“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This TO DESTROY ANTIFA (AND #AUNTIFA) TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse
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“MR. PRESIDENT – I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND PRAY FOR AMERICA TOO!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
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Candidate Donald J. Trump
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It turns out that we can thank LAURA INGRAHAM for tonight’s theme / meme of “The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse“.
If you need proof, here it is – right in the TREACHEROUS HUFFPO.
I find it remarkable that Laura SO QUICKLY and SO LONG AGO spotted the PERNICIOUS PESTILENCE that is this coven of new and remarkably un-American – no – I take that back – ANTI-AMERICAN congresswomen – who seek power over America.
If you want to watch that episode, here it is:
https://youtu.be/haslnW-eOlo
And YES – the “four horsewomen” comment comes at 4:25 in the video, if you want to check it out.
I found something rather remarkable, thanks to the FAKE NEWS SOCIAL MEDIA (YouTube) and its massive and omnipresent BIAS against all things Trump, Republican, etc.
The fake news was REALLY SCARED OF THIS SEGMENT. Not only did I find the HuffPo piece very quickly (and before I found Laura’s actual monologue) – I also found right next to it a “Young Turks” panel of women who spent 12 minutes going off on Laura’s criticism.
Here is THAT video – without the benefit of showing. Sorry, ladies – all you get is a link: https://youtu.be/GgQ53kzqcUM
Fortunately, our wonderful VSGPOTUS – defending AMERICA from those who despise it, has maximally unmasked these bitter agents of COMMUNISM and ISLAMISM.
So much so, that even the HORRIBLE COMMUNIST David Axelrod was forced to the surface, from his bottom-feeding mud-hole somewhere in Chicago….
YOU get to defend both the VIOLENT #ANTIFA and the SUBVERSIVE #AUNTIFA.
Or should I say – #AUNTIFAH.
There you go – it comes in two varieties – COMMUNIST and ISLAMIST. Take your pick.
So while we’re at it, using the TRUMP DOCTRINE to make the COMMUNISTS and ISLAMISTS behind the Democrat Party responsible for the angry loony radical communist and Islamist ladies of AUNTIFA(H), it’s time to also make them responsible for the VIOLENCE of ANTIFA.
And on that note, a VERY interesting video from NORWAY.
AH – the COMFORTING PRESENCE of a peaceful family man – STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFEND WHAT’S RIGHT, from those who USE CONFLICT AND HATRED to advance an UNWANTED AGENDA OF CONTROL over the PEOPLE.
Check out this man’s wonderful testimony.
HOW NORWAY GOT RID OF ANTIFA.
The video is painfully long, but the man’s slow, controlled, precise, oddly “West-Germanic” Norwegian-accented English, is weirdly soothing, and worth at least a short listen.
His prescription (as interpreted / analyzed / augmented by me) comes down to this:
they have to be arrested, every time they are violent or do something illegal
they need to be ridiculed as LOSERS – not bullied – but regularly ridiculed
their hatred of traditional masculinity and family must be recognized and criticized
they ALL have personal issues – FIXING THOSE weakens their abuse by communists
the abuse of these mental patients by communists to fill the ranks must be criticized
the TRANS movement that FILLS ANTIFA must be shut down as mental abuse
the TRANS movement is designed to GENERATE CONFLICTOS to become ANTIFA
the antifa groups now have support from the INTERNET – weaken / oppose it
they now have too much support from journalists – ridicule, criticize, warn and shame
journalists labeling normies AS NAZIS is exactly what the NAZIS did – demand they stop
antifa have both support and CREATION from academics – weaken, criticize, spotlight
antifa are “farmed” in universities – weaken, criticize, and SUE OUT THE WAZOO
the centrist politicians who will define the future of a peaceful nation must shun them
the contradictions of the movement (hatred and violence) must be made clear
ban the wearing of masks to force members to face both consequences and contradictions
members have to be given a PATH OF RETREAT to leave the movement, #WALKAWAY
(Thanks to Wheatie for a reminder about the banning of masks – VERY important!)
I can tell you, that after I listen to this video, then cross-reference it with the video at the end, in which UNIVERSITIES are identified as ANTIFA INCUBATORS, and catalog the individual points above, I am quite confident that we can destroy ANTIFA and make Democrats, and particularly the COMMUNISTS who are in control of the party, fully responsible for the mess.
