“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
.@TheLastRefuge2 I think the only thing AG Barr might be doing is to pre-empt your announcement tomorrow, pacify Pres Trump for a few days because he called Barr out on Bartiromo and to keep stalling stalling on the spygate coup. https://t.co/xho70RaTUs
The Last REfuge is a psy-op planted in 2011 and timed to detonate in 2020. We has powers of foresight so advanced it makes even Q people quiver in fear.
"statistically anomalous uptick" I must ask actuary what them big wordz meanz. Very smart fella below haz it all figured. https://t.co/CVQf5HZQt5
Today, our U.S. Attorney Mark Klaasen hosted AG Barr in Cheyenne, Wyoming to meet with the DOJ Wyoming team and local law enforcement. pic.twitter.com/lhUTQuUVML
This thread is meant to contain most of the fighting over Sundance’s upcoming revelations about DOJ, and whatever AG. Bill Barr seems to be doing to preempt those revelations.
We will spawn more threads as needed over the next few days.
This [Q-3]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
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Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid
OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.
Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.
I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!!
I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.
Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.
TheseTruths
I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!
"Durham" is the shiny thing to keep everyone distracted and looking in the wrong place. The real investigation has nothing Durham attached to it. You can debate the Barr strategy later on. I care not. https://t.co/vxmc9lUKqF
SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.
NOW – here is my problem.
Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.
So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.
keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
on The U Tree
I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.
Thanks!
The LancetGateEffect
Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.
This is the article that brought it to my attention:
I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.
Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….
… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….
That was me.
DP, Ginger, and others.
Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go
AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL….. [start of a long comment]
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I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…
HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.
So what say you?
Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?
THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.
We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.
For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.
I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.
In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.
If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.
There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.
Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.
Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.
If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.
So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.
Ivermectin & COVID-19
Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.
I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.
If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.
This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.
The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!
Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.
What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?
“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.
Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:
less vents
more steroids
better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
more oxygen earlier
better testing, all kinds
As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.
Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.
It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.
It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.
The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.
If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.
Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.
On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic
Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:
Dr. Harvey Risch, MD/PhD from the department of epidemiology at Yale responds to the senseless attack and attempt to discredit him for his research on hydroxychloroquine.
If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.
SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.
Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.
A match made in HELL.
Anyway – here is the deal.
We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.
don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation
In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.
By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.
Masks OFF
The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.
“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport.” -Swedish State Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, 7/28/20
This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:
Wake up! I can MEASURE my oxygen hurt by all 3 of my masks, using my pulse oximeter. It's mild, but it's persistent and long. 97 (sleepy) is not 98 (calm) is not 99 (alert), and 93 is where they take you to the hospital.
We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.
I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.
Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.
Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.
I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.
This [(10*Q) + 7]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY where Q = 0 open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.
Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:
Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government.
Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers.
The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.
But then it gets interesting…..
Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:
White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein.
White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones.
White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data.
The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein.
Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent.
As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.
Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?
But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..
Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.
ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.
This is worth a listen (in thread). I take it as a tip that there will be some predictable turbulence when indictments hit, and security has already prepared for it. Seatbelts. https://t.co/pUx0Xui5K3pic.twitter.com/0B2ZAGrCBw
Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.
Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.
Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.
The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.
Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.
Who believes Turkey has an extensive testing/tracing network that is making a difference? https://t.co/HMvMWsSekb
NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.
Not exactly easy in New York.
Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.
Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.
Dr. Steven Hatfill's clutch hit. Best take down of anti-Trump Hydroxy Hysteria media this side of @ScottAdamsSays CNN might be killing tens of thousands. https://t.co/b4ThfIaQvG
And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.
There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.
NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.
I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.
NONSENSE!
Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.
BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.
One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.
YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
HCQ Insights
One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.
I call this the “EUA EUA“.
“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”
The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.
One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.
The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.
The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
#LancetGate had a terrible price! #HCQ bans and discouragements KILL.
I think a new EUA that included both #HCQ *and* other drugs in the pipeline having antiviral actions, FOR EARLY USE (badly needed for antivirals) is the big life-saver, that would get buy-in from Big Pharma. pic.twitter.com/Dt3Fb5NXUZ
This will not only help absolve @US_FDA on the #LancetGate-effect downside of rescinding the prior EUA (by compensating quickly) – it will provide HCQ as an automatic standard to beat with new agents in compassionate horse-races EARLY. Basically moves up "right to try".
The fundamental problem we're ALL facing is what @zev_dr saw first – antivirals need to be early, but we perpetually move risks LATE in treatment (for good reasons). But I believe super-early and *LOW DOSE* may be KEY to next-gen agents AND antiviral therapies, avoiding tox.
I'm very excited about EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, with the latter now in use LATE. Opening up early treatment and letting HCQ be the punching bag old coach standard will breed champions. pic.twitter.com/MWGHYWG8eh
NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.
It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.
This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.
Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.
Systematic review of cardiac complications attributed to routine hydroxychloroquine use…
From the years 1963-2017:
– Only 50 events of cardiac toxicity (since 1963!) – Total of 12 deaths – Median patient had been taking HCQ daily for 8 YEARShttps://t.co/5hgnw6qccH
Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.
One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.
This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.
Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.
“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.
March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT
There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.
And now THIS.
Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine
What are we up against?
Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.
PUBLIC THREAD: Because this is meant for public consumption, I will refrain from the usual colorful language of our work threads, where I normally don’t give a damn. I want people in Washington to see this article with NO EXCUSES to look away.
Consider this article a terrorist device – an information land-mine – which I have placed INSIDE the Washington Monument, up near the top, from where its DEADLY SAVING RAYS will pass harmlessly through all TRUTH-TELLERS and will BURN LIARS, SCOUNDRELS, and SEDITION-ASSISTING FAKE NEWS JOURNALISTS.
It’s on, brothers and sisters. I say as I listen to the choppers outside my window, somewhat earlier than usual.
If you have not followed my initial outrage at Andy McCabe getting “no charges” for lying to the OIG, or the slow “coming to realization” over three more decreasingly outraged and increasingly savvy posts, then here you go – follow my schooling in the construction of information terror devices:
Within these posts, there is critical information from SUNDANCE over at The Conservative Treehouse. However, there is NEWER information from Sundance which is even MORE helpful to understand where I’m at right now.
I believe it is EXTREMELY USEFUL to read this Sundance post, in order to put the big picture together. Sundance and I are seeing the same reality from two different vantage points. Once you understand it all, Sundance ends with a very helpful metaphor for the current situation.
Please read it NOW, and then I will restate the metaphor for your convenience.
(Full Stop – read the Sundance piece, linked above.)
Here is the metaphor / prophecy / orders from Trump transcribed by Sundance / whatever:
The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire. General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…
[pot-stirring tweet by Devil N. Barrett – i.e., this guy is one of the arsonist FAKE firefighters]
[two Trump tweets breaking out the Zippo – i.e., justice is coming, FAKE NEWS]
President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.
The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court. The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here. With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.
Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…
Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse
SO – if you’re following all that, and not “playing stupid” like a typical lefty journalist, and not afraid to talk in a bit of “Q lingo”, then you realize that what Sundance is describing is remarkably similar to “The Plan”. But I’m starting to agree with Sundance that we should not simply “rely” on The Plan. In fact, we may find it prudent to MAKE OUR OWN PLANS – if only because INDEPENDENCE is being taught to us again.
Now – having been sent on a bit of an emotional “ride” by the Soviet Fake News, which published information about McCabe WALKING, but without stating the OBVIOUS REASON, I have chosen to extract my payback by rubbing the Pinocchio nose of the Fake News in THAT OBVIOUS REASON.
If you have been following our WORKING THREADS here, then you, too, know the obvious reason.
McCabe drops his suit against FBI and DOJ
almost at the same time, Barr announces that Durham is now a CRIMINAL investigation
later, DOJ announces no charges or further legal action against McCabe
Now, before I GO THERE, I want to first thank fellow Q Tree denizen trumpismine for a link to information which explained much of the FIRST two items in the list. I also want to thank three of the many people on this site – JasonD, michaelh, and Gail Combs – who proved very strongly that the DOJ has an irrefutable CASE against McCabe – that guidelines clearly call for charges.
So HERE is where we get into the meat of our accusation against the mainstream media.
We all know that the [recused] Sessions DOJ tried strongly to not only plug leaks, but to punish leaks, and to prevent new ones – and ultimately they did. The Rosenstein-Liu DOJ – not so much, with the James Wolfe leak going unpunished and covered up. Otherwise, a pretty tight ship.
