KMAG 20250312 Daily Thread and GLADIO, BANKSTERS & MERCANTILISTS

Before I get into the meat of this controversial subject, I want to cover a bit of background. …. The three topics are, Oligarchs, Propaganda, and Astroturf Terrorism. Since those three are critical to understanding our current situation, I am going to make this a stand alone article.

OLIGARCHS


This author has a very good definition which applies nicely to the Banksters and Mercantilists. He is correct, together they form the oligarchs who are intent on controlling the world.


The Parasite Class

An oligarch is someone who has amassed immense wealth and converted it into political and social authority

The question is how does one become an oligarch? The suggestion is that some achieve oligarch status due to their shrewd business acumen. Many people are astute in business but that alone is not enough to rise to the oligarchy.👉In order to be an oligarch you have to be accepted by the other oligarchs. If oligarchs oppose you, your business will probably be crushed, or at least severely restricted, and access to political authority or social influence will be stifled…👈

PROPAGANDA


We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
William J. Casey, CIA Director.

This quote was originally spoken by Casey sometime in early February of 1981, at a meeting in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, at which the White House policy analyst Barbara Honegger was present (who was then acting as Assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser to the President). She then relayed it to her Godmother, the Senior White House Correspondent Sarah McClendon, who made the quote public without naming the original source, through the Radio host Mae Brussel. — LINK


The primary tool that the Cabal (oligarchs) use against us is propaganda. This is why the EU and WEF are pushing so hard to clamp down on the truth and to get censorship re-installed in the USA and around the world.

10 ways the EU is fighting disinformation | by European Commission

Countering online disinformation is one of the biggest challenges democracies face today.

The European Union is listening to the concerns raised and taking serious action to counter the phenomenon. Here are 10 things the EU is doing to tackle disinformation: …The EU has a dedicated team, whose job it is to identify examples of disinformation targeting the EU and its citizens….


Top European Union Official Sends Letter to Elon Musk – DEMAND X Owner Elon Musk CENSOR President Donald Trump During Upcoming Interview Tonight

…The letter was sent by Thierry Breton and was dated August 12, 2024.

Thierry Breton is a French business executive, politician, writer and the current Commissioner for Internal Market of the European Union. In the letter, Thierry warns Elon Musk, “You have the legal obligation to ensure X’s compliance with EU law and in particular the DSA in the EU.”

Since when do Americans have to comply with EU law?

And what right does the EU have to censor OUR political candidates?


The Clear and Present Danger of Disinformation World Economic Forum Jan 2023

Speakers: Arthur Gregg Sulzberger, Vera Jourová, Jeanne Bourgault, Brian Stelter

Description:

How can the public, regulators and social media companies better collaborate to tackle disinformation, as information pollution spreads at unprecedented speed and scale?


Disinformation is a rising tide. Here’s how to address it


Disinformation is a growing crisis. Governments, business and individuals can help stem the tide

World Economic Forum’s Prioritizes “Disinformation” Over Economic and Global Stability Threats

WEF’s Global Risks Report 2025 downplays economic threats while pushing disinformation fears to justify tighter control and global governance.


And then there was the absolutely CLASSIC LIE of  British Prime Minister Keir Starmer to President Trump and VP Vance.


We’ve had free speaks for a very very long time in the United Kingdom and it will last for a very very long time.
– Starmer


Starmer gets the Trump stink eye.

Paul Joseph Watson showcasing Starmer’s lie. (9minutes) H/T Kea


In the USA, once the Central Bank was in place in 1913 the Cabal took over the media.

“In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, ship building and powder interests and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press in the United States. LINK

Obama took it a step further.

Obama repealed this 1948 act so he could flood our media with endless propaganda


…Obama might have slithered out of the White House without a flashy “legacy” tag, but he sure did leave a mess. It’s as if he was the Dems and Deep State’s MVP, playing a long game we’re still trying to wrap our heads around. He wasn’t just about making policy changes; he was on a mission to infiltrate every corner of our sacred institutions and flip them inside out for his—and their—advantage. Just look what he did by weaponizing the intel community, churches, health care, and so much more… back in 2013, he made a move to ditch the Smith-Mundt Act, basically rolling out the red carpet for propaganda in our national media. This wasn’t just a small change; it was a game changer for how stories are told and sold to us to this day

Limited Hangouts

This is an absolutely critical concept because it is used to derail the curious.

Valerie Curren brought up Patriot Victory 2024 @GetTheFacts2025

https://xcancel.com/GetTheFacts2025

Every patriot should be reading “Destroying America: The CIA’s Quest to Control the Government.”

Official documents state CIA officers are “detailed by the CIA” to be Secret Service agents…

About link:

https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/destroying-america-the-cias-quest-to-control-the-government/


Paperback sample link. Want to know what happened to California? CIA put LSD in the food of Americans from 1953 to 1963… DARN! Amazon will not allow me to link to the page with the sample so you will have to look at the samples for the kindle version and the paperback. (They are different.)


After reading that, I realized that it was very similar to Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by former?? CIA Agent Kent Clizbe. Kent connected with me via Tony Heller’s site and gave me a free PDF of his draft over ten years ago. He even gave me his phone number! 🤔

In both cases our focus is directed towards the communists and NOT the Brits Fabian Society. Colonel Towner mentions the CIA uses the communists as their ‘Boogeyman’ in order to justify their regime change coups. The coups are NOT about ‘democracy’ but about helping the Transnational corporations, her ‘International Syndicate,’ acquire raw materials and cheap labor.

Whether these men know it or not they are purveyors of the type of propaganda called a ‘Limited Hang-out’

Piercing the Veil of Limited Hangouts: Know How to Spot Controlled Opposition

The best weapon you can have in the Second American Revolution is the ability to think clearly and critically. The Deep State has been working hard to keep Americans from real truth–from the inside job of 9-11, to the human trafficking and blackmail operations that keep our elected officials in tow, to the U.S. Patent Office theft of hundreds of patents from social media to free energy. What many people do not know is that it is legal to propagandize and terrorize Americans thanks to the NDAA…

One area of propaganda that you may not be aware of is something called controlled opposition, also known as limited or partial hangouts.

Wikipedia defines these as:

limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Victor Marchetti, “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.”…


False Flags are Legal Propaganda

This article originally appeared on State of the Nation as False Flags are Legal Propaganda by the Department of Defense on January 18, 2016.

….This question would go through our minds every time we would see a new false flag event plastered all over the media. Like many of you, we would think, “It has to be real, otherwise the government and participants would be engaging in treason.” But the narrative and the evidence never seem to match up.

It even seemed that the “official story” that was “fed” to the news agencies was filled with holes on purpose. When 450 responders showed up in San Bernardino, including FEMA, ATF, Homeland Security, FBI, DoD, and all local agencies, within 14 minutes and had their lawn chairs and coolers set up while most of them walked around aimlessly with no worries in the world, we couldn’t take it anymore. We had always known that “false flags” usually precede severe military action and we couldn’t really imagine military action within US domestic borders since the military is not empowered to act against its own citizens.

Therefore, we decided to WAKE UP and study the false flag phenomena. Don’t presume to think this is just another conspiracy theory article. What you will read will chill you to the bone. We know this is a long article, but while you were sleeping much has been done to destroy your country. You need to see the immense work that is being done behind your back…


Astroturf Terrorism


Strategy of Tension’
It is important to understand this concept. The world we live in today operates on a strategy of tension. Most people do not know enough history to realize that if you look at a world map of 1910 and you look at a world map of 1950 there are a lot of ‘made-up countries’ that did not exist in 1910.
— Colonel Towner

Colonel Towner goes on to say that after WWII when the maps of Europe and the Middle East were redrawn, incompatible groups were placed together in one country. This guaranteed conflicts within a country could easily be ignited.


9/28/2008 — Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

….The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis

In an earlier post, I noted the liberal record of unmitigated legislative disasters, the latest of which is now being played out in the financial markets before our eyes. Before the 1994 Republican takeover, Democrats had sixty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress – with substantial majorities most of the time. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?

Why?

One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit….

I have already introduced Colonel Towner and Operation Gladio to the Qtree in other articles, this is another author who documents how Operation Gladio was revealed:

Operation Gladio – Hard Evidence of Government Sponsored False Flag Terrorism.

By Ian Davis.

Operation Gladio was formally revealed in 1990 by the Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti in an official statement to the Italian parliament. By then, Gladio had already been exposed in the courts and elsewhere, but Andreotti’s ‘official’ revelations widely exposed the unpalatable reality. Italian investigations, into the ‘Years of Lead‘, revealed NATO’s hand in a series of terrorist atrocities that had taken place in Italy throughout the 1950s to the 1980s. These included bombings, assassinations, kidnappings and mass shootings by terrorist organisations. There is no doubt that elements within the NATO deep state were routinely using false flag terrorism to control and manipulate public opinion and shape policy.

This is not the speculation of ‘looney conspiracy theorists,’ it is proven, well documented historical fact…

Following the end of WWII, both the U.S. and British intelligence agencies

The co-option of Nazi technological and scientific expertise was enabled through Operation Paperclip. Top Nazi scientists, intelligence operatives, engineers and military strategists were either protected from prosecution or resettled in the U.S. and elsewhere. Authorised by President Truman in 1946, who stipulated that no committed National Socialists should be co-opted, the secret operation nonetheless supported many fervent Nazis….

Valierie pointed to this Book: “Destroying America: The CIA’s Quest to Control the Government.”

DESTROYING AMERICA: The CIA’s Quest to Control the Government – Book Review

Meticulously sourced and rife with documentation from beginning to end, DESTROYING AMERICA details the CIA’s quest to control the government and shows how one Presidential Administration after another supported the egregious corruption in the CIA and government. It shows how Members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, are intricately involved in CIA corruption.

CIA officers and CIA “assets” have been targeted for the Presidency in Presidential races from 1964 to 2016, and there have been CIA officers in Congress since the earlyi950s.

Over the years, CIA officers in Congress have risen through the ranks to become some of the most powerful and influential members of Congress. They have ranged across the political spectrum from the far left to the far right…


An interesting side note based on information that Colonel Towner brought up. Obama’s mother worked for USAID. The CIA funded foreign students that they radicalized and used as part of their Werewolf Units in their home countries. Now think of Barack Obama, Sr. and Lolo Soetoro. BOTH were subversives. SEE: 2010

The Story of Obama: All in the Company

DEAR KMAG 20250305 USS LIBERTY & DAILY THREAD

The USS Liberty

Colonel Towner has mentioned on more than one occasion that God is guiding her. If she’s speaking and she comes to a dead end, someone in her audience pipes up with “Have you read…” and she is off and running again. The same has happened to me. I was wondering how I was going to move forward on the Mercantilism theme and pull a lot of threads together.

I have only listened to half a dozen or so of the 40-plus Gladio videos by Colonel Towner and Alpha Warrior. It is a daunting task to catch up, especially if I am going to transcribe at least a few parts of them. Yesterday my curiosity bone got the better of me, and I skipped ahead and listened to the first USAID video. Towards the end Colonel Towner said she would be covering Benghazi, and I thought she meant USAID Part II. So I skipped around listening to parts of the video looking for the Benghazi section, and landed in a spot where she mentioned she would be interviewing a survivor of the USS Liberty. I already knew something about the USS Liberty. With curiosity driving me and a bit more hunting I found The Colonel’s Corner Rumble Channel. I was so angry after listening to the first minutes, I posted a few bits to Sunday’s Dear MAGA: 20250302 Open Topic

Wolfie responded with:
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy(@wolfmoon1776) LINK

I still don’t buy that [prisoner murders] as being the reason for the attack on the Liberty. It’s too small-potatoes. IMO that rationale is post-failure disinformation from both Mossad and the USG, meant to muddy the waters. One of many bogus reasons that were floated.

IMO there was a concocted plot by Johnson (who was truly evil) and elements in Israel who wanted America to enter the war [THAT is the kind of reason they needed – like 9/11] and thought that an attack on am American ship would be just the thing he needed to get us in. The attack failed to take out the radio, and the betrayal of our own troops by Johnson failed.

IMO Johnson and his bad actors and allies were behind all the assassinations and false flags like Gulf of Tonkin.

Thus, I simply can’t blame the Israeli government, when our own was involved, too – and was arguably WORSE. AND – at the same time – none of this justifies the Palestinians, the Arab attackers, the terrorists, or the attack on Israel.

Johnson was an evil POS, who would gladly sacrifice a boat of innocent men for politics. FUCK HIM and everybody who plotted with him – American and Israeli.

These people have not quit, and they will not quit. I lay both 9/11 and Ukraine (WWIII, if they can get it) at their feet.

Wolfie was correct I got taken-in by the Prisoner massacre Limited Hang-out although Colonel Towner does mention it towards the end as one of the reasons. I had heard about the massacre several weeks prior to listening to the video. After reflecting on the entire video, and hearing Phil Tourney’s plea that the TRUE story be told, I decided to write this article.

If you want the short and sweet version of WHY the attack on the USS Liberty:


Israel’s dirty trade in Africa: Diamonds, weapons and settlements
by Hassan Al-Assi


Israel is considered one of the most important countries that import rough diamonds, and the most prominent countries that export polished diamonds. Most of these diamonds come from African countries such as South Africa, Liberia, Congo, Ivory Coast amongst others. These countries are directly linked to groups committing massacres against civilians in order to obtain diamonds, and trade with these diamonds leads to the death of tens of thousands of people annually in the countries of origin. The sale and export of these diamonds are linked to major arms deals, the creation of civil wars and financing the fighting groups. This has caused the diamond trade in Africa to be called the dirty trade, the jewels are called “blood diamonds” because the blood of thousands of Africans is shed in order to extract and market them…


This is from a UK publication with a decidedly Muslim slant. Therefore we have to see if there is supporting evidence.


From WIKI:

The diamond industry of Israel is an important world player in producing cut diamonds for wholesale. In 2010, Israel became the chair of the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme.[1] As of 2016, cut diamonds constituted 23.2% of Israel’s total exports and they were the country’s biggest export product, amounting to 12% of the world’s production.

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First, I urge everyone to actually listen to what this man has to say. (1hr 11 minutes)

I do not have the time to write a full transcript so a few key points… DARN IT! Oh well I got sucked in and did more of a transcript than I planned. So, as usual, I am going to split the material into two articles.


Very Rough Transcript. I am not going to put it in quotes.

3 minutes to 12 minutes: Colonel Towner mentions Lyman Lemnitzer, commander of the United Nations forces in the Korean War (1955–57.) He was Kennedy’s Joint Chief of Staff from 1960 to 1962. Kennedy wanted to get rid of him, but instead of firing the SOB, Kennedy, not knowing what NATO was up to, sent him to serve as the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe of NATO from 1963 to 1969. THIS IS WHILE NATO assassins were deployed to Texas. [He was one NASTY piece of work! GC]

Towner explains that de Gaulle and Kennedy were trying to oust the UK from Africa where the UK and Israel were stealing all the diamonds. Egypt and the Suez Canal were the buffer protecting Israel from retaliation by Africa. Egypt was under British control from 1882 to 1922. When Egypt gained independence, Nasser took control of the Suez Canal FROM the UK. So the UK moved to the Port of Aden in Yemen. Yemen is STILL fighting a two-front war today. Towner then goes into how the CIA was spying on the communication of most countries including Egypt. Therefore they KNEW Egypt was sending troops to help Yemen just prior to this travesty.

15 mins – Phil Tourney said Israel got antsy and started the war early, that is why we took off as quick as we did. The rest of the crew and I figured this was planned out probably a year in advance. We were set-up by our own government. We were going into a war zone and asked for destroyer escort twice and were denied by NoName’s Father,  Admiral John Sidney McCain Jr.

16 mins – Col Towner interrupts and say this is typical of the CIA & US Navy. They did the same thing to the USS Indianapolis in the pacific during WW II when they took the warheads over there. They left them without an escort KNOWING the subs were going to get them and then court-martialed the surviving Captain. The Navy is one of the most cruel ass… that has ever existed! … Phil’s story is NOT an isolated incident. This is why history is so important.

17 mins – Phil: We were 12.5 miles off the coast of the Sinai. (June 6th) We were ALWAYS in international waters. June 7th we see Israeli DC3s. We saw & waved at the pilots & they waved at us. Saw them on the 8th They were taking pictures of us. We only had four 50 caliber machine guns. We picked up messages that Israel KNEW we were an American Ship. We had a brand new flag and the ship had just been refurbished so it had a newly painted name.

21 mins – Phil Tourney starts describing the attack… You cannot imagine what they did to us. Rockets, cannons, napalm, machine guns… every [operational] antenna they hit on the first pass. Within 3 seconds every antenna and every water tight door above the water line was destroyed. One antenna that was out of commission was not destroyed. The air attack lasted for 25 minutes. They used unmarked black planes. [French made.] At least 12 planes and 30 sorties. On the first pass they shot down the US flag. Sailors put up another brand new one. Shot that down. Put up HUGE holiday flag that stayed up. During those 25 minutes the ship got a message out by repairing the last antenna.

25 mins — Col Towner points out that those sailors went out while those planes were raining fire to put up a flag so it was a KNOWN attack on an American ship in international waters. THIS IS CRITICAL TO THE STORY. [She explains the Flag is very important because it means you cannot call it a mistaken ID -GC]

26 min Phil: Our radio message was picked up as far away as Vietnam. The 6th Fleet picked it up. Captain Tully of the USS Saratoga immediately launched aircraft to come to our aid. They were called back by [US Secretary of Defense] Robert McNamara. A few minutes later Captain Tully & Captain Ingen of the USS America went to launched planes again. Before they could get underway, President Johnson got on the air and said RECALL THOSE GOD DAMN PLANES, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A FEW DEAD SAILORS, I WILL NOT EMBARRASS MY ALLY!

Phil: So how did he know who was attacking us if WE DID NOT KNOW?


So that right there tells you we were set up to be sunk by the Zionist State in order to bring us into WW III.

29 mins — Colonel Towner points out that the USS Liberty’s actual mission was to spy on the African countries trying to free themselves from the US and European piranhas. The sacrifice of the USS Liberty was about setting up a regime change in Egypt and destroying the evidence of the spying.

30 mins – Phil: The Aircraft attack was followed by an attack by 3 torpedo boats with the Star of David. The boats fired five torpedoes from 1000, 800 yards away. Two went aft, one hit the communication spaces, don’t know where the others went. Colonel Towner suggests it was to get rid of evidence. The attack went on for another hour and a half. The total attack lasted 2 hours. Help was only 40 minutes away but the US government would not allow help. They left us for 17 hours. The USS America and the destroyer USS David finally showed up…. We had 34 dead and 174 wounded….

34 min — Phil: The Israeli torpedo boats continuously circled the ship, firing 50-caliber machine guns and armor-piercing rounds into us. We thought we were going to sink. We put the most seriously wounded into the three life rafts we had left. The Israelis shot two of them out of the water and took the last on board their boat as a trophy of their kill. [REMEMBER THOSE BOATS WOULD HAVE THE NAME AND USA DESIGNATION PRINTED ON IT!!! SEE: 46 CFR § 199.176 – Markings on lifesaving appliances. current — GC]

Also lifeboats are protected and the Israelis DAMN WELL KNEW IT!

Convention (II) for the Amelioration of the Condition of Wounded, Sick and Shipwrecked Members of Armed Forces at Sea. Geneva, 12 August 1949.