This Make-It-So Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
We’re on a mission that started years ago:
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
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I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Thunderstep Music, titled ‘Dare The Impossible’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump at a rally, standing at a podium with Trump supporters behind him, holding up signs. He is smiling calmly and about to speak. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is President Trump, back in 2011 at the White House Correspondents Diner, where he had to endure being viciously ridiculed by the jackals of the press corps. He is sitting there stoically with a look of resolve on his face. Fourth Image: President Trump is walking away from Marine One on the White House grounds. It is after dark and he is returning from a full day of appearances. Through the dark, in the distance is the Washington Monument lit up for the evening, with two beacon lights shining at the top of it.
This Saving Our Republic Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Ivan Torrent, titled ‘Human Legacy’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: A young lady warrior is standing in a field of tall grasses, looking over her shoulder at us. Behind her in the distance, an enormous Tree dominates the landscape. Her long white hair and the tall grasses, are blowing in the wind. Her dark green velvet embroidered tunic has a band of metal armor at the hips, which comes to a V in the front and back. She has metal armor on her shoulders and forearm, and the wind is blowing the long dark green cape that is attached at her shoulders. She is holding a sword in her right hand and in her left hand is a round metal object that appears to be giving off a soft blue glow.
The enormous Tree is in the valley below her and there are gigantic arched structures built into the side of it’s trunk. White birds are flying out from the Tree, towards us. A few small structures dot the landscape around the base of the Tree, along with a forest of smaller trees. Beyond the valley, there are rays of the sun casting light on the Tree and the warrior, as the sun emerges from a distant mountain range. There are white clouds moving through a blue sky. Second Image: A stone pathway leads up to tall double doors, built into the side of an enormous tree trunk. The doors are arched and covered in ornate carvings. There are a few small points of light in the doors, giving off a slight blue glow. Rays of sunlight illuminate the path in front of the doors. Third Image: Is a view of a large room with high ceilings. There are cushioned chairs and a sofa with throw pillows. Tree branches cris-cross the ceiling, with a couple of chandeliers fashioned from branches, suspended from the ceiling. There is a large stone fireplace with a tapestry hanging above the mantle. Fourth Image: President Trump is standing in front of a window in the Oval Office, looking out at the grounds. The view is of his back. His elbows are bent, with his forearms in front of him, perhaps they are crossed…or he is holding something.
It should be an obvious point: Given the determined, coordinated censorship of conservative and libertarian speech by the evil tech giants, no future election that takes place under coordinated censorship is legitimate if it produces a Democrat victor. Democracy depends on the ability of citizens to engage in open, public debate about issues, candidates and policies, yet the tech giants in America today have systematically annihilated the voices of nearly all prominent conservatives in an effort to crush public discourse and steal all future elections for Democrats.
The actions of the tech giants have destroyed the very idea of fair and free elections. Without the freedom to speak, there can be no legitimate elections in America.
Thus, until free speech is restored in America by reversing the de-platforming and shadowbanning of conservative voices, #WeDoNotConsent to any Democrat winning any election, period. All such Democrats are illegitimate and should be removed from public office until fair and free elections can be held in an environment where Americans are free to speak (and publicly debate).
Until a national voter ID law is implemented every election will be stolen by illegal alien voters who are encouraged by Democrats to commit election fraud
Similarly, until a national voter ID law is implemented nationwide, no election can be considered legitimate because Democrats are allowing illegals to vote in local and national elections. This means that votes of American citizens are being outweighed by the votes of illegal aliens who broke to law to enter the country without legal permission.
California, New York and other states are deliberately recruiting illegals to vote, even handing them state driver’s licenses that grant them voting rights. This is blatant sedition on the part of local officials who are complicit in the attempted overthrow of the United States of America by an invasion of illegals who are also granted “sanctuary” status even when they are murderers and rapists. This is what the Left in America has become: Complicit in aiding and abetting illegal alien murderers so that they win elections by out-numbering the votes of real American citizens.
From this day forward, no Democrat elected to office in America is a legitimate representative of the American people. They may be removed from power by We the People to restore the rule of law. No elections must be held after speech is restored and a national voter ID law is implemented. Only then do we have “fair and free” elections in America.
Watch and share my video below, via Brighteon.com, which explains more. And tweet out #WeDoNotConsent at every opportunity.
