL the leading COVID-19 vaccines.
Vaccine Horse Race
The horrible China-Puppet WHO does have one redeeming feature – BUREAUCRATS KEEPING TRACK OF THINGS.
This URL is always a good place to go, to see where vaccines stand. Yeah, China and Bill Gates probably get to track the downloads, and maybe even infect the PDF file, but whatever.
That’s what I’m here for – to turn that nasty PDF into nice, safe, images.
Let’s look at the FIRST TWO PAGES of the document they produce, keeping track of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.
What can we GLEAN from this stuff?
We can’t FULLY understand this yet, but we WILL in a few minutes. For now, we can mostly understand the THIRD COLUMN – who is behind which particular vaccine.
The vaccines are ORDERED in terms of how advanced the RESEARCH is – in particular, how far along the CLINICAL TRIALS are. The TOP TWO DOZEN entries (#1 to #24) are all the vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS. #1 is the most advanced – which right now means PHASE 3 trials. The least advanced (#24) will only be in initial PHASE 1 trials.
So GUESS WHO IS AT THE TOP? (Look in the 3rd column for the developer…)
CHYYYNNAA!
Yeah, boy howdy, that sure is a surprise! The top three entries are all CHINA!
*eyeroll*
Then, number FOUR is the Astra-Zeneca / Oxford vaccine.
Then, numbers FIVE and SIX are CHYYYNNAA again!!! Think of that – the top 6 vaccines in terms of advancement, and CHYYYNNAA has FIVE of them. I guess that’s what happens when YOU RELEASE THE VIRUS.
SICK.
The next two are Western – Moderna and Inovio. Both of these have gotten a lot of press, not all of it good.
Moderna (#7) made the news b/c it came out with glowing statements about trials, but the fine print uncovered in the next few days was lots of serious side effects. What followed was a journalist pile-on, with lots of talk that Moderna has no experience, is stiff-arming the feds on safety, and is hyping more than fixing stuff. Very “Obama”.
Inovio (#8) is a DNA vaccine, similar to the mRNA vaccines. Look in the FIRST COLUMN under “Platform” to see the type. You don’t have to understand the platform quite yet. The Inovio vaccine was one of the first COVID-19 vaccines to get a lot of public attention, and is backed by Bill Gates and CEPI, as are MANY of the others. Gates is behind most of the horses in the race, so that he CANNOT LOSE.
Ask WHY.
Numbers 9, 10 and 11 are also DNA vaccines, with #9 being a Japanese effort.
Then come two more standard vaccines, Indian (#12) and Chinese (#13), leading off on the SECOND image / second page above.
Finally, at #14, we get to Novavax, which is the vaccine I like for myself, provided that it’s ever proven safe and effective (and useful) in people who’ve already had the disease. WHY I like it for ME, however, requires some explanation, but not yet – let’s keep looking at the list.
Skip over #15, the Turtlehead vaccine (made you curious, didn’t I?), which is also a vaccine that I am PERSONALLY potentially favorable toward. Seriously, it’s just a KY company (Kentucky Bioprocessing), and KY is in USA. But it is also a technology I favor as likely to be SAFE.
FINALLY, at #16, we get to the Pfizer vaccine. This is the one in question. Am I going to take it?
Not going to answer that yet!
Of the remaining entries, I’m liking FOR MYSELF numbers 18, 19, and 20, which include the GSK effort (#18) and the University of Queensland vaccine (#20), both in the news occasionally.
Of the last 4 entries, 21-24, thereby rounding out the TWO DOZEN vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS, #21 is the Imperial College vaccine often in the news, and #23 is the CHINESE ARMY (PLA) entry – an mRNA vaccine, which IMO is likely to be STOLEN TECH.
So – HOW DO WE JUDGE?
WELL – before we can really judge, it helps if we understand certain basics of vaccines.
Let me provide you with something VERY AWESOME that I found online.
Vaccine Evolution
Vaccines, like everything else in Creation, are EVOLVING INTELLIGENTLY.
We just have to make sure that they’re EVOLVING HONESTLY.
That’s where it gets tricky. But first, we have to understand the basics of how vaccines WORK – hopefully WITH the immune system, INTELLIGENTLY AND HONESTLY.
Vaccines as we now know them are designed to trigger the immune system into THINKING we have a disease, when we don’t really have it, so that when we would otherwise get the disease, we are already prepared for it, and fight it off. This is a very smart idea which has TRACKED human civilization.
Smallpox is the disease which taught us about vaccination. Before the term “vaccination” was generalized to its current state of “inducing immunity to a disease by prior and safer activation the immune system”, “vaccination” meant inoculation (intentional INFECTION) with cowpox or a relative, as a DEFENSE against smallpox. Vaccination was EXCLUSIVELY a smallpox therapy. Very interestingly, the OLDER, more dangerous practice of infection with heat-and-time-weakened smallpox virus was KNOWN by empirical observation, and dated back to at least the Middle Ages in China. That practice was called “variolation”.
Thus, cowpox cross-immunity to protect against smallpox was a LUCKY BREAK. Most diseases don’t HAVE a nearly harmless cowpox version of “whatever” to protect you from real “whatever”.
Thus, what “vaccines” are doing NOW is much more akin to the OLDER and MORE DANGEROUS practice of variolation – a form of inoculation – intentional infection with the very “something” you are afraid of – preferably something which has been tinkered with in some way so that it no longer kills you.
Inoculation is POWERFUL because it’s more generalizable, but it’s RISKY because it makes US responsible for SAFETY.
You know – if we were more honest, we’d call vaccines something else, like “variolines”, or maybe “inoculums”, or – OH YEAH – inoculations.
I know this is actually very simple, but I want to CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE on “vaccines”.
I want you to be not just INFORMED, which can be DISINFORMED, but to have real and deep UNDERSTANDING, which CANNOT be disinformed as easily.
Read the last three sentences of the above Wikipedia entry for “Variolation” to understand “what cannot be said in science” right now.
The method is no longer used today. It was replaced by smallpox vaccine, a safer alternative. This in turn led to the development of the many vaccines now available against other diseases.
See the trick? It’s a kind of “circle of changed meanings”, so beloved by lying Democrats. The potentially dangerous and generally iffy WOLF/SHEEPDOG of “inoculation” borrowed the sheepskin of the “safer alternative” vaccination to claim false but reassuring safety for what is really the tricky business that could be called “generalized variolation”.