But next to AG Barr, these previous DOJs look like SIEVES. AG Barr and Director Wray have PROVEN that they can keep a strong lid on investigations. Whatever you might think of these two, they have brought back the GOLD STANDARD of the old DOJ-FBI in terms of keeping ongoing investigations on the DOWN LOW. If you don’t respect it, you’re not paying attention.
This means, quite simply, that the reason we are not hearing leaks about “things” going on inside DOJ and FBI, is almost with complete certainty because they are running a TIGHT SHIP once again.
SO – IN THAT CONTEXT – if you combine the mysterious three items in the list above – [ 1 + 1 + 1 ] – there is no question what the answer is.
McCABE TOOK A DEAL.
And we’re not talking about a “deal” that involves getting an extra scoop of ice cream at a White House function. We’re talking about TALKING.
Let me spell this out so that even a CIA embed at the Washington Post like GUILTY SPYGATE HACK Devil N. Barrett can understand this.
Former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe is testifying against his superiors and others:
certainly James Comey
likely Loretta Lynch
probably John Brennan
certainly White House officials (remember Page/Strzok texts)
possibly Congressional aides
certainly the media contacts who understood the falsehoods being promoted
Oh, wait – wasn’t there some conspiracy theory about this called “QAnon” or something?
SHEESH!
Look, friends. It is ONE THING for us to sit here and talk amongst ourselves about all this stuff, but as far as I’m concerned, that is OVER. The FAKE NEWS trolled us with “McCabe No Charges”, when THEY KNEW THE TRUTH AND HID IT.
So now it’s time to take our ORDERS from TRUMP, as TRANSMITTED and TRANSLATED by Sundance:
President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.
Sundance
So that is what I’m doing. It is time to make these Fake News Bastards (whoops, sorry) print the truth about what is happening in SpyGate.
I mean, you wouldn’t want to drop this meme on Devil N. Barrett’s timeline.
Or this one:
Or especially this one:
Here’s to you, Ratseclisa. NOW I understand why I accidentally named you that.
W
PS – all of the above is stated CONFIDENTLY despite THIS BULLSHIT PSY-OP fed through Andrew McCarthy of the National Review to the contrary (and also laughingly at the last minute):
Yeah, right, you stupid hack footstool-bearer of Trotskyist pseudo-cons. SPARE ME. Don’t give me that complicated, hand-wringing, bu-bu-bu-bu-bu…. bullshit. Tell your idiot berg-bosses that STALINSKY and her COUP CREW still have an ice pick for them. GROW UP!
For you, Deep State Coup plotters, it’s TOO LATE. No more lies. You coup plotters are going DOWN. Your desperation is showing. Now you must LIVE YOUR FEAR OUT IN THE OPEN.
And for YOU, Media Muffins, there is NO MORE RESPECT as long as you are FAKE NEWS. Start telling the truth or GO DOWN WITH THE COUP.
WARNING: Do not post on this thread unless you are addressing the purpose of the thread. All other responses will be sent to trash. No rah-rah, no Eeyore, no praise, no prayers, no Q (OK – we need a little on this one), no “[whatever] Trust [whatever]”, no whatever. Take it back to the Open Thread.
Highly general background responses linking things to the Roths and Freemasons are not helpful – UNLESS they put some communist Democrat DOJ prosecutor with a NAME in jail. Memberships are useful. Connections are useful. THAT’S what we need.
Also discounting of the effectiveness of this process is an instaban. We don’t need that shit. Go home to mommy. But just for a day.
Are we clear? Good.
PURPOSE: This thread is my best current theory on why DOJ had to let McCabe off.
Thanks to poster [trumpismine] for the documents which tipped me off to part of the basis of the theory.
TL;DR: McCabe is SES. For some reason, we rushed his departure, potentially violating SES protocols in what was undoubtedly a calculated-downside move. This opening was then used by McCabe to threaten DOJ with discovery they did not want, about McCabe’s more serious crimes, which would be required to justify the termination. Rather than tip our hand to the black hats, we let McCabe skate.
Please note that I am not able to read all comments to me, and may miss yours. We are going to move fast now – don’t assume I read your comments unless you actually get a LIKE or a REPLY from me. If neither, I probably didn’t see it. Like I said, we’re moving to warp speed. Drop it again if I need to see it, but it better be good. -W
It’s important to go read that link – it’s short. After you understand that we basically short-changed the SES “you simply cannot get rid of these fuckers” process, you will see this paragraph regarding McCabe attorney Michael “Dead Eyes” Bromwich:
In the words of Michael R. Bromwich, then-counsel for McCabe, the timeline for McCabe’s termination “was nothing short of extraordinary,” given that the process normally takes “many months, if not longer” yet here “was completed in 23 days.” McCabe and others have suggested he was targeted for his participation in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s then-ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign. In August of this year, McCabe sued the DOJ and FBI over his firing, accusing the agencies of bowing to political pressure from President Trump and forgoing required internal processes in order to expedite his dismissal.
Note that in a PRIOR paragraph, justifying this firing in defense of the lawsuit filed by McCabe and Bromwich against DOJ and FBI would have required detailing a more significant crime:
Key findings
According to documents provided in this latest release, senior agency officials like McCabe are entitled to 30 days of advance notice prior to being terminated. The only exception appears to be where there is “reasonable cause to believe the employee has committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment can be imposed[.]” The stated reasons for terminating McCabe do not involve such a crime, making this exception inapplicable here.
Thus, we see that McCabe had leverage on improper termination. Leverage with a specific nasty payload for the secretive Q team. This means that McCabe likely got a deal not [just] for cooperating, but [also] for dropping his lawsuit.
WHICH HE DID.
Breaking: Fired FBI Andrew McCabe Suddenly Drops Wrongful Termination Case Against DOJ
This comes after it was announced Thursday that Attorney General Bill Barr announced the John Durham probe is now a criminal investigation.
So we’re already seeing the connection to Durham here. I’ve gotta say, if Durham is FAKE and a PLANNED PUNT, they’re doing a hell of a job to fool us. But like I said elsewhere, that would be the exact same ploy they pulled on us in “shallow state”. I mean, we’re talking about an entire FAKE massive initiative. ALL FAKE. Thousands of people FOOLED.
Now – here is where it gets interesting. Bromwich alleges (of course) that the timing on the McCabe firing was POLITICAL. Sundance has even more details here. In my opinion, that’s an EXCELLENT THREAT, but it’s a falsehood that both sides understand, since the POLITICS OF SUCCESS are downstream from DUTY FULFILLED, and as long as duty is fulfilled, accrued political benefits (or liabilities) are utterly justifiable. Any accusation of political motive is like accusing a pregnant woman of simply wanting to get fat.
So DUTY justifies POLITICAL OUTCOME. What duty is that? – you might ask.
The duty of a deniable military schedule. McCabe needed firing for “Q-level” reasons. Bromwich knows this, but because of the left’s positioning on “Q”, he is every bit as unable to speak of it as are Sessions, Rosenstein or Barr. So the “threat” of political motive stands unopposed, by design. Note that Cankles does this all the time – this pinning of others against their secret obligations. It seems like a specialty of the left.
SO – does this let DOJ and FBI off the hook for cutting a deal with McCabe?
Maybe – if this theory is correct. But again – it’s just a theory. I have other theories, and they are not so happy, and much stronger now. After the Obama Deception, I’m all out of waiting for the end of the movie to figure out the plot.
Yes, great actors make a great movie. But so does a smart audience.
Get your popcorn now, during intermission. I can safely predict, you’re gonna need more.
WARNING: Do not post on this thread unless you are addressing the question. All other responses will be sent to trash. No rah-rah, no Eeyore, no praise, no prayers, no Q, no “[whatever] Trust [whatever]”, no whatever. Take it back to the Open Thread.
LURK if you must. DO NOT POST.
Violators will be temp-banned. Get used to it. Bad Wolf is in the War Room. He’s gonna make Sundance look like a softie. And there is FIGHTING in the War Room. Civility rescinded. Namby Pamby better get her ass out of here. I’m gonna make her cry with her widdle bullshit. We’re here to take down Ratseclisa and all her nasty coup friends.
Now – riddle me this – how the fuck did McCabe skate?
