Author: Wolf Moon

A Brief Chronology of the Wyoming Gay Cowboy Narrative

In which the social justice “hoax retelling” of the Matthew Shepard gay/drug acquaintance murder fits into an even bigger social justice artistic story-born movement looking for a political event to boost it.

Introduction:

I did not expect to write this article. But after being sucked into a rabbithole of research, I simply had to do it.

I do not, unfortunately, have an exact answer to my original question:

What was the relationship of the Matthew Shepard murder to the movie Brokeback Mountain?

As you will see, the relationship is very strong. But just like the truth of the Shepard murder itself was originally hidden underneath calculated social justice hoaxing, so too the history of the related / unrelated movie which followed is obscured by the larger, softer, “DVD extra”, PBS “stay tuned” feature, more diffuse, more professional, and easier almost-truths of the New-York-to-Hollywood-by-way-of-Flyover-and-Writeover-Country-and-Western “artistic axis”.

There is no smoking gun. But there is smoke everywhere. One might say it’s the way that “wishful conspiracies” work.

Discovery:

Start here.

I knew there was some question about the Matthew Shepard murder, and that it was “also drug-related”, but I did not know just how much of a euphemism “it might have a drug angle” was.

Sadie’s original post:

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/dear-maga-20190613-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-172517

Sadie Slays
June 13, 2019 at 05:51

In honor of Gay Pride month, have a red pill about Matthew Shepard.

Matthew Shepard’s murder is a vintage case of fake news. The truth is that he was a drug dealer who was murdered by people who were trying to steal his large supply of crystal meth. Of course, the fake news media blew this up as the “gay hate crime of the century,” the Democrats tried for years to use it as an excuse to push hate crime legislation, and Americans were scolded about it for years for being “big bad violent homophobes.” Even though America is probably the safest country in the world for the LGBT community, you wouldn’t know it from the way they continue to point to Matthew Shepard as proof of persecution (they can’t bring up Pulse nightclub because that would involve blaming Muslims).

So there you go. Next time someone starts whinging to you about Matthew Shepard, kindly point out the real circumstances behind his murder.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

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The critical article:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

This is a great article, covering the essential investigatory book, and it actually prompted THIS investigation.

I wanted to know – did this obviously “social justice re-narratived” murder – frequently mentioned in the context of the movie “Brokeback Mountain” – actually have any deeper relationship? Was it the IMPETUS for the movie? Did a HOAX create a PROPAGANDA MOVIE?

What I found haunted me. But I set it aside, never finished the post, and got distracted. Until Sadie reminded me.

Sadie’s next post:

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/19/dear-kag-20200819-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-575940

Sadie Slays
August 19, 2020 at 00:23

Matthew Shepard was a drug dealer who was killed in a bad drug deal by people he knew. There’s even an entire book written by a gay journalist about what really happened and how the media misled everyone on it. Despite this, the DNC and media continue to perpetuate the hate hoax 20+ years later.

The parents of Matthew Shepard cast Wyoming’s votes for Joe Biden for president.
Matthew Shepard was left to die on a fence in Laramie, WY after being brutally attacked & tied to that fence on Oct. 7, 1998.
It was a gay hate crime.
Matthew died at age 21. https://t.co/YIFzYhs6kN

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) August 19, 2020

[Amazon link below]

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You will see from that Twitter post, that the social justice hoax is still going strong:

Here is the investigatory book:

When I read the Guardian article after Sadie’s FIRST comment, I figured that the story of Matthew Shepard (who was murdered in October of 1998) was likely the starter idea from which BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (2005) was generated.

Actually this is WRONG – it’s the REVERSE – but I didn’t know it until I dug into the chronology.

Reality:

The Matthew Shepard hoax story LOOKS like the origin of the movie Brokeback Mountain in “normie political news-viewer world”. It appears like the murder “brought to light” the “gay cowboy phenomenon” which had always been there – we just didn’t know about it. Granted, there ARE gays in the redneck and cowboy worlds, but it’s not nearly as big a deal as the leftist fake news wants it to be. The TRUTH is that in liberal artistic world, the Matthew Shepard murder was a VICTIM-SYMPATHY BOOSTER (just barely) for a liberal-beloved fictional story INTO a movie.