We got LUCKY on smallpox, and now pretend that the same luck-magic can be extended to all diseases. HA! GET REAL, SCIENCE.
The reality is that the term “vaccines” is historical euphemism.
Read the history of smallpox to GROUND YOURSELF in REALITY.
Well, vaccines are now a much BROADER science. They are, basically, “tinkering with the immune system to do stuff” – and that includes STERILIZING PEOPLE by induction of auto-immune attack on their reproductive platform. One person’s nasty side effect is another person’s depopulationist panacea.
Have you ever considered WHY we’re not supposed to think about vaccine side-effects? It’s because “SIDE” depends upon your perspective.
“WHAT WE DO NOT EVEN THINK POSSIBLE, WE CANNOT SUSPECT.”
Yes, THAT is how big vaccines are, now. We can actually immunize people against PARENTHOOD.
SO – if you don’t understand vaccines, you are at the mercy of those who do. Be GLAD that the Hitler regime didn’t have sterilization vaccines.
Be CONCERNED that the CHINAZIS have them RIGHT NOW. They could sterilize ALL of the Uighurs and just move the HAN SUPREMACISTS right in.
Y’all see what I’m sayin’?
Why, with all the Uighur men gone, they could be sterilizing all the women – or all the men – right now – with just a SHOT OR TWO. Wait a minute. Somebody reported “medical experimentation” in those Uighur reeducation camps. Hmmmmmmm.
But let’s leave THAT for another time. My point is this – vaccines are a very BROAD topic. For now, let’s stick to “current ways to potentially fight coronaviruses by prior immunization”.
In that regard, I recently found a wonderful blog post which explains the different TYPES of vaccines being considered for COVID-19. This is an excellent article.
Classic and new technologies vying to be the first COVID-19 vaccine
Jeffrey Smoot Information Scientist, CAS Posted June 11, 2020
I could not have put together such a GREAT and SHORT summary of the different vaccine techs if I had spent years doing it.
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE! It’s actually a VERY fast read!
Now let’s look at the critical TABLE 1, which I’m quoting “vertically” and editorializing somewhat, based on a “monster” metaphor.
The table entries are unmolested. The entry titles reflect – somewhat humorously – my relative levels of trust/distrust of the technologies involved, and their state of readiness for “prime time” – expressed as effectiveness against “theoretical” pathogens.
Table 1. Vaccine Classification
Header Definitions (How to Read Table)
Type — What basic kind of vaccine
Active Component — may be abbreviation or acronym – GOOGLE IT!!!
Advantage — why you might trust this platform
Disadvantage — why you might NOT trust this platform
Vaccine Example — actual uses in existing vaccines you may or may not like
Bitten By Chocula
Type — Live, attenuated
Active Component — Pathogen capable of replication
Advantage — Strong and long-lasting immune response, usually lifetime protection
Disadvantage — Risk of disease
Vaccine Example — Tuberculosis, MMR, smallpox, chickenpox, yellow fever
Carry A Wooden Stake
Type — Inactivated (or killed)
Active Component — Pathogen chemical or heat treated to prevent replication
Advantage — No risk of disease
Disadvantage — Lesser immune response; booster shots may be needed
Vaccine Example — Flu, hepatitis A, polio, rabies
Silver Bullets
Type — Subunit (protein, polysaccharide, conjugate, toxoid)
Disadvantage — [none mentioned – surely there are some – W]
Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, cervical cancer, malaria
Bitten By Frankenberry
Type — Recombinant vector vaccine
Active Component — Non-pathogenic virus or bacteria as carrier of immunogen of interest
Advantage — Reusable for diverse antigens; no risk of disease
Disadvantage — Pre-existing or development of immunity to vector
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
Chocula Goes Back In Time And Marries Your Mom
Type — DNA vaccine
Active Component — Plasmid or other expression vector
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Lack of data
Vaccine Example — Veterinary medicine (canine melanoma, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus of fish, equine West Nile virus)
Chocula Commits Identity Theft On Your Mom
Type — mRNA vaccine
Active Component — RNA that encodes a disease-specific pathogen protein
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Effectiveness and side effects are unknown
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
This is a great chart because it orders things from “oldest” to newest in terms of general technology.
First live virus (weakened smallpox, cowpox, vaccinia), then dead virus, then specific fragments, then fake Frankenstein live virus, and finally the new fake “like a virus” DNA and RNA mucking around science.
READ THE LINK – each type is explained.
Let me review the different PLATFORMS (column 1) in the pages of the WHO document. These correspond to most of the types in the linked blog post.
Inactivated
Non-Replicating Viral Vector
Protein Subunit
RNA
DNA
VLP
These methods can basically be broken into two different sets of two categories each:
OLD-SCHOOL versus NEW-SCHOOL
IMMUNOGEN versus INSTRUCTIONS
Old-school methods are “old biology” – no recombinants, no gene sequencing, no plasmids, no fancy tricks.
New-school methods use our advanced knowledge of biochemistry to MAKE STUFF at the molecular and biochemical level, either before injection or after injection.
Immunogen methods inject the stuff that triggers the immune reaction.
Instruction methods inject DNA or RNA – pretty much like a VIRUS does – maybe even USING a virus, or an artificial virus-like construct – to get those instructions into your cells.
So now let me apply those labels to the platforms, including one that’s missing (live /attenuated).
Live / Attenuated – OLD-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
Inactivated – OLD-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
Non-Replicating Viral Vector – NEW SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
Protein Subunit – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
RNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
DNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
VLP – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
You see? There’s actually a lot of choice.
So – what should you trust?
THAT is for you to decide. I can only tell you what *I* trust. And WHY.
Vaccine Conservatism
I am generally – PERSONALLY – favorable toward vaccines, despite being 100% opposed to mandatory vaccinations. Vaccines ave always been good for me. Even the occasional minor aggravation of very mild arthritis in my injection shoulder is not really enough of a negative for me to skip the flu shot.
Nevertheless, I am careful to note that vaccines give me just as many and just as strong minor, negative side effects as any drug – and MOST drugs have minor side-effects that I can observe and report.
The new shingles vaccine, in my case, had stronger side effects than almost ANY drug I had ever taken. Nevertheless, a BARGAIN next to the HORROR OF SHINGLES.