As far as I’m concerned, we got “OJ justice” on this. I hope you see what I did there. I reminded you that there is extremely strong precedent for the most “slam dunk” (COUGH) *MURDERER* getting off when PC, communism, shit-head media (remember what they did to Mark Fuhrman?), corrupt and ineffective criminal justice, and all that shit intervenes.
There are no guarantees here that whatever got McCabe off won’t work for Comey, Brennan, and all the others. No guarantees. And remember – in the OJ case, the forces of evil were not even CONTROLLING THE INSIDE. Yeah, the “Hollywood” prosecutor’s office was highly compromised in 1000 ways, but it’s not nearly as bad as what we have here, with the wrong tribe basically in control of the reservation, and Chief Barr nominally in charge but – well, something is not right. Cigar store Injun?
NO amount of “tick tock” saves this. NO amount of “trust the plan” saves this. No amount of breathless Hannity saves this. No amount of Sara Carter’s fucking tits saves this.
Yeah, I get all the morale stuff – I’m not a fucking idiot, you know. But this is fucking war now and I don’t have time for stuff that keeps the merry band happy when we’re designing an actual battle plan. It’s GARBAGE – keep it out of my way when I’m in the War Room.
I was trying to figure out WHY this bothered me so much. WHY the moving goal posts of Q were just not working for me. THIS is why.
Very simple – I want to figure out what THE HELL happened here, construct a massive logic bomb based on that, and position it somewhere in front of everybody’s sliding goal posts. It’s time to make Q, Barr, Wray, and everybody else who is not named TRUMP live up to more rules than “somebody can get into Wolf’s WordPress account and impress him.” FUCK THAT SHIT. Ratseclisa’s FIB friends can do that, and very likely ARE doing that. I have FIB planes flying over me every week in their little planephag chaos circles. Can Q send planes? NOT IMPRESSED.
I trust TRUMP. I’m starting to demand bona fides from everybody else.
As a “dangerous conspiracy theorist”, it is now my duty to do my job, and post a rather startling conspiracy theory. However, there needs to be a bit of context here.
This post – “done” and ready to go – sat in the can on my heavily FISA-monitored WordPress account for almost a week, allowing time for people of various kinds to see it and react to it. I chose NOT to publish it immediately. In fact, I am now CHANGING THE INTRO substantially to make allowances for the effects of having let people – both GOOD and BAD – see it.
I’m not changing the important parts – just this introduction. You will see why shortly.
Sometimes, you just have to let the other side make a move as a form of confirmation.
Originally, this post was framed from the viewpoint of “HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE OUT BERNIE THIS TIME?” But NOW it seems like the forces of darkness and injustice are actually back to the same old problem they had before, and which became extremely clear to me as I researched the political context timeline of Dylann Roof…..
“HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE OUT *BOTH* TRUMP AND BERNIE THIS TIME?”
How do I know that I got their goat?
Look what dropped today. It ain’t all me, but trust me – I helped. “BASELESS.”
Yeah, right. SUCKAS!
QAnon, a baseless but sprawling pro-Trump conspiracy theory, began online in 2017. It has since attracted thousands of followers, bringing what researchers call a cult and what the FBI says is a potential domestic terror threat into the offline world.https://t.co/mJ30CWyGbK
From its start, QAnon has been bound up with "MAGA" communities online. The core belief is that the president is heroically battling entrenched evil — however outlandish and unfounded — and it can now be frequently seen at Trump campaign rallies.
The seepage of conspiracy theorizing from the digital fever swamps into life offline is one of the more unsettling developments of the Trump era, in which the president has relentlessly pushed groundless conspiracies to reshape political narratives for his benefit. pic.twitter.com/1yXCy9pkUi
Several Republican politicians at local, state, and congressional levels have signaled interest in QAnon. Matthew Lusk, running unopposed in a Republican congressional primary in Florida, openly embraces it, saying its anonymous creator is a patriot.
Researchers who track conspiracy theories say there's a potential for violence by unstable individuals who fall under QAnon's sway, particularly in the fraught political climate of the 2020 election. pic.twitter.com/wfZ8egt25I
There have already been several such QAnon-linked incidences, including one in 2018 when a man with an AR-15 style rifle and handgun in an armored truck had a standoff with police and demanded the release of a report on the government investigation of Hillary Clinton's emails.
In its intelligence bulletin identifying QAnon as a potential domestic terror threat, the FBI warned that social media was serving as an incubator for groundless theories and inspiring followers to take action. pic.twitter.com/EUgvIKWNNU
Read @mmcintire and @kevinroose's full report on how the online conspiracy theory QAnon has steadily migrated offline to Republican campaigns, colleges and even a murder case: https://t.co/dTIzVzi15O
There’s no “potential for violence”. Stop LYING, New York Times. YOU are on the side of murderers who have ABUSED the entire mechanism of government, and you will pay dearly for it, but NOT by the hands of your victims.
You will pay THIS WAY.
3849 Justice Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 9 Feb 2020 – 4:33:49 PM
Funny that I am unable to access her tweet on Twitter, but the WordPress Twitter plugin API can do it. New York Times? No problem. But not Lisa.
It’s called censorship, folks. They feed us their communist Russia! Russia! Russia! hoax bullshit for 3 years, and then they DARE to call US the “conspiracy theorists”, as justification to SQUELCH OUR VOICES.
PREPARE FOR JUSTICE, NEW YORK TIMES. We do not need your fake news. You’re GOING DOWN.
And PEACEFULLY, you PRECIOUS PRICKS.
So let’s begin. Let’s look at what they’re SO AFRAID OF.
Part 1. The Background. Targeted Killings Hidden Under Psychological Trauma Events. THE PAST.
In 2015 and 2016, I saw many dirty tricks deployed against Bernie Sanders by the Hillary Machine, both in the news and in my community (broadly speaking). There is a “deep blue Hillary zone” nearby, which I was able to observed closely, and I was quite shocked how efficiently they put out the “Bernie burns” that would flare up. Posters ripped down. Chalking washed away. Hillary’s city employees were ALL OVER IT.
However, there was ONE slick move against Bernie that VERY few people saw. And even the people who saw it, were overwhelmed and instantly defeated by the unique and powerful psychology of “traumatic death unquestionability” – something which makes psychological trauma events so delicious to the highly conspiratorial, as dependably safe ways to murder problematic people like witnesses.
I have NEVER believed that the Dylann Roof murders – the Charleston church shooting – was anything less than an act of Bolshevik murder and blood hoaxing, using controlled and guided opposition. But it goes WAY, WAY beyond mere cui bono.
The reason is that I always had the murder in the correct context – deep suspicion – due to my intense interest in the 2016 Presidential Election, and all things affecting the 2015-2016 Presidential PRIMARY PROCESS.
Sundance, over at CTH, identified the Deep State / GOPe plan to – AT BEST – elect Jeb Bush, and – AT LEAST – remove Donald Trump. This “Roadmap” proved extremely useful in predicting most of the sneaky and downright malevolent moves made *by Republicans* against CANDIDATE Donald J. Trump.
There was, however, a similar but smaller-casted bit of kabuki theater going on in the Democrat party. I watched it with great interest, as all the intellectual Bernie lovers I knew from my old career days were thrown to the wolves by the DNC. Less politically astute – many of them being “self-unaware socialists”, they had no idea how badly Bernie was getting screwed. But in the same way that I could see TRUMP getting screwed, I could also see BERNIE getting screwed.
In the Democrat “roadmap”, “excused white guy” Bernie Sanders was to be USED as the “old white guy” to keep Hillary-phobic voters from fleeing the plantation for the left end of Trumpsville. This is not a bad ploy, actually. In fact, it’s pretty ingenious. The PRICE for whites and/or males to stay utterly unaccusable within the PC-DNC, was to move just a smidgen to the left, while still keeping all their guns and their now-unassailable white skin and/or testicles.
However, Bernie was NOT supposed to win. He was supposed to tag along in the slow lane, keep Democrats voting Democrat – to lose graciously – and to send his support afterwards to HILLARY CLINTON.
The problem? Hillary Clinton was such an incredibly and intrinsically terrible candidate, that Sanders actually polled very well against her. Too well. And worse still, Bernie was designed to work well for Hillary against wishy-washy, low-energy Jeb Bush – not stake-in-the-ground, high-energy Donald Trump. A “fake center” could not be created with Bernie Sanders, who Trump even referred to as a “communist” very early in the process.
