A Time for Discipline

 


Today there is a planned confrontation (street brawl?) in Portland.


Oath Keepers have made a statement.

This is a time for discipline.



 August 15, 2019

Public Notice:  Oath Keepers Will NOT be Participating in the August 17, 2019 “End Domestic Terrorism” Rally in Portland, OR

by Stewart Rhodes

I wish I didn’t have to do this, but it must be done. I must make it clear that Oath Keepers will not be participating in the “End Domestic Terrorism” rally scheduled for this Saturday, August 17, 2019, which is being organized by Joe Biggs and the Proud Boys.
I must also make it clear that Oath Keepers is NOT an organizer of this event, as has been erroneously reported by some media outlets. This event is being organized by Joe Biggs and the Proud Boys, not Oath Keepers. Oath Keepers was invited to attend, but we will not be attending.
We fully support free speech, and we fully agree that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization that uses force and the threatened use of force to intimidate, silence, and suppress the free speech of Americans.   However, we cannot participate in this event for the following reasons:
A.   We have not seen adequate steps taken by the organizers to exclude known or suspected white nationalists from attending this event.  Oath Keepers has a zero tolerance policy for white nationalism or any other ethno-nationalist ideology that discriminates along racial lines (as our bylaws make clear) and we do not, and cannot, knowingly associate with known or suspected white nationalists.
First, we consider white nationalists (along with any other ethno-nationalists) to be dangerous domestic enemies of the Constitution, every bit as deadly to our Republic as the violent communists within Antifa, because white nationalists also hold the Constitution in contempt and wish to overthrow it and replace it with their own desired totalitarian system. On that, the white nationalists and the communists are in agreement. And all of us who swore to defend the Constitution must stand against both of them as clear domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Second, we have a considerable number of active duty military and police in our membership who cannot knowingly associate with racists and we owe it to them to be diligent in avoiding participating in any event where white nationalists will not be actively,  stringently excluded.
Third, the left in this nation is desperate to paint all conservatives and, especially, all Trump supporters as “white nationalists” to the point of absurdity. Allowing any actual white nationalists into an event where attendees are encouraged to bring Trump flags as well as American flags would be a grave mistake and does no favors to either President Trump or to the broader conservative cause. Conservatives, libertarians, and Trump supporters must be diligent about making sure the events they organize exclude white nationalists who want the same thing the left wants – to paint the false impression that we agree with their racist, collectivist, anti-constitution agenda (which is exactly why CNN loves to give airtime to the white nationalist troll Richard Spencer, as he desperately tries to tie his Neo-Nazi agenda to Trump).
I want to stress that we at Oath Keepers DO NOT believe that Joe Biggs or Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, the two organizers of this event, are white nationalists. Nor do we believe that the great majority of those groups and individuals who plan on attending the event are white nationalists.   But we do not believe the organizers are taking the steps necessary to ensure that white nationalist and suspected white nationalist groups and individuals will be excluded.
A closely related problem is that the organizers have not secured a permit for exclusive use of the Waterfront Park where they will be holding the rally this Saturday in Portland.  Yes, they still have a right to free speech, but one of the advantages of securing a permit to use a public space for a particular time is that it allows you to exclude others from using that same space at that time, such as excluding known or suspected white nationalists.
We saw the problems a lack of a permit can bring when we helped to protect a free speech event in Berkeley, CA in April, 2017. That was an un-permitted event, and because the event organizers had not secured a permit for exclusive use of the MLK park, they could not exclude the white nationalists group Identity Evropa from entering the park.   Identity Evropa promptly placed themselves and their anti-Semitic, racist signs front and center, facing off with Antifa.
I instructed those under our command in the event security element that under no circumstances were they to allow Identity Evropa to enter our security inner perimeter around the audience and the stage. I was willing to go to jail to prevent Identity Evropa from actually entering the audience for the event, but we could not kick them out of the park. And, of course, the media all focused their cameras on Identity Evropa. We were able to maintain some separation between them and the event we were securing, but it did give Identity Evropa the opportunity to attempt to co-opt the event for their own agenda.
For this event in Portland, in contrast to the April 2017 event in Berkeley, Oath Keepers is not in charge of the security element and, if we attended this Saturday, we would not be able to actively exclude suspected white nationalists as we did in Berkeley. As such, we cannot attend.
B.  Some of the past rhetoric, public statements, and memes/graphics posted online by the event organizer and by planned attendees expose those who attend the August 17 rally to possible civil and criminal law liability.  
We understand the anger and frustration among patriots after watching the footage of the violent Antifa attack on Andy Ngo on June 29, 2019 and the horrific attack on two other patriots that same day. However, angry, undisciplined public statements  that can be construed as expressing an intent to come to Portland to seek out Antifa and engage them in street fights and to assault them, and memes posted online to that effect, or worse, do a disservice to anyone who wants to attend a free speech event in protest against Antifa terrorism and against the failure of Portland officials to secure the free speech rights of Americans.
Those angry statements cannot be undone, and despite the organizers and planned attendees subsequently dialing back on the rhetoric, those prior statements are already being used against them by their political opponents and by the leftist dominated media.   All of the angry videos,Twitter posts, and incriminating photos, etc by the organizer leading up to this rally have been preserved by Antifa and their supporters. Likewise for memes/graphics posted by planned attendees depicting violence against Antifa.
Further, those prior statements, videos, photos, and memes/graphics by the event organizer and other planned attendees potentially expose all attendees to possible prosecution using both an Oregon state “rioting” statute and a federal rioting statute that was used on some of the attendees of the disastrous Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally in August, 2017 (which Oath Keepers also did NOT attend). Even though the vast majority of the planned attendees for the Portland rally this Saturday have no intention of initiating unlawful violence against Antifa, the prior statements of the event organizer, expressing his intent, can potentially be used against all attendees.
I share the frustrations many patriots feel about the obvious double standard of Antifa having free rein in Portland while patriots are under the microscope. But I cannot and will not expose Oath Keepers members to possible persecution/prosecution because of undisciplined statements made by others, however understandable the anger that prompted the undisciplined statements. Therefore, I must urge all Oath Keepers members to stay clear of this event in Portland on August 17, 2019.
C.  More Than Ever, This is a Time for Discipline and Professionalism 
Because of their own actions, Antifa is currently on the ropes and is on the verge of being declared a domestic terrorist organization. Much has taken place since Joe Biggs first announced his intent to hold this rally.   First, on July 13, 2019, the self-identified Antifa terrorist Willem Van Spronsen used a rifle and Molotov cocktails to attack the ICE detention facility in Tacoma, WA.  Only by the grace of God was he not able to kill responding officers. Van Spronsen pointed his AR-15 at the officers, but it apparently malfunctioned, and he was shot and killed before he could fix that malfunction. He also failed in his attempt to ignite a 500 lb propane tank.  If he had been successful, it could have killed all the personnel and the detainees in the center. Thankfully he was an incompetent terrorist.
Since that attack, Antifa has lauded Van Spronsen as a martyr and an example to follow, and, in the graphics promoting their planned assault on the border in El Paso, Texas September 1-10, Antifa has openly threatened to kill CBP personnel.
And, of course, Antifa widely celebrated the July 12 illegal trespassing at the Aurora, CO ICE facility where protesters tore down the American flag, attempted to burn it, and in its place hoisted up the Mexican flagand also flew a defaced, upside down “blue lives matter” flag with “Abolish ICE” written on it in red.
And most recently, at 3am on August 13, 2019, shots were fired into the occupied ICE offices in San Antonio, Texas.
A maxim of warfare, expressed by Napoleon Bonaparte, is to “never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Patriots, conservatives, Trump supporters, all need to be disciplined and let Antifa continue to show their true colors.  It would be counterproductive to engage in undisciplined activities (or in a rally who’s main organizer made undisciplined statements of intent) that can be construed by the media and politicians to paint patriots as the aggressors and Antifa as the victims.
Frankly, given the prior statements of Joe Biggs that will be used against all attendees of his rally, it would be best for the patriot/conservative cause if this August 17 rally were simply canceled. Those who want to protest the way Portland coddles Antifa should start over, with a clean slate, and then do so in a much more disciplined manner.
In addition to the above noted Antifa terrorism, after the mass shootings in California, El Paso, and Ohio, we are in a decidedly “kinetic” (guns and bombs) environment and we should expect Antifa to use even more deadly force as they go full “Weather Underground” in their revolutionary communist-terrorist trajectory. Expect it.
As such, Oath Keepers will be very disciplined about what events we participate in, and we are currently instructing our members to focus on publicly supporting and directly backing up ICE and CBP personnel in a disciplined, purely defensive posture, using only clearly lawful self defense and defense of others, and to focus on our upcoming operation in El Paso, TX where we will also be assisting in securing private property (including homes) against deadly threat by Antifa.
If the event organizers do continue on with their planned event this Saturday, we sincerely hope it goes off without a hitch and is peaceful and successful. But Oath Keepers will be focusing our resources elsewhere.
For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes
Founder and National President of Oath Keepers
Credits:
Author, Stewart Rhodes at OathKeepers.org
Recommended by andyocoregon here at WQTH



