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“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
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Q is firing up some amazing posts on the PSYCHOLOGY of what the DEMS are doing.
Fake News Media’s attempt to truncate size of movement while ‘building up’ size of the opposition.
Inauguration Day to current, attempts to diminish and instill a ‘you are the minority’ mindset (narrative) continues.
People want to believe they are part of the bigger group (size equates to accuracy in most minds)(acceptance)(the ‘right’ side).
One of the primary purposes of POTUS holding a RALLY is to demonstrate the massive appeal, energy, and size of this movement (+ability to correct false reporting and/or highlight achievements, goals, etc.).
(Compare & Contrast) 45-RALLY vs ANY SINGLE ONE of the [D’s].
What is obvious & true?
Why does POTUS mention crowd size at each and every RALLY?
What is projected by the MSM?
LIES becomes TRUTHS.
TRUTHS become LIES.
Smoke & Mirrors
You are the MAJORITY.
People UNITED & AWAKE is their BIGGEST FEAR.
Do you think it’s a coincidence we are being attacked aggressively by some of the biggest media corporations in the world right after our return?
If we are simply a ‘conspiracy’ or ‘LARP’ or ‘some kid living in a basement’ as stated repeatedly, why do the world’s largest media Co’s continue to dedicate so much attention and time to attacking us?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to stop a LARP?
Billion-dollar Co’s expending resources to attempt to ‘shape the mindset (narrative)’ to prevent and slow digestion of the masses?
You attack those you fear the most.
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
You are witnessing the greatest ‘coordinated’ misinformation attack (campaign) ever to be launched against the public – all in an effort to protect themselves from prosecution (public exposure) and regain power (control).
[Attempted removal of the duly elected President of the United States by illegal [manufactured] means]
They believed they could win [con] public support by controlled assets (media, tech, H-wood…).
These controlled assets set out to immediately create division through the use of a pre_designed misinformation campaign.
Groups such as ‘Antifa’ were funded and formed to prevent and/or lessen the appeal for ‘regular’ hard working Americans to gather and express non_narrative viewpoints.
Control of this ‘projected narrative’ depends primarily on their ability to ‘con’ the masses into thinking they are the majority.
The mindset of most: If the majority of people believe ‘this’, than ‘this’ must be more true than ‘that’ [CIA_CLAS 1-99_56_Human_Psych_&_Emotional_Distress_IIED].
Without public support – they are powerless.
We, the People, hold the power.
UNITED WE ARE STRONG.
— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
You are witnessing the systematic destruction of the OLD GUARD.
Q
Q Post 3411
To me, these points are key:
Why does the media rush to ‘shape’ events?
Why are the same ‘keywords’ always used?
Psych 101 – If you see and hear the same thing over and over again……..
They do not want you thinking for yourself.
They do not want you challenging their authority.
Logical thinking always wins.
Trust yourself (always).
Attacks will intensify [FAKE NEWS [arm of the D party]].
Enemy of the PEOPLE.
Q Post 3409
This tells me that we are doing the RIGHT THINGS to BREAK THE PROGRAMMING.
WE Rush in to “shape events” for ourselves
WE create our own “keywords” to understand reality
WE repeat and USE OUR OWN LANGUAGE
WE insist on THINKING and AVOID inhibitors of it (PC, silencing, etc.)
WE do not give up our right to challenge authority
WE practice and refuse to abandon LOGICAL THINKING
WE trust ourselves and NEVER STOP trusting ourselves
WE refuse to listen to the DEMOCRAT FAKE NEWS
WE remember at all times that it is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE
Now I understand why cutting the cable was so effective in stopping the mind control.
I mean – a somewhat SIMILAR thought occurred to me in the past, when we discovered through Project Veritas, that many DSA members working in our federal government were actually SABOTAGING things, and proudly admitting to it on secret camera.
It occurred to me at that time, that people belonging to parties which ADVOCATE secret sabotage of “the system”, such as the DSA, should simply not be allowed to work in government.
But NOW it occurs to me, that rather than approaching these crimes PREEMPTIVELY, which is constitutionally questionable, we COULD simply prosecute PROCESS SABOTAGE – you know – like CLOWARD-PIVEN operations – as a CRIME.
In fact, wouldn’t it be wonderful the TROLL THE MEDIA into having to COVER the idea of Cloward-Piven – something they MUST call a “conspiracy theory” – but which every American can understand – WILL UNDERSTAND – and will BELIEVE?
If you need a refresher on Cloward-Piven, OR you just want to see one of the most AMAZING predictions of our current state of affairs, then just watch THE FOLLOWING VIDEO about Cloward-Piven and OBAMA, from June of 2010, as that FIRST Tea Party election approached.
This video is, hands down, one of the most ACCURATE predictions EVER, of where we are RIGHT NOW. It is 10 minutes of your life that you will NOT REGRET having invested.
Now – I have covered Cloward-Piven before. In fact, let me provide you with a SHORT biography on the subject. Three in-depth articles I’ve done:
Right now I am researching one of the most horrifying unrevealed cases of Cloward-Piven TREASON which has yet to see the light of day. Once people see this, the jig is up for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Their utter betrayal of Americans will ASTOUND. And they are not alone. There are several other Democrat names …
I have wanted to get this article out, but I was stuck on “number 10”. Sure, I could come up with TEN. EASY. But I needed a good one for NUMBER 10. I mean, I needed a REALLY GOOD ONE. And our blessed President, Donald J. Trump, VSG, just gave it to me today. Stick …
TL;DR: If you want to end the crisis at not just OUR border, but ALL borders, don’t just fight the THEORY of Cloward and Piven – fight the PRACTICE of Chicago Marxists Coleman and Lozano. It is time to bring the TRUMP DOCTRINE of ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY to CHICAGO, and then to THE WORLD. Long Version: …
OH, I know all about Cloward-Piven. And every day I learn more about the two radicals, their CLINTON support group, and their extremely damaging ideas.
