DEAR KAG: 20211224 – Christmas Eve – The Pub is OPEN / How Bill Gates Took Down Hydroxychloroquine

The Pub is OPEN again!

With a blend of humor and seriousness, like any good bar, we celebrate this grand re-opening of WOLF’S PUB on Christmas Eve, December 24, 2021, by actually opening near closing time on Christmas Eve Eve, but what the heck.

IT’S ALMOST CHRISTMAS.

While our beloved bartender takes a needed break of unknown duration, we will ENDEAVOR TO PERSEVERE.

I will admit right off the cricket bat that this here substitute bartender doesn’t know jack shit about alcohol compared to our regular one, so he’s going to have to substitute some rather wild and crazy concoctions for the drinks, seeing as he does have some experience with ALCOHOLS OF THE WRONG KIND.

And while we’re at it, THANK GOD FOR INDIA, and another alcohol with medicinal applications!!!

Washington : Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi hugs President Donald Trump as Modi departs the White House, Monday, June 26, 2017, in Washington. AP/PTI(AP6_27_2017_000035B)

Truthfully, some of the best ideas in science are to be found at local pubs, when the research groups go out and have enough beer and wine to begin saying what they REALLY think about this or that.

So WHO KNOWS what fascinating things might be said in Wolf’s Pub on a Thursday or Friday night?

But first, let’s get the RED TAPE out of the way.

VERBATIM, from the regular bartender.


HOUSE RULES

God bless us, every one! Tiny Tim had such a beautiful soul. He hadn’t a mean bone in his body…unlike most of us. But in keeping with Christmas, we promise to honor Wolf’s rules and keep Scrooge at bay. The Utree is where the Ghost of Christmas Present will conduct you should you need to rattle some chains. Another option, should all hell break loose is here.

Now, back to business.


AMEN!

And TGIF!

And thus a moment of thanks to ALL our contributors, current, past, and future!

H/T DP for this one!


Current Art On The Wall

Every bar needs some art on the wall, and seeing that we’re a virtual bar with access to millions of digital counterfeit prints, you may find more than just “Dogs Playing Poker”. That said…..


A Late Nod To Hanukkah

I totally missed Hanukkah this year. I was planning on doing a post, but this year, Hanukkah fell PRECISELY during my bout with Delta, and my quarantine period afterwards, and I just blew it off.

Well, better late than never.

Indeed, I think it’s pretty cool that I was “counting the days” during my illness – with Hanukkah falling on “Day 2” – the height of my illness – and finishing on “Day 9” – completely recovered and feeling great.

I love these pictures of President Trump and FLOTUS Melania – she really looked happy at this White House Hanukkah celebration.

Nothing can take away the FOUR GREAT YEARS of the Trump Presidency. Nothing. They will live forever. And for some weird reason, the story of Hanukkah reminds me of the story of the Trump Presidency.

And THAT story is not over yet!


Vaccine Stuff

This is just an image! Don’t click it!

If you have not seen the video of President Trump with Candace Owens, then give SUNDANCE a click (below) and watch the video over there. Hat Tip to WSB for alerting me to this great video. She also has a comment over there, and HERE, too. Be sure to watch to the end! You won’t regret it.

LINK: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/23/president-trump-supports-vaccine-doesnt-support-mandates/


REAL NEWS

This week has seen quite a bit of WTF, one might say, with “Dear Leader” “Chidin’ Biden” wagging his Bill Clinton FINGER OF NO SLEEPY NO CREEPY at the unwashed unvaxxed, but we’ve got better things to do, than to listen to that lying old coot.

Go sniff somebody else’s hair, Fake President! #FJB!!!

How about, instead, I drink a bit too much ginger ale, and tell you all how I believe Bill Gates sabotaged hydroxychloroquine? With the aid of some people who we all know VERY well? Have a seat! It’s quite a story.


How (IMO) Bill Gates Sabotaged HCQ

You all are the first to hear this story.

Let’s start off by listening to two Steves – Bannon and Hatfill – talking REALITY about OMICRON.

The “traveling vaccine”, as Dr. Hatfill calls it. This is short – 4 minutes.

LINK: https://rumble.com/vr9ej9-dr.-hatfill-boosters-wont-protect-you-from-omnicron-its-a-traveling-vaccine.html

Now Dr. Hatfill is an interesting guy. And MORE than just how he got SET UP as a PATSY on anthrax, by THEM.

He actually knows how an alcohol called hydroxychloroquine …..

…..was deep-sixed by Rick Bright, Janet Woodcock, and Tony Fauci. Details here:

LINK: https://drstevenhatfill.com/how-a-single-point-failure-destroyed-the-national-pandemic-plan/

So this guy understands the DUPLICITY – the SABOTAGE – the DECEIT – that actually goes on in science.

That duplicity is well-represented by the recent guilty verdicts against the former Chairman of the Harvard chemistry department, Dr. Charles Lieber. You know – that guy who was helping the ChiComs with their “Thousand Talents [OF SILVER] Program”, and hiding his take from the feds.

So wait – where was I? [….looks for beer glass….]

The thing is, I discovered even MORE about how HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE was knifed in the back by the enemies of truth.

Do you all remember that GREAT video on Vitamin D in preventing COVID-19?

Well, this Doc, Roger Seheult, has ANOTHER video that I was looking at, where he talks about the vaccines. And you have to be wondering “GREAT! Is he PRO or ANTI vaccine?”

I would say that he’s definitely PRO-VAX, but not BLINDLY so. More like – the vaccine is a tool, and he’s gonna use it. He treats patients – they’re young and dying – he’s very emotional – he wants to save them – and he believes the vaccine helps. So he tells people – get the vaccine.

He’s also marginally supportive of research on ivermectin, but he’s NOT gonna buck the system by advocating current use. He does NOT seem to have very much discernment about DECEIT and CORRUPTION in science, IMO. He’s a bit of an innocent, or even a chump, just like most people in science, who think the whole thing is a zone of trust, relatively free of deception and trickery.

Here is the video.

This is actually really good stuff, but if you’re looking for ammo against vaccines, this is not it. This is more like a “good doctor” trying to convince you – with mostly good data – but in some places weak data – to take the vaccine.

I can almost see it. ALMOST. But not quite. Not for me, certainly. My “medical advisor” who says “what in the HELL happened to contraindications and the VERBOTEN status of vaccination during pregnancy?” says “NO”.

HOWEVER, if you’re looking for where the pro-vax side is WEAK and DEFENSIVE, this is also a great video. You can see where they’re in trouble, and where they’re avoiding things, and where they’re grasping at straws. It’s very edgy scientific detective work, but I read these people pretty well.

More on THAT stuff in a full post to come.

This dude doesn’t want to lose his channel. Bottom line. But you can read past some of what is said.

So first, BEFORE we get to the BIG CRIME, a small sidebar.


Sidebar: Dr. Geert is Right Again

There is a slide in Doc Rogers’ video that PROVES ONE MORE TIME that Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is TOTALLY RIGHT.

Dr. Roger is showing this to us, to emphasize that younger and younger people are being hospitalized with COVID now – that pediatric cases are increasing, as Delta is taking over. This is part of why the DOCTORS are pushing to vaccinate kids. They’re getting more and more young adult, teen and pediatric cases in the hospitals. It’s an emotional strain on them to watch young people die.

But there is a problem.

MASS VACCINATION ITSELF IS CAUSING THIS PHENOMENON.

This is EXACTLY what Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche has been warning about. EXACTLY.

People have got to start listening to this dude.

Bill Gates’ CEO, who is advising Joe Biden, was an adjunct professor of epidemiology. Surely she can understand Geert. But she’s also on Pfizer’s board. That’s a problem. A real conflict of interest. Geert is an epidemiologist, and he is predicting all this stuff like clockwork. Maybe she should take a listen.

BUT – back to the story…..

Of the ASSHOLES who are pushing vaccination…..

By INTERFERING with science…..

By UNDERMINING science at the most basic levels.


So you see by that example – the slide of hospital age groups – what is so great about these sorts of videos is that these docs and experts will pop out the convincer graphs and references, and you can either screen capture like above, or GO TO THE SOURCE.

OR go somewhere ELSE they don’t want you to look.

So LATER in this Dr. Roger video, immediately after a rather prog-chauvinistic, hand-waving excuse why certain positive foreign studies of ivermectin should be dismissed (pure Fauci shade-throwing – go to 1:22:30), he mentions some American study – which was NOT LancetGate – that he says disproved hydroxychloroquine.

He just throws that in as an aside – but that’s BULLSHIT.

HCQ isn’t GREAT, but it works when given very early, it has saved MANY lives, and there is simply no doubt about it, at this point. So the good doctor is LOSING credibility with me right there. He’s following close, but he’s not following close enough, because he’s clearly trusting NIH, CDC, and Fauci.