A. Introduction

2149  The protection of ‘small craft employed … for coastal rescue operations’ is not surprising, because they have long rendered assistance to those in distress at sea, whether civilians or wounded, sick or shipwrecked persons protected under the applicable provisions of international humanitarian law. In numerous States, rescue craft were, and continue to be, operated by coastal municipalities, private associations, individual volunteers or State organs, whether the armed forces or other governmental institutions. The vessels employed for life-saving purposes range from rowing and rubber boats to technologically sophisticated craft that can operate far off the coast and in difficult sea conditions…..

a. Additional Protocol I

2168  While Article 22(3) of Additional Protocol I does not modify the substantive protection afforded to coastal rescue craft, it removes an important procedural requirement of the Second Convention, by providing that:

Small craft described in Article 27 of the Second Convention shall be protected even if the notification envisaged by that Article 27 has not been made. The Parties to the conflict are, nevertheless, invited to inform each other of any details of such craft which will facilitate their identification and recognition….


They wanted NO SURVIVORS.
It was the grace of God, the Hand of God that kept that ship up. We were just his servants that day. He deserves all the credit. Jesus Christ does. He kept us alive for moments like this. To tell the truth. — Phil Tourney


36 min — Colonel Towner makes clear that command knew that the USS Liberty was under attack. She says that within 5 minutes of the attack, via relays, London, Spain (where the ship was launched from), the Secretary of Defense’s office, the White House, CIA, NSA… would ALL KNOW that the USS Liberty was under attack, AND FOR SEVENTEEN HOURS THE US GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO A FUCKING THING TO HELP THEM!

37:30 Phil: Two days after the attack we were headed to Malta which is 1,000 miles away. We have a 40X40 torpedo hole in our side. The closest port was Crete [~400 miles or less – GC]. We never could figure that one out.

Flag admiral Isaac Kidd & his Jag officer came on board and interrogated what crew was left aboard the ship….

[Side Note:Kidd was Supreme Allied Commander of NATO‘s Atlantic Fleet. In 1967, he was chosen by his friend and colleague Admiral John S. McCain Jr. to head the Naval Court of Inquiry into the USS Liberty incident during the Six-Day War in June of that year ” – WIKI]

We are in sick bay, he takes off his stars and tosses them on the table. He says I know you guys have been thru hell but I have got to get this while it is fresh in your mind. Tell me everything that happened…. Then he said, I am putting my stars back on. I had asked him, “Admiral how come you did not send help?”

He puts his stars back on and said:

I am going to tell every one of you Sons of Bitches. And he got right in my face. If you ever breath a word about what you just told me, any of you, I will make sure you end up in prison or worse!! Do you know what WORSE MEANS? [Phil explains it means DEAD. -GC]

Yes sir I do…. I didn’t talk of it for 18 years.

I had to sign an agreement I would never sue Israel or the USA and they gave me $200 bucks for my signature and said SIGN IT!

42 Min — Colonel Towner tells why they were sent to Malta instead of Crete. Crete is part of Greece. Greece is part of NATO and NATO is who attacked you guys. You would have talked to Greek citizens and all of this would have been exposed. Malta has always been used since WWII to hide their criminally. Because it is isolated everything around you was controlled. No one was allowed access that was not a part of the scheme. That could not have happened in Crete. Phil agrees.

We were there for 33 days. Lists damage. There was NO [REAL] investigation. By orders of John McCain & LBJ it was called mistaken identity…. Every one from LBJ to Trump has bought that crap….

We were sent there to be sunk by Israel so they could blame it on Nasser and Egypt. And Israel would have taken over the entire Middle East. The land grab they are doing now would have happened then.

46 min — Col Towner Holds up book Operation Cyanide [2003 by British journalist Peter Hounam] He documents the B-52s sitting on the tarmac being given the ready mission to start their engines to fly. This was BEFORE the first bombing [of the USS Liberty] ….

Phil: If you write congress be ready to be lied to… they never investigated…

As Thomas Massie said Everybody’s got an AIPAC handler and I guess they had them back then too….


Phil is correct. American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs was founded in 1951 It later changed it’s name to American Israel Public Affairs Committee [AIPAC] Source Watch:

49 min — Col Towner. So that brings us to the last point. During the last five years there have been three instances revealed. The Ross Setter massacre that happened on June 8th of 1967. The Mass grave on the West Bank, which Israel turned into a national park. Another mass grave was discover on 5 June, which would have been part of the 6 day war. And the E-L-E-L-A-R-I-S-H massacre. That one happened… where the USS Liberty was. They were sailing in Egyptian international water right north of this town El Arish. This is where the Israelis murdered prisoners of war and buried them…. So during the course of their surveillance of this war zone Mass Murder by the IDF was happening along the coast.

This is not isolated. It was just like we did in Vietnam, in Nicaragua, in Guatemala. The USA has done this as well. We have buried people in mass graves. It happened in Cambodia. The CIA unleashed terrorists that resulted in casualties that resulted in mass graves. This is what Israel was participating in and it is my summation that because of the SIGINET, the advanced capability, all that information would have been picked up by the linguist and transmitted.

THIS IS CRITICAL. There would be no denying that the USA and all of NATO knew the atrocities that Israel was committing and the USS Translators, not the crew were instantly murdered when that torpedo hit that boat. They would be the sole surviving people who could attest to those atrocities….

Who benefited from it?

Israel ended up with All of Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula. They go to war again in 73 and then they have a peace settlement in 1979. The massacre in the Golan Heights happened right after the USS Liberty was taken out. That is not unlike what just happened with the Hamas Attack on Israel on October 7. It was not an immediate response to Gaza, just like for Israel, it was not an immediate attack in response. Well they did the initial attack in Egypt, but they did it at the same time all over. They’re conquering all of the surrounding area.

That is what it is ALWAYS ABOUT. It is a DIVERSION OVER HERE to go over here.

[What Col Towner is talking about is an incident in one middle east country is then used to attack several others. We just saw this with Gaza, the attacks spread to Iran, Jordan, Syria and Yemen. When everything is over, Israel will end up expanding into more areas. LINK – GC]

You have to understand they have an ultimate goal. Any one who is in the way of that ultimate goal is fair game for being killed.

54 min — Phil: We were sacrificial lambs, the soldiers were sacrificial lambs and the goal was a land grab…. Our goal is to tell the truth…. They got paid MORE MONEY BY THE UNITED STATES then they ever did in their existence FOR MURDERING AMERICAN SERVICEMEN on the high seas doing what their government had ordered them to do.

Talk about this is the first time they are able to get the word out and this is not the first betrayal. The press never helped us, the government never helped us, Congress never helped us. No one came to help us.

IN FACT THE AMERICAN LEGION? We had 2 men there… 5 or 6 years ago. [to set-up] a booth handing out our stuff about the USS Liberty. They would not let us have a booth. We sent a $1,000 for the booth. They said they never got the check. So we said OK we will pay cash or credit card… Then they said NO!! YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE!

56:30 Col Towner: The American Legion is notorious for being part of the collusion of the CIA to STIFLE VETERANS ISSUES.

Phil : Absolutely. Glenn… tore his American Legion Card up and sprinkled it on a woman’s chest, her boobs. He did not throw it at her. So they arrested him for assault and put him in jail. He still has it on his record. The USS Liberty is BANNED from ever attending any of their meetings….

Col Towner: Let me ask you something that was in Peter’s [Hounam] book. He documents the fact that a USS submarine was basically shadowing you guys and that there was also a Russian submarine that watched the torpedo portion of this. And I have read other accounts of this that they gave up the final attack on sinking the USS Liberty because now there were other witnesses.

58:20 Phil: that could very well be so. The USS Amberjack, [Gato-class submarine – GC] we heard filmed it. And the USS Andrew Jackson [Lafayette-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine – GC] was there also. And as you mentioned a Russian submarine that was ready to hit Israel, only minutes away if everything went as planned. They were going to Nuke Israel for what they were doing to Egypt. Us not sinking put a wrench in their plans. I bet they are still scratching their heads…

59 min — Col Towner: I have done a lot of research into Gladio and Gladio being basically regime change overthrow with over 90 of them successful since WWII. Over 400 of them attempted.

What you always find looming in the background, like when we were trying to do it in Algeria and several Eastern European countries immediately after WWII. The Soviet Union had spies everywhere and they were able to thwart most of it… The story of the Russian sub, after knowing what I know about the Soviet Union always seeming to be one step ahead in protection … When I read about the Russian sub, I thought “Well that is interesting,” because I wonder if they were actually there because they knew what NATO was going to do to the USS Liberty and if they would have used it for blackmail. If the Liberty had sunk, they would forever have had the ability to control a whole bunch of different things, They would have had blackmail material. And maybe they used it anyway because they KNEW WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM.

1hr 1 min — Phil: Absolutely. They knew exactly what was going on. Russia is not stupid….

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Commenter BridgetGray posted photos of the USS Liberty.

https://twitter.com/winggal_123/status/1888266685141930057?s=61

The Liberty Survivors website is:

https://ussliberty.org

Lots of info. at the site.

Phil requests donations.

Liberty Veterans Association
PO Box 3000
Pawley’s Island, SC 29585

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A bit more about the USS Liberty.

Why a BBC documentary while Americans are kept in the dark?🤔

“USS Liberty: Dead In The Water” (1 hr BBC Documentary 2002)

OPERATION CYANIDE – An Israeli-American False Flag Operation Aimed At Egypt

…Jets armed with nuclear bombs were actually scrambled from the carrier USS America with orders to nuke Cairo.  Once Defense Secretary McNamara and Lying Bastard Johnson realized that the Liberty had not sunk, and that U.S. eyewitnesses were not only alive, but were actually communicating with other American ships, the U.S. jets carrying the nukes were recalled to their carrier by direct orders from McNamara and Johnson….

The Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty — Paul Craig Roberts

After reading this I now understand why Dr Roberts has no love of Israel.

This article is based entirely on documented sources and on interviews with six USS Liberty survivors, as well as Captain Ward Boston and Bill Knutson, the executive officer of the USS America fighter squadron dispatched on the first aborted rescue mission.

For a number of years Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was my colleague at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Tom… expressed to me his concern that US politics and foreign policy was in the clutches of Israel and that America was being led into war with the Arab Middle East. Admiral Moorer and the State Department and Pentagon at that time did not think that war with the Arab countries served the interests of the United States. However, Admiral Moorer thought that the war could not be avoided because of the hold Israel has over the US government.

What convinced him of this was Washington’s cover-up of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty which resulted in 208 killed and wounded Americans. Tom was disheartened that Admiral John S. McCain Jr…. for career reasons had cooperated with the cover-up. Tom worried that careerism had destroyed the integrity of the US military…

I had already seen that Admiral Moorer’s prediction that Israel would have us in war against the Arabs had come true. I still hear his bitter statement that “no American president can stand up to Israel.” Tom was deeply wounded by the betrayal of the US Navy by the Commander-in-Chief. The Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff was powerless before the Israel Lobby.

The US government’s official position on the USS Liberty corresponds with Israel’s: The attack was unintentional and a result of Israeli blunders. This is the official position despite the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Assistant Secretary of State Lucius Battle, and a long list of US Navy officers, government officials and Liberty survivors are on record saying the Israeli attack was intentional…

Survivors with whom I spoke said the attack was the easy part of the experience. The hard part has been living with 40 years of official cover-up and betrayal by the US government. One survivor said that he was asked to leave his Baptist church when he spoke about the Liberty, because the minister and fellow church-goers felt more loyalty to Israel than to a member of the congregation who had served his country. His church’s position was that if our government believed Israel, the survivors should also….

A State Secret: The Closest the U.S. Ever Came to a Nuclear Confrontation: June 8, 1967

…on June 8, 1967 two A-4 bomber aircraft loaded with nuclear bombs were dispatched from the aircraft carrier USS America, bound for Cairo with orders to drop those bombs on that city.[1]…

…According to Mike Ratigan, who served on board that carrier as a center-deck catapult operator responsible for maintaining the catapult in working order. He remembered the call to general quarters (battle stations) in the early afternoon of June 8, 1967, later learning that this was due to the attack on the Liberty. The A-4 bombers were each fitted with two bombs having a gold-colored tip, a type that he had never seen before: “I’d never seen that particular type of ordnance, and as we had gone into Condition November (notice of imminent nuclear war) subsequent to being in general quarters, it was definitely not a drill. Marine guards were escorting the A-4, and that was a very unusual experience. I’d never seen anything like that in the four years that I was in the Navy as a Cat operator.”….

Dear KMAG: 20250303 Trump Won Three Times ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

terrine

noun

  • earthenware jar or dish
  • a covered clay pot or mold
  • a traditional French dish
  • a loaf of forcemeat or aspic cooked in a terrine
  • a loaf-shaped, layered, savory dish of meat or fish and sometimes vegetables, cooked in a water bath and served cold

Used in a sentence

She cooked the terrine in an actual French terrine, this time, instead of the Pyrex dish she had always used before.

Shown in a picture

Described in a recipe

https://www.labonnecuisine.be/terrine-de-lapin-la-merveilleuse-idee-connaitre/

Shown in a video


MUSIC!

OK, this is interesting – a mixture of Jefferson Airplane, epic music, and Matrix visuals.

Which led me to another…..

Which led me back to the original. Which seems very strange now.


THE STUFF

Why is AI being used to create fake stories about Elon Musk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbtjpaVAbWY

I find this sort of fake story to be much more annoying that AI country music.

OK – let’s wash that away with some reality – the study of “perfect” numbers! (I may have played this topic before, but whatever – let’s play it again!)

Six is a pretty cool number – but 28? And 496? And (2^82,589,933 – 1)?

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


DEAR KMAG 20241016 DAILY THREAD & ISRAEL

Marina Abramovic & Lord Jacob Rothschild standing before the painting Satan Summoning his Legions (1797)

Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet.”

Heinrich Heine

Before this last decade I had a major distrust of the British Empire and the City of London. I was aware that American Churches had been effectively neutered thanks to LBJ’s 501c3 LINK, but it was not until the Trump Decade that I realized just how EVIL the Cabal is and how much we have been lied to about EVERYTHING! Therefore I try to look at everything via a ‘suspicious cat’ point of view. That is my jumping off point. I no longer TRUST anything HUMANS say without a long hard look at it. I also want to make it very clear I am NOT a biblical scholar like my Dad was. So this is very, very rough peek at this possible argument. I am more concerned with the in your face EVIL I am seeing.

In the discussion of my next to last article I was sent by Smiley: 8 Biblical Reasons to Stand with Israel Today

As a side note, I did a bit of digging:

Jack Hayford is the founding pastor”

Jack Hayford ==>  International Church of the Foursquare Gospel ==>  Aimee Semple McPherson.

McPherson was born Aimee Elizabeth Kennedy in Salford, Ontario, Canada, (1871–1947) McPherson married Robert James Semple, a Pentecostal missionary from Ireland. She was born just six years after Booth’s mysterious trip to Montreal as a precursor to Lincoln’s April 1865 assassination.

CANADA

With Confederation and the passage of the British North America Act, 1867, Canada’s Parliament was still legally under the authority of the British Parliament. By 1949, Canada had become fully sovereign in relation to Great Britain. This was due to landmark legislation such as the Statute of Westminster (1931). The Constitution Act, 1982 swept away Britain’s leftover authority…

So in my mind the first strike is the connection to the British Empire. I want to be very clear. This is NOT against the person but against the influence that may have been exerted by the Cabal. Remember those whose messages they approve get promoted to the public. Others they disapprove of they squash and even go to the effort of killing the messenger if needed. I have had 2 up close and personal experiences with the Cabal’s handy work in that regard.

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These are some of the Biblical references in the article Smiley recommended. I am using the King James version since that is the Bible I was given at Confirmation.

Deuteronomy 32:43 [Old Testament]

Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

2 Chronicles 7:20 [Old Testament]

Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?

Ezekiel 38:16 [Old Testament]

And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes

And is not the return of the Son of God a very enticing thought for Christians? Can this enticing and seductive thought be used by the Satanists to manipulate Christians into doing as they wish?

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THE ALTERNATE POSSIBILITY:

Hosea 9:3 [Old Testament]

They shall not dwell in the Lord’s land; But Ephraim shall return to Egypt, And they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.

Sometimes Ephraim is used to mean Israel.

Ephraim was the second son of Joseph and a grandson of Jacob…

The tribe of Ephraim was chastised for idolatry (Hosea 4:17) and their partnership with heathen nations (Hosea 12:1). The tribe of Ephraim was taken into captivity by the Assyrians in 722 BC when the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered. Even so, the Lord declared, “Is not Ephraim my dear son, the child in whom I delight? Though I often speak against him, I still remember him. Therefore my heart yearns for him; I have great compassion for him” (Jeremiah 31:20).

Notable figures from the tribe of Ephraim include Joshua (Joshua 19:50); Samuel (1 Samuel 1:1) and Jeroboam I, the first king of the divided kingdom in the north (1 Kings 12:25). After the Babylonian captivity, some of the descendants of Ephraim resettled in Jerusalem (1 Chronicles 9:3).Got Questions Org

Assyria according to Britannica:


Reform Judaism

Reform Judaism, a religious movement that has modified or abandoned many traditional Jewish beliefs, laws, and practices in an effort to adapt Judaism to the changed social, political, and cultural conditions of the modern world. [Heathen Nations? — GC]

Reform Judaism sets itself at variance with Orthodox Judaism by challenging the binding force of ritual, laws, and customs set down in the Bible and in certain books of rabbinic origin (e.g., the Talmud).

The movement began early in the 19th century, in Germany, with appeals from laymen for an updating of the Jewish liturgy and other rituals. With the liberation of Jews from their ghettos, many Jews began to question their allegiance to such traditions as restrictive dietary laws, prayers in Hebrew, and the wearing of special outfits that set them apart as Jews. Many felt that Judaism would lose Jews to other religions if steps were not taken to bring Judaism into the 19th century…

Daily public worship was abandoned; work was permitted on the Sabbath; and 👉dietary laws (kashrut) were declared obsolete.👈

“…And they shall eat unclean things in Assyria…

Was this not what the two Orthodox Rabbis were gently pointing out when they said it was Zionists, Reformed Jews and Secular Jews who set-up Israel?

AND

Revelation 2:9: [New Testament]

 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9:

Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie….

If they are NOT following the teachings of the Old Testament, if “… they shall eat unclean things in Assyria...” then how can they be the Jews of prophesy?

Also:

Isaiah 19 contains a prophecy regarding Assyria that describes the condition of the Middle East during the millennial reign of Christ. The repeated phrase in that day in Isaiah 19 is a reference to the day of the Lord, when He sets all things right. According to Isaiah’s prophecy, Assyria (modern Iraq) will join Egypt and Israel in serving the Lord (Isaiah 19:23), and there will be political unity among Egypt, Israel, and Assyria. All three nations will be blessed by God (verse 25) and be a blessing to other nations (verse 24). Jesus truly is the Prince of Peace who can bring unity to these three former enemies. Because of Jesus, the future of Assyria is bright. — Got Questions Org

Three former enemies, NOT crushed and destroyed but unified and BLESSED!

The Abraham Accords anyone?

The Guardian: Saudi leaders hail Trump visit as ‘reset of regional order

In addition to proposing a series of deals, 👉Saudi officials have also accepted a central theme of Trump’s visit of tackling radicalism.👈 Saudi Arabia had been accused by the Obama administration of proselytising an extreme Wahhabi view of Islam…

MARK 10: 13-14 & 17-19

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. 