But it never occurred to me that ADMITTED SABOTAGE and ABUSE of government solutions MIGHT actually be a CRIME that we could prosecute.
So what do you think?
Assuming that you agree with the basic idea, HOW should we go about DIRECTLY CONFRONTING the insanity of Cloward-Piven?
W
What would YOUR Trump tweet about Cloward-Piven say?
I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.
According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.
After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.
And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.
So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.
What happened can be summarized in a brief list:
Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.
Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.
We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!
Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.
This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.
Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.
This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.
They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.
What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.
They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.
Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.
We are dealing with professionals.
It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.
I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.
Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.
SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?
I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin
How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.
Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.
Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.
Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀
I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.
Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).
The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.
NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:
NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.
Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.
So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”
It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.
To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:
ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL
Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.
Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!
Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!
Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!
SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.
And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.
But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.
The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.
So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.
To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.
Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.
After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.
The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.
NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.
(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).
(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.
The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.
Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.
But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.
SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.
Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.
Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.
WE WERE WINNING.
The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.
One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.
I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?
Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.
Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.
They weren’t funny.
Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.
It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.
Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.
It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.
Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.
Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:
believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
unprovable, or even provably WRONG
“too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
seemingly designed to FOOL people
and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY
All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.
Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?
Yeah, like one even has to ask.
Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.
I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.
SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.
SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?
OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.
There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.
You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.
You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.
What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:
the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it
The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.
DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.
What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.
This is the point that pops out the most to me:
SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.
This is the beginning of understanding.
What else do we know? Keep going from there….
the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
they are definitely connected to aviation
they are probably connected to the government and/or military
they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative
Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.
I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.
Here we go. Enjoy the show.
Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.
One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.
Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.
In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.
The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?
create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.
To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.
But wait – there’s MOAR….
Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.
This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.
What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.
Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.
Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:
add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS
What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.
This is the power of disinformation.
So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.
And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.
Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.
How can I put this simply?
OK – let’s try this…
“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”
What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.
What could this be?
There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.
Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.
(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)
Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.
OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.
Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.
Now – let’s back up to REALITY.
All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.
What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.
Forty years ago, I would have been writing this as a letter to the editor of my favorite science association magazine, AFTER the president of that association would have ALREADY said something similar PUBLICLY to the President of the United States, BUT – well – times have changed, and the heads of science associations don’t say things about leftist groups that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t approve first.
So today WE THE PEOPLE talk about one of my favorite sciences – CHEMISTRY.
Let’s talk about relative dangers – what is hype and what is not hype.
Remember the “Deplor-a-Ball” after the Trump inauguration, when those DNC-Creamer-Antifa types (whoever) were going to use BUTYRIC ACID to attack the ball?
It’s time for some BRUTAL honesty for the sake of DISCERNMENT.
People on our side made a big deal about butyric acid being “corrosive” at the time, but the truth is, butyric acid is a weaker acid than acetic acid, the main stuff of VINEGAR. Pure acetic acid is not bad stuff – one could actually wash their hands with it, as long as they washed their hands thoroughly afterwards with water. Acetic acid, like butyric acid, is a WEAK ACID.
Weak acids give you TIME – maybe even INFINITE TIME – to wash them off. If they’re going into your STOMACH, where it’s already even MORE acidic, it’s not even a big deal.
That is why we put acetic acid – whoops, I mean vinegar – on our salads. We enjoy the MILD SENSATION of its WEAK ACID NATURE on our TONGUES. On our MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
Are you starting to see this?
Even when acetic acid is BAD, like when you cough a bit from inhaling some salad dressing, or when we use acetic acid to make cute little lab animals COUGH (but not too badly!) in tests of COUGH SUPPRESSION, it just ain’t that bad.
By the way, they teach this stuff in universities. Or at least, they used to.
Butyric acid, like acetic acid, simply isn’t that bad. It STINKS really, really, really badly, and THAT is what the evil Democrats were going to do – STINK UP that fancy party of uber-hip, good-to-be-bad, Trump supporters.
That’s it. It was a STINK ATTACK. But many on our side tried to make it sound worse than it was, because they could, because the LOSERS and HATERS had basically made a really dumb error in using a stinky stuff with the name ACID in it. The Democrats didn’t respect the POWER of psychology and information over actual chemistry.
Yeah, I know the feeling – the Dems who plotted that attack are indeed evil punks who deserve to go to jail – but it was still just a STINK ATTACK – not a corrosive attack. Even if Democrats had thrown that stuff on people, it would have been like throwing a mixture of RANCID BUTTER AND VINEGAR.
Yes, it probably says “corrosive” and “danger” on the label. Today, everything is OVER-LABELED, and we don’t have much DISCERNMENT of true chemical dangers. Everything is deadly in California for a reason – so that nobody has discernment. They WANT people to be like babies, utterly dependent on “experts” like me.
BUT NOW FOR SOME DISCERNMENT. Now for something discernibly different.
Fast forward to ANTIFA, and their threats to throw water balloons filled with “muriatic acid and wax” at conservatives. THAT, my friends, is a whole nuther beast. THAT is where CHEMICAL DISCERNMENT comes in.
Muriatic acid is – as you can see here – as much as 28% hydrochloric acid.
28% Hydrochloric acid is, for lack of a better term, concentrated hydrochloric acid.
People quibble over concentrations here, but it is frigging MEANINGLESS. As I will explain.
From Wikipedia:
Hydrochloric acid is produced in solutions up to 38% HCl (concentrated grade). Higher concentrations up to just over 40% are chemically possible, but the evaporation rate is then so high that storage and handling require extra precautions, such as pressurization and cooling. Bulk industrial-grade is therefore 30% to 35%, optimized to balance transport efficiency and product loss through evaporation. In the United States, solutions of between 20% and 32% are sold as muriatic acid. Solutions for household purposes in the US, mostly cleaning, are typically 10% to 12%, with strong recommendations to dilute before use. In the United Kingdom, where it is sold as “Spirits of Salt” for domestic cleaning, the potency is the same as the US industrial grade.[14] In other countries, such as Italy, hydrochloric acid for domestic or industrial cleaning is sold as “Acido Muriatico”, and its concentration ranges from 5% to 32%.