BAD MOVE.

He’s a chump – and he can be fooled by flowing along with the similarly chumped mainstream of science. He’s inside the big deceit – he has no reference frame.

So what IS this study that “disproved” HCQ? Screenshot:

This thing was called the “Together COVID Trial”. And it’s still out there.

LINK: https://www.togethertrial.com/


These ad hoc COVID trials have been taking place in CANADA and BRAZIL – both of which make Suspicious Cat *immediately* purr “serious communist problems in both places” – and if you recall that French communist, Agnes Buzyn, who very stealthily took HCQ out of OTC status in France, you understand that this is significant.

Union communists and other embeds make GREAT footsoldiers. They’ve infiltrated medicine – they’ve infiltrated science – they’ve infiltrated universities, and hospitals – and they do the dirty jobs, where a spy would otherwise be required. My first exposure was in a university scandal, and that was just the beginning. I’ve had to deal with top-shelf university science commies on this very site. They tried to pull a really fast one on us, back at the beginning of COVID. They are dead serious in this big attempt to install WORLD COMMUNISM.

ANYWAY – back to the story.

At THAT point, I remembered something Bill Gates said on TV – the ONLY time he mentioned hydroxychloroquine. He said that “WE” would have to do studies on it.

As soon as I heard that, I rolled my eyes. Oh, yeah. FOX in the freakin’ hen-house.

“We have to STUDY the chickens.”

What a joke.

I have always felt that Gates was behind Surgisphere and LancetGate, the biggest hit job EVER on hydroxychloroquine, which was retracted, but I have yet to find evidence of his involvement – and I have looked several times.

HOWEVER, it turns out that Gates WAS behind the studies of hydroxychloroquine that killed people by overdoses, while giving it too late to save them.

LINK: https://oye.news/news/world-news/gates-funded-hydroxychloroquine-studies-are-designed-to-kill-people/

Yeah. That’s convenient. That combination of two crucial errors is diagnostic for a very professional scientific kill job, BTW. When you REALLY want it dead, wooden cross and silver bullet. A scientific double-tap.

See? You learn something every day.

So I’m thinking – well, maybe GATES is behind THESE STUDIES.

So then I go looking to see who is behind them, and this is what I see.

AH! So who’s that?

I went after “Rainwater” first, because I was thinking “Oh, yeah, baby – this sounds like the Tides Foundation” – that being the “charity” by which John Kerry and his rich wife send all kinds of seed money to left-wing operations.

But I check it out, and it’s just some Texan good old boy named Rainwater who left his fortune as a foundation, and at worst, the money got pointed to help Gates by some lefty kid or nephew. More likely an alumnus story or something like that.

NOPE. Not that one.

So what about “Fast Grants”?

GOLD MINE.

LINK: https://fastgrants.org/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/YQI2N

The way this org is set up, the people who choose the grant proposals get a gazillion begs, from which the operation can pick and choose. And there is nothing that can prevent a secret reach-around where the choosers or their puppets can SEND THEIR OWN PUPPET PROPOSALS INTO THE SCAM.

See how that works? Very slick.

So who funds the begs?


The grants are currently supported by: Arnold Ventures, The Audacious Project, The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, John Collison, Patrick Collison, Crankstart, Jack Dorsey, Kim and Scott Farquhar, Paul Graham, Reid Hoffman, Fiona McKean and Tobias Lütke, Yuri and Julia Milner, Elon Musk, Chris and Crystal Sacca, Schmidt Futures, and others. AWS has contributed compute credits.


OK. This is so easy, I’m gonna leave some of these names for everybody else. But this thing is so full of “usual suspects”, it should be a movie.

The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is Facebook, which incidentally had – until right after COVID was released – a BOARD MEMBER and DIRECTOR who happened to be the CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation – a lady named Dr. Susan Desmond-Hellman – who recently joined the board of Pfizer – and is also now one of Joe Biden’s presidential science advisers. I mentioned her above.

Hellman was appointed to the social media platform’s board in March 2013 and served as it Lead Independent Director from June 2015 until October 30th 2019, shortly before the first reported case of COVID-19.

https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/pfizer-board-member-is-former-facebook-director/

Yeah, that’s cozy.

Covered here previously.


The Vaccine-Powered Rona-Coaster

Is the Directed Evolution of Variants – Something Deeply Understandable to Joe Biden’s Science Advisors – Being Abused by the Corporate-Government-Academic Axis? Yeah, you remember that one! Several hat tips to Sundance on this one, too. It’s now becoming very clear that the mercenary Bill Gates getting involved with healthcare was one of the LAST …


So we have BILL GATES linked to, and MARK ZUCKERBERG and his CHICOM WIFEY funding, a study that tried to take down HCQ, and certainly seems to have influenced a lot of doctors against it.

SMART. Influence the docs, but do it quietly and behind the scenes – so there’s not so much outrage stirred up like LancetGate, which outraged the scientific community, and caused those two journal editors to squawk excuses in the “leaked” telephone conversation.

Less visibility, but more long-term effect. I really think this is why a lot of doctors “gave up” on hydroxy.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

Who else is behind Fast Grants?

CHOOMER RASPUTIN – a.k.a. Jack Dorsey, of Twitter.

It’s a small world at the top of the COUP, ain’t it?

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

Who’s the last person on that list? It’s not who you think.

“AWS has contributed compute credits.”

AWS is Amazon Web Services. That’s the CIA. So THEY’RE handling the computers in some way. They likely had INSIGHT into all the trials.

Does this all make sense now?

Good.


Now – I have not looked at this paper yet, which knifed HCQ in the back – nor have I looked at one of the Together Trial studies of ivermectin which they also did, which found no utility.

I’m sure I will look at these papers at some point, but I’m lazy, and it’s late, and my wife wants me to go to bed.

But with these tips, I’m certain that some intrepid HONEST scientists out there will now find obvious problems with the studies. Because they’re gonna be there, trust me.

This is the state of science. It is extraordinarily manipulable. And one of the BEST ways to manipulate it, is to FUND IT, and then have access and control that is hidden from the public.

That’s life in the big city.

Bottom line – I think this is one piece of the puzzle of how hydroxychloroquine was taken down. MULTIPLE HITS by Bill Gates. The man was NOT taking any chances.


Christmas Eve

I could let this post end with a story of science corruption, but that’s not how things end. That’s never how things end.

You see – there was this guy named Jesus, and he was all about bringing GOD (or G_D, if you prefer) to the low-lifes. The tax collectors. The prostitutes. The immigrants. The wise guys. People like me. People like the people I understand. People like us. People like all of us.

There are a lot of things I could talk about, relating to the Kingdom of Heaven, and how it’s a lot closer than people realize, but what’s funny about THAT, is that it’s a lot like some of the things we run into here, in our efforts to shine the light of Truth on things.

The small stuff is easy to write off, and the big stuff is protected by unbelievability.

But nevertheless, I won’t give up, trying to get others to see the beauty of it all.

That the big party really is there.

That we’re all invited.

And that it really is ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS.

I don’t approach Christianity like most people. I use the Bible to try to understand the nature of reality. I try to understand what Christ was telling us at a weird and deep level, because I’ve found that his “thought experiments”, if you will, were always consistent on many levels of interpretation, and they help me to see – with more beauty and less words – what he meant.

I trust now for different reasons than I trusted before, but I still trust.

Anyway, Christmas is a time to reflect on Christ. And interestingly, this year, it’s really working for me.

I hope I can help you to do the same!

Merry Christmas, friends and neighbors. Posters and lurkers. Believers and skeptics. Allies and enemies.

There’s room for you all at a certain place in this town. Or very close by.

W

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cthulhu

A Wilderness of Mirrors, as the saying goes…..

pgroup2

Our area is going to be frozen for five days, starting on Christmas. Lows in the low teens and highs in the mid twenties.

I have my camp stove ready in case the power goes out. I rigged it up to run off a five gallon propane bottle. Also have the propane bottle heater that mounts on top of a five gallon bottle for the garage.

Brrrr!!!! We ain’t used to this!!!

pgroup2

Of course care with ventilation. But that is overblown. Many homes around here have propane heating and propane kitchen stoves. Not to mention the millions of homes across the country that cook with natural gas.

And Merry Christmas to you and all the Qtreepers.

cthulhu

And they’re built to code, which should keep you safe. Impromptu heating arrangements are NOT safe.

pgroup2

Correction: they are neither safe nor unsafe. I think that I understand basic physics but I appreciate your concern.

Most likely the electricity will stay on and my next bill will be huge.

cthulhu

Uninterrupted electric service would be best, of course.