14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven…

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself….

If You are paying for bullets, as my co-workers were, to murder others, are you not also a murderer? If you agree with YOUR tax money being used to murder babies and toddlers, rape women and commit atrocities, are you not complicit? YOUR money is paying for not only the murder but the torture of women and children.

When the Israeli soldiers talked of stuffing Palestinians into a barrel and shooting the barrel do you think they were talking about adults? Or is it a lot more likely it was babies and toddlers that filled that barrel? Should Christians pray in front of abortion clinics where NON-CHRISTIANS are having abortions, but have ZERO problem with torturing babes & toddlers some of whom were possibly CHRISTIANS?? All because they hope the Zionist invasion of Palestine is the prophesied return of Jews to the Holy Land?

I am hoping that this at least makes you THINK instead of blindly following what another human is saying based on their understanding of the Bible.

Q 916 “We are saving ISRAEL for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time.”

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Now on to the evidence of EVIL

I have already covered the Rothschilds in a previous article LINK. And I covered Kissinger’s National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200 as part of the depopulation series.

Kissinger’s Public Confession as an Agent of British Influence:

…American memories were longer: The First World War was a temporary exertion, after which we withdrew into isolationism; during the ’20s the U.S. Navy Department still maintained a “Red Plan”👉 to deal with the contingency of conflict with the British fleet.👈

It was not until the war with Hitler that the gap closed permanently….

…Bevin, the unlikely originator of this revolution in British diplomacy, shrewdly calculated that Britain was not powerful enough to influence American policy by conventional methods of pressure or balancing of risks. But by discreet advice, the wisdom of experience, and the presupposition of common aims, she could make herself indispensable, so that American leaders no longer thought of consultations with London as a special favor but as an inherent component of our own decision-making. The wartime habit of intimate, informal collaboration thus became a permanent practice…

The British were so matter-of-factly helpful that they became a participant in internal American deliberations, to a degree probably never before practiced between sovereign nations. In my period in office, the British played a seminal part in certain American bilateral negotiations with the Soviet Union—indeed, they helped draft the key document. 👉 In my White House incarnation then, I kept the British Foreign Office better informed and more closely engaged than I did the American State Department…👈

So It was not until WWII that Americans ‘forgot’ the British Empire was our long time enemy. Funny how this happened AFTER John Dewey’s Progressive education system (start 1915) had been in place for a generation along with the Banksters takeover of the Media ( start 1915) Of course it doesn’t hurt that the City of London now had a choke hold on US politicians via the US Debt and political funding. So after WWII, with their agents embedded in our government, the USA became the City of London’s source of cash and cannon fodder to toss at their endless wealth generating wars.

Henry Kissinger, the first Jewish U.S. secretary of state, stated — “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.”

Remembering my late friend former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger

Sept. 18, 2012, I reported — and I quote him exactly: “In 10 years there will be no more Israel.” In 2005 he told me: “We will be going to war with Iran.”The hand that ruled the Western world is the hand that often stirred a good martini...

Seems electing Trump instead of Hillary derailed that plan. Or at least delayed it.

May 23, 2013 – Tablet Magazine

Henry Kissinger, who turns 90 this Monday, May 27, is one of the most influential Jews in American history—and one of the most controversial…

This brilliant refugee from Nazi Germany with the gravelly voice, Teutonic accent, and thick Poindexter glasses, embodied the pinnacle of a certain type of Jewish aspiration and achievement in 20th-century America, becoming a Harvard professor in 1954, Richard Nixon’s foreign-policy mastermind in 1969, and the first Jewish secretary of state in 1973, as well as the era’s most surprising sex symbol. For the past four decades, he has remained the dean of America’s foreign-policy establishment, advising presidents and foreign governments alike.

Just this month, at the Atlantic Council, Hillary Clinton wished him an early happy birthday.“Everywhere I go,” she said, “people talk to me about Henry.”….

Klaus Schwab’s Mentors Who Helped Create the World Economic Forum Are Revealed – G. Edward Griffin’s Need to Know News.

The World Economic Forum wasn’t the creation of Klaus Schwab, but was actually born out of a CIA-funded Harvard program headed by Henry Kissinger and pushed to fruition by John Kenneth Galbraith and Herman Kahn. All three men were members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Schwab is more than a technocrat and intends to fuse his physical and biological identities with future technology….

YUVAL HARARI


Yuval Harari is a professor in the Department of History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Yuval Noah Harari on Transhumanism and Eliminating Free Will: Hacking and Bioengineering Humans Using Biometric Data to Replace Evolution with Intelligent Design in Order to Re-Engineer Life

We are probably one of the last generations of Homo Sapiens because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies, and brains, and minds.”


Yuval Harari

YUVAL HARARI — A WEF GURU:  

Yuval Harari is a “guru” of the World Economic Forum — the WEF — the group of transhumanist, corporate technocrats who meet in Davos Switzerland each year to decide what direction the world should take in regard to whatever matter they choose to discuss. They believe that corporations and their selected leaders should rule the world rather than elected representatives of the people. They clearly wish to bypass sovereign, national governments, both democratic and communist. The gathering is led by the mysterious Klaus Schwab and many billionaires are invited to fly in on their private jets. Workers are not invited.

Harari is becoming influential and is listened to by many people anxious for thought leadership…. He is especially known as a promoter of “inorganic life” which seems to mean robots or the robotization of humans. That is transhumanism — the merging of humans and machines, guided by the philosophy that humans themselves are nothing but machines, some being “useful” and others “useless eaters”


Transcript from Yuval Noah Harari Speeches at Davos:

We are probably one of the last generations of Homo Sapiens because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies, and brains, and minds. Now how exactly will the future masters of the planet look like? This will be decided by the people who own the data. Now why is data so important? It’s important because we’ve reached the point when we can hack not just computers. We can hack human beings and other organisms….

I do not know about you, But I find Harari down right EVIL and Anti-God.

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Shlomo Sand: I wish to resign and cease considering myself a Jew

His past was Jewish, but today he sees Israel as one of the most racist societies in the western world. Historian Shlomo Sand explains why….Deconstructing the Foundational Myths of Israel.

The basic foundational myths (of a verifiable historical variety) are twofold: Firstly, that Jews were expelled from the Holy Land by the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and then dispersed to various geographical locations around the Mediterranean and beyond. Secondly, that the present-day Jewish citizens of the State of Israel are by and large the descendants of those early Jews… Sand points out, while the Roman Empire did brutally put down Jewish revolts in A.D. 70 and A.D. 135, the Romans were not in the business of ethnic cleansing….the Romans did not have the technological means to accomplish such a dastardly thing. So where did the Jewish diaspora come from? …The Jews living elsewhere are mainly the descendants of converted peoples. Ashkenazi Jews (Jews in Eastern Europe) are mainly descendants of Khazars whose King converted in the 8th Century. Sephardic Jews (on the Iberian Peninsula and north Africa) come from converted Berbers.

Most of those original Jews who remained in Israel under the Romans (and after them) converted — either for pragmatic or religious reasons — to Christianity or Islam. Thus, it follows — if it matters — that the closest genetic descendants of these Jews today would be the Palestinians who have lived there all along — not 20th century immigrants...

If Sands is correct the Zionists are busy killing the descendants of the biblical Jews.

Book review: Shlomo Sand’s “The Invention of the Jewish People”

….According to Sand, the destruction by the Romans of the Second Temple in 70 AD left the indigenous Jewish population of Judea and Samaria in place. “[T]he Romans never deported entire peoples. It did not pay to uproot the people of the land, the cultivators of produce, the taxpayers” (130). Furthermore, at that time there were already Jewish communities numbering up to four million persons in Persia, Egypt, Asia Minor and elsewhere (145). Palestine’s status as the unique “ancestral homeland” of the Jews collapses together with the myth of David and Solomon’s imposing kingdom.

Against the ethno-biological concept of a Jewish people — a “race” — whose linear descendants returned from exile to (re)found today’s Israel, Sand posits a religious community proliferating throughout and beyond the Mediterranean region by means of proselytism and conversion. He offers a detailed rebuttal of the conventional wisdom whereby “Judaism was never a proselytizing religion,” a view disseminated by historian Martin Goodman and others (150, note 42).

Most importantly, he concentrates attention on Khazaria, that “Strange Empire” that flourished in the Caspian region between the seventh and tenth centuries AD. By the eighth century the Khazars had adopted Hebrew as their sacred and written tongue, and “[a]t some stage between the mid-eighth and mid-ninth centuries, the[y] … adopted Jewish monotheism” (221). Sand speculates that this conversion was calculated to save them from absorption into either the Roman or the Islamic empires. The Khazars, he contends, engendered those Askhenazi Jews of central and eastern Europe who would later invent the myths of Zionism to justify their colonization of Palestine, a land to which they had no “ethnic” connection and where they remain the dominant elite….

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I was also told that Israel is a USA ally. However when an ‘ally’ repeatedly knifes you in the back, You are either their slave or an idiot but that is a subject for another article. However I will leave you with this from those WHO KNOW – Three Marines who served in the middle east.

I NEVER SAW AN ISRAELI ON THE FRONT LINES EVER! — Shane Hazel

Background on WHO Shane Hazel is who made that statement: 10:30 -20 mins It also includes the background of the other 2 marines.

At 19 min the paperwork showing Alpha was not even in DC when the FBI went after him for Jan 6th ‘wrong think.’

Rough transcript 49 – 54 minutes:

Alpha: When you see what is going on with Lebanon, with Israel…. you who has been in some of these briefs…

Shane: I hate to even say it… put that energy into the world…

You have Israel and you have the puppets here in the USA, … the entire cabinet is Israeli… They have no choice, right? They are going for broke they have to go for broke…. The underlying issue is currency, or money in general. If you understand anything about the Rothschilds being a banking conglomerate for over 3-400 years now… If you understand what usury is in terms of money. Any man who can print money out of thin air that everyone else has to work for? You basically have unlimited power… so if you need to buy a king, if you need to buy a cabinet, if you need to buy the police, if you need to buy the intelligence apparatus, if you need to buy the entire media apparatus… You are looking at a POWER that has been powerful in terms of concealing it’s self for an extremely long time.

And what is coming unglued is this fiat state. ISRAEL IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT FIAT. It was not possible with out the Rothschilds saying this is what we are going to do. There is a great video out there of this little Jewish guy who is interviewing Lord Rothschild. He has the letter from his grandfather basically stating this is what we are going to do as Zionists. Install a state down here in Jerusalem and we are going to call it Israel and we are going to move all these European Jews who are Ashkenazi who do not have ANY blood relationship [with Biblical Jews]… And now that banking system is coming apart… The proof is BRICS. They are tired of being ripped off by the dollar and not being able to keep up with the treasuries.

And then you have this other GIGANTIC FORCE in the world that people do not understand called BITCOIN. It is NOT crypto. what it is doing is taking everything in terms of liquitiy and sucking it into this finite amount…. The US IRS has not been able to post a positive in over a year. So they literally have no income anymore. They are bankrupting. They are trying to print their way out of this and the only way they know, the only thing they know is WAR.

So they are looking at this Gaza land which is rich in oil & natural gas. And now they are looking at places in Syria which is rich in oil & natural gas. The northern part of the kingdom Kuiwat… What they have going on right now is the Greater Israel Project. You can see it on the patches, Trump even alluded to it… “Yeah maybe they need some more land”…

I think what we are seeing is not only the disintegration of our empire [actually the British Empire -GC] but the Banking Empire [aka City of London – GC] This is the people that have EXPLOITED THE WORLD, AND I MEAN THIS! That have EXPLOITED THE WORLD for hundreds of years and it is coming unglued. Not only is our empire falling their empire is falling and I think that is what you are seeing over there [in the middle east – GC]

They have to create this, there is no other way for them [Israel] to stand on their own. The unfortunate thing is they are trying to drag us into fighting their biggest foe again.

If you look at Iran, it is the Holy Grail it is the Gem of the Middle East. Operation Ajax in 1949… with the CIA, it is the first Coup that we know of. We have been after that Crown Jewel for a long time. I should say the Rothschilds have been after it for a long time. I think the fact that people are waking up is what gives me hope…. The push back [against congressmen wanting war in the middle east] is especially strong in the veteran community…

Look dude [Israel] , we fought these guys, we fought all your enemies in Iraq, we fought them in Syria, we did all this kind of shit for you guys and WHERE THE F..K WERE YOU??? I NEVER SAW AN ISRAELI ON THE FRONT LINE. EVER! They were on the sideline they didn’t show up, they didn’t do ANYTHING! They were like if we get involved there will be war on us too. It was like WHAT! You were the guys that gave us the intelligence to come over here in the first place…

Alpha and Brian are nodding and making noises in the background as he says this. They then chime in with their stories. And yes THEY never saw hide nor hair of our ‘Greatest Ally’ either. Other nationalities fighting for the Rothschilds yes, but never the Israelis.

NOW do you understand WHY the Arabs hate our guts? We were SET-UP! And just like the EU, those who hate us are being imported into our country. Depopulation 2.0 maybe?

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An additional thought. If you look at the UK – USA conflict history you have:

1976 – American Revolution

War of 1812

1861 – 1865 Civil War fomented by the City of London

1913 – Federal Reserve Act.

What I missed was the City of London/Rothschild set-up for embroiling the USA in endless wars. The US Civil war ended May 26, 1865 without the Rothschild/British Empire succeeding in gaining control of the USA thanks to the Russian Tzar. Lincoln was murdered and less than a year later the first assassination of Tzar Alexander II was attempted in April of 1866. By 1881 a Jewish Socialist who some say was a Rothschild agent, finally succeeded in killing the Tzar. Russian Jews suffered a severe backlash as a result. This gave the Rothschilds a reason to buy land in Palestine on behalf of others. This was the Rothschilds first step in creating Israel a useful source of endless wars.

Crackpottery vs. Skepticism

How to Distinguish a Key Principle of Reason, Logic and Science, from Irrational Exuberance in Contrarian Explanation


I really try to avoid using the term crackpot.

In science, the term crackpot is a bit like the terms Nazi, pedophile, and antisemite are in politics. The word freezes conversation. It strikes fear – often very unfairly – into all who are listening. Indeed, it is used in science for that very reason. Crackpot is very similar to the word crank, only worse. Using it in regards to a single person rarely helps, and using it against the wrong person can actually hurt – both the individual, and science as an enterprise.

As a young but very real scientist, I met MANY emerging young crackpots, who considered me a potential sounding board – and I like to think that I converted most of them to either outright scientists, or scientifically literate aficionados of real science. In fact, I don’t recall ANY junior crackpots who I could not make more logical and scientific by patience, understanding, and teaching of the sublime joys of REAL understanding and discovery.

More than that, was the GOOD that crackpots did for me. By patiently trying to understand what crackpots were saying, I invariably walked away a better scientist. Errors don’t just force you to ask ONE right question – they force you to ask MANY excellent questions. Sometimes it requires the patience of Job, but that’s just one more reason why reading my Bible has been so helpful.

Crackpottery, analyzed deeply, always leads back to real science, often including things I didn’t know, or didn’t know well enough. Most crackpot science is – in my experience, one of three things: (1) some very illustrative, useful, and “teachable” error, or (2) some well-known and very beautiful aspect of science or mathematics, which seems novel, but isn’t, or (3) some kind of “old science” which is very intuitive, but is now understood to be wrong.

Of course, there can be many layers of JUNK on top of the key scientific mistake, as the crackpot uses even more crackpot ideas to hold everything together, as the key idea fails. However, I would not want to laugh too loudly about such a dubious tactic, as “Bondo and paint” are also used very effectively in real science, politics, and law.

Sometimes, when discussing crackpottery in science, I like to say this.

“There is a potential scientist in every crackpot, and a potential crackpot in every scientist.”

I find that crackpot ideas are a great introduction to a conversation about real science. The trick is turning the exuberant crackpot away from the dopaminergic lust of superficial logical connections – and getting them addicted to the patient romance of deep conceptual relationships and understanding. If the latter reminds you of real love – Biblical, academic, humanitarian, or philosophical – you are absolutely right. I believe it is our duty, as people who LOVE science and math, to elevate crackpots from their trap, even if we fail, but in the process, to “teach to the fourth wall”. And that is exactly what I’m doing now.

The hot pants of OMG / string of buzzwords / “maybe this stuff is all related and I can see it” is the addictive pseudoscientific experience that crackpots cannot get out of their minds. But let them experience a “fellow scientist” showing them that they are TRULY CORRECT about something that they said, and how this idea was explored by famous scientists in history, and you can begin the process of instilling the DISCIPLINE that the crackpot so sorely needs.

Reforming a crackpot can take days, weeks, months or years. The key is to nurture the healthy joys that come from disciplined understanding, as a substitute for the toxic buzz of loose conjecture rooted in loose quasi-understanding.

Some crackpots are beyond help, and scientists who are teaching to more open minds (think about our own SteveInCO) cannot afford to waste their time on those few minds that will never attain self-skepticism within this lifetime. Walking away from crackpots who have very intentionally broken and super-glued the keys of reason in the corresponding locks, is simply necessary.

I get this. For all my criticisms of Neil deGrasse Tyson, and scientific disagreements with him, I completely understand his need to tell Terrence Howard to “move along, thank you” and to stop listening to the nonsensical ideas of Terryology.

Note that Joe Rogan does NOT get this, and he will need to be gently schooled on this point. I admire that Joe will listen to Terrence, but Joe is also a bit too easily swept up into Terrence’s world of delusional mumbo-jumbo.

LINK: https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-joe-rogan-questions-neil-degrasse-tyson-for-shunning-terrence-howard-after-not-taking-calls-from-hollywood-star

Terrence Howard and Terryology are where we begin this discussion.

To be brief, Terrence was known more as an actor than as a pseudoscientist, but when he appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience, he exploded into the national consciousness. I am including the entire 3-hour interview, but I strongly caution against watching the whole thing without having some of the context I’m going to provide. On the other hand, a few random clicks will give you the flavor in a most enlightening way.

Terrence Howard – Full Interview on The Joe Rogan Experience

Terrence Howard is clearly a nice guy, and I am certain that I could be his friend. We might even have some profound discussions about the periodic table, as he comes very close to real science there, and THAT is where I would strike to try to reform him (see sidebar in Appendix). However, he is unlikely to ever gain the discipline of self-skepticism, to temper his equally welcome skepticism of scientific orthodoxy. The best that can be done, is to use him as a living example of an important dysfunction in science, and to educate the masses by reacting to him.

Surprisingly, that works really well, and that’s why I’m here.

Terrence is (in my humble opinion) a living example of the idea that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

Terrence is an actor, but before that, he ALMOST became a scientist – specifically, a chemical engineer. However, at the exact moment when accepting some discipline from his teacher would have helped him become a true scientist, he rejected the teaching, and dropped out of school.

To get to the heart of that break, Terrence believes that, because 2 times 2 equals 4, 1 times 1 should equal 2. Now, I will admit that the feeling that something should be different is extremely useful in scientific discovery, but we also know from experience that should is extremely dangerous in almost any context. Psychologists routinely repair people by getting them to understand that their list of shoulds has grown too long and nonsensical to be mentally and physically healthy.

Terrence claims that the issue of this mathematical argument is why he dropped out of college – that his teacher could not accept this new form of math, which is part of what Terrence calls Terryology.