Let’s P.R.A.Y.!

Whatever the outcome today, may I suggest to include this struggle in our prayers. Thy Kingdom Come. Thy Will Be Done.
Think *3

#WWG1WGA

 
 

My Dinner With Andrew

I must be in a retro mood.

This last day started off – late Wednesday night and early Thursday morning – with my little TOM PETTY rant.

Scammin’ Me

Thanks to our QTreeper realsauce who posted a great Tom Petty video, Won’t Back Down, here: LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/speech-protecting-the-red-flags/comment-page-1/#comment-230851 Suddenly I remembered one of my FAVORITE videos of all times – the one where Tom Petty understood FAKE NEWS, FAKE ENTERTAINMENT, FAKE SCIENCE and FAKE HISTORY literally DECADES before we did. Here are the original lyrics, …

Wolf, August 15, 2019

It didn’t end there. Thursday night, I thought about doing ANOTHER “audio visual” production like it, using another great song. However, I stopped myself. I knew it WASN’T ENOUGH.

Yes, it would have been powerful, but it was not going to WIN. It was not getting DEEP ENOUGH on the problem. Not deep enough to MAKE THIS MOVEMENT SUCCEED. And I believe that each of us needs to FIND WHAT IT IS that we can do to make this movement WIN and WIN BIGLY.

Maybe I’ll come back and do that musical “meme-stream” someday. But not tonight.

There is something welling up in me – a kind of urge to scream FUCK YOU at the people who have screwed up this world by TAKING what was not theirs – who used not only RIDICULE, but DECEPTION and TRICKERY to grab the steering world of this planet and drive it into a kind of ongoing TRAIN WRECK, from which, instead of accepting their own mistakes, they merely demanded MORE POWER and MORE CONTROL.

Do you know what I’m saying? What I am feeling is RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION.

This isn’t merely an intellectual argument – it’s a CULTURAL ARGUMENT – an EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT – even a SELF-CRITICAL ARGUMENT – an argument grounded in our FAILURE to engage the enemy – an enemy which mocks us from the TRASH HEAP of their own mistakes.

These people deserve FAR WORSE than what we have the RIGHT to do – which is to THROW THEIR ASSES off of their trash heap of not just mistakes, but LIES, TRICKS, and CRIMES – and FORCE THEM to help us clean it all up.

THERE. Now that I’ve GOTTEN THAT OUT – it’s time for STORK to BITCHSLAP MY ASS.

Now – I could put that in the hilarious context of the original movie, and THAT is, indeed, part of the answer.

But let’s not go there yet. Someday, perhaps, in a full post. The cultural deconstruction of Animal House over time is a great way to look at both cultural Marxism and reaction to it, as BOTH are embodied in the film. And THAT is something we need to understand. But not right now.

Tonight, I was going through replies in my notifications, and thinkthinkthink pointed out a video which is, ultimately, the whole point of this post.

This is a STILL from the video. Clicking on it won’t make it play. Nevertheless, the image is worth a closer look in zoom.

If there is NO OTHER 1-hour video that you watch this year, then I would recommend that THIS BE THE ONE.

This is possibly the SMARTEST discussion on the right since the 2016 primaries.

What you have here are two of the GREATEST intellects and culture warriors on our side not quite agreeing on things – maybe even not quite getting each other. What results is FAR, FAR BETTER than if they were just high-fiving each other in total understanding. They are trying to convince each other of two perspectives of the SAME THING, and what that paints is a STEREOSCOPIC PICTURE of a NEUTRON BOMB for WINNING THE CULTURE WAR.

What that thing is, is CORE ANDREW BREITBART. Eventually, Bannon actually brings up Breitbart, and recommends Righteous Indignation as the must-read book for this moment, and particularly for a deep understanding of cultural Marxism.

There was a film back in the day – My Dinner with Andre – that was one of those artworks you never forget. This was 1981 – three years after Animal House. The movie is just two people talking about things that have nothing to do with the setting, so you have to use your imagination to tap into the RICHNESS of what they are talking about. AND IT WORKS – in a huge way.

There is a person you never see – central to the discussion – who is like the THIRD STAR. Not exactly a new technique – both Shakespeare and Hitchcock loved it. But when the cast is this small, it has a wonderful effect. It is DEEPLY SATISFYING.

THIS video of Candace and Steve has the same effect. And what is even more wonderful, is that – along with the “stars” of this video, you get to “discover” that the je ne sais quoi they are trying to put their finger on actually IS Andrew Breitbart himself.

WE NEED ANDREW. And we need him NOW.

NOW – before I make everybody RUN AWAY in horror, thinking this video is merely some kind of “rightstream intellectual art flick bullshit“, let me confidently estimate that there are HUNDREDS of game-changing and actionable political ideas here, that will make a huge difference in winning not just 2020, but 2024 and 2028. So THIS NEEDS TO BE WATCHED. By as many people on our side as possible.

But savor it. You don’t see stuff like this every day.

It’s bizarre as hell. These two geniuses could be talking on a park bench in New York City, a dock in Florida, or a picnic table in Wyoming. The setting doesn’t matter. Yeah, the border figures into some of what they talk about, but ignore it. The TRUTH of what they’re saying – especially toward the END – is amazing.