Even the toilet bowl cleaners based on HCl are shocking to me in their strength, and they are nowhere near 28% – more like 5-10%. I have ordered my wife NOT to buy those things. We had to air out the house the last time she used one. I smelled HCl everywhere and I did a MAJOR “WTF”.
I’m not saying this isn’t a damn good product. What I’m saying is that people need to be damn careful with it, and – well – my dear wife needs a more carefree product, let’s just say.
Note that the PRINCIPLE here is the same as what ANTIFA is doing with added “wax”. The “gel” is a way to make it STICK. They’re just talking about even stronger acids.
Check out the warnings on this gelled 5-10% acid. Seriously. READ THEM.
Trust me, these differences in high (>5%) concentrations only mean a few seconds MORE or LESS before it does the SAME NASTY STUFF TO YOUR BODY. These are all STRONG CONCENTRATIONS OF THE SAME ACID – a substance known as hydrogen chloride.
If we are brutally honest, then the reason that they CALL the commercial, industrial-grade stuff “muriatic acid” – an older name that NOBODY uses in the laboratory any more – is simply because it DOESN’T SOUND AS BAD.
Oh, they’ll give you some industry jargon history blah-blah-blah excuse, and technically it will be true, but FUCKIN’ A THIS SHIT IS JUST CONCENTRATED HYDROCHLORIC ACID.
AND CON HCL IS BAD SHIT.
I know this sounds harsh, but I personally think that police need to SHOOT anybody throwing balloons, once strong acid has been identified. They need to END THE THROWING IMMEDIATELY.
Here is why I feel this way.
I have DEALT with both butyric acid and muriatic/hydrochloric/whatever acid. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Hydrochloric is one of the ones they WARN PEOPLE ABOUT in the lab. Nobody warns you about butyric acid, even if you can find a bottle.
In contrast, chemistry students in laboratory are going to use concentrated HCl a LOT, and they need to respect it. Nothing will FREAK OUT a chemistry department head faster than hearing that some freshman spilled concentrated hydrochloric acid all over themselves.
The first thing that will be asked is HOW FAST the stuff was washed off. SECONDS COUNT.
Imagine a pint of the stuff in THE FACE.
Hydrochloric acid can blind, or if inhaled deeply as a liquid, mist, or concentrated vapors, KILL. A strike in the face, like Andy Ngo of Quillette got with the concrete “milkshake”, would likely blind or kill him, if it was con HCl instead of concrete.
He would have been in WAY worse shape than what you see below.
Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv
— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@HarmeetKDhillon) June 30, 2019
That, my friends, is the result of NORMAL weaponry. ROCKS, basically.
HCl in the hands of ANTIFA is a CHEMICAL WEAPON.
When we are in the laboratory, we ventilate butyric acid for STENCH, but we ventilate hydrochloric acid for DANGER.
Inhale a little bit of water, and you are on the ground coughing. Inhale concentrated hydrochloric acid, and your lungs are burned from the inside.
Are you starting to see why I am basically thinking the feds need to send in the troops and restore order to the whole bloody left coast? This stuff is ridiculous. This isn’t America. This is the frigging Russian Revolution.
By IDIOTS who scream about RUSSIA? Seriously?
It’s literally INSANE.
I think I’ve gotten every kind of concentrated acid on me. Every one of the “strong acids” is horrible in its own way. Sulfuric burns through clothing and skin, but it’s slow. Nitric is faster and oxidizing and does interesting things to clothing, but it’s not super-volatile. You can get a fuming version of either sulfuric or nitric acid. Those are a bit nastier. Nice, fresh, highly concentrated hydrochloric acid fumes on its own, just a bit, and the fumes have a very seductively pure but deadly look, kinda like the railroad crash above. Hydrochloric is the most like a chemical weapon. It’s volatile, searing, fast, and strong.
The idea that these ANTIFA people want to make it even worse – more like napalm on human skin by adding the wax – that is just sick. It’s like our “yippies” went from protesting ABOUT napalm to MAKING IT.
I’m pretty sure that ANTIFA is Robert Creamer’s work, because he said he likes to use mental patients, and these people sure seem like mental patients to me. They are – quite literally – criminally insane, thanks to PC and antisocial socialist brainwashing.
Antifa has gone too far with hydrochloric acid. In my opinion the plotters need to be arrested now, or the police need to use DEADLY FORCE once these people start throwing concentrated strong acid.
Have we ever had people like this in America before? Certainly not that I can remember. This is UNAMERICAN. What is WRONG with Oregon? What is WRONG with their governor? What is WRONG with Portland? What is WRONG with their mayor?
Are they taking LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE – a.k.a. LSD – a.k.a. “acid”? (Which is not even an “acid” at all, by the way.)
Or does PC actually have the power to make people mentally unbalanced?
Whatever is happening, Q is right. These people are SICK.
Okay, folks. Think of this as recon #101. We’re scoping our opponents, looking for good memes for the 2020 election season. Yes, in order to be informed citizens, we have to watch the debates. We KNOW the press takes comments out of context, on the left and on the right——– so let’s be accurate, at least.
And there’s the chance our President will be tweeting comments to keep life interesting. Keep in mind, however, he leaves for the G20 at 1:00pm today and might be over the Pacific or otherwise engaged.
Hey Treepers, do us all a favor while you are here. If you have info about a particular Dem Candidate, please drop the info into the thread below. We can then come back to this thread as a reference.
Should be a fun evening. No throwing television sets into the driveway! Put on your happy face and come to the party!