Bernie Sanders became more of a liability than an asset to Hillary Clinton. SEE SETH RICH.
Candidate Sanders was probably “shields down” to Hillary Clinton’s spying, even in 2014, thanks to her strong Deep State support, but when Bernie announced his candidacy publicly on April 30, 2015, the fight was ON. The reactions to this choice were NOT what Hillary Clinton hoped to hear.
Bernie started raking in SUPPORT and MONEY. All of the BADNESS of Hillary Clinton – the YEARS of KARMA that had built up, were sending support to the most credible alternative – BERNIE.
In the immediate aftermath of the Charleston shooting, which happened 48 days later on June 17, 2015, I was able to find online evidence – multiple sources – that black political leaders in South Carolina, including Rev. Clementa Pinckney, the most important victim of the shooting, were still holding “pro-Obama, anti-Hillary” views, and were WELCOMING THE CHOICE of Bernie Sanders. One of the quotes I read was almost taunting Hillary and the DNC with the possibility of Bernie support. These black religious leaders – who have POWERFUL influence over the votes of “the black bloc” in South Carolina – were asserting leverage on Hillary’s campaign. They were part of the FORGOTTEN AMERICANS that President Trump loves to talk about – using the ONLY leverage they thought they had – their VOTES IN THE PRIMARY.
By the way, I dare anybody to find these articles now. I’ve tried many times. As far as I can tell, it all went down a classified memory hole. I should have taken screenshots. But I wasn’t yet schooled on the utter mendacity of not just FAKE NEWS but BAD COPS in June of 2015.
This was internal Democrat politics, which can be EXTREMELY ugly.
Remember when the communist wing of the DNC, aligned behind Tom Perez as candidate for DNC chair, and against Islamist-wing candidate Keith Ellison, actually used several black and brown radicals to topple Jewish gravestones, and a young hacker in Israel to phone in hoax bomb scares to Jewish community centers?
Did you notice that they let people with Q shirts and gear into the same Trump rally where there was a REALLY WEIRD Q post just a couple of hours earlier? I think there may be a connection. I know this is a much different (and less catastrophic) interpretation than a lot of them – …
Remember – these little media-saturating hoaxes were just minor, post-election ugliness. Nobody died. 2020 was a LONG ways off, and control of the DNC was not absolutely essential to save the possibility of Hillary 2020.
In contrast, when Bernie announced in late April 2015, there was a significant chance that he could overtake Hillary’s campaign as the “Obama inheritor”. The FUNDRAISING by Bernie was beginning.
It helps to look at a TIMELINE of Bernie’s campaign – HERE:
The big gap on the left is the time between when Bernie announced (04/30/2015) and the FIRST Democratic Debate (10/13/2015).
What happened in between these times? Well, during the time prior to 06/17/2015 – the date of the Charleston shooting, Bernie Sanders was already threatening to become the “Obama successor” over Hillary Clinton. More on that below.
And – oh – funny coincidence – ONE DAY BEFORE THE SHOOTING – on 06/16/2015 – guess who announced HIS bid for the Presidency?
https://youtu.be/Ab9AnZaLL1U
Yes. It was NO ACCIDENT – IMO – that the ANNOUNCEMENT of the Trump candidacy was LOST in the WIND of Charleston. By design. You will see more proof shortly.
My read of this is that the Dylann Roof shooting – possibly coordinated with anti-Trump CIA embeds in the FBI and “elsewhere” – was designed to deal with BOTH the Sanders problem and the Trump problem.
If you are having trouble with this concept – that politically useful “wing-nuts” under FBI surveillance might be not just USED but GROOMED for political gain rather than simply stopped, please read my own experience with the way that the Comey FBI seemed to try to groom hopeful shooters and other “left-politically useful” bots, and to some extent still does.
Based on the TIMING, Dylann Roof’s murderous act was far more than needed to take out Sanders, but it was potentially “not enough” to deal with Trump – hence the close timing to Trump’s announcement of candidacy. And, on February 19, 2016, that thinking was indeed proven correct. Roof was enough to take out Sanders – but not enough to stop Trump.
Notice that Trump’s very astute failure to eliminate “Little Marco” Rubio early on, gave him the edge in South Carolina, by keeping Rubio votes from going to Cruz. Rubio polled very well in Pinckney’s district – see full details here:
That support would have gone to CRUZ, had Rubio been no longer viable.
Notice how STRONGLY Hillary defeated Bernie in South Carolina. Bernie actually did somewhat BETTER in Pinckney’s district (State Senator, 45th district, Charleston), probably because of lingering distrust of Hillary Clinton.
Now – stop for a second and re-read what I just wrote.
STATE SENATOR. Where did THAT come from? I thought this was just the killing of 9 worshipers. Sure, one was a Reverend if you read through to the end of the article – but – wow – a State Senator, too?
Clementa C. Pinckney, South Carolina State Senator, 45th District, 2001-2015. Prior to that, for 4 years, he was a State Representative.
Notice that the Fake News media AVOIDED characterizing this as being, in any way, potentially POLITICAL, or even directed toward a politician, or even directed toward a political leader. If you watched the fake news positioning of the man and the incident, Pinckney was a churchgoer victim first, a reverend second, a political activist third, a politician fourth, an elected official fifth, a former state representative sixth, and a CURRENT STATE SENATOR last.
This is how LOOK SQUIRREL works. Very subtly.
In fact, I found it remarkable that the media tried to concentrate on all victims EXCEPT Pinckney. The Fake News sure seemed to want to talk about the oldest lady, or the bravest woman victim, or the two who hugged each other, but they seemed LOATH to talk about the Reverend, or to single him out in any way.
FAKE NEWS. They truly are the enemy of the People. Even when they’re being “nice” and sympathetic.
So WHY did the media frame this as a CHURCH SHOOTING, when in reality, the most important person to die there was not just a Reverend, but a STATE SENATOR?
When the whole affair REEKS of POLITICAL ASSASSINATION – NOT MERELY HATE?
Let’s look at that in detail.
If you don’t understand how the Dylann Roof shooting worked, to secure Hillary Clinton the Democratic 2016 Presidential nomination, I will spell it out completely.
The MOTIVE is clear. If Clementa Pinckney wasn’t solidly behind Hillary, she was WOBBLY. If he was behind Bernie, she was GONE. Fundraising was already beginning – more on that later. A BERNIE win in South Carolina – right around the time that people regard Iowa and New Hampshire FLUKES as being washed out – would DEVASTATE Hillary’s chances to get back into the White House.
South Carolina was a classic bottleneck. Hillary had to go through it, and Clementa Pinckney was the GATEKEEPER. He was the QUEENMAKER.
Or the KINGMAKER.
Pinkney KNEW he had good cards. But he had no idea how much of a CHEATER he was playing against, in Hillary “Ma Cankles” Clinton. And it was worse than that. Hillary had forces behind her which had killed PRESIDENTS. He didn’t stand a chance. NONE. Wiped off the map as a HERO. The easiest way to remove him.
Stalinism – Maoism – they don’t take prisoners when DEATH serves their interests better.
So what about MEANS and OPPORTUNITY?
Yeah. Now THAT part is interesting.
Mass shootings are PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA. They are designed to HIT YOU – and hit you HARD. What you THINK later is not as important as what your GUT tells you right away. Your GUT REACTION will echo in your head for the rest of your life. Your logical thoughts may actually change. Your gut response won’t. And it will be STUCK to any later mention of the event.
The immediate message of Dylann Roof to normal people – even those who logically understand the ERROR of the thinking, is as follows:
Oooooh. Gotta do something about those guns.
Oooooh. Gotta do something about the hate.
Oooooh. It was a church. This is just wrong. No guns in church.
Oooooh. White man bad. Even the young ones. Can’t be trusted.
Oooooh. Poor black woman good. Black good. Woman good.
Psychological trauma events don’t care about your logic. That is why they work so well. They just override all that. And that is why the Cankles Left loves them so much.
And yet, psychological trauma events – especially TERRORISM – are SO USEFUL for targeted attacks at the same time, “because random”, and as I mentioned earlier, because they have a certain “unquestionability” which arises out of the psychological trauma itself.
People begins ADAPTING to the psychological trauma immediately. It’s like poured concrete. It just starts setting immediately. NOBODY wants to UNDO that – to PICK THE SCAB – to BREAK AND RESET BONE – just because there’s something wrong underneath. They just want to get back to normal in what looks like the easiest way possible.