This Steady As We Go Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Thunderstep Music, titled ‘Unbroken Spirit’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a massive Tree growing up out of a deep canyon; the base of which has an intricate internal structure of several floors of large rooms with arched openings and long windows. A soft light is shining out from them. There are two suspended pathways, leading to the base of the Tree on opposite sides of the canyon.
There are streams of water falling magically off of the huge leafed-out branches of the Tree…cascading down into the canyon below. It’s as though the Tree itself, is the source of the water. The sides of the canyon are covered in lush, verdant tree growth…but none are as massive as the Tree growing up from the canyon.
In the background, the canyon ends and gives rise to a large green clearing that is covered with a stepped series of waterfalls, cascading down into the canyon. This is all surrounded by huge snow-capped mountains, reaching upward to the sun and clouds. The position of the massive Tree eclipses the sun, causing to it to be backlit…but the Tree’s branches are so densely covered in leaves, there is very little light showing through. Second Image: Is a cozy interior view of a stairway against the wall leading down into a large area with overstuffed chairs, a couch and soft lighting. There is a bannister made of winding tree branches. Throw pillows and throw rugs add to the comfy atmosphere. Third Image: Is President Trump with a solemn, quizzical look on his face.
I love to remind people just how powerful DISINFORMATION is by this little fact from Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Watch the first few minutes, or skip straight to my summary.
According to Bezmenov, the KGB was roughly 85% about DISINFORMATION, DEMORALIZATION, and other “ACTIVE MEASURES” – and only 15% about “James Bond” espionage. Yuri clearly thought this was humorous, and though he predicted that many would not believe him, he could not suppress a smile when discussing it.
After everything I’ve learned, I not only believe Bezmenov was being incredibly honest about this bias toward “offensive psychological warfare” – I believe that 85:15 is a PROPER mix. Disinformation is simply too cheap and effective. It would be NEGLIGENT to fail to use it, or to use it enough.
And yet – well – I really despise disinformation. Because it is LIES.
So let’s look at some real disinformation I ran into recently, and maybe you’ll see why.
What happened can be summarized in a brief list:
Two of our fellow QTreepers brought a very interesting picture to me
The picture is a military unit patch very clearly connected to “chemtrails”
Searching for discussion of the patch, I found it FOR SALE
The site admits in a VERY gentle way to making fun of “conspiracy theorists”
NOW – this is where it gets interesting. but before I get to that part, I want to document what I just said, so that people can follow it clearly.
Here is where the conversation with boondocksaint1 and B.b.S.s.Saint began – or at least, where the conversation TURNED to the subject at hand.
We lived in MO for a while, went past clown airport, Evergreen Air was on the sign. There was also a town, full of high end homes that nobody occupied, called ‘Evergreen’. There was a ‘fortress’ built into the side of a small mtn. just outside ‘Evergreen’. The signs into the secured property surrounding that fortress had signs that said, you guessed it, ‘Evergreen’. The property was also marked as ‘US Gov. Reservation, no trespassing’, Before we left MO, the signs all switched to ‘Miranda Air’. ALL fronts for the Clowns. The patches on the aircrews read Don’t Just Spray ‘Em, Barium. The sum total of what is in those ‘chem trails’ is designed to kill us. I hope the ‘white hats’ do whatever they are going to do pretty soon, before it’s too late!
Barium is pretty toxic stuff, except as highly insoluble salts like the sulfate (used in contrast agents). Wondering what form they are using. I will bet it’s the sulfate.
This is beautiful. You have accidentally stumbled upon one of the most brilliant disinformation operations I’ve ever seen. This is, I believe, what Eric Schmidt based his “fake news” operation on.
Fake news was a seeded disinformation operation using bogus parody sites to “seed the clouds” on the internet, so that Google and the rest of Silicon Valley could justify censorship.
This is the same thing from the military world, though with a much different purpose – to OBSCURE THINGS.
They are hiding one or more of three things, IMO, all of which are highly classified.
What I can tell you is that this patch is phony. It is disinformation, and it is part of a disinformation operation masquerading as something completely different which does the same thing, in a kind of “double reverso”.
They are “making fun of” the same conspiracy theories they are INTENTIONALLY GENERATING.
Making fun of something unreal with the intent that the humor is missed, so that it generates the non-existent thing – it just leaves me in a kind of crime-solver awe.
