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The Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States of America:
The above image of the language of the Second Amendment is courtesy of Fine Art American and Google Images.
The Second Amendment was ratified on 15 December 1791. Since that date, there have been numerous attempts to “revise”, to “clarify”, to hobble, to limit, and even to erase, the Second Amendment. There are now hundreds of “gun laws” on the books. There is an entire agency of the federal government, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) that prospective firearms owners must submit to, and clear, before a firearm can be purchased.
The American Medical Association (the AMA), the largest and most influential physicians’ professional organization in the United States, has, for some years, been involved in initiatives and activities related to treating firearms ownership as a “health issue.” In Yours Truly’s opinion, the AMA appears to be getting more aggressive in these initiatives and activities.
The focus of today’s post is on two items: One, a recent CME (Continuing Medical Education) course offering by the AMA; and, Two, a 2016 article that includes, as an author, one of the physicians who is involved with the CME course offering.
Yours Truly begins with the CME course offering, found online here: https://edhub.ama-assn.org/science-medicine-public-health/video-player/18910731, “Health Care Strategies for Firearm Injury Prevention”, 11 September 2024. There is a video embedded for the CME course; there is also a “Read Transcript” link.Yours Truly believes that reading the Transcript is the better way to glean the course content.
In summary: One: it appears that the AMA officially termed firearms violence as a “public health crisis.” Two: it appears that the AMA is calling for “universal screening” of all patients by physicians for firearms ownership, for potential health and/or psychological issues that would limit or even remove such ownership. Such “universal screening” would occur as part of the “routine questions” that the physician asks the patient during an exam (for example: “Do you smoke?”; “Do you own a firearm?” would be added.) Three: it appears that the AMA endorses “lethal means counseling” for those patients who “fit” criteria under point Two, above. Screenshots that are relevant to these points, taken from the CME course Transcript, from physician panelists involved in the CME, are below. The first screenshot is from a statement by Dr. Willie Underwood, MD; the second screenshot is from a statement by Dr. Chethan Sathya, MD; and, the third and fourth screenshots are from a statement by Dr. Katherine Hoops, MD:
The last screenshot above (the second from the statement by Dr. Hoops) regards the use of ERPO (Extreme Risk Protection Orders) laws that multiple states have passed and implement. What appears to be going on in terms of the AMA is to encourage the discussion of ERPO with patients and/or their families, if the physician (the clinician) believes that the patient is at risk for harming himself/herself, or others.
It appears that the CME course content mentions nothing about the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
Yours Truly now turns to a 2016 paper by Dr. Marian E. Betz, MD, et al. Dr. Betz is also one of the panel members for the AMA CME course “round table”, cited above. The paper is found here: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M15-2905, “Yes, You Can: Physicians, Patients, and Firearms”, Marian E. Betz, et al., 17 May 2016. This paper covers several topics, including “parameters” for physicians to follow in speaking with patients regarding firearms ownership and “safe storage”; criteria for physicians to follow to “classify” whether or not a patient is “at risk” for harming themselves or others with firearms; various types of “safe storage” options for firearms; and, “strategies” for physicians to follow when speaking with patients about firearms. Two screenshots from the paper are below:
Dr. Betz, et al., also discussed the ways a physician can obtain information from a patient regarding firearms ownership; and, that physicians, under the Affordable Care Act, can disclose information regarding the patient’s possible risk of harming himself/herself or others to the authorities. Please the screenshots from the paper, below:
Yours Truly will make it clear that the Second Amendment is a protected right in the United States of America; that responsible firearms ownership and responsible firearms use are a given; that there may be certain circumstances in which firearms ownership and use may be restricted for the owner (and which restrictions must be lifted when the circumstances have been resolved); that firearms be kept away from criminals. However, it appears, in Yours Truly’s opinion, that the American Medical Association would prefer that firearms ownership and responsible use be, not under the aegis of the Second Amendment — but, rather, through the “approval”, “supervision”, and “discretion” of physicians.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
And indeed, it’s Monday…again.
But we WILL get through it!
In Wheatie style!
And maybe in Trump style, too!
Enjoy the ride!
Dedication
WHEATIE – OUR WARRIOR ANGEL
by Duchess01
Please forgive us, Wheatie, we did not know That you had left us with armor in tow We had no idea with what you dealt We did not know the pain you felt And now we can only imagine With you what really did happen Cause rarely did you complain And/or share your personal pain Of one thing we are most certain You are flying high behind the curtain Watching over us above the crowds Our Warrior Angel above the clouds Thank You, Wheatie, for caring for us While you were here among the fuss We miss you dear you have no idea Since time began in the pangaea With you there was no time In your wisdom you would chime To clarify and magnify The what where how and why We did not question when you left We were not slightly bereft But over time we wondered why You did not at least stop by Now we know where you have gone With the break of this new dawn We could be angry but are not Tho with an arrow we’ve been shot Rest peacefully Warrior Angel dear Send us a sign that you are near A butterfly a flower a kiss of rain From your love do not refrain God sends Angels to watch over us And now we have an Angel Plus A Warrior Angel of Magnificence From today and forward hence
Boilerplate, more or less, but worth reading again and again, if only for the minor changes, and to stay out of moderation.
The bottom line is Free Speech. Theories and ideas you don’t agree with must be WELCOME here, and you must be part of that welcoming. But you do NOT need to be part of any agreement.
Bottom line – respect other people’s FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
Our only additional requirement is that you do so NICELY. Or at least try to make some effort in that direction.
SO….. [ENGAGE BOILERPLATE…..]
We must endeavor to persevere to love our frenemies – even here.
Those who cannot deal with this easy requirement will be forced to jump the hoops of moderation, so that specific comments impugning other posters and violating the minimal rules can be sorted out and tossed in the trash.
In Wheatie’s words, “We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”
That includes the life skill of just ignoring certain other posters.
We do have a site – The U Tree – where civility is not a requirement. Interestingly, people don’t really go there much. Nevertheless, if you find yourself in an “argument” that can’t really stay civil, please feel free to “take it to the U Tree”. The U Tree is also a good place to report any technical difficulties, if you’re unable to report them here. Please post your comment there on one of Wolf’s posts, or in reply to one of Wolf’s comments, to make sure he sees it (though it may take a few hours).
We also have a backup site, called The Q Tree as well, which is really The Q Tree 579486807. You might call it “Second Tree”. The URL for that site is https://theqtree579486807.wordpress.com/. If this site (theqtree.com) ever goes down, please reassemble at the Second Tree.
If the Second Tree goes down, please go to The U Tree, or to our Gab Group, which is located at https://gab.com/groups/4178.
We also have some “old rules” and important guidelines, outlined here, in a very early post, on our first New Year’s Day, in 2019. The main point is not to make violent threats against people, which then have to be taken seriously by law enforcement, and which can be used as a PRETEXT by enemies of this site.
In the words of Wheatie, “Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”
A Moment of Prayer
Our policy on extreme religious freedom on this site is discussed HERE. Please feel free to pray and praise God anytime and anywhere.
Thus, please pray for our real President, the one who actually won the election.
You may also pray for our nation, our world, and even our enemies.
Musical Interlude
In honor of dear Wheatie, we now present some music to soothe, inspire, invigorate, or relax.
Since I’m the only one who can currently embed YouTube videos, I owe Cthulhu at least one Pomplamoose video. Let’s get that out of the way!
Ah, what the heck. Let’s throw in a “bonus Beths”! If not for Cthulhu, then for me!!!
But now it’s time to get serious. We have to start talking about greatness again.
Let’s try one more.
NOW we’re ready.
Call To Battle
Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Sanctimonious? In a brilliant way that elevates both DeSantis and Trump – but that takes a bit of explanation (see below). My God, this popcorn is fantastic!