Whaddya mean Bernie Sanders is trying to sell me on Socialism?
Woke up this morning and flipped on the news. First story was about a survey of how socialism is gaining traction among women. What? Makes no sense! Contradiction in philosophy. How are women supposed to be modern, strong, make their own decisions, independent…. yet want to be taken care of…. not by a man…. but by the state? Too proud to compromise with a husband to make a successful marriage…. yet willing to sell their souls and become passive…. to the state? Women don’t like being trapped in oppressive households and relationships. Ladies, be careful what you wish for.
Socialism is a bad idea for men and women…….. but it’s even worse for women, and all of us should know better.
I read Bernie’s platform in 2016 and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America (DCA). If you have not read it, give it a try. It’s a contract for your life, and you should read it before signing up…… Bottom line, DCA/Bernie/AOC and her buddies advocate for government control of healthcare, banking, and all energy. Anyone who’s gone beyond an 8th grade education understands this is a bad idea…. that is….if we want to be free.
Everyone who has ever had their heart broken, especially women, should easily understand this conundrum. Nothing is ever ALL sunshine and rainbows. Without the rain, there are no flowers. Without ugly, there is no beauty. Without money, there are no great shoes…..
The problem is, socialism isn’t all gimme, gimme, gimme….. free college, better wages, guaranteed jobs, and life as a special rainbow unicorn in utopia. It’s a trade-off. No one talks about what we have to give up…. to get the “free” stuff. The politicians never mention the bad parts. WHAT college will the politician ALLOW you to go to? WHO will select YOUR job, YOUR career (because there will be a bureaucrat and a test to take in order to decide your career path)? WHAT will you be allowed to eat? HOW many children will YOU be allowed to have……. if any? WHERE will YOU be ALLOWED to live? It won’t be YOUR choice…. a bureaucrat will make the decision. With socialism, those days of “choices” are gone. Let’s not be stupid, here.
With capitalism, we have to work for and earn what we receive. What are you willing to do? We all want to be trim and fit, but are you willing to exercise and eat well?
We all want to be loved, but are you willing to invest in relationships, compromise, forgive, and heaven forbid, occasionally admit to being wrong? Could you relinquish your position even when you know you’re right? Because to be loved and in a relationship will take a LOT of capitulation….. for both parties. Or is it easier for you to get a dog/cat… where you can always be right?
We all want to be rich, but are you willing to forego instant gratification, work endless hours to develop your product or idea, buck the trends and your friends, remain determined……. even after you may fail multiple times? Could you do it? Or would you rather have “rich” fall into your lap…. easily.
Think about it. What are you willing to “give” in order to “take”, because there is always a trade-off.
Bigger questions….. What would make you happy? Does controlling others make YOU happy? Do YOU really think you would be one of those in power in a socialist system? I’m laughing…. some people assume they will be…… Do you have realistic expectations? What makes YOU so special? Why shouldn’t your neighbor be in charge of what YOU can have?
Would being rich, loved, or handsome/beautiful make you happy…… or is it really something else which is makes you angry, driving you, makes you restless, causes your fear? And most importantly, WHEN do you answer those questions? When you’re 20? 30? 60? Or never….. Do you die with that baggage because it’s too hard to ask those questions? Look around, how many people do you know who live….. and die…… with a chip on their shoulder? Wow, what a burden to carry.
Aubergine said something yesterday or day before and it made my blood run cold. In a personal moment, she spoke of her mother being incredibly manipulative. The relationship with her mother caused her great pain, but taught her to stay away from people like her mother. She learned. I didn’t wish for the pain of Aubergine’s experience as a child, but oh, how I was jealous to not learn the lesson earlier in my life….. because it would have saved a great deal of pain in my life. And right there, I was guilty. I wished for Aubergine’s knowledge/experience……. without the trade-off of pain, and the wisdom with comes from the pain.
Nothing is ever free. What’s the trade-off? Yin and Yang. Equal and opposite reactions. Cause and effect. A free and easy life promised by politicians……no problems….. …sunshine and rainbows…… at no personal cost…… you’ve got to be kidding………. Who believes this crap?
The promise of socialism is so fake, so obvious, it’s like trying to sell a diet of doughnuts and beer, to ensure the body of a supermodel or the Diet Coke guy. It reminds me of Hallmark movies, where the young girl’s absent father reappears and he’s really a prince….. and sweeps away the young girl and her forlorn/bitter mother to a faraway European Castle. Yet, the Hallmark fairy tales edit out teenage pimples, all the overdue bills, mom working two jobs, many nights of tears at 2:00am, and the girl not being popular in school.
Socialism is a fairytale. Grow up.
Today, too many people are buying what slick politicians are selling. They believe in the fairytale, take the easy path, the short cut to whatever we want…. It’s even better for politicians because they control the process…. Take the money and nice lifestyle from someone else… who earned it = socialism. The socialists rationalize their behavior, “They have to pay their fair share.”, but when do YOU do your fair share of the work? What are you willing to give up?
Healthcare
With the ACA, women who are beyond child-bearing years, and women who never want children, lesbians, those who are sterile, still pay a higher healthcare premium because maternity coverage is mandated by ACA. Is it worth an extra $200/month to you? Cuz you’re paying for it. A bureaucrat made the decision and YOU have no choice.
The interest on all student loans was raised from 3-6% to 6-9% because the government makes money on student loans, about $42 billion a year…. and the earnings help to subsidize healthcare. With an average student loan of $25K, the increase of about 3% is costing YOU about $75/month extra. Is it worth it? Cuz you’re paying for it. Did you think just the rich people were paying taxes? Hahaaaa. A bureaucrat made the decision.