Thus, the social psychological response to terrorism is usually stuck on the first and most obvious explanation. And THAT means that all other reasoning will adapt to it.
Bury an otherwise suspicious potentially targeted killing in a terrorist event, and “RANDOM” will simply be applied to it, no matter what.
Check THIS out – Clinton Foundation vaccine / AIDS researcher who was killed in that Kenya mall terrorist attack where the killers checked IDs. Her fiance (also killed) was creating treatment centers. I am convinced this was a targeted killing.https://t.co/2WghmF5cD0
Back to the BERNIE KILLERS. Yeah, let’s take out that old white guy’s campaign. Dig the psychology.
Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump were both OLD WHITE GUYS who support – more or less – the Second Amendment. Bernie’s support for RKBA is really QUITE abysmal, now typically getting a “D-” from the NRA. In fact, I think he may even be “going for broke” by matching the confiscation talk of his opponents. HOWEVER, among “Bernie bros”, the fact that Bernie will make clumsy, waffling defenses of the Second Amendment, is actually enough to make a difference to those on the left who own guns. Bernie is within THEIR Overton window on guns. And sure enough, Hillary repeatedly used Bernie’s limited defense of the Second Amendment to attack him.
But Bernie wasn’t the ONLY person who Hillary was attacking, early in the primary season, immediately AFTER the Dylann Roof Operation:
You need TWO URLs here – one for the original article, and one in case “they” do some cleanup here, similar to what “they” did with Clementa Pinckney’s critical comments about Hillary.
You need to read the article, but THIS MUCH is key. AND I QUOTE:
Behold, Hillary Clinton somehow blaming Dylann Roof killing nine people on the stupid crap that comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth. Via Politico:
“We have to have a candid national conversation about race and about discrimination, prejudice, hatred,” Clinton said in an interview with KNPB’s Jon Ralston. “But unfortunately the public discourse is sometimes hotter and more negative than it should be, which can, in my opinion, trigger people who are less than stable.”
“For example,” the former secretary of state added, “a recent entry into the Republican presidential campaign said some very inflammatory things about Mexicans. Everybody should stand up and say that’s not acceptable. You don’t talk like that on talk radio. You don’t talk like that on the kind of political campaigns.”
There is much more in this amazingly short article, including TWO LINKS (one and two) to Hillary Clinton’s support for a constitutional amendment to prohibit crowd-funding of political media (meaning the results of Citizens United, such as the Tea Party). Yeah, let that sink in. She wants a “First-Killer” amendment.
But let’s get back to the timeline. There is some REALLY interesting stuff here.
There is so much here, it’s easy to get overwhelmed.
For starters, you may not have internalized ANYTHING after your JAW DROPPED while reading that Hillary was in Charleston the SAME DAY that the church was hit and the Bernie holdout was assassinated. But yes, she was.
WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
If you click on this speech – which is not easy to find – it obviously has NOTHING to do with any issues which Hillary is going to be able to fire up her voters with. This is BORING. There is no way that she is going to fire up her base over jobs.
Another link, just in case you don’t believe me. Also dated 06/17/2015.
Notice that Hillary was on the NORTH side of Charleston in the AFTERNOON, with the article posted at 2:46 PM EDT, and updated at 4:47 PM EDT.
Dylann Roof’s murders were THAT NIGHT – at 9:05 to 9:11 PM EDT. He had last modified his manifesto website at 4:44 PM EDT, presumably before leaving for Charleston, saying “at the time of writing I am in a great hurry.”
Roof apparently left Columbia at 6:13 PM EDT, per the lead FBI investigator, and arrived in Charleston around 7:45 PM. He walked into the Church around 8:16 PM, and walked out at 9:06 PM (some disagreement with numbers above are noted).
It is very interesting to read the Wikipedia entry for the shooting, and these words about James Comey from that entry:
Roof had a prior police record consisting of two arrests, for trespassing and drug possession, both made in the months before the attack.[56][57] According to then FBI DirectorJames Comey, a police report detailing Roof’s admission to a narcotics offense should have prevented him from purchasing the weapon used in the shooting. An administrative error within the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICBCS) excluded Roof’s admission (though not the arrest itself) from appearing on his mandatory background check.[58][59]
I simply have to wonder if Hillary had a bad meeting with Pinckney, or if Pinckney had actually stood up a meeting with Hillary. North Charleston was part of his political stomping ground, by the way.
Several commentators noted a similarity between the massacre at Emanuel AME and the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church bombing of a politically active African-American church in Birmingham, Alabama, where the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) killed four black girls and injured fourteen others, during the civil rights movement. This attack created support for federal civil rights legislation.[21][23]
But enough about this strange coincidence, at which point Hillary no longer had to give boring speeches about jobs for young millennials and black people – speeches that she knew damn well nobody would believe anyway.
The next point in the timeline is the next day. Hillary Clinton has LITERALLY left the scene of the crime, and is now in Las Vegas.
Just listen to Hillary’s speech.
It’s even more uncomfortable to watch her “telepromptering” from a distance in this version.
Something bothers me about this, but it’s subtle, so I’m going to let others figure it out themselves, and we’ll compare notes.
Now we move forward to the NPR interview with Hillary Clinton, where she began linking Roof to Trump, also on the 18th, and the media which picked it up on the 19th and 20th.
Note that Hillary didn’t use Trump’s name in her remarks, but made it extremely obvious who she was talking about, and the media then supplied Trump’s name in many of the headlines the next day.
This is the perfect example of the “wrap-up smear” that Nancy Pelosi spoke of so fondly. Only it’s worse, because it’s very clear to me that SOMEBODY backing Hillary Clinton killed a FLOCK OF BIRDS with ONE STONE.
removed the problem of Clementa Pinckney and other black leaders playing hard-to-get
sucked all the oxygen out of the Trump “escalator ride” entrance into the race
began attaching a VIOLENCE MEME to the Trump campaign from DAY TWO
began psychologically conditioning black voters on WHITE MALES AND GUNS
made it impossible for Bernie to win the support of South Carolina’s black bloc
opened up a cultural Marxist front on “Confederate statues”
created the Charleston precursor event for Charlottesville psychological operation
Oh, and don’t forget how JIM COMEY helped on the little “background check” accident.
Yeah. THAT Jim Comey.
Once one realizes what was going on here – how blacks were actually treated in this scenario – while the Democrat old-guard then sucked up to the survivors with their “who cares for you, baby” lines, in a way that matches up beautifully with Malcolm X and what happened to HIM when he stood up to the Democrat party – it’s not all that hard to understand why Q, the Oathkeepers, Dinesh D’Souza, and others with deep psychological insight on the Hillary Left, tend to view them as closer to Nazis than Bolsheviks. Indeed, this makes great historical sense – particularly if one views NATIONAL SOCIALISM as simply a watered-down and more “patriotically acceptable” version of INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM.
But now for the grand finale. A FANTASTIC link with many images of the funeral of State Senator Clementa Pinckney, where Hillary Clinton, of course, shows up on 06/26/2015.
Here is just SOME of what Flep is seeing. This is all FLEP talking.
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More and more evidence is coming out that shows the Establishment Democrats and MSM are petrified that Bernie Sanders will be the Democrat nominee. They will claim it is because Bernie can’t beat our President. That is not the number one motivating factor. It is the fact that the Democrat Party will belong to Bernie and his crazy disciples (AOC, Talib, Ilhan etc.) going forward.
The loss of power is what scares them the most.
DNC Members Discuss Changing Rules To Stop Sanders From Getting Nomination At Convention, Report Says | The Daily Wire https://t.co/xKA3F7ekVP
Members of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) have reportedly started discussing the implementation of a plan aimed at harming Democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a socialist, in hopes of derailing his campaign.
“In conversations on the sidelines of a DNC executive committee meeting and in telephone calls and texts in recent days, about a half-dozen members have discussed the possibility of a policy reversal to ensure that so-called superdelegates can vote on the first ballot at the party’s national convention,” Politico reported. “Such a move would increase the influence of DNC members, members of Congress and other top party officials, who now must wait until the second ballot to have their say if the convention is contested.”
Failed far-left Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein responded to Politico’s report by writing on Twitter: “Desperate DNC members consider rule change to let superdelegates vote on 1st ballot to stop Sanders. If the DNC rigs another election against its voters, it’ll be asking for biggest #DemExit yet by those who want an actually democratic party. #DNCRigging”
Dave Wasserman, U.S. House editor of the non-partisan Cook Political Report, wrote: “Yeah, this is going to end well.”