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the DayYear Week:
sanctimonious
noun
behaving with sanctimony (excessive or hypocritical piousness)
characterized by sanctimony
affecting piety or making a display of holiness
showing or marked by false piety or righteousness; hypocritically virtuous
Used in a sentence or two:
The brilliantly sanctimonious (or maybe not) DeSantis video is truly a gift to both DeSantis and Trump, although that may be hard for some to see. The TRUTH of the message cannot be missed, and if anything, the message is understated, as all of us thank God for Ron DeSantis. Honestly, I get choked up watching that video. EVERY single time.
I’ll say it right here. Thank GOD for Ron DeSantis.
But is it too much? Well, the TRUTH of the message exceeds the message – so no real misstep there. When you “get chills” watching that video, it’s for a reason. And yet, the more you watch it, the more you realize that we should not be afraid to invoke the name of God. Not in truth. And every word of that video is true.
It’s BOLD is what it is.
When it’s not hypocritical – when it’s bold and true – then it cannot be sanctimonious.
AND YET…..
I’m sure the video does appear to be sanctimonious to some. It did to me, at first. I think that’s part of the genius of it. We are drawn into the truth of it.
Interestingly, I think the video also serves as a statement of principle to “The Club”.
“This is who I am. I’m a fighter. And THIS is what I fight for.”
LET THAT SINK IN, CLUB.
That sure looks like a very Trumpian wish-list to me. Indeed, I think that video is going to change some scheming Club minds in a way that is very positive for both DeSantis and Trump. Those who want to create division between the two are going to have a much harder time, because there sure doesn’t seem to be much space.
How I was led from prayer at a patriotic rally to resolution that we must NEVER concede to either the stolen re-election of President Trump, or the deplatforming of The Last Refuge, and that NOW is the time to send in the troops. The key is WHERE.
The order in which this happened should be noted for the historical record.
Late this morning, in the aftermath of a wonderful RALLY yesterday, and after sleeping on the thoughts of a wonderful YouTube video about the TWELFTH AMENDMENT…..
…..I had a kind of revelation, and decided that we must, and I personally will, NEVER concede to this fraudulent cheat coup.
All we have to do is NOT CONCEDE, knowing TRUTH is on our side, and this election becomes the SWORD that turns into a PLOW that digs up the DIRT in FREEDOM’S FIELD and the HARVEST is OURS.
Stay PEACEFUL – we turn NANCY’S ARROWS into the blades of AMERICA’S PLOW.
The symbolism of the SEAL where a group of patriots prayed the day before should not be lost on the reader, for it was indeed inspirational.
Immediately after that, I learned that The Conservative Treehouse is/was going to be deplatformed by WordPress.
Look HERE for the full context, including my comment at 13:40…..
He won because the Election was Rigged. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more! https://t.co/Exb3C1mAPg
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2020
I will cover this later. I told people here to prepare. Bad stuff. This is what CIA is doing through Stelter and CNN – putting out that “alternative social media” is dangerous.
They are TRYING to make peaceful revolution impossible. It’s quite EVIL.
POTUS may have to intervene. They are trying to FORCE VIOLENCE on America.
Now – let me make an argument which falls out of BOTH my revelation about concession, AND what is now happening to Sundance and The Conservative Treehouse.
One of the most important points is this, made by President John F. Kennedy:
Guess what? It is now my contention that the forces arrayed against President Trump are attempting to FORCE his supporters into violent rebellion. They WANT it. They understand the TRUTH of John F. Kennedy’s wonderful quote. They are attempting to FORCE President Trump to concede the election, so that his supporters are not forced into violent rebellion, but rather into submission. And yet, I am not so certain that even a concession by President Trump would – or more importantly SHOULD – work to quell the thirst for Precious Liberty in America.
Once you see the control of the media – the HIDING of our words – the SILENCING of our voice – it is quite clear that the Bolsheviks are using EVERY tool they can to force us to accept socialism, or rebel violently. The deplatforming of voices of BITTER TRUTHS, like The Conservative Treehouse, will, in my opinion, ENSURE that there is either war or concession, but more likely WAR.
Must there be war?
I bring your attention to a small, pacifist, monotheistic religion – highly persecuted – which prides itself on befriending all other godly / heavenly religions. This is the Baha’i Faith.
They have two specific beliefs which I think are highly relevant here.
One a very USEFUL belief – that we are duty-bound to always attempt to overcome thoughts of war with greater thoughts of peace.
This should not be that hard for followers of the Prince of Peace, who in fact constitute a majority of believers in America, and have since its founding. The founder of the Baha’is, Baha’u’llah, was in fact himself a big follower and fan of the Prince of Peace, and led an exemplary life, even befriending and winning over his jailers, by loving his enemy.
The SECOND point – much more interesting and a bit mystical – is that the Baha’is believe AMERICA has a special purpose in helping to bring PEACE to the world. They even have a prayer for this.
Abdu’l Baha was the son of the founder, Baha’u’llah, and so while this is not “red letter” Baha’i theology, it’s definitely regarded as canon.
Is there, in fact, a way that this can all work out?
I believe there is. And as the mysterious group behind “Q” reminds us, John F. Kennedy is the KEY.
I urge you to now take a look at all of Q’s posts which reference JFK – it will give you a picture of what is going on.
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 237dde No.324395 Feb 10 2018 03:33:29 (EST)
“Rest in peace Mr. President (JFK), through your wisdom and strength, since your tragic death, Patriots have planned, installed, and by the grace of God, activated, the beam of LIGHT. We will forever remember your sacrifice. May you look down from above and continue to guide us as we ring the bell of FREEDOM and destroy those who wish to sacrifice our children, our way of life, and our world. We, the PEOPLE.”
Prayer said every single day in the OO. JFK – Secret Socities. Where we go one, we go all. Q
Why is JFK particularly relevant? Because JFK used the military to (1) insure peace, and (2) restore civil rights to a minority being denied those rights.
Tom Cotton was suggesting that the military be sent in to confront rebellious communists (ANTIFA and BLM) directly. These groups are the violent shock troops of not just the left in general, but the leftist TECH TYRANTS in particular.
It is no accident that ANTIFA staked out my house when I first attacked censorship by Big Tech.
It is no accident that BLM, carrying a big “pocket 9”, was used to try to intimidate me into silence when that didn’t work.
However, nobody except TRUMP wants to do anything about the problem.
Chris Wray will not rein in these groups using the FBI. Mark Esper would not rein in these groups using the DoD.
Now, here’s a wild thought. What if Wray and Esper are RIGHT? Or maybe ALMOST RIGHT?
What if WE THE PEOPLE have the primary duty to rein in ANTIFA and BLM – if only we could?
Normal citizens in NORWAY reined in THEIR Antifa problems PEACEFULLY by their VOICES – by their FREE SPEECH – in public and online. They SPOKE Antifa into retreat, and ultimately into nearly vanishing. Interestingly, it involved a lot of argument and even ridicule. Very interesting that Jack Dorsey FORBIDS the social speech which inhibits these violent Bolsheviks.
Wow. You know, we could do that here, too, if our voices weren’t suppressed by the MEDIA and now the SOCIAL MEDIA.
But it gets worse. Voices of reason and peace – remember COLD ANGER? – like Sundance of the Last Refuge, are now being squelched.
This is too far. THIS is directly interfering with those who counsel RESTRAINT. It is a cunning way to pave the way to WAR. WordPress was one of the last bastions of reasoned but unrelenting free speech on the internet. The Last Refuge is indeed one of the LAST refuges of smart and restrained but uncompromisingly free speech without ever descending into hotheaded fury.
Thus, I am suggesting something entirely different. I believe that the TECH TYRANTS – gifted the beauty of the INTERNET by our own military – have ABUSED THEIR PRIVILEGE, and are now choosing to KNOWINGLY disenfranchise a segment of our population for political reasons. They are DENYING IN PRACTICE our civil rights – our equal rights – and particularly our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS of FREEDOM OF SPEECH and FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
They even push us into SEGREGATION.
They are doing this knowingly, to create conditions for WAR, while pretending to seek PEACE.
PURE BOLSHEVIK. “Make it look like the other guy is at fault.”