Thankfully, you don’t have to worry about a companion lizard freezing with you.

singingsoul1

Mine has gone up already so my gas.
My furnace is gas my stove is gas so is my fireplace.
We changed it from wood to gas many years ago because it is hard to get a chimney sweeper. I would have loved to put an oven in the fireplace .

cthulhu

I was so confident in our natural gas water heater and natural gas heating furnace that I moved them both out of the living area of the house (into the garage and attic, respectively).

Merry Christmas.

cthulhu

The real problem is that house-wrap houses with energy-star windows don’t leak enough. Without explicitly dealing with ventilation, it doesn’t take much more than a few candles to smother people (fortunately, smothering people with CO2 tends to have them feel discomfort, pant, and seek relief).

singingsoul1

A friend had her windows replaced and she felt dizzy this Summer. She figured out their was not enough fresh air in the house. After she opened the doors she felt better. I wonder if the was unable to open her windows would not put past her to have them totally shot.
She wanted her home energy conserving and buttoned up. I would die in a place like that I need air need to feel the cold breeze zip through my house at least for a couple of hours.
Found out two days ago my daughter is the same she sleeps with windows open in CT regardless how cold. Her husband packs 5 pillows around him and a big feathered.  😂 

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Gail Combs

CARPORT — nicely ventilated…

cthulhu

Second on that care with ventilation. One of the people working for me almost managed to be killed by carbon monoxide.

cthulhu

And that was with a permanent-install furnace in a rental property. Hadn’t had maintenance done for a decade or so, and every new tenant coming in figured it was safe…..until it wasn’t.

cthulhu

Parts of my employee were turning blue, and she was not auditioning for a dancing girl gig on Star Trek.

cthulhu

Remember to do all the other freeze stuff — like draining water lines or leaving them dripping. Make sure your car is gassed-up, and have food/water/blankets if you have to bail to a shelter. Charge up your cellphone and any reserve batteries. Have flashlights where you can find them in the dark.

Sylvia Avery

I just hope it holds off until Christmas Day. I’ve got too much to do yet…..

pgroup2

Accuweather says Saturday through Thursday. Highest temp is 26 degrees.

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Gail Combs

Three day forecast low 60s increasing to the 70s by Sunday…

singingsoul1

That is good news.

Gail Combs

I am certainly not complaining!!!

singingsoul1

We are 54 F but damp. Not complaining either

kalbokalbs

Iowa Colony (south of Houston), TX unseasonably warm. ~80.

singingsoul1

Wow must be nice hope you brought shorts 🙂

gil00

Cold! Just have a big storm last night. It looked like the Sierras got a ton of snow but yep you have something coming the next week. Western Montana getting ready for negative at night.

pgroup2

OMG! Not sure we could handle below zero temps.

gil00

Its supposed to get negative 7 or 14 and be all of 1 degree during the day. Lol. Thats beyond too cold.
Forecast actually said “bitterly cold .” No ty.
Not have ever been in snow or cold more than once Ill have to be careful wherever we move to with weather!

pgroup2

You could build two-thirds of the house underground (generally on a hillside) with only one wall exposed to the outside. Inside temp without artificial heating or cooling will be about 55 degrees year around.

You’ll need a humungous French drain around the house, though, and God only knows how much that would cost.

Gail Combs

Humidity would also be a major, major problem.

RF121

Big difference with humid cold vs dry cold.

holly

Lived with both and I’ll take dry cold over the humid.

Gail Combs

AMEN!

rayzorback

Forgive me as this is definitely off topic…..

It may need its own article?

I brought this subject up over a year ago….. and was seen as a Kook?

Most of us KNOW that “THEY” LIE to “us”….

About MANY things…..
The start of world war 1 and 2…..
9-11-01….
Legal/Judicial issues….
Moral/Spiritual issues…
when LIFE starts/ends…
Medical issues, i.e. Covid/Vaccines/Therapuetics/etc. …

There are Many sceptics about the “Moon Landing(s)”

It will take an HONEST and OPEN mind to consider the following:

(About 2 hr long video)

Please… All comments welcomed as THIS site has some of the most intelligent researchers and commenters of ANY site I have ever seen..

Thank you ALL for your HONEST considerations.

Linda

Yikes! I have a hard time finding 2 hours to watch a video. Can you give us some kind of hint about what it’s about?  😯 

pgroup2

Flat earth.

cthulhu

Actually, from Rayzor’s preamble, I thought it was faked moon landing…..which I tend to discount for a variety of reasons, but which does lead inevitably to:

THANK GOD that CGI wasn’t in common use before the moon landings.

cthulhu

Bill Shatner got up far enough to see the curve of earth — Captain Kirk wouldn’t lead you wrong, would he?

rayzorback

lol

rayzorback

 which sees absolutely nothing wrong with deceiving people about science”

Kind of like our MSM?
CDC and FDA?
Satanists and DemonRats (I repeat myself)
Lawyers?
I could go on 🙂

rayzorback

ok?

rayzorback

Then why no direct flights from Australia to South America?
All flight go into the northern “hemisphere” before going to their destination.

Easterly Spinning Earth would make flights faster or slower one way than the return flight? (They are virtually the same time)

Hmmmmm.

rayzorback

so…. more fuel use is better economics?

rayzorback

ok…. just looking for
nevermind.
I won’t bring it up again.

rayzorback

Also looked up the flights you mentioned….
ALL go to the US first. (No “direct” flights)

rayzorback

I find no “direct” flights

rayzorback

ok

singingsoul1

When I used to fly to Europe and South Africa I knew the earth is round when the sun came up. Also looking out the window one sees a curve not a flat line.

Steve would know 🙂  😂 

cthulhu

Time differences west-to-east in the US are more due to the jet stream than anything else.

rayzorback

wish FG&C would chime in.

Deplorable Patriot

So do I.

kalbokalbs

In time, I believe he will.

Gingersmom2009

Not true. The flight back from London or Rome to the east coast is ALWAYS an hour longer or more.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s due to the jet stream, actually, it blows west to east, giving the flight westward a headwind.

In fact, the earth’s spin is immaterial here; the plane is moving in the rotating earth’s reference frame, so it may get an added boost of several hundred miles going east, but the ground is moving that way too so it cancels out.

(As it happens, it does matter when launching satellites; an eastward launch close to the equator reduces delta v requirements–but that’s because orbital mechanics depends on an at-rest reference frame.)

kalbokalbs

Wondering.

Is the satellite launch still on schedule for tomorrow?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As a matter of fact, yes it is!! (I’m just waiting for it to be slipped at the last second.)

https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/countdown.html

18 hours, 33 minutes to go!

kalbokalbs

Thank you.

rayzorback

Time zones and longitudes stretch from pole to pole……
How is 1 hr the same length of time in alaska (shorter circular distance around the “Globe”) then at the equator (which is the broadest/longest path around the Earth)?

cthulhu

There used to be a bunch of joking fanfic that involved time travel by putting a stake in the north pole, then walking around it clockwise or anticlockwise. Each lap would be a day.

Valerie Curren

I read “stake” as “snake” & got quickly confused. Need more sleep–shock!

Merry Christmas Eve!

cthulhu

You could have read “stake” as “steak” and been even more confused.

Valerie Curren

no doubt ; 0

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Because what matters with respect to time of day is angular velocity around the axis, not linear velocity.

Alaska rotates 15 degrees in an hour, so does Panama. Both will turn a full circle in one day.

As it turns out that’s a bit of a simplification for clarity–which, as it happens, I take up in tomorrow’s daily.

rayzorback

“Alaska rotates 15 degrees in an hour, so does Panama. Both will turn a full circle in one day.”

Hmmm.

How is it possible to be looking towards the sun on Jan 1 and it be daytime…. (at noon)

And then (after 1 full turn each day) and the Earth rotates around the sun once each year,

to be daylight at noon on June 1?

Should it not be dark on June 1 as the Earth is now 180 degrees into its solar revolution and rotating a full circle every day?

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ah, you’ve touched on the simplification I made. Good show!

In fact, in one twenty four hour day, the earth rotates almost 361 degrees, to compensate. The true rotational period of the earth with respect to the fixed stars is 23 hours, 56 minutes, four and a fraction seconds long. (This is called the “sidereal day.”) But with respect to the sun, which is how we define time of day, it’s 24 hours. The earth has moved almost a degree in its path around the sun, it must rotate an extra degree to bring the sun back to overhead; that takes almost four additional minutes.

Astronomers use the sidereal day and sidereal time; they can basically look at their sidereal clock and see which constellations should be “up” at any given time. But that clock could be different from their wristwatch by up to twelve hours either way.

