“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
The term “clot shot” was one of the absolute BEST memes that this site has ever promoted. I personally picked it up off of Aubergine, if I remember correctly. That term – I am quite certain – saved THOUSANDS of lives – maybe MILLIONS.
The problem?
That name needs an upgrade. We have NEW PEOPLE TO SAVE.
We are now very certain that the mRNA COVID vaccines cause significant immune problems in recipients.
I was first convinced of this by the report from Dr. Nathan Thompson.
Fauci and Pfizer have painted themselves into a bit of a corner. I now believe that they “played a charade” on boosters – that boosters were their intent all along. I think this WHOLE scam was very intentional. But it gets far, far worse. I think I see that they have an agenda much bigger …
Official Government of Canada data is truly terrifying; it suggests the Triple Vaccinated have developed AIDS & are now 5.1x more likely to die of Covid-19 than the Unvaccinated
A Beautiful Demonstration of Real Science in Action, and How Political Correctness Prevents Obvious Correlations and Causations From Being Seen by Monetarily Dependent Scientists
Being “Sherlock Holmes” is easy, when everybody else in mainstream science has turned into a character from “The Muppets” or “Sesame Street”.
Except for Dr. Charles Hoffe, plus a bunch of other physicians and scientists who our media calls “The Dirty Dozen”, that “Count” guy is my only real competition now.
Of course, when he counts 57 genders, he will leave our little group of truth-tellers, but until then he can probably count protons and neutrons reliably.
Thankfully, I’m retired. I can speak the truth. “The Count” is still employed by the dirty establishment.
Consider a basic idea of vaccination known from literally centuries of science – from even BEFORE the first vaccination in the 1790s, when people used WEAKENED smallpox to gain immunity to NORMAL smallpox (a process called “inoculation” or “variolation”).
Here is that bedrock idea. A principle so simple, it borders on “an obvious trend in a collection of observations”.
“Immunity conferred by catching a disease naturally and recovering is strong, and any form of preventing the disease by inoculation (including variolation and vaccination) attempts to live up to that level of immunity. Some vaccines will give life-long immunity, if that is possible, or for as long as the disease itself gives immunity, if lucky, but in many if not most cases, the durability of immunity conferred by a vaccine is LESS than the durability of immunity conferred by the disease itself.”
So I repeat – this simple idea is something that “everybody knew” from roughly 1790 to 2019, and even before 1790, when vaccination wasn’t even called vaccination.
But then – suddenly – in 2020, the media talked us out of centuries of knowledge about how immunity works, by a kind of hand-waving authority – allegedly from “the experts” at CDC and NIH.
Fauci and Scarf Lady went along with the media hoax. They didn’t have to say a lot. It was mostly by leaving OPEN the question of natural immunity, when it should NOT have been left open, that damage to science and society was done.
Of course, after enough results poured in from laboratories around the world, noting how much stronger natural immunity to COVID-19 appeared to be, we were relieved to discover that – Yes, Virginia – immunity is still behaving just like it did before COVID-19.
(The feds will certainly have to do some “funding mechanics” to fix all those people reporting “incorrect science”, won’t they?)
And THAT is when Rand Paul began taking Anthony Fauci to the woodshed over natural immunity.
So why the heck did we ever suspect or believe otherwise?
No good reason, except the Fake News.
Think about it.
If this does not prove to you that the media controls science, and not the other way around, then wait for the next example.
I’m going to replay parts of a conversation some of us has on October 1 of this year.
It’s in images, but I will also provide a link and the text.
I now know two people personally who get the injection. One was my BIL who got covid anyway, but we made sure he got treated the right way and he got better immediately, and is back at full health despite diabetes.
The other is a friend who cannot breath well even with an oxygen tank turned to max. He has seen every type of doctor, and no one can figure out what the problem is.
He and I had a sharp but friendly argument over the injections a month or so ago. He is MAGA but a true “vax” believer (hard to imagine, but they exist).
I have spoken to him a couple times at length, but refrained from bringing up the injection as a possible cause of his present distress. His wife thinks he is not going to make it, but, again, I have not mentioned to her the injection as a consideration.
The doctors will not tell him, and at this point what difference could it make, other than making him feel more stress or more unhappiness?
I feel like this all the time. No one in my circles will listen. It’s pointless, and would end up splintering relationships that will be needed as these people all go down sick.
I actually feel this way about ALL vaccines to an extent, and I still think that my younger nephew is actually vaccine injured. No one will listen to me on that, either, given there is another diagnosis that fits. They didn’t listen to me about the one drug he was on, and I turned out to be right. I was the first one to call that the drug was the problem, and eventually it could not be ignored.
This is no different. All the research won’t change minds when all the people in family want to be able to do is travel, and that was the driver for the decision.
You are a real life Cassandra. The fact that you endure this psychological burden because you know at some point in the future those people will need you is admirable. You are demonstrating the true character of a disciple of the Lord. Your faith is obviously sustaining you.
He got the shots in March. I will ask him what type. The breathing problem was gradual and started about a month ago and has become severe.
We spoke again yesterday, and I suggested D3 and Zinc. Oddly enough, his own doctor told him to take those, and he has not taken them. Now he says he will.
He is going in for angiograms on Tuesday and used that as a polite excuse to defer on any further discussion.
But I would love to hear your perspective when I get you the info.
Great! Both D3 and zinc are necessary to fight off respiratory viruses, and they tend to be deficient as we get older. If he does have spike protein lung damage, every minor respiratory virus brings back the COVID lung problems.
Also magnesium helps me. It is a vasodilator and antihypertensive, and I suspect that it is a PULMONARY vasodilator, too.
I know that fear. Inability to breathe properly is extremely scary. And it scared a lot of people onto vents where they died.
One of the foulest tricks of both COVID and MASKS is that they mess up O2 / CO2 balance. One has to ADAPT to the new balance. THAT is hard. One reason I refuse to wear a mask is that it really messes with my oxygen balance. It messes me up for HOURS. And I’m IMMUNE, damn it! Pointless and CRUEL to make me wear a mask – these Stalinist bastards!
I am still trying to find out what “vax” he took. He is not doing well. He had two angiograms and the doctors are still uncertain what his problem is, and he has been fretful (so I am told).
It is a delicate situation.
But please keep this post in mind so when I find out we can discuss.
One way you might get him the proper help is to suggest that he may have HAD COVID AND DIDN’T KNOW IT. Both he and the Covidian doctors will believe that, before they will believe that the jab WAS the “Covid” that he got.
That will get the docs thinking that he has long-haul, and they may send him on to a “long-haul” specialist.
So far, that is the only sensible way. Truth is the best generally, but at the right time, otherwise it can be a bad choice if the truth creates more negativity.
Gail’s story of her long-term oxygen problem being cleared up by moxidectin (relative of ivermectin) may be useful, because it can be mentioned simply as fact – and it’s kind of funny because it was an accidental exposure (while dipping sheep in a skin-penetrating formulation).
I spoke to my friend. He took Moderna. When I asked he pre-emptively said “what I have has nothing to do with the voccine.”
He said the docs told him he had severe pulmonary hypertension, and there was nothing they could do except give him the generic form of Viagra.
The MDs might very well be telling him exactly the way it is, and who am I to say differently? Still, his case at least proves to me how deep my distrust is.
TY for engaging on this personal interest! As always, I highly respect your knowledge and judgment.
Wolf again…..
Now – if you follow through that conversation, you will see that Tona’s friend started off with vaccination, followed later by persistent shortness of breath. You can see that I suspected he might need magnesium as a pulmonary vasodilator – that his case might be similar to mine, which was from COVID itself, only his seems to be much WORSE.
Later, you see that he’s getting an angiogram – meaning, they’re going to look at his blood vessels. This is heading exactly where I thought it was going.
Finally, you see that it is verified that Tona’s friend took the Moderna vaccine, and has pulmonary hypertension.
This confirmed everything that I suspected.
Now – WHY did I suspect that this man had pulmonary hypertension?
FIRST, because I have LONG been following the story of endothelial damage in the capillaries of the lungs by SARS-CoV-2 – more specifically by the spike protein – and resultant pulmonary symptomology (including shortness of breath), from all the way back in March and April of 2020, when Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell realized that the ARDS vent strategy “imported from China” was ALL WRONG. He started looking at high-altitude sickness as a better (though still flawed) model of the disease, and quickly understood the endothelial and pulmonary capillary thrombotic nature of SARS-COV-2 infections.
As you can see, by the middle of 2020, the DISEASE was already well understood in terms of being a provoker of coagulopathy and the sequelae of that.
It was this coagulopathy, that was causing shortness of breath.
And THAT leads to the SECOND reason I suspected pulmonary hypertension. Something I had seen HERE, actually, in various postings on our site. Thank you to all posters here, who brought this information.
But THIS information was not about the disease. This was about the VACCINE.
Please listen to the video below – it will not only explain what is happening – it will assure you of this good doctor’s credibility.
Canadian doctor warns the worst is ‘yet to come’ from blood clotting damage linked to COVID-19 shots
There is also a LARGER video which includes the above video – but it ALSO includes additional information – priceless information – about how Chinese crypto-kinetic warfare is used as part of “reality shaping” to support Chinese sociobiological warfare. See if you can arrive independently at the same understanding, and explain it to me in the comments. You will need to listen to the longer video to see it.
Everything Dr. Hoffe says is – sadly – bad news for “yours truly”, but it MASSIVELY confirms my “hunch” that COVID took at least a DECADE off my life.
This is just a gut-level assessment of the damage to my health, but everything that I’ve seen in my medical test data seems to confirm it. My respiratory, pulmonary, cardiac, vascular, and immune functions are all noticeably impaired after COVID. I do not know if I have pulmonary hypertension, but I suspect that if I do NOT have it, it is only because I have very successfully prevented systemic hypertension. My blood pressure is low, and I have kept it low, thanks to magnesium.
This is part of the reason I have been so adamantly opposed to vaccinating our troops, and regard that action as TREASONOUS. The only people who are helped by medical turnover of our military are the communists – both foreign and domestic.
But let’s not talk about me. Let’s not talk about the US Military.
Let’s talk about Tonawanda’s friend.
The fact that he had the Moderna vaccine is – in my opinion – very important.
Why?
This gets into the observed and known differences between the vaccines, which I have watched VERY CAREFULLY from the very beginning. I very CLOSELY watched the Phase One trials for both Pfizer and Moderna.
The Moderna vaccine was NOTORIOUS for causing symptoms VERY similar to the disease, including fever, exhaustion, headaches, muscular and kidney aches. Worse than that, the Moderna systemic effects were extremely common in the trial group.
If I had to describe my “non-taker” impression of the Moderna shot like a “gourmet” might, it would be like the Shingrix shingles vaccine first shot, only more systemic like the second shot.
The symptoms Ben describes are VERY MUCH like COVID-19 itself.
The Pfizer vaccine – surprisingly – did not have strong observable and immediate effects like Moderna. The incidence of anything more than a bit of local swelling was almost non-existent in the Phase One trial group.
The Pfizer vaccine moved up near the top of my “I might take this one” list.
Thus, it was very surprising that LATER, lots of problems with the Pfizer “clot shot” came into view, as the vaccine was being delivered to people. To some extent, I believe that the NUMBERS of many side effects simply don’t appear in trials, but THAT is not the whole story. I am now convinced that Pfizer is led by incredibly dishonest people, and that they very likely gamed the trials to hide problems.
And very ironically, there is some SCIENCE to back that up. The GAMING begins with the vaccine itself.
What’s interesting there, is that Pfizer’s data on biological distribution of their vaccine in test animals – which we had to get from the Japanese government – not only explained the nature and biodistribution of side effects seen in vaccine recipients – it explained the SHEDDING of VACCINE to others in close contact with the recipient.
This was, IMO, phenomenal detective work by the people who got that data. The Pfizer vaccine’s array of issues was due to the PERSISTENCE and SLOW RELEASE of the vaccine – as well as the obvious LIPID MOBILITY of the LIPID NANOPARTICLES. It took DAYS for the vaccine to release most of the mRNA into cells. The vaccine had plenty of time to move around in bodily lipids. It even had time to be EXCRETED in bodily lipids.
But NOW, I can ALSO use this same explanation for the difference between Pfizer and Moderna in the trials.
Pfizer basically created what is essentially a slow-release vaccine without telling people it was slow-release. VERY beneficial in trials – no?
Moderna’s vaccine also uses lipid nanoparticles, BUT their vaccine clearly deploys FASTER into cells. There is significant overlap, nonetheless, in cardiovascular deployment, as Dr. Hoffe notes. Moderna is likewise distributing throughout the body, and producing systemic vascular endothelium-centered effects much like COVID itself does, but Moderna produces symptoms FASTER than Pfizer. The vaccine effects of Moderna are thus much more noticeable – in some ways like the new shingles vaccine, which is a recombinant antigen vaccine, not an mRNA vaccine, and does NOT employ time-delaying lipid encapsulation technology.
Shingrix tends to produce rapid LOCAL symptoms on the first shot, and systemic symptoms on the booster, exactly as we might expect for two fundamentally different immune reactions (naive locally generated to injected antigen on shot 1, and immune secondary cytokine reaction to same on shot 2).
SO – back to Tona’s friend. He got MODERNA. Moderna SHOWS that it produces symptoms similar to COVID. Just ask Ben Stein. We have covered these “whole spike protein” vaccines.
Dr. Hoffe encountered his results using the MODERNA vaccine.
Dr. Hoffe – at the time of the video – had 9 out of roughly 900 Moderna-receiving patients who were significantly (medically) damaged by the vaccine – and that did not count the 62% of ALL patients (estimated from a smaller sample) who showed signs of microscopic clotting.
Of those 9 patients clinically damaged by the vaccine, SIX of them are described as having “reduced effort tolerance” indicative of pulmonary hypertension. That is exactly what I have from COVID itself. I’m just lucky that my prior health was SO GOOD – far better than most others my age, particularly with my set of comorbidities like “former smoker” – that I was simply “knocked back” to somewhat below normal levels of health for my age.
Others may choose not to believe that Tonawanda’s friend was a victim of side effects of the Moderna vaccine, but in my opinion it is IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss this possibility. In fact, I believe that this case is an exemplary fulfillment of Dr. Hoffe’s warning.
In my opinion, mRNA vaccines are a fundamentally flawed approach, relative to a carefully metered and controlled ANTIGEN vaccine. mRNA vaccines have a “sexy” mechanism, but the whole concept is SCIENCE-CENTERED – not PATIENT-CENTERED.
Science-centered vaccines are a perfect fit for BRUTAL Stalinist socialized medicine, which treats people coldly and unsympathetically.
And THAT is why the Faucist conspirators and Bidenazis are deploying it.
What would Obama do, if nobody could stop him?
THIS is Obamacare – the REALITY. Brutal, corrupt, industrialized medicine.
Ironically – so ironically – profit-centered and capitalist to the core – only the negotiation with the corrupt capitalists is run by Soviet-style bureaucrats. An interesting mix of communism and fascism.
Fauci and Pfizer have painted themselves into a bit of a corner.
I now believe that they “played a charade” on boosters – that boosters were their intent all along.
I think this WHOLE scam was very intentional.
But it gets far, far worse. I think I see that they have an agenda much bigger than the COVID scam.
And I think I see what that agenda is.