Bon appétit!

W

Scammin' Me

Thanks to our QTreeper realsauce who posted a great Tom Petty video, Won’t Back Down, here:

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/speech-protecting-the-red-flags/comment-page-1/#comment-230851

Suddenly I remembered one of my FAVORITE videos of all times – the one where Tom Petty understood FAKE NEWS, FAKE ENTERTAINMENT, FAKE SCIENCE and FAKE HISTORY literally DECADES before we did.

Here are the original lyrics, as nearly as I can tweak them to the ad libs of the video:

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers Lyrics

“Jammin’ Me”

You got me in a corner
You got me against the wall
I got no – where to go
I got no – where to fall

Take back your insurance
Baby nothin’s guaranteed
Take back your acid rain, baby
Let your T.V. bleed

You’re jammin’ me
You’re jammin’ me
Quit jammin’ me
Hey you can keep me painted in a corner
You can look away, but it’s not over

You’re jammin’ me

Take back your angry slander
Take back your pension plan
Take back your ups and downs of
Your life in raisin-land

Take back Vanessa Redgrave
Take back Joe Piscopo
Take back Eddie Murphy
Give ’em all some place to go

You’re jamming me
You’re jamming me
Quit jammin me
Yeah you can keep me painted in a corner
You can walk away, but it’s not over

Take back your Iranian torture
And the apple in young Steve’s eye
Yeah take back your losing streak
Check your front wheel drive

You’re jammin’ me
You’re jammin’ me
Quit jammin’ me

Take back Pasadena
Take back El Salvador
Take back that country club they’re
Tryin’ to build outside my door

You’re jammin’ me
You’re jammin’ me
Quit jammin’ me
Baby you can keep me painted in a corner
You can walk away, but it’s not over

Oh you’re jammin’ me
Quit jammin’ me
You’re jammin’ me

Well, you know what?

Time for an update.

STAND BACK!


Wolf Moon And The Deplorables Lyrics

“Scammin’ Me”

(Try playing the song while you read – it really helps!)


You got us in a corner

You got us against the wall

We got no – where to go

We got no – where to fall

Take back your crap insurance

With Obama’s guarantee

Take back your global warming

‘Cause we cut our T.V.s free

You’re scammin’ me

You’re scammin’ me

Quit scammin’ me

Hey you can keep us punched in a corner

But we will walk away, and it’s not over

You’re scammin’ me

Take back your patsy killers

Take back your gun grab plan

Take back your mind control of

Your lies in razor-land

Take back your crooked Clintons

Take back your fraud named O

Take back Loretta Comey

Give ’em all some place to go

You’re scamming me

You’re scamming me

Quit scammin’ me

Yeah you can keep us punched in a corner

But we will walk away, and it’s not over

Take back your Iranian cash grab

And our Apple as Tim Cook’s spy

Yeah take back your losing wars

Based upon your lie

You’re scammin’ me

You’re scammin’ me

Quit scammin’ me

Take back your Venezuela

Take back Paul Manafort

Take back your city slackers

You’re tryin’ so hard to import

You’re scammin’ me

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) were joined by Democratic lawmakers from both the House and Senate on February 7, 2019, to introduce Green New Deal legislation.

You’re scammin’ me

Quit scammin’ me

Baby you can keep us punched in a corner

But we will walk away, and it’s not over

Oh you’re scammin’ me

Quit scammin’ me

You’re scammin’ me


Wolf Moon And The Deplorables Lyrics

“Scammin’ Me”

You got us in a corner
You got us against the wall
We got no – where to go
We got no – where to fall

Take back your crap insurance
With Obama’s guarantee
Take back your global warming
‘Cause we cut our T.V.s free

You’re scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
Hey you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over

You’re scammin’ me

Take back your patsy killers
Take back your gun grab plan
Take back your mind control of
Your lies in razor-land

Take back your crooked Clintons
Take back your fraud named O
Take back Loretta Comey
Give ’em all some place to go

You’re scamming me
You’re scamming me
Quit scammin me
Yeah you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over

Take back your Iranian cash grab
And our Apple as Tim Cook’s spy
Yeah take back your losing wars
Based upon your lie

You’re scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me

Take back your Venezuela
Take back Paul Manafort
Take back your city slackers
You’re tryin’ so hard to import

You’re scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
Baby you can keep us punched in a corner
But we will walk away, and it’s not over

Oh you’re scammin’ me
Quit scammin’ me
You’re scammin’ me

Wolf Moon, 2019

The words are yours. The music is presumably somebody else’s. Enjoy.

Speech-Protecting the Red Flags

Let me put the KILL SHOT on these “red flag laws” right up front.

Hard to read that graphic. Let’s make things just a bit more clear.

Now you MAY be saying “BUT WOLF – THAT’S NOT THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THAT’S THE *FIRST* AMENDMENT!

To which I say “EXACTLY.

Here is the explanation. It is, for lack of a better metaphor, how the Second Amendment and the First Amendment PEACEFULLY protect each other – by saying WWG1WGA.

Any “red flag law” that doesn’t EXPLICITLY PROTECT – better still EXCLUDE – all Constitutionally protected speech, beliefs, associations, and assembly, is not worth the paper that it’s written on.

The reason is that, absent explicit protections and exclusions, such laws may be interpreted in practice to deny citizens of their First Amendment freedoms – particularly SPEECH – by construing protected activities to be in conflict with other rights – specifically our SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

(This stuff used to be common knowledge before American crypto-Sovietism, by the way.)

This has often been referred to as a “chilling effect” – a sneaky form of infringement which is typically brought forth under the guise of laws utterly unrelated to speech, religion, or other First Amendment-protected activities. Enemies of First Amendment exercise will “hold other rights hostage” in a way that “chills” our claim to those First Amendment rights, lest we see the OTHER rights denied or potentially infringed. In almost ALL these cases, the parties backing such laws desire to infringe on BOTH freedoms, but will take either one, by constructing a FAILED law which puts them into apparent conflict.

The Constitution says NO – there IS no valid conflict, and if you are attempting to create one, even accidentally, then you are creating UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW.

Wolf Moon, Annoying Patriot, and Son of the American Revolution

SO BTFO, COMMUNISTS!

Republican lawmakers who think it necessary to have such “red flag” laws should TAKE NOTE before signing them. An ABSENCE of explicit Constitutional protections of SPEECH is, in my humble opinion, sufficient reason to veto ANY such legislation.

Our GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump, has personally given a demonstration of how this works, in a joking (well…. who knows…..) tweet. AND I QUOTE:

BOOM!

There you have it – the REALITY of “red flag” laws for millions of wonderful, trustworthy, but perhaps “not careful with their tongues” Americans. INCLUDING CHRIS CUOMO! Who I don’t particularly like, but whose rights to angrily argue and own a gun I will defend to the DEATH!

And what does this mean?

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1161287914208337920

The responses were uniformly BRUTAL for red flag laws.


SO – let’s look at this more closely.

Is Jack Posobiec right? Are “red flag” laws unconstitutional?