We are dealing with professionals.
It is absolutely beautiful. And – in an even greater form of “dark beauty”, they are actually USING the same theoretical principles as cloud seeding. It transcends being HILARIOUS to being BEAUTIFUL. It is one of the most brilliant scams I’ve ever seen.
I am SO tempted to bust this, but if I do it wrongly, it risks bringing THREE highly classified programs closer to exposure. So I have to be very careful.
Annoying. But you’ve given me a REALLY GOOD NUKE. So I have to thank you. My own safety is now a little more assured.
SO – let me put it this way. If I lessened your belief in chemtrails, but increased your knowledge of REAL conspiracies and disinformation, but without telling you exactly WHAT they are hiding, would you be interested?
I will wait for your article, but those lingering, criss-crossing, spreading lines in the sky that change the weather and make me cough all the time are something. Silvery reflective skies that remind me of the old movie projector screens and make gray domes, I call them Hunger Game skies. My garden has not produced abundant or healthy produce for years now. I await your insights. I thin
How do you explain seeing the patch in person? I DO NOT doubt what you say about the ‘conspiracy theories’, but an entire town & operation built on ‘disinfo’. The patch I saw said the same thing, but may have been slightly different, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was designed to throw everyone off. these are, however things I have seen in person, & i guess it wouldn’t surprise me.
Disinformation is cheaper than real weapons, in the same way that fake cellular phones in cars back in the ’80’s were quite affordable by any sleazy guy in a polyester suit, unlike the real McCoy, which were only affordable by “top dogs” like Donald Trump.
Even more beautiful (in a dark way) is how easy it is to get others to CARRY the disinformation forward.
Tonight, I am DISCERNMENT ITSELF, and I’m going to RAIN IT DOWN, to water the SEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING. 😀
I have some hardware duties I have to attend to before posting – cannot guarantee a post before morning, but hopefully a.s.a.p.
Here is the picture that we were talking about. The key element is a military unit-style patch with “Don’t just spray ’em – BARIUM!” around the edges – with a picture of a jet laying two trails behind it, flying over a tombstone with a cross on top, and the tombstone is engraved with a typical periodic table entry for the element barium (Ba), including the atomic number (56) and the atomic weight (137.327).
The picture was obviously taken INSIDE a plane, with the cockpit instrumentation serving as the background to the patch being held up in somebody’s left hand.
NOW – here is the place where that picture came from – a discussion on reddit:
NOW – here is a very similar picture of the EXACT SAME patch being held up, but with a different background – the exterior of a plane. This is from the page I found online.
Note that it’s the same patch, held up in almost the same way.
So where did I find this patch? A site called “Team ChemTrail”
It is even more instructive to look at the “about” page for the site.
To make sure people can read the text in text readers, here it is as a block quote:
ABOUT TEAMCHEMTRAIL
Welcome to the world of our Southern California Chemtrail operation! We are happy to present to you the official TeamChemtrail website where we work hard to bring forth some of the most entertaining pilot products you can find. Deep in the Chemworks we are constantly working hard to bring you new and improved ways of enlightening and scaring all conspiracy theorists.
Our operation took off unexpectedly after creating our TeamChemtrail patch and selling it to a few friends. Before we knew it the worldwide web had created a firestorm of orders and controversy, and we realized we had to grow fast to meet the excitement generated!
Our team is built up from some of the most entertaining pilots found throughout the country. We have flight instructors, corporate pilots, airline pilots, and student pilots all who love spreading the good word on the truth about the chemtrails they spread. Our head designer Tom (aka Maverick) is the brain behind all of the great products that come forth from the Chemworks!
Follow us on Instagram @Teamchemtrail or our Facebook page! We are always looking for new pilots who are as excited about finally telling the truth about chemtrails!!
SO – we have finally ended up at a website which sells these patches, and if we take this site at face value, then what we are seeing here is a site where pilots make fun of “chemtrails believers” and make some money selling humorous patches to other pilots.
And THAT is where the story is supposed to end.
But then that is the trouble with dropping disinformation in front of THE WOLF.
The WOLF doesn’t BELIEVE that stories ever end. They either GO DEEPER, or they turn into NEXT CHAPTERS.
So SUSPICIOUS WOLF IS SUSPICIOUS.