Forget Section 230. SEND IN THE TROOPS – not for WAR, but to preserve PEACE.
All we want is free speech and freedom of religion. Nothing more. We can handle PEACE from there.
Restore our ability to seek a PEACEFUL transition to the next administration – and we all know who that will be, if the public is allowed to SPEAK FREELY and demand TRUTH and FAIRNESS.
Restore our VOICE. Prevent the cunning tech Bolsheviks from forcing us into WAR by their removal of our FIRST AMENDMENT OPTION. Stop them from forcing us to the SECOND Amendment.
Send in the troops, and restore TRUE law and order – on the internet.
You will note that the “CHAZ” was set up on the evening of June 8.
Weirdly, this follows by a FULL WEEK from another “PNW Region” event which you almost certainly did not hear about – the EXCLUSION OF ANTIFA PESTS from Coeur d’Alene, Idaho (hereafter “CDA“) by…..
I strongly urge you to read about how ordinary people with GUNS kept that first window from being smashed – that first brick from flying – that first CIA-DNC-KGB-CCP headline from being written.
I feel a lot of affection for those crazy bastards in CHAZ. I like rebel energy. I assert my right to hold that thought while being fully aware that the situation is unacceptable.
I will interject right here that THIS is what Hotep Jesus has been talking about with our knee-jerk rejection of the idea of “autonomous zones”. He’s been saying (“hotep been told you”) “NOT SO FAST!”
The first paragraphs of the Hill article are very instructive – CDA was not the only place this happened.
Heavily armed citizens showed up recently at protests in Wyoming, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Montana, Colorado and Idaho to allegedly protected peaceful protesters from antifa.
In Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, groups of 25 to 50 armed men in combat gear spent successive nights patrolling the downtown area, following internet rumors that antifa agitators would be arriving from Seattle.
The FBI stated there is no evidence that any protests have been linked to antifa. Still, President Donald Trump tweeted: “Domestic Terrorists have taken over Seattle, run by Radical Left Democrats, of course. LAW & ORDER!”
Notice that first sentence. SIX STATES.
NOW – it strikes me that the CIA media didn’t just decide to “red-wash” the news about us “defending our enclaves”.
They STOLE the idea.
I have seen these jokers do this OVER and OVER.
FEARLESS GIRL – I continue to allege – was “STOLEN” (as much as ideas can be stolen, which is NOT REALLY, but still…) from one of Sundance’s favorite memes.
The fact that this meme – Fearless Girl – was STOLEN from The Conservative Treehouse does NOT mean we can’t steal it back and make it our own. This is part of the beauty of memes. They serve TRUTH better than they serve LIES and DECEPTION. The truth will come out, and we must not …
There is a very interesting story there, if you dig into the MSM reporting on the genesis of “Fearless Girl”. The story ends up giving away much about how cultural Marxists operate, and how corporations are SHAKEN DOWN by the left to both give them coin and show proper political fealty – EXACTLY as we see with “Black Lives Matter”, a wholly owned subsidiary of the DNC.
But back to Coeur d’Alene.
If you know the place, then you know that it’s an interesting mix of people, like a lot of the West. Yes, it’s full of GRANOLA, but it’s also full of PATRIOTS of all stripes. Bottom line, FREEDOM matters to the people there.
Am I telling you to support “autonomous zones”?
NO.
Am I telling you to be against “autonomous zones”?
NO.
I’m saying OPEN YOUR MINDS to all possible ways to maximize our GOD-GIVEN FREEDOMS.
I’m saying 4GW BATTLE.
I’m saying WIN, WIN, WIN.
W
The fake conservatives don't have any strategy. You could hijack all of these concepts and use them against the left and state but being right is better than being better, I guess. 🤷🏾♂️ https://t.co/jwWdxqybjD
Header Photo – Alexander Antonov, Leader of the Tambov Rebellion, and his staff.
Even our movies from Hollywood communists lied to us about what happened, as they glorified and romanticized a catastrophe spawned from the depths of HELL.
There is a bit of history that our communist educators never taught us.
The INTERNATIONAL (i.e., “globalist”) BOLSHEVIKS used chemical weapons against the people of Russia.
Yeah. Your DEMOCRAT teachers never let you know about THAT one.
I have GOVERNOR COMMIE BLACKFACE of Virgina to thank for this new knowledge. You see, because he has turned almost his entire state into a SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY, people there are skittish. So when they saw that the UNITED NATIONS…..
….is now recruiting ENGLISH-SPEAKING DISARMAMENT WORKERS – well, they are not particularly trusting of the SNEAKY U.N. BOLSHEVIKS.
Why Is The UN Hiring English-Speaking Disarmament Officers In New York?
It’s an interesting read. I’m not convinced that the U.N. has discrete thoughts of disarming Virginians, but you never know. They were pretty sneaky luring us into bait wars in Asia during the 1950’s, when they were still rather freshly minted. Frankly, I don’t trust them, and I am ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that the EVIL DEMOCRATS will call on the U.N. for help if they pull off any kind of COUP. BANK ON IT.
There was an interesting comment on the article:
Spiritual Anunnaki 47 minutes ago (Edited) removelink
Internationally sponsored Bolsheviks did the same thing in Russia while consolidating their power.
Read up on the “Tambov Rebellion” that sent 50,000 civilians into a rebelious region of the USSR.
It culminated in over 300,000 dead in under a year including the rebellions leader Alexander Antonov.
Well, I’m always willing to “take a cue from Pikachu”, so I dug. What I found shocked me.
To describe it quite simply, the Bolshevik insanity of centralized government was killing Russia, and the people of Russia’s equivalent of the agrarian Midwest had quite enough of the insanity, so their version of Tulsi Gabbard (Antonov, apparently the only semi-sane one in the bunch) tried to lead a rebellion that ALMOST WORKED.
The problem was, there was NO DEPTH TO THE EVIL OF THE BOLSHEVIKS.
So they used TORTURE, MURDER, SUMMARY EXECUTIONS, CONCENTRATION CAMPS, and even CHEMICAL WEAPONS on the rebellious Russians.
YES – the Bolsheviks set up concentration camps – in 1921 – the year in which Hitler actually rose to the top of the fledgling Nazi Party. [As an aside, I hope you know that the Nazis got the idea of mobile execution from the Bolsheviks, who used truck exhaust to kill prisoners and save bullets.]
THIS is the crucial part to read:
The seriousness of the uprising caused the establishment of the “Plenipotentiary Commission of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Bolshevik Party for the Liquidation of Banditry in the Gubernia of Tambov”. With the end of the Polish–Soviet War (in March 1921) and the defeat of General Wrangel in 1920, the Red Army could divert its regular troops into the area – deploying in total over 100,000 Red Army soldiers, alongside special Cheka detachments. [10]The Red Army, under the command of Mikhail Tukhachevsky, used heavy artillery and armoured trains and also engaged in the summary execution of civilians. Tukhachevsky and Vladimir Antonov-Ovseyenko signed an order, dated 12 June 1921, which stipulated:
“The forests where the bandits are hiding are to be cleared by the use of poison gas. This must be carefully calculated, so that the layer of gas penetrates the forests and kills everyone hiding there.” [10]
The Bolshevik forces used chemical weapons “from end of June 1921 until apparently the fall of 1921”, by direct order from the leadership of Red Army and from the Communist Party. [13] Publications in local Communist newspapers openly glorified liquidations of “bandits” with the poison gas. [13]Seven concentration camps were set up. At least 50,000 people were interned, mostly women, children, and the elderly – some of them sent to the camps as hostages. Each month 15 to 20 percent of inmates in the camps died. [10]The Bolsheviks gradually quelled the uprising in the course of 1921. Antonov was killed in 1922 during an attempt to arrest him. Sennikov estimated the total losses among the population of Tambov region in 1920 to 1922 resulting from the war, executions, and imprisonment in concentration camps as approximately 240,000. [8]
You will find many links to additional information in these links. This is all covered in that famous “Black Book of Communism” as well.