In my opinion, red flag laws CAN be constitutional. But I am not even sure if ANY of the existing ones are. And THAT is scary.

Ohio is proposing a red flag law which is designed to avoid many of the pitfalls of existing red flag laws. But even the proposed Ohio law really “needs some work”, in my opinion.

First of all, red flag laws need to respect both the SECOND and FOURTH Amendments.

Here is Dick Heller, of the famous Heller case, talking to OAN about this:

The SECOND Amendment is rather obvious. The FOURTH Amendment is more concerned with warrants, seizure of property, and probable cause – all of which are made more sketchy in red flag laws, when a JUDGE has not actually reviewed the evidence with opposing counsel present. THINK FISA COURT. Gun SEIZURE without the ability to challenge it IMMEDIATELY or better still BEFOREHAND is an idea that does not sit well with this here critter.

Now WOLF MOON – who thinks SCOTUS got the “gay marriage” thing all wrong by not using the FIRST AMENDMENT to protect both gay marriage AND polygamy, is often in the habit of picking DIFFERENT Amendments to defend freedoms. This time is NO DIFFERENT.

Yes, I agree with the Second and the Fourth, but I believe that the SIXTH and the FIRST are also very important here. We’ve talked about the FIRST – what about the SIXTH?

Some people might be A-OK with the idea of just giving up their guns, not being arrested, and arguing about it all later, but NOT THIS HERE WOLF.

“I WANT AN ARRESS!”

In fact. to be completely clear, I want an arrest, and a hearing with MY LAWYER and a JUDGE, and I want it BEFORE my guns are taken. This gives me my MAXIMUM rights under BOTH the Fourth and the Sixth Amendments.

Trust me – THIS OPTION is the most Constitutional of all. I will have WAIVED NO RIGHTS in picking this option.

SO – let me summarize. In my opinion, a potentially Constitutional red flag law must:

  • not take away my stringently guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights without due cause
  • respect the due processes of the 4th Amendment in a HUGE and optimal way
  • explicitly guarantee my FULL 1st Amendment rights, NEVER using protected speech, beliefs, or activities in any fashion to take away my 2nd Amendment rights
  • better still, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE all 1st Amendment protected things, including speech, writings, religion, beliefs, assembly, associations, and memberships
  • allow arrest without seizure and a prompt hearing with legal representation, for MAXIMUM 4th and 6th Amendment rights
  • include strong deterrents for abuse in BOTH criminal AND civil law

Are you starting to see how much difference current red flag laws have from this ideal, with the ideal probably passing review by SCOTUS, and current laws actually being somewhat doubtful?

I’m kinda thinking Jack Posobiec is right.

NOW – let’s look at an example. This will demonstrate both the Constitutional requirements AND how SAFE a properly constructed “red flag” law could actually be – if enforced HONESTLY by HONEST law enforcement, including an HONEST FBI (cough, cough, COUGH, COUGH).


I have a person who believes in a CRAZY RELIGION. The crazy religion says that in order to go to heaven, one has to defend the religion violently against all non-believers, cutting off their heads. This person goes online and AGREES WITH ALL THIS, repeats it, and argues vociferously and ANGRILY for it, because he is a MUSLIM.

But in real life, he’s a nice guy, and has never even struck anybody.

Sorry – according to WOLF’S version of a CONSTITUTIONAL red flag law, this guy cannot even be “red-flagged”, and if anybody tries it, Peaceful Angry Muslim has grounds to SUE.

Like it or not, what YOU consider “crazy beliefs” are PROTECTED by the First Amendment.

Even VIOLENT BELIEFS are protected by the First Amendment.

EVEN HATE SPEECH and ANGRY SPEECH are protected by the First Amendment.

Even HATE GROUP ASSOCIATIONS and MEMBERSHIPS are protected by the First Amendment.

EVEN CRAZY SPEECH AND BELIEFS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

Violent actions are NOT protected.

So Violent-Talking Angry Muslim who never hurts anybody gets his gun.


Are we done yet? Can we still SAFELY have “red flag” laws with all these Constitutional protections and restraints?

Sadly, the answer is NO.

No, because the HOLDER/MUELLER/LYNCH/COMEY FBI – still politicized as hell, is DESPERATELY pushing for those unconstitutional, Nazi-style laws of the LEFT…..

Here is the article. I URGE YOU TO READ IT – especially between the lines. You will see how this is 99% propaganda of the moment. Digging up old posts to push for NAZI gun laws.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-arrest-ohio-teen-online-threats-find-25-firearms-10-n1042036

They took this kid’s PARENTS’ GUNS to spice up the numbers, took his posts to paint him as a danger, and DESPERATELY tried to create a SECOND PUNCH after DUBIOUS DAYTON.

Only – well – it’s kind of a FAIL.

This is exactly the political stuff that the now-ruined CLINTON-OBAMA FBI pulled on President Trump. So do you know what I think now?

I think there is excellent reason to believe that the HOLDER FBI has been pulling ALL of these sketchy gun-ban propaganda mass shootings. The only difference here is that they’re running low on “MK specials” who can be manipulated into pulling off their shit. So they’re resorting to backing up their DAYTON SATAN mass shooter with a KID who – wonder of wonders – lives in the same state.

SAD, SAD, SAD.

This is why red flag laws are communist bullshit. They are not only of sketchy probable FBI / Deep State origin and definite FBI propaganda backing – they are simply TOO ABUSABLE.

Sorry – even if I saw a red flag law that EXCEEDED my recommendations here, I tend to believe that it would STILL BE ABUSED by political elements in the FBI.

Convince me that I’m wrong.

W

Is Joe Biden Accidentally Telling The Truth?

Joe Biden just claimed that he met the “Parkland kids” as VP.

From Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-10/biden-says-he-was-vice-president-during-the-parkland-shooting

Biden told reporters in Iowa on Saturday that “those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president.” But when they visited Capitol Hill to talk with members of Congress, lawmakers were “basically cowering, not wanting to see them. They did not want to face it on camera.”

Twitter then went nuts about it!

Everybody thinks that Joe Biden’s senility is making him FORGET that Parkland was in 2018, and he could not have met the “Parkland kids” while in office.

Well, this brought back some memories. Remember how David Hogg quickly showed up in WASHINGTON after Parkland, in 2018? Barely over a MONTH LATER, this guy is meeting with Propaganda Minister Valerie Jarrett before their little march and rally.

In the annoyance of that meeting, something else showed up. A few people were saying on Twitter that Hogg Boy had actually been to the White House BEFORE PARKLAND.

I saved the meme.

Is this the same David Hogg? I don’t know.

Is this a valid meme, and not a Photoshop? I don’t know.

If true, did he have some actual excuse to be at the White House? Probably.

And I wasn’t the only person thinking this.

I had tried DESPERATELY to get this meme to stick on Twitter, but it was a losing battle. You know how Twitter is. They just do whatever it takes to help the left. I was actually shadowbanned at the time, if I remember correctly, but you have to understand that they TESTED shadowbanning on me BEFORE it went big, so I may have not even been calling it shadowbanning back then.