This is very hard to see, but I think that maybe some other people are going to be able to see it, so I’m throwing this out there in hope that those people MIGHT see this.
Let’s go progressively backwards in time.
The LATEST outrage is the Project Veritas revelation – in the words of Pfizer’s own scientists – which really shows you how utterly AMORAL or even IMMORAL the management of Pfizer really is.
Please watch this if you have not already.
H/T Sundance, Deplorable Patriot, and many others.
The big point that you need to get out of this, is that the management of Pfizer is NOT interested in doing the best thing for people. EVERYTHING that you have seen from them – the hiding of the vaccine migration data – the ripping off of countries – the manipulation of FDA against competitor J+J – it’s all confirmed by what Pfizer’s own scientists say.
And to top that all off, these scientists ADMIT what we all knew, and always knew – that natural disease-conferred immunity is SUPERIOR to vaccine immunity.
Likewise, if anybody around here has been as SHOCKED as I am, about how badly ISRAEL is now treating EVERYBODY – Jews, Arabs, whatever – with their draconian mandates and “Vaczi” passports – well, maybe it’s not so much of a surprise.
What a bunch of play-acting. THE DRAMA – IT BURNS.
The HYPOCRISY is meant to DISTRACT from the MESSAGE OF COMPLIANCE that SELLS PRODUCT.
Do you see how the propaganda works here? They think we’re stupid. No. We’re just as wise as the MAGA husband who comes home and finds the wife ISRAEL in bed with A DRUG REP.
OY VEY.
But it gets worse.
This earlier video, which has also been discussed both here and at CTH, has a VERY important point that takes a while to sink in.
Again, please watch this if you have not already.
Or maybe not.
[ NOTE – YouTube video REMOVED – old URL: https://youtu.be/ZwR7natWqLk ]
The biggest point is the final one, which the good doctor starts setting up at 10:00, and which he really gets down to at about 11:00 – that the COVID vaccines are actually SETTING UP BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS.
Yes.
I want you to read that again.
It appears that the jabs are making people MORE susceptible to the evolving virus.
This makes TONS of sense from an evolutionary perspective – which is why I have to laugh at all my liberal non-scientist friends who hate God, SWEAR that they believe in evolution, but would never believe what I’m about to tell you.
As you know from my prior discussion of viral evolution…..
OK – we’re going to have some fun here – but stick with me, and you could learn A LOT. Cue the music! Borrowed from Wheatie! Previous posts helped put both the SPIKE PROTEIN DISEASE and the SPIKE PROTEIN VACCINE into deep perspective. We were seeing that the SOLUTION was a significant part of the …
…..one of the best ways to look at a virus and one or more hosts, is to see how they all negotiate to a state of equilibrium, which then appears (because it IS) evidence of DESIGN. The design is just at a near-mathematical level – like a program that adapts and installs itself – rather than a cruder model that requires ridiculous microscopic interventions at every possible juncture.
Things work out for the benefit of LIFE, because we live in a PRO-LIFE universe. But the question is exactly HOW that works out. It may not be as SIMPLE in some ways as you think it might be – or conversely it may be SIMPLER.
We’re only humans, and we have a lot to learn.
And we could learn a LOT from space-time distributed, parallel-processed intelligence, a.k.a. LIFE.
Just like all our latest vaccine tech is bad mimicry of natural technology invented at least 70 million years ago (read the article – it’s fascinating), so our latest attempts to immunize ourselves are not even that.
These vaccines, which use our “next tech” but not our “best tech”, are corrupted by human GREED and DUPLICITY. Bluntly, Fauci, Pfizer and Moderna SCAMMED President Trump. They had a terrible motivation to push LITERAL “bleeding edge” vaccines, instead of more obvious and safer vaccines. That motivation was not to solve their phony crisis – it was to usher in gene therapies by using the same technology as a kind of false hero in a pandemic, riding on Trump’s coattails.
They needed “real science” to SHUT THE FUCK UP, while their FAKE SCIENCE cured their FAKE PANDEMIC with a FAKE HERO.
Dr. Nathan Thompson, in the video above, discovered that the vaccines are – at least in some fraction of people – LOWERING general immunity – and this appears from all data to be to everything EXCEPT a single VIRAL VARIANT which is about to SHIFT to a NEW VARIANT. And we now know that even THAT limited immunity wanes rather quickly.
But we knew that. We knew that ALL ALONG.
Go back in time, before Fauci LIED and said that everything we knew was wrong.
We KNEW that you don’t make vaccines to colds – and that you barely make them to the flu. We knew that coronaviruses were problematic. We knew that vaccines to them are plagued with failure, in some cases caused by phenomena like ENHANCEMENT, where the vaccines make catching the disease EASIER or WORSE.
We knew what these viruses are like. We knew what they were like DECADES AGO. And yet, the disgusting MEDIA played us into a state of credulity, where even expert scientists with the most basic and well-grounded knowledge from over a century of virology were not allowed to state the obvious, if it contradicted our rotten, lying CDC.
Something is VERY wrong there.
Stop and think about it.
They are pushing a vaccine that reduces immunity to everything EXCEPT the VERY specific thing they vaccinated you for – which disappears. So the net effect is to make things worse in all possible ways.
Reducing overall immunity is exactly what Trump WARNED US ABOUT.
The cure can’t be worse than the disease.
BUT IT IS.
And I am going to argue that they knew this ALL ALONG.
Take a look at these screen shots.
If you have ANY kind of modern primary care physician, then you get these reports at least once a year, from the lab tests that your doctor orders.
RIGHT? Am I right?
You can actually compare THESE EXACT NUMBERS – not the CD4 and CD8 cells, which are specialized, and you probably don’t get tested for, unless you have AIDS or another immunosuppressive disease – but everything else will show up on YOUR lab results. Sometimes they say “Granulocytes” and sometimes they say “Neutrophils”, etc., but you can look at the “normal” ranges and match things up very nicely.
You can compare YOUR immune results with the ones in the video. But that’s not my point.
YOU KNOW PFIZER WAS DOING – OR COULD EASILY HAVE DONE – BASIC LABS ON THEIR TEST SUBJECTS.
They had to do the basics – right? Maybe not the people in the trials that everybody was watching – maybe they “overlooked the basic tests” very “accidentally” or by some rule – but somewhere, somehow – there is no way that Pfizer didn’t run the most BASIC immune function tests – THAT WE ALL GET – on at least some test subjects – and discover exactly what we are discovering now.
They had to know what was happening, and what this meant.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If you have a virus, largely created by your friend in NIH, named Fauci, and his friends Baric and Daszak, and their friend Shi in China, and you have a vaccine for it that ONLY CREATES VERY SPECIFIC ANTIBODIES that your friend Fauci focuses on like a hypnotist, but otherwise the vaccines lower immunity and cause disease in general, and this virus changes itself quickly enough that boosters are continuously needed, or maybe only to the point where the vaccine harms immunity enough that the virus doesn’t HAVE to change……
Are you seeing what is happening here?
THE GENERAL LOWERING OF IMMUNITY IS KEY.
This is what counteracts ANY “good” that Fauci focuses on.
These vaccines are the ultimate damned heroin.
COVID vaccines are not heroic. They’re HEROIN.
Let me explain this again, in comparison to NATURAL IMMUNITY.
Natural immunity is the result of EVOLUTION – so it’s SMART. It knows from adaptive experience that a RIFLE SHOT at what just hit you will do no good – but a BLAST from a SHOTGUN will hit the bug the NEXT TIME IT COMES BACK DIFFERENT.
That is why the broad-based but complex immunity conferred by the DISEASE is BETTER than “just a few antibodies specific to yesterday’s villain.”
Nature KNOWS BETTER (by now) than to try to hit the shape-shifter where it was last standing.
Fauci doesn’t know better.
OR DOES HE?
I think he DOES know better.
And I think that Rand Paul, who is VERY SMART, is scaring Fauci because Fauci knows Rand is onto him.
I am no longer thinking these people are stupid.
I think they are very smart.
I think they are RINGERS.
I think they’re up to something.
Making money to continue their program is part of it, but not ALL of it.
They have a goal – the goal is NOT for our benefit.
I believe that these things are components of their agenda.
lower human immunity to disease AND to genetic modification
implement gene therapy as a gateway to genetic modification of humans
increase government’s power to complete medical control of humans
change humanity in a Fabian way – create some socialist human ideal
And THAT takes me back to something Cthulhu said, which has stuck with me.
Fauci was up to something VERY similar with AIDS. He wanted a vaccine desperately. He didn’t want to treat AIDS, but eventually he HAD TO – and when he finally did, it was remdesivir all over again.
And what I’ve come to realize, is that IF there had been a “working” vaccine for HIV / AIDS that worked anything like these terrible coronavirus vaccines, that vaccine would have LOWERED HUMAN IMMUNITY in the same dubious strategy – as the “prevention” for a disease that lowers immunity.
Do you see how WRONG and WEIRD that is?
You know – something is just “not right” with all this.
I’m not taking this vaccine. And I sure as hell hope YOU aren’t taking it either.
*And One Study Showing How Much of a SCAM Fauci’s Beloved Remdesivir Actually Was
The old wisdom of science and medicine, from when I was a kid, has never been disproved. Stated simply:
Disease-conferred immunity in the recovered is always superior to any form of vaccination.
This is why, when we were kids, most scientists and doctors were “unimpressed” by the idea of moving to vaccines for the three main childhood diseases, which diseases themselves provide LIFELONG IMMUNITY against three illnesses that are MUCH ROUGHER on adults.
Why go to a lesser immunity? The diseases are mild in children. The outcomes are excellent. The immunity is SOLID.
Now you can push around the edges of this generality, and find examples where individuals DON’T get good immunity from a “first case” of a disease, and catch it again, whereas some other person gets life-long immunity from a vaccine. Nonetheless, the generality holds at the statistical level, and has always held, because it is LOGICAL.
The whole point of vaccination is to provoke a SUFFICIENT DEFENSE by a LESSER ASSAULT than the disease being prevented.
Thus, for the generality of the old wisdom to be violated, logic, math, and basic biology have to be overturned.
Which is not hard with Democrat minds.
Democrats want to believe things that are politically expedient but simply untrue. I wish I could say the same accusation cannot be leveled against our side, but I can’t. Nevertheless, I find that I can gently correct our side with actual scientific logic, whereas the other side demands “authority”, which they instantly deny to any person or organization that disagrees with them. It’s a solid defense, but it’s not a REAL defense.
In any case, communism is “politics as religion”, and thus it can lead to articles of hope and faith that are held in violation of common sense and widely agreed simple facts – even the most basic science that can be proven at home by anybody.
Thus, the much more solid and honest wisdom of 1960s and 1970s medicine and science began to disappear as the Soviets and Maoists began chipping away at it. By now, it’s in real trouble.
With the COVID hoax, I pretty much thought science was done for. Surprisingly, in the wake of the hoax’s general failure to convince EVERYBODY that up is down and vice versa, we are seeing more and more of the sheepish scientists and doctors who initially went along with things, turning around and disagreeing – although very gently – with the COVID madness.
I would like to show you SIX important points that are now known from scientific studies. You will not see the Bidenistas and Bidenazis trumpeting any of these.
What these points do, is basically show why we don’t need COVID vaccines, nor a particular bad drug called remdesivir.
Indeed, in my opinion, all of these things call into question the entire COVID response, and appear to make it some kind of scam – likely by the World Economic Forum.
I believe that the scam is for global population control, the latter meaning both control of people and control of reproduction.
I’ll explain that at the end, but a bit along the way, too.
PS – thanks to Wheatie for the above image, to RF121 for the link to 4 of these papers, and to Wheatie again for information about the Rockefeller Foundation censoring “misinformation” through Red Jen and Actor Vivek.
Six Points, To The Point
1 – Disease-conferred immunity appears to be 6.72 TIMES as strong as immunity from the COVID vaccines
2 – mRNA vaccines cause spike protein to begin circulating in the bloodstream almost immediately
3 – The antibodies raised by COVID vaccines show pre-existing “memory” immunity to COVID and the vaccines
4 – 99% of those infected by C19 show fast, specific, and effective (“robust”) antibody response
5 – For 2-shot vaccines, shot 1 needlessly elicits memory antibodies, but shot 2 dangerously elicits prompt antibodies
6 – Remdesivir does NOT work against COVID, but it does lengthen time in the hospital
OK, people. Let me break down THOSE items with fuller descriptions.
Six Points, Explained
1 – Disease-conferred immunity appears to be 6.72 TIMES as strong as immunity from the COVID vaccines
Yeah, gotta love those insignificant digits. SEVEN WILL DO – roughly.
This is from an Israeli study that looked at all the people getting infected right now. You will recall that almost all Israelis are vaccinated, yet all of a sudden, people are getting it again – which means that most of them have to be (and in fact WERE) vaccinated.
It turns out that, among the people who are getting COVID in Israel right now, are a few people who had it already – but VERY few of them. If you do the numbers, then it’s clear that catching the disease provides better protection than the vaccine. This is hardly unexpected – like I said – this was old school predictable knowledge back in the 1960s and 1970s.
Stated differently: “Catch a cold one year, you probably won’t catch it again next year, or the year after.”
COMMON. WISDOM.
The number may be a quibble – earlier estimates were actually HIGHER than a factor of 7. So this is a conservative estimate.
But let me repeat what I said. This is exactly what we expect from colds and flu bugs. EXACTLY.
Bottom line, they tried to take something that we already knew, and repackage it as something new and scary. Now, it’s easy to see that this was all about keeping and gaining power over us.
2 – mRNA vaccines cause spike protein to begin circulating in the bloodstream almost immediately
This is actually one of FOUR papers cited in a frontline doctor organizational email, which was then explained in the now-famous video by Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi.
If you have NOT seen this video, you should watch it. If you have seen it, then what you will be reading here (the next 4 points) is what he’s talking about, but related more directly to each of the 4 papers.
The email that describes the 4 papers will be included as an appendix. It describes the significance of the 4 papers, but I am restating that significance in my own terms, here, from my own perspective.
In my opinion, this first point shows exactly why the mRNA vaccines are so problematic, and were never a good idea. Not only is there a ton of vaccine migration PROVEN by the Pfizer leaked documents – there is massive spike protein circulation in the bloodstream. This spike protein activity circulating throughout the body is clearly the cause of all the problems associated with the vaccine.
In my opinion, it’s not a mistake. I believe the manipulated purpose of the vaccines was in fact incremental population reduction by flushing very early pregnancies on a huge but statistically significant scale.
3 – The antibodies raised by COVID vaccines show pre-existing “memory” immunity to COVID and the vaccines
This is a SMOKING GUN. What this means is that all the health authorities LIED to us about a lack of pre-existing immunity. The vaccines are immunizing people to something they are already somewhat or even completely immune to.
Read that again. “Asymptomatic cases” = “basically already almost completely immune”.
Remember early in 2020, when a lone, old, distinguished professor of immunology in Europe dared to publish online a STATEMENT (no way could he get it into a journal) that only pre-existing immunity could explain what we were seeing clinically with COVID-19, and his letter was then censored everywhere?
He is proven COMPLETELY RIGHT in this paper.
Now that we can carefully study new infections with COVID-19, it turns out that people are responding to the disease as “something they’ve seen before”. Yes – it’s THAT similar to the other weak beta coronaviruses.