So I’m no fool – vaccines are REAL medicine – with real side effects. AND – if you’ve gotten the new shingles vaccine, then you know that vaccines are getting STRONGER so they can work STRONGER and LONGER.
HOWEVER…..
The entire CHINA VIRUS psy-op and election interference program has done nothing to make me any less suspicious of vaccines. Indeed, it has made me MORE suspicious, if not an actual skeptic. Too many agendas. Too many lies. Too many “whoops”. Too many cute abuses of science. Too many media hit jobs. Too much Bill Gates near any and all of the above.
And CHYYYNNAA through and through the whole nasty affair. China, the home of CCP ChiNazis who love to BLAME THE VICTIM.
And which CHINAZIS could easily be STERILIZING UIGHURS with STOLEN GSK vaccine technology RIGHT NOW.
Suspicious? HELL YES!
On the bright side, I would not have been made aware of mankind’s current capabilities for eugenocide, had I not been “awakened” on vaccines, so I consider my new suspicions a stroke of good luck for any and all groups which HAVE BEEN, ARE BEING, or WILL EVER BE slated for GENOCIDE.
Uighurs! WATCH YOUR SIX!!!
One of the reasons Epstein was schmoozing all the big brains in science was – I am convinced – keeping track of the infinite bad possibilities that led to “Never Again”. SO *** DING DING DING *** I sure hope THAT particular baby didn’t get thrown out with the dirty pedophile’s bathwater. How the “this time we won’t fail” time-bomb of sterilization vaccines could have proceeded to where it is without being disarmed tells me somebody was fooling somebody. TSK-TSK. Shame on EVERYBODY.
ANYWAY – back to topic.
I think you could call me a VACCINE CONSERVATIVE.
I am not necessarily averse to any class of vaccine as I categorize them, or as others categorize them. I could take a new-school vaccine. I could take an old-school vaccine. I might take ANY of them, including the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, provided the following:
vaccine has been found safe and effective to TRUMP’S satisfaction
vaccine has been TESTED and found safe and effective for people who have already had either COVID-19 or any other weak coronavirus
vanishingly small number of cases of super-serious side effects
basic technology has no critical theoretical weaknesses
proven to NOT result in immune enhancement phenomenon
basic technology must show LIFETIME SAFETY in individuals and their children, or be able to rule out dangers – INCLUDING STERILITY in both generations – to my satisfaction
The LAST requirement is the one which, right now, makes several of the “new-school” technologies very likely NO-GO ZONES for THE WOLF. Much SHADE is thus cast on DNA, RNA, and viral vector types.
And as for the Pfizer vaccine (mRNA), I am much likelier to pick a DIFFERENT vaccine, particularly a NEW-SCHOOL recombinant protein subunit, neo-classical vaccine – much like the shingles vaccine I just took. Novavax is one of those vaccines. If it can be proven NOT to produce immune enhancement, AND it can be proven to be safe for symptomatic COVID-19 recoverees with lung damage, then I’m very likely to take it.
DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines, and adenovirus vectors are ALL too new and unproven for me to trust. Some of these – maybe all of them – are relying on retreaded edge tech from earlier gene therapy failures.
These platforms MIGHT NOT cause cancer 50 years down the road, or cause sterility, or cause disease in CHILDREN of recipients. But the fact is simple – WE DON’T KNOW YET.
Now – if I was 70 years old, I would probably take the very first safe and effective DNA or mRNA vaccine to come to market, not expecting to live to 120, or to have any more kids. But that’s not the case. I’d love a few more decades. If I had a choice – AND I DO HAVE ONE – I’d prefer a more time-trusted technology like protein subunits. Most of all, I would trust a vaccine that got green-lighted by Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor University, an expert on immune enhancement in coronaviruses.
Adenovirus vectors? They already have “issues” of several kinds, including recipients either having or developing immunity to the platform itself. Perhaps not insurmountable, but there are other problems. For instance, we know that viruses have LIFELONG SIDE-EFFECTS. We’ve had decades to discover most of the important natural ones. AND – very disturbingly – we have a government health bureaucracy prominently led for years by a guy (Fauci) who not only forgot about HCQ and chloroquine – very economically conveniently for his vaccine and new therapeutic interests – he figured that the best way to deal with the inconvenient class of “slow, obscure, cancer-causing viruses” was to KICK THE PRIMARY RESEARCHER OF THEM OUT OF NIH.
Sorry – I would like to try these fascinating but risky modern vaccine platforms AFTER they have been checked and re-checked by a POST-FAUCI NIH/CDC/ETC.
And that doesn’t even begin to address this very important question. WHO IS MONITORING VACCINES to make sure that nobody is sneaking in sterility vaccine components? Components that were likely ALREADY TESTED IN AFRICA?
Is the Catholic Church even AWARE of the danger? WHERE is Pope Epstein-Guevara on this one? WITH the depopulationists? Happy to see humanity sterilized by the United Nations, as long as the “grave danger” of climate change is badly addressed?
Sorry. I’m not ready for any “mandatory” vaccine. Just on principle.
SO – you have a lot of choices in future COVID-19 vaccines, ranging from “none” to “any”.
I’m not going to tell you what to think or do.
But I hope that by addressing this issue for myself, I’ve given you some things to think about – so that your chosen position on vaccines will not merely be INFORMED, but FILLED WITH UNDERSTANDING.
And with that, I bid you GOOD HEALTH!
W
Remember when we could trust vaccines? We’re ONE election from heading back there.
This QTH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Note which video from last week is NOW GONE.
https://youtu.be/kFD5sQjIyGg
If you recall, this was Dr. Kelly Victory’s video about COVID-19. More on the story below.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
YouTube will protect you from coronavirus misinformation, as determined by WHO [CHINA].
Medical Socialism Means Censorship
Medical socialism MUST censor what it does not want you to hear.
Remember Dr. Kelly Victory’s YouTube video from just last Friday? Here it is now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFD5sQjIyGg
And here it is, re-posted by somebody, and removed AGAIN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0iGbD23sZo
Well, somebody named “Sam Q Public” did the public service of re-posting it ONE MOAR TIME, and here it is (for now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YEZlZZyJY
Susan Wocommie, familial Menshevik, is relentless, but WE ARE MOAR RELENTLESS.