One of the most interesting parts is how the Soviets tried to hide this information. As would be expected by anybody who lived during that time.
Recovery of documents
Some documents relating to the rebellion were found by the local ethnographer Boris Sennikov in 1982 while he was engaged in clearing sand from the altar of the Winter Church of the Kazan monastery.[17] During the 1920s, the monastery had been requisitioned for use as the local Cheka headquarters and the church had served as the archive of the Tambov Military Commissariat.
In 1933, the local government decided to burn documents that could compromise the Soviet regime. However, during the process, the fire grew out of control and had to be extinguished by water and, crucially, sand. All documents in the archive were believed to be destroyed; as the church altar was not used by the archive, the surviving documents, covered by a layer of sand, had never been found. In 1982, the local archive changed its address and the church became abandoned; when Sennikov found the documents, the Tambov department of KGB opened a criminal case against him. Later, the case was closed, but Sennikov lost his job.
In 2004, the publishing house Posev published the Sennikov archive as part of The Tambov Rebellion and the Liquidation of Russian Peasantry[1] along with documents relating to the Governorate Military Commissariat (including those dealing with Konstantin Mamontov‘s 1919 anti-Bolshevik raid, and those describing the Great Purge of the 1920–30s). The documents also included Red Army orders issued during the rebellion, correspondence, reports of the use of chemical weapons against the peasant rebels, and documents of the Union of the Working Peasants.
Now, it is absolutely necessary to point out that Sennikov is a RABID antisemite. I refuse to link directly to any of his crap. He basically accuses the entire Soviet leadership of being Jewish – even Lenin, who was raised Russian Orthodox, with a Russian (or Russo-Uralic ethnic) father, and his mother being from a Lutheran family but half-Jewish through her father, Lenin’s grandfather, a converted Christian. Was Lenin Jewish? All I can tell you for sure is that the NAZIS didn’t think so. To the Nazis, Lenin was a “Mischling of the Second Degree”. But to Sennikov, he was a “Jewish Bolshevik” like ALL the rest of them!
Whatever. Lenin went nuts when his father died during his teenage years, and here we are today. One personal tragedy, improperly resolved, led to BILLIONS of tragedies – or at least joined in their making. Sounds like a few other nasty dictators we know.
The other links I’ve given above are free of Sennikov’s toxic viewpoint, but basically say the same thing. Including the number of chemical shells used – over 300. Compare to Syria, although these were older technology. Nonetheless, chemical weapons use did NOT end with World War I.
Riot of the October Revolution, 1917
The critical point to understand from reading the links above, is that an urban globalist elite, driving a Bolshevik revolution from the capital and largest cities of Russia, eventually had to quell opposition in the sensible, food-producing hinterlands. Their utter mismanagement created the very crisis conditions that led to rebellion.
If you look at the pictures of the Tambov Rebellion and the famine surrounding it, you will be shocked, and you should be. THAT is the price of SOCIALISM – COMMUNISM – WHATEVER.
We are seeing a REPLAY of the origins of these historical conditions. Not exact, but spooky enough to give me much pause.
And yet – because we have held onto our BIBLES AND OUR GUNS – symbolic of the FIRST and SECOND AMENDMENTS – we are actually in a position to STOP THE INSANITY.
When I read James Comey talking about Donald Trump and his supporters – US – I can see the same UTTER DISDAIN FOR PEASANTS that the Soviet Bolsheviks had.
In 2020, I want to show the Soviet Democrat elite that not only are we NEVER, EVER AGAIN to be fucked with – they have seriously underestimated WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE STAND FOR, WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, and WHY THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO LEAD.
Think about it. Think about how we’re going to show these people that the false world they constructed to force socialism upon us, is headed to the TRASH HEAP with the rest of socialism.
Eric Weinstein is an interesting Twitter follow. He has opinions which I would say land square in the middle of the “new skeptical intelligentsia”, part of which would include the “intellectual dark web”, part of which would be outside it, but are disturbed in different meaningful ways that such a thing has to exist (and therefore some people on the left consider them PART of the “intellectual dark web”). Eric is pretty much on the internal border between the two parts of the larger movement, and “gets” everybody.
Stated another way, he’s “Quillette perfect”.
Anyway, he’s worth following even if you just want to see what smart people are saying about stuff.
Well, a Twitter friend replied to him on something, and that led THE WOLF to pontificate just a bit. The tweets were ultimately in response to a QUESTION by Weinstein.
How – 2A defenders – do we stop the NEXT school shooting?
Let’s talk about the next major US school shooting with more than 3 dead. Those folks are currently alive. They are just having a day today like anyone else. They don’t need our thoughts & prayers yet. We could take action to save those lives. We know it is going to happen.
Oh, did I *EVER* want to talk about how I, personally, may have stopped a “non-school” shooting by NOT SHOWING UP in the same room as a politician, thereby nixing an opportunity for the MURDEROUS WHOEVER to pull their little game of “wrap up multiple loose ends”. But then THIS gets into the REALITY of “fighting the future” in a statistical, quantum-ish, highly uncertain, multiverse way – something most people aren’t even ready to consider, much less believe, much less understand.
This gets into all we have observed about active shooter training exercises and drills “mysteriously” preceding active shooters who are used for political payload. This gets into my long-and-painfully-developed “economy of events principle”, which shows how these events nearly always have to have MULTIPLE POLITICAL PAYOUTS for them to occur.
This gets into acceptance that there are technologies IN USE that most of us are not aware of, few of us understand, and nearly none of us is even CLEARED to know about.
This gets into believing that there are motivations IN PLAY which are far, far different from anything which is being revealed publicly to the hapless population of victims and aggrieved family members.
This gets into believing that there is ANOTHER “intellectual dark web” – possibly not all on this planet or even in this universe – that has its own ideas about where humanity needs to go.
Yeah. Some conjecture may be necessary. And you had probably better believe that EPSTEIN didn’t kill himself.
So scratch THAT SHIT. Unless somebody really wants to understand how tenuous ACTIVELY STOPPING ACTIVE SHOOTINGS actually is, when SOMEBODY OUT THERE WANTS THEM, and all we have to go on is the experience of SURVIVORS and WITNESSES – those who have been set up before by sketchy, abused LE and IC, and managed to walk out of their “history grooming process”. Or those who have dedicated their lives to investigating and stopping this stuff.
In that case, then they can look at how it was done in one particular instance.
This is a bit of a strange post, and I won’t go into all of the details here and now. Maybe never. However, I am deciding how I’m going to deal with exactly what is in the title, and I want the have maximum information at hand when I do. You folks are a wealth …
So skipping the X-Files stuff, or maybe not, let me show you my responses on the thread.
Here’s my plan: That we begin talking ahead of time and not retroactively. Move to the next one. Like it is “Groundhog day”. Let’s set a schedule of anticipation and see if it changes anything. Why are we exhibiting learned helplessness? Makes no sense.
Gun control is feared by many of my fellow Americans. Ok. So…I want the strong 2A crowd to take the lead. What real plan do we have that we can fund and implement to get these deaths toward numbers that aren’t an embarrassment?
Yes. Add this to the LIST. All ppl skin in game on social stability. The solutions [which must retain FREEDOM and POPULAR RESERVE OF POWER (2A)] have to be multiple and have components in many directions because of post-Marxist societal deformations in so many dimensions.
When I was a kid (60's), even though bullied as a nerd, the idea of shooting up a school was unthinkable. The FAKE NEWS has worked very hard to make it thinkable so that it can be an issue to kill 2A. WEIRDLY, now that I've disconnected from fake news, SOLUTION is thinkable.
Thus, I believe that KILLING THE MEDIA as it presently exists – as it was TURNED for stealthy political power – is a necessity to end gun violence. Somewhere in communist doctrine, in an offline vault in Beijing, is an idea that our media + violence was needed to get US guns.