Funny – searching on DuckDuckGo now, I even found my old tweets!

Barely any spread back then….

https://ibloga.blogspot.com/2018/03/david-hogg-met-with-valerie-jarrett-at.html

But remember what WAS big and COVERED UP the “David Hogg / Valerie Jarrett” weirdness?

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/05/29/when-roseanne-barr-went-after-david-hogg/

Roseanne. Yeah. THAT was the big Fake News “conspiracy”.

But yeah – the few of us who knew about this possible 2015 Hogg visit could not get the word out.

Until now, I always wondered WHY this kid would have been there, if he was in fact there.

Maybe Sleepy Joe is actually telling the truth.

Think about it. This kid is going to go through a LOT of “questioning” of his role, and if he lied, or had advanced knowledge, or even if he DIDN’T have advanced knowledge, but #Parkland was still being ORCHESTRATED above his pay grade, then the kid is going to need INCENTIVE to “stay on message” and not GET COLD FEET on the narrative, when the whole sketchy thing starts to look problematic.

Nothing like a WHITE HOUSE VISIT to provide that incentive, and make sure that he stays on message.

Here is what Biden’s “handlers” are saying:

An official with the Biden campaign said the former vice president was thinking of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, when he misspoke. That attack, in which 20 children between six and seven years old were killed along with six staff members, was in December 2012.

Funny that there was no “traveling kids propaganda show” with Sandy Hook. That was the PARENTS. SOME of whom sure seemed more like ATTACHED SPOKESPEOPLE than actual grieving parents, who sat in the background crying.

Are you all starting to see how the STALINIST BLOOD THEATER works?

It’s not real. It’s not fake. IT’S BOTH.

“AND” LOGIC.

There was something else that was funny about David Hogg showing up early. There was ANOTHER incident like it.

He was also said to have been at CNN in Florida (forgot where) in December of 2017, before the #Parkland shooting. It was a personal visit of some kind. There was some “educational” reason. But interesting, isn’t it?

Sure seems like they PREPARED HIM. Perhaps not with his knowledge, but who knows?

Sketchy. The whole thing is sketchy, and smacks of the sick marriage of government and media that I call “governmedia“.

Dad is retired FBI, or at least they said he was.

Mom is some kind of CNN journalist, or at least they said she was.

It’s all sketchy.

And now just add Sketchy Joe Biden.

W

SKETCHY.

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Well, it’s really quite the hot August and there are a lot of chores to be done around our place. To be honest, the number of really excellent threads inspires me. To not be very wordy. To allow for some strong conversations here…

Let Trump’s Base Speak [on gun control]…


Not to mention the conversations here…

Top 10 Reasons Red Flag Laws Are Bad For America



We are not alone in the fight. We have one another. We have the patriots. We have our Lion PDJT. And we have One greater than every enemy around us.


We have examples of how this works.


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Top 10 Reasons "Red Flag" Laws Are Bad for America

If you’re not familiar with “red flag” laws, then you had best get there quickly. This new attack on the Second Amendment is actually WAY WORSE than any previous one, and constitutes what may be the most cunning attack on the CORE values of America EVER. The more I have learned about these laws, and analyzed them beyond that, the more alarmed I have become.

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FYI in Australia we have no right to firearms, need licenses, gun safes bolted to the floor and wall, ammo stored in seperate compartments, regular check-ups by state agencies etc and “red flag laws” have always been a thing here.

A colleague of mine had his firearms confiscated by the state after attending a rally against immigration policy. He took the state to court and after several months won his case and was able to recover his firearms, only to have the state then cancel his firearms license on a separate technicality, related to his “unsuitable character”.

Another colleague who was a regular attendee at political rallies has had his property raided by police at least three times in the past eighteen months, police claim to be “searching for illegal firearms”. They never find any and have no reason to believe they will, officers carrying out the raids have verbally apologised to him after each search, informing him that they’re just following orders.

Another man I know was gun pointed inside his own home by police after getting involved in a brief fist-fight with Antifa, after trying to attend the Milo event in Melbourne’s North. His wife and children watched their father cuffed at gun point inside his own house, before being taken to the police station to be questioned, then charged with “affray” –But the charge was later dropped.

This is what “red-flag laws” will get you in America. Regardless of the noble excuses the state and its pawns will make, this is how these laws are actually used in practice.

https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/102580145193866343

And then it got WORSE.

At first, I was only gathering and looking at OTHER PEOPLE’S concerns. But then I started thinking about things on my own. I started putting FACTS together. I started asking what the EFFECTS of red flag laws – already known in Australia – would be on America.

I suddenly realized what is going on.

El Paso and Dayton are not merely about this election. They are about REVERSING THE TRUMP PHENOMENON for good. They are about UNDOING the “Q” movement. They are about restoring the FAKE NEWS. They are about SAVING GLOBALISM and DESTROYING AMERICANISM. And AMERICA.

And yet, it almost seems like we’re sleepwalking right into these damn things.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1159608627818373121

So here you go. THIS is what these SICK laws are actually all about.


10. Red flag laws make SPEECH a RISK.

This was a profound realization – that RED FLAG LAWS CHILL FREE SPEECH FOR GUN OWNERS. Almost all of whom support TRUMP, by the way. Real “coincidence” there.

Gun owners CANNOT afford to “take chances” and “say the wrong thing”.

Think about what I just said. Think how ORWELLIAN that is.

What this means, then, is that Red Flag laws are in fact a profound attack on the FIRST Amendment, disguised as an attack on the SECOND Amendment.

They create an ARTIFICIAL CONTRADICTION between the FIRST and SECOND Amendments.

They conflate speech and violence on LEFTIST IDEOLOGICAL TERMS – using leftist minds as judges – just like Vysotsky’s Soviet ANTIFA does. Just like ANTIFA was DESIGNED to do.

ANTIFA, filled with boys who call themselves girls, and girls who call themselves boys, who says speech is violence, and violence is speech.

This is sneaky as hell. Frankly, I cannot imagine that even a cunning POS like Cryin’ Chuck, or a shifty old witch like CHI-FI, could think this stuff up.

Let me put it this way. If it wan’t CHINA that came up with red flag, it was probably ALIENS.

Pencil-necks. You know what I’m saying. THESE GUYS.

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9. Red flag laws turn neighbor against neighbor.

Again, this is incredibly insidious. Of course, COMMUNISTS and NAZIS love to DIVIDE people, but Americans? HOLY MOLY. I want to get along with my liberal neighbors. All this is going to do is generate suspicions and recriminations.

Yes, the COMMUNISTS who have taken over the Democrat party probably want MORE DIVISION, but that is the OPPOSITE of what Trump wants.

So why should we do it? As TRUMP supporters, we don’t WANT more division and suspicion.


8. Anonymous reporting makes political abuse a certainty.

Being able to CONFRONT ONE’S ACCUSER is a CORNERSTONE of our Constitutional rights. This is the SIXTH Amendment. This is the heart of DUE PROCESS.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Sixth Amendment

This ability to confront accusers, before FINAL ACTION is taken, serves to LIMIT the power of anonymous accusations or suspicions. People cannot “get what they want” by an accusation without DEFENDING IT FIRST in a courtroom.