Indeed if you step outside on January first at night, and note which constellations are visible shortly after sunset, you WILL see a totally different set of constellations than you would on July 1st. But the sun, from our point of view on Earth, appears to be moving against the constellations.

But don’t confuse the sidereal day with the solar day.

I take this up in tomorrow’s daily, so your timing in bringing all this up is fortuitous.

rayzorback

Just looking for Truth….. That is all.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ironically, you can make sense of what I said also assuming a stationary Earth, with the stars rotating around it every 23h56m4+s and the sun moving against those stars just under a degree per day, OR with the earth orbiting the sun as I described in my last reply. It’s mathematically equivalent and astronomers sometimes pretend the stationary Earth because it’s easier to visualize and calculate. Sometimes, though, doing so doesn’t work…and they have to understand when that is.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I literally just dealt with all of this writing tomorrow’s daily. Timing was fortuitous.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Now that is a Ptolemaic image, right there.

barkerjim

Can sing along, but don’t have the words.

cthulhu

A lot of the geometric “proofs” are simply using plane geometry and waving away any discrepancies.

rayzorback

so…. “Plane Geometry” is Fake?

cthulhu

No, plane geometry doesn’t work on curved surfaces. If you inflate a balloon, mark three points on it, then draw a triangle with those three points…..the sum of its interior angles will be more than 180 degrees.

rayzorback

I understand that….
slice a plane through the center of the Earth….
That gives us a “Plane”…(with a round edge)
Around the circumference, given the “scientists” numbers of the Earth’s size…..
It is impossible to see something 40 miles away. (and even less distance)

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rayzorback

Flat earth proofs

cthulhu

Flat earth is a tough one to support. Too many people have been far enough up to actually see the curve. The curve was actually measured about 2,000 years ago — https://greekreporter.com/2021/07/10/eratosthenes-earth-circumference-ancient-greece/ . We have satellites up the wazoo, and we practically have commuter flights to the ISS. It’d also be tough to run GPS on a flat earth, in that the GPS satellites would eventually fall off the edge.

rayzorback

What about getting to the “TRUTH”?

rayzorback

How long ago did you look into this theory?
Case closed?
Nothing new under the sun?

rayzorback

so you didn’t bother to watch either video either?

rayzorback

ok

rayzorback

that’s how I research too.
I Quit when I perceive a lie.

rayzorback

ok….. I understand

cthulhu

You started out with “I’ve got this thing, how valid is it?” and now you are openly supporting it in the face of evidence against it. When and how did you become a supporter?

rayzorback

Supporter?…. just looking for TRUTH and nobody yet will even watch the videos?

rayzorback

Just watch the video……. then please comment

cthulhu

When dividing large parcels, surveyors have a choice of either maintaining the parcels as rectangles (and adding in kludges to adjust), or laying out the parcels as portions of a sphere.

rayzorback

lol….. I work with and for surveyors…
and have for over 30 years.
Not one of them try to account for spherical considerations. Not ONE.

cthulhu

If your surveyors are measuring borders between provinces or states, ask them specifically about the subject.

If your surveyors are doing 6500 square foot plats in a subdivision, they probably can ignore the spherical distortions — and, whenever you can ignore a problem, odds are you will.

rayzorback

This question has come up measuring counties across the state…
More issues with “Rod and Chain” conversions than Spherical ones.

cthulhu

https://faculty.kfupm.edu.sa/CE/hawahab/WEBPAGE/CE260/NOTES/1CE260%20CH%20%201.pdf

Note end of page 2 and beginning of page 3.

This is (literally) Chapter 1 of Surveying.

rayzorback

I work with this stuff all day, every day (at work)

rayzorback

Not “trolling”….. Looking for TRUTH (and Truth seekers)…… Thats all.
Can’t find anyone to watch the videos though.

cthulhu

1.2 TYPES OF SURVEYING
There are two types of surveying:

Plane surveying: Earth surface is considered a plane of x-y dimensions.

– Z-dimension (height) referenced to the mass spherical surface of the earth (Mean Sea Level).

– Most engineering and property survey are plane survey

correction to curvature is made for long strips (e.g. Highway).

rayzorback

I understand these things…. very well.
If you don’t want to spend a little time on the videos….. that’s fine.

cthulhu

I don’t think you understand them as well as you think you do…..and I don’t think you understand how much much people will avoid wasting their time with these videos.

People have given your arguments plenty of attention. Take it with gratitude and withdraw, or continue to support them.

rayzorback

I did NOT “support” anything…..

But I will withdraw.
Forgive me.

rayzorback

Just start watching…..
If they make sense…. continue on

If you are firmly brainwashed by TPTB…… skip it

rayzorback

Quite possible 🙂

cthulhu

There is too much evidence that the earth is roughly an oblate spheroid with local texture. It comes from space observations, ground observations, observations at sea, and shadows 2000 years ago. It has been confirmed time and again, and never refuted. It wasn’t invented within the last 100 years to screw the middle class in favor of the Cabal.

rayzorback

Have you watched ANY of the posted videos?

cthulhu

Nope. And have no intention of doing so. It takes roughly an order of magnitude more effort to debug a snare than construct one, and I don’t have the time.

rayzorback

so be it….. Takes to much time to find the “Truth”?

rayzorback

Are you saying that I am constructing a “snare”?

cthulhu

You are bringing what you were given. It is a snare. You are right to be skeptical of official explanations, but you should be ridding yourself of this snare through straightforward observations.

rayzorback

straightforward observation is what the videos are about….. I wish you would watch one or both.

cthulhu

You’ve moved the goalposts — you don’t want honest information anymore, you want views. Why?

rayzorback

I didn’t move anything.
“views” is where the questions come from.
Who are you to proclaim that I don’t want HONEST answers?
That is all that I have asked for.

Don’t watch if it so offensive to your knowledge.

barkerjim

Get a telescope, observe the planets.

scott467

I don’t understand why the narrator keeps going on about the curvature of the earth, as if the earth is perfectly or consistently round, or as if the curvature would ever be observable, and therefore a material consideration, from ground zero (the perspective of the observer).

For example, at 4:17 he says:

………………………..
“10. The London and Northwestern railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad’s highest point, midway at Birmingham Station, is only 240 feet above sea level.

If the world were actually a globe however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc, with the center point at Birmingham, raised over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.”
………………………..

It seems like the narrator is being intentionally obtuse.

You’re not building the railroad starting from ground-zero to an imaginary point in space according to a curvature of the earth calculation, you’re building the railroad to the next section of track. Maybe that’s a hundred yards per section. There is no curvature worth measuring over a hundred yards, and even if there was, there wouldn’t be at 50 feet, or 10 feet, or wherever you drive the next railroad spike.

So imagine a giant beach ball to represent the earth, and a miniature toy train track that you glue onto the beach ball. If you could actually do it to something approximating scale, which would require a very tiny train track (and a really big beach ball), every time you connect one piece of track to the next, it would appear flat at that point of contact/connection, from the perspective of a miniature person at ground-zero connecting the track.

The curvature would only be visible from great distance (from space, if the beach ball and train track model were to scale), and the curvature between each section of connected track would be so minute as to be unnoticeable.

And that’s with an actual more-or-less perfect sphere (a beach ball).

The earth is not a perfect sphere, and even if it was, the surface is irregular.

The narrator appears to assume that the surface of the earth is smooth and consistent, when it actually has hills and valleys and slopes and all sorts of elevation changes from any particular point to any other point.

So long as the ground is level from one section of the railroad track to the next, that’s what matters. The curvature of the earth seems irrelevant at the micro scale, unless you are building based on the equation (curving 8 inches per mile squared) instead of based on the actual terrain under your feet.

If you are building based on the equation, then you may end up with the absurd result of an arc raised over a mile above the earth. You would still have to support that arc though, and that support would have to be anchored somewhere to the ground below, which the narrator doesn’t mention, among other things.

I only watched the first 5 minutes or so, but it seems like the ‘anomaly problem’ is being created by alternating between the ‘distant observer’ perspective and the ‘ground zero’ or “you are here” perspective, and purposely confusing the two in order to present an apparent anomaly.

***My understanding (or lack thereof, and attempt to articulate the same) could be completely wrong, I am not an engineer and I don’t even play one on TV. No purchase necessary, void where prohibited by law, please check with a qualified tax professional before making investment decisions, never stand on the top step of a step ladder, yada, yada, yada… 😁

rayzorback

“I only watched the first 5 minutes or so”
Good hard look at the info I see?

scott467

“Good hard look at the info I see?”

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Pretty hard, yeah, sounded like the narrator was just reading a list, and that’s not an easy kind of presentation to sit through. Five minutes flew by like it was an hour 😁

I noticed the title of the video was “200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball”, and by the time he got to point number 1, I had guessed he was just going to read 200 points. By the time he arrived at point number 10, I was pretty confident it wasn’t going to get any better.