I believe that @realDonaldTrump is entirely correct that guns are not the ultimate problem. I might back-fill reasoning later. For now, this: I believe a unifying idea we can all gravitate to is "Big Switzerland". Distributed power (2A, anti-Mao), freedom, peace, TRAINING.
The latter is a secret that most opponents of private gun ownership don't often see in person – that the deeper one gets into gun culture, the more it becomes like a religion of safety. Indeed, many gun critics fall off the wagon when they see this. Authentic "safety" is good.
Sadly, "safety" has been used propagandistically, and division grows, but REAL safety from familiarity and training spreads more than just safety – is spreads the "old 2A social culture". I believe this true gun culture washes out "media training" connecting guns to violence.
I grew up in an anti-gun fam. Mom traumatized by WWII horrors – hated even toy guns. But a WWII vet (Patton), NRA life member, changed us all, patiently. Mom eventually saw the light on 2A, and joined NRA. She never owned a gun, but felt it was a duty for younger people.
I'll end on that idea. When people feel that owning a gun is more of a duty and a responsibility than simple empowerment, then safety, wisdom, and peace ensue, and that's a GOOD THING. I believe we can get back there, but we MUST regain control of our own media to do it. /end
NOW, I think my idea about “neutralizing” the FAKE NEWS MEDIA is really key to this, but probably not enough. FAKE ENTERTAINMENT has to be dealt with as well. And more.
But that’s just ME.
What about YOU? What do all of YOU think? Most of you have been unplugged from FAKE WORLD enough that you may be seeing answers, too. You may see that THE RIGHT is going to be who solves this problem – not THE LEFT.
Let me put the KILL SHOT on these “red flag laws” right up front.
Hard to read that graphic. Let’s make things just a bit more clear.
Now you MAY be saying “BUT WOLF – THAT’S NOT THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THAT’S THE *FIRST* AMENDMENT!“
To which I say “EXACTLY.“
Here is the explanation. It is, for lack of a better metaphor, how the Second Amendment and the First Amendment PEACEFULLY protect each other – by saying WWG1WGA.
Any “red flag law” that doesn’t EXPLICITLY PROTECT – better still EXCLUDE – all Constitutionally protected speech, beliefs, associations, and assembly, is not worth the paper that it’s written on.
The reason is that, absent explicit protections and exclusions, such laws may be interpreted in practice to deny citizens of their First Amendment freedoms – particularly SPEECH – by construing protected activities to be in conflict with other rights – specifically our SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
(This stuff used to be common knowledge before American crypto-Sovietism, by the way.)
This has often been referred to as a “chilling effect” – a sneaky form of infringement which is typically brought forth under the guise of laws utterly unrelated to speech, religion, or other First Amendment-protected activities. Enemies of First Amendment exercise will “hold other rights hostage” in a way that “chills” our claim to those First Amendment rights, lest we see the OTHER rights denied or potentially infringed. In almost ALL these cases, the parties backing such laws desire to infringe on BOTH freedoms, but will take either one, by constructing a FAILED law which puts them into apparent conflict.
The Constitution says NO – there IS no valid conflict, and if you are attempting to create one, even accidentally, then you are creating UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
Wolf Moon, Annoying Patriot, and Son of the American Revolution
SO BTFO, COMMUNISTS!
Republican lawmakers who think it necessary to have such “red flag” laws should TAKE NOTE before signing them. An ABSENCE of explicit Constitutional protections of SPEECH is, in my humble opinion, sufficient reason to veto ANY such legislation.
Our GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump, has personally given a demonstration of how this works, in a joking (well…. who knows…..) tweet. AND I QUOTE:
Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!
There you have it – the REALITY of “red flag” laws for millions of wonderful, trustworthy, but perhaps “not careful with their tongues” Americans. INCLUDING CHRIS CUOMO! Who I don’t particularly like, but whose rights to angrily argue and own a gun I will defend to the DEATH!
The responses were uniformly BRUTAL for red flag laws.
SO – let’s look at this more closely.
Is Jack Posobiec right? Are “red flag” laws unconstitutional?
In my opinion, red flag laws CAN be constitutional. But I am not even sure if ANY of the existing ones are. And THAT is scary.
Ohio is proposing a red flag law which is designed to avoid many of the pitfalls of existing red flag laws. But even the proposed Ohio law really “needs some work”, in my opinion.
First of all, red flag laws need to respect both the SECOND and FOURTH Amendments.
Here is Dick Heller, of the famous Heller case, talking to OAN about this:
The SECOND Amendment is rather obvious. The FOURTH Amendment is more concerned with warrants, seizure of property, and probable cause – all of which are made more sketchy in red flag laws, when a JUDGE has not actually reviewed the evidence with opposing counsel present. THINK FISA COURT. Gun SEIZURE without the ability to challenge it IMMEDIATELY or better still BEFOREHAND is an idea that does not sit well with this here critter.
Now WOLF MOON – who thinks SCOTUS got the “gay marriage” thing all wrong by not using the FIRST AMENDMENT to protect both gay marriage AND polygamy, is often in the habit of picking DIFFERENT Amendments to defend freedoms. This time is NO DIFFERENT.
Yes, I agree with the Second and the Fourth, but I believe that the SIXTH and the FIRST are also very important here. We’ve talked about the FIRST – what about the SIXTH?
Some people might be A-OK with the idea of just giving up their guns, not being arrested, and arguing about it all later, but NOT THIS HERE WOLF.
“I WANT AN ARRESS!”
In fact. to be completely clear, I want an arrest, and a hearing with MY LAWYER and a JUDGE, and I want it BEFORE my guns are taken. This gives me my MAXIMUM rights under BOTH the Fourth and the Sixth Amendments.
Trust me – THIS OPTION is the most Constitutional of all. I will have WAIVED NO RIGHTS in picking this option.
SO – let me summarize. In my opinion, a potentially Constitutional red flag law must:
not take away my stringently guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights without due cause
respect the due processes of the 4th Amendment in a HUGE and optimal way
explicitly guarantee my FULL 1st Amendment rights, NEVER using protected speech, beliefs, or activities in any fashion to take away my 2nd Amendment rights
better still, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE all 1st Amendment protected things, including speech, writings, religion, beliefs, assembly, associations, and memberships
allow arrest without seizure and a prompt hearing with legal representation, for MAXIMUM 4th and 6th Amendment rights
include strong deterrents for abuse in BOTH criminal AND civil law
Are you starting to see how much difference current red flag laws have from this ideal, with the ideal probably passing review by SCOTUS, and current laws actually being somewhat doubtful?
I’m kinda thinking Jack Posobiec is right.
NOW – let’s look at an example. This will demonstrate both the Constitutional requirements AND how SAFE a properly constructed “red flag” law could actually be – if enforced HONESTLY by HONEST law enforcement, including an HONEST FBI (cough, cough, COUGH, COUGH).
I have a person who believes in a CRAZY RELIGION. The crazy religion says that in order to go to heaven, one has to defend the religion violently against all non-believers, cutting off their heads. This person goes online and AGREES WITH ALL THIS, repeats it, and argues vociferously and ANGRILY for it, because he is a MUSLIM.
But in real life, he’s a nice guy, and has never even struck anybody.
Sorry – according to WOLF’S version of a CONSTITUTIONAL red flag law, this guy cannot even be “red-flagged”, and if anybody tries it, Peaceful Angry Muslim has grounds to SUE.
Like it or not, what YOU consider “crazy beliefs” are PROTECTED by the First Amendment.
Even VIOLENT BELIEFS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN HATE SPEECH and ANGRY SPEECH are protected by the First Amendment.
Even HATE GROUP ASSOCIATIONS and MEMBERSHIPS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN CRAZY SPEECH AND BELIEFS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Violent actions are NOT protected.
So Violent-Talking Angry Muslim who never hurts anybody gets his gun.
Are we done yet? Can we still SAFELY have “red flag” laws with all these Constitutional protections and restraints?
Sadly, the answer is NO.
No, because the HOLDER/MUELLER/LYNCH/COMEY FBI – still politicized as hell, is DESPERATELY pushing for those unconstitutional, Nazi-style laws of the LEFT…..