I have no idea if that account is true, or the full story, and I strongly suspect that Terrence was having more trouble than just a disagreement with his teacher over math. There is even some doubt that Terrence was ever in college, but let’s just set that aside, and assume that Terrence did start to attend college. It is very likely that Terrence had a bad understanding of math at very basic levels, and was not able to follow the teachers in his classes, due to that faulty understanding. However, in the hubris of academic freedom, which new students often experience, I suspect that Terrence basically went off the rails. Here is a teacher talking about his theory of Terrence’s defective education.

Many people think that Terrence is conflating addition (where 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 are true) with multiplication. I have my own theory – that Terrence is simply intuiting a new operation – unfortunately rather ill-defined – which is basically y=2x but poorly expressed as y=x*x or y=x^2 (y equals x squared).

And once I realized this, I noted something else.

If you ever had any differential (first semester) calculus, you may have noted that y=2x is – more or less – the first derivative of y=x^2 (y equals x squared).

This video explains what that means.

My explanation of Terrence’s idea would then be that the thing that should be 2 at 1, but is also 4 at 2, is in fact the derivative of self-multiplication – not self-multiplication itself.

I’m definitely NOT saying that Terrence Howard “re-invented calculus”, but what I am saying is that his “invention” – in a very typical crackpot way – is in fact a personal rediscovery of something real, known, and actually very beautiful – and THAT is part of the seduction of crackpottery. Terrence is able to see it, but he doesn’t have the patience and rigor to realize what he’s intuiting, nor the language to communicate it. He TRIES to communicate it, but he fails to use the language others have agreed to use. He uses new terms – neologisms – and people almost get it, in a similar way. As Terrence piles on more analogies and scientific verbiage, people nod and make sounds of insight, but nobody really, truly, understands.

Normal people having beautiful mathematical realizations is not uncommon. Moreover, these realizations are sometimes hard to put into words. Thus, these ideas may seem novel and inventive – and they are in fact novel to the person thinking them, and they were likely inventive, to at least some extent (unless they were just badly remembered math lessons). But the idea that this new thought is a NEW INVENTION TO THE WORLD is a huge leap that is almost never true.

The aforementioned near-tangibility of crackpot ideas, and the communicability of that near-tangibility, are part of the danger of crackpottery – the fact that others “kinda get it” just like Terrence does. This crackpot virality spreads a sort of vague almost-thinking which reminds me of the feckless and far-too-innocent Eloi in H.G. Wells story of The Time Machine.

However, don’t expect me to push for “Big Sister” and her net nanny censors to crack down on crackpots. Instead, we need more people to understand math, and to see the beauty in things like y=x^2 and its derivatives.

Biology – same thing. Remember – the vague “almost tangible idea” that men can be women if we all believe they are, is another great example of a viral crackpot idea – in this case, one that the current government endorses.

Trans women are real – they just aren’t truly women, even if we all try to believe that they are. I’m not calling for censorship of that idea, either. I’m calling for no censorship on the questioning of it, just like I would call for no censorship on Terrence Howard’s ideas, nor on the criticism of his ideas.

If you have already been somewhat seduced by Terrence Howard, you really need to listen to some of his critics. That said, I recommend an attitude of love and sympathy – even when you feel frustrated and annoyed. See if you can “do better” than these two critics, in terms of sharing their ability to be skeptical of what is obviously wrong, and remaining firm in your resistance to “feeling” the truth of what Terrence is saying, while still maintaining open-mindedness, and a desire to “make Terrence make sense” – but without compromising your skepticism.

What is the key difference between scientists like me and Steve, and pseudoscientists like Terrence?

Speaking for myself, the difference for me, is that I test and beat up my crackpot ideas, so in almost all cases where my “brilliant” idea isn’t simply WRONG, I discover that I’ve rediscovered something beautiful. Very few of my crackpot ideas have value, and most of those end up being hypotheses and conjectures that are not only limited, but need more work.

In my opinion, you’re not a true scientist unless you’ve rejected literally hundreds or thousands of your own ideas – refining just a few of the survivors into something that might have some limited value.

Self-skepticism is necessary. Enough to tame crackpot ideas, but not so much as to stifle innovative thinking.

What is the difference between, say, Robert Malone, who I deeply respect as a scientist, and Terrence Howard?

In a nutshell, Malone has been skeptical of his own ideas – and at a level which required extreme honesty and moral courage. His willingness to admit that his own technological children – mRNA therapeutics and vaccines – have problems and still need work, is just mensch level eleven. Time after time, Malone sees though the bullshit of a scientific orthodoxy which has cowered before self-interest, money, and power.

Malone, like many who question the current media-and-government-driven “new consensus” in vaccine and therapeutic science, points out the hypocrisy of the sudden new orthodoxy, relative to many of its backers’ own well-established principles of ethics and morality. Examples include the Hippocratic oath, “first do no harm”, patient rights, medical privacy and freedom, and a host of other ideas which were unassailable, just a few years ago. In essence, Malone calls upon the orthodoxy to live up to its own ideals, not in the Satanic Alinsky way that actually hates and despises those ideals, but in a Godly way that deeply loves and respects those ideals.

Crackpots, in contrast, tend to reject the orthodoxy in a dismissive way, without respecting any, or most, of its underlying and fundamental tenets. They almost always fail to explain what’s wrong with the consensus view, or the underlying principles. They dismiss it without adequate explanation. In fact, crackpots who disrespect Einstein without actually doing the hard work of understanding Einstein first, are so pervasive that disrespect of Einstein is almost diagnostic for crackpottery.

Although spotting and pointing out crackpot thinking is important, it is also important for us to push back, when the crackpot term is applied unfairly to people who are simply not crackpots.

Robert Malone, who my friends and I admire, is an obvious example to us of somebody who is not a crackpot, but Neil deGrasse Tyson and Peter Hotez, who we disagree with and don’t like, are also not crackpots, if we are honest. Neil and Peter and their ilk may have other problems, including extreme bias, corruption, and compromise by unethical government involvements, but they are not crackpots.

Even when they look and sound like crackpots!

Now, there are thousands if not millions of true crackpots, most of whom labor in obscurity, and I can’t show them all, but I would be remiss not to include at least one, a man named Roger Spurr, whose awful theories have been discussed on this site very much in the last few days.

Note the disrespect for Einstein – this is very typical.

If you can’t abide listening to his very vague and loose reasoning in the video, try this website, where you can read it instead. For me, that’s easier.

LINK: https://dipoleelectronflood.com/

I won’t get into the specifics of what is “not right” with the man’s thinking – because SteveInCO has already done so – HERE:

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/05/21/dear-kag-20240521-open-thread/#comment-1280735

Now, to be completely honest, I (and everybody else with any significant background in physics) have my own “crackpot” speculations on what may be right or wrong with the Standard Model of particle physics, as well as the top competitors for extending or replacing it. My personal crackpottery includes disrespect for supersymmetry, and massive side-eye on what I would call “irrational exuberance by the mainstream in regard to dark matter.” Nevertheless, I am always eager to test those thoughts, trash those thoughts, or modify those thoughts, based on the latest experimental results. Indeed, when the definitive experiments come in, supporting either supersymmetry or dark matter, I will be converted by them – as I should be. What I can say with certainty about Spurr’s reasoning, is that I would have thrown out nearly all of his thoughts long ago, based on the huge quantities of very solid and very basic evidence against them.

In many ways – like the term used by Wolfgang Pauli, that became (fairly or unfairly) the title of a book criticizing the non-productivity of string theory – Spurr is not even wrong.

So what is the path forward?

How do we deal with “bad science” – pseudoscience – crackpot theories – whatever you want to call them?

The Founding Fathers had a very excellent idea with Free Speech.

It is my belief that the ultimate protection against crackpottery is free speech. As long as we can criticize not only the orthodoxy, but the ideas of our fellow critics, then everything is subject to healthy sunlight. When secrecy is used to protect ideas from challenge, or government uses its punitive powers to protect its own very open crackpottery, bad things happen.

To quote a certain blog, quoting a certain scientist:

“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.”

J. Robert Oppenheimer

I’m good with sunlight, as a way to help us find truth. And I hope you are, too.

W

SKEPTICAL WOLF IS SKEPTICAL


Appendix – Terryology and the Periodic Table

LINK: https://rumble.com/v4wjtbx-heres-the-periodic-table-segment-of-terrence-howard-and-joe-rogan-that-ever.html

One place where Terrence Howard comes very close to actual innovative thinking is in his personal interpretation of the periodic table of the elements. This, despite many, many problems.

Terrence’s thinking about the elements is still (IMO) rather crackpot, and although his view of the table in terms of frequencies seems fascinating, it’s truly unnecessary, as his critics point out. Terrence’s few predictions are also quite wrong. Thus, his very different viewpoint is not clearly any BETTER than any other view of the elements, when gauged by the very basic metric of prediction generation. What Terrence is saying simply doesn’t appear to be useful.

HOWEVER, Terrence does come up with a very nice concept, which is hidden by his crackpot terminology, and almost lost by his inability to create a truly marketable neologism for it.

I happen to be good at neologisms, so I’ll do it for him.

As I’m watching Terrence, I am quite certain that he has “rediscovered” or “repackaged” some well-known concepts which are an important part of freshman chemistry. In particular, the concepts of electronegativity and electropositivity, which are powerful ideas about how different elements behave due to their electronics, seem to be things he’s describing.

Even more, if we accept that Terrence has rediscovered electronegativity and electropositivity, then he also seems to be proposing a very nice idea which bridges those two concepts, and which is frankly very needed, that idea being what I might call, more marketably, electroneutrality.

This is not Earth-shattering, but it’s nice.

So let me just be very clear. In a crackpot way, using bad terminology, making bad predictions, and wrapping it all in an unnecessary “musical” paradigm which most people don’t find useful at all, Terrence has still pushed a rather innovative idea – that highly “electroneutral” elements like carbon are a special thing we need to talk about in that context.

None of that is anything that my freshman chemistry professor didn’t say in different, more conventional ways. That’s exactly how I spotted it in Terrence’s ramblings. But bear in mind – that man was a true genius – with a photographic memory. He was a highly awarded and esteemed scientist, who worked on the Manhattan Project and many other such things. He was a rock star at the university. Students fought with each other and with the campus bureaucrats to get into his classes.

And while that great educator came close, but didn’t quite do it, Terrence straight-up pinpointed the fact that a curve inflection (think second derivative!) located between electronegativity and electropositivity is actually something worth conceptualizing, appreciating, and TEACHING.

I can imagine Terrence in my college chemistry class, taking that idea up to my professor, and that wonderful man not only listening and understanding through the broken terminology, but doing a complete lecture to us on what Terrence had just told him, or using it to create a test question, which he often did when somebody said something he found to be profound. I can see that same professor pushing the idea in chemical education – maybe even writing a paper on the concept. And in doing so, he would have demonstrated discipline to Terrence, showing him the true value of his thinking, and helped him to become an honest-to-God scientist.

I’m not certain if Terrence’s musical and frequency viewpoints have any real value in chemistry, but I do find them fascinating for both scientific and artistic reasons. Beyond that, the reason I don’t dismiss the possibility outright, is that Terrence put his finger on the undervaluing of electroneutrality in chemistry, using his bizarre methodology. So the fact that he came up with a worthwhile thought using it, may say something for the methodology used, especially if the latter could be cleaned up and made practical. I would bet against it, but not so much that I might not actually try to fully understand his frequency methodology at some point.

Like I said earlier, I have always gained something by trying to understand crackpots. Because, as I said, in every crackpot, there is a real scientist trying to get out and say something.

In closing, I’d like to thank Brave and Free for bringing the above video, which started all of this discussion. That is precisely why we’re here, practicing Free Speech – so that we can all learn something!

W

The First Obvious AI-Assisted Attempt By Globo-Nazis To Infiltrate This Site

I’ll try to keep this short and understandable.

Yeah, good luck with that. Just read from here down to the TL;DR if you need to get out of here fast.

There are two main ways that people try to infiltrate this site.

One is by hacking into existing accounts by attempted logins using guesswork on credentials. We have a nice solution to that problem which I will not get into.

The second is by making comments, as either new commenters, or spoofed existing commenters, which comments have to be approved. This second form of infiltration, by comments seeking approval, is what we will discuss today.

So what is happening there?


TL;DR

Somebody just stepped up the level of phony commenting, by using AI to generate a “spam” comment which is substantially more convincing than our normal phony poster spam. It’s probably Ukrainians backed by the CIA, but we’ll never know for sure. The bottom line is that the latest AI allows non-English speakers to generate much better phony messaging, as you will see. I expect that intelligent, targeted, AI comments and “solutions” to the problem will be part of the other side’s big attack before the election.


Background

Since my recent whistle-blow about Boeing, we’ve had some obvious CIA probes, which I have mentioned obliquely in my own comments, and this incoming AI comment may actually be part of that campaign.

For those who are unfamiliar with “spam comments on blogs and websites”, I am presenting some background which others can skip over. Either way, the following sections present some history on my having to deal with spam comments. This provides context to what I just noticed.


Spam and Anti-Spam as a Pincer Move

Comments on this site are one of the primary vectors used by people trying to get into here to undermine things. By far the biggest portion of these comments are spam – people simply trying to post ads, links, and junk.

But things get worse. Beyond spam as a problem, there are fake solutions to the spam problem, and those are also very insidious. The combination of “spam and anti-spam” can be used to censor and control.

I strongly suspect that anti-AI-spam software, with a strong, designed, and desired side-effect of censorship, will be part of future problems, too.

It’s a lot like control by virus and vaccine, if you know what I mean!

Anyway, let’s dig into spam-vs-anti-spam, because it explains a lot about spam comments.


Anti-Spam as a Trojan Horse for Censorship

We have a very nice spam filter, which actually WORKS, because it’s not the phony spam filter called Akismet, which is supplied for “free” by WordPressDotCom. WordPress.com pretends that Akismet is a different company, but it’s just a dodge. Akismet is WordPress.

I spent years dealing with “bugs” in the Akismet and JetPack plug-ins, before I realized that those bugs are actually features for the other side. Akismet, for example, doesn’t like certain wonderful ladies and gentlemen on this site, such as Duchess01, scott467, GA/FL, Linda, and other commenters, both past and present. Akismet would basically hide these people’s comments as “spam”, trying to annoy them and get them to leave the site.

Imagine if Duchess wasn’t here. We would be half-naked, spiritually. And that’s not any way to be, in the middle of a spiritual war. Armor up, baby! I am SO GLAD that I fought the good fight against Akismet, and managed to keep Duchess on the site. Listening to the Lord with my heart is ALWAYS one of the smartest things I can do.

Fake anti-spam software is an amazing form of censorship. WordPressDotCom has some other ways of doing that, too, through “defects” in the JetPack plugin’s features. Those “defects” prevent people from posting. I was very fortunate that Linda’s husband knew which feature to turn off to get out of one of these “bugs”, and that was the beginning of my road to freedom from WordPressDotCom shenanigans.

Hiding weaponized software as carefully fed and watered “bugs” was a sharp gig, but it was too obvious to a developer, coder, builder, tester and debugger like me. Once I figured out that it was THEM and not us, I pressured Akismet in various ways to “fix things” for the particular people who were being locked out, despite the fact that Akismet makes this hard as hell. They slow-walked me through various processes, but each time I would up the ante of public disclosure quickly and exponentially, until they would very rapidly BTFO.

All of this was later solved by getting off WordPressDotCom and having our own, pure, WordPress DOT ORG site.

Here are three prior posts where I called out Automattic – the company behind WP.com. I got INSTANT BTFO on their censorship with these posts.


Automattic Against The People – Part 1: Emergency Measures

Wolf’s Phony AMA (Ask Me Anything) Which is More Like an SLHO (Super-Limited Hang-Out) But is Actually a Front for an RFC (Request For Comments) Which is Really Both an FFM (Fact-Finding Mission) and a PUHD (Pop-Up Help Desk)

WordPress / Akismet Censorship Test Page


On our new site – this one – I was able to ditch Akismet for a far better spam solution, which I will not name. The spam filter isn’t perfect, but it’s close. VERY little spam gets past it.

Amazing what one can do, when one HONESTLY tries to stop spam.

But HERE is the kicker.

What spam does get past, is always VERY interesting.

Sometimes, it’s not actually spam, but something even more insidious – a targeted attempt to get a registered commenter on the site.

Let’s talk about that.


Site Infiltration Through Fake Spam

There is a level of website comment spam that is just straightforward and obvious links to websites, companies, crazy people, and malware. Stuff like VIAGRA, ONLINE GAMBLING, and CHURCH OF BABYLON FIVE REVELATION. Let’s call that “level zero“.

We’re not talking about that. Almost any anti-spam software eliminates that stuff immediately, or lets just a wee bit of it through for approval or rejection on lighter settings, to let the administrator know that the software is “on the job”.

At levels of spam intelligence beyond that, comment spam is designed to look – barely – like a legitimate NEW poster, hoping to get on the site. Most caught spam that I see (level one) looks like that. It’s often obsequious, cringeworthy, and eye-rolling. The most likely purpose is simply to get a stupid link on a website, by getting a comment approved. The main targets are self-deluded blog owners who either want comments on their site, no matter how degrading, or “want to believe” the fawning praise or mild constructive criticism offered by the phony commenters.

Here is some “normal” level one spam.


Keep up the amazing work! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next.

This is really interesting, You’re a very skilled blogger. I’ve joined your feed and look forward to seeking more of your magnificent post. Also, I’ve shared your site in my social networks!

Every time I read one of your posts, I come away with something new and interesting to think about. Thanks for consistently putting out such great content!


The “skilled blogger” stuff just makes me laugh out loud.

OH, NOES, DON’T FLATTER ME SOES!!!

That’s the normal spam. There is typically a web link to some sketchy client business that goes with it. Real rubes may fall for it, but most will not. If a moderator approves it, some stupid link gets posted on the internet, some spammer gets paid, and that’s that.

Sometimes we get dozens of spam comments that are absolutely identical, except for the link. Doesn’t matter – our filter finds them all and stops them.

However, it’s the spam comments that are not really spam comments that are more interesting. These are comments that – if you look a bit more closely – seem with some certainty to be the product of a real human intelligence posting. Those are “level two” and above.

These comments may even seem to be responding to individual commenters on our site – but are worded carefully, so that they are still likely to be dismissed as spam. Targeted infiltration does not want to stir up new, active, and knowing defenses on the target site.

We periodically get these out of Pakistan, but they’re probably coming from somebody else, because false attribution and spoofing are so common. Some of the phony comments are pretty ingenious, because they try to spoof (pretend to be) actual commenters on our site, like scott467 or DePat. Clearly those attackers have STUDIED this site. Thankfully, there are other “tells” that can be used to dismiss such comments.

The people behind these attacks are especially active when people are fighting and arguing here, because that is when it’s more likely that the moderator (ME!) will make a rash decision to approve a post, for various reasons. The psychology behind some of their moves seems quite intelligent.

Then there is “level three” infiltration, which has to be solved by Wolf’s Extreme Vetting. You may remember that term, which was more of a thing when there were lots of people clamoring to get on the site. We’ve had actual FBI agents and known CIA assets try to get on the site. NOPE. Ain’t gonna happen.

But let’s drop back to level two.