To understand WHY The Wolf was suspicious of this whole story, but not in a way that was anticipated by the story, one has to go back to THE REAL HISTORY OF FAKE NEWS.
Before Trump started calling the Mainstream Media (MSM), a.k.a. the Mind Control Media (MCM), “fake news”, THEY had labeled much of what Trump supporters were sharing online on social media as “fake news”. Indeed, President Trump was SO SUCCESSFUL in re-labeling the MSM as “the fake news” or “the fake news media”, and what they were saying as “fake news”, that people tend to forget that HIS USAGE was actually a BOOMERANG of an MSM term used against Trump supporters.
After Trump deflected the MCM’s “fake news” attack, taking the term for his own use, the MCM moved on to “Russian bots” and other forms of Russia-related propaganda, and now they are going after what they call “misinformation” and the oh-so-scary (and very likely soon-to-be-released) “deep fakes”.
The MCM is certainly very PERSISTENT in trying to regain their FAKE credibility through censorship, so they can use it for MOAR censorship, but – OH WELL – it’s not working, and I’m certainly happy about that.
NOW – I need to tell you TWO important things about the original MCM “fake news” hit job on Trump supporters, in which they demonized us – SLANDERED US – for our allegedly sharing “fake news” online. As you will see, it was a CYNICAL set-up – EVIL to its core.
(1) Sharyl Attkisson traced the original fake news narrative back to former Google CEO Eric Schmidt (who I increasingly believe was just a FRONT for “Red Diaper Sergey”).
(2) I was one of the people who spotted “somebody” seeding the very beginnings of the “fake news” narrative, and I had WARNED the good guys what was going on.
The first point – Sharyl Attkisson NAILING Google – is the subject of THIS awesome TED talk. If you have NOT seen this amazing Sharyl Attkisson video, I highly recommend it. It will be among the top candidates for “best 10 minutes of your life ever spent”, as it will OPEN YOUR EYES to how “active measures” propaganda works on a MASSIVE, GLOBAL SCALE. The NEWS in America and the WORLD was literally manipulated for a couple of years by a HILLARY CLINTON PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION.
Sharyl is telling you very clearly the overall story of “fake news”, and particularly the ENDING, where Trump REVERSED IT.
But *I* can tell you certain things she cannot – about the BEGINNING.
SO – I need to make that second point – how “fake news” was INITIATED – very clearly. In doing so, you will hopefully see WHY it’s so relevant to those “Team Chemtrail” patches.
Before “fake news” was a thing, there were always “news wars” on social media – Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. – where Patriots would share politics and news articles, and Libtards would shitpost, troll, argue, and generally be PESTS in response.
Social media was clearly stacked against us, but overall, WE WERE WINNING. WE were getting the word out, DESPITE their trolls trying to deflect, counter, discourage and demean.
WE WERE WINNING.
The fact that we were posting and speaking THE TRUTH gave us extreme credibility.
One of the things that began to happen, however – correlating with the rise of fact-checkers like Snopes – is that certain articles would be called out – often with great embarrassment to the conservative poster – as BOGUS. Indeed, to prevent passing on misinformation, it became very important to VALIDATE almost any article passed on in social media. People needed to essentially do background checks on what they were posting. Citizen journalists really needed to be more like journalists, and less like citizens simply passing on hidden journalism.
I observed, with some dismay, that when conservatives would get caught passing on bogus news, they would often psychologically shut down, give up, and STOP PASSING ON NEWS. However, I also found that if a gentler soul like YOURS TRULY would investigate the bogus news, I could break it to the conservative poster more gently. Not only would that poster “stay in the game” – they would be more careful in the future. A clear WIN for our side. Right?
Thus, I began to research all kinds of dubious “news” being passed around on the internet, while educating fellow conservatives in how to spot the fake stuff. I became the kinder, gentler, HONEST Snopes. And therein I also began a roughly 2-3 year WAR with the DNC, the CIA, Brock and his trolls, and whoever else was creating the bogus information.
Some of the very first forms of fake news I discovered were articles taken from satire and parody sites. However, there was something really odd about ALL of these sites.
They weren’t funny.
Whether to liberals or conservatives, they were simply not funny. Yet these sites were OPERATING under the ideas of satire and parody.
It became obvious very quickly that the greatest EFFECT of these sites was to lessen any authority of conservative “media-sharing posters”.