Stated another way, a DRUG REALITY was re-told into conformance with a PRE-EXISTING BUT RELATIVELY UNKNOWN LIBERAL FICTION, which not only yielded POLITICAL ACTION, but TIPPED THE BALANCE for ARTISTIC LEVELING-UP.

The reality is not nice. A BOTTOM GAY GUY was killed by two TOP GAY GUYS in the very dangerous “meth + gay sex” world. Death is a common problem in that world – see Ed Buck. The difference here is that literature-savvy gay activists were among the first to react, possibly as “witness distancing”, and quickly turned a “bad for gays” drug story into an anti-gay “hate crime”, and the fake news media lapped it up like mother’s milk.

From the article – this is CRITICAL….

But when Matthew’s friends Walt Boulden and Alex Trout heard of the attack they rushed to the hospital. They contacted the Associated Press and a number of local gay organisations that same day. Boulden, a 46-year-old college instructor who says he was the last person to talk to Matthew before he met McKinney and Henderson, linked the attack to Wyoming legislature’s failure to pass a hate-crimes bill. Boulden later said the assault was identified as a hate crime by a policeman.

But that’s not all.

Place this in political context.

All this stuff was happening during the SECOND TERM of the Clintons. I believe that for both Clinton and Obama, the SECOND TERM was designed to be the one where radical propaganda events would be undertaken. So the media minons and leftist pols were HOT TO TROT for “progress”, and this story, bogus as it was, was simply unstoppable.

NOW – let’s TIMELINE all this “gay cowboy” stuff. You will see that it shows the TRUE NARRATIVE DEVELOPMENT.

While you’re looking at this, consider MIMETIC THEORY as a bit of an explainer here. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Girard for a description of the basic theory, which is not immediately obvious, but which is extremely useful in looking at communist victim-substitution psychology and TACTICS.

HERE WE GO….. (includes some quotes – references listed at the end)

Timeline:

1992 – VERMONT journalist-turned-author Annie Proulx gets NEA fellowship

1992 – old-and-famous Larry McMurtry begins writing collaboration with young hottie Diana Ossana

1993 – Annie Proulx gets Guggenheim fellowship

1994 – Annie Proulx moves to Wyoming

spring 1997 – Annie Proulx is inspired to write story by a bar scene (ranchy-type guy scoping out guys)

1997 – Annie Proulx writes story

10/13/1997 – Annie Proulx short story “Brokeback Mountain” officially appears in New Yorker

fall 1997 – story is immediately seen by Ossana and optioned by Ossana and McMurtry at Ossana’s initiation

(Note that the way magazines are released early, this could have been in September.)

“That evening, I asked Larry how he would feel if any staunch Lonesome Dove fans turned against him for being involved with a film that subverts the myth of the American West and its iconic heroes. He replied that he’d never given it a thought. I told him good, I figured as much, I just needed to hear you say the words. That was the only time we ever spoke about any political implications to making a film of “Brokeback Mountain.”

fall 1997 – screenplay is produced by McMurtry and Ossana in three months

“We had a finished screenplay in three months, and sent it off to Wyoming. In a few days Annie phoned, and we spoke for over two hours. She had points she wanted to clarify, and a few corrections, but on the whole she seemed genuinely pleased with our work. I felt fortunate to have her input, because these people were born in her imagination. She and I spoke about Ennis and his stoicism, his background, his homophobic worldview, his inability to access his emotions. She talked a lot about Wyoming, its landscape, its people and their hardscrabble lives.

What she said to me in those two hours I mentally filed away. I referred back to it for the next eight years.