At least, that was the way it was SUPPOSED to work.

SIDEBAR: Note that there is an opposite problem, when the media and FBI only work for one party, in that anonymous PUBLIC accusations are the only recourse – WHISTLE-BLOWING, basically.

Yes, we have something called “anonymous tips”. But in that case, police are required to investigate and THEN decide based upon their OWN investigation if there is REASONABLE CAUSE to take action. With “red flag” laws, police are compelled to act BEFORE there is even proof of a crime. Unproven accusations are usable to CONFISCATE ARMS – the FINAL ACTION of the process. THIS IS BACKWARDS LOGIC.

This is COMMUNIST and POLITICAL.

Once again, Communists are up to their FAVORITE TRICK – the politicization of processes. Just like the Communists now running the Democrat Party politicized the DOJ and FBI, now they want to politicize local policing. They did this with their “Promise Program” that destroyed due process in Parkland, and now they want to “go big” with destruction of due process, by taking the concept nationally, using “red flag”.

There is excellent reason to believe that POLITICAL OPERATIVES will use red flag laws to harass their enemies – meaning US. We have already seen incidents of this – the SWATTING of innocent people – in states and nations that have these laws. Australia is particularly bad.

I actually have personal experience with this. I had forgotten all about it, until today.

During the 2016 Trump campaign, I was falsely accused of illegal gun carry in a felony zone by anonymous Trump opponents. This was something of a mild “swatting”, and I was very fortunate, because the police didn’t believe the complaint (which I then proved was a lie). Since then, there have been TWO entrapment attempts on me, quite possibly orchestrated by federal agents of some kind.

Political harassment using law enforcement is REAL and very dangerous.

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SO – do I personally believe that “red flag” laws will be abused? ABSOLUTELY. And I predict with CERTAINTY that they will be abused against ME, if passed in my state, or nationally.

I repeat – 100% certain that they will be used against me, because of this blog.


7. Solving rifle murders before illegal alien murders is illogical.

Just look at this graph.

This shows the power of the FAKE NEWS to distort the world in favor of DEMOCRAT GOALS.

The YUGE bar on the left is murders by illegal aliens.

The thin sliver on the right is murders by rifles. ALL of them.

Red flag laws will only solve a FRACTION of the deaths by rifles, on the right.

But now let’s consider theoretical “green flag” laws, which would treat illegal aliens like gun owners. We would deport the illegal aliens, based on anonymous tips, without THEIR due process rights. They would then be vetted like gun owners, and – if “safe”, they would be let back into the United States. Even as illegals, but safe ones, we would let them back in. ALL the safe ones. Who knows – maybe MOST of them would come back in. But no matter how many, let’s presume that we only let the safe ones back in. The murderers DON’T get back in.

This theoretically solves ALL of the murders on the left.

ALL OF THEM.

So why aren’t we pursuing GREEN FLAG LAWS FIRST?

Maybe because Democrat Communists don’t WANT us to solve the bigger problem. Maybe because THEIR biggest problem is actually TRUMP VOTERS – and not murders using rifles OR murders by illegals.


6. Red flag laws deprive us of the rights we are due upon arrest.

This is subtle, but it is YUGE. I mean it – this is a BIGGIE.

This is why, if there is ever a national “red flag” law, I believe that it MUST have a “voluntary arrest option“, that GIVES ME MY FULL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS *BEFORE* TAKING MY GUNS.

In fact, the ONLY red flag law that I believe will ultimately pass muster with SCOTUS, is one that allows the accused the option to say “You can detain ME, but you cannot take my guns. Not until I have seen a judge with my lawyer present.” At that point, the police enter the person into NORMAL processing, which brings the accused before a judge in a timely manner, and ALL NORMAL RIGHTS ARE GRANTED. This path is almost guaranteed to be fully Constitutional. And the DEMOCRATS are undoubtedly going to hate it, because it will turn the tables on these damnable laws, ending their abuse SWIFTLY in a flurry of expensive lawsuits against both accusers and the state.

Once your guns are taken, they are lost in the system. Once your guns are taken, the communists have control. Once you LET your guns be taken, you have WAIVED YOUR RIGHTS. We have to make these laws ACKNOWLEDGE that the SEIZURE OF ARMS is unconstitutional, but that the accused can ONLY FREELY WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS to let it happen.

OR NOT.

And if we DON’T waive our rights, then we must be granted ALL THE RIGHTS TO WHICH WE ARE ENTITLED. Otherwise known as DUE PROCESS.

Are you with me?

What I am doing is PLAYING ALONG WITH RED FLAG TO SHOVE THE POISON PILL OF DUE PROCESS DOWN ITS ERIC HOLDER CHINA DRAGON THROAT.

When we walk away with a traffic ticket, instead of being arrested, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. When we pay our ticket by phone or on the internet, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. And when we allow unconstitutional confiscation as a CONVENIENCE to all parties, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. Everybody needs to recognize this.

Arrest in America is NOTHING LIKE arrest in China. Arrest gives us STANDING.

“I want an arress!” – speaking of our OWN arrest – may be the single most important way to STOP DEAD the communist goals of red flag laws.

What I am saying is that we need to view this BACKWARDS from the unconstitutional reasoning of the communists. We need to add an ARREST OPTION, so that red flag laws – if these horrifying things ever pass – are just as Constitutional as a traffic ticket. We need to view the immediate collection of arms without arrest as WAIVING ONE’S RIGHTS TO BOTH KEEPING THE ARMS AND ASSUMING THE RIGHTS OF THE ARRESTED.

And beyond this, THE RIGHT OF WAIVER IS THE GREATEST RIGHT OF ALL.

The right to CHOOSE to waive or not waive our rights is the ULTIMATE RIGHT. We cannot give this up, and yet most red flag laws STEAL THIS FROM US, by giving us NO OPTION to be peacefully arrested IN LIEU OF taking our guns.

The rights of the arrested – and particularly the FALSELY ARRESTED – are a GIANT HAMMER with which we can batter both RED FLAG and OUR ACCUSERS.

We must NEVER waive our rights to KEEP OUR GUNS, nor all the other rights which we are guaranteed by the Constitution.

EVER. Others may, but not this WOLF. “I WANT AN ARRESS!’

[NOTE: What I am really talking about is being “detained”, but same diff. Buckle up – it will feel every bit like an arrest. But if it’s a bad rap, you will be out QUICKLY and WITH YOUR GUNS.]


5. Red flag laws corrupt the role of the police.

This is very typical of communists. In the same way that Communists LOVE to change the ROLES and POWERS of the primary branches of the FEDERAL government, so too they love to change the roles and powers of STATE and LOCAL government.

In PORTLAND, they make the police STAND DOWN to “protect” the POLICE and not the PEOPLE.

In LOS ANGELES, they make the health department STAND DOWN to “protect” the “rights” of the homeless and not their health.

And in sanctuary cities around the nation, they make EVERYBODY stand down to protect non-citizen criminals, and not law-abiding citizens.

But conversely, communists may make police STAND UP in roles that are not actually theirs.