And if you want to find Dr. Kelly on YouTube, well, here she is.
That one is from HER ACCOUNT, which you are free to FOLLOW.
So where is MEDICAL SOCIALISM taking us? GLAD YOU ASKED.
Euthanasia to Eugenics to Eugenocide
Where does Stalinist medical socialism lead? Where does it WANT to go?
It is my contention that medical socialism leads to CONTROL OF HUMANITY at a biological level. It will control who lives and who dies, and who (that lives) gets which organs of who (that dies).
Now, I’m not the biggest watcher of eugenics around, but certain things TRIGGER me into action, and Melinda Gates going “blacks first” on coronavirus vaccines was one of those things. To me, it was a SLIP – a careless “tell” that gave up the game.
Bill is much slicker. He is NEVER not in 100% cover-up mode. Melinda – well, shes’s simply not as good of a LIAR. So – as you can tell – I do NOT trust her motivation here.
So let’s talk about “emergency” coronavirus vaccines, but not too loudly, lest people in the media engage in their role of suppressing some thoughts, instilling others, and basically controlling what we think.
I was BORN just a FEW YEARS – a child’s lifetime – a few gray hairs – after somebody tried to *LITERALLY* wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. AND MORE. Black people were way up there on Hitler’s list. Trust me – if Hitler would have won, sterilization vaccines – NOW WORKING – is how he would have gotten rid of Africans, and made Africa a “white utopia”.
Do you believe me? That Hitler would have used modern science for genocide? Of course he would have.
And it’s not a one-time deal. GENOCIDE dressed up as EUGENICS dressed up as PUBLIC HEALTH is bound to happen again. It’s TOO EASY. People are TOO TRUSTING.
My mother, who SAW IT, told me all about it. And my father filled in the technical details.
Hitler’s eugenics movement had ONE GROUP of higher priority for “improving humanity” than Jews and communists, and almost NOBODY stood up for them – the disabled, the retarded, the infirm, and the bedridden. Yeah, I said “RETARD” – so you would REMEMBER. They change the LANGUAGE so you will FORGET HISTORY.
The “medical socialism” of Nazi Germany – their “death panels” – encountered little opposition to the elimination of those deemed “medically unfit”, so that is where it started.
Hitler and his bunch of psychopathic “national” socialists WARMED UP German society to genocide with the easy pickin’s.
That’s not much different from nursing homes, is it? First they keep you out – THEN they kill them.
MANY people get this – the anti-abortion people – the anti-euthanasia people – and many black people who are labeled “conspiracy theorists” – even the execrable Farrakhan. Not enough Jews get this nowadays, but they used to. When ELIMINATION OF JEWS was a recent historical FACT, Jews actually believed that re-creating the conditions needed to pull it off again might be a bad thing.
I am going to be very blunt, because I understand the science, but most people do not.
I am less disturbed by Iranian nukes, which CANNOT KILL ALL JEWS, than I am by American socialists, and beyond them the global socialists, who seem absolutely determined to GIVE the power to accomplish genocide “medically” to the STATE.
And HERE’S THE RUB.
99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY – just like it was in Hitler’s Germany.
I repeat, for the benefit of EVERYBODY on our side.
99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY.
Well, what SECRET do we have HERE?
Is ANY GROUP understanding the danger here? A lot of blacks do. Thank GOD for that. Even the HORRIBLE FARRAKHAN has his saving grace, of realizing that “eugenocide” of blacks is something a LOT of people would NOT risk their LIVES to fight.
I’ll just say it right here. If you’re not watching out for the genocide of OTHERS, you’re not going to be there for genocide against YOU.
The Nazis used a SLICK combination of two things:
(1) OPENLY making the public moderately comfortable with genocide, by selling EUGENOCIDE – the allegedly morally, ethically, and socially acceptable elimination of some group – such as those who exist only by the charity of others, and who are often in some discomfort or pain, and who have a “low quality of life” by the standards of others.
(2) SECRETLY enacting REAL genocide, using bureaucracy as both a COVER and an enabler.
Once every individual is “speech-separated” from every other individual in a socialist society, people are AFRAID TO DISCUSS delicate topics, like “what is Hitler really doing with the Jews?“
Under those circumstances, everybody is IN FEAR OF THE STATE. People do NOT talk about what might get THEMSELVES – as an individual – in trouble.
So TROUBLE befalls EVERYBODY.
We cannot allow this SILENCING to happen in America. If we do, then GENOCIDE – starting off with EUGENOCIDE – is not far behind.
Eugenocide will not look like this:
Nor will it look like this (from Cloud Atlas):
It will look like this:
Now this picture is actually very innocent. There is a FAKE NEWS item that says this is Obama, Fauci, and Melinda Gates in the Wuhan lab.
NO.
It is at NIH, during the Ebola crisis. AND there are very similar pictures of TRUMP and Fauci at NIH, during the COVID-19 epidemic.
Both are innocent. AND THAT IS MY POINT.
What follows MAY be innocent, too. But nevertheless, based on exactly how Hitler DECEIVED Jews with a “nice story” about where they were ALL going, EUGENOCIDEwill look more like this:
I ain’t sayin’ Melinda Gates wants to kill Blacks and Injuns. But I’m saying – very clearly – that when somebody DOES try to kill Blacks and Injuns, it’s gonna look JUST LIKE THAT – if not even more charitable. It will be NICE, and it will be RACIALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, or otherwise SELECTIVE based on a potentially EUGENIC division.
I’ll explain how it would be done in another post. When you realize how easy it is – RIGHT NOW – to carry out secret genocide, and LOOK like you’re doing the opposite – it will scare the #### out of you.
Are y’all starting to see why ORIGINAL AMERICAN RACE-FREE is the BRAND YOU CAN TRUST?
Good.
Next item.
The Logical Triviality of X Matters
The evil genius of “Black Lives Matter” is that it is three things at once.
Trivially True
Incomplete
Almost Meaningless
Saying “Black Lives Matter” is like saying all of the following.