Yes it is noble to advocate for healthcare for the poor but let’s look at what we have to give up……. the trade-off. Yes, our system failed as those with serious illness were driven to bankruptcy because of healthcare costs but this particular problem has not yet been addressed. Yet, the ACA wrecked healthcare for the VAST majority of Americans, no choice of physician, led to part-time jobs, and spiraling premiums (mine is up 400% and I still go out of network, pay cash, cross a state line, to visit our family doctor)…. cuz the insurance companies were guaranteed a 15% profit. Gee, who wouldn’t want to be in a business with a guaranteed profit…… with no cost reduction measures as part of the deal. Who represented the American people for such bad contract? Ahhh, yes, it was the Dems, the precursor to socialized medicine.
Limited choices and more expense. Any 8th grader would reject it. Women with a student loan are paying about $275/month more = trade-off.
Banking
Why would anyone think it would be a good idea for a government to take over our banking sector. Are they kidding? The answer from the American left to the Crash of 2008 was Elizabeth Warren’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, February 21, 2011. The Obama/Holder DOJ didn’t prosecute anyone for the Crash of 2008. No one went to jail. We got the crash of 2008 because the government thought they could regulate housing and EVERYONE deserved a house. How did that work out?
Tell me, who has benefitted from the CFPB? My little bank used to spend $300K a year in compliance costs. After CFPB, they spend about $2 million/yr. It’s less money for car loans, kitchen remodels, small biz expansion…. and less employees in the bank. How was the CFPB good? We still have loan shark pay-day loan businesses and exorbitant credit card interest for those who can least afford it. Ahhhhh, that’s right, the CFPB doesn’t answer to Congress…. so we’re really not sure.
The CFPB fined banks for billions of dollars (12 billion so far) ( Link ) and is allowed to redistribute funds to “community organizations” which have a loose connection to those who were allegedly harmed. So the CFPB is really just a money train, taking money from banks…… and makes the cost of banking rise, for every American. Did you know, the CFPB has fielded 720K complaints since 2011……. which are public so anyone can make a wild claim, but the same database already existed at the FTC (which is private and adjudicated). It’s a dual effort…… yet the CFPB does employ another 12K people at government expense.
Duplicate agencies, the CFPB with no accountability to Congress, waste of taxpayer dollars…….. no, the 8th grader says, “NO!”. The 12 billion + cost of 12K workers = 13.74billion/150 million adult Americans = It cost you $91.60/year for a duplicate agency OR an amount equal to about 1/4 of the entire budget for the Dept of Education.
Energy
The idea of our government taking over the energy sector is scary. Even with Obama’s sluggish economy, the PRIVATE oil sector created fracking and a boom began, employing millions. We also recall the $6,000/gallon biofuel the Obama Administration insisted upon for the US Military, and the $7000 per car subsidy for electric cars. Billions upon billions were lost to “invest” in renewables and sustainable energy, and no socialist cared about children in the Congo mining Cobalt for 14 hours a day. Advances in nuclear energy were ignored. Coal production was all but shut down for “climate change” while the Chinese built 5 coal plants a month ….. because the bureaucrat in charge picked favorites. The Trump Admin came to office and 60K coal miners went back to work…. supplying clean coal plants….. reducing our energy bills and giving us more options for energy. We even export coal, decreasing our trade deficit. The USA is often referred to as the OPEC of coal. Who walks away from #1 status?
Those of us who are old enough to remember the OPEC embargo of the 70’s recall the humiliation of Americans standing in line, our economy brought to a standstill, because Middle Eastern Countries would not sell us oil. I was young but shocked a country as powerful as our’s could be brought to our knees. Well, under the Trump Administration, we’re now the #1 Oil and LNG producer in the world. A competent government would have addressed the problem much sooner.
Even if we were to assume Global Warming is the dire problem the DCA believes it is, we know Petroleum forms the base of thousands of products. Petroleum is also in the top three trade items of every single country on earth. It makes economic sense, and sound national security policy, to be a global leader in the petroleum industry…… unless you’re an ideologue who is a member of the DCA.
My fictional 8th grader took a look at this partial list of 6,000 items made with petroleum. The 8th grader wants to keep these items and is not willing to give up petroleum production…. even for the promise of freebies in a perfect world with sunshine and rainbows. My guess is …… the women who THINK they want socialism would reject such an ugly, smelly, dirty, socialist utopia.
Take A Look At The List of Petroleum Products
Even for shallow self-absorbed females……. Without nail polish, shampoo, makeup, lipstick, sunglasses, toothpaste, hair curlers, sweaters, dresses, perfumes, soap, purses, shoes, and deodorant…. no woman would want to live in such a world. (Link )
Nah, the women who run businesses and need caulking, diesel, floorwax, coolers, ammonia, chemicals, …….. and our lipstick…. will stick with capitalism.
With Socialism, we have no choices. The bureaucrats decide what we should do and we’re too independent now. The trade-off is too steep, the cost to high. We’ll keep our freedom. Maybe we should start walking or running to lose a few pounds and/or be happy with the way we look. Yes, we could probably figure out a way to save $5/day, and accumulate a little nest egg. And that guy around the corner, who worships the ground we walk on…… he’s willing to compromise and meet us halfway. Maybe, we should give him a chance.
Socialism wants to assure equality of all people. No one poor, but no one exceptional either. Why try? Why innovate? Why be a leader? Why defend anyone? Pretty soon…. we wouldn’t even “want” or “hope” anymore…. because everything we did want would not be allowed by bureaucrats.
This THINKING ABOUT TIGHTENING THINGS DOWN THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And what is it that we tell our VSG/ESG President Trump?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
SO – where do I begin?
Let’s try THE END this time.
I am going to be doing things to LOCK DOWN THE SITE as we go into battle here – both for DECLAS and for the 2020 election.
So – WHY am I saying this?
I believe that we are being HACKED, but it’s not simply the OLD-FASHIONED “cyber” way. I believe that much of it is SOCIAL HACKING. I believe it is all coordinated with rather brilliant social hacking at CTH as well.