If you’re going to make 200 points about something, you probably want to knock the audience’s socks off with the first few, to really get them thinking, because if you save your best point for last, they’re all going to be in a coma by then.

It would be better IMO to take the best, strongest 3 or 4 points, the ones that show the narrator’s position in the best possible light, and/or the ones that are hardest for the opposition to refute, and present them in a way that is compelling and can withstand critical scrutiny.

But that also risks the possibility of being refuted.

Very few people will sit though a 200 point dry recitation and then try to refute it. That doesn’t mean it’s irrefutable, it just means it isn’t presented in a way that lends itself to engagement, scrutiny or challenge.

Whether that was by design or not, the effect is the same.

rayzorback

ok

Aubergine

Oh, for God’s sake.

I can KNOW something is bullshit without devoting hours of my valuable life to it.

Good grief. Five minutes was enough.

pgroup2

One bite of a BS sandwich is all it takes. No need for any more bites.

rayzorback

Sight over distance appears to Disprove spherical earth.
Many examples in the video(s).

rayzorback

No kidding that end to end placement of 20’+/- tracks will not show much.
Start elevation vs end elevation would have a LOT higher elevation in the middle if the Earth was curved.

rayzorback

Here is one that is only 1 hr long:

I am only seeking TRUTH.

cthulhu

Columbus set out westward in order to “shortcut” the way to the spices and riches of southeast Asia. Part of this was that he knew — like every other ship captain knew — that the world was curved. The other part was that he found some crackpot that botched the measurement of the curve and understated the circumference of the earth by about a third (Eratosthenes’ estimate was much, much closer).

rayzorback

“he knew — like every other ship captain knew — that the world was curved”

Oh really? He (They) “Knew”
Like “WE” “Know”?

cthulhu

They knew that they could signal several miles further in clear air if both ships ran their signalmen up their masts.

rayzorback

Human eye perspective?

Aubergine

Well, you won’t find it watching these videos.

pgroup2

[snort; giggle]

cthulhu

I wanted to circle back and plant a stake.

With the non-stop lies, bullshit, and gaslighting of the last hundred years, there is very little reason to believe ANYTHING put forth by TPTB in those last hundred years. There is nothing wrong with questioning things — it’s quite laudable.

rayzorback

“They”… do NOT “promote” ….”Flat Earth”….
They censor and ridicule the concept.
Like much else around us.

Aubergine

You would do well to read and re-read the two comments from Wolf to this comment of yours.

rayzorback

Thank you.

cthulhu

You’re welcome. [I don’t know where Wolf was riffing.]

Valerie Curren

What was your video about? It’s showing as a broken link for me.

Merry Christmas Eve 🙂

RF121

Wolf.

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kalbokalbs

Leaders are not always in the lead.

But they ARE leading.

AND, in doing so, nurturing ALL, WHILE training future leaders.

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singingsoul1

Wolf is a good leader here at the Q tree.
Thank you RF121
Merry Christmas to you and yours 🙂

Gail Combs

The three in front are also the most likely to be the wisest.

In horse herds it is a wise dominant mare who leads. The stallion is the last.

Interesting article on the dynamics of wild horse herds (It is short)
https://www.successful-horse-training-and-care.com/who-is-the-leader-of-horse-herd.html

I will add many horsemen do not like to deal with mares and prefer castrated males. I always liked my mares despite the ‘attitude’ problem.

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Linda

Wonderful post, Wolf. And great detective work! I really despise these people.

cthulhu

They had to go all-out on HCQ because the French had botched their quash so badly.

Gail Combs

AMEN!

Gingersmom2009

Speaking of Raoult . . . at the very start of this mess, Didier Raoult was listed as #1 in the world in the “infectious diseases” category on expertscape.

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marymorse

And then there’s this…March 30, 2020:

https://www.geekwire.com/2020/univ-washington-begins-study-anti-malaria-drug-covid-19-boost-gates-foundation/

…”UW physicians are already using hydroxychloroquine to treat patients who have been diagnosed with COVID-19, but outside the setting of a clinical trial.

On Sunday, the Food and Drug Administration officially authorized the emergency use of both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for use against COVID-19. To boost supplies for hospital treatments and clinical trials, the Department of Health and Human Services accepted donations of 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine from Sandoz, a division of Novartis, and 1 million doses of chloroquine from Bayer Pharmaceuticals.”…

…”The UW-NYU team is starting to enroll 2,000 participants who are close contacts of persons with confirmed or pending COVID-19 diagnoses. Participants must live in Western Washington or New York, and must be referred by health care providers.”…

…”The $9.5 million clinical trial is one of three studies receiving grants from the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator, a $125 million initiative launched by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, and Mastercard to speed the development and distribution of therapies for COVID-19.”

marymorse
marymorse

This all seems so rigged, and based upon who you/your doctor knows.

(Did you know that Ivermectin is prescribed as an approved treatment for severe scabies, and it’s prescribed for the entire household?)

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marymorse

Blue state secrets.

Wowohwow1528

… Gates ….

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singingsoul1

I like Zelenko and think he is a very good person and very good doctor who loves humanity.

wheatietoo

𝕎𝕚𝕤𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕖𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪𝕠𝕟𝕖 𝕒 𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕪 𝕄𝔼ℝℝ𝕐 ℂℍℝ𝕀𝕊𝕋𝕄𝔸𝕊!
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http://christmasgiftideaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Merry_Christmas_animated_GIF.gif

smiley2

…and a Merry Christmas to you, Wolf !  🎅 

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thanks for running a tight ship !
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 😉  💖 

holly

Merry Christmas Wheatie! 🎄💕

scott467

Merry Christmas Wheatie!

I hope you are feeling better 👍🙂

smiley2

Merry Merry, wheatie !  🐾  🐱  🌟  🐲  🐧  🌴 

Dora

Merry Christmas and a Wonderful and Very Happy New Year!

kalbokalbs

Beautiful Wheatie. Reminiscent of the tree houses of our recent past. Always warm and comfy. Merry Christmas.

RDS

wheatietoo
Thank you so much!
Merry Christmas, Peace and Good Energy to all!  🙂 

Wowohwow1528

Beautiful Wheatie .. Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 .. and a blessed one. 😊🤚❤️🎄

Linda

Wheatie, if you see this, I hope you’ll come post and let us know that you’re okay. We’re very worried about you and miss you a lot!

kalbokalbs

Wheatie,

THIS post of yours IS vintage wonderful Wheatie. Warm, friendly, inviting, neighborly…

Miss ya!

  :wpds_razz: 

Gail Combs

Please stop by and say hello when you can. We worry about you.
Gail

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holly

Republicans Court Manchin to Join GOP Over Deepening Rift With White House

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) have made overt attempts recently to convince Manchin to become a Republican. If Manchin were to make the move, the GOP would take over as the majority party in the Senate.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/republicans-court-manchin-to-join-gop-over-deepening-rift-with-white-house

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scott467

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) have made overt attempts recently to convince Manchin to become a Republican.

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If only Cornyn and McConnell weren’t crooks, I’d feel a lot better about that 😂

If Manchin switches parties, no doubt it will be good for McConnell and Cornyn, but the swamp won’t be one millimeter less deep.

holly

Right, just more of the same.

ROBERT BAKER

Well it would theoretically (and I say that with great trepidation) act as a brake against some of the egregious activities of the House. Even crooks want things done their way.

smiley2

 🌟  Christmas Eve  🌟  Cheers  🎄 

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 👉  and….always remember this scientific fact…
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smiley2

…the sordid truth…

LOL

GA/FL

Snort – love it!

Merry 🎄 Christmas, Smiley!!!

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smiley2

thanks !

Merry Christmas to you, as well, GA/FL.  💝  🐱 

singingsoul1

 😂  My cats would enjoy that !

Barb Meier

Gosh, I love this! Thanks Smiley2!!

smiley2

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Andrew Wyeth

 🎄 Merry Christmas  🎄 

singingsoul1

 🌲 Marry Christmas to all people of good will !!! 🌲 

Wowohwow1528

Amen Singing .. 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼

singingsoul1

🙂

Dora
Deplorable Patriot

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kalbokalbs

^^^ Sad truth. Tempted to send to family in Californistan.

Well educated “idjit” brother. Christmas letter bragged about transition from Sunday dinner outside to Sunday dinner inside, AFTER ALL adults injected.

Same fool whose family Christmas picture last year, was complete with his and his three children’s families social distanced from each other. Only thing missing was Biden’s rally circles.

Them idjits, everyone of them college educated, including several with advanced degrees.