As many have said, the disease was not actually novel. It was JUST NOVEL ENOUGH. Just novel enough, thanks to gain of function, to win the race for the seasonal best-seller. It’s like a new paperback romance that breaks no new ground as either literature or love-porn, but simply puts tiny tweaks on something everybody has seen before.
Fifty Shades of Nonfluenza.
I repeat. This was a WEAPONIZED COLD – a “new” cold – and THEY KNEW IT.
This was an ECONOMIC ASSAULT on the world. And likely by the World Economic Forum.
Which incidentally sponsored Event 201.
You FUCKERS.
4 – 99% of those infected by C19 show fast, specific, and effective (“robust”) antibody response
The point here was that EVERYBODY who gets COVID-19 – including those who barely have any symptoms or NONE AT ALL – get excellent antibody response – and they SHOW IT. The antibodies may go away, leaving the strong and effective MEMORY antibodies on standby, but the system is soon primed and ready to go.
Which then raises the question – in combination with the prior points…..
Wouldn’t most healthy people just want to get the DISEASE instead of the vaccine? They get better immunity, proven, even if they have ZERO symptoms.
We were SNOOKERED.
This goes back to something that the Fake News media and Fake Medicine CDC hid from us.
When antibody tests first became available, there was an apparent hesitation by authorities (particularly in blue states) to release results. HOWEVER, there were several “blooper” releases of information from hospitals and doctors – at least one of which was forced into disavowing their own prior statement.
What they were finding was double-digit numbers of people who already had antibodies to COVID-19. At that point, the antibody tests were SUPPOSED TO BE unique for COVID-19, and NOT for the prior beta coronaviruses. But yet, they showed antibodies for 30% of people or HIGHER. Later, authorities (including CDC) badmouthed the antibody tests as being flawed because they were picking up antibodies to “other coronaviruses”.
NOW it is completely possible to see what they were trying not to admit. Between prior exposure to both COVID-19 itself and strains of the other 4 weak beta coronaviruses, people were ALREADY IMMUNE.
OLD ANTIBODIES WORKED ON COVID-19.
You see what I’m saying? They would rather falsely “admit” that the tests were “not working”, than to truly admit that the tests worked TOO WELL, and most of us were already immune to COVID-19 to varying degrees. Why? Because that would eliminate the FEAR.
They reframed the PROTECTIVE cross-strain immunity as a test problem, rather than a natural immunity blessing.
It was all about the election. It was all about government control.
It was all a LIE and a HOAX.
5 – For 2-shot vaccines, shot 1 needlessly elicits memory antibodies, but shot 2 dangerously elicits prompt antibodies
This part is actually rather interesting. This is a point that Dr. Bhakdi makes late in his video. The first vaccine shot is NEEDLESS but HARMLESS. Well – more or less. Most people are actually IMMUNE TO THE VACCINE.
Yeah, I want you to read that again.
They can reframe reality – I WILL REFRAME IT BACK.
When you inject somebody with a needless vaccine to which they are already immune, the people simply have an immune response to the assault. Yeah, you can call it a booster, or whatever, but the point is that you have caused the immune memory to replay an old tape and pump out antibodies that work IN GENERAL on your new COVID strain. Vaccine. Whatever.
But the second injection, coming shortly thereafter, is potentially WORSE than NEEDLESS. With two injections, the first kicks up fresh antibodies to spike protein. The second infects YOUR cells and makes them a target of those antibodies.
This is why we saw all those people DIE after their second injection.
THEY. DID. NOT. NEED. THAT. SECOND. INJECTION.
Yeah, this will be a good fight in science – AND the courtroom.
Frankly, I think there need to be lawsuits here, for anybody who would have had a normal contraindication to a second shot, which IMO should have been ALL diabetics, cardiovascular patients, etc. In fact, many of those folks should not have gotten a first shot, because IMO the people that COVID didn’t kill in spring of 2020 were mostly immune, INCLUDING diabetics.
They didn’t need the vaccine. And the vaccine – especially the second shot – killed them.
And hey! If it had been ok to criticize vaccines earlier on social media and not get kicked off, we might have discovered this earlier, and saved a few lives! And dollars!
But no, we live in a fully Orwellian world, where Polish pink diaper that censors people telling the truth about vaccines gets AWARDS for protecting free speech.
6 – Remdesivir does NOT work against COVID, but it does lengthen time in the hospital
This is just “sweet revenge” as Ted Nugent called it. KARMA.
Now I have to admit that I was just as fooled as Trump on this. Fauci – what a scammer.
I saw in the very earliest results that remdesivir was WORSE than not working – it was removing people’s kidneys faster than COVID was. AYE-YI-YI. Bad stuff.
And yet Fauci had the BRASS ASS to go on national television and call remdesivir the “GOLD STANDARD” after that performance. Sheesh! Trust me – Trump saw it, too. This was CLASSIC “you have to show them”.
Admittedly, to some extent, this was “fighting the fear”, and you can see why the POTUS has to take part. But who was generating the fear?
Yeah. Much easier to see the controlling characteristics of the hoax NOW.
Anyway, scientifically, the problem is, there is no point in giving people an antiviral like remdesivir AFTER the virus has already created devastation. You have to deliver the antiviral EARLY – exactly like Dr. Zelenko realized very early on.
Doesn’t matter what KIND of an antiviral – even a piss-poor one, or an atypical one, like hydroxychloroquine, is going to WORK if it gets there EARLY. Late – it simply doesn’t matter.
Now the thing is, remdesivir has to be INJECTED. It could only be used in a HOSPITAL setting – or at least, so they said. I disagreed. People inject stuff in SUBWAYS. Let’s get SMART here.
Well, as a CHUMP HONEST SCIENTIST, my thought was, why not simply administer remdesivir early, by injection, at a lower and safer dose, on an outpatient basis, upon diagnosis? In the doctor’s office, or at a specialist. Nothing worse than a blood draw. Same time that people are being given hydroxychloroquine, or regeneron. It would actually WORK then.
WELL, you see, this paper does more than just prove that remdesivir doesn’t work. I proves WHY they never did the logical thing with it.
Administer it early and effectively, and you don’t SELL AS MUCH. Administer it late and desperately, and you sell a TON of it. And it’s expensive as HELL.
Oh. My. God. I was such a chump. I assumed they would do the right thing if they knew what that was.
The pharmaceutical industry, at this point, is CRAVEN. THEY JUST SELL PRODUCT.
Y’all remember how Fauci bullshitted Trump about remdesivir – how he lied about moving the goal posts? Helps if you know the full story about it, but here’s new evidence that the shit’s actually harmful.
In my opinion, it is now time to call this crap out.
This is one of the most needless vaccines ever – one of the worst outcomes for a vaccine ever – no matter which one – and it is BECAUSE COVID-19 is fundamentally a case where there should not BE a vaccine for most people.
This is a case that was KNOWN not to be very amenable to a vaccine. It was only by a FEAR PSYCHOLOGY OPERATION that we were scammed into accepting the idea that we needed a really badly performing COLD VACCINE.
It’s a MONEYMAKER for industry – their PAWN MOTIVE – and a CONTROL AGENT for various levels of government – their PAWN MOTIVE. Ultimately, it’s about a global effort to gain control – most likely being mediated through the World Economic Forum, since almost all the guilty parties are either “partners” like Google/Alphabet or “organizations” like the Rockefeller Foundation.
And THAT is where we find the really basic motivation for the COVID hoax – as a PLATFORM of human control.
Once I realized that Bill Gates created Windows not as an operating system, but as a PLATFORM to change human behavior into a path he created, I realized the power of creating PLATFORMS. It’s a GOD THING.
You see, the mandatory vaccine platform is basically “The Island” where the entire planet is “The Island”. The people in control are liars, they can inject you with whatever they want, and they then have power of life and death over you, because they lie with impunity.
To start with, I believe the globalist scum are introducing a kind of limited, very incremental contraceptive.
TL;DR – you MUST listen to a short podcast of a scientist revealing the latest research on the spike protein vaccines. The VACCINE ITSELF (not just the spike protein – the mRNA vaccine itself) is persistent and is not only concentrating in ovaries – THE VACCINE ITSELF IS EXCRETED – e.g., in breast milk. Meaning …
“When the people have any power to object to a socialist solution, a deniable 5% fait accompli is always more desirable to socialists than a negotiated 50% solution, because they can always negotiate on the remaining 95%.” -Wolf Moon When I first heard about a case of a miscarriage by a pregnant doctor, due to …
Using Principles of Protein Equivalence and Analogy as Predictive Tools for Coronavirus Understanding Surely you’ve heard of the BROWN RECLUSE SPIDER. The brown recluse is related to several other recluses, and a couple of other families of spiders, that all have a similar venom – a protein called sphingomyelinase D. This is an enzyme that …
Now – if you followed that patent history work that Dr. David “Bowtie” Martin did on the coronavirus and vaccines, then you realize that they’ve been aware of the spike protein for TWENTY YEARS. Its CONTRACEPTIVE activities had to have been known – likely from before understanding of the spike protein per se, when coronaviruses were just viruses which caused potentially contraceptive symptoms in some patients.
This is a no-brainer, people. We have been manipulated.
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Appendix: The Letter
Letter to Physicians: Four New Scientific Discoveries Regarding the Safety and Efficacy of COVID-19 Vaccines
SCIENTISTS CONCLUDE THE BENEFIT OF COVID-19 VACCINATION IS “HIGHLY DOUBTFUL” BUT VACCINE INJURY IS “WELL SUBSTANTIATED”
Doctors for Covid Ethics has sent the following letter to tens of thousands of doctors in Europe, summarising four recent scientific findings critical to the COVID-19 vaccination program. The letter explains each finding as it relates to the biology of COVID-19 vaccines, including interactions with the immune system.
Taken together, the letter warns that these new pieces of evidence force all physicians administering COVID-19 vaccines to re-evaluate the merits of COVID-19 vaccination, in the interests of their own ethical standing, and their patients’ safety and health.
A video explanation of the underlying immunology by Professor Sucharit Bhakdi MD is here, with German subtitles here.
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Dear Colleague:
Four recent scientific discoveries are herewith brought to your urgent attention. They alter the entire landscape of the COVID-19 pandemic, and they force us to reassess the merits of vaccination against SARS-CoV-2.
Summary
Rapid and efficient memory-type immune responses occur reliably in virtually all unvaccinated individuals who are exposed to SARS-CoV-2. The effectiveness of further boosting the immune response through vaccination is therefore highly doubtful. Vaccination may instead aggravate disease through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE).
Discovery 1: SARS-CoV-2 spike protein circulates shortly after vaccination
SARS-CoV-2 proteins were measured in longitudinal plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine [1]. With 11 of the 13, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was detected in the blood within only one day after the first vaccine injection.
Significance. Spike protein molecules were produced within cells that are in contact with the bloodstream—mostly endothelial cells—and released into the circulation. This means that a) the immune system will attack those endothelial cells, and b) the circulating spike protein molecules will activate thrombocytes. Both effects will promote blood clotting. This explains the many clotting-related adverse events—stroke, heart attack, venous thrombosis—that are being reported after vaccination.
Discovery 2: Rapid, memory-type antibody response after vaccination
Several studies have demonstrated that circulating SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG and IgA antibodies became detectable within 1-2 weeks after application of mRNA vaccines [1–3].
Significance. Rapid production of IgG and IgA always indicates a secondary, memory-type response that is elicited through re-stimulation of pre-existing immune cells. Primary immune responses to novel antigens take longer to evolve and initially produce IgM antibodies, which is then followed by the isotype switch to IgG and IgA.
A certain amount of IgM was indeed detected alongside IgG and IgA in some studies [1,4]. Importantly, however, IgG rose faster than IgM [4], which confirms that the early IgG response was indeed of the memory type. This memory response indicates pre-existing, cross-reactive immunity due to previous infection with ordinary respiratory human coronavirus strains. The delayed IgM response most likely represents a primary response to novel epitopes which are specific to SARS-CoV-2.
Memory-type responses have also been documented with respect to T-cell-mediated immunity [5–7]. Overall, these findings indicate that our immune system efficiently recognizes SARS-CoV-2 as “known” even on first contact. Severe cases of the disease thus cannot be ascribed to lacking immunity. Instead, severe cases might very well be caused or aggravated by pre-existing immunity through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE, see below).
Serum antibody profiles were reported for 203 individuals following SARS-CoV-2 infection [8]. 202 (>99%) of the participants exhibited SARS-CoV-2 specific antibodies. With 193 individuals (95%), these antibodies prevented SARS-CoV-2 infection in cell culture and also inhibited binding of the spike protein to the ACE2 receptor. Furthermore, CD8+ T-cell responses specific for SARS-CoV-2 were clear and quantifiable in 95 of 106 (90%) HLA-A2-positive individuals.
Significance. This study confirms the above assertion that the immune response to initial contact with SARS-CoV-2 is of the memory type. In addition, it shows that this reaction occurs with almost all individuals, and particularly also with those who experience no manifest clinical symptoms.
The goal of the vaccination is to stimulate production of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, but we now know that such antibodies can and will be rapidly generated by everyone upon the slightest viral challenge, even without vaccination.
Severe lung infections always take many days to develop, which means that if the antibodies generated by the memory response are needed, they will arrive on time. Therefore, vaccination is unlikely to provide significant benefit with respect to the prevention of severe lung infection.
Discovery 4: Rapid increase of spike protein antibodies after the second injection of mRNA vaccines
IgG and IgA antibody titres were monitored before vaccination and after the first and the second injection of mRNA vaccines [3]. Antibody titres rose with some delay after the first injection, then plateaued, but rose again very shortly after the second injection.
Significance. Even though the antibody response to the first injection is of the memory type, the small time lag after the injection may mitigate adverse reactions, because the abundance of spike protein on the cells in the blood vessel walls and in other tissues may have already passed its peak when the antibodies arrive.
The situation changes dramatically with the second injection. Then the spikes are produced and protrude into the bloodstream that is already swarming with both reactive lymphocytes and antibodies. The antibodies will cause the complement system [9,10] and also neutrophil granulocytes to attack the spike protein-bearing cells. The possible consequences of all-out self-attack by the immune system are frightening.
Antibody-dependent enhancement of disease
As described, memory-type immune responses ensure the rapid rise of antibody titres after initial exposure to SARS-CoV-2, rendering the benefit of vaccine-induced antibody response exceedingly doubtful. Regardless, we should not assume that high antibody titres against SARS-CoV-2 will always improve the clinical outcome. With several virus families—in particular with Dengue virus, but also with coronaviruses—antibodies can aggravate rather than mitigate disease. This occurs because certain cells of the immune system take up antibody-tagged microbes and destroy them. If a virus particle to which antibodies have bound is taken up by such a cell, but it then manages to evade destruction, it may instead start to multiply within the cell. Overall, the antibody will then have enhanced the replication of the virus. Clinically, this antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) can cause a hyperinflammatory response (a “cytokine storm”) that will amplify the damage to the lungs, liver and other organs of our body.
Attempts to develop vaccines to the original SARS virus, which is closely related to SARS-CoV-2, repeatedly failed due to ADE. The vaccines did induce antibodies, but when the vaccinated animals were subsequently infected with the virus, they became more ill than the unvaccinated controls (see e.g. [11]). The possibility of ADE was not adequately addressed in the clinical trials on any of the COVID-19 vaccines. It is therefore prudent to avoid the danger of inducing ADE through vaccination and instead rely on proven forms of treatment [12] for dealing with clinically severe COVID-19 disease.