Thus, I will be taking broad SOCIAL MEASURES to keep the socialists. Satanists, Soviets, Chi-spies, and other allied CYBER-TRASH out of our site.
To begin decontamination procedures, I will be encouraging THREE THINGS:
(1) Forgiveness toward any BUTTHURT we may feel toward CTH. Once you realize that a very sophisticated social hacking, which relied on common cyber-spoofing techniques as well, was used against BOTH OUR SITES, then you can LET THE FORGIVENESS FLOW.
One of the primary goals of our enemies is to get us to fight with CTH. NOPE. Not gonna happen. We have to make these enemies BURN IN THEIR ANGER that they won’t be able to accomplish what they want to do.
The other side has tried to LEVERAGE the pain and suffering of Patrick Henry Censored to harm BOTH CTH and this site. It’s what they do. Think about what Q says, and realize that THIS is exactly what he’s talking about.
(2) Giving out your email address. DON’T. It can be used to help IMPERSONATE YOU.
(3) Registration with WordPress. This relates to points ONE and TWO. We need to begin LOCKING DOWN THE SITE against the techniques that have been used for social and mixed social/cyber hacking. Because non-registration allows quite a bit of shenanigans, that is PRECISELY why many people here have been SCARED INTO NOT REGISTERING – and moreover to themselves become advocates of not registering.
See how that works? It’s a rather beautiful scam. The enemies of this site shilled people here very hard not to register with WordPress, precisely so that they could keep options for social hacks open AGAINST those people.
I will not be closing this door on “email members” immediately – but I will DEFINITELY be closing that door before the 2020 election. Probably sooner.
More information will come out as needed. Don’t worry about it right now, but do start getting used to the idea. Also remember this. I will be telling you WHY we need to do this in more detail, and trust that those details are going to made a difference in how you feel about registration.
Thanks, and talk to you more about this in a week or two.
This TWO CATCH A THIEF TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember the 5 words that President Trump and Vice President Pence love to hear:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT? TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Remember what Q said about CANKLES and BEELZEBUBBA? Our TREASONOUS former White House landlords who HELPED the Chinese military for CASH?
I was trying to think what this meant.
Well, now I know what it DOES mean. DISINFORMATION.
The only reason I figured this out was DISCERNMENT, which involved first SKEPTICISM of social media, THANKS TO FAKE NEWS, and then trust in LOCAL MEDIA, which provides REAL NEWS.
The Democrats have been playing tricks on us. They are also FLAILING and hoping we don’t figure out what’s going on.
Let’s begin with the charge of the “doctored video”:
This is actually some rather extraordinary propaganda, and people need to keep an eye on the names of these reporters, because I suspect we’ll be seeing a lot more BULLSHIT from them.
First of all, let me just say that I found it weird as hell that the left suddenly announces this doctored video and then refuses to take it down, which is their usual tactic. That just seemed very unlikely.
Why are they leaving it up? To appear “fair”? To appear non-censorious? And then they take down that anti-MAGA HAT art on Facebook? I don’t get it. Something is weird about what they’re doing right now.
To me, they’re FLAILING. Jerking us one way, and then another. CONFUSION.
But then I actually saw both the “undoctored” and “doctored” videos on OAN, and was really confused, because I found the ALLEGEDLY DOCTORED ONE more understandable and less slurred than the ALLEGEDLY UNDOCTORED ONE. Also, there seemed to be weird lighting differences that made one of them more blue than the other.
Frankly, it looked to me like nothing more than THE POWER OF SUGGESTION and a FORMAT CHANGE of the video by somebody’s plain old video software doing normal video software stuff. Speed up? Slow down? It was MICROSCOPIC IF AT ALL. Who cares? It’s almost not noticeable, and actually BACKWARDS to me.
It seemed more like PROPAGANDA than reality.
And to top it off, a PRISTINE VIDEO of the entire incident captured ON TV by our wonderful Karli Bonne – who uses the lowest of all possible technology by taking PHONE PICTURES OF HER TELEVISION – shows that frigging Nancy Pelosi appeared DRUNK or DEMENTED in the original footage itself – as aired on TV – with absolutely no possibility of dirty tricks.
Those who say Narco Nan's slurred speech and confused affect are the result of TAMPERING – you know, people like CIA-WaPo and CIA-CNN and Brian D. N. C. Stelter – can deal with Karli and Fox News live coverage. Your hastily constructed STRAW MAN defenses are NOT HOLDING, CIA! https://t.co/8XiHOmdIPq
Allow me to record both Karli’s tweets AND screen shots, since they are constantly throwing this woman off Twitter for her HILARIOUS real-time recorded TV viewing, which mercilessly mocks the Soviet Fake News.
So – the charge that Pelosi’s behavior was just due to a SLOWED VIDEO was clearly bullshit. BUT – and this is key – the whole affair left me suspicious. And that was GOOD.
Because then I saw this tweet here, in a VIGOROUS discussion of Hillary’s health…..
First THIS ONE, in which a woman appears to be assisting Hillary Clinton and gripping stuff in one hand that LOOKS like it could be an epi-pen……
Kinda like “ARE YOU OK, HILLARY?”
And then THIS ONE, in which Hillary looks like she has some kind of TERMINAL PALLOR AND EDEMA….
People HERE were thinking the broad on the LEFT was actually CHELSEA CLINTON, all fat and preggers. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. But Hillary – WOW. Not exactly a flattering pic.
Folks – this looked like an open-and-shut case of #HillaryHealth.
People online were questioning whether it was even HILLARY, and falling YET AGAIN for the infamous STUNT DOUBLE DISINFORMATION THEORY….
NOW – this all made me very suspicious. The old #HillaryHealth fight was FILLED with disinformation. At its height, Democrat shills covered up Hillary’s PILL-ROLLING TREMOR of her right index finger during Debate 1 with some theory about “secret scrolling” of hidden notes being shown to her on the podium.