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singingsoul1

Seems some of us have brothers like that  😅 

pgroup2

Some of us have disowned siblings like that.  😠 

singingsoul1

Yes some do. This brother disowned his other brother.
I am the peacemaker between my brothers even thought we have different opinions, because we are all connected if we like it or not.

Gail Combs

Right there with you PGroup2.

kalbokalbs

We typically swap an email at Thanksgiving and another at Christmas. Have seen them once in the past ~20 years. Regretted attending that venue, which I left quite early.

Beyond blood line, nothing in common. I simply don’t fit in with liberals. They figure I’m a hard core red neck conservative.

Good bad or indifferent, goes for all five siblings.

scott467

“…family Christmas picture last year, was complete with his and his three children’s families social distanced from each other.”

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The virtue signal is strong in that one… 👍 😁

Gail Combs

WIMPS or Beta males in 2020…

Dora
Deplorable Patriot

There’s a lot of that going on. A lot of defiance on this one.

Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot

The pushback is gaining steam, IMO.

ROBERT BAKER

It is true that eventually time makes differences of opinion, style, and interpretation moot. God seems to use two successful approaches to disruptions in His will. One is to take action and end the disruption. Two is to sic Time on the miscreants.

Dora

The stringent new measures announced by the D.C. Department of Health are set to take effect just a few days before the 2022 National March for Life on January 21, and the Defeat the Mandates March in D.C. on January 23.

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dc-announces-vaccine-passport-system-that-will-take-effect-just-days-before-2022-march-for-life/?utm_source=featured&utm_campaign=usa

Deplorable Patriot

We’ll see.

Wowohwow1528

They can stuff it

trumpismine

Kids at Christmas
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Merry Christmas Patriots!
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kalbokalbs

The PUB IS OPEN! Followed by a QUICK scroll down. As with everyone, miss Grandma greatly. Wishing her a Merry Christmas with family

Wolf, a superb pub reopening. Great info. Have, I think three videos opened and partially watched. Later today on that.

Merry Christmas Wolf. Appreciate everything!

Dora

smiley2

Merry Christmas, Dora ! 

singingsoul1

Dora thank you love the card 🙂
Merry Christmas to you and your family .

Wowohwow1528

Beautiful Dora, Merry Christmas .. 🎁🎄 ..

❤️

GA/FL

Blessed and Merry 🎄 Christmas, Miss Duchess!

smiley2

Merry CHRISTmas, duchess !

singingsoul1

Thank you 🙂
Merry Christmas !

Wowohwow1528

🙏🏼Amen Duchess 🙏🏼 …Christmas Blessings to you and your loved ones .. ❤️🎄❤️ ..

duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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Deplorable Patriot

I published this early. It was supposed to be available late this evening, but that sort of defeats the purpose of the post.

https://www.theqtree.com/2021/12/24/lessons-and-carols-2021/

Valerie Curren

Thanks, DP. Merry Christmas Eve!

Wowohwow1528

Thank you DP …🤗❤️🤗 ..🎄🎁🎁🎄 .. you sweetheart you

Dora

BOOM – Senator Sinema Stops Biden’s Plan To Nationalize Federal Election Laws; Angering Fellow Dems
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As 2022 approaches, Democrats are privately and publicly expressing their frustration with two of their U.S. Senators who continue to back crucial legislation from passing.
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https://trendingpolitics.com/kyrsten-sinema-wrecks-bidens-hopes-of-destroying-federal-election-integrity-laws-democrats-panic-ethom/

Deplorable Patriot

This is a good thing, that’s for sure.

kalbokalbs

Sinema AND Manchin have STEPPED UP big time for America.

Thankful for both of them.

TradeBait2

So are we saying they are the Judas Goats of the Dems?

How can that be that the GOP might have a couple of DINO’s who derail the worst of the worst on call?

kalbokalbs

Could be their greed does not exceed their appreciation for the Constitution.

Deplorable Patriot

Hence the main problem in politics.

kalbokalbs

Gosh, can I be the one to pick D-Rats that run for office. Gonna be a mighty short list, if any qualify. 🙂

para59r

Fatal flaw in his plan is no one has been charged with Insurrection but somehow they think they can stop Congressmen from being in the Congress. Meanwhile the lefties are lapping it up. Question is how many Republicans are intimidated by this?

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para59r

All that said, we should spur them on and tell them Ray Epps and other key figures known but yet to be sought by the FBI are the key that will prove Insurrection and that the DOJ must have Epps arrested and made to sing.

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singingsoul1

Who does the approving ? The way I see it American people approve not Chuck Callesto.
Who is that guy anyway ?

pgroup2

Looks like Elias got a little advance notice that he’s on Durham’s naughty list. So he puts out some BS to make it look like he’s being picked on when he gets indicted.

Typical Perkins Coie attorney tactic.

Please

Almost sounds like a ‘Bee’ headline or a JP video title …

Gail Combs

Steve Bannon mentioned this. Elias is going to use LAWFARE to go after any REPUBLICAN he does not approve.

pgroup2

That’s his cover story. Truth is that he uses lawfare first and foremost to try to protect his sorry ass. Don’t bother asking me if I’m impressed by his criminal skills — I could not care less.

When this piece of filthy pond scum gets perp walked, I will be cheering.

Gail Combs

I will be right next to you. That whole Lawfare group and a heck of a lot more lawyers and judges should do many many years breaking rock in prison for rebuilding our roads.

kalbokalbs

Road Gang in Louisiana or Mississippi.

singularzoe

So glad you beat delta, Wolf. Happy Christmas eve, everyone.

Deplorable Patriot

Food for thought. Although, I usually get here after the damage is done.

kalbokalbs

All too often I leap, too soon.

smiley2

Steve Bannon : WAR On The UNVAXXED Is About To Commence

video at the link…

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/steve-bannon-war-unvaxxd-about-commence?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=369

12/23

stay jolly

smiley2
Deplorable Patriot

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Deplorable Patriot

Columbia in Boone County, aka Tiger Town where the university is. Figures.
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singingsoul1

My granddaughter is in a University that required the jab for everyone.
She told her mother that everyone has been sick all semester but no one had covid.
I wonder if their natural immunity has been compromised that they all got the cold or whatever they had. She came home and slept for two days. Finally she feels better.

Gail Combs

“…I wonder if their natural immunity has been compromised …”

That seems to be a problem with the clot shot. If you wish, I can scrounge up the video.

singingsoul1

They figure it out I left breadcrumbs 🙂
Not necessary it is Christmas Eve.
Tonight is the most important for us .
Wish we had snow but not happening

Gail Combs

Have a very Merry Christmas Singing. 🌲😇

kalbokalbs

That’s hilarious.

Gail Combs

OH, I want to make copies of that sign to put up in all the various counties here in NC.

para59r

This story provides more sauce to the white people being denied monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) for CV treatment.

https://alphanews.org/minnesota-gives-non-white-patients-preferential-access-to-life-saving-covid-treatment/

para59r

barkerjim
barkerjim
Wowohwow1528

Anyway, Christmas is a time to reflect on Christ. Yes the Way the Truth and the Life, what amazing and humbling gift to mankind, one size fits ALL … Hallelujah what a Savior.

Perfect Christmas Eve open W0lf 🐺 .. 🎄 .. thank you, Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 to you and your family and God bless you abundantly you are an awesome gift and blessing to everyone here.

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Gingersmom2009

I just in the last couple of days discovered David Suchet’s Bible readings. I love this guy — we’ve watched all the Poirots.

singingsoul1

Very nice Merry Christmas

Wowohwow1528

Have a blessed Christmas everyone and Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 🎁🎄🎁🎄🎁🎄, God Bless us everyone .. 🙂🤚❤️😜

https://www.ltw.org/read/my-devotional/2021/12/the-shalom-of-the-prince-of-peace

https://www.intouch.org/read/daily-devotions

It Came Upon a Midnight Clear[Verse 1]
It came upon the midnight clear
That glorious song of old
From angels bending near the earth
To touch their harps of gold
“Peace on the Earth, good will to men
From hea’en’s all gracious King.”
The world in solemn stillness lay
To hear the angels sing
[Verse 2]
Still through the cloven skies they come
With peaceful wings unfurled
And still their hea’enly music floats
O’er all the weary world
Above its sad and lowly plains
They bend on hov’ring wind
And ever o’er its Babel sounds
The blessed angels sing

https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/9-6.htm

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Wowohwow1528

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Wowohwow1528

H/T to Bakocarl about the biblical history of Christ’s birth, it’s beautiful and perfect and make more sense the a random stable, it was intentional as written/foretold on the Old Testament .. ❤️ ..