Conclusion
The collective findings discussed above clearly show that the benefits of vaccination are highly doubtful. In contrast, the harm the vaccines do is very well substantiated, with more than 15.000 vaccination-associated deaths now documented in the EU drug adverse events database (EudraVigilance), and over 7.000 more deaths within the UK and the US [13].
ALL PHYSICIANS MUST RECONSIDER THE ETHICAL ISSUES SURROUNDING COVID-19 VACCINATION.
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Notes
1. Ogata, A.F. et al. (2021) Circulating SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients. Clin. Infect. Dis. -:x-x
2. Amanat, F. et al. (2021) SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination induces functionally diverse antibodies to NTD, RBD and S2. Cell -:x-x
3. Wisnewski, A.V. et al. (2021) Human IgG and IgA responses to COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. PLoS One 16:e0249499
4. Qu, J. et al. (2020) Profile of Immunoglobulin G and IgM Antibodies Against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Clin. Infect. Dis. 71:2255-2258
5. Le Bert, N. et al. (2020) SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls. Nature 584:457-462
6. Grifoni, A. et al. (2020) Targets of T Cell Responses to SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus in Humans with COVID-19 Disease and Unexposed Individuals. Cell 181:1489-1501.e15
7. Gallais, F. et al. (2021) Intrafamilial Exposure to SARS-CoV-2 Associated with Cellular Immune Response without Seroconversion. Emerg. Infect. Dis. 27:x-x
8. Nielsen, S.S. et al. (2021) SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust adaptive immune responses regardless of disease severity. EBioMedicine 68:103410
9. Magro, C.M. et al. (2020) Docked severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 proteins within the cutaneous and subcutaneous microvasculature and their role in the pathogenesis of severe coronavirus disease 2019. Hum. Pathol. 106:106-116
10. Magro, C.M. et al. (2021) Severe COVID-19: A multifaceted viral vasculopathy syndrome. Annals of diagnostic pathology 50:151645
11. Tseng, C. et al. (2012) Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus. PLoS One 7:e35421
12. McCullough, P.A. et al. (2021) Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection. Am. J. Med. 134:16-22
13. Johnson, L. (2021) Official Vaccine Injury and Fatality Data: EU, UK and US.
One of the really big shockers for me has been the relationship of the tech giants to the bat coronavirus researchers. What the heck is up with that?
Why did Zuckerberg and Chan (after COVID “struck”) fund Baric, who worked with “the bat woman” and Wuhan? It smells every bit like a “book deal” – an influence pay-off after the fact. This would lead me to believe that Zuck and Chan and Baric actually go back FURTHER, in ways that have not appeared yet.
Why did Google fund Daszak and a group that then funded Wuhan? This actually goes back. And then, Daszak trying to cover up HIS role in the cover-up of the Wuhan Institute of Virology connection – what’s up with THAT?
I don’t want to get into all that stuff too much, but I want to leave you some great links to show you this is REAL – this is not BS. The “fake news snopesing complex” is all over this, trying to hide it, but the word is OUT.
TECH and BAT RESEARCH are THICK.
References on tech / bat research monetary links
Here is the Zuckerberg-Chan “book deal payoff” to Baric’s lab.
Fauci reveals that Mark Zuckerberg offered him “resources and money” – this at the same time Zuck was using cash to interfere in the 2020 election on behalf of Democrats.
Now, I had just heard about all of these monetary connections now being discovered, and thought that any relationship between the tech giants and these virus creeps had to be connected to the FAKE ELECTION PLOT.
BUT – as I was perusing the internet COVID literature, I encountered two scientific papers that made me realize something.
These tech tyrants may have had ANOTHER motive. A DEEPER and MORE PERSONAL motive.
Wanting to live forever – or at least LONGER.
And it gets BIGGER – as in all of society – as in FITNESS – as in EUGENICS.
Here is the part of this paper that set off the alarms. I will make BOLD or underline the most important parts:
BAT MICROBES CAN SHED LIGHT ON DISEASE, IMMUNITY, AND LONGEVITY
Bats and their microbes are increasingly recognized as important components of zoonotic disease cycles (37, 38). A few studies have identified potentially pathogenic members of the excreted bat microbiome such as Bartonella spp. (39, 40) and Leptospira spp. (41). Bats are also known or suspected to be the reservoir of several viruses that are lethal to humans, such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Ebola, and rabies viruses (42,–44), as well as of Plasmodium parasites closely related to those in rodents that are used as models to study malaria (45). Genomic insights have generated plausible explanations for how bats may have evolved to harbor such deadly microbes (e.g., reference 46), but in spite of abundant evidence that the microbiome interfaces directly with the host immune system (47, 48), there has not yet been an integrative study addressing whether microbial symbionts contribute to bats’ innate ability to act as pathogen reservoirs. As an additional axis of variation, bats which have flexible roosting habits can be found in close proximity to humans and may potentially swap microbes with humans and their companion animals (49). Bats may transfer microbes to livestock when they exist in close proximity (e.g., pigs consuming partially eaten fruits dropped by fruit bats [50]) or use the same habitats (e.g., horses coming into contact with bat droppings in pastures [51]). Studying bat microbiomes would therefore have obvious public health implications and could help to explain the epidemiology of emerging infectious diseases.
Similar avenues of research can also consider what impact, if any, the host microbiome has on susceptibility of bats to white nose syndrome (WNS), a frequently fatal cutaneous infection that has reduced hibernating bat populations by up to 90% in North America (52). Because not all individuals are killed by the infection, there may be selection on the skin microbiomes of surviving individuals to become enriched with antifungal bacteria. Indeed, one study discovered that in WNS-positive populations, the skin microbiome of bats was enriched with Rhodococcus and Pseudomonas spp., which are known to have antifungal activity (53). Additional studies in this area can answer the questions of how exactly these bacteria inhibit the growth of the causative agent of WNS and what enrichment of the microbiome with these bacteria might mean for the long-term survival of affected host populations.
Bat microbiomes can be used more generally to understand the links between the microbiome and the evolution of other phenomena of interest, such as immunity and longevity. To date, studies addressing the link between host aging and the microbiome in humans and lab animals have uncovered direct links between microbial metabolic products and life span of the host (54). Bats represent an exciting system in which to test for links between the microbiome and aging because they are exceptionally long-lived for a mammal of their size (55, 56). Mice are conventional model mammals, but the commonly used BALB/c mouse strain has a life span of about a year and half, making studies of longevity in these animals rather short-lived (57). Bats of comparable mass can achieve life spans of up to 40 years, and many are philopatric to particular roosts, making repeat sampling of individuals throughout their lifetimes possible (58, 59). Because these animals’ microbiomes can be sampled nonlethally, they are inherently attractive for such studies (36). However, it is worth noting that these animals are especially sensitive to disturbance during hibernation, so experimental designs should minimize unintended disturbance of roosts, particularly in areas where white nose syndrome has decimated bat populations (60). It may also be possible to keep bats in captive colonies in order to sample them throughout successive years of their lives. Recent evidence suggests that metabolites produced by gut microbes in bats might offset the oxidative damages incurred during active flight, resulting in downstream impacts on aging (61). However, many questions still remain. By what mechanism does the microbiome help to extend life span, and is this pattern consistent across mammals? How does interindividual variation impact the relationships between longevity and microbiome community structure? We believe that studies of bat microbiomes can help to answer these important questions and more.Go to:
FUTURE DIRECTIONS
Bats represent an untapped resource for understanding microbiome evolution in mammals. Because of their exceptional diversity, longevity, and ecological importance, we believe that studies of their microbial symbionts will reveal exciting new roles for microbes in driving host evolution and fitness and may help us to better understand the dynamics of emerging zoonotic pathogens. We provide applications of bat microbiome research in the hopes that more researchers will realize the potential that this system has to offer. Multi-omics approaches can be used to parse apart the contributions of host genome, metagenome, and microbial metabolites to the processes described above, and as the costs of these methods continue to decrease, such studies will only become more feasible. The results of studying bat microbiomes using these approaches will undeniably advance the fields of host-microbe interactions, comparative physiology, and public health.
This then led me to a paper specifically about bats and longevity.
This paper is an absolute GOLD MINE of authoritative scientific optimism about life extension through bats, tying in IMMUNITY and INFLAMMATION. I cannot just pick out some part to highlight – the WHOLE THING is evidence of what people are thinking.
What I have done is grabbed the IMAGES which are the most quickly informing. Not all of them – just some of them. Plus a few selections of text which are equally useful.
Abstract
For centuries, people believed that bats possessed sinister powers. Bats are thought to be ancestral hosts to many deadly viruses affecting humans including Ebola, rabies, and most recently SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. However, bats themselves tolerate these viruses without ill effects. The second power that bats have is their longevity. Bats live much longer than similar-sized land mammals. Here we review how bats’ ability to control inflammation may be contributing to their longevity. The underlying mechanisms may hold clues to developing new treatments for age-related diseases. Now may be the time to use science to exploit the secret powers of bats for human benefit.
Figure 1 Bats Live Longer Than Similar-Sized Land Mammals
(A) Major lineages of bats.
(B) Relationship between lifespan and body mass in mammals. Bats are indicated by red circles; all other species of mammals are indicated by black circles. The lifespan and body mass data are from Healy et al. (2014).
Treatments Based on Bat Strategies
Bats have evolved multiple mechanisms to suppress inflammation, in particular by dampening nucleic acid sensing pathways. A number of pharmacological interventions targeting nucleic acid sensing pathways had already been developed. Historically, the focus has been on developing activators of these pathways to serve as antiviral or anticancer drugs (reviewed in Vanpouille-Box et al., 2019). However, with the realization that inflammation contributes to a wide range of diseases from autoimmunity to age-related conditions, the interest has shifted to developing antagonists of nucleic acid sensors (Sheridan, 2019). This proved to be a challenging task due to high level of redundancy within nucleic acid sensing pathways and the danger of increasing vulnerability to infections. Here, the information obtained from the studies of bats can assist in drug discovery (Table 1 ).
Future Perspectives
In summary, besides serving as a source of deadly diseases and harboring viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2, which caused the current pandemics, bats have a lot to offer humanity by illuminating the pathways to develop novel therapeutics to treat age-related conditions and promote longevity. Already studies of the altered innate immune responses in bats point to several classes of small molecules, some of which have links to aging. However, we can only see the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding how bats deal with inflammation, and clearly more studies are warranted. This is also true for other hallmarks of aging, which are still minimally explored. In addition to finding small molecules targeting specific pathways that can be tested in humans, it will be of interest to engineer specific bat alterations in mice and determine whether this leads to enhanced lifespan and healthspan.
Bats have evolved skewed, and ultimately successful, strategies to experience longer and healthier lives, even if this is a secondary outcome of selection for responses to viral infections and/or the dramatic range of metabolic states that accompany periods of flight and torpor. Humans in the last century have created a lifestyle that has gone bats; we live in high densities and (many of us) travel extensively, enhancing exposure to and spread of pathogens. By embracing “batty” strategies to deal with the challenges that our new lifestyle presents, we may be able to solve what look to be the two biggest medical challenges of the 21st century: the rise of viral pandemics and the ever-increasing prevalence of chronic diseases that all share aging as their biggest risk factor.Go to:
Acknowledgments
This perspective was conceived when the authors were quarantined together for potential exposure to COVID-19. Research in authors’ laboratories is supported by grants from the National Institutes of Health, United States.
Where does this go?
OK? It really helps to skim through that SECOND article, because one can ALMOST see the stuff that would make these TECH TITANS DROOL.
Centuries more of life if we just got PARTIAL success in bringing over some “bat tech” to human life.
And I didn’t really dig here, either. This was just what was floating on TOP of the “bat longevity” literature.
Think how much “good” Zuckerberg, Brin, Gates and these others could do, in a few more centuries, if they just had the elixir vitae that bats seem to promise!
Those who don’t think this is a possible motivation, can look at my previous discussion of “life extension” in another article about the more “fictional” science of adrenochrome, wherein I discussed WHY it’s possible to sell a complete fiction like adrenochrome the drug to both CUSTOMERS and CRITICS. In that discussion, the interest of the tech titans in life extension is both mentioned and referenced.
The Truths, Lies, and Disinformation Surrounding a Mythical yet Very Real Substance There is nothing more intriguing than an enigmatic character who defies political and cultural boundaries to tell great truths, yet mixes in just enough lies, fakery, shiny objects, red herrings, exaggerations and omissions to make himself or herself economically viable solely on their …
In the process of this scientific and social examination of the mythical “adrenochrome”, I looked at the very real concept of “young blood”.
There is a REAL market for any REAL or merely RUMORED rejuvenation.
People will even inject themselves with a deadly POISON to look younger.
Yes. “Beautox” is real. And it “REALLY” works – to make people LOOK younger.
Oh, Mark Zuckerberg – you are looking MAAAAHRRRRVELOUS!
Now, I don’t know WHO or HOW – China or CIA or Obama or DARPA – but I suspect that LIFE EXTENSION is the HOBBY WITH BENEFITS of the elite. And BATS was a natural attractor.
So I suspect that this INFLUENCER – bat research as the path to the elixir vitae – was introduced into the RIGHT CIRCLES by people who understood influence. And HERE WE ARE.
W
PS:
How will China and their puppets study the success of their bioweapon here in the United States, and its effect on voting?
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We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
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No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid
OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.
Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.
I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!!
I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.
Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.
TheseTruths
I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!
"Durham" is the shiny thing to keep everyone distracted and looking in the wrong place. The real investigation has nothing Durham attached to it. You can debate the Barr strategy later on. I care not. https://t.co/vxmc9lUKqF
SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.
NOW – here is my problem.
Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.
So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.
keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
on The U Tree
I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.
Thanks!
The LancetGateEffect
Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.
This is the article that brought it to my attention:
I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.
Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….
… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….
That was me.
DP, Ginger, and others.
Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go
AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL….. [start of a long comment]
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I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…
HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.
So what say you?
Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?
THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.
We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.
For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.
I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.
In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.
If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.
There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.
Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.
Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.
If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.
So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.
Ivermectin & COVID-19
Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.
I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.
If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.
This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.
The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!
Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.
What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?
“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.
Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:
less vents
more steroids
better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
more oxygen earlier
better testing, all kinds
As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.
Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.
It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.
It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.
The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.
If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.
Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.
On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic
Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:
Dr. Harvey Risch, MD/PhD from the department of epidemiology at Yale responds to the senseless attack and attempt to discredit him for his research on hydroxychloroquine.
If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.
SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.
Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.
A match made in HELL.
Anyway – here is the deal.
We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.
don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation
In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.
By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.
Masks OFF
The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.
“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport.” -Swedish State Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, 7/28/20
This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:
Wake up! I can MEASURE my oxygen hurt by all 3 of my masks, using my pulse oximeter. It's mild, but it's persistent and long. 97 (sleepy) is not 98 (calm) is not 99 (alert), and 93 is where they take you to the hospital.
We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.
I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.
Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.
Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.
I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.
This [(10*Q) + 7]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY where Q = 0 open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
The following is an excerpt from the brief being filed today in Maryland state court in Attkisson v. Rosenstein and others for the government computer intrusions.