We sent the script to our representatives, who in turn sent it out into the world. Our Brokeback Mountain screenplay had been in existence for a year when young Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered in Laramie, Wyoming. It was horrifying. It felt like an eerie mirroring of Annie’s story and our screenplay My daughter, Sara, was attending the University of Wyoming in Laramie on a basketball scholarship when they found Matthew’s body tied to a fence not five minutes from her apartment. I flew to Wyoming to be with her. While I was there, we went to visit Annie at her home in Centennial. We spent the day together, and she took us on a picnic up near the Medicine Bow. Annie was warm and welcoming, a strong, solid presence, and it was reassuring to Sara (and to me) to know she would be close by.”

10/6/1998 – Matthew Shepard killed and STORY CHANGED by last witness college instructor Walt Bouden

Remember: (“Boulden, a 46-year-old college instructor who says he was the last person to talk to Matthew before he met McKinney and Henderson, linked the attack to Wyoming legislature’s failure to pass a hate-crimes bill. Boulden later said the assault was identified as a hate crime by a policeman.”)

1999-2002 – film under discussion but it never comes together

2003 – deal to make film is reached

spring 2004 – production begins (Ang Lee director, Ossana producer)

9/2/2005 – film festival releases begin in Europe

12/11/2005 – limited [Christmas!] release in US

1/13/2006 – US general release

1/22/2008 – Heath Ledger dies of drug overdose

7/18/2008 – Dark Knight released (Ledger plays Joker)

Timeline References:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Proulx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain_(short_story)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ossana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Girard

Diana Ossana’s IMDB:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0652223/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm

Brokeback Mountain IMDB:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/?ref_=ttrel_rel_tt

Brokeback Mountain release:

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/release-of-brokeback-mountain-creates-a-buzz/article_7eb6088a-39a8-5ef2-bd89-53ddf44731d2.html

https://bookfrom.net/larry-mcmurtry/page,11,33806-brokeback_mountain.html

https://archive.fo/aEcvY

https://bookfrom.net/larry-mcmurtry/page,12,33806-brokeback_mountain.html

https://archive.fo/1HshI

https://bookfrom.net/larry-mcmurtry/page,13,33806-brokeback_mountain.html

https://archive.fo/Er9eh

Conclusions:

I don’t think Matthew Shepard was killed to make a movie, but I think he WAS killed for drugs, and then fit to a “nicer for gays” story that people ALREADY wanted to believe. The fact that his re-told death meant MONEY for the Democrat-media-entertainment-arts-propaganda complex only insured that the re-telling would STICK.

Conspiracy theories involving individuals are often wrong, but they are useful, in that they provide a skeletal road-map to a larger reality of social conspiracies. And those conspiracies ARE promoted by people with long and patient plans.

Although it may look like Matthew Shepard was conveniently murdered for leftist propaganda, IMO it’s more likely that his murder for drugs – knowledge of the abuse likely touching his “witness friends” – was conveniently RE-PURPOSED to fit a desired narrative, and KILL the real one, of gays, sex and methamphetamine.

Many people WANTING something to be true, and all of them white-lying, wishful-thinking, exaggerating, distorting, re-telling, re-casting, or even re-remembering things – but ONLY a little bit for most of them, and with malicious intent by only a few of them – allows ONE HUGE LIE to be hidden among a large number of people.

THAT is my diagnosis of what happened here.

Liberals BROUGHT THEIR CULTURE with them to Wyoming and IMPOSED IT on the alien cowboy culture there – in thought, then in STORY, and finally in FAKE NEWS AS STORY.

Communist social justice hoaxing followed “artistes” and gays to Wyoming, as sure as communist corruption followed the Clintons to already-corrupt Arkansas.

It was only a matter of time until they would speak a new reality into existence.

W

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA – Evidence Discussion 02 – Is Clinesmith the End of the Road?

The question of FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, the indictment of whom was POSSIBLY announced by AG William Barr in response to Sundance’s announcement of an imminent release about DOJ, is very interesting.

Clinesmith is the guy who altered an email about Carter Page, hiding that Page was a CIA source, and thus allowed the BAD Carter Page FISA to continue to be used against Trump.