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slowcreekno

Merry Christmas to everyone in the Tree!

singingsoul1

Amen

Merry Chrsitmas

Gail Combs

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
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singingsoul1

Marry Christmas Gail.
Love the Pony and Horse all decked out in their best. 🙂

Gail Combs

Their look alikes are headed for a lucky child to wish him a merry Christmas tommorrow.

(I have to do a bit more work on the costumes.)

singingsoul1

They look adorable costume looks good to me 🙂

Gail Combs

Those are not my guys but similar. I am using the Santa hat on my white pony and antlers on the brown.

singingsoul1

That seems much fun 🙂

Gail Combs

It is. That is why we have not retired. Actually I am getting more and more into the costumes since it is such fun.

singingsoul1

I can imagine you have a good thing going 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

It’s too big for a banner, but here’s an idea.
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Wowohwow1528

Just add this to the beginning of the “fjb” … ”May 800 pound Gorilla 🦍 …”

Wowohwow1528

… this one .. ⏬ .. his name is Justice ..😊🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 …

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pgroup2

Amazing that a gorilla can give a look that says, ‘do I look stupid to you? WTF do you think you’re doing?’

kalbokalbs

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pgroup2

Can she run from a jail cell? Asking for a friend.

cthulhu

You could rescale it to a smaller size in GIMP.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or alternative add more black to the ends so it fits the “banner rectangle” better.

Wowohwow1528

Just for the heck of it and 🥃🍸🍺🍻🍹🧉🥂🍾🧊🧊🥂🧊🥃 .. GMT .. God bless you and have a Blessed, Merry Christmas 🎄

Where Everybody Knows Your Name (Cheers Theme) LyricsMaking your way in the world today takes everything you’ve got.
Taking a break from all your worries sure would help a lot.

Wouldn’t you like to get away?

All those nights when your’ve got no lights, the check is in the mail.
And your little angel hung the cat up by it’s tail.

And your third fiancй didn’t show!

Sometimes you wanna go..

Where everybody knows your name
And they’re always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
The troubles are all the same.
You wanna be where everybody knows your name

You roll out of bed, mr. Coffee is dead, the morning’s looking bright
And your shrink ran off to Europe, and didn’t even write.

Be glad there’s one place in the world

Where everybody knows your name
And they’re always glad you came.
You wanna go where people know,
People are all the same.
You wanna go where everybody knows your name.

[Repeat]
Where everybody knows your name.
And they’re always glad you came. 

… 😉👍🎄W0lf🎄 ..

singularzoe

In case my comment earlier didn’t post, for those believers who doubt the earth is aspherical, Isaiah 40:22 should settle that argument, and it’s from the Creator of spheres and everything else in the creation. Happy and blessed Christmas to all at the tree.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“It is he who sites above the circle of the earth…” (NRSV, but both the KJV and NIV also say “circle”)

This one causes confusion…it says “circle” but a circle is not a sphere; if anything it is a disk. On the other hand, it could be a difficulty with translation or our knowledge of ancient Hebrew.

If Isaiah actually did say the earth is flat, Isaiah was wrong. Of course, he could have been speaking metaphorically, in which case, it’s poetic license

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para59r

He says circle but some say he says vault. Either way quite possible for him to think that in the 8-7th Century BC as Phoenicians had been sailing extensively as far back as the 15th Century BC. Strabo 64 BC believes that Homer alluded to a spherical earth back in 7-8th Century. Parmandies and Empedocles, pre Socratic philosophers of 5-6th Century BC also expressed knowledge of such, both of them of Phocean stalk (Ancient Greek sailors). From whence later came Euthymenes and Pytheas, 4th Century BC. The first taking a trip down the coast of Africa (but he wasn’t the first, Egypt commissioned some Phoenicians who made it to the tip of Africa in 600BC and came up the other side, I believe). The second went North and went as far as reaching Artic ice. He had a commission to find the source of the tin (which he did at Cornwall) that was being traded over land from the British Isles but he came prepared for much more, taking all kinds of measurements as he went and is believed to have gone to GreenLand (Thule) as well as traveling extensively in the Baltic Sea.

Anyway, point being sailors talk, Philosophers listen, and whatever may of been debated and written may well of been lost. Plenty of time for them to have figured it all out and then for others to have forgotten about it.

Leaves you a link with Pytheas as his is the most documented journey though even Christopher Columbus didn’t quite trust his stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pytheas

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Gail Combs

I looked at the Sundance Candice Owens clip of Trump on vaccines. (I wish she had actually let him talk!)

A point to keep in mind. His top adviser who stated with him through the four years Peter, Navvaro said Trump approached him BECAUSE of his books on the threat of China.

The Coming China Wars: Where They Will Be Fought And How They Can Be Won
October 2006by Peter Navarro

Death by China: Confronting the Dragon – A Global Call to Action May 2011by Peter Navarro and Greg Autry

Steven Bannon is also very much all about China as our enemy.

So HOW did POTUS treat Xi Jinping… LAVISHLY WITH MUCH PRAISE

With that in mind listen to Praying Medic 10 minutes:

https://prayingmedic.com/2021/11/22/why-does-president-trump-support-vaccines/

Another guy who is weird and a bit far out, start at 30 minutes. He goes into a lot more depth.

At the beginning he also talks of Kondratieff Wave (economics), and twards the end a cancer (tumor ) cure and Fenbendazole aka Safeguard wormer. <— I have not research that at all.

singingsoul1

This makes sense 🙂 Trump is smart and so is this guy who figured it out 🙂

barkerjim

Ahhh, they changed the definition of vaccine, so that now, monoclonal antibodies, HCQ, and probably Ivermectin could be considered vaccines. This guy is goofy, but does make sense.

Gail Combs

Yes he is goofy but he does bring interesting ideas to the table. Also the FDA vaccine definition is an injectable, however we do not know how POTUS is using the word.

Also if you take it that ‘Vaccine is Good’ actually means I kept the SOBs from closing down the economy for 10 years, then yeah the vaccine is ‘good.’

para59r

Yes, the economy was the major focus of his thinking. Loose that, loose all.

Gail Combs

Nicely written and logical.

TradeBait2

Prayers by kiddos and fans for a white Christmas in East TN fell on deaf ears it appears. Never seen this before. We will be in the mid 60’s from Christmas into New Year’s Day. Being from the no snow is a good snow camp, I am quite content.

Absolutely great dig, Wolf. Thank you for your efforts. With age comes wisdom if we pay attention and want it. Your finish today is wise.

Merry Christmas to all.

Gail Combs

This is a typical pattern for a quiet sun. Unseasonably hot & humid followed by very very cold and MAJOR SNOW where the two weather zones clash.

Shocking Polar Vortex From 20,000 Years Ago

These are from 2014 — NASA papers:

Solar Wind Loses Power, Hits 50-year Low

NASA:Quiet Sun Means Cooling of Earth’s Upper Atmosphere

…..Solar radiation at 130–175 nm (Schumann-Runge continuum) is completely absorbed in the thermosphere. Over activity cycles 21–23, solar radiative flux in this spectral range varied by about 10–15% (Figure 5a), i.e., by more than a factor of 100 more than solar cycle variations in the solar total energy flux (total solar irradiance). In the oxygen Schumann-Runge bands (175–200 nm) and Herzberg continuum (200–242 nm), important for photochemical ozone production and destruction in the stratosphere and mesosphere, solar irradiance varied on average by about 5–8% (Figure 5b)…

http://www.mps.mpg.de/projects/sun-climate/data.html

(This info has been completely changed BTW even in the Wayback ) The author, Natalie Krivova works for Max Planck Institute AND The Aspen Global Change Institute

Also see:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2009JD012375/pdf

http://www.oxidationsystems.com/products/ozone_formation.GIF

ΔUV(1)(2) ===> ΔOzone (3) ===> ΔStratospheric Temperature(4) ===> Δtropopause height(4) + Δ wind strength of jets(5) and motion**(6) + Δstrength of the stratospheric vortex (7)(8) + ΔOzone hole (9)

(Δ = Changes in)
(**Blocking phenomenon = Loopy jets)  

I will leave out the rest of the references unless someone wants them.

Linda

We’re getting a week of snow and very cold weather here. But that’s not really unusual. It’s just happening all of a sudden after some torrential rains.

Gail Combs

Wolfie brought up the fact that regeneron does not work on Omicron.

Fox News: New monoclonal antibody treatment appears effective
“Early data shows a newer monoclonal antibody treatment, Sotrovimab, may be effective against the omicron variant….”

New study suggests most monoclonal antibody treatments are

….Monoclonal antibody treatments from Regeneron, Lilly, and Celltrion completely lost neutralizing activity when faced with Omicron. However, monoclonal antibody treatments offered by AstraZeneca and Vir Biotechnology retained partial activity.