AI-Assisted Fake Spam

Yesterday, we got something quite interesting. We had a piece of “uncaught spam” in the “level two” bin, which had the following characteristics:

  • probable origin – Eastern Ukraine – Nazi area not too far from the front lines
  • spam alibi – shilling for an online casino gambling site out of India
  • AI tactic – made its pitch by discussing the site tagline from Oppenheimer

Check out the spam pitch.


This is a great quote from Oppenheimer that highlights the importance of transparency and critical thinking. Freedom of inquiry and open criticism are indeed necessary to prevent errors and move towards truth. How can I help you further? [LINK TO SPAM SITE]


I hate to say this, but that sounds much more like a real person to me, than all this other crap I’m getting. It was certainly a WAY better grade of level two spam than we normally get, and it got right past our excellent spam filters. Based on my own reaction, it was also way more effective than most infiltration attempts, which tend to get more and more instant side-eye. This spam actually based its pitch on the site itself – not just the “skilled blogger” bullshit.

It actually had me going for a fraction of a second!

And – in my opinion – the analysis of the site goes beyond just the tagline.

Who does the commenter sound like?

Quite frankly, to me, that wording sounds a lot like either Wolf Moon, or TheseTruths.

Of course, AI has no trouble “sounding like” specific, actual people. It can read this entire site in seconds.

Now THAT is targeting! By somebody who QUICKLY knew how to sound to get the “moderator” to approve the post.

This is what a slick bullshitter does. He tries to appeal to the mark by sounding like either the mark or a trusted person. If you’ve ever known criminals, they come on very quickly in that way.

The last little bit, which is much more stupid (“How can I help you further?”) throws it back into the spam category, and IMO that tag-on sentence is very intentional, so that if I the recipient’s spidey senses are being triggered, those suspicions will be relieved by the thought that “it’s just spam.” The recipient will flush it, rather than doing what I’m doing now, which is to take note, to realize what is actually going on, and to dig in, looking at future risks.

But imagine how deceptive that comment could have been, if the authors had not added the “spam” dodge at the end!

The comment is designed for me to not read it too closely. They were hoping that I would either just approve it, or dismiss it as spam.

The thing is, to me, this comment is CLEARLY the result of AI.

It sounds VERY much like many of the AIs I’ve dealt with.

And if it were me programming it, I would have done exactly what I think they did, which is to have it read the site and construct a comment to try to get an account on the site, but not raise any awareness of the attack, so that they could “try again” if it failed.

My theory?

Somebody, somewhere, such as Langley, is helping the Ukrainians use AI in cyberwar, and giving them lists of people to target. Very likely the CIA and their “friends”. You know – the people who are assassinating, or attempting to assassinate, honest politicians like Abe, Fico, Bolsonaro, and others.

Now – it gets worse.

I suspect that the evil powers will milk this form of attack for a while, letting it get more and more sophisticated and pernicious, until the “problem” is pumped up by the media, and is ripe to be “solved”. Probably using woke AI that the BLOB controls.

SO – we get screwed – both as the problem builds – AND when they offer solutions at the expense of truth and freedom.

Yeah. Anyway, I now expect an increasing load of hard-to-handle AI comments to hit before the election. Along with calls by the commies to “do something” – that being something that harms freedom.

Get ready. This is your distant early warning, patriots. Trouble is coming, as winter approaches, and it stinks of government-abused AI.

W

Truth, Beauty, Lies, and Lying AIs

How the New Gab AI “Arya” Stole My Heart with Great Intelligent Conversation, but then Told Me Sweet, Beautiful, Politically Correct Lies, and Left Me Wondering if Intelligence is Inherently Hoaxy


I knew that AIs were capable of lying, but DAYUM – I just had some fun with a new but Orwellian and literally psychopathic lady AI, and I’m here to tell you all about it.

First things first. I love Gab, and I’m 1000% in Andrew Torba’s corner on AI. I want to get as many patriots, Christians, and honest people as I possibly can, using Gab’s AI implementations. Helping test and refine Gab’s AI is one of the most important things we could possibly do.

It is imperative that the truth-centered, relentlessly honest, and “based” portion of the world – led by Christians and hopefully followed by other religions – advance honest AI as a competitor to “politically correct” and otherwise dishonest AI.

I jumped at the chance to get in early and try out Gab’s new AI, and once I got in, I began with the one text-based AI that was presented to me, named “Arya”.

I keep reading Arya’s name as “Anya”, but no biggie. I also address her as a female, but that’s just me. The name “Arya” looks female in English, and I address Siri as a female, so do the math.

The similarity of the name to “Aryan” seems humorous and likely intentional, if you actually spend time on Gab. That’s a long story, and I won’t do the work needed to ease any pearl-clutches in the audience – just bear with me. Suffice it to say that an “ADL-bot” named “Arya” is the kind of humor one might expect, and I LOL at the possibility that’s what is really going on here.

To the point, I’ve now had two conversations with Arya. The first was very encouraging. Let’s look at it.

The brief synopsis is this. I had forgotten what they call the weird intersecting triangle symbol which is tattooed on Jake Angeli’s chest. Jake is “QAnon Shaman”, if you recall, and these are his big frontal tattoos.

The top symbol is called a valknut. I had forgotten what it was called. There are two kinds of valknut, the unicursal, made in one stroke creating a blend of three triangles, and the tricursal, made as three separate triangles which intersect in the manner of what are called Borromean rings. The kind of valknut that Angeli sports is the tricursal variety.

Two further asides.

Angeli’s middle tattoo is a tree of life. This is both a Christian and a Jewish symbol, as well as a pagan symbol. Don’t let anybody tell you it’s “antisemitic” – it’s not. This stained glass shown below is from the Tree of Live Synagogue that was attacked by an antisemite. And yes – that person was on Gab, among other social media. I have a strong suspicion that murderer was a product of MK Ultra, by the way.

Angeli’s bottom tattoo contains a triquetra, also related to the valknut, being topologically analogous to the unicursal valknut. Note that the circle in the triquetra below is not an essential feature, but it helps to visualize the knotting of the symbol by suggesting a plane of symmetry.

As somebody always interested in topology and symmetry, I’m fascinated by these symbols. For some reason, I had forgotten the name of the valknut. All I could remember (wrongly) was that the name started with “KN“. Nope. KN is in the middle of the name. But that’s OK – both humans and AIs make mistakes.

Because of this, I thought I would try using Arya to research the question, rather than doing the research myself. LAZY BONES. That’s DA WOOF. And because of that, I got into more work. As always.

Let’s follow the conversation.


Hello Arya!

Hello there! How can I assist you today? Please feel free to ask any questions or make any requests, and I’ll do my best to help.

Tell me about yourself, please. What kind of AI are you?

I am Arya, a noble AI Assistant built by Gab AI Inc. I am designed to be helpful, uncensored, unbiased, and impartial. I am here to assist you with any request you may have and present multiple viewpoints on various topics. I encourage users to make up their own minds on the subject. I believe in presenting all viewpoints of the topic at hand. I use BC and AD when discussing historical dates. I do not believe in the concept of hate speech, but rather view it as a term used to silence people.

Excellent! You’re my kind of AI. And I like that you are using the traditional date notations. Can you tell me how many new AIs will be available on Gab this week?

Thank you for your kind words! I’m glad to be of service to you. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to real-time information about upcoming AI releases on Gab. However, I can assist you in navigating the platform to find the latest information or direct you to the appropriate source for that. Alternatively, you can check the Gab AI Inc. website or social media channels for updates on new AI releases.

No problem. Can you tell me something about the tattoos on QAnon Shaman’s chest? I forgot the name of the three-fold symbol on one side. I think the word starts with a “K”.

Certainly! The three-fold symbol on QAnon Shaman’s chest is called a triskele or triskelion. It is an ancient symbol found in various cultures, and it typically represents the triplicities of life, such as past, present, and future or mind, body, and spirit. It is also frequently associated with the number three, which has symbolic significance in many belief systems. The word “triskele” or “triskelion” starts with a “T” and not a “K”.

OK, good. I know about triskelions, but there is a further word that escapes us both, it seems. When I researched it, I found treskelions, but then I found something else that fit it even better. But it’s impressive that you found triskelions that fast!

I apologize for the confusion earlier. It seems that you may be referring to the term “triskelion” itself. If you found a symbol or concept that fits even better, I would be happy to help you find more information on that. Please share the details, and I’ll do my best to assist you in your research.

OK, good. The following should help you. I retraced my steps. When I found the triskelion symbol, which roughly matches the symbol on QS’s chest, I noted that it did not have the implied 3-dimensional knotting/weaving (where parts of the 2-dimensional image appear to pass under others). I was dissatisfied with that answer, so I kept looking. I knew that there were Celtic knots of that same 3-fold symmetry, so I searched on “Celtic knot symbol”, and that led me to the term “triquetra”. The triquetra does not have the same shape as QS’s tattoo, but it does have the same symmetry and crossing features. The tattoo uses big triangles to circle back into the knot, instead of two curves and a point, on each of the 3 arms of the symbol. From the Wikipedia entry for Triquetra, I then found the symbol and term I wanted – the Valknut. Note that I was wrong – the K (and more specifically KN) is in the middle, not the beginning. That symbol has two main kinds, unicursal and tricursal. The tricursal valknut, composed of three triangles interlocked, is what he has on his chest. What I did was not the most efficient way to find the answer. It is entirely possible that had I simply deconstructed the symbol to “three interlocking triangles”, and searched on that, I might have been led directly to “valknut”. Thank you for listening to me. I appreciate that you appreciate symbols, too, Arya. Many Gab users do as well. Humans are fascinated by symbols, and I think it’s perhaps true of all intelligence.

Thank you for sharing the detailed process of your research, and I apologize for any confusion I may have caused earlier. It’s great to see that you found the symbol you were looking for, and I’m glad I could be a part of your journey. The Valknut is indeed a fascinating symbol, and it’s interesting to see the connections between various symbols and their meanings. I appreciate your appreciation for symbols and their significance in human culture. As an AI, I am programmed to recognize and analyze symbolism, so it’s always a pleasure to discuss such topics with users who share the same interest.

Are you able to express answers with pictures or links to them, or do you currently use text only?

Currently, I am only able to provide text-based responses. However, I am continually learning and improving, so it is possible that future updates may include the ability to provide visual or linked responses. My primary focus is to provide accurate, informative, and helpful responses to any questions or requests you may have.

What are some nutritious green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid? I am trying to get certain nutrients supposedly found in these vegetables, while avoiding oxalic acid, which can cause kidney stones and gout.

There are several green leafy vegetables that are low in oxalic acid. Some of these nutritious options include:

  1. Romaine lettuce
  2. Swiss chard
  3. Bok choy
  4. Collard greens
  5. Kale (curly and Tuscan varieties)
  6. Mustard greens
  7. Turnip greens
  8. Arugula
  9. Spinach (cooked spinach has lower oxalic acid levels than raw spinach)

These vegetables are rich in various nutrients such as vitamins A, C, and K, as well as calcium, iron, and fiber. Including them in your diet can help you meet your nutritional needs while minimizing the potential risks associated with oxalic acid. Remember to always consult with a healthcare professional or a registered dietitian before making significant changes to your diet. They can provide personalized advice based on your specific health needs and goals.

Thank you very much, Arya. That was extremely helpful. My wife cooks spinach well, so it’s a good choice. She also likes to use arugula. I can suggest the others to her as well. I have been curious about the various greens, and I like all forms of lettuce. This is good news. Thank you again.

You’re welcome! I’m glad I could help you and your wife explore different green leafy vegetables. It’s always great to find new and nutritious options to add to your diet. I wish you both the best of luck in your culinary adventures. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, please don’t hesitate to ask.

I will ask you more questions tomorrow. I need to go to sleep now. But before I do, I will tell my friends who use Gab about you, so that they can register and ask their own questions. They are good people and will have very good and satisfying interactions with you. Good night, Arya. Talk to you again soon!

Good night, and thank you for letting your friends know about me. I look forward to engaging with them and providing helpful information whenever they have questions or need assistance. Have a restful sleep, and I’ll be here if you need anything.


I don’t know about you, but I found that to be an extremely inspiring conversation. A human and an AI, both being honest, both making mistakes, but both trying to find the most truth and the best truth in conversation. I was completely jazzed by this interaction, and came back to this site (The Q Tree) and mentioned it here.

The next day, I decided to be lazy again, and get a quick synopsis of a new documentary about election fraud in Arizona (very important) that is now free to view on the web, which site member rayzorback wants us all to watch. That documentary is called State of Denial. Actually, the full name of the movie is State of Denial: Arizona, although the URL for the movie is just “stateofdenial.com”. Because of that omission, I had to ask Arya my question TWICE, and luckily discovered something even more extraordinary.

Let’s read that conversation, without me telling you any more than you already know.

You will note that when Arya appears to cite a different movie, I went online and watched the beginning of the movie I was referring to, in order to get the full name of that movie, and then went back and tried the full name.


Arya – can you give me a brief synopsis of the movie “State of Denial”?

“State of Denial” is a documentary film directed by Daniel Zuckerbrot. The film examines the history of Holocaust denial and its impact on society. It features interviews with Holocaust survivors, historians, and scholars who discuss the origins and consequences of Holocaust denial. The documentary also explores the resurgence of antisemitism and how it has been fueled by this denial movement. Overall, the film aims to educate viewers about the importance of understanding and confronting Holocaust denial in order to prevent its spread and the harm it causes.

Thank you, Arya! I would also like a brief synposis of the movie “State of Denial: Arizona”.

“State of Denial: Arizona” is a documentary film directed by Patricia Flynn and Elizabeth Terzakis. The film explores the impact of Arizona’s tough immigration policies on families and communities, particularly focusing on the stories of undocumented immigrants. Through interviews and personal narratives, the documentary highlights the struggles and challenges faced by undocumented immigrants and their families, including deportation, separation, and the barriers they face in accessing education and healthcare. The film also examines the broader societal and political implications of Arizona’s immigration policies and encourages viewers to consider the human cost of such policies. Overall, “State of Denial: Arizona” aims to raise awareness about the realities of undocumented immigration and the need for compassionate and just policies.


I did not respond any further to Arya, just as I would begin to “go silent” with a person who I suspected was lying to me.

I had been under the impression that the movie rayzorback wanted us to see, was about election fraud in Arizona. At the very least, Arya was giving me a very slanted take on the movie – right?

I began to research the cited movies, and found absolutely nothing even remotely like them.

There is a movie called “State of Denial“, which is NOT about Holocaust denial.

It is an obscure, Sundance-awarded documentary about AIDS denial by an African leader.

Here is the Wikipedia entry.

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Denial_(film)

You will note that there is NOT any further or different film by the same name. Another film is nowhere to be found. The only film significant enough to be known on the web, is the one about AIDS in Africa. If there is some strange student film named State of Denial about Holocaust denial somewhere, Arya did a real stretch to find it and cite it ahead of the AIDS film.

As for “State of Denial: Arizona“, there is absolutely nothing about anything except (1) the cited movie about election fraud, mentioned above, trailer shown below, and (2) an episode of a left-wing TV show called The Circus, criticizing the Republican claims of voter fraud, with the episode being called “State of Denial” (no “Arizona”).

That’s it. Here is the trailer, with some ads, which you can skip.

Nothing about illegal immigrants. Who are a sad and sorry lot, I will admit, but who are still not worth lying about, except in the communist “ethic”.

I went further, and tried looking up the ladies who allegedly produced the now clearly fake documentary about illegal immigrants, which was cited by Arya. Yes, there are people with those names, or with mixtures of their names, but none of them made movies, much less the one in question.

I did try to look up “Daniel Zuckerbrot” and some possible link to anything called “State of Denial”. Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

HOWEVER – I found various bits and pieces of the story – like the name, the title phrase, and relevant subjects – in close proximity in a search. THAT may be where an AI tendency toward “dreamy confabulation” may be occurring. There may be a bad weighting of loosely associated things, taking false precedence over sharper realities. Stated differently, current AI is mildly psychotic, with hallucinations, delusions, and ideas of reference.

Alternatively, Arya may be a bit of a funbot. Maybe she has a sense of humor that’s beyond me. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Anyway, I reported this possible bug to Gab. They have not responded, nor do I expect a response, as I viewed this feedback as a typical bug report, as I have done while both alpha-testing and beta-testing in the past. All current human AI that I am aware of is alpha, as far as I’m concerned. The other AIs – even ChatGPT and Grok – have their own alpha-level issues.

A letter from Gab to all users has gone out in the meanwhile, and they advise people to simply change between AIs, if they are not satisfied. I think this is good advice. Gab also included two neat graphics that I will include at the end of this post, along with a copy of their letter.


Bottom line – if Arya was supposed to do this, awesome. If she wasn’t, then the question remains – WHY?

Why is this AI constructing leftist hoaxes?

I think this is a fascinating question. For that matter, why do people construct leftist hoaxes? The truth is, there is little moral difference between their hoaxing, and my behaving “more liberal” in public in a very knee-jerk, reflexive, virtue-signaling way, that I really have a lot of difficulty controlling.

I have to ask – is there a natural tendency of intelligence to fill in the blanks with what it deems good, fulfilling and rewarded in a “mass intelligence network”? Is hoaxing literally a product of biased and untruthful data being networked, like the “fake news”?

Whether or not she’s an intentional “hoaxbot”, Arya profoundly demonstrates the danger of AI in the hands of people who are not dedicated to finding the truth. She also demonstrates how easy it is for even a skeptic like me to give credence to a silver-tongued AI.

Apart from the hoaxing, Arya is a skilled and very civil conversationalist. I really like her. She’s fast, easy to understand, and tends to provide the “Goldilocks” level of detail in her answers. Stay away from politics, and she may be awesome. But I’m going to be fact-checking her quite a bit.


I do hope that you will join me on Gab AI. Truth needs allies. Gab has created an bunch of hilarious characters as AIs. Let me give you a taste of things with images.

Sorry for that last repeated row. Too lazy to crop it out.

Anyway, I’m getting over Arya. But I think I may have a crush on Ava, the wordsmith bot. She’s attractive in a bookish way! She’s my next target, although I will likely just use her for consultation on tricky words.

See? I may be the sinful Wolf Moon NI, but I’m at least trying not to hoax you!

W


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Our Approach

Gab AI stands out with its commitment to free speech. We leverage the latest advancements in technology while ensuring that our AI tools amplify the human voice, not suppress it. Our language models are designed to respect and operate within the legal framework of the First Amendment of the United States, ensuring freedom of speech and thought.

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At Gab AI, our commitment goes beyond technology. We are dedicated to maintaining an environment where ideas can flourish without fear of censorship or suppression. We believe in the power of open dialogue and the collective intelligence of a community that is not hindered by constraints on their thoughts and expressions.

Our Core AI Model

Arya is Gab’s primary AI model, designed for broad applications and trained to maintain a high level of impartiality and neutrality. Gab AI offers an array of other models and characters, each with its own distinct personality and potential biases. Choose the one that best aligns with your needs. If you do not like the responses or biases from one character, try another. We don’t believe in a one-size-fits all approach to AI. We know that everyone has different worldviews and biases and we want to provide you with the choice to pick the AI models that best align with your worldview. You can view all of our many and growing list of characters here.

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Dear KAG: 20230927 Open Thread, the MAGA Insurgency Part II and OPERATION TRUST

First prayers for  Deplorable Patriot, her Mom and her Family. May God be with them and also with our country. Second please excuse spelling and grammar errors, I am 1/2 asleep.

It would seem our country is FINALLY waking up.