Check out this FBI political move against 1A/2A in Ohio. Bust a kid in mom's basement for ranting about Waco (as in, protected speech), and then count MOM and DAD'S GUNS and AMMO in the "horrifying" numbers.
Here is the article. I URGE YOU TO READ IT – especially between the lines. You will see how this is 99% propaganda of the moment. Digging up old posts to push for NAZI gun laws.
They took this kid’s PARENTS’ GUNS to spice up the numbers, took his posts to paint him as a danger, and DESPERATELY tried to create a SECOND PUNCH after DUBIOUS DAYTON.
Only – well – it’s kind of a FAIL.
This is exactly the political stuff that the now-ruined CLINTON-OBAMA FBI pulled on President Trump. So do you know what I think now?
I think there is excellent reason to believe that the HOLDER FBI has been pulling ALL of these sketchy gun-ban propaganda mass shootings. The only difference here is that they’re running low on “MK specials” who can be manipulated into pulling off their shit. So they’re resorting to backing up their DAYTON SATAN mass shooter with a KID who – wonder of wonders – lives in the same state.
SAD, SAD, SAD.
This is why red flag laws are communist bullshit. They are not only of sketchy probable FBI / Deep State origin and definite FBI propaganda backing – they are simply TOO ABUSABLE.
Sorry – even if I saw a red flag law that EXCEEDED my recommendations here, I tend to believe that it would STILL BE ABUSED by political elements in the FBI.
If you’re not familiar with “red flag” laws, then you had best get there quickly. This new attack on the Second Amendment is actually WAY WORSE than any previous one, and constitutes what may be the most cunning attack on the CORE values of America EVER. The more I have learned about these laws, and analyzed them beyond that, the more alarmed I have become.
Or try this:
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This is the future @mitchellvii wants.
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FYI in Australia we have no right to firearms, need licenses, gun safes bolted to the floor and wall, ammo stored in seperate compartments, regular check-ups by state agencies etc and “red flag laws” have always been a thing here.
A colleague of mine had his firearms confiscated by the state after attending a rally against immigration policy. He took the state to court and after several months won his case and was able to recover his firearms, only to have the state then cancel his firearms license on a separate technicality, related to his “unsuitable character”.
Another colleague who was a regular attendee at political rallies has had his property raided by police at least three times in the past eighteen months, police claim to be “searching for illegal firearms”. They never find any and have no reason to believe they will, officers carrying out the raids have verbally apologised to him after each search, informing him that they’re just following orders.
Another man I know was gun pointed inside his own home by police after getting involved in a brief fist-fight with Antifa, after trying to attend the Milo event in Melbourne’s North. His wife and children watched their father cuffed at gun point inside his own house, before being taken to the police station to be questioned, then charged with “affray” –But the charge was later dropped.
This is what “red-flag laws” will get you in America. Regardless of the noble excuses the state and its pawns will make, this is how these laws are actually used in practice.
At first, I was only gathering and looking at OTHER PEOPLE’S concerns. But then I started thinking about things on my own. I started putting FACTS together. I started asking what the EFFECTS of red flag laws – already known in Australia – would be on America.
I suddenly realized what is going on.
El Paso and Dayton are not merely about this election. They are about REVERSING THE TRUMP PHENOMENON for good. They are about UNDOING the “Q” movement. They are about restoring the FAKE NEWS. They are about SAVING GLOBALISM and DESTROYING AMERICANISM. And AMERICA.
And yet, it almost seems like we’re sleepwalking right into these damn things.
So here you go. THIS is what these SICK laws are actually all about.
10. Red flag laws make SPEECH a RISK.
This was a profound realization – that RED FLAG LAWS CHILL FREE SPEECH FOR GUN OWNERS. Almost all of whom support TRUMP, by the way. Real “coincidence” there.
Gun owners CANNOT afford to “take chances” and “say the wrong thing”.
Think about what I just said. Think how ORWELLIAN that is.
What this means, then, is that Red Flag laws are in fact a profound attack on the FIRST Amendment, disguised as an attack on the SECOND Amendment.
They create an ARTIFICIAL CONTRADICTION between the FIRST and SECOND Amendments.
They conflate speech and violence on LEFTIST IDEOLOGICAL TERMS – using leftist minds as judges – just like Vysotsky’s Soviet ANTIFA does. Just like ANTIFA was DESIGNED to do.
ANTIFA, filled with boys who call themselves girls, and girls who call themselves boys, who says speech is violence, and violence is speech.
This is sneaky as hell. Frankly, I cannot imagine that even a cunning POS like Cryin’ Chuck, or a shifty old witch like CHI-FI, could think this stuff up.
Let me put it this way. If it wan’t CHINA that came up with red flag, it was probably ALIENS.
Pencil-necks. You know what I’m saying. THESE GUYS.
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9. Red flag laws turn neighbor against neighbor.
Again, this is incredibly insidious. Of course, COMMUNISTS and NAZIS love to DIVIDE people, but Americans? HOLY MOLY. I want to get along with my liberal neighbors. All this is going to do is generate suspicions and recriminations.
Yes, the COMMUNISTS who have taken over the Democrat party probably want MORE DIVISION, but that is the OPPOSITE of what Trump wants.
So why should we do it? As TRUMP supporters, we don’t WANT more division and suspicion.
8. Anonymous reporting makes political abuse a certainty.
Being able to CONFRONT ONE’S ACCUSER is a CORNERSTONE of our Constitutional rights. This is the SIXTH Amendment. This is the heart of DUE PROCESS.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Sixth Amendment
This ability to confront accusers, before FINAL ACTION is taken, serves to LIMIT the power of anonymous accusations or suspicions. People cannot “get what they want” by an accusation without DEFENDING IT FIRST in a courtroom.
At least, that was the way it was SUPPOSED to work.
SIDEBAR: Note that there is an opposite problem, when the media and FBI only work for one party, in that anonymous PUBLIC accusations are the only recourse – WHISTLE-BLOWING, basically.
Yes, we have something called “anonymous tips”. But in that case, police are required to investigate and THEN decide based upon their OWN investigation if there is REASONABLE CAUSE to take action. With “red flag” laws, police are compelled to act BEFORE there is even proof of a crime. Unproven accusations are usable to CONFISCATE ARMS – the FINAL ACTION of the process. THIS IS BACKWARDS LOGIC.
This is COMMUNIST and POLITICAL.
Once again, Communists are up to their FAVORITE TRICK – the politicization of processes. Just like the Communists now running the Democrat Party politicized the DOJ and FBI, now they want to politicize local policing. They did this with their “Promise Program” that destroyed due process in Parkland, and now they want to “go big” with destruction of due process, by taking the concept nationally, using “red flag”.
There is excellent reason to believe that POLITICAL OPERATIVES will use red flag laws to harass their enemies – meaning US. We have already seen incidents of this – the SWATTING of innocent people – in states and nations that have these laws. Australia is particularly bad.
I actually have personal experience with this. I had forgotten all about it, until today.
During the 2016 Trump campaign, I was falsely accused of illegal gun carry in a felony zone by anonymous Trump opponents. This was something of a mild “swatting”, and I was very fortunate, because the police didn’t believe the complaint (which I then proved was a lie). Since then, there have been TWO entrapment attempts on me, quite possibly orchestrated by federal agents of some kind.
Political harassment using law enforcement is REAL and very dangerous.
Wolf Moon
SO – do I personally believe that “red flag” laws will be abused? ABSOLUTELY. And I predict with CERTAINTY that they will be abused against ME, if passed in my state, or nationally.
I repeat – 100% certain that they will be used against me, because of this blog.
7. Solving rifle murders before illegal alien murders is illogical.
Just look at this graph.
This shows the power of the FAKE NEWS to distort the world in favor of DEMOCRAT GOALS.
The YUGE bar on the left is murders by illegal aliens.
The thin sliver on the right is murders by rifles. ALL of them.