Consider the following example – a Starbucks opening where people were supposedly invited to walk on a picture of Donald Trump.
It was a Photoshop job. Just a little bit of work found the REAL picture, which was in the news at that time.
Executives with Starbucks open the doors for the first time at the newest coffee shop in Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim.
Not only was the satire and parody unfunny – it seemed very much to follow a pattern:
believable, and based on reality, but NOT REAL
unprovable, or even provably WRONG
“too good to be true” from a conservative standpoint
seemingly designed to FOOL people
and I repeat, very important, NOT FUNNY
All in all, this stuff seemed designed to do exactly what it did – FOOL CONSERVATIVES into picking it up and repeating it.
Who would do such a thing? I mean, who would intentionally make conservatives look stupid, lying, untrustworthy, lacking credibility, and I repeat – STUPID?
Yeah, like one even has to ask.
Sure, one may counter that MONEY might be a motivation.
I will counter with my constant cry – that we must USE “AND logic”. The “self-propelled operation” is almost de rigueur any more. Expect any CIA-approved operation to make its own money.
SO – when it was finally revealed that HILLARY HENCHMAN Eric Schmidt of Google was behind this whole fake news narrative – WELL, THAT MADE A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE.
SO – now that you know the whole story on “Fake News”, where were we?
OH YES. “Team Chemtrail”.
There are 1000 reasons I am sure this is is an OPERATION. Most of them, I cannot tell you, because of something I call “reactive disinformation”. I have found that giving up my tells just lets the other side fix them, and – worse yet – deploy NEW and specially crafted disinformation, based on whatever I said. SO – what I encourage people on our side to do, is to STUDY this and other sites like it, as well as any of the old “fake news satire and parody sites” that are still around.
You will eventually spot the tells, and YOU, TOO, CAN KEEP THEM QUIET.
You will see – this one just SMELLS like the old fake news sites.
What I can tell you are some of the things that the other side cannot or will not change, because of the very nature of what they are doing. So NOTE these things about the Team Chemtrail site:
the denunciation of “chemtrails” and believers in them is gentle enough that various psychological processes in that audience are soothed, activated, or bypassed
it gives up very little risky information about the people behind it
it gathers information on people in relation to the subject
the overall package FEEDS THE CONSPIRACY THEORY rather than abating it
The last point is extremely important. They CANNOT CHANGE THAT. It’s a requisite feature.
DO NOT speculate on the motivation yet – going there is the first mistake of BUSTING AN OP. Just call the people behind it “them”, and their reasons for doing it “their motive”. We don’t have to know who or why YET.
What we now need to do is to RE-DIGEST everything we know in light of the new information.
This is the point that pops out the most to me:
SOMEBODY WANTS TO INITIATE, STOKE, AND FEED THE CHEMTRAILS IDEA.
This is the beginning of understanding.
What else do we know? Keep going from there….
the people stoking chemtrails are American, or operate freely on American soil
they are definitely connected to aviation
they are probably connected to the government and/or military
they stoke in a deniable fashion, meaning their PUBLIC position would be disconnected from any such stoking
their public position may be the opposite of chemtrails
they need the stoked conspiracy theory for some reason
they may have even STARTED the entire chemtrails idea
whatever social negatives come from the chemtrails conspiracy theory, there must be positives to the stoking which outweigh them, in the eyes of whoever is behind the feeding of the narrative
Based on this, I have some immediate CLASSES of candidates for the WHO and WHY of “we need chemtrails and a group of people who believe in it“.
I’m being very general here, so that many possible theories and motives can fit into the facts.
Here we go. Enjoy the show.
Adjacent Strawman: It’s not chemtrails, but it’s chemtrails.
One of the best ways to gin up cover and confusion about a thing, is to stoke up controversy about the THING ITSELF using disinformation.
Creating small, false VARIANTS – “adjacent strawmen” – is a great way to feed any disproofs. The “snopesing” of ideas is literally based on this technique. But it goes beyond just Snopes.
In the HANDBOOK OF DISINFORMATION, there is a picture of Jack Posobiec next to the chapter on this stuff.