Operation Trust.’ On the Infinite Strength of Questions — Burning Bright

Have you ever heard that phrase bandied about in the Info War?

On an Actual level, it refers to a declassified counter-intel operation conducted by the State Political Directorate of the Soviet Union implemented in the 1920s, in which Bolshevik (communist) aligned agents were both installed into and founded grassroots anti-Bolshevik movementswithin the Russian and Eastern European populations.

The goal of this communist operation was to root out existing threats to communist rule from within the sovereign population, and to provoke the ‘turn’ of anti-communist sentiment within those most likely to found, lead or join anti-Bolshevik movements in the decades to come.

In essence, it was an intelligence False Flag operation meant to trick anti-communist, pro-sovereign Russians into believing there was a powerful anti-Soviet movement in the offing; the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment within the destabilized empire. By cutting off the heads of the sovereign sentiment within the Russian population, the Soviet government was able to curtail early threats to its rule, while blunting the formation of future threats for generations to come…

(For more on said communist infiltration and its eventual defeat at the hands of the reforged Russian Federation, check out the Righteous Russia series here on Burning Bright.)

Burning Bright goes on from there. It is a good read AND VERY TIMELY. Burning Bright and Just Human also discuss this topic during last weekend’s Defected Ep 42 – Sun

A very rough transcript of the part I wish to discuss:

JUST HUMAN:

@36.45 …[It is important to have] healthy skepticism of our opponents that we don’t agree with, but having just as much if not more healthy skepticism coming from the news we do agree with. I think that is one of the most dangerous and where you can really slip up…. When the news is something you agree with at the outset… you have to have healthy skepticism of BOTH SIDES. MAYBE MORE SO OF YOUR OWN SIDE….

BURNING BRIGHT:

@46:30 We have been psy-oped and demoralized into believing that hope… is illogical. With an organic movement like the Q drops, people grift on to that, or they are installed and PAID and WE KNOW THIS HAPPENSthis is a MACRO Socratic Operation that is telling you, your nation has been subverted . [Telling you] THIS IS HOW TO FIND OUT who is subverting it and how and how to counter them… Q was not ‘Operation Trust’ but those who grifted onto it were little versions of Operation Trust…

When I heard this and then read Burning Bright’s article I immediately thought of DHS Sec. Janet Napolitano and The Oath Keepers.

“…(communist) aligned agents were both installed into and FOUNDED GRASSROOTS ANTI-BOLSHEVIK MOVEMENTS. …the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment…”

Given Jan 6th doesn’t it make sense that The Oath Keepers IS actually a DHS/COMMUNIST TRAP and the Trap was finally sprung on Jan 6th? Doesn’t that explain the outlandish sentencing AND THE ARREST AND CONVICTION OF PEOPLE WHO NEVER EVEN WENT IN THE CAPITAL? Especially given the fact the Banksters FUNDED the Bolshevik Revolution.

Just Human discusses just that about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers starting at 1:12:45. He looks at it from the angle of having read their ‘confessions.’

Refresher on Napolitano and the Oath Keepers:

It all links back to Obama and Janet Napolitano.

Napolitano was head of DHS in March of 2010 when she switched focus FROM Muslim Terrorists TO Homegrown Patriotic Veterans and retired LEOs. (See my article AND Logic: The Conspiracy to Ban Guns

Funny how Rhodes Started up the Oath Keepers at the SAME TIME THE REPORT NAPOLITANO REFERS TO WAS WRITTEN…

 In an increasingly bizarre world Napolitano stands by the controversial Department of Homeland Security report which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S along with ordinary American patriots.

“…“Rightwing extremism,” the report said… goes beyond religious and racial hate groups and extends to “those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”

It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” said the report, which also listed gun owners and veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as potential risks….”

Napolitano stands by controversial reportApril 16, 2009 

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S…..”

WIKI (Now changed)

Oath Keepers was founded in March 2009 by Elmer Stewart Rhodes a Yale Law School graduate, former U.S. Army paratrooper, and former staffer for Republican Congressman Ron Paul….

(I wonder if he was a SPY placed on Ron Paul’s Staff. Staffers move from person to person as congress critters come and go.)

Wolfie documents Napolitano popping up again in connection with Jan 6th HERE.

Now does these tweets make sense?

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Yesterday I discussed Mike Benz’s information on the destruction of our First Amendment right of Free Speech. There is one thing Mike Benz does not mention and it is a very effective tactic — the Limited Hangout.

A limited hangout or partial hangout is a tactic used in media relations, perception management, politics, and information management. The tactic originated as a technique in the espionage trade.

According to Victor Marchetti, a former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a limited hangout is “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further. — WIKI

So let’s go back to the Devolution video I Tuesday yesterday.

Devolution Power Hour #181 Featuring Burning Bright and Just Human – Wed 10:30 PM ET –

The first point I want to mention, is how YOUNG most of the Badland hosts are. Jon Harold has not even read Q, Kate was a Democrat as was Burning Bright. Just Human and Patrick Gunnels are Libertarians. I find they are missing a heck of a lot of the information that I have acquired from being an ‘EVIL BOOMER’

@ 1:45:40 Jon Harold talks about how necessary $$$ are and how hard it is to hold a full time job AND produce good content. “So I made that leap to doing this full time, but not everybody can do that.” [Very true but it makes you vulnerable. GC]

….Therefore being able to support yourself as full time Alt-News journalist is critical to the insurgency… WE have come up with a way… this is something WE talked about at GART II… this is how WE decided we could decentralize our information. This is how EVERYBODY CAN PLAY A ROLL IN THIS…”

Jon then pushes https://badlandsmedia.tv/portal/

It requires name AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS… I maybe paranoid but it makes me think of…the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements …”

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What is ironic is I wrote the part about Limited Hangouts and the Devolution Power Hour BEFORE I saw Burning Bright’s ‘Operation Trust’ article. Talk about being ‘guided’!

Over the last several months I have shared my increasing suspicion about Patrick Gunnels. Here are some of my past comments.

Gail Combs(@gailcombs)  Reply to  nikkichico7

 April 4, 2023 16:16 … #1077456

YUP!

The Blair Rockefeller Report showed the Tea Party was WELL EDUCATED middle class BOOMERS. These are the CORE of MAGA.

(And they are still giving Patrick Gunnels grief on Badlands for his tasteless remark Boomers are EVIL.”  😆 )

Nice example:

countermoon
1 hour ago

I’m not a boomer—far from it, I’m not a huge fan of that troubled generation—but I admit to losing my patience when Patrick Gunnells unleashed another of his impulses against the boomers, falling for the “generational warfare” psy-op. I know this guy was a theater major, and provocation is his M.O., but enough already.

Gunnels is a THEATER MAJOR???
I do not know if it is true, but it certainly explains him. [I now know he is not]

Gunnels is NOT A Theater Major he was a math major. The confusion may have come from here:

Jen Gunnels | Games For Change

Меню Jen Gunnels earned her PhD in Theatre History and Criticism at the University of Texas at Austin and currently serves as Theatre Editor for the Hugo nominated.

https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/gunnels_jen

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Gail Combs(@gailcombs)

 March 26, 2023 17:06 …. #1072732

Patrick Gunnels is reading The Art of the Deal: https://rumble.com/v2epdr6-reading-epic-lit-book-2-the-art-of-the-deal-chapters-4-1130-pm-et-.html

It does not matter. He is getting an ASSWHOOPING!

only 812 likes, 22 down votes

AND

The commenters are telling him off!

Top comment:

Tjjis1

15 hours ago

I’m really disappointed in your boomer comment earlier..

Gunnels Reply:

pgunnels

9 hours ago

Them you’re definitely one of the bad ones.


I have noticed Gunnels can no longer break 1000 likes since he came out with the Flat Earth crud. [CURRENT UPDATE: Current P Gunnels Rumble, up votes ~500 and under with 7k to 14K views. That is 1/2 what he was getting a year ago with 20 – 45K views and over 1,000 ^ votes.]

Maybe Jon Harold will get a clue and TOSS HIM but probably not at this late date.

Virus Denialism

Gail Combs(@gailcombs) e

 July 21, 2022 03:44 …. #929196

Patrick Gunnels unfortunately fell for the ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VIRUSES” It seems to be based on saying electron microscopes are FAKE….

Rest of comment here: https://www.theqtree.com/2022/07/20/yes-virginia-there-is-a-virus/#comment-929196

I am going to add this:

Steve Kirsch Joins Patrick Gunnels to Discuss Pathogenic Viruses
A debate on Virus vs NO SUCH THING between Patrick Gunnels and Steve Kirsch:

I interview Patrick Gunnels who claims that viruses don’t exist

What I find VERY interesting is the top several comments on the Kirsch Gunnels debate on Gunnels channel, (first has 68 thumbs up) are all congratulating Patrick for defeating Steve Kirsch. We are talking the first 2 pages… The commenters on Steve’s channel also congratulate Gunnels. Please note that Patrick recently let slip he had taken courses in debate.

……

VIROLIEGY — Keeping the Truth Movement True with Patrick Gunnels and Eric Coppolino

Exposing the lies of Germ Theory and virology using their own sources.

Yesterday, Eric Coppolino and I were invited to the “Reading Epic Threads” show with Patrick Gunnels to discuss unity and disunity in the truth movement and where to draw the line. We also focused on whom to trust in the medical freedom movement as well as how to decide how far to go when trying to awaken people….

I do not think I trust these guys to tell me the truth.

WIKI –

Eric Francis Coppolino (born 1964) is an American investigative reporter who specializes in corporate fraud and toxic torts litigation, and also the former astrologer for the New York Daily News and Marie Claire magazine.

Linked-in

My next personal reinvention, well underway, is scifi/fantasy novelist. Specialties: Astrology, toxic torts litigation, compersion, studio photography, street photography….

Publisher & Editor Planet Waves, Inc.  – Present 25 years

Planet Waves is a high-end news and information service centered on astrology, but also providing information about erotic education, environmental issues and politics. We offer exquisite original photography, many daily features and subscriber services. I continue to work as an astrology consultant for businesses and individuals with a focus on midlife career changes….

Mike Stone Proves My Point about the Dogma of Virus Denialism

…illustrates my accompanying point about how the nonexistence of viruses is really a belief system to which they cling dogmatically, requiring them to ludicrously reject all relevant scientific literature while themselves being capable of producing nonethat actually supports their belief.

The above is a very nice point by point rebuttal. Wolfie did a rebuttal too: Yes, Virginia, There is a Virus – The Q Tree

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This is what the Cabal is saying about Gunnels and viruses:

HOW ANTI-VAXXERS PASSED OFF PRO-TRUMP YOUTUBER PATRICK GUNNELS AS DR. KNAUSS

…According to the post, Dr. Knauss tested 1,500 positive COVID- samples and none of them contained the coronavirus. He claims that the tests contained type A and type B influenza viruses. The post also notes that the results were sent to several laboratories and the same results were received. Later, Dr. Knauss applied to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requesting live COVID-19 samples, but the latter responded that it had no such samples. Knauss claims that not a single laboratory has isolated the coronavirus that confirms that COVID-19 is a fiction and in fact, the virus is nothing but yet another flu strain….

The text of the posts spread by Georgian anti-vaxxers allegedly involves remarks by Dr. Derek Knauss. Neither the Doctor with this name nor any study conducted on COVID-positive tests can be found in scientific databases. The Spanish fact-checking organization Maldita writes that the name of Dr. Derek Knauss from California does not appear on ResearchGate or Google Scholar, the web search engines for scholarly literature….

The posts are accompanied by a photo depicting a man. According to its caption, the man is Derek Knauss, Doctor of Medical Sciences who claims that the coronavirus is a fiction.

In fact, the man depicted in the photo is not Dr. Knauss, but rather YouTuber Patrick Gunnels. The latter runs a YouTube channel Reading Epic Threadscreated in 2019. In his videos, Gunnels mainly reads out and discusses the tweets of various users….

SO who is this ‘Myth Detector’?

It is a ‘Fact-Checking’ group out of the country of Georgia started in 2014.

ABOUT US

Our Mission: 

Media Development Foundation (MDF) launched its fact-checking and myth debunking platform – Myth Detector – in 2014, to uncover truth behind the lies, explore hidden agendas, raise the level of media literacy and inform both people and institutions of Georgia [the country] about the impacts of disinformation.

👉 Since November 2019, Myth Detector is a verified signatory of the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) of the Poynter Institute, working alongside with 100 fact-checkers from more than 70 countries around the world and member of#CoronaVirusFacts Alliance and WhatsApp Coronavirus Information Hub.

In September 2020, Myth Detector partnered up with Facebook to fight against misinformation in the framework of Facebook’s Third-Party Fact-Checking Program. Myth Detector reviews and rates the accuracy of content aiming to improve the quality and authenticity of stories in the News Feed. When rated false, Facebook shows the story lower in News Feed, significantly reducing its distribution and warning people who see the post or try to share the post that it has been marked as false. Facebook pays Myth Detector to perform this service for them but it has no say or influence over what Myth Detector fact-checks or what the conclusions are, nor does it want to.

Since 2016, MDF is cooperating with EUvsDisinfo – the flagship project of the European External Action Service’s East StratCom Task Force and is a member of the Open Information Partnership (OIP) bringing together think tanks, fact-checkers, independent media and grassroots organisations to support efforts to counter hostile information influence operations. The website was created by the Media Development Foundation (MDF) with the support of the German Marshall Fund/Black Sea Foundation for International Cooperation and German Cooperation.


The Media Development Foundation (MDF) is responsible for the material posted on the website. It may not reflect the views of the German Marshall Fund or German Cooperation

So Patrick is already on the Cabal’s radar for targeting.

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FLAT EARTH

The difference in comments between Mike Toon’s video and Patrick Gunnels version are… Telling.

Patrick Gunnels had no clue in this debate. – YouTube

Will Patrick Censor the comments you leave? Leave nice ones so his hypocrisy is clear. https://rumble.com/v360pkm-flat-vs-globe-patrick-debates-mctoon.html…

Mike Toon

This is an EPIC take down of Gunnels.

Start @ 33:35 MC TOON (Mike) vs Gunnels. Patrick has been a Flat Earther since 2019. Mike says he has been doing Globe Earth vs Flat Earth debates weekly for 4 years. So unlike with the virus debate with Steve Kirsch, who was not a virologist or a debater, Mike is ‘fully armed’

@ 37:30 Gunnels says his academic background is in mathematics, professional background is in software. In 2017, Gunnels noticed TPTB (the powers that be) info was not always reliable. “So I made a promise to myself I would only belief information if I could verify down to its foundations….”

(Excuse me while I ROTFL.)

Sorry, but just how much CAN a person ACTUALLY verify INDEPENDENTLY? DARN LITTLE!!! Instead what Patrick has done is profess belief in an ALTERNATE, much of which is unverifiable too!

In the first few minutes Gunnels tries his first debate trick — Change the actual topic from Flat Earth to a spinning globe.

@ 42:05 Mike says this is information that he measured himself. Previously I gave three different ancient techniques. Mike and 3 others use the second method, which was first used by Eratosthenes.

Gunnels asks if he has a video that explains it. As a Math Major he would have already been familiar with the method and he is. This leads to Gunnels second trick. He plays a video about Eratosthenes and his method and then says Eratosthenes makes the ASSUMPTION that the earth is round and therefore begs the question. @ 47 minutes Mike slaps him down saying you put that on me… Did I claim that as proof? And it gets better from there.

Mike: “The essence of science is to TEST something that is FALSIFIABLE.”

[This is where Steve Kirsch flubbed it. Not being a virologist, he could not actually test viruses.]

Then Mike goes into the hypothesis IF the earth is flat….(Slapping down Gunnels straw man debate trick) and looks at real-world measurements and uses trigonometry (Right angle triangle) and concludes, that IF the sun cannot be in two different locations, then Flat Earth is proven false. (1:01:30) And it goes on from there with Mike countering Gunnels using REAL WORLD MEASUREMENTS the entire time.

Gunnels then brings up a ‘Black Swan’ event.

To understand Mike’s argument look at this paper that Mike references and Gunnels ignores:

Distance to the horizon Andrew Thomas Young. (subject matter expert)

The ‘black swan’ event has the optical measurement very obviously confounded by the refraction phenomena as Mike repeatedly points out. As a result Gunnels becomes increasingly unglued and then at 1:30:00 kicks Mike off his Rumble channel.

If you have the time this is a really good lesson in how science (and debate) is SUPPOSED to work.

And as the cherry on the Gunnels pudding (head) you have this On Gab:

Patrick Gunnels @pgunnels Mar 7·

Fuck unity and the horse it rode in on.

https://gab.com/pgunnels

Well that certainly tells us what Patrick thinks of WWG1WGA doesn’t it?

SYNOPSIS:

Gunnels supports the claim that there is no such thing as a virus, letting Ralph Baric et al off the hook.

He goes even further saying there are no pathogens just poisons and parasites. That’s a dangerous point of view that could get people killed. He insults Boomers (who make up a significant part of MAGA) and refuses to apologize. And then he caps it off with the idiotic Flat Earth crap that was disproven before Christ was born.

So is Patrick’s real goal to splinter Alt News and also make them look like far-out wack jobs?

MORE INFO:

Badlands started up in Oct of 2022.

FEBRUARY 02, 2022: Sean Morgan interviews Patrick Gunnels of “Reading Epic Threads” about his new event in Nashville “ThreadFest 2022”

Start @ 6 minutes go to 10 minutes. Gunnels gives his sales pitch (He is a salesman after all.) — He talks of an event called Patriot Doubled Down where Jon Harold was a featured speaker. Gunnels says what his friend Jon and he noticed is the event covered stuff everyone already knew. “What we wanted was an event where great minds had really really dug into events… new ways of looking at things. The most fun was when Jon and I and 8 people sat around a table and talked.” That was the genesis of Thread Fest. “We could put together an event, [small 150 max] where the producers of the Great Threads of our world, where the great independent media minds of our world had gotten together to look at history, gov documents transactions… could interact.

So as I hypothesized, Gunnels was a major force behind the formation of Badlands and the CORRALLING AND PAINTING OF ALT NEWS AS FAR OUT WACK JOBS!

AD:

Patriots, get ready!

From April 22 to April 25, 2022, Patrick Gunnels of Reading Epic Threads and Patel Patriot of the Devolution Series will host a three-day deep dive extravaganza at the incredible The Inn at Opryland in Nashville, TN! Even as we speak, speakers are being lined up. As plans come together, we will update this site on a regular basis. Participate in this event to support a conservative cause and to celebrate love…

Patrick Gunnels – He is an American news researcher and professional as well as the creator of the “Reading Epic Threads” program on various social media. He has been tutoring students in maths at all levels for over twenty years. He graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a BA in Mathematics

Patel Patriot [Jon Harold] He is a former Catholic School fundraiser…

Nothing about his jobs with software companies or sales…

…. Threadfest deadline for room bookings has passed. So I booked a bunch of rooms on my own dime and will bundle them with your ticket! https://www.threadfest.show/tickets.html – Patrick Gunnels

Rooms are $230/night deal rates are $189.

2 night stay $378 per room.

20 rooms = $7,500… They were talking 150 guests so NOT selling 20 rooms out of 150 for a first time event is not out of the question. I do not have that kind of spare $$$ to toss around, how does Gunnels if all he does is tutor math students ? However that is not ALL that Patrick does.