Yeah – it can get that bad. One REALLY HAS TO DIG INTO THIS STUFF to find the truth.
So I blew up that second photo, and realized that the facial shape was really fairly unchanged, with just a lot of make-up on, and we were really dealing with apples and oranges. But still, she really looked a lot better in the speech photo, than she did in the parade photos.
The whole thing was starting to smell like the “power-of-suggestion disinformation” used against #HillaryHealth researchers back in the Parkinson’s days. BUT we still have to be careful.
Hillary really DID look bad in those two parade photos with the Tweet – which I suddenly suspected were DOCTORED.
I mean – COME ON – look at her! The woman looks like she has CANKLES OF THE FACE!
SO – off I go – happily – absolutely certain that this is a DOCTORED PHOTO of her – and looking for the originals.
So I start digging into search engines, and I find THIS photo:
What the heck???!!! She doesn’t look so bad here! Where did THIS picture come from?
This was a LOCAL reporter doing a story in Chappaqua. Let’s look more closely at that photo.
First of all, NO WAY is that Web Hubbell’s daughter! That is NOT Chelsea Clinton being towed along by CANKLES!
But then look at Granny Mao! She looks NOTHING like that terrible picture above!
SO – what I did next was to go looking for more pictures of Hillary from that parade, and I found a whole SLIDE-SHOW of them from this Tania Savayan gal. That slide-show was syndicated to a bunch of mainstream newspapers on the web.
I pulled out ALL the Hillary photos.
It was interesting, but try as I might, I could not find a bad image of Hillary in the slide show.
I then looked specifically back at the ORIGINAL ARTICLE in the LoHud. There, I found a VIDEO. You can see it below, scrolled to the “best” (meaning clearest) picture of Hillary.
Looking more closely:
I’m sorry – she just doesn’t look that bad in ANY of these “good” (clear) photos from the rally. Sure, a little sag, a little aging, a little “I’m going for a walk in the morning and yeah I’m not exactly looking like I just left the stylist.” But it just ain’t that bad.
Here is the ABSOLUTE WORST FRAME from that video, blown up. What I did was CATCH Hillary in the middle of speaking while walking, so that I could get the WORST POSSIBLE FACE.
I mean, I made this woman just look ILL. That’s right. “ILLARY!”
Compare that again to the “bad Hillary picture” from the tweet that started this:
To me, this picture was CHOSEN to make Hillary look BAD. It MAY be doctored, but why doctor pictures when SELECTION of bad frames from videos provides both WHATEVER YOU WANT and AUTHENTICITY AS WELL? Or maybe it’s just a bad still picture selected from a bunch of them.
The point is – NOT FLATTERING.
And we KNOW there were plenty of more flattering pictures available. No excuse to publish this one.
So who is this David Buchwald guy? Hey! He’s the guy in the picture with Cankles!
SO – if one analyzes the situation without any accounting for DECEPTION, then it just looks like AW SHUCKS he picked an unfortunate video grab and “some aide will require some discipline” or something like that. Because RETWEETS prove he “DINDU NUFFINS”.
Riiiiiiight?
BUT – if you realize that PUTTING his tweet in front of EXACTLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE means that the RIGHT PEOPLE are going to go “OMG – look at Hillary! POOR SICK HILLARY!”…….
Are you starting to see how this works?
We were SUCKERED, people. AS Q WARNED US.
That Q guy who knows ALL ABOUT TWITTER.
Are you starting to see why the incestuous relationship of Social Media and the DNC actually MATTERS?
Are you starting to see how the combination of OPAQUE ALGORITHMS and DATA WITH HIDDEN PAYLOAD and SECRET TREATIES means HIDDEN TARGETED INFLUENCE?
This METHINKS THE DEMS BE IN A WEE BIT OF TROUBLE THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
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Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
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Think about what is happening now. Think about what just happened today. POTUS has CALLED OUT THE DEMS for their SICK FAILED ILLEGAL RADICAL LEFTIST IF NOT COMMUNIST IMPEACHMENT GAME, for which they were caught red-handed. He WILL NOT MAKE A DEAL while they keep it up – and they CAN’T QUIT.
If the Democrats are really tempted by impeachment, bring it on. Since the day after the 2016 election they have been threatening this, placing their chips on the Russian-collusion fantasy and then on the phantasmagoric charade of obstruction of justice. The attorney general accurately gave the ingredients of the offense of obstruction of justice in his four-page summary of the Mueller report: a corrupt act for corrupt purposes in contemplation of a legal proceeding. The attorney general, William Barr, the then deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, and the Justice Department counsel concurred that none of the elements was present in the conduct of the president as recounted by Mueller. The dream died, except in the febrile imagination of the Democrats, who launched an unfounded attack on the attorney general’s integrity. Everyone knows that the prospects of a successful move to impeach and remove the president from office by two thirds of the Senate finding that he has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt to have committed high crimes and misdemeanors, as the Constitution requires, are less than zero.
Conrad Black, May 22, 2019
What ensues here is a BEAUTIFUL HISTORY LESSON on MODERN IMPEACHMENT. Not only does Conrad Black put WATERGATE in proper perspective – he also puts the Reagan “scandals” and Clinton impeachment in proper perspective.
So who is this guy, who was just recently PARDONED BY TRUMP? The following link will begin to answer your questions, but remember – it’s still FAKE NEWS.
Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Grant of Clemency (Full Pardon) for Lord Conrad M. Black of Crossharbour.
In 2007, prosecutors alleged that Lord Black had committed several acts of mail fraud and obstruction. The Supreme Court of the United States, however, largely disagreed and overturned almost all charges in his case. He nevertheless spent 3.5 years in prison.