Red flag laws will only solve a FRACTION of the deaths by rifles, on the right.
But now let’s consider theoretical “green flag” laws, which would treat illegal aliens like gun owners. We would deport the illegal aliens, based on anonymous tips, without THEIR due process rights. They would then be vetted like gun owners, and – if “safe”, they would be let back into the United States. Even as illegals, but safe ones, we would let them back in. ALL the safe ones. Who knows – maybe MOST of them would come back in. But no matter how many, let’s presume that we only let the safe ones back in. The murderers DON’T get back in.
This theoretically solves ALL of the murders on the left.
ALL OF THEM.
So why aren’t we pursuing GREEN FLAG LAWS FIRST?
Maybe because Democrat Communists don’t WANT us to solve the bigger problem. Maybe because THEIR biggest problem is actually TRUMP VOTERS – and not murders using rifles OR murders by illegals.
6. Red flag laws deprive us of the rights we are due upon arrest.
This is subtle, but it is YUGE. I mean it – this is a BIGGIE.
This is why, if there is ever a national “red flag” law, I believe that it MUST have a “voluntary arrest option“, that GIVES ME MY FULL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS *BEFORE* TAKING MY GUNS.
In fact, the ONLY red flag law that I believe will ultimately pass muster with SCOTUS, is one that allows the accused the option to say “You can detain ME, but you cannot take my guns. Not until I have seen a judge with my lawyer present.” At that point, the police enter the person into NORMAL processing, which brings the accused before a judge in a timely manner, and ALL NORMAL RIGHTS ARE GRANTED. This path is almost guaranteed to be fully Constitutional. And the DEMOCRATS are undoubtedly going to hate it, because it will turn the tables on these damnable laws, ending their abuse SWIFTLY in a flurry of expensive lawsuits against both accusers and the state.
Once your guns are taken, they are lost in the system. Once your guns are taken, the communists have control. Once you LET your guns be taken, you have WAIVED YOUR RIGHTS. We have to make these laws ACKNOWLEDGE that the SEIZURE OF ARMS is unconstitutional, but that the accused can ONLY FREELY WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS to let it happen.
OR NOT.
And if we DON’T waive our rights, then we must be granted ALL THE RIGHTS TO WHICH WE ARE ENTITLED. Otherwise known as DUE PROCESS.
Are you with me?
What I am doing is PLAYING ALONG WITH RED FLAG TO SHOVE THE POISON PILL OF DUE PROCESS DOWN ITS ERIC HOLDER CHINA DRAGON THROAT.
When we walk away with a traffic ticket, instead of being arrested, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. When we pay our ticket by phone or on the internet, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. And when we allow unconstitutional confiscation as a CONVENIENCE to all parties, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. Everybody needs to recognize this.
Arrest in America is NOTHING LIKE arrest in China. Arrest gives us STANDING.
“I want an arress!” – speaking of our OWN arrest – may be the single most important way to STOP DEAD the communist goals of red flag laws.
What I am saying is that we need to view this BACKWARDS from the unconstitutional reasoning of the communists. We need to add an ARREST OPTION, so that red flag laws – if these horrifying things ever pass – are just as Constitutional as a traffic ticket. We need to view the immediate collection of arms without arrest as WAIVING ONE’S RIGHTS TO BOTH KEEPING THE ARMS AND ASSUMING THE RIGHTS OF THE ARRESTED.
And beyond this, THE RIGHT OF WAIVER IS THE GREATEST RIGHT OF ALL.
The right to CHOOSE to waive or not waive our rights is the ULTIMATE RIGHT. We cannot give this up, and yet most red flag laws STEAL THIS FROM US, by giving us NO OPTION to be peacefully arrested IN LIEU OF taking our guns.
The rights of the arrested – and particularly the FALSELY ARRESTED – are a GIANT HAMMER with which we can batter both RED FLAG and OUR ACCUSERS.
We must NEVER waive our rights to KEEP OUR GUNS, nor all the other rights which we are guaranteed by the Constitution.
EVER. Others may, but not this WOLF. “I WANT AN ARRESS!’
[NOTE: What I am really talking about is being “detained”, but same diff. Buckle up – it will feel every bit like an arrest. But if it’s a bad rap, you will be out QUICKLY and WITH YOUR GUNS.]
5. Red flag laws corrupt the role of the police.
This is very typical of communists. In the same way that Communists LOVE to change the ROLES and POWERS of the primary branches of the FEDERAL government, so too they love to change the roles and powers of STATE and LOCAL government.
In PORTLAND, they make the police STAND DOWN to “protect” the POLICE and not the PEOPLE.
In LOS ANGELES, they make the health department STAND DOWN to “protect” the “rights” of the homeless and not their health.
And in sanctuary cities around the nation, they make EVERYBODY stand down to protect non-citizen criminals, and not law-abiding citizens.
But conversely, communists may make police STAND UP in roles that are not actually theirs.
What communists are doing here, is making police act as “judge, jury, and executioner”, by confiscating arms before there is any proof to a DUE PROCESS that there is justification for doing so.
This is a corruption of the role of the police. This is JUST LIKE the way that communists under Obama corrupted the military and NASA, abusing their purposes instead of simply closing them down, which would be too obvious.
Worse still, this corruption leads to the NEXT problem with “red flag” laws.
4. Red flag drives a wedge between police and gun owners.
Red flag laws will not only drive a wedge between citizens and police – THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
Why? Because BOTH law enforcement AND gun owners support Trump. Because law enforcement AND gun owners typically RESPECT each other.
Red flag laws are designed to WEAKEN the bonds of respect between law enforcement and gun owners.
Red flag laws are designed to cause DIVISION between Trump supporters.
Sneaky, isn’t it?
3. Red flag laws drive a wedge between police and veterans.
Veterans will be particularly hard-hit by accusations of “unworthiness” due to the Democrat “false offering” of PTSD. Communists in the Democrat Party offered and promoted PTSD self-categorization to veterans PRECISELY so that they could eventually have their guns taken away. It was a long-term, patient plan, but it worked like crazy, and it is coming to fruition now.
I’m not saying PTSD isn’t real. Trust me. I know it’s real. But HOW that reality is integrated into society is what we are talking about. The PTSD category can be ABUSED.
MUCH propaganda has been deployed here. Watching it has been very educational.
The fact is, political leveraging of PTSD by gun-grabbing communists will create suspicions between veterans and police. Obama and Eric Holder could not be happier about this result.
And this leads to my next reason.
2. Red flag drives a wedge between doctors and patients.
Patients are already NOT being honest with their doctors about their medical status and gun ownership because of Obamacare and its sneaky socialist spying and judging. But you haven’t seen anything yet.
Under red flag laws, doctors will basically become “the enemy”. They, and their nurses and assistants, will be deprived of any information that could possibly result in a red flag complaint – once people realize that their information is not safe.
Trust me – HIPAA is BULLSHIT that is completely orthogonal to what Deep State needs to target patriots. Deep State can work around it in a heartbeat. How do I know this?
It’s DROP TIME.
I caught my doctor being used in a test run of a deep state scam against gun owners. I believe that my doctor was INNOCENT in the process – I believe they were deceived and USED. But I had some WARNING on what would happen, and was completely ready for the various steps of the process. It all happened like clockwork, exactly as predicted. It was a very beautiful scam, and will work against almost any patriot.
The key step is something that is outside of the “fake science” we are allowed to know, but that I know because of my unique background and some basic theoretical reasoning. It’s nothing “woo-woo” – it’s just been suppressed by Fake News. It’s horrifyingly real, but we were allowed to be “Eloi” for the “Morlocks”.
And the WORST PART is that this scam will sync right up with red flag laws, as I expect they are supposed to work, if we allow them to pass.
I’m not ready to go public with the details, but – well – let’s just leave it at that. I have hinted about it before, and the White Hats “have it all”. Maybe somebody else will drop the full bomb. That might cause a wee bit of scrambling, so I leave that choice to higher powers.