Plaintiff Sharyl Attkisson, an award-winning journalist—along with her husband and child—have tried for years to pursue their significant and credible claims of illegal government surveillance, but the U.S. Government has stonewalled them at every turn. Yet, despite the Government’s repeated efforts to obfuscate and delay, the Attkissons detailed in their Complaint:
Expert forensic computer analysis of the Attkissons’ computers, revealing that an unauthorized entity or entities gained remote access to the Attkissons’ computers for a prolonged period, and that one of the pathways by which the intrusions occurred were IP addresses controlled by the U.S. Government.
Confirmation, via testimony, that the U.S. Government controlled the IP addresses identified in the Attkissions’ computers.
The degree to which senior figures in the Department of Justice were concerned about, and took steps to block, Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting, as well as her use of confidential governmental sources;
Many documented instances of abnormal, otherwise unexplained behavior of the Attkissons’ computer systems and devices.
But then it gets interesting…..
Plaintiffs’ investigator has interviewed Ryan White, a Government whistleblower (and named Defendant). During this interview, White made the following significant assertions:
White worked with defendants Sean Bridges (who was then a Secret Service agent) and the FBI’s Shawn Henry in Baltimore and reported directly to defendant Rod Rosenstein.
White and Agent Bridges were ordered to conduct various clandestine operations involving hacking computer systems, servers, emails, and phones.
White and Agent Bridges were directly involved in the illegal surveillance of the Attkissons’ computers and the exfiltration of data.
The rogue order to target the Attkissons came directly from Agent Henry and Rosenstein.
Later, Agent Bridges and another federal agent were convicted of corrupt acts for their involvement in the Government’s notorious Silk Road Task Force, also based in Baltimore, in which corruption by federal agents was uncovered, resulting in the convictions of Bridges and another federal agent.
As far as I can tell, the surveillance of journalists at that point (2009-2012) was coming from Obama and ERIC HOLDER. So if Rosey was working Holder’s game under Obama, this fits in perfectly with everything I know about DOJ intentions and actions during the first 2 years of the Trump White House, when Rosey and Holder’s lieutenant Tashina Gauhar were running the show.
Rosey sure looks like a black hat to me. But I’m listening. If Rosey was an informant, then WHO was he informing under Obama and Mueller, as Mueller was clearly allowing spying on Attkisson, and planting of incriminating documents on her laptop?
But let’s move on, since Rosey’s guilt or innocence may be reflected in any upcoming indictments…..
Trump’s tweet on the getaway is wonderful. Sundance clearly SAVED it, lest it disappear. Or DID IT ALREADY? I cannot find it.
ANYWHO – indictments are very likely coming SOON.
This is worth a listen (in thread). I take it as a tip that there will be some predictable turbulence when indictments hit, and security has already prepared for it. Seatbelts. https://t.co/pUx0Xui5K3pic.twitter.com/0B2ZAGrCBw
Scientifically, this is exactly where I was when Didier Raoult (or Raoult Didier – whatever his name is) published his first “pay dirt” data with demonstrable dose-related antiviral activity in ALL test subjects. His numbers can be off by a factor of 50%, and it’s still huge and can’t be explained away as anything but SOME kind of real effect.
Numbers like these are either massive fraud or pay dirt. And they could be real nuggets. With a solid, known antiviral explanation, it’s almost certainly REAL.
Now – let’s take a look at a country a bit off the commonly argued map. You don’t hear a lot about COVID-19 in Turkey. Here’s why.
The situation isn’t done in Turkey – they are teetering very close to lockdowns. Turkey is trying the same thing as Trump – avoiding lockdowns. A lot of information on how hard that has been, in this article.
Scott Adams found Turkey’s claimed near-100% effectiveness of contact tracing a bit unbelievable, and I have to agree – it’s not easy to either prove or disprove such a claim, but in a country like Turkey, it should be nearly impossible to contact everybody catching the disease.
Who believes Turkey has an extensive testing/tracing network that is making a difference? https://t.co/HMvMWsSekb
NEVERTHELESS, those people who DO get caught by contact tracing ARE very likely to live, if they are getting HCQ as early as possible. See how that works? The more the tracers catch, the more contacts they find, the more contacted contacts are WAITING FOR SYMPTOMS with their HCQ in hand, and the more likely the HCQ is going to work. Clearly, [HCQ + contact tracing] makes sense. BUT here is the deal. People have to TRUST the government behind it.
Not exactly easy in New York.
Moving on, HERE is the biggie. I call it the “LancetGate Effect”.
Yes, that would be THE Steven Hatfill, falsely accused by Mueller in the 2001 anthrax attacks.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
Peter Navarro – THE KILLER – tweeted the article.
Dr. Steven Hatfill's clutch hit. Best take down of anti-Trump Hydroxy Hysteria media this side of @ScottAdamsSays CNN might be killing tens of thousands. https://t.co/b4ThfIaQvG
And then I introduced HIM to something even more shocking.
There was a LancetGate Effect in The United States.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
Now – I’m not going to show you this – you have to dig to find – but in the wake of my comments, Daughn came in for an assist, and we were then both engaged by HCQ opponents. One kept emphasizing that FDA head Hahn, who was in charge when the EUA was rescinded, is a Trump appointee – like this was going to bother me somehow.
NO. TRUTH IS TRUTH.
I thought this was clearly an attempt to generate “Alinsky fears” – specifically POLITICS BEFORE SCIENCE, because it might hurt Trump or Hahn, as a way of shutting me up.
NONSENSE!
Hahn, as I tried to explain, has his own mind. I LIKE THAT. It’s like the way things used to be. I believe that Trump hired him because Hahn is a strong believer in FAST TRACKING new drugs, like Trump is. A believer in TRUMP TIME. Hahn’s opinion on HCQ, wrong as it turns out to be, is secondary. This is WAR, people make mistakes, people die. Generals and Colonels live with this horrible responsibility, and WE SOLDIERS SUPPORT THEM.
BUCK UP, WORLD. We do our best, we trust in God, but we do NOT lie and cover up when we understand error. People have been all over the place on HCQ, but when the chips come in STRONGLY that it works, and even more so that banning it is a PROVABLE mistake, we have to consider CHANGING COURSE.
One way to do that would be to listen to Dr. Zelenko and have a NEW EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for HCQ – this time without Rick Bright’s toxic “hospitals only” poison pill attached.
YES! We can RECOVER from the LancetGate blunder by doing what Zelenko suggests.
BUT WAIT – THERE’S MOAR.
HCQ Insights
One way to make Zelenko’s new EUA actually happen would be to INCLUDE NEW DRUGS – albeit handled DIFFERENTLY from HCQ, as part of the EUA.
I call this the “EUA EUA“.
“Early Use of Antivirals Emergency Use Authorization”
The way this would work is to grant flexibility to doctors WORKING WITH pharmaceutical companies and state governments to try new antivirals early in the disease process upon confirmed diagnosis. HCQ is well-tested, and as the “standard of this EUA”, it becomes the GOLD STANDARD of safety and efficacy for other newer drugs to beat, using whatever delivery tricks and codrugs make these other drugs work best. Those drugs need every advantage we can find for them, just like South Korea (zinc), Didier Rauout (azithromycin), and Zelenko (zinc + azithromycin, very early) found for HCQ.
One of my rationales here is that we can reduce or even remove toxicity from the equation by low-dosing a lot of these drugs, since EARLY use can mean less drug needed for the more toxic ones. In some ways, what I am doing here is learning from sabotage studies of HCQ, which used massive and toxic doses LATE. We are doing the opposite – trying to “help” alternatives to HCQ by giving THEM access to patients at the same time when HCQ works best. Some – maybe even most patients may still opt for HCQ, but others may welcome new drugs like EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, the latter of which may prove to be effective not just late, but early as well.
The point is, get EVERYBODY early, so we remove the incentive to let patients deteriorate, which is now “imposed” on drugs which need desperate patients for “right to try”. The EUA, in essence, would EXPAND right to try to early or even asymptomatic patients – not just patients at death’s door.
The EUA EUA *removes* any incentive to delay treatment, or to bash HCQ, but at the same time, it doesn’t blockade new drugs from access to patients at the time when THEY might be very effective, too, which our current system, weirdly, does.
WIN, WIN, WIN.
#LancetGate had a terrible price! #HCQ bans and discouragements KILL.
I think a new EUA that included both #HCQ *and* other drugs in the pipeline having antiviral actions, FOR EARLY USE (badly needed for antivirals) is the big life-saver, that would get buy-in from Big Pharma. pic.twitter.com/Dt3Fb5NXUZ
This will not only help absolve @US_FDA on the #LancetGate-effect downside of rescinding the prior EUA (by compensating quickly) – it will provide HCQ as an automatic standard to beat with new agents in compassionate horse-races EARLY. Basically moves up "right to try".
The fundamental problem we're ALL facing is what @zev_dr saw first – antivirals need to be early, but we perpetually move risks LATE in treatment (for good reasons). But I believe super-early and *LOW DOSE* may be KEY to next-gen agents AND antiviral therapies, avoiding tox.
I'm very excited about EIDD-2801 and RLF-100, with the latter now in use LATE. Opening up early treatment and letting HCQ be the punching bag old coach standard will breed champions. pic.twitter.com/MWGHYWG8eh
NOW – about HCQ alleged toxicity. Here is an AR-15 of logic to take down trolls.
It’s important to address the cardiac toxicity issue head on, because that “problem” is really a deflection by people who “pretend not to know” how minor the problem really is, ESPECIALLY compared to LIVES SAVED.
This is JUST AS TRUE as it was with MALARIA.
Yup. MAMET PRINCIPLE. And behind that – AUBERGINE’S RAZOR.
Systematic review of cardiac complications attributed to routine hydroxychloroquine use…
From the years 1963-2017:
– Only 50 events of cardiac toxicity (since 1963!) – Total of 12 deaths – Median patient had been taking HCQ daily for 8 YEARShttps://t.co/5hgnw6qccH
Now – here is one reason I think that NON-VACCINATION AND TREATMENT is an important option.
One of the primary reasons to use HCQ instead of a vaccine, is the likelihood that coronavirus vaccines will cause immune overreaction TO infection by the disease, instead of actual protection FROM infection.
This is a nice article which introduces you to Dr. Peter Hotez, vaccine maker, vaccine advocate, but also vaccine truth-teller on immune enhancement. Hotez is somebody very difficult for the MSM to downplay and crush. At least, SO FAR.
Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.
“We just could not generate much interest,” a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.
March 5, 2020, 4:30 AM EST / Updated March 8, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT
There will be more talk about immune enhancement later. Be prepared. It’s a very “sciencey” argument AGAINST mandatory vaccination. It is a much more EFFECTIVE argument than “I don’t trust Bill Gates” – even though the latter is a HUGE motivator for most people.
And now THIS.
Time To Go To WAR Over Hydroxychloroquine
What are we up against?
Something that runs us over if we DON’T put it down.
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You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
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If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Twitter Alternative Twetch
OK – this is weird, but it finally makes sense. This is very geeky, but I think all of you will get it at a high level. It’s the mechanics where it gets tricky.
Remember when Andrew Torba of Gab was talking about social media “on the blockchain” that would be invulnerable to censorship? Torba was really enamored of the idea, even though he never did it – probably for scale reasons.
Back then, I have to admit that I didn’t really understand the concept, but now I do.
The way I stumbled into this is subtle. It’s a story. Here’s the story.
There is a guy I follow on Twitter named “@desantis”. He’s a very interesting mind, like a lot of people I know, but he is in a corner by himself, of the people I happen to know.
Desantis is part of the “crypto geek community”. They’re a strange bunch. In some ways, they’re in love with money, which – for various reasons – I am suspicious of, but which I totally get the DOWNSIDE of.
But crypto geeks don’t love money like misers – they love it like an idea, so they’re actually very unique and pleasant and I like their tribe, even though I’m not really even an honorary member.
Within that tribe, Desantis is a great medicine man, or perhaps the great priest in Jerusalem. The crypto geeks all bow before Desantis, it sometimes seems, yet he’s a bit of a hermit.
Desantis “gets” things at a very high level – that is his game and drive. He does not want to tarry on the details, which can be very hard. Steve, Scott, and Cthulhu here are all people who understand that details are important, and how reality actually happens. Somebody has to sort that shit out. My father was like that, incidentally. I am a detail person, too, but I love it when I get “general”.
Desantis – who calls himself a “generalist” – is almost allergic to details, except when he prepares small examples on what are essentially proofs on the backs of napkins. Of the generalities he gets, many are what “specificists” consider trivial, worthless, or mere byproduct of their work. But some of the things Desantis notices are really quite profound, and some are beautiful. Many are almost hard to put into WORDS. That is just TOO COOL.
Desantis is almost addicted to a kind of glass bead game where you can’t talk about the game too specifically or you spoil it.
Of course, many consider such types of thinkers to be near-crackpots, and they can be very frustrating to understand. However, once I found Desantis on Twitter, I loved the beauty of some of the things he saw, and thus I endeavored to be more like him. He became one of my muses.
NOTE that Desantis was followed by Jack Dorsey. Sometimes they conversed in “Desantis-level-cool-speak”. Yes. I would not be surprised if some Desantis ideas were used, stolen, riffed on, or patented. At the very least, warning of the threat he posed was given to the Cabal.
Anyway, I stopped seeing Desantis ANYWHERE. I assumed that he blocked me for my conservative views about Trump, but when I went looking for his posts – BOOM – it turned out that I was not blocked – he was simply not there. He was GONE.
I dug further. It seemed that Desantis was UNFOLLOWED by Jack because of “Twetch” starting. AH! Maybe THAT is where Desantis went!
Twetch is a weird marriage of blockchain, crypto, and Twitter, that is “on the blockchain” to some extent, so that it can’t be shut down, in the same way that bitcoin cannot be shut down.
Now I’m not going to get into that whole world, but here is the deal. In order to follow Desantis again, I made an account on Twetch, and I could use a friend or two to help me explore it, by posting and (and I hate this part – Black Elk – forgive me) making enough digital money to follow and “tip” the people like Desantis that I went there to follow.
SO – if any of you feel experimental, then please – start here and click away. We can experiment with making followers for free, because I have no money on Twetch.
Muchas gracias!
https://twetch.app/
My homepage:
Note both 2 and from. Lucky me!
That is what I was talking about, and why I took this journey.
NEXT….
OTC HCQ = National Security Requirement
This was posted here. It is a critical read.
Imagine this intelligence coming into a LOYAL CIA, not in sympathy (if not league) with the ChiNazi coronavirus “globalism-forcing” strategy.
I then re-posted it to Twitter (with permission):
Interestingly, this was shortly after I posted the following on a different thread:
Text version:
wolfmoon1776 July 29, 2020 at 11:56
OTC HCQ is a big deal. I would welcome it, despite the fact that RIGHT NOW, for COVID-19 I think it is best taken under a doctor’s prescription and supervision.
So WHY do I want it OTC?
So that supply lines are SOLID and we have enough to treat the whole nation overnight.
Why do we need that much HCQ?
COVID-20 and COVID-21.
WHUUUUT?
CHICOM-DEMOCRAT 4GW BIOWARFARE.
If CCP-DNC releases a NEW coronavirus, we need a general cure to disarm it IMMEDIATELY, without tanking the economy, and HCQ is beyond likely – meaning almost certain – to fulfill that mission.