Is Clinesmith cooperating? How MUCH is he cooperating? People are speculating like crazy. A lot of people are taking Barr’s “gib” as a sign that BIG FISH ARE GONNA BE IN THE FRYIN’ PAN! Clinesmith has to be cooperating! He’s SINGING!!!

Really? “Trey Gowdy really?” Are we sure this isn’t more “Tick Tock Club”?

Remember James Wolfe? He THREATENED to give up a bunch of people in the Senate. Sure seems very convenient that DOJ attorney Jussie K. Liu made that all go away with a wrist-slap for lying to the FBI.

Yeah, but now it’s DURHAM. And Durham is a “straight shooter”!

OK, so you say Sundance says Durham’s not real, yada yada yada, but throw that all aside – Clinesmith is TALKING. RIGHT?

Set aside the possibility – which I think is very real – that MKULTRA techniques may have been used on Clinesmith, to insure he would “come through” on “Carter Page not a source”. Totally subconscious. He won’t remember a thing. Those techniques can also interfere with investigation. “Missing time.” Gaps in memory. There is some possibility that these techniques can be REVERSED, but SET THAT ASIDE, TOO.

We simply need to know two things:

  • is Clinesmith giving up useful evidence which will get more coupsters?
  • is OTHER evidence accumulating that will get more coupsters?

Q seems to be saying YES!

Room for 5 more indictments.

4621

Link to New Q Drop

Q!!Hs1Jq13jV617 Aug 2020 – 6:59:35 PM

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[Set 1]
1. Kevin Clinesmith [KC][11.3]
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[Placeholder – Indictments Tracking > Civ]

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

Will this information have come from Clinesmith?

Not necessarily, IMO. I think it’s possible, but there may be MORE witnesses and MORE evidence.

We do NOT know how these indictments relate.

So what do you all think?

I’m up in the air right now. I want to hear MORE from Sundance.

Tomorrow – whoops, I mean TODAY is Tuesday. Sundance promised to DROP today. Let’s see what happens.

On Sunday, in one of his talk show coverage posts, Sundance had a video of Nunes talking about Clinesmith. Take a listen:

NOW – this is very interesting – Gateway pundit restates something that makes a lot of sense – that Comey “knew” Carter Page was CIA.

https://twitter.com/John_KissMyBot/status/1294990260674473986

If you read the article, you will see that this reasoning is based on the fact that Carter Page is KNOWN to have sent a letter to Comey, telling him that he had worked for the CIA. Page copied a WITNESS on it, so this is a KNOWN FACT.

In my opinion, TGP is overstating the case by ASSUMING that Comey believed that letter. Well, whether or not Comey believed he letter, we know that FBI top brass was RE-ASKING the lowers about Carter Page’s CIA status when Clinesmith DOCTORED THE EMAIL to hide it. So in my opinion, Comey was getting COVER from Clinesmith when he asked for VALIDATION on Carter Page having no relationship to the CIA.

Clinesmith GAVE Comey that cover by doctoring the email.

So GREAT – there has to be some smoking gun where Comey or McCabe or SOMEBODY told Clinesmith what to do – to doctor the email – RIIIIIIIGHT?

WRONG! There may be, but we don’t know yet.

OK, then. Is it the opposite? Clinesmith did it all by himself – right? End of the line? One guy caused all this damage by doctoring an email?

ALSO WRONG! It may be, but we don’t know yet.

I want to know more about what DOJ is holding here.

And I want to see what SUNDANCE is holding, too.

TODAY.

Tuesday.

Sundance, https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/14/its-500pm/

W

“Not what you expected, is it?”

MUST-WATCH: Shadow Gate

I urge everybody to watch this, because THIS is who we are up against.

LINK:

https://banned.video/watch?id=5f37fcc2df77c4044ee2eb03

You will note that Millie Weaver was ARRESTED right before this came out.

LINK: https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/millie-weaver/

LAWFARE.

https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1294733634444894208

These are the people who tried to stop Trump, and they are STILL trying to stop Trump.

YouTube has flagged this documentary as “hate speech”, if you can believe THAT.