Another move to try and stop Bernie from becoming the nominee occurred the other day when the DNC changed their rules to assure Bloomberg being on the debate stage in a state he won’t even be on the ballot in.
The DNC drastically shifts debate requirements, opening the door for Bloomberg to join the stage starting in mid-Februaryhttps://t.co/vusk0JBTQS
The Democratic National Committee is drastically revising its criteria to participate in primary debates after New Hampshire, doubling the polling threshold and eliminating the individual donor requirement, which could pave the way for former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to make the stage beginning in mid-February.
Candidates will need to earn at least 10 percent in four polls released from Jan. 15 to Feb. 18, or 12 percent in two polls conducted in Nevada or South Carolina, in order to participate in the Feb. 19 debate in Las Vegas. Any candidate who earns at least one delegate to the national convention in either the Iowa caucuses or New Hampshire primary will also qualify for the Nevada debate.
The new criteria eliminate the individual-donor threshold, which was used for the first eight debates, including next week’s debate in New Hampshire. Bloomberg, the self-funding billionaire, has refused to take donations from other individuals, which has thus far precluded his participation in any of the debates since he joined the race late last year.
Larry is absolutely right! The Democrats are screwed on both ends of the sword.
What they don't realize is that the "anyone other than Dinobernie" apocalypse will be equally bad when Bernie-ites stage a no-vote revolt. https://t.co/CRaMTpN6Vm
But it gets better, if you’re Bernie. Again, FLEP talking.
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I truly believe that we are in the mist of watching the Democrat Party collapse right in front of our eyes. The 2020 Democrat Primaries are exposing that fact for us. The Democrats will have two parties coming out of the 2020 election. The Establishment Democrats and the Progressive/Socialist/Communist Democrats.
The problem for the Establishment Democrats and MSM is that they represent the old guard. The Progressive Democrats represent the new guard. By having the Progressive Democrats win the nominee will guarantee TRUMPISM reigning for the next 50+ years. There is no way that either party can beat the Trump Republican Party.
Bernie Sanders guarantees not only our President getting re-elected but he will win with over 350+ electoral votes and he will win the popular vote as well. He is a pure communist. Yes 30% of Americans love him and will vote for him. 55% of Americans LOVE our President and will vote for him.
The remaining 15% is what I consider the Establishment Democrats. Many will vote for our President or will sit out the election. Our President will not only win every state that he won in 2016, he will also win Virginia, Minnesota, New Mexico and New Hampshire. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he wins Nevada, Colorado and my long shot, Oregon.
Democratic donors and party insiders are warning that large swaths of their voters could stay home — or even defect to Trump — if Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders snags the nomination.
“I’ll still put a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on my car, but a lot of people won’t,” said Jim Kessler, executive vice president for policy at Third Way, a Democratic think tank not aligned with any candidate. “They’ll say ‘I don’t like Donald Trump, but I don’t like Sanders either. We survived four years of Trump, maybe we’ll survive another four years.’ They’ll stay home, vote third party, or vote for Trump.”
With all that being said, the Establishment Democrats and MSM realize that Bernie is going to be the nominee.
It’s a tradition for The Des Moines Register to publish the final poll of the campaign season on the Sunday before the Iowa caucuses. Except this year, they refused to publish the results citing a “polling problem“.
The CNN/DMR cover story is that one pollster may have pronounced Buttigieg name incorrectly. The real reason…. Bernie has a big lead.
They even tried to float another balloon on Sunday. John POS Kerry sent out a tweet (which he deleted) before the Mullahs and the entire Iranian government could emphatically back his run.
John Kerry — one of Biden's highest-profile endorsers — overheard Sunday on phone at Des Moines hotel explaining what he would have to do to enter the presidential race amid "the possibility of Bernie Sanders taking down the Democratic Party— down whole." https://t.co/htAdgv5vaE
Former Secretary of State John Kerry — one of Joe Biden’s highest-profile endorsers — was overheard Sunday on the phone at a Des Moines hotel explaining what he would have to do to enter the presidential race amid “the possibility of Bernie Sanders taking down the Democratic Party — down whole.”
Sitting in the lobby restaurant of the Renaissance Savery hotel, Kerry was overheard by an NBC News analyst saying “maybe I’m f—ing deluding myself here” and explaining that in order to run, he’d have to step down from the board of Bank of America and give up his ability to make paid speeches. Kerry said donors like venture capitalist Doug Hickey would have to “raise a couple of million,” adding that such donors “now have the reality of Bernie.”
Biden’s top surrogate has no faith in Biden to beat Bernie? With friends like these … https://t.co/zJSlaAUnPQ
The fear is wonderful to watch! Even in the one state SleepyCreepy Joe is suppose to win, things are heading in the wrong direction for him, the Establishment Democrats and MSM.
“New South Carolina Poll is a Disaster for Joe Biden”
Joe Biden may have just received the worst news of his campaign, as a new poll shows his support in his firewall state of South Carolina collapsing along with his once-dominant support among black voters, with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Tom Steyer closing the gap.
Biden’s support in South Carolina had held steady all campaign season, and the hope was that it was strong enough to allow him to survive early defeats in Iowa and New Hampshire and pull off a big win ahead of Super Tuesday when the largest single-day haul of delegates is available. If the new Post and Courier-Change Research poll is right and his lead is evaporating, then it puts much more pressure on him to win either Iowa or New Hampshire.
While the poll shows Biden still in the lead, he’s at just 25%, with Sanders at 20% and Steyer (who has carpet-bombed the state with TV ads) at 18%. Biden once led in the poll by as high as 31 points.
Especially alarming for Biden is that he’s down to 30% support among black voters, who make up two-thirds of the South Carolina electorate and are a crucial voting bloc in the later states. Last summer, Biden captured half of black voters. Steyer is now at 24% among black voters, with Sanders at 16%.
California has 416 delegates up for grab on Super Tuesday. Biden once again is in a free fall.
Updated 2020 California Democratic Primary Polls + Spread + Average
Look at the decline of Joe Biden in California, one of the two big prizes on Super Tuesday March 3.
The other is Texas, where he's also in free fall while Bernie surges.
— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) February 2, 2020
If you want a taste of where it went from here – to the caucuses in Iowa that were SABOTAGED by some sketchy defective app designed by HILLARY ASSETS (yes – can you believe it?), then check out Flep’s NEXT round-up!
Nevada Democrat party paid Shadow $58k in August & the Iowa Democrat party paid Shadow $63,183 in two payments over Nov & Dec, suggesting app wasn't developed until just months ago.
Shadow is a spin-off from PACRONYM, a New Democrat dark money/superPAC hybrid. pic.twitter.com/4URUwr68le
How convenient for @JoeBiden that not only was the Iowa Poll showing him in fourth place spiked but also him fighting @amyklobuchar for fourth place won’t dominate coverage for the next 48 hours.
Well, that was something else. I am trusting Flep on this. Bernie is appearing to be a BIGGER problem for the DNC than he was in 2015 and 2016. But worse still (for the DNC), we are already into 2016, and there is no “Bernie-killer” in sight. This isn’t like June of 2015, when the NUKE for Bernie had already been delivered in Charleston.
Now, Q
This is the CLINCHER. This is the question to ask yourself when it’s ALL OVER.
Look at it again. REMEMBER – it started the moment that Bernie holdout Clementa Pinckney died, and Hillary flew away to Las Vegas, to speak to that Latina organization.
Trump announced, and the operation to take him down began, taking out Bernie in the same stroke.
It is very simple – and Q keeps referring to it as the D-CON, because that is what it is – a CON JOB.
How the Division / Demoralization Circus Works
to skin type A, offer sympathy which requires acceptance of ideology and victimhood status
to skin type B, offer repentance which requires acceptance of ideology and victimizer status
secretly support real cross-type victimizers of both types, to create victims of both types
stoke mutual blame and recrimination, both publicly and secretly
ideology creates division through self-consciousness and required perception of difference
So how do we fight back? By understanding what they are doing, and not allowing it to complete.
“they want you divided” – spot their division memes and refuse to play along
“endless war” – spot the scams and refuse to get sucked in
“let’s you and him fight” – hit the “referee” instead of each other
“they are keeping you down on the farm” – don’t accept “one’s place”
“assertions of privilege” – refuse to accept or perform self-criticisms
“sweet lies with trade-offs” – just walk away
“societal rewards for accepting status” – refuse to accept either
“implicit superiorities in accusations” – accept NEITHER
The most important overall rule is simply NOT TO PLAY THEIR GAMES.