America needs a PRE-CURE for coronaviruses. HCQ is that drug.
If you are following the vaccine development efforts – many of them – very expensive – using YOUR tax dollars – then even if you LIKE vaccines, you understand perfectly well that vaccine development is SLOW and PAINFUL.
MANY of these vaccines are using VERY SMART “re-usable” “platforms” – meaning that they can be used for lots of different vaccines, without a lot of “foundational” development. This is, in fact, why many of the vaccines started up SO QUICKLY – the developers simply swapped in something NEW – like new DNA, mRNA, or a recombinant protein, instead of “SARS” or “Ebola” or even “flu”.
SO – understand – even with all this massive effort and expense, using “fast” vaccine technology, we are STILL looking at about a year to develop a RISKY vaccine – risky because these vaccines will all be risky for many patients, especially those who HAD the disease, or those who WILL GET IT anyway. Those patients were NOT trialed. The vaccines will NOT be safe for them.
One year? One year, MINIMUM? One year, minimum, if YET ANOTHER disease “gets out” in that weird country where all diseases seem to mysteriously come from, namely CHINA?
Turns out that many of these diseases just happen to be coronaviruses, which just happen to be of huge interest to science right now, with lots of chimeric proteins being made – meaning ARTIFICIAL virus pieces (OH, but they would never put those pieces published in the journals together! NO, NEVER!)
Y’all starting to understand? What I am saying is NOT misinformation. It is simple, horrifying TRUTH.
Scientists in America, China, and everywhere else experiment with Frankenstein versions of these viruses – very specifically, the “arms and legs and body and internal organs” of these viruses. These Frankenstein monster viruses are actually quite simple, because the “organs” inside them are merely the blueprints for the arms, legs, and body. AND – remember this – those very same “blueprints” are USED to generate the arms, legs and body, that are used in these tests.
If you suddenly say “well that’s the whole damn thing”, then yes. Read on.
In other words, vaccine researchers have a “plausible reason” to create both the Frankenstein arms and legs of chimeric viruses, and because they have THAT plausible reason – AND DO USE IT – they also have a plausible reason to create the genetic instructions for the Frankenstein arms and legs and body – AND THEY USE THAT, TOO.
SO – let’s add things up. The scientists have reason to, and in fact do, create ALL THE PIECES needed to construct chimeric (meaning Frankenstein) viruses. The only thing which prevents them from doing it is……….. well, they may have SAID they would not do it.
Y’all starting to get how dangerous this is? And NOW – let me nuke anybody who argues with it.
Even if, for any reason, you said BUT BUT BUT, then I can simply say “China not only CAN get all the different, non-cross-immunity-granting, “novel” coronaviruses that it wants, by taking them from bats…….. THEY ALREADY DID IT.
So – get this – China is sitting on dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands of “novel coronaviruses”, many or most of which don’t grant complete or even significant immunity to the others. And that’s just talking about the ones China let us know about. They could have some bat coronas that are SCARY dangerous that they never told us about.
So – that is the situation.
National security involves RISK MANAGEMENT.
We have a drug, that seems to work, very generally, against coronaviruses. That drug has a strong safety record. It’s called hydroxychloroquine, or HCQ.
If it even POSSIBLY works on another bat coronavirus, avian coronavirus, or synthetic coronavirus, and does so in a timeframe faster than a vaccine can be developed, then HCQ availability becomes a dead simple and unarguable national security objective.
There is only one nation that would NOT want us to prepare for that possibility. That nation is CHINA. The only people who are NOT China who would want us to not prepare for that possibility are ON CHINA’S SIDE.
What this does is makes HCQ a kind of WHEAT/CHAFF SORTER.
Yes. Enemies of the people. Or their “controlled opposition”.
It’s VERY simple to use this wheat/chaff sorter. VERY EASY.
USE IT. And USE IT NOW.
"Air Claire" has just helped me prove that #HCQ OCT is an unarguable NATSEC objective. The "Muh Russia" scam protects CHINA. Why China? Because HCQ can fight ANY corona released by China. Think about it. Aire Claire is protecting CHINA'S EDGE.
I was going to discuss this, but then realized I didn’t have time to put this HUGE subject together.
But then I realized I actually had a PLACEHOLDER.
SO let’s entertain the Stalinist Holderites with the thought of WHAT’S COMING.
Get Wiser Than Solomon On Anna Chapman
John Solomon has a GREAT new book out – FALLOUT – which tracks SPYGATE back to URANIUM ONE.
To get a taste of what was found by John Solomon and Seamus Bruner, there is a GREAT interview of Solomon and Bruner by the Epoch Times.
Many thanks to Jan and the great Epoch Times team for this in-depth interview on Russia scandal and our new book Fallout. Was ‘Russia Collusion’ a Diversion From the Real Scandal?—John Solomon & Seamus Bruner Talk Spygate https://t.co/Gb9LbioRwD
The first 18:10 of the video cover the fact that “Spygate” actually goes back to the BEGINNINGS of the Obama administration, and center around URANIUM ONE. The mind-boggling “negligence” of the Obama administration is on full display.
Negligence. YEAH, RIGHT.
I REPEAT.
I repeat.
Now – there are a LOT of things I can say about this interview – with which I am in 90+% agreement. In particular, I could “go big” on how the authors are either intentionally or subconsciously holding back from the full accusation of REVERSO – that Obama and Hillary weren’t just being LIARS, accusing Trump of “collusion” with Russia. I could say that Obama and Hillary were actually IN LEAGUE with Russia, giving Russia both uranium AND Crimea for a VERY nice price. I could fit the CLINTONS directly into the long chain of events leading from the uranium-spying Rosenbergs and the polonium spy George Koval, to THIS VERY MOMENT, as part of Stalin’s plan to slowly denuclearize the United States.
BRIBES? Or FUNDING FOR THE INFILTRATION?
HOWEVER….
I am going to go smaller.
Staring at 18:10 until 24:32, a very important sub-story comes up, and HOW one interprets it is very important.
The story goes into ANNA CHAPMAN…..
WHOOPS! My bad!
I’m quite the fan of Maria Butina, Putin’s and Hillary’s useful cowgirl gun lover, who was given the “James Wolfe” kid glove treatment by Jussie K. Lie and Robert M. K. Mueller, and then kicked out of America with a velvet boot, as fast as they could hide her from scrutiny. But that’s not Anna Chapman.
THIS is Anna Chapman!
More details, including her relationships to both Skripal and Snowden.
I urge you to listen to the video from 18:10-24:32.
One of the KEY points is that the Anna Chapman spy ring was [allegedly] rolled up because a spy (not Chapman) was getting close to Hillary Clinton, trying to get a job in the State Department, after getting in close with a “friend of Hillary”.
Note that this is EXACTLY what should have happened with TRUMP, if Carter Page was actually a problem. But it DID NOT happen.
Funny, that.
Solomon goes on to explain that this was all explained to him. He was told by Daniel Hoffman, the CIA station chief in Moscow at the time of Anna Chapman and Uranium One, that Russia was just playing games of tainting both sides and ginning up mutual suspicions and turmoil.
That all sounds so nice and good. But yet they all understood this wonderful truth in Hillary’s case, but not in Trump’s case.
Funny, that.
And yet we see that Curtains Comey publicly goes along with this line of thinking, but PRIVATELY keeps the illegal, unjustified, and PHONY special counsel alive, pretending not to KNOW that it should have been CLOSED.
Funny, that.
In my opinion, what Hoffman told Solomon is the GASLIGHTING OF REVERSO.
Whether Hoffman was hiding Russian assistance to Hillary for investigative reasons (meaning, he was following the reverso), or to HELP her (as part of the reverso), is not clear.
The point being – my point – Anna Chapman was USED intentionally to “clean up” Hillary.
In my opinion, these DEMOCRATS and their MEDIA, in COLLUSION with the Russian “taint both sides” PUBLIC strategy, are able to help Russia PRIVATELY and DIFFERENTIALLY support the treasonous Democrats by what appears to be a neutral strategy ON THEIR END.
It’s VERY smart.
In the case of HILLARY, rolling up the spy ring was used to GIVE HILLARY COVER as a patriot – which of course is NOT TRUE. She goes on to give Russia all the American uranium it wants.
In the case of Trump, investigating a phony spy ring was used not to COVER Trump, but to cast suspicion on him. The strategy was made “safe for Russia” by using Western assets. If it fell through, as it did, Russia gets off clean, and Democrats take the hit at a lower level – CORRUPTION, NOT TREASON.
See how that works? Like I say – SMART.
Listen to the video AFTER 24:10. The interviewer, Jan Jekielek, gently tries to get the authors to lean forward on what I might call DISINFORMATION DIFFERENTIAL as a Russian “active measure” to support the treasonous Democrats, but NO BITEY.
Now I don’t know why Solomon can’t or won’t say this. Maybe America is not ready. Maybe he would be “getting out in front of his skis” with that accusation.
Funny – I was once taught to LEAN FORWARD HARD on skis, to keep control at high speed on the really steep stuff.
Hillary and Russia. There’s more to the story. Let’s FIND IT.
You know, it's funny, but those people in that Bundy case kept saying something about HRC, FBI, Russians and uranium. All that stuff is just sitting in records in some building in Oregon. Which I never realized has a LOT of uranium mines. Including some in national forests. https://t.co/DnDtOMghjBpic.twitter.com/36FDL22TLp
This [(Q+7)=24]TH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
For many of you, I can safely predict that this does NOT feel like “good news” to you. For others, it does feel like good news, but perhaps YOU are dreading being positive about vaccines in a movement which is largely skeptical of them.
MY MISSION is to make you ALL welcome this news, because you will FEAR NO TRUTHS.
To do this, I’m going to take you on a LONG JOURNEY to answer one question – Is Wolf going to take THIS VACCINE if it makes it to production?
Are you ready to go? Here is your first BRAVERY KICK. Repeat after me…..
“I shall FEAR NO TRUTHS!”
Are you ready to go? GOOD!
The first thing I noticed is that Seb Gorka – Q DENIER – is using the same GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINE IMAGE that measly Q blogger Wolf Moon uses all the time.
I downloaded this sucker back in APRIL, and used the original web URL in a lot of comments.
JUST SAYIN’. Gorka ain’t GOD. He’s just a small human in MAGA, just like the rest of us. He has to scrape images just like the rest of us.
Feel that FEAR slipping away?
GOOD.
Now – remember – POTUS is ALL-IN on developing a vaccine – and QUICKLY.
JUST SAYIN’.
Don’t fear it. UNDERSTAND IT.
"As one family, we mourn every precious life that's been lost. I pledge in their honor that we will develop a vaccine, and we will defeat the virus." pic.twitter.com/OZJWhL9A9t
— The White House 45 Archived (@WhiteHouse45) July 21, 2020
By the time we are done here, you will be able to OPINE SMARTLY about what POTUS is doing here, no matter what your personal view of vaccines – either for yourself or for others.
Let’s look more deeply at Seb Gorka’s article:
BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Secures 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine from Pfizer
The United States government has secured a $2 billion deal for 100 million doses of a promising experimental Coronavirus vaccine being developed by the U.S.-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer and the German company BioNTech.
The two companies, which are producing the vaccine together, said that the doses will be provided to America if they prove “safe and effective in humans.” The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that as a result of the government’s purchase, the vaccines would come at “no cost” to Americans seeking the vaccine once it’s available.
This is the latest vaccine candidate to be secured for the United States as a result of President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed,” aimed at expediting the possible cure and eventual eradication of the Chinese virus. Other companies developing possible vaccines that have been enlisted by the government include Novavax, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Emergent Biosolutions.
Here are the KEY POINTS you want to remember as we DIG DEEPER…..
deal is for enough doses to use (at least in the short-term) on PART of American populace – NOT ALL – although eventually there will be more than enough (see below)
it’s considered promising according to the TRUMP administration
vaccine is by US and German companies – NOT a Chinese vaccine
the US company is Pfizer – a key identifier along with BioNTech
conditioned on the vaccine being safe and effective IN HUMANS
part of Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed”
goal is CURE and EVENTUAL ERADICATION
staying on message – it’s the CHINESE virus
OTHER vaccines and makers have been enlisted by the government
Novavax
Johnson & Johnson
Moderna
AstraZeneca
Emergent Biosolutions
You will note that there is a LINK – and basically what we have here is RE-REPORTING of CNBC.
Under the agreement, the U.S. will get 100 million doses of the vaccine, if it works, and can acquire 500 million additional doses if needed.
German biotech firm BioNTech and U.S.-based Pfizer are jointly developing the vaccine.
HHS said Americans won’t have to pay for it.
Now – here are MY additional key points:
Pfizer and BioNTech are actually running FOUR different vaccines – any of them that wins may be the one that “succeeds” in this deal
A 30K participant trial of the/a Pfizer vaccine is expected to begin later this month (July 2020)
The most advanced candidate is called BNT162b1
Candidate BNT162b1 has been demonstrated to produce neutralizing antibodies in clinical trials
The article EXPLAINS the logic behind the Trump-Pence (Pence is my addition here) “Operation Warp Speed“
multiple companies pushed to increase the odds of a WINNER, SOONER
goal is ENOUGH VACCINE FOR ALL AMERICANS [not saying mandatory – just saying]
logistics assumes success and builds supply chains and SCALE while researching
note that this is kinda how the Manhattan Project worked
this is just the latest vaccine effort to get a federal green light
Novavax vaccine was similarly green-lighted at 1.6 billion dollars
Johnson & Johnson green-lighted at 0.456 billon
Moderna green-lighted at 0.486 billion
Astra-Zeneca / Oxford green-lighted at 1.2 billion
Emergent Biosolutions green-lighted at 0.628 billion
The explanation of “Operation Warp Speed” is useful, so you don’t have to be AFRAID of talking about it and being mocked by Democrats, should you use the somewhat corny name. It’s like many of Trump’s simple but extremely sound ideas. The names are almost like gatekeepers that turn away mockers, reflexive haters, and other people of “bad faith”, but those of good faith are invited in to get in early on the winning team.
Yeah, I smell PENCE all over that. A genius hire, to do exactly this strategy.
Here is Azar talking:
“This is what’s really unprecedented with President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. We are literally making the commercial scale vaccine now as we’re going through the clinical trial,” Azar told CNBC. “We’re doing that at risk, using the full power of the U.S. government and our financial resources to do that. No one’s ever done this before.”
Vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and others have been ramping up manufacturing capacity before their vaccine’s have been proven to be safe and effective and before receiving regulatory approval. That will help shave months off the time it takes to ultimately distribute a vaccine across the globe.
“We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, said in a statement. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.”
Developing a safe and effective vaccine is seen as crucial to curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 14.9 million people around the world and killed at least 617,200 people, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
While the companies and government race to deliver a successful vaccine, regulators and company officials have assured the public and members of Congress that they will not sacrifice on safety. All that’s at risk, they say, is money.
A very interesting concept – risk the money on any failed vaccines as far as premature commercialization, but END the “threat” sooner and win big on rebounding the ECONOMY.
THAT RIGHT THERE sounds like classic Trumpian “manage the downside to win” thinking.
NOW – let’s dig DEEPER STILL.
Why is Trump throwing the BIGGEST CHUNK OF CASH YET at this particular vaccine?
In my opinion, it is because this vaccine is showing itself to be SAFE AND EFFECTIVE already, despite being one of the “newer” technologies.