W

Hey! I know these guys! The “Chertoff Sensor” guys!

Connected to….. VEGAS.

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA – Evidence Discussion 01 – Weissmann Panic in DC

OK, people. PRO or CON, you have all gotten your Sundance YA-YAs OUT OF YOUR SYSTEMS on the other thread, namely:

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA (With A Foreword by Attorney General William Barr)

I am now asking that all discussion of “YAY” or “NAY” on Sundance be kept on THAT THREAD.

You want to fight about whether you trust Sundance? Keep it on that thread. I do NOT want ANY of that stuff on this thread, and that includes ME responding to you. I will not delete your post and leave mine – I will delete MY response as I realize what I’m responding to, then your post.

We are ONLY going to be talking about Sundance’s new assertions and evidence PER SE and what we think about them. Not “in general” – very specifically. Fighting over Sundance as a source will be ejected from this thread WITH PREJUDICE. That includes waffly “not so sure about this” questioning of the evidence, as a sneaky way to bring “anti-Sundance Eeyorism” [oh, I love the KARMA on that one] into the discussion. GOT LOGIC? Good. We like LOGICAL THINKING because we’re Q followers.

Advice? LURK if you can’t zip your fly and restrain from pissing on SD. Since I can’t BAN FROM THREADS, I’ll just DELETE YOUR POSTS.

Understood? Good.

We have free speech – and some of it is over THERE so that those of us who want to actually discuss the evidence can do so here.

This is like a Trump rally. We have a demonstration zone which has just as big a digital footprint as this one – it’s just OVER THERE.

HERE WE GO.

Sundance is now showing more strongly his theory that the Mueller SC, really the Weissmann SC, is central to the coup. This is TODAY’S TWITTER TIMELINE.

What do you think? I have some thoughts here, and I want to see if anybody ELSE is thinking what I am. What I am thinking is something I suspected WEEKS AGO, based on several Sundance assertions that seemed just a bit “too knowing”. These tweets revived that suspicion.

I want to see if any of YOU ALL are thinking the same thing.

BUCKLE UP!

W

The Revelations of Sundance of MAGA (With A Foreword by Attorney General William Barr)

Get it all in here, fellow cultists!

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1294116739127681025

This thread is meant to contain most of the fighting over Sundance’s upcoming revelations about DOJ, and whatever AG. Bill Barr seems to be doing to preempt those revelations.

We will spawn more threads as needed over the next few days.

BUCKLE UP!

W

Dear KMAG: 20200814 Open Topic / Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid / The LancetGateEffect / Ivermectin & COVID-19 / On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic / Masks OFF

This [Q-3]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.

SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid

OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.

Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.

Example:

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/dear-kmag-20200810-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-569473

wolfmoon1776

I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!! 

I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.

Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.

TheseTruths

I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!

wolfmoon1776

Just saw this – let me get out of notification view and see what I said!

But now, take a look at these tweets, to see where SD is going…..

Sundance responds to a bunch of trolls and splodeyheads, but this one has some meat:

SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.

NOW – here is my problem.

Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.

So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.

  • keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
  • separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
  • on The U Tree

I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.

Thanks!

The LancetGateEffect

Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.

This is the article that brought it to my attention:

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away. I get more “old” likes and retweets on this one, than almost anything.

But here is the biggie:

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

This graph is a real convincer.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/05/hypothesis-restrictions-on-hydroxychloroquine-contribute-to-the-covid-19-cases-surge/

I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.

We really should have seen this coming – that there would be KARMA and CONSEQUENCES for banning HCQ on less than pure motives.

However, once you start digging into the FDA drama, it gets complicated – particularly with saboteurs like Rick Bright entering the mix.

But let’s ask a question posed by Gail Combs – is this whole HCQ thing a TRAP?

You know – THAT is a damn good question.

LINK: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/10/8-10-20-news-roundup-notice-the-democrat-and-msm-talking-point-has-disappeared-the-assassin-believes-that-pdjts-4-eos-would-stand-up-in-court-put-the-state-of-north-carolina-in-the-good-gu/comment-page-1/#comment-569018

Wolfie what is your take on this subject?