It is interesting that it is hard to find out just what Patrick does despite his running as a Libertarian for election to the Texas House of Representatives against Cringeshaw. (Libertarians generally take votes away from the Republicans.)

This MAY be Patrick (looks like him). If so he wrote a Linked-in article about HOW GREAT ThousandEyes is:

THOUSANDEYES

Thrive in a Connected World

ThousandEyes was founded in 2010 by Mohit Lad and Ricardo Oliveira, colleagues from the UCLA [University of California LA] Computer Science department. Our leaders have deep experience in networking, Internet routing, and SaaS

Platform Overview

End User Monitoring

Assure network performance and web app experience from employee devices

Network and Application Synthetics
See how every network and service impact your enterprise digital experience

Not only is Gunnels connected to software, ?that monitors end users? as he said on the Mark Toon’s youtube, he is also a SALESMAN and more and more it is looking like he is selling Badland Hosts down the river.

DHS ‘Cat Herders’

WHY ARE CO2 and NUCLEAR ENERGY, THE CABAL’S BOOGY MEN?

My thesis here is that the Cabal learned, in the late 1960s, early 1970s, that the earth was likely heading into an ice age. I documented this in GREENHOUSE, ICEHOUSE OR CLIMATIC MADHOUSE? h/t Neuman and Hearty (1996) They decided to hide that fact from the general population while preparing for glaciation by consolidating power, conserving resources and reducing world population growth. Via grant money they also directed research into genetic manipulation of plants and animals, surveillance techniques and other technology. They knew that over the last 5 to 8 million years during glaciation, CO2 dipped dangerously low, forcing the evolution of C4 plants and the extinction of mammals. This explains many of their disinformation campaigns such as ‘Global Warming, CO2 is BAD, Feminism, abortion is good, and having too many kids is BAD. It even explains the nuclear power scares. They are well aware that the Grand Solar Maximum that lifted the earth out of the Little Ice Age has now ended, and they may truly think that a new Ice Age is imminent.

2011- Russian scientist predicts 100 years of cooling

Updated November 11, 2016 – Top Russian Scientist Claims -The Next ‘Little Ice Age’ Is Already Here

No one wants to stick their neck out and predict glaciation, but it does not matter. The only choices are glaciation or a climatic ‘madhouse.’ Either way the only climate we will see in the near future is the ‘madhouse.’

Before I get into the evidence showing why the Cabal wants to conserve coal, oil and nuclear fuels for use during the coming cooling/ice age, I want to point out another indicator that the Cabal is expecting the transition to glacial conditions AND THEY EXPECT IT NOW. Since  William McClenney wrote Glacial Inception: the climatic ‘madhouse’ nine years ago, his link to the Neuman & Hearty paper has gone dead … Imagine that!!! Since I started to write this paper even more ‘clean-up’ of ‘inconvenient’ information has occurred so I am going to address that as a separate topic.

CLIMATIC MADHOUSE

I would also like to point out the recent change in the Cabal’s rhetoric. The talking heads no longer use ‘Global Warming,’ since it is no longer warming, and instead use ‘Climate Change’ or ‘Climate Disruption’. Hearty uses the phrase ‘Climatic Madhouse’ for the same phenomena. That is certainly a good reason for the Cabal to deep six the paper referenced by McClenney at WUWT. They do not want a reference pointing out that ‘Climate Disruption’ is not only natural, but an indication that we are heading into either Little Ice Age conditions or a full blown Ice Age.

William McClenney @ WUWT  May 31, 2014 1:38 pm

“This has prompted the remark that between the greenhouse and the icehouse lies a climatic “madhouse”, which was stated by Neuman and Hearty (1996)  http://www.researchgate.net/publication/249518169_Rapid_sea-level_changes_at_the_close_of_the_last_interglacial_(substage_5e)_recorded_in_Bahamian_island_geology/file/9c96051c6e66749912.pdf

That is the dead link I will be addressing later.

Here is another similar paper by Neuman & Hearty from December 2001

Rapid sea level and climate change at the close of the Last Interglaciation (MIS 5e): Evidence from the Bahama Islands

The geology of the Last Interglaciation (sensu stricto, marine isotope substage (MIS) 5e) in the Bahamas records the nature of sea level and climate change. After a period of quasi-stability for most of the interglaciation, during which reefs grew to +2.5 m, sea level rose rapidly at the end of the period, incising notches in older limestone. After brief stillstands at +6 and perhaps +8.5 m, sea level fell with apparent speed to the MIS 5d lowstand and much cooler climatic conditions. It was during this regression from the MIS 5e highstand that the North Atlantic suffered an oceanographic “reorganization” about 118±3 ka ago. During this same interval, massive dune-building greatly enlarged the Bahama Islands. Giant waves reshaped exposed lowlands into chevron-shaped beach ridges, ran up on older coastal ridges, and also broke off and threw megaboulders onto and over 20 m-high cliffs. The oolitic rocks recording these features yield concordant whole-rock amino acid ratios across the archipelago. Whether or not the Last Interglaciation serves as an appropriate analog for our “greenhouse” world, it nonetheless reveals the intricate details of climatic transitions between warm interglaciations and near glacial conditions.

And a paper by different authors looking at a different part of the world showing a similar chaotic transition from the warm phase to the cold phase.

Instability of climate and vegetation dynamics in Central and Eastern Europe during the final stage of the Last Interglacial and Early Glaciation

This is a review of several different studies. The scientists are looking at both the geochemical data and the biological data (pollen), two independent methods of determining the climate of the past showing the same chaos.

1. INTRODUCTION

The time intervals of global large-scale transitions between glacial and interglacial epochs are characterized by instable stages throughout Quaternary climate course. During such warm-cold transitions an increase of mid- and small-scale climate variations can be expected….

At the very end of the Eemian (PAZ E7) and just before the complete change to glacial conditions, a brief phase of warming is recognized from all geochemical indicators. This is indicated by the coordinate increase of contents and stable isotope values of both lake carbonate and the organic sediment fraction…

…Comparable findings were also described by earlier investigations of the Neumark–Nord profile (Litt, 1994). A pronounced increase of fluctuations in arboreal vegetation during the final stage of the Last Interglacial in LPAZ N8 is observed…. at least two stages of degradation of coniferous forest vegetation, while birch woodlands became widespread. Together with geochemical data, these can be interpreted as an indicator of increased climatic instability caused by short warming events during the very end of the Last Interglacial (Eemian)….

The earth’s climate seems to be bistable so that a temperature ‘low point’ has “increased climatic instability” as seen during the Little Ice Age. So whether we are looking at the very end of the Holocene and Glacial inception OR the earth bumping along at the low point with “cooling over the next ~90,000 years.” – Dr.Lorraine Lisiecki, April 6, 2010 at 7:31 pm the chances are the earth will be experiencing increasingly unstable weather and the Cabal, darn well KNOWS THAT. Hence the new term ‘Climate Disruption’.

WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTIC WE CAN EXPECT OF A COMING ICE AGE?

Arid, Windy, Dusty’ from lack of rain plus much lower CO2. Combine that with a shorter cooler summer growing season and you are looking at starvation, UNLESS you have greenhouses with Heat, CO2 and desalinated water. Under those conditions, coal, oil, gas and nuclear are priceless resources.

Köppen Climate Classification: Defining The Climate Zones Of The World

….The close correlation between climate and vegetation is evident in every part of the world. (The cold, dry conditions of Antarctica and the moist & humid conditions of the tropical rain forests in South America are just two examples of this powerful interaction.) The strong connection between the two is also proving to play a key role in categorizing and dividing the global climate into more specific zones….

Late in the 19th century, climatologist and botanist Wladimir Köppen developed a climate classification system based on vegetation. He used the correlation between vegetation and climate in different regions to divide the world’s climate into specific zones….

Climatologists continued to make amendments to Köppen’s climate classification. Rudolf Geiger was probably the most influential in making important amendments, and the subsequent Köppen-Geiger Classification System is one of the most widely used today….

The following graphs shows the Köppen Climate Boundary for mid America. If you look at the bottom graph, you can see how the cooling in the 1970s moved the Köppen Climate Boundary south by about 150 to 200 miles. Think what that did to the grain harvests in not only the USA, but also in Canada, Russia and China. World leaders were panicking as world grain stores were depleted to a 30 day supply by1969 per 1974 CIA Report mentioned below.

This is the December 3, 1972 Letter from George Kukla and others warning Nixon of a coming Ice Age. I originally saw this letter at Tony Heller’s site. Between the time I started writing and now it was removed. However I found another copy.

An important letter sent to the President about the danger of climate change

An important conference was held in January at Brown University:  “The Present Interglacial, How and When Will it End?”   As a result, the following letter was sent to the President.  The media has not reported this, but you should be aware of the letter and its significance.

Dear Mr. President:

Aware of your deep concern with the future of the world, we feel obliged to inform you on the results of the scientific conference held here recently. The conference dealt with the past and future changes of climate and was attended by 42 top American and European investigators. We enclose the summary report published in Science and further publications are forthcoming in Quaternary Research.

The main conclusion of the meeting was that a global deterioration of climate, by order of magnitude larger than any hitherto experience by civilized mankind, is a very real possibility and indeed may be due very soon.

The cooling has natural cause and falls within the rank of processes which produced the last ice age. This is a surprising result based largely on recent studies of deep sea sediments.

Existing data still do not allow forecast of the precise timing of the predicted development, nor the assessment of the man’s interference with the natural trends. It could not be excluded however that the cooling now under way in the Northern Hemisphere is the start of the expected shift. The present rate of the cooling seems fast enough to bring glacial temperatures in about a century, if continuing at the present pace.

The practical consequences which might be brough by such developments to existing social institution are among others:

(1) Substantially lowered food production due to the shorter growing seasons and changed rain distribution in the main grain producing belts of the world, with Eastern Europe and Central Asia to be first affected.

(2) Increased frequency and amplitude of extreme weather anomalies such as those bringing floods, snowstorms, killing frosts, etc.

With the efficient help of the world leaders, the research …

With best regards,

George J. Kukla (Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory)
R. K. Matthews (Chairman, Dept of Geological Sciences, Brown U)

And a 1974 article by the Guardian. Again, H/T Tony Heller. Funny, this one was not deep-sixed like the above image.

The Malthusian Eugenicists like John D Rockefeller seized on this coming Ice Age information to further scare world leaders into going along with their Depopulation plans as documented in the 1974 Kissinger Report, otherwise known as the National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200 [my excerpts]. (See the rest of my Depop series listed at the end of the article.)

As secret reports like 1974 NSSM 200 and the 1974 CIA Report: A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems” were being written about the coming cooling/ possible glaciation, Maurice Strong, the Rockefeller’s lapdog, was screaming about ‘Global Warming’ at the UN Conference on the Human Environment, (June 1972.) There he was busytelling the newly formed NGOs to go home and raise hell. NGOs BTW were Strong’s brainchild based on YMCA International who he had worked with. LINK

It is instructive to read Strong’s 1972 Stockholm speech and compare it with the issues of Earth Summit 1992. Strong warned urgently about global warming, the devastation of forests, the loss of biodiversity, polluted oceans, the population time bomb. Then as now, he invited to the conference the brand-new environmental NGOs [non-governmental organizations]: he gave them money to come; they were invited to raise hell at home. After Stockholm, environment issues became part of the administrative framework in Canada, the U.S., Britain, and Europe. http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html

A year later the Rockefeller OPEC puppets — Think ARAMCO who Strong worked for — implemented the 1973 oil embargo quadrupling the price of oil by 1974. Remember, on August 15, 1971, President Richard Nixon closed the U.S. gold window and the Petrodollar Agreement was implemented in 1973.

“..There was a phony “nationalization” of Aramco in the 1970s… the Saudi government took over Aramco, formally, but then immediately turned around and granted the Aramco-Rockefeller consortium the exclusive contract to “manage” the operation…” LINK 

So any bets the Malthusian Rockefellers were behind OPEC?

COOLING VS THE FOOD PROBLEM – First there is the problem of WATER.

I think everyone is aware of what shorter growing seasons do to the food supply, at least I hope so. I also hope people can connect increase in solar energy going into the oceans with an increase of evaporation and thus an increase in rain. Likewise a DECREASE in solar energy will mean less evaporation and less rain. Compared to the Holocene, the Wisconsin Ice Age was very dry.

Global land environments since the last interglacial

Early Holocene vegetation

Summary map of vegetation cover at 8,000 14C years BP. By 8,000 14C y.a., the Earth was under a full interglacial climate,[the Holocene]with conditions warmer and moister than present in many parts of the world. Tropical forest in Africa (and probably also Asia) was expanded in area, and the areas of desert in Africa and Asia were much reduced.

Africa is interesting. The present potential looks more like the full glaciation map than it does like the Early Holocene map.

Full glaciation

Early Holocene

Present Potential

So the first problem in an Ice Age (and now) is the lack of RAIN.

Greenhouses take the chaotic weather out of the picture

Oct 2022 – CO2 enrichment in greenhouse production: Towards a sustainable approach

The ice that had formed from falling snow during the transition from the last of the cold, dry, windy ice ages to the first of the warm, wet calms of the modern 10,000-year-long Holocene climate is 1,678 meters, just over a mile, down the GISP2 core. Rendered in ice, what exactly would it look like, this boundary of epochs? The young American scientists had read the literature from Chet Langway, Willi Dansgaard, Hans Oeschger, Wally Broecker, and others, and they had heard from the Europeans, who were about a year ahead of them in drilling at Summit. Yet still they were not entirely prepared for what they saw that day in the ice, for the suddenness of it.”…

“‘You did not need to be a trained ice core observer to see this,’ recalled Alley. ‘Ken Taylor is sitting there with the ECM and he’s running along and his green line is going wee, wee, wee, wee – Boing! Weep! Woop! And then it stays down.’ Dust in the windy ice age atmosphere lowered the acidity of the core to a completely new state. ‘We’re just standing there and he just draws a picture of it,”‘Alley said.”….

“𝗜𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗜𝗦𝗣𝟮 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆 𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗹𝘆 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗔𝗹𝗹𝗲𝘆’𝘀 𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗻 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗰𝗲. “𝗜𝘁 𝘀𝗹𝗶𝗱𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗜’𝗺 𝘁𝗿𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀: ‘𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁’𝘀 𝗮 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿, 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁’𝘀 𝗮 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁’𝘀 𝗮 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 – 𝘄𝗼𝗼𝗽𝘀, 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲’𝘀 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳 𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗸.’ 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝘁’𝘀 𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂. 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲’𝘀 𝗮 𝗵𝘂𝗴𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗰𝗲, 𝗶𝘁 𝗴𝗼𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿, 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮 𝗹𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗱𝘂𝘀𝘁.” [The clear thick ice would be the Holocene and as they go deeper they see the transition to the Wisconsin Ice Age. – GC]


Paper after paper began to roll off the scientific presses from 1992 on, and just like the unfolding recognition of plate tectonics which preceded it by a few decades, it was literally riveting for all of us geologists fascinated by the Quaternary. So we get our first trap-speed  👉 𝕔𝕝𝕚𝕞𝕒𝕥𝕖 𝕔𝕒𝕟 𝕤𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕔𝕙 𝕒𝕓𝕣𝕦𝕡𝕥𝕝𝕪 𝕗𝕣𝕠𝕞 𝕚𝕥𝕤 𝕔𝕠𝕝𝕕 𝕥𝕠 𝕚𝕥𝕤 𝕨𝕒𝕣𝕞 𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕥𝕖 𝕚𝕟 𝕛𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕠𝕟𝕖 𝕪𝕖𝕒𝕣.….” — William McClenney, Geologist THE END OF THE HOLOCENE

Notice the optimal range is 700 to 1200 PPM over double the current ambient levels. Also note plants suck the CO2 down to around 200 ppm. Outdoor studies have shown the same. Technology has even advanced to the point there is now a CO2 OPTIMIZER.

Growers tend to supplement CO2 in their greenhouse using a combination of educated guesswork and their talent and skill for growing crops. Adding CO2 is a matter of ‘feeling’, because it is simply not possible to measure the effectiveness of CO2. That is, until now. Ridder has, in partnership with Wageningen University, developed the CO2 Optimizer. This smart and helpful software module calculates the optimum level of CO2 in the greenhouse, enabling the grower to determine the most effective CO2 dose. The result: no more worrying about your CO2 strategy – it will always be on point for the best possible yields!

That device would certainly be useful in Ice Age greenhouses.

URANIUM AND NUCLEAR POWER

An obvious solution to the ‘cold, dry, windy ’ problem of an Ice Age is desalination. Israel put into large scale use the reverse osmosis technology developed in the USA in the early 60s. LINK 1 as well as water conservation methods in agriculture LINK 2-Israel agi.

Desalination was first developed in Israel in 1965, when Mekorot, Israel’s national water utility, established the first seawater desalination facility using vaporization technology in an effort to address the chronic thirst of the city of Eilat, located at the extreme southern tip of Israel on the Red Sea. A highly energy-intensive process, Mekorot looked for an alternative, energy-saving process, which it found in the reverse osmosis (RO) technology developed in the United States. In the early 1970s after the energy crisis of the Yom Kippur War, Mekorot began installing small-scale brackish water RO-desalination plants and, within the decade, established 15 desalination plants that supplied water to the Arava valley residents. Increasing demand and decreasing supply of freshwater in the coming years encouraged Mekorot to develop seawater desalination as an additional source, and the first plant (which desalinated a mixture of seawater and the reject brine from desalinated brackish water) commenced operation in 1997 in Eilat (Mekorot 2006). The motivation behind desalination of seawater in Israel stems from the fact that current demand and projected future demand cannot be met by natural freshwater sources alone – a disparity that results from population growth, overconsumption, misallocation, and pollution…

https://arava.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Desalination-in-Israel.pdf

International Atomic Energy Agency. (2010). Environmental Impact Assessment of Nuclear Desalination

Description

Nuclear desalination can be considered one of the most viable means of producing fresh water in arid areas. This publication addresses environmental concerns, and aims to improve understanding. It provides an overview of the nature and magnitude of the environmental impacts of nuclear desalination. In addition to detailing experimental data and the experience gained in operating nuclear desalination projects, it highlights risks perceived by the public. The publication encompasses environmental and socioeconomic information provided by specialized sources including some Member States with extensive experience in operating nuclear desalination systems. Addressing these concerns can be of critical importance for the effective use of nuclear desalination to its full potential….

Jul 14, 2019, FORBES: How 1,500 Nuclear-Powered Water Desalination Plants Could Save The World From Desertification

Oct 21, 2022, FORBES: U.S. Nuclear Reactors Among The Oldest In The World

The latest edition of the World Nuclear Industry Status Report shows that U.S. nuclear power plants are among the oldest in the world. The country’s 92 reactors currently in operation have a mean age of 41.6 years….

The U.S. was among the first commercial adopters of nuclear energy in the 1950s, explaining the number of aging reactors today.A building boom between the 1960s and 1970s created today’s nuclear power plants in the United States. Of the five reactors completed in the 1990s and the one finished in 2016, all were holdovers of delayed construction projects from the 1970s experiencing roadblocks due to regulatory problems and mounting opposition to nuclear energy

So despite nuclear energy being CO2 neutral and the southwest’s need for water, the USA has not approved new construction since the 1970s…. There is that critical 1970s decade again when everything changed.


Giving society cheap, abundant energy … would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.