PUSH BACK.
YOU are not Dylann Roof.
And even more importantly, YOU are not one of the sick people who sent Dylann Roof to kill Reverend Clementa Pinckney, so that Hillary Clinton would be President of the United States.
But you might be somebody who will help me pick up the sword of justice, so that we can bring the “killers behind the killers” TO JUSTICE.
Part 3. Stopping The Race-Igniting Killers, And The Killers Behind The Killers, Who Use Violence And Psychological Trauma To Change Our Elections And Our Country. THE FUTURE.
Most people are utterly unable to “go there” and raise suspicions that Dylann Roof – who turned out to be SO politically useful to the Clinton Machine – was somehow PUSHED to do exactly WHAT HE DID, WHEN HE DID.
Hey – I have nothing to gain or lose. There are many things I know are FACTS that others simply don’t believe. I am happy to be there. Adding some strong suspicions that others see as “conspiracy theories” bothers me not in the slightest.
However, I believe that publishing these thoughts is going to INHIBIT the Clinton Machine and their dubious and dangerous allies from trying this sort of thing again. EVERY TIME they use these “MK Killers” to pull a job, they are closer to the WHOLE SHEBANG blowing up in their faces.
This is exactly why I posted this article. SUNSHINE makes people think twice about doing things that do NOT bear scrutiny.
Right now, the Clinton-Biden-Buttigieg-CIA Cabal “wing” of the DNC is clearly trying to take out Bernie using “unethical but not illegal” means. At some point, it’s going to be clear that they need stronger and not necessary legal means, where the “normal” litmus test of Democrat ethics will be applied – the question of “will we get caught?“
If people are WATCHING for the scam, it’s much less likely they will USE THE SCAM.
So let’s WATCH FOR THE SCAM.
However, watching for the scam is not enough.
This is where I need to give some LOVE TO THE ENEMY.
Yes. If you are a follower of Christ on this principle – no matter what your religion – then you can’t just sit there and say “good, good, good” while those lovably DUMB Bernie Bros fall into nasty traps, thereby making sure that our wonderful VSG has FOUR MORE YEARS.
FOR EXAMPLE – what about all those Bernie Bros who give people the impression that VIOLENCE is OK?
BREAKING: #Expose2020 Part IV: Two More @BernieSanders Staffers Radicalism EXPOSED; ‘Gulags and Kulaks Exaggerated’; “Make Plans For Extreme Action”; “Destroy Property” and “Abolish Landlords…So we Don’t Have to Kill Them”
I mean, it’s time to be really honest. The Clinton people tried to dump the “violence” rap on the TRUMP supporters, but if anybody out there has a problem with “pushable yahoos” – well, it’s gotta be the Bernie Bolsheviks.
The Gambino Family “QAnon Hit Man”? Spare me! That was CA3 and Reagan-Hinckley cover-up, I’m very certain. There was “Staten Island” and Gambino all over that one. Very bad hoax plus discreditation operation. A lot of internal Mafia hit, too.
Nope – a QAnon rap ain’t gonna stick, because it’s gonna be very obviously BOGUS.
Bernie is the guy who’s “at risk” here.
Most of these Bernista yahoos who are being busted by Project Veritas are really just embarrassing, mouthy, simplistic dopes. They are not only a problem for the left – they are EVERYWHERE – on the right AND the left. The Alt-Right is full of similar yahoos, with the same tattoos and piercings.
Mouthy yahoos who say dopey extremist things are not – in my opinion – significantly dangerous in a stable political environment like we live in now – meaning the TRUMP administration. These people DO BECOME MUCH MORE DANGEROUS under a socialist regime, like the Soviets or the Nazis, because they WILL carry out extreme, cold-blooded acts, when the STATE OR PARTY ASKS THEM. As long as the STATE is benign, and the PARTY is forced to be benign, THEY are – more or less – benign.
Thus, it is very legitimate for Project Veritas to “expose the Bolsheviks”. But they are not the really severe threat that I want to talk about. They are a slight danger to the possibility of Bernie winning the general election, but let’s be honest – THAT is already NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, in my opinion.
No – it is the Congressional baseball shooter – James Hodgkinson – and people like Dylann Roof – who are the real danger. These are the unstable boulders that can be pushed to roll down on the innocent at the right time and place, by unscrupulous intelligence agencies and others who are in possession of advanced tools descended from CIA’s MK ULTRA toolkit.
They can provide the PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA that shifts votes by DOUBLE DIGITS.
However, another disconnected mock-up / frame-up creation like Roof is NOT going to stop either Trump OR Bernie. NOPE. It will have to be another James Hodgkinson – somebody STRONGLY linked to Bernie – THAT is what can stop Bernie.
In my opinion, Bernie can protect himself against these sorts of dirty, bloody con jobs by engaging in the same kinds of preventative measures which have helped the Trump base STAY COOL. “Base pacification” is possible, and it’s a good thing.
COLD ANGER is the way to get hot-tempered people off the highly poisonous diet of hot anger.
From cold anger, LOVE isn’t that far away.
Will the Bernie Bros listen? Who knows. But even if they don’t, WE can watch out for them, because even though they may be across the political spectrum, WE can choose to be our brothers’ keeper.
Hey – we know ALL ABOUT being PUT DOWN by the HILLARY MACHINE.
Stay VIGILANT, my brothers and sisters. On everybody’s behalf.
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The above article is very interesting because the authors (likely Pelosi aides) HIDE the mob connections STRONGLY by only talking about specifics of the scandals and leaving out MOB associations. Also, the “controversial” part left in seems to be very intentional, and includes both a sort of weird double-reverse humble-brag to both conservatives and liberals, and a lot of confusing disinformation.
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6)IG finds 17 separate problems with FISA court submissions, including FBI's overstatement of Steele's credentials. Also the failure to provide court with exculpatory evidence and issues with Steele's sources and additional info it got about Steele's credibility.
Now there is documented evidence that the FBI withheld exculpatory evidence multiple times to the FISA Court, do you still agree that those individuals should face sanctions? https://t.co/lBE9daABHF
Still troubling that massive anti-Trump probe was started on the very flimsiest of evidence. But by January 2017 *at very latest* FBI knew anti-Trump probe should have been ended. So why did it keep going? And what's more, why did leaders launch Special Counsel months later? https://t.co/NWuuDyH1Zh
Mollie has an amazing bunch of deeply perceptive tweets that Sidney Powell is retweeting. These two gals are just skunking the coup with each one of them.
Massive counterintel investigation against political campaign of opposing party was started solely on tip from foreign gov't, nothing else, IG says. W/in days, 4 campaign officials targeted, picked because they'd been to Russia or talked to Russians. Wow does this look flimsy.
And it just goes on forever. There are THOUSANDS of patriots going over the IG report, finding everything wrong with it.
THAT is the power of WE THE PEOPLE and FREE SPEECH.
One of the things you will notice in the following discussion is that the Soviet Fake News – acting just like Russia’s fake news acted in the 1970s – simply turns everything on its head. Even Horowitz is helping a bit, which is sad, but expected from an Obama appointee. Horowitz held his “Trump-limiting” fire for as long as he could, but at the last possible moment in his ability to protect the plot, he did what he could in the way of DAMAGE CONTROL.
Horowitz didn’t lie. What he did was give what I believe is UNREASONABLE benefit of the doubt to Comey and McCabe in assessing their MOTIVE. Why do I say “unreasonable”? Because it’s quite clear that the BIAS against Trump was POLITICAL IN NATURE, and that bias was ACTED UPON.
BIAS is not a crime. ACTING UPON IT AGAINST THE LAW IS.
Communists have TRAINED YOU otherwise, using the FAKE NEWS MEDIA.
The political bias against Trump may not have been PARTY politics, and it might not have been standard Conservative-versus-Liberal politics, but it was POLITICS nonetheless. It was all about the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
If you are an investigator, and you can’t see the bias in FISAgate, you’re either a PISS-POOR investigator, or you are COVERING UP for the bias of the Deep State.
It’s like saying that Ted Bundy wasn’t motivated by sexual sadism because of some technicality of when *exactly* he murdered his victims, or because he didn’t use standard whips of particular dimensions and wear appropriate lady-porn Fifty Shades of Gray sexy suits during the acts.