To see this, we need to go to a couple of LINKS in the last article.
First, some prior recent reporting by CNBC – clearly enough time (3 weeks) for the $2B to show up.
Pfizer shares jumped after it released positive results from its closely watched early stage human trial on a coronavirus vaccine.
The trial evaluated 45 people. Each participant received 10, 30 or 100 microgram doses of the vaccine or a placebo.
Pfizer said the vaccine was generally well tolerated, though the experimental vaccine also caused fever in some patients, especially for those who were in the 100 microgram group.
Here are my added key points:
ONE of the four candidates produced neutralizing antibodies. YES. Just one of them.
levels of neutralizing antibodies were 1.8 to 2.8 times higher than in recovered COVID-19 patients
after 28 days, all participants at the lower (and safer) 10 and 30 microgram dosages had significant levels of binding antibodies
all four candidates are based on mRNA technology
reactions to the vaccine were milder than, e.g., the Moderna vaccine (*my* reading)
reactions were primarily FEVER and injection site pain, with fever being more common in the 100 microgram group
MOST patients reported injection site pain, mild to moderate, but it was SEVERE in one case at 100 micrograms
looks to me that they will shoot for 10 or 30 micrograms, depending upon durability of immunity granted by those doses
100 million doses could be ready by the end of 2020
1.2 BILLION doses could be ready by the end of 2021
Next, we follow two PRESS RELEASES from Pfizer and BioNTech:
The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines, each of which represents a unique combination of messenger RNA (mRNA) format and target antigen. On July 1st, Pfizer and BioNTech announced preliminary data from BNT162b1, the most advanced of the four mRNA formulations. The early data demonstrates that BNT162b1 is able to produce neutralizing antibodies in humans at or above the levels observed in the plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19, and this was shown at relatively low dose levels. Local reactions and systemic events were dose-dependent, generally mild to moderate, and transient. No serious adverse events were reported. On July 20th, the companies announced early positive update from German Phase 1/2 COVID-19 vaccine study, including first T Cell response data.
SO – we have an mRNA vaccine which appears to be – compared to other vaccines we’ve been hearing about – relatively safe and effective. NO SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS.
But YES – this vaccine is the NEW and somewhat unproven DNA/RNA vaccine tech.
So how do we JUDGE IT?
In my opinion, we first need to take a look at ALL the leading COVID-19 vaccines.
Vaccine Horse Race
The horrible China-Puppet WHO does have one redeeming feature – BUREAUCRATS KEEPING TRACK OF THINGS.
This URL is always a good place to go, to see where vaccines stand. Yeah, China and Bill Gates probably get to track the downloads, and maybe even infect the PDF file, but whatever.
That’s what I’m here for – to turn that nasty PDF into nice, safe, images.
Let’s look at the FIRST TWO PAGES of the document they produce, keeping track of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.
What can we GLEAN from this stuff?
We can’t FULLY understand this yet, but we WILL in a few minutes. For now, we can mostly understand the THIRD COLUMN – who is behind which particular vaccine.
The vaccines are ORDERED in terms of how advanced the RESEARCH is – in particular, how far along the CLINICAL TRIALS are. The TOP TWO DOZEN entries (#1 to #24) are all the vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS. #1 is the most advanced – which right now means PHASE 3 trials. The least advanced (#24) will only be in initial PHASE 1 trials.
So GUESS WHO IS AT THE TOP? (Look in the 3rd column for the developer…)
CHYYYNNAA!
Yeah, boy howdy, that sure is a surprise! The top three entries are all CHINA!
*eyeroll*
Then, number FOUR is the Astra-Zeneca / Oxford vaccine.
Then, numbers FIVE and SIX are CHYYYNNAA again!!! Think of that – the top 6 vaccines in terms of advancement, and CHYYYNNAA has FIVE of them. I guess that’s what happens when YOU RELEASE THE VIRUS.
SICK.
The next two are Western – Moderna and Inovio. Both of these have gotten a lot of press, not all of it good.
Moderna (#7) made the news b/c it came out with glowing statements about trials, but the fine print uncovered in the next few days was lots of serious side effects. What followed was a journalist pile-on, with lots of talk that Moderna has no experience, is stiff-arming the feds on safety, and is hyping more than fixing stuff. Very “Obama”.
Inovio (#8) is a DNA vaccine, similar to the mRNA vaccines. Look in the FIRST COLUMN under “Platform” to see the type. You don’t have to understand the platform quite yet. The Inovio vaccine was one of the first COVID-19 vaccines to get a lot of public attention, and is backed by Bill Gates and CEPI, as are MANY of the others. Gates is behind most of the horses in the race, so that he CANNOT LOSE.
Ask WHY.
Numbers 9, 10 and 11 are also DNA vaccines, with #9 being a Japanese effort.
Then come two more standard vaccines, Indian (#12) and Chinese (#13), leading off on the SECOND image / second page above.
Finally, at #14, we get to Novavax, which is the vaccine I like for myself, provided that it’s ever proven safe and effective (and useful) in people who’ve already had the disease. WHY I like it for ME, however, requires some explanation, but not yet – let’s keep looking at the list.
Skip over #15, the Turtlehead vaccine (made you curious, didn’t I?), which is also a vaccine that I am PERSONALLY potentially favorable toward. Seriously, it’s just a KY company (Kentucky Bioprocessing), and KY is in USA. But it is also a technology I favor as likely to be SAFE.
FINALLY, at #16, we get to the Pfizer vaccine. This is the one in question. Am I going to take it?
Not going to answer that yet!
Of the remaining entries, I’m liking FOR MYSELF numbers 18, 19, and 20, which include the GSK effort (#18) and the University of Queensland vaccine (#20), both in the news occasionally.
Of the last 4 entries, 21-24, thereby rounding out the TWO DOZEN vaccines in CLINICAL TRIALS, #21 is the Imperial College vaccine often in the news, and #23 is the CHINESE ARMY (PLA) entry – an mRNA vaccine, which IMO is likely to be STOLEN TECH.
So – HOW DO WE JUDGE?
WELL – before we can really judge, it helps if we understand certain basics of vaccines.
Let me provide you with something VERY AWESOME that I found online.
Vaccine Evolution
Vaccines, like everything else in Creation, are EVOLVING INTELLIGENTLY.
We just have to make sure that they’re EVOLVING HONESTLY.
That’s where it gets tricky. But first, we have to understand the basics of how vaccines WORK – hopefully WITH the immune system, INTELLIGENTLY AND HONESTLY.
Vaccines as we now know them are designed to trigger the immune system into THINKING we have a disease, when we don’t really have it, so that when we would otherwise get the disease, we are already prepared for it, and fight it off. This is a very smart idea which has TRACKED human civilization.
Smallpox is the disease which taught us about vaccination. Before the term “vaccination” was generalized to its current state of “inducing immunity to a disease by prior and safer activation the immune system”, “vaccination” meant inoculation (intentional INFECTION) with cowpox or a relative, as a DEFENSE against smallpox. Vaccination was EXCLUSIVELY a smallpox therapy. Very interestingly, the OLDER, more dangerous practice of infection with heat-and-time-weakened smallpox virus was KNOWN by empirical observation, and dated back to at least the Middle Ages in China. That practice was called “variolation”.
Thus, cowpox cross-immunity to protect against smallpox was a LUCKY BREAK. Most diseases don’t HAVE a nearly harmless cowpox version of “whatever” to protect you from real “whatever”.
Thus, what “vaccines” are doing NOW is much more akin to the OLDER and MORE DANGEROUS practice of variolation – a form of inoculation – intentional infection with the very “something” you are afraid of – preferably something which has been tinkered with in some way so that it no longer kills you.
Inoculation is POWERFUL because it’s more generalizable, but it’s RISKY because it makes US responsible for SAFETY.
You know – if we were more honest, we’d call vaccines something else, like “variolines”, or maybe “inoculums”, or – OH YEAH – inoculations.
I know this is actually very simple, but I want to CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE on “vaccines”.
I want you to be not just INFORMED, which can be DISINFORMED, but to have real and deep UNDERSTANDING, which CANNOT be disinformed as easily.
Read the last three sentences of the above Wikipedia entry for “Variolation” to understand “what cannot be said in science” right now.
The method is no longer used today. It was replaced by smallpox vaccine, a safer alternative. This in turn led to the development of the many vaccines now available against other diseases.
See the trick? It’s a kind of “circle of changed meanings”, so beloved by lying Democrats. The potentially dangerous and generally iffy WOLF/SHEEPDOG of “inoculation” borrowed the sheepskin of the “safer alternative” vaccination to claim false but reassuring safety for what is really the tricky business that could be called “generalized variolation”.
We got LUCKY on smallpox, and now pretend that the same luck-magic can be extended to all diseases. HA! GET REAL, SCIENCE.
The reality is that the term “vaccines” is historical euphemism.
Read the history of smallpox to GROUND YOURSELF in REALITY.
Well, vaccines are now a much BROADER science. They are, basically, “tinkering with the immune system to do stuff” – and that includes STERILIZING PEOPLE by induction of auto-immune attack on their reproductive platform. One person’s nasty side effect is another person’s depopulationist panacea.
Have you ever considered WHY we’re not supposed to think about vaccine side-effects? It’s because “SIDE” depends upon your perspective.
“WHAT WE DO NOT EVEN THINK POSSIBLE, WE CANNOT SUSPECT.”
Yes, THAT is how big vaccines are, now. We can actually immunize people against PARENTHOOD.
SO – if you don’t understand vaccines, you are at the mercy of those who do. Be GLAD that the Hitler regime didn’t have sterilization vaccines.
Be CONCERNED that the CHINAZIS have them RIGHT NOW. They could sterilize ALL of the Uighurs and just move the HAN SUPREMACISTS right in.
Y’all see what I’m sayin’?
Why, with all the Uighur men gone, they could be sterilizing all the women – or all the men – right now – with just a SHOT OR TWO. Wait a minute. Somebody reported “medical experimentation” in those Uighur reeducation camps. Hmmmmmmm.
But let’s leave THAT for another time. My point is this – vaccines are a very BROAD topic. For now, let’s stick to “current ways to potentially fight coronaviruses by prior immunization”.
In that regard, I recently found a wonderful blog post which explains the different TYPES of vaccines being considered for COVID-19. This is an excellent article.
Classic and new technologies vying to be the first COVID-19 vaccine
Jeffrey Smoot Information Scientist, CAS Posted June 11, 2020
I could not have put together such a GREAT and SHORT summary of the different vaccine techs if I had spent years doing it.
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE! It’s actually a VERY fast read!
Now let’s look at the critical TABLE 1, which I’m quoting “vertically” and editorializing somewhat, based on a “monster” metaphor.
The table entries are unmolested. The entry titles reflect – somewhat humorously – my relative levels of trust/distrust of the technologies involved, and their state of readiness for “prime time” – expressed as effectiveness against “theoretical” pathogens.
Table 1. Vaccine Classification
Header Definitions (How to Read Table)
Type — What basic kind of vaccine
Active Component — may be abbreviation or acronym – GOOGLE IT!!!
Advantage — why you might trust this platform
Disadvantage — why you might NOT trust this platform
Vaccine Example — actual uses in existing vaccines you may or may not like
Bitten By Chocula
Type — Live, attenuated
Active Component — Pathogen capable of replication
Advantage — Strong and long-lasting immune response, usually lifetime protection
Disadvantage — Risk of disease
Vaccine Example — Tuberculosis, MMR, smallpox, chickenpox, yellow fever
Carry A Wooden Stake
Type — Inactivated (or killed)
Active Component — Pathogen chemical or heat treated to prevent replication
Advantage — No risk of disease
Disadvantage — Lesser immune response; booster shots may be needed
Vaccine Example — Flu, hepatitis A, polio, rabies
Silver Bullets
Type — Subunit (protein, polysaccharide, conjugate, toxoid)
Disadvantage — [none mentioned – surely there are some – W]
Vaccine Example — Hepatitis B, cervical cancer, malaria
Bitten By Frankenberry
Type — Recombinant vector vaccine
Active Component — Non-pathogenic virus or bacteria as carrier of immunogen of interest
Advantage — Reusable for diverse antigens; no risk of disease
Disadvantage — Pre-existing or development of immunity to vector
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
Chocula Goes Back In Time And Marries Your Mom
Type — DNA vaccine
Active Component — Plasmid or other expression vector
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Lack of data
Vaccine Example — Veterinary medicine (canine melanoma, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus of fish, equine West Nile virus)
Chocula Commits Identity Theft On Your Mom
Type — mRNA vaccine
Active Component — RNA that encodes a disease-specific pathogen protein
Advantage — Fast to produce; no risk of disease; reusable technology
Disadvantage — Effectiveness and side effects are unknown
Vaccine Example — No approved vaccine available
This is a great chart because it orders things from “oldest” to newest in terms of general technology.
First live virus (weakened smallpox, cowpox, vaccinia), then dead virus, then specific fragments, then fake Frankenstein live virus, and finally the new fake “like a virus” DNA and RNA mucking around science.
READ THE LINK – each type is explained.
Let me review the different PLATFORMS (column 1) in the pages of the WHO document. These correspond to most of the types in the linked blog post.
Inactivated
Non-Replicating Viral Vector
Protein Subunit
RNA
DNA
VLP
These methods can basically be broken into two different sets of two categories each:
OLD-SCHOOL versus NEW-SCHOOL
IMMUNOGEN versus INSTRUCTIONS
Old-school methods are “old biology” – no recombinants, no gene sequencing, no plasmids, no fancy tricks.
New-school methods use our advanced knowledge of biochemistry to MAKE STUFF at the molecular and biochemical level, either before injection or after injection.
Immunogen methods inject the stuff that triggers the immune reaction.
Instruction methods inject DNA or RNA – pretty much like a VIRUS does – maybe even USING a virus, or an artificial virus-like construct – to get those instructions into your cells.
So now let me apply those labels to the platforms, including one that’s missing (live /attenuated).
Live / Attenuated – OLD-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
Inactivated – OLD-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
Non-Replicating Viral Vector – NEW SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
Protein Subunit – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
RNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
DNA – NEW-SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONS
VLP – NEW-SCHOOL IMMUNOGEN
You see? There’s actually a lot of choice.
So – what should you trust?
THAT is for you to decide. I can only tell you what *I* trust. And WHY.
Vaccine Conservatism
I am generally – PERSONALLY – favorable toward vaccines, despite being 100% opposed to mandatory vaccinations. Vaccines ave always been good for me. Even the occasional minor aggravation of very mild arthritis in my injection shoulder is not really enough of a negative for me to skip the flu shot.
Nevertheless, I am careful to note that vaccines give me just as many and just as strong minor, negative side effects as any drug – and MOST drugs have minor side-effects that I can observe and report.
The new shingles vaccine, in my case, had stronger side effects than almost ANY drug I had ever taken. Nevertheless, a BARGAIN next to the HORROR OF SHINGLES.
So I’m no fool – vaccines are REAL medicine – with real side effects. AND – if you’ve gotten the new shingles vaccine, then you know that vaccines are getting STRONGER so they can work STRONGER and LONGER.
HOWEVER…..