Fun times.
And now, the most insidious of all.
1. Red flag is designed to push Trump’s voters off social media.
This is perhaps the most profound realization I’ve had so far.
This goes straight to interfering in the 2020 election. And every election after that.
It’s bad enough that free speech is going to be stifled in real life by red flag laws. But social media? Our ONE WAY of working around the Fake News? Gun owners will FLEE.
“CHYYYNNA” knows this. They know this will kill Trump’s support online.
Which brings me to the last, EXTRA, and final reason red flag laws are a bad idea.
0. Red flag is a key part of China’s conquest of the Pacific.
By neutralizing America in the same way that they neutralized New Zealand and Australia – taking away the speech of its enemies – China will become the dominant force in the Pacific first, and the World later. Censorship of opposing viewpoints through gun laws was a way to take down opposition without firing a shot. China leveraged GUNS against SPEECH and it worked.
This TO RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTION TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember the 5 words that President Trump and Vice President Pence love to hear:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT? TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
There may be some question about what speech is allowed here.
My goal is to be as expansive as possible, as far as RULES. My preference is to be no more restrictive than the First Amendment.
So far, the only LEGAL speech I’ve acted against is metaphorical “targeted violence” against famous individuals that is probably NOT a real threat, but is easily misinterpreted as one by our enemies, and thereby used to shut us down, or to paint me as a legitimate target in an abused law enforcement set-up.
I don’t actually LIKE that stance. I would prefer to fight it out on those cases, should the speech ever be questioned, when I know the person is NOT actually a threat. However, I’ve been CONNED before, and SETTING PEOPLE UP to come to the aid of BAIT VICTIMS is a specialty of the left. Just look at SPYGATE to see how this works.
When you see the wounded hostage girl in the middle of the road, you don’t help her. You dump 50,000 rounds of ammo into every conceivable ambush point. Then you inspect the bodies, remove the booby-traps from the girl, and interrogate her to see if she’s a true hostage. Probably not.
Now you understand why I dealt severely with these cases. Do it that way once, and they don’t happen again.
So what about child pornography?
Easy. It’s illegal. Not allowed. Along with any other clearly illegal speech.
NOW, that said, NOT all illegal speech will actually be removed from this site. Child pornography would be removed, obviously, because just looking at it intentionally is a crime. However, an ILLEGAL THREAT will remain posted PUBLICLY as EVIDENCE which the PUBLIC has a right to see. I would likely preserve the EVIDENCE and BAN THE ACCOUNT so that the evidence could not be deleted.
Unlike all these places that seem to think it’s OK to hide social media accounts once they become important, I will not hide evidence that the PUBLIC has a right to see. All arguments AGAINST this involve forms of PRIOR RESTRAINT, and I simply don’t buy that shit. Journalists have a RIGHT to see it. That includes citizen journalists.
Now – in the interest of investigations – into scandals like NXIVM, “pizzagate”, and the Podesta brothers, we may actually end up DISCUSSING child pornography. I don’t have a problem with that. AT ALL. If we have to label the threads NSFW, not a problem.
What about “plain old pornography”? Well, if it’s relevant to MAGA or citizen journalism in some way, like in the news, then not a problem. We may have to label a thread NSFW. That’s reasonable, IMO. We can work that out.
Personally, I think that LINKS will get us by for such cases, and I will definitely NOT censor such links. Authors, however, are free to enforce stricter or looser LEGAL standards on their own threads. We’ve already had NXIVM tattoos and barely-covered Stormy breasts on here, and there WAS that HC porn tweet on the Ted Cruz account that made big news, and I would have allowed that tweet to be posted in a comment. People had to CLICK IT to SEE IT. That’s pretty much the same as a link, IMO.
What about plain old “people want to look at porn”? I’m not sure if that violates the terms of service for WordPress, but there is that to consider. As it is, I don’t think any of our authors are likely to start a porn thread, but if it happened, I would insist that it be clearly marked and NOT have a graphic featured image. I would actually prefer it be passworded, but not sure if I have that capability on this site. I’ve never really looked into that.
We will cross that HIGHLY UNLIKELY bridge if and when we come to it. Personally, I think porn threads would be highly unpopular here, if only because most of us know it’s a form of cultural Marxism.
What about graphic violence?
Honestly, this stuff is going to appear routinely in any Daily Thread in a world with Communists and Muslims, and there is little point in labeling these threads all NSFW, but I think that people CAN consider using links instead of images.
HOWEVER, I am NOT going to restrict such speech. In some cases, I may even encourage it, as TRAINING. I would prefer to simply let people FIGHT IT OUT over content, rather than impose rules. Indeed, I have not seen you good people fight enough with each other over content. I feel like a free speech drill sergeant with a bunch of raw recruits who refuse to ENGAGE in fighting drills. Y’all are gonna need some toughening up.
To me, beheading pictures and “little-girl-run-over-by-a-jihadist” pictures are exactly what is needed to make people WAKE THE FUCK UP about the reality of the Red-Green axis and why it needs to be shut down HARD, with various Clintons and Podestas in PRISON, and suffering as many riots, rockets, and false flags as it takes. I mean, seriously. Are you folks ready for a NUKE OR TWO to shut down the cabal? I’m not seeing it. If you aren’t willing to see NUKES GO OFF – probably false flags or psychological terrorist actions by THEM – nuclear 9/11 – in our fight to protect free speech, you’re not ready for this fight. You will WIMP OUT on 1A.
The WOLF will not wimp out on 1A, 2A, or any of the rest. If we push THEM into some kind of “sum of all fears” action, TOUGH. THEY pay for THEIR crimes.
NO. PRIOR. RESTRAINT.
In addition, analysis of FAKE graphic violence is KEY to stopping the censorship movement, as PALLYWOOD and KIWIWOOD have both demonstrated.
SO – expect bloody and lurid as we topple the FAKE WORLD that has been imposed on us. If you need to look away, look away. Nobody will blame you.
Not every business is as dedicated to the Second Amendment as BLACK RIFLE COFFEE COMPANY.
Now – I’m generally of the opinion that a business can do what it wants to, and if a business wants to be a gun-free zone, they are welcome to become one.
However, I also have a right to take my business elsewhere.
One of the interesting things I’ve noticed SINCE the midterms, is that the left is really starting to carry forward their “war on guns” without any pretense or permission.
Part of that war seems to be labeling places as GUN FREE ZONES – meaning they are forbidding even legal concealed carry. Personally, I’ve always LIKED the idea that there are PROBABLY a few CC license holders in most public places. It seemed like the only gun free zones were the “agreed-upon” ones – federal buildings, doctor’s offices, airports, schools, etc. Even those weren’t good ideas, IMO, but at least they were FEW.
WELLLLLLL…..
That’s all changing. I am now noticing that CHL holders are NOT welcome in:
Post Offices
Starbucks
AMC Theaters
Certain shopping centers
Fancy department stores
Some of this is REALLY SNEAKY, too. You have to read the SUPER-FINE PRINT in places people don’t normally look, to see that concealed carriers, and even off-duty police carrying arms, are not welcome. Other venues are more “in-your-face” now, with stickers at face level on the doors, which is appreciated, but not completely, given that they are treating licensed carriers and law enforcement in ways that they will NOT treat illegal alien CRIMINALS.
For a while I decided not to let this bother me. Based on what I see online, I figured there were probably a FEW people who might be carrying ANYWAY, and that they could protect me.
However, with the advent of really powerful scanners, I think we’re getting to the point that I can’t actually count on there being any “good guy civil disobedience” in these venues. GOOD PEOPLE will be taking great risks, if they wander into these “target galleries” armed – even off-duty police.
My feeling is that there is only one way. We have to PUNISH these places by withdrawing our business en masse.
SO – with that in mind – please OUT your “favorite” gun-free zones, so that we can start avoiding them and pulling back our dollars. Also, if you know ALTERNATIVE places that are NOT gun-free zones, please let us know who THOSE people are, so that we can switch allegiance.