White Lives Matter
Pencils Matter
Slaves Matter
Heroes Matter
Villains Matter
Ted Bundy Matters
American Flag Matters
Trump Matters
Pedophiles Matter
Books Matter
Matter Matters
Mass Matters
Something Matters
Nothing Matters
Things Matter
X =
The temptation is to make it MORE MEANINGFUL – by saying something like – I don’t know – maybe “All Lives Matter”. That is a TRICK – to bait you into the appearance of negating or disagreeing with a trivially true statement – one which moreover has an IMPLIED GOOD MESSAGE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
Democrats are saying “X equals”. If you say in response that X equals ANYTHING, or add some condition, build some theorem, or draw some corollary, you have fallen for the trick.
Let’s be honest. Throw away all your preconceptions about the phrase BLM, and who is behind it.
Do black lives matter? Just answer THAT question, with no BUH BUH BUH about what comes next.
Of course they matter. Here is the logic:
IF {All Lives Matter} AND {Black Lives Is A Subset Of All Lives} THEN {Black Lives Matter} = TRUE
Ignore the organization. Ignore the Marxists. Ignore the riots. Ignore the violence.
The statement {Black Lives Matter} is TRIVIALLY TRUE.
The phrase “black lives matter” is actually not very comforting, but people presume that it is. Note that people who think black lives are worth only 3/5 of a white life, can AGREE with the statement “black lives matter”. People who think black lives are worth nothing more than the cost of a CREMATORY RIDE can agree with the statement. People who think black lives are a NEGATIVE, and need to be eliminated with sterility vaccine components snuck into specific lots of a coronavirus vaccine, can agree with that statement.
Yup. Here is a NAZI agreeing with “Black Lives Matter”:
“Black lives matter. We had better do something about them before they overpopulate.”
The incomplete statement “black lives matter” is actually very insidious. Sometimes I think the biggest racists in America – perhaps some secret Nazi grandchildren left over from WWII and Operation Paperclip, came up with this gimmick.
Here is what Wolf Moon says – a much more meaningful statement.
“Black lives matter as much as white lives. Will you agree, Democrats?”
This puts the Democrats back on the spot. “All Lives Matter” does not. If the Democrats try to say that black lives matter in any way not equal to white lives – either MORE or LESS – they are TOAST. But they don’t. They RACE-BAIT unassailably with the safely meaningless phrase “black lives matter”.
Democrats are doing what they have done since slavery – teaching SOME blacks, by horrible example and evil psychology born of the master-slave relationship, how to be tricky and deceitful like them.
Democrats are teaching blacks to play a MIND GAME that turns them against Trump voters, who will predictably try to “de-race-ify” “Black Lives Matter” into “All Lives Matter” – a noble gesture which plays the weakest card in the white hand, and psychologically tells black people on behalf of Democrats “these guys are not really your friends – WE ARE – because we say ‘black lives matter’ without questioning it.“
A nasty trick.
SO – don’t be afraid to admit the Truth.
Black lives matter.
Or – if you really want to get their goat – black lives matter as much as white lives.
You don’t disagree with that, Democrats – do you?
DO YOU?
Yeah. Watch the commies stutter, stumble, trip and fall.
Hi everyone here! I an going to ask for a very nice favor from everyone. Kiddo’ 7th birthday is Friday, on Q day. 7/17 how nice is that? Summer birthdays are hard with friends scattered on vacation(I know bc my birthday was today/yesterday) but this year he has had no friends to do anything with.
Would you all individually take a moment and post a message, poem, worldly 7 year old appropriate joke or gif, or good advice for his future?
This is only if Wolf or mods are ok with it.
I will print out what I can and save everything else. He knows about the site so getting told Happy Birthday by other people will make him extremely happy.
Perhaps you recall my PREVIOUS correspondence and “review” of the new, two-shot shingles vaccine, Shingrix – or more specifically, my review of the FIRST SHOT.
Hey, it’s not every day that I get to post something that’s not only about the unspeakable issue of vaccines, but is both PRO-VAX and ANTI-VAX at the same time. I mean, what’s the use of FREE SPEECH if we can’t use it to troll EVERYBODY – including PENCILNECK? Whoops – WRONG PENCILNECK. Let’s try …
Well, I’m BACK to report my experience with the SECOND SHOT.
This was all something of a surprise.
I had FINALLY – in LATE JUNE – gotten to see a doctor [IN PERSON] for COVID-19 aftermath. This was LONG AFTER having gotten the disease in late January [LONG STORY] and THEN spending the first half of this year figuring out how to treat both the disease and the aftermath MYSELF [AND WITH YOU GOOD PEOPLE], mostly through internet rumors, discussions here, and self-experimentation by trial and error.
After all the discussion, the data gathering, the prescribing, the scheduling, and the blood-drawing, I was asked WHICH ARM for my vaccination.
“WHOA-OH!”
Yes, I had forgotten that it was only just in September of 2019 when I had been infected with the mythical disease of RETROSYNTHETIC DINOPOX – namely recombinant glycoproteins of Herpes zoster virus plus various adjuvants – which had knocked out my left arm like a line-drive baseball, and left me mildly sick for the better part of a week.
Was I ready for a REPLAY?
UGH.
Well, as I stated before, retrosynthetic dinopox is bad, but SHINGLES is far, far worse.
Yeah. Gimme the disease shot.
So – what has it been like? In a word…..
“SYSTEMIC”.
While I immediately noticed both soreness and swelling at the injection site, deep in the muscle of my triceps (back of the arm), most of the local effects were delayed.
Much like the FIRST shot, redness did not reach the surface for over 24 hours, and was not pronounced until about 36 hours.
In contrast, systemic effects were almost immediate. I could tell that something was happening while I was driving home. It was that uneasiness one feels at the beginning of the flu, or – COUGH, COVID-19x (more on “x” later). It’s somewhat non-descript, but unnerving – the unmistakable feeling of incipient illness.
Unsure of how significant these effects might be, I plotted a course which would take me close to both a hospital and an outpatient clinic, in case things got bad. Fortunately I got home without incident.
Once home, I was able to take it easy and observe things more carefully. I was feeling joint stiffness, dull and very diffuse headaches (more aptly labeled discomfort), and a kind of light tingling all over – a mild but very definite “electric shock” sensation. This sensation persisted for about a day, too.
Taking a brief nap, I noticed a dull ache in my kidneys some time after awakening. This was very reminiscent of what I had experienced with COVID-19x, as well as earlier [mild] episodes of kidney stones when I was not hydrating enough. I had treated both of these before with vitamin C and plenty of Gatorade and water – the same trick worked here.