The study authors suggest more research identifying monoclonal antibodies that target the most highly conserved residues on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is necessary for adequate protection against Omicron and other future variants with mutated spike proteins….

In cells expressing human ACE2, the researchers encountered “unexpected” differences in inhibitory activity from COV2-2130 and S309 monoclonal antibodies. COV2-2130 showed no change in neutralizing activity from cells expressing or not expressing human ACE2. The S309 monoclonal antibody treatment showed only a 6-fold decrease in neutralizing activity against Omicron compared to an earlier SARS-CoV-2 strain.

The above results suggest monoclonal antibodies belonging to the AstraZeneca combination treatment or Vir Biotechnology still exert some inhibitory activity towards Omicron. However, the researchers note that more experiments looking into these treatments are needed to validate its clinical use against Omicron….

Dr Cambell (UK) gives the data on the Omicron virus. It is not looking nasty. Note it shows up during the holidays when it will spread very fast, is more contagious but so far looks a lot less lethal. It is escapes the vaccines…. EXACTLY the wrong type of bug to further the Cabals plans.

Dr. John Campbell Believes Omicron Variant Will Enable Speedy Herd Immunity In Africa
Video included.

Full summary in the first few minutes of this video, its good news examination of the 166 patients admitted since the Omicron variant arrived. snapshot of the clinical profile of 42 patients currently in the COVID wards at SB. The majority of hospital admissions are for diagnoses unrelated to COVID-19. The SARS-CoV-2 positivity is an incidental finding in these patients and is largely driven by hospital policy requiring testing of all patients requiring admission to the hospital. 76% of patients are incidental COVID admissions. This very unusual picture is also occurring at other hospitals in Gauteng. The high proportion of COVID incidental admissions may reflect higher rates of community transmission compared to previous waves (variants) that is not translating into higher admission rates for a primary COVID-19 diagnosis. Tshwane District Omicron Variant Patient Profile – Early Features 4th December….

kalbokalbs

Great information.

For those admitted and incidentally found with Covid, what percentage vaxed.

(Understand injections are not stopping Omicron.

gil00

Have a very Merry Christmas everyone.
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cthulhu

Oh, my…..

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/493200/

(Sarah Hoyt seems not to be a fan of Kamala Harris.)

kalbokalbs

From the link. MeThinks quite funny.

“Willie Brown owns the country an apology for foisting this idiot on us. I say this from the bottom of my low opinion of him: he could have done better.”

  :wpds_lol: 

pgroup2

Well, … you don’t know what his standard was for choosing her. She was likely the best at what he was seeking IYKWIM.

kalbokalbs

Trainee.

TradeBait2

Karl says it his way, I say it mine. The content is similar in many regards and over about the same period of time. Being exposed to many businesses, industries, people from all walks of life, statistics, trend lines, analytics, etc. led us to the same general position.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad

pgroup2

He’s an arrogant ass, probably aggravated by high intelligence and excessive alcohol use. IMO opinion he’s the only person who trolls his own blog.

I won’t give him the clicks no matter how right he is.

barkerjim
Deplorable Patriot

Yes, conserving energy for two huge Masses later does involve The Babylon Bee.

Gail Combs

CNN is reporting patients in hospitals are refusing hospital the ‘death’ protocol treatment instead demanding alternate treatment like Ivermectin. They reports staff shortages because nurses are smart enough to refuse the Clot Shot.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/us/doctors-patients-threats-coronavirus-treatments/index.html
  :wpds_lol: 
SUCK ON THAT FAUXI!

kalbokalbs

Damn straight. IF Covid finds me, I WILL be involved in treatment decisions.

Quack at the link can GFH, IF he thinks he can dismiss patient wishes.

Compliant, uninformed patients have been a major part of the problem.

Dora

pgroup2

Interesting. He was the first openly progressive president.

Patriots are smiling quietly, watching the lunatic left descending into cannibalism. Eat up, fools; we won’t interfere.

Gail Combs

That is Teddy not FDR.

pgroup2

I did not confuse the two. Teddy was Bull Moose party. Generally seen as progressives since they described themselves as such.

Got elected mainly due to his nickname as the Rough Rider in the Caribbean islands IIRC (Spanish-American war).

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singingsoul1

Very nice 🙂
Thank you Wolf for sharing truths so beautifully.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Dora

EllieLA

Merry Christmas to one and ALL! May God Bless and bring the Light of the World to each and every one of you!

singingsoul1

Merry Christmas to you Ellie and family 🙂

Dora

Trump is losing support because of this!

Deplorable Patriot

I’m beginning to believe this is a test.

Gail Combs

Yes, it is studied and deliberate.

As Praying medic and the other guy mentioned, POTUS has not mentioned the jab except about four times. It is like he is gageing our reaction.

Linda

From Anonymous Conservative:

A study posted on the preprint site medRxiv shows that Covid mRNA injections are causing immune system dysregulation, where the injections reprogram not only your adaptive immune system, but the innate immune system as well, meaning that the innate systems — which are naturally very strong — may be challenged to the point that the spike proteins of the coronavirus will actually stir up chronic inflammation and autoimmunity.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/23/covid-injections-reprogram-immune-responses/

Gail Combs

Looks like we were not the only ones that think Omicron is man made to counter Covid and Mr Global.

Sunday CoofeyCast
Karl’s 20 minute video.

@ 8:50 he shows Demark’s data that showed Omicron TARGETS the Vaxed. Then he discusses whether this was ‘enemy action’

@ 11:00 he looks at the posibility it is a ‘backfire’ designed to produce immunity in the population (Think Dr Hatfill’s moving vaccine)

So this is certainly worth listening to.

Gail Combs

OH MY… this is so worth repeating. Karl is a man after my own heart. I think his patience with Karens is now non-existent.

Two of the comments from the thread:

Californialost

@moconserv

I’m not in a real hurry to get over to my wife’s nephew’s house this morning for her family Xmas because they asked that everyone be tested.

My wife and I are both unvaxxed, and tested weekly for work (this is new for me, new position) so this isn’t a big deal for us, but the kid focused on “safety” is a rolly-polly virtue signaling fat f#ck, who is convinced we are going to kill him with the most dangerous virus in the history of mankind. Too bad his happy meals don’t come with an IQ booster, because he is already gleefully talking about when he can get his 4th shot of Pfizer.

Thanks for the info, Karl, excellent as always.

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TickerGuy

@Kareninca – Tell him you’ll send just the gasoline and a match. He can self-apply it to his house and it will absolutely, with 100% certainty, eradicate any *****-19 virus that might be in there.

———-

I don’t give a flying **** if you’re offended.

singingsoul1

I came across this” Irish wisdom

” If you are looking for
a friend without a fault
you will be without
a friend for ever “

pgroup2

When people compliment me as being a good friend, I tell them that I appreciate that they have such low standards.  😉 

singingsoul1

Funny 🙂

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!!

I found my friends with ‘warts’ are my life long friends and not the ‘beautiful people’

singingsoul1

What do they say “perfection is in the eye of the beholder” ? 🙂

para59r

Before I forget, was out shopping. Had mentioned that the Walmart close to where I lived had Salvation Army bell ringers a few weeks ago, but they’ve not been there for at least two weeks now. Anyway, on the way home radio station put out a plea for Salvation Army Bell Ringers for the last day before Christmas saying their goal of 149,000 dollars (must be local) had only reached 79,000 dollars. Barely more than half. Awe Shucks.. Guess the bell ringers are even on strike.

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holly

A couple weeks after Thanksgiving at the only grocery store in town there was a sullen looking teenage boy slumped in the corner next to the SA donation pot. He quickly disappeared and nobody else arrived. In past years there have always been smiling boys and girls dressed in red and ringing bells.

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singingsoul1

We had one bell ringer at Kroger and no one stopped.

holly

Biden’s America 😀

singingsoul1

So true 🙂

Merry Christmas Holly

holly

Merry Christmas to you as well singingsoul!

holly

Aubergine

Anyone else having site issues? I can’t get here from Firefox, had to use Microsoft Edge and bypass security. Says the certificate is expired or some dumb crap.

wowohwow1528

I got the “this site is not secure “ and an option for the safety … I blew past their safety … what’s up doc?

1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they shall say, peace and security; then shall sudden destruction come upon them, as the pains upon her that is with child, and they shall not escape.

scott467

I couldn’t even get here using Edge, my anti-virus wouldn’t let me access the page with any browser.

Seems to be working now though 👍

Aubergine

Yeah, I had a fit of it. But it is ok now.

wowohwoh1528
wowohwow1528

Anyone like tech music?

This is 8 Bit electronic Christmas music. You can pick the tracks you want to listen to.

🎄