What communists are doing here, is making police act as “judge, jury, and executioner”, by confiscating arms before there is any proof to a DUE PROCESS that there is justification for doing so.

This is a corruption of the role of the police. This is JUST LIKE the way that communists under Obama corrupted the military and NASA, abusing their purposes instead of simply closing them down, which would be too obvious.

Worse still, this corruption leads to the NEXT problem with “red flag” laws.


4. Red flag drives a wedge between police and gun owners.

Red flag laws will not only drive a wedge between citizens and police – THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

Why? Because BOTH law enforcement AND gun owners support Trump. Because law enforcement AND gun owners typically RESPECT each other.

Red flag laws are designed to WEAKEN the bonds of respect between law enforcement and gun owners.

Red flag laws are designed to cause DIVISION between Trump supporters.

Sneaky, isn’t it?


3. Red flag laws drive a wedge between police and veterans.

Veterans will be particularly hard-hit by accusations of “unworthiness” due to the Democrat “false offering” of PTSD. Communists in the Democrat Party offered and promoted PTSD self-categorization to veterans PRECISELY so that they could eventually have their guns taken away. It was a long-term, patient plan, but it worked like crazy, and it is coming to fruition now.

I’m not saying PTSD isn’t real. Trust me. I know it’s real. But HOW that reality is integrated into society is what we are talking about. The PTSD category can be ABUSED.

MUCH propaganda has been deployed here. Watching it has been very educational.

The fact is, political leveraging of PTSD by gun-grabbing communists will create suspicions between veterans and police. Obama and Eric Holder could not be happier about this result.

And this leads to my next reason.


2. Red flag drives a wedge between doctors and patients.

Patients are already NOT being honest with their doctors about their medical status and gun ownership because of Obamacare and its sneaky socialist spying and judging. But you haven’t seen anything yet.

Under red flag laws, doctors will basically become “the enemy”. They, and their nurses and assistants, will be deprived of any information that could possibly result in a red flag complaint – once people realize that their information is not safe.

Trust me – HIPAA is BULLSHIT that is completely orthogonal to what Deep State needs to target patriots. Deep State can work around it in a heartbeat. How do I know this?

It’s DROP TIME.

I caught my doctor being used in a test run of a deep state scam against gun owners. I believe that my doctor was INNOCENT in the process – I believe they were deceived and USED. But I had some WARNING on what would happen, and was completely ready for the various steps of the process. It all happened like clockwork, exactly as predicted. It was a very beautiful scam, and will work against almost any patriot.

The key step is something that is outside of the “fake science” we are allowed to know, but that I know because of my unique background and some basic theoretical reasoning. It’s nothing “woo-woo” – it’s just been suppressed by Fake News. It’s horrifyingly real, but we were allowed to be “Eloi” for the “Morlocks”.

And the WORST PART is that this scam will sync right up with red flag laws, as I expect they are supposed to work, if we allow them to pass.

I’m not ready to go public with the details, but – well – let’s just leave it at that. I have hinted about it before, and the White Hats “have it all”. Maybe somebody else will drop the full bomb. That might cause a wee bit of scrambling, so I leave that choice to higher powers.

Fun times.

And now, the most insidious of all.


1. Red flag is designed to push Trump’s voters off social media.

This is perhaps the most profound realization I’ve had so far.

This goes straight to interfering in the 2020 election. And every election after that.

It’s bad enough that free speech is going to be stifled in real life by red flag laws. But social media? Our ONE WAY of working around the Fake News? Gun owners will FLEE.

They know this. Our enemies know this. Trump’s enemies know this.

“CHYYYNNA” knows this. They know this will kill Trump’s support online.

Which brings me to the last, EXTRA, and final reason red flag laws are a bad idea.


0. Red flag is a key part of China’s conquest of the Pacific.

By neutralizing America in the same way that they neutralized New Zealand and Australia – taking away the speech of its enemies – China will become the dominant force in the Pacific first, and the World later. Censorship of opposing viewpoints through gun laws was a way to take down opposition without firing a shot. China leveraged GUNS against SPEECH and it worked.

Well, almost.

Buckle up.

W

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EL PASO AND DAYTON. All related materials. Gun Control. Red Flag. Whatever.

Please feel free to REPEAT and UPDATE information from earlier threads.

BRING YOUR BEST.

Anything that proves why the FBI needs to be SAND-BLASTED WITH THE ASTEROID BELT, and the SOCIALISTS need to be chased out of Ohio with HILLARY’S BROOM.

I want to consolidate all our links, visual evidence, analysis, and reasoning.

BURN THE DIRTY FEEBS and their SOCIALIST MASTERS TO THE GROUND.


More calmly, this. It is IMPERATIVE that these incidents be made so toxic that Dems get bad dreams if they just HEAR the words “Red Flag”.

Will Red Flag laws work on SOCIALIST SHOOTERS?

Will Red Flag laws work on OHIO SATANISTS?

Will Red Flag laws work if FBI is still ABUSING INFORMANTS FOR POLITICAL DRAMA?

FLAMETHROWERS ON MAXIMUM BURN!!!

W

WE KNOW.

FFS: False Flag Syndrome

I didn’t want to call it “False Flag Sunday”, but that is what it felt like this morning, when I got up and heard the news about the shooting in Dayton.

What I want to do here is to gather into one place, our thinking about this Q-predicted series of violent attacks.

Part of me does NOT want to segregate this discussion from our normal open thread, but I’m thinking we may be close to a break in this stuff, and it will become much more clear after the afternoon reveals from LE in Dayton. A dedicated thread will help that process.

So here you are. Let’s push back on these DEMONCRAT and HOLDER FACTION narrative operations to BRAINWASH AGAINST GUNS.

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You’ve Got To “Know When” Sunday

In researching for the prayer post earlier this week, I came across the following story of a family returning to their home town in Iraq after ISIS was finally driven out. It is told from the perspective of the young daughter and includes video of earlier interviews from the time when her family was in exile in Egypt.
This is a beautiful story of resilience anchored in hope.

Assessing Situations

The lyrics from Kenny Rogers song, The Gambler, succinctly sum up the necessary task of discerning the right response to a high stakes environment. If you judge the situation correctly you can sometimes take in big winnings, just stay in the game for future wins, move on or live another day.

See also: https://genius.com/Kenny-rogers-the-gambler-lyrics

Jesus’ Parable About Investment

Jesus often taught principles of the Kingdom of Heaven using stories (parables). In the following parable, Jesus is gently directing his disciples attention away from their expectation of God’s immediate judgment coming to earth, wiping out their enemies, and the restoration of Paradise for the righteous among them.
As you read through it, consider your own expectations. What you expect from God. From the White Hats. And, most important of all, what do you expect from yourself?