I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.

Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….

… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….

That was me.

DP, Ginger, and others.

Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go

AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL…..
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I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…

HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.

So what say you?

Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?

THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.

We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.

For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.

I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.

In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.

If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.

There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.

Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.

Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.

If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.

So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.

Ivermectin & COVID-19

Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.

LINK: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1

I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.

This article has a freely downloadable PDF version HERE: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1.full.pdf

If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.

This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.

The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!

Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.

What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?

“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.

Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:

  • less vents
  • more steroids
  • better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
  • more oxygen earlier
  • better testing, all kinds

As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.

Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.

It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.

It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.

The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.

If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.

Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.

On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic

Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:

If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.

SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.

Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.

A match made in HELL.

Anyway – here is the deal.

We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.

  • don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
  • every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
  • never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
  • don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
  • call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
  • if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
  • pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation

In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.

By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.

Masks OFF

The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.

https://twitter.com/mhtx76/status/1293394550992580608

To which I responded…..

This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:

We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.

I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.

Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.

Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.

I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.

Carry on, Digital Soldiers!

W

The #LancetGateEffect Is Taking Names Before Kicking Ass – Please Contribute To The List

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

Things are happening faster than I expected.

Check this out.

https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1293676537351471107

We need to contribute to this effort.

Please dig up EVERY LINK that you can find of anti-HCQ and post it here. Be sure to include a description, including WHO exactly is referenced, to save people time when they go through comments.

Also, I highly recommend SCREENSHOTS, ARCHIVES, etc., and please provide LINKS to any screenshots or archives.

I would love for this blog to be a major contributor to the list of WHO (pun NOW intended) is responsible for anti-HCQ treachery.

Even if somebody is just repeating propaganda, it may help lead back to the source.

Leads are fine, as well as PROOFS.

W

Dear KAG: 20200812 Open Thread

WHERE’S KAMALA?

And if she can’t serve, where’s Nancy?

“Abida geh, ha-ha, ibida Tromeh, sumeamne, he-he!“

And speaking of John Kasich…..

“MAILMAN! AH SAYUD MAILMAN!”

And a reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.

Ahem.

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out with anyone who happens to still be hanging out there.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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My Biblical Selection is from yesterday’s daily reminder…..

Fear not the queller of fears!

Jesus Calms the Storm
(Psalm 107:1-43; Mark 4:35-41; Luke 8:22-25)

23When He got into the boat, His disciples followed Him. 24Suddenly a violent storm came up on the sea, so that the boat was engulfed by the waves; but Jesus was sleeping. 25The disciples went and woke Him, saying, “Lord, save us! We are perishing!”

26“You of little faith,” Jesus replied, “why are you so afraid?” Then He got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and it was perfectly calm.

27The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the sea obey Him!”

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Komrade Kamala Dirt Thread

So – treasonous communist VALERIE JARRETT and her PROG COMMIE friends say that we must treat “whichever” black female VP pick Biden makes (clearly they were planning on Kamala Harris) with some sort of artificial respect based on her – well, just read it.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7030967/Letter-to-Media-Final.pdf

To which I say…..

To me, rich, attractive, powerful and “officially race-blessed” as “””special””” people like Kamala Harris are a JOKE when they rely on any kind of “woe, me” SAFE SPACE protection.

The woman is a hoaxing monster, closely tied to the 3rd-generation Russian Red Diaper Jussie Smollett CRIMINAL HOAX and its cover up. She and fellow neo-commie Cory Booker CONSPIRED to create a FALSE and SLANDEROUS national media and government “lynching narrative” which the criminal communist Democrats even now continue to inflict on us, e.g., Bubba Smollett of NASCAR’s demise, as they tear down our cities.

THIS SITE was targeted in their lynching narrative, as I also fended off their SICK HOLDER HOLDOUT DOJ/FBI comrades, trying to set me up for a nice media bust to somehow tie to Trump. THAT ended when BARR took over DOJ, and now it’s time to take the fight BACK TO THE COMMUNIST SOURCE.