By evening, I noticed that I was experiencing mild chills. These lasted almost all night, but they were gone by early morning. This is one of the more interesting parts of the experience. I don’t remember experiencing chills as part of the FIRST shot at all.
They weren’t terrible chills – no shaking – no chattering teeth. Just some goosebumps and a mild desire to put on a jacket in an admittedly cool summer.
I decided not to alter my normal regimen of vitamins and supplements. I had considered backing off on all minerals to ease the burden on my kidneys, but the truth is that I needed to treat the post-COVID endothelial damage to my kidneys more than I needed to go easy on them. This turned out to be correct – my kidney aches went away without reducing my mineral supplements in any way. Good hydration and vitamin C were all I needed.
The first night (or, TBH, morning) of sleep with round 2 of retrosynthetic dinopox was reasonable but not exactly pleasant. I eventually felt rested, but just barely.
My sleep was filled with recurring dreams of – as best as I can describe it – being medically strafed by small planes, the noise of which would shoot away a kind of weird ground cover grown by the vaccination and COVID-19. I won’t even get into the spiritual aspects of this, which involved American Indian converts to Christianity around the Revolutionary War. That’s a bit harder to explain.
These were not normal dreams. These were definitely “I’m coming down with something” dreams.
The next day, however, was much better. ALL symptoms were diminishing, except for redness at the site of the injection. I eventually has a “prophylactic Gatorade” before bed, but otherwise had a normal day, and even did some light yard work and heavy lifting.
Things were “on the mend” – at least SYSTEMICALLY.
Interesting, though, that by the SECOND night (36 hours), redness at the injection site had increased to the point where it was clearly visible. The total area of redness was as big as my whole hand and fingers. There was still localized swelling at the injection site.
Redness maximized by the THIRD night (60 hours). It diminished somewhat by the 4th night (84 hours), and was almost GONE by the 5th night (108 hours). I was back to “heavy work” earlier that day. At this point, I regarded the vaccination drama as OVER.
SO – the bottom line – FOR ME – is that the SECOND Shingrix injection was NOT AS BAD as the first.
Take that for what you will.
Thus, my final recommendation is the same as before. BE A SMART VACCINE SHOPPER. Listen, if you want, to what I have to say – apply it to your own case and beliefs if you so choose. You don’t have to do what I did – just know what I know, and consider whether my experiences have any bearing on yours.
And THAT is the way all reviews should be, IMO. We report. You decide.
Just a quick note to let you know that – if you think this site has gotten slower lately, as the election approaches, it is NOT your imagination. The site is getting slower and slower, because EMBEDDED TWEETS are loading slower and slower.
I don’t know WHY they are loading slower and slower, but they are.
I finally had enough, and turned off scripts in my browser, so that I don’t see the full graphics of Tweets.
It is well within Twitter’s rights to choose IF and HOW MUCH it wants to serve tweet data to pages not its own. It may even limit data for ideological reasons, because that is a stated part of their policy – that they can limit their data going to sites based on THEIR (Twitter’s) policy toward content on those sites. Twitter has explicitly stated that it will even pass judgment on is own users, on Twitter, for content posted elsewhere, so passing judgment for TWITTER data posted elsewhere is simply to be expected.
To beat this slow-down, you need to TURN OFF SCRIPTS on this site, using whatever browser or privacy extensions you happen to be using. You will then have to click on URLs in Tweets to see them fully, in the same tab or a new tab. Pretty much like any other link.
Without scripts, your browser will likely load the TEXT of the tweet, but not the full contents of the Tweet, including pictures, videos, etc.
It is a small price to pay, for FAST LOADS and NO WEIRD UP-SCROLLING after the loading. That weird up-scrolling is due to the full loading of embedded Tweets. Turn off scripts and it is gone – but so are pictures in Tweets.
It’s a tough choice, but you may want to make it.
Meanwhile, consider Parler. Parler offers links that provide a fast view of a “Parley” in a new tab if one chooses to click the link.
This FEARLESS FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
This open thread has TWO additional purposes.
FIRST, it is going to be a TEASER for an article on “GuginoGate” – the latter being the FAKE NEWS SCANDAL underlying Trump’s tweet which is cited above.
Let’s look at that more closely…..
Yeah, let’s watch how he holds position on that last swipe, even after the cop shoves him away – WHICH I CONTEND WAS THE DESIRED RESPONSE BY THE POLICE TO SET UP WHAT FOLLOWS!!!!!…..
YUP – the DEFINITIVE ARTICLE on GUGINOGATE is coming!
But now I would like to REMIND everybody about one possible reason WHY Adam Schiff – serial liar and hoaxer – is so utterly HUNG UP on a really stupid idea that might be called “VACCINES CAN DO NO WRONG” – an utterly untenable scientific position, despite all the GOOD that smart, honest, proven and well-tested vaccines – like drugs – have to offer.
Adam Schiff – very wrongly – believes that any position other than “vaccines can do no wrong” is “misinformation“.
HORSEFEATHERS!!!
One of the PROOFS that vaccines can indeed “do harm” is the fact that vaccine candidates are FAILED all the time for such harm.
ANOTHER such proof is that THIS HARM is exactly the principle on which STERILITY VACCINES are based.
Sterility vaccines (or sterilization vaccines – take your pick) are DESIGNED to cause very specific harm that will render people STERILE without otherwise harming them.
It is important to know that significant progress has been made on these things.
First, go HERE to listen to a whistleblower’s report on that progress:
Take it with a few grains of salt, but it still sounds both tenable and authentic to me.
NOW – it BOTHERS people – and I’m one of them – that SCIENCE has been doing a lot of lying lately, and has really earned the name FAKE SCIENCE. It’s not like we can trust everybody in science.
So – some people think the reason nobody is TALKING about sterilization vaccines, but great progress is being made on them, is that EUGENICISTS – like HITLER – are rearing their ugly heads again, and that THEY are the ones pushing SECRET RESEARCH on sterility vaccines.
I mean – let’s face it. Hitler would have MUCH preferred a sterilization vaccine to Zyklon B as a means to “solve the Jewish problem”.
SO, go HERE for Natural News to offer THEIR theory on where this is going.