The idea here is that “REAL CHEMTRAILS” may be a small and very advantageous subset of the entire chemtrails mythos, or it could be something VERY similar but completely unknown. Whatever it is, it works, it helps America get ahead, maybe saving the government billions of dollars in tax revenues, and we don’t want other nations to know about it. What do we do?
create a large, camouflaging controversy about “chemtrails”
feed a lot of strawman JUNK into it to hide the real stuff
make the whole thing believable enough to stay maximally viral, but unbelievable upon close inspection
make ourselves the bad guys of the myth, because that is “the interest on the truth debt”, and if the whole thing blows open, we don’t owe anybody anything on the lies, and we may even look like the good guys for protecting WHATEVER IT’S REALLY ABOUT.
To me, this is a strong contender. There is SOME TRUTH to the chemtrails mythos, but most of it is just COVER DISINFORMATION.
But wait – there’s MOAR….
Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails – it’s a different conspiracy.
This is my favorite class of theories. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any REAL examples, all of which are excellent, because they are based on REAL classified operations which I’m not supposed to know about, but I do. Nevertheless, I can tell you that the smart money is here.
What I can do is illustrate using a ridiculous FAKE example.
Let’s say that we’ve discovered some really amazing way to increase military intelligence by leaving a bunch of trails at certain times and places in the sky. Maybe it’s not terrible chemicals – maybe it’s just WATER VAPOR from adding a lot of WATER into the exhaust of the jet engines. Let’s say it works like crazy. It adds a GOLD MINE of intelligence for Team America.
Well, we’ve got to cover this up. Now think of all the ways to do this:
add way more trails than we actually need, including useless distracting ones
distract from WATER VAPOR by making people think it’s something opposite like barium
add a bunch of really ridiculous ideas that serve as SHINY OBJECTS
name it CHEMTRAILS instead of WATERTRAILS
What should be EXTREMELY DISTURBING to you, RIGHT NOW, is that even my FAKE IDEA, which I literally MADE UP ON THE FLY, actually sounds extremely reasonable.
This is the power of disinformation.
So anyway, now you may be seeing why I think this is the strongest class of theories. We are dealing with professional disinformation. If so, CHEMTRAILS may be hiding SOMETHING ELSE.
And even worse, that something may be REALLY BIG.
Massive Cover-Up: It’s not chemtrails, it’s aliens.
How can I put this simply?
OK – let’s try this…
“We’re sprayin’ for bugs, folks!”
What I’m really doing here, is saying that, instead of merely distracting from some “normal” military program, “chemtrails” is actually covering up something so FAR OUT, shocking, or deeply classified, that suffering the negatives of “bad American military” is actually WORTH IT to hide whatever it is.
What could this be?
There are an infinite number of weird scenarios here. Let me just throw out one of them. ANDROMEDA STRAIN meets INDEPENDENCE DAY meets PREDATOR vs. ALIEN.
Let’s say that some race of pesky aliens is trying to steer humanity into ITS corner, rather than some OTHER group’s corner, and to change our minds – LITERALLY – is manipulating the flu virus for increased neurological payload, to keep people stupid, docile and manipulable. It’s all statistics. Every year, they scrooch human DNA a bit more toward where they want it. The infinite stupidity of LIBTARDS is a direct result.
(Hmmmm. Actually, I’m likin’ this theory already!)
Meanwhile, human defenders are busy fighting back with OUR OWN modification of the flu virus, and THAT is the truth of Chemtrails. It’s really DEMTRAILS. Biotrails. THEMTRAILS. Something like that.
OK. Maybe that’s not it. Maybe we’re dropping some element that turns out to be a nightmare for UFO propulsion technology, and they are unable to do their little flying-around thing when we spray for them.
Whatever. The idea is that there is some really deep, dark secret – probably involving aliens, that they are COVERING UP with the idea of chemtrails.
Now – let’s back up to REALITY.
All of these theories – all three classes – are speculation. I have no idea if it’s any of these things.
What I do know is this. Based on my experience FIGHTING American and foreign disinformation, I believe that somebody WANTS this chemtrails stuff. They want it enough to orchestrate deniable ops around it.
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Audiomachine, titled ‘Godspeed’:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is President Trump outside of the White House, giving a little wave with his right hand. He is grinning with his head tilted slightly to the right. It is a bright, sunny day, so he is squinting a little. Second Image: Is a moving image, a gif, of a polar bear with his head and shoulders down on the ice. He is pushing forward with his hind legs. He looks tired…but is pushing himself forward, even with his front half down on the ice. Third Image: Is another moving image, a gif, of a dog laying down on a carpeted floor. His head is on the floor and he is looking forward with a patient look on his face, as an endless stream of kittens runs past his head. Fourth Image: President Trump is standing on the stairway outside the door of Air Force One. It is night time and the lights shining on him create a shadow of him on the aircraft door that looks like the head of an Eagle.