It’s CRAP.
WHO are you kidding, Horowitz? If this wasn’t about politics, then WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE?
I’ll tell you. It was GLOBALIST versus NATIONALIST politics. The “special hatred” for Donald Trump is that he is completely antithetical to the subtextual political worldview of globalism.
Horowitz is UNREASONABLE in not seeing it and calling it out, even though – very ironically – it MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CRIMES.
The latter is an important point. The law is the law. Bias means nothing, if we TRULY do not act on it, by OBEYING THE LAW – which is not supposed to be a mind-reader on ACTS. At the end of Obama’s tenure, I thought he was a horrid communist spy and insert, but he was also POTUS. His LIFE and his OFFICE deserved our protection with every last fiber of our being as patriotic Americans. PERIOD.
But THAT doesn’t matter. Love him or hate him, HOW WE ACT is all that matters to the LAW.
Because we are NOT in CHINA.
https://youtu.be/vspukvqxTSg
We ACT either properly or improperly IN SPITE OF ANY BIAS. This was taught when I was a CHILD. Sadly, the DEMOCRAT SCHOOLS no longer teach this.
TRUMP did not get the RESPECT that he deserved from the system. PERIOD.
I’m not the only person who sees how ridiculous this is.
But there are actually FACTUAL REASONS – not subject to debate – that tell us HOROWITZ was OFF THE MARK on this report.
If John Durham has met with Patrick Byrne, and listened to his timeline… well, the July 31st, 2016, Horowitz predicate date is way off the mark. Byrne said he was tasked by the FBI to run "political espionage" starting in 2015. pic.twitter.com/UXumhWSc2P
ANYWAY – my take on the IG Report, told in TWEETS, follows.
First of all, you really need to see how HARD the FAKE NEWS MEDIA is pulling to COVER UP.
Remember – this is COMMUNIST DEMORALIZATION.
BREAKING: FBI Dir. Chris Wray "The inspector general did not find political bias or improper motivations impacting the opening" of Russia probe, "or the decision to use certain investigative tools."@PierreTABC: "Included FISA?"
REMEMBER – Wray is just CITING FACTS here – facts about the report – but the FAKE NEWS is CHOOSING to highlight ONLY those facts.
This is EXACTLY like the SOVIET UNION, for those of us who don’t remember it.
DON’T LOOK AWAY.
I strongly suggest that you CUT YOUR CABLE if you have not done so already. You can see plenty of “don’t look away” material on the internet without PAYING to produce it.
Look at the BOLSHEVIK FILTH one last time before you CUT THE CABLE.
Check out THIS “Blue Checkist”…. a NEW YORK TIMES Shiece of Pit.
These anti-American pieces of garbage are not our friends. They hate our country – they hate us – and they HATE THE TRUTH.
One more.
The DOJ IG's report rebuts allegations of illegal spying and that political bias played a role in the probe begun ahead of the 2016 election, but finds serious faults in other areas, according to a copy of the document obtained by WaPo. https://t.co/p274MTloRe
Overall, this was pretty shocking evidence of LIES and DECEIT by the FBI and DOJ, with evidence of CIA treachery leaking in, yet compared to what the “Pizzagate” crowd wanted to happen – well, not so much of a big bust. Was John “Skippy” Podesta even NAMED in this thing? The treacherous James 8. Corney certainly was.
Gonna be blunt here, amigos. The fact that the IG report doesn't have photos of Cankles and Beelzebubba dancing around bound children in red shoes, with Bubba eating pizza and hot dogs off of her medical devices, does not concern me.
Yeah, Cankles ain’t in jail YET, but what we are seeing now is a lot of SPACE between (A) what we KNOW and which is now PROVEN BY LAW, and (B) what James Comey and his GRIFTER CLUB have been selling us via the FAKE NEWS MEDIA.
Comey was reading the same Obama tea-leaves as McCabe who knew Obama wanted "everything". The Beria-Stalin psychology of race and media-driven guilt was used with dramatic effect not only on us hix out in the stix, but even as a silent enforcer among the elite grifter class.
See how different THAT is from what the “Please Let Our Friends Off” FAKE NEWS MEDIA tried to tell us? Trump is right. The FAKE NEWS is not our friend.
So let’s take a look at what DID come out, and what is STILL coming out.
The TREACHERY of the Comey FBI – PROVEN right here.
What IG report page 341 tells you: the FBI used a defensive briefing with the Trump campaign as a tool for an investigation into its members. Unbelievable.
How bad was it? Even HOROWITZ admitted it was bad – before that final RUG SWEEP.
Adam Schiff 2/24/2018: "the FBI acted appropriately"
IG report today: "We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by" the FBI. "We believe this circumstance reflects a failure…by the managers and supervisors…including FBI senior officials"
Brad Parscale put things into perspective very nicely. The criminal Soviet Democrats JUST DON’T CARE. Because they’re CRIMINALS.
If the Democrat controlled House does not immediately investigate the FBI abuse found in the IG report it is clear evidence the Deep State has complete control of the Democrat party.
This has been an attempt to silence Trump and his supporters since the beginning!
Don’t worry – a CRIMINAL SOVIET DEMOCRAT HOUSE will never investigate CRIMINAL SOVIET DEMOCRATS. I mean – are you kidding?
This is why NIXON was offed so easily. He simply could not comprehend that the Soviets and Chinese had GOTTEN HIM. On American soil. Using TREASONOUS criminal Soviet Democrats.
There is NO WAY that an investigation going the other way – against the CIA that SET UP NIXON – would ever have been allowed. There is no way that EVIDENCE would ever be admitted.
They were FAKE NEWS then. They are FAKE NEWS now. And the CRIMINAL DEMOCRATS were with them every inch of the way.
Cut the cable. Take away their MONEY. That money you pay them every month – TAKE IT AWAY.
But even more importantly, THIS. Take away YOUR BRAIN CYCLES. Take away THEIR subliminal PROPAGANDA. Fake news works CONSTANTLY on your BRAIN to create a FALSE STATE OF REALITY which I call FAKE NORMAL.
CUT IT OUT. Put on the INTERNAL GLASSES that BLOCK FAKE NEWS to non-threatening levels.
It is going to be a FIGHT and we have to be like Trump and KEEP FIGHTING.
Buckle up, lads and lassies. THIS is the REALITY right here.
Guys–Comey, Brennan etc. HAVE to say "See, toldja, nothing to see" about the IG report.
You really expected these shits to say "I confess!"
THAT's what I mean when I keep saying some here are expecting one report to Change Everything.
I mean, seriously. These DIRTBAGS are gonna be not just proclaiming their innocence, but actually shilling for their own “MUMIA FAN CLUBS” while in PRISON. Get used to it.
Manage your expectations, and you will see that President Trump is RIGHT ON TARGET.
— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) December 9, 2019
So is it gonna be FIXED SOON? Sure looks that way.
It is worth noting while the #IGReport concludes that political bias did not influence the launch of the Trump-Russia investigation, US Atty John Durham, whose criminal investigation into the matter is more comprehensive, vehemently disagrees.https://t.co/bRIsHmGuq4
AND notice that all the #Resist SCUM is already MOUTHING OFF about Barr doing the right things.
Check out this WaPo Blue Checkist Bolshevik scum-bucket….
I agree with this guy: “I’ve never seen such an internal DOJ effort to challenge and undermine the IG's findings,” Harry Litman, a former U.S. attorney, told me Monday. “It is not what the Department of Justice does.” https://t.co/GvlGHqXEPR
Director Wray must make a public statement in support of the Bureau against Barr’s clear provocations and lies about the IG’s report and the way he attempts to impugn the professional and appropriate role the @FBI played in the investigation of the Trump campaign.
Yeah, take a hike, COMMIE. This guy is a real piece of TDS work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jiMxRKq5No
But look what’s coming….
BREAKING: Sen. Grassley of Judiciary said tonight that former FBI Director Comey is going to be in for "a rude awakening when (federal prosecutor) Durham gets done" with his own, more comprehensive — not to mention criminal –investigation of #Spygate
And things already falling apart for “Curtains” Comey and his well-constructed lies.
After college, for starters, the 6-foot-7 Comey for years claimed that he played NCAA college basketball. He did not. He is a congenital liar. And he was the head of our federal secret police. Unnerving to say the least. https://t.co/YiNEyBmmIi