NOW – I don’t know if Mike is right about the eugenicists plotting to kill blacks, but Margaret Sanger and the Eugenics movement did indeed want to reduce the population of black people – that is very well documented.
And a eugenicist pretty much started World War II, if I recall.
And eugenicists are probably still around, although I think they keep a pretty low profile. But they certainly seem plausible. Enough that people believe science fiction involving such things is “highly likely to happen”.
But killing blacks?
Frankly, if CHINA were driving “sterilization wars”, I would think WHITES would be their primary target, but whatever.
Mike Adams’ view of COVID-19 actually sounds very well-informed to me. Not a lot of speculation there. That’s good. But the bottom line is that the real issue isn’t whether Mike Adams is credible. The real issue is that mainstream science and medicine, after all the literally murderous hate and trickery dropped on hydroxychloroquine from their ranks, are NOT CREDIBLE.
This GET OFF YOUR F’N’ KNEES TO FALSEHOODS FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – as in WE’RE OPEN NOW, YOU EVIL FREAKS, AND WE’LL STAY OPEN – but don’t OPEN UP on a looter unless the LAW is on your side – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Weakness is not strength. Confessing sins for which you bear no guilt is not noble…America, straighten your spines. Unbow your heads. No home or nation was ever saved by kowtowing to invaders or ransackers. Unless you are praying to God, #GetUpOffYourKnees. pic.twitter.com/cNjlQ3DIfU
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
It took Michelle Malkin for me to see the truth here.
“Weakness is not strength. Confessing sins for which you bear no guilt is not noble… America, straighten your spines. Unbow your heads. No home or nation was ever saved by kowtowing to invaders or ransackers. Unless you are praying to God, #GetUpOffYourKnees.”
It is important to understand what the SATANIC AMERICAN BOLSHEVIKS did to you, General Mattis – and all you others who FAIL to understand what is going on here.
It is VERY simple.
Communism needs to get you to LIE.
Getting you to TOLERATE lies comes first, but eventually, communists must GET YOU TO LIE YOURSELF, and to lie TO YOURSELF.
There are many people who don’t even like to tell “white lies”. Those people do NOT allow a communist / socialist state to “progress” – to MOVE “FORWARD” – on LIES.
What has to be done with those people is to get them into the WADING POOL OF LYING – namely a “good lie”. Thus, FALSE VIRTUES are constructed, against which resistance becomes psychologically burdensome if not painful. This accounts for the RELIEF FELT when we GIVE IN to the virtue signal, and virtue signals are given to communist falsehoods. This relief is almost orgasmic – it is nearly sexual in its psychology – and the LEFT knows this.
EXAMPLE: “All POWs are HEROES.”
Remember – this idea did not come from the RIGHT – it came from THE LEFT. The idea that all POWs were somehow “heroes” came from American BOLSHEVIKS who “opposed” the Vietnam War – a BAIT WAR – that THEIR CIA started, and which THEIR politicians limited to insure a “loss” – pure PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE.
This is an incredibly important point. This is a technique that the BOLSHEVIK LEFT uses over and over again, to FLANK US ON THE RIGHT – to get us to make VIRTUE SIGNALS TO THE RIGHT.
FALSE virtue signals to the RIGHT are every bit as DANGEROUS as false virtue signals to the LEFT.
There was a Hollywood KGB-CIA psy-op movie – THE DEER HUNTER – which was used to help deliver the psy-op message of “all POWs are heroes” by playing on YOUR EMOTIONS. It was stunningly beautiful propaganda.
It was hard to see it then. It’s easy to see now.
There are MANY REASONS that these things are done – they INTERLOCK and SUPPORT EACH OTHER. Be sure to arm yourself with “AND” LOGIC when BOLSHEVIK TOOLS come at you and say things “must have been done” for ONE REASON ***OR*** THE OTHER. This is XOR BULLSHIT. Satanists and communists LOVE complex, interlocking, self-supporting actions – things done for multiple reasons which obscure each other – all of which are built on LIES which roll you “forward” on intentionally designed and highly dishonest shifting sands.
What follows is merely ONE REASON – just one of many – why the “all POWs are heroes” virtue signal was done. It was a future REAP on a VIRTUE SIGNAL which was SOWED in the past.
The fact that John McCain – highly controlled opposition of the communists who was deeply studied and brainwashed by the Soviets and Chinese in Vietnam – was a beneficiary of this program – a false “hero” – is NO ACCIDENT. He was used as a credible weak candidate to push the VIRTUE SIGNAL of voting for communist Barack Obama. McCain – believe it or not – ELEVATED Barack Obama.
[Incidentally, Bob Dole – another very weak and flawed veteran candidate – was used in a similar way – TWICE – to help elect Jimmy Carter and to help re-elect Bill Clinton. Our inability to criticize weak candidates who are protected by the VETERAN virtue signal, and who must in turn reflect false virtue on their communist opponent, is KEY to communist success in many elections.]
This is all MASTERFUL SOCIALIST KABUKI.
And it was all made possible by getting AMERICANS – AS A CULTURE – to accept a “nice” falsehood – that all POWs are heroes.
Does it now make sense why President Trump came out swinging against John McCain, socialism’s false idol of their lying virtue signal, as one of his VERY FIRST ACTIONS?
NOW you understand why the communists HATED Trump and Flynn, and broke every law they could to STOP THEM.
So – back to the “you need to apologize to blacks” virtue signal. I am an expert on this one – from even back BEFORE JFK WAS KILLED – when I was a CHILD. Civil rights were being drawn before being QUARTERED.
Before communists – relentless and invisible – killed both JFK and MLKJ as part of their attempted takeover.
King in Terrence Mode. Other pics catch him here in Side-eye Hotep Mode. King GOT IT, and THEY KNEW.
Note that the anti-American Communist Democrats could not get you to accept Colin Kaepernick’s “kneeling” against the American Flag. They had to make it PERSONAL and play on individual WHITE GUILT – a false idol THEY constructed.
But what they have done here is STUNNING. They have “two-stepped” the programming.
It is VERY ANALOGOUS to inserting what appear to be “skip-generational” faux-American communist operatives like Ted Lieu, Stanislav Vysotsky, Jussie Smollet, Weijia Jiang, the Vindman twins, Marie Yovanovich, and Jussie K. Liu. These people do everything that we would expect from highly placed Russian and Chinese spies – except they have incredible cover and non-attribution. They act like spies and saboteurs, when we finally catch them, but yet “they simply can’t be that”.