This Shining Light Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KMAG world.
Come on in and get comfy:
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Twelve Titans Music, titled ‘Bound By Purpose’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Top Image: Is a gigantic Tree reaching up into white fluffy clouds. Rays of the sun are emerging through the clouds and are streaming through the Tree’s leafy canopy and massive branches. There are wisps of clouds around the lower sections of the Tree’s giant trunk. Second Image: Is a view of a winding stone path surrounded on each side by a thick growth of a variety of colorful flowers. The path leads to an arched doorway with double doors. There is an ornate metal gate as an outer cover for the doorway. More flowers and lush green ivy completely surround the doorway on all sides. Third Image: Is a rounded open room-sized viewing deck, looking out over tree tops. There is a cushioned S-shaped seating console in the center of the room, with lots of throw pillows. Round cushioned ottomans are positioned against it, fitting into the concave sections of it’s S-shape. Towards the outer edge of the deck is a small fire pit in the center of a round cushioned bench. There is free-form railing around the outer edge of the deck. Fourth Image: President Trump is sitting at his desk in the oval office, reading some papers. Sunlight is streaming in from one of the windows behind him, illuminating both him and the papers he is holding. An aide is standing beside the desk, and looks like he is waiting for President Trump to read what he is looking at.
This FEAR NO EVIL FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGAKAG! KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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And what do we want to be able to tell our VSG?
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q posted again, according to a reliable pattern (see if you see the same one I am seeing).
This is big. THIS is the main message, IMO. It is PSYCHOLOGICAL. It is IMMINENT. This is not “get ready” – you should have prepared ALREADY. This is BE READY.
I know I recycled an old “preparation” meme for the header, but that’s the one where, when it originally played, you should have “gotten ready”.
Yeah, there is likely time to fill the tanks and hit the grocery store, but BIG PREP should have been done by now.
Note that Q’s post is very subtle, almost BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, TIC, TOC, YAWN, YAWN, YAWN in a kind of “don’t pay attention to the person who has said all this stuff before” way.
You know what I’m sayin’? Good. “Pay attention to this one” is where I’m putting MY CHIPS.
Future comms, baby! Why? Because things are GOING DYNAMIC very soon. All that stuff Q talked about, about comms being shut down, messed with, and otherwise under attack – this is going to happen. We are going to have to GET DYNAMIC and FIGHT BACK.
HELL – it’s happening ALREADY! Just think about it. The Cabal tried to ratchet it up slowly, but it’s obvious that they’ve been turning the screws on us.
They are OPENLY MOVING AGAINST FREE SPEECH NOW. The FIRST AMENDMENT.
You see all this shit coming out now about what Silicon Valley was doing? Altering our fucking search results for POLITICAL CONTENT back to WELL before the 2016 election? Meddling on a scale that DWARFS what they even ALLEGE that Russia did!
DO YOU KNOW what this means? This means that “WE HAVE IT ALL” was watching this shit IN PROGRESS. This “breaking news” of MASSIVE ELECTION MEDDLING by Silicon Valley was KNOWN. “We have it all” had it all, brothers and sisters. They KNEW what kind of treason was being pulled. These LEFT TECH fuckers thought they were getting away with it.
I don’t see these progzi turds in Silicon Valley giving up. I don’t see them backing down. I see them having to be DRAGGED OUT IN CUFFS.
Okay, folks. Think of this as recon #101. We’re scoping our opponents, looking for good memes for the 2020 election season. Yes, in order to be informed citizens, we have to watch the debates. We KNOW the press takes comments out of context, on the left and on the right——– so let’s be accurate, at least.
And there’s the chance our President will be tweeting comments to keep life interesting. Keep in mind, however, he leaves for the G20 at 1:00pm today and might be over the Pacific or otherwise engaged.
Hey Treepers, do us all a favor while you are here. If you have info about a particular Dem Candidate, please drop the info into the thread below. We can then come back to this thread as a reference.
Should be a fun evening. No throwing television sets into the driveway! Put on your happy face and come to the party!