THIS THREAD will be a CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMPENDIUM of crypto-communist Kamala Harris’ CRIMES and MISDEEDS – her socialist excess – her hypocrisy – her PHONY CHARACTER, in every way possible – and everything else for which she deserves to come nowhere NEAR the Presidency of this great nation.

BRING IT HERE. ALL OF IT. GROW THE GARDEN OF TRUE DIRT FROM WHICH WISDOM SHALL SPRING.

W

SHE’S BAAAAAAAAACK!

Dear KMAG: 20200807 Open Topic / ObamaGate News / HCQ News / HCQ Insights / Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine

This [(10*Q) + 7]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY where Q = 0 open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.

SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!

“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

ObamaGate News

Let’s start here. A tough one to swallow.

SHARYL ATTKISSON

UNTOUCHABLE SUBJECTS. FEARLESS, NONPARTISAN REPORTING.

READ (NEW): Attkisson v. Rosenstein for government computer intrusions

DATED: AUGUST 3, 2020 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON


The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.

Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:

  • Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government. 
  • Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers. 
  • The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
  • Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.

But then it gets interesting…..

Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:

  • White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones. 
  • White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data. 
  • The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein. 
  • Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent. 

READ MORE AT THE LINK: https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/08/read-new-attkisson-v-rosenstein-for-government-computer-intrusions/

As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.

Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?

But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..

Sally Yates, covered HERE:

LIVE THREAD: Sally Q. Yates Gets Grilled

……was a big deal. It seemed like she almost got away clean. BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR….. courtesy of Sundance…..

Richard Grenell Discusses Yates Testimony: “She got away with questioning yesterday”…

https://youtu.be/l2wUUcR1yTo

Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.

ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.

“Be prepared.”

HCQ News

Let’s start here:

https://twitter.com/alfa673/status/1290876639040147456

This is the “Henry Ford study”. It basically shows HCQ cutting the death rate in half.

But those numbers get BIGGER.

Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.

Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.

Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.

https://twitter.com/niro60487270/status/1290883705586593793

I had to comment and retweet!

The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.

LINK: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/update-1-turkey-s-covid-19-cases-up-over-1-000-in-severe-rebound/ar-BB17z1u0

Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.

NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.

Not exactly easy in New York.

Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.

LINK: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181

…..and here is the original article…..

LINK: http://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-works-irrefutable-proof

Banning HCQ in Switzerland left a FOOTPRINT in the data. I would argue that there is half a footprint in FRANCE, too…..

This evidence is extremely convincing, and is blowing people away.

This data EVEN got the attention of microbiologist Steven Hatfill, who wrote a GREAT piece defending HCQ.

An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch

LINK: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.

And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.

There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.

Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.

NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.

I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.

NONSENSE!

Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.

BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.

One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.

https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1291387353085480965

YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.

BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.

HCQ Insights

One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.

I call this the “EUA EUA“.

“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”

The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.

One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.

The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.

The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.

WIN, WIN, WIN.

NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.

It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.

This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.

Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.

Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.

One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.

This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.

March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT

By Mike Hixenbaugh

LINK: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/scientists-were-close-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago-then-money-dried-n1150091

There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.

And now THIS.

Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine

What are we up against?

Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.

https://twitter.com/InAMadWorld111/status/1291072513703849986

Let’s look more closely.

We are not “starting a war”. We’re FIGHTING BACK.

Masks are a huge battle from the socialists who want ANY kind of permanent change, even really stupid ones.

Fighting back will be on all fronts. Some of it will be masks themselves, but others will be technical – TESTING and HCQ are going to be big.

Do not be afraid to put DATA like this in people’s faces.

https://twitter.com/carmindabrendel/status/1291459727143165953
https://twitter.com/GiantSlyers/status/1288563741206949889

Do not be afraid to ADMIT TRUTHS, because you can TRUST that more truth will come to your rescue.

We are going to WIN, and we are going to win BIGLY.

Take THAT to the Bank, Nancy Pelosi.

W