Note that I often refer to Ted Lieu as “The Two-Step ChiCom” – where step one is that somebody comes to America and appears loyal, while step two is for immigrant, immigrating child, or American-born offspring to show true communist colors in REALITY. If you understand how socialist psychology works, people don’t even have to be CONSCIOUS of this process, because faux refugee socialist parents – or even socialist-influenced parents – will do the trick.
Two-stepping is a POWERFUL technique. STALIN used it all the time.
So what is happening here?
The FIRST STEP is simply to get you to KNEEL.
The SECOND STEP is to redirect that kneel AGAINST AMERICA.
Don’t kneel. I’m WARNING you.
“Wotep been told you.”
No kneeling – it’s time to STAND.If you have to kneel, PRAY.
W
PS – use the “post-Sophisticated-Trump-videos” mental algorithm to understand the brilliance of what “hoteps been told you”, just like what “Trumps been told you”. Listen to THOUGHTS, not ACCENTS. Listen to ULTIMATE logical thinking.
This FRIDAY THE JUNETEENTH open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – as in LET’S OPEN UP ALREADY – but don’t open up on a looter unless the LAW is on your side – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Seriously – FRANCE just banned use of HCQ for treating COVID-19.
DUMB!
Looks like there is going to be a SCIENCE and MEDICINE FIGHT in the middle of RIOTS and DECLAS.
You may or may not be aware that in addition to chatrooms on Gab, we now have a GAB GROUP…..
You will notice that T3, who is a big Gabber, is already posting a lot of things there which may be of interest.
I invite you to GO THERE RIGHT NOW, JOIN, AND MAKE A POST. Takes about a minute, if you’re already on Gab. If not, then join Gab (see instructions below).
Gab Groups are a bit like a GROUP TIMELINE – analogous to your FEED on Twitter or Gab, but the timeline is SHARED with other members of the group, so that it’s a bit like a Facebook group, only MORE PUBLIC.
Anybody here can join this group – AND – very important – if we are ever shut down here, THAT is where we will now meet.
MEET UP BY THE OLD MILL or whatever. Gab Groups.
It’s not the same as “Gab Blogs” – a mythical entity that might someday exist – but it’s very close. Neon Revolt has a HUGE group on Gab, and it allows an enormous amount of Q research to go on. Likewise, if we are ever NOT researching here, we can go there and continue without missing even a DAY.
To go to the group and JOIN, just click this link, and then JOIN!!!
WARNING – read this warning first If you type your REAL NAME into any field in social media (such as “Gab” or “WordPress) that says “Name”, you risk people seeing that name. In fact, if you use your REAL NAME in ANY WAY in connection to a social media account, you risk being “doxxed”. There …
That will get you going. This is from when we all got on Gab, as a protection against this site being closed down.
Once you are on Gab, then go to our Gab Group and join. VERY EASY.
Now – the issue of GAB CHAT.
Gab Chat is very beta (meaning BUGGY TO SIGN UP), but it is HIGHLY SECURE. That’s why we use it. It does NOT leak to the DNC and their CHICOM and UN GLOBONAZI allies, like Twitter DMs do. Personally, I don’t say anything on Gab Chat that couldn’t stand to leak, and I assume that the NSA sees everything I write anyway. HOWEVER, sometimes it lets us get ahead of the TRICKIEST TRICKS that the other side pulls, like trying to send RINGERS into the blog. If I talk about that on Twitter DMs, I might as well tell Hillary Clinton and the CIA. Nope. Not happening.
You MAY not be able to get onto Gab Chat, but here is an article talking about it. My advice is to not waste your time unless you want the challenge.
This is just to let you know that Gab Chat and Private Messaging are BACK and in BETA TEST – but the beta product is REALLY GOOD (although it does NOT work on Firefox yet – BECAUSE FIREFOX). REPEAT – GAB CHAT AND PRIVATE MESSAGING DOES NOT WORK ON FIREFOX YET! PLEASE USE ANOTHER BROWSER …
Comrades, the Twitter Directorate of Narrative Approval has found The Conservative Treehouse in violation of state interests for challenging acceptable thought around the coronavirus pandemic. Dissent cannot be tolerated:
We have been notified our continued participation in the national conversation is contingent upon our agreement that panic and fear is the only opinion in the interests of the state. Unless and until we accept the terms of state interest we must remain silent.
Fight on comrades; while we still have a nation worth fighting for. Do not allow yourselves to be overcome with dark imaginings. Keep a smile in your heart and a kindness toward your neighbor. We will forever support you… Remember, “rally to the standard”.
I am absolutely not going to tell Sundance what I think he should do, because HE is the best person to judge how to fight these scumbags. Whatever he chooses to do, I will support 1000%.
That said, I will remind him that he is profoundly influential on Twitter, and that if he runs the FIGHT NUMBERS, he may (or may not) judge that it’s worth “not standing firm on the figurative / literary definition of a hoax”.
Yeah, the WHOLE THING – the TOTALITY – is a hoax. One of the most MASSIVE, CYNICAL, and EVIL hoaxes ever pulled on this species.
BUT – and this is where they NAILED Sundance by Trump playing along with the hoax – it’s a real disease, scary as hell to old people, and it fucked me up. Not terribly, but bad enough that it will change my life. I feel WINDED many times every day now. Not super-badly, to where I need an oxygen tank, but I might be interested in getting one for sleeping, when this is over, and I can actually get in to see my doctor, not just on Skype.
I spent over 30 years of my life NOT SMOKING so that I would have the lungs I had at Christmas. I absolutely LOVED smoking – and I gave it up so that I’d have a healthy retirement. My frigging WIFE is desperate for me to outlive her – she doesn’t want to die alone – she’s in GREAT health – and now it looks like this is not gonna be easy to pull off.
THAT PART ain’t a hoax.
But what these fucking VACCINE OLIGARCHS and CHINESE CCP VIRUS SCUMBAGS and DNC HOAXERS and MEDIA CLOWNS have all done IS an ORCHESTRATED, STAGED, BULLSHIT virus release PLOT – or call it one more damn HOAX – to force THEIR form of government on us.
And they can GO TO HELL if they think I’m going along with that.