11 While he had their attention, and because they were getting close to Jerusalem by this time and expectation was building that God’s kingdom would appear any minute, he told this story:

12-13 “There was once a man descended from a royal house who needed to make a long trip back to headquarters to get authorization for his rule and then return. But first he called ten servants together, gave them each a sum of money, and instructed them, ‘Operate with this until I return.’
14 But the citizens there hated him. So they sent a commission with a signed petition to oppose his rule: ‘We don’t want this man to rule us.’
15 “When he came back bringing the authorization of his rule, he called those ten servants to whom he had given the money to find out how they had done.
16 “The first said, ‘Master, I doubled your money.’
17 “He said, ‘Good servant! Great work! Because you’ve been trustworthy in this small job, I’m making you governor of ten towns.
18 “The second said, ‘Master, I made a fifty percent profit on your money.’
19 “He said, ‘I’m putting you in charge of five towns.’
20-21 “The next servant said, ‘Master, here’s your money safe and sound. I kept it hidden in the cellar. To tell you the truth, I was a little afraid. I know you have high standards and hate sloppiness, and don’t suffer fools gladly.’
22-23 “He said, ‘You’re right that I don’t suffer fools gladly—and you’ve acted the fool! Why didn’t you at least invest the money in securities so I would have gotten a little interest on it?’
24 “Then he said to those standing there, ‘Take the money from him and give it to the servant who doubled my stake.’
25 “They said, ‘But Master, he already has double . . .’
26 “He said, ‘That’s what I mean: Risk your life and get more than you ever dreamed of. Play it safe and end up holding the bag.

Luke 19:11-26 The Message (MSG)

And so we come to the very heart of this exploration.

How do we assess the appropriate response when the place where we live is in outright rebellion to our Heavenly King and His ways?

Whether it’s Baltimore or Broward County, Cleveland or California, the right move for you and your family will require discernment. We can all agree that these places come with a higher level of toxicity than other places.

What is a Toxic Environment?

Chernobyl comes to mind. But did you know that plant and animal life around the reactor is stronger and more diverse than before the accident? From an Institute for Creation Research article just published this week (emphasis added):

“Interestingly, in addition to this innate resilience to radiation, some plants in the Chernobyl exclusion zone seem to be using extra mechanisms to protect their DNA, changing its chemistry to make it more resistant to damage, and turning on systems to repair it if this doesn’t work [added emphasis].” His observations coincide with research on the progeny of Arabidopsis plants from Chernobyl.

Several Russian scientists discovered that when exposed to high radiation there was a resistance to mutations through a more than 10-fold decreased frequency of extrachromosomal homologous recombination, major differences in the expression of genes controlling DNA-repair and for proteins removing dangerous free radicals, and a higher level of global genome methylation.

Other research on several bird species at Chernobyl found that they also have internal mechanisms for detecting free radical molecules that are a byproduct of radiation exposure and then up-regulate mechanisms for DNA repair.

Because all DNA damage was repaired more quickly, radiation-exposed birds surprisingly “may even obtain beneficial hormetic effects following an adaptive response.”

It is now obvious that creatures have innate mechanisms that enable them to self-adjust to a higher range of radiation than anticipated. The existence of these systems precedes radiation exposure—Chernobyl was a unique radiation producing event—as there has not been enough time for them to have developed due to evolutionary “tinkering” via “trial-and-error” struggles to survive.

… [T]he Institute for Creation Research has been promoting an organism-focused, design-based model of adaptation called Continuous Environmental Tracking (CET). 

This model explains what organisms are doing when they adapt. The organism-focused arm of the framework hypothesizes that: organisms possess internal mechanisms that enable them to actively and continuously track environmental variables and respond by self-adjusting to changing environments—which results in their adaptation.

The other design-based arm assumes that these internal mechanisms utilize the same engineering principles that constrain how human-designed objects self-adjust to changes.

CET postulates that how organisms adapt is via innate systems with elements analogous to those within human-engineered tracking systems, namely: input sensors, internal logic mechanisms to select suitable responses, and actuators to execute responses. CET, therefore, expects that the creatures’ self-adjustments would be characterized as regulated, rapid, and targeted to specific challenges.


The Foolish Servant

In the parable above, the foolish servant was a complete failure at adaptation. Maybe he saw the rebellion fomenting and buried his master’s money in hopes of cashing in if the rebellion succeeded. Maybe he just was really afraid of loss and that’s why he hid it.
But look at the admonition of the King to this foolish servant, “Why didn’t you at least invest the money in securities so I would have gotten a little interest on it?
Apparently, Jesus wants his followers to understand that He rewards smart risk taking for potential gain and will be more pleased with someone gaining a little in a very safe investment rather than not investing what they have been given at all.

Risky Investments: Exhibit A

If there is anyone out there putting the gifts he has been given into good use, Scott Pressler certainly makes the list!

His work reminds me of a story that takes place during the settling of the “promised land” by the Israelites. Certain tribes wanted to settle on the east side of the Jordan river which had already been conquered. This would be allowed, but the stipulation was that they had to agree to send their fighting men to the west side to help take the whole of the land for their nation before they could enjoy the peace of their own territory.

Your wives, your children and your livestock may stay in the land that Moses gave you east of the Jordan, but all your fighting men, ready for battle, must cross over ahead of your fellow Israelites. You are to help them until the Lord gives them rest, as he has done for you, and until they too have taken possession of the land the Lord your God is giving them. After that, you may go back and occupy your own land, which Moses the servant of the Lord gave you east of the Jordan toward the sunrise.” Then they answered Joshua, “Whatever you have commanded us we will do, and wherever you send us we will go.”

Joshua 1:14-16 

In Scott’s case, he is traveling around the country to invest his talents in whatever way benefits all patriotic Americans. He is fighting for us! May the Lord guide, protect and equip this young man for what lies ahead in his life.

Risky Investments: Exhibit B

Later in Israel’s history, their land was conquered and the people were carried away captive to Babylon. God gave their prophet, Jeremiah, instructions to help them know how to respond to this upheaval.

“This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon: Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce. Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters. Increase in number there; do not decrease.”

Jeremiah 29:4-6

Jeremiah 29:7Now imagine the risk of following these instructions. What if the situation changes and you are able to return to your homeland quickly? What if the Babylonians decide to relocate you and all your work is for nothing? Quite the risky investment.
And yet, they are told to pour their sweat equity into building houses, growing food and making big families. They are to seek the welfare of the city where they have been placed–while remaining in captivity!
As it turned out, they were there for some 70 years. Those that heeded the words of the prophet would be coming out of captivity strong and prosperous.

Risky Investments: Exhibit C

In the case of the Iraqi Christian family returning to Qaraqosh (mentioned at the top of this article), they are returning to their hometown which has been bombed, looted, nearly destroyed–with about half of the original residents choosing to not return to rebuild. A different set of risks, but certainly made the choice to return and invest in the community they came from instead of seeking refuge in another, perhaps safer, place.

So back to that pesky question…

How do we assess the appropriate response when the place where we live is in outright rebellion to our Heavenly King and His ways?

I don’t think there is a simple answer.
It’s true that for some people there comes a point in time when they just know in their hearts it is time to leave. And for others it is just as clear that they are to stay and “pray to the Lord” on the behalf of the city God has placed them in.
Many will spend a long time working out what is right for them. But that is the journey and no one else can tell anyone what is the right path for another. I have deep respect for anyone that takes that journey. A journey of truly seeking God’s highest and best purpose for them no matter the cost.
May God grant us all discernment, wisdom, and peace in the process.
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