An entrepreneur and scholar, Lord Black has made tremendous contributions to business, as well as to political and historical thought. Formerly the owner of the world’s then-third largest newspaper, he is also the author of several notable biographies and works of history. These include comprehensive biographies of Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Richard M. Nixon, a complete history of Canada, and an impressive essay evaluating how the world would have been different had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor.
Lord Black’s case has attracted broad support from many high-profile individuals who have vigorously vouched for his exceptional character. This impressive list includes former Secretary of State Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Sir Elton John, Rush Limbaugh, the late William F. Buckley, Jr., and many additional notable individuals. Consistent with his distinguished reputation for helping others, while in prison, Lord Black served as a tutor for 150 students, helping them achieve their educational goals. In light of these facts, Mr. Black is entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is sitting on a political powder keg. With a President trying to goad her into launching impeachment, fulfilling the textbook definition of abusing power, she faces growing pressure from her caucus to let the House vote on starting the process. On Wednesday Democrats met behind closed doors once again to discuss the situation.
FAKE NEWS CNN, SOME LEFTIST HACK
NOW – you might read that headline and first paragraph, and think that this FAKE NEWS “journalist”, Julian Zelizer, CNN Political Analyst (no relation to CNN Democrat Partisan Brian Stetler, a.k.a. Baby Beluga) is WARNING Pelosi about the dangers of attempting their little communist impeachment game against President Trump.
AND YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
In fact – UNBELIEVABLY – this CNN “political analyst” is saying that Nancy Pelosi should NOT CHICKEN OUT – that she SHOULD begin impeachment.
Whatever.
The FAKE NEWS cannot be fixed. They can only be REPLACED.
This WE ARE ON THE WAY TO JUSTICE WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Now THAT is a “404” catch and release!
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember the 5 words that President Trump and Vice President Pence love to hear:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT? TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
It’s important to remember WHEN Hillary lost her shoe:
The TIMING of the 9/11 ceremony during one of her Parkinson’s “off days” was key to making this happen. Hillary had managed to schedule, reschedule, and SKIP events very carefully to avoid giving away the game of her Parkinson’s. She appeared on good days, and disappeared on bad days. This was not possible on 9/11. KARMA.
Cernovich and I were among the people who were convinced that Hillary Clinton had Parkinson’s. One of the opinions that I followed very closely on this was Ted Noel, who watched her closely in the news for signs of Parkinson’s. Here is one of his many videos on this:
https://youtu.be/eY5CqjmqWVI
Note that Dr. Noel warns that Hillary might show these eye symptoms in the then-upcoming debates – which SHE DID NOT. It is my contention that she had MUCH practice controlling all her outward symptoms of Parkinson’s. Similarly, the MEDIA was careful to do things and arrange things in a way that covered up for her. Thus, I’m not terribly surprised that she almost completely succeeded in covering things up at that first debate.
One of the things I was most proud of, was discovering (albeit somewhat later) that she was MASKING the classic Parkinsonian “pill-rolling tremor” in the first debate. It was interesting how she did this, with her hand flattened out on the podium. The KEY to seeing this was actually her trolls and shills, who tried to sell the “Hillary analysis crowd” on various extremely cunning bits of disinformation.
One of these disinformation items was to claim that Hillary’s index finger motions on the podium in the debate were some kind of hidden “scrolling mechanism” to look through her pre-prepared answers to questions. As you can imagine, such an idea is highly discrediting if it’s WRONG, and I could tell that I was being shilled VERY HARD on Parkinson’s stuff, so I (1) knew I was on the right track, OVER THE TARGET, and (2) whatever “extreme” things the shills were selling was probably disinformation.
Here is Hillary at the FIRST debate – the debate with Lester Holt and the mysterious podium-paper-snatching man known as “The Cleaner”. There was also some guy who removed a LIGHTING element from Hillary’s podium – presumably the element for the light-box prompter.
You can see that Hillary has her right hand in the air. At many points, she laid her hand FLAT on the wooden surface to the right of her papers, and rubbed her index finger back and forth on the surface in a very subtle way. I believe she was trained to do this whenever she felt a “pill-rolling tremor” coming on.
I do not have close-ups of Hillary’s fingers on the podium, but I did at the time we were analyzing this. They were quite interesting.
Based on the heavy shilling of the idea of a hidden scrolling mechanism, as well as the OBVIOUSNESS of three things that would have supported the bogus idea of the scrolling mechanism: (1) light-box turned on, although no apparent images on it, (2) the “Cleaner”, and (3) the guy removing the lighting element (clearly real), I now suggest the following scenario.
Hillary was NOT terribly worried about the idea that she was getting fed either questions or answers. THOSE IDEAS were not significant dangers for her to lose voters or potential voters. People, frankly, didn’t care if she was fed some answers. THAT is just CHEATING. Most Dems are actually not too bothered by cheating.
Thus, “cheating on questions and answers” – either by the “Cleaner” mechanism or by the lightbox mechanism – was an acceptable “lesser scandal” to promote and NEUTRALIZE the Parkinson’s scandal.
What Hillary WAS afraid of was the idea of Parkinson’s slipping out. THAT had the potential of taking a LOT of votes from her.
THEREFORE her people constructed the RUSE to both DISTRACT and to support the idea that her finger movements, even though well masked, were actually something ELSE. The elements of the ruse were the very obvious “Cleaner” (a distraction), the lightbox being on (likely needed to help Hillary see, anyway, versus Trump, who did not turn his on), and the removal of the lighting element from the podium DURING A TIME IT WOULD BE OBVIOUS. The POINT of all this was to put together a sexy, distracting, and discrediting alternative narrative to the truth – that Hillary was simply hiding her Parkinson’s pill-rolling tremor.
Do you see what we’re up against? And the fake news was ZERO help in this regard.
Nevertheless, justice was served. The Hillary “shoe” event – also known as the “side of beef” event – was when many people realized that Hillary Clinton was NOT WELL – and that she was lying about it. The fake news did its best to cover up, but they failed.