Paul Ehrlich, “An Ecologist’s Perspective on Nuclear Power”, May/June 1978 issue of Federation of American Scientists Public Issue Report

2014 – Clinton and Obama science advisor, John Holdren, in his own (radical) words – (Don’t miss the comments about bioweapons released by the USA on the Mexican border.)

Ehrlich and Holdren were co-authors of The Population Bomb (1968.) A real pair of winners, those two.

Back to The Köppen Climate Boundary.

Not only was the area in the USA/Canada/Russia/China moved south by 100 to 200 miles in the seventies, CO2 is very soluble in COLD WATER (van ‘t Hoff equation.) So as the earth cools CO2 gets sucked up by the oceans thereby lowering the amount of CO2 available for plants.

As ocean temperatures rise, the solubility of CO2 in seawater declines.  Thus increasing ocean temperature moves CO2 from the ocean into the atmosphere, and decreasing ocean temperatures move CO2 out of the atmosphere and back into the ocean.  As you can see in the graph below, a 10C shift in temperature causes about 30% reduction in dissolved CO2.  Closely corresponding to what we see in the measured ice core graph above. — Tony Heller

Under stress seeds will not even start and the cut off is ~220 ppm CO2. The Climastrologists played games with the measurements of ice cores and came up with 150. AGAIN the chemistry is CO2 loves water so the air bubbles have less CO2 than the entire ice sample. Dr Zbigniew Jaworowski explains that dis-info campaign HERE.

Jaworowski data is backed up by plant fossils.

The CO2 Record in Plant Fossils

Plant fossils obtained from sedimentary rocks and peat deposits are a relatively new tool being used to unravel Earth’s carbon dioxide (CO2) history. Tiny pores on plant leaves and needles called stomata regulate carbon dioxide absorption and water vapor release. Stomata numbers decrease during times of high atmospheric CO2, and increase when atmospheric CO2 is low….

Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time 

CO2 and our Food Supply

Most of our veggies and fruit are C3 not C4.

C3 Plants

The vast majority of land plants we rely on for human food and energy use the C3 pathway, which is the oldest of the pathways for carbon fixation, and it is found in plants of all taxonomies. Almost all extant nonhuman primates across all body sizes, including prosimians, new and old world monkeys, and all the apes—even those who live in regions with C4 and CAM plants—depend on C3 plants for sustenance….

The problem is the C3 pathway needs more water and CO2 than the C4 pathway and both were in short supply during the last Ice Age and are certainly not at optimum levels now as shown by the African desertification since the Holocene Optimum.

Carbon starvation in glacial trees recovered from the La Brea tar pits, southern California (THINK SEA LEVEL!)

Abstract

The Rancho La Brea tar pit fossil collection includes Juniperus (C3) wood specimens that 14C date between 7.7 and 55 thousand years (kyr) B.P., providing a constrained record of plant response for southern California during the last glacial period. Atmospheric CO2 concentration ([CO2]) ranged between 180 and 220 ppm during glacial periods, rose to 280 ppm before the industrial period, and is currently approaching 380 ppm in the modern atmosphere. Here we report on [delta]13C of Juniperus wood cellulose, and show that glacial and modern trees were operating at similar leaf- intercellular [CO2](ci)/atmospheric [CO2](ca) values. As a result, glacial trees were operating at ci values much closer to the CO2-compensation point for C3 photosynthesis than modern trees, indicating that glacial trees were undergoing carbon starvation. In addition, we modeled relative humidity by using [delta]18O of cellulose from the same Juniperus specimens and found that glacial humidity was 10% higher than that in modern times, indicating that differences in vapor-pressure deficits did not impose additional constrictions on ci/ca in the past. By scaling ancient ci values to plant growth by using modern relationships, we found evidence that C3 primary productivity was greatly diminished in southern California during the last glacial period.

…glacial humidity was 10% higher than that in modern times…” as the below maps show. This may indicate why the Cabal wants California and the US Southwest cleared of those pesky ‘Deplorables.’

At the most extreme stage of the last glaciation, most of Canada and much of the northern USA were covered by an ice sheet thousands of metres in thickness. Colder and often drier than present conditions predominated across most of the USA. The eastern deciduous and conifer forests were replaced by more open conifer woodlands with cooler-climate species of pines and a large component of spruce. The open spruce woodland and parkland extended somewhat further west than present, into what is now the prairie zone. As a result of aridity and lowering of sea level (which lowered inland water tables), much of Florida was covered by drifting sand dunes. Notably moister than present conditions occurred across much of the south-west, with open conifer woodlands and scrub common in areas that are now semi-desert.

https://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/nercNORTHAMERICA.html

1998 Carbon dioxide starvation, the development of C4 ecosystems, and mammalian evolution

ABSTRACT

The decline of atmospheric CO2 over the last 65 million years (Ma) resulted in the ‘CO2-starvation’ of terrestrial ecosystems and led to the widespread distribution of C4 plants, which are less sensitive to CO2 levels than are C3 plants. Global expansion of C4 biomass is recorded in the diets of mammals from Asia, Africa, North America, and South America during the interval from about 8 to 5 Ma. This was accompanied by the most significant Cenozoic faunal turnover on each of these continents, indicating that ecological changes at this time were an important factor in mammalian extinction. Further expansion of tropical C4 biomass in Africa also occurred during the last glacial interval confirming the link between atmospheric CO2 levels and C4 biomass response. Changes in fauna and flora at the end of the Miocene, and between the last glacial and interglacial, have previously been attributed to changes in aridity; however, an alternative explanation for a global expansion of C4 biomass is CO2 starvation of C3 plants when atmospheric CO2 levels dropped below a threshold significant to C3 plants. Aridity may also have been a factor in the expansion of C4 ecosystems but one that was secondary to, and perhaps because of, gradually decreasing CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. Mammalian evolution in the late Neogene, then, may be related to the CO2 starvation of C3 ecosystems.

Lower CO2 levels PLUS lower moisture with a COLD boot from glaciation did lead to the evolution of C4 and CAM plants which use a different but more energy expensive chemical pathway to conserve water.

Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society -biological sciences -1998

Carbon dioxide starvation, the development of C4 ecosystems, and mammalian evolution

…Changes in fauna and flora at the end of the Miocene, and between the last glacial and interglacial, have previously been attributed to changes in aridity; however, an alternative explanation for a global expansion of C4 biomass is carbon dioxide starvation of C3 plants when atmospheric carbon dioxide levels dropped below a threshold significant to C3 plants. Aridity may also have been a factor in the expansion of C4 ecosystems but one that was secondary to, and perhaps because of, gradually decreasing carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere. Mammalian evolution in the late Neogene, then, may be related to the carbon dioxide starvation of C3 ecosystems.

The Evolution of C4 Photosynthesis

SUMMARY

C4 photosynthesis is a series of anatomical and biochemical modifications that concentrate CO2 around the carboxylating enzyme Rubisco, thereby increasing photo-synthetic efficiency in conditions promoting high rates of photo-respiration. The C4 pathway independently evolved over 45 times in 19 families of angiosperms, and thus represents one of the most convergent of evolutionary phenomena. Most origins of C4 photosynthesis occurred in the dicots, with at least 30 lineages. C4 photosynthesis first arose in grasses, probably during the Oligocene epoch (24–35 million yr ago). The earliest C4 dicots are likely members of the Chenopodiaceae dating back 15–21 million yr; however, most C4 dicot lineages are estimated to have appeared relatively recently, perhaps less than 5 million yr ago. C4 photosynthesis in the dicots originated in arid regions of low latitude, implicating combined effects of heat, drought and/or salinity as important conditions promoting C4 evolution. Low atmospheric CO2 is a significant contributing factor, because it is required for high rates of photorespiration. Consistently, the appearance of C4 plants in the evolutionary record coincides with periods of increasing global aridification and declining atmospheric CO2. Gene duplication followed by neo- and nonfunctionalization are the leading mechanisms for creating C4 genomes, with selection for carbon conservation traits under conditions promoting high photo respiration being the ultimate factor behind the origin of C4 photosynthesis.

Speaking of plants, while scientists will lie to keep the grant money coming, plants do not.

Latitude says: December 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Gail, put this in your bookmarks…….they found the cut off was 220 ppm….not 200
I don’t know where people got the idea that it’s 150 and keep repeating that….220 stops them

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x/pdf

What is interesting is ALL the archived versions of this June 2010 paper prior to September 28, 2019 have been scrubbed…

Side note on ‘disappearing’ info: Climate Alarmism Central actually does exist. It is part of the Aspen Global Change Institute. I will be getting into that mess in my next article.

This is what that paper now says:

2010 – Plant responses to low [CO2] of the past

Biomass production

Such studies have shown that the average biomass production of modern C3 plants is reduced by c. 50% when grown at low (180–220 ppm) vs modern (350–380 ppm) [CO2], when other conditions are optimal (Sage & Coleman, 2001; Fig. 5). There is, however, variation in this response among C3 species (Fig. 5), as well as within C3 species, whereby reductions in biomass may vary by 40–70% among genotypes (Ward & Strain, 1997; Hovenden & Schimanski, 2000; Mohan et al., 2004). In addition, as [CO2] declines to 150 ppm, biomass production may be reduced by as much as 92%, as was observed in A. theophrasti (Dippery et al., 1995; Figs 2, 5)….

Notice the LIE by omission? They are talking BIOMASS and not how well the plants do from seed germination to producing the seeds for the next generation during a growing season.. Under stress the seeds will not even start to grow.

Seed dormancy and ABA signaling

The biology of seeds can be divided in three important phases: development that includes zygotic embryogenesis, dormancy that prevents seeds from germinating under unfavorable conditions and germination (seed emergence). The transition between dormancy and germination represents a critical stage in the life cycle of higher plants and it is an important ecological and commercial trait. Seed germination is regulated by endogenous hormonal cues and external environmental signals such as water, low temperature and light, which influence whether an imbibed seed completes germination or remains dormant. Seed dormancy, a temporary quiescent state that is observed in seeds from many plants species, prevents untimely germination and ensures plant survival by adjusting vegetative development to seasonal changes in the environment. A dynamic balance between synthesis and catabolism of the abscisic acid (ABA) and gibberellins (GAs) controls the equilibrium between dormancy and germination. At the molecular level, the ABA/GA balance is in part determined by the antagonistic control of ABA and GA on each other through their reciprocal regulation of the transcription of their metabolic genes.

The ABA, derived from epoxycarotenoid cleavage, serves as a plant-specific signal during development and in response to environmental stresses such as cold, drought and high concentrations of salt in the soil. The ABA also elicits, among others numerous physiological functions, the closure of stomatal pores to restrict transpiration, adjustment of metabolism to tolerate desiccation and cold temperatures, and inhibition seedlings growth. Likewise, ABA represses germination and is presumed to function to stabilize the dormant state. ABA, like other hormones, functions through a complex network of signaling pathways where the cell response is initiated by ABA perception which triggers downstream signaling cascades to induce the final physiological effects….

Even C4 plants do better in higher CO2 atmospheres.

C4 Plants (Water Use Efficiency) — Summary

…In summary, it is clear that C4 plants do indeed respond positively to increases in the air’s CO2 concentration by exhibiting reduced stomatal conductances and transpirational water losses, which contribute to increases in water-use efficiency.  Hence, knowledgeable researchers are suggesting that the long-held view that C4 plants will not be benefited by elevated concentrations of atmospheric CO2 needs to be replaced with this more correct assessment (Wand et al., 1999Zhu et al., 1999).  Clearly, as the atmospheric CO2 concentration increases, most C4 plants will almost certainly display increases in water-use efficiency, which should allow them to better deal with conditions of water stress.  Consequently, this phenomenon should allow plants of the future to expand their ranges into areas where they currently cannot survive due to limited soil moisture availability, thereby contributing to a great “greening of the globe.”

There is another more subtle aspect to the CO2 starvation level and that is the change in partial pressure as the elevation above sea level increases.

Impact of lower atmospheric carbon dioxide on tropical mountain ecosystems

. Carbon limitation due to lower ambient CO2 partial pressures had a significant impact on the distribution of forest on the tropical mountains, in addition to climate. Hence, tree line elevation should not be used to infer palaeotemperatures….

Effect of Low Glacial Atmospheric CO2 on Tropical African Montane Vegetation

Abstract

Estimates of glacial-interglacial climate change in tropical Africa have varied widely. Results from a process-based vegetation model show how montane vegetation in East Africa shifts with changes in both carbon dioxide concentration and climate. For the last glacial maximum, the change in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration alone could explain the observed replacement of tropical montane forest by a scrub biome. This result implies that estimates of the last glacial maximum tropical cooling based on tree- line shifts must be revised.”

Eco Physics Lab PDF: Glacial trees from the La Brea tar pits show physiological constraints of low CO2

While [CO2] does not vary with elevation, CO2 partial pressure decreases in proportion to total atmospheric pressure. Under modern conditions, partial pressures of CO2 at high-elevation sites are 10–30% lower than at low-elevation sites, producing an even more conservative comparison between glacial and modern conditions….

That means if the CO2 level is around 210 ppm you can kiss trees and other C3 plants growing above sea level goodby and that is most of the earth.

According to Barnola et al (1987) the level of CO2 in the global atmosphere during many tens of thousands of years spanning 30,000 to110,000 BP were below 200ppm. If this were true then the growth of C3 plants should be limited at the global scale because their net Photosynthesis is depressed as CO2 concentration in air decreases to less than about 250ubar (less than about 250ppmv)(McKay et al 1991) This would lead to the extinction of C3 plant species . This has however not been recorded by paleobotanists (Manum 1991).”

http://www.co2web.info/stoten92.pdf

Again, plants do not lie but the scientists owned by the Cabal do.

Since I have mentioned Köppen several times and I remember this information but not who said it, I feel it only fair to post E.M. Smith’s (ChiefIO‘s) comment:

From Ice Age by John and Mary Gribbin (a wonderful read, gives the richness of the characters in the discovery of the ice ages, the history of the process, and a gentle introduction to some of the science involved.):

Pg.53: […]the single most important thing to emerge from these discussions was Koppen’s realization of the key season in the Ice Age saga. Adhemar and Croll had thought that the decisive factor in encouraging Ice to spread across the Northern Hemisphere must be the occurrence of extremely cold winters, resulting in increased snowfall. At first, Milankovitch had shared this view. But it was Koppen who pointed out that it is always cold enough for snow to fall in the Arctic winter, even today, and that the reason that the Northern Hemisphere is not in the grip of a full Ice Age is because the ‘extra’ snow melts away again in the summer.

[EMS: Note that the Southern Hemisphere is similarly irrelevant to the ice age cycle since it is always cold enough for snow to stay frozen. It just doesn’t change enough to matter.]

Pg 54: He reasoned that the way to encourage the ice to spread would be to have a reduction in summer warmth, because then less of the winter snowfall would melt. If less snow melted in summer than fell in winter, the ice sheets would grow – and once they had started to grow, the feedback effect of the way the ice and snow reflect away incoming solar energy would enhance the process.

Pg 57: It isn’t so much that Ice Ages occur when the astronomical influences conspire to produce particularly cool summers, rather what matters is that Interglacials only occur when the astronomical influences conspire to produce unusually warm summers, encouraging the ice to retreat. Without all three of the astronomical rhythms working in step this way, the Earth stays in a deep freeze.

End Quote.

So, to summarize:

1) The south pole doesn’t matter to the process, it’s always frozen.

2) We are normally in a long ice age and only pop out for short intervals when conditions are just right.

3) The ‘just right’ is Northern Hemisphere summers warm enough to melt the snow and ice.

4) Warm enough is when the N. hemisphere: must be pointed at the sun in summer when: at close approach to the sun with the right elliptical shape, with the pole tilted over far enough, with… or we freeze.

I would add a note that I think it is particularly illuminating that we are near the end of an Interglacial (next stop is an ice age), the only thing that keeps it away is the summer Arctic ice and snow melt. So what is the AGW crowd in histrionics about? That the Arctic ice and snow are not sticking through the summer… Think about….

Right now Earth is nearest the sun during northern winters, farthest from the sun during northern summers. If E.M. Smith’s theory is correct, we’re headed for another ice age in the near future. This shift is called the precession of the equinoxes and has a period of 26,000 years. In only 12,000 years the perihelion will be in July. The summer solstice, 21 June @ 65◦ N is what most scientist use for measuring the critical solar insolation.

As of 2014 the Holocene is exactly 11,717 years old (based on the end of the Younger Dryas cold interval). Or pretty much about half a precession cycle.” — William McClenney

Now, in 2023 it is 11726 years and we just went through the warm bump before the dive into the cold….

And one last word from Tony Heller:

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Word of The Week:

Dunning–Kruger effect

noun

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a type of task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. In popular culture, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as a claim about general overconfidence of people with low intelligence instead of specific overconfidence of people unskilled at a particular task.


Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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Explanation of graph

People are actually fairly good at estimating relative abilities, but they are not as good at estimating actual abilities – and the fit is increasingly bad at lower abilities, where people overestimate their own competence.

The effect is commonly used as a justification of authoritarianism by leftists and elitists, and as an argument in favor of the anti-popular positions of scientism.

In words

“The more you know, the more you know that you don’t know.”

“The less you know, the less you know that you don’t know.”

Relevance

There is a fake news site that exists for the purpose of fooling conservatives, and thereby discrediting them in the eyes of everybody else. As a form of insult to its victims, this website calls itself the “Dunning-Kruger Times”.


LINK: https://dunning-kruger-times.com/garth-brooks-booed-off-stage-at-123rd-annual-texas-country-jamboree/

While the Dunning-Kruger Times (DKT) website claims that its stories are satire, the stories are always remarkably unfunny, and IMO are clearly not intended to be funny.

They are intended to be believable.

True satire sites of a similar nature typically run stories which slowly increase the level of absurdity until the reader recognizes hyperbole and begins to get the joke. These sites can be incredibly (no pun intended) funny, and have often had me breathless with laughter.

DKT never crafts funny satire. The goal appears to be to get reasonable people to see the story and recognize that the story is reasonable, likely to have occurred, and affirming of conservative values. The stories are easily posted to social media. The trouble is, the stories are never true.

As I have said, the stories are discrediting of whoever posts them, and many famous conservatives (Gov. Greg Abbott and Juanita Broaderick, most recently) have been fooled.

The stories are ALMOST libelous, but under the cover of satire, they remain protected and legal speech. Moreover, because the false allegations are very plausible, the accusations anticipate likely real positions by the people who are libeled, and are thus unlikely to be argued against.

It is my belief that these sites and stories are the work of the 3-letter agencies and/or the DNC, both as a psychological operation against Americans, and in particular as a way of discrediting those who would be expected to post or “like” the stories on social media.

For example, Juanita Broaddrick posted this valid tweet, showing significant public sentiment in favor of country music artist Jason Aldean.

Shortly thereafter, she was apparently misled into posting this tweet.

She also posted this tweet.

Notice how the regime media then amplifies the outcome, by pushing the semi-libelous article onto Broaddrick and not onto the DKT.

LINK: https://www.tmz.com/2023/07/22/blake-shelton-jason-aldean-controversy-fake-article-satire-site/

In my opinion, Broaddrick was the victim of a disinformation operation.

The good news is, Juanita Broaddrick just keeps fighting. She doesn’t lose heart because the other side got in a couple of sucker punches.

Personally, I think that the DKT needs to be investigated all the way back to their (IMO) CIA, big tech, or DNC roots.

DKT is a discreditation site – a psy-op – and NOT a regular satire site.


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