The entire CHINA VIRUS psy-op and election interference program has done nothing to make me any less suspicious of vaccines. Indeed, it has made me MORE suspicious, if not an actual skeptic. Too many agendas. Too many lies. Too many “whoops”. Too many cute abuses of science. Too many media hit jobs. Too much Bill Gates near any and all of the above.
And CHYYYNNAA through and through the whole nasty affair. China, the home of CCP ChiNazis who love to BLAME THE VICTIM.
And which CHINAZIS could easily be STERILIZING UIGHURS with STOLEN GSK vaccine technology RIGHT NOW.
Suspicious? HELL YES!
On the bright side, I would not have been made aware of mankind’s current capabilities for eugenocide, had I not been “awakened” on vaccines, so I consider my new suspicions a stroke of good luck for any and all groups which HAVE BEEN, ARE BEING, or WILL EVER BE slated for GENOCIDE.
Uighurs! WATCH YOUR SIX!!!
One of the reasons Epstein was schmoozing all the big brains in science was – I am convinced – keeping track of the infinite bad possibilities that led to “Never Again”. SO *** DING DING DING *** I sure hope THAT particular baby didn’t get thrown out with the dirty pedophile’s bathwater. How the “this time we won’t fail” time-bomb of sterilization vaccines could have proceeded to where it is without being disarmed tells me somebody was fooling somebody. TSK-TSK. Shame on EVERYBODY.
ANYWAY – back to topic.
I think you could call me a VACCINE CONSERVATIVE.
I am not necessarily averse to any class of vaccine as I categorize them, or as others categorize them. I could take a new-school vaccine. I could take an old-school vaccine. I might take ANY of them, including the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, provided the following:
vaccine has been found safe and effective to TRUMP’S satisfaction
vaccine has been TESTED and found safe and effective for people who have already had either COVID-19 or any other weak coronavirus
vanishingly small number of cases of super-serious side effects
basic technology has no critical theoretical weaknesses
proven to NOT result in immune enhancement phenomenon
basic technology must show LIFETIME SAFETY in individuals and their children, or be able to rule out dangers – INCLUDING STERILITY in both generations – to my satisfaction
The LAST requirement is the one which, right now, makes several of the “new-school” technologies very likely NO-GO ZONES for THE WOLF. Much SHADE is thus cast on DNA, RNA, and viral vector types.
And as for the Pfizer vaccine (mRNA), I am much likelier to pick a DIFFERENT vaccine, particularly a NEW-SCHOOL recombinant protein subunit, neo-classical vaccine – much like the shingles vaccine I just took. Novavax is one of those vaccines. If it can be proven NOT to produce immune enhancement, AND it can be proven to be safe for symptomatic COVID-19 recoverees with lung damage, then I’m very likely to take it.
DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines, and adenovirus vectors are ALL too new and unproven for me to trust. Some of these – maybe all of them – are relying on retreaded edge tech from earlier gene therapy failures.
These platforms MIGHT NOT cause cancer 50 years down the road, or cause sterility, or cause disease in CHILDREN of recipients. But the fact is simple – WE DON’T KNOW YET.
Now – if I was 70 years old, I would probably take the very first safe and effective DNA or mRNA vaccine to come to market, not expecting to live to 120, or to have any more kids. But that’s not the case. I’d love a few more decades. If I had a choice – AND I DO HAVE ONE – I’d prefer a more time-trusted technology like protein subunits. Most of all, I would trust a vaccine that got green-lighted by Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor University, an expert on immune enhancement in coronaviruses.
Adenovirus vectors? They already have “issues” of several kinds, including recipients either having or developing immunity to the platform itself. Perhaps not insurmountable, but there are other problems. For instance, we know that viruses have LIFELONG SIDE-EFFECTS. We’ve had decades to discover most of the important natural ones. AND – very disturbingly – we have a government health bureaucracy prominently led for years by a guy (Fauci) who not only forgot about HCQ and chloroquine – very economically conveniently for his vaccine and new therapeutic interests – he figured that the best way to deal with the inconvenient class of “slow, obscure, cancer-causing viruses” was to KICK THE PRIMARY RESEARCHER OF THEM OUT OF NIH.
Sorry – I would like to try these fascinating but risky modern vaccine platforms AFTER they have been checked and re-checked by a POST-FAUCI NIH/CDC/ETC.
And that doesn’t even begin to address this very important question. WHO IS MONITORING VACCINES to make sure that nobody is sneaking in sterility vaccine components? Components that were likely ALREADY TESTED IN AFRICA?
Is the Catholic Church even AWARE of the danger? WHERE is Pope Epstein-Guevara on this one? WITH the depopulationists? Happy to see humanity sterilized by the United Nations, as long as the “grave danger” of climate change is badly addressed?
Sorry. I’m not ready for any “mandatory” vaccine. Just on principle.
SO – you have a lot of choices in future COVID-19 vaccines, ranging from “none” to “any”.
I’m not going to tell you what to think or do.
But I hope that by addressing this issue for myself, I’ve given you some things to think about – so that your chosen position on vaccines will not merely be INFORMED, but FILLED WITH UNDERSTANDING.
And with that, I bid you GOOD HEALTH!
W
Remember when we could trust vaccines? We’re ONE election from heading back there.
This QTH of JULY FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
Note which video from last week is NOW GONE.
https://youtu.be/kFD5sQjIyGg
If you recall, this was Dr. Kelly Victory’s video about COVID-19. More on the story below.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
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SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
YouTube will protect you from coronavirus misinformation, as determined by WHO [CHINA].
Medical Socialism Means Censorship
Medical socialism MUST censor what it does not want you to hear.
Remember Dr. Kelly Victory’s YouTube video from just last Friday? Here it is now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFD5sQjIyGg
And here it is, re-posted by somebody, and removed AGAIN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0iGbD23sZo
Well, somebody named “Sam Q Public” did the public service of re-posting it ONE MOAR TIME, and here it is (for now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YEZlZZyJY
Susan Wocommie, familial Menshevik, is relentless, but WE ARE MOAR RELENTLESS.
And if you want to find Dr. Kelly on YouTube, well, here she is.
That one is from HER ACCOUNT, which you are free to FOLLOW.
So where is MEDICAL SOCIALISM taking us? GLAD YOU ASKED.
Euthanasia to Eugenics to Eugenocide
Where does Stalinist medical socialism lead? Where does it WANT to go?
It is my contention that medical socialism leads to CONTROL OF HUMANITY at a biological level. It will control who lives and who dies, and who (that lives) gets which organs of who (that dies).
Now, I’m not the biggest watcher of eugenics around, but certain things TRIGGER me into action, and Melinda Gates going “blacks first” on coronavirus vaccines was one of those things. To me, it was a SLIP – a careless “tell” that gave up the game.
Bill is much slicker. He is NEVER not in 100% cover-up mode. Melinda – well, shes’s simply not as good of a LIAR. So – as you can tell – I do NOT trust her motivation here.
So let’s talk about “emergency” coronavirus vaccines, but not too loudly, lest people in the media engage in their role of suppressing some thoughts, instilling others, and basically controlling what we think.
I was BORN just a FEW YEARS – a child’s lifetime – a few gray hairs – after somebody tried to *LITERALLY* wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. AND MORE. Black people were way up there on Hitler’s list. Trust me – if Hitler would have won, sterilization vaccines – NOW WORKING – is how he would have gotten rid of Africans, and made Africa a “white utopia”.
Do you believe me? That Hitler would have used modern science for genocide? Of course he would have.
And it’s not a one-time deal. GENOCIDE dressed up as EUGENICS dressed up as PUBLIC HEALTH is bound to happen again. It’s TOO EASY. People are TOO TRUSTING.
My mother, who SAW IT, told me all about it. And my father filled in the technical details.
Hitler’s eugenics movement had ONE GROUP of higher priority for “improving humanity” than Jews and communists, and almost NOBODY stood up for them – the disabled, the retarded, the infirm, and the bedridden. Yeah, I said “RETARD” – so you would REMEMBER. They change the LANGUAGE so you will FORGET HISTORY.
The “medical socialism” of Nazi Germany – their “death panels” – encountered little opposition to the elimination of those deemed “medically unfit”, so that is where it started.
Hitler and his bunch of psychopathic “national” socialists WARMED UP German society to genocide with the easy pickin’s.
That’s not much different from nursing homes, is it? First they keep you out – THEN they kill them.
MANY people get this – the anti-abortion people – the anti-euthanasia people – and many black people who are labeled “conspiracy theorists” – even the execrable Farrakhan. Not enough Jews get this nowadays, but they used to. When ELIMINATION OF JEWS was a recent historical FACT, Jews actually believed that re-creating the conditions needed to pull it off again might be a bad thing.
I am going to be very blunt, because I understand the science, but most people do not.
I am less disturbed by Iranian nukes, which CANNOT KILL ALL JEWS, than I am by American socialists, and beyond them the global socialists, who seem absolutely determined to GIVE the power to accomplish genocide “medically” to the STATE.
And HERE’S THE RUB.
99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY – just like it was in Hitler’s Germany.
I repeat, for the benefit of EVERYBODY on our side.
99% of the POWER of genocide is SECRECY.
Well, what SECRET do we have HERE?
Is ANY GROUP understanding the danger here? A lot of blacks do. Thank GOD for that. Even the HORRIBLE FARRAKHAN has his saving grace, of realizing that “eugenocide” of blacks is something a LOT of people would NOT risk their LIVES to fight.
I’ll just say it right here. If you’re not watching out for the genocide of OTHERS, you’re not going to be there for genocide against YOU.
The Nazis used a SLICK combination of two things:
(1) OPENLY making the public moderately comfortable with genocide, by selling EUGENOCIDE – the allegedly morally, ethically, and socially acceptable elimination of some group – such as those who exist only by the charity of others, and who are often in some discomfort or pain, and who have a “low quality of life” by the standards of others.
(2) SECRETLY enacting REAL genocide, using bureaucracy as both a COVER and an enabler.
Once every individual is “speech-separated” from every other individual in a socialist society, people are AFRAID TO DISCUSS delicate topics, like “what is Hitler really doing with the Jews?“
Under those circumstances, everybody is IN FEAR OF THE STATE. People do NOT talk about what might get THEMSELVES – as an individual – in trouble.
So TROUBLE befalls EVERYBODY.
We cannot allow this SILENCING to happen in America. If we do, then GENOCIDE – starting off with EUGENOCIDE – is not far behind.
Eugenocide will not look like this:
Nor will it look like this (from Cloud Atlas):
It will look like this:
Now this picture is actually very innocent. There is a FAKE NEWS item that says this is Obama, Fauci, and Melinda Gates in the Wuhan lab.
NO.
It is at NIH, during the Ebola crisis. AND there are very similar pictures of TRUMP and Fauci at NIH, during the COVID-19 epidemic.
Both are innocent. AND THAT IS MY POINT.
What follows MAY be innocent, too. But nevertheless, based on exactly how Hitler DECEIVED Jews with a “nice story” about where they were ALL going, EUGENOCIDEwill look more like this:
I ain’t sayin’ Melinda Gates wants to kill Blacks and Injuns. But I’m saying – very clearly – that when somebody DOES try to kill Blacks and Injuns, it’s gonna look JUST LIKE THAT – if not even more charitable. It will be NICE, and it will be RACIALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, or otherwise SELECTIVE based on a potentially EUGENIC division.
I’ll explain how it would be done in another post. When you realize how easy it is – RIGHT NOW – to carry out secret genocide, and LOOK like you’re doing the opposite – it will scare the #### out of you.
Are y’all starting to see why ORIGINAL AMERICAN RACE-FREE is the BRAND YOU CAN TRUST?
Good.
Next item.
The Logical Triviality of X Matters
The evil genius of “Black Lives Matter” is that it is three things at once.
Trivially True
Incomplete
Almost Meaningless
Saying “Black Lives Matter” is like saying all of the following.
White Lives Matter
Pencils Matter
Slaves Matter
Heroes Matter
Villains Matter
Ted Bundy Matters
American Flag Matters
Trump Matters
Pedophiles Matter
Books Matter
Matter Matters
Mass Matters
Something Matters
Nothing Matters
Things Matter
X =
The temptation is to make it MORE MEANINGFUL – by saying something like – I don’t know – maybe “All Lives Matter”. That is a TRICK – to bait you into the appearance of negating or disagreeing with a trivially true statement – one which moreover has an IMPLIED GOOD MESSAGE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
Democrats are saying “X equals”. If you say in response that X equals ANYTHING, or add some condition, build some theorem, or draw some corollary, you have fallen for the trick.
Let’s be honest. Throw away all your preconceptions about the phrase BLM, and who is behind it.
Do black lives matter? Just answer THAT question, with no BUH BUH BUH about what comes next.
Of course they matter. Here is the logic:
IF {All Lives Matter} AND {Black Lives Is A Subset Of All Lives} THEN {Black Lives Matter} = TRUE
Ignore the organization. Ignore the Marxists. Ignore the riots. Ignore the violence.
The statement {Black Lives Matter} is TRIVIALLY TRUE.
The phrase “black lives matter” is actually not very comforting, but people presume that it is. Note that people who think black lives are worth only 3/5 of a white life, can AGREE with the statement “black lives matter”. People who think black lives are worth nothing more than the cost of a CREMATORY RIDE can agree with the statement. People who think black lives are a NEGATIVE, and need to be eliminated with sterility vaccine components snuck into specific lots of a coronavirus vaccine, can agree with that statement.
Yup. Here is a NAZI agreeing with “Black Lives Matter”:
“Black lives matter. We had better do something about them before they overpopulate.”
The incomplete statement “black lives matter” is actually very insidious. Sometimes I think the biggest racists in America – perhaps some secret Nazi grandchildren left over from WWII and Operation Paperclip, came up with this gimmick.
Here is what Wolf Moon says – a much more meaningful statement.
“Black lives matter as much as white lives. Will you agree, Democrats?”
This puts the Democrats back on the spot. “All Lives Matter” does not. If the Democrats try to say that black lives matter in any way not equal to white lives – either MORE or LESS – they are TOAST. But they don’t. They RACE-BAIT unassailably with the safely meaningless phrase “black lives matter”.
Democrats are doing what they have done since slavery – teaching SOME blacks, by horrible example and evil psychology born of the master-slave relationship, how to be tricky and deceitful like them.
Democrats are teaching blacks to play a MIND GAME that turns them against Trump voters, who will predictably try to “de-race-ify” “Black Lives Matter” into “All Lives Matter” – a noble gesture which plays the weakest card in the white hand, and psychologically tells black people on behalf of Democrats “these guys are not really your friends – WE ARE – because we say ‘black lives matter’ without questioning it.“
A nasty trick.
SO – don’t be afraid to admit the Truth.
Black lives matter.
Or – if you really want to get their goat – black lives matter as much as white lives.
You don’t disagree with that, Democrats – do you?
DO YOU?
Yeah. Watch the commies stutter, stumble, trip and fall.
Hi everyone here! I an going to ask for a very nice favor from everyone. Kiddo’ 7th birthday is Friday, on Q day. 7/17 how nice is that? Summer birthdays are hard with friends scattered on vacation(I know bc my birthday was today/yesterday) but this year he has had no friends to do anything with.
Would you all individually take a moment and post a message, poem, worldly 7 year old appropriate joke or gif, or good advice for his future?
This is only if Wolf or mods are ok with it.
I will print out what I can and save everything else. He knows about the site so getting told Happy Birthday by other people will make him extremely happy.